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Men Caring for Men: Holiday/Seasonal Depression
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Glick,Blaze, and Rick filled in for Connor who has been MIA and talked about seasonal and holiday depression in men and ways to deal with it in a healthy way also talked about the pressures on being a dad during the holiday season
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Show Update and Network News
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Am I told this is my fate?
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What's going on everybody? Happy Schmonday. Welcome to Men Care for Men. Long time no see. It's been a hot minute since I've been in this seat on this show. Of course, it's also been a hot minute since the show has been live. It's been a couple of weeks. It's been a couple of weeks. Yeah. Sucks as a host. I won't mention any of these.
00:05:07
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Your music. His life, his schedule has changed. Things have come new to his life and he's you know fulfilling more priority roles. Can't blame him too hard about it. It's because Connor sucks. Connor sucks.
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I'll say no shame. yeah Welcome to make care for men here on the Nonsense School Network. If you're not already good, check us out. We are everywhere. You can check out all the other shows. We got something going on here Monday through Sunday with the exception to be in the
Holiday Guest Booking Challenges
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holidays. We're up in the air this week. Only thing I know for sure is definitely no show tomorrow night. Obviously being Christmas Eve, kind of hard to book guests. I'm not doing anything. That's because the host sucks.
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Yeah, that's a how it sucks too. We're also am not a musician. Neither one of you are a musician. So they've got to defeat the purpose of Glick's House of Music having you guys out. I don't play any instruments. I can hairdrome like a fucking champ, though. I hear from some people you play a green skin flute. I knew somebody was going to go there. No, not somebody. I was, but I was going to aim it at it, Jeff, because he's not here yet. There you go. It was a softball that was thrown up. It had to be hit. It wasn't the greatest, but it had to be done.
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You know a whole lot about softball, so. Yeah, you know. Softball. Not all heroes were capes, buddy. But some of them never mind. i was gonna make it which you guys Check us out and give us a follow everywhere shows alive.
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But, uh, you can also listen anytime, any place, go over to our bio link, bio dot.link slash nonsensical network. You're gonna find all those links. And if you've been there before and you check it out again, you might notice a brand new link up there. There's a brand new link to beauty and the beard creative corner, which is Nikki shop. Uh, some of you guys seen my hoodie Saturday night and, uh, some of you guys may have seen the shout out video I did for her. So.
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You want some hoodies, some shirts, some cups made. Just tell her what you want and she'll get it to you. Your ego is so big you couldn't even let her own clothing shop. I'm not the one who named it, she did. It's her shop. You got to be included in everything, don't you? I didn't. I had nothing to do with the naming of her shop. Kept in one upper over here.
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I had nothing to do with her shop at all. Oh, well, let me rephrase that. The only thing I had to the only thing I did for her shop was buy everything she needed to get started. Yeah. Oh, there's there's the big part. I bought everything. she i have said It wasn't for me. It's not for me. It's it' for her. I'm teasing, bro.
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I bought all the big stuff. Oh, yeah.
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which is what her mind you didn't buy that forget or whatever it's called i contributed my car what didn't i buy oh i didn't buy the printer my printer's worthless without a heat press to me you suck i have vaginas never mind either way they're trying to say that i had to be a part of the name
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Got you in trouble. and We're only five minutes into the show. like It's called Nicki's Creative Corner. Not like I have my name on it. We're sure anytime we do a show, I can manage to get clicking some shit about something.
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Nah, nice, Wally. As always, we're going to keep to the tradition here on Monday night. It is an open panel. So anybody who's listening is welcome to come up and partake in the
Interactive Panel Invitation
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show. The link is in the chat.
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No, um all all I'm doing is just trying to support her and and and help her do her thing. I told her, I said, that's your thing. Do what you got to do. However, if people would like to have shirts or whatever made with network stuff on it, why not put it away? Hell yeah. season little depression went on You talk a real big game when I got double what fours loaded.
00:09:55
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enjoy it enjoy your freedom yeah only got a couple more weeks so what happens got trumps in the office the women lose all their rights oh boy that's going to cause mass depression So what's going on? ben So any who, uh, tonight, tonight, that one of the reasons I wanted to come up here, I mean, obviously they had them in a show, um, uh, in three weeks. Um, and I wanted to make sure something was going on here. And I know while he's been busy as well, <unk> blah, blah, blah. You right upside your head.
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and I know Wally's been doing stuff. So he's been a little sidetracked. He hasn't been able to do his show. I will not do his show because I don't know anything. I mean, I know and a little bit about reptiles. I don't know anything about motor sports other than you got a car or a motorcycle that goes meow, meow, meow, meow. I'm really... Those are always going circles. See, you already don't know shit. They don't always go in circles. So all I'm doing is a straight line because that's how that's what I see when I'm watching.
00:11:02
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Just cars going fast by me or motorcycles. Uh, but the only thing I do motor search wise is monster truck. And you know, all he knows is they got motors. All I know is they're big, they're loud and they're fun as hell to watch. And it's an excellent event to get drunk at. Excellent event to get drunk at. A little monster jam, a little drinky drink. Jamie, Jamie, Jamie.
00:11:32
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Plus, for the cost, I think i think Monster Jam is still one of the most fan-interactive, and you're not going to have to take out a second mortgage mortgage on your house to be able to get down into the pit and meet the drivers. Unless you go to the one in Atlanta, and then you're going to take out a second mortgage to spill in a park. Well, yeah, if you go to like Atlanta or Vegas or something like that, one of their big shows. but You got to take out a mortgage. It's just a park. yeah Sounds like you're in New York.
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It cost me $45 to park the last time I took the kids to Martin Monster Jam. Jesus. They were four and five and I wanted to park close enough so they weren't walking four fucking miles to get there. It cost me $45 to park across the street. Yeah. There's nothing wrong with motor sports. Oh, I enjoy, you know, I'll go watch drag racing. I'll go watch road across. I'll go watch, you know, I haven't been to a NASCAR event in probably 20 years. Um,
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I just don't know all the inner workings and all that stuff about it. I'm not as passionate about it as I am with like football. But um nonetheless, i wanted to the guy said that they'd be willing to come up here a minute. And I want to talk, you know since it is the holiday season, and it is getting cold. And two things that really affect people this time of year, it's kind of a double whammy.
Understanding Seasonal Affective Disorder
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You get the holiday depression and the seasonal depression.
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ah make sure wiener small see and tiny pecker syndrome too this is true too ah some of us sit's an everyday thing so you don't know any different this is also a fact as well got a little humor in it Yeah, um seasonal depressions better known as like how does it seasonal? Seasonal affective disorder or something like that Uh, what's that?
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seasonal affective disorder sad.
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Oh, okay. I have heard it is a real diagnosis. So it's not like some like tiktok made up thing. I didn't know that until a few years back. there a lot of things I was not in therapy. I have a friend who's a therapist that we were talking that we were just chit-chatting and uh,
00:13:53
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she She was like, yeah, you know, that's a real thing. And I was like, is it really? Well, let me think about it it. It makes sense because the vitamin D you get from the sun creates serotonin, which is your feeling of happiness. And if there's less sun, you have less hours of sunlight, you're getting less vitamin D. So you're getting less serotonin. you So I know.
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Yeah, no, no, they're you're right. i'm I'm actually, I take a vitamin D supplement once a week for my, for my, to, to stem my depression. His name's Dave, by the way. His name is Dave.
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did the vitamin v pill but Yeah. Yeah. That's a vitamin D does help because during the, during the, the winters, the nights get longer and and it needs to be shorter. And I found that out when I lived in.
00:14:39
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When I lived in Alaska, my first winter there was God, I couldn't imagine you knew what they do. Well, like almost 40 days of dark technically. Yeah, it's a lot of dark. That's what I realized that not realized I that's when my my coping mechanism with alcohol really took really came to fruition. um they yeah They say they say that it's statistically seasonal depression is worse in the north than it is in the south because.
00:15:09
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Though we do lose leaves on a lot of our trees, we don't have nearly as many leafy trees down here. We have mostly pines, and they maintain color all year long. And we still have the warmer temperatures that allow us to still be able to go outside and spend more time outside in relatively decent weather. Yeah. So. Yeah, know that's yeah it's a lot to do with the shorter days, longer nights, like you guys said. Unfortunately, we lose everything up here in the wintertime.
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That's the North man. I mean, we got bunches and stuff, but yeah, I look, it's funny because there's a, I joke around. I call it, you know, ah we don't have quote unquote mountains in Ohio unless you get down to Southern Ohio down along the Appalachian or Appalachian, whatever you want to say, whatever your preferences, I don't care. I'm not going to argue with you about it, but.
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There's a big, big, big hill over here that when I'm sitting on the porch, I can see. And in the summertime and springtime is beautiful because it's all filled in and it's all, but then in the wintertime, when you look over there, it's just looks like something out of a movie. Yeah. Yep. That's, it's just barren and that barren Brown. I mean, when you think block colors, you think of Browns and grays and shit like that. So.
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So the weather automatically, know you know, we've established the weather plays a huge factor in this seasonal depression.
00:16:41
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I think another thing that plays a factor and and I don't think, and it's something that i i I didn't know for the longest time. And I mean, I think we know it, but we don't think about it during the holiday seasons. A lot of our drinking increases and alcohol is a depressant. You compound you compound that with the season, you compound that with the stress of the holidays. it can Oh yeah, drinking can definitely be a huge factor. Well, it's that and you find yourself inside more often than you do in the spring and summertime. So for a lot of people being cooped up inside, I know I'm guilty of it being cooped up and falling into um grab a beer and hit the couch. Yeah. Well, not necessarily that, but you know, you fall into that routine of kind you go to work and you come home. We can't really do anything outside. So you're not getting outside much.
00:17:34
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gives you a lot of free time to get inside your own damn head and start overthinking the **** and if you're somebody prone to rumination, that can be that can be a that can be that that that can come to a crisis for some people. Yeah, and I mean it can be it and and depending on what the the deciding factors going on in your life at that moment are, you know, I got when I got divorced, I got divorced in the data you know i got divorced officially in June, but when I moved out, it was middle of January.
Coping with Isolation and Comfort Foods
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So I moved out and went from, you know I moved 900 miles to be with what's now my family, well, my ex-wife and my kids. um you know So when I moved out, I was 900 miles away from home, 900 miles away from the friends who I had literally known since I was five years old, because I come from a small town that I went to school with all these kids since I started school.
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You know, I didn't have any friends when I moved out. She was the reason I was here. So I move out and I move into a place where I've got nothing, just silence. And that's when you develop the humility to understand the term silence. is happening Oh, I'm sorry. So it's, uh, you know, is that yeah Again, the the things you're dealing with in your life at that time play a huge role in how you handle this particular time of year. And I don't even think so much it's November and December as much as it's probably January and February.
00:19:09
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um that Also keep um keep your ah keep your health up. I know we like to indulge more into some desserts and sugars, but health has a lot to do with it. I like how ah Benji had made a comment about it's cold here today, but Like here, it's cold here today, but next week we're going to be back in the sixties. That, that weather fluctuation, colds going around. So yeah, definitely keep your, uh, keep your health about you as much as possible.
00:19:38
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Oh yeah. Keep hydrated, keep hydrated. As funny as that sounds. Hydration is the key factor.
00:19:52
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I've been sucking down these fucking Pepsi zeros the last couple days. Not a good idea. Pepsi zero. But I don't want people to ignore those comfort things that bring happiness to you during the holiday seasons. do You know what I mean? Like, that's why I think like, this is when I indulge in those extra sweets and stuff. Like I'm going to make some candy bacon tonight. That's something I do all the time. You know, that just helps lift the spirit. So there's nothing wrong with that too. A little bit of indulgence isn't too bad. Well, those are things that you find, you know, like, um,
00:20:31
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comforting or, you know, like they say, you know, during, during the fall and and and winter months, people eat a lot more, quote unquote, comfort foods. Yeah. You know, like your soups and, and whatnot. Um, because it, a lot of people get enjoyment out of actually making it as well.
00:20:56
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Yes, I I'm somebody who would prefer making homemade hot chocolate than that Swiss Miss package shit. Yeah. And I'll take the time and I'll do that too. And it ah I don't know. I like doing stuff like that because it takes time and it's helps keep maintain on your patience level, I guess. I don't know. Welcome back, Rick. Sorry, my phone keeps ringing.
00:21:25
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Try to keep your, keep your, keep your mind right. You know, obviously, like you said, Blake's the kind of touch on what you said, you know, um, that'll kind of get into another topic I want to talk about tonight as well. But, you know, around the holidays, a lot of people are doing a lot more drinking, a lot more quote unquote celebrating and everything like
Holiday Alcohol and Mental Health
00:21:47
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that. And as we all know, alcohol is technically a downer. It's a depressor.
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So if you're already in kind you're already kind of feeling a lot, your head's out of sync or out of whack and you start adding all that drinking on top of it, it just sends you down into a little bit deeper hole.
00:22:13
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take into consideration, you may not realize it at the time because you may be hanging out with friends or family and having drinks with them and carrying on, you know, and not even paying any attention. But at some point that night slows down and comes to a close. And that's when you're sitting there, you know, whether it be slightly or fully intoxicated and you're sitting there left with your own thoughts in the quiet and the slowdown of the, of the end of the night. And a lot of people,
00:22:41
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They failed and realized they're like, Oh yeah. Well, you know, I'd go out drinking with my buddies and it'll be a good time and I'll be just fine. Well, drinking with your buddies and stuff ends at some point and you end up there drunk by yourself. Yeah. And that's always.
00:22:59
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a real fun time. some I'll be honest with you, and you know this from when I first met you and I hit it very, very well. When I first met you on TikTok, I was severely depressed and drinking routinely every single day. And sure, it was all fun and games when I was online. And then when the night ended and I wasn't live streaming and people had stopped chit-chatting with me for the night afterwards. I was left by myself intoxicated in an empty house.
00:23:37
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Do one of my darkest times and I it so when ah when my, when my ex wife and I split the moment we did, it was like literally right before Thanksgiving in 2018. And it was also there right before COVID started. So right after that holiday season is when there was a lot of separating. And so like through that holiday season, I didn't get to see my kids and then that shit happened. And that was a, that was a very long, long, long winter.
00:24:12
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that, that season. And, uh, my, uh, my drinking definitely, definitely increased. Like it was, it was not good. Probably, probably some of my worst drinking times, barbecue therapy. I am, I am not, I am not against barbecue therapy. So Brian. Well, and that's, you know, to go with the branches and that's something that, you know, you gotta find something.
Therapeutic Benefits of Adult Coloring
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that you enjoy doing that can occupy that dark part of your brain. and You know, I found through the years, I found a lot of there, some things last, some things don't. You know, I found one of my favorite things to do when I'm just chilling and it's just me. And I don't feel like watching mindless TV or I'll put the TV out of the background, especially this time of year when I have more time inside than I do outside. You know, during the summertime, I'll go out on the porch after work and I'll sit down and I'll drink a beer and I'll put my audio book on through my Bluetooth speaker. I like my audio books. I listen to a lot of books.
00:25:13
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Um, but this time of year, you know, I always have music on in the background. I don't know. Sometimes you guys might hear it over me or whatever, but I always, always, always have music playing in my house. Not just for me, but for the dog, because it keeps him from hearing all the noises during the day when nobody's here and driving himself banana bat shit crazy.
00:25:33
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but i like I've found that getting some of those adult coloring books, um the adult coloring books is supposed to be phenomenal for your mental mental health. you know They have some really interesting neat ones that are like tattoo books. I was about to say, what are adult coloring books? i say yeah Where are we going with that? I don't have one handy right now, but um yeah, it's like basically take a piece of flash from your tattoo shop and you get to color it the way you want to color it.
00:26:02
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Oh, okay it's more adult themed. Instead of getting like the Smurfs or some shit like that, you know, you get something a little more adult themed ah to color your way. Like I have, I have one that I colored that's like, it's got the veins and ventricles of a heart, but the actual heart itself is made of a grenade. Oh, okay. So it's kind of stuff like that or, or, um, another thing call it bead art, diamond art, gem art, whatever you want to call it. um That's another thing. It's like a paint by number, but instead of putting paint on there, you have a little like a pen. I actually have one sitting here right next to me. You have a little acrylic pen that normally has an attachment on it and you pick up little plastic beads with like wax on the tip and you set them on the individual number you want and it makes a whole picture.
00:26:52
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by the time you're done. And yet again, I don't have anything here. Oh, here's my daughter has one right here that she hasn't finished. Well, like here's all the little bead things. OK, I've seen my niece do one of those. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know when Andy is completed, but I got a buddy of mine that does that like religiously now. That's been part of his therapy.
00:27:20
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Yeah. Finding, uh, finding hoppy, hoppies,
00:27:26
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funny, funny, hoppy beers is amazing. No, finding, finding hobbies that keep you occupied and interested in and stuff is a good way to, uh, fill those gaps where we're inside more. Absolutely. Video game that was a big one. but I hate the fact that people discredit video games. I'm not a big video game person, especially when it comes in like online multiplayer is a cottage like that.
Video Games and Social Skills Debate
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But I see the utility in them.
00:27:50
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and allowing people to come together in an otherwise situation where they couldn't because of weather and they're stuck inside. I think stuff like that is amazing as long as the internet doesn't go down, but yeah. Well, here's here's the situation that we're running into currently with that is this current generation and I can tell you because I see it with my kids and Glick probably has seen it with his, my kids will sit in the same room as their friends, feed apart and text each other instead of having a conversation verbally face to face. Yeah, well that's fine. I mean, it's different. It takes away that away takes away from their inverse and social skills.
00:28:31
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My daughters do that. i think I don't think it's taking away. i think it's I think it's interpersonal relationship or skills evolving over time because because technology technology does impact the way way the way we exist in a society over time as technology change.
00:28:50
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We change. I mean, like ah we do this and instead of meeting at the bar or talking on the phone or, you know, so, I mean, i I hate to, I don't like to sit there and wag my fingers, say they're wrong for doing it. It's just a different way of communicating. I don't think anything's wrong with it. The problem is, is it's, it's, it's taking away from, and this is my opinion. It takes away from their ability to socialize in a in-person situation.
00:29:21
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because when you're talking to somebody on a video game and we all know it because we all grew up and we've all played online games, you can say whatever the fuck you want and there's no repercussions for it.
00:29:34
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You can say whatever you want and there can be all the praise in the world. You can be, Brad basically wrote a country song about it. I'm so much cooler online. You can be anybody you want to be online. But when you have a person like when you were, okay, when you, when you, when we were all 14, think about it, 14 years old, think way back plays on a whole job, but think back to when you were 14 years old, how many weekends were you sitting at home by yourself with your parents?
00:30:03
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almost now lot you were out with your bunny or by myself doing something yeah mom can you drop me off at billy's house mom can you drop me off with the we still had skating rinks up north i don't know if you guys that you know my kids my son at for at thirteen years old his had one sleepover in his life. My daughter has had two sleepovers with her girlfriends at 14 years old. They don't even ever want to go and hang out with their friends. They would rather get on Fortnite or Cod or Minecraft from their own respectable houses and talk to each other. yeah And I just think that that's ah that's a huge
00:30:49
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burden on the social skills of society. Because how are you going to meet a woman? How are you going to procreate? How are you going to make friends in the real world if you don't have the ability to talk to people face to face? I'm sure I figured it out before long. That's why I don't have to. You're probably not wrong. You're probably not wrong. I don't know. I think technology just just lends another avenue of of communication.
00:31:19
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but in that same breath and then not necessarily me or you guys, but I think a lot of parents have let their kids take it a little too far where it's what they've become reliant on.
00:31:33
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Reliant in how we were reliant on like the telephone when we were teenagers talking to our friends. yeah i and and I could do that.
00:31:44
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I didn't have, family but all but I lived in a small town. So all my buddies and I, we could all, we were all a six minute walk from each other. We, so I was, I grew up, I grew up on, I grew up as a military brat. So I went to school a lot on, on army posts. Okay. And like the friends I would hang out with us at school might live a couple like housing areas over. Yeah. so You know, it was like, Hey, calm, calm. It's called Billy up. Hey, Billy.
00:32:11
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Uh, what are you up to? You got free time? Oh no, man. It's, it's almost dinner time. It's like, all right, now I'll catch you later or whatnot. I mean, we had our curfews, but you would still walk over and knock on a door if you were close enough, right? Oh yeah, absolutely. My kids won't, my kids don't have the balls to walk up and knock on a door on the Halloween.
00:32:30
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You know, sometimes I don't think that's our kids fault. I think that was some of our generation's reaction to scary news stories that put it, put the kibosh on trick or treating in a lot of places. I think it got put in your face because of modern day technology and social media. you Well, no, like, uh, Oh, they're putting drugs in the candy. They're killing our kids. we heard about that grown up your first star birdss all and it was a lot yeah And there was a lot of, and there was a lot of, uh,
00:32:58
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I hate to say satanic panic about shit like that. And that actually put, like there was towns that actually outlawed Halloween trick-or-treating because stuff like that. And I think, you know, as we got older, we just, you know, in some places, like I took my kids trick-or-treating, but I know in some places you go, it's not really a thing. It's not practice much. I think it's all kind of where you're at. Yeah.
00:33:23
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Like where I'm at right now, like, so when I was in Oregon, uh, we take our kids trick or treating, knock on doors, bla blah, blah, blah. Here in Kentucky, it's you take your kids to trunk or tree. Yes. otherwise You go to churches and squares and yada, yada, yada. Yeah. Fire department, stuff like that. We never had that growing up. Our parents were like, don't get kidnapped. Yeah, but it it depends on the mentality of that area you're you're living in. Cause I think i agree the area I live in, like,
00:33:52
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fear is this thing that really puts the kibosh in having fun sometimes, I think. I agree. I don't know. I don't but have that problem with my kids. My son, he's always outside running around with his friends. um you know There's times if the weather's shitty, his one friend will come in and they play Xbox together, but his friend will be in.
00:34:20
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cash his room and cash will be a little in the living room. And I'm like, it's different though, because they can, they could literally get up. If you said, okay, no more Xbox go outside, they're going to go outside together and hang out. yeah Well, I've, I've made the comment before, like, doesn't, uh,
00:34:36
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I can't remember the little kid's name. I'm like, doesn't he have his own Xbox at his house? And then they would argue to me and be like, yeah, but it's not as fun because we can't actually talk to each other. Like, yeah, they make this thing called a headset, but they want to be around each other while they're playing. Like, I bet you if I had, if I was able to put a second TV in his room with the second Xbox, they would sit in there and play to together. They don't want to be at each other's house. And my oldest daughter, she's always at her friend's house, but it's her, her, her little,
00:35:06
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you know, circle of friends. They they are literally together. they She left Friday. She just came home today. Yeah. And it's like it's you know, so I've never seen that with my kids. Maybe I don't know. Maybe maybe it's just because you know, now like the night or whatever cash will be watching TikToks or YouTube. I can't say I'm a helicopter mom. So, ah my my middle daughter you know it's a little bit harder for her to Hang out with her friends. That's just because, you know, we live in one town and they go to school in another town and. You know, it's almost a half hour away, but any opportunity she gets where she can go spend the night with her friends or one of her friends can come over
Seasonal Depression and Mental Health Awareness
00:35:49
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here. Um, they're, they're doing it. Uh, yeah, man, trick or treat has never been an issue here. That's, that's one of my kids's favorite things to do. I'm like the town where my family's from, it's gotten bigger, you know, over the years, especially in the last couple of years.
00:36:04
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But it's still the same. It's got the same feel like everybody knows everybody, you know, like my kids are third generation. I think all that all that plays into the start, though, like think about it. Halloween marks basically the start of the seasonal depression season. Yeah, you know, so well, I think it's it starts right after Halloween because Halloween rocks ass and then all the holidays that come after him before suck.
00:36:32
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But at that point, they'll think about it though. At Halloween point, the days are getting shorter. The leaves are coming off the trees. You know, everything's getting more barren. The temperatures are getting colder. Yeah. You know, especially, especially up north, you know, I think in my, in my personal opinion, Halloween marks the start of the seasonal depression season and Eastern to me probably marks the end.
00:36:54
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that's so that's that's around that's the time during false so solstice so that's when it starts getting more or yeah the abundance of darkness is more than mine that's what a fire that's that's basically what a lot of the experts say is around the time that it and even now it's starting to become hit or miss so you can't even really call it that because i mean hell it we were still in the 70s in october here you know our some our our quote unquote warm days are You know, it's getting longer, but, um, cause I had to break like one of my rules where, you know, cash is supposed to come in when the streetlights come on and it's still 70 degrees out in October. And the kids are all outside still playing, but it's already dark at five o'clock. And I'm like, you know what? As long as you guys are right here.
00:37:43
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I'm at it. Yeah. Yeah. Like when I, when I lived in the last house I was in, ah you had they had street light. The street light was my rule in the dark. you As long as you didn't go past either street light, which was like three driveways worth of space on a road that didn't see a lot of traffic, you know, my kids, they were forever down. They would have six, eight kids at a time hanging out in the fucking street in front of the house, just chilling.
00:38:08
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you invite andnna That's what the you know quote unquote experts say. you know And ah basically what it is, I mean, to really kind of dumb it down if you want to, when things start to die off outside, basically the leaves are falling, this, that, and the other thing ah you know is when is the beginning of it. And then once everything starts to come back to life and you start to see the blooms and you know and everything like that, um you start to you start to feel a little bit better. But I mean, there's a lot of options out there.
00:38:41
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you know, that you can do when you start feeling that the cold, the cold weather blues, man. Blaze has got one going on right now. Yeah. His doggo. You know, my doggo. My doggo is my, he's my best pal. You know, he's my rider guy. I would say my doggo, but that picture was back here a few minutes ago. She was biting my knees and my elbow for no reason. Mine's over here. I got two of them. I got two of them falling around.
00:39:10
Speaker
You deserve it. Mine's over your pants out on the **** couch. Like a bomb. I wish mine I wish mine would go lay down and pass the **** out. Yeah, I would like to throw out of the streets so I can start the rise of my honor army. Sometimes my my arm just sits here and she comes up and she'll like take her hand and she knows a little bit of your arm. Yeah. Or they lick you. They lick your elbow or your forearm. Yeah, Molly will I have a A bed sets down low, have a low bed frame. And like her feeding time, she used to eat at 8.30 in the morning and by 3.30 in the afternoon at 8.30. If I'm asleep, she'll come over and she'll like nuzzle my shoulder. Like wake up, feed me asshole. Yeah, yeah. No, I don't tell you what's going outside. Hey, wake up. I need to go pee and I can't go pee unless you get up and let me go pee. So, but they could.
00:40:07
Speaker
And I think a lot of this to go back to the, the antisocial skills that these kids are developing. I think a lot of it's creating depression in younger kids too. I shouldn't say antisocial. Let me read. Yeah. I was like, cause I mean, there's still socializing socializing. Lack of social skills and the ability to pick up on social cues is creating a different, my,
00:40:35
Speaker
14 year old daughter cries and says she has anxiety attacks and 14 I didn't know what the fucking anxiety attack was she might She might she might be though. I mean it's it's it's it's plausible But again and when we were that age that wasn't a thing and I had this discussion. with I know that's not true I I got, I got mental health issues from when I was in in my, i just don't think we know I was, I was having anxiety and taxes stuff when I was an adolescent. So I mean, I think just to, uh, just to like cast them off because somebody's young, I think that doesn't do them any justice. But like, I hear these and she talks about it all the time. You know, she's got friends that at 12, 13, 14 years old that are claiming that they're suicidal. And it's like,
00:41:28
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Life hasn't even punched you in the mouth yet. Like, your parents are happily married. You come from a good home, and I know these kids and I know their parents, you come from a good home. You have a a pretty good life. You have friends at school. You have friends I've seen you hang out with outside of school. You have relatively what you would call your typical American life.
00:41:53
Speaker
I don't know what, a what, what is causing that mental disconnect that is causing a 13 year old kid to say, I just want to eat a bullet. Well, I've said this before, and I'm not saying this is the the whole situation, you know, the, the upside of mental health and especially men's mental health, as that's what this shows about, but and the upside about mental health and whatnot is that it is becoming more talked about. It is becoming more of a, you know, upfront. People know more about it. Whereas when we were kids, even the doctors didn't know a whole lot about it. So the, you see a kid that's acting out, you know, you're not going to go, Oh, well clearly they're depressed or they have anxiety or, you know, you're just going to, and and a again, talking to some friends and stuff like that, that are way smarter than I am.
00:42:49
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And more, you know, they're closer to the field and and and work in the field and whatnot. But the downside with it becoming more relevant and more people knowing about it. Unfortunately, there's a lot of people and these is what these kids are seeing on social media that use mental health issues as a way to get clicks and likes and views.
00:43:13
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and then i they glorify it yeah There's definitely some I agree, there's probably some um fake There's probably people using it for for clout. I don't disagree. I just don't think we should just, you know, you know, a kid in your life that's, you know, has, has you know, suicidal ideology i idealization. I don't think we should just dismiss it because they're young.
00:43:42
Speaker
why or you not saying that and that's what I'm saying. Like, you know, that's the good thing is that that's that's why I said it's uh it's kind of like a double edged sword because we do know more about it these days. So, people are able to recognize signs a lot, you know, because yeah, at twelve years old, you could, you know, looking back on it now, I've been dealing with anxiety and depression, a good chunk of my life, you know, and and a few times I've been in therapy. Uh just therapy's not for me. It's not for everybody. Plus, um I'm not Big on the drugs to fix my mood like yeah, i'll give give me another way to do it. I don't want to That's just that's so that's a me thing to to each and everybody's different you But um, but yeah, I mean that's That's the good thing. That's the positive thing the the negative thing is that unfortunately there are
00:44:34
Speaker
YouTubers and tiktokers that that use it or cloud and our kids see it and there might not be anything wrong with the kids But they see these people getting Attention from it. So then they want to go. Well, I have anxiety I have depression and that's why I'm being a little shit because that's what these tiktokers and youtubers do every time they do something illegal or they get caught up in some fuckery they're like, oh it's because of my oh man, I've been dealing with depression and and thatdada And that's why I'm 35 and I'm talking to 12 year old little girls on the internet. No, it's not. You're just a fucking perv. Yeah. but yourre And now you're making people with mental health disorders look bad because now everybody's going to go, here comes the stigma again. Oh, you've got mental health the disorders. That means, you know, your kid touches this. That's it's there's the positives and the negatives. I, you know, fortunately, I think the positives definitely outweigh the negatives these days.
00:45:28
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I think back when we were growing up, I i think the biggest problem was is just people didn't really know what or how to really deal with it in kids. But alsoll agree with that also with the antisocial or the or or the personable social skills, how much of that falls back onto the parents?
Parenting, Media, and Youth Values
00:45:52
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Actually, it it falls. I think it not all of it. I think it has to do with media consumption, both um in in the in the preview of the parents' side and outside the preview of the parents' side. I think it has to do with ah social interactions at school, if they're at working age, at work. It's not just it's the parents' fault. there's I think what I do think...
00:46:18
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identity of who we become over time is is not just oh because my parents it definitely has a I think the parents slapping an electronic device in their hand as a babysitter plays a huge role into it and i agreely I will confidently say looking at other people in public with their kids seeing the posts on Facebook and stuff um it's probably, I'd say it's probably an 80 20 split of parents. 80% of parents will just as soon as slap a phone in their kids and they do it as babies, 18 months old. They put something like bluey on their phone and they just hand their phone to their kid. And you've all seen it sitting in a restaurant out at the mall, whatever, you know, instead of interacting with the child or having the child interacting children around them,
00:47:08
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You know, they'll just, oh here, here you go, here you go. You just take this and watch something, watch something. And the mindless shit that they watch on their phones, like, and I and i say this because I have a 13 year old and a 14 year old, the mindless trash, brain rot things they watch on their phones or on the TVs with YouTube. YouTube, as great as it is, as great as it was for our generation growing up,
00:47:36
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has literally, in my personal opinion, destroyed the brains of almost everybody under the age of 19 years old. I don't know. I think there's a lot of good things on YouTube, too. I think it's I think they don't look it up.
00:47:53
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um Maybe it's because they don't know how to look it up. I mean, we're only as good as how much information we have. access If they can find something now, we know how to find toilet.
00:48:06
Speaker
I think they can find how to change the tire on my pickup truck. Well, also that's not trendy. Nobody wants to. I think somebody can do both. that's that's I just had this trendy trending conversation, trendy conversation with my son tonight, who's mad because he has an Xbox One. And when he's here, he plays on my PlayStation 4 more than he plays on my PlayStation 5. And his constant gripe is,
00:48:35
Speaker
My stuff's outdated, it's laggy, I can't keep up with my friends, I can't keep up with the streamers that I watch online. Bro, well that's it's your light if your whole life is going to be about keeping up with the Joneses, you're in for a very, very big disappointment. about this is Now this this comments a little bit adjacent to that, not exactly reflexive of it, but um
00:49:06
Speaker
How much as parents do we, how much when we're raising our children, are we raising them to be an independent person of their own ah making or thoughts or stuff? or Or how much are we projecting how we want our kids to be? ah think I think some parents try to project their values on their children. It's like, oh, they're my children. This is the way they have to live their life. And if they do anything outside of that, it's like, er. Like, I think i think there's some of that too on the parent side.
00:49:36
Speaker
Um, I, so I can agree with that to an extent, like my push on my kids is not because I want them to be a certain way, but I want is them to not turn out like me, but be better than me. Um, many and and now, now do you think that is, but right.
00:50:03
Speaker
you want them to be better than you. See, i and i and I understand that as a parent, I want my kids to to be better than me, but on but at the end of the day, that is my sub subject subjective opinion on what that better is. if If my kid feels that the way they live their life is just better for them, period, I think that to me, I think is more important than in this this subjective opinion that You know, what's better is not how what I see is better may not be better for them. Exactly. Yeah. Yes. Exactly. and And that's, and that's what I mean by, are we projecting what we think is better?
00:50:45
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And they're not living by that, but what they're living by is better for them. And are we, can are we conflating those ideas? I think that goes to an extent you're right there, but I think like in my case, and I, and I like to believe this as I try my best to do it, the things that I push them to be better at than I was are things that I know have haunted me from doing poorly as I was their age.
00:51:12
Speaker
Now, like that grades, for example, I graduated high school by the skin of my teeth. Yeah. It's taken me till I'm 38 years old to make the kind of money that I make now. And I've been in an industry, the same industry since 2008. I want better for them, which ultimately at the end of the day means they need to do better in school than I did because as I've gotten older, what I've learned.
00:51:41
Speaker
Generally speaking, except in rare cases, the better you come out of school, the more opportunities are open to you upon exit. Yeah. Yeah. There's some truth to that. Yeah. Like, so I push on my daughter, especially because she's the worst. My son has great grades. My daughter does not. and And this is what blows my mind. And, and,
00:52:07
Speaker
And I don't know where the mental disconnect is with them. I understand this generation is lazy. Ideally they're, they're a lazy generation. Each, actually to be fair, each generation has, has gotten, and well, depending on what modern country you live in has gotten more and more lazy over time. Again, because of technology, like our generation, like I'm 47, our generation, if you're in my generation, we were lazier than our parents.
00:52:34
Speaker
and the more parents generation, they were lazier than there. oh So this idea of saying, oh, our kids are lazier than us. Well, that's just a product of society itself. right So to blame them, like wag their, our finger at them because they're lazier than us, even though they're, they have more access to technologies in different ways we than we do. I don't think there's a reflection on them in a negative. way i think The level of lazy is a different is is different in the aspect of, and my daughter did it, and my friend, Len, and his daughter did it too. My daughter had 11 missing homework assignments. She did them all. Two weeks later, those homework assignments were still missing. And I said, Peyton, why did you not, why is your, why do these still show as missing assignments? You literally did them with me.
00:53:24
Speaker
you Well, I carried him around in my backpack. You didn't turn him in? No. and i didn' like Why turn in the work? You put the time and effort into doing. Yeah, so thats i yeah that's not laziness. That's not laziness. That's not lazy because she did the work. That's that's that's time that's time management and a priority goal setting.
00:53:46
Speaker
that's not so much because I mean I've seen because I think laziness we I think a lot of times when we talk about laziness we talk lazy laziness in the the production of work or producing something I think in a lot of ways um and this goes for my generation older generations In some ways, I think there's a laziness aspect when it comes to cognitive thought and critical thinking and and and understanding ideas. so And all of this stems to it's creating, you know, but but it's it's it's it's in encouraged by the school. These kids don't get, they don't get marked off points when they're laid down assignments now.
00:54:28
Speaker
as long as it's in by the end of the marking period, it still can count for a normal grade. um Mine got marked off every day it was late until it reached the point of failing and then they wouldn't accept it anymore. So basically we're telling these kids that it's okay to be lazy and not do that work as long as you get it to me at some point, we'll still accept it and it'll be normal normal deal.
00:54:50
Speaker
And so creating that that lack of urgency in them doing things creates a complacent mentality in my mind, which is and'll it'll just it'll all just ah it's a lot of it'll work out. It'll work out. It'll it'll work out. It'll be that that way.
00:55:12
Speaker
And that's, that's going to lead to further problems later on. I, I do what you just said right there, that idea, Oh, it'll just work out. I, I agree with that. I do see that in society. And I do see that in some of how that can be, uh, uh, learned in, in our public schools and actually in a lot of form of even, even private schools, there's this idea of conformity. And I think in some ways that plays into it. Like we're.
00:55:42
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Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. Before we make that thought. I think that I think that and it in my mind it starts at the school level. The schools are creating a lack of urgency.
00:55:55
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which in turn is creating a newer, different level of laziness per se. A lack of urgency and what? Just getting work done? if yeah well okay so so by Yeah, and getting work done. If they're not getting marked off points and they have until the end of the marketing period, say from the second day, that's two months.
00:56:14
Speaker
to get this thing done and get the same grade you would have got had you turn it in the same day. So where's your urgency to get this done? If you're not going to be punished for it, you know, like it worked. If I didn't get my round out every day, I'm not going to have a job. So there is a constant sense of urgency among my day to get my stuff done, which I think having that that sense of urgency also creates a feeling of not have to not have to formulate this one right.
00:56:42
Speaker
Yeah, you're good. You're good. It's like a feeling of having discussions off the cuff that will happen. Yeah. It's almost like a sense of worth, a feeling of value, because you're expected to get this done by a certain point in time. And if you don't, then your value drops. And when your value in the working real world reaches a certain low point, you don't have a value, and they let you go, and you don't have a job.
00:57:11
Speaker
You know what I'm saying? So getting it done with that sense of urgency elevates your sense of your level of value and feeling inside that you hold a value. Well, at the end of the day, you know, helps to create that positive, that positive mental frame of mind.
Work, Worth, and Generational Views
00:57:31
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Okay. So like I put in a, I put in years and years and years in the line of work that I'm in. And I finally just took a promotion that starts January one, where I'm looking at upwards of a $15,000 a year pay increase. You know know, it's a significant increase, but it allowed me to feel like I'm valued at my company now. I think Glick's having some audio problems. Um, Oh, you're good. Okay. Um, so you You had touched on ah the idea of value, a person's value. I think, and this is just from talking to the younger generation, I think a lot of them have this feeling that ah they they're being told by society that their only worth and value in life is if they work. Like that is their value in life. Is there a level of production?
00:58:23
Speaker
And I think, I think that's, and I understand how if you sit there and think about that, how that can be, that that in itself can destroy a person's um um psyche because you're like, I'm born in this world. um yeah I go through, I get an education, I become an ah an adult. And then everybody tells me, well, your worth is is only value to how much you produce and get paid.
00:58:49
Speaker
And I think I'm not saying, I'm not saying work isn't something that should be done. I just think there is, I think she is, I think the younger generations don't look at work as a virtue as like older generations do. They look at it more as something that should be done when it's, when it's ne necessary, but it's not something I should live my life to do. They don't, they don't feel like they should.
00:59:17
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live to work to be able t So and I think a lot of t
00:59:25
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goes back to our grandfathers you busted their asses and created that that mantra. And this is we're finally starting to get away from the get your ass back in the kitchen and make me a sandwich because that's where you belong mentality from the you know early 1900s through probably I'd say about the 1950s of that Susie homemaker, but the man's out there bringing home the bread. We're getting away from that.
00:59:54
Speaker
However, I think that our grandfathers set such a high bar of what's expected in the production aspect, that it hasn't dropped to match where it actually needs to be based on a two bread winner household. Does that make sense? Yeah. Yeah. Um, yeah, I, um, I think, I think that idea of us quite Man, I'm so glad you brought this up. Man, this has nothing to do with frequencies, old depression, but this is such a great topic. I know, but it it all stems down to what causes that could lead into depression. Oh, yeah absolutely. That creates a mental strain.
01:00:36
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Yeah. So, and you, okay. i'm sorry like No, and that's, and that's actually a good, for your good when this bring this back to seasonal depression. I think because we're expected to, uh, uh, uh, person in Christmas, the way it is today causes extra stress, especially when you have an economy, the way.
01:01:00
Speaker
the way we have for decades, the way you're judged on the amount of president, yeah the no president or or ah or i'm getting to the Black Friday, am I getting that sell? It's like the holiday seasons hit and a lot of us like ramp up the hamster wheel and it's I think and when we don't and when we don't feel those expectations, I think we we uh get hard on ourselves and I and I think it's I think it's like the self-made guilt almost from like this manufactured consent and this might be a little off kilter and and I believe you said your're your your divorce place and g click your split from your kid's mother. Yeah. Yeah. How many
01:01:51
Speaker
And you may not have ever done this, but how many Christmases did you worry? Am I doing enough for them to look at me still like I'm as good as the other parent who may be doing more? Olds, my oldest, 19. Yeah, 19 of them. So in the back of your mind, you're always worrying, did I get enough stuff? Did I get the right stuff? Is is their mom going to outdo me without me actually knowing You know, is she going to come up with this one huge elaborate gift that I couldn't afford, but she managed to pull it out of her ass, whether it be by herself or with help or whatever like that. Am I going to be outdone? So that sits in the back of my psyche all day long, every day. And that's why like this time of year is tough because for me, my hours tend to drop off this time of year because construction slows.
01:02:46
Speaker
But I still need to try to make that money to provide that good Christmas, what I consider. And I know it's not the number of gifts under the tree or the dollar amounts and stuff like that. And as the kids get older, you know, Glick's got a 19 year old, minor, 13 and 14. And they've made it they've made it clear, you know, dad, it doesn't matter what you get us, anything you get us is going to be good.
01:03:10
Speaker
you know, they've reached that age, but when they were younger and their brains were new shiny toys, new shiny toys, new shiny toys, you, you didn't almost as, as a, as a, as a split household, you didn't want to be outdone by the other parents. So you put more stress on yourself than you already needed. Does that make sense? No, I, I, I understand exactly what you mean. I, uh, um,
01:03:40
Speaker
And I think I know I've said this before on this show. I'm actually a student for my children, so I don't really have a good relationship with them or really kind of a non-existent one, unfortunately. um But my ex-family, ex-in-laws, I guess you could say, they they definitely use Christmas as a time of competition.
01:04:04
Speaker
my my ex-in-laws because they were significantly more well off than my parents were. Yeah, it was used the holiday was used as like a manipulation cut type thing because I in and just like just like real real quick
Celebrating Holidays Alone and Coping
01:04:20
Speaker
quick little tidbit of his his history on me like I'm not a traditionalist and I know I haven't been in as fucking likes I don't know I'll start being a traditionalist I think when I moved out of my house when I joined the Air Force, besides like traditions, I was contractually obligated to, of course, like being there. But when it come to like personal, like in my personal life traditions, I wasn't a traditionalist, never really been a Christmas person. But when I got married, it Christmas was important to my to my then wife. But she understood, well, I thought she understood, but she knew I was, ah what I told her, i I wasn't a traditionalist, but I was okay.
01:04:59
Speaker
set, not, you know, discovering traditions with our, within our own dynamic, making new traditions, you know, my, my ex-wife, her big Christmas thing is Christmas Eve, not Christmas day. yeah So, and that was fine at the beginning, but when we ended up moving to Oregon, it was, my wife was also, so our ex-wife was also a people pleaser, especially oh got to look good to everybody around. Yeah. And, you know, um, there was a lot of, uh, demanding from that woman toward me it goes back to that keep it up with the joneses mentality right there so i um it it was it was very it was a conflicting time in my life and and it's In the last couple of years, not included, not this year, this year's, I'm actually really good with the last couple of years, the holiday seasons, like starting in August, cause that's when like two of my kids' birthdays are, yeah like no one in this one in November, one in May, but like like during this holiday from like the fall into like almost spring is like the shittiest fucking time.
01:06:07
Speaker
I hate it the world at that I'm I'm I'm better adjusted now. but Yeah, but it's been years. It's been years of dealing with that, that mentality and that mindset for those months and months and months. And I'll tell you right now, my first four Christmases post divorce, my first Christmas post divorce was a 12 pack of Bud Light and Chinese food by myself for Christmas dinner.
01:06:32
Speaker
That was it. I had nobody. My kids weren't there. I had a tree that my kids had decorated, but I had maybe six presents under it. I had and I went this is going from a living room full of stuff when I was married because my in-laws always made sure my kids never went without to sitting at a table by myself in a place that I had just moved into.
01:07:00
Speaker
in a dead silence with a 12 pack in Chinese food. yeah You know, I find it good. It was tough. It was, it was, that was almost, that was probably one of my lowest points where I actually almost considered that it wasn't worth it anymore. Yeah. No, I've, I've been in that room. That's one of the reasons why I, uh, I used to be a gun owner and I don't have anywhere anymore. Cause I was in a very, very, very bad spot. Yeah.
01:07:26
Speaker
butling you know butlis but but But on the flip side, now that I'm better, when I do start eight this van life here here later down the road, I do plan on getting getting a rifle for hunting. I would hope so. I would hope you have a rifle and a pistol for self-protection if you're going to be in van life. Well, the roads are a mean and nasty place. I'm driven. I'm locked up.
01:07:49
Speaker
I've been around. to like say Not uncommon for people to just be shot at driving down the road. Oh, I've gotten threatened to get shot just walking through the fucking Dairy Queen parking lot here where I live. And this is a rural fucking parking lot. And they shoot at you while you're driving right next to them. They're like, oh, fuck you, pop, pop, pop. You know, you get road rage incidents and turn on gunshots here at least every couple of months. But like... and laying up for us Yeah. I mean, you get into this time of year and there, there really is. There's, there's so much stress. And honestly, I think a lot of it is self-inflicted. We put it on ourselves by trying to hold a standard that, that oftentimes is fictitious at the end of the day. I know who cares at the end of the day, who gives a shit what, what you did.
01:08:45
Speaker
You know, they're the people that care. And my dad said this to me when I was very young and it's always stuck strong in my head. Those that mind don't matter and those that don't mind matter most. Because the ones that judge you for what you do and don't do are not the ones that you want to surround yourself with. You want to surround yourself with the people who support you no matter what happened.
01:09:11
Speaker
and I'll look you in the eyes and tell you, hey, that was fucking stupid. Yeah. Okay. I was going to say, I was going to push back a little bit. He over drinks and I'm like, bro, Sunday, when he's home over his fuck on Sunday, I'll look at him on a Sunday and go, boy, you fucking were dumb ass last night. Weren't you? and Oh yeah. My head. Yeah. That was your own dumb ass fault, but I was right there to support you through the show. Encourage you to get chug that next one.
01:09:37
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Act like I was alone and there was bad decision. The only thing that messed me up that from Saturday night drinking was the amount the eggnog itself on my stomach. ah and name enjoy You that Saturday night, you drank that quick. I did and because i the nights i when I do drink, I don't take my medicine and because of the alcohol, it keeps me up. So I was up to like five o'clock that morning and then I'll have to like finally get some sleep. and I only get a couple hours um of all day. And then you're going to cycle yourself back into your medicine and your routine and everything. And they're doing so doing it like that. That creates its own whole level of mental heartation sometimes. So it does if I don't prepare myself. In other words, like um if I had if if if I had something to I had to be up for on Sunday and had to take care of, I wouldn't have
01:10:34
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I would have went on about my routine. I mean, a bump in my routine every once in a while I think is good because I can't get too comfortable. Yeah, but I mean, it look at like you said, if you had something to do, you would have known to stay in it. Or if something came up on Sunday morning, you'd have been in rough shape. you know You'd have been in this situation. No, no. I would have been tired, but I wouldn't been i wasn't hungover. I wasn't like headache and all that. I mean, I wasn't like. But I'm saying your medicine wasn't in your system the way it was supposed to have been because you didn't take it. You had an alcohol. You had foreign substances flowing through your system that aren't a regular deal.
01:11:11
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I mean, doing something like that, yeah, it's as great as it is sometimes. There's some people that what and what I call the mental fuck tarnation of it, because it totally messes up your mental state when you don't have a medicine that you're reliant on, not necessarily reliant on, but a medicine that you know, makes you a better person, or more functional or something to that effect.
01:11:39
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you know, and you don't take it because you know, you're going to do something different. It's just like, it's like going to a different gas station on your way to work in the morning. You don't know where anything is in that gas station. It's a different stop than normal. It throws you out of your routine and scientifically we are creatures of habit. So when it comes, when it comes to my medicine, I actually changed my medicine. Um,
01:12:03
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the medicine I was on, it was was helping, but it was if I, if I was off of it, like more than three days, and I took a too high of a dose, like trying to get back on it. And if I got a rash, it was like life threatening. So, but and it wasn't helping my anxiety, it was helping my, my like,
01:12:23
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like depression, but not so much my anxiety. So I switched something or switched medicine. And this one, if I'm off of it for like three days or a week for some reason, like, yeah, my mood is going to be fucked, but I'm not putting myself in any risk of like long injury. So, yeah. And it's just, it's, it's amazing. But, but again, that goes to maintaining that routine is better for you at the end of the day.
01:12:51
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versus throwing that speed bump in it. Now granted, like you said, once in a while, it's okay. You know, it's it's something you, but you know, you knew how to handle, you knew you were going to drink with the boys. So you didn't take your medicine. Yeah. And that's the thing. You just, you, you got a, one of the best ways, you know, is handling depression is knowing your triggers, understanding your routine, understanding who you are, understanding, and and and this is not something like somebody can just come to overnight. This takes therapy, contemplation, ah fee medicines this necessary, it's finding the right combination, working with- Medicine and trial and error process. um Yes, so and people and I know some people don't like the medicine, I get that.
01:13:41
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Some people I don't think have taken the time to find the right, enjoy the right cocktail, I guess. um
01:13:51
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yeah i I was going somewhere else with that, whatever. Oh yeah, yeah. So like being prepared, know, like understanding, you know, that the effects of alcohol on you as a person, how much, know your limit, just stuff like that, I think goes along or helps them along.
Mental Health Medication and Economic Challenges
01:14:06
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I think i think and and to go with the depression thing, you know, people don't realize on average takes 45 days for a medication to efficiently work in your system.
01:14:17
Speaker
45 days. People want this cure all. And that's not how that's not how mental health medication works. If that was the case, they'd zap your brain and you'd be fucking normal and in ah in ah in a moment's notice. You know what I'm saying? And I use the air quotes because normal is a matter of perspective. Yeah, it's a it's a relative term.
01:14:41
Speaker
um you know But if that was the case, they would zap your brain and you'd be normal. But they can't do that. So they try these medication concoctions or cocktails as some call it. And people don't realize it does. It's a 30 to 45 day time period of routine, routine, routine. And if you're not willing to give it that time, you're not in my mind, you're not fully committed to trying to trying to adjust your current mental situation.
01:15:10
Speaker
You know, people will be like, oh, seven days, I don't feel any different. I'm not taking this shit anymore. Or seven days and I've got a headache for the last three. I'm not taking this anymore. Yes, your body has a foreign substance introduced to it. That's like taking somebody who's never had caffeine a day in their life and telling them to shotgun a 20 ounce Red Bull. What the fuck do you think is going to happen to them? Give them a heart attack. Thank you. But these people expect these changes to happen overnight. And a little secret, much like being a bigger guy, being fat,
01:15:44
Speaker
your mental health didn't get like that overnight. I didn't get like this overnight. None of these things are going to change overnight. And people want this instant cure all. And I think that that creates a lot of animosity towards the big pharma companies and it also in it in Intensifies the depression when they don't get the result they want in the time they want because it becomes Incredibly discouraging and that's why most diets fail because people become discouraged So early on that they just quit doing it because they don't see the results they think they should see in X period of time because Society has given them this mindset of this is how you should be after you do this for for this amount of time hmm
01:16:32
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Yes, us body perception, one's self body perception can definitely go into their their state of mind or mood, definitely. I can see how how this time of year, it could definitely exacerbate that. How many women do you see freaking, or do you know, even through movies, oh, I gained 20 pounds over the holidays.
01:17:01
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You know, yeah we've we've seen it in movies our whole life growing up. Oh, I can't eat that. They're at a Christmas party. I can't eat that. It'll go straight to my hips. You know, how many times do we hear that saying in some movie growing up? Yeah, no, I don't remember. I do remember that in in some movies. I don't see it too much in like newer movies. The, the body shaming thing. I think in a lot of ways we, we have gotten better at that.
01:17:26
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but not completely but yes But our generation, it still rings strong. And because as a whole, humans are so judgmental on what's different than they believe is the norm. That's where you end up with the body shaming, the bullying, the stuff. And that truly weighs my 13 year old son is ready to basically starve himself and work out 10 hours a day.
01:17:55
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because kids at school are poking at him because he's five foot nine at 180 pounds at 13 years old.
01:18:05
Speaker
Like he's 13 though. He can like grow into that. Oh, he's still, he's still, he's he's still probably going to grow two more inches. And yes, if you want to lose weight, bro, you're 13. You're at an age where I can allow you to adjust your eating and to work out. If you were eight, I would say fuck no. You haven't even a puberty yet. I'm not going to give you that. You know what I mean? Cause your body's going to change six more times in the next four years, but you're 13 years old, you know,
01:18:32
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glick You've heard why its voice dropped in the last four years. That kid's gone down octaves. So you're at a point now where if if you were playing football in school, they would have you weight training. They would have you training routinely and with exercise and stuff.
01:18:48
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you know so I'll let you do that now. And I told him, because I gained back a lot of the weight that I lost pre-COVID, I said, bro, first of the year, it's not a new year's resolution. It's just an easy day to remember that I started on. I will get back into my old routine of doing what I did once already to lose a hundred pounds. I said, now you're in there along the side of you.
01:19:16
Speaker
That's, that's what, uh, Nikki and I are going to do. Uh, I know I've been talking about it and I just haven't been able to get into a routine, but it's not a resolution. It's just, or a start get past holidays where you get into the routine, stay in the routine. And, you know, and you know, we'll have to get through mid February to get past all the resolutioners because the gym will be packed.
01:19:40
Speaker
mid February, you're going way out. You're lucky if they make it to the end of January, the diehards will make it to mid February, but the true resolutioners, they usually fall out of the gym by end of January. Up here. It's usually, uh, by the second week of February, right around Valentine's day. You start to see that you start to see the numbers start to dwindle down towards the end of January, but you see the big drop off around Valentine's day.
01:20:11
Speaker
So one of the big reasons why I loved working out at three 30 in the morning. Nobody was golf. I don't know who golf Hawk is, but now he's, he's excited over a victory and an irrelevant fantasy football league that for whatever reason, once we get to fantasy football, my, my teams can't produce and I fall apart in the playoffs, even though I, I lost i large myouts yesterday too i had the best record at three leagues and I'm battling for third and two of them and probably third. now Yeah. Yeah. If you'd ever, if you'd ever grow a pair and grow up and be a man and join a man's league, then he really wouldn't fare so well. But when you're in a league where four feet there's 10 people, four of them are active. And then one's just active out of spite me being that one because I'm a,
01:21:05
Speaker
asshole ah and even then I don't pay that much attention to i just make sure nobody's hurt nobody's on biweek outside of that it's like say optimize But you you factor these things into into your seasonal depression. You know factor the financial stress. You factor the physical stress that your body goes through with the weight gain, the eating, the the judgment. the you know There's so many things this time of year that play a role that don't play a role in June, July and August. I factor being a Browns fan into my seasonal depression.
01:21:47
Speaker
but Good for years. I've been in an abusive relationship with the Buffalo Bills. For the first time ever, it looks like my my year long marriage might actually make it to culmination. I golf on good city bed long time no see Merry Christmas and I will diminish and minimize your dominance until you grow a pair and join a man's league and actually do anything.
01:22:15
Speaker
But there's just so many things that play into this time of year, man. And it makes it so hard. and anyway link Yeah, there's a lot. mean its It's tough. It's it's it's like um remember that game when we were growing up? What was it called? On thin ice or whatever. You had like the like the paper towel and you put it across the tube. Yeah, yeah. That's basically what we're doing this time of year is there's so many uh there's so many factors and they just kind of pile onto each other until eventually that quote unquote ice breaks free and we're we're in a ah spiral you know and you go ahead yeah i just say like we we find ourselves in that downhill spiral we find ourselves in bunks and
01:23:10
Speaker
It's a lot easier for me to get out of punks these days than it was a couple of years back, but nonetheless. So many things that play into it though. Yeah. And so much of it's beyond our control. Like one of the biggest things right now that's causing, I would comfortably say the most depression is the economy. People just aren't making enough money to get by based on the cost of living right now.
01:23:40
Speaker
and It's I make the most money I've ever made in my life and struggle harder than I ever have. Yeah. Um, now, I mean, I took quite a substantial pay cut to come back home to Ohio where the cost of living, which is surprising, the cost of living, I guess not. I mean, the cost of living up here is so much higher than it was down in Charleston.
01:24:08
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and um That is kind of surprising. yeah Taxes are different, things are a lot different. Coastal Town, though. You're thinking, think Coastal Town. That's a touristy town, Charleston is. Yeah, but a lot of, we a lot you also have to figure out a lot of revenue. Yeah, you got paid according. A lot of ah lot of revenue comes into the city and the surrounding areas based off of tourists, so they're also able to keep cost that. They paid according. Yeah, and they paid according, too.
01:24:36
Speaker
well yeah Yes and yes and no. um But you know, I made the joke when I first got down there, I was making $8 less an hour than what I was making up here when I got when I like the first not quite a year I was there. But I brought home double when I was bringing home here. Yeah, Texas. You know what I mean? Something. Oh. But I mean,
01:25:05
Speaker
I can read the same amount of money up here. If I had stayed with the company I was with down there, the problem was is is different managers, some, you know, we had a good branch, uh, and working, uh, what I seen from the branch up here, uh, they had their heads up their asses. So, but, uh, and that, you know,
01:25:35
Speaker
That factors into a lot of things, too. and But yeah, I mean, I mean, the cost of living up here is ridiculous. I get paid on Friday or every other Friday. And I sit down 10 minutes into my shift at work and go, well, it's nice to have that in my checking account for about an hour because it goes right up the bucket as fast as it goes out. Well, no joke, last Friday got paid and taken one day off of work.
01:26:02
Speaker
fucking eats my check for ridiculous amount of money. And I was like, I got paid Friday at eight Oh two. And by eight and 40, I was like, well, that was good. That was fun. Why not lasted? Yeah, it wasn't even because all there was pay bills.
01:26:23
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I know that. phil yeah that's That's right. you know That's, that's kind of where I was going with that. It's, it's kind of a, uh,
01:26:32
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it's it's just a pile on effect man and and this time of year you can't there's no escape like in the summertime you can get out you can go do things you can gri get about to spend a little while yeah you can sit on the patio and you know uh go to the beach go to the lake whatever you're into um just kind of stuck inside left to think about all the bullshit i've never i i've never i've never been a big fan of the holidays uh especially as i bomb as you know, growing up as a kid, you remember, oh man, it was like family was always together for Thanksgiving. And then you were always together for like, but as you get older, that starts to dwindle or for me, I just don't really associate with my family much at all. Or if I live too far away, the economy's made it where I can't travel home to go see my family if I wanted to.
Holiday Loneliness and Personal Traditions
01:27:25
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So like the last, well, I won't say the last six years, I,
01:27:31
Speaker
I kind of get into a funk around the holidays just because I don't really care for him. Now things are getting a little bit different now with Mickey and, Mickey and I being in together and whatnot. And you have a good potential set of in-laws too. Yeah. Um, and, and, and, and whatnot. like but potential There's still time for her to run away. Try to find out where I put the key to the padlock. I got her changed. Until, until that license is signed in ink, there's time for her to run away.
01:28:01
Speaker
Um up until the last well, I mean even even this year like thanksgiving I was I was alone. I mean we joked around about me making tiktoks on thanksgiving because I I spent the day alone. I I cooked my own dinner You know, you cook thanksgiving dinner for one and then you just drink your face off and by like six o'clock It's like i'm gonna make tiktoks Yep and And then it was the same way with like Christmas, like the the kids would be there on Christmas Eve, but then Christmas morning or, you know, Christmas around noon, they were gone again. So then I just spent Christmas by myself. So it was like, well, what am I going to do for dinner tonight? Yeah. Let's go. Got booze. Got some food. Bro, this year I decided I'm not going to Christmas time.
01:28:52
Speaker
I'm not doing Christmas dinner. I told my kids. I said, look, this is what I'm going to do. I'm going to get us some hard rolls, some Kaiser rolls. I'm going to get us a bunch of cold cuts. um I might get us some chips and dip and a veggie tray. And you can just pick and eat as you choose, because you're not going to get by the time I pick you up at noon, we get the hour drive back to my house done. It's going to be one o'clock. By the time we get through the gifts and all that jazz,
01:29:18
Speaker
we're looking at three o'clock. I'm not starting a Christmas dinner at three o'clock in the afternoon. And I'm not starting it at 9 a.m. to let it be cooking while I'm gone and hope that it's still cooking when I get home and the house didn't burn down. You know, so it's, we're going to do this for Christmas this year because when I was growing up, we went to my grandma's on Christmas Eve. This is what we did at her house and it worked out well.
01:29:46
Speaker
you know And there's nothing wrong with that. you know Nikki and I talked about that for Thanksgiving this year because it was just the two of us. We were going to try to go back to her, go to PA, but it didn't work out um with our work schedules and shit like that. It just wouldn't have been worth the trip because it had literally been three hours there and then turnaround and three hours back. you know um But we talked about it. She's like, do you want like to do like a traditional Thanksgiving being style dinner for the two of us? Or do you just want to get like a bunch of shit and just pick? And I was like, what if you want to cook dinner? We could do dinner for the two of us. um and And that was the first time she'd ever cooked Thanksgiving dinner. She's like, she's never done it before. And then it wound up being a good night because then my daughter and and and and her boyfriend came got home. And ah you know we sat up and played games. And Wally fucked around all night.
01:30:43
Speaker
um And but uh Yeah, it's just you when you know that the holidays are coming up and when you know that you're gonna be alone It's just really kind of wears on the site cuz like, you know My boss gave us the ability to work for home tomorrow and I'm like I'm home by myself My kids aren't here Works gonna be super slow What am I gonna do all day?
01:31:12
Speaker
you know, same thing as Christmas morning. ah is It was like, oh yeah, I guarantee I wake up the snap chance at least 30 snap chats Christmas morning. When I wake up with people already eyeball deep in presence with their family and stuff. And I'm like, okay, mine doesn't start for another couple hours. I'm glad you had a good morning. Like I'm going to get up and make coffee at my own leisurely base. Like I don't have, ah last year was different because I lived with Susan. The year before it was different because I lived with Susan.
01:31:40
Speaker
this year, I feel like, and I'll be honest, it's been a struggle to get in the Christmas season, to get in the holiday season for me, because again, I sit in a house by myself. and so so like why what's up So when I have a hard time getting in the Christmas spirit, so to say, or the holiday spirit, so to say, I remind myself that I'm not obligated to. I'm obligated to get in the spirit to make other people happy.
01:32:09
Speaker
I'm not saying wallow in self misery. I'm just saying that if you can't get into the holiday spirit, find something else that'll lighten your mood, or you find enjoyment. It doesn't have to be. I am obligated to. And I have to be super careful how I phrase this, so it's not incredibly offensive. But my kids are the reason I'm obligated to be in the holiday spirit. Because I don't want to crush that.
01:32:39
Speaker
Yeah, they are in that. hu They are still at that age where they're super excited for Christmas all the time. If I'm just a Debbie Downer, it's going to take from them and they're not going to want to be around me. Yeah. So I do have to be, I do have a a sense of obligation. Now, do I have decorations up all over my house? No. My Christmas spirit is I let my kid do what she loves to do the most. She put my Christmas tree up and like tradition.
01:33:11
Speaker
The very last thing to go on was the star and I'm big on that. I was raised. Dad is always the one that puts a star on a tree. So every year since my divorce, I've been the one to put the star on the tree. It's been a different star or a different something or other every year. Last year was a Buffalo Bill, Santa. This year we're back to a regular star. You know, so my kids get excited for that and they, they,
01:33:37
Speaker
They really want me in that holiday spirit. So I have to, I'm almost obligated to be in that spirit for them, or at least fake it in front of them. But faking it in front of them makes it harder for me when they're not around. Yeah. and know and That's kind of how it felt for me. And, you know, not so much. ah And I enjoy doing it. Like I enjoy doing this stuff with, with the kids at the last couple of years. Well, up until last year.
01:34:06
Speaker
Uh, we, our tree topper was a fan of Scotland that I got. And it has led lights lights. The kids thought that was, that was the coolest thing ever. There's like, you guys yeah this is another thing that really, that really kind of puts a damper on my holiday spirit. And you guys having both lived in places where it snows and living in places where it doesn't snow.
01:34:33
Speaker
present fine without the snow But the snow and on with the the snow makes Christmas lights that much better to look at. Looking at them with a dark brown background does not give them any sense of of attraction but when you put that white backdrop of a snow behind it they may it makes them like if I go walk through Christmas lights with my kids odds are it's going to be cold and dry or cold and rainy here but in New York if you went and went through Christmas lights it was snow it was lights you know you can kind of goof off and throw snowballs at each other what am I gonna do pick up a handful of wet leaves and slap my son in the face with them
01:35:16
Speaker
You know, i've been joke i would this snow the snow has in the snow in my mind has a drastic effect on the brain's perception of how good the Christmas lights look. So because since I've lived down here, I hate going to look at them because they're just ugly because there's just darkness. behind I will. I will say, I mean, that might be when we lived in Charleston, we always went to one of the one of the parks on James Island and they did a really good job. I mean, you basically it was one of the drive through where you drove through and seen all the lights. But then they also had a winter wonderland with Santa's shop and everything like that. And they they really made it feel Christmasy. Yeah, you got I got it. I got to jump down, guys. Sorry. You're good. It's it's cooking time. Talk to you later. You'll have a later happy holidays.
01:36:15
Speaker
Happy holidays, bud. Merry Christmas, brother. Shit, yeah. You know, that that's been something that that's been something since I moved south that's really been a big hindrance on my Christmas spirit. You know, and when I was married, it was such a big deal because I had stuff to focus on. I had a family right there. But when you get down to where it's just a nitty gritty, where it's just me right now, dude, I'm not going to. I won't turn my tree on until Wednesday. I don't care. Yeah.
01:36:44
Speaker
Yeah. Like I, we, we always did the decorations and stuff like that. You know, I know the kids enjoyed it. Um, I enjoyed it with them, but, uh, it's just that it's, it's, I think that's been all, you know, that that's been one of the biggest things of that, and then like this year's Christmas compared to last year's Christmas, not so good. Or, you know, like, man, last year I was able to do this or, you know, whatever. There's always that comparison. You're always trying to walk the year prior almost.
01:37:15
Speaker
and But you know, like my kids are pretty cool like because one of the things that we do one of the things that we've always done is um And I like a lot of families you'll get up Christmas morning and there'll be a fuck ton of presents under the tree and they're all from Santa Claus No, I think Santa browns is your stocking.
Santa's Gifts, Family Antics, and Traditions
01:37:32
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Yeah, they're the same at my house The only thing that's tagged from Santa is the stocking understand dad worked his ass off to put that under the tree. Yeah ah and it and then There might be one, there might be like one other gift that's from Santa, you know, like one small random thing. Like if I do that, it's usually a family gift where we can all enjoy like a ah game or something like that. But that's my Santa gift, but it's not only that, but I just didn't, I just didn't want the kids to grow up with like some kind of. False narrative because you know, every critic like one Christmas it might've had a really good year and have a lot of extra money to spend.
01:38:13
Speaker
and you go out, you, you, you, you get a little bit more crazy with the gifts, but then the next year you're like, Oh, I know it's, it's, it's slim pickings, but you still make new. I just don't, I didn't want them to have that. Like, Oh, why did last year did Santa bring us all this stuff? And then this year, Santa only brought us a little bit of stuff. But but yeah you know but yeah it's also, just it's also a way to keep that like,
01:38:42
Speaker
Cause like my, my, my son is, is 11 and he still believes in Santa. And I'm going to let him believe as long as he wants. i didn say okay over I did the same thing with the girls and shout out, you know, and shout out to the girls. They play along with them. Like we did the whole health thing. They play along with them. They don't ruin in it or anything like that. oinel but I got to do something with him or we got to do something. with him tonight It's better when, it's better when, when he gets older and he doesn't believe, and then you can do the adult team stuff with the elf. Get him the naked Barbies and the, I mean, not everything I've done has been kid friendly. oh yeah ah A good chunk of it has been, but not and like there was one time when cash with the girls were still little.
01:39:29
Speaker
and And our elf got really drunk and made a mess in the kitchen. Yeah. And left liquor bottles and beer bottles and naked Barbies laying. So I know I know we're getting ready to wrap this up because I know it's creeping up on nine o'clock and I know you probably didn't expect to go to sleep. Oh, do you do sorry, but it's not the dog in the nose. at the center Do you do what's called a pickle gift?
01:39:59
Speaker
No, but I think I've heard of that. Isn't that like a, isn't that like a, a gag gift or Oh, I look pickle. You hide a pickle in the tree and whoever finds it gets a gag gift.
01:40:12
Speaker
nice It's called a pickle gift. So, you take your pickle ornament and you you hide it somewhere there and as you can see, mine's been through. I think my daughter was four and thought it was a real pickle at one point. I got a mouthful of glitter but you hide the pickle in the tree and then whoever finds it gets a gag gift. So, this year,
01:40:33
Speaker
I'm going to do a ridiculous pair of socks and that's going to be a gag gift. They might be, be this a butt head, you know, socks where they've got their hair on. Yeah.
01:40:47
Speaker
That's cool. I have to, I have to incorporate that. That's, that's been a tradition in my family since I can remember my, ah my German grandmother told us about it. So it's always been, you know, what kind of ridiculous stuff can you come up with? And you don't, you don't spend a lot. It's usually a $20 or less gift. Yeah. Um, so it's like, you know, so I got to hide the pickle on Wednesday morning.
01:41:15
Speaker
And, you know, the kids will get something ridiculous for, for finding it, you know, and it's something so stupid. Like I could do this. I could literally do this. Nice. nikki got on one of those Just something dumb, just something, something super dumb, but it's something that's super funny at the same time. Because it's not enough time.
01:41:46
Speaker
it was Boy, I'm glad they gave that guy a pair of shorts. yeah We've all got that text message before. Yeah. No, yeah, we do. We've always done. Our tradition has always been Christmas Eve. You get an ornament and and new Christmas jammies. Okay. Um, but you never, like, like you don't know what you're jamming.
01:42:10
Speaker
your pajamas are going to be everybody. that Like, so, uh, uh, all three of the kids got them and then Nikki and I will get them as well. Like, so, and we'd open those on Christmas Eve. That way everybody can go to bed in their Christmas jammies and wake up in their Christmas. And they're not always, and they're not necessarily very rarely are they ever really Christmas themed. They're just new pajamas yeah at the end of the day. Like I'm trying right now so hard to find something that is going to work.
01:42:40
Speaker
especially because we're in a house full of people that enjoy to be comfy. So a nice new pair of comfy pajamas that you can lounge around in is always a good, there's always a win in this house. You know, Amazon's not going to be able to give me anything by Christmas. Yeah. Considering 99% of the time, everybody in this house is in sweats or t-shirt anyways, when we're home. Yeah.
01:43:10
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but So for shorts or whatever.
01:43:14
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Well, I'm glad that we had the opportunity to to I'm glad I came up. We were able to talk a little bit about this. I kind of got derailed a bit. I ain't worried about it. I mean, it's the topic of conversation was good. It's still relevant for the show. It's not like we've got sidetracked and spent an hour talking about. ah Football or something, you know what I mean?
01:43:39
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ah completely derailed the the entirety are the entire relevance of the show yep uh-oh what was that what was that warning about i didn't do it uh we had some drama last night after i got done on the show i should have told you about that today or yesterday after i got done on the show i should have told you about that today i totally forgot oh
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but anyho Hopefully after the holidays,
Adjusting to New Beginnings during Holidays
01:44:09
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we'll get this show back under control. We'll get this show back ah Connor will be able to I will say on Connor's behalf He um started a new job. So that's that's huge. That's awesome. I just like broken <unk> like Yeah He's also back in school, and this is not me putting his business out here. It's something he's talked about and i'm in a on different shows. But he also started school about the same time he started the new job. And now we're in the holiday season and they're traveling and visiting family and stuff like that. So it's been a little hectic in Connor's world. Hopefully after he gets back from after, you know, after the holidays and everything like that, Connor will get back into some kind of rotation on Mondays to wear the shows.
01:44:58
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ah aren't one and if need be from time to time all I don't want to do it all the time but every once in a while I'll slide in on a Monday and jump back into the driver's seat. wow We do appreciate everybody and anybody who who listen tonight. ah Go talk if you got your ears on out here feel free to pop in on Sunday night that's where we are Sunday morning that's where we get in the chatters box that's where we talk all things foosball foosball related.
Fantasy Football and Podcast Promotion
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talk about how I got my ass kicked in three leagues. um I made the playoffs have lost miserably, like 173 to like 113. Yeah, I battled for third place in my league. And like I said, I wasn't paying attention to the podcast league. And I told Derek I was going to take a dive for him and didn't realize that me doing that was going to knock me out of the playoffs when it did.
01:45:58
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it has a cat theory Just give my ass kicked by him in the consolation bracket Well talk about an ass kicking green Bay's currently up 21 nothing over the same Talk up another win for this guy oh I Will tell you I had three lone wolves and I'm two and one of my lone wolves I
01:46:28
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I'll tell you Matt got me seven fucking points yesterday. I'll tell you your fucking boy Josh Allen got me 10 fucking points. dude we' talk about savage um Both of them coming off of games where they had 40 plus points on a fucking board for their team yeah to get seven points. Come on now. Yeah. We'll talk about that Sunday. Yeah, for sure. That'll be fun.
01:46:53
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but Anywho, now, appreciate y'all listening. Appreciate y'all hanging out. If I don't get a chance to say, well, I'll get a chance to say it, but I'm gonna say it now. No, I won't get a chance to say it, but Merry Christmas, everybody. Hopefully you guys enjoy your your Christmas with the with the family, with the kids, with your 12 pack, whatever you may be doing. You know, try to make the best of your day. Enjoy the company that you have. And hopefully Santa brings you everything you ask for for Christmas. That's right. That's right.
01:47:25
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Um, we'll, uh, bye Nikki. Have a great Christmas. just cause i won't I won't talk to her between now and Christmas. I only changed that with you. So, um, so I'll put that out there and, uh, y'all need to win. They need to be Kansas city. I need, need them to be Kansas city.
01:47:49
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Like it's a bunker requirement if you don't, don't show your face. I mean, I need them to beat them too. So yeah, but I need it for real playoff implications for us. Yeah. You guys needed to make the playoffs. I needed for us to get the number one seed and not have to play them and get knocked out in the first round.
01:48:11
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Well, they won't play the first round, so it'll be the second round. Thanks. Either way, because they're going to buy the first round. Fuck me. We're going to make it out of the first round this year. Let's go. buing over one Every year we seem to make it to the championship game every year. That's it. Very nice. And if they don't if they play like they did last night, they're not going to make it into the fucking after for the first round because yesterday it was a fucking nightmare. But we'll talk about that on Sunday. Yeah, we'll talk about that on Sunday.
01:48:40
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All right. All right. Have a good night. I'm going to do my spiel and get the hell out of here. You too. Merry Christmas, man. I'm sure I'll pay you that before I fucking for Christmas. Oh, yeah, I'm sure. I get I'm working from home tomorrow, but it's still going to be up at fucking 6 a.m. So I'll still be awake. I'm technically off tomorrow, but I have to go in. Yeah. No, I have. I think I get double time. I got to man the phones for three hours in the morning to show. I just have to go in for a couple of hours. So no biggie. All right, buddy.
01:49:10
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We'll catch you later. Bye, everybody. I got to do my spiel real quick. Listen, everybody, happy, and happy, whatever. Merry Christmas. Yeah, that's what it is. Happy Monday. Happy what? Happy Monday. Happy Monday. Yeah, happy Monday. Merry Christmas. We may or may not see you guys Wednesday night. Definitely won't see you tomorrow night, but check out all the shows. Monday through Sunday, Mondays, we kick off with cold-blooded stories, sorry, speedway stories and cold-blooded conversations.
01:49:38
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6 p.m. hosted by Wally. Right after him at seven is Men Can for Men hosted by Connor and whoever he has with him. Tuesdays is Glick's House of Music. We'll be back in two weeks, taking the next two weeks off with more guests, talking to upcoming local artists. musical shaking thehood and I know, I'm shaking everything.
01:50:01
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I always do. Uh, Wednesdays is what the fuck news. That's Jeff and myself. If it's in the news and it makes us say what the fuck, we're going to talk about it. And don't forget, we always have your penis report as well. That's a thing.
01:50:16
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And Thursdays is Jeff's garage at the beginning, after the beginning of the new year, he should be on a more regular basis, Friday, nonsense and chill. That's blazing. Jeff watching movies, hanging out. They got new things coming for the new year.
01:50:29
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And then Saturdays is the main event, nonsensical nonsense. With the Open Door Challenge, we drop the link. We dare you guys to come up and hang out with us as the lunatics take over the asylum. And then on Sundays, and we're getting close to football season being up, however, we may keep it going with other sports. We'll see what's going on. But that's unnecessary roughness. That's myself, Rick and Derek Wayne. And we're making football picks, talking a little college football.
01:50:57
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