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S2E7: Today is Murder Day
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Series spoilers abound! Today we’re discussing Season 2, Episode 7 “If You’re So Smart, Then Why Are You Dead?” and IT’S MURDER DAY! The boy’s have been called to investigate a murder that hasn’t happened yet at the special Meitner School for the gifted. Little do they know, one of these things is not like the other. We’re talking high school, geniuses, dyads, and game theory. So, hone in on your cobs of paranormalevelence and join Kylie and Skyler on this episode of Phsysics 101!
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Introduction to 'Physi 6 101' and Episode Title Discussion
00:00:20
Speaker
All right. Hi, everyone, and welcome to Physi 6 101, where we discuss everything about the world of Psych and the antics of Shawn and Gus in sunny Santa Barbara. I'm Skylar, and this is my partner, B.A. Barakas. And today we're talking about season two, episode seven of the famed TV show, Psych. If you're so smart, then why are you dead?
00:00:40
Speaker
good title. However, I was like, I was like, man, I feel like we've the title, we've talked a lot about how the titles like very smartly connect to the crime. And here I was like, I don't know if it was their best work. um Okay. Because I was like, oh, it's fun. It's like,
00:01:03
Speaker
It's very long, which I like. I like that in a psych title because it's just so silly to make it really long. yeah But it is kind of like a schoolyard kind of insult. like So maybe it feels kind of like that, which actually, now that I say that they are out of school, so. Right, right. Yeah, like if you're so whatever, you're a mumble.
00:01:27
Speaker
yeah Yeah, no, that that makes sense. And even, I feel like they, they even mentioned the joke in the episode, don't they? Doesn't Sean at one point go, if you're so smart, why don't you solve the case or something? He does. Yeah. i put that together Okay. So maybe, maybe I do like it a little bit more. so you on it Yes. I appreciate the sell.
00:01:51
Speaker
And I guess, yeah, one of the, one of, we end up finding out that it's one of the students who is our
Origins and Themes: 'Physi 6' and Episode Insights
00:01:58
Speaker
culprit. So I guess it kind of makes sense that it's a little more juvenile because theoretically the student is also juvenile. theoretical Theoretically. Theoretically. Yeah, exactly. So I, with it. I lied. Okay. I'm okay with it. Well, we worked through it. Yeah. Yeah. As you know, one must do sometimes.
00:02:21
Speaker
Another thing I liked that I thought about like being what I wanted to say coming on the pot was today's murder day. Um, maybe that can be the start of like the episode summary or something. Cause it feels so exciting. Oh yeah. That could be the title today's murder day. Oh yeah. That would be funny. You write it down because I will forget. Um,
00:02:50
Speaker
This, I mean, this is a big episode for us for many reasons. Oh my gosh, I know. That's why I brought out the big notebook. Okay, we've got her big notebook.
00:03:02
Speaker
um Yeah, this is the origin of fasci six. Yes. Our area of study. um So that's very exciting. Yes. Although we, we I feel like when we conceptualized the psychics, Sean means the psychics as the physics of psychics. I feel like we thought of it as the philosophy of psychics or like the philosophy of psych, you know? Okay. And they both just kind of fell together in a way that also meant psychics.
00:03:36
Speaker
I mean it definitely has I feel like it can it can definitely live in both of those and maybe it is both of those you know like we are trying to look at psych in a lot of different from a lot of different angles that's true a lot of different lenses so maybe that's okay yeah it's multi-dimensional mm-hmm very much so And then we added the 101 at the end because in our mind, this is kind of like a, like a class where we're like doing extra homework on, you know, the references. There's so many, but then we're also diving really deep into what we think the meaning of all of this is. And hopefully, you know, teaching you a little bit about some things that you didn't catch that maybe we didn't catch the first time either. is So yeah, curriculum was definitely like a key yeah word for us.
00:04:24
Speaker
We've had like two big curriculums curriculum ah points so far with watching Black Christmas and grade E. Yeah. We'll have some more in the future. Oh, and of course. Oh, and American Idol. American Idol, right. Did they watch any others previously? I don't think so. was Yeah, maybe not. They definitely start doing more of that later. Yeah. As they become more psyche. Yeah. And we want to also go in different directions, like with just like other work that the folks have done and things like that. Yeah. It's kind of a sidebar, but I have been thinking a lot about the Wolf episode. I think because it's Halloween time. The, the werewolf one.
00:05:04
Speaker
yeah Yeah, like how we're gonna watch Werewolf in London and stuff. And I'm just like, no, I can't wait for that. Yeah. It's gonna be so good. Yeah, it is. It's thinking about it. season Yeah.
Flashbacks and New Case: Chess, Murder, and High School Dynamics
00:05:16
Speaker
So our flashback for today is a chess flashback. I love this flashback. I love this one. However, I had like no recollection of it. I was like, they're playing chess. It makes so much sense for Sean. but I was like, wow. It was fun to see.
00:05:33
Speaker
Henry almost be like, you know, strategy is very important. Yes. When you're on the force, you have to think five steps ahead. I was like, oh, love this. Yeah, very much a lesson. Always. It's kind of a non-traditional way. Like we usually see his lessons be very like on the nose, I guess. Like I'm going to put you in the trunk of a car. Right, right.
00:05:56
Speaker
how many hats or whatever but this is like kind of I don't know like karate kid like wax in the car like it's like a little more metaphorical in a way yes yeah abstract perhaps yes which is fun but yeah so Henry says if you're gonna play this game you're gonna learn the names of the pieces because Sean has Sean's being very Sean and being very silly about it of course And then yeah, when you're on the force, you're going to have to take in a huge amount of information, which I love that Henry's like writing his whole life away. He's got it all figured out. And then, and Sean kind of acts like he, well, he's like, I don't want to play. And he like acts like he doesn't know anything about it. And then
00:06:39
Speaker
Checkmate. It was really, it was so fun because and one of the lines that Henry sends says is this game is an allegory for life. I felt like at the same time this flashback was like an allegory for the show. Absolutely.
00:06:55
Speaker
It was just so good, like Henry trying to teach these lessons for to Sean, and Sean like slightly taking it the wrong way, but like also being a goof during the whole thing and then kind of outsmarting Henry in the end. Like it was just- Yeah, whatever it was like, he's playing Henry's game by his own rules, which is exactly what, like that's the show. Yes, absolutely. And he's like, yeah, he's acting like he doesn't want any of it, anything to do with it, but he is going to do it and he's going to do it well, um but he's going to do it his own way.
00:07:29
Speaker
Yeah. like And in like, I don't want to say typical Henry fashion, but in what I think we've realized from watching the show is that Henry ultimately gets what he wanted, which is Sean working on the force. Without what cost. Without what cost, exactly. I think it's so fun that we then see them playing the chess at the end, like just kind of bookends the episode. And he's like, bought him a brand new chess set. Oh my gosh.
00:07:56
Speaker
And it just like perfectly kind of wraps up. We even get, um, Sean making a very like breaking up the fourth wall reference to, you know, Oh, if we just put yeah a wig on you, you look like a spinning image of yourself 30 years ago or yourself when I was a kid. Yeah. Just a really great episode, like through and through. I feel like it just, it felt very well summed, you know? Yeah.
00:08:21
Speaker
Yeah. And I mean, since we are, we referenced it a little bit already, like in that last scene, I love, it's just such a sweet it is because it is full circle. And like the fact that ah Sean is meeting up with Henry to give him this beautiful chess set and also just debrief the case. Like he's just filling him in, basically. Like there's no advice happening. There's no anything. It's just like very like, you know, how was your week, son? Like it's so normal. It was very cute. Yeah. it's Yeah, when I love I love the little quip in there where Henry was like, you know, what did you do for you know, to get this these looked handcrafted and she was like, I stole it. i i shop with this And but then of course, he's like, no, no, I actually bought it.
00:09:11
Speaker
Yeah, it was just yeah. And the kids set him up with an IPO like, oh my god, adorable. So cute. I mean, and Gus in the background is just oh my god, so funny. We'll have to come back to the scene. But we will. but Yeah, perfect. Yeah. but all We're making bookends.
00:09:37
Speaker
wrap up ah yeah like what am i what word am like ah What's the stuff on the side of the building that they're working that they're doing construction on? Scaffold? Scaffolding. Scaffolding for the episode. It's like holding it up. yeah Yes, it's beautiful.
00:09:58
Speaker
Very well done. And also fun because we get a reference to game theory and prisoner's dilemma when Jules and Lassie don't know how to be good cop, bad cop from our little genius kids. So that's kind of fun too, because that's all chess is about, right? strategy yeah yeah Yes. Oh yes. They're so cute and they're big words. They are so cute.
00:10:22
Speaker
They are too cute. So yeah, our are frame of the case or the frame of the episode for the week is that we have two genius high schoolers who go to a very prestigious, genius school essentially, it's called Meitner School, have contacted Sean via email, in all caps of course, about there being a potential murder. And the information that they have is essentially just that they think a teacher at the school is going to murder someone based on something that they heard while trying to tap into a satellite or something. and Yeah, they like caught a phone call. Yes. So we are going back to high school to see what we can figure out. And it definitely leads to some very interesting shenanigans throughout the episode.
00:11:09
Speaker
So we start actually with a client, which we haven't really seen too many clients outside of the police department, which was fun. It was really fun. And I love, so it's this young woman who is trying to have Sean figure or like psychically tell if her boyfriend is cheating on her. And um through some questions, he determines that she is the other woman and he's married.
00:11:41
Speaker
um but Could you imagine bummer ah yeah what she must be feeling? Yeah. It's a nice representation of the other woman. like she Yeah, she just wants love too. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. I don't know. There is kind of this Island of Misfit toys energy of like the clients that Cytolex. Absolutely. they And I do. I love that about Sean.
00:12:06
Speaker
Because there's something very interesting with this in particular with like this woman because Gus is like, we've reached we've reached a certain level of success. We don't have to do this anymore. So it's like this is something that Sean has done. Yeah. um And now Gus feels that they're above it. and And then like we get these kids in the office and like ah Sean's apologizing for for this and like this yeah situation at their end. But like I do love that Sean kind of treats everybody sort of equally, you know, like I love when he talks to kids, like he always just talks to people, like people who takes them for what they are. Yeah. um And so I just that was like a really interesting setup.
00:12:48
Speaker
h for it. Another thing that I wondered if it was setting up is the Vic thing. The way she becomes chief is like they have somebody lined up for it already and like she's not getting her due basically and Shawn like, and the same kind of conversation happens in that episode where Gus is like, why are you tailing, cheating guys again? right right um And it turns out he did it like, oh, the goodness of his heart to get Yeah. Because it does establish that he does this. Right. Right. Well, I like how you said collect, he like collects misfit toys almost, which is so, I feel like almost counterintuitive for Sean when so much of his personality is like bravado and being cool and like doing the thing that's going to get him attention. Like this is not that.
00:13:43
Speaker
by any means. So I wonder if it's like a start of like some character development here, of him like growing up a little and realizing that it is important to also take the not so showy cases and like to help people or... Well, I do feel like he he says a lot.
00:14:04
Speaker
But I do feel like his actions do tend to be like, I don't know, like he prioritizes the truth, you know, like he. Yeah, that's true. He's never going to like cave for like the easy win or anything like that. So I do feel like that is like part of him. um And I mean, we've talked a bit about that, too. Like, is it just like the noble ideas or is like also he just like really likes to solve the mystery and like to know what happened. right um But he does have this, I don't know, I don't know if it would really be like empathy or like generosity.
00:14:49
Speaker
Maybe those things are part of it, but like, I don't know. Yeah, he'll just said yeah like He's a good person. Yeah, deep down.
Character Depth: Gus's School Rejection and Acceptance
00:14:57
Speaker
He is. Once we get through all the silliness. He like wants to help people. Yeah. well And again, I think we've talked about this before, but it's wonderful to see him like use his use his gift. h And this thing that he's now found he's really good at and he wants to do and he enjoys doing, not just for the show of it, but genuinely just help people. I think that's really, it's nice.
00:15:22
Speaker
Yeah. And i said even like working with these kids, they don't know if anything's going to come of it. They kind of have this feeling in the beginning, Memphis is silly. Yeah. yeah and And the fact that they just like, they're all in. I mean, Gus has like some ulterior motives a little bit, but like once they're in it,
00:15:44
Speaker
She's like in it too, you know? Like they're like this murder day. Like they're tracking this, like it's going to happen. yeah So they really take these kids seriously once they kind of get over their initial misgivings. Yeah, which which is also really interesting.
00:16:04
Speaker
I think it makes for an interesting episode where you then get Lassie and Jules who seemingly threw aside this case and were relegating it to not something so important. Hence why Lassie gives it to Jules in the first place because he thinks it's not going to be that big of a deal. So it's it's nice to see the clapping juxtaposition.
00:16:29
Speaker
I'm thinking like next to each other. Yeah, no, I understand. I'm trying to explain for the listeners what you got your hands. Yes, I'm pushing my hands together. It's like the position. It's kind of interesting seeing the ju juxtaposition of how the police are handling these kids, which is how most people would probably handle these kids or adults that don't work with children yeah as like, you know, maybe they're lying or they don't know what they're talking about. now And even how Gus and Sean initially react to the kids. Right. Right. Yeah. They're thinking they're going to get these like very prestigious, Shockland guard. Yeah. And turns out they're yeah just high school kids.
00:17:10
Speaker
But they do get some cred for, at least from Gus, ah for being from the genius school, the might year school. And then they seem to take them a little bit more seriously. I do love, I love these kids. Same. Just as characters. Yes. I mean, they're just unabashed nerds. Absolutely. I love that. They're so confident and like self-assured and they clearly like I don't know. They're like Paris Geller or something. Yeah. Yeah. Oh my gosh. Great, great reference. Yes. Like they know, they take themselves seriously. Yeah. Well, and anyway I wonder, sorry. Yeah. Well, that just like goes some way, you know, to like how these adults are responding to them because they're like, no, like
00:17:57
Speaker
Yeah, we know what we're talking about. Yeah, we know what we're saying. Well, I wonder if part of that comes from the fact that they are going to this genius school. No one is looking at them as these weird nerds who just happen to know all the answers for stuff into weird experiments in their basement at night. They are exactly who they are supposed to be for this school. Yeah, they're in an environment where it's set up, it's catered to them, and they're meant to thrive like they love one.
00:18:26
Speaker
the one I think Godard, that's the one with the curly hair. The brown hair? Yeah. I think so, yeah. um When he throws, when he's like asking a bunch of questions about the case and he's like, I'm adapting this into some Nancy Drew fan fiction. This like says it so good. Good for you. I just, I love that. As someone who works with kids, I just, I love seeing kids just being themselves. It's beautiful.
00:18:55
Speaker
but They are so they are they are so themselves and I feel like that does a lot for the power dynamics too like them coming from this school because they're like they know they are very smart and um and we see sort of these moments where like maybe the street smarts and like not so much but yeah but they're very confident in all these situations because they are like they feel great about themselves. Yeah, i I love to see it. Yeah, I love to see it, especially in a world where, i well, and this is 2007 world, so I suppose it's a totally different world than it is now. But you know, today I feel like i feel like our kids are so
00:19:35
Speaker
self-conscious and so concerned with how other people view them to see kids who are just like, I am me and you're going to take it or leave it. And this is how I am. Like I just, I yeah i love seeing that. like just Yeah. They're great role models.
00:19:51
Speaker
yeah They are. You're telling me I should make my children watch this episode of Psych done. this is um and While we're on the topic of the kids, I did do some research. I don't know if you did too, but you had mentioned you were got sure that this kid was in Sean versus the Red Pantom. He is. Yes! His name is Callum Worthy and he is credited for not one, not two, but three Psych episodes. Three? What is the third?
00:20:21
Speaker
didn't I don't know what character, maybe yeah maybe just the background actor or something. And so I have a theory um that like maybe he auditioned for Young Sean and wasn't a great fit, but maybe they just really liked him anyway and like looked for things that like wanted to give him yeah an opportunity. yeah because like the way i mean In the pilot, we'd have to go back and look, but he may just be like, Kind of a background. Yeah. Yeah So like from that to Malone to this where he's like, yeah ah the One of the main guests of the episode like good for him and does a great job. Yeah, he's great So great both of them did a fantastic job. Yeah, they are. Yeah, they're great
00:21:03
Speaker
Wow. So I'm glad that that is now confirmed and settled. Yes. That makes me feel. And you and I kept but like when I saw him in this episode, I was like, Oh, yeah, like I could like picture him on stage and like, okay, that is him, I think. And then I looked it up.
00:21:21
Speaker
Yes. Yep. You were right. Confirmed. Yes. Confirmed. I would just, I just looked down at my notebook and I would just like to um bring us back to the woman in the cafe for one second sure because this line cracked me up so hard. When the morning period is over, this is my friend Gus' card. He's a good listener and he's willing to change everything about himself for a girl. Oh my God. Way to hit the nail right on that. We just needed a remark about penmanship and then we would have been good to go. yeah Yeah, well, yeah, and he did, he gave her Gus's card right out of his breast pocket. Yeah, we know that number was written on the back. that's so she'll see the pen Yeah, that was amazing. Just there was a lot of really great lines in this episode here, but I have a lot of quotes written. say yeah Oh, another one.
00:22:15
Speaker
when they were walking in into the office to meet the two kids before they realized that kids. Gus is like going in ahead of Sean, all nice and fast. And he's like, I don't want you to scare them off with your non sequitur ridiculousness. Yes. Accurate. Accurate. Gus is so funny in this episode. oh he He is. He's a little unhinged. Yeah, he is. Like we go on such a journey with him, which we'll get into, but like, we're good. I mean,
00:22:44
Speaker
Now I've brought it up, I have to mention, just in the last scene, his delivery of... I know, I never got Karthik a day in my life screaming it into the phone. So funny. I feel like that's like an impression of someone.
00:23:02
Speaker
that I don't know, but it was, oh my God, I'm crying. It was so funny. It's so good. Iconic. Iconic guster. It's too funny. I've never gotten guster in my life. Yeah. Oh my God. Just the way it escalates. Oh, it's so funny.
00:23:19
Speaker
yeah and The physicality of it too is so good. is yeah This is a great i mean great performance episode for him and then just like such a great Gus character episode. Do we want to dig into it? Yes, let's do it. I feel like haven't gotten a Gus character episode in a while.
00:23:44
Speaker
yeah i mean
00:23:47
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Because this is kind of a Gus <unk> centric episode in a way. It's like a, yeah, like a Gus development episode. Yeah. Learn a little bit more. Back story kind of. Yes. um I mean, yeah, maybe not Gus on his own because I'm thinking like the the horse racing one, like we got them as a.
00:24:06
Speaker
Yes. They're just, yeah, them as a pair. But, but this is like Gus specific. And I guess actually we have kind of a good segue because we talked about Gus's kind of turn on taking this case. And it's because he was rejected from this Meitner school of geniuses near geniuses.
00:24:29
Speaker
So his goal is to kind of get back in there and see his file. yeah I think ultimately yeah that's what he wants to see what was said about him, I guess. i think that was Yeah, I think you're right. I think that was probably his ultimate goal. But it feels like before knowing that, it feels like he wants to get in almost to see what he was missing out on. Like this was a ah could have been type thing. Yeah.
00:24:54
Speaker
so he wants to experience it a little bit but yeah finding out that he really just wanted to see the file was yeah it's like he wants to get to the bottom of this and i mean understandably so because I mean, can we should we say it? Sure. Okay. Understandably so, because at the end of the day, we ended up finding out that he was actually accepted into Meitner and his parents decided that he wasn't going to go. So I'm sure from Gus's perspective, applying to this school, having the smarts to get in, having the interests. Yeah, no, he did an interview. like Probably a lot of work went in, even just to the admissions process. Absolutely.
00:25:31
Speaker
And then to like, not have it come to fruition, I'm sure he was very confused. Yeah, and now it makes sense as to why he did get in. Yeah, and Sean, you know, i like is that why you cried for a month when we were 10 or something like that? Like, yeah, I mean, um it hit him hard. Absolutely. And Okay, this might be a slight like mandala effect, mandala effect, mandala, that's funny, mandala, mandala effect. But I had some like weird recollection like in the very back of my brain that like Sean had something to do with it. I was hoping that was what you're going to say because I don't know. Who?
00:26:11
Speaker
well i I what I think and I think about it every time I watch this episode is that it feels like something Sean would have sabotaged and I really love hey that it's not because it's similar to some other things he does to Gus. I'm trying to think specifically there's something that he does when Gus is a child.
00:26:31
Speaker
Oh, is it putting putting? Well, there is that. I said that I was like, oh, losing yeah but I can see them like walking into the distance and like and we watched. Oh, the spelling bee. Oh, yeah. Giving him the wrong letter. Yeah. So I think that it's like a similar kind of thing where and his whole argument is like you would have had to study for like you would have never stopped studying. Like I give you a life. And so it's like all kind of very similar to yeah the arguments in this episode of I mean, like I don't know, his parents have some some various reasons. Like Sean is like, well, they didn't want you to they didn't want to separate you from me, which I think is your only friend. He's like, it wasn't imaginary. Yeah. But it definitely feels like Sean would have had a hand in it. Yeah, glad that he did not.
00:27:20
Speaker
No, same, absolutely. Well, especially because he's, you know, Sean screws Gus over so much, but ultimately he is his best friend. So this would be like a real betrayal to say I'm going to take such an opportunity away from you.
Private vs. Public Schooling: Impact on Gus and Students
00:27:33
Speaker
Yeah. Well, and knowing, I mean, Sean was 10 at the time. Like, yeah, this would, this would have required some pretty like serious infiltration, not just like giving Gus the wrong letter, you know, like you have had to do. I don't know why I had some like,
00:27:49
Speaker
some weird recollection in the back of my brain that like he ripped up the letter or like he it was set up something like that yeah maybe i mean that is kind of tropey so maybe i would have been a choice that they made yeah like they could have gone that route um But it is really funny that it's his parents. And something so silly too, not not finances, not like yeah he wasn't smart enough or it was going to be stressful just that they didn't want to drive the way you know. Well, it probably was a lot of things. Well, so they say to us. But they but they yeah keep he keeps like saying, like well, yeah we could have done this. It could have been like that. And then they're like, he didn't yeah they didn't want to drive that far. Yeah.
00:28:34
Speaker
so Which i I'd be shocked if they didn't have like buses or something. Well, the way they make it sound, it's like probably must be out in the the wilderness. Yeah. In the woods somewhere. yeah I wonder what private schools are required to provide for their students. Because public schools, you have to provide busing within a certain distance from the school. But I don't know about private schools.
00:29:01
Speaker
I mean, and honestly, like all the reasons that they said these are not new concepts in the world of psych, like spelling becomes to mind, like the rigidity of that lifestyle and like the pressure on the kids, like those are all bad things. As much as we love these two kids and like right how um how self-possessed they are, not every kid would thrive in that environment. Correct.
00:29:27
Speaker
yeah i think I think there are certain circumstances in which it makes sense. like If you had a musical prodigy for a child who just loves music, that's all they want to do every day of their life, and they know they want to go into music, like Okay, fine. You can send them- Very Francesca Bridgerton. There you go. But if you have a kid who's just a kid, like sending them to a private school could be, and not to say that that's like the wrong decision necessarily, because I do know sometimes there are other circumstances, like what are the public schools like in your area? How are they funded? um What kind of resources do they have? And and so on and so forth. but
00:30:14
Speaker
In certain cases, selecting a private school over a public school is not always the best choice for for your child. Yeah. And as as much as we do love our two kind of kid protagonists of that episode, they they do have a haughtiness about them. Like they think they're above everybody, yeah which ah definitely a danger of private school. Oh, definitely. Just that feeling. I mean, even when Gus, when they do get into the school,
00:30:42
Speaker
which we can go back to how that goes down. but um And Gus starts to get to talk to people, and like he runs into the faculty member who interviewed him. And the guy's like, oh, someone, he was probably doing these great things. And Gus very shamefully has to tell him, like oh, he's just in pharmaceuticals. Which I wrote down, too. It's like so interesting that everyone's kind of sticks their nose up. Yeah, it's such a weird, well, and just that they would poo poo anything that he ended up doing. Like why is that the total value of his existence? I mean, yeah obviously, you know, we know a lot about Gus and
00:31:22
Speaker
He is great and doing great things, but it's just like such an interesting like view of the world that these people in this school have. I bet it's ah but it's easy to have that mindset when you're around people that are all doing, we'll say, quote unquote, stereotypical high ranking things. you know I feel like when people talk about successful careers, they talk about like doctors or engineers or you know whatever. And things outside of that, people tend to think are not as viable of career options. um However, one can do nearly anything and make money.
00:32:05
Speaker
And in a life where, you know, it's relatively relatively short when we consider, you know, all things. I am of the belief. Every child should just do what makes them happy. They'll they'll find a way in the world.
00:32:19
Speaker
Yeah. know And like everybody needs balance, which I feel like are, and this is kind of, again, 2007 world, but I feel like our generation or like Gen Z a little younger than us, like, yeah is kind of more, like thinks more that way, like is very interested in, I don't know, understanding that they are not.
00:32:39
Speaker
They don't exist to be productive, you know? Yeah. Yes. Which I feel like Gus, he has, I mean, he obviously does have like such ambition for like prestige and stuff. Like they talk about this school as like a fast track to the Ivy's and blah, blah, blah. Like always traditionally prestigious things and he like feels like he was deprived of those things, which he was, but it's also like, I mean, we've talked about how the show to us is about like kind of finding that balance between like the grown up self in you and the child's self. And like Gus would have never been able to so strike that balance had he ended up in this environment.
00:33:18
Speaker
Correct. and And I think that balance is so necessary. Like if you're just going to be this very, I'm not saying all adults are like rigid or or whatever, but if you're going to be this just like very intense kind of, I'm always going to do things this particular way because other people have told me that it's the way to do it. We don't, we don't.
00:33:42
Speaker
function like that. yeah just not That's like not natural for human beings. like We all have different ideas about the world. We all have different things that make us happy. like There's no one way of, quote unquote, living a life and being successful. So I think ultimately it was probably better for Gus to not end up Absolutely, I think it was. Had he ended up at the think tank or whatever that guy said, he never would have had time for Psych. Yeah, very true. Sean has said that this is their dream. It's not just Sean's dream. They have been dreaming about this since they were kids.
00:34:21
Speaker
so like Yeah. I mean, it is funny because it's like you're saying, like a what would have been thing and Gus references sliding doors, which I think we will watch. We will have to watch for the Jules finds out episode. Oh, yeah.
00:34:37
Speaker
um but No. that's That is like looking at a key decision point in your life and seeing two different ways that it could have gone. And I hope ultimately with some distance that Gus recognizes that. Yeah, I'm sure he will. better I'm sure he's just feeling hurt yeah at this point and a little betrayed by his parents. ah Fair enough. Yeah. ah Well, and also, you know,
00:35:04
Speaker
I'm sure too, you know we all have, I'm sure instances with our parents when they made decisions for us that didn't feel like the accurate decision from our perspective. However, it is important to at times remember that our parents do typically have our best interests at heart and they are just making the decision that they think will be best for us in law the long run. So hopefully, yeah, he is able to to see that, to parse that out yeah over time.
00:35:34
Speaker
Yeah. No Gus. I know. Poor Gus. He deals with a lot. He does. I'm not around this show. He... I don't know that we see it. We're gonna have to... Another thing for us to watch, but he must have some trust issues.
00:35:50
Speaker
I feel like he has to.
Gus and Sean: Equal Partners in Detective Work
00:35:52
Speaker
but Oh, I guess we do see it specifically with Sean, like I'm thinking Nightmare on State Street, like that is about. Oh, yeah. So now that I say that, yeah, we do see it. Exactly. um But gosh, like everybody's screwing him over. Yeah. ah And not telling him, like, I think it's one thing that they made this decision, but also he was not a part of it in any way.
00:36:11
Speaker
Yeah. He didn't even know. like They let him do that whole admissions process. They let him interview and blah, blah, blah. like They would have had to be part of that. And then they took him away from him without telling him. And made him think he got rejected. I was going to say, you would think that they would have done like their research beforehand about the drive before allowing him to. They were stuck on the drive. Yeah. Or like, you know what I mean? Doing the research about the the possible impacts of this on him beforehand. Yeah. Before letting him go through this whole process. like what Also, now I'm thinking about Gus's parents because we do meet them later and we get yes some like background and like on them and they' their ways. And I'm thinking of when Gus's dad gets arrested from murder. um In that episode, that like a big part of their parenting is that they baby the kids. And like they do not, especially Gus, like they just don't think he can take care of himself. like They're like, oh, good for you. like
00:37:11
Speaker
So maybe it was kind of like that. Like he would, I mean, he was a child then, but like kind of that, that, I don't know, they seem to think that they need to make decisions for Gus. He is not capable of making such decisions or taking on that kind of those kinds of thoughts. But it is interesting that they would let him feel rejected. Yeah. Like it's quite a, quite the choice. Mm hmm.
00:37:37
Speaker
Maybe they thought it would be character building or something. Yeah. Yeah. He needed a little, he needed to be knocked down a peg. Yeah. Not that he was a very like hottie. No, by any means, but it was 10, right? Yeah. 10 is what? what on the page To like even have but an attitude like that. Like, yeah. And we know he's just running around with Sean. So like it doesn't need to have that kind of all people thing, which I also want to talk about.
00:38:07
Speaker
with mener So that, canonically, Gus is near genius. Oh, yes. We consider Sean also yes my genius. So I feel like that really solidifies the fact that Gus is just as much of a yeah participant a here in the detective agency.
00:38:29
Speaker
as Sean, which I think is kind of a fun, like, because we do know he is successful. He has a job. He like yeah he has like a very, even though it's not as prestigious as he wanted, a very socially acceptable, successful life. Yeah. And Sean doesn't at all. And I don't know, this really shows that Gus is I feel like I'm getting away from my point, but like, I think Gus is just like really smart. I get what you're saying. Yeah, I think it's easy when watching the show where, although we have a bunch of main characters, Sean is really the crux of the show. I think it's really easy to say that Sean is smarter, more intelligent, more quick-witted than everybody else because it kind of centers on him. And it's easy, especially because Gus so many times is relegated to the sidekick to assume that Gus is not at the same level as Sean.
00:39:23
Speaker
However, I think the point that you're getting at, and correct me if I'm wrong, is that he really is. They really are partners. at the end of the day. Yeah. Yeah. And I think, too, Gus, we know he's smart. He has a lot of knowledge. He has a lot of just facts in his head. He has a lot of interests. Yeah, a lot of interests. And we know he's done well for himself. But this really shows that he's on another level. Yeah. And in terms of a thinker, too, because to succeed in an academic environment like that, it does take a lot of just
00:39:59
Speaker
Study and memorization. Yeah, but also like you have to be able to solve problems and like all that kind of stuff Yeah, I mean we we do have that moment where they ask the kids like, you know, if you're so smart, why don't you and you're like we have midterms Such a high school but but um Yeah, so he is like, you know, he is very ah elite too in terms of intelligence but also in a completely different way than Sean is and Yeah, I love that too, that we see like Sean be like, is calculus the one with the blocks and shapes? But like part part of Sean's thing too is, um and why do I feel like they may be references at some point in the episode, but part of Sean's thing is this like disarming
00:40:43
Speaker
this of, like, trying to make it seem as if he's not as smart as he actually is. Like, I'm sure Sean, to make that joke, to make the joke about calculus, one has to know that calculus is not the one with the blocks and shapes, you know? And then, you know, that's gonna land for Gus. Yeah. And seeing him succeed in chess, which is like a very, like, smart person. Very, very strategic. I mean, Sean probably could have gotten in a mite or two, but would have had it zero desire for that. so yeah yeah They're just like on a very even playing field intellectually. Which i mean makes sense as to why they're friends, but it also makes sense as to why maybe they don't have many other close friends. Oh yeah, that's very true. you know because
00:41:24
Speaker
if For example, I'm thinking our episode with Jimmy Nicholas. We have you know kind of a jerky guy, but at the end of the day, just a regular person, like definitely not on genius level or near genius level like Shawn and Gus. When we have him come into the situation, they're like making all their quips and stuff, and he has to like make fun of them in order to like kind of keep up, even when we see Trish. like Trish kind of looks at both of them and is like, it's kind of not my thing, you know what I mean?
00:41:54
Speaker
It almost, if we're keeping that in mind that Shawn and Gus are maybe kind of like a step above the rest, intelligence wise, it makes sense why they didn't have a huge group of people that they were they were close with or friends with and why maybe they did stick together.
00:42:09
Speaker
Because they just kind of got each other. Yeah, they do. They get each other. Yeah. I also love the line, just because we're going back to high school, when they were agreeing to take the case after they say in unison that we're taking the case, you want to take this case? I love the line where Gus goes, I was a king in high school. And Sean says, just because you carried a scepter does not make a king. I was in here. Oh my gosh. Nobody.
00:42:38
Speaker
I love Gus looking back on his life. Like he always seems, he's got some rose colored glasses. He does. Definitely. Definitely. I'm glad you went back to that moment. Wait, what were you going to say? Cause I was going to change the subject a little. yeah I was just going to say, it's all, I also think it's kind of fun that Sean's always there to like check him. Yeah. Yeah. Bring him back down to earth here. Yeah, exactly. Just a cute little detail is when, I don't know what Sean asked him, something about like a lizard or something. And the kids. Yeah. and The lizard is a lizard skin dry and bumpy. Oh yeah. Dry and cracked. I love it. It's very like mathletes or like some kind of intellectual competition. They like, what do you what do you call that? I forget. Um, but they like talk to each other and then they're like, it we believe that it is. I just love that moment.
00:43:29
Speaker
Yeah. And even to say like, they didn't pick a definitive yes or no, but based on our current knowledge, yeah is yeah very nerdy kid. yeah They had to like, probably from like a scientific like standpoint, they had, you know, they have a hypothesis, they have to have evidence. that It's just, but it can't be theory. I don't know. I don't remember all that stuff, but yeah. Very on brand for them.
00:43:58
Speaker
Wow, we've really been all over the place already and we're on the second scene of the episode now. Should we go talk about Jules and Lassie? Here we go next. Yes. So we get to the police station and Lassie's arm is still injured. Okay. I was wondering because I didn't notice it until the very last scene. I'm like, has it been there the whole time? Yes. Well, because remember last episode they like made reference to it, but we're like,
00:44:24
Speaker
We're not sure how to talk about it. Yeah, I remember that, but then like, yeah, I just like did not even see it until the last scene. I'm like, oh, it's still in a sling. No, yeah. So it was in a sling the whole time. I'm going to assume that there was probably an injury in real life that happened that couldn't be avoided. And so they just kind of wrote it in because they like make jokes about it in each episode.
00:44:49
Speaker
So like in this one, when they're in the interrogation room trying to intimidate the kids at one point, Lassie like pins buzz up against the wall and the kid goes, it's really not intimidating with your, you know, one arm. Oh yeah. Now that you say that. Yeah.
00:45:06
Speaker
That's a great team. Yeah, I feel like it's probably like an actual injury and it's just going to last as long as it took for this to heal. It'll be interesting to see how long yeah that takes. But so we're in the police station and it's Jules and Lassie's anniversary! Yeah, of course she's keeping track of that, but I love that it's on two levels. Like it's like, personally and also professionally, that means she needs to be lead on a case. Like, yeah, but yeah that's just a very Jules, like,
00:45:34
Speaker
thing, just having yeah that little dyad as our children would say. Yes. I thought it was really fun too throughout the episode. So yeah, Jules asks to be primary on a case. She says if Vic already approved it, last he has to give her a case. He ends up giving her the Meitner case, although we don't really know that's going to lead to Meitner and, you know, Coalesce with the boys' case quite yet. But he gives it to her rather because it seems pretty low stakes.
00:46:03
Speaker
It's fun throughout the entirety of this episode. Watching Lassie be this, ah you gotta always go to the front of the line, and then Jule's like, please, thank you.
00:46:14
Speaker
Yeah, the the the contrast is so good and classy trying to like impart wisdom to her. Rule number one. Yeah, yeah which feels like such a kind of procedural trope. like I don't know i don't know what come i mean what I know most is and NCIS where if you watch that at all, but Gibbs is also has a bunch of rules and all of the little, his agents under him, like know all the rules and like have to learn all the rules. And so like that, it felt like that. I mean, it could totally be a tip to that. That wouldn't make sense. Yeah. I think, and I feel like that is kind of like just a common, like, and in like the procedural, like those kinds of shows, there's always the rules and the lessons and yeah. yeah and But then the last one being like,
00:47:04
Speaker
forget all the rules and know that you're a good cop. like That also is scary. yeah Sweet. Yeah, it's cute. Troops. Yeah, it was a fun episode for them too as like a developing partnership. Yeah, for sure.
00:47:22
Speaker
Yeah. Like you get to see, I think by the end of it, this realization that Lassie does trust Juliet. It seemed like a little iffy there at the beginning. Again, giving her like this kind of meh case. And it seemed kind of iffy in the middle when he was like, you should give me the case because it's a murder. And there was an explosion. I never had an explosion.
00:47:45
Speaker
never had an like I know what were the other things he listed because they were ridiculous too. I don't think I wrote them down but he lists a bunch of other random things that he's had but I've never had an explosion. But he ultimately lets Jules keep it and then at the end yeah literally almost passes her the torch by giving her his handcuffs. Yeah. Even though he wants to come back. Yeah and he sucks though.
00:48:08
Speaker
Cause they really, that moment where he gives her the last rule and lets her use the handcuffs, like they really lay it on when the music swells and it's so nice. And then he's like, but i'm kind of meet but I those back. But yeah, that was funny. They do the exact same thing to McNabb.
00:48:26
Speaker
when McNab wants to leave the case and they're like, oh, they are going to do the pirate ones. And then it is like a different, it goes differently because McNab ends up being really cool, but like it's the same kind of thing. Like, oh, we need to take it back. yeah um um So I just think it's funny, like the kind of changing of the guard, like traditions, almost like.
00:48:50
Speaker
I mean, not really hazing, but that kind of idea of they pull rank on each other. Yeah. Well, I mean, I guess to some degree it does kind of make sense. I mean, maybe more for McNabb than for Jules, but I could get why right off the bat you wouldn't want to give someone a very complicated, involved case if they've never seen all the behind the scenes workings of it before. But Julia, it's been doing it for a year with Lassie.
00:49:16
Speaker
buzz Buzz didn't pass his detective's exam until like the end. So I could understand why they'd be like, here's an easy one for you, Buzzy. Like, yeah. But it is in the episode, definitely framed that like, oh, pirates, we want to play on pirates. Oh, absolutely. Oh, they're completely selfish. Yeah. Yeah. When Lassie goes through all those cases, I don't remember them all, but the way he describes this one is two kids complaining about their teacher. Yes.
00:49:44
Speaker
It's so funny because it does sound really silly, but like, I mean, the report is that there's going to be a murder. so Right. Did he not even read it, do you think? Maybe may not. me I mean, yeah, because he's probably like ah two teenagers, whatever. um Yeah. That's funny.
Humor and High School Investigation: Sean and Gus's Strategy
00:50:00
Speaker
and then and then when when he gives it to her, she's like, oh, do we have anything of lower priority I can work on? ah yeah And he says, there are no small cases, only small detectives. yes Which I feel like is a bit of a theme in the episode because that feels very Sean. Like Sean with the um the cheating case and now like with the kids. That is kind of his, that feels like his bit of his methodology. Like yeah sincerely that like, you know,
00:50:33
Speaker
i I mean, later we see it too. Like I'm thinking now of the, um, that kid who needs to get his Darth Vader figurine back. He just wants to help. Yeah. So the next thing is we go to school yeah and we have to figure out our cover and Sean and guys both have ideas. Of course.
00:50:56
Speaker
Sean wants to go undercover as a high school student because he is convinced he's beautiful and young. Which he knows is so funny. He's not in high school. Which who would want to be in high school? If you're at 30, you're like, thank God, I'm not in high school. I know, for real. But I wonder if high school would be different with the perspective of being a 30-year-old.
00:51:17
Speaker
In some ways, we'd never leave high school. That's fair. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I guess if you if you had a good high school experience, then you might want to go back. And I think maybe Shawn and Gus's experience was good because they had each other and they were always kind of goobers and they always kind of did what they wanted and and didn't really feel the pressure of outside forces, like you know peers and stuff. so maybe they really enjoyed their time at high school, but I feel like the large majority of people do not yeah not enjoy their time. Well, I am thinking that I feel like they romanticize a lot and maybe it's because they watch a lot of 80s movies. And so it's like that's what they, like they have superimposed that on their high school. Because thinking about like,
00:52:03
Speaker
You know, Sean's a rest, but he's 18, right? I think that's what we did her a meeting or something. Like he says... Just turned 18. So like that was high school, right? Or right at the end, right after. So clearly he's well into strife with Henry. yeah We know he had some, a lot of anxiety around dating, specifically with Abigail.
00:52:32
Speaker
So like he didn't fulfill like the romantic dreams he had for high school at the time. Couldn't see that through. And then I feel like Gus, I don't know. I mean, maybe Gus had a good time because he was like. Yeah. He was in the, he was like Pep guy. Yep. Voted most likely to succeed. Yeah. Yeah.
00:52:55
Speaker
No, no, I feel like high school is just kind of a weird, even if you enjoyed your time in high school, I feel like high school is just a very weird time. Absolutely. you know so hard transition yeah For high school absolutely free kids in general now, yeah you know, it's hard to be a kid.
00:53:14
Speaker
You know, obviously in very different ways than it is to be an adult. Like an adult, you have a lot of responsibilities, but as a kid, you're, you know, you're just trying to figure everything out and figure out who you are and who your friends are and who you want to be. And and your brain is changing like so much. So big. Yeah. Oh my gosh.
00:53:33
Speaker
Because, I mean, it is. Like, when you think about the span of time that you've been alive in comparison to the true thing that you're experiencing, like, you know, ah one big friendship blow up as a 12-year-old feels like the end of the world because and it might be the first big thing you're dealing with. And then as a 30-year-old, it's like, all right, I've dealt with three of these. People are crazy. We'll be fine. Move on, you know? yeah We haven't said what happened in the case, right? Like, oh, yeah, no, we're an hour into this. until Well, OK.
Murder Plot and Sean's High School Desires
00:54:10
Speaker
Maybe let me put it out there a little bit. Maybe we can get into it later, but I have to to say what I'm going to say. OK, so we had the two kids who said there was going to be a murder happen happening. It turns out there's like a blackmailing scheme. Yes. Of this this student who turns out to be like actually 30 and kind of a record. thaty We have to discuss that, too, because I have. Yeah, we'll get into it.
00:54:40
Speaker
high level um He had a record couldn't get into any of the good schools, but he's, you know, very smart. So he wanted a reset on his life. So he like, uh, took the identity of a deceased, uh, 15 year old and got into the Mitner school to like start over basically. So, um, he is a 30 year old man, like masquerading as 15 year old. And maybe that is, you know, he is trying to redo his life in a way. And so maybe like Sean.
00:55:11
Speaker
Maybe we see a little bit of that in Sean. of like if If high school was difficult for him, it's like he won. He sees this opportunity, however minor, to like relive the glory days or re-do them. Yeah. I mean, we could also argue that you know this joke was maybe him actually being a little bit of a psychic because that is what ends up happening.
00:55:40
Speaker
Ooh, I like that reading. you know Yeah, you're right. Someone is actually a 30-year-old dressed up as a 15-year-old masquerading throughout the school. so It's funny that the because we have said before that the show doesn't believe in psychics, but like we believe that Sean is a psychic. He's a witch. He is. Hello.
00:56:05
Speaker
Clearly. Or he just believes that that is so outlandish. It could never possibly happen. And even to be fair, like we see this guy, and I guess if you're not like looking too closely, and I'm sure what the culprit is betting on is that people aren't going to look too closely. like um I guess maybe you could be like, yeah, he's a teenager, but he does not really look like a teenager. like Yeah. Well, it's funny too, cause they all like just, I mean, Hollywood's kind of famous for casting like yes that's true as teenagers. So it's hard to know if like, is he like, does he not look like a teenager in a Hollywood way or in just like a general way? Yeah. I mean, I think just in comparison to the people that were, so I'm thinking of when they're in the lecture hall.
00:56:52
Speaker
Just in comparison to the other students that are in the lecture hall, he very clearly looks not like them. Yeah. Well, maybe that's why Han, Professor Han, maybe that's kind of why he catches on to it. Cause like, if you weren't. Yeah.
00:57:08
Speaker
There are kids who look older than they are sure. Oh, yeah, um and he in real life not in real real life, but as is Not his real life in the show. Yeah had always liked younger than he was like people always said that right so like That can be a thing. And so maybe if you weren't thinking about it, you wouldn't really question it But like knowing that he is 30. It's like, oh, yeah, he's 30 obviously, right? Um but Yeah, maybe maybe Han Yeah, suspicious. Well, so that that's the thing that I was thinking is just looking at them. Yeah, maybe he could pass for a kid. But as a teacher, like someone who has these kids in my class every day with me, who knows them as people, like, I feel like I would go
00:57:55
Speaker
Yeah, because the attitude that he has. Exactly. There's something more. Mm hmm. Exactly. Exactly. So i I bet that was probably it. He was probably like something here. Yeah, because we don't really know right how fun.
00:58:12
Speaker
found out No, they don't mention any of that, just that he's blackmailing him and that he's blackmailed before. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Before we like totally move off the scene of them like getting into the school. um So Sean wants to like infiltrate as undercover as a high school student. Yeah. I'm nervous, this is 21 Jump Street, but Gus is like, he's like, I already have our cover. Oh my God, I love it. Documentary called Tenuses in the mix. Tenuses.
00:58:42
Speaker
And I love, like, it's such a perfect delivery between, like, and like between the two of them of Sean Miller really, like, what, and then these like, geniuses, and like, uh-huh, and then Gus is like, in the mix. Like, he keeps saying it, it's so funny. Um, I just love it. Also, what a great name for a documentary about teen geniuses. Great. Yeah, Sean's like, geniuses, you just have that? Yes, in the mix.
00:59:10
Speaker
in the mix. It's so smart. and But then I love- They should make it. They should make it. But I love that then the actual teniuses are like, Jelax, we already have a cover for you. Yeah, they've already got this figured out. They would have solved the case if not permit for midterm. It's true. And they are going to be their special guest lecturers, where they're going to teach the show, or the show, that's us, to teach the to teach the class, uh, physics, all about the physics of psychics and paranormal levelings and all of that good stuff. So it is actually kind of fun to see Sean in that role. Yeah. Of like, kind of having to be serious,
00:59:55
Speaker
but also just like not caring at all that he needs to be serious. Yeah. In front of a bunch of kids. Yeah. And it was fun too to, to, I actually think it was really interesting that, you know, people in the past have been like, you're not really a psychic. And then he wins them over pretty quickly. But to see these kids be like, you're not a psychic, you're probably just hyper observe it. Here's a real actual test to see if you're psychic and pretty much have him on the ropes for a little while before he kicks them out of the room, which I was wondering, do we see the murderer?
01:00:25
Speaker
Yes, specifically the murderer. Do we think that just the kicking, like the essential like shaming of this child and kicking them out of the room made everyone go, I guess he's psychic. Or do we think they were just like, yeah, let's give him a shot because he didn't really prove anything to them. No.
01:00:43
Speaker
Well, he yeah, he kind of, because first, before the that kid, before the murderer kid starts, you know, antagonizing him, like the first kid that says, maybe you're just hyper observant. He, Sean observes that he has dandruff and therefore wears a white sweatshirt and then i like kind of puts him on the spot about that too. And that shuts him up. So he is kind of like attack.
01:01:10
Speaker
taking the individuals who are dismissing him. um But I do feel like he didn't prove he was a psychic and also becomes irrelevant because they want to know about dating. Fair enough. Yes. I don't think they even care. It's not actually a psychic. It's like you're going to tell us how to get dates with girls and kiss girls. Beautiful. Thank you.
01:01:34
Speaker
as a fair point because he doesn't he doesn't do anything to prove that he's a psychic yeah i mean until the end when he gets to nutshell in front of them all but even that i was like this kid adult murderer him from the jump he no he knows that he is not psychic in fact Because what? Unlike anyone else in the room, because Sean, when he first clocks him, he first identifies him, he tells him that he needs to like, shade. Stop trying to shade. He observes. He makes observations. Exactly. But he doesn't call him out as not being a kid. So of course. Well, we do see that happen other times too. um Oh, yeah. Like where they would, like somebody would incriminate themselves if they
01:02:23
Speaker
Right. Like try to out Sean. Correct. Like the guy. He knows. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah, you're right. He does make, and it's interesting that Sean, because it's almost like those are clearly observations, especially the combination skin one. Yes. Because it's like. Literally, I'm just looking at your face. What else? Yeah. Like what else would it be? Like, I mean, he had a vision that the guy felt bad about his skin or something. Yeah. Yeah. maybe And then the other one is, oh, wait until you can grow. Yeah. Like, yeah, it's very clearly not. Yeah. I guess maybe he like kind of proves himself to everyone other than Shockley and Godard when he pulls the mural thing out of Han. However.
01:03:16
Speaker
What I was wondering is do we actually think Han, no, right? He doesn't. Han has a cousin named Muriel because it wasn't Han on the phone. Well, does Sean say Muriel to Han because he does? Does he? Because he says he's like, you were on the phone with your cousin. Or he says Muriel. like one ah Muriel was mentioned, yes. Oh, that's interesting. Cousin Muriel, my cousin Muriel.
01:03:40
Speaker
Which I was like, that doesn't actually track if it was the other guy on the phone. Cause I felt like that was like a good moment. Well, I guess you're right. I wasn't thinking about chocolate and good art. Cause they would know even like, they would know that Sean has that information right to not trap him in write a confession. And it turns out to be a confession to something.
01:04:00
Speaker
party completely innocuous. yeah what we think yeah it doesn't actually have If he doesn't actually have a cousin Muriel, he's just pulling cousin Muriel out of the air instead of having to admit to the blackmail.
01:04:17
Speaker
Well, maybe, but we know that the phone call was the kid. The kid, right. But we know that they both know the name Muriel because, because of the this, right. Whatever it was called Muriel. Sounds like the town, wasn't it? Muriel was the town, also the juvenile hall where he was station situated place so i yeah so i'm like is does han also realize that shawn is not a psychic and maybe this is why he's so like kind of hostile well i feel like that's just his or is he just yeah also like him in the carpool is so funny oh my god the carpool is so funny
01:05:00
Speaker
over, like it just in general. yes so He also has that moment where ah Sean's like, he probably doesn't, like gym teacher who's driving the car probably doesn't remember where your house is because you, I sense you skipped carpool on Friday. And Han's like, that's amazing. I did. He just doesn't seem to care. I mean, Han's got a lot going on. So maybe he's just like not really worried. Like he's just not interested in what Sean's up to because he's just like, he's an angry guy.
01:05:30
Speaker
He's out of money. He's got a blackmailing scheme. right so he doesn't know that A lot on his plate. on is anyone of consequence like He doesn't yeah isn't know that he's a psychic detective. He just knows he's a psychic. so I'm sure he's Like, Oh yeah, cool i out presumably to be a guest lecturer, he would have to have some credentials thing like, or just, yeah, like something to back him up. Like if maybe there, is there a bio floating around of who Sean is? Oh, like for the kids to see. Yeah.
01:06:05
Speaker
I mean, could be. It's like, cause sometimes, you know, he's like, he's the head psychic of the Santa Barbara police, like i write cre you know? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, I think that would probably make sense if this was like an elective they had to sign up for to get the kids to go. But if it was like, you know, we're going to have the entire senior class come and listen to you talk and it's like, eh, talk about whatever you want.
01:06:35
Speaker
But, yeah, I mean, presumably people should know who he is. Yeah. And so, yeah, I wonder, and maybe that's also why the kid kid adult murderer, that's like his name now, um is so antagonistic with him is like he is threatened by his presence because he knows that he is affiliated with the police. Right. um Although he hasn't committed murder yet. He just plans to.
01:07:04
Speaker
yeah i'm crazy would he get in trouble though for stealing someone's identity probably it's fraud yeah is there prison frauding the the institution yeah also some form of identity theft i don't know how that works i don't know i did oh yeah hmm yeah i don't know but yeah so i'm sure it may just be fraud too no never tes but yeah i mean isisis ah thanks so I love that. that i love that where feciis is That is something Sean would say. Yeah, he would. you oh He would absolutely approve.
01:07:51
Speaker
Yeah, we had a bunch of like really fun little bits in here. The way they talked to the janitor and in Shango's spirit, your little pants are on fire. Did we run into Lassie and Jules? Did we skip that? Oh, we skipped that, yeah. Okay, let's go back to that because it's so fun.
01:08:08
Speaker
of So Sean and Gus are in like the admin office already doing something. Paperwork I'm assuming. Yeah. and anyway I see Jules come in because they're investigating the case. Well, Jules is leading the investigation. yeah And Sean and Gus see them. And so they drop them by the counter and just like shuffle down so that they can pop up right in front of them. I also love that in this moment, they introduced the killer.
01:08:37
Speaker
We don't hear him say anything. Yes, he's right there. And then he's just there. Yeah. And again, Shawn and Gus, just imagining them planning their bits on their drives or whatever they're doing, but they are like completely in sync, being like, oh, we heard a cop named Lassie died. That's so funny. And Tag him forth. And Lassie's like,
01:09:04
Speaker
lassie nine or whatever. lassie three was a police dog. I was like, it's just so remarkable how many things you had in common. Gus says that I feel like that was so like, like Gus is as much in this ribbing. It's so funny. You know that Sean like saw this in the newspaper and threw it to Gus and was like, Oh, that's so cool. Yeah. Did they talk about who was going to say what? I'm sure. Oh my gosh. It's so funny. Yeah. Okay. So then we, then we have the janitor, which is fun. And we get our, our fancy pin and this like old pin. They have to go to the lost and found, which I wrote out. Do you think 168 was the real count to eyeglasses in that box?
01:09:54
Speaker
Oh my goodness. I hope so. I feel like, cause I'm like, uh-huh, 168, but like probably it was. I bet. I bet you it's really good at those things that are like guests with many jelly beans in the jar. Oh, I bet. And I wonder if that's.
01:10:08
Speaker
Hmm. So I wonder if that's like math skill or if that's literally just his brain can like count all of the- Yeah, it's like spatial. I bet he's really good at geometry, even though he- Probably believe why he could make that joke. Probably aced geometry.
01:10:28
Speaker
And then we, I loved seeing in the, we go to the teacher's lounge to try and find out who could have lost the, the S X Y pin, which Gus says is not an S it's an integral sign, which tells you the area under a curve and calculus. You go to the teacher's lounge and I loved seeing Sean.
01:10:46
Speaker
Just again, give us one of those like remedial courses ah where he was like, not here. Yeah, there's no math teachers here. here and Because like, how do you know that? Goggles on the one guy means he's a science teacher, violin, hickey on the neck means orchestra teacher, gym clothes, gym teacher, but maybe he knows something. yeah Like they were trying to find just a normal person attach to talk to like that too. And that whole exchange is again, so funny. like So funny. It was a calculus joke. And then like,
01:11:16
Speaker
to get themselves in the carpool. Again, I just wonder like how they're so, I mean, they I mean, they have a shorthand. So it's like, they probably don't even have to plan, you know, cause it's like, they're just, they have a very yes and. They do. Thing with each other where it's like, they just accept a lot of the time. And then sometimes Gus will not accept, but, but when Sean says he, I think he parked on a sculpture. Was that what it was? Parked on a statue. A statue. And Gus is like, I can't see the tickets.
01:11:46
Speaker
It's so cool. and four gym teacher is just like looking at them this happening But just funny, like, such a ridiculous thing to say you're contesting a ticket to as if you didn't work on the statue. What do you mean?
01:12:03
Speaker
funny ridiculous man Yeah, so they get into the carpool, the gym teacher's carpool because Han is in it. too Yes, which is how the gym teacher knows him. Yes. And we get a very aggressive Han. Yeah, I'm just reliving that conversation of the school has a carpool, answered to our prayers. It is so ridiculous.
01:12:35
Speaker
Yeah. Oh, and before we even get to the carpool, then we have the lesson. um my did Oh, Yes. Don't show any fear. Don't split any infinitives. Don't dingle your participles. At least not in public. Yes. What a good line. Yes. And they get to fasci six. Oh my gosh. I am the ferryman and Gus is my ferry. So, so ridiculous. Also.
01:13:04
Speaker
And during this whole Sean trying to prove that he's a psychic bit and Han being there because Sean invited him. Sean mentioned something about Han being the target of something. And Han goes, I shop at Target. And for some reason that struck me as so strange. That Target. I didn't get that. Right? I was like, do you guys go to Target? Yeah, like outside of their world. Yeah. It really makes it.
01:13:33
Speaker
real in a way that is like yeah whi po yeah and maybe that's what it is because we've I mean we've discussed before how psych is situated in the real world, the real world minus the actor's other credits. Yes. But it's still very much situated in the real world. I guess just a name drop like Target. Yeah. And also, I mean, Target also feels very contemporary. Maybe that's part of it too. Maybe because that's it. Yeah. know in a way that like Because like the Home Depot, they went there too.
01:14:10
Speaker
but but bro Yeah. yeah much Either, but like this specifically, it's like Target, like. Well, I wonder, you know, I, we are probably not the people to ask about this. Cause in 2007, we were in like seventh grade, which who remembers when they were like 11, 12, you know, but was target like a big thing then, or was it still like, uh, you know what I mean? Still building itself up. I mean, I definitely remember going in high school, which would have been just a few years later. Yeah.
01:14:40
Speaker
Oh, yeah, I don't know. Yeah, because I feel like I have many memories of going to like a Home Depot or a Lowe's or, you know, something like that when I was a kid with my family, getting like ah plants or something or I don't know, light bulbs. But like Target, yeah, I feel like that that feels of a different time. Yeah, it does. Yeah, I totally feel that too.
01:15:06
Speaker
Yeah, so that I was like, target. And we also have a moment later, I mean, kind of just similar with just like the time element, but when they don't know the word barista. Oh my gosh, that was hysterical. What a time in the world when people, like everybody knows what a barista is now. Absolutely. Yeah, Gus, if you don't know the word, don't make it out.
Cultural References: Starbucks and Psychics
01:15:28
Speaker
Well, yeah. When does, um, when does Starbucks become like a big thing? I feel like I don't. Early 2000s. And I always, so you've got mail. seen You see, I think we actually watched it together. Probably that it's a favorite of mine, but 1998 and they go to Starbucks, like through that whole movie and it's like presented as this, like,
01:15:50
Speaker
cute coffee shop. That's how it feels. Like niche. Yeah. Like it feels like, but I mean, I don't know if that's just me like looking at it from the future or, but I think that was like, I think it was still new then. And that's why it feels like that. Yeah. Um, but it is kind of funny cause the movie is about like a big box store taking over all the little guys.
01:16:11
Speaker
which is basically Starbucks. But it feels in the movie like that is supposed to be like a cute little coffee shop. Oh, they're foreshadowing. ah honey So I feel like that was kind of around 2000, probably that Starbucks was really getting mainstream. Okay.
01:16:30
Speaker
And that was in New York City actually, so it could have even been a little later, you know, because like for it to really get into the suburbs and everything. Yes. Yes. That's true. But yeah, I feel you. It does. It feels almost anachronistic. Yeah, it does. Strange. That's okay. Now we know that Han shops at Target. There is a Target in Santa Barbara. yeah It is important to know.
01:16:53
Speaker
Okay, we mentioned paranormal evidence, but just that whole riff of like some people have more two cobs.
01:17:01
Speaker
He's so ridiculous, but I feel like it tracks. I feel like it somehow almost gives him more cred being so ridiculous. like When you think of like a psychic or a clairvoyant or like whatever, like I'm thinking um that one time we went to the psychic shop where like yeah or like the psychic um all the way down Bleecker Street, like right on that corner. Oh, got right on the corner. sidebar but as like a
01:17:35
Speaker
a bonus, we should go to a psychic and talk and have a reflection episode. I love that idea. Oh, we have to do that. We're doing that. We did go to one the night before graduation. Yes. So yeah, it would be good to do that again. Yeah. Oh my gosh. We have to do that. That'd be so much fun.
01:17:56
Speaker
But yeah, I feel like those kinds of people, it is very theatrical. It is very eccentric. It is very outlandish. like That is part of it. And Sean doesn't have like the weird get up or you the weird setup of the you know the psych office isn't very eccentric or bohemian or anything, but his eccentricity comes from how he gets the the information across and and the bits that he does. So I feel like somehow it makes it feel more authentic. Yeah, I feel that. Yeah. And he's so he comes off so sincere about it. Yeah. Yeah. And we also do have those moments where it's like he is still playing that character in private, which makes it feel like it's not a character or not just completely a character. Yeah. Like I do feel like
01:18:47
Speaker
The lessons we learn from the show about lying of like you have like part of it has to be true It's like you have to believe part of it. And so like it's like he does. Oh, yeah, and that really sells it here fully he, he completely commits to literally everything that runs through his head. Like in
Lassie's Personal Life and Jules's Assertiveness
01:19:06
Speaker
the dinosaur episode that we talked about, he didn't even really believe that it was a dinosaur. He was like, it was a really far swing. And somehow it's correct. Which and and we harp on this a lot. But like the whole intuition thing of like, his conscious mind doesn't have to believe yet. But it's like he allows that and yeah inner
01:19:25
Speaker
that intuition to just spout out his mouth, even if he hasn't himself come around to it yet, like from a conscious, in a conscious way. yeah but i mean yeah He's such a witch. It's like crazy. He's such a witch. So Jules and Lassie are still working the case now that they have, you know, gotten some info about the kids at the school. I did make a note. Who do we think Lassie is talking to about?
01:19:50
Speaker
having puppies. I feel like that was probably not in the script and they just had a moment of like, yeah what's, got what's he on the phone about? That's probably true. However, I would like to believe that it's his sister. Aww. Right. Love that.
01:20:08
Speaker
Cause I feel like that's something, especially with her, like when we start to see the dynamics between the two of them way later in the series. Um, he is very much like kid sister, sorry you know? So he's probably like, Oh yeah, the puppies and like, yeah, yes. All right. You know? Yeah. And they don't never mom like that.
01:20:29
Speaker
Yeah, true. Yeah, it's like, my other thought would be like his ex-wife, like maybe they had a dog, although that kind of seemed a little out of character for him to have had a dog. I don't know, he does take care of the plants. So maybe that's not true. But I feel like she wouldn't want to have this kind of conversation with him. Yeah.
01:20:47
Speaker
Yeah, especially where we are now. And it seemed like it was an extended conversation because Jules was like annoyed and tapping her nails. So I feel like the wife would be like, what should I do with the puppies? Done. Okay, goodbye. The ex-wife. Yeah. Yeah. No, I like that because we also never, we get one episode of his sister and I don't think we ever see her again. but yeah And never before and never after. Yeah, he holds his personal life pretty close to his chest. He does, even from us. Yeah, even from us. So yeah, I like to believe it's his sister. I like it.
01:21:26
Speaker
So Jules is annoyed by the fact that Lassie is not doing his work and is just on the phone, which fair enough. I mean, she's got a lot of work to get done and he's not doing anything. So she delegates some of the work for this case to Lassie because what she realizes is that they believe there's some form of um credible past murder that happened here because of what the boys heard on the phone call, which said that you know the person on the phone has killed before and he will kill again.
01:21:55
Speaker
So Jules has all of the missing persons cases or unsolved murder cases or whatever it is um from the last certain amount of time and asks Lassie to go through them with a fine tooth comb. And I love that at the end, Lassie goes, oh, Harry, you're drunk with power. And she goes, I know, isn't it great? And he's like a little proud. Absolutely. Absolutely.
01:22:21
Speaker
Well, especially because he's been like telling her to be essentially more assertive and she seems to not really want to be at least assertive in the way that he's assertive. So here she's given a little bit of that. So I'm sure he's like, you go, Kara. Good job. Yeah. And then, but then she still says, if it's not too much trouble. It's not too much trouble. Yeah.
Undercover Operations and Coffee Machine Twist
01:22:44
Speaker
And then we go back to the classroom when Sean is trying to explain the feeling of being a psychic, right? And he says the whole, it's like when you're on a date with a girl and then they ask, you know, what is, how do you get to date with a girl? And Gus is like, Oh, I'll do it. And Sean goes, yeah Gus, we don't want to hinder their psychosexual development. And I was like, see, he,
01:23:12
Speaker
He made that as a joke, like psychic sexual development, but that's an actual thing. yeah um basic I didn't even occur to me that it was a joke. You're right. I was like, that was really smart, Sean. yeah Yeah, he definitely plays a part, but he knows a lot. Yeah, absolutely. And I think, excuse me.
01:23:38
Speaker
Yeah, I definitely think he does it in like, in a disarming way. Cause if he really, if he just walked into a room and went, none of you are the person I need, goodbye. Like that's, it's like intimidating and kind of weird. So instead he plays dumb so that people kind of ignore him or second-guess him or underestimate him or whatever it might be. Give more information than they may be.
01:24:01
Speaker
Yeah, we realize they should. Yeah. Okay. So we didn't talk about a lot of this already, but they go to the files. Yes. We didn't talk about the case part. What does he find? What does oh Sean find? Yeah. So Sean finds that.
01:24:18
Speaker
Han got a student expelled, cheating. And part of that whole situation was that the student cheated and then accuses Han of blackmailing him to not say anything about the cheating. But when the student essentially says he's not going to give him any money, then it goes to the school and the school ends up siding with the teacher and the kids and the kid ends up getting expelled.
01:24:46
Speaker
So while Sean's doing that, Gus is in the back looking at his own file, which good on this school for keeping files from like 20 years ago. yeah And this is when Gus finds out that he he made it in and he is pretty devastated. I got in. Yeah, I got in. Yeah, it was a good a good delivery of that line too.
01:25:11
Speaker
I was very stunned. Yeah. And the the sliding doors reference that you mentioned before. So funny. Gus trying to say to Sean that they saw sliding doors together and Sean's like, I don't remember that. And Gus goes, sliding doors. It was me, you and Missy Isaacs. Say you don't remember it. And then Sean being like,
01:25:37
Speaker
calling it a Gwen's Palcho vehicle that I did not see. It is so funny that they're like in the midst of this like very traumatic reckoning that Gus is experiencing, but they is they dig into this tangent of sliding doors. It's so them and so funny. So them. They get through everything with comedy. That's how it works.
01:25:58
Speaker
And then they're in the car again. I love all car scenes in this show. yeah They're just so well done. ah hu They feel so real and I feel like in a lot of shows, for me at least, the car scene is always when I'm like, this is on a set. There's nothing in the background. Yeah, it always looks a little off and blurry. Yeah, no one's actually driving. But here you're like, okay, Gus is driving this car. We are going past actual house buildings. Yeah. And they're going to pick up on- It's a really funny scene. Funny scene, yeah, because Gus is like,
01:26:38
Speaker
What does he say? and Something about like you maybe get up early to go pick up a murderer or to drive a murderer to school or something like that. She's like, dude, it's your turn to drive the carpool. Yeah, you're the carpool. The way they just are all in.
01:26:54
Speaker
And their undercover work is so funny. And that's why today is murder day. Today is murder day. It's just so ridiculous.
Student Interrogation and Hacking Mystery Unfolds
01:27:04
Speaker
And lo and behold, who is murdered but Professor Han? Yeah, twist. Twist. He was killed by a coffee machine, I guess inadvertently killed by a coffee machine. That makes it sound like he was bashed on the head with a coffee machine. Oh, yeah. By an electrical failure. Well, the house burned down. me Yes, gas leak explosion triggered by the coffee pot turning on in the morning h causes the house to explode.
01:27:35
Speaker
However, we have gotten insider information that caught khan han Han takes an espresso every morning when he gets to work. So why would he have a drip coffee machine? o Which I understand the logic, but at the same time, I feel like coffee fanatics would have multiple cups of coffee in the morning. That's true. no But I mean, he ends up being... But it's enough.
01:28:01
Speaker
Yeah, it's enough. He ends up being right in the sense that it was sabotaged. Yeah. Well, and even Jules, like once they get to the, or no, here, she, like, Lassie's like, well, what do you want to do? Because it's your case, Jules is like, I don't buy this for a second. Those kids practically said this was going to happen. It's true. Yeah. I guess maybe that's more of the thing than anything else. It's just the circumstance is so suspicious.
01:28:26
Speaker
on murder day, a person from the, yeah, a person from the school, one of their teachers, like it's too many witnesses for it to not have been planned. And let me cut Tijuel's very aggressively interrogating. And then was we realized that she's practicing on the scene. And he is not impressed.
01:28:53
Speaker
That's lowercase mad. I need you to be uppercase mad. Yeah. Very Yeah. Was I quaking?
01:29:08
Speaker
Yeah. God. hes He's bananas, ah but then McNabb comes in. Like those strange kids are here. Yeah. Oh my gosh. Which I wonder if that's how people describe Sean and Gus when they were kids. Aww. Right? Cause they, they kind of fit this demographic of like super smart, like too smart for their own good, weird interests, like. Yeah, totally. I bet they don't. Yeah. There is a bit of a parallel there. Yeah.
01:29:40
Speaker
So Jules and Lassie try to interview, interrogate Shockley and Godard and it ends up going very poorly because the two of them end up riffing back and forth where they say, well, we were mentioning before, you two aren't really acquainted with game theory or prisoner's dilemma, are you? He means you two really don't get the whole good cop, bad cop, dyad. Are you guys like, together?
01:30:04
Speaker
No, she's way out of his league. I love that you wrote all this down. I wrote the whole thing down. But no ring at his age, I'm guessing divorce. Incredible. And Jules is so like oh my god enjoying this. She loves the whole thing. But so funny because it's almost like they took a play out of Sean's book. Like they've been watching him do this. True. You know, and he they just pick up on all these little things, you know, and that's kind of their skill set. Yeah, you already probably and so like to your point, like they are very Sean and Gus. Yeah, very scared right back. Absolutely not. Again, they have so much confidence coming from this in the environment that they do. They're like,
01:30:50
Speaker
don't really have a lot of deference for these authority figures in front of them at all. No, and they don't have to play the long game here, so they don't have to make it, like Sean has to make it seem like something out of ordinary. Yeah, true, yeah, they're just like calling it like they see it. No ring, so probably divorced. Like, God, like, okay.
01:31:09
Speaker
Yeah, and Lassie, it's really getting under his skin. Yeah. He cannot touch these kids. Yeah. Because he shouldn't at all, but they're miners too. And so he like ah shoves McNabb into the door and it's like, yeah. See this? Yeah. And then they get brought to Henry's house, our favorite locale. And I thought this was just so funny. The reason that they're going there, Gus says, is because we don't want anyone tracking the flag club. It's quite clever, I thought. Yeah, I mean. It varies back to an ancient computer purchased by a former cop. Yeah, it's so smart. Can you say wild goose chase? Yeah, I mean, I feel like if anyone was tracking this, they would be like, oh, shit.
01:32:01
Speaker
you know, like retired cop, how are they on to me? yeah Or if it was the police, well, I don't know. No, we're not going to bring that up. That's going to lead us down a wild goose chase. Can you say wild Wild goose chase, yes. Yeah. I do love that they're like in cahoots with the kids. Yes. That they're having them help them. Yes. And this is where all of my questions begin. Oh, OK.
01:32:31
Speaker
but we hour forty nine yep let's get into it were so we're on this We're on this computer. The kids hack a database. We don't know what database, but they hack a database and somehow, I guess we're looking up the word Muriel. That's what we're doing. And we're looking at some pictures because that's all that there is from Muriel Hall in 91, which we know Muriel Hall.
01:33:02
Speaker
from 91 because there was a file in Han's house. Oh, right. Yes. So we're looking up Muriel. So we've got a few pieces. Correct. But we don't really know how they all connect. Yes. So we're looking at Muriel Hall 91. And all we get is a bunch of pictures. And what we see in the pictures are the student, or is the student that Sean kicked out of class. However, here's my question.
01:33:28
Speaker
This student's name in the picture is Kurt Goodall. How is his name in this picture, Kurt Goodall, if he went to juvenile hall as his actual self, not as the identity that he stole currently to be a 15-year-old? Well, that might be a goof. Because Kurt Goodall, like the name Kurt Goodall is what
01:33:58
Speaker
like cracks the whole thing open. Yeah. Because then they go and they, Sean has Jules look up Kirk Goodall and finds that his family died in a car crash. Oh yeah. Five years ago. That's the fake name for sure. That's the fake name, right. So years ago, 15 years ago or whatever, for this kid when he went to juvie, he couldn't have been Kirk Goodall.
01:34:26
Speaker
because Kirk Goodall died just five years ago. Okay. I'm just checking the psych with you to see if there's anything that they have on it. Hmm. Don't see anything.
01:34:44
Speaker
Might be a goof. However, I don't, like, I don't know why they wouldn't have just, a if it wasn't a goof, which I'm sure it was, because it doesn't make sense any other way. Yeah.
01:34:55
Speaker
Making the name, his actual name, which was Jay Massendale, would have worked fine too because then they would have found that he was a felon anyway. Yeah, I mean i think it wasn't able to be like it should have been his real name because you're right to your point. That's because it was a picture from. Well, I don't where was the picture from? It was from Muriel Hall.
01:35:24
Speaker
It was like a picture taken inside the juvenile detention hall. Okay. That's what I was thinking. Maybe that's what I was like. Is it a picture from somewhere else? Because they only say, like the shock of it is that it's 15 years old and he's in the picture. So, but I don't know. Now I want to double check because now I'm feeling like I'm crazy. Oh, I'm pulling it off. I'm pulling it off. Oh, you are? Okay. Yeah. I had to sign in because I just to see it. I mean, I think what it may be is that Malone,
01:36:01
Speaker
exactly um ah He says Kurt Goodell.
01:36:09
Speaker
But so if he says it. But he knows the kid. Oh, is that what it is? That's our classmate, Kurt Goodell. Oh. Yeah. Okay, that makes way more sense.
01:36:25
Speaker
Yeah. Okay. And the URL that they're at is Muriel juvenile correctional.com slash some stuff. Um, login access granted slash records equals 1991. So they're, they've hacked into the records of this place. Okay. And looking at ninety one nation ninety one yeah, Yeah.
01:36:51
Speaker
So I think that's what it is. So one of the kids says, Kirk, yeah um that makes way more sense. Yes. Okay. So because I remember and free, Cause I remember all this was always like a very.
01:37:07
Speaker
confusing for the episode for me. Because I was like, how did we, why, I just assumed that they read it off of like the screen. Like, you know what I mean? It does kind of feel like that. You also don't, and like you looked at the screen so fast. Yes. And then he's like, Kirk Goodell, like, ah like it almost sounds like he's reading it, but she does make sense that he would know. Right. Like he's just saying like, Kirk, like more like that, you know? Yes.
01:37:32
Speaker
Yeah, maybe. Yes. I think that's exactly it. It sounded like Kirk Goodall, like reading the name and being like, what? Like that's a name? Instead of being like, Oh, it's Kirk. Yeah. Like I know i know him. google yeah Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Okay. So Goof free. I just read too far and got to the bottom of it. Like everything. Mm-hmm.
01:37:57
Speaker
And so, yes, we find out that Kirk Goodall, then Sean ends up going to the police station and tells Jules to look up Kirk Goodall and finds out that his family died in Muriel five years ago in a car crash. So we realize that the student at the school has stolen the identity of Kirk Goodall so that he can go back to high school and pretend to be a 15-year-old again. And when they confront him on this. He immediately runs, which Sean asks a great question. Why do they always run? I don't understand. Yeah. Why do they always run? Yeah. And he does that in front of everybody. We're back in the Cy6. I do love that he says the Cy6 too, Wrath of Caught. Wrath of Caught, yeah. Which I feel like if we do a spin off podcast, it has to be called that. I don't know what it would be about.
01:38:51
Speaker
but We can figure it out. Maybe just our side projects can be all part of the curriculum for Physi 6-2, The Wrath of God. Like our side, like watching our side-viewings. Oh, that's a good idea. I like that. The things that don't have to do with psych, other than the actors. Yes. And this is where I have a note. Has Lassie been in a sling the whole time?
01:39:13
Speaker
This is when I realized like 40 minutes in. Oh yeah, when he like pulls him in from the hallways, like we need the guy. I guess that's what it, yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I do love that in this, like when the nutshelling starts to go down and Sean and Lassie like pulls, not Sean and Lassie, Jules and Lassie come in, Lassie's got the guy who's running. Lassie is the only one who doesn't know what's going on.
01:39:39
Speaker
Which I like, because Jules gets her moment of being yeah like putting the dots together too. Yeah. And on her first case, I feel like that's only fair that she's the one who who gets to put it all together. Yeah. So so we put them we we put we put them in cuffs. Yeah. lappy I do love um when John Because he's teaching a class, so he's like yeah oh my gosh he like saying he was 15 in 1991 or so. I don't remember what he said, but he's like, how did that happen in class and our kids?
01:40:17
Speaker
are like, time travel. He's a clone of the original. And John's like, okay. Just save it for your online role play.
01:40:30
Speaker
So good. And then we so we kind of see how they are still like kids, you know, like they're very smart, but they're little kids too. Yeah, too buddy and I love to when um he gets taken out of the hall, Sean turns around, he's like, pencils down.
01:40:47
Speaker
to have your fun Yeah, and he starts out with me like, take there will be a test on this. He's like really enjoying. um Oh, absolutely. Playing this, this role of Professor Sean. Absolutely.
01:41:05
Speaker
And then we cut back to Henry's house and we're playing chess again. Yeah. And Sean, yeah, like you said at the beginning, it's kind of just recapping the case for Henry, letting him know what happened. His name was Jay Massendale. He stole a 15 year old's identity, so you get a do over.
01:41:28
Speaker
And Henry, yeah, makes that comment about like, wow, wish I could be 30 pretending to be a 15 year old, which sounds like slap a wig on you and you're spitting image of yourself when I was a kid. It was very fun. Yeah.
01:41:42
Speaker
And then Sean wins again. Yep. And he gets so he gets the car for a week. We also have some fun because Sean, they're playing for Sean, getting the car for a week. And then Henry says, if I win, you get tap you have to wash the car for the truck for a week. Am I out in it? Some cups washing the car continuously.
01:42:06
Speaker
and It be hard to have a conversation with Sean. like Any little blub, he's got you. Absolutely. He's very quick. I can can totally get why Henry at times is like, real relax. Okay. Our next one is, I just checked, Rabbi baby.
01:42:28
Speaker
Grab-a-bye, baby. That is when- The bank robbery? No, not bank robbery yet. It's the nanny ring. The nanny ring. Oh, good, good, good. Yes. Oh, the nanny ring. There's a bunch of really funny jokes in this one. Yeah. Clearly, we're a little bit- We yeah can't get into it yet. No. But um yeah.
01:42:56
Speaker
you Nice to see Vic. I feel like it's been a little while. Yeah, it has been a while since we've seen Vic. I mean, Fair, she has a a small one. We get to play with that a lot in the next episode. Yes. And who knows what the responsibilities of an interim chief are like. Yeah. Various, I'm sure.
01:43:17
Speaker
And yeah, I don't know this this is a I feel like I like this episode but I feel like it's another one of those that I'm like doesn't really stand out to me as like a Yes, you know agree. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's like fine. Yeah And I don't know why that is. I know I was like interrogating that with myself.
01:43:38
Speaker
earlier to which episode I was thinking of, but like some of the future ones where I'm just like, what is it about? Why some of them feel the way they do and also some yeah feel like they could be earlier. Yeah, but we'll get into it as we go, I guess.
01:43:55
Speaker
Yeah, I feel like the you know ones that we're not so excited about, it'll be interesting to, as we get some more of them, it'll be interesting to like compare them to one another to see if there's a through line. you know Yeah. Cause I'm trying to think of like things in this episode and like, I'm thinking of some really fun stuff. So I'm like, what is it? Cause like the, there's been some that are not my favorite and like there's very specific reasons. yeah Um, I don't know if this, I mean, I really like it, but like the meat is murder one, like just how cringe worthy that yeah that wrong nutshell is. Like, I feel like that makes it hard to watch. Like I don't know if there's something like that in this episode to see.
01:44:39
Speaker
Yeah, we'll have to we'll have to look. And if you would like to look along with us, you can join us back here next week for more Phys i6-101. Bye! Phys i6-101 would like to thank and credit the design efforts of Alavia Genesis, musical talents of Skane Music and Mikael Hunt, the production abilities of Kyle Dalton and Skiller Jensen, and of course the support of our friends and family. If you enjoyed the episode, make sure to rate and review, and join us back here next time for more Phys i6-101.