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Lost In The Formula - F1 (2025) and Rush (2013)
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Buckle up, this week we're diving into the world of F1 with the new Joseph Kosinksi film and Ron Howards Rush. One based in fact, the other more fiction. How does each hold up in the world of racing? Take a listen and find out!
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The Essence of Racing
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But what is so important about driving faster than anyone else? A lot of people go through life doing things badly. Racing is important to men who do it well. When you're racing, it's life. Anything that happens before or after is just waiting.
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Steve McQueen in 1971's movie Le Mans.
Podcast Introduction and Motor Racing Focus
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to Lost in the Frame. I am your host, Alex. I'm your host, Malik.
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I'm your host, Hachi. And today we will be discussing two ah motor racing movies, as I'm sure you could pick up. We will be comparing ah the new Brad Pitt movie f one to 2013's Rush.
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But before we do that, how are we doing today? I'm doing good. That was a great intro. Yeah, well done. I'm doing well as well. What inspired the quote besides the fact that we're doing this? Is that a quote you already had on hand and you knew it'd be perfect or yeah did you just stumble upon it? I've seen Lamar like two or three times. That movie rips and that's just such a banger quote.
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And whenever, ah so I'm going to preface this episode. I'm a massive, massive motorsports fan. um And whenever I'm talking to someone about why i like motorsports,
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mostly women, um they always ask, like, what is the point? And whenever they ask that, I always immediately think of that quote from Le Mans. um And it's just, I think it's so applicable because racing is so pointless, but it's just incredible to me.
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that Yeah, I think that's really interesting. i was like I'm excited for this episode because I know you're big into into motorsports, and I am one of those people that never got it, and I don't get it, but I watch these movies, and there's like a little there's a little something.
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like I don't know if it's fully there yet of me fully understanding like the joy and the thrill that people find getting into these sports, but maybe by the end of this episode, I'll have been converted.
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How about you, Tachi? I think I definitely echo that sentiment, but I think I'm, I'm already leaning a little more towards, I like it and I want it. So we'll see Well, you boys have given me an inch and for the rest of your life, I am going to try and take it that mile.
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Um, but before we get into the meat and potatoes of the episode, we have a few news stories that we would like to talk about. The first one, um like to say congratulations because I know she's listening. Scarlett Johansson is the highest grossing actor of all time.
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Long time friend of the pod, Scarlett Johansson. Congratulations. but we kind we love it We love and support you. um Say hi to Colin for me.
Hollywood Highlights: Actors and Adaptations
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they're ah The one thing about that list that I'd like to call out is I don't know if you saw like the top 10. um There's only one guy in the top 10 who had never been in a Marvel movie. You know who it was?
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Is it Tom Cruise? It's Tom Cruise. Okay. Do you have the top 10 list of the highest grossing actors? No. It's just all Marvel alum and Tom Cruise. Man.
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I mean, it it makes sense. Yeah. i don't i I don't think I can classify that as like bleak the way that we were talking in the 2025 episode. because i I don't think it's bleak. I mean, it's just aggregation. Those movies are are money printers for better or for worse. There's some people who are like...
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You know, they're they're on the top 10 and it's like o like, you're not really like a movie star, you know? i think Scarlett Johansson is firmly a movie star, though. I mean, she is she's a big name. She's a big draw. Like, everybody knows her.
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Yeah. um And she is she's a very wide range. The other groundbreaking piece of life news from an actor's life, Timothee Chalamet shaved his head.
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And on that note, today is a very special day. Dune 3 has begun filming. Nice. That's probably why he shaved his head, but um the ladies of Twitter are melting down.
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Have we seen any pictures? There is a picture, um and you can tell he's kind of trying to hide it, and it's just... You can really tell he cleaned up like the the back of his neck. um Really cleaned it up.
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On that note, Dune 3 will no longer be titled Dune Messiah. It is now Dune Part 3.
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Oh, I wonder if they're going to smush Messiah and Children of Dune into one movie. That's what people are are thinking. Because have you guys read Messiah? No. After I'm done with this book series I'm on right now, I think I'm going to pick Dune up.
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I just started reading Dune. Yeah, and I remember Tachi just started reading it too. i won't i won't talk I've only read dune and Dune Messiah, but um ill I'll put it this way. Messiah is a movie that...
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I don't know how they would adapt without adapting Children of Dune because it's very much... I liked Dune Messiah. ah Some people don't, but I did. um It's very much a bridge movie or a bridge book between Dune and Children of Dune.
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There's just like... it couldn't I don't think you could make an end to a trilogy with that book. Because in in the series, it's the ah second of the first three. I don't know if it's considered a trilogy because there's a bunch after, but a lot of people say they stop at Children of Dune. so Okay, that makes sense.
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I'm excited. and i'll I'll be seated no matter what. I didn't know that ah Greg, Greg Frazier isn't the cinematographer for Dune 3 this time around because he's busy with the Batman.
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I'm sure Denis will recover. I'm sure he will too. um I don't have the cinematographer's name up here that will be shooting Dune 3. One of them that I know they did shoot was La Land.
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Oh, we're going to be fine. we're gonna I think we're going be just We're going to be so fine. Yeah. What else we got here?
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Tachi, you had highlighted one, Indiana Jones. What does that mean? Who is that? There is a rumor speculating that Lucasfilms is going to reboot the franchise.
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And there are two actors that are um in the lead to play the lead. Those two are Chris Evans, and Glenn Powell.
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You're a liar. I'm not lying. Chris Evans? Just a rumor. We'll see. No.
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First Fast and Furious, and now Indiana Jones. I prefer like a C-lister, or or no-lister. Yeah. Is Indiana Jones going to be the next James Bond, or they're just going to be six different in indian in indies and...
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We're to wacky stuff. What is... let me see. Didn't anyone actually go see the Dial of Destiny? I did. It's a mistake.
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All right, movie passed. It was fine, but still. What is a franchise you guys foresee being rebooted in the near future? what want Give me one that is inevitable, that maybe you're not a fan of, like the Fast and Furious or Indiana Jones, and then give me a franchise that you would want to see rebooted.
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It's going to happen with of the Rings at some point, but I really, really don't want it to happen, but it will. You think so? I think so. Like you think they're going to remake the first three with today's technology?
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Eventually. Ooh. It's going to be soul crushing, but they will. Something that I don't want to see is, and I could see Disney doing it, especially with the way things have been going with this particular investment, a Star Wars reboot.
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Another one? Yeah. Like, I mean,
Animated Classics to Live-Action Debates
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four, five, and six starting over again. Like rebooting the Skywalker saga? Rebooting the Skywalker saga. I could see them doing that.
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Couldn't you? Couldn't you see them taking a stab at that? I think so. Just because like they've been kind of on the back burner for the last few years. And I think that'll bring enough money. like People would go watch that.
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That'd bring enough money for them to continue doing it. I'm not sure I could bring myself to do it. as As someone who spent their 4th of July at 1030 at night, we threw on Revenge of the Sith after we ran out of fireworks.
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I couldn't do it. I don't think I could go and like willingly support that. One through six, no matter what you have, like little problems you have, it's just, those movies are goaded. They don't need to be rebooted.
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They just don't. Yeah. Especially without George Lucas's vision. Because clearly Disney's is not good. Hmm. I think, and this is like a cold take for sure, but in the next 10 years, I think we're going to get a good chunk of like the 90s, early 2000s animated Disney movies.
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I think the library we have of those right now, we're going to have a library of live actions. Like Hercules, Mulan. There is a Mulan.
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Holy shit. And Lion King. Lion King. Little Mermaid. Oh my God. We're already there. Never mind. Give me an R-rated, two R-rated Atlantis and Treasure Planet. I'll be okay with it.
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I think those are a couple that I that i could be okay with. But you gotta lean into like... God, I'm going to sound so lame. They were grittier for a Disney movie. They were a little darker.
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Now, it's like the the SpongeBob roller coaster meme where it's like, look how dark they are. Yeah. I mean, objectively, i think they are probably a little more grim then your average like Disney animated movie, especially Atlantis. The opening scene is...
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I remember being pretty creeped out by Leviathan. um You could do something incredibly, an incredible sci-fi movie if you just for both of them, if you just kicked it up a bit.
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If you just turn the dial like to PG-13, oh, could be awesome. Those are the only two I think I'd be OK with.
Toy Movies and Nostalgia
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And even then, i would need like the right people attached to it.
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How about a live action Finding Nemo? What do we think about that?
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A live action Finding Nevo with um just people. Yeah. It's just like guy walking around New York City. Where's my son? What a live action toy story.
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That would go hard.
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i'm I'm in for it. Who would they cast as Sid?
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Margot Robbie.
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Flip it on the side. No, Margot Robbie's a shoo-in for Bo Peep. Oh, yeah. and That'd be a good choice, actually. Didn't we already get live-action Toy Story kind of with Barbie? In a way. thought you were going to say Toy Soldiers.
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Ooh. Ooh. I still love Toy Soldiers. speaking of Speaking of live-action toy movies, getting a live-action Hot Wheels.
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Uh... Okay. wonder how it will compare to Need for Speed. i Have you guys ever seen like the clips from like those animated Hot Wheels movies?
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No. Oh. You just gotta to look them up. it's it's It's crazy. It's like that like early 2000s really, really, really low budget animation. Like Bionicles movie to your and animation. Hey, don't talk shit about Bionicles.
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The Bionicles movies, they punch their weight. Those trailers went hard. I loved them. They went so hard. We should do an episode on the Bionicles movies. I think there's three of them. That would be a lot of fun. That would be a lot of fun. I remember like having my Bionicles and like watching the movie.
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I had my McDonald's. Remember they had like the Bionicles toys in the McDonald's? Oh my god. Simpler times. Dude. Truly. remember Did you ever play the video game?
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I don't remember if I did. The video game was incredible.
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I don't remember if I did. i would have to say like screenshots and maybe it would awaken something in me. I'll send you... we're getting Ladies and gentlemen, we are getting live feedback um from my roommate.
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ah You're hearing this now for the first time. ah He just texted, the Bionicles movie episode is the best idea you've had in months.
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I think we got to do it. I love that he's just listening. I think he just stands at the door and listens. and I can imagine him just... He feels a little left out. Did y'all ever play the video game Army of Two?
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No. no but I thought it looked really cool oh okay yeah i was I was counting on you for that one Tachi I feel like that'd be a you game but it was like it was a co-op game don't remember the story but it was a co-op game of just like two jacked like army operatives I think it was just sick it gave like Gears of War vibes but not aliens yeah yeah that one just jogged my memory too oh yeah we'll do a bionicle that would be funny What do we think a Hot Wheels movie is going to be?
Anticipation for Upcoming Movies
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Is it just... It could literally be anything. It could, like, yeah there's so many ways that they could take it. Like, it could just be like a soft reboot of Fast and Furious since Fast and Furious is ending, rebranded as Hot Wheels.
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It's either going to be really sick and or... yeah As long as it's not a need for speed.
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Need for Speed could have been good. But it wasn't. Almost all things could be great. That's very true. but don right and First Rotten Tomatoes scores are up for Superman based off of 55 reviews.
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Tachi, you took a guess the last episode. What was that guess? I said that critic score would be at least 80%.
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All right. You sticking to it? Lay it on me. 91% so far. Let's go! Pretty close. Not bad. Pretty close. That's great news. It comes out this week, doesn't it?
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It does. When are watching? Soon. Hopefully. My parents are coming to down this weekend, but after that I'm going to the theater. Yeah.
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I'll try to see it probably Friday. I'm cautiously optimistic. I'm probably overly optimistic. Yeah. Yeah. I think I just want it to be great.
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Well, I love that. I hope it is. Me too. Thanks. I hope it is. Any other news that you guys want to get to before we buckle our seatbelts in? Yeah, one one last thing one last thing I'd like to call out.
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um the ah The Thomas Crown Affair, they're remaking it for a third time. this is but I feel like every generation it's been remade. The first one was in like the 50s. The second one was in like the eighty s her seventies. don't know.
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And then the, the third iteration is now, um, they've announced three castings, uh, Lily Gladstone of, uh, killers of the flower moon, uh, fame, good choice. Love.
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She's my queen. She was robbed. Um, Michael B. Jordan, everybody's favorite. And then, uh, I'm going butcher her name. So I apologize. Cause I know she's listening.
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Uh, Danae Guerrero who played Michonne and walking dead. If you don't recognize the name. Oh, okay. Okay. yeah what is this yeah it's about it's a movie about i and this is based on me skimming like the premise when i saw the casting uh the thomas crown affair i believe is about an art thief and a detective and they fall in love okay yeah i did okay i did see a post about this i just didn't know that it was uh a third iteration
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I wrote it in our notes that this is the third iteration of this movie. Cool. Did read the note? Well, I found out from the note is what I'm saying. Oh, okay. nice Nice backtrack there, buddy.
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This was the last piece of movie news I wanted to talk about, but I think I need to send you guys the picture. Okay.
Casting Changes and Biopics
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Let me, it says Cosmo Jarvis will no longer star in Christopher Nolan's The Odyssey due to scheduling conflicts.
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Logan Marshall Green will be taking over his role. And I don't know if you guys are familiar with these two actors, but they share a similar facial structure to each other and another pretty famous A-list actor. i don't know going be able to open that, Tachi.
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Cosmo Jarvis of Warfare fame? Cosmo Jarvis of Warfare fame, yes. I don't recognize either of their names. The face looks familiar. So they both look like Tom Hardy.
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So one of them couldn't film for scheduling conflicts. So Christopher Nolan went to the other Tom Hardy lookalike. I'm assuming he couldn't get Tom Hardy originally. He knows what he wants. Cosmo dropped.
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Went to Logan Marshall Green. So it worked out. Do you know what Cosmo Jarvis dropped out for, apparently? What? And this is um this according to Grok.
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I hate Grok. Hate Grok. Grok, can you tell me this in ah in a cowboy accent? Grok, what is this? I'm going to get Grok, what is this tattooed on me?
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According to Grok, Cosmo Jarvis dropped out for biopic called Young Stalin. Cool. About Joseph Stalin. Cool. Begins filming in Tbilisi, Georgia.
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The country, not the state. ah Okay. I didn't know what you were trying to say. I'm trying to say Tbilisi. Tbilisi? I don't know how to pronounce it. It's one of those things. It's like i know how to spell. I know exactly like where it is and like what it is.
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Yeah. This is the first time I think I've ever had to say it in my whole life. I do that when I'm reading. Sometimes I'll see a word and it sounds perfect in my head. And I'm like, say it out loud. And I'm like, get it.
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ah it And it just doesn't come out. Yeah. So I feel you.
Main Topic Introduction: F1 and Rush
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That wraps up the movie news. Are we, uh, we ready to to, start our engines?
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Yes. we are. Um, who's, uh, leading us in into F1. I shall. So F1 directed by Joseph Kaczynski, who also directed Topkin Maverick and Tron Legacy.
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Synopsis reads, racing legend Sonny Hayes is coaxed out of retirement to lead a struggling Formula One team and mentor a young hotshot driver while chasing one more chance at glory. Starring Brad Pitt, Damson Idris, Javier Bardem, and Kerry Condon.
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We saw this together last night. There, I think... I don't know if we'll bring it up a lot, but I'll get it out of the way now. I feel there's going to be comparisons to Top Gun Maverick.
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Not only because Joseph Kaczynski, but pretty much like like a good chunk of the cast and crew, like producers, cinematographer. Did Hans Zimmer do the score for Top Gun Maverick?
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Yep. Composer, director, writers. So we got the Top Gun Maverick team, and they came they came to f one Alex, I know you probably have a close relationship with F1.
Exploring Formula One Racing
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Tachi, have you ever dabbled? Do you know anything about this world? Are we both completely blank slates? I am as green as can be.
00:21:12
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Okay. I am too. Alex, do you want to tell us a little bit about F1 and your relationship with it? and Where do I start?
00:21:25
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My relationship... Okay, i don't even... I guess you'll describe F1. Yeah, just, yeah, describe F1. So F1 is an open wheel ah formula racing series. What is open wheel?
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you know you have a car and the wheels are in wheel wells? Yeah, sure. ah So basically an open wheel race car is like a purposely designed chassis and the wheels are connected to suspension arms that are outside the frame of the car.
00:21:55
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So instead of under, they're out. Yeah. got it So if you look at like an F1 car, like the wheels are sticking out there to the side, they're completely exposed. If you look at an Indy car, it's the same thing. That's also open wheel.
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um And then if you look at like a NASCAR, it looks like like a traditional car. if you look at like a Lamar, like hyper car, LMP2 car. those aren't open wheel as well. Um, that's probably the most layman's way I can describe it is the wheels are outside of the car. Um, but formula one is a formula series that is for open wheel race cars. Um, it is a global series. They race all around the world.
00:22:32
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Um, they have been, it's been going on. I think the world championship in this capacity has been going on since the fifties. Um, wow.
00:22:43
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And ah they've changed the cars, the specs, the time the sport has evolved to such an insane degree over the years. um F1 has become immensely popular, especially due to COVID and Netflix's drive to survive.
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ah So you have started to see kind of a revived interest, especially the United States, um because F1 wasn't really that big here for a while. You have started to see revived interest in the U.S. s We now have three Grand Prix's because they are trying to really just...
00:23:14
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Takeover our market from ah NASCAR and IndyCar. um But Formula one is the considered one of like the premier racing leagues in the world.
00:23:25
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I believe it is the most expensive to run for a season. i mean, those teams cost millions and millions and millions of dollars to run. like I think probably over a hundred for a whole season.
00:23:36
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um Those cars are specially developed for this style of racing. um Each team is given two drivers. um There's a really limited number of teams and um you know, it's just so it, formula one is a very, very engineering and design focused racing series. Yeah.
00:23:56
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And it's kind of the reason why it's not my favorite, um because I think a lot of it, especially in like real life F1, lot of it is the car. And that's not to like poo poo any of these drivers ability, because what they do is just absolutely incredible. They're top tier athletes.
00:24:10
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um And I true anyone who says they are not athletes, I will I will literally fight you. i I will throw hands. Things will get bloody. They are just incredible, incredible athletes.
00:24:21
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and um But what really makes F1 so unique and so special is the level of detail and engineering that goes into these cars for a tenth of a second, basically.
00:24:32
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I've been to an F1 race. I have gone to the USGP at Circuit the Americas in Austin. I had a great time. I feel like that is the reason i could see myself getting in into F1.
00:24:45
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Because it that was kind of the vibe that I got walking out of F1. The movie was... A lot of this was it's very reliant on the tech. Seems very tech heavy, very engineered focus.
00:24:58
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And not to say that it puts the driver in the backseat, but it's more it just seems more of a focused team effort when it comes to this. So I think that's kind of why this piques my interest to maybe get into it.
00:25:10
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I'm going to be completely honest. I thought F1 was like... new because i mean you're you're saying that like there's been kind of a resurgence of it in the last few years i had never heard of f1 until like 2021 2022 so i thought it was like a new of like fran like race franchise that was kind of coming to light and then i'm now finding out that it's been around for this long but like from the 2000s until covid i had never heard of f1 it was like specifically just nascar
00:25:40
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It wasn't ever really a big thing in America for a while because, and this is getting into some, some crazy lore, uh, like NASCAR obviously had a huge stranglehold over racing eyes in the U S but IndyCar did as well under the name cart.
00:25:58
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And I'm a huge IndyCar fan. That is my number one favorite racing series in the whole world. Um, and, For political reasons, IndyCar had some issues with sanctioning bodies and then they split up and then um They kind of lost like a lot of viewership.
00:26:19
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NASCAR has slowly been losing a lot of viewership over the years, and F1 is really starting to take a hold um in the the public mindset. and so IndyCar is making a resurgence. If you guys are going to check out racing, I would also strongly urge you to check out IndyCar because it's you know as fast as Formula One, basically, and it's just...
Crazy Facts from the 1976 F1 Season
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insane um it's crazy uh but um yeah it's really really started to become like like a thing in the u.s um like you know going back to the joke i made about you know talking to girls about racing earlier um the the thing i've noticed a lot over like the last four years is on dating apps you will see a lot of girls mention how they watch f1 but when i was in college like you bring up racing to a girl it was like like They didn't care, but now they do. And we love that.
00:27:18
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Oh yeah. Let's talk about the good of this movie. Tachi, what did you like? Hmm. What, what was, we'll start with this. What was your feeling coming out of the theater?
00:27:30
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and Initial, like your initial feeling. I felt like Ricky Bobby. I want to go fast.
00:27:39
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I really, I really enjoyed it. Um, how do I condense my thoughts? I guess, It was a lot more technical. like you were kind of alluding to earlier, um lot more technical than i anticipated.
00:27:52
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Cause I really only experienced just seeing NASCAR on TV and they're just going in a circle over and over. um Not, not really in a team aspect. It's just single drivers.
00:28:03
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At least that's, that was my interpretation. Yeah. um So there was a lot more strategy involved than I thought. but I thought it was really interesting to learn about that and leveraging like,
00:28:15
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yourself sacrificing yourself for the team's success um i don't know there there was a lot to learn a lot to i guess be exposed to since i was so new to this whole sport yeah um i thought i thought that was a really interesting part too and that's just us not knowing the rules of f1 is how they can work like as a team together like during during a race and so uh i feel you on that part Right.
00:28:46
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Cinematography was really interesting. Very similar to Maverick, like we touched on earlier. um A lot of just cameras strapped to the car. Yeah. It was a lot of different perspective shots. So that was neat.
00:28:59
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I thought the movie looked really good. Yeah. Very pretty to look at. We walked out and i don't know if you were in restroom, but I told Alex and Travis, but I'm like, this felt like a, this felt like ah a legacy sequel to a movie that doesn't exist.
00:29:14
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Like it felt like a Top Gun Maverick, but there's no Top Gun. So it was just like, I don't like I'm not sure if that necessarily is like a negative thing.
00:29:25
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I just thought it was kind of funny, but I think you have that feel like it feels like Sonny Hayes was a character like we should have had that we should know like some context to him.
00:29:36
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Yeah. And I think for me, I mean, i guess I'll just start with the bad. um i think that's something that that was a negative for me was not really caring all that much. Because I felt like I should.
00:29:53
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And i if there was like a previous movie made in the 80s or 90s, maybe that emotion would be there. But unfortunately, it just wasn't. But I thought the movie did look good.
00:30:04
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thought it had a really good score. I had fun with it. The score of the opening title sequence was so high. Oh my God. It was so good. Oh, I mean, we have to zoom out a little bit.
00:30:19
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Is Joseph Kaczynski the king of hype moments in Aura? He might be. That opening sequence... Because we have Maverick, F1, and Tron Legacy are all just...
00:30:31
Speaker
bangers like sure like the script might not be that good like in tron legacy's case like the movie kind of doesn't make sense oh my god is it does that movie just rip now i know a lot of that has to do with daft punk but he manages to uh to uh play off of the the foundation they made with the soundtrack and like some of those scenes go so hard they really do and this one like maverick obviously like we all love maverick we don't need to we've talked about like six times in the pod. don't need to discuss anymore. That movie's just hype.
00:31:02
Speaker
you disagree, mom and dad, uh, you guys lame. Um, but this one I think did a really good job with that as well. And so I think my good for this movie was, um, I think it did a really good job at pulling you into the tension of the season.
00:31:21
Speaker
Um, and the stakes of, um, of um ah Javier Bardem's character losing the team. yeah um And the last race at Yas Marina in Dubai, I thought was just epic.
00:31:38
Speaker
I was forget all the other like, who is Sonny Hayes? Why do I care? um Because I do agree with you, Malik. but Forget all of that for one moment. And it was that the last 20 minutes that movie.
00:31:50
Speaker
I have a gripe with that last scene, but I'll get to it later. Which last scene? Like the last last scene? The one in Mexico? The last race. Oh. It's like, it's I think it's a very small gripe.
00:32:03
Speaker
It was kind of just like a ah little nitpick. um But I just wanted to bring it up so that way you guys don't let me forget. Sure. wanted to see it now i Don't it. We don't have a structure on this prop podcast.
00:32:13
Speaker
Well, I want to sing like the movie's praises. And I think you made a lot of lot of really good points there. um I agree. Joseph can consist Kaczynski could be the king of like that or farming.
00:32:25
Speaker
I don't know how he does it. He like knows what the audience wants to see. know what mean? Yeah. And it doesn't feel like it doesn't feel cheap either. Like he knows how to make us just like ball up our fists and just go. Hell yeah.
00:32:40
Speaker
It's like grand, but not like overly grandiose. if you know what i mean? Yeah. i I think he just taps into the mind of like, like what would like a nine year old boy think is awesome.
00:32:54
Speaker
It's like cars going fast and fireworks. And it's like, I want to hear him in the writer's room.
00:33:02
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But the problem is especially, you know, this is a very obviously this is is a male centric. Cast for this podcast. I think we can all agree the stuff we thought was sick when we were like nine or ten.
00:33:14
Speaker
For the most part, we still probably think it's pretty sick now. a little kid. i love planes. When a fighter jet flies overhead. Just locked in. I'm so i'm so ready.
00:33:27
Speaker
To get a whole movie of that with Top Gun? Game changing. Fully agree. the ah The show of force and warfare? Oh. we were Yeah. ah Dame Sinidris.
00:33:39
Speaker
Great performance. I liked him a lot. I liked him a lot. I like this guy. who What else has he been in? Yeah. Who is this man? Let's check. Let's check. Damson Idris.
00:33:50
Speaker
One thing I did see, and I don't consider this like the like the goal that these actors need to be aiming for, but he is and talks to be Black Panther, potentially.
00:34:04
Speaker
I did see that rumor as well. That I've seen, so that could be something interesting. I would not be opposed I'd like that. Snowfall. I've heard Snowfall is a really good show.
00:34:15
Speaker
I think my brother is super into Snowfall. Shout out Nathan if you're listening. I know you do. I've heard good things too. FX, they went on a run. They really went on a run and Snowfall was part of that.
00:34:26
Speaker
Yeah. so he was in main character He was in a Black Mirror episode as well. Okay. And he was in crappy movie with Anthony Mackie. Which one? They co-starred together. Outside the Wire.
00:34:37
Speaker
Oh
00:34:40
Speaker
It was very poorly written. Did we talk about that last week? We did, yeah. We were just like, we that we don't think Anthony Mackie can lead a franchise. We're like, well, let's give him a chance. Did we bring up Outside the War? I can't remember. No, I think because we were just like, oh, let's bring up his last five movies. And I think that might have just been right outside of it. So it doesn't look like it gets better.
00:35:02
Speaker
Poor guy. it's a shame um Yeah, standout actor for this. I think definitely my favorite performance in this movie. um I thought he was excellent. and Some choices due to the writing, I'm not a big fan of, but kind of the the vibe he brought of the character overall, um I could say that he's my favorite performance. Towards the end of the movie, it kind of starts losing me, but that's not his fault. I think he's great.
00:35:29
Speaker
That was more in the writer's room, so I'm not going fault him for that, but I thought he was excellent in this movie. I think for me, my two favorite performances I think was a toss up between Javier Bardem and Carrie Condon.
00:35:44
Speaker
Carrie Condon was really good. I liked both of them. I think ah Javier did a great job as like the F1 like money personality. He kind of had that, you know, at swagger in his step, but he felt like a real you know character that you wanted to root for instead of like some out of touch guy.
00:36:03
Speaker
And Carrie just always kills it. yeah Yeah. She was just choosing her bag. Fantastic. It was really strange seeing, i guess, feeling like Brad Pitt is not my favorite actor out of the the main group.
00:36:19
Speaker
He had a lot of moments that kind of were like, what? Yeah. Yeah. There were there was one line kind of like middle end where it was when um what's his name came back from.
00:36:34
Speaker
Damien Idris's character came back from hospital. OK. And um Joshua. Yeah, Joshua Pierce. When he came back from hospital and they have that incident on the track and then in like the thing after um the the pit box after that um Brad Pitt's like chewing him out and then when he walks away he's like, oh God!
00:36:56
Speaker
Like, come on! and it's just like the flattest delivery. that like Is that when he like slams the bathroom door out of the anger? Yes. And I'm just like, yeah what?
00:37:07
Speaker
I could have done better than that. Um, Shea Wiggum is also in this, but only in the first five minutes, I was so stoked to see him. And then we never saw him again. I love Shea Wiggum. So the movie kind of lost me there for a second.
00:37:21
Speaker
I'm a Shea lever. Oh yeah. I like him. Yeah. He's like, he's like a guy that just pops up the movie and you go, hell yeah. What was his character? What did do? you do He was was the the manager of the first team.
00:37:35
Speaker
Yeah. The, the Porsche team at 24 hours Daytona. Got it. Yeah. He looked a little different. He looked like he had like some weight to his face and then and then the scruffy beard. So I didn't get him. I did not realize it was him until the opening credits rolled.
00:37:49
Speaker
Oh, damn. Yeah. Like they had like my I knew it was him, but I was like, I wasn't totally sure because he did look different. He did look different. Should we get to the bad? What didn't work for us? You started your bad. I want to hear this point that you teased us with.
00:38:04
Speaker
Okay, so i want like i I wanted to bring up Top Gun Maverick. I think kind of... Looking at it from the outside, i don't know if Top Gun Maverick has, it doesn't have the greatest script, but I think it has a stronger script just purely for the mission that that these people have to have to go through. And so I think the stakes are a little bit higher.
00:38:28
Speaker
The bombing Iran mission? Yeah, with the Pentagon mission. um With F1, I understand the stakes of losing the team. I, it just, I didn't fully care for it.
00:38:41
Speaker
didn't buy in. I didn't, yeah, I didn't fully buy in. And I know that this is an underdog tale and I'm not knocking like this type of movie. I just don't think this one necessarily worked for me, but just like the constant losing, like I was just, I was kind of just being like dragged through like a good chunk of this movie, if that makes sense.
00:39:04
Speaker
um The gripe that I wanted to bring up, when Brad Pitt is talking to Carrie Condon in I don't remember if this is in the bar, but they're having a conversation. and think it's outside of the hotel and she's asking like, why does he drive?
00:39:17
Speaker
And he doesn't give like the greatest performance in this, in this scene, but, uh, he's talking a little bit about just the feeling he gets behind the wheel. And there's this feeling that he's chasing.
00:39:30
Speaker
I call it the locked in feeling where he just feels like he's flying and he's like untouchable. He's like, I can't hear anything. It's silent. And like, nobody can touch me i was like okay cool we're totally gonna get that scene at like on the last race sure enough it happens and i kind of just wanted complete silence like in that 10 to 15 second stretch but the score was still kind of thumping in the background it was kind of just like this light base like basically like while he's in this flow state and i just think it would have been so effective just like complete silence followed by him crossing the finish line to the fireworks so that's exactly how i felt actually yeah so that was just a little grip i had like that i could feel like during the movie i was just like oh i wish they did this instead of because i didn't even know that he was in that flow state until the the engineer guy was like oh he's flying
00:40:26
Speaker
Yeah, and heat then they had to tell us. Yeah. was like, show us. Don't tell us. Show us. Show us and cut cut the music. Yeah. I thought that was strange.
00:40:38
Speaker
I didn't like that either. I'm glad you felt that too. ruined the tension. It did. So, and then, i don't know, just hor towards the end of it, ah Sonny saying goodbye to Kate, I thought was just, okay, let's let's get this over with.
00:40:56
Speaker
Didn't even make sense to me. Yeah, when when they had to share the kiss. And then I just thought it was really funny um him getting back into the limo and pulling the card out of his pocket and looking at it, but we don't see what the card was, his lucky whatever lucky card he puts in his pocket for that race.
00:41:10
Speaker
And he just smiles and puts it away like, i don't I didn't hate it. I just thought it was i thought it was i just thought it was silly. Yeah, i
00:41:21
Speaker
I really enjoyed the movie. But kind of like Sinners, when things are coming down to the wire, you have to execute to really elevate the the audience experience. And I just... yeah
00:41:39
Speaker
i I think I would have been okay with that awkward conversation between Brad Pitt and Cary Cotten and just the kind of strangeness of the ending as long as the end of the race was sick.
00:41:52
Speaker
Yeah. Like how the end of Top Gun Ravik was awesome. Yeah. But um yeah, I don't know. But i loved it. But I just like, oh, it could have been like...
00:42:05
Speaker
Small tweaks could have just made all the difference. Put it over the edge. Yeah. i I do kind of wish that their relationship wasn't fully like what we got. I kind of like just a little flirting back and forth that they had. Like, I just didn't believe their, their, the full scope of too thousand this potential relationship. Yeah.
00:42:24
Speaker
Very quick. a couple of things that I didn't like. And I had one where I actually literally just changed my mind as I was looking at something. um But the first was the problem with this movie is, and you kind of hit it out of it, like they just kept losing, losing and losing, but then they were like making this crazy progress.
00:42:42
Speaker
There were like two or three races in that movie that were way better than any F1 race of the last decade. Oh, yeah. um Especially the last one was just like.
00:42:56
Speaker
Crazy. Yeah. um But. well, like I love a good underdog story, but it would be so hard for them to do what they did in F1.
00:43:08
Speaker
to make that kind of progress that quickly. A lot of those back marker teams, they'll hop in to, um, like they they'll find themselves like a top five or something. It's like, Oh, like they just kind of like create, but like consistently do it is so, so hard for them because they just don't have the resources that like a Ferrari or a Mercedes or a Red Bull does.
00:43:30
Speaker
And I get this as a movie, so it's like very fantastical, but like, You know, I was just like one of those like, ah, like this wouldn't happen. I think this is. Yeah, I think this is one of those movies where like like I don't watch a movie for the realism.
00:43:44
Speaker
But when it's this rooted in realism, then a little bit of it has to be at least more on the side of believable. So I feel you. And the other thing and kind of on the this leads into my next thing. The realism that they did was. Yeah.
00:43:59
Speaker
you know They had a lot of the F1 drivers and F1 crew chiefs there. Total Wolf makes an appearance. Max Verstappen, Fernando Alonso, Charles Leclerc, Carlos Sainz gets mentioned like by name. Kevin Magnussen.
00:44:13
Speaker
All those guys are in there. They're kind of like F1 glub shittos. But... um I don't really think they like dived into them more than like as much as they should have. Like it really like you could tell that they were filming during F1 races, but like the F1 drivers, like the rest of them just did not feel like a part of the movie.
00:44:38
Speaker
Like there was a scene where Lewis Hamilton looks at Joshua and it looks like just footage they captured of Lewis, like getting ready for a race, staring off into space. Yeah. Like,
00:44:50
Speaker
I know that's what happened. Like, I know they really, they, I mean, I don't know. Like, it's just, it's easier to for them to get the shots during those races and like the pre-race of Lewis, you not interacting, but you could kind of feel that like this was tertiary. Like this was like tertiary to the world of F1. I get what you mean. It kind of took me out of it as well.
00:45:10
Speaker
A criticism that I had that I actually just went back up on, I want to touch touch on it because I mentioned this to you guys leaving the theater. ah The crash that Sonny Hayes experiences at the beginning of the movie where he is the car rips apart and he's laying on the track is a real accident.
00:45:30
Speaker
That really happened in Formula One in the 90s. ah Martin Donnelly was the guy who... um you know, was involved in that accident. He was racing with Ayrton Senna um and he crashed and his car ripped apart and he was laying on the track.
00:45:49
Speaker
um For this movie, they superimposed Brad Pitt's helmet over Martin Donnelly's helmet. um And it's the same footage otherwise. I thought that was kind of icky.
00:46:02
Speaker
However, if you didn't know, Martin Donnelly survived that accident. And he gave permission for them to do that for this movie. And he was on set and he loved being a part of it.
00:46:13
Speaker
Okay. Yeah. And so I'm going to have to walk back that criticism I made because I thought it was in poor taste. But apparently Lewis Hamilton is an article in the BBC about Lewis Hamilton calling up Martin Donnelly and saying like, hey, you know, we yeah you know, we want your permission to do this. This is kind of our thought process. And we'd love for you to come on set um and and kind of you know help us do this.
00:46:35
Speaker
And um he did. Now, he didn't he never made it back to F1. He certainly tried to. But I mean, he is alive today and he's you know a very happy man.
00:46:46
Speaker
um It's just one of the gnarliest accidents in F1 that didn't result in a fatality because it's just like the grimmest footage. um that makes the world of a difference that he that they one got his permission and two was involved with the process yeah plenty of movies that have done something similar that don't take that route and then it's just gross yeah um And, you know, like, that's just, you know, um' i'm I'm glad they, I'm glad they did that. um
00:47:21
Speaker
You know, and I'm glad that he kind of was, that Donnelly was kind of able to tell his story as well. Cause it, I mean, they, ah they, they show that accident in the documentary Senna, which is if you guys want to like, you know learn a little bit more about motorsports, that is a great place to start. That is a fantastic documentary.
00:47:37
Speaker
How do you spell it? um What? How you spell it? S E N N A. Okay. And it's, ah they show that in the documentary and I remember watching it when i was in high school and I was just like, jaw hit the floor.
00:47:50
Speaker
um Cause it's just, it's so shocking to see it. You know, I've been around motorsports a lot and I've seen a lot of, you know, fatal crashes. But none were, I think as just, you know, like a lot of them are,
00:48:10
Speaker
you'll see a car fly into like the fence or the wall and explode and just like just massive fireball and parts flying everywhere. um and you hear like people tell the stories about like what happened. Um, but every so often there's one that kind of reminds you like there's a human being in the car too. And that was one of them.
00:48:28
Speaker
Yeah. Cause the focus of the camera wasn't the car. It was, know Martin Donnelly laying on the track and he's curled up like he's like oh my god that guy's dead and it's incredible that he lived but that was a criticism of mine coming out the theater i wanted to address it um because it really made me change my mind about it I'm really happy that you know Lewis Hamilton who was the one who brokered the introduction between Donnelly and the team i'm I'm really glad they decided to do that so I mean huge kudos and respect to the the crew for doing that
00:49:02
Speaker
For sure. Speaking of crashes, the Joshua Pierce crash made my jaw drop. That one's based on a real one as well. Oh, really? Wow. Remain Grose John in, oh, what year was that? 2021?
00:49:17
Speaker
He did burn his hands. Um... You look up the video. it wasn't It wasn't at Monza like it was in the movie, ah but a very similar crash where he was trapped in a burning car and he yeah burned his hands as they they were trying to get him out.
00:49:30
Speaker
That's crazy. But it was very draw. They did a great job with that one too.
00:49:37
Speaker
Yeah, i I really like the movie. um I just...
00:49:45
Speaker
Yeah, just small things that needed to be tweaked, but ultimately still really fun to watch. I just, I didn't love the ending. Yeah. I don't even know how I feel about the outcome of the final race.
00:50:01
Speaker
I don't think I like it. Actually, I know I don't. What do you mean? I didn't like it. I don't, I don't think you should have won.
00:50:10
Speaker
Interesting. I think he should have finished, but I don't think he should have won because so many times throughout the movie, he just needed to finish the race because he is so reckless.
00:50:21
Speaker
Yeah. It was like a consistent theme of him being too reckless to finish a race. and Sounds a little mavericky. And even in the pit, they're like, you just need to finish, like just get across the line.
00:50:35
Speaker
um i think Joshua should have won. Spoiler alert. I could agree with you there. um I wish we got more of like the engineering aspects of it.
00:50:48
Speaker
I think that could have been really interesting and kind of put Sonny's story not so front and center. So make a different movie. F1, 2.
00:51:00
Speaker
2F2, 1.
00:51:03
Speaker
two f two one um You guys want to talk about your favorite moments? Are you ready for a rating? Or any final thoughts? I think we should do the rating at the end. We should compare it to to Rush.
00:51:18
Speaker
Okay. You want to get into Rush? Let's get into Rush. um I'll introduce this one. So Rush is 2013 movie directed by Ron Howard.
00:51:31
Speaker
And this movie follows the um the beginning of the careers of two racing drivers, James Hunt and Niki Lauda, and culminating on the dramatic 1976 Formula One World Championship season.
00:51:45
Speaker
um This is based on a true story. ah James Hunt and Nicky Lauda are two real race car drivers. They did race in Formula One and they were rivals in the 1976 World Championship.
00:51:58
Speaker
um This movie is... ah yeah Like i said, it's been out for a while. It stars Chris Hemsworth as James Hunt, Daniel Pruz as Nicky Lauda, ah Natalie Dormer was in it, um Olivia Wilde, and yeah, like I said, Ron Howard directed it.
00:52:15
Speaker
I'll pass to you guys. What do you guys think of this one? I have seen this movie like four or five times, so I'll pass to because I believe was both your first time watching it. It was, i i have a memory of seeing this poster, like this poster board in theaters, like specifically with with Chris Hemsworth being all hunk of a man. It's beautiful.
00:52:37
Speaker
Yeah. And i was like, oh, I need to watch that. And then I'd never, never got to. So 12 years later, here we are. I just got done watching this before. um I love this. This is like,
00:52:48
Speaker
this is my kind of movie. Like this is, was very engaging. Obviously it's a true story. We're gonna talk ah a lot about um kind of comparing this to f one fact versus fiction, but Chris Hemsworth I thought had a great performance, Daniel Brewer as well.
00:53:05
Speaker
It made me interested to see What did you think Tashi?
00:53:12
Speaker
and then kind of just be on that for the following days just wanting to know the actual story and watching interviews and clips and everything then that movie made a mark on me and it did its job and that's already happening with this one i really enjoyed this one but you think tashi I really enjoyed it too.
00:53:32
Speaker
um Unfortunately, i started it last night at like 1230 probably. So some parts of the first half are a little fuzzy, but um ultimately really enjoyed it.
00:53:46
Speaker
It was a much different take on F1 racing. It felt a little more centered around their relationship than just kind of I don't know. F1 felt more like a little more showy. You know what mean?
00:54:00
Speaker
Yeah. Um, but rush felt a little more centered around the guys and the, the story and the the history of them. I feel like F1 wanted to be showy, but also wanted to have us like emotionally care about these characters and kind of do that all in one.
00:54:20
Speaker
And with these, like, even though F1 is two and a half hours, like that two and a half hours goes by pretty quick. um A lot of the scenes are pretty long ah races and we get very, very detailed shots of the cars and everything like that. And so I feel like F1 was kind of just flip-flopping between the two and couldn't really decide where this is, like you said, purely focused like on the relationship.
00:54:41
Speaker
If F1 and Rush had a baby, we got like We got something good. We got something amazing, spectacular. But I think Rush came pretty pretty damn close to it. So even though the racing scenes in Rush aren't as polished or detailed as F1, don't think that matters whatsoever because the story that we get from Rush is what makes this movie great.
00:55:10
Speaker
with the caveat of towards the end of the final race and rush when it i don't know if it's at the end or the beginning of the race i think it's the beginning actually seeing the the slow motion water the rain the water flying off the wheels that was beautiful oh there's a shot of like the people in the crowd with the umbrellas and just like their shadows and i was like oh yeah it got me hyped yeah ron howard really cooked with the cinematography. This one, uh, something underrated about this one that I kind of really picked up on this rewatch was the color grading. I thought it was spectacular.
00:55:46
Speaker
I didn't like it. I hated it. I loved it. It felt like, like it felt like a grainy, like 1976 newsreel or like a, like a documentary thing for everyone. Like I get what they were going for. It just felt so like,
00:56:03
Speaker
off blue and mustardy at the same time it was so strange to me i wish a that is a gripe i have i'm not a fan of the way this movie looks i think it's shot very well yes but i'm not a fan of how it looks same page but that's not that's not like a detractor it's not a major thing or anything like that but it opened i was just like oh all right that's how it's gonna be here we are
00:56:30
Speaker
I did like it though in that last race. Yeah. The last race was very, it was very moody. It was very dark and shadows were really heavy. And so I thought it worked for that, but a lot of this movie is during the day.
00:56:43
Speaker
And so I think the contrast was just like punched to 11 and I just, yeah, wasn't a huge fan of, of that aspect of it, but doesn't take away from the, the watch experience whatsoever.
00:56:57
Speaker
But I'm glad you enjoy it, Alex.
00:57:02
Speaker
Do you guys want to hear my Rush story? Yes. um So my dad had not been to the movie theaters in like 20 years. And this movie was r And when it came out, we had to go see it like me and my friends. He was going to take us and. um He's like, fine, I'll break it just for this one, like just for you guys.
00:57:22
Speaker
Because at some point he'd break it like he was intentionally not going to the movies. At some point it was like a thing of spite that like he hadn't been in a while. So he's just going to double down and like, I'm not going to go to the theater ever again.
00:57:34
Speaker
Sounds like a man thing to do. My dad is such a hater. I love you, dad. um I can't wait to be like you when I'm older. And finally, he breaks. like, he's like I'm going to break it.
00:57:45
Speaker
So we all meet up with mine. And at the time, he had this. He had kind of just recently gotten out of the army. It had been like, no, it had been a while. It had been a while.
00:57:56
Speaker
He had just recently, I think, transitioned from being the JROTC guy at his high school to um a math teacher. And so it was, yeah, I guess it was really, really fully like gone out of the army basically. Cause I mean, JROTC isn't the army, but you get what I'm saying. Yeah.
00:58:13
Speaker
So he was like, I'm going to celebrate and bought a BMW M5. And this was like the pre-Tesla days where like everyone's car goes zero to 60 in like three seconds. ah This thing did zero to 60 in like three nine and had like 500 horsepower, the V10.
00:58:29
Speaker
And oh my God. Like this car ripped. It was just the power. You felt. When he stepped on it was just.
00:58:43
Speaker
You'd never felt anything like it before. Now everyone can replicate it with a Tesla. So it's like, ah, like as a kid, it was life changing. Um, just another reason why I love cars.
00:58:55
Speaker
So he took us to rush in this car. And as we were turning, like got off the highway to go into the commons where the theater was, uh, it'd be a transmission exploded. Ooh.
00:59:08
Speaker
Damn. Damn. It was like a $5,000 fix. We did not see Rush that night. Oh, no. We ended up seeing it a couple weeks later, and then he sold the car. But that was the beginning of the end for that car, and he still has not been to the movies since Rush.
00:59:26
Speaker
Really? No. He almost broke it for the boy in the heron. I mean, maybe maybe the transmission blowing up was a sign. Like, following Rush, like, if I saw Rush in the theater, ah okay, I'll say this.
00:59:41
Speaker
We left F1. When I left Top Gun Maverick from the theater, I was driving home to Danger Zone. I was just locked in. I didn't have that feeling after F1.
00:59:53
Speaker
I was just like, okay. And i hit a raccoon on the way home.
00:59:59
Speaker
I was so sad. I was making... There's this turn from the from the side road of Mopac, passing North Capital of Texas, getting back on Mopac.
01:00:10
Speaker
So it's just like one-lane turn. I don't know if you guys are familiar with the one. Yeah. yeah But I'm driving... i'm not speeding or anything. Again, I'm not feeling anything from F1. Going a normal speed. I see the raccoon coming.
01:00:22
Speaker
And so I brake, but like... I break just in enough time for the raccoon to pass. That was the mom. oh Oh, God. Her babies were right behind, and I hit one.
01:00:36
Speaker
I drove home in silence. Anyway, if i drove if I was leaving the theater after Rush, I know I'd have that feeling. If you had been speeding, those raccoons wouldn't have died.
01:00:48
Speaker
If I was speeding? Yeah. I would have perfectly just gone over them. You would have been ahead of them.
01:00:55
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ah You gotta to change the side skirts of the ah frontier.
01:01:00
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Get those extra tenths of a second. Yeah. um You guys want to play a little bit of a game? Real quick before we play the game. Cinematographer for Rush was Anthony Dodd Mantle.
01:01:12
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I want you guys to take a guess at what else this man has shot. Quigley with Oz Perkins and Gary Busey. No. Okay. Give us hint.
01:01:23
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um We've watched it. The Monkey. No. Directed by Oz Perkins. More recent. More recent? Yeah.
01:01:35
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This year. He's a cinematographer for a movie we saw this year. Did we all see it together? I'm not telling you. 28 years later. Correct. Oh, let's go. Same cinematographer behind 28 days later and 28 years later, slumdog millionaire and 127 hours.
01:01:52
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So he's very familiar working with our boy, Danny Boyle. Neato. So thought that was pretty cool. I'm ready for the game. All right. So we're going to play a fact or fiction.
01:02:04
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And we're going to go through 11 because we're going to have a tiebreaker. 11 different questions about ah Rush. This movie is based on a true story, but how much of it was dramatized and how much of it was true.
01:02:17
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ah Each question is worth one point. total of 11 points to get. um The answer, unless prompted otherwise, is fact or fiction. So who's ready to start?
01:02:30
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but Wait, how do we do we have to do like a buzzer? um Like raise our hand? No, I'm going to guess that ah I didn't think that far ahead.
01:02:41
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um Just answer them and we'll tally up the points and I bet one of you gets one wrong but the other gets it right. okay so we'll just go We'll go through each one. yeah okay Okay, I like that. i like but Alright.
01:02:54
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um So, question number one. Was Nicky Lauda's nickname really the rat? Fact. Fact.
01:03:06
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Fact. The score is tied one to one, ah but the name was not given to him by James Hunt during Formula Three like it was in the movie. It was actually given to him by a marketer at Marlboro, the cigarette cigarette company.
01:03:20
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Wow. They put it on a visor and gave it to him to wear. ah Hunt did call him the rat, but he didn't come up with the name. Okay. Question number two. Did James Hunt beat up a reporter? Fact or fiction?
01:03:35
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Fact. Fiction.
01:03:39
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Malik, you are correct. oh I was hoping that that was a fact. I really love that scene. Me too. The fact that he stood up for him. That's one of my favorite scenes in the movie. That's one of my favorite scenes as well. like i was So, Tachi, I'll give you the caveat that they, like, Lauda says that he didn't think it happened. Like, he he's like I don't know if that happened or not.
01:04:03
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And James Hunt's son, um... He's like, I guess it could have happened. But the follow-up question is, did the reporter actually ask Nicky Lauda what his wife thought of the burn scars?
01:04:17
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Yes. Fact. Fact. You're both wrong. Oh, It's fiction. What the reporter actually asked, and this is per Jerry Garrett, who was the ah editor for the Associated Press for their motorsport column that year.
01:04:34
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um When Lauda came back from his accident, he was asked at a press conference at the Italian Grand Prix if he planned to have any plastic surgery to repair the burn scars. Lauda was very angry at this question and defiant.
01:04:45
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No, no surgery. I don't care how I look. How I look is how I look. If people don't like the way I look, then they don't have to look at me. Um, that was the question that really riled him up though, where they got the inspiration for the reporter asking the question on if his wife like liked or like had any thoughts about the, how his appearance was, um, a columnist in like a print press had written if like, like he wondered if loud, his wife approved of Nikki's decision to not get plastic surgery.
01:05:17
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Um, that reporter, Did not on record get beaten up, but he did leave the motorsport beat like really quickly after that, like almost immediately. um But that was print. But no, no one directly asked, at least that we know of. No member of the press directly asked. So it's like a folktale in a way.
01:05:38
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Yeah. OK. So Malik, you are winning by one Malik to touchy one. Let's go. Question number three.
01:05:49
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Was James Hunt's car disqualified for being too wide? Fiction. Fiction. Fact. God. The movie pretty much beat for beat gets how that went down correct.
01:06:06
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That's insane. Did yeah like they still reinstate his? They did reinstate it. Yeah. um But yeah, almost beat for beat. It's exactly how it went down. Like reading the Wikipedia, it was like they just lifted this and put it in the script. Gotcha. Honestly, I respect it.
01:06:22
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I thought it was going to be some BS like, no, it was like too narrow or something. Uh, no, I, there's not a cut. There's like a few of these that are like, not like gotchas, but like, there's like a little bit of like a, like a twist where it's like, you know, you'll see a question. Number five, did Nikki Lauda and James hunt?
01:06:41
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Did Nikki Lauda and James hunt's rivalry go all the way back to formula three?
01:06:47
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I'm going to say fiction. I think it goes further.
01:06:51
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I'll say fact. Okay. Malik, you are up to Antachi. It is fiction. How far back does it go? They met in 1973 when they both joined Formula One.
01:07:07
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Oh, okay. Lauda came up racing in Central Europe in some regional Formula Series, as well as like privateering some sports car championships. um Hunt did come up in Formula 3, and he had some testy relationships with a lot of other drivers, um but none of them were Niki Lauda.
01:07:27
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I guess that makes that does make sense for for like a movie story to kind of have them have a pre-established relationship pre-F1. could see that.
01:07:38
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i could see yeah Question number six. Did Niki Lauda really take out a loan to buy his way into Formula One? I'm going to go fiction. I'll go fiction.
01:07:50
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It's a fact. But there's there's a little bit of a twist. He took out the loan. It was like 30,000 euros. And he bought his way into the March team.
01:08:01
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um But they gave him a seat in F2. But they promoted him to F1 after that. So his for the first team he raced for was March, but he did use that loan to buy his way into an F1 team.
01:08:13
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I wonder how much. Do we have any insights on how much that loan was? 30,000 euros. Okay. What does that translate to today? What were you going to What's the difference between f one two and three Is it like a race speed or what?
01:08:31
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ah The cars, really. um The regulations. like Formula 3 is smaller cars. F2 is bigger than F3, but smaller than F1. They're kind of like feeder series.
01:08:43
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Okay. F1, there's regulations on you know how big the car can be. you know Every component is basically measured out. and ah yeah know Formula 2 and Formula 3 are like the the junior versions of them. Okay.
01:08:58
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Question number seven. Did James Hunt really wear a patch on his suit that said sex breakfast of champions? I'm going say fact. I'll go fact. That's a fact. Let's go.
01:09:09
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He did later change it though to sex. It's a performance thing.
01:09:16
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i love it. Question number eight. Did James Hunt propose to Susie Miller on the spot in the Hexeth garage? i ah okay I have a follow question for after this question's answer is revealed.
01:09:34
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Was it that quick? You know't have to answer it right now. Did they just meet and it was that quick?
01:09:40
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That was the first time they had met. Was in that scene. In the movie. I'll go. Wait, was the question again? One more time.
01:09:51
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Did he really propose to Susie Miller on the spot in the Hesk at the garage? Fact. Fiction. It's fiction. Oh my God.
01:10:04
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um terrible intuition today. It took him a few weeks to do it. A few weeks? But it was pretty quick. Wow. He was married a second time. ah This one, like, okay, so she did really leave him for Richard Burton.
01:10:18
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Like, Susie Miller did leave James Hunt for Richard Burton. The movie got that part right. He was married a second time. ah He showed up late to the wedding. And then the wedding was delayed even further because the brother had, his brother had to go buy him a tie.
01:10:32
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Because he showed up without a tie to the wedding. Yikes. and the day before James died, he proposed to his third fiancรฉe over the phone.
01:10:41
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Wow. Yeah. But, yeah, Malik, if you guys aren't keeping score at home, Malik is five, Tachi has two. But we have... Enough where Tachi can come back if Malik gets all three of these wrong.
01:10:58
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Unlikely. This next one is not a fact or fiction. ah
01:11:05
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The closest answer numerically wins. How many women did self-described playboy James Hunt claim to have relationships with over the years?
01:11:21
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How many women claimed or how many did he claim? How many women did he claim? Okay, got it.
01:11:30
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um I'm going to say... Wait, one more clarifying question. How many relationships or how many relations?
01:11:40
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Relationships. Relationships. Okay. Relationships. Okay, then.
01:11:53
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I'm going to say 1,347. going to go you. Who's closer? just kidding. I'll go... um Can we get a time frame? How many years?
01:12:07
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No. His whole life. His whole life? Okay. Yeah. He was like 45 or something. He was charismatic.
01:12:19
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And Chris Hemsworth. Is that really your guess? 1,300? thirteen hundred Yeah, that's deadass my guess. Okay.
01:12:27
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I'm going to go with a number that's still a lot, like a shocking amount, but way less than yours. I'll go 300. Malik's closer. What?
01:12:38
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What's the number? 5,000. Five? 5,000 women. five five thousand women With three zeros? Is what claimed. He apparently, i was reading about it, he apparently like would have sex with a new woman before every single race.
01:12:56
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Like, the the morning of. And he would always be kind of drunk. We got like four scenes in this movie. That's like ten races a year, right? There was like, I think like 15 or 16 on the counter around that time.
01:13:11
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I guess he was with a lot of women all the time.
01:13:16
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Remember, this is just what he claims. 5,000. But yeah, 5,000. Didn't have... but yeah five thousand didn't we have To go back to Love Island. Yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking. What was the highest one on Love Island? Was like 100?
01:13:28
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It was Austin. ah i don't I don't remember exactly the number. ah It was in the high hundreds. It was like 300 something. And that's just like a Joe Schmo. That's just like a dude.
01:13:40
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But I remember in the suitcase it said that he had sent like thousands of nudes or something like that. And so I'm thinking of it and I was thinking of it in the context of that. formula island and uh we saw the f1 drivers and don't know see what happens yeah i thought 300 was obscene it is it's crazy let's not forget it is i don't even know 5 000 people like
01:14:09
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um yeah that's crazy no wonder he died at 45 um Tachi, you are mathematically eliminated, but we're going to the last two. Mathematically eliminated is crazy.
01:14:22
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Did Lauder really only miss two races? Fact or fiction? For his whole career? No, after the the burn, the neighboring accident. You said two races?
01:14:34
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and
01:14:38
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thought he missed I only missed like three in the movie. That's what I thought too. So I'll say fiction. I'm also going to say fiction. It's fact.
01:14:49
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He only missed two, six weeks. Wow. He did return for the Italian Grand Prix at Monza and he did finish fourth. I did think that was going to be one of those gotcha. Like, no, it's three. ah and did Nicky Lauder really give up in the final race of the 1976 season after two laps?
01:15:06
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Fact. Fact. Fact. That is a fact, but the reason for him retiring in the race is not because of the rain. It's because due to the burns, his tear ducts were not working right.
01:15:22
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He was excessively watering his eyes and he couldn't blink. So you can see. So he pulled over
01:15:31
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The first person shots of the final race when it's raining and they can barely see out of their visors is crazy. i don't know how like everyone crashed or didn't crash.
01:15:43
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So the final score, you two got the last one right, right? Yeah. and The final score was Malik seven, Tachi three. Tachi together, we we add up to the number 10, and that's an even number. And you can divide that in half.
01:16:00
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We both get five. Exactly. That's five. That's five.
01:16:07
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We're both winners.
01:16:12
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Yeah. Some other crazy facts about the 1976 season that I was researching before we started recording today. um James Hunt was considered one of the cheapest world champions ever.
01:16:25
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His contract, which he did sign like right before the season started, was only $200,000. Oh, which was pretty small for. F1 driver, even in the 70s.
01:16:38
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Even in the 70s, yeah. Wow. um I mean, that's got to be still shy of a million for like with inflation today, I'd assume.
01:16:49
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who ah Someone pull that up. Chat, pull up the... What about Grok? Grok, what is this? 200,000. Rip, James Hunt, you would have really loved Grok.
01:17:08
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$200,000 in 1976 is equivalent in purchasing power to about $1.1 million today. Good call. We're just shy of a million. Man.
01:17:18
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We're so broke. um Yeah. I mean, it's still a crazy amount of money, but for that to be considered cheap, especially nowadays, Lewis Hamilton makes like $50 or $60 million a year something like that. Jesus Christ. was going to tens millions.
01:17:35
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Lewis Hamilton has like multiple designer hypercars tailored specifically to him. Like essencen' I think I've gone in one driver, which is like boutique, um like a boutique Italian hypercar company ah made a one off car called the Zonda LH, which the Zonda was like a car they had in production, but they did like a special trim just for Lewis.
01:17:58
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It was the Zonda LH and that is like a one point one million dollar car.
01:18:04
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originally like i can't even i can't even comprehend i can and i just know i'll never own one unless unless the pod makes it big so let's go guys donate to the patreon help me buy a pagani we don't have it set up yet but with if a million of you donate one dollar i always think i'm like if i can just get a million people to donate a dollar that's it Then I could get and can solve those things.
01:18:33
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That's all. million people I'm not asking for a lot. Some other crazy facts from the 1976 season. ah Before the accident at the Nรผrburgring, Lauda was on pace for the most wins in a season ever.
01:18:51
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I did see a couple of the records that he's broken. If I'm not mistaken, he still holds the record for most podium wins in F1. That's top three.
01:19:02
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He is an all-time great. I mean, Niki Lauda was just an incredible driver. um He is just... His story is, i mean, it's it's worth a movie and it it really is worth a movie. Yeah. this If this movie portrayed him like 90% accurate, then I like, it's, it's commendable.
01:19:23
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Like people, people call him an asshole, but I'm like, he's very calculated. He's very honest. And I was just like, I was, I was for it. I'm a fan. So the movie does turn it up a notch in a bit.
01:19:36
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um He was he's very calculated. He was very straightforward, but he was a lot, I think. Nicer. Yeah. um He I mean, he was still very like an intense guy, but he wasn't like. You know, it's all calculated risk and we, ah you know, all like I mean, I'm sure he was like that, but apparently it was it was definitely hand up for his character in the movie.
01:19:59
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Yeah, we had we had to have the yin and yang for the movie. Because one of the things you remember the scene where they vote to whether to run the Nurburgring race or not before loud is accident.
01:20:11
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You know, loud gets crushed in the vote and James is like, Nikki, it helps if people like you. Uh, loud, uh, his like side of that vote only lost by one in real life.
01:20:23
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Okay. They were one vote away from not running that race. And, Funny enough, after that was the last race they ran at the old configuration of the Nรผrburgring.
01:20:34
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That was the last one because the problem with that track and they didn't really touch on it in the movie was the that configuration. The Nรผrburgring is like 15 miles long and it's so hard for safety equipment and vehicles to get around it and react to an accident quickly.
01:20:52
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That track is still there. um It's legendary. it's It's known as the green hell and a lot of car companies will test their cars on it. And there is like a lap time board for like what car is the fastest around the Nรผrburgring.
01:21:05
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But no one, no series races around it anymore. The whole configuration. See, that was one of the things that I wanted to follow up on after watching it was what made this track so dangerous?
01:21:18
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It's it was it's super fast. It's super long. And I mean, what just watch like a video of like like Nerva Ring full lap.
01:21:29
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It it takes like. minutes like 10 or 11 minutes to get around the thing it's an insane track and it has it has it all the corner where nikki crash is actually known as lauda links wow that that's what it's called now it's a little morbid but um that's uh that's racing for you yeah he was given last rights in the hospital yeah they didn't think he was gonna live he went into a coma and they thought that was it wow I do want to say, like, I think we've already been singing the praises of this movie, but the dynamic between Hunt and Lauda was just excellent.
01:22:12
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Yeah. It was so good. It was so good. Like... i I got pretty emotional during this movie, especially like the last scene. At the hangar? Yeah, at the hangar. Like, Han always kind of has his guard up and comes off as like like pretty insecure.
01:22:32
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like when when all is said and done but Lauda gives him this like reassurance and this respect that they they work off of each other and like they work in that it's i forget exactly the quote but it's greater for somebody to have an enemy than for the fool to only hang around friends and like that's the relationship and I think that really spoke to Hunt and so I just thought that was amazing and then he also tells him Hunt is apologizing for feeling like he has a lot of the weight of the responsibility for his crash.
01:23:07
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And a lot of straight up is just like, yeah, you do. But every day I was in that hospital room, I was watching you win. So you were equally as responsible for getting me back in the car. And I was just like, yeah, let's fucking go.
01:23:19
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That was heat. And that's how it was in real life. They were they were definitely rivals on the track, um but they were they were better friends than the movie portrayed them to be during the season.
01:23:29
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Like they were friends. Um, you know, I'm not sure if they were like, let's hang out all the time friends, but they weren't like at each other's throats. They cordial. Yeah. They were very cordial with each other. They
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01:23:40
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respected each other a lot. Um,
01:23:42
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And they, uh, Nicky Lauda really liked the movie. I mean, he, he had a lot of say in the movie, especially in like the script and the technical aspects of it. Um, but I mean, I think he's, I think he did a, like, I think he was very happy with how the relationship was portrayed.
01:23:56
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Well, think that quote came directly from Lauda at the end that Daniel Bruhl says that that hunt was one, like few of the many people that he liked, even fewer of those he respected and the only one that he envied.
01:24:12
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Yeah. yeah he ah Hunt was really the only guy who really pushed Lauda like that. I mean, Lauda won, I think, three or four championships. He won the first pre-accident. He won two post-accident, which is nuts.
01:24:27
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um He was just such an uber-talented driver. he yeah you know I'm so glad they made this movie because I'm so glad i introduced people to like the history of F1. And that's one of the things I think this movie did better than F1 was it soaked you into that universe and it felt lived in instead of like, here are these characters kind of standing around as the F1 crowd walks around them.
01:24:53
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Yeah. Like other drivers were in the movie, you know, Clay Ragazzoni was, you know, fairly prominent. Yeah. driver featured in the movie you know they mentioned like jackie icks um you saw a lot of like the cars it just it felt like a lived-in universe whereas f1 as fun as it was it just kind of didn't feel like that that team was really there you know yeah no i get i get what you mean i think i a start saying laukton instead of locked in loud does that work laukton is that anything
01:25:30
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I kind of like it. We might have to workshop it. We'll see. I'll workshop it. Yeah. At least in terms of the movie, I really love the rivalry. Felt really, really grounded. Very believable.
01:25:42
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Um, I, I love their interactions. Rush was great. Very, very believable. And also it's really fascinating comparing the pit crews from rush and f one Oh, good point. Like the speed, like how, how much they've, um,
01:26:03
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Oh, what's the word? I guess worked on their efficiency. Their timing is insane. The thing was, I mean, in, in what's crazy about F1 now is there is a guy for every single part of the pit stop. And that is your only job.
01:26:18
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So like an Indy car, like the tire changer will unscrew the tire, take it off, put on the new tire and screw it back on. In F1, there's a guy who takes the old or unscrews it.
01:26:29
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Someone takes the old tire. Someone puts on the new tire and then the, the, the wheel gun puts it back on. That's, and that's how they do it. There's like triple the amount of people, especially, and then then compared to the old days, like, you know, it's just like some guy smoking a cig. Like i'm putting a tire on. Yeah.
01:26:47
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I was getting always. go ahead. I was going to I was getting so frustrated watching the pit crew and rush. I was still like, they're so fucking slow. I know. Like, hurry up. There's millions on the line.
01:26:58
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I've always loved the sound of a pit stop.
01:27:04
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and It just like scratches an itch. Malik wants to be a racing fan so bad. I think I want to get in the car. I want to drive. We need to rip Kota karts, the go karts at Kota.
01:27:17
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That would be so fun. Have you guys done go karts? Yeah. I've done go karts, but like I've always wanted to do it at Kota. What is that? I've done karts at like the Circuit of the Americas. Oh, okay. Like on the track, you can get the the go karts. I've done go karts at You can't do it on the track. you yeah There's a go karts track next to the track, but they're pretty fast. Okay, well, I want to do that. That that would be fun. How fast? Like 50?
01:27:41
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like Yeah, like 50. No way. Dude, they're quick. I crashed one. I thought I had a concussion.
01:27:50
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I haven't driven. Actually, I didn't even crash one. I got crashed into. That was the worst part. Oh, we should plan this. And I'm so serious. We should do it. I'm down. should do it.
01:28:00
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want to drive. um We should ah or we could just throw all our money into a track day, like a real track at Koda. Those cost just a couple thousand bucks. Oh. what do you mean just but What do you mean a real track day?
01:28:11
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Like you drive your car on the track. Like my truck? Well, no, like ah like ah like a car, like a race car. Like they give me a car? No, I mean you need to bring something. okay that a We just need 4,000 people to give us $1.
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01:28:41
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Any final thoughts on these movies?
01:28:45
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I'm so happy you guys watched Rush. Rush was good. i'm i It was on my radar from 2013 to 2014 and then I forgot about it and it's been resurrected.
01:28:58
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I feel like it's criminally underseen. like no one kind No one really talks about it. i'm good It's just a great movie. Even though I just saw it, I am going to say it's underrated because i haven't i like no one has talked about this. like You brought it up, and I was like, oh, yeah, that movie.
01:29:13
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One thing that we didn't talk about um that's just kind of a funny parallel between the two. ah Hans Zimmer did the score for Rush as well. Thank you for bringing that up. Thank you. i think, yeah.
01:29:26
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The score for Rush is... infinitely better than the one for F1. F1 has some heat. Like the opening. specific Specifically the opening.
01:29:36
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And then there's a couple here and there. But overall, I feel like the F1 score was just like, was like, all right, cool. But Rush, I was i was in it.
01:29:50
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Agreed. I think that's really funny that he did both. Because they're so vastly different. They're so different. They're so different. It's so interesting having the same backdrop and two totally, completely different movies.
01:30:04
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Yeah, I prefer the score to Rush than F1. Agreed. Tachi, any final thoughts? I think they were both fun for different reasons. I think both should be watched.
01:30:16
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I don't think F1... We kind of crapped on F1 a lot. It's still a good movie. F1 is still a good movie. Yeah. would you give F1? We don't ratings. Doing ratings?
01:30:28
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Let's do it.
01:30:30
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I'll go first. Okay. I'll go first. All right. I'll go first. F1 directed by Josh Krasinski. Joseph. Joseph. i was My joke didn't even land. I was going to say John Krasinski because that's the guy from The Office and I got that wrong. should have said Josh ah josh Bone we back. We so back.
01:30:58
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I'm giving F1 three out of five. Whoa. Okay. I'll give it 3.5. three point five
01:31:11
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And Alex, you went home and you rated it and we both saw it. but you were so excited. I've seen both your ratings. I give it a yeah i give it a ah ah four out of five.
01:31:23
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It's a very hype moment and aura based four out of five. And it probably would go down on a rewatch, but I'm also a car fan. That's yeah. It scratched my itch. Like I'm just like, yeah.
01:31:35
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And I think that's totally justified. um a movie can definitely be that based off of hype and aura moments. I just truly felt like the story wasn't enough for me and it did feel like,
01:31:49
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like uh top gun mavericks nachos just being reheated just in a different form and i i just i can't and i can't shake it and then just knowing that it was like the entire team behind top gun maverick did f one it is what it is so but it's a fun movie i had a good time but what'd you give rush oh uh i'll give mine i gave rush a four
01:32:18
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Easy four. I
01:32:21
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i think Rush... So I'm between a four and a 4.5. I don't think it's fully there for a 4.5 for me, but yeah, it's a solid four.
01:32:33
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Like a solid four. It's a 4.5 for me. I think it's solidly... I don't know what it would need to be a five out of five. Like a 10 out of 10. I don't know what it would need.
01:32:44
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Yeah, I feel like this should be a five out of five for you. I
01:32:50
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Watching it again today, I watched it this morning, it just was like, yeah, it's a 4 out of, like, 4.5 out of 5, 9 out of 10. It's like, I don't know what's missing.
01:33:02
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But it's it is my favorite racing movie. I mean, again, i think we should have a segment talking about like how we rate our letterbox. Like, how we how we rate on letterbox. But I think the difference between a 4.5 and a 5 is something inexplainable. Yeah. that Oh, it genuinely is. Like, even if you tried and you sat on it, you're like, I couldn't tell you why this isn't a 5. And I...
01:33:29
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Can tell you why I think this is a five, but it might not make sense to you. I think for me and something I've kind of pinned down is there will be like a moment in there, like in the movie that just.
01:33:43
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Like some landmark thing that happens in it, that's just. Jaw dropping. Like it it has, it's transcended and it leaves you speechless. So like every single 10 I have, I can pick out one moment in it where it's like that moment just lives rent free in my head. And I think the thing with rush is there's not a moment that lives rent free in my head.
01:34:06
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That's probably what it's missing. It's I love that movie. I will watch it probably four or five more times before I die. Like it's my favorite car movie. I'll recommend it to everybody or my favorite racing movie.
01:34:17
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I'll recommend it to everybody. Cars is your favorite car movie. What? Cars is your favorite car movie. Cars 2. Yeah. Yeah.
01:34:28
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um But it just I don't think it had like the one moment where it was like I'd stand up. I get what you mean. But in every single other movie that's a 10, I can be like, it's this moment.
01:34:42
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It was just, whoa, that makes sense. Thank you for showing us rush. I'm glad that we bundled that together with F1. Definitely go see F1 in theaters.
01:34:53
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Take your dad. Probably the dad movie of the year. It's a good time. What else would even be in contention? I don't even think anything would be in contention. Helio.
01:35:09
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Sneaks.
01:35:12
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Sneaks is going to sneak its way into my top 10 before the end of the year. I tell you that much. The way best animated is going, sneaks could make it into a nom at the Oscars. That would be absolutely insane. All folks. Is that it for us?
01:35:26
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I believe that's it for us. ah Thank you so much for listening to me rant about cars for an hour and 40 minutes. Superman comes out this week. Today's July 8th. It comes out July 11th. Go check it out in the theater.
01:35:40
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um Are we going to do a Superman episode? We are, but i believe by the time next, the next episode we film will be releasing, we'll be coming up on a very special anniversary.
01:35:55
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Anniversary. What's that? just have to find out next episode. wait What? I don't want to find out. work here. I'm going to tell you after we stop filming. All right. um Thank you so much for listening. Go watch F1 in theaters. um Be sure to follow us on Instagram, Letterboxd, and... Go watch Rush.
01:36:18
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and Go watch Rush. Yeah. watch Rush to watch Rush. Watch F1 and then watch Rush. If I watched Rush before F1, I think I would have had less of a good time during Agreed. Just because it's peak.
01:36:31
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Rush is peak. Thank you guys so much for listening. Have a beautiful night, day, or weekend. We will see you in the next one. Peace. Peace. See ya.