Podcast Awards Mix-Up
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And the Oscar for Best Movie Podcast goes to...
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The Real Guys. What the hell?
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Oh my god, no way. Wait a minute, wait a minute. I have the wrong envelope. Lost in the frame wins. We did it. we did it We
Introduction of 'Lost in the Frame' Hosts
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to Lost in the Frame. I'm your host, Alex. I'm your host, Malik. And I'm your host, Tachi. And we are thrilled to be bringing you tonight's episode, which has gone through some ah scheduling conflicts so far.
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But before we we get into that, how are you guys doing today? I am good. I am feeling good. I am doing good.
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Things are good. That's a lot of good. lot of good. I'm excited for today's episode. Can you top that, Tachi? Are things great? Can I top everything good? I dare you top good.
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Top me. Okay, I'll try. Wait.
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I'm great. Fuck. I'm so glad. now you've been topped.
Tachi's Travel Woes
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Unfortunately, I can't continue the topping because I'm doing terrible. Why are you doing terrible? um I went to it at 4 a.m. m last night.
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ah No desire of my own to do that. um flew into Boston, and then on the way to my parents' place, there was a little car accident that ah ah shut down the interstate.
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I was stuck on it for like an hour. I'd already landed like 1230. It's about an hour and 40 minutes too from the airport to their house. Had another hour on top of that, and I was suffering. And to top it all off, um the final topping, I'd watched the Minecraft movie on the plane, so...
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The brain was already rotted before the ah sleep deprivation set. I would love to hear your experience with the Minecraft movie. Please share with the class. Briefly, 10 seconds. How did you how did you feel?
Review of the Minecraft Movie
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The Minecraft movie is a tale of two movies. um It's like hot millennial corpo garbage for half of it.
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Actually, probably 75% um And then the other 25% is the funniest movie of all time. Wow. I think 25% is enough to make me want to watch it.
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What? I think 25% is enough to make me want to watch it. um you You kind of got out. I was sitting through it like a mouth agape the whole time. It's unbelievable.
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I don't think it's as unbelievable as War of the Worlds. um because I had a better time with War of the Worlds. It was more fun, but Minecraft movie was a pretty fun watch, especially on an airline.
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um And the crazy part was, not to not to spin our tires too long on this, but um there was a parental advisory before... before the movie.
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I sent a video to you guys because I had to give proof of it. So we could, if needed, we can post the videos on our socials if you guys want proof. But Delta Airlines, um Delta, huge sponsor of the podcast. Thank you for those free tickets. Thank you.
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They really helped out. First class.
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Delta Airlines, if you click the Minecraft movie and click hit play, it's like parental advisory warning. there is... there's content in this movie that would, um disturb adults and children or something like that.
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Um, I think it's fair. i think that's a fair assumption. Um, I'm just glad that finally someone had the balls to stand up and ah do what was needed.
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Someone needs to, i was going to ask, well was there any, like, what was the scene? do you think that caused that warning? Or do you think it was just the movie as a whole? and think it was the movie as like an idea.
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is is shocking and appalling to both adults and children alike. Yes, sir. Yes, that's fair. in certain circles, it could be quantified as a public health hazard.
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um I think we need to um look into that. I think the CDC should study it. I'd give it a probably 3 out of 10. And think you guys should go watch it.
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was really scared that I was going to be a three out of five. I'll watch it. How does that 25% compared to the naked gun? Well, like the naked gun is, is funny because like the jokes are funny, but like the whole movie is pretty funny, but these jokes were like moderately funny, but in the context of the movie they were in, it was like, it hit like crack.
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Okay. I mean, there's just, there's just a couple of moments where it's just like this. They were, they were, they were actually cooking. i I hope that there was a stranger on the plane watching you watch the Minecraft movie.
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Having a good time. The person to my left was asleep. The person to my right, what were they watching? The Ray Charles, Jamie Foxx. The Jamie Foxx, Ray Charles movie. I love the idea of like an unknown fan of the podcast catching you watch that on the plane and recording you and posting it to TikTok to like try to get you canceled.
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I don't think we've done a face reveal for me and Alex yet. Oh, we haven't. No, we need to do that. yeah Someone in your circle already. That'd be exposing you. ah You have a traitor in your midst.
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Snakes all around us. Trust no one, not even yourself. Yeah. Have we introduced the theme of today's episode? No. No. Okay. The theme of today's episode, we're doing some very early, premature Oscar predictions.
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This is different from our what are we excited for episode. um We yeah thought we were so good at predicting the future that time where we made up our movie news.
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um We decided to go ahead and... um and predict the whole Oscars. um So when you listen, um remember that this, if you do place a bet in Vegas, you are just the actual click of a button away from, from generational wealth with very true.
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All you got to do is be brave enough to to go through with it. Okay. Is this financial advice legally? i i can't say yes. Yes. I mean, it's probably as good as like Enron was before the whole fraud thing happened.
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That's pretty good. I'm going to say put your mortgage on black. That is financial advice. Especially if we get a good chunk of these predictions correct.
Zoe Kravitz and 'The Batman Part Two' Discussion
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We'll circle back. Yeah, this this this episode has a guaranteed follow-up. Yeah, this is this is the circle back episode. Before we get into that, we've got some movie news. I'll start it off here.
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ah Zoe Kravitz as Catwoman will not return for the Batman part two. And I saw this and I saw people like freaking out about it And i was like, but were we expecting her to?
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Cause I wasn't. I wasn't either. Were you Toshi? I kind of was ish, but not maybe not to be a substantial role.
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I don't think there was enough for her to come back for. I think she'd come back in part three. Yeah. Like, I think she could always like move forward as like, as a side character, but she wasn't integral to the actual Batman story. And so whatever direction it's going to go. Yeah. I saw that come out and I was like, Oh, that's okay.
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I saw another prominent part of the crew or cast is now returning as well. Is it the DP? Yes. Yeah, I forgot to put that on the movie news. So it was Greg Frazier who shot Dune and the Batman.
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We found out, I think we had covered it on movie news too a couple months ago, but we found out he wasn't going to be shooting Dune Messiah. Everyone assumed it was because he would be shooting the Batman part two.
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Surprise, he's not shooting either of them. Instead, he's shooting the four Beatle biopic movies. Four? Four. ah Four concurrent Beatle movies. They're all going to come out like the same time.
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So not a movie about four Beatles, but four movies about the four Beatles. Yes. And each each member gets their own movie and they're all dropping the same dates.
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Yeah. That's what he's going to be busy doing. Is that going to be the next Barbenheimer Beatlemania where we have to go sit through four Beatle movies in one day? and I don't care. i I've never really cared about the Beatles. neither. It's the Beatles. I could literally give a hoot less.
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i the show I hope they showed the bit where Yoko Ono ruins John Lennon and Chuck Berry singing.
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The most I know about the Beatles is that one John Lennon picture of him walking with Yoko. And he's like, he's kind of like walking like a cartoon character. You guys know which one I'm talking about? Yes. Yeah, that's like the extent of my Beatles knowledge is that they gave us that picture.
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I saw someone say that he deserved to be shot for walking like that. That's not.
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Speaking of. I don't know much about the Beatles. I've heard some of their songs, of course, but yeah really when I think of them, or I think of John Lennon, I think of that audio that people use on TikTok all the time. It's like, kill John Lennon! Kill John Lennon! It's like the sleeper cell waking up
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What we got next here. Top three wrestlers turned actors via Hollywood Reporter.
Wrestlers Turned Actors: A Debate
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Would you change the ranking? Here is the Hollywood Reporter's ranking. Number one, Batista.
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Number two, Dwayne Johnson. Number three, John Cena. Disagree.
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What is your order? Number one, Batista. Number two, John Cena. Number three, Dwayne Johnson. I agree with you, but to play devil's advocate, don't think Johnson's been in enough yet.
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Whereas Dwayne Johnson has. lot of it isn't good, but he's got the volume and the best ability is availability. If we're going based off of quantity, i don't know. it's just it might just be personal vendetta against the It would be Jack Black, right? from Because he was a wrestler at one time.
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Was he? Nacho Libre. Oh my god. And he says yes to everything now.
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Nacho Libre canon to the WWE wwe universe. i just I think it's a personal bias. I like john i would say I like John Cena more than Dwayne. So I would just put him at number two.
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I would too. Maybe he could surpass John Cena. but We'll see how the smashing machine goes. Have you guys watched Peacemaker season one?
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No. Oh, you haven't? Not yet. I think season two yes season two just dropped. um That retcon news was actually insane. Yeah, if if you guys are unaware what we're talking about, the end of the um Peacemaker season one was originally it showed the Snyderverse Justice League, and then recently they changed to show the the Gunverse Justice League,
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The gun locker, Justice League. The gun's loaded. And it looks weird. It's like Uncanny Valley. It's so strange. I've never seen, um don't think I've ever seen that big of a retcon before.
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So they they changed the the existing episode? Yes. Okay. Got it. Which is why you you guys should be buying physical media. Don't let them take what they, don't let them just change things on you, okay? We want records.
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Fight the power. Yeah. It's punk rock to buy physical media now.
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What we got next? YouTube is reportedly in the conversation to purchase the rights to the Oscars. ah So do you think that means we get Mr. Beast hosting it? hu We have a segment for who we want to host the Oscars before we get into our predictions. So we'll, we'll touch on that.
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It's right there. I honestly. It'd be like 10 seconds. I'm still struggling. It's okay. It's okay. All this for you had to work today too. Yes. Oh man.
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I got, i went to bed before I got up at eight. Cause I, I woke up, the sun was in my eyes. i was like, to go see the cat.
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It's why I'm here. um Is it a good thing if YouTube is... Let's just pretend YouTube purchases the rights to the Oscars. Does this help viewership or does it hurt it?
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Maybe. Just maybe? Just maybe. Everyone's got access to YouTube, but is it going to YouTube premium only? think the ads will be pretty brutal.
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Wouldn't the ads just be like the normal commercial breaks, though? Maybe. There could be more of them.
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Oh, so you're saying ads in the middle of the ceremony? Just everywhere, For those that don't have YouTube premium. All over it It could be bad. We'll see. Instead misreading who the Best Picture Award goes to, they just get served a Feastables ad before they find out.
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I always get this crepe place in Lakeway. I always get ads for it. I'll be like watching like true like a true crime video, a new video essay, and then it's like, boom, Vivel Crepes and Coffee in Lakewood, Texas.
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yeah like Like five times in a video. Can't relate. We got a premium member over here. and need to just bite the bullet into it. But it's like, it's the principle of like doing another subscription. just like, get out of here.
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It's a bad world we live in. But if I have to live in this world, i'm going to live in it without ads.
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But in a way, you're supporting ads by by falling for their scheme. Big advertisement is ah flowing through Malik right now. What's next?
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um We got James Gunn being talked about again today. um He confirmed Superman 2 and Batman 2. Wait, Batman 2? The Patman? Pattinson?
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like the patman patentton Yeah, is that the Batman we're talking about? ye is Yeah. Begins filming soon.
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But they're not in the same universe. I'm confused. That's what he said. Yeah, Gunn still has like oversight to the Batman 2. like I saw things of him talking. like He's constantly talking with Matt Reeves.
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like he had There was an article that came out. They're like, yeah, I've read the script from Matt Reeves. He's got it. It's great. It was like right before the news dropped that the entire script was finished. But James Gunn is at least involved.
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God, I hope it's not like a James Gunn movie. hope it's like a... a serious movie again. i want gritty, dark Batman. I think we're fine. Something in the way. So is it confirmed that Robert Pattinson is not going to be DCU Batman?
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nothing No one's confirmed anything with that. Okay. I don't even think they've teased Batman in the whatever it's called, the but gun locker, the gun, the gun safe.
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I wonder if they're going to try like a, like a Batman and Robin thing and then have Robert Pattinson killed off. Robin becomes Batman. So gun gets his choice at his Batman.
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Hmm. I don't know what they'll do. I don't know what they'll do. Me neither. We'll see. We'll see. ah Paramount confirmed building a World War Z universe is a top priority? question mark Hey, stop.
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and but if they If they stay true to the book, then sure. Give us a real adaptation. But who's asking for this? Nobody. You're not 28 years later. We want Jimmy. We don't want Brad Pitt.
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That's all I think of. I just think they see the success of something like 28 years later and they're like, all right, let's bring that one back. Where's Brad? He's out here somewhere.
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Studios are weird. Yes, they are. Yes, they are.
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I don't know what that was. um New casting announcement for Spider-Man BND? Brand new day. Brand new day. Oh, who got announced? ah You know, I wrote it down and I thought I'd remember and and I forgot.
00:17:58
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So give me a moment. And I will. Today we've learned that I'm terrible operating under no sleep. I didn't read our show notes.
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Tachi wrote shorthand show notes and forgot. And I'm good. No, there's a fault in you somewhere and it has to do with a Star Wars opinion you formulated recently.
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Okay. Okay. Well, this will be our last thing before we get into our Oscar predictions. And I'm talking to you two directly. Well, no. Wait. before we Before we do that, you guys should go watch the Arco trailer.
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Tachi put me onto it. He's searching for the thing, so I just like, let's cover this. um Tachi put us onto it. It looks great, and I'm really excited for it. It is a French animated movie.
00:18:47
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Franime? and think we can call that. Hell yeah. Franime? Let's see if it becomes a thing, but I'm excited. And it won't be the only time it comes up this episode.
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Spoiler. But Malik, time to be wrong in front of millions of listeners. So hit us with your best shot. Here we go. The Last Jedi is a good movie.
00:19:09
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Hell, it's a great movie. And I don't understand the hate. a And I think... You guys will be on the wrong side of history because we saw it with the prequels.
00:19:23
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There was ah hate for them when they came out and then there was an appreciation for for them decades later. Yeah, but the prequels at least had like an overarching story that made sense. The problem with the prequels was the execution of the nitty gritty.
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The sequels didn't even have... The overarching thing to fall back on. If we're thinking an overarching theme. Maybe The Last Jedi did. I'll give The Last Jedi some credit that it tried to be different. It kind of went outside the parameters of the Disney machine, the franchise monster that we kind of all detest.
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But the problem is, despite it doing that, that doesn't mean it's a good movie because it's not a good movie. I disagree heavily. All Disney did is retcon the heroes of the original trilogy and turn them into like comically loser forms of what we expected them to be in order to elevate these new characters um instead of just letting them naturally grow into the positions that
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you know, they were were given. The Last Jedi, think, was the worst example of it because I think what happened with Luke was so out of character for him, especially with the way we saw his arc resolved in the return of the Jedi that, sure, you said well, maybe he got jaded with age, but it's still like we haven't seen enough to where it makes sense. Even in the context of that movie, it doesn't really make sense. we're not just We're just not given enough other than that he's old and cranky because he's old and cranky.
00:20:59
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You don't think that the ending of Luke's story kind of circles back to where you think his story left off in Return of the Jedi and him coming almost full circle into his character in the face-off that he has with Kylo? Well, no, because i don't I don't think he would have done that with Kylo in the first place. This was a guy who threw down his lightsaber in the face of the Emperor because he believed at the bottom of his heart there was good in child killing, planet blowing up,
00:21:28
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arm cutting or hand cutting off Darth Vader. And he refused to eat. I wouldn't, I will not fight you father. i will not do it. Cause he believed that much. Even when everyone said no, even when everybody said no, no, you're crazy.
00:21:42
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I think he was too, he was too green. I think he was a child with an optimistic look on life. So it made sense. No, because that's what he was in empire strikes back when he rushes off. Cause he thinks he can beat Vader.
00:21:56
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The Last Jedi is great. Great? I think it's great. Acceptable acceptable. Cam also thinks it's great. We both loved it. I saw Cam give The Rise of Skywalker a 6 out of 10 on Letterboxd. So...
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she I think she was she was a fan of the kiss. she also There was a lot of issues with the Rise of Skywalker. We all agreed on them. She really liked the kiss. She was like, I wanted them to kiss. So think that was enough to get it to like a three between Kylo Rey.
00:22:26
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oh That was also just... No, we're not getting into that. we we make we we dis can but they They do the kiss and then he smiles and then just...
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Me when girl... we We should have a Star Wars episode. and Just another one. Yeah. it was really funny. We were watching Rise of Skywalker and then um we find out that Palpatine is back and immediately she's like, what?
00:22:55
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We should do a birthday special for me because it's coming up. So that's why I use me. We get blasted and argue about Star Wars. Tachi and I in the past we did birthday specials so we should definitely do that here.
00:23:09
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We did the Lord of the Rings trilogy one year for Tachi's birthday. And for you we did a ah what was it? The Oscar Isaac movie that you love. Inside Llewyn Davis. Yeah.
00:23:20
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And then another one. I think Honey Boy. With Shia. Yeah. Yeah Honey Boy. We might have to do that. I'm down. I'm in. ah The cast announcement real quick though is Tramiel Tillman.
00:23:34
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That's right. I did see that. So that's really exciting. You think he's going to dance? He better. He didn't dance in Mission Impossible, though.
00:23:45
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No, but he had like that. did in my heart. He had that crazy tension in Mission Impossible. Yeah, he had that that freak tension going on. If we get any of that in Spider-Man, it's immediately a five out of five for me. All right, fellas.
00:23:58
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Are you ready for our early Oscar predictions? Let's do it. This is going to be something. This is going to be so good. Half of these movies have not come out yet. We understand it is August.
00:24:10
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There is a lot of movies slated from now until the end of the year. So we're predicting this purely off of vibes. Who's in the movie? Who's directing? And I think we're going fun. and we're going to, like I said, we'll circle back to this episode at the end of the year. And also when the actual categories drop.
00:24:29
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Speak for yourself. I'm not picking these off vibes. I've been given the site. You've been given the site? Yeah.
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I've meditated on this. I know what's going to happen.
Potential Oscars Hosts
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All of these picks did come to me in a dream.
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I'm ready to be enlightened.
00:24:49
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kick We'll kick it off with the host. Who would you guys want to host? If you have anyone in mind. If you don't, all good. I just don't want Jimmy Kimmel. Me neither.
00:25:00
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I'm a little tired of the Kimmel experience. I'm Kimmed out. I would like to nominate um another late night host, Conan O'Brien.
00:25:16
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i love Conan. did well. He did well last year. Yeah. I would like to see him again if it had to be a late night host. he's He's always been my favorite host for late night and I always listen to his podcast. I watch a lot of his um is YouTube specials stuff.
00:25:35
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Big fan. He's a good one. I think we need to give Chris Rock another shot.
00:25:41
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I'm dead serious. He deserves a redemption. His appearance was marred by the whole Will Smith thing. like Give the guy another chance to have his own moment. I don't remember a single thing from his host ability of that year other than the moment.
00:25:59
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And if you don't know what moment we're talking about, we're talking about the infamous Will Smith moment. Uh-oh, Richard. Uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh.
00:26:09
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Here's my number one pick. You guys ready? Yeah. John Mulaney.
00:26:15
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I think John Mulaney would absolutely kill it as the Oscars host. I think he has an appreciation for the art form, and I think he can play into a crowd really well. comedians I was going to say, career ran parallel, but I think John Mulaney would just have a little bit more of a zazz to him, of but of a zigzag.
00:26:38
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That's my pick. ah manifesting John Mulaney.
00:26:47
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Writing for adapted and original musical score, animated feature film, directing, cinematography, actor in a leading role and supporting actress in a leading role and supporting. And of course, best picture.
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So we will talk through some of the options that we have, the reasons to why we're putting certain people or films in their, in their respective categories, and then decide as a podcast, what we think is going to happen in the future.
00:27:18
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And we'll be right because we have the site. We have the site. That should be our tagline as a podcast. Lost in the frame. We have the site.
00:27:28
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I like it. No? All right. No, one I don't. Okay. yeah No, I liked it. It wasn't funny because it was it was real. It was truthful. Thank you. The truth isn't funny. The truth is serious. so The truth is serious.
00:27:41
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Let's start. Anyone else is serious? What? Who do you guys think is going to win or get nominated for best visual effects? All right. i
00:27:53
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What happened to you, Malik? What do you mean? No, never mind.
00:28:01
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Let's just move on. Taji's sight saw too far into the future. Something incredible. Something happens. I'm like watching my back.
00:28:10
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A car blows through the window. Oh, real quick. Speaking of sight, I did watch the new Final Destination movie the other day. Great. Yeah, you rated it really highly. It's good.
00:28:22
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It's such a fun time. Like, it's hilarious. it's it was a really It was a really fun watch. Interesting. Like, actually hilarious? Yeah. Or just hilarious in the context of the world with people dying horrible deaths?
00:28:37
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I think actually hilarious and hilarious in the context of people dying horrible deaths. Okay. Interesting. Best visual effects. I think where we should start is...
00:28:48
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Of what you have seen so far, what has been the standout? i would say, i think Fantastic Four would be nominated.
00:29:01
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Sinners. I think what they did with ah Michael B. Jordan was really, really cool. oh I think that's a really good pick. Wow, I actually didn't and even think of that. I think that kind of speaks to... How great of a job they did.
00:29:14
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Because I forget. i was watching it the other day and I'm just like, it's two of them. like They do feel like two completely separate characters. I like Sinners as a nomination. Michael A and Michael B. Yep. um I mean, the visual effect of The Hog in 28 Years Later is certainly crazy.
00:29:31
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um I'm not sure that would garner enough of an Oscar nomination. What have I seen? I mean... Superman? Superman? No, maybe.
00:29:50
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I don't know. I think out honestly, outside 28 years later, i haven't been like super blown away by anything. Superman I liked. I didn't love it. I wasn't like this is heads and shoulders above like the Fantastic Four, for instance.
00:30:03
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This does also have to be not just what we liked. It's also what we think will get nominated. So even if we don't agree. And that's the problem because, i mean, well, what I think, think we can all pencil in Avatar, Fire, and Ash for visual effects. Yep, most likely. I think that's when we can pencil in there.
00:30:23
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And then looking forward as well, at least stuff that I'm excited to see. i don't know. Nothing that really jumps off the screen. How are the visuals for Minecraft?
00:30:34
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They were actually, and for what they were going for, unfortunately, it was pretty good. That's a shame. The scene, the Steve's Lava chicken scene, like I hate to say it, but chicken actually looked good.
00:30:45
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Like it it looked yummy. I wanted to eat it. Do we think that it could get nominated? All right. Put Superman on there. Okay. You know what?
00:30:56
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Give me the Minecraft movie. Okay. So we are doing five picks for each category as they are in the real world. We've got Sinners, Avatar, Fire, and Ash, Superman, the Minecraft movie.
00:31:11
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I'm going to throw Ares. That's what was to say too. Okay. Oh, I don't even know why I didn't think of that. Yeah. Yeah. The trailer already looks visually stunning, minus Jared Leto's face.
00:31:26
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But he doesn't have to do anything with visual effects. So I think we'd be safe there. His visual is going to have an effect, though.
00:31:35
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Superman, Minecraft, Tron. We feel solid with that? Sure. We locking it in? The Minecraft pick is going to be like...
00:31:46
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Nails on a chalkboard. tiktock haters It really is. This, like we said, we're not endorsed this just because they're on this list. Doesn't mean we endorse it. I think that we just want to be accurate. You know what? We're just going to go with, with rage bait engagement farming.
00:32:00
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So keep my ah number two movie at the end of the year for all of us is going to be Minecraft. Number two from the bottom.
00:32:12
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All right. Visual effects. To recap, we've got Sinners, Avatar, Fire, and Ash, Superman, Minecraft, and Tron Ares. I feel good with that. I feel good, too. All right.
00:32:23
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Next. Do you guys want to do writing for Adapted and Original, or do you want to pick one? Because I'm not sure what's Adapted and what's Original. Okay. All right. Adapted is the easiest one to pick at least one for, and it's one battle after another, Adapted from Thomas Pynchon's Vine Land.
00:32:41
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Good pick. I think Hamnet could be... For adapted? Yeah. Okay.
00:32:51
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I trust Chloe Zhao. Hamnet. And we will... should we Whenever we bring up a movie that hasn't come up, should we give a quick blurb about it? Yeah, I'm cool with that. Because I think this will also be a good episode to like make you, the listener, aware of what's coming out for the rest of the year and maybe what to keep an eye out for.
00:33:11
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I like that. I like that. Okay. Tachi, do you want to tell us about Hamnet? Yes, it is historical drama directed by Chloe Zhao. It is based off of a fictional story about the life of William Shakespeare and his wife, Agnes Shakespeare, following the death of their 11-year-old son, Hamnet.
00:33:34
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Hamnet's a crazy name, by the way. Hamnet probably went so hard in the 1600s. Oh my God, there goes Hamnet. There he is. There's the big man. He's so dreamy. Dolph Travel's ye largest friend.
00:33:54
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All right. We got one battle after another. Hamnet. Let's see what else we got for Adapted. um Smashing Machine. Great pick.
00:34:05
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I like that. Frankenstein? Ooh. Ooh. I like that pick. Very good pick. I like that a lot. Frankenstein. like it so much that I consulted the site and it said, you know ball.
00:34:22
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I do like Del Toro. I don't love him, but I can respect his appreciation for but the art. He's also an Oscars guy. They like him a lot.
00:34:33
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They like him a lot. So I think we'll see Frankenstein in a number of these categories for sure. Maybe even for visual effects. But we've already locked in our picks because the site told us so.
00:34:45
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Here's the thing with... Don't bet on Frankenstein. Here's the thing with visual effects with Frankenstein. Not that it's not going to have any, but I did just read an article the other day saying Del Toro was very persistent in having full sets built. He wanted realism throughout.
00:34:59
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Thank God. I don't know if the lack of visual effects for that movie... It's going to lend its hand because I think it's... I'm hoping that's going be a great movie. I don't know if that would... be able to be like compared to like a Tron Aries.
00:35:12
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you know what i mean?
00:35:15
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But it could be a surprise. Who knows? We'll see. We'll see. What else is adapted? Is that adapted? I don't think that's an Oscar worthy screenplay though. Do you?
00:35:28
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No, but and I'm just, I'm just, I'm just thinking of full of hype moments and aura. Like that, that, it It didn't do like Top Gun Maverick numbers. So I think it's not going to be on there. If F1 didn't, as well as F1 did, it didn't save cinema.
00:35:42
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I agree with you, but I'm just thinking in the mind of the Oscars. But I don't think that it would You don't think they would do it? Like, I just, i I am thinking that too. I don't think it's an Oscar type movie. Okay. It didn't, like, it did really well, but it kind of feels like it just sort of came and went.
00:35:59
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Everyone's like, oh, that was really fun. and And that was kind of about it. I mean, I think it will be on the list. I would pick it on the list and think that it will be somewhere in the nominations, because especially with like cinematography, because of basically what they did filming in F1 race. I mean, that was all practical effects and yeah you know interesting camera shots and stuff like that. So I think it will be in the Oscars, but definitely not for screenplay. There's nothing in that screenplay that screams this can be nominated for an Academy Award.
00:36:34
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Screenplay categories are usually, I think, chock full of like weird stuff, which is a good thing. I think they're usually like the more verbose screenplays.
00:36:45
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How do you feel about Mickey 17? Is that adapted? No, that's adapted. it's ah It's a book. I know it really didn't. it is adapted. It really didn't. It didn't make a big splash like in the box office or um culturally.
00:36:59
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I think that's because it was it released in January in theaters, I believe. So that one honestly also kind of came and went. But I mean, this is Bong Joon-ho's first movie since Parasite.
00:37:11
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So I don't know if they would kind of maybe give him the nod at least. I think it just it flopped too hard. You think so? I think so. Yeah. and we do we Do we have to have five?
00:37:26
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It's really hard because we just we've only really seen like half the movies that are going to be qualified. I think for certain categories, it's going to be a lot harder to put a full five. Yeah. then I think this is one of them.
00:37:38
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um Okay. i think I feel solid with the four that we have. Yeah, it's okay. Okay.
00:37:45
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So we've got original one battle after another. Hamnet, the Smashing Machine, and Frankenstein locked in for Adapted. Yep. All right. Let's go Original. We'll do four for this one as well to keep it even.
00:38:00
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I think we'll see Bugonia. The new Yorgos Lanthimos. Ugh. Adapted. Why didn't we think of it? Bugonia?
00:38:11
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War of the Worlds for Adapted. Shut up.
00:38:17
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Alex dropped his phone and like had his hands up like he really just... like The site spoke to him. It did. It said... It's peak. It said, it's you!
00:38:29
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it said the script... It's you! Join the rebellion and support bad movies.
00:38:38
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Anyway, vote Bugonia for original. The new Bugonia is the new Yorgos Lanthimos movie. um If you're familiar with Yorgos Lanthimos, he has done the most recent movie he did was Poor Things.
00:38:53
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This one starring Alicia Silverstone, Emma Stone, and Jesse Plemons. Two conspiracy obsessed young men kidnapped the high powered CEO of a major company convinced that she is an alien intent on destroying planet Earth.
00:39:07
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Did you know that Ari Aster is producing this movie? Is he really? Yep. All right. I was already in, but now I'm seated. This is actually adapted.
00:39:18
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It is? It is an English language remake of the 2003 South Korean film Save the Green Planet.
00:39:28
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This is adapted. Interesting. So we're going to stick it up as our fifth for adapted and move on to the original screenplay. We got it All right, give me your original picks. What do you think?
00:39:41
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I think we need to screen them before we lock them in because clearly clearly we're we're not good at picking out the difference. Do you think Sinners will make this?
00:39:53
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I'm kind of torn on on this nomination. i think ah you know what? um um I'm comfortable with putting centers on it. Okay. It was really big.
00:40:04
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Whether people liked it or not, it was huge. It is huge. It has, and it still has a ton of weight being thrown to it. Yeah. And Ryan Coogler has done historically well at Oscars.
00:40:16
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So I think this being like a big, huge original movie for him is going to draw some nominations I could see original. I do think we're going to see sinners and maybe even weapons pop up a few times in the Oscars, which is going to be really cool to see two original horror movies get this kind of stage.
00:40:38
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Agreed. ah Agreed. All right. We got sinners for our first one. Is Marty Supreme an adaptation? think that's original, but I'm not sure.
00:40:51
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Hey, Grok, is Marty Supreme an original screenplay?
00:40:56
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Beep, beep, beep, beep. It appears so, Malik. I'd put it. I'd be down that. We all like Timmy. We all like Timmy. all like the Safdies.
00:41:08
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Yeah, it looks like this is an original movie. All right. Sinners, Marty Supreme. I see Jay Kelly coming up a lot. I have not seen Marriage Story, so I don't know anything about Noah Baumbach.
00:41:22
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have you and I didn't realize that was Noah Baumbach. I didn't realize it was him either. Purely for that reason. Good call out. purely for that reason good call out All right, Jay Kelly. Let's read what this one's about. Director Noah Baumbach, starring George Clooney, Adam Sandler, and Laura Dern.
00:41:40
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Famous movie actor Jay Kelly and his devoted manager Ron embark on a whirlwind and unexpectedly profound journey. Both are forced to confront choices they've made, the relationships with loved ones, and the legacies they leave behind.
00:41:51
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Oh, this is trying so hard. Yep. um This seems like the one. George Klooners, Adam Sandler, Laura Dern, and Billy Crudup.
00:42:03
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I think this one might pop up a couple more times in our predictions then. I like that grouping. I do too. It's Netflix, so I think this might be Netflix's push. You think so?
00:42:14
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Yeah. Because I've actually heard a lot about this one. I didn't realize it was Netflix. I didn't realize Noah Baumbach was Baumbach. Baumbach.
00:42:24
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Good burn. Four hours of sleep, guys. Please cut me some slack. That is a good burn. If this movie sucks, call him Noah Baumbach. Anyway, you were saying you think that this is going to be Netflix's push?
00:42:38
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Yeah, because I'm trying to see what else they're doing. Over Frankenstein? is Frankenstein Netflix 2? It is. God. Yes, I think it will.
00:42:50
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I do think they'd go with the coming-of-age drama. seems like Oscar bait. yeah Yeah, over the freak monster movie.
00:42:59
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God, you're freak. Compliment, by the way.
00:43:05
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wonder if we're gonna... wonder if Frankenstein's gonna add to our our hog list. Oh, frankenhagen yeah good potench i like that i think i think you're you're gifted with the site as well wow What a day. Toshi has line of sight on Hog.
00:43:30
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Yeah, I'm really up to date on Hog Watch. Let's go. I'm so proud of you. Thank you. um What about Rental Family? That's Brendan Fraser in Japan, right? Yes.
00:43:42
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Yeah, I bet. Yeah.
00:43:45
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I'll put it. I like it. I like it. Who is that one? do you guys have that one up? i don't I don't think I put that one in this list. um Who's that one written by? Yeah, let me check. Rental Family.
00:43:56
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Directed Hikari. Sick. Just Hikari, yep.
00:44:05
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Who wrote this one? It looks like it was written by... ah car and Stephen Blatt. is Hikari? Blatt. ahka and stephen blu yeah block who is hikari but A Japanese filmmaker and former actress.
00:44:19
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She's best known for writing, directing, and producing the film 37 Seconds and directing three episodes of the Netflix series Beef. Yes. Lock this in. This is getting nominated for her o something.
00:44:32
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Good point. I really like the teaser poster. Because he his his character's playing just an American actor working in Japan as like the token white guy in Japanese commercials.
00:44:45
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And the teaser poster is just like an advertisement. And he's on it, I guess, with the rest of the cast or the main cast. I sure hope this is like the spiritual sequel to Lost in Translation.
00:44:57
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Token American guy in Japanese ads. Would be a fun time. And it's heartbreaking and soul crushing. Never seen it. This has potential, guys. Yeah. This really has potential. i Yeah, I'm excited. Ooh, I just got the chills.
00:45:11
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Ooh, yeah, listed as a comedy drama. And we love Brandon Fraser. We do. All right. We got him down. That's... Okay, yeah.
00:45:22
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We started at four. We got one more in the and the gun? Was that not five? We got Sinners, Marty Supreme, Jay Kelly, and Rental Family. God help us. Ooh, wait, what is this? Is this thing on?
00:45:36
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What about Eddington? Do you think Eddington gets nominated for anything? I don't think they will. they I don't think Ari Aster has ever made an appearance at the Oscars, if I'm not mistaken, and I don't think it's going to be with Eddington.
00:45:49
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I think that's...
00:45:52
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Stupid. I agree. Especially for her. Hereditary Midsommar should have had something that dragged him out there. People at least like at the very least, Tony Collette for Hereditary. Yeah. Should have been nominated. Agreed.
00:46:06
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The world is in agreeance. If one day we can. The world should war for Ari Aster. Nice. ah Some kind of war of the worlds. um I don't think this would be a good nomination, but I am just now hearing about this movie.
00:46:19
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Is this thing on? ah Starring... Who is that? ah Will Arnett and Bradley Cooper. Also written by both of them.
00:46:31
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um Oh, Bradley Cooper. He's trying again. He's trying again. Laura Dern's busy. But it is a comedy, so I don't know how well comedies do.
00:46:44
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but I'm going to laugh if he pulls in an Oscar for this one and not like him trying so hard for an Oscar for Maestro. and Maybe this is him kind of... Shilling out.
00:46:57
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Yeah. Not shilling out, but kind of like pumping the brakes a little bit. I feel like he was shilling out with whatever that other one was called. maestro Maestro. Maybe this is him like trying to relax a little bit and be like, you know what?
00:47:08
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Let's let off the gas a bit. Calls up Will Arnett. I got this movie. It's this. I like this. I like this. What's it about? Let's see. After many years together, two characters, Alex and Tess, have reached an amicable end to their marriage, thus beginning the awkward stage of figuring out how to live separately while raising two boys and maintaining their friendships.
00:47:34
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um The husband, Alex, discovers a new hobby and in the process learns more about himself and his relationship. Minus 300 odds that the cuck chair appears in this movie. I'll take that bet.
00:47:46
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Me too. You mentioned Laura Dern, right? That she's in this? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, she plays ah Will Arnett's ex-wife, I guess. How do we see Will Arnett as a leading man that's not animated Batman?
00:47:59
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I don't. Okay. I think that's it. like I love Will Arnett. Me too. I think he's hilarious. What are you doing here? He just feels like a solid ah like side actor.
00:48:16
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He's like one of those guys that like appears and stuff and you're like, oh, nice. That's fair. And you move on. He does have a great voice, though. He really does voice it.
00:48:29
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He's like one of the few like actors where it's like he's a voice acting something. I'm like, that's a plus. A lot of the times just like, oh, this just sounds like. You know, whoever voice acting.
00:48:41
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Take a look at Banner, Michael.
00:48:50
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ah So we're just not going to pick a fifth movie. Do we? I mean, we can throw that one in there for shits and geeks. Sure. Yeah, we spent a enough time talking about it. All right. Is this thing on?
00:49:02
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All right. Moving on. Score is kind of hard. Score is the hardest to do without hearing it, but I think... Because the score could be anything.
00:49:15
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Yeah. It could be, like, fart noises, for all we know. Something real avant-garde. Alt-score for sinners, just fart noises. Yeah, I hate to to bring sinners up again, but...
00:49:28
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It did have a good score. Sinner should be nominated for this. yeah And it's also going to be nominated for best original song. I agree. And it's going to win for best original song. I would actually, i would feel confident, like memes aside, like I'm i'm taking the mask off and being serious.
00:49:43
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I would feel confident putting money on that.
00:49:47
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that The Irish Jigsaw? No, the one that the the kid plays. The barn burn down scene. Oh, god i got it, got it. Okay. You know, okay, I'll say this.
00:49:58
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Let's save score and original song for the end of the year. Okay. We can retroactively maybe fill in the rest of the categories that we didn't hit to. So that way we have a chance to at least see some of these.
00:50:10
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Also, Tron Aries going be on it. I don't make the rules, sorry. Nine Inch Nails doing a soundtrack. That's true. We got two.
00:50:21
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We can move on to animated feature film. Sure. Kind of slim pickings here, so I feel like we'll be pretty quick. I'm going to say what I was thinking for this, and I want you guys to disagree with me and you hear anything.
00:50:36
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Elio, Zootopia 2, Arco, K-pop Demon Hunter. Yeah.
00:50:46
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I'm hanging out on a fifth. I like those. Can we include that Chinese movie, Nezha 2? Yes. Good pick. I want to see that, but I haven't seen Nezha 1. Me neither.
00:51:02
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There's a joke there. Somewhere. I feel it. Me too. There used to be someone smarter than me can come up yeah the site is blurry right now, but I can see the outline.
00:51:14
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Okay, recap. We had Elio, Zootopia 2. What else? Arco. Arco. The franime. K-pop. And then Neja 2.
00:51:27
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Yup. right, moving on. Solid. I like that one. All right, fellas. We're in the directing category. this is where it's This is also a tough one to direct without having to see it. That's true, but I think we can do it.
00:51:42
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I think we see Kugler for Sinners. Yeah. Yes. For sure. Depending on j Kelly, probably Noah Bombach.
00:51:54
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has he directed i'm mainly familiar with him as a writer has he directed yeah he directed marriage story he did direct marriage story okay okay i wasn't sure i didn't know yeah okay he also directed francis hall i think that was when him and greta were together yeah okay think yorgos is gonna make it or del toro oh okay we got one for you we got some choices here go ahead peak pta oh true do the oscars like pta They nominated Licorice Pizza for Best Picture when it came out. That's true. That's true. Was he nominated for Best Director? let me Let me do some research. Okay.
00:52:32
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Yeah, let me know yeah let me know if he's if he was directed back then. Jamie, pull it up. I think they like Chloe Zhao too, right? They do like Chloe Zhao. Chloe Zhao won. Yeah, Chloe Zhao did win for Nomadland in 2021. Yeah, when it's right that's right that's right. Yeah, so... Yeah, don't you remember Oscar-winning director Chloe Zhao directs Eternals?
00:52:49
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I I've been thinking about the turtles a lot. I rewatched it the other day. ah i think this past weekend. I still really like it. I remember I think it's a good movie. Me with the last Jedi.
00:53:02
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Yeah, but one of you may be right because I haven't seen a turn. And one of you is just beyond wrong.
00:53:10
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yeah Yeah, I yeah. I will always defend the journals. I'll just put it that way. and Okay.
00:53:20
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2019 best director. No, Madeline. Are you talking about PTA? PTA. I put Chloe Zhao for directing. Wait, where's the best director? I just saw it. Where did it go? Okay, there it is.
00:53:36
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Yeah, PTA was nominated for best directing for Licorice Pizza, along with Jane Campion for The Power of the Dog, who won. um Kenneth Branagh for Belfast. Ryosuke Hamaguchi for Drive My Car and Steven Spielberg for West Side Story.
00:53:55
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PTA is Paul Thomas Anderson, by the way, for those who may not be aware. ah No, actually, it stands for Parent Teacher Association. Oh, sorry. You do have the true sight.
00:54:08
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I think the Parent Teacher Association really went hard with adapting a Thomas Pynchon novel about counterculture and revolutionaries. um Good for them. If that's where our tax dollars are going, I'm cool with it.
00:54:25
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like the way you said that. Yeah, I do too. Alright, we got Ryan Coogler, Chloe Zhao, PTA. We need two more. Ooh, Luca... I was just about to say, for After the Hunt? yeah Yeah. yes yeah there I'm there.
00:54:42
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Ooh, After the Hunt for best original.
00:54:47
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Did we? no but I don't think that it would for this one. We're going back real quick to original. Me neither. do we want to replace Is This Thing On with After the Hunt? One of the safeties gets nominated. i think our safe money yeah i think the safe money
00:55:10
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the one who directed smashing machine which is yeah benny um I feel like the Smashing Machine, i think, is a safer bet because
00:55:20
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we know they both have this. We think they both have this. He's got a great cast as Smashing Machine an adaptation off of Oh, i can't wait to get to the actors. So I think that's the easier of the All right, we got Luca as our fourth pick.
00:55:33
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You have a little bit of a framework you can lean on because you do have the documentary. And from um a source that I have, the documentary looks a lot like... The scenes in the trailer look a lot like the scenes in the documentary. Because they're kind of framed the same way.
00:55:51
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And... I haven't seen the documentary, so I can't confirm it. But um they do love, they being the Oscars, um not the Illuminati, um do love biopics.
00:56:08
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Yep. And I think if you're going to pick one of the two that's like, what do we think is going to happen? I think it's the biopic. Yeah. Without having seen either.
00:56:19
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Great argument. I'm on board. Let me check one thing before we lock that one in. Here's what I'm checking. Sentimental Value, directed by Joaquin Trier, who was nominated for, he also wrote The Worst Person in the World.
00:56:38
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He was nominated for Best Original Screenplay with that film three years ago. It's got a really good cast, and this year it did receive the Grand Prix at Cannes.
00:56:49
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So I'm just going to check to see if Joaquin Trier... Was nominated for a Best Director. I don't know that I've seen any of his movies. He has not.
00:57:02
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So I will rest my case. What is the Grand Prix? Is that like a runner-up or what? I think the Grand Prix is the runner-up behind the Palme d'Or. Got it. If I'm not mistaken. Chat, let me know if I'm wrong.
00:57:15
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So we want to put Benny Safdie. Consulting the site. The site says grip it and rip it. Grippied. Got it.
00:57:27
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I'm excited to see a battle of the Safdies. I think they'll both be good.
00:57:32
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I think so too. and the I'm very excited for both of these for different reasons. I really hope this isn't a Cohen situation where it's like one got that the the sum of the parts is better than the ah individual components because so far I'm not thrilled with
00:57:51
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What I've seen from our singular Cohen. I ah have not seen drive away dolls. I do have tickets to see honey. Don't this weekend. I'm going to try to watch both. Let us know.
00:58:03
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All right. Yeah. All right. Directing is locked in recap. Ryan Coogler for sinners. Chloe Zhao for Hamnet PTA Paul Thomas Anderson for one battle after another.
00:58:15
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Luca Guadagnino for after the hunt and Benny Safdie for the smashing machine.
00:58:21
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cool I like that. I like that too. I like that a lot.
00:58:27
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We're doing good. We're breezing through this. I could see both Safdies in over PTA. but we'll see no i i don't think pta is like an oscars guy he's a he's an oscars darling he's their bread and butter he's like their rpo you know you just pull it out when you need it that that's a play you can run my fantasy football draft tomorrow is tomorrow listeners um i got football in the brain good luck thank you cinematography hit on
00:58:59
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head on f one Hmm. I'm going to put F1 down, and then by the end of this category, if I see some others, I might make a rebuttal. Well, just take it off, okay? You don't like it. You hate me. You hate my picks.
00:59:14
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I put F1. It's there. It's there. Your car movie is there, Alex. It's okay. Call me ugly. You're ugly. Oh, my God.
00:59:31
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The funny thing so far with this conversation, I feel like we have been pretty heavy on what hasn't even been released yet.
00:59:41
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Purely based off of hype. None of it feels like an Oscars movie. For the list for already released, obviously this isn't every single movie that's come out this year. But looking at what has come out this year, do you guys agree or see anything missing from the list of what's already released? Or does this seem like...
00:59:59
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The ones that have been talked about the most. The ones that are the most. yeah Yeah. like I think of all of the heavy hitters so far, I haven't seen any of them, for at least that I've seen, been getting press from the awards cycle.
01:00:12
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It's a very back half-heavy year. yeahp We're going to be very busy. um Honestly, the only one that I think should be nominated out of what I've seen so far, or have like multiple nominations, um besides like a one-off, is Warfare, and that is not an Oscars movie.
01:00:29
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they're they We all hope that it gets sound design. It should get sound design. If it gets anything other than that, I'll be stoked. Seriously. Agreed.
01:00:41
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Yep. will say Frankenstein for our first cinematography. I like that. I like that.
01:00:53
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I would like to throw in Hamnet as well. Vibes or Vibes and also just Chloe Zhao's
01:01:04
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ah resume. Fair. let's I feel like Chloe Zhao is pretty good. Let me see who the cinematographer for Hamna. Is it Chloe? No, it's Lucas Zoll.
01:01:18
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Lucas Zoll. Okay. What is Lucas? Lucas
01:01:23
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Known for Ida. Zone of interest. Oh, he shot the zone of interest and he shot I'm thinking of ending things. That's yeah. I think that's solid. Fire that one up in the cinematography. All right.
01:01:35
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How do we feel about one battle after another? Because I don't think that will get cinematography, at least based off what I've seen in the trailer. As excited as I am for that movie, I don't think that's a cinematography. I don't think that i don't need so either. Cinematography.
01:01:51
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I'm curious on Die My Love. Let's look at the cinematography. What is that? For this one. Die My Love? i am What about Tron Aries?
01:02:03
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um I think it's going to get the visual effects nod, so I don't think it would get cinematography. Die My Love is shot by Seamus McGarvey. He has collected two Academy Award nominations for cinematography for Atonement and Anna Karenina.
01:02:21
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k karenina Anna karina Karenina. Karenina. That's like one of the most famous novels of all time. So he this cinematographer picked up some nominations, but this the latest one was 2012. The one before that, Atonement, was in 2007. Yeah.
01:02:37
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That one's kind of a toss up depending on
01:02:42
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what else we get. Anna Karenina. I haven't seen any of the film adaptations of it. It's going be worth watch one day. Problem is that book's like a thousand pages long and the movie's like an hour and 30 minutes.
01:02:58
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There's no way that they cover the whole thing in the movie. Oh wait, who is attached to Jay Kelly again? Let's see. Who's the Linus Sandgren?
01:03:12
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hold on. Director of photography for what I just say. Jay Kelly. Yeah.
01:03:21
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Oh, Linus Sandgren. He did. La Land. h First man, Babylon. Oh, and so this man just cooks will be attached to Dune part three.
01:03:35
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This is the cinematographer for Dune. It looks like it. Everybody stand up and salute because we are so back. Yes, it is him. You did it. That is, I'm with it.
01:03:47
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All right, Linus. This was after the hunt. Um, Jake. Sorry. Jake. Kelly. Jake. Kelly. Yeah. All right. ah Based off the synopsis of Jay Kelly, this seems like a very different movie from these past ones that he shot.
01:04:02
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But I think that's what might make it very interesting. Agreed. I like that pick. One more. I'm throwing my hat in for Die My Love. I think it's a long shot.
01:04:15
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but I'm happy to, I welcome rebuttals. If not that, uh, I'm going to do it again. we pitch sinners again? You think it is a pretty movie.
01:04:30
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You know what? It is a pretty movie. And Coogler had like part of his entire press run, just talking about like the actual format of the movie and how important it was.
01:04:42
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Um, For the movie to be shot on film.
01:04:49
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You know, we went into this saying like, oh, Sinners isn't, because the Variety article that inspired this episode had Sinners getting 13 noms and we're all like, there's no way. I think Sinners is leading our nominations right now.
01:05:02
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I think so too. Wow. As a pod, do we want to put c Sinners in cinematography?
01:05:11
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More like cinematography. Get that bad boy on there. Let's go. that was really good. I'm also thinking, and this kind of goes hand in hand with like directing and cinematography, but the one shot of the juke joint kind of cements that this choice in this category for me.
01:05:31
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What about 28 years with their iPhone thing? oh Does that be F1 being on cars? I was, oh man.
01:05:42
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Oh man. i don't know. What do you, what do you think? That was a good suggestion, but what are your actual thoughts with that? I think about to cry.
01:05:54
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um want to see F1 get a nom for the camera work for Cause thought that was great. The racing sequences were so well done. They really were. They were. I was, I think I told you guys, but I was watching some behind the scenes on like how they shot it and like interviews with the cinematographer, the way that they modded these cars to hold these cameras that Sony had made specifically for the movie was so cool.
01:06:16
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Like they had shit, like they had like wires, like embedded in the frame of the car to be able to like wirely control them and have them on the track. It was awesome. Yeah. That sounds sick.
01:06:29
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I'm going, I'm going to say we can keep F1 over 28 years later. And I'm pissed because I love 28 years later more than F1. What about over Frankenstein?
01:06:42
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Franken hog or 28 inches of hog.
01:06:50
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Which one comes out on top for cinemahography?
01:06:56
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And maybe you should get four hours of sleep more often. You're ripping bangers right now. you're doing great. Alex is cooking today. It's the one shiner I had. ah What do you think, Tachi?
01:07:12
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Between Frankenstein and 28 years later? Something we've seen and something we haven't seen. I do like mystery boxes.
01:07:21
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But 28 years later was pretty nice.
01:07:26
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I'm thinking of the ah the beach scene. Yeah. Yeah. yeah Do we want to put 28 over Frankenstein? And do we... We have a half of a year to revise it, guys.
01:07:37
Speaker
Let's throw 28 years on there. Sure. It's not because I'm a Danny Boyle stan. 28 years later, you have replaced Frankenstein. Four for horror.
01:07:49
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All right. Recap our cinematography picks. F1, 28 years later. Hamnet, J. Kelly, and Sinners. Interesting list. Very interesting. Very different.
01:08:01
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Two horror picks on this. Yeah. I think we're reaching. i think so too. But I like it This is us. Okay. We're moving on to the actor category.
01:08:12
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Actor in and a supporting role. Someone had said something earlier, but I don't know if that might have been for actress. That was for actress. That was for actress.
01:08:23
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Okay, actor in a supporting role because we were robbed of it the first time we had a chance for it. Adam Sandler, J. Kelly. I'm for it. This is also a Manifestation episode, as you recall. so Does Stellan Skarsgรฅrd have any wins or nominations?
01:08:42
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I think he's got noms. He's got noms for sure. Maybe this could be his his legacy What he in? He's in Sentimental Value. Okay. I like it. I'm solid with that.
01:08:53
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Aren't all the scars guards in that one? I'm not sure. have a pick. I have a pick. One second. I have a pick. might go Benicio del Toro for one battle after another.
01:09:10
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Oh, I like that. I like that. Okay. Wait, him or Sean pin
01:09:16
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Based on the book so far, I'm going to go Sean Penn.
01:09:21
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but The book is, i don't even think Benicio de Toro's character is in Vineland. He's added? Do you think he's just like i think a very minor character? There's someone who I think could be him.
01:09:36
Speaker
But I'm um'm having, like, it's just a good guess. But from what I've seen, the characters are so fundamentally different. It might just be like a ah nice little callback. I will say, i based off of the trailer...
01:09:48
Speaker
Sean Penn definitely seems like the antagonist of the movie. I think he's going to have more screen time than Benicio Del Toro. I think Del Toro will be in it for a very small part of the movie as like a friend.
01:10:02
Speaker
Sean Penn's character has a lot of gravitas when he's not like... Like with... on screen in the book.
01:10:12
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um But like hearing his name and like hearing about him is like, whoa, like that guy's... like He's legit. like you know we're we're He is mess.
01:10:23
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I'm hoping that he replicates it in the movie. I'm going Sean Penn on Battle After Another. i feel good with that pick. Second pick. I'm going Jeremy Strong for Springsteen.
01:10:37
Speaker
Yep. ye I like that. What if but if we did another Sinners pick? Who would you pick? Jack O'Connell. thought you were going to say Michael A. Jordan.
01:10:49
Speaker
Michael A. Jordan. As much as I love that pick. Wait. Could Michael B. Jordan be nominated for both supporting and leading? Is it possible? No.
01:11:03
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Is Stack a supporting character? Because Smoke is the lead, clearly, of the two. No. The Oscars aren't that cool. But could it happen?
01:11:15
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No. but Should it happen? No.
01:11:21
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Who are we talking about just now, right after Jeremy Strong? Someone said something. Jack O'Connell. Oh, also But that was like a meme pic. Okay, okay. What about Jack O'Connell and 28 Years Later?
01:11:35
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Not sinners. 28 years later, for sure. What about Andrew Garfield in After the Hunt? All right. Maybe. Maybe.
01:11:47
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Maybe. if we can't find If we can't find another, I like the Andrew Garfield pick. what about What about Nathan Fillion for Superman? about Jack Black in the Minecraft movie?
01:12:00
Speaker
What about Roderick from Diary of a Wimpy Kid in War of the Worlds? I'm thinking Stitch from Lilo and Stitch. I'm thinking the CPS agent in Lilo Stitch.
01:12:14
Speaker
What about Paul Mescal in Hamnet? I think that's a leading role. Oh. He's Shakespeare. Oh, true, true, true, true. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What about... Paul Mescal or...
01:12:30
Speaker
who um Josh O'Connor. Which one of those... like Whoever one of those two for supporting for... What's the movie called there? It's like The Sound of Something.
01:12:45
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The Sound of Metal? No. Yeah, it's it's coming back for another round. We're resubmitting it. Um...
01:12:55
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Josh O'Connor. Because I feel like there's always one that's like not really nominated for a lot of other stuff that ends up in there. The History of Sound, that's it.
01:13:06
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So think Josh O'Connor for the History of Sound? Whoever the... Yeah, let's go Josh O'Connor because he just listed second. So he's probably this 40.
Impact of Movie Nominations
01:13:16
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I agree with you that there's always at least one nomination in these categories for movie that I feel really didn't make that big of a splash.
01:13:25
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I think last year it was Angelina Jolie in a leading role for what was the name of that movie? Maria? If I'm mistaken with the opera singer.
01:13:36
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Never even heard of the history of sound. Two young music students, Lionel and David, attending the Boston Conservatory in 1917, bond over their shared love of folk music. They reconnect a few years later, embarking on a song collecting trip in the backwaters of Maine.
01:13:51
Speaker
Oh, and they kiss. is paul do kiss. Is Paul Mezcal the leading in that one? Yes. Okay. I okay i feel cool with Josh O'Connor then. Kiss. Let's go.
01:14:04
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We could be on hog watch for that one. We could be. All right. To recap our supporting actor, we have Adam Sandler and Jay Kelly, Stellan Skarsgรฅrd and sentimental value, Sean Penn in one battle after another, Jeremy strong and Springsteen. Thank you for fixing my mistake there.
01:14:18
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Joshua Connor in the history of sound. Cool. All right. Do we want to do supporting actress first? Cause I feel like supporting is a little bit more difficult. We could run through leading.
01:14:30
Speaker
Let's do it. All right. Supporting actress. Ayo Adebri, after the hunt. Yep. Okay, we got a multiple picture. My girl. Ayo. I don't know how to spell your her last name, so I'm just going to put Ayo. E-D-E-B-R-E.
01:14:45
Speaker
Laura Dern for something. One of the two she is in. Is she in J. Kelly and the Will Arnett movie? Yeah. Do you think Emily Blunt in... That's I was going to say.
01:14:59
Speaker
in smashing machine is going to be counted as a leading actress i think she'll be supporting supporting i think she'll be supporting yeah do you guys feel good with laura dern for j kelly yeah i feel good with laura dern i feel good with emily blunt emily blunt for the smashing machine i have a feeling we're going to get another one battle after another because there's a pretty strong cast of supporting actresses for this tiana taylor what if we go wild card and pick chase infinity Is that the daughter? Yeah.
01:15:27
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Ooh. If I had to pick between the two, I'd go Tiana. As more likely. Not, you know, as a better actor.
01:15:39
Speaker
I don't actually know them very well. I've seen Chase Infinity in one thing. Malik, did you watch um the Jake Gyllenhaal TV show on Apple? I did not. Reasonable Doubt or something? No.
01:15:53
Speaker
She's in that. She's good? it's I think it's worth the watch. Jake Gyllenhaal, I think, outacts everybody. By far. In general or in the show?
01:16:05
Speaker
In the show. There's like one guy who it's like, are you kidding me? It's like when you're going up against Jake Gyllenhaal and you're doing this. He just looks small. Let's table it. Let's table it till after we see one battle after another. Let's be children.
01:16:19
Speaker
What about be scaredy cats? L fanning and sentiments value. I'm OK with that. OK, I like that. L fanning in the new Predator movie. Oh, yes.
01:16:32
Speaker
That would be cool. That would be so much gore. All right, we've got four A.O., Laura, Emily and L. That's a crazy name, just L.
01:16:44
Speaker
Well, it's spelled L-E. What? E-L-L-E. Yeah, but but it's L. Yeah, but it's spelled L-E. Well, because you can't name your kid one letter. You could. good Elon Musk named his kid a password.
01:16:59
Speaker
Many such cases. Next one's going to be Wingdings.
01:17:05
Speaker
Wingdings Musk. I'm going bully that kid. All right, for our fifth one, let's pick one of these for one battle after another. Flip a coin. Chase or Tiana. All right.
01:17:16
Speaker
Heads is Tiana. Tails is Chase. Do you have anything to flip? Okay. Flip a coin. Tails. Chase. Let's go. All right. The sight has spoken. What's Chase's last name?
01:17:30
Speaker
Infinity. Based. With an I, not a Y. I got that.
01:17:40
Speaker
All right. Let's move to actor in a leading role. Oops, all the heists. You're in the me.
01:17:49
Speaker
Stupid. Let me see here. Dwayne Johnson the Smashing Machine. Let's go. We got to go Dwayne Johnson. We got to go Brennan Frazier round two, baby. Yep. He's going to break our hearts again. Brennan Frazier round two?
01:18:02
Speaker
Brennan Frazier round two. this is This is the manifesting category. All right. Dwayne Johnson in
01:18:09
Speaker
I've never felt so much pressure to type fast. and I'm honestly not that great of a typer. The Smashing Machine.
01:18:17
Speaker
Brandon Fraser. And what's the name of the movie? The Family Unit. Rental Family. Rental parental Family. The Family Unit.
01:18:29
Speaker
All right. We got a quick two.
Leading Role Contenders at the Oscars
01:18:32
Speaker
i think George Clooners in... Jay Kelly. Yeah, that feels like an easy one. But Timmy. I think Timmy.
01:18:41
Speaker
Timmy and Marty Supreme. jake Whatever his Oscar campaign this year, it's going to be great. I hope he goes on college game day again. i don't know ball, but watching him know ball made me want to know ball.
01:18:57
Speaker
You know what mean? He's a cool guy. Malik, I could teach you ball. I'm willing to learn. I'm a student. Student of the ball. I'm studying the ball. I'm a teacher of the site. Student of the ball.
01:19:11
Speaker
Um, shit. I had, I had one at the top of my mind that I wanted. Do we think we'll get what's his face? Why? I always forget his name. The one who's playing Bruce Springsteen, Jeremy, all Jeremy, Jeremy Alan White, Jeremy Alan White. Do we think it's, it's a biopic. He's getting nominated.
01:19:30
Speaker
I don't want him to get up nominated for that. I don't know how, like all, I am only familiar with him in TV for the bear. And then that other show shameless, shameless.
01:19:42
Speaker
I don't think I've ever seen him in a leading role. And that's kind of a big role. He was in stuff.
01:19:54
Speaker
That's awesome. Jeremy Allen white. No, not in members or Yeah. Oh, he was in the Iron Claw. Duh. Stupid. Oh my God.
01:20:05
Speaker
But he was supporting. He was also in Movie 43. Wow. Oh, here we go. Jared Leto in Tron Aries. Here we don't.
01:20:19
Speaker
Jason Momoa in a Minecraft movie.
01:20:23
Speaker
Chicken Jockey, a Minecraft movie. Chicken Jockey. What about Mikey B?
01:20:34
Speaker
Do we? I don't know. Maybe like I'm honestly like on a maybe train.
01:20:43
Speaker
He was good. No, don't think he was that good though. Was that for real? That was for real. Even within the context I don't think he was Oscar nominated good. i don't know. Yeah.
01:20:57
Speaker
That's. I think you could nominate the movie as a whole, but I don't think it has any kind of individual performance that would be. Nomination worthy. Nomination worthy. Okay.
01:21:09
Speaker
I do agree. i just still find it impressive within the context of how he had to perform as two characters that he can't... It's not like that hasn't been done before. Yeah, we yeah we got Robbie P. in Mickey 17 this year.
01:21:27
Speaker
That's true. And Tom Hardy in that one movie. And Robert De Niro in that other movie. Okay. Yeah. Robert De Niro. Not Lindsay Lohan.
01:21:38
Speaker
lindsy Lindsay Lohan also did it. Yes.
01:21:44
Speaker
What about... oh we're forgetting Leonardo DiCaprio. I he's a shoo-in. Okay, yeah, that's the one. Sure. Is that five? One, two, yeah three, four, five. All right.
01:21:56
Speaker
Locking an actor. Dwayne Johnson in The Smashing Machine. Brendan Fraser in Rental Family. George Clooney in Jay Kelly. Timmy in Marty Supreme. And Leo in One Battle After Another. Cool.
01:22:07
Speaker
All right. We got two more categories. We got Actress in a Leading Role and then Best Picture. Emily Blunt. We got her in supporting. Remove Emily Blunt. Do think she's supporting or lead?
01:22:21
Speaker
I haven't seen the movie. True. How about your vibe? She's the leading woman in that movie. I'm a keeper in support. I think she's a keeper in supporting. Yeah. Julia Rob hurts.
01:22:34
Speaker
Hmm. We're after the hunt. We really think after the hunt is going to get this many. i don't know. Do we think? How can we know? We've been ignoring one this whole time. Wicked?
01:22:45
Speaker
Wicked. Wicked will be nominated. I think Wicked was nominated for cinematography last year. was. It was either cinematography or directing or both. Either way, it pissed me off.
01:23:00
Speaker
Wicked only belongs in song. I really liked Wicked. and sorry. I'm sorry. All right, guys. Whatever.
01:23:11
Speaker
okay Malik's sick of the wick.
01:23:17
Speaker
I'm all wicked out. Call me a candle away. There's no more wick left. What if Ariana Grande got a nomination? That'd be crazy. well I mean, it would be... so Of the two, I think it's Cynthia Erivo.
01:23:30
Speaker
Oh, for sure. But for for supporting, that would be crazy. Would you guys want to put Cynthia for for lead? Yeah. I don't hate it. I don't either. I like it. She was really good. I really liked her. Yeah.
01:23:44
Speaker
And I, as from what I understand, I think the second part is where it's going to be, i think a little more, um heavier of a role. Hmm. Let's go Cynthia Revo.
01:23:57
Speaker
I have been outvoted,
01:24:00
Speaker
but this is, this is a democracy. So wicked does have to get at least one. Um, all right, fine, fine. a I could.
01:24:19
Speaker
This is the Testament of Ann Lee. don't think we've talked about that yeah yet today. What is that? That is historical drama musical ah starring Amanda Seyfried.
01:24:33
Speaker
Interesting. Holy shit. No way. I missed something. It's got Lewis Pullman. What? We can leave this movie for the rest of it.
01:24:44
Speaker
Real quick. What? What'd you miss? Okay, here's my vote. Going back to actor in a leading role. Yep. Ooh. I might. I want to erase George Clooney and Jay Kelly, and I want to put Daniel Day-Lewis in anemone.
01:25:00
Speaker
No, I think he's going to be supporting actor. You think he's supporting? I think he's supporting it. He's all over it. How? Well, yeah, of course he's all over it. It's Daniel Day-Lewis' return to acting, but I don't think he's the lead in that movie. Really? Yeah.
01:25:16
Speaker
From what I've heard, at least. I'm clicking it. One second. The Wikipedia page, Shaman, ah does list him as the first character. And he is first on the poster.
01:25:28
Speaker
swore I heard he wasn't going to be in this movie as much as people thought. I could be making it up. How long has it been for him? Eight years? Since Phantom Thread. Never saw it.
01:25:39
Speaker
Longer than eight years then? Yep, that was 2017, Phantom Thread.
01:25:45
Speaker
Seen beans in this movie too. Seen bean! Oh, man. Now I know how it's going to end. He's dead. Daniel Day-Lewis is going beat him with a bowling pin.
01:26:00
Speaker
Guys, can we can we... drink your milkshake. Can we take George Clooney out and put Daniel Day-Lewis in? Can we take someone out and put Daniel Day-Lewis in? I don't think we can take George Clooney out.
01:26:11
Speaker
He is getting nominated for... J. Kelly screams nominated movie. Honestly... Brendan. I would put him over Leo. No.
01:26:21
Speaker
I don't. You know Leo's going to go hard. Leo will get the nomination, but he won't get the win. Then we should take out Timmy.
01:26:35
Speaker
God. i could i could I could be in agreeance with Timmy just because of the subject matter of Marty Supreme. Yeah. What is it, ping pong? I think it's Brendan Fraser or Timmy that's got to go, and i feel like Timmy, unless he kills it, kills it, has to go. That hurts.
01:26:53
Speaker
But either way, really does we've got Dune 3, so we'll we'll see. Daniel Day-Lewis. All right, Timmy is out. and Next year will be his year. Fuck, I'm sorry, Timmy. I love you still.
01:27:06
Speaker
Timmy, you know more ball than Daniel Day-Lewis. Can you imagine if for his Oscar tour, Daniel Day-Lewis went on college game day? That'd be hilarious. Strapping young boys.
Leading Actress Nominees Discussion
01:27:18
Speaker
That was my Daniel Day-Lewis impression. It just sounded like you. Strapping men. Daniel, who do you think is going to win in this tough matchup between Alabama and Georgia?
01:27:35
Speaker
Back to actress. Back to actress. We got Julia Roberts and Cynthia Erivo. Do you guys think of anyone else? Let's see. Timothy Chalamet.
01:27:46
Speaker
There we go. He's back. We got him in. Oh, ah Felicity Jones for Train Dreams. What's Train Dreams? Train Dreams is starring Joel Edgerton and Felicity Jones, directed by Clint Bentley.
01:28:03
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Based on Dennis john Johnson's beloved novella, Train Dreams is the moving portrait of Robert Grenier, a logger and railroad worker who leads a life of unexpected depth and beauty in the rapidly changing America of the early 20th century.
01:28:16
Speaker
Love it. Throw it on there. Sure. adding it to my must-see list. Yep. She was nominated last year for the Brutalist. I think it was for supporting, but maybe she'll have a bigger role in this one. So we're going to go, we're going to go there.
01:28:32
Speaker
Um, you've talked about, I'm thinking of ending things a lot. Yeah. What do you remember of Jesse Buckley's performance? Jessie Buckley is a great actress.
01:28:46
Speaker
I really like her. she'sing She's going to be the weed and hamnet. So what do you think? And that's Chloe Zhao, right? Yeah. It could be Jessie Buckley's moment.
01:28:56
Speaker
Could be. I like it. Let me get down Felicity real quick. Alex, how do you feel about the hamnet pic? I like it. Okay. Oh, she's Irish.
01:29:07
Speaker
Yeah. They love Irish. you of Irish and train dreams. Um, Not only does it have Felicity Jones, we also got Carrie Condon.
01:29:18
Speaker
Ooh. That could be a pick in supporting. And we'll see. I love her. Alright, we got one, three. One more. She's slowly becoming one of my favorite actresses right now.
01:29:29
Speaker
Yeah. Wait, which one? Carrie Condon, but that's just me vibing. My fifth one over here is hard. I feel like one might come out of the bushes that we're not seeing here.
01:29:43
Speaker
Could be, I really have no idea how to say this name. um Renati Reigns. Oh, for Sentimental Value? Yeah, Sentimental Value. She was in Worst Person in the World.
01:29:58
Speaker
um Maybe. Maybe that's our ah sleeper pick. I like it. and don't hate it. She's really good
Best Picture Predictions
01:30:07
Speaker
in The Worst Person in the World, and then she's also in A Different Man with Sebastian Stan, and also excellent there.
01:30:13
Speaker
Oh, that movie was so good. So, I'm in. Cool. All right. All right. Are at the big one now? We're at the big one. We'll just recap real quick, though. Actress in a leading role. We've got Julia Roberts in After the Hunt, Cynthia Erivo in Wicked 2, Felicity Jones in Train Dreams, Jesse Buckley in Hamnet, and Renee, I can't pronounce the last name, Sentimental Value.
01:30:37
Speaker
cool all right best picture here we go ten big boys all right like get them out of the way one battle sinners smashing machine we've talked about those three too much to to spin tires on again okay and j kelly and j kelly all right do we think the bruce springsteen movie I think it does because it's a... Probably. i
01:31:07
Speaker
i just hate biopics. I think it will. And I'm with you, Tachi. here I think we're going to see Springsteen and Wicked 2 the same way that we saw Wicked last year and A Complete Unknown.
01:31:22
Speaker
I think we're going to have some deja vu. Does Avatar get a nod? No. Probably. The last two have been nominated. Have they? Yeah, the second one definitely was.
01:31:34
Speaker
Yeah, Wavewater was awesome. I think... So we got... Do we agree on Springsteen? Mm-hmm. Do we agree on Wicked 2? I think after the hunt we can throw on as well.
01:31:45
Speaker
Oh, yeah. Did we agree on Wicked? it wouldn't I like the Wicked pick. Yeah, it wouldn't surprise me at all. okay It's a Wicked good pick. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight.
01:31:58
Speaker
Two more. um There's always like a foreign one So i know we haven't done foreign movies yet And I know we'll cover that more in the The follow up episode we do later in the year Yeah there was one specifically It was just an accident The movie that won Palme d'Or Yes 100% An Iranian film I love Iranian cinema I'd love to do an episode on Iranian cinema I would be down Same Yeah, like Alex said, this won the Palme d'Or this year.
01:32:31
Speaker
um For context, the movie that got the Palme d'Or last year was Honora, and Honora also went away with Best Picture. And Honora was goaded, so... Whatever.
01:32:43
Speaker
You just are full of terrible takes tonight. I mean, my God, dude. Get a grip. I can't. And I won't. What about... It's not really foreign, but it's pretty foreign.
01:32:55
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The rental family.
01:32:59
Speaker
it's a soft maybe I think that's best picture material I think that gets a couple sneaky noms but doesn't end up in best picture okay that's cool with me I'm so hyped for it though don't get me wrong I think it could be nominated for best foreign film I believe it's Japanese produced Hugonia?
01:33:19
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Ugh. Poor things had that nomination. Ooh, Hamnet. We've been talking about that one a lot. We have... Hamnet or the Bug movie? Sentimental value. I'm tied between... I'm tied between Hugonia and Hamnet.
01:33:34
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I think... I lean Hamnet because of Chloe Zhao's past win. I also lean Hamnet because Hugonia is like a ah remake of a movie, so... Unless it's like that good...
01:33:52
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We got our best picture list. To recap, we think we will see one battle after another. Sinners, The Smashing Machine,
Wrap-Up and Audience Interaction
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J. Kelly, Springsteen, After the Hunt, Avatar, Wicked 2, It Was Just an Accident, and Hamnet.
01:34:11
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Cool. That wraps it up. How do we feel? Feels weird. But...
01:34:18
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I feel like I'll feel the same even after I watch these movies. You think so? It just feels like a strange list. But there's really no other significant way to to list it.
01:34:33
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Now, when we have our follow-up episode, because I think this ah this episode will have two follow-ups. It's going to have a follow-up maybe in the beginning of the year when we've seen these movies and we fill in the other categories.
01:34:46
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And also a comparison episode to how we did when the actual list drops. Are we going to replace the movies we've already picked? That was my next question. Is this in stone?
01:34:57
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Or do we have the opportunity to change them in our second follow-up episode? I think we need to workshop it. We'll workshop it. Workshop. So far, feel good. This was fun.
01:35:09
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And we hope you had fun too. You're basically just hearing a bunch of people rant and argue. We brought up. Yeah. We brought up a lot of potentially good movies yet to come out this year. So definitely keep your eyes and ears open for these and catch them in theaters.
01:35:26
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If you can support the arts, it's a good theater experience. We do. um We will post this to our Instagram. I think it might be stone. it'll It'll be put in stone once we post it over there. So we'll see. forget to check it out when we post it TikTok. Give us hate.
01:35:44
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um Boost that algorithm. We love rage baiting people. It's the most you can do to support us is hate us. We love you. We're dominating you for best fan base. yeah Best audience.
01:35:56
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And they win. Have a good night. See ya. See ya. Bye.