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Lost In The Timeframe- The Movies of 2025 (So Far)
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This week on Lost In The Frame, we're discussing how 2025 has been for movies. Who's made the most money? What's out top 5 so far? What are the boys excited for??
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Introduction & Hosts' Obsession with Love Island
00:00:14
Speaker
Welcome back to Lost in the Frame. I'm your host Hachi. I'm your host Malik. And I'm the caboose Alex. How you guys doing today? I'm Love Island Pilled Man.
00:00:25
Speaker
to Me too. we were talking about Love Island like 15 minutes before we actually hit record. I think last week, I think this time last week, Alex, you weren't on it and I was talking about it and now you're caught up.
00:00:38
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i Yeah, do you... Irreversible damage has been done to my brain because the amount of Love Island I watched in a really, really short period of time. I need to watch like a handful of really good movies.
00:00:53
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i I need to watch something else. Anything else. I think July will will be the the remedy. There's a lot. There's a lot of good good coming in July. I'm glad Wednesdays.
00:01:04
Speaker
So Wednesdays are the day where there is no new Love Island episode. Oh, there's not? No. Let's go. i can go to Beverly. there's new episodes every day except for Wednesday and Saturday. But Saturday they have Aftersun, which is their little talk show. Nobody watches Aftersun. I watched it last week. The host is annoying as hell.
00:01:21
Speaker
i I skipped all the afterstones trying to catch. Oh, yeah, yeah, we we skipped them That was the first one we watched, but I think that was just because we were like itching to what to get something, just crumbs of Love Island.
00:01:32
Speaker
It's, um yeah, I mean, it's, I'm i'm purely watching it because i just i just got to see what happens next, you know? Like, people keep saying this is a bad season, and I'm, um if if this is a bad season, like, I actually think I'd i'd hate a good season.
00:01:52
Speaker
I agree. Cam told me something. ah She pointed something out when we first started watching it. She's like, you're older than all of the Islanders. Oh, yeah. I'm older than almost all of them. She called you Unk.
00:02:06
Speaker
So my mom's nickname for me is Punk. And then Matthias goes, nah, it's Unk.
00:02:14
Speaker
Cooked by a 10-year-old. Just kidding. He's like 16. hits a nerve sometimes. It does hit a nerve.
Denis Villeneuve and Bond Speculations
00:02:20
Speaker
Well, for today's episode, it is July 2nd. We are officially halfway through 2025.
00:02:28
Speaker
So we thought we would do a year in review thus far of the movies we've seen, the movies we haven't seen, and what's coming up soon. But first, we're going dive into some movie news.
00:02:39
Speaker
Who wants to kick us off? I'll start um because this is one that I'm super excited about. Denis Villeneuve is the director for the the next James Bond movie, officially locked in.
00:02:51
Speaker
And I'm stoked. He, I don't think, has missed really ever. I don't have an opinion because I don't know the vibe of James Bond.
00:03:03
Speaker
keep forgetting you've never seen one. Not a single one. Do you think he's ah capable director for this franchise specifically? Yeah, I do. Because i when I see Villeneuve and I see his movies, like even though I haven't seen Bond, like I see it, like I get it.
00:03:22
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I don't see Denis filling that chair, if that makes sense. I think he'll do a perfectly fine job. He can't possibly be...
00:03:34
Speaker
the work like makeup like the worst bond movie there's just no way there's some there's some stinker if he has any misses it hasn't been in the last 10 years so i think we're pretty safe well he uh maybe that means he's due o shoot you're right has he missed let me see i'm gonna go look it up yeah my hard take is when i saw it originally i didn't love arrival Arrival grows on you.
00:04:00
Speaker
I can't even say grows on you because I really liked it the first time, but I've loved it more. as I'd love to watch it a second time. The first time i was like, oh, okay.
00:04:12
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Neat.
00:04:15
Speaker
I also watched it with my whole family and some of them just weren't feeling it. So maybe that kind of brought the vibes down. So he's done Dune 2. Yep.
00:04:26
Speaker
Dune. Blade Runner 2049. yeah Arrival. Yep. Sicario. Enemy and Prisoners. Based. What was his first one? yeah yeah Doesn't he have... Like 32nd of August or something is what it's called? No, no, no. Unless I'm thinking of of somebody else.
00:04:44
Speaker
Let me see. I feel like he did a yeah, Incendies. Oh, Incendies
James Bond Casting and Film Discussions
00:04:50
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is. Incendies is really good. Incendies is crazy. We watched it on the same day and we didn't.
00:04:56
Speaker
That wasn't like on purpose. Yeah, i remember. Because i that was the blind spot I had in his filmography. And I watched it and i was like, yeah, he doesn't have any misses. I haven't seen enemy. I have not seen enemy.
00:05:07
Speaker
Same. I just added it to my watch list. I think one's pretty short. Going back 10 years. i mean, that's Sicario. Yeah. So no misses. think he's just starting. So good.
00:05:18
Speaker
A near generational run right now. He's untouchable. but Who do you guys want to be bond? What? Who do you guys want to be bond? Oh, I think Aaron Taylor Johnson.
00:05:32
Speaker
You think he's got the charisma to be big witty man? Yeah, I mean, guys saw Bullet Train, right? yeah that's true. has some quick wit.
00:05:43
Speaker
He, I don't think, has been really given a role to where he can be witty. Fair. Because in in ah the Godzilla one he's in, doesn't really do anything.
00:05:54
Speaker
How was he in Kraven the Hunter? I don't think anyone watched that movie. that movie came and went i think it was probably wandering almost watched it you almost watched craven yeah what does that mean oh last night yeah like was it un about to press play and i just i just stared at his abs for a while and i was like i guess that's all i'm gonna get from the movie so i'll skip it ah i feel like craven didn't even have like the bad movie aura that like Morbius or Madam Web had and was like, Oh, this is going to be so bad, but I kind of forgettable. Yeah. It's just like, no one cared. Like, yeah, and that's, that's actually worse than like a Morbius. Everyone will remember Morbius.
00:06:40
Speaker
Yeah. It made a more billion dollars. more billion bucks. You guys watch the trailer for the running man. No, I haven't yet. I just thought I just watched it before we started recording.
00:06:52
Speaker
I'm on board. Looks interesting. Yeah. I'm on board as well. That's another Stephen King had adaptation, right? Yeah. We're on two this year. They're both involving traveling distances. It's kind of crazy.
00:07:05
Speaker
Hmm. What does that say about society? think it says ah Stephen King was doing a lot of cocaine. Is there a roof man or am I imagining that?
00:07:18
Speaker
There's a serious man where there's a roof man. Yeah, that's the one with Channing Tatum. Oh, I was that this year. Mm hmm. October. A lot of man movies. Superman.
00:07:29
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Roofman. Superman. We just we had Hitman last year with Glenn Powell. He can't stay away from the man movies. Yeah. Better Man. The monkey movie. The monkey The monkey.
00:07:40
Speaker
A different man? Monkey man. Monkey man? That's a lot of men going on. It's too much men. I also want to bring up Project Hail Mary. I don't know anything about the book, but I know it's a really, really highly acclaimed...
00:07:59
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ah book I don't know anything about it. Like really, I've just seen the cover and I've just seen people rave about it. But yeah, have you read it, Alex? No, I don't actually don't know anything about this.
00:08:11
Speaker
Did you watch the trailer, Tachi? I watched the first like 15 seconds and I realized I don't want to know anything. i Yeah, I wish I did that because now I've been seeing a lot of videos saying that there's a twist in the book that the trailer reveals.
00:08:25
Speaker
So I've seen a lot of people online complaining about that. But then other people are like the quote unquote twist happens in chapter six. And it's not really like a twist. So like they think that it's fine that it's in the trailer.
00:08:39
Speaker
I did watch the full thing. um I'm on board with it. Looks cool.
Excitement for Upcoming Movies and Teasers
00:08:43
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Directed Chris Lord and Philip Miller. I always mix up their names.
00:08:50
Speaker
Phil Lord, Chris Miller. Spider-Verse director shot by Greg Frazier, who also was the cinematographer behind Dune and the Batman part two. And starring... Ryan Gosling.
00:09:01
Speaker
Our guy. He's here. Some say he's in the room with us. I feel him. Wait.
00:09:13
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wish I did. So what's next? The Odyssey.
00:09:19
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The Odyssey. we got to We got a trailer. A trailer? Not a trailer. We got a poster. Oh. We got a poster and what do you call it?
00:09:31
Speaker
ah sneak peek? Teaser? What's a teaser? I was like, what's a pre-trailer? There's a teaser playing before Jurassic World right now in select theaters. People have seen it.
00:09:42
Speaker
It's leaked online and I'm trying to avoid it. I can't believe, yeah, I mean, I don't want the Odyssey spoiled for me. Shut up.
00:09:53
Speaker
I mean, what am I going to do if I find out what happens in the Odyssey? I don't even think that. see the Odyssey. It's just like getting the experience of seeing this teaser in a in a theater. Just the the vibe, the visual, audible vibe.
00:10:07
Speaker
Yeah. I get what you mean. It's palpable in a theater. red super I am going to go nuts when I see it in the theater, though. I had the thought this morning, what if we flew to New York, went to the AMC on Lincoln Square, and watched this on the largest IMAX screen we could?
00:10:29
Speaker
Like the movie or the teaser? The movie. No, let's fly to New York, get Jurassic World tickets for the teaser, and then dip. I'd be done.
00:10:40
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I think that'd so I would be, i think that'd be fun. That would cool. When does it come out? Summer? Next summer, I'm assuming, right? Because
Batman, Transformers, and Squid Game Adaptations
00:10:51
Speaker
filming's not done yet, right?
00:10:52
Speaker
I don't think so. Okay. Yeah, didn't it just start? It started a couple months ago, but yeah there's been a lot of articles that have come out saying that he's just and he just runs a tight ship on set. That they're like two weeks ahead.
00:11:04
Speaker
Speaking of things that finished, I can't remember if we talked about it last week or not. Did we talk about the Batman part two? We didn't. No. Batman part two script done.
00:11:15
Speaker
It's done. It's done. I think they start filming in January. um remember people were like, it's going to get canceled because ah Robert Pattinson's doing Dune Messiah.
00:11:27
Speaker
No. Back to back. We're back. Our king. Dune is filming later this year. Robert Pattinson goes right to filming the Batman part two once that wraps.
00:11:39
Speaker
That's just crazy. It does suck, though, because that movie is not going to come out to what? 2027? Probably. Yeah. When did the Batman come out? 2022? Something like that. Yes. Yes.
00:11:51
Speaker
Five years. I was still a yeah still a ah contractor. Damn. In that that job we shared. That's too much time. That is way too much time I took a day off to go see that movie.
00:12:04
Speaker
I saw a matinee of it like the Friday it came out. I took a day off to go see it because I was like, to my boss, I was like, yeah, I just seemed like a mental health day. I i truly had not taken a vacation in a long time.
00:12:17
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And he was like, you deserve to take a day. Like, take, like, I'm in the next month. I want you to take one day off. And I was like, okay, cool. And then I was like, the Batman comes out. Yep.
00:12:27
Speaker
So I'm like, this is the perfect day to do it. Time well spent. I think I'm going to do that with this next movie. Michael Bay is developing a new Transformers.
00:12:38
Speaker
That's really wow. They're going to reboot his version of the franchise I guess. I don't know. Do you think they're going to have the ah age of consent scene. Anyone see I've heard of it. I haven't seen like the last two Transformers movies just because i didn't hear anything good about them.
00:13:00
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And I think you talked about that scene in particular on one of our like first episodes with Mark when we brought up Mark Wahlberg for some reason but. It was a choice. Yeah. Get that out of here.
00:13:13
Speaker
Have you ever watched like the scene? No. Because for a long time I had it described to me and then I actually watched it and it is way crazier than I even pictured.
00:13:25
Speaker
So for those who don't know, I forget which it's, it's the, it's the Transformers with the Mark Wahlberg in it. I forget the name of it. I never saw it. But there's this scene where like he's talking to this guy who's dating his underage daughter.
00:13:41
Speaker
And daughter's like 17 or 16 or something like that, like late teens. And so it's like Mark Wahlberg is like, hey, you're too old to be dating my daughter. And then um the guy pulls out like a laminated card with the Texas Romeo and Juliet law, which is like, no, actually in Texas legally, i can date her because we're within three years or something like that.
00:14:11
Speaker
That's insane. Why is that in Transformers movie? I genuinely don't know, but if you go and like watch this scene, just it's so... like Everything that I just said basically happens beat for beat, but it somehow surpasses it.
00:14:27
Speaker
Because it seems something that's made up, and then you see it, and it's like, why... who put this in there? Hollywood really doesn't do their best to like avoid. We're creepy allegations.
00:14:45
Speaker
When you put that in a movie, I agree. You guys seen squid game. I saw the first season. I don't care if for squid game. Not even the first season. First season was fun to watch, but I guess season three just ended.
00:15:00
Speaker
But I bring it up. I don't know if you guys have seen this, but David Fincher is doing an American version of Squid Game. Oh, God. Isn't that awful? I thought... Our goat is washed. what's What's crazy is about Squid Game is i think they botched the ending so hard because Netflix had to Netflix it up.
00:15:20
Speaker
And I have no desire to watch two or three. And the crazy thing, I don't have the numbers in front of me, but so season three, I think, came out last week, and it's like the most watched shows ever.
00:15:34
Speaker
And I'm just like, who's watching this? Dead Internet 30s. Yeah. um Also, I saw, I don't have it up right here, but Aaron Sorkin is set to direct a sequel to The Social Network.
00:15:48
Speaker
What? Things are looking bleak. That movie could be... Truly like soul crushing if done right.
00:16:00
Speaker
Absolutely. Just the biggest black pill ever put to media. I don't want it. Here's another bad one. Vin Diesel says that Brian will return in the final fast and furious. Oh my God. Yeah.
00:16:17
Speaker
Are you kidding?
Fast and Furious Nostalgia and Box Office Hits
00:16:18
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thought Are you kidding me? No, we don't want that. We got the perfect send off. Have I ever told you my Paul Walker story? No.
00:16:28
Speaker
Sure. So... We're totally digressing here, dear viewer. So I apologize, but I'm actually so pressed about this because when I was in high school, I like me and my buddies, like middle school, high school, we lived for the Fast and Furious.
00:16:42
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um One through five, like we watched like every time there was a sleepover, like love the cars, knew everything about all the cars in them. i mean, like Paul Walker was our hero, like a collective hero for the group.
00:16:55
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I still have like a couple T-shirts with his face on it. Or like quotes from Fast and Furious movies. So the night he died, um i i had two buddies over.
00:17:08
Speaker
We were playing Gran Turismo 5. Downstairs in my basement. That's basically all we would do is just play Gran Turismo 5. They'd come over and we'd like rip Gran Turismo all night. So I go on Facebook and as like a true like 13, 14 year old Facebook connoisseur, I had liked like all sorts of random car pages.
00:17:29
Speaker
I liked one called Ferrari versus Lamborghini. I'll never forget this. And I opened it up and it was the admin of that account had posted like, like, I am so gutted to hear about the passing of Paul Walker. Like he is an idol to all of us.
00:17:45
Speaker
And I was like, like what? Like literally it was like the second tower got hit, but worse. He was your Pentagon. Yeah.
00:17:59
Speaker
Um, so I start like looking at the news and yeah, like Paul Walker died in a car accident, driving a Porsche Carrera GT. And I was like, no way. And so me, Antonio and Ernie, shout out if you guys are listening.
00:18:14
Speaker
I know you remember this night too. Um, we were just beside ourself. I mean, we go upstairs and we go Or like, Dad, this is like 9 o'clock at night.
00:18:26
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like The night's just getting started and it's already over. um
00:18:32
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Like, Dad, Paul Walker died. He's like, no. He's like, no.
00:18:41
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So he looks it up and he's like, oh my God. He's no, I don't believe this. He's like, I don't believe this. He's like, go downstairs. Go downstairs. And so We're downstairs and we decided the only thing we can do to save this night is, and again, this was, when did he die? 2013, So the only 14? thing we can do is in print. In what? 2013. 2013. Yes, this is like, I was like and what twenty thirteen twenty thirteen yes this is like i was like still freshman or sophomore in high school, we decide that the only thing we can do is we can make a tribute to Paul Walker by building the Blue Skyline from Fast and Furious in Gran Turismo. So that's what we did.
00:19:25
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But as the night went on, my dad kept coming downstairs with updates. And he said, It might be fake news. Paul Walker might still be alive. It's like 11 o'clock and he's dropping that on us because like he knew we weren't going to go to bed till like two in the morning.
00:19:40
Speaker
So he was like staying up to the bitter end to to make sure this isn't true. He's like, no, no, no. He's like, I think it's fake news. There's like someone saw him at like an airport or something. That's what they're saying. So he's he's probably still good. but we just need some sort of statement, right?
00:19:55
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It's like one in the morning and he comes upstairs and he's like, guys. Paul Walker actually died. Dang. What a roller coaster. I had that skyline that we built in Gran Turismo as my PS3 background, I think, until the PS3 broke.
00:20:13
Speaker
Wow. Which was two years ago. And that's my Paul Walker story. And if they bring him back, I'm going to go um throw hands. Great news. They're bringing him back.
00:20:23
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oh
00:20:27
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That's going to be... Such a day. When the trailer drops, because you know they're going to show him in the trailer. it's It's been a long day.
00:20:38
Speaker
Yeah. Without you, my friend. Go ahead sing for us. And I'll tell you all about it when I see you again. And we're going to see him again.
00:20:49
Speaker
it was foreshadowing this whole time, and we didn't even know it. I'm pressed. I'm pressed. I don't even know if I can finish recording tonight. They had it right in front of us the whole time. That's all I've got for movie news. You guys got anything else?
00:21:02
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think that covers it.
00:21:05
Speaker
Stay tuned for our episode on the final Fast and Furious with the return of Brian. We're all very excited. It may be the final episode we ever filmed because I'm not sure I'll live much longer past that. i probably would have died of something.
00:21:19
Speaker
Well, if you die, we'll just bring you back the way they're going to bring Brian back. Oh, God. Yeah.
00:21:29
Speaker
all right uh getting us into the the meat and potatoes of this episode is the year in review huh the big boys the big boys so our first segment here is talking about who dominated the box office this year so far domestically who umating who's who's dominating again who's your daddy
00:21:54
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It's never going away. Who are our financial daddies? America wants to know. We do. Were you guys surprised at this top five for the biggest box office wins of the year?
00:22:08
Speaker
Kind of disappointed. It's kind of bleak to look at. It's it's it's almost exclusively slop. It's the state of the country right now.
00:22:20
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I think, yeah, we can. I think the state of movies right now is very reflective of the state of the country. I think I was going to say this says just a lot about the the cultural zeitgeist and just.
00:22:35
Speaker
We're probably like the lowest era artistically. And you know what? It's so disheartening. Like we like movies and we like talking about them. And I feel like we're just like, I feel like a lot of people like movies, but like the way that we talk about them is just it.
00:22:53
Speaker
I didn't think it was niche, but it feels niche. Like we're not, we're not the general audience. I was going to say the general audience has like ah grip. aura Our movie taste means we should have been born and been doing this on public access in like 1999.
00:23:12
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We would air after Alex Jones did in 90s Austin. we we need a growth frame We need to grow our fan base to like-minded individuals such as ourselves.
00:23:23
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That is the goal. We're going to radicalize America with based movie opinions. Number five. At 200 million in the box office, Captain America, Brave New World.
00:23:38
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Did you see it? Did you like it? No, and I probably wouldn't if I did. Yes, and it was fine. I watched it. It's almost good.
00:23:49
Speaker
Almost. You know what mean? That's crazy work. like it's almost It's almost a good movie. What think could have made it a better movie? Is it almost like good movie or almost like a good Marvel movie?
00:24:06
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I think both. Not great Marvel movie. Is it like ah almost a good Marvel movie? Oh, I'm going to say my opinion. I think it's almost a good Marvel movie.
00:24:17
Speaker
I don't think it's that close to being a good movie because I look at a good Marvel movie. I look at Thunderbolts. That's a great Marvel movie. So I think this was close to being a good Marvel movie.
00:24:28
Speaker
That's fair. I guess outside the MCU, it's a little messy. Yeah. Nothing really makes sense.
Live-Action Adaptations and Original IPs
00:24:34
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And it had a really cool trailer. like I liked the vibe that that they were going for. And then I just feel like all of that was thrown out the window.
00:24:43
Speaker
And not reflected in the movie whatsoever. so Yeah, you could literally feel the rewrites. yeah And the reshoots. It was brutal. I feel bad for Anthony Mackie. Me too.
00:24:57
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like Because I feel like I don't know if he's a good actor. And he really hasn't been given a fair shot. Yeah, I don't know if he has the sauce for... Sorry, a lead actor.
00:25:07
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Yeah. I think he's a good supporting actor. I don't think he has the sauce to to carry a franchise or to be a lead actor like that. What if? I'm happy to be proven wrong.
00:25:19
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Yeah. Does his agent hate him? What are his movies? What are last seven movies? outside Outside of Marvel. Sort by newest release date first. Outside of Marvel?
00:25:34
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Yeah. Yeah. sneaks What is this? oh is that that animated shoe movie? Yes, what is this?
00:25:44
Speaker
What is that? Our point is being proven. What?
00:25:50
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I think that came out this year. 1.8. point eight We might have to go to commercial so I can process this. I need to see this. This is...
00:26:04
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Ty, a misguided, one-of-a-kind designer sneaker, doesn't know life outside the comforts of his velvet-lined shoebox. I don't think I can finish reading this.
00:26:17
Speaker
It sounds like a children's book. His name is Ty? Yeah. T-Y. Ty. Sway Lee's in it. And Quavo. Oh my god. That's cool.
00:26:27
Speaker
i don't I don't... Mustard is in this. DJ? DJ? She says mustard. It is DJ mustard. It is DJ mustard. Nice.
00:26:39
Speaker
That's nuts. I'm not hip guys. What's next after sneaks? The electric state. Oh no. To be fair, that but combination of director and writer should work, but they just can't do their own original IP.
00:26:57
Speaker
I don't think they can. But Electric State isn't an original IP. That too. They had source material. And the actual source material for the Electric State is crazy good.
00:27:09
Speaker
Have you ever like flipped through it? i haven't, but i've I've seen pictures online that it's just like. It's at the Austin Public Library, so I would go pick it up. yeah It'll take you an hour to like flip through it if you really just pay attention.
00:27:23
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It's awesome. I love it. There is an incredible movie to be made with that stuff. And I saw the trailer and I'll watch it eventually because I'm such a big fan of Simon Stalag's work that it's like kind of have to do it to support him.
00:27:38
Speaker
But I think they completely bastardized the source material. I mean, it it didn't even look similar to the the book. Shame. The next was Elevation. OK.
00:27:51
Speaker
Which I'd never heard of. Has a 2.3 out of 5 on Letterboxd. Shark Beach with Anthony Mackie. so It's called Shark Beach with Anthony Mackie? It's like a National Geographic thing. About sharks.
00:28:06
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Hell yeah. He's from New Orleans? Oh, he's in Ghosted? Timeless Hero. Oh no, that's a documentary. Yeah, Ghosted. you were the last and then we have a ghost.
00:28:18
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So Anthony Mackie not really having the chops for a lead actor is what I'm so is what i'm saying. Anthony Mackie blink twice if you need help, buddy.
00:28:32
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Next up, number four with 203 million. So just scraping past Captain America, the live action, how to train your dragon. We don't have to dive into it.
00:28:44
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We're going to sound just like old people yelling at clouds. Oh, the original. Original is good. The original is really good. Yeah. you guys should read the books. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. The David Tennant audio book goaded.
00:28:56
Speaker
Why do we need live action everything? it's It's just worse. Arguably. It's just worse. Live action, everything CGI.
00:29:07
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oh Number three, with $278 million, this is the outlier in a pile steaming poo-poo diaper. youngng Original IP, Sinners, with $278 million gross domestically.
00:29:23
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yeah Did we ever talk about sinners? Yeah. Yeah. We, I can't remember. i mean, it would have to have been like our first episode or something, right? Second episode. Was it like third episode?
00:29:34
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was our second episode. It was our second? was our second. Oh yeah. First was the draft. Oh yeah. Wow. Good times. Yeah. I'm glad this is up here, though.
00:29:46
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I am too. I do have, for one of our later segments, I got a little bit of a... That's not a hot take. I think we've said it before. But I'll leave it at that. ah I think I you're say. Second on the list, another slot fest, the Lilo and Stitch remake with $401 million domestically.
00:30:04
Speaker
Imagine um America paid $401 million dollars collectively to watch Nani give Lilo to the state. I have to see it. I have to see it.
00:30:16
Speaker
I'm just going to fast forward to the end and then log in on Letterboxd. I just want to see her get handed to CPS or whatever happens.
00:30:24
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And then number one with $423 million domestically. Just dropped on HBO Max, so go check it out if you want to. A Minecraft movie. Chicken jockey. I saw a clip today of Jack Black going, first we mine, then we craft.
00:30:40
Speaker
Minecraft. I was like...
00:30:45
Speaker
I'm not lying to you. I watched the first 15 minutes of this movie. I think last night or two nights ago. The entirety of what I watched is him basically dancing in front of a green screen.
00:30:56
Speaker
Does he sing? Kind of. Mostly just like talking. There is a song. ah Steve's Lava Chicken. Oh. It's the song, I think.
00:31:09
Speaker
Yeah, I turned it off. But it was the first 15 minutes was just him alone in front of a green screen just having fun, really. Quick question before we get to our top five of the year.
00:31:23
Speaker
Did Jack Black fall off or did we outgrow him? No, he fell off. He fell off. You think both Tachi? Probably. but Okay, go back and watch School Rock.
00:31:36
Speaker
Holds up. School of Rock does hold up. Kung Fu Panda holds But I'm wondering, does it hold up because that's what we were into at that time and we all enjoyed it? Because he's always kind of been this.
00:31:49
Speaker
So I'm wondering if it's either a fall off or did we just outgrow that style of person? Here's here's my take on it. We didn't outgrow that style of person, but he did.
00:32:01
Speaker
ah He aged out of it. He aged out of it. they're like Now it's like sad and weird watching him go first we mine, then we craft. Minecraft! And then like whatever. like it just He looks homeless in that movie.
00:32:18
Speaker
He looks really bad. He looks horrible. and What was that choice? don't know. I thought Steve was a black man. Disheveled slob.
00:32:30
Speaker
Oh, well. So so those are the those are the big boys of the year so far. We're off to a hot start. Yeah, we love movies. We're going to go to our top five of the year, our personal top five of the year. Let's do it.
00:32:44
Speaker
Now, I will preface this with saying we have a section talking about what we've missed. I've missed a lot. But writing down the list of what I've missed, it doesn't really seem like it would alter my top five too much.
00:32:59
Speaker
um So all to say the first six months of this year have been little, uh, I'm parched, if you will, but I'll start with my number five spot.
00:33:11
Speaker
And that goes to mission and impossible. The final reckoning base. I have the same for number five. Yep. Let's go. I have, this came out, I think January 1st, Wallace and Gromit vengeance. Most foul. Yeah.
00:33:29
Speaker
Wait, did that come out? That came out last year. It came out. No, it came out New Year's Day. It was released in England, I think, for awards purposes.
00:33:43
Speaker
ah last year but it was not distributed on netflix until january 1st and it's a netflix original that's where i was getting confused i was like i definitely watched that last year because i watched it for the oscars but the oscars were this year yeah okay i've never actually watched a wallace and gromit movie i love wallace and gromit they're fun okay where it's pretty good yeah i like i like vengeance most is is there one that's best Uh, start with the original like three shorts.
00:34:14
Speaker
So the one it's like Wallace and Gromit Grand Day Out, um a close shave and then um the wrong trousers. Oh, and then where rabbit is also just awesome.
00:34:28
Speaker
I like where wrap it. um My number four is Sinners. Respect it. Mine is... oh shoot. What happened? Okay, I'm going to call an audible.
00:34:39
Speaker
Okay. Mine is also Sinners. There we go. Mine is Thunderbolts. Okay. I feel like we're all going to have very similar top fives right now. Yeah.
Theater Experience and Film Sound Design
00:34:51
Speaker
My number three is Warfare. I enjoyed Warfare a lot. Alex thinks it's too low in my list. If the rest of the year goes well, you're going to just get more and more upset with me because it's probably going to go down.
00:35:07
Speaker
Well, we'll fight. so it'll i think it'll make top I think it'll clear the top 10 for the year, though, to be completely honest. I think just the sound design alone deserves that. Yeah. For my number three, i had Sinners.
00:35:19
Speaker
My number three, Mission Impossible, The Final Reckoning. That theater experience, I don't know. Like, objectively, I can look at that story and be like, kind of wasn't very good.
00:35:31
Speaker
The theater experience alone was just, man, that was such a quick two and a half hours. That's fair. I think there's a lot of movies that like I'll look back on retroactive retroactively and be like, Oh, it wasn't that great.
00:35:48
Speaker
But then I just have to remember like the theatrical experience and that really lends a hand to it. Um, but sure my number two, I've got Thunderbolts. Me as well.
00:35:59
Speaker
Yep. Mine is 28 years later for my number two. Oh wait, what? That's a centers was number three. Yeah. Again.
00:36:11
Speaker
No, you you called an audible. Remember on four, you flipped it. Yeah. Sinners was my number four. My number three is actually 28 years later. oh why okay. Oh my gosh. Okay. Yeah. Sorry.
00:36:24
Speaker
And then your number two was Thunderbolts. Thunderbolts. Yep. Okay. My number one, if you listen to last week's episode, this should come as no surprise, but it's 28 years later. That's such a, just, yeah, such a based opinion.
00:36:40
Speaker
Thank you. Do you mean that? I genuinely mean that, dude. The farther we get away from 28 years later, the more I'm just like, that was so sick. Yeah. I just, um I'm so excited for next year. i need to watch it in theaters again. We're only 27 weeks to go. Only 27 weeks to go.
00:36:57
Speaker
Official countdown. Lost the frame countdown to the Bone Temple. Tell us your number one, T-Money. Warfare. That theater experience. That changed me.
00:37:09
Speaker
it wow It gave me insight on just really how sound can totally transform ah story and an experience.
00:37:20
Speaker
was awesome. Really, really awesome. I like that point that you bring up because I think i think what a lot of people say like as filmmakers is an audience can forgive a bad picture, but they will not forgive bad sound.
00:37:36
Speaker
So that's why they're always saying if you're out there making short films, like put your focus on sound. Because people will be able to look past like bad quality, lower quality, but if it sounds like like just a trash can, it's unwatchable.
00:37:51
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At first sight moment.
00:37:55
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we have that We have the real life experience. We literally have real life experience. Trust us on this one. What's number one, Alex? Oh, Tachi, you already know. It's warfare.
00:38:06
Speaker
I love war. and I love fairs. i love Warfare is number one. First we war, then we fair. Warfare. That would have been so good. If you...
00:38:19
Speaker
Listen to Redditors. Apparently me loving warfare actually means I'm like pro war. um Which means I totally am in the correct opinion because everyone knows Redditors are just universally dumb.
00:38:33
Speaker
um I say that as someone who goes on Reddit every single day. But... I yeah, I mean, just to echo what Tachi said, that theater experience, like if we want to talk about like a theater experience for a movie with like a not a great script and Final Reckoning.
00:38:51
Speaker
A ah theater experience for a movie with a fantastic script. Was i mean, it was just warfare was stunning. I still cannot believe sitting in that theater and watching that movie and having the reactions that I did next to people who were on a date.
00:39:13
Speaker
That's a crazy date. Good date movie. That's a crazy date movie. But warfare to me has entered like in my mind, like I just think when I think of like great war movies, like I'm already slotting warfare in there.
00:39:24
Speaker
Yeah. Like it it deserves to be there. um And if this is the path Alex Garland is going to go down, like I'm all for it. I am all for it. I thought Civil War was great. And I know that's a that's a hot take, but.
00:39:38
Speaker
Um, man, I know he's there. People are talking about this being like a trilogy of some kind, whatever the third one is like, I'm there. Yeah, i'm I'm behind it. Whatever, uh, or interesting to see that Alex Garland has, uh, popped up on our, all of our lists twice as a writer.
00:39:57
Speaker
Did you know he was an author? No. He wrote a book called The Beach, which Danny Boyle adapted into a movie. It was like his third or fourth feature. It starred Leonardo DiCaprio, Tilda Swinton. I actually watched it last night. And in the credits world, it was like based on an original novel by Alex Garland.
00:40:15
Speaker
Oh, wow. That's cool. Yeah. um I didn't know that 28 Days Later was his first ah script. Yeah. That was his first writing gig. Yeah. Yeah, that was the...
Film Critiques and 2025 Disappointments
00:40:25
Speaker
Yeah, it I think that The Beach directly led to that, and now he directs movies, so there is a path for me yet.
00:40:33
Speaker
Let's go. Our next segment is our over and under segment. We're each going to talk about one film that we think was overrated and one that we think was underrated. We'll discuss each person's pick and see if we agree or disagree.
00:40:47
Speaker
Who wants to kick it?
00:40:51
Speaker
I'm going to say it. All right. what Do it. Sinners, a little overrated. i I put the same thing. Same thing. Listen, guys, I actually, the longer I've gotten away from this movie, the more I look at the takes that I made on that second episode we did and kind of cringe because it's like, you know what?
00:41:09
Speaker
This movie was pretty good, but I still don't see the hype. I had given it like a 7 out of 10 when we did it, and I would still probably give it like a mid to high like in the 7s.
00:41:20
Speaker
But um I just people are talking about this movie like it is God's gift to cinema and it is something groundbreaking and new. And I I still just I don't see it.
00:41:32
Speaker
It's there are so many aspects. There are so many aspects that I like and there are so many that I'm just like, oh, OK, like. This one does need to be rewatched, I think. this Sinners will be dropping on Max this Friday, July 4th. So by the time you're listening to this, it is available to you on your Max app.
00:41:50
Speaker
um I do want to rewatch this, but good movie. Overhyped. To oblivion. Yeah, the the ending getting flubbed ah really brought it down for me.
00:42:04
Speaker
And it's not even like a um It's not even a 28 years later kind of situation where it's the last 10 seconds. Because like at the last 10 seconds of a movie can ruin it for you. Like, were you ever on board? Probably not.
00:42:17
Speaker
um But yeah, Sinners is like the last, like it's the last act. It's like the last 30 minutes that kind of bring it down. So. Unfortunately, it's still a good movie. Yeah. And kind of surprised that we all, I'm surprised that I'm not, that we all put overrated. i I'm hoping that all of our underrateds are are different.
00:42:34
Speaker
My underrated pick, is Oz Perkins the monkey. Coming off of Long Lake.
00:42:45
Speaker
We lost Alex. Coming off of long legs, I think there was a lot of hype around Oz Perkins to the likes of which maybe he had not seen to a broader audience. And so I think people were excited for the monkey and maybe overall let down.
00:43:03
Speaker
But I argue the monkey is really funny. It's got some solid kills. It's not the greatest movie, but it deserved to be in the conversation just just a little bit longer.
00:43:16
Speaker
I really enjoyed that movie. That's my underrated pick. Justice for the Monkey. If you're going to have ah movie about a toy monkey that kills people, you need to make it go far enough, and that movie did not.
00:43:32
Speaker
Yeah, it had some solid kills and it was like kind of funny sometimes, but there was so much, so many points in that movie where just nothing happened. It was like, this is so stupid.
00:43:44
Speaker
And it wasn't even like a good stupid. It was just like, me making this is all my opinion. I'm not yeah not shaming you for liking it, even though I kind of want to. um But I just thought there was so much negative space in this movie that just...
00:44:01
Speaker
It was like, we have to tie in together all these kills, and instead of like making the tie-ins zany and wacky, it's like... Like, no, here we have Theo... What, Theo James?
00:44:13
Speaker
His name? I almost said Theo Vaughn. Theo Vaughn. That would have been and in
00:44:20
Speaker
remake the monkey with theo vaughn 10 out of 10 i hear what you're saying i like it for its stupidity and i think it works there's a line in this that theo james says to his son as they're trying to escape a motel frantically screaming we have to make like eggs and scramble and once once i saw that line i was like all right yeah you're in i'm in I still came over the fact that Oz Perkins was in that ah movie with Gary Busey, Quigley.
00:44:50
Speaker
Yeah. We need to watch Quigley. I do want to watch Quigley. We need to watch Quigley. Tell me about y'all's underrated. Tachi, you go first. All right.
00:45:02
Speaker
This one was kind of tough because I've only seen nine 2025 releases. um Some options are pretty limited, but i I just kind of had to go with Warfare.
00:45:14
Speaker
Okay. Like I, I love it. I think it's really, really great. And I don't think enough people have seen it. So I'm just going to go the box office route. It did not. It also has a fairly low IMDB score. It's like 7.3 out of 10.
00:45:28
Speaker
Like no way. Yeah. Do you have the box office numbers? Nope. But I can imagine it's not great. We prepare really well on this show.
00:45:40
Speaker
deserves more than a Minecraft movie, I'll tell say you that much. For sure. joey For sure. Alex, what's your underrated pick? I was going to say Warfare, um but Tachi did, so I'm not going to double up on that. So here's my other... Here's the take I'm going to go with.
00:45:57
Speaker
There is not a movie besides Warfare that I've seen that I would consider underrated. I think all of them at the most part that I've seen are overrated. Interesting.
00:46:08
Speaker
I am. And we'll get into this in a second, but I am going to preface the rest of this episode with, I have been sorely, sorely disappointed with movies this year. 100% and I think we've hit on that or at least hinted at it a couple times looking ahead for the rest of the year things are looking a little bit more up ah writer but I was curious to see were there any films that you guys were excited for this year that you were ultimately disappointed in?
00:46:38
Speaker
That we have seen. Yeah. Like anything that you were looking forward to. I wanted Mickey 17 to be better. Yeah. That was so disappointing. That's on my list. I haven't seen it yet. I watched it the other day and it just, it had, the premise was so interesting.
00:46:57
Speaker
And then halfway through the movie, I'm like, this is not the movie it should have been. Oh, so don't know. Maybe you'll like it. And the fact that it was the follow up to Parasite, like exactly.
00:47:12
Speaker
Bong, what are we doing, man? There was a lot of hype surrounding it for sure because of that. Yeah. Here's my crazy take. The one I was a little underwhelmed with. Friendship.
00:47:24
Speaker
With Tim Robinson. I watched that the other night. i liked it. I didn't love it. um It just feels like they... i Did we talk about this, Alex?
00:47:39
Speaker
Something felt so off about it. Something felt a little off. Like it was just a little too like wooshy. like there were There were like a lot of really funny moments. Like yeah there were some actually some just banger one-liners in there. There really are.
00:47:55
Speaker
It's beer drinking time. It needed like... It just... The script felt so loose and it was a little too much of a slow burn. Then like yeah that, I think his comedy needs kind of like that high intensity.
00:48:09
Speaker
And I think that. The one of the things that made it, I think, both helped and didn't help, it was usually his comedy. He is like going to an extreme, but then like other people are matching that extreme.
00:48:28
Speaker
And in this, it was like he was like such a sore thumb. And I guess that, you know, played a part of it. Of what made the movie kind of charming was it's like Tim Robinson's doing a bit and everyone's like, this is psychotic.
00:48:40
Speaker
um But the other like it also just is like. was like you'd watch him and he'd be like, you know, like. like Who are you? like What are you doing? and then like everyone No one like plays it.
00:48:55
Speaker
like No one plays off the bit well. It's just him. I'm going to go hook up with my ex. like okay. i I liked it. I liked it.
00:49:06
Speaker
But I hear what you're saying. I think we should have never left Afghanistan. That was a really funny line. That was so funny. One of my favorite scenes in that is his acid trip or his frog licking trip that he goes on.
00:49:23
Speaker
It's built up to be like this like intense trip that he's about to take. And it's just a scene of him at Subway. And then he wakes up on the floor and the guy's just there. He's like, how was it? He's like...
00:49:35
Speaker
I just ordered my my food at Subway. And he's like, was it like like a freaky Subway? he's like, no, was like normal. it like It was a really long scene and then it's just over. is it actually Is it like a heartfelt comedy or is it kind of weird like the trailer?
00:49:56
Speaker
It's deranged and kind of hard to look at. Okay. Interesting. Yeah. Should I watch it? Yeah. It's worth watching. I would. I would. All right. all One of mine that I was disappointed with. I don't know if you guys have seen this one was Wolfman.
00:50:11
Speaker
I haven't seen it. What's that about? A Wolfman. Oh, thanks. It's about a husband and wife with their daughter. I don't remember if they're moving or if they're just visiting, um but they're going out into the woods.
00:50:26
Speaker
There's a wolf man. They get bit. Christopher Abbott turns into a wolf. Directed by Whannell, who I like. He directed the first Saw. um He did The Invisible Man in 2020, which I know most people didn't like, but I enjoyed it.
00:50:41
Speaker
He did Upgrade, which is a really good movie. That's a really fun one. So I was looking forward to Wolfman because I know Lee Whannell, I think there were talks of... There were previous talks years ago about Universal doing like a dark universe like Frankenstein, a Wolfman, mummy, like different movies like these. And they just ended up not working out. And so I think Lee Whannell's plan was to try to like reboot that type of dark universe, starting with Wolfman.
00:51:08
Speaker
And I don't think it's going to happen because Wolfman bombed and it just did not do well. And I agree. Did not really enjoy it. So I was totally disappointed. I like Julia Garner.
00:51:20
Speaker
Yeah. Anything else that you guys were disappointed in the year before we quickly go over what we need to catch up on? I think companion was really overrated. That one's on like on my catch-up list.
00:51:33
Speaker
I'm really disappointed by the first 15 minutes of Minecraft movie that I had to watch. Do you think you're going to finish it? don't want to. You don't have to. don't know. You have to for the plot. think we all have to watch it. I think we do have to watch It's almost painful.
00:51:52
Speaker
Maybe. That's going to suck. Do you guys want to just do our look ahead for the rest of the year? Can we talk about one other movie that I just absolutely couldn't stand? Sure.
00:52:03
Speaker
Go for it. Presence. Oh, I was kind of disappointed with that one as well. I did have that one down. You were there with me in that theater with the worst ending I have seen in quite some time.
00:52:15
Speaker
That ending sucked. It was so bad. For those who... Is it Soderbergh? Yeah. yeah for for For those who haven't seen it, who's who plays the mom in that movie?
00:52:30
Speaker
The lady from Grey's Anatomy, I think. Oh, no, sorry, not Grey's Anatomy. um Charlie's Angels. Lucy Liu. Lucy Liu, yeah. julie Lucy Liu, in this movie, you know, lovely actress. We all love Lucy Liu.
00:52:47
Speaker
Literally explains the twist. And that's the final line of the movie. Oh, that's insane. it is It is genuinely like... I think I burst out laughing.
00:53:00
Speaker
Like I knew where the movie was going pretty early on. And I think it was building to this last scene and the reveal. And it could have been a very emotional moment. And I was like, I could feel myself like swelling up inside. I was like, like, it's going to happen. that They're going to do it.
00:53:16
Speaker
And then she speaks and tells us everything. And I was like, hmm. And then the credits roll.
00:53:26
Speaker
They took tell don't show to a new level. yeah and they did a lot of i don't know it was that one yeah i i'll agree with you with you there alex the longer time has passed the more i've been like damn it damn it just massive l yeah really quick before we move on last movie phoenician scheme do you recommend it yes i liked it i liked it okay I think, and I actually, maybe this is almost worth its own episode.
00:53:58
Speaker
um I said this to Malik as we left the theater. I think Wes Anderson's lost the zip on his fastball. I can't say that. I disagree. Just because Asteroid City was only a couple years ago, and I love that movie. was so good, yeah. I love that movie.
00:54:14
Speaker
He peaked, though. Only time will tell. it's It's not a peak without his valleys. Plateau. True. True.
00:54:24
Speaker
right, let's do the look ahead, though. Very excited for the look ahead. Me freaking too. How do you guys want to frame this one? So we've got I've got top 10 of my most anticipated for the year.
00:54:35
Speaker
What do you guys have? Oh, I just have a big old list, and I'll just pick through it. Same. You have a big old list, and then I have a top five-ish. That's kind of hard pick the top five, yeah. Okay.
00:54:46
Speaker
At number 10, I put The Toxic Avenger. I don't know much about it, but this premiered at Fantastic Fest here in Austin a couple years ago in 2023. And so it's kind of just been sitting in the vault for the last couple years.
00:54:59
Speaker
But it finally got distribution this year.
Anticipation for Upcoming Films
00:55:01
Speaker
um All I've heard is that it's crazy and wild and a lot of people are going to hate it. And for that, my interest has peaked. So is going be good?
00:55:11
Speaker
I'm not sure. Am I sat? Yeah. Cool. Cool. I am going to go with for one of my most excited for is one battle after another starring Leonardo DiCaprio.
00:55:25
Speaker
I have that one as well. Directed by Paul Thomas Anderson, um, based off of Vineland by Thomas Pynchon, who I actually just started reading novel of his for the first time ever this month.
00:55:38
Speaker
Um, started inherent vice the other day. So I'm going to try and get Vineland done too before that movie comes out. Cause I really want to read it and then see it. Um, but we saw that full trailer before Phoenician scheme and I'm just, I'm so excited for it.
00:55:53
Speaker
I think it's going to be, yeah, I think it's going to be really good. What's the, have no idea what it's about. Can you, can you describe it? Okay. Like, like, uh, militia people.
00:56:05
Speaker
Cool. Leo de Cap. Man who rarely does wrong. I got a crazy take. Say it. Please. You did wrong in the beach. The one I watched last night, the Danny Boyle one I was about earlier. How old is that?
00:56:18
Speaker
I think he way overacted in that movie. Is it new? No, it's old. It's like 2001. My least favorite Leo performance I've ever seen, I think.
00:56:28
Speaker
Wow. Yeah. What about you? What do you got that you're excited for? Mine's not even really ranked. um But the first one is Predator Badlands.
00:56:40
Speaker
when we were When we went to go see 28 years later, the trailer came on. And I like ah had like a visceral reaction to all the shots in that trailer. It looks so, so incredible.
00:56:53
Speaker
It looks looks so beautiful. So I've got that one at number three on my list. I told you guys, I haven't seen any of the Predator movies. I think I'm going to watch all of them in anticipation for Predator Badlands.
00:57:08
Speaker
And i see i see the vision now. I can already see it. Just like the same thing that happened with Alien happening with Predator. And then it's just going to... Here's the question. Are you going to wait until you're done watching all the Predator movies to watch Alien vs. Predator?
00:57:25
Speaker
Oh, it's classic. Why would wait? But like you wait till you've seen all of them and then you can pit it against each other. Cause you've seen all of the franchises, what the franchise has to offer. And then they bite each other.
00:57:36
Speaker
You literally get to watch these two franchises battle. yeah Yeah. I think that's how you have to do it. I'll do that. 10 year old me thought it was so sick. I don't know if it holds up, but I remember it being like awesome.
00:57:49
Speaker
I feel it in my bones. We're gonna, it's going to happen again. We're going to get another alien versus predator. I would love that. Cool. Alex, what about you?
00:58:01
Speaker
What's next one? I think it's Malik's turn, right? Yeah. For my number nine, I got Eddington. This one I'm actually really scared of. I'm kind of terrified to watch this one because 9.5 out of 10, I haven't seen good things come out of this movie.
00:58:19
Speaker
I think this one releases later this month. So...
00:58:24
Speaker
Did Ari Aster peak with his debut? I don't know, man. He might have. He might have. people do. I love Midsommar. Oh, Midsommar's great. Midsommar's great. great But hereditary... slope.
00:58:38
Speaker
Actually, it's like a... Right now, it's like ah like ah like a ski slope maybe careening towards a cliff. Like, it just... It sucks that Hereditary was so good and having that be your debut.
00:58:51
Speaker
But I think as an artist, however, he like got the funding to make that movie and then it did very well and he started really making a name for himself. So he's able to have more creative freedom and make the things he wants to make.
00:59:05
Speaker
And so far, I'm not really vibing with the things he wants. was going to say, maybe we should lock him up creatively. Put him in director's jail. It seems following Eddington, he might be put in director's jail. Who knows? He's going to be making Marvel movies for like six years. Just to get back on track. So we'll see.
00:59:26
Speaker
I wait with bated breath. let me ah Let me tell you about my one that I'm super excited for. Weapons. That's on my list. That's my number one. Weapons, Zach Kregger. The movie that got Jordan Peele's agent fired because he lost a bidding war for it.
00:59:44
Speaker
Weapons was already in my top five for most anticipated. And then that story came out and it shot up to number one. I'm stoked for that one. Do we have a release date on that? No.
00:59:56
Speaker
Let me look.
01:00:00
Speaker
It premieres August 7th in the Dominican Republic. Looks like we're taking a trip, boys. That would be electric. If it's even close to as good as Barbarian, I'll be happy.
01:00:12
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Yeah. I'll be very happy. Looks like it comes out in the States on August 8th. Okay.
01:00:21
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We will be seated. It also comes out in Pakistan that day too, in case you're wondering. I was. I love Pakistan.
01:00:31
Speaker
is that Is that your official stance on India versus Pakistan? I'm at least getting political.
01:00:41
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I've watched zero trailers for weapons. i just I've seen all I needed to know with the Jordan Peele fired someone over it. I go through this internal battle a few times a week of... I love movie trailers.
01:00:56
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But sometimes i sometimes I just don't want to watch them. But I can't help it. And there are times when I see a movie after a trailer and I'm like, fuck, I didn' wish I didn't watch the trailer. the The worst is when you were like... do you remember um It Lives Inside?
01:01:12
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Yes. i I successfully like avoided the second half of that trailer, even in theaters. I would just close my eyes, plug my ears. Because I didn't want the monster revealed to me before I went and saw the movie.
01:01:25
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And then when it was revealed, was just like, oh. Like, I wish I could just watch the trailer. You win some, you lose some. Like, i i I had a friend who does not watch movie trailers at all.
01:01:39
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Like, times the amount, like, the time that it takes for the trailers to come on in the theaters and then waits to walk in until they're done. That's so sick. And I think that's... I think that's insane, but commendable.
01:01:54
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I think I want to get to that point. I think I want to get to that point, too. Like... Give me a trailer. Give me the synopsis. Who's directing it? Who's in it? And I think that'll be it.
01:02:06
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I don't know. This is the first time i've I've said these feelings out loud. Should we skip trailers? Trailers used to be at the end. What? That's they're called trailers.
01:02:17
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oh They used to be at the end. Then you could lead before him. Oh my god. um But students didn't have a captive audience to advertise their stuff so they started putting in the front.
01:02:28
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I don't even know if that's true or not but I think it is.
01:02:32
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you It's my truth. You're a liar. gotta look this up now. you just blew my mind and then lied about it. Yeah, you could have left that. That's crazy.
01:02:44
Speaker
i don't even i don't even think I would have fact checked to you. Yeah, but someone listening, what like if we ever got big, like someone's just going to like, Alex, it's just a liar. He just makes stuff up every single episode.
01:02:58
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I'm too gullible. I would have just believed you. Same. that Trailer. The first trailer was shown in American film theater. November 1913, when Niels Gronlund, the advertising manager for the Marcus Lowe Theater chain, produced a short promotional film for the musical Pleasure Seekers, opening at Winter Garden Theater on Broadway.
01:03:18
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As reported in a wire service story carried by the Lincoln, Nebraska Daily Star, the practice which Lowe adopted was described as an entirely new and unique stunt, and that moving pictures of the rehearsals and other incidents connected with the production will be sent out in advance of the show to be presented to the Lowe's picture houses and will take...
01:03:36
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the place of much of the billboard advertising. So you're a liar. Yeah. Due to trailers initially being shown after or trailing the feature film, the term trailer was used to describe the promotion despite it coming before or previewing the what?
01:03:53
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Well, some people do call them previews. just call them previews. Yeah. used to love them. Oh, yeah. Oh, oh, oh, just about coming forward or previewing the film it was promoting. Okay, so yeah, it used be after the feature film.
01:04:06
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So I was right. I was right. I'm him.
01:04:14
Speaker
Tachi, think it's your turn. All right. I'm going to go with Avatar, Byron Ash, third installment. I completely forgot that that was coming out this year. I don't know why, but ever since I saw Avatar 2, I'm like a big Avatar fan.
01:04:31
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I'm like really big Avatar guy. Yeah. I'm like really hyped. think it's going to sick. I'm excited for it. I'll be seated. Me too. That movie made a more billion bucks.
01:04:43
Speaker
That's okay with me. You're like, actually. think a little more heart and care was given to it on like a Minecraft movie. Unlike it. ah Yeah, I'm excited for Avatar.
01:04:54
Speaker
Me too. I don't have it. That one comes out December. Yeah, like around Christmas. It's pretty late. Pretty good. Pretty good Christmas gift. I've also got Guillermo del Toro's Frankenstein starring Oscar Isaac. I forgot about that one.
01:05:10
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This one, I am a little worried just because it is going to be a Netflix release. Oh, That's a bummer. That's a big bummer. That's where I've been doing that lately.
01:05:22
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ah Yeah, that puts a real big, big damper on my excitement there. But here's to hoping Netflix does the right thing and maybe puts it in theaters. We'll see.
01:05:33
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We'll see. Could be really good, though. I love Guillermo. Love Oscar Isaac. Oh, and what's his face? What's his name?
01:05:43
Speaker
Big tall boy. Handsome. Jacob Elordi. Jacob Elordi. As the titular monster. So we'll see. I'm excited to see that performance. Yeah. think he's got the chops? I think he could play a monster.
01:05:56
Speaker
I think he'll be fine. Not a lot of speaking parts. That's true. Unless. Unless. The reason it's going to Netflix. let's What's your next one, Alex?
01:06:07
Speaker
Um, so I've talked about one of these brothers movies before, so I'm not going to say that one. I'm going to say this other one. Uh, Marty Supreme, Josh Safdie.
01:06:19
Speaker
Yeah. Um, yeah, obviously Benny's got smashing machine coming out and I'm super excited about that. But I, I said i already talked about it, so I'm going Marty Supreme. If you don't know what it's about, Marty Mauser, a young man with a dream no one respects, goes to hell and back in pursuit of greatness.
01:06:35
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Starring Timothee Chalamet, Gwyneth Paltrow, and Tyler the Creator. Ooh. Okay. This feels like... This feels like an alternate version of Uncut Gems, in a way.
01:06:49
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Yeah. Interesting cast. It's also got... Penn Jillette, Kevin O'Leary,
01:06:59
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Fran Drescher, Abel Ferrara. Fran Drescher, really? Yeah. Fran, good old Fran Drescher.
01:07:10
Speaker
Interesting. And Josh Bone, who's going to be playing an audience member. Let's go, Josh Bone. Josh Bone's, right Josh Boneheads rise.
01:07:22
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We're eating good this year.
01:07:25
Speaker
Congrats, Josh. Where are my boners at?
01:07:34
Speaker
You're big bone guy, huh? Big bone guy.
01:07:39
Speaker
what else you got tachi okay uh i got i mean obviously the the headliners superman fantastic four um i think you took like four of them what the hell sorry i think though
01:07:57
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ah wait where'd go what do you guys think about the naked gun is that actually going to be funny i haven't seen the original. I want it. Me neither. I haven't seen the original either. But I've seen like that shtick, like that type of humor.
01:08:10
Speaker
Is that even going to work? I think it could. I hope it does. i hope it does. It feels like an old school approach to comedy. And anytime I've seen that trailer in theaters, like people are laughing.
01:08:25
Speaker
Like it seems like people are having a good time and yeah kind of in the same vein, they're doing a sequel to Spaceballs, which is very similar humor. So slaptic ill yeah, I'll be seated for that one as well. But like I'm down for like that type of comedy to to make a comeback as well.
01:08:43
Speaker
So I'll, I'll watch the original naked gun and I, I'll say I'm also excited for, for this one. Yeah. Cause the trailer is really funny. And you're bringing that up with the people laughing around you.
01:08:56
Speaker
That, that like occurred to me when I, when we were watching the trailer, um I was like, oh people are laughing. ah I guess it's kind of funny. like when I don't know why I had that reaction. I was like, all right, I'll have to, I guess. Let's go.
01:09:11
Speaker
Tachi just got socially conditioned into looking at the movie. I might have.
01:09:18
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um how do you Real quick, how do you guys feel about Superman? I think it's going to be awesome. Yeah? yeah We all got to go see that. I've unwavering faith. Okay. Okay.
01:09:29
Speaker
Why? I don't have an opinion. Have we No, i don't i don't have an opinion on it. like I can't say I'm excited. I can't say I'm not. You can't it over weekend. can't. I don't know. What? I don't know why.
01:09:40
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That's crazy. There's just something about it that I'm just saying a little hesitant about. I couldn't tell you what it is. like I just need to watch it. I think my like not so hot take, it'll have at least 80% score on Rotten Tomatoes.
01:09:59
Speaker
Okay. I like that prediction. I like that prediction. um We've talked about most of mine. The last one that I'll talk about is together starring Dave Franco and Alison Brie.
01:10:11
Speaker
Another example of, I wish I didn't see this trailer. Because it's got some it's got some shots in it that I think would have been really shocking on a first watch in the theater.
01:10:27
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And i'm hoping that there's more I'm hoping that there's more of it. And I'm hoping that's not the extent of the shock value of what we've already seen in the trailers. But regardless, I am excited to see it.
01:10:41
Speaker
What about Tron? Have we brought up Tron? We have not brought up Tron. We have Tron Ares. just got jared leto yeah i wish he wasn't the lead that's my one gripe and he's the lead yeah if he was supporting totally fine ish but the lead he does he does well as a supporting i think of blade runner 2049 i like him in that but as the lead yeah i don't know like the trailer is so sick And then the last shot is like a close-up of him like on a building.
01:11:15
Speaker
And it kind of just kills it for me. I'm like, oh. Like that face should have been anybody else. Yeah. Should have been Josh Bone. Josh Bone? Where are you at?
01:11:28
Speaker
Why didn't you answer the call?
01:11:32
Speaker
That's his name, right? Yeah. Okay.
01:11:36
Speaker
I think I've talked about, i know I've talked about caught stealing before on the pod. I think I've talked about the rivals of Omzia King before on the pod. That's the new Matthew McConaughey movie.
01:11:48
Speaker
Yeah. I'm excited for both of those. ah Besides that, I think Begonia, the new Yorgos Lathimos, Lanthimos.
Trailer Reactions and Film Recommendations
01:11:58
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I've never been able to pronounce his last name. Yorgos Lathimos. Lanthimos movie.
01:12:01
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I will not be sad. I'll be stood. Do you also hate Lanthimos? yeah i'm not a fan i respect i honestly i respect it more than like pretending to like his movies i don't love him i don't love him but i like him and what's crazy is i give i gave poor things a four star out of five yeah but that's like in spite of him huh i didn't love poor things i enjoyed poor things i think i also gave it a four out of five
01:12:34
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One more that I did want to bring up, Alex, we saw this trailer before the Phoenician Scheme. um This is starring Colin Farrell and Margot Robbie. A big, bold, beautiful journey. I wasn't wowed by that.
01:12:46
Speaker
It was like I was initially and then like the rest of it happened. i was like, oh, yeah. And so some lame. i i see what you mean. And I felt like you I felt like that's what you thought for sure.
01:13:00
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And I think on paper I agree with you. But something about it. Feels like it could get me. You smelled some sauce. it might yeah It might. Someone was in the kitchen. Just a hint of sauce. Like, I don't know. Like, I don't know.
01:13:16
Speaker
But that trailer, it it piqued my interest. And I'm like, okay. All right. i We'll see. I got one I want to throw in as well because you actually picked out a movie by this guy the other day when we went Criterion shopping.
01:13:29
Speaker
A Cloud. Which technically was a 2024 release, but it's getting an American release in 2025.
01:13:36
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Directed by Kiyoshi Kurosawa. It's Japanese. ah Director of movies such as Pulse and Cure. ah just got Cure. You did just get Cure.
01:13:48
Speaker
If you haven't seen Cure Pulse, both of them are pretty wild. I thought but Pulse kind of petered off at the end, but Cure? You haven't seen Cure? Go see Cure. Go watch Cure. If anyone needs a copy of it, hit me up. Hit my line.
01:14:04
Speaker
yeah hit my line i'll I'll ship it off to you.
01:14:11
Speaker
who We're giving out free DVDs from Malik's collection, not my collection. Any other movies you guys wanted to shout out that's coming up this year?
01:14:23
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I want to shout out a couple that I missed so far. This one kind of is cheating because it just came out, but F1. Super Cypher F1.
01:14:35
Speaker
I wanted to see bring her back. Have not had the chance to do that yet. Materialists, even though I've heard iffy things on it, Celine songs, my girl. So I got to respect her. I got to go see it.
01:14:46
Speaker
And then, um, Opus, which did not get good reviews at all. Nope. But I love, uh, AO at a beer. And I'll, I'll power through. I'll power through.
01:15:00
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This is one I think me and you should watch, Tachi, that i that is already out um that I missed, but The Shrouds, directed by David Cronenberg. um I'll be busy.
01:15:11
Speaker
Okay. That day. Whatever day you choose, I'll be busy. It's streaming on Criterion. That's the only channel doing it I think. Oh, let's go. This is the time for me to get it. I do want to see the new Jurassic World movie.
01:15:23
Speaker
Haven't heard good things. um Have not? Have not. Oh, God. Were you expecting good things? I was. I was expecting good things. I was expecting fun things, but I'm not even seeing that.
01:15:34
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Really? Yeah. ah That's a shame. I was really hyped. Yeah. And the original writer of the first Jurassic Park wrote this one. And people are still like, nope.
01:15:46
Speaker
So that's kind of disappointing. It is. um Yeah, Alex, I'm with you on material lists. Bring her back. um What is this one about? Oh, I wrote this. I don't even know what this is. And I do want to see Elio.
01:15:59
Speaker
What was the the one you didn't even know what it was? The Amateur. Oh, The Amateur. I remember now. The one with Rami Malek. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's an amateur. I don't know what I'm doing. They killed me wife. they killed me wife.
01:16:13
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Stuck in freezer.
01:16:16
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A Jason Statham? It's Tuesday, it? Almost. There's a Jason Statham. Oh, Working Man. I haven't seen that one either. Wasn't he just like the B-Man? Yeah, the beekeeper a beekeeper. There's a beekeeper too. There's a beekeeper too coming out.
01:16:31
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Not enough bees. That's what we need. Two bee two keepers.
01:16:37
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So that one will be fun. I'm with you on Elio though. I do want to watch it. Yeah. I'll give it shot. Do you think it um is pro-gentrification like um Elemental was? I can only hope.
01:16:52
Speaker
Disney's on a crazy run of movies with bad messages. I think I made that joke already. Dang. Sorry. I am a little burned out on the animation style, though.
01:17:06
Speaker
I am, too. I think it's time for Pixar change it up a bit. Well, they are going to with that the flow ripoff that we talked about. That's right. Yeah.
01:17:17
Speaker
All we've seen is concept art. It could look like everything else we've seen from Pixar the last five years at the end of the day.
01:17:24
Speaker
But we'll see. We'll see. All in all, 2025 has not been off to the hottest start, I would say. But... It's no 2023. It's no 2023, that's for sure.
01:17:36
Speaker
I'm just trying to replicate the magic of 2019. I've been chasing that high for years now. 2023 was that high for me. It was just... but I had three 10 out 10s and like twenty six or seven other their nines. 2023 was the closest we came to 2019.
01:17:54
Speaker
But this year's feeling like 2020. So you're just feeling like 2001. two thousand and one Shut up.
01:18:02
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Specific day.
01:18:06
Speaker
Paul Walker got hit. um Any final thoughts for the year ahead or the year so far from you two?
01:18:18
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Yeah, I'll just shout out a couple sequels that people might be excited for.
Upcoming Sequels and Episode Conclusion
01:18:24
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ah The Bad Guys 2. Kind of slept on, but I think it's a solid movie. I've heard good things. Zootopia 2.
01:18:31
Speaker
I like Zootopia. ah Mortal Kombat 2. For any Mortal Kombat fans. um'm um I'd consider myself a Mortal Kombat fan. Same. Oh, who'd they cast as Chun-Li?
01:18:45
Speaker
Oh, for the Street Fighter movie? Oh yeah, that Street Fighter. That Street Fighter, yeah. I know Carl Urban is going to be in Mortal Kombat 2 though. I just found that out today. Yeah. I was ah saw it on the Wikipedia page.
01:19:01
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I'm so old. Just everyone knows, Tachi does his research for these episodes via Wikipedia.
01:19:10
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I am one of the last few. i It's kind of commendable. I respect it. what's What's better, using Wikipedia like Tachi or me where information comes to me in visions?
01:19:22
Speaker
wow What? ah What are you talking about? Since when? Like my trailer thing. Like that came to me in a dream. And i I delivered that to you guys and I was right.
01:19:34
Speaker
Seriously? No.
01:19:40
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See, I'm too gullible. See, I genuinely thought for the character that I play on this podcast. Yes, it's true.
01:19:50
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Does your character have a name? Yeah, he's him.
01:19:58
Speaker
I see. Would you prefer that? Or if I said ah character's name, Ryan Gosling. Boo. There's only one Ryan Gosling. You can't be him. It's me.
01:20:12
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Speaking of him, there is that movie coming out that Jordan Peele produced on him. We didn't talk about that. That could be one that I think ah might not be good.
01:20:23
Speaker
i have a feeling it might not that it won't be good. It just looks early hot take. It looks like the kind of movie you'd produce after missing out on weapons. ah Oh, damn.
01:20:36
Speaker
I hope Jordan Peele never listens to this. I hope he does come fight me. Then we can, we can hang out and stuff. It'd be fun. That's nuts. That's all I've got on my plate for the day.
01:20:48
Speaker
Any closing thoughts for you gentlemen? Uh, nope. Oh, actually no. Two more, two more things. Uh, wicked two and knives out three.
01:20:59
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Later this year. Oh. Knives Out 3. Yeah. What is it? Wake Up Dead Man? Yes. Wake Up Dead Man. I do like the cast. Glass Onion was a little bit disappointing.
01:21:13
Speaker
But I'll be seated. Same. I'm a believer. I do like a classic whodunit. Me too. Because like I watch them and I'm like who did it? Who's doing this? We're trying to find the guys.
01:21:28
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Stupid.
01:21:31
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Anything from you, Alex? No, I think I'm all opinionated out. I need to go have some more dreams. Please share them with the class leader. All in all, 2025 not off to a hot start, but that doesn't mean it can't get better.
01:21:48
Speaker
Let that be the lesson learned from today's podcast, that things can always look better. And we'll see you on the other side of where the grass is greener. Have a great night. I love you.
01:21:58
Speaker
Or day. Or day.
01:22:02
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guys can also say bye. Bye.