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Lost In The Armory - The Naked Weapons
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Strap in, we've got a double feature this week! This week we're talking about The Naked Gun and Weapons. Have you seen them? Let us know what you thought!
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Introduction and Podcast Theme
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It happened right here on this podcast three months ago. Three 30 year old men woke up, got out of bed, walked to their desks, recorded their podcast, and they never stopped recording them.
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Welcome to the Lost the Frame podcast. I'm your host, Tachi. I'm your host, Alex. I'm your host, Malik. How guys doing? I'm good. I like that intro.
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Thanks. I'm very timely. Yeah, I'm doing good.
Rewatching Justice League and DC Hero Favorites
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I've been been rewatching ah the animated Justice League since ah all the super super mania has got me in the mood.
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How's that going? It rips. What's great. What's like the actual title of the show called? Justice League. Justice League. Okay. Who's your favorite DC hero?
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Oh, That's tough. I feel like it's the flash. Really? Why? Actually, no, I take it back. It's Batman. I was like, I'm trying not to be cliche, but I can't even pretend. um there are There are just some things where being cliche is the correct answer. they're just the The flash, I think, is second, especially like this incarnation of the flash. He's awesome.
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There's nothing wrong with loving Batman. I mean, he's pretty Yeah. Yeah. yeah Ain't nothing wrong with that man. And he's mentally stable.
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Mentally stable king. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Have you guys ah seen anything cool recently?
Tachi's Take on '13 Assassins'
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I went and saw 13 Assassins this morning. The Takashi Miike samurai movie.
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Okay, cool. Was that AFS? No, was at Alamo. They're doing that ah Ghosts of Yotei promo thing. Oh, yeah. Cool. ah was that?
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I've never seen it. It's sick. I loved it. Is it old? ah It's like a decade old. It's it's a remake of a movie from like the 50s.
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I've only seen the the remake, but it's it's a very good movie. Especially if you like the genre.
Review of 'Cure' by Kyoshi Kurosawa
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I finally watched Cure. What's that?
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What do you think? What do you think? Cure is a Kyoshi Kurosawa movie from 1997.
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Move is good. How good? I really liked it. Okay. What'd you rate it? I gave it a four. That's good. and Yeah. I think it's pretty highly rated for a lot of people. What do you have it at, Alex?
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ah Four to five, eight out of ten. I really enjoyed it. but's What's like the premise? ah The synopsis is a detective starts spiraling out of control when a wave of gruesome murders with seemingly similar bizarre circumstances is sweeping Tokyo.
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You had me at detective. Yeah. I love detective movies. I think you you think you should check this one
Recent Movie Viewings and Impressions
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out. And then i also just watched Perfect Days. I still need to see that.
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Okay. I couldn't remember if you had already seen it or if it's still on your watch list. It's still on my watch list. I've been thinking about it every day since I watched it. And I'm just like, I mean, I think, I think you kind of know what the movie's about.
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Kind of just follows this janitor through his day to day life. And at the end of it, you're just kind of just, you're kind of just like smiling and like wanting to like appreciate the small things in life. And like every morning since I've been brushing my teeth, I just think of the movie and I'm just like, all right. That's really nice.
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Today will be a good day. i like I like stories like that. Yeah. What about you, Tachi? I have seen um K-pop Demon Hunters. Watch The Last Night. Let's go.
00:03:58
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Yeah. And then recently we watched Howl's Moving Castle. So another classic. That's always good choice. It's a good good one. Yeah. I've been re-watching um Star Wars.
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It's fun. Of course it's fine. Star Wars.
Rewatching Star Wars and Future Plans
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Just not seven through nine? I'm starting seven right after this episode. Boo! So we'll see. Good luck.
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Well, good luck with nine. Seven and eight have moments where it's okay, but... Yeah. So we'll see. Tachi, have you done your civic duty and watched War the Worlds yet?
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Not quite god damn it. You're supposed to watch on the plane. Sorry. Did you watch wet hot American summer yet?
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I'll get so I'm there they're on my watch list official double feature wet hot American war of the world That's a really good double feature at hot war. Yeah Which one do you do first?
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The one that's intentionally funny or the bad one? what What would you both recommend? i feel like you do it at the same time like
Preview of 'Cold Storage' Trailer
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those subway surfers TikTok videos. yeah Just stacked.
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Yeah.
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It'd be like ultimate brain run. I think that could actually give somebody brain damage. I'll have the audio for one in one ear, the audio for the other in the other ear. Just in a chair, just taking it all in.
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Pretty sure that's how the CIA did their mind control experiment.
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Get back to us for science. Yep. Please do. Have you guys, speaking of science, have you guys seen the ah cold storage trailer? No, i have not.
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What's it about? I you haven't even heard of this. It's ah kind of like a zombie-ish movie where um people get infected by like some sort of fungal virus thing, but Liam Neeson's in it, and so is Joe Keery.
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Oh. so could be Could be fun. I'm intrigued. I'm a big story big Joe
Celebrity Encounters and Public Interactions
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Keery fan. Have I told you guys my Joe Keery story? No. i don't think so.
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OK, so this is um this must have been my junior at UT and maybe was senior year. think was junior year.
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So Post Animal was in town playing at Stubbs. And um if you guys didn't know, Joe Curie was in that band. I don't think he still is because he's gone off and done like his own solo thing.
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But once upon a time, he was in Post Animal. And I have a friend, Shamika, shout out Shamika if you're listening, who um was good friends with either like the opener or or the The managers, they they had like some so or she had some much sort of connection to this show.
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And there was a show after party. Where. um You know, it's just like a show after party and she told me to come by and I didn't.
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I decided to go ride my motorcycle with two buddies out to the Waffle House on 71 towards the airport at midnight. And I got Waffle House at like midnight, one in the morning.
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ah so The next day I i ah see her in class and she's like, oh, my God, like. It was so fun, like I tripped and fell and I looked up and it was Joe Keery and I'm like, why was he there? i was like freaking out. She's like, oh, he's in post animal. It's like.
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If I had known, I would I would have gone. wouldn't have gone to the house. Um, but she she was really nice and, uh, you know, it was just, ah another celebrity. What if at UT, I feel like every time I had the chance to meet somebody, I always missed out on it. So you guys have any like celebrity interaction stories, like meeting anybody?
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I wish I would, I've gotten none. no one you'd you'd ever have heard of. It's all like race car drivers and, That's kind of crazy that you Passed on a Like post show party Like it sounded like it was with the band at least I didn't That sounds like it'd be fun didn't even know like the The problem is I didn't know what a post to animal was Until after Wait, did you go to this show?
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No, I didn't. Oh. I didn't go to the show. i didn't i didn't go to the after party. I was just like, oh, like maybe I'll stop. i I did not know. like like It just sounded like a party. just like Yeah, it just sounded like a thing on like a weird night. And i was like, ah I'll just go to Waffle House.
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Okay, that's fair. Now, like hindsight is, you know, 2020, but that was a particularly tough one. It's up there with um deciding I was going to go down the elevator instead of taking the stairs, ah which was like really rare for me.
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And um if I had taken the stairs, I would have met Matthew McConaughey. Oh, I remember you telling me that. Where was that? It was in the communications building at UT. We had class on the top floor. I always just take the stairs to get the steps in.
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But I was feeling really lazy that morning. I can't even think of any celebrities I've seen, like, just out and about that wasn't some type of event. Like, i don't think I've ever seen someone in the wild. And if I did, like, if I saw...
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I don't know who they like if I saw like Childish Gambino like at the store or something or like anyone famous that like I think would be cool to meet. I don't think I have it in me to go up to them and talk.
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I would want to so badly, but I don't think I would. I would want to. I think I would literally just see them be like, hey, appreciate the moment and then like move on. Like, I i don't know if I could do that.
00:09:52
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I agree with Malik. we um We actually saw the Manning family at Mattel Rancho after a UT game, and we didn't talk to them, but Cooper Manning gave my dad the nod.
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So I feel like that's good enough. I mean, that's acknowledgement. That's something. Yeah. That's cool. I've only... have you guys heard of VidCon? Yeah.
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Yeah. I went, I went to VidCon in 2015 and, um, the only YouTuber I only really ever cared about was Olin Rogers. um Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He would write sketches and and do little funny stuff all the time. But he's also in a sketch group called Balloon Shop.
00:10:35
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But um I saw him walking at the convention center and I wanted so badly to say something, but he looked busy, like like determined walking to something. But...
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That's the only, I guess, celebrity I've seen. Oh, no. I've talked. I talked to Gavin Free, who was in Rooster Teeth, and he was in the Slow Mo Bros.
00:10:57
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I talked to him right outside the convention center. He was really cool. So I guess those are my celebrity moments, but not like a TV star, movie star. Yeah. Austin Butler was here.
00:11:09
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yeah i was just about to bring that up for a ceiling. Yeah. Yeah. For yeah for forgot stealing. He was at, um, what's that bar? What's that bar with the lights? Dirty bills. Dirty bills. Yeah. He was behind the counter and I saw, I saw a tick tock and I was just like, Oh my God.
00:11:23
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Crazy. He and David Fincher were taken around the UT stadium. So I think they were hanging out in McConaughey. Cause I know David Fincher was here too. not ah Not David Fincher, sorry. Darren Aronofsky.
00:11:36
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Oh, I was like, huh? No, it was Aronofsky. Aronofsky directed Costume. Yeah. yeah um But I think they were hanging out with McConaughey because that same night, a mutual friend of ours, Malik, saw McConaughey outside of Sammy's.
00:11:50
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What? Yeah. Every time I go hang out in front of Sammy's, they just tell me to leave. That's what being a star gets you. What?
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um What's this next
Quentin Tarantino's Scrapped Film Discussion
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piece of movie news? Quentin Tarantino scrapped the movie critic because it's quote unquote boring. What does that mean? He thinks that people wouldn't want to watch it. I was actually excited for it.
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I was too. It makes me sad. This is supposed to be his final film. Yeah, his 10th and final film. Oh, it's called the movie critic? Yeah. I think that is such a stupid thing that he put out into the world.
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That he's only going to direct 10 movies. the The last two things I've seen of him, as much as I respect him and like his work, he seems a little high off his own supply because this is why i had David Fincher on the brain.
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um Fincher is adapting like the ah Brad Pitt's character and like a side movie for Once Upon Time in Hollywood. Yeah. And um I guess when it was like, you know, i consider ah David and Fincher, I'd be the two best directors working. So it's like, it's like, ah, buddy, you're not supposed say that about yourself. You know, like he just threw himself in there.
00:13:04
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Yeah. Like if you said, I consider David Fincher the best director working, it'd be like, oh, great. It's like throw yourself in there. It's like, ah. I saw someone say that Quentin Tarantino's probably just pissed that his ninth film would have been the perfect one to end it off on, but he's got this thing with needing to direct 10 films.
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Which I agree. like If Once Upon a Time in Hollywood was his last movie, that feels like a good send-off. he I just feel like there's maybe... like He just put himself into a box, and I feel like it's a lot of pressure yeah to want to do something like this. Because I feel like...
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What was the movie before the movie critic that he said his final was going to be about? Do you remember? no I think it was, ah I thought it was always the movie critic and now it's going to be something else.
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He might just be caught in some vicious cycle where he's never going to feel like it's going to be good enough. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. soos pressure Like it, that's just crazy pressure to work under. Like, yeah. When did you say, say this like decades ago, he's like, yeah, I'm only going to make 10 movies. And now he's, he was like, fuck,
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If he just ups and retire like Daft Punk did because they couldn't ever get it the the next one right, I'm going to cry. i could see it happening. Because that's that is what happened with them. they They had been in the studio for like years and years and years apparently. like People who were close with them confirmed it.
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And then just like a random time in july or January, they were just like, all right, we're done. Retired. Can't do it anymore.
Upcoming Horror Movie 'Good Boy'
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We've got a good boy trailer coming out next week.
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Yeah, have you guys you guys heard about this one? Nope. It's a horror movie in the perspective from the perspective of the family dog. So it's like this family's getting haunted and like the dog is the POV.
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It's like presence, but canine. And hopefully not bad. Has there ever been a movie from the perspective of the villain or like the thing haunting a family?
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That could be neat. That's presence. Yeah, that was presence. That's presence. And it wasn't good. Oh, that's a shame. It was until the last 10 seconds. like know last kid it You were enjoying it way more than I was. i was just pissed the time. I was at least having like a decent time.
00:15:27
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And then just, yeah, the last 10 seconds just threw it under the bus for me. I was like, all right, wrap it up. The lights came up and just threw my popcorn at screen. um This is like a live action Courage the Cowardly Dog.
00:15:40
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Yeah. Cool. I hope nothing happens to the dog. I hope not.
00:15:46
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I hope he talks like Courage. It's going to be the last 10 seconds. He explains the plot. Yeah. The dog looks straight into the camera. this movie is about a haunting from the perspective of a dog.
00:16:01
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Thank you. It's the black. What's this, uh, plagiarism update for together.
Dave Franco's 'Together' Movie Controversy
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Oh yeah. So, um, you guys remember a couple weeks ago, we, we talked about the, uh, accusation of plagiarism for together.
00:16:17
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uh, you know i had said Malik and I had read the Rolling Stone article about it, and it really did not sound good for the yeah the Together crew. um But Dave Franco says they have an extensive paper trail that proves how ridiculous the claims of plagiarism are for Together.
00:16:34
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We have the receipts, and I hope you can understand that we are moving forward and we're going to celebrate this film that we put our literal blood, sweat, and tears into. the ah The Together files are on his desk, and he's going to release them soon.
00:16:47
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Any day now.
00:16:50
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AJ now. I've really enjoyed watching ah Dave Franco and Alison Brie go on this press run. I like them. They seem like a fun time.
00:17:01
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I agree. I don't know why, but they give me like, I like them too, but they also give me like, I noticed your vibe from across the room vibes.
00:17:10
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What does that mean? i think you know what it means. Okay.
00:17:17
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They just give me those vibes. and It's like, It'd probably be kind of weird about it, you know? Yeah. That's all right. I'll take it. They do seem like people that would just be open to almost anything the world has to offer.
00:17:32
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If I saw them on the street, I couldn't... I couldn't say anything. I'd be scared. i would be scared, too. I don't think I'll ever have a celebrity interaction story. Unless they came up to me, they were like, Hey, man, notice your vibe from across the room. Love your podcast.
00:17:49
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Yeah. Are you the director from At First Sight?
00:17:54
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Fucking hated it. But most importantly, the director for Callback.
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All
New Horse Movie and Social Media Buzz
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right. We got anything else before we get into to today's topics? I think we're ready to roll. one last piece of news. The horse movie came out.
00:18:13
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a Horse movie. East of Wall. Peter. it
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Peter.
00:18:25
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You're going I don't want to watch. are You guys going to watch it? I don't. I might have to go see it. I. I will. I saw it in the little like screen above the the theater.
00:18:37
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When I was going in to see 13 assassins today and um I it was like chills, you know, horse movie. It's here.
00:18:49
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i think what helps is having the season pass. Because it doesn't really feel like you're wasting money. I don't know how much a movie ticket is normally. It's like 13 bucks.
00:19:02
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Yeah. It probably pays like the two buck fee. Yeah. Two bucks. See the horse movie. Okay. With that. Watch it be so good. you Just watch it end up but in all of our top tens at the end of the year. I hope.
00:19:19
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Yeah. and It's always the ones with like medium expectations. That's true. You have medium expectations for this? No, that's a stretch. Okay. I feel like the high expectation movies are always the ones that let us down.
00:19:32
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Maybe there's one that we're going to talk about today.
Discussion on 'The Naked Gun 2025'
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We'll see. don don do Our first movie today is The Naked Gun. Am I introing this?
00:19:44
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Go for it. I guess so. I can intro it. The Naked Gun 2025. Only one man has the particular set of skills to lead police squad and save the world.
00:19:57
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This is directed by Akiva Schaefer, most notably from The Lonely Island. And this stars Liam Neeson, Pamela Anderson, and Paul Walter Hauser.
00:20:08
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It's the latest comedy movie. Old school comedy movie back in theaters. Maybe new school comedy movie. Maybe new school. Maybe we're going to get more of these. What do you guys think of this?
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I enjoyed it. I had a good time there. i find that style of comedy. I like it a lot. It's like so just it's so stupid.
00:20:31
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It was so extremely stupid, but it was unrelenting. And I really admire that. It just tries to take itself as. Unserious as possible.
00:20:44
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Like not a single second of like any type of serious. Almost every single line was a joke. For an hour and a half. yeah It's crazy. And like a majority them I thought were funny.
00:20:58
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I got some good laughs. I got some great laughs. Yeah, yeah we'll talk about our our favorite highlight moments, but first we're going to do our Letterboxd High, Medium, and Low, where we read five-star review, three-star review, and a one.
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Today, I'll kick us off with the five-star review of The Naked Gun from user Benedict Townsend, who gave this five stars. And in quotes, it says... People are weird about comedy movies. Ask he yourself, what is their purpose?
00:21:22
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To make you laugh. If a comedy film makes you laugh the throughout, is that not a success? Is that not five stars? Then rate it so, you cowards. Nice. Well said. I've got a three and a half star review by Seth's Reviews.
00:21:37
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Considering there's a new ridiculous bit made every 20 seconds, the hit rate really is pretty exceptional. Probably the most I've laughed in the cinema for a good couple of years. The eruption of Liam Neeson as a comedic leading man is hopefully upon us.
00:21:49
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And that's a three star. I was just saying, he hasn't laughed that hard in the theater in years and gave it three stars. Hmm. He's just stone silent in every other comedy. I guess so.
00:22:01
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And my one star review comes from K-A-E-L-A Kayla. k a e l a Kayla. All caps. Y'all are lying, huh?
00:22:13
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Four exclamation marks. This movie is like hanging out with the most insufferable, unfunny person you can imagine, but multiply it by a thousand. Watch at your own freaking risk of, in all caps again, cringe.
00:22:30
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I will. Yeah, I also will.
00:22:36
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If that's the unfunniest person you know, Kayla, then you are really blessed. I would love a group. Funnier than that? about like a thousand ah Just a group of a thousand people as funny as this to just always be around.
00:22:54
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Now, what are your general thoughts on this movie? Let's get into it. Let's get into it. I had a good time. Have you guys seen the original? haven't.
00:23:04
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Not yet. Have you guys seen Airplane? Nope. I've seen clips. I know the Shirley, Shirley line. Okay. um So I watched the original. um With.
00:23:19
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you know, everyone from the that the yeah the the reboot kind of makes a makes reference to watch it like two weeks ago. And I mean, beat for beat, it's like the same movie.
00:23:34
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um It's like a different case, obviously, but the the the style of humor is exactly the same. It's just kind of aged a little more modern. um And I don't mean that from like, a oh like now it's all PC, you know, woke, ruined the naked gun. No, it's literally just like geared. It's the same humor in like a modern sense, um which i'm I'm really glad they kind of rolled with that because I don't think changing it up that much would have made as funny of a movie.
00:24:04
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Because, like, I mean, everyone went in like expecting, like, one specific style. And feel like changing it would just be it would be dumb. But it's not something I would put a studio past.
00:24:15
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So I was really glad to see that they stuck with, like, a tried-and-true formula. Even if it was a very formulaic Naked Gun movie. Yeah, and I think that can be, like, a lot of the problems that we see with some of these, like, older reboots. Or these newer reboots from from these older movies.
00:24:28
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Just trying to... like force the change of, I guess, like how comedic elements or have changed. And when that change is like present in the newer reboot, it just it just doesn't feel the same and it doesn't work.
00:24:42
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So yeah, I am glad to see um that they kind of stuck to the guns here. It also gives me hope for the Scary Movie 6 movie. Scary Movie 6 movie.
00:24:54
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That's going to be coming out soon. Like I hope that it's... Just like the originals. Like that would be a really good time if it is. I just realized that I saw Scary Movie 5 in theaters.
00:25:10
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Did you really? I did and I don't know why. I don't remember what like 4 and 5 were kind of like about. think I've always seen first one or two.
00:25:24
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Which one had the War of the Worlds? Definitely not the first. No. Anyway, we're we're getting off on a tangent. But yeah, I'm hoping that like that they take the same kind of route in in keeping that that same humor instead of kind of dialing things down.
00:25:40
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when the When the first trailer dropped for the Naked Gun reboot, I was pretty skeptical. Just because the clips that they showed weren't really that funny. It was probably my least favorite bits of the whole movie.
00:25:52
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um But once I saw that Akiva Schaefer was... ah attached and directing. um i had a lot more confidence yeah going into this just because I'm a huge Lonely Island fan. So I was hoping for like a Lonely Island cameo from like the other two at some point during the movie.
00:26:13
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But it's okay that it didn't happen. um Let's call out some of our favorite quotes and moments. Who wants to start us off? I can start. um The scene probably that got us all heart the hardest was the the crab man scene.
00:26:28
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I know that guy.
00:26:32
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In the evil lair. i was wearing shorts and I hit my leg. I hit my leg when I laugh. And it made such a loud noise. it was literally just like... And Cam hit me she was like, don't hate your leg.
00:26:45
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Knee slapping fun. Truly. Like a Looney Tunes cartoon. I do be slapping my knees. he just he would not drop the craft claws.
00:26:58
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I love the bit um when Liam Neeson goes into like that hall to be like alone with his dad. And there's the picture of Frank Drebin Sr. And then like every character has ah like a son in Police Squad.
00:27:14
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And they get to Oche Simpson. He's just... The guy's just like... dead We're not going to do this. like and least straight to show that Yeah, they showed that in the trailer. And every time I saw it in the trailer, like it always got laughs in the theater.
00:27:29
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And it was still funny, like seeing it in the actual movie. When Alamo did their, um like, you guys showed up late, so you didn't see it. um When Alamo did their, ah like, the pre-show, like, real thing they always do, they did, like, the Naked Gun ABCs, and um for n they did Nordberg, and they showed, like, an OJ clip, and then they're like, wait, maybe not. And then for O, it's like, O is for OJ Susan.
00:27:58
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They're like, oh, not again. Um... Starting the first one and then seeing OJ Simpson come on screen was crazy. I had no idea he was in it.
00:28:10
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i I just don't understand why everyone gets in a tizzy about a guy who didn't do it.
00:28:26
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wanted to stop you.
00:28:29
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I mean, it just... Like, real talk, what OJ did was, I mean, it's crazy. It's insane. I mean, rushing for 2,000 yards in 14 games is... God.
00:28:45
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That's something to remember. Molly, what was your favorite scene?
00:28:51
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The crab bit. Has to be my favorite. he did Like the second he pulls out his phone, it's like the way the camera is just cutting between like he's trying to tell everybody their plans and he's just like, oh, like the crab people.
00:29:06
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He's like, yeah, they got like tentacles and everything. He moves on and he's got his phone. See, this is what he looks like. I know that guy.
00:29:15
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I actually really loved the the horror transition. i felt like I was the only one laughing. yeah Oh yeah, that was really good too. I liked that a lot.
00:29:26
Speaker
I didn't know where it was going. It went on way longer than I thought it would. The snowman had a vibe to him. yeah He really did. He knows their vibe from across the room.
00:29:38
Speaker
That's where I thought the scene was going. It kind of did for a second. It is where it went.
00:29:47
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I um there was a missed opportunity, though, for the snowman to be. Or Frank to be sitting in a chair in the corner during that scene. yeah that would have been the funniest scene in the movie if they had had the balls to do that.
00:30:00
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Give him a cocktail. Yeah. The naked cook. Would you guys watch another one of these? Absolutely. Yeah, probably would.
00:30:11
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Who could you see if Liam Neeson couldn't do these movies anymore? Is there anyone else that you could see taking over this kind of role? Who is like an older, serious actor that we've never really seen do comedy? Because that's the that's the formula so far. Yeah.
00:30:29
Speaker
Hmm. Wait, I have an idea, but I'm blanking on the name one second. Imagine Tom Cruise in one of these movies. I don't think he would go for it. Cillian Murphy. Hmm.
00:30:41
Speaker
But i it's not him. I think that's why could work. I think he could do a really deadpan. Yeah. I think that's exactly why it could work. I like it. Because Liam Neeson has not done this.
00:30:55
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De Niro? I don't think. Oh, that could work. De Niro's been in so many terrible comedies. Yeah, he was on Meet the Parents. It could work. Meet the parents isn't terrible. That's not. No, meet the fuckers. So.
00:31:09
Speaker
Meet the parents is great. Meet the parents is great. um I think they're making another one. I wouldn't surprise me. Meet the grandkids. I don't know. Let me see. Hold on. I feel like I saw something recently about this.
00:31:22
Speaker
Little Fockers was really bad. yeah It was. It's not surprising. Reboot. I don't know why that was killing evers the only one that came to mind of like someone I would really not suspect to be in a slapstick comedy.
00:31:39
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Focker in law. It's coming out in November of 2026. Ben Stiller and Robert De Niro will reprise their roles in Focker in law, the fourth movie in the meet the parents series while Ariana Grande joins the cast.
00:31:54
Speaker
Ooh, what about Joaquin Phoenix? That would work. That would work. That would work. That's the one. Joaquin, if you're listening. We'll write you a script.
00:32:07
Speaker
We'll get in touch with your people. We'll get with the Lonely Island boys and we'll make something work. We'll make it happen. um yeah there's not a lot you There's not a lot to say about this movie. Just it's stupid. It's really stupid, but it's really fun.
00:32:20
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Yeah, I mean, that's that's about it.
00:32:25
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i I can't really have like any notes to bring into this. I didn't either. I've been waiting for you guys to say like Like a word so I can make a riff off of it and we just haven't. And.
00:32:38
Speaker
A certain word, like a certain word.
Introduction to 'Weapons' and Review Setup
00:32:40
Speaker
Yeah, like like a word like Shirley. So I could be like, like you're Shirley. Oh, OK. OK. You know. Yeah. ah I mean, Tachi did one earlier. but he said it in the context of the joke.
00:32:53
Speaker
Like he referenced it. didn't. You know. OK. Surely there's another movie could talk about on this podcast, right? There's gotta be.
00:33:05
Speaker
was saying, is there just, I mean, the naked gun has me thinking like guns, you know, arms, but is there another movie we could talk about that came out recently?
00:33:18
Speaker
Surely there is. Surely. um'm being serious. Don't call me Shirley. Surely.
00:33:26
Speaker
What i mean could we talk about that is gun-related? A gun is a type of weapon. Wait a minute. Say that again.
00:33:40
Speaker
Weapons.
00:33:44
Speaker
Oh, we should talk about weapons. Oh, that's a good one. didn't even think of that. Yeah, it seems like everyone's talking about that one. We could do it, too. we um We actually have been getting requests. It was it was so funny. um The day our.
00:34:02
Speaker
The day our snack shack. know summer movie episode dropped. ah I got a. I got our message. And it was where's the weapons episode.
00:34:14
Speaker
And I'm like it. We got to change our scheduling. We're going to have to. Yeah. I think it was fine like starting it. because nothing was really coming out.
00:34:25
Speaker
And we said that so many times, but then the back half of the year is now here. And the last three months, it's been tough. Yeah, and we're getting some good stuff.
00:34:35
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We might need to like actually plan. um But yeah, weapons. um I feel like it's probably i mean, it is the most popular movie on Letterboxd right now.
00:34:48
Speaker
It is the one being talking about, um you know, we had all said we were super excited for it. So let's hop into it. I'm excited to talk about this one.
00:34:58
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Yeah, so I'll intro this one for us. um Weapons 2025, directed by Zach Kreger. Last night at 2.17 a.m., every child from Mrs. Gandy's class woke up, got out of bed, went downstairs, opened the front door, walked in the dark, and they never came back.
00:35:18
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This one stars Julia Garner, Josh Brolin, brolin um Alden Ehrenrich, Austin Abrams, Benedict Wong, um and Amy Madigan.
00:35:29
Speaker
With a couple fun cameos. With a couple fun cameos indeed. What were your guys' thoughts on this one? Leading up to it, like you said, I was very excited for it.
00:35:42
Speaker
I had a really fun time with Barbarian. um I think I'll be excited to see like anything Krager puts out. um And so I think the hype around around this one was real. It felt like it kind of went out of the general like bubble of like movie niches and just was appealing to a wider audience. And so I feel like there's just a lot of talk about it.
00:36:06
Speaker
People are loving it really feels like it's a ah good year for horror. um so I was really excited for it. Walking out of the theater, I think I had mixed feelings. Which we'll definitely be able to dive into, um especially kind of when it comes to the overall structure of the movie.
00:36:25
Speaker
So I'm curious to to hear how how how the structure worked for you guys. But um what was you guys's general feeling coming out? I was really excited like you were, um as this is the second, I guess, big release from him since Barbarian. I really enjoyed Barbarian, which is strange because i never go out of my way to watch horror.
00:36:46
Speaker
It's usually thrust upon me. But um I ah really like what Kregor does and i guess what he has to say. And um I was pretty pleased with it.
00:36:59
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i don't I still don't know if I enjoyed it as much as Barbarian, but in terms of, I guess, the experience as a whole, it was it was a pretty fun time.
00:37:11
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What you, Alex? I kind of agree with Malik. I think as best as I tried to avoid any sort of promotional material, um, I did fall into a trap of like building an expectation for the movie.
00:37:24
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Um, and it was honestly like a, like a critique of mine. It's not even a critique. It's just like a I guess just like a you know taste thing. But um I was super excited going in and I liked it.
00:37:39
Speaker
I like this movie, um but I'm not sure I like this movie a lot. But I had a good time and I am in the camp where I am excited for anything Zack Cracker does. But yeah now I think I'll have a properly calibrated expectation going into it.
00:37:56
Speaker
Yeah, I think so, too. I don't like I don't know. kind of like what my expectations were coming into it, like especially knowing what Barbarian was, i think I just fell for, like I fell for the marketing for it to be something else. And when it turned into something else, I was just like, oh yeah, like, yeah, this this makes total sense.
Horror and Comedy Blend in 'Weapons'
00:38:20
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yeah um But yeah, let's kick off the deep dive discussion discussion with our Letterboxd High, Medium, and Low.
00:38:25
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um I'll start us off with the five star. This is from user David Chen. Without a doubt, one of the most exceptional pieces of filmmaking I've ever seen.
00:38:36
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In awe of how shocking, effective, upsetting, and occasionally hilarious this was. Crager cements himself as a master of horror. Honestly think people will be talking about this movie for decades. I have thoughts on this one.
00:38:48
Speaker
But oh I'll throw it to Hitachi for the three star. Sure. This one's by the Oscar expert. Three and a half stars. Extremely enjoyable thrill ride with engrossing story selling, great performances, and fun tonal shifts.
00:39:02
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One of the biggest pure hoots of the year. It has nothing up its sleeves. It works so well as a pure thrill that this is forgivable. At the same time, there are many compelling dramatic threads that are just for naught.
00:39:15
Speaker
Which makes sense. And I'm sure we'll get into that later. say I have ah some thoughts on it being the biggest hoot of the year. um But our one star review comes from Drool Ghoul.
00:39:29
Speaker
Nice. If I had a nickel for every time a best horror of the year turned out to be a boring, pretentious, badly written, totally incoherent. um Naughty word.
00:39:41
Speaker
Directed by this man. i would have two nickels, which isn't a lot, but I'm furious that it happened twice. For the five star review, I want to go back to Craig or Cements himself as a master of horror.
00:39:55
Speaker
I've seen this term get thrown around a lot in calling Craig a master of horror. It's just not true. I'm sorry.
00:40:06
Speaker
i like Craig or I've I like his work on White as Kids. You know, i think he's hilarious. I liked Barbarian a lot. I liked this movie. He's not a master of horror.
00:40:17
Speaker
Not after two movies, even if you thought they were great horror movies. that's I think that's why that's my biggest thing. Two movies is not enough to cement yourself ask them as a master of horror.
00:40:29
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So do you think he's more along the lines of like a Jordan Peele kind of level?
00:40:37
Speaker
Because in a way, they're pretty similar directors. I wouldn't even say that. I think like Jordan Peele's movies have like a much different like vibe to them.
00:40:51
Speaker
From what we're seeing with Krager from Barbarian and and Weapons, is I think with his comedy elements, I think he does a great job in blending the two together, which we'll which we'll get into a little bit later.
00:41:06
Speaker
But it feels like... like It feels like one has to go with the other for his movies. Whereas like Peele, they're not real they're not comedic. There might be comedic aspects of it, but like like watching Weapons and watching Barbarian, I'm like, we're supposed to be laughing. like This is ridiculous and it is funny.
00:41:26
Speaker
um But like the way Peele would do any type of comedy in his horror movies, fair I don't think is the same at all. I think Peele's very Hitchcockian, where his movies are...
00:41:38
Speaker
They should be viewed as at least like a thriller, kind of. Like there is like something very serious going on in this movie. Like the tone, I think, is different through all of his, but they're all like serious. Like none of it's a joke.
00:41:51
Speaker
That's fair. You know, like they're like and like you said, there are jokes, but there's not like the whole like half the movie isn't a bit. Yeah. Yeah, Krieger feels like he'll lead us up into like a really big bit by the end of it.
00:42:09
Speaker
And you see that in the third act of Barbarian, and you see that in the third act of Weapons. yeah Which is fine. like that's not a It's not to say that that he shouldn't be doing that, or or that it's a a negative towards towards his film his filmmaking style or anything. that's just I just think it is what it is.
00:42:26
Speaker
I also think it kind of precludes him from the master of horror... like ever really. Is there anyone either of you would consider as a master of horror or close to it?
00:42:42
Speaker
That's a great question. That is a great question. I feel like we would just have to look back. Like a couple decades at least. I can't. I wouldn't call like anyone.
00:42:53
Speaker
That were. That is kind of relevant right now. With like less than five films under their belt. As like a master of anything. Not to say that they're not great. And I don't love them. Like I'm thinking. Like Robert Eggers.
00:43:04
Speaker
Like I love his movies. I wouldn't go off in the street saying he's a master. ah horror. Because he's still. He's still new. Like he's still like fresh to this you know. Also like half his movies aren't even horror movies.
00:43:16
Speaker
Yeah. Like. The only two that I think counter Nosferatu and the the witch. The vich. The vich. But I mean, because here's the thing.
00:43:29
Speaker
I think, and and this is this is totally a personal opinion. I think to be a true master of horror, your movies have to be really scary. I am not a huge fan of the comedy and horror movies trend that seems to be popping up.
00:43:50
Speaker
I'm a very big fan of like serious horror. um And I think that's what I expected. I don't know why I expected this movie to be that.
00:44:02
Speaker
um But I expected to be really serious. ah Maybe it's because it was like the the subject matter was kids disappearing. And I thought like, oh, this is going to be like he's going to switch it up instead of barbarian where it's like a bait and switch. Like it's going to be like a really strange like mystery movie.
00:44:19
Speaker
That hes what ah was my thought. Yeah. I think that's interesting what you said that you don't really like the blending of comedy and horror. And I think that's a really big talking point um for i like it for this. I like it. I don't love it. And I think it will always preclude me from giving like a super high praise to like a horror movie. Cause mean, like my two favorite horror movies are the exorcist and hereditary. Yeah.
00:44:46
Speaker
I don't think either of those movies have even ah hint of comedy in them. But they're terrifying. It's the atmosphere. It's just like sitting and watching it and in dread because you know something bad is going to happen.
00:45:00
Speaker
And William Friedkin and Ari Aster both play that human emotion so well and deliver like a great atmosphere instead of relying off of like co-worker horror jump scares.
Suspense Techniques in 'Weapons'
00:45:13
Speaker
They really play like they they really play like the human ocean. And I actually think Zack Kreger. Has that ability. um there's There's the the scene in this movie that makes me think that is the one where Julia Garner is sitting outside the house in the car. and She falls asleep.
00:45:33
Speaker
Oh, yeah. um I won't spoil it for anyone who wants to see it. um But this scene, I think, does tension very, very well. And I remember in Barbarian when um they were exploring the tunnel system, there was also a really good layer of like, ooh, don't go in there. And also like the interpersonal interaction um with ah Bill Skarsgård and I'm forgetting her name again, Malik. Oh, we did. We went through this already. Georgina Campbell with Bill Skarsgård and Georgina Campbell.
00:46:09
Speaker
Where like the tension was done really well. But yeah, I'm interested for your guys' thoughts on that. Yeah, that car scene was for sure the most unsettling, i think.
00:46:22
Speaker
A problem that I guess was kind of unspoken everything that you just said was that a lot of those moments in this movie were just more gnarly than scary, like violent and just kind of jarring.
00:46:41
Speaker
Whereas it's not scary. It's just like, oh my God, like what am I watching right now? Yeah. Type of thing. Kind of tough to look at. Shocking. it's It's difficult because like... I do think comedy and horror can go well together.
00:47:00
Speaker
So I just want to preface that kind of before it I get into it. Like I do think that they can go hand in hand. You're about to whip us with a huge butt.
00:47:13
Speaker
But I just like... and A lot of the conversation I've been seeing is the people that love the comedy and horror and then the people that don't. And then I think the thing that's frustrating to see online is someone kind of expressing their emotions and feelings with saying they didn't love the comedy horror aspect and then getting them getting attacked saying, oh, you just didn't get it.
00:47:35
Speaker
You're stupid. Like... You're an idiot. Oh, remember the one, the one I sent you the night of on Instagram. What did it say? I'm trying to pull it up right now, but there was one, it was like some poor girl got like, like Oh yeah.
00:47:50
Speaker
So this girl goes, I hated it. Generally don't understand why everyone thinks it's so good, but to each their own. Someone replies unironically, maybe watch more movies. Weapons is a literal master class on how to write a
Online Reactions and Divisive Opinions on 'Weapons'
00:48:03
Speaker
script. It's kind of like Paul Thomas Anderson's Magnolia with the aspect of several people. But it's just I mean, getting shredded for it.
00:48:11
Speaker
It was like a one sentence thing. And this guy was just like, watch more movies. like an And then like if you scroll farther down it, like some other person chimes in and says the main girl's opinion isn't valid.
00:48:26
Speaker
She's like, well, some opinions just aren't valid. And like the main girl's like, what the hell? And I agree. Like no one should be like that. Every opinion is valid when it comes to critiquing a movie.
00:48:39
Speaker
On the other hand, personal will taste. Yeah. I will say, despite all of the annoying discourse I think there's been about this movie, I think it's great to see this many people engage with a movie like this. Right. i you know agree. like Especially a horror movie. like you know like Even if I like find myself frustrated, like in the back of my mind, I'm always thinking, this is cool.
00:49:02
Speaker
Like this movie is making a lot of money right now. A lot of people are seeing it and talking about it and like, yeah, a ton of money. And they're just, I just think, I just think that's really cool. Um, you guys want to go kind of chapter by chapter?
00:49:16
Speaker
Sure. All right.
Chapter-by-Chapter Analysis of 'Weapons'
00:49:18
Speaker
Let's start off with what is her name? Justine's Justine's chapter. So we'll get into the spoiler discussion now. So if you haven't seen it,
00:49:28
Speaker
Turn it off. Go watch it and then come back. If you don't care, keep listening. um Justine's chapter, Julia Garner. This movie is split up into six chapters.
00:49:40
Speaker
Which I thought was a choice.
00:49:46
Speaker
Justine kicks us off. a Paul Thomas Anderson choice, actually. It's a Magnolia choice. You just wouldn't get it. um This movie kicks off with a narration from what sounds like a little girl telling us the backstory of kind of where we're at in this town and what's happened to these kids.
00:50:04
Speaker
And we were introduced to Justine, who is the teacher of the classroom where the majority of these children have disappeared. I say majority because all but one have vanished.
00:50:17
Speaker
She seems new to this town. We're seeing her in a town hall kind of just really getting the blame for some reason. I mean, there's a lot of parents that are frustrated and scared. They don't know what's happened to their children. I'm not sure, like, how much time has passed from the actual disappearance to to this to this meeting. But, I mean, people, they want Justine's head.
00:50:37
Speaker
And they're stalking her. She's paranoid. And I think there's... Like you said earlier, Alex, there's a lot of really good like like tension building in this. And I was really interested to see like to see where this is going.
00:50:51
Speaker
Especially like the door knocking scene. like that That just felt so classic to me. And like I was just like waiting with bated breath. And I was just i was i was in it. like this i mean, this movie like hooks you pretty quick, yeah I would say.
00:51:05
Speaker
i agree. i agree. i was Because ah at this point in the movie, you had no idea what the direction was. just knew it was weird. Weird things were happening. didn't know if it was paranormal.
00:51:17
Speaker
You didn't know if it was just like something weird's happening. Like, you know, people people be tripping. um Kids be leaving. Kids. Kids be leaving at 217. T-Post.
00:51:29
Speaker
um tepot
00:51:34
Speaker
Naruto running down the street. Half of Naruto run. Yeah. But it like I was just so intrigued by it. what did they What did they write on her car?
00:51:46
Speaker
Witch. Witch. Okay. or yeah Witch.
00:51:53
Speaker
Robert Kregers? Nine months Kregnant?
00:52:00
Speaker
Am I Kreganinate? No.
00:52:04
Speaker
No, yeah, I just, the tension building in the first act is great. How do we, I was fully enthralled in the mystery. How does Justine's chapter end? is it Does it end at the gas station?
00:52:14
Speaker
Yeah, gas station. Which was like, Like I thought that's when we were like really getting into it seeing Mark. Well, we don't know it's Marcus at this point. Yeah. But we're seeing somebody else, an adult figure this time running towards her in the same T pose that we see the children running while she's having a confrontation with Josh Brolin's character at the gas station.
00:52:34
Speaker
And like at that point, I was just like, oh, my God, like, here we go. And then it ends. Yeah. And then we're kicked into a new point of view. How did you guys feel once you kind of understood what was happening?
00:52:49
Speaker
Like that the story was going back in time? Yeah, that the that we were going with a completely new character. I was a little blue-balled, but...
00:53:01
Speaker
I don't really mind the storytelling, like time manipulation. it it really didn't get to me that much. I, I kind of liked seeing the origin point for all of these, all the, all the main players in the story.
00:53:19
Speaker
Um, but I can see why it would be incredibly frustrating for other people. I was, hopeful that it wouldn't get too bloated yeah so i was like there's a lot they've introduced a lot of characters in this movie and like a lot of things are happening so um i wanted i was a little worried that we were gonna see just too much jumping around um i had kind of figured it was going to happen at least based off of uh like the way it opens the chapter one you know
00:53:51
Speaker
um Mrs. Gandy or whatever her name is. um I kind of figured that they were going to do something like that. But like right as it got really good, I talked to you. You're right. just was like, oh, come on. Like, just let me let me see what happens.
00:54:09
Speaker
And I think for that first one, I was just like, like, I was like, oh, And then we see the title card for Archer, and I was like, okay, like, all right, we're going to see Josh Brolin's pro point of view now. But as it went on, so I think I was okay with the first switch.
00:54:24
Speaker
Then we got the second, and then the third, and then the fourth. And I was just like, oh, okay. And I just felt like it was a rollercoaster. Like, as soon as we were at, like, the top, about to make that drop, we're back out with somebody else.
00:54:38
Speaker
By, like, the fifth or sixth one, I was like, ah... Switch is about to happen, isn't it? Yeah. Then it switched. So I was on board with it in the beginning without the knowledge that it was going to happen five more times.
00:54:54
Speaker
But like, I'm trying to think about it now and and seeing the names and the chapters listed out. I don't know if i would appreciate the characters as much as I did without seeing how they all ended up, how they ended up.
00:55:09
Speaker
Like once things really started rolling, each one just seems pretty important. And each one was entertaining in its own way, especially with the crackhead one.
00:55:20
Speaker
Yeah. We'll, yeah, we'll, we'll get there. Yeah. We'll, we'll, we'll get there. Um, I definitely see what you're saying. Like I was going to say, like, what if we didn't include Marcus's chapter?
00:55:32
Speaker
But that is such a huge lore drop in the story. So how do you not include that? Like, how can you explain, you know, ah Gladys without the Marcus chapter?
00:55:46
Speaker
I mean, I think there's ways. Well, sure. You know, i don't know what those ways would be, but... We have to, like, think about it more than just... kicking our feet up on the pod yeah yeah um what'd you guys think of archers i liked archers a lot me too archers might be my favorite i think i agree it might be my favorite because there was so much it's my favorite and also the one where i'm left wanting more because there was there was so much meat on the bone there like
00:56:21
Speaker
He's having these constant dreams about about this kid. We see him wake up laying in his kid's bed, which was just like ah heartbreaking image to see.
00:56:31
Speaker
Obviously, his marriage is in shambles. We see his wife walk into the room and just say that she's going to work. in the That one line told so much. I loved that line and the delivery.
00:56:42
Speaker
Whoever that wife was, she crushed that line. It was perfect. She her five seconds of fame and she ran with it. I love that. So, and kind of just seeing the, like the effects that losing his kid has taken on Archer and he's wanting to take things into his own hands. Like he's marching down ah to the police station, like demanding, like, what are you guys doing? Like, what can I do?
00:57:04
Speaker
Like, what are the updates? And really trying to take things into his own hands. And then we also get the Justin Long cameo in this one. Yeah. Which that was a fun surprise. Yeah. And the girl from ah Aquamarine.
00:57:18
Speaker
I actually thought the Justin Long thing was um like, it's happening again. he got me. I wanted a little more of him, but it's okay. What if every Zack Greger movie was just shoehorning Justin Long into the plot? I feel like he might just make cameos and in every single one of them.
00:57:37
Speaker
It's just a huge bit. I loved the mystery aspect of Archer's one, too. yeah like Him starting to like figure things out and take things into his own hands.
00:57:48
Speaker
I mean, that was what i was there for. was there to solve like the mystery. like What happened to these kids? Why did they all run out of the house? Yeah. And where did they run to? I do like that he is the one...
00:58:00
Speaker
figuring out the central point of where these kids went. I've seen a lot of people upset. They're just like, what, the cops didn't do this. Like the cops couldn't figure that out. Like that's so easy. And I'm like, I mean, I think that's the point is showing like these cops really aren't like up to par in doing their jobs.
00:58:17
Speaker
That it's yeah up to the citizens, up to the parents that are, that are taking charge of, of finding their children. So I really liked that aspect of it. Yeah, and and the Paul chapter kind of highlights their their inadequacies, I guess.
00:58:31
Speaker
Yeah, I'll throw it to one of you guys for Paul. What'd you guys think? Paul was interesting. there's ah There's a lot of different dynamics going on between him and Justine, him and the, ah i guess the sheriff.
00:58:44
Speaker
I don't know what title he has, but his wife's dad. um A lot to unpack there, but did a good job of Shining a light on broken relationships, on how pitiful people can be, and just sort of how you find yourself in absurd situations, which he kind of did almost every moment of his chapter.
00:59:13
Speaker
He never really caught a break, but it was also a lot of that was self-inflicted. Very true. It was entertaining, but A lot of it wasn't really critical to the story.
00:59:28
Speaker
It was just, I don't know, peeling the layers of of a character. Yeah. This is kind of where it started to lose me a little bit. I was like, oh, like they're going to do this for everybody. And then um I just didn't feel like... yeah like It was just like...
00:59:50
Speaker
Like now I'm sitting through like a lot of stuff that I don't care about to get to what I care about. I got to see him and Julia Garnerly again. and then like, well, what happened with his wife? And just like, and it's like, oh, I was going to build it. Like, what's this going to build up to? And then it builds up to something where it's just like, i don't care about that either.
01:00:08
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Right.
01:00:11
Speaker
Um, it like I enjoyed it. i had some fun with it, but it wasn't. It's just like, ah, like I feel like it was a huge tonal shift in the movie.
01:00:23
Speaker
It took. Was the next one James? and that was The next one is James. One Marcus. Next one is James. You could you could take us to James if you'd like. Okay, I'll... Yeah, James is where we go next. James is this... He's the homeless drug addict character.
01:00:40
Speaker
And... Again, this is one where it just really... Like, really lost me. Because we're seeing, like, a perspective of, like, some guy who just showed up. He doesn't seem all that important to the plot, and he kind of... Is.
01:00:56
Speaker
Is, but not really. Like, he just... He doesn't really... My problem with the... the um Like, these last two ones is this just, like... If you were to remove them entirely... Nothing really changes.
01:01:17
Speaker
Except for the end... Except for the end, like, ah confrontation. yeah They don't really lead to anywhere. They don't add like a new wrinkle.
01:01:28
Speaker
and it's like in hindsight, it's just like, it feels like a lot of wasted space, especially because we're waiting to get back to this whole time We're waiting to get back to the gas station. because seeing what happens to Archer and Miss Gandy and Marcus yeah Justine's ends on the gas station go back and then Archer's ends on the gas station yeah and then yeah you're really just like what happened at the gas station it's like I don't want to watch this guy shoot up in a tent I don't care.
01:02:00
Speaker
um We, I mean, i don't care about it in the movie. I do care that, you know, people be shooting up in tents and that's not good. I don't think that it's okay. Yeah. are We, we had to clarify. Okay. You know,
01:02:16
Speaker
I did have some I did have fun, though, with James's story. Like at that point, I kind of just had to let go. I was like, all right, well, yeah, just cares about the gas theyre at this point? Yeah, I'm just like accepting. Yeah, I just accepted the right. And so there were a lot of aspects to James's story that I really liked. He did have like one of the funniest ah line reads, I think, in the movie when he breaks into Alex's house at first and he's just looking for stuff to sell.
01:02:42
Speaker
sees the DVD of Willow. He's just like oh, fuck Willow.
01:02:48
Speaker
I thought that was really good. um What is he doing in my house? Yeah, that house sequence was pretty interesting. thats That's when his chapter got me hooked.
01:02:59
Speaker
Yeah. i was like, oh my God. I do think it's really like it's It's the end of this chapter. Yeah. Yeah. It's interesting. And it's funny to see, to be with a character like this in this type of movie, who was just trying to get money for drugs, knowing what he finds in the house.
01:03:22
Speaker
going to the pawn shop and then just like that second look to the, to the missing poster. And then just like the slight camera shift to the $50,000. I'm like, that's good. That's really funny. And I really liked how I, how that tied back into Paul's story of James walking to the police station yeah for a completely different reason that has nothing to do with Paul, but he sees Paul and then that begins their kind of, kind of conflict. So I do think on the topic of line reads, do you have AIDS is crazy.
01:03:58
Speaker
I don't think so. but Hepatitis. No, not that I know of.
01:04:08
Speaker
And then we get to Marcus. I see why this is here. But as soon as it said Marcus on the screen, i kind of just like audibly sighed. I was like, all right.
01:04:22
Speaker
It was a little shorter than the previous chapters, but yeah, I i get it. And like it sucks because like there are aspects for each chapter that I did really enjoy some more than others.
01:04:36
Speaker
I think just like all together and cohesively, again, that's just... Yeah, it's just getting edged the whole time.
01:04:48
Speaker
Yeah, and to Alex's point, if you take out Paul and James, their chapters, Justin and Archer were going to end up where they ended up, like regardless. So they they really were needless in the grand scheme of things, but what can you do?
01:05:06
Speaker
But with Marcus, it's a little more pivotal for the audience. I agree that it's pivotal. I also think that, I mean, this is the one where we're like fully introduced to Gladys as a character.
01:05:19
Speaker
i think there was a little bit too much Gladys in this sequence. Because then like when Alex's chapter comes up and we kind of see like, oh, like here's what happened.
01:05:31
Speaker
It's just like, I think the initial like shock of Gladys has kind of worn off. And so she's like, she's kind of lost her, her zip or aura.
01:05:44
Speaker
Yeah. By the time that we we get to the end where I think it really should have all been building to the end. And we saw like a minimal amount of her. Yeah, that's a good point. Maybe I'll take back what I said before.
01:05:57
Speaker
We probably don't need the Marcus chapter because everything that was revealed in that is repeated with Alex and his family, essentially. Yeah. Alex's chapter does feel like just the rins of rinse and repeat of just letting us know, like, hey, remember, this is where we are. The kids are gone, by the way. I don't know if you guys forgot that, but this is what happened. And and here's the backstory and everything.
01:06:21
Speaker
it It felt like a v like that specific segments felt like a vehicle for some like body horror type scares. Yeah. That was about it. And they were really good. but get me wrong i was like oh like watching them um but it was just like we're just we're we're spinning our tires trying to get to the the climax and we're we're just not we need to find better references and euphemisms
01:06:54
Speaker
um Did you guys see the, ah so in the Marcus scene, the seven hot dogs that him and his husband are eating? It was like a reference to a Why Does Kids You Know sketch. Did you guys see that?
01:07:06
Speaker
No. i I did see the amount of hot dogs, but I didn't realize it was a reference to a sketch. Yeah, i was like it was a sketch with ah with Trevor Moore who passed away. um He's a doctor. And he's seeing one of his patients. ah I forget exactly how it goes.
01:07:19
Speaker
But he's just asking, what do you usually eat or do you eat today? And he's like, oh, seven hot dogs. And he's like like, today? Yeah. yeah Do you normally eat seven hot dogs? And so, um, I saw that and I thought that was really nice. Uh, like a really nice nod to his friend. Uh, speaking of nods, I, I said this to Malik when we saw it, i don't know, Tachi, if you heard this, but, um, the movie was released on the day of Trevor Moore's passing, like the anniversary.
01:07:45
Speaker
I didn't know that. It's nice. Yeah. Um, When I did see the hot dog, the the plates of the hot dogs, I was like, wow, that's a respectable amount of hot dogs. I was on board.
01:07:57
Speaker
if They're doing a 999. love dogs.
01:08:01
Speaker
Alex's chapter was pretty lengthy. I mean, it goes basically until the end of the movie. i I like Alex. I like Alex as a character and an actor.
01:08:12
Speaker
and do too. um Really good performance from him. Agreed. The most unbelievable thing about the movie, though, and I know people have joked about it online, is just the sheer amount of cans of soup that he had to buy.
01:08:25
Speaker
There's no way no reported that. Especially in the midst of all this chaos. Right.
01:08:37
Speaker
The one kid who didn't go missing is buying 30 cans of soup.
01:08:46
Speaker
like Someone much should look into that. ah Kid likes soup.
01:08:52
Speaker
You never had a soup phase? Big soup kid. Maybe he was bowling for it. wow Boo.
01:09:02
Speaker
Well, now that we're in the Alex chapter... How do we feel about the end? Everything going down in the house. I liked it and I didn't love it.
01:09:13
Speaker
Yeah. It's complicated. Was I entertained? Yes. Very, actually. Very, very entertained. But like I said earlier, it just felt like this movie was just all leading up to this one bit.
01:09:27
Speaker
Yeah. And I'm like, fine. Okay. Okay. It was a decent bit. Yeah, was a decent bit. like it's Like, it's funny. Like, we got some good, like you said, body horror. We got ah funny scene with Archer and James being and james being thrown around.
01:09:43
Speaker
I thought that was really funny. yeah And then the kids coming out from spell and chasing Gladys through the neighborhood. Also, Alex's mom?
01:09:55
Speaker
Freaky. Yeah. Freaky face that she can make. Freaky out face. Yeah. Yes. What was going to say? It felt like a It did... The ending with Gladys being chased to the neighborhood felt like an old YouTube skit.
01:10:11
Speaker
It did. It had all the bones of it. Mm-hmm. But yeah, had the... I guess it feels messy because... the tone was kind of all over the place between the, the fight with Archer and James feeling comical, the fight with, uh, Justine and Paul feeling like, you know, this emotional, really tragic thing.
01:10:36
Speaker
And then Alex with his parents kind of being along the same lines and then jumping right into the kids chasing after Gladys. And it's like, you know, filmed and kind of edited really comedically.
01:10:49
Speaker
So it was kind of hard to land on like how to feel yeah and how to process everything. That's yeah, that's, that's very well said. I think the, um, like it at that point i almost want, I almost want a side to be chosen because the thing with Alex that happens with him and his parents and Gladys is like, it's like, that's like heartbreaking.
01:11:13
Speaker
That's really sad, but it's really hard to care all that much when we're getting these quick sequences of all the fights that are happening in the house. It's just like, that's like,
01:11:25
Speaker
Tonal shifts, I think, are totally fine in movies. I'm all for it. But that was like tonal whiplash in the span of 10 minutes. Yeah. And then the movie ends.
01:11:36
Speaker
And so I think the lights came on. I was just like, what? Where am I? Where did we go? what the hell? Alex, how do you feel? I see you thinking.
01:11:49
Speaker
The tonal whiplash comment is super on point. Because I did not want that to happen. And I got thrown around that theater room. It's just getting tossed into walls and chairs and people's drinks and popcorn. And I'm still feeling the bruises.
01:12:08
Speaker
And yeah I like the end. i enjoyed it. But I didn't love it. and it's It's like Sinners. I feel left out because I liked it. I didn't love it.
01:12:21
Speaker
I'm also feeling left out. This is the story of 2025, I guess. I guess I'm just doomed to to be left out. Kind of like Alex being left out of getting abducted.
01:12:33
Speaker
I'm sure he would have preferred that than what he had to go through. Oh, yeah. Because at least he wouldn't remember. Yeah. Poor kid. I will say, and will say for all the poo pooing we've done, Gladys was top tier freaky.
01:12:49
Speaker
She was a freak. Yeah. Great performance. Yeah. Mm hmm. It's I keep having flashes in my mind of the pose that she had in the basement when went down there. Yeah.
01:13:06
Speaker
I saw TikTok today. was like, Lattice waiting for Archer. and She's just right there. And then she's like trying to like stretch. Just like waiting and then getting back into pose. I loved um the the one in James's chapter as well in the woods.
01:13:20
Speaker
Oh, yeah. That was really unsettling. Coming out from behind the tree. What's she doing? She's vibing. Can a can a witch just enjoy some nature?
01:13:32
Speaker
Literally. um She was so tight just every time when she first started coming on screen. I'm like, what is happening? Who is this lady? Yeah.
01:13:43
Speaker
She was like long legs kind of freaky. Yeah. Which leads me to my question. Who wins the freak off? I'm assembling a team.
01:13:54
Speaker
The freak off team. Yes. The freak ventures. Long legs are glad us. Who do we think is creepier? I'm say Gladys.
01:14:07
Speaker
I'm say Gladys because she can blend in. Long legs can't. Can Gladys blend in? I think so. Well, I don't know. They both stick out like a sore thumb.
01:14:18
Speaker
They do, but Longleg sticks out in a way more unsettling way. She sticks out in a freaky kooky aunt way.
Concerns and Mixed Feelings on Movie Structure
01:14:26
Speaker
Yeah. You know? like i more intentional i wouldn't I wouldn't look at her, like the scene where she's meeting with Marcus in the principal's office.
01:14:34
Speaker
I would look at her and it'd just be like wacky. But if I saw long legs in the office, I'd be like, what the hell is that? I'd be like, I need the police here now. Okay. Having, having been a substitute teacher and worked in a school, I can assure you that if I saw either of those people on school grounds, would, I'd be taking matters into my own hands.
01:14:57
Speaker
fair That is fair. I'm probably in the same boat. I liked it. Didn't love it. But it's it's it's just frustrating when movies are so close to just really so knocking it out of the park. It was so close. Yeah.
01:15:13
Speaker
It had everything it needed. ah It's good. it's good. You should like go watch it. Yeah, this is a very this is a very good movie. Yeah, we're being very nitpicky. I think we've given a good mix of like what we loved and what we didn't.
01:15:26
Speaker
I think, and then like ah following the movie, like I do want to rewatch this. I don't know if I can, because the first time watching this, going into it, not knowing the chapters that are happening by chapter four or five, already of just been like, okay, whatever. i don't know if I can go into this knowing that, that it's just going to be the up and down up and down.
01:15:49
Speaker
Like, I don't know if that's going to either add or take away from the experience. So I'll just have to keep, keep us posted on that one. But I'm curious to see like what a rewatch would feel like with this movie. I feel like since this movie didn't really have clues that built up to solving a mystery,
01:16:07
Speaker
There's not much that I could glean from a rewatch other than just rewatching it just
Reflecting on Horror Film Jump Scares
01:16:14
Speaker
for fun. But i don't believe I don't know if this is the sort of movie that I would rewatch for fun as opposed to like Spider-Man or, you know, whatever.
01:16:24
Speaker
um Like you'd want to rewatch it to like catch things that you missed. Yeah. any But like what is there to catch, you know? because she You may have missed the the giant gun in the sky.
01:16:35
Speaker
Oh, those gun. still
01:16:41
Speaker
Multiple. don't know if I love the dream sequence.
01:16:46
Speaker
How'd you guys feel about it? And, and there were a few kind of cheapy jump scares. i don't know how you guys feel about, felt about those. Yeah. Like I saw that they were coming. Um, whatever you gotta, you gotta do what you gotta do.
01:17:01
Speaker
Well, they don't have to be jump scares. It could just be like, like in Barbarian, um like the, the, the door at the end of the hallway would, you know, open or close or something.
01:17:12
Speaker
Yeah. But I don't know. Jump scares. that Like I couldn't tell you the last time girl was like, Oh, That was a good one because like it happens and I'm just like, all right, it was it was coming.
01:17:23
Speaker
Yeah, I am jumpy, though. Me too. Nothing will ever top for me the the insidious jump scare where the Darth Maul looking guy behind the crew. I will never forget it ever.
01:17:34
Speaker
That was that one that the jump scare. it It because it wasn't even a jump scare. It was just like he's just there. It was just a great scare. Yeah, it really. oh kind of like coworker horror movies peaked dude insidious was good when it came out i't serious because i don't know if it's because we were like 14 15 but
01:17:55
Speaker
but That music terrified me. I remember even like after The Conjuring, driving home, and I had just started driving. I had just started driving, and then after The Conjuring, know if you guys remember, but they have the scene, the game that they would play with the clapping. yeah I'm driving home, and the entire time, I kept looking in the rearview mirror, because I swear I was just going to see hands come up and just clap.
01:18:20
Speaker
Like I was headlights turned off. I was spooked. Insidious actually ruined like Tiny Tim for people. Yeah. I didn't know Tiny Tim before. He's hate him.
01:18:36
Speaker
Poor Tiny Tim. He had a really depressing death. Oh. If ah you guys really want to get sad, go go read that. It's um it's tough, but.
01:18:49
Speaker
yeah i can do a pretty good impression if if i work up to it we'll save it yeah um any final none of his death of him singing oh i got
01:19:06
Speaker
that clarification yeah that was understood yeah unspoken and understood um Any final thoughts on weapons?
Discussing Disturbing Scenes and Survivor Coping
01:19:15
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Anything that you guys didn't get to talk about or want to bring up?
01:19:18
Speaker
high Highs or lows? The scene, the opening sequence, what thought was incredible, and then the sequence during Alex's um alex's chapter when the kids were called, I thought was awesome as well.
01:19:35
Speaker
Yeah, that was disturbing. Yeah. Oh, my God. the One of my least favorite scenes. was when um he and Gladys were having that initial conversation the the morning, I guess the morning after she got there.
01:19:50
Speaker
And um his parents are sitting at the table and she shows him what she's capable of and scares him out of talking. forks in the face. Yeah, the forks. Oh, I hated that. I hated that so much.
01:20:01
Speaker
And like the thing that sucks is like, even though everything's resolved now, those parents are gonna, like they're mangled. They're holes all up in their faces. Didn't like that at all.
01:20:13
Speaker
i I hate. Well, there, I mean. i think it's the least of their worries. What'd you think of the potato peeler? Oh, that was gnarly.
01:20:25
Speaker
Oh, that was good. That was really good. Oh, yeah. What's the fallout of stories like this? Like what happens to the people that survive? Like one, do they explain things to the cops?
01:20:39
Speaker
Two, how do they resolve their trauma? If ever. Yeah, how did Miss Gandy and Archer, like, the cop show was like... yeah It was a witch.
01:20:52
Speaker
And, like, Gladys' body in the grass. like And the kids just but holding body parts. Like, how do you We have had a doozy of a day. um Apparently, there is going to be, like, a prequel with Gladys made.
Dislike for Unnecessary Prequels and Final Thoughts
01:21:11
Speaker
Which...
01:21:13
Speaker
I don't think I'm a fan of. I don't need everything explained. I don't need at all. That's the other thing I can't stand. i Stop explaining. I would like clarification on if Gladys was actually related to Alex's mom.
01:21:29
Speaker
That wasn't really clear to me. Or if Gladys just kind of like sent her some mail and made it up. Like, I don't know. I'm sure she's not. I mean, everything is hinting at... Yes, that she's a witch, but I think that she's maybe been around a lot longer. think that she's been on this earth for a very long time, so there wouldn't really be a way.
01:21:55
Speaker
I think she is like related because um it's said that Alex's mom had met her before. Hmm. Well, i don't know.
01:22:07
Speaker
She could be around... Like she could definitely have been like around in her life, but if she was just, just this active, which the entire time. Yeah.
01:22:17
Speaker
don't know. That's all right. Yeah. We don't need the prequel. Yeah. It's okay. I don't need a prequel, but I, I guess it just bothered me a tiny bit that that was left a little vague, but it's fine.
01:22:31
Speaker
It's not like it's going to make the movie worse. All in all, good movie. I had a fun time. Definitely go watch it. I'm stoked that everybody seems to be loving it.
01:22:43
Speaker
Happy for everyone that thinks it's a masterpiece.
01:22:49
Speaker
Technically, for I thought it was shot really well. I really liked, like, it was nice to look at. It was nice to look at. Yeah. Did you like the color grading, Malik? I did. Yes.
01:23:01
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Nice. Shut up.
01:23:05
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You guys ready for ratings? I'm ready to rate it, yeah. Alright, I'm giving this a
01:23:16
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seven out ten 7 out of 10. We do need to go back and and rate a Naked Gun. Oh, okay. Naked Gun. Okay, I'm ready. Go ahead.
01:23:29
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Oh, okay. yeah
01:23:37
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We had a seven out of 10 episode. 14 out of 20. But we hope you had 10 out of 10 time listening to it. Yep.
01:23:48
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Listener Engagement and Podcast Sign-Off
01:23:54
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01:24:01
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01:24:13
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01:24:41
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