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Demon Slayer Entertainment District Arc Overview
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one two three it's time for animation deliberation a conversation and a celebration of our favorite action animated series yeah yeah welcome back to another episode animation deliberation the podcast where we take action animation seriously but not too seriously i'm your host suhara lee and if you could not tell that was not our usual co-host jay scottie singing there was
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a demon sighting in the Northern California region in which Jay Scottie was called to. So we have our beautiful vocalist, our animation enthusiast, Mr. Andrew Rogers. Welcome back. Hello, hello, everyone. It's a fantastic time to be here. And you know, he let me sing. I guess I've been around long enough.
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Or I never remember the words, whichever one helps you sleep at night. It's fine. One of us skips a number. I can't figure out who it was, but I know you count to four. I count to three. I can't remember what Jay Scottie counts to. It's fine. It's fine.
Episodes 2-6 Discussion: Excitement and Intensity
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All right, so we're covering anime. We love talking about anime, and we love talking about how freaking amazing this one is, Demon Slayer. How many episodes are we covering today? We are covering five in total, and I think these are like five of the most excited episodes of anything that I've been, mostly the last one, but we are covering
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the Entertainment District arc of Demon Slayer, specifically episodes two through six, or if for some reason you're on a platform that counts all of the episodes, it's episode 35 through 39 in the totality of the show.
Viewing Platforms and Episode Numbering
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I've been watching it on Hulu and it really threw me off the first time that I tried looking it up, but they have like, each arc is their own show.
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Like the first part of it is Demon Slayer this and then there's a whole other show called Demon Slayer Mugen Train and then a whole other show called Demon Slayer Entertainment District. Interesting. Is that whole first season its own or did they actually split it up into the because technically on some of the websites they split up that first season into like four arcs, I guess.
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Yeah, so I mean, it's natural for anime to be like multiple arcs within a season, which is what they did for the first season, but then like Mugen Train was split and then Entertainment District was split. So I was confused because it was like, I know there's new episodes, but where is it? So I kind of like it because it has the numbers out straight. So we can just say two through six, but it's also just very weird on the first one. Like, wait, where did it go?
Infiltration and Storytelling in Episodes 2-6
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Yeah, that's fair. And Crunchyroll is what I'm using, and that's the exact same way. So I guess no one's getting all the episodes in order like that, so. Maybe it was just something that Demon Slayer itself decided to do. Yeah. But yeah, like we said, episodes two through six, starting with episode two, infiltrating the entertainment district.
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So just to give a little tease on the main thing that we want to talk about, there is a spectacular action sequence going on right now. And that is why we cannot wait to get back to weekly coverage because, like, I feel like this show is the reason I have hair loss. I'm literally just screaming and pulling the hair out of my head, freaking out at how just amazing the storytelling and the action and the grittiness and
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just everything, the emotion, all of it is just so spectacular. But there was a lot of stuff that got us to this
Character Dynamics and Mission Analysis
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point. So we're just going to give a quick run through of that just to kind of set up the story, set the establishment, do a little bit of a recap with everybody. And then we can just geek over how awesome this is. So you want to start us up on that recap? What's the mission? What are they doing? How did they get to where they are today?
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Yeah, so we had this first episode. We ended off with the tease that we were going to the entertainment district at the end of the last podcast that we recorded. And now here we are entering the entertainment district. They give us the background on who our Hashira, Mr. Tengen Uzui is, you know, kind of what he's about. He's a flashy guy. And a big part of his story is that he has three wives, making our boy Zenitsu very
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very jealous in a lot of regards but yeah he has these three wives that he sent to the entertainment district
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I don't know how much we want to sugarcoat what the entertainment district is about as we talk about this, but he sent them to be women of the night, so to speak, and work at these different houses. And they have stopped reporting back into him, making him think there is more demon activity than they first let on about. So now he's sending in Tanjiro Inosuke and Zenitsu disguised as these beautiful, beautiful girls.
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the picture of them the screenshot wherever it may be is the most beautiful thing um pun intended because they're not beautiful at all uh everything leading up to this point has just been straight comedy like we mentioned on the last episode about how you know just
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painful it was listening to all the stuff about Ren Goku and how what his father thinks of him and how everybody the trauma of like the events of the Mugen Train.
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and it was a good couple of episodes of just sheer humor like yes they're determined they're trying to be stronger they're trying to be better but the way that everything was set up was just spectacular um it's no secret that Inosuke is my favorite character and his relationship with Uzui is phenomenal because they're both like flashy I'm the best type of people so whenever Inosuke gets like his head too high
Hashira Tengen Uzui's Introduction and Mission
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you need to worship me it just gives him a reason to like the way that he runs like in those case so vocal about like who he actually looks up to and appreciates he would never admit it before but it is just like
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wow that guy's so cool the line that i have written down here that is at the start of this arc is when he's like i am or uh uzui i am a god what are you a god of i'm the god of festivals and the god of flashiness and inosuke nice to meet you i'm the king of the mountain like
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It's just so funny to have these characters that generally you don't get to see interact like this, just be off the wall hilarious, but also the fact that Inosuke is serious, that he's the king of the mountain. Yeah. It's just, it's interesting that our first exposure to a Hashira was the water Hashira. Oh, you are going to make me stretch for this one.
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Look at me. I have notes. I have a list. I have a list of every other it is. Tomioka. Tomioka. Yeah, so the first time that we meet Tomioka, he's stoic. He's a hero. He's like, you know that he's the badass. He's an upper guy. He's somebody that you don't mess with and can handle situations. So for him to essentially be our standard of what a Hashira is,
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And then I have our opening sequence of Ren Goku being him eating this food, yelling delicious after every bite. And then Uzui trying to kidnap women that aren't even demon slayers and just tossing them over a ledge like they mean nothing. I shouldn't be laughing at that, but like...
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If you're watching this show, you know why that's funny. Oh no, it is absolutely hilarious. And I just need to ask myself this question. What were those girls actually going to do in this situation? Like we're watching Tanjiro, you know, get into the weeds on this. What would those girls have done?
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yeah so it was played off for laughs but they they really did save them and i think it's that perfect balance of this show uh full disclosure i've been watching attack on titan to kind of catch up and i actually text zu hare after watching the first uh bit of the season being like this show is so
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dark and out there like it's a real testament to watch Demon Slayer the next day and be able to laugh and enjoy things in between like it has that perfect balance where you just don't feel so in the weeds and it's really really nice because of that and meanwhile i'm on the opposite train where i'm trying to catch up on Boruto and like there's a lot of filler stuff and a lot of goofy stuff and a lot of like how much are we going to take this seriously but now i'm finally like on the part where
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shit's getting real and, you know, a major character just died and I'm like, uh, uh, I wasn't ready for that. We're, we're, we're taking it seriously now. Like, okay. Yeah, you got to turn on the waterworks like that when it needs to, it becomes very, very much something easier to watch. You don't have to take a step back. And yeah, so once more hats off to demons layer for just being like such a perfect wall rounded show.
Hashira Training and Ranking System
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Yeah, and while we're on the topic of it, I did actually look up during this episode, or not this episode, one of the episodes, how you become a Hashira. Did you know how that process actually works?
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I can't even remember any of the rank names, so no, I did not look into how the Hashira process works. I also have those to talk about later when we talk about how they ranked up. So apparently, once you make it to the top rank of KinoA, and forgive me for any mispronunciations on all of these, I'll be doing my best, but because they're not actual words, it's a little harder to look up their pronunciations.
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So once you become that top rank, if you either kill a 12 Kizuki member at that rank, or you kill 50 demons, you become a Hashira.
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or there's the alternative path of being one of their proteges and after that Hashira passes, you're then able to move up the ranks. And I just found it interesting that there's not like a limit or there wasn't any listed limit to how many people can be Hashira. So it kind of explains why we have these different personalities. They don't all have to be super serious at the top. They just have to be talented. They didn't have to like, you know, earn the respect of someone and get promoted to that point. They just had to do the deeds
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that got them there, which shows more about their power and less about their personality. And that's why we've seen three or four very, very different-seeming Hashira in full force. That makes me wonder how high up Kyogiro was as a demon slayer and just like within his studies and everything, because they got attached a little bit on that again before his mother passed away and Shinjiro just kind of went dark.
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Because that was one that was ancestor related. So did he already have a high reputation and then just took the mantle when his dad stepped down? Or did he actually have those parameters and it was like, no, we just want you to be one because you're a badass.
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Like I said, according to the Wiki article that I read, it said that the proteges move up upon the passing or retirement of their respective Hashira. But I feel like it would be a problem if, let's say, Kyojiro's brother, I believe it was Senjiro, was still his protege and had to move up right now. He does not have those skills. So I have to imagine there is still some prerequisite to it.
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beyond you know that point they might still have to go through some degree of training to get there after the fact yeah because he's not knowledgeable to be a demon slayer so yeah exactly so and then uh koto toraki i guess he was tomiyaka's teacher at one point too so maybe he appointed him after he stepped down too
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Yeah, I have to imagine that was the case because they did have that relationship in that first season, um, going back and forth between the two of them. But yeah, I kind of wanted to look it up because I know Tanjiro mentioned, you know, I will be the next Flame Hashira after your brother, or I will become a Hashira like your brother when he was talking to Senjiro to kind of say, look, I'm going to do everything I can to make sure this doesn't happen again.
Demon Tactics and Daki's Schemes
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Yeah. So I just wanted to know what Tanjiro was going to have to go through and you know, what does that road actually look like?
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And how many seasons do we actually get? Yeah, that's true. There is that weird question. What if he were to kill a 12 kizuki and not be the top rank? Are they really going to say, no, we're not going to promote you now? I mean, they'd probably bump him up to a higher rank and then just keep giving him the training because he's beating the daylight side of himself. Oh, yeah. Perfectus form right now. So to get back on track, one of the things that I also wanted to point out is that
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They make it very clear that the three women that are Uzui's wives are all shinobi, so they're all ninjas and apparently he has a background of being a ninja too. As somebody who loves Naruto, that name popped up right away and I instantly just kind of had a standard of like what's expected of them, I suppose. So that's...
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why he has those relationships with them because he took like full responsibility for them too like he generally does care for them and you know cares for their well-being and doesn't want anything bad to happen to them it's not like he's just deploying shinobi and he even said it that
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in priority of who he's supposed to take care of people they need to take care of themselves first and then save others and then save him if need be like if the options were to present themselves like that's how much he cares about something like go against what you were trained to do care about yourselves because i care about the three of you uh and that's why despite how goofy it is like it does take that moment to address how seriously he takes this and how
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It is about finding the demon that's wreaking havoc in the entertainment district, but it most importantly is about making sure that he can find his three wives safely. Yeah. And honestly, that scene was so moving when he proved, when he was able to prove how much he really cared about them that, you know, it wasn't just say I took the three wives as is customary for the Shinobi. I think they mentioned in this kind of story that you would take the wives of your choosing.
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He was like, no, I'm actually going to care about you. I'm going to do this. And like you said, that's the whole purpose of their mission is to be here and do this. And then it kind of goes into as this arc goes on, they discover that many of the wives are either missing or no one's talking about them. And when they go to reconvene just after the moment in which Zenitsu gets kidnapped as well.
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And they meet on that rooftop, and Uzui goes to dismiss them and says, you know, I was blinded by my care for these women. I didn't think about you. I didn't think about what this was actually going to be like, I'm going to dismiss you. At that point, he was still even able to acknowledge not only how much they meant to him, but the fact that it was blinding his judgment that he was putting lesser
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uh demon slayers in harm's way and that's kind of why i asked that question what would he have felt had he put these other younger girls that were lower ranked demon slayers or not even part of the demon slayer core uh through this same thing and had them be kidnapped like he knew what he was doing and still decided to you know go through all this danger yeah i feel like the other Hasura would have definitely been on him for that just putting other people lives in danger for no reason
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Yeah, and it's it's such a weird thing because they have to be responsible, but they still also have to try and save people, fight off demons. So there's definitely this balance that you have to find at some point, you know, how powerful of demons are you going to start tracking down?
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All right, so just like how the show goes up and down with emotions, that's what we're doing with this recap as well. And might I say the way that they were dressed up and in those houses was just hilarious. Tanjiro looked terrifying. And the fact that the head of the house knew that it was a guy the whole time, it just makes it even funnier because just like a good worker might as well just keep him around.
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Inosuke we know is just beautiful under that boar's head as it is. So they were just like, like the other women were like generally uncomfortable by how amazing he looked. I have never been so jealous of an anime character, but yeah, right.
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And then Zendy's just playing his little sitar. He just starts jamming out and there's electricity flying everywhere.
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but then the line he's or she's doing this out of anger for the man who left her behind like he's so angry because he's got wives and he's like you go I get to be a handsome man we're gonna dress you up as a bunch of girls now like he was jealous of him at every turn it was wonderful
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But then again, things start to dwell into the serious part, and it's not Tanjiro who interacts with the demon the first time, he kind of gets like weird vibes, but it's actually Inosuke and Zenitsu simultaneously interacting with the demon.
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and we're still kind of like in the the mystery detective point of this but apparently our main demon Daki has these belts that can separate and she absorbs humans into it and then
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It's basically like, oh man, I had a great reference and I forgot what they were called. It's those commercials where you could like seal, like vacuum seal, like your meats and stuff to put in the fridge. Oh, of course you're gonna say it and I can't be- It's like a vacuum Ziploc. I can't remember exactly what they're called.
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But who even watches commercials anymore? People with Hulu and ads. So basically, she like she meal preps for humans that she gets wrong. That's exactly what it is. So because she can separate her belts, like there's this tunnel system throughout the entertainment district. Inosuke was sensing some of them and just
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destroying the house trying to find them which honestly was awesome because I just love him in action but it's Zenitsu who actually runs into Daki abusing one of her underlings and he tries to foolishly stop her and gets the daylights knocked out of him so we think like you know because now there's a lot of attention people are looking at her this and that because they obviously don't know she's a demon but they are terrified of her
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You know, they set everything up and it's like, all right, then he's safe, he's good to go. The girl said he was protecting her safe, yada, yada. And this was actually an end credit scene of all things where we think that he's safe and good to go. And then the belts just come out of nowhere. And as I'm at a time, the episode cuts and I was like rioting for a week. Like, how are you going to have an episode like that? What an end credit scene at that.
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I was like, yep, that's there's no way she is so powerful just from the little bits that we have seen. We know that she is just going to take him out because there is a somewhat important scene I'm going to backtrack to that was before that post credit scene that we got that flashback of Daki revealing herself to the
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uh maiden of the house and picking her up to drop her off the roof yeah and during that she even makes this point of saying you know i don't eat old people or ugly people yeah the fact that you were powerful enough as a demon to be picky about what you're going to eat like other demons they're just going to eat any people
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because they need that extra power because the more people you eat, the more powerful you get, the more high ranking you become. She is so high up that she just does not care and then is willing to just hide after yeeting someone off a roof and no one's going to notice. There's a weird theme of throwing people off roofs in the season. But then it leads to an even more telling part of that flashback wherein she's talking to Master Muzan
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the dialogue in that was very very telling of who she is as a demon yeah she's really conceited yes like she thinks she's the most beautiful thing in the world which
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At one point he can't blame her. But at the same time, Muzan feeds into that too. He was like, you're the only one that can handle this mission, you're the only one that I trust, and you're so beautiful, and this and that. He tells her everything that she wants to hear, just to stay as loyal as possible. Which is funny, because we just saw him beat the daylights out of Akaza just for her.
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boasting about his accomplishments. I was just about to say the same thing. Like, look at that way that he treated Akasa in that first episode. And now we're into this third episode, and he is just spoiling her like a rich canine Christmas, like give her whatever she wants, feed into her ego. And then the dialogue. Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, there's also a perfect comparison as we talk about Akaza that what did he say to him in that moment? It was, um, I don't care that you killed a Hashira. It's expected of you to do that. Yes. He specifically feeds into her ego and says, you're one of my best demons. You've killed seven Hashira before.
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That's an insane number, but also to still, again, be bragging about it while putting one of your other demons down is just such a dichotomy of things, but also she's so powerful.
Hashira Battle Dynamics and Tanjiro’s Abilities
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7 Hashira? I didn't even know there were that many that we didn't know about because they were dead. Like, that's insane. You'd think the Hashira would start working on a buddy system more now.
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It really kind of goes back to I think in season one they were just trying to show how thin the ranks of the demon core were.
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or you would probably have some buddy system, I guess. But yeah, there's also the other weird thing as you talk about the Hashira trying to hunt them down that brought up an interesting point. Muzan said something along the lines of no humans can tell us apart from other humans. They think we're normal. They don't think we're demons. The only ones that can really tell us apart are the strongest in the form of the Hashira.
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And the reason that I found that line really interesting is that Tanjiro was able to sniff out Muzan, I guess puns slightly intended there, in that first season when he was still barely a demon slayer. How is he on the level of Hashira already that he can identify something that obviously Zenitsu missed by a mile or he probably would have not touched Daki in any way when she was abusing those girls?
00:25:32
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Yeah, because Inosuke's senses are pretty high too, but I think that's one of the things that they emphasized quite a bit in the very first episode, was that he just has an uncharacteristically strong sense of smell, to the point where he smells intentions and stuff too. And I think Kototoraki actually trained that a little bit, in terms of recognition of
00:25:55
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understanding like the full extent of that maybe it is something else because there's a lot of secrets between us like about his father right now and maybe that could be a part of it maybe it is just a unique ability of his
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Uh, but yeah, this, this show definitely gives us a lot of lingering questions. Yeah. And I mean, the number one question in my eyes is always the power and not necessarily the power level, but like where it's coming from. As you have, you know, uh, Inosuke, he has this beast form whenever he shouts things that it seems like no one else has heard of or used, like all of the other members that we've seen either have a protege or a teacher.
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So it's like Zenitsu had the old Thunder Hashira, Tanjiro had the old Water Hashira, and so on. Where did this other form come from? How are they learning them? Can anyone just like come up with this stuff on the spot? And then on top of that, we're getting bits and pieces of, you know, the origins of this, but there's still so many unanswered questions about how it works.
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what it can do, what it can't do, where it's going. So it's amazing.
Humor and Character Interactions
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I love it. I love a show that makes you ask these questions, but also please give me answers because I love whodunits, but I like the end of the whodunit the best when I can prove that my thoughts were right. Yeah, right. Inosuke actually said that he didn't want to train under anybody and that he wanted to be strong on his own and actually train on the mountain by himself.
00:27:28
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right but and that still just kind of leans into does that mean anyone can come up with a form of breathing themselves seems like it that's seems like he learned from the beasts themselves oh my it's like avatar learning from the badger moles the dragons and the moon the lion turtles the lion turtles there you go yeah so maybe that is how he learned
00:27:56
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Maybe we'll get more flashbacks of him later. 100% down for that. Give me like a two episode Inosuke only flashback. A spin-off arc. I don't even need a whole arc, just a couple really good moments of what's going on. But yeah, I think that closes out. I want an arc.
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I don't want to waste an arc. There's so much going on in the show. I need as much as I can get in the like four arcs in the first season. Like you can spare an arc. I think it's just hard because we're only getting one arc the season. Fine.
00:28:38
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Anyways, that's the end of episode three's coverage because that's when Senitsu gets kidnapped. So then we go into episode four tonight was the name of that episode. And that was the one we kind of already touched on where they were talking, having that conversation at the beginning on the roof about, uh, what's going on? Where are the wives? Why isn't Senitsu showing up? And then Tengen, uh, Uzui trying to dismiss them.
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in a badass fashion of him just popping up. And of course, you know, Skate just starts fangirling all over again. I didn't even hear him. So cool. You know who I was thinking of in that moment to her? That would be you and me on the roof if Batman showed up. Just like oh my god, he's here.
00:29:19
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And then we would have our Commissioner Gordon moment of why does he do that? Yeah, but that was awesome and then it was interesting Tanjiro was very accepting of that like we said because he thought he was still at the bottom rank and Inosuke proved him wrong in the very interesting and cool fashion of pointing out that they have hidden tattoos and
00:29:44
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yeah i was actually wondering about that like did they not rank up after everything they went through so i'm
Character Rankings and Growth
00:29:51
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glad they addressed it was that a weird timing but yeah it was just this weird like oh we it felt almost like they forgot to bring up the tattoos from the manga or something like they were supposed to do that in the first season but they just didn't have time to show them getting them on the mountain so they're just like okay we'll throw it in here because i feel like if anything they deserved at least one rank for the mugen train alone
00:30:14
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Yeah, cuz technically that actually I forgot that was a member of the 12 kizuki. That was the only member of the lower six left. So that's a big deal. Yeah. So there you go. I guess that answers the question from earlier that if they kill a 12 kizuki and they're not the top rank, it doesn't matter. Yeah, it wasn't even like
00:30:35
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I don't think Kyodra ever saw Enmo. No. Because he was saving people on the train. That's definitely a weird question. But yeah, we found out that they ranked up from the bottom rank to the fourth rank is what they are now. And there are 10 in total. Let's see. It's quite the jump up. Yes, there's 10 total ranks. They ranked up three to go to the fourth rank. So they still have a ways to go until they get to that top before they even think about being any sort of Hashira though, which
00:31:04
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It's interesting to see how long that will take timeline-wise, because the show itself has had such a long timeline that isn't actually that long that you forget about where you had the growth of Tanjiro at the beginning, and then you had the Mugen train- or all of the arc after he became a Demon Slayer, and then time in the Mugen train- His initial training was what, like three years? Maybe? True minimum. Yeah, there's so many, like, I don't know how to answer these questions because
00:31:34
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they just kind of leave it vague. But I have to imagine it was too, because there was a couple mention of like six month periods in the middle there. So, so these, let's just say two seasons have happened over the span of at least three or four years. Yeah. And we feel very much like they are just, you know, still the same age, because of the weird compression of time that the show is done. But yeah, there's definitely been some time change in it. Like you said, it is nice to acknowledge that rank up.
00:32:04
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Yeah, I do have to point out that I was hyping myself up before recording my listening to the theme song and it actually has been playing in my head throughout this whole recording. Just Sorry, as your hair and I have done this multiple times through the past couple days when we have talked that theme song, I agree. It's so hard to rival what you had in that outro in season one. But
00:32:32
Speaker
I agree with everything we said last week that this brings that perfect like energy that the first season needed the somber notes this needs the high strung like that minute you flash to uzui in his big throne and the trumpets are blaring you're like this fits this definitely fits yeah the jazz vibe is just really cool but then like the outro music actually is like super dark and gritty because it always gives you a closer to where that's appropriate for that
00:33:00
Speaker
Yeah, I do feel like almost every episode this season has ended on a dark note in some way or another Yeah, that's just the nature of the show.
Preparation for the Big Fight
00:33:11
Speaker
Yeah. All right, just up to the action Well, I can't because we have to touch on the next best thing about this season and it is after they decide that they are still going to keep up with Tengen and those guys got to get his swords and his boar hat back and
00:33:31
Speaker
we get the introduction of possibly my favorite characters of all time they're apparently called the ninja they're the shino buff mice that have been trained to carry the swords and just run around in small spaces you can't see me bouncing because this is audio only but i'm bouncing as though i have a sword and
00:33:49
Speaker
I don't know about you. I died laughing that first time they popped up on the screen. I had to pause it because I couldn't read the audio of what was going on because I was laughing so hard. I was already laughing at the fact that when he was ready for action, he puts on his forehead and head first into the ceiling without his arms.
00:34:11
Speaker
He didn't like take his upper half or anything, he just toe-tapped him his way up into the ceiling, head only, turned and then called these mice, which at first I thought were his until I realized the headbands and then he was just like, they're so cool. I hope he learns that skill. Like if there's any one thing he takes away from studying under Uzui this whole time, let him learn how to control the animals because the comedy that will happen
00:34:42
Speaker
Those mice may end up being my phone wallpaper soon. Now the football season's over. That would definitely give me a good laugh just throughout the day. Just every time your phone rings with a text message, muscle, muscle, muscle. Uh, sorry. I guess it's pretty concerned at this point because Tanjiro hasn't met up with him. And of course he still hasn't gotten his name right yet.
00:35:06
Speaker
um but he ends up tracking the belts again through the tunnel system that we mentioned before and how does he track these small tunnels that only scars fit through he dislocates every bone in his body and earthworms through the tunnels just sniffing it out until he pops up and then just
00:35:30
Speaker
puts his body back in place that makes sense for anime standards that makes sense it was just one of those things that he said oh i could dislocate every bone in my body and i'm like that's kind of weird and he shows the dislocation of the shoulders i'm like that's really weird and it was the moment they showed him earthwarming through
00:35:51
Speaker
we've talked about how they change art styles they went to the flat 2d plain eyes just surfing through the ground like
00:36:02
Speaker
my new favorite sandworm oh my god it was just it was beautifully funny to see him do that and then appear and be like huh there's scarves in this room pop pop back my shoulders go like none of this appeared weird to him and it was just amazing and at the same time was right around when we were getting um
00:36:28
Speaker
Tengen also tracking the sounds through the earth, which was really cool.
00:36:34
Speaker
There was a lot of stuff, I don't think we can actually keep this episode, then this episode, then this episode from here, because so much stuff starts to happen in an overlapping format over the next like
Inosuke’s Battle and Uzui’s Entrance
00:36:45
Speaker
two or three episodes. Yeah, that's why I just wanted to cover the tunnel stuff first and then finish on the ahhh moment. Yeah, I'm like okay, so we could throw that out. So Inosuke gets to this tunnel as Tengen is following him, and
00:37:00
Speaker
It turns out that he is a little bit, I don't want to say more capable than I would have thought, but I did not expect the scarves to go down. Is it scarves, belts? I guess belts. They say belts. Belts is probably better because it is generally the, I don't know the name, forgive me. I know I knew it before in Japanese. It is the ceremonial belt that women wear in Japan. But anyhow, those belts, I did not expect them to go down as easily as they did.
00:37:27
Speaker
Because the fact that he could just slice through them and then the wives and Zenitsu just kind of drop out of it and it's like, okay, we're here now to fight. Like, I don't know. I guess it's because it was only a portion of the power was in that place that they could be taken down so easily, but I was still still surprised.
00:37:44
Speaker
Yeah, I love the dynamic between Makio and Suma. Just one being like super confident and the other just like so apologetic. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. She's like, I'm so useless. But she's like, she's kicking ass. Like she's doing just fine.
00:38:01
Speaker
It really is just so funny to see that. It's wonderful, but it's just a great dynamic between the two of them. But yeah, Inosuke's just gone through so much difficult stuff between the spider arc and then how Mugen Train ended up, that it was a nice scene that it's like, hey, reminder, he actually is a badass. He's very capable of taking care of himself, and he's a very skilled swordsman.
00:38:29
Speaker
unlike Zenitsu who has to be passed out just to use his thunder breathing. But that moment of the, I believe it was thunderclap and lightning flash that he did when we it because they didn't really reveal that he had fallen out of the belt when he did that slash it wasn't until he came in with that breathing form that was just
00:38:52
Speaker
badass. And then you got the great line of all of us talking through an osu!ke in one moment. Maybe you should stay asleep. Yeah. We've all been thinking it. Don't know why he doesn't sleep more. But he's got his makeup on and everything too. Like he's the only one that's still like in his girl outfit. He's still the girl. He's still very pretty blonde. You know, thunder user.
00:39:18
Speaker
And at this point, we finally get to see Uzui's swords because he comes in and kind of like finishes the job between the belts. That moment where he just pops him off his back and all of the rags fall was just that glory, like, oh, it's go time. I don't know what's happening, but I, I'm ready. Let's go. Yeah. I got, I got big Samahata vibes from Naruto. I know you don't get it, but I'm hoping that some of the listeners appreciate what I thought of that.
00:39:47
Speaker
Yeah, we're gonna keep talking about anime and trying to reference it in order to try and force me and all of our listeners to watch more anime. I mean, I'm sure there are some that are listening who just genuinely understand what I'm talking about.
00:40:00
Speaker
No I- Or you could just watch an archo, whichever comes first. Um, who's got the time for that? Such a long show, it's so good, it was so long. Uh, wow. Anyways. Uh, so yeah, I think that kinda wraps up everything that happened in the tunnel, because then the bells get called back.
00:40:20
Speaker
Boozbee like has this moment with the Y's making sure that they're okay, but they're set on just helping Tanjiro now, so. I will say. And Zenitsu are on their way. The fact that Inosuke is still like opening up Zenitsu, can you see okay? This is the only time he's impressed with Zenitsu that I can ever recall. Well he has an aggression like how are you running?
00:40:43
Speaker
how are you running how can you see i don't know i guess that was a fun after credits because that happened and then he was like hey we get no fun tips today we got a mission to go to and they just run off i was like yes i love that they're very tongue in cheek about it um but i was gonna say i loved how
00:41:00
Speaker
Uzui was at first very like, we can't go anywhere. I have to keep track of the wives. And then the minute I think it was Machio comes up behind him like, Hey, no, you have to go save Tanjiro. We'll be fine down here. Don't worry about us. He grabs them both in his arms has a big smile on his face. And I feel like this was the perfect moment of the title of the episode was
00:41:22
Speaker
things are going to get real flashy. He just jumped through that hole like, here we go. Just had this big smile on his face and took off running in the direction of Tanjiro in the fight. It was just the perfect like, yes, yes, yes, I get to do what I want. And also right before that when, you know, scale is giving him shit for being late.
00:41:41
Speaker
And he was like, I just rescued you, bow to me! And again, the flat comedy, it's so good. It is so good. They have strategically used the budget this season. I can tell that they're like, we're going to use the 3D in the really intense spot. We're going to use the regular animation in the very audible emotional spots. And then we are going to just hammer home the comedy with terrible animation to make it funnier. That's some Mugen train money.
00:42:09
Speaker
If this is the Mugen Train money, make another movie so I can watch it like four times. Let's go. All right, so big
Tanjiro vs. Daki: Skills and Strategy
00:42:18
Speaker
fight time. Tanjiro versus Daki. Daki. I'm surprised that Tanjiro's back didn't like his spine didn't physically snap when he first got flicked through the building because he had Nezuko's case on.
00:42:36
Speaker
Like, that looked painful. That was a throw and a half, and I don't think that was the worst injury he has sustained in this fight. No, but that initial blow was just kind of like, you're gonna die, buddy. I honestly was like, uh-oh, okay, things like, you know, Uzui's gonna have to show up. There's no way Tanjiro's about to hold his own. And he gets up, and then it gave us the weirdest crutch it felt like of this fight, that, oh no, the strap is broken on the box. I'm gonna have to put this down now.
00:43:07
Speaker
It felt a little bit weird to have him fight without Nezuko on his back. I don't know why that struck this weird chord with me, but it did lead to the interesting line of, stay here, the box is broken, don't come out unless your life is in danger. He didn't care about himself. He specifically said, if you are in danger, come out of this box. But spoiler alert, Nezuko doesn't like to listen. You know how, um,
00:43:37
Speaker
how when Thanos and Dr. Strange were fighting it's like you fully didn't even use like your greatest weapon like the time still was just in the case the whole time like that's how Nezuko's being used right now it's like i know like it's nighttime it's a fight things are out of hand
00:43:54
Speaker
How about we work as a team? And I was really hoping we were going to get more of that this season after they had that amazing scene in the first episode when he ran up the pillar and she just dropped out of the box onto that demon. Like, okay, they figured out how to work together. This is an awesome dynamic all of a sudden. Yeah, I mean, I do question like how long her recovery takes.
00:44:16
Speaker
because she has to get it from sleep. So maybe it's like they they're very picky about when they use her. But I mean, they gave the little snippet of her being awake. So I don't know. But it was very interesting points that like obviously he still knew he can't fight an upper level demon at this point. But they go into a lot of emphasis about how like he doesn't feel strong using the water breathing.
00:44:44
Speaker
Yes. And that makes a lot more sense when you start to look back at season one. Like it kind of puts some things into perspective how he was almost forcing the water breathing to work when he had to cut that boulder in half as his first test. It didn't seem like it was something coming natural to him in any way. He had to focus so hard to learn these things. We just kind of assumed that's what it takes to learn this. It seems almost more like he was right and
00:45:13
Speaker
Maybe this wasn't necessarily right for him. And there's also a lot of emphasis upon him having a black sword and how people with that are like indecisive on what element they want to work on. So I thought that the show was heading into a direction where he was just going to be a badass. I could use like multiple and that he was going to learn multiple throughout. So I wasn't expecting it to be like, oh, I'm not comfortable with the water anymore. It's like, but it's the only one you've ever like really practice and the sun breathing like just about kills you.
00:45:42
Speaker
But it was amazing seeing him use sun breathing as he did, because in that moment he was taking a chance of like, is this going to work? I'm not even entirely sure. But this is a great time to figure it out. And it started off as like, he's using it, but then he's feeling the ramifications. We do the little flashback to his recovery about how he had a fever, but that was the only time that he felt good with it. But after he starts sustaining some damage,
00:46:12
Speaker
whoa did it get cool oh yeah like we didn't realize the extent of his sun breathing training yeah and it was really interesting last week i had more questions that actually did get answered um in this week's episode which was kind of cool i was under the impression at first that tanjiro just figured out
00:46:34
Speaker
the sun breathing, which was really a cool thought to be like, he just kind of did it and was figuring out what happens. I have a little bit of a suspicion now after we got that revelation of amazing. It's hard to say redemption for a character so pitiful, but redemption for Kyodra's father. Yeah. In that
00:46:56
Speaker
letter that he wrote to Tanjiro to say, you know, I'm sorry for how I treated you. My son deserved better of me. You know, I was scared of the sun breathing. I think you're a natural user. I have some suspicion that that means either he is helping Tanjiro decipher what was used to be in that book, or that he let Sanjiro send the letters in that four month period and he's been studying those.
00:47:21
Speaker
But it was also interesting that Tanjiro doesn't think he's a natural sun user. I love finally getting some answers about the scar, but it was... Yeah, I didn't know how to feel about them kind of using it as a red herring to say, no, this isn't actually why he has a scar. It might be a little bit of both. It might be like from an accident, but because of the fact it's a sun breather, like the scar scar different.
00:47:47
Speaker
yeah it could also be some commentary on fate in a sense that you know he was meant to have this mark of power so the world gave it to him i i do feel like we're going to see him interact with shinjiro in the future maybe shinjiro actually becomes his mentor at some point and helps him understand yeah um i could see him partnering with shinjiro and inosuke working with
00:48:18
Speaker
Yeah, I do think that does open an interesting door that you were talking earlier about, you know, he couldn't decide, or rather the sword color meant that he couldn't decide what element he would be following in his studies.
00:48:35
Speaker
perhaps his natural abilities with sun breathing kind of does actually go into what you were talking about that he will be using them all because he has the basis like most people can't use them all because they don't have the base form because he has that base form he's going to be using them all and perhaps Shinjiro like you said will be his mentor in fire and then either that does or doesn't work and hey we're also gonna learn sound we're also gonna learn
00:49:00
Speaker
I don't want to say insects because I'm doubting that's actually a form, but learn from the butterfly insect, Hashira, and then go to the serpent one and figure out what the reptilian form is and those different things like that to see if he can pick up more of them to be able to do more things over the seasons. I think that could be an interesting door to open.
00:49:20
Speaker
This is also a thing similar to Naruto is Kyoduro goes over about how there is five elements and everything else is derived off of those. So I feel like he's just going to get those five and then maybe have an essence of each and that, but I feel like the five would be like the main thing for him to explore.
00:49:39
Speaker
But coming back to the fight scene, like him using the fire breathing or the sun breathing was just really cool.
Daki’s Ruthlessness and Tanjiro’s Defiance
00:49:46
Speaker
He was holding his own. Apparently there's a very distinct sound when he breathes that actually made Daki very uncomfortable. But dude, when she starts killing all the people in the city,
00:50:00
Speaker
oh my god first off i wasn't ready for how graphic that was like i know the show does that and shows us that but i wasn't expecting them to show us as much as they did dude's missing a hand there's people being gutted like there's bodies hanging off the edge of broken down buildings and i was like whoa i was not ready for that i got freaking invincible vibes yeah his arm is just practically severed at this point
00:50:26
Speaker
And he just gets up and like, he's just so mad that like the blood vessels in his eyes are popping. And that was a wild look for him. And just the way that that fight went and the detail that was in the flames. Oh my God. Was it beautiful? Like my heart rate was up. I was at the edge of my seat. Like that really was Jojo versus Akazah vibes for me, which is how intense and how fast it was.
00:50:54
Speaker
And she had to, this is after she recalled her belt too, so she was a lot more powerful at this point. But man, was that action sequence wild. Oh yeah, you talk about the speed, you talk about the way everything looked, the like choreography of him losing every bit of what he had left insanity because she hurt this many people was
00:51:18
Speaker
like I was terrified for her, not in a sense of I don't want to see something bad happen to her. But what is Tundra about to do? Like it was just very autonomous at that point. Well, he did. Because he stopped breathing. Like I, I went back through because I was like, Okay, at what point does he stop
00:51:41
Speaker
doing any sort of noticeable breathing. When his blood vessels first pop in his eyes is the last like audible hissing breathing that you can hear from him. And then he jumps up on the roof, cuts her leg off, has his monologue where I'm going to guess he's breathing while talking. And then the minute he stops talking, you get, I would say, probably close to two or three minutes of straight action there.
00:52:06
Speaker
wherein you do not see his mouth open, hear any words out of him, or hear audible breaths again. So I'm just assuming that was the point that he went crazy. And that was the point that the fight just turned on its head, him deflecting the belts and slicing through them in moments that she thought were not feasible.
00:52:26
Speaker
only to then be deflecting them all in the same direction so he can pin them down with his sword. And then her say, oh, I'll do this in a blink of an eye and recall them back. You'll never do anything. And he leaps through the air. And I say it every time when they do those just pans from 2D to 3D, it's beautiful. And they put it at the perfect point to just watch him circle
00:52:53
Speaker
around every single one of those belts, cut it in an instant. I almost want to slow that down and look and see is that the dance that his father was doing because it felt so almost graceful as he was jumping and slicing in every direction and almost makes contact with her neck. But
00:53:08
Speaker
Up until that point, I don't have enough words besides stunning and beautiful and everything else that I have said in the last like five minutes. It's just like, holy crap, holy crap, holy crap. How is he doing this? And then we kind of get that explanation of, oh, he's not breathing. That's how he's doing this. But like,
00:53:28
Speaker
I, I did not know that was in him. Sorry to rant like that. I know. I just, I mean, you just took everything out of my brain. I don't have to say it anymore. I mean, all I'll say is that like, he typically does say he's doing the, you know, kami kagara when he does, but at this point, like there's names to his moves and he actually said a specific, well thought a specific one as he did that. So I think he actually has like an array of, uh, motions outside of his father's dance. Like I think he's starting to like implement it into his own thing as well.
00:53:58
Speaker
I can't remember and I didn't take note of this. Was he still thinking them in that fight when he was allegedly not breathing? Yes. Okay. Cause I know he didn't open his mouth. I couldn't remember if he actually said the names of the moves or not, but they were all, I mean the usual beauty. This is when I will bring my only negative into the show and it's something that all anime do. And it's where you have to stop to explain what's happening.
00:54:29
Speaker
And I feel like you're not giving the audience enough trust at that point. So it's like even with Kyojo's fight with Akaze like it got to the point where it's like saying the moves like you could tell it was in his head. It's not like in the middle of the fight. He's actually streaming that stuff out. But it's tied it to a way that it didn't.
00:54:49
Speaker
break up the action sequence. And this action is doing that a little bit where it's broken up on crucial parts. And at some point, like I do want to see someone on YouTube make a cut of just all of it going one flowy sequence. If you don't mind my asking, do you have more of an issue with him explaining it? Or when Daki was explaining like, Oh, I have the eight sashes going across all of it.
00:55:13
Speaker
It's just, it's an anime thing. It's not even specifically a demon star thing, but with how heavily they just pulled it in, it's like, dude, just trust the audience and go with the flow of things because we're engaged. There's no doubt about that.
00:55:27
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, sure, the quick explanations of like, oh, this is what he's doing. But the amount that they slow it down, like we get that she's arrogant, we get that she's cocky and powerful and this and that. But it's like, you don't need to spill a whole personality into that you can have those thoughts. You know, like, more like Dragon Ball Z scenes where like things just happen real quick, and then they just like flutter over. You can have
00:55:54
Speaker
a version of that where it's explaining and not stop everything you know and it's it's one of those things it's like i know there's workarounds and sometimes i'm just like shut the f**k up and fight and that that's that's literally my only negative about the show and it's not even just a demon slayer thing it's just things that anime do in general and it's so frustrating like trust the audience a little more because that the sequence of that was just amazing it was
Nezuko’s Intervention and Power
00:56:21
Speaker
Like it was generally nice knowing like what he was doing and how it progressed because that motion of him just flying through and cutting up all the belts on the way there and then just being gassed and I've had I've had a few spars that you did so that it felt that way where it's like you're going against somebody else that's scrappy and it's just go go go go go go and then like you have one little slip up whether it be like
00:56:47
Speaker
Garment catcher or something or tripping over or what happened that you realize you're not breathing and somebody just gets right on you. You're just like, Oh, dude, the pain is real in that like your whole body just seizes. Oh, yeah, it's him obviously, you know, putting out flames and being at over 100 degrees.
00:57:08
Speaker
Which they didn't even specify. It was like 100 degrees Celsius when she was checking that. I mean, I imagine that the nurse would have been a lot more shocked if it was 100 Celsius. I'm assuming when it was 100.4, it was Fahrenheit because that's a fever in Fahrenheit. It was 100 Celsius, we guess, problems. Yeah, I think she definitely would have reported that and I've been like, wait a couple of days.
00:57:32
Speaker
That whole sequence was so good and I thought this was when Uzi was going to step in, but the fact that it was Nezuko that came in and just broke her face from forehead to lips just knocked it clean off. I was like, whoa! I was clapping and cheering and hooting and hollering.
00:57:54
Speaker
ecstatic at that point. That was my pull my hair out scene. It was just something comes from above. You get the one hit the camera turns it they replay it again the camera turns they replay it again and you just see Nezuko drop. It was amazing. I want my editing skills to get better because I need the good old WWE. Watch out. Watch out. Watch out. Boom just hit her out of nowhere with
00:58:22
Speaker
the force of 1000 suns in that one kick. It was just her veins bulging and just anger and I love that we had that note of Hey, let's go don't come out of the box if you're in danger. Tundra was in danger. Oh, no, this means she broke rules. And she went like on her own. You're about to get up. Yeah.
00:58:48
Speaker
sorry jay scotty put them all in there to bleep that out couldn't help it it's just uh zu hair and i love this episode so much it is just the energy that came out of her in that moment and then panning over to daki being like you shouldn't have done that while her face is broken half like what this sucker punched me
00:59:13
Speaker
And then she goes back to talkin' smack! Like she cuts off Nezuko's leg and the damn year cuts her in half. And she's like, hi, you weak little immature demon, blah blah blah. And then she pops out like her body together and then like... Do you only know how to kick? Like you're trying to just call her out for not having enough moves? Well, something broke, but... Game back!
00:59:38
Speaker
yeah yeah that chicken like came back quick and i'm god the demons finally the demon slayers finally have somebody on their side that they can do that can they can do that seriously um but yeah like her shape starts to come in she bites through her her muzzle and it's like oh you pissed her off
01:00:02
Speaker
that was the moment i knew this upcoming episode is going to be intense like her biting through the bamboo everything we've seen of nezuko she's you know she's angry but the bamboo stays because she's not going to harm a human whatever it is the minute she bit through it wasn't the muscles it wasn't the regeneration it wasn't her tripling in size it was her biting through the bamboo that i was like oh no it's about to go down
01:00:32
Speaker
yeah so tell us i'm honestly about to just go watch it again as soon as we're done and i might do the same thing i watched it just before but like and i might have to do it again just after it was
01:00:47
Speaker
Yeah, Sarah Day, who I covered the Moogan train movie with. She so episode came out Sunday. She watched it that night. I watched it on Monday. So I knew that she had seen it at that point. So this like the second that came on screen, I blew up her phone and then was just like a locked in.
01:01:06
Speaker
And I was like, oh my god, I stole more. This episode's not over yet. It's not even the next episode. The next two or three are probably going to be just this battle continuing on, because this is going to show up at some point, I'm guessing. I don't want to speculate too much, because I have thoughts of how this is probably going to slightly go from some of the context that we've got. I just want to enjoy this fight. At least this one episode, I feel like it's going to be mostly Nezuko versus Daki, and that I'm interested in.
01:01:34
Speaker
That's just going to be crazy, because that moment at the end, that again, she goes to kick her, she cuts off both of her arms and her leg. Nezuko comes in and kicks her with the one leg left, while already having regenerated both of the arms and the other leg back. Like, she has some serious power we did not know about. Yeah, she's even smack talking like, oh, you're so weak, how did you get away from Luzon and blah, blah, blah. You're gonna eat those words.
01:02:04
Speaker
Yeah, I feel like my voice has got very intense. I'm sorry everyone if it just like I got very excited there. Yeah, I think you and I just were feeding off the energy there. Um,
01:02:15
Speaker
I mean, that being said, if you guys want to share your energy, Animation Deliberation Podcast at gm1.com, we love those voice recordings.
Listener Feedback Invitation
01:02:23
Speaker
If you want to keep it under a minute and just send us just your genuine raw excitement about how amazing the show is, we would love to hear it right in. Hit us up on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, whatever. We just want to hear from you. We just want to talk with you. We want to share this excitement. Yeah, I'm lucky I get to share it with Zuhair on the air. But before that, I
01:02:45
Speaker
I would want to do it anyway. So please, if you have thoughts, we'd love to hear it. So hair on the air. I like that. We might have a new tag in there somewhere. Well, before we I know we've kind of gotten to the end, but there is something I want to circle back on. There was the moment before the Tanjiro fight or not before in the middle of the Tanjiro fight that Daki was having these visions. Ah, yes. That's yeah.
01:03:14
Speaker
Um, it seemed to me, and I'm, I can't remember if she said it directly or not, that it looks like Tundra's father, um, in these visions, and she was saying that it has to be something that Master Muzan was remembering. I'm guessing this has to do with him transferring his blood, um, to all of the upper six when he took out the lower six. Um.
01:03:38
Speaker
There has to be something there that she's getting his memories in some way, either that or he has some weird telepathy, which is very much a possibility. But what does this mean? Because did we ever have any confirmation? I mean, we obviously expected it with the dance, that his father was either a Hashira or a Demon Slayer before, but did we know for certain that that was a thing? No, we just knew that he was a coal miner.
01:04:06
Speaker
and that the Hirokami Kagura was just a dance from a culture that just went down from the family. Okay, interesting. So I mean, this definitely gives us some more light to that, but also- It could have been a Demon Slayer that retired to have a family. Yeah, but the fact that this Demon Slayer allegedly fought Master Muzan and lived? And made Master Muzan piss himself?
01:04:36
Speaker
Yeah, that's a big deal. This definitely gives us a lot more pointing to how powerful the Kabi Kagura is. Yeah. I didn't expect that in all of this fighting that was going on. And it also makes me wonder
01:04:57
Speaker
Okay, there's definitely something to do with the lineage that Tanjiro is... I can't remember his father's name, unfortunately, but the son of this powerful possible demon slayer, Hashiro, whatever you want to call him, we think that's part of where Nezuka's power is coming from, that she also has this, you know, old energy in her from this unbreathing that she's bringing forward to fight a demon with now. Yeah, I didn't really think about that, but...
01:05:29
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I mean, we know there's something special about her. There's those flower marks, too, that were interesting. Okay, so we're keeping with the theme of... And yeah, you know, keeping with that theme of similar father-son names.
01:05:49
Speaker
I do believe that actually is a thing in some cultures in order to, like, I wanna say keep lineages alive, but in the same way that we may think in the modern day, like Andrew and Andrew Jr., they would do something along those lines where they would name similar. If I'm not mistaken, I have heard of that in some cultures. I'm not sure necessarily if Japanese is one of those, but it may be. Oh, that's another recurring thing in Naruto is you can actually, there's some storylines that have like their lineage from like four
01:06:19
Speaker
like members and all of them have like a very similar part of their names. I do know that from the or I recall that from a little bit of Naruto that I've seen. Yeah. But I mean, you know, our favorite characters Zatana and Zatara here. Yeah. Although that's not real because his first name is not actually Zatara but. Right.
01:06:43
Speaker
His last name is Zatanna, so that means Zatara's... or... yeah. Zatanna Zatara? Zatara Zatan- I don't know. It gets confusing. On that note, that's Young Justice. Check out our old episodes on this feed, Young Justice Season 4 Phantoms. You'll hear my lovely voice in a bunch of those episodes as well. Anything else you want to plug, aside from that?
01:07:09
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Animation deliberation on Instagram, that's one of the best ways if you wanted to communicate with me specifically. I'm running that for these guys helping do some great things. If you're watching this on the day of, we have a picture of the muscle mice up there to represent Zuhair and I on our story getting ready to record all of this lovely, lovely coverage. But muscle, muscle, muscle.
01:07:32
Speaker
I think, uh, I do think that's it for all of the stuff, A, that I would want to plug, and B, this arc. I'm really excited to get back to weekly coverage. Yeah. Um, aside from that staying on the anime realms of things, uh, part two of Attack on Titan has officially begun and it's like the last season ever.
01:07:58
Speaker
We are behind. I've only seen the first two seasons because that was just one of those things that did not come out in a timely fashion. So the plan for that because we're hooked on Demon Slayer right now was the weekly coverage is going to be a Demon Slayer when they get these episodes to you every week. And for Attack on Titan, we're going to do what we did with Young Justice where we hit them by arc. And I think by the time we catch up to the current season, it'll be over so we can just give like a quick feedback of everything.
01:08:29
Speaker
But that is a really good show. I think it deserves to be broken down by Arc, just like how Young Justice did. It's a heavy show too. So there is a lot to talk about and we do wanna give it justice. So we don't wanna wear ourselves thins to not be able to give you like quality for all of it. So we're gonna keep this on the weekly. We're gonna go back to the Arc system for that. And as more things come up, we will let you know.
01:08:55
Speaker
Yes, and that does remind me as well. We're waiting for Jay Scottie to come back with Zuhair to talk about our 2021-2022. So you still have plenty of time to submit any feedback that you want, whether it's you're excited about stuff, whether you want to talk about old stuff, or just kind of ask us questions. If you really wanted to do like a mailbag Q&A kind of thing, if we had enough, we would answer, I suppose. But yeah, any other feedback on Instagram or animationdeliberation at gmail.com?
01:09:25
Speaker
or animation deliberation podcast at gmail.com. I forgot about the last part. If you have any ideas for an outro for me we're still trying to figure that out. All right folks tune in next time and as always stay well. Bye everybody.
01:09:47
Speaker
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