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What Tests Will I Have? Unexpected S7E2
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Welcome to The Unexpected Hour — the podcast where two unapologetically opinionated women break down every moment from Unexpected. Each week, we dive into the drama, relationships, parenting chaos, and family feuds from TLC’s hit reality series, sharing our hot takes, heartfelt reactions, and plenty of laughs along the way. Whether it’s questionable decisions, cringey conversations, or surprisingly sweet moments, nothing is off-limits. But we don’t stop there! In our fan-favorite segment, “Unexpected Assholes,” we read and react to wild posts from the internet’s favorite moral battleground, Reddit — specifically the legendary “Am I the Asshole?” stories. We judge. We debate. We absolutely overshare. And sometimes… we disagree! If you love reality TV recaps with humor, honesty, and just a little bit of chaos, pull up a chair. The drama is real, the opinions are strong, and the hour? Totally Unexpected.
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Introduction to 'Unexpected' Season Seven
00:00:07
Speaker
Welcome back to the Unexpected Hour. We're going to be recapping season seven, episode two of our favorite show, Unexpected. I think before we go, I just want kind of comment on the fact of like how the show is kind of being presented from a couple standpoint that I find a little frustrating because other shows, when you have like these reality shows and they're couples, everything from like Teen Mom or Night to the Fiance or like you have these multiple storylines you're following through the season.
Selective Focus on Couples: Strategy or Flaw?
00:00:37
Speaker
You normally meet them all up front or you get like a touch of each of them each episode. Not normally do you just not see a couple at all for an episode.
00:00:50
Speaker
And again, this one we only had three couples. There was one that they didn't talk about at all. One they barely talked about. The first episode we didn't even meet one of the three.
00:01:02
Speaker
and I don't know. I think it makes it hard. i like how much detail they give to certain ones because they show less of the other couples each episode. But I want, i don't know, I want a little tidbit for each of them each time, personally.
00:01:17
Speaker
i think I would also prefer that just to have, like, meet all the characters and then we can kind of develop their arcs as we go along. I wonder if there's a reason other than maybe it's easier story-wise to have three couples to focus on per episode, and if that's going to be the continuing theme, because that's what it was last episode, was three couples. And then this time they also showed us three couples, but they left someone out and added someone new.
00:01:48
Speaker
Yeah, I think, I mean, I'm going to keep an eye on it because I don't know why I'm fixated on this, but...
The Chaotic Lives of Young Couples
00:01:55
Speaker
I do just think it's interesting, particularly when you have these younger couples and they are so all over the place. ah There's always going to be something.
00:02:04
Speaker
And is it their relationship? Is it their social life? Is it their family dynamics? Is it just them? Like there's always something to talk about. And it would be interesting to see what they didn't put out.
00:02:19
Speaker
Not that we'll have to know, but. Yeah, I would agree. I wonder if they're just like cutting it up differently or maybe it's based on when they started filming. Although that doesn't really make sense either.
Comparing Reality TV: 'Unexpected' vs. Others
00:02:30
Speaker
i do think they do this sometimes with 90 Day Fiance, although that's honestly a little bit of an overwhelming show to watch. Just too many versions of it. But sometimes they would leave people out and you know switch people out. But I do remember with Teen Mom, they would show everybody. And I did like that better.
Jose and Amaya: A Stressful Journey to Parenthood
00:02:49
Speaker
Well, maybe one episode we'll get all four, but for this one at least, we had two of our returning couples and we got to meet someone new, which was awesome. um I think going to start off with jose and Amaya, if that works, because they kind of, I think, had the least amount of time, but also one of the heights of the episode where they got to meet their babies.
00:03:14
Speaker
Yeah, and it it was a little bit of a scary journey to get there. um Labor is a terrifying event to go through, and especially to be so young.
00:03:25
Speaker
But I think even for adults, it's very, very scary. And her mother was certainly extremely worried for her daughter and her grandson and just medically and...
00:03:37
Speaker
you know, are we going to all be okay after this physically, emotionally, mentally, all of the things. And for me, it was a little extra scary because of the modified voices of the doctors and the nurses, which sounded like a nightmare. um But I understand why they do that for their privacy. I'm kind of surprised they let anyone film deliveries like that.
Teen Pregnancy: Education Through Reality TV
00:04:03
Speaker
I'm sure there's a ton of forms that they're signing, but I do think even grown women who are planning to give birth, they are hoping and their're that's their intention is to get pregnant and birth.
00:04:20
Speaker
It's a terrifying experience and it puts your body through so much. And that's with someone who they fully develop frontal lobe. And I think when you're a teenager, if we can try to reflect back on what it was like you when you were a teenager, you can tell someone, hey, this is going to hurt.
00:04:38
Speaker
But until you actually are experiencing it, and yet you have no idea what that actually means. And even though a female's body is quote designed to make babies, it doesn't make it any easier. It doesn't mean that it's like a smooth, fun process. And I think part of why they did show a delivery. And I think it's kind of important is kids watch TV and they might not get that education, but that watching that would deter someone to be like, I don't want to do that.
00:05:09
Speaker
So And you kind of heard of Maya a lot being like, this hurts. I don't want to do it. I don't know what to do. Like, and it's scary, but I do want to give props to Jose because that kid did his
Jose's Role During Childbirth: A Heroic Tale?
00:05:25
Speaker
best. Like he was supportive. He was positive. He was there the whole time.
00:05:31
Speaker
got to give it to him. I think he did. i think he did really good. I also thought that. I thought that he was very supportive, he was hands-on, he wasn't running off, he wasn't, at least nothing that they showed was him, you know, napping or playing video games or anything like that. He seemed like he was very involved and i think he was just...
00:05:53
Speaker
very scared of what was all going on at certain points. I mean, it there was a terrifying moment when the heart rate dropped down to 83 beats a minute. That's very low. That's a deceleration of the heart. And that's a that's a panic point for anybody that is in labor if they know that that's not good. And I think that her mother was very aware that that wasn't good. And the doctors and nurses, of course, were reacting like this you know, if this continues to happen, you're going to need an emergency C-section, which is another scary thing to contemplate because that means surgery. It means recovery from the surgery. And it also means that baby's in enough distress that that's something that's necessary.
00:06:40
Speaker
so I think for two kids having their first child, that is a terrifying thing. And I think for her mother, probably even more so. Just because she's had children, she probably understands on a bigger level of, oh no, this is not a good thing to be seeing. And it's something that happens. And it's not, obviously it's not always catastrophic and people can still have a vaginal birth after the heart rate dips like that. But just to even have Something not going that well for a moment is very scary in a situation like this, which is truly life and death.
00:07:17
Speaker
And I would assume like it's a harder recovery because if you got in, like you start with natural labor and then you end up in a C-section, it'd be a harder recovery if you just started off with the C-section because your body's already doing, trying to do the first thing and then you just can't. Like I can't imagine having to recover from both.
00:07:41
Speaker
Yeah, unfortunately that happens a lot because it you know, there's all kinds of reasons, but sometimes babies can't tolerate the stress of labor. And even more so if Pitocin is introduced, there's all kinds of variables, but labor is a very stressful process on not just the mother, but also the fetus. And there's a range of reactions that a fetus may have based on that. And so it is, it's, it's something that happens that people are in labor actively pushing and, oop we have to stop. And now we need an emergency C-section or, or maybe not all making out of this alive.
00:08:18
Speaker
And I just think that really you know puts it into perspective how amazing it is when babies are born healthy and you know mothers go home, healthy babies in their arms. And it's truly a miracle every time. But it is scary thing that she went through. And i thought she did really great.
00:08:38
Speaker
Yeah, no, I completely agree. And at the end of it, they kind of wrapped up with a picture of baby and came on screen, Sam. za And in kind of a traditional fashion, very long name, um but they seem really excited. and I think it's it has a lot of potential.
00:09:00
Speaker
And I'm very curious though, once we start meeting some of his family, because it's interesting that we haven't met any of them other than Jose. So I'll be curious how that dynamic shifts and what his potential involvement is.
00:09:18
Speaker
Yeah, I would be interested to. I really think, you know, because we saw them and she's immediately in labor. It's just, yeah, it's, you know, there's not too, too much to say about them other than we're pretty impressed with how they've handled things. And it seems like they're.
00:09:35
Speaker
You know, they seem happy with the baby and excited about the baby. And they gave him a very long but very meaningful name. And i think that, you know, Amaya's mother seems very supportive. And hopefully Jose's family is also supportive. And I'm sure there'll be a ton of drama because there always is. And they wouldn't have been picked otherwise.
00:09:58
Speaker
But so far, it seems like things are going pretty darn well.
Bill and Bryce: A Complex Relationship
00:10:04
Speaker
Yes. So I think that kind of brings into us over to, in my opinion, right now, the most controversial and rocky of the relationships is Bill and Bryce.
00:10:18
Speaker
Because that one was kind of what got the most screen time, I feel like. They were close, se like tied almost with the third couple. But I think they kind of zoned in on here. and I still think my opinions stay the same that I am leaning towards siding with Isabella over Bryce.
00:10:40
Speaker
However, I'm starting to kind of have a little bit of sympathy for Bryce, which is a little shocking for me. Not a lot. Not a lot. But a little.
00:10:51
Speaker
Because I'm trying to think like teenage brain. Okay. And... She doesn't, I least, and maybe I missed it, she has not once said, I want you to get a job.
00:11:04
Speaker
It is always, my mom wants you to get a job. And I'm not saying that I think he doesn't need a job. I do.
00:11:15
Speaker
i think he should get any job that he can get. And we go into that debate again. But it did pick up on that of not once has she been like, I want you to get a job to help support our child.
00:11:30
Speaker
It has always been my mom wants you a job. You're not doing anything. She tells the camera it's to not, he's not helping and stepping up. But has she ever said that to him?
00:11:40
Speaker
We haven't seen it. It's very interesting. I was not expecting you to say that. I've got to say, um Because I watched the episode half screaming because I was so frustrated with Bryce. Honestly, though, I was more frustrated with Nana and Papa, which we can talk about. But I think it's a good point because not that... Okay, first of all, I think Isabelle saying, Isabelle saying, my mother wants you to get a job and my mother thinks that you should get a job is
00:12:17
Speaker
just true. It's true. It's valid. It's a good suggestion, you know, whatever. I think maybe she's kind of trying to couch her own feelings and be like, well, I, you know, it's not just for me, it's for the family. And this is what would make my mother happy. So that in turn would make things easier in a million ways because my mom does so much stuff for us. And so that should be a good reason. Almost like it's, it's a it's a good enough reason for Isabella to tell you to get a job. But if we add Tanya on there, then it's even more so like this is my mom thinks that you need to, which I think maybe she's using that to amplify her own point because it's clearly Isabella wants him to get a job and they're constantly fighting about it. So I'm sure she said a lot of different ways, but I think she thinks that
00:13:15
Speaker
putting this opinion in her mom's mouth instead of her own. I think she thinks it enhances her argument when to your point, maybe it doesn't because he's a snot nose 18 year old and he's like, I don't care what your mom thinks basically.
00:13:30
Speaker
yeah That's kind of where I, my brain went of like, h because again, i I'm not saying he doesn't need a job because he does. Man needs grow up.
00:13:42
Speaker
but Man keyword. Yeah. You're 18. Like, time to man up, get your job, take care of the baby you made. She's got a point on the couch when she says all this.
00:13:54
Speaker
But, I would like to think that she has said this and it's just not being shown on camera, but we haven't heard her say that to him. And even in front of his grandparents, I think the grandmother was like, yeah, he needs a job. But the minute that she said, my mom wants you to do it and not I want you to do it,
00:14:15
Speaker
that's when his grandfather started getting mad. Again, i don't... yeah, I think he overreacted and again missed the point of the conversation. But it is an interesting kind of take ownership. Again, she... he points out like kind of a the other side too of like she... you're pregnant for eight months.
00:14:40
Speaker
You could be working while in the beginning of your pregnancy. Was she working before that? We've only heard about Bryce having a job before, but has she ever had a job before? You could work at the beginning of your pregnancy.
00:14:54
Speaker
I don't think it's a bad point. I really don't. um I think at this point, she's probably unhirable.
Bryce's Background and Family Dynamics
00:15:01
Speaker
also don't know what her school situation is because she was saying that she was finishing school and it seems like she does a lot of babysitting for her mom. At least of truly, and again, we don't know the ages of other her other siblings.
00:15:16
Speaker
But I'm not saying that Isabella doesn't have any financial responsibility here, but she is obviously doing the lion's share of the physical work of actually creating their child. And he's not doing anything.
00:15:29
Speaker
And he's literally not doing anything because he even says, absolutely. r g I just sit in my bed all day like what's the problem Bryce that is the problem you are a loser and that is the problem and it's not it's not his character necessarily it's literally his actions and his inactions like he could decide to not be doing this I mean unless there's other stuff that we don't know about going on with Bryce like Mental health wise, substance abuse wise, I don't know. It does sound like he has very poor role models in his life. His father has passed away, which is tragic, but it seems like he was in and out of jail prior to that. And we don't know.
00:16:12
Speaker
the circumstances there but it seems not great and then his mother was partying a lot and didn't wasn't raising him and so her parents stepped in and have raised him since he's three years old and they seem to me like they feel a lot of guilt And they have enabled him and spoiled him as a result, which is not an uncommon dynamic, especially from grandparents.
00:16:43
Speaker
But i don't know if that's helping him now. And I do think grandma has a little bit more of a grasp on the reality of he's having a baby. Because when they, the four of them sat down for dinner, um And this is also one thing that I kind of got annoyed on their way to dinner.
00:17:05
Speaker
Isabel kind of goes, we could talk about this afterwards. I don't want to be upset. And then she starts the conversation about the job again before they even get there. ah like And again, this is such a teenage thing to do. It was like, it was very much a baby, like,
00:17:22
Speaker
I don't want to be mad, ah but like we're going to talk about this because I'm so upset. Pull over so we can have the conversation now rather than let's go to your grandparents, have dinner, and we can talk about this after.
00:17:36
Speaker
Yeah. i I think it was clearly like, you know, revolving in her mind. i To me, her idea of what this crab dinner was going to be was that it would be her, Nan, and Pawpaw standing side by side saying, Bryce,
00:17:51
Speaker
This is the time that you grow up. This is where you get a grip. Yeah, and I do think there actually was potential for that to happen if she had come in a little bit more open and took the approach of I need your help to prepare for this baby.
00:18:12
Speaker
But she kind of came in with the approach of being pissed off and didn't really want to talk about anything and Like just watching it, it was uncomfortable.
00:18:24
Speaker
Like I can't imagine what it would be like actually sitting at that table. And i was i was very uncomfortable. Oh yeah. It was awful. But that's what I mean. Like I think she had this idea in her head and I do actually think it could have went that way if they didn't fight beforehand and she came in more of a like, I need your help to, to help me help, help
The Burden of Teen Parenthood
00:18:48
Speaker
me help him. Like, I think that's,
00:18:51
Speaker
hopefully could have gone that way, but it just didn't. i I agree. I think that her grandparents, I mean, his grandparents had a different idea of what this dinner was going to be. And they were, you know, looking for it to be a pleasant experience for everybody. And so when she came in and it was obvious that they had been arguing prior to coming over, it wasn't like they kind of, they it wasn't like they played it off that everything was fine. So I think that, and Sure, sure. But I think that kind of naturally puts the grandparents on the defense as opposed to being like more open to just seeing where the conversation went. Yeah.
00:19:31
Speaker
So that, I mean, it did not help her case for sure, but it's just hard for me because Isabella is so clearly in the right and Bryce and his family is so clearly in the wrong in the ah in the idea that he does not, like getting a job should not be his top priority.
00:19:49
Speaker
And I was getting really frustrated where we were kind of dancing around that because there's just no if, ands, or buts about it. Even if Isabella's family was wealthy and they could just comfortably support this kid. it does not negate his responsibility and So there's just no, there's no other solution other than, which they did not do, other than his grandparents saying, we will pay you child support.
00:20:21
Speaker
They said, we'll buy stuff for the baby. That's all very lovely. That doesn't mean anything though, really, because this baby is not just going to be expensive at the time of our baby shower.
00:20:33
Speaker
It's going to be forever. So, and grandparents aren't, they don't have to do that. They don't have to be paying her monthly. They don't have to be splitting diapers and wipes and formula with Bryce. I mean, with Isabella for the rest of their lives.
00:20:50
Speaker
That's all on Bryce and he's an adult. So unless they're going to do some sort of other arrangement where, I mean, in a perfect world, maybe,
00:21:00
Speaker
Maybe Pawpaw could be like, you know what? I really want Bryce to go to college. So because I can afford it, which I don't know if he can or if he wants to or i you know, whatever. It's not his responsibility.
00:21:11
Speaker
But if he was like, I really want Bryce to go to college, so I'm going to be paying child support to Isabella until he can graduate and get that good job and take over.
00:21:22
Speaker
That's a solution that doesn't involve Bryce getting a job. But if that's not the solution, then the only solution is this kid getting off his butt and making some money.
00:21:35
Speaker
No, i agree. And I, but I do think I didn't know I felt like Papa was on board with getting a job until he was like, yeah, no, he does need to support his family. And then, cause, but I think his brain is going to like, he needs a real job, not like get a job at McDonald's. And that's what Bryce is so focused on is like, he's like, I'm not going to get any job because I'm entitled to making at least this much.
00:22:05
Speaker
And i think that, When Bella jumped down his throat, I think you're right. I think the defensiveness kicked in because it was already kind of the vibe where it turned into him basically saying like he doesn't need to get something right away. It should be something that can support.
00:22:24
Speaker
i don't think he...
00:22:27
Speaker
his intention was to say that he doesn't need a job at all. It did come across that way. oh but I think his intention was more of like, he needs like a, he needs a big kid job, not just any job. And I think Isabel would just be happy to see like the, it the effort. Are you applying? Are you trying? Like, and again, yeah any money is better than no money.
00:22:54
Speaker
But then again, when she brings up, it was again, my mom wants you to this. She just wants you to see this. And again, Pop-Pop got defensive because if she sat there and was like, i just want to see you applying to jobs. I just want to see you do something.
00:23:12
Speaker
i don't think he would have reacted the same way. I do think it's a stronger argument for her to make is that it's all for me because you and i are responsible for this baby. It's not our parents. It's not our grandparents. It's us because we have decided to continue with this pregnancy and we are going to have a child. And so this is.
00:23:34
Speaker
literally our responsibility and no one else's and i completely agree with that but i think that isabella isn in a much more vulnerable position and is worried that this guy is going to just completely flake on her and so a bunch of baby shower gifts don't mean that much and she doesn't feel like she can rely on him she doesn't feel like he's responsible, and she doesn't have the same access to being being able to get that big kid job because she's knocked up by him.
00:24:11
Speaker
So if she wanted to go out and pursue a career, she has a massive hurdle in her way that he doesn't have. And so I think it's all great if he wants to get a good job. I think that's better for everybody. If he gets a, you know, the more money he could make, the better. But what's the plan from getting to A to B? Because you said you're not going to college. You don't have a shitty job to move up in or to use on your resume. This dead time of you doing nothing is pretty bad for your resume and for your job prospects.
00:24:48
Speaker
And wouldn't it be better to have something to put on your resume than this gap? Something is better than nothing. And that is during that car season when she said they don't have anything for this baby and the baby's due in two months. Also kind of made me go, hold on.
00:25:06
Speaker
And again, it started reflecting on all of them. Both mom, both parents. Well, going to say parents, but grandparents and mom, both kids. Why is nobody preparing?
00:25:18
Speaker
Like I know like his mom is very, her mom is very focused on him getting a job to help prepare for this baby. Great. She's a hundred percent correct. But you still knew she was, everybody knows she's pregnant.
00:25:32
Speaker
This is not new. She's been pregnant for six months, give or take. Why is nothing being talked about? Nothing is being done. At this point, this baby is going to show up and there's nothing in this house minus a couple outfits. That's not going to help you.
00:25:47
Speaker
Like, Even if money is tight, you can buy things here. If you buy things in progression, it makes it the financial burden not as impactful. The minute you find out you're pregnant, okay, let's start putting money aside.
00:26:00
Speaker
Let's buy a bag of diapers here. Let's buy some wipes here because we can afford it this week. Donations, um thrift stores, like there is programs that can help you.
00:26:12
Speaker
And then when they're like, hey, well, let's help you get set up and maybe a baby shower. She says no. And again, I understand there's probably a lot of emotions there, but if you have nothing and you can't afford to get it and the baby daddy isn't working and you supposedly have people who are around you that want to support you, that is one way to get diapers. That is one way to get crib, a car seat.
00:26:43
Speaker
Things that you actually need. You don't need 30 outfits, but you do need diapers. Like, that also kind of rubbed me, what do you mean you have nothing?
00:26:56
Speaker
Yeah, I i also i agree with that. that she doesn't have like that that's not That's not a good position to be in. Oh, we have nothing for the baby and she's visibly pregnant.
Generational Patterns in Family Support
00:27:08
Speaker
I wonder if maybe her mom has a lot of hand-me-down things that she's just planning on letting her use, like stroller, crib, bassinet, all the things. Yeah, that's why I'm like, I just...
00:27:21
Speaker
There's something not sitting well with me with either of them anymore. Because before I was very 100% Isabel. But now I'm definitely still leaning towards her. But I'm feeling like we're starting to see a little bit of her kind of unravel.
00:27:37
Speaker
And i don't know. Again, they're still basically teenagers. their babies They're babies. 18, you are very influenced by your...
00:27:49
Speaker
guardians and that's just reality and there's very few of them that can be like nope I'm to stand up against what my parents say and do this because this is what I think is best not everyone can do that and I think this is a great example both of them are very stuck either in defiance or doing what their parents said.
00:28:11
Speaker
So it will be interesting as things go. the sneak peek for them definitely seems very volatile. um They go back and start fighting again.
00:28:23
Speaker
And Pop Pop seemed pissed. So I'm very curious what she said to really get that going.
00:28:36
Speaker
Well, I thought it was kind of interesting when Nan was saying that she felt like she was under attack the whole time because I did not perceive it to be going that way. I think that they, that maybe Nan feels under attack because she knows that she spoiled Bryson and kind of enabled him. And so even though that's not directly what Isabella is saying, it feels that way because she thinks that as well.
00:29:04
Speaker
um
00:29:07
Speaker
And with the baby shower stuff, at first when I was watching it, I was like, this girl is being kind of crazy. Like, of course you should have a baby shower because people will probably buy you, you know, a good percentage of the stuff that you're going to need in the first six months with this baby. And that'll give you a big head start and a leg up. And, you know, why wouldn't you do it?
00:29:31
Speaker
But I wonder if maybe she doesn't want to be
00:29:36
Speaker
indebted to his family and maybe she'd feel like they're going to hang it over her head if they're not really wanting to do it and it's more of just a oh well you know she really thinks Bryce should be paying for this stuff but like I guess our family will just do it or if it's maybe not coming from a place of genuinely wanting to or even if she just has mixed feelings about Bryce in general and their future together and maybe so Maybe in that case she doesn't want to have... Because it doesn't really seem like they're together. i guess they are, but it doesn't seem very stable.
00:30:17
Speaker
Like, she's ready to be done. Just not stable. i do think they're together as of right now, but definitely not stable. They're definitely together as of right now. um But if if every day she's kind of threatening to break up with him, then...
00:30:35
Speaker
it's like how together are you and I maybe wouldn't want to have a baby shower in that situation either because who wants to have a baby shower and be fighting with their boyfriend the whole time or the whole way there or everyone asking oh so what's Bryce doing these days when you're at the shower and you're like nothing he sits in his bed and does nothing not to be mean but I don't even think she has that foresight I think she's just angry That's how I took it.
00:31:05
Speaker
i don't think it was that deep. Well, I think she's disappointed. yeah think she thought that he would step up and he's not.
00:31:17
Speaker
But again, it comes back to the fact of like, they didn't really have all that much time together before she got pregnant. in And that's, that's a thing, big part of it. She romanticized him like everyone does at the beginning of a relationship. And then the real person comes out eventually. And I think she's starting to see a little bit of a different side of him um and having that aspect. But yeah, I would love to say that she had all those emotions, but I just really don't think she did.
00:31:45
Speaker
And the reality is, even if they don't stay together, she's still going to get that question for the rest of her life. What's Bryce doing? He is the father of her child. People are going to ask that regardless if you guys are together or not.
00:31:58
Speaker
Yeah. And that's why it's embarrassing that he's not doing anything. i I think maybe she's not a great thinker. I'm not sure. But I think that she does feel embarrassed. Yeah. She seems embarrassed.
00:32:09
Speaker
Yeah. She seems like this is not what I this is not what i thought he'd be doing while was pregnant. And I think that's pretty normal to kind of expect the man who got you pregnant to be taking some sort of accountability because he, again, cannot do anything at this phase for the baby. It's not like they're sharing childcare. She's doing 100% of the childcare because the baby's not born. So she's the one that's housing it.
00:32:35
Speaker
Yeah. And he's not... doing anything but that again comes back to our point of dread it's not real to him so her is not real it's growing inside her she feels it it's not real to him yet it's not real to him yet but nan i think knows it's real i don't know what papa thinks i think he's on his own delusional planet but nan knows it's real so for her she's probably also
Hope for Resolution: Bryce and Isabella's Family Conflicts
00:33:01
Speaker
pretty embarrassed at how bryce is acting i think she doesn't want to say it i think she wants to be on his team
00:33:07
Speaker
But I think if we gave her truth serum, she would say, this is not how I wanted him to be acting or what I expected him to do either. And I think Pawpaw is more on board to enable him.
00:33:23
Speaker
Yeah, I think Pawpaw just it got defensive. I think we might see, i hope, we might see another side of him when he's not, like when you didn't come in with an already kind of guard up. yeah Because him talking about them before they got here and like the point and like he did seem very in the beginning of the conversation too. Very open, very ready to help. Like, yeah, Bryce does need a job. But then the minute things got confrontational, he went on defense, protection, nobody's trying to talk to my kid like that kind of mode.
00:33:59
Speaker
Like, I don't know. I just felt a shift from him once the mood changed. And... She kind of like didn't really say much once the mood changed. So I'm just curious to see if like when things calm down, if Pop Pop's demeanor changes, his opinion changes, or if he digs his healings. Because he could go either way.
00:34:22
Speaker
Yeah, I'm definitely curious to see what happens because I don't think this is like an unfixable situation. which some of them are like sometimes it's really bad on these shows and it's like there's no possible way that we could make even a co-parenting situation work.
00:34:40
Speaker
I don't really think that's the case here. I think that they could come to a resolution um and things could be okay with the family, with their relationship, like probably could make it all work. I just think that we need a lot of like maturity and guidance and I don't know that we're getting that
00:35:02
Speaker
So, I mean, things may change because when the baby comes, it'll be more real to everybody. But next episode is the end of that dinner. gets a little explosive, so it'll be interesting what we see next.
00:35:16
Speaker
Yeah. I'll probably be mad the whole time because that's where I was this time. was very defensive over Isabella. was like, she's right. and They're wrong. i But i oh I know there's nuance to it. Yeah, overall, I think she is. But I don't think she's as perfect as we think she is simply because of how horrible he is.
00:35:36
Speaker
But i I feel very validated to hear you say he's horrible because I was worried that you didn't think he was horrible. Oh, no, he's the worst. I think he's horrible. I mean, I think he's just...
00:35:47
Speaker
i mean you couldn't pay me to be around an 18 year old boy also. Like there's, there's not a person that I would, that I would never want to hang out with Bryce. Like just in general. And my first episode comment of Ben Hennon, he's the worst still stands.
00:36:04
Speaker
I just think that she, my first episode opinion of them was like, she's great. She's correct. He's the worst. And I think it's now he's still the worst.
00:36:15
Speaker
She's mostly correct, but I don't- there's something about her I just don't know yet. Yeah, her approach is probably off. I think also her mom is in her ear every day. Maybe that's it. Maybe mom is the bad, like maybe poor Isabel is just sitting in the middle and she's like, just can't think for herself. And while everything coming out is all mom, but yeah in she also rubs the wrong way.
00:36:42
Speaker
But imagine you had five kids with five deadbeat dads that did not show up and did not do anything. you would be terrified for your daughter to be in that position.
00:36:53
Speaker
Oh, absolutely. But then also, you know what it's like. Why aren't you being more supportive? You know, a baby's coming, help your kid. well Because she is going to help her kid, but she wants her, her daughter to have a different experience than her.
00:37:11
Speaker
I don't think, I think that, well, for sure, absolutely. But I think it's like, I think her mother mentioned that her mother was the one supporting her when she had Isabella because her boyfriend was in jail.
00:37:26
Speaker
So she's just experiencing these patterns repeat themselves in a way that probably feels very terrible to her. Like, this is not what I wanted to happen and this
Mia and Jesse: Responsibility and Potential Issues
00:37:38
Speaker
is what's happened. and these patterns are all repeating themselves and oh my goodness Bryce is just as bad as all of my kids dads and Isabella is going to be in this same situation where she's going to need my help forever and she's not going to have anyone to co-parent with so I'm her co-parent forever so even though my youngest is five years old I'm actually starting all over again I think it's a fear yeah and that fear could be winning
00:38:07
Speaker
because of his actions right now but we'll see because we do have one more couple to talk about so we got introduced to our fourth couple mia and jesse like mia me personally i like her um i don't know how i feel about jesse but i like her i can't really understand him when he talks he also doesn't look 16 so they're both 16
00:38:37
Speaker
To me, he looks a lot older. i don't know if it's just the way that the camera angle was, but he looked way older to me. And she looks younger, which also is like It makes it seem a little weird, but they're both 16. I would have guessed 16. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, I thought she looked more like 14. No, would have guessed 16. But again, this girl's going to school. She's got a job. She puts half her paycheck in her savings and spends the other half. Like, she actually is pretty responsible, considering. and
00:39:10
Speaker
Granted, she's not pregnant, not very responsible, but like most kids you can't go up to and be like, hey, how much is your paycheck? And she can give you the number, where it goes, what she spends it on. Like, I was pretty impressed.
00:39:25
Speaker
Me too. I thought that that was great. Very responsible. I mean, she did go shopping for decorations for her baby shower and shopping. pretty over budget.
00:39:36
Speaker
oh So I think that maybe there's still some, even though, know, going to school, working... It seems like they're in a pretty committed relationship. There's a promise ring involved, which means absolutely nothing.
00:39:51
Speaker
But at 16, that does mean something. For them, it does. At 16, it does. At 22, it does not. But at 16, it's very sweet to have that. It's very it's very like cute. And it does seem like they're very they're very committed to each other. They're not in an on and off again thing.
00:40:12
Speaker
that they were, you know, shopping for her baby shower and she was gonna spend $300 and ended up spending $871. Grown adults do that too though. like Oh, i' I've done that. Right? Like all of us have gone to Target and been like, no, no. Target told me that I needed this. Therefore, I spent $500. Also, decorations and be stuff, it adds up very quickly.
00:40:38
Speaker
Like I just you know planned a bridal shower and a bachelorette party and though for a a friend of mine that's getting married and it's Things are more expensive than you ah initially assume because you're like, oh, it's like $4 for this. Like her balloons were $4, but it's you buy six of them. And then you need, you know, you need decorations for this table. And then you need things to hang from the ceiling and you need a banner and you need, everybody needs fun straws. And it's all so cute. And especially for baby showers. Like I've helped with baby showers before too. And everything's very adorable. They're like, aw, well, we need 10 of these.
00:41:16
Speaker
and i love the theme that they did it was holy cow we're having a baby very very cute no very cute they probably didn't need all the decorations but you know if you're having a party for 50 people it's gonna be expensive and i think it's lovely that her dad's having that party at her at his house and like that's obviously a huge you know savings as well they're not paying for a venue but you know you want it to be all in theme and very cute so i'm not hating on it and i'm also very irresponsible with stuff like that but also it's her money it's not like she went out and spent daddy's money so again i gotta give it to her yeah and like at 13 an hour like it takes a while to earn that amount of money after taxes and everything so like that's almost two paychecks that she spent
00:42:05
Speaker
yeah And that's, i I mean, if that's how she wants to spend it, I think that's fun. But it's it's maybe not the best use of her money at this point. Like, that's 67 hours of work if if there's no taxes.
00:42:24
Speaker
Yeah. And if you're having a baby, we have other priorities probably. Right. And again, was 16. So, but then looking at the friends that went with her, this is the first couple we see friends being supportive out of the four so far.
00:42:40
Speaker
And one of those had a baby. Oh, yeah. it's really cute. It was super cute. But... Clearly, another friend of hers is in a similar situation, so it's not as bizarre to all of them.
00:42:54
Speaker
This is the first couple we have that friends are like, yeah, babies, woohoo, versus every other couple, it's just been them. So I think it's kind of an interesting fact that there's more support there than some of the other ones that as far as we know so far.
00:43:11
Speaker
Yeah. And she has a friend who's in a similar situation. That was a new baby. So it's not like, unless it ends up being like their sibling or something, but like you have someone that might understand what you're going through, which also could be helpful.
00:43:29
Speaker
Definitely. It kind of reminds me of Chelsea from Teen Mom. Cause she, she had always friends around that also had little kids that were the same age as her baby. And I do think that's probably very helpful. like logistically, practically, but just like also having people to talk to that understand the situation that you're in.
00:43:51
Speaker
um You know, you can go to your other, your friends and, oh, I'm dealing with this problem or my baby's sick or she's up all night or she's teething and they and they actually understand and they're not just like, oh, well, yeah, that stinks.
00:44:06
Speaker
You know, they they're not they're not in a completely different phase of life as her. Yeah. But so what we talked about in all last episode, each of the kids too, is their understanding of like sex ed and things like that.
Sex Education: Understanding and Misunderstanding
00:44:24
Speaker
And in this one her dad is very present. She doesn't have the best relationship with her mom. And then it's like flipped for Jesse. Mom's involved. Dad's not involved. So, but Mia's dad was like, you know what? I kind of blame myself for not putting her on birth control. Like I could have done better. And then during the interview, it came out that they were actually educated. They were using condoms and Jesse took off the condom.
00:44:54
Speaker
during sex and that husband got pregnant and he did not take that well clearly that was not something he knew prior to this interview either and that just shows the like the immaturity thing again of like the whole line of like oh it feels better without a conda like like every single single teenage boy has tried that line at least once every 20 something year old man has tried that at least once like But at her at being the age that she is not truly grasping the like pushback of like, it's okay to be like, no, put it back on.
00:45:31
Speaker
We're not doing this. Well, for sure that, but there's a there's multiple levels I feel like to this because- Oh yeah, no that was just my surface because how, yeah, no. And yeah and I have a feeling i know where you're going and I agree, but you can go. but Oh, well, I don't know if this is what you think I was going to say, but I would have never told my parents that.
00:45:53
Speaker
because they will they would hate Jessie. my like telling I can't imagine the situation of being Mia and saying that to my dad, who would already be so mad about the teen pregnancy. And he would be a million times more mad at Jessie.
00:46:11
Speaker
And he already didn't like him. He already doesn't like him. Probably deservedly so. Based on just this information. feel like we have sharpest cool more reasons why we're going to learn why we don't like him. But. Oh, Jesse.
00:46:27
Speaker
oh Jesse, Jesse, Jesse. Yeah. I'm excited to but learn more about their history because dad seems like a really chill dude. And for him to not like him before the pregnancy and now after pregnancy, he definitely didn't like him. And then he learned Jesse took the condom off. Now he like really doesn't like him. I'm curious why we didn't like him to begin with.
00:46:50
Speaker
I would have to really take some time to come to terms with that information because it's... It's like a million times worse than them just being like caught in the moment or something. Like, I don't even Well, uneducated.
00:47:03
Speaker
We didn't know. We were being so stupid where it's like, no, instead you you knew the right thing to do and you actually started to do it correctly and then stopped for Jesse's pleasure, for his 15 seconds of pleasure, like to ruin my daughter's life. Assuming. We're assuming. perfect Because according to her, she doesn't know why he did it We know why he did it. but we're We're assuming for sure. But I think that's if i'm if I'm dad, if I'm Keith, that's what I'm also assuming. like Because again, he was a teenage boy once too.
Mia's Family Dynamics
00:47:39
Speaker
Sure. I guarantee you dad said that line at least once in his dumb years. like yeah Oh my gosh. I'm really glad that you said that actually, because I did want to point out that Keith is 47. Yeah.
00:47:52
Speaker
And his daughter is 16. Yeah. So he was not a teen parent. He had her at 31. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. like Prior to that, he probably had a couple dumb moments. So he knows how a teenage boy thinks. like Right.
00:48:07
Speaker
But I just wanted to say that it's like interesting because most of these most of the other parents on an Unexpected were teen parents themselves. And he's not. And I think he also, i like him. I think he's trying his best to be a good dad. I think he was in a relationship with, from what we do know about his mom, her mom, excuse me.
00:48:28
Speaker
She just had a lot going on and they were very polite about talking about it. But I think he tried really hard for a long time to make it work with mom. And it finally got to a point where he's like I have to pick between my wife and my daughter and I'm going to pick my daughter.
00:48:43
Speaker
And I got to give him credit for that. But if they only split up, she said they split up two and a half years ago. So they were together a very long time. Officially split up.
00:48:56
Speaker
Sure. If you caught that. Yes. Which I have a feeling. I what that means. Like, is that divorced? Like, it was finalized? I think that is like... mom might have been in and out of the house like she wasn't always around like they were together but if she partied a lot or had a substance like we don't know the specifics yet but right we kind of assume that as well ah we don't know but yeah as well but like again if they could still be together and he was holding on hope that she was going to get help or it was a phase or
00:49:30
Speaker
It was just heartbreaking. Like, you know, people stay in relationships longer than they should, particularly when there's kids involved. And yeah i I wonder if that's what it was of like, she might've been, they might've been together for 10, 12 years, but how much were they actually together? Yeah.
00:49:48
Speaker
i I would like to know that as well, because I wonder if there was a point where things were very stable with all of them and then something happened or especially if there was some sort of a substance abuse issue, if maybe that is more recent.
00:50:05
Speaker
And so that's kind of been the catalyst of this family you know not being together anymore. um they were being all very polite about it but i do think based on just like coming ups and previews and stuff that and because the mom is supposed to be at the baby shower that maybe we'll get more information get more insight um which you know i'd like to know more because it seems like they must have been together for like 13 14 years And i mean, maybe it was all bad. Maybe it was always unstable chaos, but maybe it wasn't. And that's more of a recent thing, which I think in its own way can also be heartbreaking because ah especially for Mia, if her mother was a present good force for a lot of her life and now this is a massive change where her mom is not in the picture, not involved, doesn't care, doesn't want to know.
00:50:59
Speaker
that i feel like in some ways would be worse than her from the beginning always being a mess and never really being involved it doesn't sound like that's the case though it doesn't sound like she was absent her whole life it sounds like she was involved and was in a relationship with her dad and it's just not like that anymore yeah but again i think yeah i don't know i think seeing some relationships in other situations where, again, the kid might not have known and been fully aware.
Parental Protection and Family Secrets
00:51:34
Speaker
And I'm of the opinion of like, there are age appropriate things that children should know about just because your parents going through something at seven doesn't mean you should know.
00:51:44
Speaker
And I think if there is an issue and the parents were trying to deal with it or mom was trying to deal with it, she might not have necessarily known to the extent that all of it was happening.
00:51:55
Speaker
And Like if mom goes on a work trip, doesn't necessarily mean mom's at a work trip.
00:52:03
Speaker
And that could be true too. I think we've seen things on other reality TV shows that they're like, oh yeah, daddy's away for work and daddy's actually in jail. Like, because it's easier to explain to your child that, hey, they're at a work trip and trying to explain to your four-year-old that your dad's in jail and you can't talk to them.
00:52:27
Speaker
I don't know. I think I'm just trying to figure out like, cause it is a long time. They danced around it a lot. So I'm excited to hear more aboutism about her, her mom and like what that dynamic is when she shows up, but and don't think it was stable the whole time, but that's just my guess.
00:52:44
Speaker
Well, I really hope. so I definitely hope they tell us. Um, I feel like the only last thing I wanted to talk about was that Mia's dad doesn't let Jesse sleep over, which I personally i'm on board with.
00:53:08
Speaker
but oh yeah. Yeah. I think you could definitely make an argument that maybe um it's like, oh, well, she's already pregnant. So what does it matter? And I guess there's multiple schools of thought on that. But I feel like just because she's pregnant, if this was already the rule, I don't think that necessarily changes the rules. Well, that was kind of our introduction to that couple, which I thought was a pretty good start.
Predictions for Future Episodes
00:53:33
Speaker
Do you have any predictions that you want to share for the next episode and or the season after we have this second kind of bite of their lives?
00:53:46
Speaker
Well, I really want to predict that Bryce is going to get a job because I do think that that would give us new things to talk about in their segments. And maybe we could get kind of past this initial this initial issue. Um, so that's what I would like to predict.
00:54:03
Speaker
And then what i actually think is, i just think with Bella and Hunter, we're going to see a lot of, a lot of drama happening with the families just because I've become recently invested in Bella's mom's TikToks. And i was bummed that they weren't on this episode, but I'm really looking forward to future episodes with them.
00:54:25
Speaker
um But I don't have like a lot of specific predictions. How about you? i agree about is Bella's mom because you sent me one. So I'm very interested. um but for the most part, i don't know if I agree. I don't know if I have specifics. i I have some hopes and dreams for them all. um But I do think so far, like, I would like to start seeing more of Amaya and Jose because we came in at a weird spot for them. So we don't really know anything about them.
00:54:59
Speaker
And I would like to say Jose is going to stay this positive ray and sunshine that he is in my brain. and I fear that he is not. Yeah.
00:55:09
Speaker
um but and i kind of am looking forward to understanding why dad doesn't like jesse and i'm really hoping it's not because he reminds her of her mom that's my fever
00:55:26
Speaker
oh like you think maybe he's dabbling in substances himself was it the hat i don't know his vibe just gave me like not there
00:55:40
Speaker
and but I do say i do think he really does like care about her I really do think he's super into this relationship but I think the two guys that are like in it is gonna be Jesse and Jose like I think those two of the four are really like I made a baby i like my girl i' in it here we go so yeah i think it'll be good but I don't know time will tell
00:56:12
Speaker
Yeah, time will certainly tell. All right. Well, time like next Monday. We'll we'll see what the next installment is going to be. I'm looking forward to it. And until then, bye for now.
00:56:25
Speaker
Till next time.