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Drew gets Punk’d…Again
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We review Money In The Bank, discuss the latest and greatest in AEW & NXT. Sheena dives into her love of audio books, and we answer your listener mail!
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Introduction and Topics Overview
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Welcome to the Chick Foley Show.
00:00:22
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What is up Foley fam? We are through with Money in the Bank weekend and we are cashing in on the newest episode of the Chick Foley show. We're going to be doing our review of a previously mentioned Money in the Bank event from this year. We're going to be talking a little bit of NXT and AEW, give you guys a keeping it Tronquillo recommendation and answering some listener mail. But before we do all that, let me introduce the star of the show, Sheena. How are you doing? I'm doing well. Ready to spend another fine evening here, chatting and wrestling with you. So it's about it.
Gardening Insights with Sheena
00:00:52
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Let us know what's new on the farm. Just starting new seeds, pulling in all the harvest from the summer crops, starting another round of those, and then getting ready for the fall, winter garden. Then, like I talked about last week, get my butt in the kitchen and start preserving all this stuff. Let the listeners know because I'd be willing to bet the majority of them aren't gardeners. You say when you're getting through with the summer stuff and starting to roll into the fall stuff, what does that transition look like?
00:01:19
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What plants are you talking about as far as summer stuff? I'm starting another round. Once the high heat of the summer hits in mid-July, early August, your plants start to peter out. Those plants that you planted in the spring, they slow down on their production. They start to look a little sickly. You go ahead and start seeds now to get another round of those. Say, for instance, cucumbers. You start your cucumbers.
00:01:42
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in like April and then you know by the by July they're like they're spent so next you go ahead and start another round of seeds get another round of cucumbers going for the for the late summer and harvest all of those and then you know you start planting your cool weather crops like all your brassicas cauliflower broccoli your lettuces things like that that like it really cold carrots so it's just it's always it's like a constant rotation like a you know always looking to the next thing looking ahead
00:02:10
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And the stuff that's kind of running out of steam right now, that's primarily due to just the summer heat. Yeah, and the plants have been in the ground for months now. Their lifespan is only so long. So you got cucumbers, summer squash, some fruiting plants, tomatoes, things like that. Their peak production is probably right about now. And then in the next couple of weeks, they're going to just fall off. And then the heat's going to get the best of them. So then you have these new, fresh, strong plants
00:02:37
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that are just budding and they go into the ground and they're ready to rock and roll. Cool. I know a lot of our listeners really love the what's new on the forum segment is a little appetizer just to ease into the wrestling
Listener Discounts and Social Media
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00:03:31
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You ready to rock and roll? Talk about money in the bank. Let's do it. All right.
Money in the Bank Match Highlights
00:03:37
Speaker
So we kicked off the money in the bank event with the men's money in the bank match. Drew McIntyre came away with the money in the bank briefcase. So what were your overall thoughts on the match? Jay Uso just continues to get more and more over. I love the way they presented his entrance and
00:03:55
Speaker
You know, it was very believable that he was going to win it. I actually ended up picking him. You know, he was he was my final prediction, even though I literally called it on the show last week that he was going to win. But I went with the same things because it seemed he just over to the point where it just seems kind of undeniable. But the match kind of was what it was. I'd say it was probably middle of the road for Money in the Bank matches. I feel for the guys because we've seen so many of these matches over the years that
00:04:21
Speaker
I mean, I'm not imaginative enough. I don't even really know what you could do to, you know, show us something new or make something stand out amongst the pack. I did like the ending with Drew just straight up like javelin throwing the ladder and hitting J off the top for kind of getting the briefcase. But the match kind of was what it was to me.
00:04:38
Speaker
Yeah, there was some good, there was some high spots. I mean, Andrade and Carmelo had that like Spanish fly off the ring into the, you know, the ladder. I mean, look, look pretty brutal. I mean, there was, it wasn't like a complete dud. It was just like you said, I feel like we've seen so many money in the bank matches. And like we talked about last week, I think it was just so like you had all these guys and there was really only two paths, right? There was only like two guys that you thought could even win. So I think that kind of takes a little bit of the steam out of it.
00:05:03
Speaker
And like you, I picked Jay on the picks and I knew better. I called it last week on the show. I called it exactly how it was going to go. And then I got, I had a crisis of confidence right when I was doing my Foley picks for the picks league and picked Jay. Then when Jay came in first, they introduced him first and like the crowd just like, you know, went wild. And like he came down through the audience and you know, everybody was doing the, you know, the whole main event Jay thing and, uh,
00:05:27
Speaker
I was like, oh man, he's not going to win. I just knew that was his feel good moment. You know what I mean? I feel like that was the moment. So I had a bad feeling once that happened that he wasn't going to be walking away with a briefcase. Yeah, I wavered just because I was really kind of doing a multi-pick parlay with that whole fantasy book I laid out last week with Drew winning Money in the Bank.
00:05:46
Speaker
Seth beating Damian Priest, Drew cashing in and then CM Punk somehow screwing it up. And I couldn't get past that. Damian Priest must leave the judgment day if he loses thing. And so that kind of made me think the whole thing was falling apart. Maybe I should just go with the with the safe picks. But yeah, like I said, it kind of was what it was. Hey, Drew's got another, you know, another accomplishment he can add to the resume now. He's been a Royal Rumble winner. Now he can say he's Mr. Money in the bank.
The Role of Money in the Bank Briefcase
00:06:10
Speaker
You want to roll right into the World Heavyweight Championship? Yeah, I was going to say that's probably the smoothest transition
00:06:15
Speaker
Since you talked about Damien priest, so Damien priest did defend his, uh, his title, um, beat Seth free. Well, it went into a, uh, triple threat. Yeah. He didn't beat. Yeah. He didn't beat Seth. Yeah. He painted, he ended up, um, painting drew, but yeah, it was just.
00:06:30
Speaker
There were so many spots in this match, it was a huge botch, which kind of just like took the steam out of the match. Because overall, the match was awesome. I thought Seth looked great, man. I mean, Daniel Priest, he was Daniel Priest. I thought Seth looked really, really good. He looked like he had an extra step or two from what we've seen him most recently, which, you know, he was pretty banged up there towards the end of that last run. But that was the one thing I really got to meet for this match. Seth looked great.
00:06:50
Speaker
I'm not one that, you know, a lot of people have been dog piling Damien Priest. Obviously, if you didn't, if you hadn't seen it by yet, spoiler alert, Seth straight up had Damien Priest pinned. He had his shoulders to the mat and the ref basically just stopped the count just, you know, to keep the story going, just because there would have been so many implications if they did the thing. We've always been told that the rule in WWE is that the ref's count is a shoot, right? And it's on the wrestlers to kick out. But I think there were so many implications and second and third order effects to it. If he just would have followed through that,
00:07:19
Speaker
It would have been a mess. Well, like we talked about, I mean, after seeing it back, I think, I don't think it was a timing issue with Damian Priest. I think he really did get like his bell wrong. I think he got knocked out. You look at the body. Go back and look at the facial expression, dude. Like he, uh, it looked like Summer's Survivor Series 2016 when Shane got knocked out by Roman and he gets pinned. Shane actually kicked out instead of getting pinned. Shane got kicked out, but the ref was still like, no, you're eliminated. Like,
00:07:44
Speaker
Same thing. He just looks completely out of it and you can see him kind of wiggling his fingers like he's trying to, you know, get his senses back. I think he just came down on the back of his head really hard. And I mean, dude, shit happens when it's not ballet out there. I can get past it. It looks like they're not making that.
00:08:15
Speaker
really part of
00:08:16
Speaker
We got rid of the briefcase, which I'm glad about, dude. To be honest, I'm really over the briefcase. When I first got back into wrestling in 2014, I loved the briefcase. I thought it was so cool. That could have just been a product of Seth being the first Mr. Money in the Bank after I got back into it. He's arguably one of the best Mr. Money in the Bank. I don't think he's arguable. I think he was the best as far as just being Mr. Money in the Bank combined with the cash-in and then the aftermath. It was legitimate. Phenomenal.
00:08:42
Speaker
Most of the time, the last couple of years, when people have cashed in successfully, it's been like a lame duck title reign, right? It's never felt earned. It feels kind of cheap, and they end up... It typically ends up being kind of insignificant, what they do afterwards. I don't know, where are you at in regards to the overall briefcase and cash in as a plot device?
00:09:00
Speaker
I think it's a good, I think it's a good plot device. I'm not over it. Um, I am glad that they went ahead and just like cashed it out for this year. Um, because Damien priests carried it for damn near the entire year last year. And I feel like, you know, just taking kayfabe out of it. We have so many like irons in the fire right now at the top of the card. And I feel like the briefcase was just unnecessary messiness, right? Like it was just an opportunity for things to get muddy.
00:09:24
Speaker
things to get messed up, whereas they used the briefcase in a way to further the Drew and CM Punk storyline, which was way more beneficial than what it would have been used for to be able to cash in. Typically, it's been used as a big reset button on the creative picture at the top of the card. Yeah, because we still have Rock and Roman and Cody and Seth and Gunther and all these people just right at the top of the card. There's no need for that. You know what I mean? There's so much going on.
00:09:53
Speaker
How poetic is it that CM Punk screwed Drew over to set up the cash in a Damian priest and then when Drew tried to get it back, CM Punk screwed that over to you, man. Exactly, dude. At this point, it's a straight up blood feud. I like your idea that you've presented on the show before where one year it's the men's money in the bank, one year it's the women's money in the bank. I don't think there should be two money in the banks every single year.
00:10:14
Speaker
Yeah, it's a lot. I think that'd be good if it was just every other year you had a shot at it. And like, I mean, to me, that's like my compromise. I'd really take it a step further and make it something that you, I liked Money in the Bank best, like kind of looking back over the years when it was a WrestleMania match, dude. Like just, I think once every two or three years at WrestleMania, you say, Hey, you know what? We got a bunch of top guys that don't have something going on. We're going to do a Money in the Bank match. Cause it's always a good match, right? It's a fun match.
00:10:40
Speaker
If you only did it every couple years, it would be less exposed, and it gives you something to, yeah, I think it would do creative a favor because it gives a bunch of people something really meaningful to do at WrestleMania, and you really don't gotta have a bill to it, right? Just show up, ring the bell, and it's gonna be fun. Yeah, and I feel like they always try to make the money in the banks, like, they make it so gimmicky. Like, if you have the money in the bank, you have to have some sort of, like, shtick, right? Like, you know, it's gonna be the yeet case, or it's gonna be, you know, the, what was it, the beast in the bank? Senor, senor in the bank. Yeah, senor in the bank.
00:11:09
Speaker
had the boombox, Otis had the lunchbox. I mean, it's a marketing goal. That's why it's not going anywhere. I've kind of just resigned to the fact that it's just something I got to learn to love. But I don't know, over time, I've just, I feel like more times than not, it ends up just being more annoying than anything else. So that's my grumpy old man wrestling fan take, dude, is that the briefcase is no good. And it has the potential to just mess up some really good matches, right? Because then you might have this like world title match, and then all of a sudden, like, you know, it's like the
00:11:34
Speaker
not a real cash-in like they just run in and kind of just disturb shit and then you're like you know get somebody pinned and it just kind of ruins like puts a bad taste in your mouth for what could have been a really good match you know there have been good times like that like i remember i think it added something to it at summer slam 2022 the one we were at with austin theory threatening to cash in and he had been so hyped up going into that that like when his music hit in the middle of that last man standing match you thought for a second like oh crap maybe he is going to make it happen but obviously you know getting his ass kicked because that's what austin theory does best but uh
00:12:03
Speaker
But yeah, I was happy with it. I feel like, you know, Priest is a straight up lamb being led to slaughter, going up against Gunther at SummerSlam. I don't see any scenario where Gunther doesn't leave with that belt. And that's the other reason why I really got to be critical. I think it was a misstep that
00:12:20
Speaker
that they didn't have Rollins win, man. I feel like, you know, obviously we're super biased being big Seth Rollins fans here, but I feel like Seth Rollins and Gunther work so much better as one of your premier matches at SummerSlam instead of Priest and Gunther. I mean, anything can happen between now and then. We don't, I mean, obviously like that was the, that was a direction that they pointed the winner of this match in, but I don't, I mean, I don't think it's a lock, right? I mean, they've already thrown up the match graphics and says, you know, it's, it's, I mean, you're right. It's wrestling. They could always, you know, they could always pivot, but
00:12:50
Speaker
But it seems like it's a down deal. It seems like we're getting priest and going through. Yeah. I feel like, I mean, that's just going to be like a straight up squash. Yeah.
00:12:59
Speaker
So we'll jump backwards real quick. We'll go back in time. And surprisingly, to my surprise, at least, Sami Zayn defeated Brian Breaker. I mean, clean. Sami's a made man at WWE, dude. If you didn't know it before, this was the reminder to everybody that WWE sees Sami Zayn as a straight up top, top guy, man.
00:13:21
Speaker
I thought like I thought Braun should have got the win. Braun's been he's gotten over so much and he's looked so unstoppable. But you know, did it put Sammy over? I do think bronze getting that belt sooner rather than later. Probably SummerSlam. I think it breaks the intercontinental title with even more prestigious. So I mean, do you think they're just going to run this back at SummerSlam? Yeah, I think so. I mean, we may end up getting some sort of gimmick. You know, maybe we get Last Man Stadium or something like that. Extreme Rules because Braun's just, you know, been going
Sami Zayn's Victory and WWE's Perspective
00:13:46
Speaker
nuts on people and stuff. So maybe maybe we get some sort of gimmick on it.
00:13:49
Speaker
I think Bron's getting the belt. I think the best choice would have been probably just having him go ahead and win to keep his unstoppable kind of run going. But I do think there was some value in having Sammy get the win because now it's arguably going to mean even more when Bron does win. Yeah, I see that.
00:14:08
Speaker
We'll move on to the fourth, almost the final match. Just the short card. Yeah, I only got five matches on this one. Tiffany Stratton is your miss money in the bank. Again, I went against my better judgment on the show. I was like, there's no way they're not going to let Tiffany win. And then I picked Chelsea Green, which again, Chelsea almost got it. She was the most over.
00:14:28
Speaker
Yeah, she didn't go over, but she got over. Yeah, and she had a killer spot, dude. I mean, where she tipped over the ladder and through the double tables, like, you know, shout out to Chelsea for taking that bump because it was mage. I thought Chelsea was the star of the match, dude. Like her comedy spots, being scared of heights. Obviously, she took the spectacular bump at the end. The crowd was behind her.
00:14:50
Speaker
And I'll be honest, you guys heard me out here. I've never been the biggest Chelsea Green fan. I've been slow to come around, but I'll straight up admit I was wrong about her. I think she's a future star. I think she is.
00:15:00
Speaker
I almost kind of like the female version of the Miz, right? A little bit of comedy can be a heel, but the fans can get behind him with the right story or on the right night. And I think she's got a really, really bright future ahead of her. To plug another wrestling podcast, if you guys want to go over to the Ringer Wrestling Show, she actually co-hosted the episode of the Masked Man show with Dave Shoemaker.
00:15:22
Speaker
this week, really, really good interview. You kind of just hear her take on wrestling and she addresses that, you know, she knows that she's basically like a good enough wrestler. Right. Like she talked about, like, you know, not being able to do all the super impressive stuff that Jaden Bianca do and the crazy flips that people like Tiffany and, yeah, and people like EO and, you know, Soul Rucka down in NXT that they do. But
00:15:46
Speaker
But she said that's not her thing. She said she's all about the character and still being, you know, good enough, still being passable, being solid in the ring. But she's all about the character work and letting that be the way that she makes her connection with the fans. And so just really, really good podcast. So definitely check that out if you get a chance. You need some lists, too. I thought this match was great. I thought it was awesome. I thought it was by far the best women's money in the bank match we've had so far. And, you know, maybe it gets a little bit of bonus from sticking out a bit more because it was the ladies. But I think it was one of the best money in the bank matches I've seen.
00:16:15
Speaker
Yeah, dude, that spot with EO and Zoey Stark, like off the top of the ladder. I mean, I just, I was like, they're dead. There's no way. Like, how do you survive that? You know, jumping off the top of the ladder like that. So yeah, there was lots of high spots. I think, I mean, I think Tiffany is going to do a great job as Miss Money in the Bank. It's definitely a heel gimmick and I can't wait to see, you know, how she does.
00:16:37
Speaker
it's real good because you know she's been buddying up with Queen Naya over the past couple weeks so you got that awesome dynamic right where two heels are both both chasing the belt at the same time you know maybe Bailey gets them to do you know the Looney Tunes take each other out and ends up walking away with the belt I I was a little bit surprised to see Tiffany win just because
00:16:56
Speaker
She seems like such just a freaking blue chip, like five star prospect that you feel like she's more of like when the Royal Rumble and go and get that first championship win at WrestleMania. Right. Making that like a real crowning moment that you just really don't get with the money in the bank wins. You know what I mean? Like every every once in a while I always feel kind of slimy.
00:17:15
Speaker
Yeah, every once in a while, you'll get lightning in a bottle with somebody like Seth, where it combines them being like an up and comer along with getting that triumphant moment. But for the most part, I feel like a lot of the money in the bank moments, it's your heels getting it, or it's kind of like a career upper mid-card person finally kind of getting over the hump. And I don't know, she definitely doesn't fit either one of those. We'll see where it goes. Tiff, she's great, dude. It's always Tiffy time at our house. It should make for a really fun match, a summer slam, especially if her and Nia continue to be buddy, buddy.
00:17:45
Speaker
on the way there.
Women's Money in the Bank Success Rate
00:17:46
Speaker
Yeah. Has every women's cash in been successful? All right. So let's go through them. So first we had Carmela cashed in on Charlotte.
00:17:54
Speaker
Uh, pull, look up women's, pull up the, uh, women's money in the bank on, uh, on there. Let me try to go off memory though. So 2008, 2017 was the first one and Carmelo won and cashed in on Charlotte. 2018 was, I don't remember what, did Bailey win in 2018? Let me see. Pulling them up right now. History. Okay. Oh, no, this is the regular money in the bank. Sorry. I looked up, tried to look up the women's match. Uh,
00:18:23
Speaker
Just look up women's money in the bank. I just did. I did. 2019 was, I want to say, maybe 2019 was Bailey. That's what you want. I don't know. Look up. We know 2020 was Oscar. That's when Oscar won. Alexa Bliss, Nia Jax. Oh yeah. So 2018, yeah. Alexa Bliss cashed in when Ronda Rousey was about to beat Nia Jax for the belt. 2019 was Bailey, right? Did Bailey win 2019? That's pulling up. I don't know. My internet's acting like it doesn't know how to act, so.
00:18:52
Speaker
Anyway, it doesn't matter, but I'm just, I mean, how long is it gonna take you? I mean, I can go through most of them, dude. Okay, here we go. Let's scroll down, this is all the, okay, women. So Carmella, Alexa Bliss, then Bailey in 2019. So Bailey won, that was when Becky was the champ champ. She had just defended against, she defended successfully, I wanna say, against Lacey, and then she had to defend against Charlotte right after, and Charlotte beat her, but then Bailey cashed in on Charlotte,
00:19:19
Speaker
Then Oscar, remember Oscar got the title. Yeah, that same belt that Becky never lost. Oscar got that, which I still don't understand how Oscar opened up the briefcase and the belt was already in there. How did she not know that when she pulled it down? Like, you know, being king of kayfabe, man. I just, I can't abide that one.
00:19:35
Speaker
But didn't they have the briefcase waiting for her in the ring or did she bring the briefcase to the ring? I was on deployment, so I was just reading recaps, dude. The way I understood it. I can't remember now. I can't remember the presentation, but I can't remember if the briefcase was already down there. So you're thinking maybe she gave up the briefcase for some special ceremony and then whenever she got it again, the bell was in there. That makes more sense. I don't think she carried it down there.
00:19:56
Speaker
Becky already had it and then had her come down and gave her a little speech and then she came down and opened the briefcase and that's when you don't think that she got the briefcase and was like, man, this is a heavy ass contract. Yeah. We had Nicki Ash 2021. That was a total throw away. Liv Morgan 2022 was fun. She cashed in on Rhonda and Liv had been
00:20:13
Speaker
Obviously, we're seeing Liv. She's in her final form now, right? Looking like absolutely one of the biggest stars on the women's roster. She was still so over in 2020, though. Yeah, she was. She was that one we talked about where it was that career-made Carter that just bubbling up. That was an awesome moment. That was really, really fun when she cashed in. EO last year ended up being a pretty meaningful. That was a solid one. They have all been successful. I'd say it's hit or miss on... Meaning...
00:20:35
Speaker
Yeah. How good that aftermath has been. Yeah, but we haven't had one. That could spell doom for Tiffany Stratton because time flies, dude. This is already the eighth Mrs. Money in the Bank that we've had in the first seven of all cashed in successfully. The manager was sitting at about an 80% success rate so far. We'll see how Tiffany does, man. I wouldn't be opposed to seeing her lose this and then come back around WrestleMania time to finally get the belt because I feel like it needs to be a big deal. Her first championship win.
00:21:00
Speaker
Somebody could screw her out of her cash in right like that. That's a totally I mean Naya Naya gets Yeah, something could totally go go sideways with that that relationship ends up helping and Bailey strong Bailey Bailey could overcome a cash-in Yeah easy Bailey's not like, you know sitting duck It's gonna be easy to take that belt from
Bloodline Victory and SummerSlam Setup
00:21:18
Speaker
All right. And our main event of the night was the bloodline, uh, which ended up being solos to Koa, Tomatanga, and Jacob Fatou, the felon. After Jordan told us, there's no chance he's going to pull strings. They acknowledge it on the air too. They said that, you know, Triple H was, was making phone calls up. It makes Jacob Fatou seem even more dangerous. He's really unhinged.
00:21:42
Speaker
So they defeated the team of Cody Rhodes, Kevin Owens, and Randy Orton. Solo Sokola pinning Cody Rhodes, dude. Yeah, it was a fun match. Like, you know, definitely a little bit like house show or TV show-esque when you just have a six-man non-title match main event. But I thought everybody looked pretty good, aside from Tonga Loa somehow botching a low blow. You know, I forgive Damien Priest getting knocked down on a falconero.
00:22:06
Speaker
Yeah, Tomatanga comes in the first time, he punches Kevin Owens in the butthole, and then he goes to do it again, and he accidentally uppercuts Tomatanga in the head. Tomaload just needs to just hang outside and look tough, man. Everything we've seen from him so far, he's found a way to screw it up somehow. He's like the Tamina, dude, of the bloodline, man.
00:22:28
Speaker
Just can you just got to call spade a spade man? Yeah, I feel like I feel like we actually lose some credibility man If we didn't that we didn't call it Tonga Loa for some of this stuff that he's he's remember He botched his arrival he showed up the ref had to basically like He missed his cue to come up front of the ring and pull the ref out and so the ref had to kind of like kick his foot out underneath the bottom rope because yeah, yeah, um
00:22:50
Speaker
All that aside from the point, yeah, Solo gets the pin. It looks like we're on the freaking highway for Solo and Cody at SummerSlam. They've done something like this before. Triple H and Sean, they're real big on kind of booking the hits. If you look at a lot of the storylines they're doing on the main roster and on NXT, you can go back and find some parallels or some inspirations from
00:23:10
Speaker
From their own careers and night summer of 1996 Shawn Michaels first reign as champ in your house international incident the month before SummerSlam Vader pinned Shawn Michaels in a six-man tag match to sit up Shawn and Vader in the main of it at SummerSlam, so I don't see any way Solo ends up winning, right? I just I can't picture him being the guy to end Cody's reign But do we think that this leads to Roman at SummerSlam? I Don't know man
00:23:40
Speaker
I mean, I can't imagine them doing SummerSlam without Roman. I feel like Roman's got to be there, you know, even if it's just like just the beginning, right? Yeah, I could even see them doing something like Cody wins and then like shortly after Roman's music hits and we end with Roman coming in and kind of just looking at Cody, looking at solo and then, you know, the trademark thing comes up and tune into SmackDown Friday night to see what this all means. I don't see some huge angle, but we may see Roman just show up and that could be enough, honestly, man. I think that's all people are just going to be
00:24:10
Speaker
I think people are going to be disappointed if we don't hear that music hit and see Roman come out at the end of SummerSlam.
Review of Money in the Bank Event
00:24:16
Speaker
Overall, I thought Money in the Bank was a fun show. Definitely didn't feel like a major pay-per-view. In years past, they've really tried to present Money in the Bank as one of the... Top pay-per-views. Yeah, up equal with Mania, Survivor Series, SummerSlam, and the Rumble. This felt much closer to the backlashes and the Night of Champions that we've got over the past couple months. Balls of Fire. Great Balls of Fire. Yeah, but I still... Great Balls of Fire was low-key a major show. You go back and look at that card, it's pretty insane. That was back in the era when they were still doing the...
00:24:46
Speaker
The four and a half hour paper views and stuff, man. Great Balls of Fire actually kind of cooked. But this was much more closer to the backlash and the other bits of the clash of the castle that we got in the last few weeks. But I still gave it a thumbs up. How about you? Yeah, I gave it a thumbs up. I was sports entertained, but yeah, like you said, it just...
00:25:03
Speaker
It didn't feel as big as some of the other shows that we've seen as of late. Yeah, I will say I thought NXT Heatwave smoked it man, like no pun intended.
NXT Heatwave vs. Money in the Bank
00:25:11
Speaker
I thought Heatwave was a better show, just top to bottom the matches that we had on there. Kalani Jordan and Soul had an amazing match for that Women's North American Championship.
00:25:21
Speaker
Nathan Fraser and Axiom against chase you to me, that's the best tag team match we've seen 2024. And you know, we're not going to go match by match, but the one thing we definitely got to discuss that crazy, crazy ending. Again, going back to Sean and Triple H kind of going back to their hits, dude, go back and watch backlash 2007. John Cena edge Randy Orton and HBK and then go back and watch this.
00:25:45
Speaker
this fatal four way for the NXT championship to close out Heatwave. They look strikingly similar, but all ego Ethan Page comes over from AEW and within about two months he's champ. Could not believe it. He holds the record now. It's 40 days. So he's, he holds the record for debut to becoming the world champion, which was previously held by Kevin Owens at 60 days. I was going to say, I know Kevin Owens had to be pretty quick to. Yeah, Kevin Owens at 60 days and Ethan Page has now came in as his debut and 40 days later, he's the world champ. So. Both Canadians.
00:26:12
Speaker
both canadians wow must be something to it yeah that was uh i love the ending right and he was great it was awesome i mean i hate seeing trick lose i did but at the same time it's you got to take it down to the nxt scale but as far as nxt goes he's austin in 98 you know austin won his first championship at russell mania 14 he lost it two and a half months later dude austin's first reign wasn't a long reign either he lost it to kane and won it back the next night
00:26:37
Speaker
I wouldn't be surprised to see Trick get this belt back at our next event at Great American Bash. That's going to be over on Sci-Fi channels. You know they're going to be hyping that up big time as a one-off on a different channel. Yeah, and I think we've become, as WWE marks, we've become so accustomed to these just like
00:26:54
Speaker
record-breaking title reigns, and we talked about it before. Not every reign has to be like 600, yeah, 77 days. I like a long reign too, but I'm cool with the little period where you go six months with the belt going back and forth between two or three guys. Keeps it exciting, yeah. Keeps it exciting. You never know. It could happen on a pay-per-view. It could happen on weekly TV. There's just no- Yeah, there's a balance there. Like I said, the long reigns work. I think it works well for long reigns to be the norm, but you got to mix in some short reigns there with it also.
00:27:22
Speaker
Yeah, I don't think trick loses anything up losing this obviously. I mean he knocked out two guys, right? He knocked out Javon Evans knocked out Ethan Page So he still looks strong as hell and was just that that slime ball Sean Spears Grabbed out to his leg to keep him from getting the pin. Yeah, I mean it was all just the conundrum you I I said it wasn't tricks fault and then you you kind of you kind of piled on trick You said well me should have just been throwing tricks everywhere. Yeah, you're knocking people out like crazy You never know what could happen man. You got to be a little bit more in control I thought it you know
00:27:52
Speaker
The good thing about it is that a lot of times in fatal four way matches, it really ends up just being a series of one on one encounters right like guys are here with a big spot roll out of the ring and take a nap for five minutes and they just kind of cycle through right this you truly had a chaotic
00:28:07
Speaker
like fatal four-way finish, right? All four people got into it. Trick, you know, goes to hit the trick shot on the ego, accidentally knocks out Jevon Evans with it, turns around, successfully knocks out Ethan Page, and then as he goes and makes the cover, you know, Sean Spears got his leg, meanwhile Ethan Page just falls down on top of it. Yeah, doesn't even know that he's with the champion. Yeah, wakes up and he's like, it's beautiful, dude. Like, that was just, you know, chef's kiss. Perfect, it was a perfect finish, dude. I thought everybody got over it, because Jevon Evans looked great,
00:28:34
Speaker
Ethan Page is obviously the champ. Trick looks strong as hell. And Sean Spears, you know, he screwed Trick out of the belt. So NXT is just on fire. They had another great, you know, this is Thursday evening as we're recording this. NXT went basically neck to neck with AEW as far as viewership goes again. Like Sean has just done an outstanding job. And as much as I hate to say it, man, like I've really come to appreciate Sean Michaels so much. You know, as a Bret Hart's fan, it makes my stomach turn a little bit, but
00:29:01
Speaker
What he's done for NXT since he took over has been great. And we got to get props to Vince McMahon, dude. That was one of the, you know, during the Twilight era, Vince's career. Think about how much shit he got when they gutted the black and gold era and with the NXT 2.0. I was mad about it. What a smash it seems like, dude. Like they're, they're taking.
00:29:20
Speaker
The funny thing is, man, think about how many free agents have gone over to AEW and seem like they don't matter, dude. I saw somebody add a tweet that perfectly summed it up. They said, NXT is taking people nobody's ever heard of and making them seem like a big deal. And then AEW takes people that everybody's heard of and makes them seem like nobodies, man.
00:29:38
Speaker
It's definitely up for debate. I don't think it's quite that black and white. That's a sweeping generalization. Look how big Ethan Page seems now. It's not wrong. Look what a star Ethan Page looks like, man. Look at Jevon Evans. Nobody had heard the name Jevon Evans three months ago. Now this dude, he's starting to creep up on Trick Williams, man. People love the young OG. He's got charisma through the moon and awesome moves.
00:30:04
Speaker
If you have not been watching NXT, dude, just because you never got over the black and gold going away like that, you got to get past that. NXT has been outstanding the last, really the last year and a half at this point. Agreed. Any final thoughts on Money in the Bank and or Heatwave?
Preview of AEW Dynamite 250
00:30:20
Speaker
No, I did want to get your thoughts on AEW. We got some hot shot booking going on for next week. It is Dynamite 250, which dude, how the hell are we on 250 episodes of Dynamite right now? That's wild. I feel like we're just in a time warp, dude. I still feel like AEW is like, this budding company, you know what I mean? And I'm like, no, we're suing for dances, dude.
00:30:41
Speaker
Yeah, think about how, you know, recently it seems that we were, you know, selling in on that Wednesday night in Norfolk to watch the first episode of Dynamite, you know, seeing Cody and Sammy Guevara one of the first matches. Now we're here on Dynamite 250, man. Like, I just couldn't believe that. Either way, two insane matches for this. We got Okada and Swerve in a non-title match.
00:31:03
Speaker
Which is pretty wild. And then arguably the absolute biggest match you can put on right now, Osprey and MJF are going on a Wednesday night. I just absolutely cannot believe, like there's got to be some.
00:31:15
Speaker
hijinks because there's just no way that this match is going to go off without a hitch on an episode of dynamite. It's just I understand wanting to pop a rating. I know their TV deal is still in limbo, right? Yeah. So I mean, I get they're trying to just like pull out all the stops. But the fact that you would waste an episode of dynamite and I guess no TV time is really wasted. But I mean, the fact that you would blow a match like this on on dynamite, it just seems a little could be the the Goldberg Hollywood Hogan on Nitro of AEW.
00:31:46
Speaker
I don't know. The logical, you know, I don't know. I kind of like this for both sides, man. One business side, I'm like, you know what? Fuck it, dude. Like, if they really are, if because I don't think it's so much AEW, man. As much as AEW, yeah, their ratings are down. They're still the typically the most successful show on Wednesday nights on cable. I think this is more to do with just Warner Brothers Discovery being a mess right now behind the scenes. You know, they're they're movie studios and shambles right now. They almost lost the NBA rights.
00:32:16
Speaker
I think it has more to do with them being a mess than AW, not being a good marketable TV property, but either way, we still haven't heard anything about a new deal. There's a chance that they're gonna be hitting the open market, you know, going to the highest bidder, and if that's the case, you know, you wanna have some solid numbers to go, this should definitely pop a rating, man. If this doesn't pop a rating, I think that's red flags across the board, yeah. This household will definitely be tuned in to see what happens, though. Maybe cutting football practice a little bit short next Wednesday night so we can make it home in time for it, because I think it's actually open and match.
00:32:46
Speaker
But yeah, it's gonna be a while. I still think if you put a gun to my head, I think we end up getting some sort of angle and we either don't get the match or they fight for three or four minutes and we get some sort of schmaz to lead to the big. Yeah, something's gonna happen. Because this feels like it should be like a co-main event for All In and Wembley. Yeah, I 100% agree. And you just can't give up that money, you know what I mean? Like you need that for the buy rate. Yeah. You know what I mean? Definitely. Yeah. All right, let's hit our weekly beverage break.
00:33:30
Speaker
Alright, the beverage break is where we tell you what we're sipping on as we pod each week. I don't know for sure what Sheena is drinking, but I got a feeling this has got a chance to be the most boring beverage break in the history of the show. I am just drinking straight up Miller Lite, the unofficial official beer of the Chick-Foli show. Sheena, what are you sipping on? I'm drinking the
00:33:48
Speaker
the sober equivalent of Miller Lite. I'm drinking some high quality H2O. Okay, we got Bobby Boucher. Is there ice in it or is that water, no ice? It's from the fridge filter, so it's cold. It's in my- Okay, some water, no ice. Legit the most boring possible drink. It's in my hydro flask, so it's nice and cold, but it's, yeah, no ice.
00:34:09
Speaker
All right, we don't really have any significant figure news and we really didn't add anything that cool to the collection this week. So we are going to skip the figure four this week and jump straight into keeping it Tranquilo.
The Tranquility of Audiobooks
00:34:32
Speaker
All right, Keeping it Tranquilo is where we give you guys a recommendation for some outside the ring entertainment. Sheena's going to be taking charge on it this week, speaking about her. She's always had a love for audiobooks, but just recently she kind of switched up her style a little bit. She's got a newfound passion. If you've been following her civilian accounts on Instagram, keeping up with the stories you've seen it. But Sheena, tell us about your overall love for audiobooks and your recent change up that's kind of reinvigorated for you.
00:35:00
Speaker
Well, I just want to say, you know, for keeping it tranquilo, there's nothing better than just like sitting down, chilling and like either reading or listening. It doesn't get more tranquil than that. Yeah, it doesn't get more tranquil than a book, man. So, um, but you know, in my, in my older age, you know, with kids and waking up so early, like if I sit down to like read a physical book, um, man, it's like, you know, four pages in and I'm like, you might as well took a soma.
00:35:23
Speaker
Yeah, exactly. Somebody roofed Sheena. Yeah, so I tend to lean into my audible account quite a bit. And at the beginning of the year, I made a goal for myself to listen to or read, you know, whatever. I think audiobooks are reading, it's just a totally different type of reading, right? So to read more fiction. You're still firing off the same like synapses in your brain and stuff, dude.
00:35:44
Speaker
Yeah, exactly. There's benefits to both. I think there's definitely health and cognitive benefits to both regular physical reading with your eyes and listening. I'm a fan of both, but I've really gotten into the psychological thrillers. I've always loved spooky stuff and true crime podcasts and all that kind of stuff. Even when I was younger, scary books were my genre, but I'm in a couple of psychological thriller groups.
00:36:12
Speaker
I did not know this. There's new, learned information on the air. Well, you know, they always give you the recommendations until you... So you're like a book club. Yeah, I'm in a book club, yeah, and give you the reviews of what they've read and, you know, always offering new suggestions and stuff. So I have been like, you know, elbow deep, just like, you know, absolutely annihilating book after book in the psychological thriller genre. So if you're interested... So let me ask this, not to interrupt, but I just want to know, because I kind of, I mean, I'm like most of you guys, I kind of just follow Sheena's book.
00:36:41
Speaker
You know her her book digestion through her IG story. I really just kind of just her thing As far as like the like the the audiobooks world how big is the narration like a big deal? Like will people seek out books based off of how good or how bad the narration is just like agnostic
00:36:59
Speaker
Oh no, it's definitely not agnostic. There are people out there that are so specific, they'll be asking in the group, I want a book about, they give a very specific, I want a book that's going to scare me and it's about teenagers at a party and it's narrated by a British narrator. That's how- So there's some people that just straight up, they're seeking more the narration over
00:37:21
Speaker
even the book content. Yeah. And I mean, there's like people who like know the names of narrators. You know what I mean? Like, they're like, Oh, it's narrated by so and so. And so like, they will seek out that book, even if it's like, you know, they don't know anything about the book that most of them have, like sound effects and stuff, or they typically all just
00:37:37
Speaker
No, so there's like, so there's basically like an audio book version. Like, you know, if you have a graphic novel, there's an audio version of that. I forget what it's called. There's a there's a specific genre. It's called like live books, or that's gonna have a little bit more production to it. It's got production. It's got like sound effects and things like that in the in the audio. There's like, you know, a lot of the like, I
00:37:56
Speaker
you know, the Akatar Accord of Thorne and Roses series and all of that. Like they have those type of novels like the audio route like the real life novels. Do you prefer somebody with that's using like a ton of inflection and character or do you like something just more
00:38:11
Speaker
It depends on the story. The book that I just read, the guy who was very, he was just kind of like very kind of like stoic and monotone, but the story called for that. I felt like his character was very much like that. But then there's a lot of books that I just, I feel like the inflection and the over-dramatization has to be there for it to be.
00:38:31
Speaker
A terrible narrator can ruin a book, but yeah, it's just so much better for me to listen to audiobooks because I can listen as I'm washing dishes or doing out in the garden. I can take in a lot more books than if I'm just looking for free time to sit down and read a book. I don't give much time to sit down. I can't remember if you mentioned it or not. You recently switched to, or didn't switch, but started making more of an emphasis to listen to fictions as opposed to nonfiction.
00:38:56
Speaker
Yeah, because I mean, I read tons of books on like child development, on nutrition, on farming, homesteading, all those kinds of things, right? Some biographies mixed in there. But like, I feel like there's just a certain part of your brain that is turned on by fiction. I mean, obviously, we watch wrestling, which is a form of fiction in a way, right? Like, and I feel like there's a part of your brain that really just needs
00:39:20
Speaker
like stories like that, right? Like not information, just a story, so.
00:39:27
Speaker
All right, so if anybody is hearing this and getting their appetite whetted, Shane, do you want to give a quick unpaid advertisement and explanation of the Audible service?
Benefits of Audible
00:39:37
Speaker
Because I think that's definitely the best bang for your buck, right, if you get into the audiobooks. Yeah, Audible, you get 30% off of any book that's in the Audible library if you buy the audiobook straight up. So if a book is $19.95, you get it for $13.95 or something like that, right? But you get a credit every month for $14 bucks or something like that.
00:39:56
Speaker
and um you can pick whatever book in the audio library and they have tons of free stuff too so like they have a they switch up the free stuff every month so if you're looking for something like you can download books for free and there's also like if you if you have a library card i don't know how many grown-ups without kids have library cards but if you if your kids have a library card or you have one there's a um an app called libby and depending on what your library has access to you can access free audiobooks through libby and there's a there's a few other apps that are that are like that i used a couple of them in hawaii
00:40:26
Speaker
when we had libraries there, so yeah. But you could totally just listen all you wanted for free off Audible each month. Yeah, I mean, you may not get the exact titles that you want, but yeah, I mean, there's content there for you every month for free, so yeah. Cool. All right, so yeah, hit up Sheena if you have any other questions, if you want to start getting into the audio books, because yeah, that's, like I said, I just noticed her, like I said, it's always been a thing, but I've noticed her kind of a little uptake on her passion for it here recently. Yeah.
00:40:55
Speaker
All right. Do we have listener mail? Of course we do. All right.
How Wrestling Fans are Made
00:41:03
Speaker
Our first question comes in from Johnny JB. When you first met your significant other, did you know he, she was a wrestling fan? Also, how did you tell them you were a wrestling fan?
00:41:13
Speaker
So, I mean, me and Sheena both grew up, you know, prime attitude area years, right? Like, you know, I graduated 2003. So, you know, during the attitude era, like 97 to 2000, I'm kind of like middle school, early years of high school. And at that time for folks that are, you know, way younger or way older, like everybody knew about wrestling. Everybody was at least a casual wrestling fan, right? Everybody knew Stone Cold Undertaker, Mankind, The Rock. It was just kind of assumed, right? Yeah, it wasn't even a thing, dude.
00:41:41
Speaker
And I've always been, you know, I've always been like a low key wrestling historian, dude. I don't think Sheena knew how much into wrestling I was like when we first got together. But I've always kind of talked about wrestling and like even in the years that I wasn't, you know, following the product, I would still, you know, watch. I'd get like some of the wrestling DVDs and like there was a period of time where the WWE documentaries were going on Netflix and we'd throw those on sometimes and I'd get different stuff. So I think you always knew I was pretty
00:42:10
Speaker
You knew I was a pretty hardcore wrestling fan, at least when I was a kid and stuff. Yeah. Even pre-attitude era, I was heat up with the stuff. Yeah. I've always watched it with my dad and stuff when I was a kid and like Seth said, we watched through the attitude era. But then him and I both got back into it and our passion was just like totally reignited when the WWE Network came back out in 2014. It was perfect, dude. You're an adult, you got way more disposable income and the network just...
00:42:35
Speaker
It was the best man. It was literally life changing day, the WWE Network coming out. Because like I said, I got it just to be able to go back and watch all the old stuff, man. The archives. Yeah, it was so cool to me that I would have every WWF, WCW, ECW, pay-per-view right there at my fingertips. And I was sketching enough little glimpses of the new stuff here and there, dude, and just like throwing it on because the events were free that I know they set the hook. And here we are 10 years later. Peak Wyatt family and shield and so everything. Like the first Raw that I watched back, this was the first Raw I watched in 10 years.
00:43:04
Speaker
was when Seth Rollins broke up the shield, man. And this is after, you know, I saw the shield at WrestleMania 30. I saw him win those two matches against Evolution at Extreme Rules. And I think it was Payback was the event. But I still hadn't really gotten to the point where I was going to watch Raw. And then I threw on Raw. I remember I was in San Diego for work. I threw on Raw in my hotel room in San Diego. And I was like, holy shit. I was like, all right, Seth Rollins, this is going to be my guy, dude. And that worked out big time.
00:43:29
Speaker
Yeah, you bet on the right horse. And then the rest is history. Now we have a wrestling podcast together. And we have a little mark for our son. Yeah, our little son Brad is just hardcore into wrestling as anybody, man. It's a lot of fun.
00:43:45
Speaker
Johnny JB also asked, did you watch the OG ECW? If so, who was your favorite? Mine was Taz. So he was a big Taz fan. Were you clocking any ECW? Not when it was originally on. Like, you know, I've watched more ECW since we got back into wrestling than I ever did, you know, back in when it was airing originally.
00:44:02
Speaker
I'll tell you, dude, looking back, I don't think it's aged as well. 12-year-old Seth was obsessed with ECW, man. It was so freaking cool because, dude, it wasn't on TV. It was this thing that you would read about and the bill after wrestling mags. I was aware of it because we had the internet, so I would read about it on wrestling pages. There was this crazy federation on the East Coast where there was blood and barbed wire every match, which that really wasn't the case.
00:44:32
Speaker
I thought it was so cool and my uncle Josh would get tapes man. I guess I don't know how people were getting these just on like back in the tape trading days and stuff because it was before ECW was really on legit pay-per-view. I want to say Wrestlepalooza96 VHS ECW dude me and my friend RC wore that thing out man. It was the action looks so different from anything that was going on and
00:44:54
Speaker
WCW and WWF at the time if you were seeing new moves there were the hardcore matches like it was nuts and again just to kind of point out some of the really good things about ECW dude people think it was just all about the ultra violence it really wasn't dude they you know ECW is where Rey Mysterio got to start Crispin was psychosis people like that you know Dean Malenko dude you were seeing this crazy technical wrestling that was done to a level that you just weren't seeing in the mainstream and I mean to be honest
00:45:21
Speaker
Yeah, a lot of the wrestling now looks like what ECW looked back then, dude. Not the violent stuff, just the actual technical wrestling matches. It was so gritty and so real. Yeah, dude, I loved ECW. I wasn't getting it every single week, but any ECW tapes I could get my hands on, I was devouring back in the day.
00:45:40
Speaker
Awesome. Tony Barker says... Oh, he asked you a favor. My favorite was Sabu. Sabu was my guy. 12-year-old me was convinced that Sabu was gonna break Hulk Hogan and Bret Hart's records for most world championships if he just got a chance, man. So again, looking back, I don't know what I was thinking. I love the look and the whole vibe of the guy, man.
00:45:58
Speaker
Oh, so real quick, not to interrupt listener mail, but I just want to, we totally missed a whole thing that happened on Money in the Bank that I feel like we just need to at least touch on.
John Cena's Retirement Announcement
00:46:09
Speaker
John Cena came out and announced his retirement. Oh yeah. We were going through the Wikipedia results is what we were...
00:46:15
Speaker
Yes, I was just looking on Wikipedia and I totally forgot that John Cena came out and announced his retirement, which we didn't even touch on. I feel like we owe it to ourselves and the people. I'm not even the hugest Cena fan at this point. Even I felt like I was getting a little lump in my throat. As soon as he came out and held up the towel and said, the last time is now, it's just like, holy cow, Cena's really going, man.
00:46:36
Speaker
Say what you want about the guy, dude. All the work he's done with kids and everything, man. He was the face of WWE during a really dark time. I felt like commercially and creatively, he kind of soldiered through it. I'm looking forward to seeing what they do this last year, man. I think it's going to be something akin to what we saw with Sting's last run with AEW. He's booked for like 30 or 40 days. It's basically a whole year. Yeah, 34 days. He's going all the way to December.
00:47:04
Speaker
WWE always has a huge house show the night after Christmas in Madison Square Garden. To me, if they can get the stars to align and make it work, that seems like the perfect place. I think that just needs to be John Cena's last match, his send off, everything. I think that if it's not Peacock, I think that would work really great as a Netflix exclusive event. I could totally see it being presented as that.
00:47:29
Speaker
And yeah, I just think that'd be a great way to send him out, man. He deserves dude. Master square garden in front of everybody. So do you think that John Cena is going to finally get another title where he breaks Ric Flair's record? I hope so, man. I really hope so. I'd love to see it, dude. If you put me on the spot... I thought it was going to happen a couple years ago and then it never happened and then so like I feel like the time is now. You put me on the spot, I say no, it doesn't. But I...
00:47:58
Speaker
I'd love to see it, man. I feel like he deserves it, dude. I'm not a very big Ric Flair fan. If you told me it's either them staying tied or Cena breaking the record, I'd love to see Cena break his record for most money. It's deserved, man. Yeah. It's well deserved. I've always loved Cena, even though sometimes I find him just a little bit
00:48:15
Speaker
corny and a little bit cringe, but he's not for me. He's for the kids, right? So like, yeah, some of the things he does are a little bit cartoonish to me, but I've always, I've always rode with Cena. So, um, you know, ever since we've been back into it. So yeah, I was just like thinking we were like talking about, you said my favorite Sabu and I don't know why I made John Cena up into my head, but, uh, yeah. So we had to touch on that, but back to listener mail, Tony Barker says, I don't have a question this week. I just want to say that I appreciate you guys and the fully fan. This show helps put a smile on my face, even in dark times. And this group is incredible.
00:48:45
Speaker
Thank you so much. Tony, we love you. Tony actually lost his grandmother this week, so I just want to let Tony know that we're thinking about him, the whole Foley fam. We're out there thinking about him, so we're sending you so much love, Tony, and he's a beloved Foley fam member, and we're thinking about you, dude. So, appreciate it. Tony's a real one.
00:49:04
Speaker
Yeah, so we appreciate the message. The Foley family is the best. We say it every week, but it's the truth. Zach Hertzler says, favorite SummerSlam match to go back and rewatch. There's tons of classic SummerSlams, dude. So what are we doing here?
00:49:19
Speaker
We just re-watched SummerSlam 92 recently. I don't know. I'll go one slightly, not one of the top ones that comes up. Go back to SummerSlam 90, my favorite tag team match ever. The Hart Foundation versus Demolition, two out of three falls. You get the three-man version of Demolition, which I love with Axe, Smash, and Crush. Legion of Doom got to run in. It's just a really, really fun match. So I'll go Hart Foundation, Demolition, SummerSlam 90. But SummerSlam is always a fun event. I don't think there's ever been a bad SummerSlam.
00:49:47
Speaker
Yeah, SummerSlam 94 is a classic, Brett Nolan in the steel cage. I think we just talked about, I don't know, before we got on the air, being at SummerSlam in Nashville and seeing Brock freaking tip the ring over with a tractor, dude. Of all the matches Roman and Brock had, that was the best one. Yeah, that was pretty epic. So yeah, what would you say, if you could give the people just five SummerSlam matches to whet their appetite for getting ready for SummerSlam season, what would you say?
00:50:17
Speaker
We'll start, we'll go in chronological order, we'll go old school. So start SummerSlam 88, Ultimate Warrior squashes Honky Tonk Man for the Intercontinental Championship in about 30 seconds. Just watch the, first off, watch the heel heat when Honky Tonk Man comes out. He was supposed to be fighting Brutus the Barber Beefcake, but Beefcake got injured shortly after, which, you know, just another chapter in Brutus Beefcake's just star-crossed career.
00:50:39
Speaker
And you know honky tonk man at the time he's the longest reigning intercontinental champion ever a record that would stand all the way till this past year when Gunther finally broke it the people hate him they're dying to see him just get his honky ass whooped man and You know, he's like, you know, there's nobody in the back
00:50:55
Speaker
that can beat me and Ultimate Warriors music hits and the roof just blows off the place and he kicks the shit out of him. And that was Ultimate Warriors first championship win. So take a look at that one. SummerSlam91, Bret Hart beats Mr. Perfect for the Intercontinental Championship. Bret's first singles title win. Really, really great match. And to make it even better, Kurt Henig went in there with an absolutely brutal back injury. It would be his last match he wrestled for about a year and a half. And you can see him kind of gritting his teeth and getting through it.
00:51:26
Speaker
SummerSlam 95, HBK, Razor Ramon, the second ladder match. That was a really, really good one. In a lot of ways, it was better than the WrestleMania 10 ladder match, but it just, you know, it gets overshadowed just simply because it wasn't the first one. SummerSlam 97, you got Brett and Undertaker. Brett wins his last WWF Championship match. Shawn Michaels is the guest referee.
00:51:47
Speaker
Really, really good match. And lastly, I'll go, I'll fast forward up to 2002 Brock Lesnar versus the rock. We see Brock when his first championship and become at the time, the youngest ever WWF champion. All right. There you have it people. Your top five, uh, based on our, our Seth,
Potential for a Third Major WWE Show
00:52:05
Speaker
our wrestling historian, the his top five summer slams for you to watch to get your appetite ready for this summer. Is that it?
00:52:13
Speaker
We have one more with all the talent WWE has, and this is from Kenny Daniels. With all the talent WWE has, is it time to add a third major show?
00:52:24
Speaker
I don't know. To me, NXT is half ass like a major show already. I think instead of adding a third major show, I'd be happy with having a little bit more bleed over from people that have been on the main roster going back. I feel like that's always interesting. They've been better about that the last couple of years, sending people down for little six, eight, 12 week runs on NXT. It doesn't feel weird. It used to be like an emotion, but now it's not.
00:52:48
Speaker
Yeah, especially if it's the NXT alumni, you know what I mean? Like Becky's run on NXT was great. Did Finn go back to? Yeah, Finn went back a few years ago whenever they first went live on USA, you know, back in 2019. But yeah, that was great. He won the championship again, was the Prince gimmick.
00:53:04
Speaker
Yeah, I would think I would probably lean more heavily on doing that, and I think we might see that. NXT is going to go to the CW, a new network. WWE is all about making sure they're giving their business partners their money's worth, so I think we'll probably see a little bit more of that once they move over to the new network into this year.
00:53:22
Speaker
But I think instead of seeing a full blown third show, I think I'd rather just see them keep, you know, pumping a little bit more talent down to NXT. And I think that's pretty good, man. I mean, it's already three nights of the week, man. Like, I don't think we could do it. They'll be really the only free night that's left for wrestling is Thursday, Thursdays. And even that's not really truly free because Ring of Honor is on Thursdays also, man.
00:53:40
Speaker
Yeah, I think it's too much. I think it's like one of those things where you can like cannibalize yourself, right? Like you stretch yourself too thin, like you're doing really good. Like, you know, you're having major success, things are going well, and then you take that one step too far, and there's the whole franchise comes crashing down. I think AEW had collision was a huge thing, dude. I don't think that gets mentioned enough, this point where they really kind of started like taking a downturn, dude, when they added that Saturday primetime show. Yeah. Because Wednesday seemed like an event.
00:54:06
Speaker
tuning in on Wednesday nights for dynamite. And then you'd have your little appetizer, your little dessert dish on Fridays with rampage. I was a pretty
00:54:18
Speaker
a pretty habitual viewer. Every Wednesday night, watching Dynamite and then watching Rampage on Friday nights, man, back when we were in Virginia, you know, at the peak of AWW. Obviously, viewing habits have changed over the years, but yeah, I think they'd definitely be getting spread a little bit too thin. Mm-hmm. I agree. And that wraps up Listener Mail 4 this evening. All right. Hey, this was a lean, mean episode. We're under one hour. I want to remind you guys to use code Chick Foley to save 10% on all your purchases at Ringside Collectibles. Sheena, hit us with some closing thoughts and we'll get out of here.
00:54:47
Speaker
Have a great weekend and we'll catch your ass down the road.