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NFL Week 4 Preview: Dallas Cowboys vs Green Bay Packers
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In this episode, we dive into our Week 4 NFL preview, focusing on the highly anticipated matchup between the Green Bay Packers and the Dallas Cowboys. We’ll analyze team strengths, key player matchups, and what this game could mean for the season ahead.
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Intro
Packers vs Cowboys Preview
00:00:21
Speaker
Aloha and welcome back to another episode of the Ohana Packers Edition podcast. Today we do our week four opponent preview as the Packers get set to ride into Sunday night football in Jerry World to face the Cowboys.
00:00:35
Speaker
Looking to get back on the winning side of the ledger and head into the bye week three and one. You know, team is licking its wounds from last Sunday's disappointing loss to No, that wasn't a beer. That was just a regular drink. Anybody listening?
00:00:52
Speaker
Like I said, we're past morning stage and we're looking ahead to the next opponent. But You know, the Packers are still in a good spot. I know that, you know, they gave up, you know, half a game on the division by losing, but you lost a non-conference game. All the other teams in your division are, you know, know, they there's three with the same record, but Green Bay has the tiebreaker because we have the head-to-head over Detroit.
00:01:18
Speaker
Our loss is a non-conference and both, obviously, Detroit's won losses to us. Minnesota's is to Atlanta, so they have an NFC loss. And Green Bay is still in the driver's seat. And in order to keep it there, you know, you keep up with one of LaFleur's adages and try to go 1-0 this week.
Injury Reports: Packers and Cowboys
00:01:37
Speaker
Heading in, Packers have a long but kind of not... unexpected injury list so the only dnps today were aaron banks zach tom and javon bullard though it should be noted that bullard was doing exercises with the trainer on the side of practice so he is going through protocol we'll see if he participates that's what that's like stage two isn't it i forget which stage is which at this point but it is like he's doing on-field activities and so it's like a next stage in the progression and it's a matter of how he fares you know how he wakes up tomorrow if he passes the baseline testing and then like that's why you know everyone's like oh like what's his status and stuff i'm like
00:02:22
Speaker
If he misses two days in a row, he's not playing. But until you see two days of practice in a row, you you can't tell. So, know, even if he's just limited on Friday, we've seen guys who only practice, quote unquote, practice one day coming off a concussion and participate in the game.
00:02:38
Speaker
That said, if there's any question, you just sit him out this week. know, you... And not to say that it's talk bad about it, but it's not like they don't have the pieces there that can cover him if he can't go.
00:02:52
Speaker
It's not like the offensive line where we're going to be sitting here. Oh, God, this is going to be like the 12th rotation and just four plays. They've got pieces that they can fit in there that if he can't go.
00:03:05
Speaker
yeah if they want to stick with their big nickel so like a third safety they can bring kitan oladapo in who had a good preseason want to see how he translates that to regular season action and then hobbs is there and hobbs was a full one of the full participants so hobbs love and melton were all full participants and the limiteds were just a a cavalcade of names here so the the two that raise the biggest flags are the fact that belton and walker rasheed walker are limited participants just because you already got two starters who are out with injury and you have one more starter who's limited and another probable starter in belton who's dealing with something but it's good that he participated regardless
00:03:50
Speaker
Carl Brooks, who didn't seem to leave the game at any point, has a foot. Devontae Wyatt has a knee, but looks like he was able to get through it all okay. But, you know, that does bring into question, you know, will a Warren Brinson be up this weekend?
00:04:03
Speaker
And then Kraft continues to add to his collection of reasons to be a limited participant. Kind of figured that'll be the case for him. He's ah ah that kind of, you know, bang your head against the wall, tight end. So he's going to pick up boo-boos along the season.
00:04:17
Speaker
just hope to see that knee dropped off sooner than it's injury, though. Yeah, it's an elbow. So probably, you know, they're at the point where they're listing anything and everything. So you just hope to see that, you know, they don't get to... oh oh Which team was it? Was it the Falcons that just got fined for not disclosing...
00:04:34
Speaker
or properly documenting an injury, something like that. So, you know, this is probably a little snarky with it. And, you know, not great to see Jacob still on there with the ankle and Fitzpatrick being on there with the groin. So we'll see where those guys are going into the week.
00:04:52
Speaker
And then on the Cowboys side, it's a much shorter list, but it's a much more important bunch of guys who are missing. So, their DMPs were Tyler Booker, Trevon Diggs, and CeeDee Lamb. Lamb and Booker are ruled out already.
00:05:07
Speaker
And Diggs, I'm not sure what his status is. you don't know if that's a re-aggravation. He is coming off of ACL ah ah repairs. I don't know if there's a setback there or not.
00:05:18
Speaker
then Deron Bland and Chukwiz Bridges are dealing with foot and injuries, respectively. And that's three cornerbacks listed for the Cowboys who are reeling in their own right, um been just getting smoked the past two weeks um um on defense. So, you know, want to it's a get-right game for Green Bay, but it's setting up that way. And this is one of those where the thought process going into this one is just go get the win. Like, it...
00:05:50
Speaker
I don't have the same trepidation as I have last week where like Cleveland was definitively great on one side of the ball. And, in a way that could screw up your game plan, which did end up happening.
Dak Prescott's Performance
00:06:03
Speaker
I know that Dak is off to a really good start this year. Like he has three interceptions and two of them, like one of them shouldn't have counted because the Giants player definitely did not catch the ball.
00:06:14
Speaker
One of the more wild, unreviewed turnovers on the season. And then the other one is a Rogers 2018 special where it went off of George Pickens hands the pass. So, you Dak is playing pretty well to start this season.
00:06:27
Speaker
They're probably two in one if CD doesn't drop a gazillion passes on opening Thursday is night night football. But...
00:06:36
Speaker
And I mean, if you look at his stat-wise, he's at 90, what was it I just saw? He's at a 90%, no, 71.4% completion rating.
00:06:47
Speaker
So, I mean, really, he's throwing the ball well. He's taking care of the ball as best as he can. It just seems like his pieces aren't doing anything for him.
00:06:59
Speaker
Yeah, they're... It's hard when you're having problems blocking up front. And the one thing is that Javonte Williams is having a strong season so far. Their two main running backs are averaging 5.3 and 6.1 yards per carry. So this will be a good test for the defensive front seven.
00:07:21
Speaker
They still held up their end of the bargain. um saw some leakage late in the game, but... I do think against Cleveland, that was a matter of, you know, fatigue, time of possession piling up.
00:07:31
Speaker
And you don't like to see that in week three already. But I mean, that's kind of what happens when your offense just can't get any traction going. So that's one thing.
00:07:43
Speaker
Knock on wood. Packers offense shouldn't... Even with our shuffled O-line, this Packers offense shouldn't have trouble moving the ball on Dallas.
Dallas Defense Woes
00:07:53
Speaker
There was a stat I saw going around that Dallas is... top three or four edge rushers had a zero pass rush grade combined against the bears O-line. And I know that they're playing in Chicago on that God awful turf, but still like that is an embarrassing effort against a still very bad bears offensive line to
00:08:19
Speaker
a net negative because, you know, 60 is like average on PFFs grading and stuff. And to be a zero is just a different kind of dreadful.
00:08:29
Speaker
shaping up to you know, don't like to throw it it around the term get right game because this isn't like when you play nowhere direction university in college, but the way Dallas is reeling right now, like I said, they're missing their top weapon on offense. George Pickens is like two bad plays away from fighting someone and getting ejected from the next game. And that's why was a fan of Pickens play coming out as a rookie.
00:08:56
Speaker
But that was the one thing about him was he was a hothead. And it it that's where it goes back and makes you wonder what exactly Brenton Cox did to get kicked off both frigging Georgia and Florida when Georgia still kept like George Pickens and guys like that.
00:09:16
Speaker
So nothing against Brenton. He's a really good guy and all that stuff. But it just makes you wonder what happened there that they keep a guy like Pickens But they kick out a guy like Brenton Cox.
00:09:31
Speaker
Yep. So, I mean, you just look at where Dallas stands as a defense, and, yeah, it's going to – It's going to feel like a total opposite for the Packers. You know, like I said, they come from facing the, like, number one rush defense and the number, like, six pass defense, I think, Cleveland was going into our game last week. Oh, man. And you're going against the, you know, terms of rush yard or yards per rush. Dallas is actually doing okay yards per rush-wise. They're ninth, but they are allowing under 110 rush per game.
00:10:08
Speaker
uh which is 17th so you know slightly below average and then it's passing yardage wise they are in opponent yards per pass at 9.8 so basically giving up a first down every time the opponent drops back to throw 288 yards pass yards per game 32nd in the in the league and completion percentage just a shade under 74 percent and they're Their sack percentage is just over 4%, 27th in the league.
00:10:40
Speaker
have three sacks. Yeah. And, like, a bunch of those are, like, getting yeah Jalen Hurts. Kenny Clark, James Houston, and Marshawn Nealon. Yeah, those – like, two of them are getting Jalen Hurts to run into sacks in week one kind of thing. So, I mean – And I know that it's hard to say for the Green Bay line to gel because i know they're going in with a shuffled up O-line again. But this is the week to try and get things rolling. I don't want to say dumb it down, but get your base stuff going. Get your run game going a little bit.
00:11:15
Speaker
Get your pass protection sorted out. That's the thing with Iberflus is he's not a big blitzer. He very much wants to rush four and drop seven. you He'll do fire zones and things like that, but nothing super exotic. He's not a push the issue kind of defensive coordinator.
00:11:35
Speaker
If the O-line can hold its water and get its shit together after last week, they're going to force him out of his blitzing real fast because they're in a tough spot because their guys aren't natural pass rushers.
00:11:48
Speaker
The guys who they've drafted to be aren't ready yet. The rest of the guys aren't. But then their secondary is in shambles right now. and Even like Malik Hooker looks old now. I know he's like...
00:11:59
Speaker
28 or 9 at this point, but he looks old at this point. Like I said, their top three corners are dealing with injury at this point. So it's just a, you know, rough sailing for Dallas on that side of the ball, but it sets up for where, you know, it's a good situation for Green Bay. And like I said, these are the kind of things where you got to just take advantage of your opportunities. And we saw the recently benched Russell Wilson a gazillion yards on this defense. And it's just a matter of doing that. Well, let's be fair. The, the bears handed him a loss last week and not a small one either.
00:13:10
Speaker
and
00:13:11
Speaker
The other teams in the division can't pass you because their conference record is worse, division record is worse. So Just go in, get three and one. And, you know, like McCarthy always used to say, if you're three and one in every quarter of the season, that's 12 wins. And now it's a little coop because of the 17th game. But 12 wins puts you right in position to be, you know, I know there's only one buy in the playoffs, but 12 wins puts you in like on the, at least on the doorstep of being in that. And then if you win any more than that, you're really controlling your own destiny. So, like,
00:13:44
Speaker
I know everyone's sour about it, but if you're three and one, one of those, like, if you told you you'd be three and one at the bye, a lot of fans would be happy with where the team is.
00:13:54
Speaker
And it's such a weird one because it's like, Okay, like, it sucks you lost to the Browns because you had that game and all that kind of stuff. But it's actually the best one to lose if you had to lose one because it's the least consequential game out of, know, conference standings, playoff positioning and all that kind of stuff because it's a non-conference game. So you can't undo it.
00:14:22
Speaker
So all you can do is go and win this game.
00:14:26
Speaker
And you just got to hope that they rebound from it. So that's the big thing to watch for this game. How do they rebound from the loss against the Browns?
00:14:37
Speaker
Do they come out and play flat? Do they come out with some fire in them? You know, how are they going to come out and play? Because, yeah, you should never overlook a team in the NFL because of the any given Sunday. And I know that's an overplayed cliche, but it's true.
00:14:51
Speaker
Any given Sunday, anything can happen. But This should be a relatively easy win, as easy as it can get in the NFL, just because of how beat up the Cowboys are, how uncohesive they are right now.
00:15:11
Speaker
You know, like you keep saying, the defensive backs for the Cowboys are not great at the moment. The ah offense has lost its key playmaker.
00:15:25
Speaker
Yeah, it's just going to depend a lot on how Green Bay rebounds after losing against the Browns. they come out defeated or playing like they've been beat, then we're going to be in for a long night. But if they come out with some fire, with some drive, then it should be it good game for Green Bay.
00:15:47
Speaker
You're muted. Like I said, this is one of those get yourself feeling good going into the bye. You know, it really did take everything going wrong last week to lose that game to Cleveland because you had your chance at the end.
00:16:06
Speaker
And like you play such a bad game and to still have your chance at the end and unfortunately not come up with it. You know, that's sometimes how these things go. And This is why they're paid the big bucks is to bounce back and you make amends for it. So it's one of those things to be excited about as a fan is to see the old adage of what is your team made of. And I'm really excited to see what this team is going to do. And like you noted, you there's going to be ways if you can tell how they're bouncing back and all that kind of stuff.
00:16:37
Speaker
One of the things I'm looking for is
00:16:41
Speaker
How many can they come out and control the line of scrimmage from the jump? I really think that this going to be one of those games where LaFleur comes out and is going to really want to set the tone, get into his...
00:16:54
Speaker
If they win the toss, they take the ball kind of game because, know, set the tone early.
Micah Parsons' Return
00:16:59
Speaker
i know that the defense has been the...
00:17:02
Speaker
I know the defense has been the better unit so far this season, but, you know, take the ball if you win the toss, set the tone and, you know, put the floor, put the pedal to the floor in this game.
00:17:13
Speaker
And we've gone almost 20 minutes and we haven't even mentioned what I know will be NBC's talking point for pretty much the entirety of the game.
00:17:23
Speaker
And that is the Parsons return to Dallas. I mean, it's showing up in our over-unders, you know, I know we're going to have fun with that tonight. But
00:17:34
Speaker
I think the other side of it is like the team, you know, Parsons has become a leader in this clubhouse. you The way he's handled inserting himself into the roster with getting in with the D-line room, being cheerleaders for Rashawn, being Lucas's biggest fan, all that kind of stuff.
00:17:53
Speaker
And it'll be really interesting to see if, you know, I do believe he is saying all the right things this week. You know, they asked him about he was asked about Jerry saying that he's not getting Micah Parsons isn't getting a tribute video and all that kind of stuff. And think Micah took it. You know, he's kind of like, whatever, like no one really cares once the game starts kind of thing. And he's saying all the right stuff right now. And, like, I think he basically said about playing this game is like, once the ball is kicked off, it doesn't really matter who we're playing. We're just trying to win the game.
00:18:26
Speaker
And it's a really good. And didn't he say something about, He's not sure how he's going to feel if he gets a sack on deck and stuff like that.
00:18:39
Speaker
Yeah. They're buddies and stuff. And so he said, you know, I've seen it misquoted already, but, you know, he said, like, it'll be painful and stuff. And, you know, I do think he's going in with the right attitude. just hoping that the team isn't like over-amped for him, which is really weird to say. Usually it's the singular player who's over-amped, but I do think he is legitimately going to treat it like another game.
00:19:06
Speaker
But I also think he's going to have a lot of success because Dallas just, the guys they have on their own line just don't match up well against him. I don't know if he's going to treat it like any other game because, you know, like any other player that comes back to a team that, you know, whether it's free agency, trade, whatever, they always play up a little bit because, you know, hey, I was there. I know what they did. You know, I know this and I know that.
00:19:33
Speaker
But he's not going to come out and say, yeah, I'm going to kill that guy. And I'm because it's not the team. It's the players on the team that he's so he would be mad at. It's the guy that's going to be sitting in the skybox really made himself look like an asshole.
00:19:51
Speaker
throughout the whole ordeal that he's mad at. So while I do think that he's not going to come out there and be a ah ah distraction by any means, I do think he's going to play a little bit of amped up just because of him returning to Dallas for the first time as not a cowboy.
00:20:10
Speaker
So we'll see. think that he's handling the media side of it so far really well. But yeah, it remains to be seen how he's going to do in the game itself.
00:20:20
Speaker
But any other points you wanted to go over before
Packers Roster Moves
00:20:23
Speaker
we go? Well, let's talk about a little bit of the transactions that happened this week just because... I mean, it's not like major, major, major news, but they did release McCole Hardman from the practice squad. Yeah.
00:20:36
Speaker
It's understandable. Give him, you know, obviously he wasn't going to get on the field with the Packers right now. Give him a shot to go somewhere else, even though, you know, all he had to do was get signed by another team since he was on the practice squad.
00:20:50
Speaker
They, uh... Oh, shit. I just lost the guy's name. They signed Jacoby Keeney James. Yeah. Out of UMass. He was with the Lions for a little bit.
00:21:01
Speaker
Yeah. They signed him as a UDFA. Basically, he's a athleticism and build wise. He's a bow melting clone. He's a little bit faster, though, isn't he?
00:21:13
Speaker
Or is it the other way around? i I think Bo is slightly faster, but Jacoby is the slightly better athlete all around. He's a little bit bit more agile and a little more explo... I think he... it's only like... Because Bo was only like yellow in the drills kind of thing. And I think Jacoby is green across all of them. The the only reason he's not a 10 is because he's not very big.
00:21:34
Speaker
Like, that's it. So his highlight film is a lot of fun. I do think I tried to watch him pre-draft, but I must not have made any notes on him. But I remember trying to watch somebody from UMass.
00:21:47
Speaker
Yeah, it's a fun highlight film from last year. And... um um The thing that I take away from it is he had like 100 yards on three catches and a touchdown or two against Georgia, and it wasn't all in blowout time. And on one of them, on the long play he had, he like mosses two guys and keeps his balance after the catch and is the lone man standing and then runs in for a long touchdown. So, you know, it's an impressive play. And then he's got like, I think they played Syracuse or something like that, and he had some production there. So, you know, when you get a guy who's from a smaller school, like a
00:22:20
Speaker
um don't even know what, you know, non-Power 4 school at this point because their conference realignment. But, you know, it's always nice to see those guys perform when they do play one of those Power 4 teams. So like to see that.
00:22:32
Speaker
And then on the other end, so the active roster was at 51 players because they had put Brenton Cox and Jaden Reed on IR without bringing anyone up. So they brought up Banks, Brent Banks.
00:22:47
Speaker
Yeah, to the active roster. At first, I was kind of like, what is that for? Because in my mind, I'm like, he still has two more practice squad elevations.
00:22:59
Speaker
But when you see that Tom is like basically ruled out per like Schefter and Rappaport and Banks didn't practice on Wednesday, you know, they want to have those eight offensive linemen that you can bring up so that you can have like an extra guy active on game day.
00:23:18
Speaker
So, well, let's face it. If, if, uh, Morgan or Belton shit the bed again, they want to be able to throw somebody else in there. And I do think that's part of why they brought Lysita Smith back is like, yeah, he's someone that,
00:23:34
Speaker
How much? I don't know. But they at least are like, okay, we can play that guy at center. And if, you know, Morgan continues to shit the bed, you put, you call up Smith, play him at center and move Jenkins back to left guard kind of thing. And I know that opens a whole nother can of worms about like, well, you, you know, what do you do? You know, why did you sign Aaron Banks and all that kind of stuff? But you know what?
00:23:58
Speaker
You're, you're like you said, you're like one more injury from survival mode on the O-line. So I do think it's good work by Goody to like keep all his bases covered as much as he can with what he's dealing with in terms of O-line injuries.
00:24:14
Speaker
And mean, it's not like those open roster spots are doing anything for you. So you might as well. don't you have to have a, don't you have to have like a 53 man roster for like a certain,
00:24:26
Speaker
Otherwise you get in trouble. Yeah, I think I can't remember if it's a total number or you can't have under for so many like you can't have more than so many open spots for like multiple weeks in a row or some some crap like that. And I still do think that they are just keeping the suit warm for whoever comes off Pup and IR after this game, basically after this game ends.
00:24:49
Speaker
But yeah. you know, until that domino falls, you've got to field enough guys who can play this game and you have enough, like you said, you have to have enough contingency factors, you know, in the event that, you know, Tom probably isn't suiting up. There's a outside chance Aaron Banks suits up, but he probably doesn't start kind of thing. And then, you know, you're like, like you have emergency, like, okay, like, let's just get out of the game kind of players and stuff. So,
00:25:17
Speaker
hope it get to that. will say this. If Tom even suits up, somebody needs to be looking into it because there is – why are they so conservative with every other injury?
00:25:28
Speaker
But now that it's Zach Tom, they're just giving him a pass. Yeah. And my thought on that is i think LeFleur got ahead of himself. I think he – Yeah, but why wouldn't the med team have said something? Because they've been just as conservative.
00:25:44
Speaker
It gets into the whole like, oh, you know, he's cleared and he says he's OK kind of. But I'm not going to get into that too much because like we talked about it on the show last week. We weren't confident in him at all. We wanted him to sit because he didn't sound confident in his ability to get out there and, you know, be athletic in his position, you know, in such a crucial spot.
00:26:07
Speaker
But I think LeFleur, he lost the plot a little. He kind of was just like, oh, I need every protection thing in my pocket and Zach is able to play, so I'm going to start him. And that goes out after one play, but...
00:26:21
Speaker
It is what it is at this point. You just... I am, you know, I was honestly waiting for the other shoe to drop. You know, they elevated Banks on Tuesday. And for the rest of Tuesday and into today, I was just like, oh, God, are they putting Tom on IR kind of thing? And, you know, they... know, LeFleur is adamant that it wasn't an further aggravation or further injury of the existing oblique issue.
00:26:47
Speaker
But, you know... could still turn around on Saturday and be like, yeah, he's going on IR until we're ready for him. So just hate seeing how that situation played out because I do think it was mismanaged and, you know, the floor basically said as much, but, water under the bridge can't do anything about it. So I think the bi-week will tell us a lot.
00:27:10
Speaker
Yeah. If they bring somebody, you know, start bringing them some of these, some offensive linemen to work out during the bi-week, then I think that kind of tells you that maybe Tom is more of a long-term concern than what they originally were stating.
00:27:28
Speaker
So, yeah. And now... I don't remember, so maybe you do. Did Canard play at all against the Browns?
00:27:40
Speaker
He did. He went in when, what's it called? He went in for the three or four plays when ah Walker's face mask broke. Okay.
00:27:51
Speaker
Because I was like, I don't remember seeing him go in, so why is it they keep messing with Morgan and Belton when they – Because, yeah, Belton went to left tackle, and I think Kennard went to right tackle for those four plays. So, yeah.
00:28:07
Speaker
Okay, but yeah, I mean, obviously they've got him. They like him. They gave a sixth-round pick for him, which before the Micah trade, it didn't sound like a lot giving up a sixth-round pick.
00:28:20
Speaker
But now after the Micah trade, it sounds like a little bit more because that's another draft pick that they're without for this next year. So it is kind of a significant move.
00:28:32
Speaker
And there must be something there that like about them. So to to say that goes into what I said about the bye week. If they start bringing in, you know, handful of guys for tryouts that are all offensive tackles or offensive guards or can play both or swing tackles or whatever, that tells you a little bit more about the Zach Tom injury.
00:28:55
Speaker
Yep. But any other thoughts on Dallas or you kind of ready to – No. Yeah. Just same as always. you You hope you go into the game ah ah come out of the game with less injuries than what you went into the game with per se. But just make it a – This needs to be your statement game.
00:29:19
Speaker
I said it last week about the Browns that playing against that defense, that needed to be your statement game. You shit the bed. That's pretty much what your statement is for that week.
00:29:29
Speaker
This needs to be the statement we game. Go out, blow out a bad team, and and into the bye week and relax. Yep. Go into the bye feeling good about yourself and healthy, or as healthy as you can be at this point.
00:29:44
Speaker
So... Yep. It just doesn't take too much diagnostics on this one. You're the better team by far on both sides of the ball.
00:29:54
Speaker
You know, that's the thing that I think a lot of fans overlooked is like, Cleveland is that good on defense to make a lot of teams look bad. And I know what Packers fans are going to do this week. If Detroit goes in and, you know, has their way with Cleveland, to be like, oh my God, like the Packers do suck.
00:30:13
Speaker
Blah. Look what Detroit just did. All that kind of crap. Like don't. But they have just as many problems on their offensive line that the Packers did. Yeah.
00:30:25
Speaker
So. Don't fall for that cheese. All the Packers can control is what they do, and it's time for a bounce back this week. That's the way to look at it.
00:30:36
Speaker
For sure. That's what I'm thinking. So I'm guessing you're ready for some over-under stuff because you're looking like you want to get the hell out of here. so so ah ah Obviously, the first one is going to be Micah returns. So over-under one and a half sacks for Micah this week.
00:30:53
Speaker
I'm going to go over. i i i think Dallas is going to try to do a lot of stuff to stop him, and I just don't think it's going to matter. But I don't think he's going to have like a stupid four sack game kind of thing. I think he's just going to get That's been my thought is he's going to end up with two. One's going to be a full direct sack, and the other one's going to be one of them wonky ones where it could technically be considered a run, QB run, so it shouldn't, but they're going to give it to him anyway type deals because Dak is going to try getting out there, and Mike is going to get him before he actually crosses –
00:31:33
Speaker
line of scrimmage. So yeah, I go over on that one. This one I'm going to keep on here for a while just because eventually this kid is going to get a 100-yard game.
00:31:46
Speaker
I don't care what anybody out there says.
Matthew Golden's Rookie Mistake
00:31:49
Speaker
we should have probably talked a little bit about that catch a little bit more because people are really making a big thing out of it the bigger thing out of it than it should be he even came out and said he misread where the the safety was and had the had he been in better position know where the safety was he'd been in the end zone because he would have played it a little bit different so I just chalk it up to a rookie moment. You know, it's unfortunate.
00:32:20
Speaker
This is another one of those we would have, like, really laughed about it if the Packers had won because it's it's so funny. It's on the All-22 film to watch the Packers sideline because, like, I think it's Malik Heath, JJ Enigbare are, like,
00:32:36
Speaker
yeah like enibar even like turns around and faces like the stands because he's like oh no he had it kind of thing and i i do just think it is a very much like a rookie moment and know get those out now and like yes obviously it would have nice for him to have the 90 what two yard touchdown whatever it would have been i've seen a lot of people you know complain about the throw and stuff and that it wasn't perfect and I'm sorry.
00:33:04
Speaker
Jordan's throwing out of his own end zone and, you know, been hit a bunch of times. I think he's been sacked three times at that point in the game. So he's just like, let me just get a good safe throw out there and made sure that he got it over the, you know, outside of the safety. And yeah, unfortunately, golden just, you know, he thought he was on the sideline and he catches the ball like five yards from the sideline. And like you said, he kind of owned up to it and was like, if I knew better kind of thing. And,
00:33:33
Speaker
i i would have i would have you know done more to stay in bounds and do more with that play and stuff but it is what it is it could have looked like the safety was closing in on it if you've never played football before and i hate to sound like this but if you've never played football before having that helmet on your head skews your lot so you're that's where the whole tunnel vision thing comes from is because you're looking out that friggin face mask and that's all you see yeah so if he got a quick glance of that safety he's like oh crap he's closing in
00:34:09
Speaker
really don't feel like getting blasted, which he comes out and says he didn't really feel like getting blasted because ah ah they had already been roughed up throughout the game. So he just played it the way he was.
00:34:20
Speaker
And that makes sense in my mind. And I know we kind of talked about it after the game, but, you know, he was a little off balance a little bit, so it could have been momentum. And he talked about that a little bit in what I read, but he said, no, it just, the safety looked like he was coming in and that's how I played it.
00:34:38
Speaker
Yeah, I just think it was a rookie moment. And also, too, the other part of it to remember is you he's but but adjusting from the college rules where he's like, I just need one foot down and it's a catch. And you can kind of see it where he's like, he does the triple toe tap on the sideline and it's on the second step where Oh, shit. Like, Like, im I'm not on the sideline. But by that point, he's already, like, letting himself fall out bounds. And it's too late at that point. So, know, on one hand, it's a bummer. On the other, it's like, you still converted a third down. You made a 30-yard gain. You know, it's still an explosive play.
00:35:15
Speaker
And it's not his fault the rest of the drive went to shit after that. So I mean, like yes, obviously you always want the easy, like the bigger play or the touchdown, but at the same time, he made the play, he made the minimum play that had to be made there and it's not his fault the drive stalled and failed out after that. And at that point, I think it's 10-0, so you're kind of like, oh, just get the ball off the goal line and flip field position again and stuff. So the mindset there is a little different. But hopefully learns from it and can translate it moving forward.
00:35:48
Speaker
But I've got the over. I think he's going to- Well, let me state it real quick because we never did state it because I went under a ramble. So- ah Basically, the over-under is Matthew Golden, 35.5 receiving yards. I do think he's going to get the over again.
00:36:04
Speaker
But it's going to depend on how the offense is going. Are they going to feed Josh Jacobs, or are they going to stick with the pass a little bit more?
00:36:15
Speaker
I'm hoping that they continue with the pass and I hope that they just go all, you know, balls to the wall with it. Let Jordan get his rhythm back, you know, all that good stuff. So I'm hoping that, that it's going to go well that way. But I, I want to say he's going to at least hit 70.
00:36:36
Speaker
I do hope that this will be his first hundred yarder,
00:36:41
Speaker
Does he have a touchdown yet this season? No, he doesn't. Okay, so I'm going to say ah least gets his first touchdown of the season, of his career. the next one I got is Josh Jacobs over under 40.5 rushing yards.
00:36:56
Speaker
I'm going to say over just because, like I said, I'm hoping they have a good mix, but I do think that Jacobs is going to break free at some point and gash out a good chunk.
00:37:08
Speaker
I'm going to say he's probably going to end up with like 55.
00:37:12
Speaker
So I was saying 65. So yeah, like, i think yeah yeah they're going to try and establish him. But, you know, we did see Wilson get a few more touches last week. I think they're going to kind of continue that, especially because he is dealing with that ankle issue that, you know, has had him on the injury report the last week and a half so far.
00:37:28
Speaker
So, you know, same thing, you know, get him going, but also get him into the buy so that he can recuperate and, you know, hopefully come off the injury report by the time we're in week six. so don't be afraid to use your other guys. I mean, they started doing that in the Browns game, but it seemed like the first two weeks they weren't using Wilson or Brooks at all.
00:37:48
Speaker
And so what's really been weird this year is that they're not using both Wilson and Brooks in the same game. Weeks one and two, it was all Brooks. Wilson had like one burn the clock carry late in the game and then he's against Detroit.
00:38:02
Speaker
And then against the commanders, he played like five snaps or something like that, not counting the kneel down snaps. So like, and honestly, it was Wilson and Brooks who were the two backs when they did a lot of the two back stuff last year. I know that Brooks and Jacobs got a bunch of snaps too, but I feel like it was more 50-50 when in terms of who the, you know, Brooks was always one of the running backs, but then it was a little more split on who the other running back was between Jacobs and Wilson. and And And I do think he'll get rolling a little better this week. But yeah, I think they are trying to limit his touches because he's dealing with the ankle issue and trying to keep the big picture there.
00:38:40
Speaker
So all right, my next one is McKinney over under half interception. So basically, is he going to get one or is he not going to get one? I'm going to say yes. So go the over on that.
00:38:52
Speaker
It's just going to be the one just because You know, something's going to happen where Parsons or Gary or LVN gets into Dak's face. Dak tries to basically like how McKinney got his one against the Browns.
Interception Speculation: McKinney vs Prescott
00:39:06
Speaker
It's going to be thrown up. He's going to be able to snipe it. He's going to be able to call it good. I'm going to say under because I think it's going to be someone else who does it, whether it's Williams or... that's it, one of the corners, kind of like, I feel like Dak's going to get hit a lot, and there's going to be some flutter balls that are going to be, you know, up for, kind of for grabs for other guys and stuff, think the other place, too, is because, you know, it's, at receiver, it's kind of pick-ins or nothing, think Dak is going to turn to his tight ends more, and I think this is the week where Queer Edge gets one instead, so, yeah,
00:39:47
Speaker
I think it's going to be like the old 500 game that you would play in the backyard with your friends where you throw the ball in the air and you kind of fight for it on the other end. And I think McKinney is going to come out with it. So my last one on the list is just kind of a goofy-ass one because you know it's going to happen.
00:40:05
Speaker
You know it's going to be continuous, but but and I probably could have set the number higher, but i like, no, let's make it a little bit realistic. So over under 10 and a half times they showed Jerry Jones after Micah Parsons makes a play.
00:40:20
Speaker
So I made it specifically that because you know there's going to be specific times that they're going to show Micah on the sidelines next Jerry. And that's what Jeremy's like. Yeah. And I still think it's going be over because I think he's going to – like they're going to ham it up where it's like, you know, it's Collinsworth too. So he's going to do the like – you know, Parsons will probably get like, like we both have him with two sacks. So that's two plays.
00:40:45
Speaker
And then probably going to have like three other tackles. So that's like five to get you just about halfway there. But then he's going to have like seven other pressures where Collins where it's going to be like, it's, he goes, you know, it's Rashawn Gary who gets the sack, but look at what Micah Parsons does. And he draws all the attention and look at Jerry up there. He's wishing he was still playing for him and stuff. But I think they'll get it.
00:41:08
Speaker
I have 15, which is a little absurd. But I do think that because it's Collinsworth, he's going to be a little bit, what's it called? A little bit chivalrous almost, what is the word I'm looking for? just be a little loose with, you know, like kind of like, you know, a home scoring in a a baseball game where it's like, is that an error? Is that a hit? And like the home team is like, that's a hit kind of thing and stuff.
00:41:38
Speaker
I think he's little charitable with it, but, but you definitely know as well, like if, Green Bay is just mowing down Dallas's defense. They're going to have just Jerry in simulcast and be like, he must be thinking, what could I be doing if Micah was still on my team? cutting They're doing that. And there's going to be multiple times Micah is going to be with his hands on his hips on the sideline, and you're going to have the side-by-side images of him and Jerry and You know it's going to happen because it always happens.
00:42:09
Speaker
happens more in primetime games, but it also happens during any other game. But primetime games, they always ham it up. They always put that storyline in there.
00:42:18
Speaker
That is another reason why I think that... It could be proof that the NFL is scripted because they always got to have some kind of storyline going into a game.
00:42:29
Speaker
They can't just let the teams play the game. They have to have a storyline with it. And this is the storyline going into this game. So I'm taking over. Realistically, it's probably going to be 11 or 12 times because, like you said, he's going to get some pressures. He's going to get some tackles.
00:42:48
Speaker
He is going to get a couple sacks. But the amount of times you see him on the screen, easily 50. Easily 50.
00:42:59
Speaker
They might do the, know how normally it's like the quarterback stats are the one that gets left on the screen when um um a certain team is up. They might do the, like, Micah. And they might do, like, Micah, like, pressure stats, sacks, and stuff. And then all the Dallas Cowboys. Like, I wouldn't put it above Collinsworth and his PFF boys to do something like that. So, yeah.
00:43:23
Speaker
Yeah, it's going to be... They're going to make a spectacle a out of it. you Like you said, not just for the scripted part, but that's they picked these games. you This game would have been a spectacle even without the Parsons trade just because of... They had the Netflix special where Jerry talks about how that 2023 playoff game was one of the most painful losses in his ownership of the Cowboys and the Des play and all that kind of stuff. So it was already going to be...
00:43:50
Speaker
prime time you like extravagant no matter who was on what team but especially when you you know they they already threw a match on top of it and then throwing the mica trade in addition to it is like throwing like four cans of kerosene on top of it to boot and stuff so yeah They're going to also think of other side of things. Had the Packers not traded for Micah, Micah still being on the Cowboys.
00:44:15
Speaker
You know how long we would have heard throughout the whole game. it would have been, well, you know, the Packers tried to make a play for him and, you know, just couldn't get anything done with it. So, you know, that it's just going to be that way throughout the whole game.
00:44:28
Speaker
And they're going to talk about how. that I'm playing like Nostradamus here. There is no way in my mind this doesn't happen where they talk about how they're going to compare Micah to Reggie White.
00:44:43
Speaker
They're going to say this is a, you know, the Packers went outside their normal playbook to do this. They're going to talk about all this shit, and then you're going to have the continuous...
00:44:54
Speaker
Jerry Jones, well, you know, he did this. And even feel sorry for Kenny Clark because Kenny Clark's going to be drug in the middle of it too. Yep.
00:45:05
Speaker
Yep. And like the only reason it won't be as agnoseating as it could be is Green Bay is not undefeated. Like if Green Bay was undefeated, then you get the whole like, imagine where this team would be without him. you know, would they still be this good? Like, no, they wouldn't. Blah, blah, blah. And they're already going to have all the like, how much of it is Micah? How much of it is the other guys? And, you know.
00:45:29
Speaker
Although I did find it funny. I read something that Kobe Wooden has already called Kenny Clark about the Jersey Exchange. Which is funny because I swear to God that a a ah week or two ago, they were talking to Rashawn about it. And he was like already kind of noting like, oh, like I'm excited to see him. And, you know, want to trade the jerseys with him and stuff like that. So I know.
00:45:55
Speaker
It's really funny to see who's calling dibs on what and stuff, but go in the game first, And really, we don't have anything my favorite topic, unless you want to do what I was talking about earlier and call out a certain person who likes to think he knows more than others.
00:46:16
Speaker
Nah, it's fine. I mean, like I said, it's a moot point because... whole topic of discussion is moot right now because you left again.
00:46:28
Speaker
was the universe thing. It is also a moot point, so no. no. but ah The only thing I want to do is, it's not necessarily a call out per se, but it kind of miffed me a little bit.
00:46:41
Speaker
Because I'd really like to know what the hell is going But supposedly after LeFleur was asked about Rasheed Walker's comments about Undefeated,
00:46:56
Speaker
And I don't know the full scope of it, but supposedly he was pissed off because of Rasheed Walker talking about undefeated. It's like, why aren't you in your mind supposed to believe you're going to go through the season undefeated?
00:47:12
Speaker
And he didn't say it in a way that was like, we're not... taking people seriously kind of thing and stuff like that. It was more in like a, we have a lot of confidence in how we play and the guys in our locker. You know, it's cocky no matter what, but it's like the...
00:47:31
Speaker
the like, we're talking about ourselves kind, not like we're talking down on everyone else kind of thing and stuff. Well, it's kind of like Jaden Reed being drugged up and saying, we're going win the Super Bowl.
00:47:43
Speaker
You know, put it on that kind of level that it's just your confidence in yourself. Yeah. And I don't like LaFleur taking the easy way out and like just kind of saying like, well, see, that's why we don't do that and all that kind of stuff. Like,
00:48:01
Speaker
I do kind of hate when coaches take that route because especially when it's like the game after someone makes that kind of comment, but it's like,
00:48:08
Speaker
I get it. You know, and I, you know, we did kind of talk about it last week where I'm like, I don't mind the younger guys on the team, like, you know, having big dreams and like having goals to strive for and stuff like that.
00:48:20
Speaker
And, you know, I allowed it like Xavier McKinney and Parsons for like kind of taking it in stride and be like, hey, like, yeah, like they should, you know, you know, Xavier basically said like the vets are here to keep the guys head on straight. But, you know, we, we do have high expectations of ourselves. You know, they kind of like,
00:48:38
Speaker
At the same time, told him to cool it, but also said, no, we know we're a good team kind of thing and stuff.
Team Confidence and Strategy
00:48:43
Speaker
But then, of course, now Xavier is the one saying like, like, we didn't just become shit overnight kind of thing. Like, we're still a good team, you know, like, you know, like last week he was like, pump the brakes. And this week he's like, and pump the brakes again just from the other side of the road. So yeah.
00:49:00
Speaker
But it just makes me wonder, had it been like Micah that said it or Gary that said it or one of those guys that said it, would he still have been this miffed?
00:49:11
Speaker
Or is there ah ah something going on with Rasheed Walker that we have no clue and now every little thing that he does is going to be put under a microscope? Yeah, I mean, the the way I look at it is this, is like, you're talking about a guy who they have made no secret that they're trying to replace at every turn kind of thing, you know.
00:49:31
Speaker
I can have my doubts about the guys on roster that they want to take his place, but I mean... just all the reps that they gave to Morgan this preseason and kind of with like Walker being the one who was like, no, I'm starting week one at left tackle.
00:49:46
Speaker
And like, you know, LeFleur not really being, you know, he think he went out of preseason being like, you know, we've got a lot of things to look at and we're going to like keep things under review. And it was Walker who like the week before us opening week, he was like, I'm starting at left tackle and stuff. So, you know, I,
00:50:05
Speaker
I don't put too much into it. just do think it's like, it's just a very cheap way for LeFleur to be like, I told you guys to pay attention kind of thing. But also like, like you said,
00:50:19
Speaker
I like when my football team is confident and a little cocky because when you're this kind of professional athlete, you have to be a little bit of an asshole to win. And like, of course, of course, the Packers blew it first chance they could, but I didn't have a problem with it. You know, there was so many people who are hot it hindsight. And I hate that crap. Like,
00:50:45
Speaker
If you're so worried about that kind of thing being what brings karmic retribution, means you don't believe in your team. And
00:50:55
Speaker
like I said, had it been somebody else like Jordan Love saying it or Micah Parsons saying it or Rashawn Gary saying it, would the feelings still have been there? Would they have been like, yeah, I love that. Or would they still have said that's bullshit? Yeah.
00:51:11
Speaker
And like I said, like from LeFleur's point of view, I think it's just cheap for him to come out after the game and like, oh, that's why we don't say those things. I'm like, say that before the game. You know, like Walker said it on Thursday, Wednesday or something like that. Like,
00:51:27
Speaker
it was out there in the ether and you wait until after they lose the game to be like, Oh yeah, you see, like, that's why I don't want my guys focusing on that. I want them focusing on one and all. And like, that's the thing too, is like to interrupt you on that one a little bit.
00:51:42
Speaker
When he says we want them to go think one and O, well, what the hell is one and O that's undefeated. yeah That was where I was. That's exactly where I was going is I'm like, like,
00:51:54
Speaker
like I said, the way Walker said he didn't say like, we're just going to roll through everyone. He did say like, we think that with each game, we're better than, you know, we're that good that we should win, you know, each game as it comes to, you know, the way he said it was like,
00:52:09
Speaker
It sounds really weird, but it was like as like respectful of the game as you could say it kind of thing, because it was like a we believe that this team is that talented, that confident, that we're that good that, you know, you put any opponent in front of us and we can win that game. You know, that was like the context of how he said it. And so, yeah, like like I said, if LaFleur made these comments last week, I wouldn't have minded as much because, yeah, it's like, OK, the head coach is like telling his guys to simmer down kind of thing. But I do think it's cheap and like you said, just kind of makes me roll my eyes because i i agree with you that like,
00:52:45
Speaker
The way he said it too is like a like shut up, shut up, Fred kind of thing. Like, you know, like, yeah, like shut up to the little brother annoying cousin kind of thing. Like, I'm like, it's really easy and cheap to do it, you know, on know, Monday morning quarter, literally Monday morning quarterbacking your starting left tackle who, you know, you as a ah coaching staff in front office have made it very clear that you don't intend to bring back next year. But could completely have turned the other way and been like, I'm fine. Start Morgan. I don't care. I'm not going to play for you guys again.
00:53:20
Speaker
could have easily done something like that. Yup. So it is what it is. i i It's not going to be the thing that like, you know, rocks the boat to where people are you unhappy or anything like
Importance of Winning Before Bye Week
00:53:32
Speaker
that. But, you know, like I said, winning cures all that. And that's why I go out to Dallas, get this win and get the vibes back up into the buy. And everyone's singing. And that's why I said it really isn't a full shut the fuck up. You know, what the hell are you doing? It's more like,
00:53:49
Speaker
Why? Yeah. Or the Vince Lombardi, what the hell's going on out here? Not even shouting it, just kind of like saying it under your breath kind of thing more too. But you have any last thoughts on this week's game? to throw back out there that after the game, we will be doing our post game, but it'll be our live episode also turned into our podcast episode.
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00:55:59
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