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Week 8 Game Preview The Return of Rodgers
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Aloha and welcome to another episode of OPE! On this episode we preview the upcoming game between the Steelers and Packers. This is of course the first time Aaron Rodgers has faced off against his former team, we take a look at key matchups, injury reports and what we think the Packers should do to defeat Pittsburgh. Be sure to like and subscribe wherever you get your favorite Podcasts!
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Intro
Game Preview: Packers vs. Steelers
00:00:21
Speaker
Aloha and welcome back to another episode of the Ohana Packers Edition podcast. Today, it's the big one, Iowa Joe. We are previewing week seven. Week eight. Week eight.
00:00:36
Speaker
Because we're four one and one. Had the bye. Yeah, week eight. It's a week eight Sunday night football game. between the Packers and the Pittsburgh Steelers, as Matt LaFleur would like everyone to know.
00:00:49
Speaker
But I'm sure most of the NFL-watching country is calling it the Aaron Rodgers against the Packers game.
00:00:59
Speaker
you know that that's going to be talked about ad nauseum during the broadcast before the broadcast kickoff on Sunday all that stuff it's going to be everywhere and this going to be the only thing a lot of people going to want to talk about uh ahead of the game but hey just more reason why the Packers need to win this one well it's not just the He was Packers great, Hall of Fame quarterback and all that.
Historical Context: Packers' Winless Streak in Pittsburgh
00:01:26
Speaker
But you also add in the fact that the Packers haven't won in Pittsburgh since 1970. You also have to add in the fact that Rodgers has beat 31 of 32 teams. So the Packers are the last team that he's got to... So there are of storylines going on. I know people are calling revenge game and all that stuff, but...
00:01:46
Speaker
If it's a revenge game, it's more his end than anything because I think it was him that was a little bit more naysaying when he left than it was the organization.
00:01:59
Speaker
mean, obviously, we don't know what went on behind the scenes, but it sounds like he was more an issue than the Packers as a whole were.
00:02:10
Speaker
So, you know, like I said, there's a lot of shit going into this one.
Rodgers vs. Favre: Different Departures
00:02:17
Speaker
I have to be truthful. I don't have the same feel on it as when Favre came back with the Vikings.
00:02:25
Speaker
Like I said, I don't think there's as many hard feelings as there were with that one. So it's not like he's straight coming back.
00:02:35
Speaker
Because Favre kept saying he wanted to go to a team so he could play the Packers. Rodgers just wanted to go to a team to play. And it wasn't that he wanted to get revenge on the Packers for anything, whereas Favre was. So like I said, I don't have the same feeling for this one as I did when Favre first came back with the Vikings.
00:02:56
Speaker
Yeah, I totally agree with you. think that the sentiment is kind of, like you said, it's way different. Whereas Favre really held on to the they forced me out the door.
00:03:08
Speaker
think Aaron, I do think he's being coy and doing the whole like he's not going to be the one to stir anything up before the game and all. And, you know, if he's going to have his aha moment, it'll be after they've won. If they if Pittsburgh wins and then he can kind of be like, well, see, I'm still the
Rodgers' Reflective Comments on Leaving Packers
00:03:27
Speaker
guy kind of thing. You know, he'll kind of hindsight 2028. But.
00:03:32
Speaker
You know, he's come out and done the whole, like, hey, like, you know, he got about as close to saying the grass isn't always greener kind of thing and stuff. Like, that's kind of how I took some of his comments to be. And, you know, he...
00:03:48
Speaker
Didn't quite go so far as to take ownership for his part of it. But, you know, he did say, like, cooler heads didn't prevail. And, like, there's been enough time to say, like, maybe it was best for both sides. You know, he's kind of playing it that way. And I do appreciate that he's taking it that way.
00:04:06
Speaker
Because I think he knows that, like, I think Aaron's at the point where he's like, he's too old to play the, like, disrespectful. card kind of thing and all that stuff at least ahead of the game at least to the media yeah and it helps that he didn't go to a rival team you know it's not like he's on the lions he's on the bears or he's on the vikings or god forbid he's on the 49ers or something and you know we're we're talking at it a different light so and and you know i know a lot of the packers have said the players have come out and said that you know they'll be happy to see him and shit like that
00:04:42
Speaker
I kind of mentioned in our group chat that I think a lot of the casuals are going to take a comment out of context and really rip Keyshawn Nixon on it because he said that when he first signed with the Packers, he wasn't happy to be there and he didn't like being there and stuff like that. But Aaron really kind of pushed him and turned things around for him. So And LaFleur was – you know, again, go back to something that I've said a lot of times.
00:05:14
Speaker
All you're going to get from LaFleur is coach speak anyway. So he's going to play the political battle.
Packers and Rodgers Maintain Cordial Relations
00:05:19
Speaker
He's got to do all that stuff. So he's not going to come out say, man, I'm glad we got rid of that asshole. He can go back and live in his fucking darkness retreat for all I care.
00:05:28
Speaker
He's not going to say something like that. But, you know, it looks like both sides are being cordial. do agree. You wonder how much he's going to do on field. that might show, ha, ha, ha, Packers, you suck. You should have kept me. Are we going to see a return of the belt and celebration and shit like that?
00:05:48
Speaker
Oh, if he scores, he definitely is doing it. There's no beats about it and stuff.
00:05:55
Speaker
I'm really curious to see how he is during this game, like if it's a competitive one or something. But like said, my sentiment is I'd love to put that pouty face that we've gotten so used to seeing when a game isn't going right.
00:06:08
Speaker
I would love to be the team that puts that look on his face. Like said, time is going to heal everything. He's going to come back. He's going to get his number retired. His name is going to go up on the facade and stuff like that.
00:06:22
Speaker
We're not quite there yet. We're much closer than I thought we'd be at this point. Like I said, I do think what has helped from a personal standpoint, what's helped me is he's really slowed his roll on... talking you know between you know putting things between the lines about the packers and how the ship was run and things like that i think he saw the other side of the other side and realized like oh like
00:06:52
Speaker
Like, maybe I should be careful about who I think is kind of dumb and stuff and all. And, like, maybe he's not wrong, but maybe some other people are dumber kind thing. And that's just where I'm going to leave that. And we can extend that conversation depending on how the game goes on Sunday. But it's going to be a big test for the
Packers' Offensive Strategies vs. Steelers Defense
00:07:11
Speaker
Packers. Like, you know, outside of the Rodgersfication of it all, this is going to be an interesting meeting of, like,
00:07:21
Speaker
styles in terms of like the packers offense against this pittsburgh defense which overall is like 19th and epa so not a very good unit they're a very like boomer bust like they're gonna get sacks get turnovers or they're gonna give up a lot of points and you saw that you know you've seen that all season like you know they get what is it like two or three turnovers and a bunch of sacks against the jets but give up 32 points to an offense that really hasn't done diddly-poo since.
00:07:53
Speaker
You give up... Really, you only give up 24 to the Seahawks because... your Hawkeye had one of the bone brain special teams incidents, which just, I think that was a take the cartridge out, blow in the contactor and put it back in because I was like, a Ferentz coach kid had that kind of brain fart. I was like, there was a rift in the universe on that one. To be fair on him, and I think we've had this conversation before because I'm,
00:08:21
Speaker
I think I remember the play. It was like a kickoff that bounced up over his head. And I don't think he's ever taken kickoffs before. Right, yeah. So I don't, at least as far as I remember at Iowa, unless it was like his freshman or sophomore. Right, right, right.
00:08:39
Speaker
Taking kickoffs. And then if I remember the play right, He just barely grazed his helmet, so I don't think he fully thought that he had got hit by the ball.
00:08:51
Speaker
And I think, too, what threw him off is, like you said, he might have returned like a kick in college. But in college, it doesn't matter where the ball bounces. If it touches the end zone, it's dead kind of thing.
00:09:04
Speaker
Whereas the new NFL rule is like, if it bounces in the field of play, you have to get it and down it kind of thing. Like, that's part of the rules. And it's one of those where I know everyone's like, oh, my God. But it's just the whole, like...
00:09:20
Speaker
That's a rookie in his second game, like you said, doing something he really hasn't done in a new rule set that the whole league is still trying to figure out and all. Even at this point, you know.
00:09:32
Speaker
Oh, go for it. So his freshman year, he took 13 of them. And his sophomore year, he took two of them. There you go. So it's been a bit. They play, what, 12 games in a season or 10 games in a season?
00:09:44
Speaker
That averages out to, like, maybe one a game or something like that? Yeah. But... like this is what i was saying is like as far as the like new kickoff stuff goes i'm still not sure how to like equate what is a good return because you know before it was like it was so easy because it was like get to the 20. that's a get past the 20 is a good return and then it was get past the 25 because they changed the touchback rule now it's like people are like oh uh savi on and bo melton had a good return day and i'm like i'll take your word for it because i don't know what good is anymore it's like do you have to get past the 30 do you have to get past the 35 but i think it's so like if the ball bounces and the ball could be down at the 20 if you get past the 20 it's good but if you take one that would have been a 35 yard line touchback you have to get past so like the rules make it so convoluted it's so like
00:10:42
Speaker
Wait, so which one is good? I'm at the point where I'm like, a kick return for a touchdown is good. Everything else, I'm like, whatever. Let me make it easy for you, Kiwano.
00:10:53
Speaker
Any positive yardage by this kickoff return unit is a plus. Any negative yards is a minus. So just go into Do like I do. Go into it with that thought process.
00:11:06
Speaker
And they'll have success every time as long as there's no negative plays on them. Yep, so that's where we are with that.
Packers' Defensive Challenges Against Steelers
00:11:14
Speaker
So like I said, on the defensive the Steelers are the pin out of the grenade and toss it up in the air and you don't know which play which way it's going to fall and land and then on offense where you know where it is is what has hurt the packers it's stopping like quarterbacks would get the ball out quick to receivers and while you know dk isn't dk isn't jamar chase he is in that similar kind of thing where he can take a two-yard pass and turn it into a 60-yard touchdown like he's done that a couple times this season
00:11:46
Speaker
and LeFleur alluded to it today in his presser where he basically said like I forget who asked him if it was Huber or Domovsky but somebody asked him like can you scheme anything up on him and he's like I mean the dude's been in the league like 20 21 years no like you you don't you don't there's pretty much nothing he hasn't seen at this point so
00:12:15
Speaker
It's going to be one where the defense has to be on its A game. You can't have the coverage busts that have plagued them for the past couple of weeks. No loosey-goosey zone handoffs or anything like that. It's got to be a well-oiled machine and a tightly run ship in this one because...
00:12:33
Speaker
you leave any air uh an inch of opening rogers is gonna find it like his you know his legs are kind of shot at this point he seemed like flacco like i was saying in the two games he played he don't want to get hit he's gonna do anything and everything to avoid taking a hit especially if it's his own lineman jumping on his back and what's it called
00:12:57
Speaker
and i i only saw it because bakiari reposted it and it's like and he was on the the tundra podcast with kuhn and was like that was one of the funniest but dumbest things i've ever seen in a football game yeah because he tweeted that it gets funnier the more you watch it yeah it does and my thing is is I understand the issue because obviously he doesn't want to get tackled by anybody.
00:13:27
Speaker
But, you know, when he was younger, he would have went with it. Yeah. But it is just the he's in year 21, not one anymore. So, yeah. Or I guess it depends on who it was. If it would have been Bakhtiari who had done it, they'd been still laying on the ground laughing.
00:13:45
Speaker
Bakhtiari said he would have never done it. He wouldn't have done it as a rookie. He definitely wouldn't have done it now. Well, the guy didn't do it on purpose. I think to take one from Zaktom, he blacked out in the moment.
00:14:00
Speaker
Well, it was more like he hit the turf monster. And just the momentum of a big body took them both over. just bowling pinned him. But...
Key Players to Watch: Aaron Jones and the Offensive Line
00:14:11
Speaker
You know, I expect this one to kind of be a barn burner shootout because Pittsburgh's not, you know, this isn't the Pittsburgh defense of the 2000s or the 2010s where they were just snuffing the life out of the run game and putting the clamps down in coverage.
00:14:29
Speaker
This defense can be had and it's The big thing, the big issue for the Packers is how is this Green Bay O-line going to play?
00:14:39
Speaker
Are you going to be... are they going to shore up their deficiencies of the past few weeks and be able to block this front because not only do you have tj watt over zach tom which is a concern but you also have nick herbig coming off the other edge alex highsmith and you know rasheed walker's had a rough couple of weeks especially since he's been dealing with that quad injury so he's gonna have to be on his toe both of those tackles are gonna be have to be on their game And this is, for the whole season, if there's going to be a game where the run game needs to take off, this is the one. And we saw a Bengals team that couldn't run on a dead cat run on this Pittsburgh defense last week. And this is the moment for this Green Bay O-line and for Jacobs to take command of a game and really just put it to an opponent.
00:15:33
Speaker
This defense kind of, in a way, reminds me of a little bit of what we just dealt with with the Cardinals. They've got some talent at corner. They've got some talent up front.
00:15:46
Speaker
Now, I was going to say that because they've got a little bit of the mixture of old and young. But now that I think about it, I'm thinking it's going to be more probably closer to
00:16:00
Speaker
maybe Washington's with more of a pass rush. I can see that. Yeah. Because they've got some names. And the reason I'm saying that is because when you look up and down through Pittsburgh's defense, it's the Madden names. The names that you want to go out when you're playing Madden and you're constantly trading for Herbig, Watt, Benton,
00:16:27
Speaker
Jalen Ramsey, Cameron Hayward, Alex Highsmith, Patrick Queen, Darius Slay. think he's heard of me, Joey Porter Jr.
00:16:39
Speaker
or is he no uh porter jr just came back and that's what it was he was hurt and Ramsey had to play a lot of outside corner before and stuff so Ramsey's like their nickel back now and Porter Jr and Slayer their outside corner their perimeter corners so like you said a lot of name power yeah yeah name power and You know, they are get theirs. Like you said, it's just how are the Packers offense going be able to handle that?
00:17:10
Speaker
They're to get what they're going to get, but it's time for you to maybe do the dink and dunk and shit like that. Yeah. you know, on the Packers side, you know, they're dealing with a bunch of – I still don't know how real a bunch of these
Injury Concerns: Impact on Game Play
00:17:25
Speaker
injuries are. So you've got, let's see, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine. Nine guys with limited participation designations. So Banks groin, Belton ankle, Hobbs knee, Jacobs calf, McKinney ankle knee.
00:17:43
Speaker
Not great. I do think they're still being just over-reporting though. Zach Tom, Now they're putting a back for Zach. That's not ideal. What's it called?
00:17:55
Speaker
Christian was a limited participant. And Evan Williams with the back and Devontae Wyatt with the knee. So really hope you can get Wyatt back, even if it's for super limited, like 10 snaps or whatever.
00:18:09
Speaker
Those can be a really interior pressure is what gets these older quarterbacks like Rodgers. And if you can get 10 good pass rush snaps out of Wyatt this weekend, that's an absolute win for you.
00:18:21
Speaker
Basically, I've been making the joke that the Packers are getting to the point of the season where they're going start listing even like pro shop worker injuries. And, you know, Jim from the pro shop has a strained wrist or Kelly. With a migraine from answering too many Aaron Rodgers questions.
00:18:42
Speaker
Yeah, so
00:18:45
Speaker
I'm with you. I don't know how many of these are just being... overly cautious and not wanting to get in trouble with the league if they don't list them or if they're legit.
00:18:56
Speaker
Now, the couple, and I know you're going to get into this, but the couple that I'm a little bit more concerned about would be obviously any of your offensive linemen, but Brandon McManus is still out.
00:19:12
Speaker
And he still did not practice. Has there been any talk with what's going on with him? So they said that, so I know that we've never gotten this kind of insight into the kicking schedule, but usually his kicking days are Wednesday and Friday.
00:19:27
Speaker
But almost all the beat reporters said that the plan is for him to kick. Well, we're recording on Wednesday. So when you're listening to this, hopefully Thursday, he's supposed to kick at Thursday's practice.
00:19:40
Speaker
That's the report. Personally, think he's going to be out again this week because while you want because. acrishore i think is what i'm just going to call it heinz i've known it as heinz my whole life uh or its whole existence yeah yeah so it's one of the hardest places to kick because of the whole like they've i've seen that graphic so many times of how especially on the open end of the stadium it faces the mouths of the three rivers that that meet outside of pit or in pittsburgh and so kicking in that stadium is a different kind of a hell hole
00:20:17
Speaker
And so I can see the want for a veteran kicker. But the turf at that field has been especially bad. We're talking Soldier Field bad. Usually, it's in a tier separated from Soldier Field. But it was to the point that when the Steelers played the Browns two weeks ago, both teams submitted issue notices with the turf conditions. So even the home team was like, this sucked. coming off of game against arizona where arizona's field looked like crap from the opening guys were slipping and sliding all day you know they they show the the picture of when haversick went out to go tie the game and then they're calling the tie and you know
Kicker Situation and Field Conditions
00:20:59
Speaker
you the picture shows him looking back at the sideline there are so many divots and kicked up turf all over the place around him and so i can see this being one where
00:21:11
Speaker
i have no idea how like kicking you know winding up full speed to kick a field goal affects your leg muscles and stuff it's the quad on his kicking leg and i can just see where they're like you know what haversick is doing well enough that let's give the kids some rope let's make sure mcmanis is fully healthy Honestly, this is one I want to see Haversick kick in because if he shows that he can hit some field goals in this stadium, I know it's not supposed to be a bad weather game. And that's what everyone's like, oh, like the bad weather game. How is he going to handle it?
00:21:50
Speaker
If he can kick in this stadium, that... opens the doors for some really interesting conversations in my book because as much as everyone's like oh you have to see how haversick kicks in the bad weather let's not forget that mcmanus missed the field goal too in the playoff game last year and kickers old kickers don't kick in the cold very well like Your muscles ache. He's already got aching muscles.
00:22:18
Speaker
The ball starts to feel like a brick when you go up to kick it. And I don't think the advent of the new kicker ball, the K-balls, are going to change a lot of that come December time for the Packers.
00:22:30
Speaker
if you know haversick could go out there and have one of those oh that's a you know basically a rookie kicker in a bad kicking stadium but if he if he handles it and one thing that a couple other podcasters have noted is he's not like sneaking these ones in he's been pretty much dead down the center and i know that that was one of the things you like with carlson that was one of your like uh-oh this is like that thing was like a wayward horse like it would be going left it'd be going right if the last one went right the next one was going way left like that was always your thing his have been almost all dead down the center i think his last pat last week was the only one where it kind of slid right after it went through but it's because he's one of those guys that on the pat he kicks from the left hash through kind of thing and stuff so his his ball is gonna naturally fade through there so
00:23:23
Speaker
You know, I know a lot of people are like kind of starting to hand ring over it to me. The way I look at it is. Heversick. he acclimates well in this you have a couple choices you can tell brandon your quads up you're going on ir or he's already been paid his guaranteed money off of his deal and because he's a he's over a 10-year veteran he's not subject to the waiver system if he's released so you can have different conversations with brandon and be like hey i know we just gave you the three-year extension but
00:24:02
Speaker
I don't think the Packers wanted him to be the kicker in three years. Like, that's just my thing. That's a three years to find the next guy kind of thing. That's how I read it in my book. And maybe circumstances forced evolution in this sense. And, you know, I'm not going to make the sweeping declarations off of two games. But...
00:24:24
Speaker
the arrow's pointing pretty far up for lucas at this point so i was gonna say i'm not overly i still cringe anytime i see him go out there because right you wonder if when's the house of cards coming down right is he out kicking his coverage you know is he uh performing way above what he is and he's going to come crashing down Kind of like the Corey Borjorkas thing when he was punting for the Packers. great, great, and then all of sudden it just disappeared.
00:24:59
Speaker
Yeah, the air went out of the balloon. But I was looking at the weather. It doesn't look like it's – according to AccuWeather, it's supposed to be 44, and the wind is 6 miles per hour with 14 miles per hour gusts and only 1% rain chance. So it should be pretty – fairly good for them over there and that is pittsburgh i made sure i put in picks pittsburgh yeah so i like i said i i the sicko in me wants to see him get another chance because this is the kind of like everyone's kind of like oh you need a kicker and when are you gonna find one
00:25:41
Speaker
You might have dumb lucked your way into a second one. And the only way you're going to find out is if you give him the opportunities. And like I said, I don't know which way they're going to go.
00:25:54
Speaker
I do think they're going to ride it out as long as they can to where like... it's i don't think they're moving one moving haversick until mcmanus is like totally off the injury report that's my read on it and you think with this there's a possibility they could carry two kickers on sunday i think there's a chance especially because so you know you look at the injury report what's it called?
00:26:24
Speaker
LaFleur has already stated that it's unlikely that, Lucas make, uh, Van Ness makes it back for this week. We have no update for the second week in a row on Duntavian Wicks.
00:26:34
Speaker
Unlike last week where he practiced on Wednesday, he did not practice, uh, today on Wednesday. So we have no clue where he's at in terms of his cover. So you might have two guys down already at this point.
00:26:46
Speaker
And so you just need to find, basically just need to find three more guys. And so Devante might be one if he can't go.
00:26:56
Speaker
If he can go, then you're looking at some combination of like Kamal Haddon. So that's an easy one. Kamal Haddon is one. So that's three. And then two more is like Ben Sims and... maybe belton if he's not ready kind of thing or which or donovan like belton or donovan jennings whichever one like whichever one's not like if belton's healthy he's up if he's not healthy jennings you're up kind of thing and stuff so like they're gonna they've got
00:27:27
Speaker
even okay even if they activate Watson and they need a spot there are guys on this roster who don't need to be who don't need to be up and then you get into the like maybe you cut a Kamal had in to bring Watson up and then it's like maybe Malik sits this week kind of thing and like you know on one hand Malik's been solid trooper. He's made some plays for the team this season, been his usual ass kicker as a run blocker.
00:27:58
Speaker
But hey, if that forces LaFleur to, you know, the Wicks injury and stuff, actually, no, they wouldn't have. No, scratch that. They wouldn't have Heat sit even if Watson is up because in this scenario where Wicks is out, they're not going in without, you know,
00:28:16
Speaker
Because I don't think they view Savion as a full receiver yet. So they're like, we have five plus Savion. That's how they want to go into each
Player Injury Updates and Speculations
00:28:24
Speaker
game. That's kind of the way that I think of it in terms of the way they're operating.
00:28:29
Speaker
So until they consider Savion a fifth receiver, I don't see them keeping out... keith if wicks is down and watson is up so but they're gonna have ways to find a fifth guy to sit to keep both kickers up i don't think that's gonna be a problem it gets a little wonder if it's a possibility just because uh you know if haversick does regress somehow during the steelers game you know bring mcmanus in and let him take over and see what he does or even the other way if mcmanus is out the starting and the quad starts cramping on him then you have haversek that can come in and and take over honestly know this would like make a lot of people cringe but i was like if they're both up i'm making mcmanus kick the first kickoff
00:29:18
Speaker
Because it's like, obviously, coverage team, go make the tackle. But that's the most exertion he's going to put on his body. And it's like, that's how you're going to find out if he's really ready. He can say all he wants. He's good to go. I'm ready, blah, blah, blah, all that kind of stuff.
00:29:36
Speaker
But he could go kick off and take two steps and be like, it's seized. Especially because it's going to be 44 degrees and stuff like that. you're a kicker you you can like you're not going to ride the bike because you need the elasticity in your leg and all that kind of stuff so it's like you got to stay warm but you also like can't do the things other guys do to stay warm and stuff so it's like yeah you know this isn't like the m the this isn't like major league baseball where it's like go back to the clubhouse and stay warm in the clubhouse kind of thing and stuff you can't do that so just throw a heating pad on it like they did
00:30:10
Speaker
Yeah. Or like, who was the Seattle punter that they were making fun of when the Seahawks played the Packers in 2007? They're like, he's wearing the electric underwear.
00:30:22
Speaker
Was that Ryan? No, Ryan was still with the Packers at that point because they had just found Ryan that year. It was, I can't remember who it was. It was some old punter. But I vividly remember.
00:30:35
Speaker
Rich Eisen making joke after joke about the heated underwear in that game. But suffice it to say, they're going to figure it out. I think the most likely outcome is that he gives it a go in pregame warmups again, and they just inactivate him again kind of thing. Oh, I'm not saying that they're going to. I just wonder if this could be a week that they try it.
00:30:57
Speaker
Yeah. Where I will agree with you is this, especially if Watson isn't back this week, this might be the best last week to do it. Because once you start to bring Watson back, the number crunch gets a little more crunchy and you have a little less flexibility in terms of who's – A healthy – and that's the thing is like if Wyatt's back, you're going to have all the D linemen up because you're not going to act – especially because you have no Lucas.
00:31:24
Speaker
You have no Van Ness. So that's one of your like ends who would come inside on the cheetah package. So that option's out. And then you need 70 snaps and you rotate your guys as often as you do – And you're only going to get 10, maybe 12 to 15 tops out Wyatt unless the game is just like a blowout in either direction kind of thing. And then you're kind of like, oh, just go get conditioning in kind of thing.
00:31:49
Speaker
So. yeah i i think the only way why it plays like 20 snaps is if green bay is just smoking the the stealers and they're like okay you don't gotta worry about the run just go chase rogers like as many snaps as you can get big guy kind of thing so but that all that to say that i expect both brinson and stackhouse to be up Yeah, mean, if any of them is going to sit, it would be probably Stackhouse more than Brinson at this point. Yeah.
00:32:19
Speaker
But, yeah, I think so.
00:32:23
Speaker
But, you know, it's going to be an interesting game. You know, here we are talking about kickers, as Rich Eisen would say. Punters and kickers are people too. But focusing back in on this Pittsburgh defense, like I said, they rank fifth in opponent. So the good for them is they're fifth in opponent red scoring.
00:32:44
Speaker
but they're 19th in opponents points per game so like they hold you if you get down to the red zone but they'll give up a big play to give you a touchdown so that's how you read that one they are sixth in sack percentage only 14th in interception uh rate but then they're 31st in passes per game allowed uh 31st in pass yards per game allowed 22nd in pass yards per pass opponent yards per pass allowed 18th in completion percentage and then in the run game they're 20th in yards per carry 19th in rushes per game and 17th in rush yards per game so they're giving just under the ground and just under in the air so
00:33:30
Speaker
Like I said, you put all these pretty numbers out, it all comes back to can the Packers O-line do enough in both phases of the game? Can you wear out this front in the run game?
00:33:44
Speaker
And can you pass protect well enough when you have your opportunities to take your shot plays? And in between those, you alluded to it earlier, the Packers need to do their own job getting back to the quick pass game, get the ball out, not have love looking downfield and having no check down
Strategic Game Adjustments and Adaptability
00:34:01
Speaker
options. Just get some drives going. Try to possess the ball on your side of the offense because that's the other thing is like Rodgers wants the ball out so quick.
00:34:13
Speaker
You know, it's like the old like Manning defense where it's like take the ball first, possess it for eight minutes, score. And then hopefully, you know, he's been sitting for so long, especially because it's a night game.
00:34:24
Speaker
You know, they'll have they'll literally be cold at that point. So hopefully there's no playing malfunctions this time. Well, just take the Greyhound at this point. Don't even chance any of that crap already. But I want to throw another stat out there that I find kind of interesting.
00:34:40
Speaker
And this is on pro football reference. And this is something LaFleur needs to really pay attention to if I'm reading this right. Their defense is allowing 64.7% of down conversions.
00:34:55
Speaker
So it gets to the point where you're at like fourth and two, fourth and fourth and three even, I would consider more going for it depending on how deep you into whichever territory.
00:35:09
Speaker
Obviously, if you're on your own 10-yard line, maybe not try going for it. But if you're sitting at the 50 and you're fourth and two, if they're giving up almost 65% of fourth down conversions i would consider going for it more often than not Yep.
00:35:29
Speaker
So the other angle is, yeah, just take care of the football. And that's on two sides. Jordan's got to make good decisions.
00:35:39
Speaker
I guess three. Jordan's got to make good decisions. LeFleur's got to call a game that's going to match what Pittsburgh wants to do to you. And like I said, this O-line can't let him get mollywhopped. Like, it's not a good sign that Love was, you know, dealing with pressure against a Cardinals defensive front that had it's kind of the same it has more names than it does have truly like proven players not i don't want to say proven but like in their prime disruptor havoc players at this point of their careers kind of thing you know like josh sweat is a nice player one that i wanted in free agency you know before would have ever known expected or believed parsons to be a reality
00:36:22
Speaker
And that's the thing, too, is like, Calais Campbell did all sorts of unspeakable things to Jordan Morgan last week. This defensive line...
00:36:31
Speaker
don't know what that was. This defensive line is going to I don't know what that was. This defensive line is going try and put the hurt on this interior offensive line. Cam Hayward is going to bring every trick in the book in a similar way that Calais Campbell did on Jordan Morgan.
00:36:49
Speaker
And then Keanu Benton and Derek Harmon are two guys who can just collapse the pocket with the best of them. And see a lot of people lauding Morgan for shoring things up and stuff.
00:37:03
Speaker
You look at a lot of the play and just go check out Mike Wall's breakdown of film study from the game. There's a lot of plays where Morgan's getting his lunch handed to him and thrown on his back kind of thing. Even some of his better blocks are like he's beat and he kind of throws a guy down. Like legally, he does kind of like a snatch technique. And, you know, some people are like, oh, like good presence of mind. But I'm like, he's not supposed to be giving four yards off the line of scrimmage to make that move. Like you need to be doing that a step into the play kind of thing and stuff. So, you know, I guess the mental side of it is better with Morgan in there. But...
00:37:43
Speaker
don't know. Like, I don't like that he's getting manhandled almost at will. But, you know, hopefully a new week is a new leaf turned over and he's learned from his mistakes and, you know, can make some technique improvements. But that'll be the thing that I'm keeping an eye on is can the Packers win up front against this Pittsburgh defense?
00:38:03
Speaker
If they can, if this is a game where you can get Jacobs in the five yards per carry range and you can even get Emmanuel Wilson popping off some runs, Shoot.
00:38:14
Speaker
I'm sorry, Jordan. I don't care if you throw the ball only 10 times on Sunday. If you can just grind this Pittsburgh defense into submission, do it that way. I don't care. Like I said... I don't care about style points, whatever, the spread.
00:38:28
Speaker
just want the Packers to win this weekend. I need this win like oxygen. So LeFleur, like you said, we've alluded to it. LeFleur has got to be on his A game, and he's got to be willing to junk his week-long scheme. Yeah, his script. Because that was one of the things he said about the Bengals game is like,
00:38:47
Speaker
We came in expecting single high and all this kind of stuff, and they came out playing two-man under, and it took us a while. And I'm kind of like, okay, it shouldn't take you a whole half to adjust to that. And the other side of that coin is like, how much of the adjustments are Trey Hendrickson being old and having a back injury kind of thing? So you worry about that side of it.
Rodgers' Playing Style and Packers Defense
00:39:09
Speaker
And like I said, this O-line, you hope that another week is another week healthier for Zach Tom, another week healthier for Aaron Banks, and another week of continuity, familiarity playing together.
00:39:22
Speaker
The person who's benefited most from it is definitely Elton Jenkins. He looks so much more at ease in the middle now.
00:39:31
Speaker
shoot. Like, you know, doing the, like, who's blocking the nose tackle? Who's blocking nose tackle? Oh, shoot, that's me kind of thing. Like, I do think there was a bunch of that for him because his play has really settled in. You haven't heard his name called as much anymore the past couple weeks. So I'm really just hoping that more continuity helps out this offense.
00:39:52
Speaker
Defensively, as we alluded to, Rodgers is like third in the NFL in rate of getting the ball out, you know, from snap to throw. And the two guys quicker than him are Mahomes, which will probably normalize because he's starting to get weapons back. You know, he was doing that because no Rasheed Rice, no... no uh xavier worthy so it's like he's throwing to the corpse of travis kelsey and a bunch of other uh no names and then the other guy is dylan gabriel who's got all of three starts under his belt and he's doing it because he just lacks the arm strength and prowess to make throws down the field as an nfl quarterback so it's like
00:40:35
Speaker
And then it's Aaron Rodgers. So, you know, Aaron is just thinking the game at this point. You know, we saw him uncork a couple really nice passes. His Hail Mary at the end of the game last week is like the longest row tracked by stat tracker or whatever service and stuff. So, you know, he's still got the arm, but he...
00:40:58
Speaker
doesn't want to get hit and you know it's he's not gonna run at this point of his career he's gonna if he does he's gonna make it like two yards and slide because he can't move as well as he used to right outside right out of bounds yep so I like this is a hard one because you love to be able to get pressure with your front four so that you can put as many guys in coverage. You can buzz Quay and Edge underneath these quick outside routes because as we know, being Packers fans, the middle of the field doesn't exist to Rodgers. Like he he still has his rules that, you know, he's I used to joke that he's Batman, but in the bad way, you know, as the Joker says in Dark Knight, like,
00:41:43
Speaker
you with your rules, you can't hurt me. And until proven otherwise, that's how you've got to approach this game is that everything's going to be outside the hash marks. Most of it's going to be outside the numbers. He's going to try and outthink you in the game. And this is one where You've got to be the hammer in this one and be the aggressor in coverage and bring the heat. And this is going to be potentially a big Micah Parsons game because while it's nice how Rashawn collapses the pocket, it's nice what Wooden and Brooks put in some really nice tape last week. Brinson has flashed a few times.
00:42:25
Speaker
Guys like Parsons, Edge, or Quay who can teleport into the backfield. And if you can get Devontae with some juice in his legs, those four guys are the ones who can win you this game from a pressure standpoint. You get that quick pressure. And this is where it's good that Parsons rushes off of the front side of a right-handed quarterback is because he's in your face and then Quay and Edge blitz up the middle. Devontae comes from the interior pass rush. So that's how you get to a guy like Rodgers is you, mean, that's how you always get the elite quarterbacks. You get that interior pressure. You make them unsettled in the pocket.
00:43:02
Speaker
But especially at his advanced age, not wanting any sort of contact, You just got to get pressure in his face as fast as you can. And Rodgers has never been the best screen pass thrower. It's the weirdest thing. I think it's because he tries to be too precise with the throw.
00:43:21
Speaker
But you start getting pressure in his face and he'll start yanking a couple of them. And we've seen it in the past. And like I said, the goal is to put that pouty face on him as early as you can in the game.
Special Teams and Field Goal Range Considerations
00:43:36
Speaker
like it's one of the things that i could never excuse or justify but like there was always a point where he would kind of just phone it in and be like well there's always another game kind of thing and stuff and especially at 41 it's of like i know this game means a lot to him but if the offense can go up like 14 zip 14 3 and you start really putting pressure on him it's cold, you know, it's 44, I don't know if there's any potential wind chill.
00:44:04
Speaker
You can make him potentially, you know, not quit, but like, I might let go of this thing a little bit early or throw it a little wide because, you know, I'm not about that life anymore kind thing and stuff. So...
00:44:19
Speaker
the one thing to know is Chris Boswell is still one of the best kickers in the NFL. I mean, the Steelers won week one because he just booted a 60 yarder granted in the Meadowlands, but he continues to be one of the best kickers because half his games are in Pittsburgh and he just knows how to read the wind in the field in that stadium so well. So, basically if Pittsburgh crosses midfield, they're in field goal range for Boswell. So,
00:44:48
Speaker
this is a bounce back game for Halfley. And I know the elephant in the room is Ellis Hobbs, or not Ellis Hobbs, Rog Hobbs. I'm just dating myself calling as Nate Hobbs. And know to the consternation of a lot of Packers fans, they're not going to just turn to Carrington Valentine or call up Micah Robinson or anything like that.
00:45:09
Speaker
I do think, I don't know if justified is too strong of a word, but I think what the Packers approach is, is that Hobbs got knee surgery at the opening of training camp.
00:45:23
Speaker
So he missed preseason, missed all of that training camp work. And they're looking at it like, okay, he is like in the ramp up right before the season section.
00:45:36
Speaker
And it's not great. And I do wish he had a tighter leash or a quicker hook. But their thinking is, we're willing to sacrifice some plays here and now so that he's up to snuff and full when we get into the meat of this NFC portion of our schedule.
00:45:57
Speaker
And I totally agree with either side of the art. Well, I won't say I totally agree with the like he needs to play side of it. I do think that if he's just actively not got it, you've got to go in a different direction and give your team a chance to win the game because the name of the game is winning.
00:46:16
Speaker
But I will know the name of the game is football.
00:46:22
Speaker
So I understand what the team is doing. do think there is some value in, like, he's not going to get... He's at the point he's not going to get any more conditioned or in game shape without playing in the game.
00:46:33
Speaker
And at the same time... I do agree with the fans who are like, you still got to try to win. It's the whole, why don't you get up and then let him get his conditioning in while you're salting away a game, that kind of thing and stuff. And I know that the intensity isn't the same and all.
00:46:53
Speaker
But...
Cornerback Performance and Playing Time Decisions
00:46:55
Speaker
I do hope that this is a week where if he shows early he doesn't have it, they're more willing to make some rotations. Especially because...
00:47:06
Speaker
outside of DK Metcalf, this receiving room isn't anything to write home about. I know Calvin Austin is supposedly coming back. He's a little Junebug. He's like 5'6".
00:47:17
Speaker
And I know that it gives Rodgers some Cobb, Ty Irvin, you know, memory, trips down memory lane kind of thing.
00:47:28
Speaker
That's not a guy who you should be allowing to beat you. Same with Roman Wilson at this point of his career, who barely played because of hamstring issues last year. Their passing offense is pretty much centered around DK Metcalf, Pat Friermuth, and Jalen Warren.
00:47:47
Speaker
Yeah. And those are the guys you need to be able to stop. This is one, honestly, know Halfley is a zone guy. know the field kind of would call for more zone and stuff.
00:48:02
Speaker
I kind of want to see him play a little more man this week or at least more tight man match concepts because and like bracket DK and pay some attention to the tight ends and stuff.
00:48:15
Speaker
And just like I said, you know how Rodgers wants to function. Buzz Williams or McKinney into the robber zone to kind of like make him realize his worst fears in terms of like throwing over the middle of the field late.
00:48:31
Speaker
But just like
00:48:34
Speaker
play to his dislikes and really try to like bring out his worst habits by because the the the places the Packers have their playmakers are the areas where Rogers likes to avoid but also has had some of his best success in the recent years like that throw he whipped he ripped to Pat Fryer the two touchdowns are on like post routes that he rips to the middle of the field You have either Williams or McKinney buzzing to the robber position or Quay or Edge dropping to a deep hook.
00:49:08
Speaker
You kind of make him look elsewhere. And then, like, everyone's like, oh, these corners suck. So it gives Rodgers even more reason to look on outside routes. And I'd just be squatting on everything that breaks outside this game. And, yeah.
00:49:22
Speaker
Just let your safeties save you if DK goes on a double move kind of thing. That's the approach that I would have in this game. Anything that's sticking out to you for this one, though? I just want to throw out there that all the ones that are talking about that they signed Hobbs to be a nickel, so move him to nickel.
00:49:39
Speaker
That's not so easy to do considering how well Javon Bullard has been playing this year. So if you move him to nickel, then you made a hole on the outside – what do you do with Bollard after that? And I know some people, well, you make a competition. This isn't the time of season to be making a competition out of anything.
00:49:58
Speaker
You want your best 11 guys out on the field. So then what? You're going to sit Hobbs. Well, then you've got to play either Carrington Valentine or Bow Mountain or bring up Micah Robinson.
00:50:10
Speaker
So right now it's pretty much you've just got to ride with Hobbs unless – I know there's rumors out there that the Packers are kind of targeting the trade market.
00:50:24
Speaker
I don't know how well that's going to go for them. I really don't know. don't know who would be available that could help them right away.
00:50:36
Speaker
saw that there's a possibility that the Jets are listening on Michael Carter
00:50:45
Speaker
And even that, he's a nickel. He's more of a nickel type. So it's like, yeah. So and then like Miami is supposed to be in quote unquote fire sales. So, I mean, I suppose you could try to bring Rizul in, but really how much does Rizul have?
00:51:02
Speaker
I know like people are like, oh, he's playing the best out of, you know, he's one of the best defenders. But I'm like, yeah, Miami's a sad sack of potatoes right now. So like that's a low bar to clear.
00:51:13
Speaker
mean, if Halfley and if Halfley signs off on it, why not? Like the asking price for Rizzul at this point of his career on a one year deal can't be much more than a ham sandwich. Like, you know, you send the conditional seventh round pick two years from now kind of thing. And like,
00:51:32
Speaker
it's like that's it that's the take it or leave it kind of thing yeah i like i said i i think if they go if they're gonna find a corner it's gonna be a street free agent and it's too late this week like you're you're rolling with what you got at this point because you needed to bring whether it was via trade or be a street agent that person needed to be here for today wednesday's practice like it's too late for that so i know who they need to go get just because of the name storm duck
00:52:02
Speaker
another former dolphin so they're gonna roll with what they got like i said i we can talk talk till we're blue in the face i do think there is some value in like and it's not a justify the signing they have a at least another year for that but We've seen what Hobbs can be when he's at his best, and I just don't think he's right physically yet. I think it's partly conditioning, partly – you know, like the back shoulder throw he gives up to Harrison Jr., that's a feel like – you know, like he's in position until he's not on that play, and it is one of those like –
00:52:43
Speaker
I mean, how many one-on-one goal balls can you cover when you're recovering from Arthur's? And that's the thing is like, when you get a knee scope, you can't run, you can't do footwork drills. You can't do any of those things. So it's like, he was off his feet, you know, I guess you can do pool work, but it's like, you're not running and you're not, you know, you can do the steps, but you're not like cutting on grass or turf kind of thing. So it's, it's kind of a moot point and stuff. So,
00:53:11
Speaker
Like I said, they're at the point where he can only get better by playing. Like, he can only get his timing, get his feel. hope he can only get better. Right, yeah. I should say, that's the only way you're going to find out.
00:53:25
Speaker
Like, you're not going to find out by just sitting him on the bench and, like, you know, in two weeks you turn him over and it's like, oh, he's done. Like, let's put him back in the game kind of thing. Yeah, like, they've got to get it figured out. But like I said...
Rotational Defense Strategies Against Rodgers
00:53:40
Speaker
This division race is getting really interesting, and you've got to just keep stacking wins. If nothing else, just a rotation like they have been doing for a while. Keep Rodgers guessing.
00:53:54
Speaker
If he knows he's got a weak target out there, he's going to target it. He's going to go for that weak spot. All right, we're about out an hour, so let's move on to our – I think we've rambled on this one. You got anything else you want to throw out there? Nope, nope.
00:54:12
Speaker
Okay, I do have some over-unders here, so. Kind simple, really, know, Micah Parsons over-under one and a half sacks.
00:54:22
Speaker
Obviously, he had the best game of his career against the Cardinals. Yeah. You hope that's just a sign of things to come. Maybe he could have another career best against the Steelers.
00:54:37
Speaker
Because as far as I know, they still don't have a great offensive line. The right tackle, Fatanu, is a prospect I really liked. Honestly, I wanted him to be our pick last year.
00:54:48
Speaker
and Pittsburgh took him one pick ahead of ours. So damn it, Dad. But, you know, he's basically a rookie. I don't know if he was on IR necessarily last year, but he pretty much missed all of the rookie season with injury.
00:55:02
Speaker
Pretty similar to Morgan, honestly. And then Broderick Jones, the left tackle, has... OK, like with how quick Rodgers is getting rid of the ball, he's still averaging like three pressures allowed a game or something like that, which is just one of the wildest stats you could possibly have in the NFL is like your quarterback is getting rid of it faster than all but two players. And you still give up a handful of pressures every game, which is not good.
00:55:29
Speaker
The big one for the Steelers and for the point that we were talking about, you know, interior pressure is the name game. Their center, Zach Frazier, who has been an absolute diamond in the rough stud from he's a sophomore, second year player this season.
00:55:44
Speaker
He popped up with a calf injury that the Pittsburgh beat seemed to be a little bit caught off guard on. So, you know, we'll see. It's it's so early in the week and, you know, he could be a full participant by Friday. But.
00:55:56
Speaker
It's one where the beat seemed to be pretty surprised because they didn't think he was injured during the game. And obviously, Pittsburgh had like the Monday unofficial practice that, you know, they don't have to put out an injury report because it's not an official practice.
00:56:11
Speaker
So that'd be a big one. Suffice it to say, I'm going to continue with my trend from last week, and I'm going to pick the under as a reverse jinx. I know some will complain that you can't call it a reverse jinx if you're saying it's a reverse jinx, but yes, I am going to call it a reverse jinx.
00:56:29
Speaker
We can do whatever the hell we want. I'm going to go over. I'm going to say he gets two this week. You know, I don't... You know, Rogers never was the fastest quarterback in the world, but he had the ability to get out and about.
00:56:44
Speaker
But obviously he's up there in age where he's not moving as well as he can. Yes, he can get out the ball quickly, I think you can also rattle him a little bit. So if he's getting little bit hit, you're going to get yours once a while. So, yeah, I'm going to go over.
00:57:02
Speaker
Next one Josh Jacobs over under 50 and a half rushing yards.
Player Performance Expectations: Focus on Josh Jacobs
00:57:07
Speaker
I've got go ahead. I'll go for it. I'm going to go over and the only the only concern I have is the lingering injury. But I think he's going to get it because I think this rush defense is that bad.
00:57:23
Speaker
I'm not saying they're not bad. But I wonder if it's going to end up being one of them rotational deals where he's going to bump Wilson and Brooks once in a while just to get them touches and to not overexert Jacobs.
00:57:41
Speaker
I got it set at 50 and a half.
00:57:43
Speaker
I will take the over, but I'm not...
00:57:47
Speaker
I want say it's going to end up being like 65 to 70 just because I think he's going to – LaFleur is going to, like I said, mix in Wilson and Brooks.
00:57:58
Speaker
And then he's going to do some end-around shit and stuff like that. So I think that will hinder in – Uh, so my next one, I got golden over under 30 and a half receiving yards.
00:58:12
Speaker
The reason I got it set so low is because for some reason he disappeared in the second half of the Cardinals game. And I don't, I don't see him on the injury report.
00:58:22
Speaker
So I can't say that it was an injury, but it's still kind of confusing as why he just all of a sudden disappeared and wasn't getting targets and wasn't getting touches.
00:58:35
Speaker
Uh, He had a big donut in his game. He had the three catches on the opening drive, and then he had that catch to set up Jacob's first touchdown. Yeah.
00:58:46
Speaker
Yeah. So I'm going to take the over just because it's wishful thinking. I'm really hoping that he can finally have his breakout game. I'd probably say it'd be about 55 yards. I'm hoping it'll be a touchdown with it.
00:59:00
Speaker
So I've got kind of – go ahead. Oh, no, and I've got the over great minds think alike. I've got 50. So I've got a couple of more.
00:59:11
Speaker
This one's more of a yes or no, and the other one's just kind of a goofy one. So the yes or no is does Watson play?
00:59:21
Speaker
I got yes, and that was – before uh he came out and said he's his aim is to play this week i'm still i don't know i'm still up in the air about it because even if he doesn't play doesn't he have to be activated monday matter what yeah but i'm not concerned because like you know people are like oh what does it mean the The practice window is to allow a guy to ramp up without taking up a roster spot kind of thing.
00:59:53
Speaker
Yeah. So... I'm not at all concerned. Even if he's not ready and is going to be a scratch kind thing, they're going to activate him because if you don't, he's lost to IR for the rest of the season kind of thing and stuff. Well, yeah, that's what I was more meaning. Not that I'm worried about an issue with Watson, but it was more that even if he doesn't play Sunday, they still have to activate him by Monday. I'm to go the safe spot. I'm going to say no.
01:00:20
Speaker
And I'm going to say that they're going to wait until the last minute to have to activate him and then get him ready for the game following. What is that? And I can totally see it because, you know, what kind of honestly came true is that, you know, we were talking about that Arizona field.
01:00:43
Speaker
cost it kind of cost well shucks why am uh it kind cost tanya in his career and it was pretty brutal on sunday as well so and like i said this pittsburgh field hasn't been great either and yeah it does make you wonder do they just wait till you're in the the home confines of lambo on uh november 2nd so i could see it and as much as thought Watson looks great for a guy so fast off of off of uh the the knee surgery the the injury and surgery he had I totally understand why the team would be like yeah he looks great he's moving great we're still gonna keep to the nine month window and stuff so and that shouldn't perturb anyone like
01:01:32
Speaker
This is the thing with Watson is like the theory of Watson is absolutely excellent for this offense. That said, they have not had him for either of the playoff runs that the team has made while he's been Packer.
01:01:48
Speaker
Last year, he tragically blown his knee out in week 17 week 18 against Bears. And then he there but he was still dogged by the hamstring injury that he he like aggravated in the Kansas City game like the back third of that season and
01:02:07
Speaker
as much as I'm saying he'll be back, he'll be back, there's also a part of me that's like, yeah, but for how long until the next thing happens? And I hate talking about players like that. You're already seeing people like writing, totally writing off Marshawn Lloyd for similar reasons and stuff. And Lloyd needs to go to whatever doctor or clinic that Watson was at last year to fix his hamstrings.
01:02:28
Speaker
Lloyd needed to be there last off season, but yeah,
01:02:33
Speaker
it is one of those where it makes you wonder is Watson on a pitch count the whole time he's back no matter what kind of thing. And like, it would be pretty because, you know, it's ACL repair and you're never fully back until like two years after and all that kind of stuff. But, you know, we'll see. And I'm hopeful. I'm in a hopeful mood kind of thing.
01:02:52
Speaker
And to kind of go back to something else that you said, you mentioned the Tanya and or Tunyon one in Arizona. I didn't remember this until somebody mentioned it on one of the social medias.
01:03:04
Speaker
This is the same field that they lost Jordy Nelson on for the year. Yep. So, you know, but I just think that they're going to be conservative. Anybody who paid attention kept saying that the earliest he was going to be back was like Halloween.
01:03:22
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So this just fits that narrative right there. And I could just see them waiting until the last minute on Monday to activate him for the next game. Yeah.
01:03:34
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Yeah. Like, I trust that they're not going to activate him just to activate him so he can say he beat the timeline kind of thing and stuff. If he's active, it's because he's, like, ready to go. And ready to go is, like, he's also out there for, like, 10, 15 plays.
01:03:50
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And you just hope that, like, if he gets three targets, I don't care – Obviously, it'd be great if he catches one of them, but I just care that two of them are bombs. Because it's like, you just get him out there, and it's the like, Christian, you run. Jordan, you throw it as far as you fucking can. And if you catch it, great kind of thing. If not, it falls incomplete and stuff. Or just be a decoy for Golden.
01:04:15
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Yeah. And at worst, you put the fear of God in the Pittsburgh defense, and it changes how they defend you and all that kind of stuff. So... Alright, so I got one goofy one and just because it's the Pittsburgh team and because there's a certain player on the Steelers that people still can't seem to get over.
01:04:40
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So this isn't an in-game one. So we don't even have to keep track on this. Because I know what they're to talk about in-game. So it's not even a fair comparison.
01:04:49
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But how many times Packers social media, the fans,
01:04:57
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what are we going to see more of? Rodgers revenge game or TJ Watt could have been a Packer?
01:05:07
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Hmm. Because I've already seen both of them.
01:05:11
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I think the Rodgers one, just because it is the new one, but you know that if like TJ Watt, forget gets a sec, if he just sneezes on Jordan, oh, he should be a Packer.
01:05:24
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It's going to be there and stuff. It's the dumbest, lowest hanging fruit, but you know it's just there. And yeah. I think it's going to be that one because I don't think, like I said, when we first started talking or recording,
01:05:39
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I said there's not the same feel of Rodgers against the Packers as it was Favre against the Packers. So I have a feeling that more social media stuff is going to be talking about TJ Watt because what's going to happen is Nate Hobbs is going to get burnt or Nixon's going to have something happen or whatever.
01:06:04
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And the Kitty or Kevin, Jesus, I can't even say his name anymore. Kevin King's name is going to be brought up.
01:06:12
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And that's going to open up a whole can of worms on Yeah, I'm done with that series, too.
01:06:23
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Oh, boy. Like you said, we're pushing to the hour, 10-minute mark. You got anything else for this game? For the game, no.
01:06:34
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But I do want to say this because I do keep track of analytics on the pod and all that stuff. We have a couple of listeners from Germany.
01:06:45
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And I think that's amazing. So if you're listening to this and you're from Germany, reach out to us. And if we can find out who you are, maybe we can get like Kawano to sing Dunkashane for you.
01:06:59
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my God.
01:07:02
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And we'll give him some like Lederhosen and he can sing Dunkashane and his best Wayne Newton impression. But, you know, really, I'm going sound like Wayne Newton getting eaten by the Dilophosaurus.
01:07:19
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But I mean, just reading some of the analytics, you know, there's like we've had one listen in France and Spain, and we've got a steady following over in Ireland. And like I said, now we're picking up in Germany. So reach out.
01:07:39
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That's amazing.
01:07:41
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Most excellent. And on that note, we're going to call it a night. Joe's got to get this thing posted for us. Please follow us. Check out the website, ohanapackers.org.
01:07:51
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01:08:22
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01:08:42
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01:08:57
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The Packers look to have a statement win um on the road. to remain atop the nfc north to remain atop the nfc conference and to put one more pelt on their wall as opposed to the guy who will be trying to do the same to his wall uh i would for iowa joe i'm mike who say go pack go and a low