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Episode 42 - 1934 World Series- Highest Scoring Series yet?
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Boys are back covering a high scoring World Series between the Cardinals and the Tigers.
New Hall of Famers emerge in their first fall classic and we discuss if all deserve to be enshrined in Cooperstown.
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Introduction and Episode Overview
00:00:03
Speaker
As Mel Kiper once said, i love you, Shadur. I love you, Shadur. I love you, Shadur. I love you, Shadur. What's up, everybody? Welcome to a very special post-NFL draft, mid-NBA and NHL playoff edition of Championship or Bust with Mack, Zach, and
1934 World Series Focus
00:00:22
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Josh.
00:00:22
Speaker
There's a lot going on in the sports world, so we're going to talk today about what's on everybody's mind in the 1934 World Series. Let's get to it. Josh, go ahead. I thought you were doing a Ben Verlander impression there. That was pretty good.
00:00:35
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was Yeah, anyway that Anyway, the 1934 World Series. I feel like it's been a a long time since we've covered a World Series, so we're back to it.
00:00:46
Speaker
The St. Louis Cardinals versus Detroit Tigers. The last World Series where both teams were led by player managers.
00:00:54
Speaker
The last one? The last time both teams had player managers, yes. Wow. That's sad. 1934. 1934.
00:01:02
Speaker
So game one, Detroit against the Cardinals 30-game winner, Dizzy Dean, with Tigers' general crowd on the mound. At the top of the second inning, the Cardinals opened up the scoring after loading the bases with a single and two errors, of course.
00:01:15
Speaker
An RBI single from jeff from Jack Rothrock scored the first two runs of the game. The Cardinals would get another unearned run in the third thanks to a throwing error by a Tigers shortstop and then a throwing error by the first baseman.
00:01:28
Speaker
ah Detroit would get on the board in the bottom of that inning on a Charlie Gehringer RBI home run, but the Cardinals would get that run back in the fifth inning on a Joe Ducky Medwick home run. I love these names.
00:01:40
Speaker
Imagine your nickname being Ducky. It's Ducky. Incredible.
00:01:47
Speaker
The Cardinals would then break the game open in the next inning, scoring four runs off reliever Firpo Marbury, thanks to RBI singles from Pepper Martin. and Joe Medwick, and an RBI, two RBI double from Bill Delancey.
00:02:01
Speaker
Detroit would put up a single run in the bottom sixth, and the bottom of the eighth, the last being a home run from Hank Greenberg, but that was all they could muster, as Dizzy Dean finished the game, and the win for the Cardinals, final score of 8-2-3.
00:02:13
Speaker
Game two, saw the Cardinals' Bill Hallahan go toe-to-toe with Tigers' schoolboy Rowe. Again, imagine, first name, schoolboy. The Cardinals would strike in the top of the second inning, on an Ernie Orsadi RBI triple,
00:02:27
Speaker
and then add another into third on a Joe Medwick RBI single. The Tigers would strike back in the bottom of the fourth, and a Pete Fox two-out RBI double. Down one in the bottom of ninth, the Tigers played a little bit of small ball, Zachy's favorite.
00:02:39
Speaker
Pete Fox single to start the inning, reached second base on a bunt, and scored on a single center field to tie the game. we like that. And this game would stay tied until the bottom of the 12th inning when reliever Bill Walker got into trouble issuing back-to-back walks and then a walk-off RBI single from Goose Gosling to tie the series one game of apiece.
00:02:57
Speaker
Game three, so the Cardinals back home and sending Paul Dean to the mound, not to be confused with his brother, Dizzy. And he went up against Tigers' Tommy Bridges. The Cardinals would strike first again in the first inning on a sack fly from Jack Rothrock after a Pepper Martin's triple.
00:03:13
Speaker
Another sack fly in the second. part and the lead We love Pepper Martin. We do love Pepper Martin. And we're going love even more because in the fifth inning, he got things started with a double and had scored on a Jack Rothrock triple. Rotherock then scored on a Frankie Frisch RBI single.
00:03:26
Speaker
Paul Dean would keep the Tigers scoreless all the way until the ninth inning when Hank Greenberg knocked an RBI triple. That's all they could get. The Cardinals taking game three by a score 4-1. Game four, Cardinals again opening the scoring, this time in the second inning on an Ernie Rosati sack fly.
00:03:42
Speaker
Tigers, however, would strike back in the top of the third with a bases loaded two RBI single from Billy Rogel and then another RBI single from Hank Greenberg putting Tigers up three to one Cardinals would get a run back in the bottom inning on a Ripper Collins RBI single, but they gave that run right back in the top of the fourth when JoJo White scored on a wild pitch.
00:04:00
Speaker
However, the Cardinals would then tie the game in the bottom of the fourth on a Virgil Davis RBI single and then Pepper Martin again, hitting into a fielder's choice scored another run. Did you say JoJo White?
00:04:11
Speaker
JoJo White, yes. He's a Hall of Fame basketball player named Jojo White. That's why I was thinking of it. He played in like the 70s for the Celtics. Interesting. Sorry, had basketball in the brain. Well, even more interesting, pitcher Dizzy Dean nearly got himself killed in this game.
00:04:23
Speaker
Pinch running for Davis, he broke up a double play by taking the ball directly to the head. oh oh He laid unconscious on the field and was rushed to the hospital.
00:04:35
Speaker
where he was luckily cleared and did not have a concussion. At least, did not have a concussion in 1934 terms. I was going to say, there's no way. Yeah, no, he had a concussion. for He probably did have a concussion.
00:04:48
Speaker
um Anyway, the game would continue on scoreless until the Tigers broke the tie in the top of the seventh on a Hank Greenberg RBI double, and then blew the game wide open, scoring five runs in the top of the eighth.
00:04:59
Speaker
A walk, a misplayed bunt, an intentional walk, And a Billy Rogel hit a two RBI single, which was followed by Hank Greenberg's RBI ground rule double. And then another single played another run. And then lastly, a dropped third strike error by the catcher led to the last run of the inning.
00:05:15
Speaker
And that would do it. The Tigers take game four by a score of 10-4 to tie the series. Now, who do you think is pitching in game five? Oh, no way. There's no way.
00:05:25
Speaker
Dizzy Dean, the guy that just got concussed in the game. On even better, on one day rest. Bro. And he goes up against Tommy Bridges, who is also on one day's rest.
00:05:38
Speaker
Tell me he didn't give up 10 runs, bro. you know ah You're to find out. Tigers will get to Dean in the second inning on a Pete Fox RBI double after a one-out walk. In the sixth inning, Charlie Gehringer with a home run to extend the lead, and in a sack fly a few batters later, that run, of course, unearned, as a single was turned to a triple by a throwing error.
00:05:55
Speaker
Bill Delancey would have sole shot of his own for the Cardinals in the bottom of the seventh, but that was all they could score against Bridges, who finished the complete game. and got the Tigers 1-1 away from a title. So yes, coming off of one day's rest and a probable concussion, he only gave up two earned runs and ah in a game. That's that's not bad.
00:06:12
Speaker
it was not Nothing to sneeze at. So in game six, Cardinals off to a hot start again, scoring on a Joe Medwick RBI single in the first inning.
00:06:23
Speaker
But the bottom a third of the third, Tigers would tie the game up on a Mickey Cochran RBI single after, you guessed it, an E4 extended the inning. In the top of the fifth, the Cardinals would take the lead back on a Pepper Martin. We love to see it. RBI single, where the runner on first would advance to third on a bad throw and then score on a Jack Rothrock RBI groundout.
00:06:39
Speaker
In the bottom of sixth, Tigers would tie the game on two unearned runs, of course. A walk, a single, and E1 played the first run before Hank Greenberg, RBI single, played the second and tied the game.
00:06:50
Speaker
Tied at three, top the seventh. Pitcher Paul Dean knocks an RBI single to right field, pull the team ahead four to three. Dean would then shut the door for the final three innings of the game and tie the series, forcing a game seven.
00:07:04
Speaker
Game seven in Detroit. Guess who's pitching? Big old concussion guy. And this game was scoreless until the top of the third inning when the Cardinals went off for seven runs.
00:07:16
Speaker
And surprisingly, all of them were earned. but Frankie Frisch got the ah RBI party started when he got up with the bases loaded and hidden and hit the and a double that cleared all the bases.
00:07:27
Speaker
ah The pitcher was pulled, and a ground duck got the Tigers one out away from getting out of inning. But that's when a wheels fell off. An RBI single from Ripper Collins followed by an RBI double from Bill Delancey, and then that pitcher got pulled.
00:07:39
Speaker
A walk and another single loaded the bases again for pitcher Dizzy Dean, concussion boy, i had to hit an RBI single. And in another walk with the bases loaded, scored the seventh run of the inning before that pitcher got pulled, and Tommy Bridges, on one day's rest, came in to finish the inning.
00:07:55
Speaker
Oh my god. In the top of the sixth, the Cardinals attack on two more runs, and then attack on another two more runs in the top of the seventh.
00:08:04
Speaker
And I got to go back to this sixth inning because this is probably one of the wildest things that ever happened in ah in a baseball game at this point. In the top of the sixth inning, Joe Medwick hits a triple and slides really hard at the third base.
00:08:18
Speaker
And him the third baseman, they tangled, but they got apart. And when Medwick went out to left field the next inning, Tiger fans were just throwing and shit at him, just anything, fruit, vegetables, bottles, cushions, everything that they could throw at the guy.
00:08:34
Speaker
to a point where the commissioner of baseball who was watching the game, Commissioner Landis, ordered Medwick out of the game just to stop the fans and throwing stuff on the field. Medwick was visibly upset. Wow. Yeah.
00:08:51
Speaker
Seen throwing his glove in the dugout in disgust. was the only time a player a commissioner has ever ejected a player from the game. Hey, Manfred, why didn't you pull Mookie Betts when our fans got unruly?
00:09:02
Speaker
I know. Wow. We'll give it to have been out of there. Absolutely
Hall of Fame Debates
00:09:07
Speaker
wild stuff. But anyway, Dizzy Dean on one day's rest and most likely concussed, which was a complete game six hit shutout and win the World Series for the Cardinals. That's unbelievable.
00:09:19
Speaker
That is unbelievable. So World Series MVP. I think you have to say he is. i have to Yeah. Lots of familiar names, man. Frankie Frisch, Pepper Martin. Starting to ah recognize these guys.
00:09:30
Speaker
Love to say it. Did you guys know Dizzy Dean before you guys started looking this one up? I was just, I was curious because like Hank Greenberg, I know you guys knew. Was Dizzy Dean one that, he was one that I've known since I was a kid, you know looking in the history stuff. I wasn't sure if he was one of those guys for you guys. Yeah, i knew him. I can't say I was familiar. on the Like Josh was saying, you know, first name school boy.
00:09:51
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and didn't say first name Dizzy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, ah for me, it was one that stuck out a lot. And when we get to the Izzy Hall of Famer section, I'm interested to see where you guys go with it because I thought that maybe there'd be more of like a preconceived notion than I guess maybe that there is.
00:10:11
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So it's good to know for me.
00:10:15
Speaker
Josh, you you hit everything? That's everything. Oh, wait, question. good the I think I went long enough. Yeah, this has to be the highest scoring World Series yet, right? Yeah. I can't say de definitively, but i would I would take a gander that it was probably, yeah.
00:10:30
Speaker
I mean, they scored 57 runs between the two teams in seven games. That has to be. I mean, I'm so used to you you know talking about rattling off gems and two-inch shutouts and these things, and that that barely happened this time.
00:10:46
Speaker
No, it didn't happen at all. There was one shutout. It was the last game. Yeah. i Honestly, though, imagine going into a game seven. And getting blown out 11-0. No.
00:10:56
Speaker
That's rough. yeah That's rough. Giving up 11 runs on 17 hits. That's terrible, yeah. And committing three errors. And the guy was doing it was concussed.
00:11:08
Speaker
And the guy who did it against you was probably concussed. Well, I have spoiler alert for you guys. In two years from now, when we cover 1936, the New York Yankees versus New York Giants, that's the most runs by a team in a World Series game ever with 18.
00:11:23
Speaker
Okay. Still to this day. Most of them runs by one team, 18. Impressive. As I'm trying to find the highest scoring overall World Series ever, and I'm having a lot of trouble with that.
00:11:35
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ah But found that.
00:11:42
Speaker
Are we ready? think so. it is time, and it's been a long time, for is he a Hall of Famer? This is pretty significant today because – the first The last time we did this, I sparked the idea to make a spreadsheet of all of our thoughts. And the day after, I just ran through and put up all of our verdicts on one spreadsheet. And this is what I found.
00:12:07
Speaker
Uh-oh. For this, are we counting the two guys that we put in as contributors as Hall of Famers or just the player guys? I would stick to players, but... Sounds good. I agree.
00:12:21
Speaker
So... This includes Pepper Martin, even though he's not in the Hall of Fame because we did debate him. um So I have elected 28 out of 39 players.
00:12:33
Speaker
Josh has elected one less than me, 27 out of 39 players. And Zach, the small hall guy, 24 out of 39 players. Oh, there you go. So it comes out to about 61.5%. You vote yes on Josh. You vote in 69.2%. And vote in just under 72%.
00:12:49
Speaker
and i vote in just under seventy two percent You know, it's funny too because we're only in 1934 and relievers aren't really a thing yet. Oh. Yeah. I think it's even smaller for Zach. Yeah.
00:13:01
Speaker
So in total, when we look at the ones that all three of us have said yes to, the total out of 39 is 22. So we have 22 championship robust Hall Famers. It doesn't include the guys that we've put on the ballots and stuff.
00:13:15
Speaker
um This is just for the World Series guys to this point. So I didn't put on like Tommy John and Andrew Jones and Todd Helton yet. If you guys want me to add those, I will.
00:13:28
Speaker
But if we're talking about just purely from the World Series stuff, um we have 22 Hall of Fame players and two Hall of Fame contributors in Lefty O'Doul and Huey Jennings.
00:13:39
Speaker
So that takes us to the 1934 segment. So we have to start with umpire Bill Clem. Goat. Goat. last Not on the sheet. I promise. Because we never formally voted.
00:13:53
Speaker
We go to the losing Tigers. Mickey Cochran, his fourth appearance, now two for two, ah two and two, I should say. I also want to apologize up front. um I was extremely under the weather when I prepared for this.
00:14:06
Speaker
I'm finally just starting to feel better. So if things sound a little off, that's why. So in this series, he went six for 28 with 214 average 563 one run batted in,
00:14:18
Speaker
one double run one run batted in Level 1, number 10 catcher between Bill Dickey and Gabby Hartnett. So nothing's really changed there. Goose Gosling, a returner.
00:14:29
Speaker
Fourth appearance. He's now 1-3. with a.588 7-29 with double. Two runs batted in. He remains level 1, number 17 left fielder between Heine Mnuch- two runs batted in he remains level one number seventeen left fielder between goose got ah between heini manoo And I believe, um actually, the spoiler alert's coming.
00:14:47
Speaker
ah Joe Ducky Medwick. So, spoiler alert, you see where I voted. um But looking forward to seeing your thoughts when we get there. So, Charlie Gehringer.
00:14:59
Speaker
Welcome the championship for a bust, Mr. Gehringer. In this series, he had.379 a.955 OPS. He went for with a double, home run, and two runs batted in.
00:15:10
Speaker
But that's not why he's in the Hall of Fame. Is he a Hall of Famer? Let's decide. Elected in the class of 1949 via our lovely runoff elections. He technically was elected seven years after retirement, so third ballot-ish.
00:15:26
Speaker
He was actually on a couple of ballots as an active player, so he wasn't technically a third ballot Hall of Famer, but by today's standards, he would have been. The 1937 MVP finished top five in MVP voting five times and top 10 in MVP voting ten times.
00:15:43
Speaker
He won a batting title, had a career 320 batting average. He led the league in hits twice, had seven 200-hit seasons, and finished with over 2,800. His final career numbers were a 320 batting average, 2830 hits, 184 home runs, just over 1,400 RBI, and 84.8 war.
00:16:02
Speaker
What are we thinking? You know me. Absolutely. Yeah, I mean, this is a no-brainer. I agree. You're getting into this web sheet. Congratulations, Mr. Geringer, the 23rd member of the Championship Robust Hall of Fame.
00:16:18
Speaker
Here we go. Woo, yeah, Zach, edit in some music. Yeah, get that going, Zach. You're going have to do that again pretty soon for this one. Welcome to Championship Robust, Hank Greenberg.
00:16:32
Speaker
I don't think I have to go much further, but I will anyway. ah In this series, he had 321 with 978 OPS, including a home run, two doubles, a triple, and seven runs batted in. He was elected in his ninth ballot.
00:16:44
Speaker
This does not count runoffs, but counting some years before his fifth year of retirement. So he started getting on ballots a little bit before normal eligibility would be now. um But when he got in, he got in with 85% of the vote.
00:16:58
Speaker
He's a two-time MVP and a four-time finisher of the top five. He lost his age 31, 32, and 33 seasons to military service. So we already know Zach's voting no. oh my um Put some black ink for you.
00:17:11
Speaker
he led the league in home runs four times, including a 58 home run season in 1938. Led the league in runs batted in four times, including 184 season 1937. rbi season in nineteen thirty seven Slugging in OPS one time each with staggering career numbers.
00:17:29
Speaker
670 slugging and 1.103
00:17:34
Speaker
The career numbers don't look amazing, Zach, but keep in mind that he missed three pretty solid years. We get it. We get it. Honestly, he missed more than three. 1941, he played 20 games.
00:17:47
Speaker
In 1945, he only played 80. So he missed four years, if not five. I misspoke before. 670 and 1103 weren't his career numbers. They were his league-leading years.
00:17:59
Speaker
But his career numbers were 313 batting average. His career OPS was not far off of that, 1.017 with OPS plus, hits, home runs, runs batted in I'm run through those because, like remember, he missed three years.
00:18:15
Speaker
and a fifty five point six war is he a hall of famer
00:18:22
Speaker
zack absolutely Okay, wow. Wow, he did it. I mean, this guy, he compiled 55 war and basically a nine-year career while winning two MVPs.
00:18:35
Speaker
hitting and Hitting 313. That's the comp. Yeah, I mean, yeah. Absolutely. yeah and you Tired at the age of 36 after hitting 25 home runs, hitting 250 and said, this was my worst year of my career. I'm done.
00:18:51
Speaker
Yeah. um but yeah with the full The only year that he played in fall and he didn't get an MVP vote and just said, that's it, I'm done. So for me, Geringer and Greenberg both are level two.
00:19:06
Speaker
um i didn't mention my ranking before for Geringer, but he I have him as the number eight second baseman between ah Roberto Alomar and Frankie Frisch. And I have Greenberg number 10 first base between Willie McCovey and Johnny Mize. I think I might even have him low.
00:19:22
Speaker
but Level 2, I think, is about right with the career number stuff. I could see an argument for level 3.
00:19:32
Speaker
And the winning Cardinals. um I mention him every time. um Leo DeRocher, he's in the Hall of Fame as a manager, but this is the second and final World Series as a player, so just wanted to shout him out again.
00:19:44
Speaker
We'll be hearing about him quite a bit soon enough. um In the series, 259, 7 for 27 with a double, a triple. And stay tuned for his managerial career.
00:19:55
Speaker
Frankie Frisch, welcome back. 6 for 31, 1 double. Ouch. Ouch. out And goodbye, Frankie Frisch. The level two, number nine second baseman between Charlie Goeringer and Ryan Sandberg. He leaves us after eight World Series appearances, four rings, and now leaves to build a long-lasting legacy of getting a bunch of undeserving guys in the Hall of Fame, including Jesse Haynes.
00:20:20
Speaker
Happy trails to him as well. The bottom pitcher of the Hall of Fame, in my opinion, pitched.2 innings of relief in this series and struck out two of the three batters he faced. There you He still don't belong in Hall of Fame. I'm sorry.
00:20:32
Speaker
All right. Josh talked about him quite a bit. Rockman Championship Robust, Joe Ducky Medwick. Fun fact about him, his nickname was also Muscles.
00:20:44
Speaker
So he's kind of like the muscly ducky guy. He's the ducky with muscles. Ducky muscles, baby. And um the nickname for the Cardinals at the time was actually the Gas House Gang um because they they were considered to have a rough appearance.
00:21:00
Speaker
um And opponents once said... And smell. And smell. Yeah, so they they wore unwashed, dirty, smelly jerseys, which would annoy the rival teams.
00:21:10
Speaker
That's like when the White Sox owner wouldn't pay for them to get their jerseys laundered. Yep, almost identical. Yes. So this is Joe Medwick's first appearance in ring. In this series, he dominated, as you heard Josh talk about a million times.
00:21:25
Speaker
He went.379 with.952 OPS. So he came up a lot, which is why he came up a lot in the summaries. 11 for 29, a triple, a home run, five runs batted in. Is he a Hall of Famer?
00:21:37
Speaker
Let's roll. He was elected in his ninth BBWA ballot. But weirdly enough, this time, nine years, was over 20 years after his retirement.
00:21:48
Speaker
And the reason why was because there was this time period that he was up for the Hall of Fame. Elections were only held every other year for most of it. So the 1937 MVP with St. Louis Cardinals won the Triple Crown and finished in the top five of MVP voting three times and top ten four times.
00:22:05
Speaker
He made 10 All-Star teams, led the league in hits twice, doubles three times, runs batted in three times, batting average slugging and OPS one time each and total bases three times.
00:22:17
Speaker
His career,.324 batting average,.867 OPS,.134 OPS plus, just under twenty five hundred hits 205 home runs and 1,383 RBI, a 54.5 war.
00:22:31
Speaker
Is he a Hall of Famer? You already heard my answer, so I'll just give you the ranking now for me, and then I'd love to turn it over to you guys. I am level one, number 16 left field between Goose Gosling and Jim Rice.
00:22:43
Speaker
I'll turn it over. You share him. You go first.
00:22:48
Speaker
I don't know. he's It's not a clear cut. I will say that. I mean, he had that one season in 37 where he won the triple crown and he was unbeatable.
00:23:01
Speaker
But the rest of his career is just like, eh. Just 10 all-stars for me. Put me over the edge, I guess. I mean, the guy had a run from his age 22 to 28 season. The guy was a great player.
00:23:16
Speaker
And then he kind of just existed for like eight more years. He wasn't playing a lot. of long careers go He wasn't playing a lot. He wasn't hitting a lot.
00:23:27
Speaker
No, this one's tough. yeah I mean, he was getting 100 hits a year and hits a year and of them were singles. yes For what it's worth, I have 19 left fielders in my Hall of Fame. I have him at 60. I just don't have a one i understand this guy played 17 years and hit 320, but also only had 2,500 hits. like Something about that doesn't add up to me. ah Five seasons, he played under 100 games. That might do it.
00:24:00
Speaker
Yeah, I'm struggling too. I just... You know, you that 10-time all-star argument you like to make, Mike, kind of like interested me, especially back then. That seems a lot more than cool.
00:24:14
Speaker
But I'm kind of with Sherman. not as clear-cut as you would think. I agree with that. I never said it was clear-cut. I've come to my conclusion. Josh? My answer is no.
00:24:25
Speaker
No. Okay. As a left fielder, you got to do better than that. He will not be the 25th championship of us Hall of Famer. um But Zach, are your thoughts?
00:24:36
Speaker
I am borderline. The hit totals are, I mean, career 324 is great, but like,
00:24:46
Speaker
I don't know. think we're going to have to go no as well, but it was a tough one. Wow. I was not expecting that. Not out of you. I gotta say, though, you know, 17 years, I understand the the game and hits numbers are on the lower end for that, but 134 OPS plus means he wasn't just a singles hitter.
00:25:05
Speaker
yeah Wasn't a singles hitter in his youth. Yeah. Dude, the guy fell off a cliff, I mean, honestly. He was a really, really good player. 100 RBIs year, 200 20 home runs, and then he turned 28 and just...
00:25:17
Speaker
two hundred hits twenty home runs and then he turned twenty eight and just He got traded. He got traded when he was 28, and it just that was it. His career ended. And he kind of just existed for like nine years.
00:25:30
Speaker
While we're on this then, all right, if you want to play that game then, why don't you take a look at Andre Jones' baseball reference while we're on here? Oh, it's probably not. Yeah. apply Good point. Good point. I'm just saying. it That's my genuine.
00:25:42
Speaker
He trumps Andre Jones. I'm sorry. I mean, gold gloves weren't made in this time. That's a big part of Andre Jones' case. Take a look at Andre Jones' career after 30.
00:25:54
Speaker
I knew Jones also had 434 home runs. Yeah, yeah. Go ahead, look. He also had 400 home runs. Yes, but his OPS plus is 20 points lower.
00:26:07
Speaker
111 OPS plus. I mean, my argument is that Jones had the home runs and the gold gloves. His war doesn't do it. His war doesn't do it. Medwick's war doesn't do it either. we have any idea how his defense was? No, we're not going to know, so.
00:26:24
Speaker
It was decent. Made double the All-Star teams, Andrew Jones did. That's good point. Won an MVP, Jones never did. Won a Triple Crown, Jones never did. Won a title, Jones never did. Won a batting title, Jones never did. I hold All-Star team. I hold the weight of All-Star teams. Not at all. Like, not even slightly.
00:26:42
Speaker
Do we agree that this era... Anybody can have a good three months the beginning of the season and to get named to an All-Star team. Fine. Do we agree that Andrew Jones played in a much more offensive-heavy era?
00:26:53
Speaker
Yes. Yeah. Yes. Okay. Every single rate stat, batting average, on base slugging OPS, Medwick is significantly higher.
00:27:05
Speaker
Every single one. What did he hit for under home runs? He's about 70 points higher batting average, finance in the era. um He's 25 points higher on base.
00:27:17
Speaker
He's 19 points higher slugging for that era. And he's 44 points higher OPS. I'll back up Joe Medwick here. I'm doubling down on the stance.
00:27:28
Speaker
I'm not saying he's a higher ring Hall of Famer, but he's a Hall of Famer. He's definitely borderline. It's not a bad. got me thinking.
00:27:37
Speaker
and i A lot of times when you guys say, no, I get it, I don't get this one. I'll be honest. um I again again point out that if this guy was a 320 hitter, but somehow only ended up with 2,400 hits, because he fell off of a cliff.
00:27:51
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I don't know.
00:27:54
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How did Todd Helton do at the end of his career? My my my thing is that, honestly, if if he had just retired at like 30, like if he went to if he if he went off to the war and then retired, I'd probably give him my vote. so and the But the abysmalness of his career at the end, i just it doesn't it doesn't do it for me.
00:28:10
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But you vote for Andrew Jones, who was not even a replacement level player after the age of 30.
00:28:17
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He's negative 1.6 war, man. that was one ten gall glove there four hundred home runs He had one season with more than one war after the age of 30. Andre Jones.
00:28:30
Speaker
I mean, so did Medwick.
00:28:34
Speaker
Right, but I think they're both Hall of Famers.
00:28:38
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Medwick had one season war after the age of 30. Yeah. point one point five or to the age of thirty
00:28:45
Speaker
Uh, so now Jones had have one. You're right. One with 0.9 with the Yankees when he had two 47 and played 77 games. I don't know.
00:28:56
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I think there, I think there real comp. Yeah. I, I, it's hard to compare two different areas. Jones zero is not an error of batting. I read it as an error of home runs.
00:29:08
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And he played gold glove defense. i Hard to speak on what kind of defense Medwick played. But he looked like he was an incredibly effective player in his in his young age. And then in his old age, he was kind of just there.
00:29:20
Speaker
Fair enough. it would be like To me, it would be like voting Brett Gardner into the Hall Fame. Because that's what his numbers look oh That's what his numbers look to me like. where He played you play decent left field.
00:29:31
Speaker
And he hit okay. And you were like, well, I kind of like the guy because he's a nice personality. And we sat there and we called him Muscle Ducky. Josh, Medwick had a thousand more hits. Let's lets but take a breath.
00:29:47
Speaker
I saved the pitchers for last. We have two of them. And they both have fun names. We got Dizzy and Dazzy. Who do you guys want to hear first?
00:29:56
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Give me Dizzy. Yeah, give me the concussion. first, okay. Both chairs are robust. Dizzy Dean. um My opinion has kind of changed after doing this, I'm going to be honest.
00:30:07
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ah First appearance, first and only World Series win. Had a heck of a series. He went 2-1 with a 1.73 ERA, fiverr and runs and twenty six innings seventeen to five strikeout to walk ratio. Josh mentioned a a lot.
00:30:21
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um He went into more specifics than I did, but is he a Hall of Famer? Elected in the class of 1953 with 79.2% of the vote. He was a four-time All-Star who won the MVP actually this season in 1934.
00:30:36
Speaker
And finished runner-up the next two years. Remember, there was no sa Young voting at the time. His peak was pretty short, though. Here are his final stats. He finished one hundred and fifty and eighty three He has a war and ERA, which translates to a ERA+.
00:30:57
Speaker
and just over eleven hundred strikeouts black type though he led league in war once wins twice Complete games three times. Shutouts twice.
00:31:08
Speaker
Innings pitched three times. And strikeouts four times. I actually wrote down here, Dizzy's a name you've heard of, but apparently not. But I've saved him for one of the last guys because he's definitely more borderline than I've thought.
00:31:22
Speaker
Yeah. um I'll talk you about where I have him when you guys go. You guys and go first. um i This is going to be – don't know if it's weird. I immediately think of like Leicester now when I think of like borderline pitchers and I want to go look at his comp and see if good comp.
00:31:41
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There's not going much to compare. You can try it. Go for it. it's He's more of a peak guy. So Leicester is more of a long-term guy. I don't know. ah You could take a look for sure. just know if he's the right comp.
00:31:53
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You're right. Leicester has better stats in almost everything. think he's more like a DeGrom type where – yeah I guess he'd be a lot about how you feel about DeGrom. I ah think, see, you can measure DeGrom's peak, but obviously because you want the Cy Youngs and all that. i don't right I really don't know with Dizzy just because the the stats aren't there for me. and right have you Have you seen this this story about the one game that he pitched six years after retiring?
00:32:27
Speaker
What? No. so So apparently he played his last game in 1941 at age 31. And then in 1947 at age 37, he comes back.
00:32:45
Speaker
He made a one-game comeback. Yep. After he retired, he was hired as a broadcaster for the St. Louis Browns, who had no money and were horrible. and they just wanted to drum up some publicity for the team.
00:32:58
Speaker
And after broadcasting a bunch of really bad performances in a row, he just said on on the radio, I could pitch better than these guys. To which the wives of the players on the team complained, and the team decided, you know what?
00:33:14
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Go out there and pitch.
00:33:18
Speaker
Honestly, pretty crazy. pretty crazy Did he have a good outing? ah Yeah, he threw four at ink with three hits and no runs. There you go.
00:33:30
Speaker
That's amazing. Yeah. And he's a single and is only at bat. I love it. When rounding first base, he pulled his hamstring.
00:33:42
Speaker
And then he said, quote, i I said I could pitch better than 9 or 10 guys on the staff, and I can, but I'm done talking to my game now, and I'm glad that muscle I pulled wasn't in my throat.
00:33:55
Speaker
like What a legend. you He gets my vote just for that. Are you voting yes? I'm voting yes. Not just for that, but I will vote yes for him, yeah. Oh, God. That's a great quote, though.
00:34:08
Speaker
That's really funny. And I will say it's not a – he's not a one-off. Like, Manny Minoso did something very similar. I don't think that was the reasoning, but it was like a promotional thing with the White Sox. He finished his career at age 40 in 1964, but then he came back 12 years later at 52 years old and played three games.
00:34:27
Speaker
Oh, my god Didn't get a hit. Um, but he did, as you know, he did get one hit. Uh, he got one hit in three games in eight plate appearances. Then four years later, he came back again at age 56 and played two games.
00:34:42
Speaker
So that's one of the things that I think hindered his hall of fame case for so long was that by the time he, you know was re-eligible, know, people saw him as the gimmick rather than the great player that he was. Right.
00:34:57
Speaker
But, Getting off topic, Zach, go ahead. What are your thoughts on Dizzy Dean? I kind of – I don't know. It's tough, but maybe I'd put him in for, like, the – just the legend of, like, you know, getting hit with the ball and and pitching really well in that World Series, being concussed and all that.
00:35:13
Speaker
And maybe, you know, his life as a broadcaster after, if it was that good, I don't know. But maybe you can put him in for, like, a lifer type thing. it It sounds like a really good story. you know Right.
00:35:25
Speaker
We'll put him in. Yeah, I – I think he's one, and I have gone back and forth on it because, like I said, for me, he was one of the names i would always know. um I always, like, I think he's ah he's also name-dropped in the who's on first, what's on second, don't know third.
00:35:42
Speaker
Is he Dean Daffy Dean? So I guess maybe that's where I always thought of him.
00:35:48
Speaker
i originally had him in, like, the 30s for starting pitchers in the high ring of level one. I still think he's a Hall of Famer. But I moved him down to like 56. Yeah, I was going to say he might be in the next one. I had him way too high when we put his career in context.
00:36:05
Speaker
So I have him down now with like the Louis Tionts and early wins when originally I had him with like Zach Greinke. Oh, yeah. No. He's not.
00:36:16
Speaker
So that was an know that was a miss on my part, but I fixed it. um So I have him 56 out of the 61 that I have in. So lower level, but I have him in as well. um Zach, I know you put him down as a contributor, but just for the authenticity of the spreadsheet, I'm just marking you down for yes as a player.
00:36:33
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. that was have So we have – so far we have – Three Hall of Famers today out of four. And our last one is Dazzy Vance. This one probably won't be as difficult of a case, I'll be honest.
00:36:49
Speaker
Welcome to Chips, your robust Dazzy Vance. This is his first World Series appearance and only World Series appearance. So it's kind like that Simpsons meme where he walks in whistling and then walks right out with Bart watching him. He pitched 1.1 innings of relief, facing seven batters, striking out three, and gave up an unearned run.
00:37:05
Speaker
He was a frequent nominee of the BBWA and was finally elected in 1955 with 81.7%. Did he deserve it? I'll start with this. Baseball reference recently, I don't know if you guys have noticed this, like i'd say maybe six months ago, they changed their stat boards for each player's bio to have something new in front.
00:37:28
Speaker
Originally, games was the first stat you would see with age. Now, war is the first stat you see. Yeah. He led the league in war four times, including two 10-war seasons.
00:37:40
Speaker
Despite that, he finished with only 62.9. sixty two point nine I put only in quotes. He led the league in wins twice, including a 28-win season with the Brooklyn Dodgers. But despite this, he only finished with 197 wins in a very win-heavy era.
00:37:56
Speaker
He led the league in ERA three times, and the three times he did it, he had a 2.09, 2.11, and He led the league in strikeouts seven times, whip three times, and strikeouts per nine innings eight times.
00:38:11
Speaker
He won an MVP as a pitcher. The only reason why there's even a slight thought in this is career numbers are relatively low for the era. 197 and 140 win-loss record, ERA, ERA plus, as I said before,
00:38:26
Speaker
and just over two thousand strikeouts is he a hall of famer
00:38:33
Speaker
absolutely I just think it's crazy he had stats like this and he didn't break into the league until he was 31. Yeah. yeah I should have added that, but you're absolutely right. Apparently he had some arm injury issues and then suddenly it just clicked and he was untouchable.
00:38:50
Speaker
Leading the league in strikeouts, what, eight years in a row? Seven years in a row? Yeah, the most the most games he played was nine prior to age 31, and that was in his age 24 season.
00:39:04
Speaker
um Missed two other years, played 27 for the Yankees, actually. Took another three years off, played at age 31 for Brooklyn. And now he's finally starting to be on some winning teams.
00:39:17
Speaker
Got to this pennant. This is only one. I'm really glad that we get to kind of cover him because he's he's one of those hidden gem guys that I don't think we've ever, like, and this is kind of what we did this podcast for was to find guys
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00:39:33
Speaker
like this.
00:39:33
Speaker
I was just going to say that i these this is one of those guys where i'm like, how have actually not heard of him before? Yeah. So I'm assuming we're all yeses here? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. So the only one we disagree on is Joe Medwick.
00:39:47
Speaker
So Zach remains the smallest hole. Josh put some distance on me. ah But overall, pretty solid. So now we have 26 members of the Is He a Hall of Fame Hall of Fame and two contributors to boot with that.
00:40:02
Speaker
And that wraps up our 1934 segment. Wow. That was fun. That was a really good one. That was i was a good group. and it's a you know No one other than maybe Hank Greenberg is super lock guy.
00:40:15
Speaker
And Goeringer. Goeringer is a clear cut. But there were three real borderline guys with you know hidden gem legends that don't get talked about a lot. so This is a fun one. It was. It was a good time.
00:40:26
Speaker
And now we're going to have some bad times because we're going talk about Devin Williams. After blowing two saves in his last three appearances, the Yankees have finally demoted him and Luke Weaver...
00:40:38
Speaker
gets to close out games now. And I assume Williams is going to pitch the eighth or seventh or something. But what do you think it is? Do you think he just can't handle New York? Do you think he's having trouble with ah is was the changeup that he throws?
00:40:52
Speaker
like I don't know where the struggles are coming from. I mean, he really wasn't a closer for most of his career. Like when you really think about it, he was kind of the eighth inning with Josh Hader.
00:41:09
Speaker
Was it the last like two years he's been a closer? Really three, yeah. 2022, he pitched in 65 games. He finished 21 of them. 2023, he pitched 61 games. He finished 49 of them. That was his first year as like a big-time closer, I guess.
00:41:26
Speaker
And 2024, partial injury season, he pitched 22 games, finished 19 of them. So if i if I'm reading this right, it seems like he won reliever of the year one of those years.
00:41:40
Speaker
As an eighth inning guy. Really? In 2020. In 2020, what was his 2020 numbers? He finished one game out of 22 and won the Relief of the Year award.
00:41:56
Speaker
He won two Relief of the Year awards. of them was an eighth inning guy. and So maybe this is just his role. I didn't know that. i actually didn't know you could win it. as a thought it was like saves-based. I'm not going to lie, I didn't either.
00:42:07
Speaker
I mean, um I'm assuming he didn't have one save in 2020, finished 18th in MVP voting, 7th in Cy Young voting, and won reliever of the year.
00:42:16
Speaker
That's crazy. So, it seems like he really only had two years of being the real closer, and one of those was injury-filled. This just might be what his niche is.
00:42:29
Speaker
Maybe.
00:42:33
Speaker
i was worried that it was New York. but I mean, he got to be the second he got here. I think there's two possibilities here, boys. The first possibility that he's, he's Sonny Gray 2.0. Yeah.
00:42:48
Speaker
That it's just, he can't handle New York. That the Yankees went out of their way to change the beard policy so he could grow his little facial hair and now he sucks.
00:42:58
Speaker
The other possibility is that, and like in the playoffs last year, he's tippin'.
00:43:08
Speaker
And when you know that changeup's coming, and he never throws it over the plate, you don't swing at it. Right. And his fastball is nothing special.
00:43:20
Speaker
So if you know the changeup's coming, just you just sit on it because you can't throw it over the plate, and then you swing at the fastball. i know I would really That's not a hard guy to hit.
00:43:31
Speaker
No. I just hope it's not tipping because you would think, you know, someone on the pitching staff would notice by now, right? mean, you would think, but everybody knew Severino was tipping with the Yankees and they couldn't fix it.
00:43:43
Speaker
So it wouldn't shock me if he's tipping. Yeah. I really think it's the role. You got to remember, this is the same a team with the same analytics department where Volpe changed his batting stance and nobody noticed.
00:43:57
Speaker
So I don't put anything past him at this point. Let's play a game, guys. How many seasons has Devin Williams had more than 15 saves? I'm going guess two.
00:44:08
Speaker
One. One. Oh. Oh, what do I win? 2023. Wow. It's the only time he ever had more than 15 saves. I mean, he wasn't really a closer. I don't think he wasn't really a closer until 2023, and in 2024, he only pitched like 20 games.
00:44:23
Speaker
so Right. But he's only he's never finished more than 22 games except for that one season. This isn't his role.
00:44:33
Speaker
Good point. maybe we it's that's That's as simple as it gets. If he struggles in the eighth, then yeah, maybe he's tipping, or then maybe the pitching coach sucks, or maybe it's just that he can't handle New York.
00:44:44
Speaker
And all those other theories can start to run. But this is not his role.
00:44:51
Speaker
So put him in the eighth inning and let Luke Weaver do it. Weave dogs butter. Guys, untouchable.
00:44:59
Speaker
Until he falls off the cliff. But right now, we're going ride him until it happens. Yeah, I was going to say. Got to be positive right now. Well, he's a rental. That's the good news. If he sucks, he's gone.
00:45:10
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, we love our rentals. If he sucks, he's gone.
00:45:19
Speaker
But that just might be his thing. He might be the new Dylan Batances. I liked Batances when he was with us, too. That's a pull. sir No run DMC, baby.
00:45:30
Speaker
yeah yeah Just every run DMC.
00:45:34
Speaker
What else do we want to talk about? The MLB scoring issues with Max Fried and all that? Are we too late on that?
00:45:43
Speaker
I'm actually sure what you're talking about. The no-hitter. Oh, yeah. I mean, listen. It was clearly a hit. yeah It was a bad call.
00:45:56
Speaker
But I don't understand how you can change hits into errors and errors into hits two or three innings later. maybe was two innings later. And then the funny thing is, is that we were talking about it the other day in Minaga, an error got changed into a hit.
00:46:16
Speaker
His ERA spiked the whole point and they changed this on a game that happened like two days prior. Oh, that's crazy. i just the arbitrary The arbitrary nature of hits and errors is is kind of out of control sometimes.
00:46:33
Speaker
But a commitment says if you're going to make a decision, you can't change it. yeah if You have until the next batter to change that decision. yeah That's it. You have enough time to watch a replay, maybe two, and that's it.
00:46:46
Speaker
You can't just sit there and analyze it. You know, it's like in hockey. You know, you score goal, and, you know, you want a challenger, you want to wave it off or something. it's You have, you know, five, ten minutes to look at it, watch couple replays, make a decision, and that's it. The game moves on.
00:47:05
Speaker
Here's what you understand. If we can retroactively take away hits... and retroactively add-on hits for burn-run purposes, why couldn't we retroactively take away a hit for Armando Galarraga?
00:47:22
Speaker
That's a great question. What's the difference? perfect and retroactly It had no impact on the rest of the game. Because I don't think you can... Because even if you were to justify that as an error, then it wouldn't have been a perfect game.
00:47:40
Speaker
No, you justify it as... ah you know A bad ump call batters out. Done. i that I mean, that would be a whole new thing. i mean, what's the difference? know they're never going to play around with everything. like upstage an umpire. How could they possibly upstage an umpire?
00:47:55
Speaker
The union. But my point remains the same. He he literally went on a broadcast, cried, and said, i messed up. I made a mistake. So, the union's out of it.
00:48:08
Speaker
I agree. union's out of it. The union's out of The union's of it.
00:48:13
Speaker
I know Sherm wanted to discuss the Rockies. I think they're on pace to break Chicago's record at the moment, right? Yeah, they're on pace to win about 25 games this year. And I don't think anybody's talking about enough because they're all like, oh my God, the Dodgers are good.
00:48:27
Speaker
The Giants are good. The Diamondbacks are good. The Padres are good. And the Rockies are there. There's nobody else in the division. You forget the Rockies have four wins.
00:48:39
Speaker
The problem is, and honestly, the they are a good candidate to They never get any better. No. It's not even that. Look at who they're playing against. Look at their whole division.
00:48:50
Speaker
They're all really good. The White Sox division last year, teams were getting it by default. point
00:48:59
Speaker
They're screwed. Yeah, Rockies have zero player development, though, too. I just feel like. They have no player development, and they spent all their money on Chris Bryant. And he's hurt every year. And Charlie Black made the right move to leave now.
00:49:10
Speaker
Yeah, dude, yeah. He made the right move to just retire. Yeah. My team is sad. And it's just not being talked about enough. But you know what else is not being talked about enough, I think?
00:49:22
Speaker
Bobby Wood Jr. Loki has a 19-game hitting streak, and I don't think anybody's mentioned it at all. ah to i didn't even know that. Yeah, exactly. He's a 19-game hitting streak. playing tonight. so so it's So it's safe to say this.
00:49:35
Speaker
But, like, he will not be getting a hit today. Yeah, but, like, I don't know how a guy can be hitting that well and it's just not being talked about at all. The league is up the big market's butt right now. i mean Yeah, they only want to talk about judges hitting.400 and Otani's Otani-ing. That's all they care about.
00:49:51
Speaker
And the fact that the Cubs are good now, too. i They seem like the real deal. The Cubs are good. Tarek Skubel's good. Paul Seas is good. And they don't care about anybody else. Yeah, the marketing for MLB has been very predictable.
00:50:03
Speaker
I feel like you haven't talked much about Scoobble either. He'd been great. there They have. they They talked about Hunter Green for about three days until until he started not pitching very well after they started talking about him.
00:50:17
Speaker
Yeah, that's about right. I will say, your boy Lodolo threw a gem the other day. Lodolo's very good, man. I keep telling you. yeah he he He is another guy that I think... is I mean, he's not as good as Scoobble, but he's another guy that's like... He's right on the edge of becoming elite. I don't know i don't know if he'll ever hit get over that hump.
00:50:35
Speaker
But he's like, he's there. He's right there. He's good.
00:50:41
Speaker
um I think we also have to talk about Juan Soso. I mean, Juan Soto. Juan Soso. I love is crazy. We love Frank for coming up with that one.
00:50:51
Speaker
Juan Soso. feel like he had a great start last year because of Judge. but Who knows? You got to give him some time. He's a great hitter. I'm not particularly... He'll be fine.
00:51:03
Speaker
I'm going to enjoy this while we have it, though. Yeah, exactly. like He's going to be fine in a few months. I just think it's funny. you know We talked last time about the the comments he made about not hitting ah and in front of Judge anymore.
00:51:16
Speaker
yeah um just think it's funny that everybody knows that he can't play the outfield, and it's like Mets fans are shocked that he can't play the outfield. He cost him the game the other day? He cost him the game two days ago. He cost him the game last night.
00:51:31
Speaker
a fly ball the outfield. I'm not saying it's an easy catch, but you know an average right fielder makes that catch. And then last night, he there's a fly ball, and he just doesn't he doesn't see any, I don't know what, but he doesn't even go get near it, and he's not he's not calling to say, I can't see it, I can't see it. like The center fielder could have easily made the catch, but he just assumes Soto's going to get it because it's closer to him, and he just doesn't.
00:51:55
Speaker
And he misses the ball by like 30 feet. Just lands. blow a seven run lead to the nationals. No less. That a nationals. No less. Pretty bad.
00:52:06
Speaker
Makes me so happy. But, uh, speaking about the Mets, I got to ask you guys, did you hear about Jason worth what he said? No.
00:52:16
Speaker
You guys remember Jason worth? Yeah, of course I do. Okay. Okay. So I got the context here is that Worth was on the Phillies when the Phillies won in 08, and he was really, really good. Zach Worth very well.
00:52:29
Speaker
He was really good. Yeah, Zach knows very well. right. he He was really good in 08. He was also really good in 09. It's seven home runs in 09 in the playoffs, which is impressive stuff.
00:52:40
Speaker
And after he left the Phillies, he ended up going to the Nationals. So he's very familiar with the Mets. He said on a podcast this week, and I quote, If you live in New York, you have a choice.
00:52:51
Speaker
You have an obvious choice. You can either be a fan of one of the most storied franchises, one of the greatest franchises of sports history, or the Mets. No way. I have no respect for people that pick the Mets. No way, bro. He said that?
00:53:06
Speaker
He said that? That's crazy. Word for word. That's actually insane. Wow. He hated the Mets during his career, and everybody knew it. But that is a wild statement to make, and I love it.
00:53:21
Speaker
That's nuts. Yeah, that's unbelievable. I love it. That's so funny. Where did he say this? What? Where did he say this? it It was on a podcast. the The Baseballer Show?
00:53:36
Speaker
BSBLR Show? you ever want to come on, I'll have my people call your people. that's Dude, it's hilarious. It's so funny. That's insane. I can't believe you had the boss to say that. um That's nuts.
00:53:48
Speaker
And another Phillies rumor. Zachy, you're gonna love this one. I cannot comment on the validity of this one, but I saw it today, and it made me laugh hysterically. ah So this was a rumor about Bryce Harper.
00:54:03
Speaker
Oh, I know where this is going, I think. Did you did you hear did you see this one? Well, i don't know. In spring training, there was rumors that they all got food poisoning because Bryce Harper... No, this is not that. This is not that. and stop that It's better than that. Significantly better than that.
00:54:16
Speaker
So this is a real rep Bryce Harper where he's talking about when he was a free agent in 2019 that the team that impressed him most in his first round of meetings... You want to guess at who it was?
00:54:29
Speaker
um You'll never get it. I'll take a guess. Miami Marlins. No. The Dodgers. Good guess. No. It was the Chicago White Sox. No.
00:54:44
Speaker
And Harper loved Chicago and was very interested in going there. However, when he was scheduled to have his second meeting, the White Sox owner no-showed.
00:54:57
Speaker
What? Again, I cannot come out of a law of Jerry Reinsdorf. Dude. But the White Sox owner is known for doing stupid crap. Oh, And you got remember, the White Sox were actually a good team this at this time.
00:55:11
Speaker
This was before Tim Anderson fell off a cliff. Oh, yeah. you know You know, but imagine if he signed with the White Sox, wouldn't that have been something? Oh my God. He would have killed himself by now.
00:55:23
Speaker
Anyway, I thought that was pretty cool.
00:55:27
Speaker
and The last thing on my list to talk, well, actually i have two, two things. um I cannot believe that major league baseball suspended jazz Chisholm. For violating the media policy by going into the dugout and tweeting that the umpires are bad, pretty much, after getting ejected on what was bad call.
00:55:45
Speaker
And then upon a appeal, they let him totally get away with it.
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00:55:51
Speaker
I cannot believe that. You really can't believe that? Because he violated the policy. I just don't know why they bothered dropping it.
00:56:00
Speaker
MLB is soft. We know this. Well, all right. moving on uh i guess congratulations are in order for john boy for somehow managing to go himself onto an episode of the simpsons that's crazy doing one of his famous breakdowns in a simpsons episode good for him or was it actually like a about like homer or something it was about uh i'm not a not really a simpsons guy but uh he was doing like a video breakdown of like grandpa stormed the field and was yelling at mo was like the umpire
00:56:35
Speaker
Or the coach or something, and they're yelling at each other and kicking dirt. And he's like doing a breakdown like he would. How many seasons now? Like 20-something? Too many. Too many. Forever.
00:56:46
Speaker
Yeah. All right. Yeah, anyway, that is my list of things I'd like to talk about unless you guys have anything else. Yeah, the reason I brought up the toilets was because Yamamoto said that he liked the Dodgers better because they have bidets in all their toilets because they can't get these people. Oh, it was Sasaki. It was Sasaki. Oh, Sasaki.
00:57:04
Speaker
That can't be real. ah Yeah, I mean, that can't be real. It would be funny if it was. I mean, it kind of tracks. post did post it. I was going to say the Dodgers have a ton of people from overseas, and, you know, Japanese people love the bidets. Like, it kind of makes sense.
00:57:19
Speaker
It actually is reported on in the post. Like, I don't... know I thought it was like a fake tweet, but now, like, news sources are picking it up. Makes sense to me.
00:57:29
Speaker
But I was like, I wonder if that's allowed. Like, i don't know how you can attract free agents by your toilets, but okay. i mean, look, if you're... paying a guy hundreds of millions of dollars, you might as well splurge for the toilets, I guess.
00:57:41
Speaker
So you're telling me that how to get this guy because he couldn't buy damn bidets? Is that what I'm hearing? He wouldn't let Soto's family have a suite and he wouldn't get a Japanese toilet. He wouldn't let Soto's family have a suite and he wouldn't let... Now I'm not going finish that sentence.
00:57:56
Speaker
I just... I mean... Just make the $30 chicken buck $31 and buy the damn bidets. It's not that much. Sasaki later admitted the suggestion was a bit more tongue-in-cheek, but the pitcher liked that his team was willing to listen to his input, and that was definitely a factor in him joining the team.
00:58:13
Speaker
See, there you go. Listen to the post.
00:58:17
Speaker
Damn it, Hal Steinbrenner. You cheap, you cheap. Oh, my God. Well, i mean, at this point, do we want Sasaki? He kind of sucks. I wouldn't say that. No, I know. stuff is nasty if he can figure out how to control it. He's wrong.
00:58:31
Speaker
His stuff is so nasty he doesn't know where it's going. He's only kidding. he He didn't know where he was going in Japan either. He'll figure it out. i'm not I wouldn't be shocked. Yeah.
00:58:43
Speaker
Well, yeah, that's all I had. I just want to remind you the toilets because, you know, very important about the days. Yeah. This is right.
00:58:53
Speaker
And that wraps up our 1934 episode of Championship or Bust. We hope that we didn't disappoint you as much as Sidor Sanders' family was disappointed this weekend. And we will see you guys real soon.
00:59:05
Speaker
See guys later. Peace.