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Podcasting: a good hobby for the curious– a conversation with Rashad Woods host of TRON
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A fascination for facts led to a curiosity about the people behind the facts
Rashad Woods is the host of T.R.O.N. the hit podcast that developed out of his fascination with facts and the people who worked on the projects that resulted in the fact.
In this episode of the Abeceder work life balance podcast Rest and Recreation, Rashad describes to host Michael Millward how having the encyclopaedia Brittanica resulted in him developing the ability to store and recall facts, making him the sort of person you need on your pub quiz team.
Rashad’s enduring curiosity with other people and the work that they do led to him launching the T.R.O.N podcast.
Rashad and Michael discuss the similarities and differences in their experience of hosting a podcast and the lessons they have learnt.
Their discussion covers
- Creating a positive experience for guests
- Adding value for the audience
- How conversations develop
- Being a podcast that guests want to appear on
- Learning from guests like Elizabeth Solaru
Rashad describes how he spends his leisure time and the lessons he learnt from participating in those hobbies.
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Introducing 'Rest and Recreation' and Guest Rashad Woods
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Hello and welcome to Rest and Recreation, the work-life balance podcast from Abusida. I'm your host, Michael Millward, the Managing Director of Abusida.
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Today, i am talking to Rashad Woods about podcasting. Rashad is the CEO of Second Half Productions and the host of the t r o n TRON podcast.
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I feel as if I'm in the presence of podcasting royalty. I'm going to have a learning experience, I am sure. Rashad is based in Detroit, which is in Michigan in the United States. It is a city that I have not visited.
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Rashad's Journey into Podcasting
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fees. So you can also access those trade prices on travel. Now that I have paid some bills, it is time to make an episode of Rest and Recreation that will be well worth listening to, liking, downloading and subscribing to. Also, I hope will be worth telling your friends, family and colleagues about.
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As with every episode of Rest and Recreation, we will not be telling you what to think, but we are hoping to make you think. Hello, Rashad. Hi, are doing? Glad to be out here. I'm doing very well. Thank you very much. And I hope that you can say the same. I absolutely can. And you're, you know, to be
Exploring 'The Randomness of Nothing' Podcast
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honest with you, you know, like don't dismiss yourself. You have a great voice, a great podcast, and it is an absolute honor to be on here. I always get humble when people want to interview me, to be quite honest with you I'm not going to interview Rashad. We're just going to have a conversation.
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Shoot some breeze. Absolutely. You know, I can tell you the story about how I got into podcasting, but how did it start for you? I think one of the keys that actually happened to me was that, you know, even as a kid, I was always told us I talk too much, right? So it's kind of funny, right? When I was a kid, I had encyclopedias in my room and i always watched documentaries. I would always read about things. i was always curious and fascinated. And so as I got older, I realized that I would like to take that curiosity and transform it into a podcast about my own personal of curiosity. So the Tron podcast, T-R-O-N, is really all about what do people do for a living? How did they get into that field of work? What hobby did they cultivate? What made them them? And what path did they take from it?
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And it's been fascinating as I've gone along this journey now because people have reached out all the time wanting to be on the show because I think there are stories to be told. you know, success is pretty, very easy story to tell when it comes to non-confrontational type things. And I try to cultivate where everybody ultimately gets their voice heard and can inspire some people. Cool. So what does the T-R-O-N of the Tron podcast stand for?
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The randomness of nothing. The kind of the funny part about it is I don't have a specific topic only because, you know, I don't do one thing specifically that you can say Rashad can do this. Right. So I don't work on cars. I can't you know build a house. I can't cook. So when you narrow all the things down that I suck at, the one thing. that i The one thing that I'm really good at is I can pull random facts off the top of my head. Right. So like if you want to hear about the Colossus of Rhodes or you want to talk about the transatlantic, you know, cable line, or if you want to talk about something that got invented by some obscure inventor, I probably can probably navigate those waters pretty well.
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But in terms of practical things like mending a car, painting a house, it's not going to happen. No, not at all. So I can watch a movie, like really legitimately, and there could be something going on in a movie. And I'd be like, this took place during this particular time period. And I'll be talking like my wife or a friend and they'll be like, dude, can you just watch the movie? Like, I can't. I just, man, I can't, man. I gotta, or I'll Google it right when I'm talking, right? Like I'll watch something like Peaky Blinders. And then all sudden I'm like, where did this gang come from? They come from Birmingham. Yeah.
Podcasting as Exploration and Learning
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Where my family come from, you know? Well, yeah, what a great day that was, man. And so, you know, your personal curiosity should not end just because you got out of college or university and you kind of transitioned to just standard everyday life, so to speak. The podcasting for you is almost like an expansion of that Encyclopedia Britannica type of experience. It's your curiosity and your creativity coming together.
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Correct. And the internet has brought the world closer together. There's not really, you know, that sort of, I didn't know because you have access to find it out. And so it's just up to you to go ahead and find those people that have navigated those waters that you haven't and get a chance to talk with them, pick their brain. And I'm very generous for their time too, because these people are extremely busy, extremely successful.
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But ultimately I think that when you come from a pure place and you just want to hear what they do for a living, it makes for a great experience. That is very true. It's finding out what the work is really like. And of course, I'm an HR ah professional and i am fascinated by how people work, why people work, how they adapt work to suit them rather than just becoming part of the machine, so to speak. It just fascinates me completely.
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Oh, it does. And the thing is about it is, is that once you have that, people let their guard down. And I've got enough episodes up that I really, I think, to to the best of my ability, really, to not ask gotcha questions, to not feel like people feel uncomfortable. I'm not going to quote unquote, go there with people. Whatever you've told me in your show notes or your bio is what going to talk about. now I'm not Diane Sawyer, right? Yes.
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The sharing should be a positive experience for everyone, I think. Absolutely. You know, and the world is a very small place and people ultimately don't want to feel uncomfortable or embarrassed. I know we live in that era where it's cool to embarrass people and cool to make people feel bad because we get clicks and likes on it. That's not what i'm about No, the embarrassment type things, the, um, the pranking things have a fairly short life to them. Once you've seen it, when you've heard it, it's done, it's dusted. But if you've actually got something which is entertaining, informative, educational, people will go away thinking, yeah, I learned something from that.
Technology's Impact on Podcasting
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I ah see the world slightly differently as a result of that. They will come back to it again and they will learn something something new from the same content that you've presented. Exactly. And the thing is about it too, is everything that you use and that everything that you have at your disposal has a baseline point that somebody started it somewhere, right? You could be on these computers right now. Well, you know, yeah there's there's evidence that people had quote unquote computers in ancient times. It just wasn't, you know, digital, so to speak. The early internet was the transatlantic cable line when they placed it in the Atlantic and Ocean and they connected Europe with North America. And now the telegraph system was transmitting data and stock prices in real time. Right. So it's the early precursor of things. And when you know that those things are still being in use and they're placed around the world, you start realizing that, wow, there is a deeper history than a device that I'm using.
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Right. There is a deeper history of the food that I'm eating. The reality about it is, too, the second stool to that is, There's a reason why the products you're eating or drinking and you're consuming aren't killing you. because they ultimate I know it sounds like a macabre thing to say, but think about it. right like Think about how much stuff you throw in your mouth. You throw your toothpaste in your mouth, your mouthwash in your mouth, you cook your food. right You're doing all this stuff. You pop up you drink pot. Well, at some point, unfortunately, those things killed people.
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And it wasn't until they found out the right pH level to mix stuff with to make sure that it didn't do that. and But understanding
The Value of Curiosity and Learning from Guests
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how they got to that point is why we're ultimately living the lives that we are right now.
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It's true. So but it's Voyage of Discovery. You've given me a great opportunity there to to plug my Fit for My Age podcast because where we have a fascinating episode all about sugar and how sugar is, wow, you know, I never knew. i never knew. But and yeah, and how addictive it is. Yeah, I know. i' ah i'm yeah you You listen to things and you listen to the person who is passionate about what it is they're talking about and you are never bored. Absolutely. And and the reality about it is is that there's a certain apprehension or kind of a when people get older, they're not supposed to be curious because they don't want to be that person in the room asking a lot of questions and look that funny. but some of the most navigated sites in the world are the Wikipedia. I'm not saying Wikipedia is you know, that's not endorsement of it because obviously you have to check your own accuracy. It has a lot of traffic to it because people constantly want to learn about things and they can go down that wormhole of whatever they seek. And then they can be like, okay, want to learn about that. learn about this. I want to learn about that. And it becomes organic and you become a better, well-rounded person. You know, I do martial arts. And so, I have a black belt in Tung Su Do Karate, a brown belt in Taekwondo, and I've done Muay Thai Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu.
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ah you better be like You better at least know what you're practicing as opposed to just practicing it, so to speak. Yes. Where did it come from? What's the lineage? What are the techniques that were learned? you know how did it how Some of these things were formed with military and combat, and it's a lot, a lot of history behind these things.
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Understand the reason why something as it is as it is. Right. And you can understand how to apply it. It doesn't matter whether that is some form of martial art or any type of skill that I think you need to apply. It's like someone once said to me, Mike, you've got to learn the rules first and then you can break them. Exactly.
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You know, there's ah there's a great martial arts. I have never practiced it because there's no way I could do these techniques. i want to say there's no way. It would be a very painful experience. It's called capoeira. I mean, i've I've done martial arts, but they do it's a dance, and they do a lot of handsprings and somersaults. it's ah its It came from ah Brazil, and it was from the African slaves, and they disguised it as a dance, right? So if you've ever seen it, they do a lot of flips, lot of spins, a lot of high kicks. It's acrobatic.
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It was designed as a dance originally. You see, this is the way conversations go. It's like you've mentioned that. Then I could
Audience Engagement and Insights from Diversity
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say, well, actually, that reminds me of all of that um break dancing. Yes. You could start to see the connections of to how the world sort of all fits together.
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Absolutely. Pangea, baby. Yeah. Cool. On Tron is like a, is a very successful podcast. Thank you. You've got lots of very interesting guests on there, but I've got to ask you, well, who's would you say was the guest that was most difficult to get?
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You know, it's funny because people reached out to me. So it's like i was nervous when I first started because I didn't know if people wanted to be on my show. So um I haven't reached to the stratosphere of trying to get like a like a Killian Murphy or anything like that. But ah to the level of I don't say difficult to get, but it's been pretty organic where we have a good dialogue prior to the show and we talk with one another. So there really hasn't been that kind of ah kind of situation that I found myself in, to be quite honest with you. The vast majority of the guests approach me, right right which is which is absolutely fantastic. And i have I feel totally blessed by the high quality guests that I have had on my podcast. but I was asked to do a series of podcasts about a particular topic. so I said, right, okay, who should I get as a guest? And I felt like I want this particular public figure. And I thought, no, there's no way.
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There's no way. And I felt like, well, there's an email address. yeah Just send them an email. yeah And bang, back came the response, which I, good job I was sitting down. And it just said, yes, I'll do it.
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Unbelievable, man. It was like, wow. It's that down to that sort of thing of never accept no from someone who isn't in empowered to say yes. And never let the fear of no put you off asking. For sure. Here's the crazy part about it is is that you know Sometimes we see these viral videos of like the guy that proposed to his girlfriend at the at the football match, and then he gets rejected. you know what But what we forget about all that is that he tears he dared to take a chance. yes We watch martial arts, we watch boxing. Whether or not people think about one another, it's much easier to be in the ring. than you know It's easy to laugh outside of it at somebody's losses. It's hard to train for months on end and be at that position to do so.
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Right. Yes. It's a bit like you watch any sort of sports, whether that's athletics, football, you call it soccer, yeah you know, whatever it is, you know, you can stand there and say, oh, they were terrible. They were terrible. But there were 11 of them.
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There were just 11 of them. Yes. And no matter how bad they were, they were probably an awful lot better than you were. Exactly my point. Right. Like, it's it's funny. You know, you watch the Olympics. Right. The guys get the guy or girls get dusted. Right. You watch the hundred meter dash. and You're like, damn, they got their butt handed to him. And you're like, that's one of the 10 fastest people on Earth.
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Like that's one of the 10 fastest people on
Keeping Content Accessible and Enjoyable
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the planet. So what does that say about the person that's beating them? they They've all done that 100 meters in 10 seconds or less. Right. Out of all of the guests that you have, has there been one that is that has surprised you in the sort of content that they gave you? oh it Definitely would have to be. And I've had I love all my guests. You know, I've had some great ones. And so Elizabeth Salarou, she's a woman that's in England, actually. And she's a elegant cake maker and baker. And she formed her own business. And she's actually cooked for the royal family.
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Here I am, you know, in Michigan. And I'm talking to a woman that's created her own luxury brand. And she's Making cakes for these types of people. Right. And so you're like, I can't believe that all I had to do was open my stupid mouth.
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And I get a chance to talk to somebody who does something like that. I mean, you know what i mean? Like we get yeah we get sucked into complacency and normalcy. And sometimes we don't even know it.
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We don't even we're so we can go on so autopilot that we don't even know that it is autopilot. You could close your eyes and get to where you needed to go every single day. When I got a chance to talk to somebody like that, I'm like, I would never in a million years have talked to you if I hadn't took a risk and put this show up.
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That's true. i I know exactly what you mean. I think that when you get a chance to talk to people like that, you can kind of, after the show is over, you can say, you know what? I think I'm doing something. Yes.
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Yes. But that's one of the part of the learning, isn't it? It's not so just much like I learned this from this guest. It is the whole experience of actually saying, yeah you know one day in the morning, I'll be talking to someone in Australia, the next, it'll be somebody in the Middle East. And then, you know, I'm talking to someone on the West Coast of the United States. So, and and I would never without the internet, without the podcasting ever have had the opportunity to discover those people to learn from never, never, but it is saying, I'm going to do it.
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And that's it doing it, you learn an awful lot about yourself to be able to have a conversation with someone about something that they have done to learn about their experiences, and it adds an awful lot to yourself as well as to your audience.
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And it makes for a captivating experience, right? Because like, I mean, I've never been the type of person that I would, I don't want to say this in a bad way, but I mean, I would get bored hearing my own self-talk if I only talked about one specific thing.
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but i Me personally, like that's just, and that's not a knock on any show because there's so many successful ones. But I mean, I wouldn't feel, i love boxing, right? I love boxing. I don't want to talk about boxing at all. day I just don't want to talk. um I just don't want to talk about boxing all day. Right. Like, OK, like at some point it would be like, man, listen, man, you know, yeah, if you've seen every technique, these guys are great athletes and women, too.
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Right. And I love everything about the sport, but I don't want to just, you know, I don't want to talk about that all the time, you know. It opens up windows, doesn't it? It does. that You're having the opportunity to talk to someone else who's led a completely different life to you. And as a result of that, you your life is enhanced as well.
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Absolutely. And I think that I'm a better person for it because then I realized that the the world is a very big place. And even this's in it in the internet has made it very smaller at the same time. What sort of feedback have you been getting from your audience? Is there anything that sort of like you read or heard and just stopped you in your tracks? and People have been very receptive to it. They tell me that they, you know, they they're very grateful that I have a show like this and And they they said, hey, I listened to this episode and it's really captivated and caught my attention. And it kind of stops in your track a bit because you're just like, that's not supposed to be me they're talking to.
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Right. Yeah. You know I Like, what do you mean you caught my my podcast and my show? Like, I'm supposed to be a consumer of something. You're not supposed to be consuming something that I created. Right. its So you kind of be like, oh you know, it's kind of it's kind of a weird dichotomy to be, you know, be praised for something.
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Yeah.
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then the show can go whatever way it goes right and so i think the one thing that i've i've done two things that i've tried to make sure that that continually happens I don't talk about religion and I'll talk about politics. I don't care who you voted for and I care what God you worship or do not. Right.
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That's none of my business. That's not the purpose of the show. There are places people can go if they want to do that. And I'm not knocking those platforms or their shows. I think people get very tribal when those things happen and they get by avoiding that or definitely navigating that area space.
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It makes for a better experience for the person. Yes, I think you're right. each We have to define, I think, when we're creating a podcast, what it is for and what it is not for. exactly And then stick to what it is that you've said you're going to do. Right.
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You know, when you go to get fast food, you're going to get exactly what you paid for 25 bucks for. You're not going to get the best meal. You know what I mean? Like, if you wanted a deep, you know, introspective thought about the history of Western civilization, it's probably not my show.
Expanding TRON into Real-World Experiences
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Right? Right.
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it's It's probably not, it's better suited to go elsewhere. And if we can talk about how you created your business, how you navigated this this this sort of plane of yours, so to speak, and you came out of the other end, you know, smiling and shining for it, um then that's the person i want to talk to.
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It's amazing, isn't it, how things that can be very personal in the right context, people can be very comfortable talking about them. If you put that conversation in an unconstructive context, one where you're trying to find fault or to ridicule, you make people very uncomfortable. Of But if you're just sharing people's joy in their achievements and lessons that they learned when things didn't go quite so well, and sometimes their sorrows, then you create something that is interesting, good to listen to, and actually has a happy ending at the end of it. It's kind laughable, right? Like you listen to like a debate show. It's like,
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Bob, why do you think this? Rob, you know, or Richard. Yeah, I think this. Well, I don't think this. And I don't think. And then it's like for an hour and a half of why you don't think the other guy is right or wrong. And you're just like, listen, man, there's no real. like what is What do we what do? you talk And they're insanely popular.
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they're insane But you're just like, how can so how can you sit down and do that for that amount of time and then do it every day? Right. And then like at some point, I like to think of what's called the end game.
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What's the end game to something like that? Like ultimately, what is that really going to be the end game? More than likely, if you're not a very stoic and monk like person, you're going to be cursing under your breath and ready to you know break something afterwards.
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And it's like, it's not for me, man. Like, to each his own. You know, if that's the way you want to roll and it makes you some money, I guess. But, man, I have no interest whatsoever in getting into something like that. I'll go insane.
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I really would. Yes, I would as well, I think. would as well But you you talk about the listeners actually actually looking at charts and seeing where in the world people are listening to little old me and it's like, whoa, type of thing. For sure, it gets fun, man.
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Yeah, and then one of the advertisers will be in touch and say, like, there's been this level of interest from your advert or our advert on your podcast. You're thinking like,
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not only are people listening but people are engaging with the content as well and what's really great is when a guest contacts you say you know i've been on your podcast and now i've had six or seven people contact me in the first day based on what i said on your podcast and then they're going i didn't realize i would sound so intelligent and i say it's because you were having a conversation with me You know, if here's the funny part is if that rubs off on me, you know what i mean? Like, I'll be grateful for it. Like, at the end of the day, like, this is a saturated
Learning from Unexpected Opportunities
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space. So anybody who thinks that they've, you know, and reinvented the wheel or they're some sort of, you know, unless, I mean, let's just put it out there. You have to be willing to have really good, compelling content to draw people's attention because they have every streaming service at their disposal. They have kids, they have sports, they have lifestyles. They have a very small amount of time to find entertainment. So for if you suck, trust me, you will not get people will tune you out.
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This is true. You've mentioned that you enjoy your martial arts and your boxing. yeah And I'm thinking about how the other demands on your time. So what is it that you do, Rashad, when you are not actually working? What's how do you spend your rest and recreation time?
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I work out. I spend time with my family. I have three beautiful daughters and a wife. And so I always met you try to make time out for them. And they do play, two of them play soccer slash football. One of them. So I had to learn to love that. Right. I had to learn like i never played. that as I never played it as a kid.
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Right. So I had to learn to love that. One of them ice skates. I couldn't ice skate if, you know, if the apocalypse was upon us and they told us that had I mean, I had to ice skate. to save the world. Well, you just might as well all go to hell in a handbasket because that's not, yeah mean that's not happening. But when you learn to love other things that you're not accustomed to, it becomes, again, makes you a better person.
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So I truly do love working out. I'm not always the best, most disciplined eater, but martial arts is a very disciplined item that you can really do at almost any age. I certainly have ah appreciation for the all the people who have trained me and gotten me to a black belt and karate and, you know, respectful skill set in other arts.
00:23:10
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That's great. What is the future for the Tron podcast and second half productions? what Ideally, the way that the show would go would be go from just interviewing guests to start to go actually at businesses and locations. and be like, show me in person how this business operates and runs. Show me how this device or a product is made, and let's do a kind of pseudo-documentary or in-person type of situation to give a better understanding of your business or your success. It's very important for me that the show evolves to the next stage of its ovens of what it can be, and that's my hope. Instead of talking about what people do for a living, the work that they do, you'd actually be going out and seeing them in action. And I suppose experiencing being what it's like to do that job as well.
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Absolutely. You know, like, you know, I mean, think about it, right? I'm not a big fan of bees, but if you ever interviewed a beekeeper, be like, hey, man, strap me up in the suit and let me see what this lifestyle is. Because somebody's got to do it. You know what I'm saying? Yes.
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You have an appreciation of those things and it it can make for a fascinating experience because sometimes, you know, when you're when you go to university or college, they give you a very standard way of how your life is supposed to operate and function.
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They give you a very, very narrow viewpoint of how the world operates and functions. And then you'll find out that somebody collects seaweed for a living and you don't hear about that if you're sitting in a classroom. Right. No, you definitely don't. Well, I'm like, it's I'm fascinated by the the jobs that people do the training that they do yeah in order to be able to do that job and the pride that people take in doing a good job. I don't believe anyone goes to work with the intention of not doing a good job. of course And, um, watching the the expert, the craftsperson who can make something that is very complex, look really simple.
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It's mind blowing. It's mind blowing. Right. And so right now is there's somebody who is in an area that doesn't have internet, you know, cell phone, or is is a very, very hard to reach area that is creating something that is so fascinating. I mean, ultimately, you right, that's how the world got connected together. People ultimately got on their ships to see what else was out there.
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And then next thing you know, they're like, what do you mean you make this? what do you mean this is in this area, this respective country? you know I had no idea they grew this particular item. i didn They never knew. you' like you had no clue, right?
00:25:35
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You know, if you if you needed if you lived in a very cold or hot area and you needed certain clothing to make better for survival in those respective climates, or if you were traveling on ships and stopping and dropping at ports, your eyes got opened up.
00:25:49
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Yeah. So the Internet is, I suppose, in many ways, a bit like the Christopher Columbus. We're exactly still going off and finding new ways of doing things. exactly what it is. it's it's It's really all about, are you willing to take the risk to find it out? Or are you just going to autopilot it, eat your breakfast, eat your lunch, go home, go to sleep, throw the football batch on, go to sleep, wash, rinse, repeat. You know what I mean? like it's like the movie It's like the movie Brazil, right?
00:26:19
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You know what I mean? Yes, I do. It's it's about so thinking, what do you really want to do in life? What could you do in life? And actually saying, okay,
00:26:29
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Let's take the first step towards doing what I want to do, breaking out of the mold and and creating your own own mold for your own life. Absolutely. Brilliant.
Episode Conclusion and Listener Encouragement
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Rashad, I have really enjoyed this conversation and it has flown by, but I really am grateful appreciate it for you helping me making such an interesting episode of Rest and Recreation. Thank you. I appreciate your time and i'm very grateful for the opportunity.
00:26:52
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Thank you. I am Michael Millward, the Managing Director of Abbasida. In this episode of Rest and Recreation, I have been having a conversation with Rashad Woods, the CEO of Second Half Productions and host of the TRON Tron podcast.
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