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Jujutsu Kaisen S2 Ep3 Hidden Inventory Pt3
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We're Halfway through the Hidden Inventory arc of Jujutsu Kaisen Season 2! While there some frustrations, there's a lot to love too. How are you feeling about the arc so far??
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Introduction and Podcast Overview
00:00:01
Speaker
On another exciting episode of the Animation Deliberation Podcast, we are halfway done with the arc that features Gojo's past. We are talking Jujutsu Kais in Season 2, Hidden Inventory 3. Right after these ads, we have no control over. Sing along if you know the words. One, two, three, it's time for animation deliberation. A conversation and a celebration of our favorite action animated series. Yeah.
00:00:26
Speaker
Yeah, welcome back to another episode of Animation Deliberation, the podcast where we take action animation and cartoon seriously, but not too seriously. We are hosts, I'm Zuhara Lee. And I am Andrew Rogers. And the anime talk continues. We are talking Jujutsu Kaisen.
Jujutsu Kaisen Critique
00:00:41
Speaker
This is a fantastic show that is currently getting on my nerves. We are going to get to that, but how are you doing, bud?
00:00:50
Speaker
I'm doing good. It's been, you know, a long couple weeks. I'm sure you have all missed me or I'm going to pretend that some of you out there at least missed me. But yeah, it's so good to be back in the exciting anime to talk about because this has been very fun catching up in the last couple weeks. And then finally, like now having to wait week to week again is just
00:01:15
Speaker
frustrating but amazing in all of the right ways. They're giving me reasons to come back in a way that not much of other content has been lately.
Anime Catch-up and Spoilers
00:01:26
Speaker
Marvel, DC, all those other people out there, I'm looking at you. But yeah, this has been a great stand-in for the past couple weeks to be really excited about.
00:01:35
Speaker
I'm glad you're feeling some level of frustration because you're the one who told me to watch the show and have left me hanging for three weeks now. So you deserve every bit of it. I do. I do deserve this. I am excited that we can finally talk about this again. We haven't been able to talk about it in gosh, almost two years now.
00:01:54
Speaker
And whenever Jujutsu Kaisen Zero came out, it would have been the last time that we properly got to sit down and talk about it on the air. We've talked about it off air, but this is a back to true to form anime nerds talking anime thing. Yeah, I think February was when the movie came out on streaming this year. It was February. Was it? And then it was like a year prior to that. Was that?
00:02:19
Speaker
Yeah, it was out of it was in theaters for a really long time because it was just once so much money around the world. Yeah, I mean, it made a lot of money and rightfully so this is I'm sure we're gonna talk plenty about the show how it compares to the movie how compares to the first season I don't want to get into spoilers or anything yet but like, it's top tier and I forgot how top tier it can be.
00:02:44
Speaker
So are those your quick thoughts on the first two episodes before we move on to other people's thoughts? Yeah, I'll let that be my quick thoughts because I definitely have more to say that gets into spoilers for both the season and the movie. And I feel like we need to preface for the people. If you unfortunately haven't seen the movie, it's probably going to come up as we talk about this season. It's not necessary to understand the season, so don't feel bad, but possible spoilers like
00:03:14
Speaker
are going to happen. Yeah, I definitely mentioned that a lot on the first solo episode that it did. It was just funny how the movie went back in time. So it's like we had a show in a current timeline that went back in time for a movie then went further back in time for a season two.
Narrative Style Comparison
00:03:34
Speaker
Like this is the Benjamin Button of anime right now it really is and I I don't know what to think of it because I don't know if this is where we're gonna stay for the entire season like What is actually happening? I know the manga gets crazy. Wait, so you don't know the lineup. I don't I have Specifically tried to stay away. So I don't know if a portion of this season we're going back to the future or if we're staying in the past the entire time I don't know what's happening and I'm like headed in the opener and
00:04:03
Speaker
It's five episodes of Gojo's past. So we got episode three, we got two more, and then it's 18 episodes of the next arc.
Episode Release Speculation
00:04:14
Speaker
Whoa, 18, geez. Are we getting them all at once? Are we about to be on a journey now? Well, I meant all at once.
00:04:23
Speaker
Are we getting spy family where we got 12 episodes, 12 episodes, or are we getting a hero academia where it was 12 episodes, week long break air quotes break 12 episodes like they haven't announced a break yet, but I fully anticipate a break. Yeah, I anticipate some break. It's a question of how long.
00:04:47
Speaker
But because I haven't looked at a calendar to see how far out 18 weeks goes, but if it hits the holiday season, it's called the end of the year. Yeah, I mean, if it hits the end of the year, then throughout holiday season, like there's got to be a break somewhere there. Yeah, let's we will keep you updated as we know more, but
00:05:11
Speaker
While you fidget, I'm going to read our feedback email that has to do with the first couple of episodes.
Listener Feedback
00:05:17
Speaker
So we have one from your good friend, Jillian. So happy to hear you guys are remembering JJK season two. This is an anime I was really looking forward to watching in 2023, since I watched the first season when it came out in 2020. I loved it too much and didn't have the patience to wait, so I picked up the manga and still kept up with it currently. I'm ready to give some spoiler free, wink, feedback from a manga reader perspective.
00:05:38
Speaker
There was two big differences I saw in the first episode. First was how much time they spent on Urahima and Mei Mei. In the manga they opened with Gojo testing Urahima with you crying and then quickly moved on from there. I really liked this edition because it was a nice intro for everybody to re-familiarize themselves with the JJK world. The second one was basketball scene with Gojo and Gato.
00:06:01
Speaker
This previously took place just in a classroom and was mainly dialogue. As you guys know MAPPA doesn't add stuff for no reason so I will say it's symbolism foreshadows future events. One final note relating to the differences in animation. I saw they have a new director for the season and that's why the animation style is different. Link below.
00:06:23
Speaker
When I first watched it, I thought it was to emphasize that it's a flashback, but I guess not. I'm excited to hear your thoughts about the future episodes as things start to pick up. Buckle for the ride, faithful listener, Jill.
Animation Changes Speculation
00:06:34
Speaker
I did not say Gill this time. That was a long time ago that you made that mistake, but it was very funny. Well, thank you, Gill. I've had the privilege of meeting her in person since then.
00:06:46
Speaker
Yes, wonderful friend of all of us. But yeah, I appreciate the notes on what's happening because I agree. Napa doesn't add things for no reason. So now it's interesting to keep up with what are all of the notes going to be? What have they changed? What have they flushed back out?
00:07:03
Speaker
Um, because as we get into spoiler talk, the biggest things I've got out of this episode is, or out of these couple of episodes, I love the characters. They've done a really good job of characterizing all of them endearing you to these characters. And I don't know if it's the fact that like, okay, I know.
00:07:21
Speaker
Gojo, I know Ghetto, I have experience with them from season one. So jumping into season two, it was just like back to more of the same. Whereas like season one, you had to really ramp up and it took a couple episodes where you're like, do I get this Isadori guy? Am I totally on board with this? Like, what's this Gojo guys deal? Whereas this season has just been ready to go into all of it.
00:07:44
Speaker
And then just more of like, wait, this happens before the movie. Oh God, this changes so many things. Like to get to see them in their prime. I'm loving the characters and knowing that they added things to make me do more of that. I want to say they were successful because I, not knowing that they were additions, I just thought it was great writing on the manga part. So it's actually great writing in a writer's room. So hats off to them.
Gojo and Ghetto's Relationship
00:08:06
Speaker
I don't think this is considered their prime. Yeah, it's weird. Very much to learning their techniques on this. Yeah.
00:08:15
Speaker
They're cocky, they're confident, they're more than capable, but no, we've seen them in their prime. This is not their prime. Maybe when I say that, it should be in their unrestrained form. It's very much, I'm just gonna let loose as much as possible, and they restrain it until they have to in the future, but now they're just throwing power around willy-nilly. Vail us at that.
00:08:43
Speaker
Yeah, it there's, there's definitely differences. But it's still like, watching Gojo be so cocky when he was already a cocky man is amazing. Oh, my God, he's such a treasure. Oh, I love him. The opening of this. We got to, we got to keep going because I have so many things. Just like the opening. And you know what you dive into? You dive into water.
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Return to Gojo's Character
00:13:14
Speaker
you know when this when this episode started and they were in the aquarium and you get to see like all that water and everything that are touching i was like oh my god this ad read is just writing itself right now literally i've read it really with my current statement
00:13:32
Speaker
We're too good at finding the transition points or really bad depending on your perspective of how these ad reads go. But we have fun. As long as people get a good laugh at it, it's a win. Well, I hope everything I said stays in the edit because that was too good of a moment for me to just go in with Gojo level confidence and forget what I'm saying. Speaking of Gojo. I'm not going into this if I don't have to. So everyone's going to hear that. Yep.
00:13:59
Speaker
We talk about Gojo level confidence and it is here in this episode. We're going to run through a quick synopsis and then we will be back with more of our thoughts with Hidden Inventory Part 3.
Episode Synopsis and Dynamics
00:14:12
Speaker
Amani demands to join Gojo and Ghetto on the rescue mission for Kuroi, wanting to avoid a hostage exchange situation. After the successful rescue from the religious group, Gojo tries to alleviate the tension by having them fly to Okinawa and go to the beach.
00:14:27
Speaker
While Amani enjoys her day, Ghetto questions Gojo, whether it is wise for the latter to stay up all night, two days in a row, all while having his six eyes active to watch for danger. Gojo reassures Ghetto that everything will be fine, since they are unbeatable together. The next day, the duo Amani and Kuroi
00:14:47
Speaker
or takes Amani and Kuroi to Tokyo Jutsu High. As soon as they enter the school barrier, Gojo deactivates the six eyes, allowing Toji to impale him from behind. Gojo instructs Ghetto to quickly take the girls to Tangen while he fights. After noticing that his six eyes and senses cannot provide any information on his opponent's techniques or movements, Gojo realizes that Toji has no curse energy at all, unlike normal humans, meaning that he was born with a heavenly restriction.
00:15:15
Speaker
Toji maneuvers around all of Gojo's attacks and uses a multitude of low-level curses to dispel Gojo's ability to even track the curse energy of Toji's curse tools. Gojo panics, thinking that Toji aimed to distract him from Amani, but Toji strikes with a special-grade curse tool that has the effect of forcefully deactivating active curse techniques it touches. Using that tool, Toji breaks through Infinity to viciously cut Gojo's chest open and stab him several times.
00:15:44
Speaker
After Amani says goodbye to Kuroi, Ghetto takes him to Tengen's underground lair. Ghetto questions whether she truly wants to be assimilated or to be reunited with Kuroi, something he and Gojo agreed to support her on under Yaga's secret suggestions. Just as she decides to keep living, Toji arrives and shoots her in the head, while boasting about killing Saturo Goji. Ghetto releases his cursed spirits to fight.
00:16:12
Speaker
All right, now that I've let it settle after this episode was really badass, but I could not get over how much like this consistency of giving us a cliffhanger and then rushing through it like none of it was terrible.
Cliffhangers Discussion
00:16:26
Speaker
Like it's it generally pissed me off this time because it's the second time they've done it. I do not appreciate it because it confuses the hell out of me.
00:16:34
Speaker
And this time it's like, Oh my God, Groovy got kidnapped. I'm going to have to do this. They start off the episode all intense and then they're just chilling at the beach. And they have to be like another flashback to be like, save her. And like, I was confused because season one, like Gato's secret base is at this beach that him and his special grade curses like teleport to. So I was like,
00:17:01
Speaker
How are they here? How did they get here? Why is she here? What is going on? The flow of that drove me absolutely bananas. I'm trying to watch my mouth right now, but I cannot stress how much that pissed me off when it started.
00:17:17
Speaker
Yeah, I have taken it as a storytelling choice. And again, Jill, I'm gonna call on you, please. If there is any more info, like do they do this in the manga? I would be very curious to know. That doesn't have to be an email. You can text me if you want to. It's dumb in the manga too. No, it has to be an email because we need more listener feedback.
00:17:34
Speaker
Okay, you heard it here first folks, write in emails to us animation, delivery podcast, gmail.com. But anyhow, I liked it as a storytelling tool when the episode opened, because I was just like, this is how Gojo would tell this backstory. This is how he would be like, oh, yeah, and we saved her. That's not the important part. Beach day, like that was my interpretation. And
00:17:56
Speaker
it almost made it more frustrating when they did flashback to be like, oh, here's how we saved her. Because I really just wanted that moment of, oh, no, we were good enough. We don't even need to tell you how easy it was to save her from this predicament. So it's a very interesting storytelling beat. But I think it's allowing for more of the episode because like you said, the back half of this episode was insane. And they're
00:18:22
Speaker
remarkably doing something that's very hard to do, and it's to get me to enjoy a prequel story when we know the future.
Maintaining Tension in a Prequel
00:18:30
Speaker
because here's the thing, we know Gojo's gonna live, yet I still had tension throughout this episode of how is he gonna win this fight, and that's rad. I don't know how they're doing it well, I don't know if it's just endearing me to these characters, but that's the story that I wanna know more of, and I'm okay with skipping some of the beats, but I do agree it can be frustrating if you're wanting this badass cliffhanger because this show's so confusing all the time, and maybe that's why I'm okay with it, is because I'm always confused.
00:18:58
Speaker
Here's another reason why it frustrates me because they had an awesome cliffhanger again with Gato and Toji. Are they going to start off the next episode and like this whole predicament just be over? Like I'm good to go and Toji's just like, you know, has his head in the ground. You see why I'm like frustrated? It's just I get why they're doing it, but like they're not.
00:19:23
Speaker
And this was we had we had this debate when we reviewed Jujutsu Kaisen zero of I watched the movie first and watch the show you watch the show then watch the movie. And the main reason that I enjoyed the fact that I watched the movie first was that the show did such a good job of mentioning events and planting these seeds that because I watched this movie first even though it came out after I knew what they were talking about.
00:19:52
Speaker
And now I'm at a point where it's like, I need these things to connect the pieces again. And I don't like thinking that hard in a 20 minute episode. Also knowing that it's a 20 minute episode of a five part arc that is going to end in two episodes. Like, okay, like.
00:20:07
Speaker
the relevant stuff is coming out but like when I'm sitting down and giddy and like ready to watch the show when they're confusing me to this extent right off the beginning like it just it ruins my mood for the rest of it oh I just gotta say I think that's what it is is this show is confusing all the time the mental energy that it takes to watch this show just to remember all of the names that they throw at you the powers that they just casually name drop and use it like at random times because I did you know the two girls were at the beginning
00:20:37
Speaker
Um, I knew who the one in the white- I can't remember their names off the top of the head. The money obsessed one? Or the kimono?
00:20:45
Speaker
No, the one in the white kimono, because she's the one that's with the sister school, and all of that. I can't remember for the life of me who the other one was. She's the one that has like a crazy braid in front of her face. Yes. And then I had to like, it was, I had to go back and look at the end of the season be like, Oh, yeah, that was who it was. But yeah, there's so many of these things. And I had the whole like, do we know who Tengen is? That was one of the big like, I can't
00:21:10
Speaker
freaking remember who half of these characters are. And, and I can't not picture Tendon as Tengen Uzo. I'm just like, cross over the century. Let's call this version of him. Yes, that's why he's so flashy over the years is because he just gets a new body every 500 years.
00:21:30
Speaker
And I've had fans of the show text and email me saying, we're so confused. What's going on here? Where's Itadorian? This and that. I was like, guys, it's a prequel. But it's like, had I not known that, I probably would have been confused too.
00:21:45
Speaker
are you talking about the movie or the I mean I just people who did not understand that this is back in time even though it started off with like 2006 I don't know I was about to say it starts off with 2006 ghetto doesn't have it the scar on his head Gojo looks very young and rambunctious so I do
00:22:05
Speaker
I understand the qualms, but there's just so many things going on and I think they're really expecting you to keep up. They are not holding your hand. One of my favorite moments where they didn't hold our hand in the first episode was Gojo listing off Digimon, which I then had to be like,
00:22:22
Speaker
go back and look them up and be like, wait, I think these are Digimon. And sure enough, that is someone did a like TikTok edit of like, oh, here's the Digimon just for all of you out there who don't know. And I'm just like, they're not holding your hand. They just casually threw. That's one of my things that I want to say about this episode. Where was Nanami the whole time? Because they threw out, oh, he's here. By the way, another beloved character from the first season, he showed up in Okinawa.
00:22:50
Speaker
Oh, his hair. I didn't recognize him. And then I was like, oh, oh, oh, wait a minute. Wait a minute. Hang on. Things are happening. But like, them mentioning he's there, I expected him to like, come save the day for Gojo. Nope, they just wanted to drop in a little sad emo boy for a couple moments to really make you remember that these characters exist. But it's
00:23:11
Speaker
It's fun, but frustrating because there you always have to be on alert when you're watching the show. Because if you look away for a minute, you may miss something important. Yeah. And that's why I said like I had to sit and process this for a little bit because I was pretty frustrated with that. But
00:23:31
Speaker
That's enough of the negatives.
Toji's Development and Animation Quality
00:23:33
Speaker
We can get back to this episode because Toji's character is so fascinating. This is another one, but they planted like so many seeds in season one that like once things started popping up with him, I was just kind of like, OK, that's why he's doing that's why he's doing that. So it's like I was trying to remember why he got kicked out of the Senon clan. Right. It was because he didn't have curse energy and that.
00:23:59
Speaker
energy just like maki yep um but then it's like just so awesome seeing like how badass he is with weapons like maki is yeah better like honestly no offense to maki maki's a badass character but he is absolutely coming out here and just tearing it up and
00:24:20
Speaker
Yeah, I don't know. It was... It feels like they have been very interesting with their budget this season because, like, as we joke, Mappa has no budget. It seems to be very much like they're taking regular scenes and making them, like, regular anime, but then the fight scenes, like, what they were doing with Toji was so over-the-top and amazingly animated that just, like, you felt the power of it. It's a sad episode.
00:24:49
Speaker
What was that? At least it was consistent this episode. If I wanted to get nitpicky, I could break, but I'm okay with how it was because you felt the power in every stroke of what he was doing. Every move he made, you were just like, there's muscle and mass moving around Gojo at all times.
00:25:12
Speaker
Yeah, so how have you felt about the animation? Jill did the lovely mention of it's a different director, which I didn't actually know. How are you feeling this season? Because personally, to me, it feels good. But when I hear Mappa, I think of like, what we've gotten out of Attack on Titan and the first season of the show. And I don't think we're there. Um, I think it's all over the place. I think
00:25:38
Speaker
episode one had like five or six different animation styles and it was like, can you guys just not decide? Like, are you trying all of them out and seeing which one works? And in this one, like, like you said, it was, it was a clean style with very minimal shading throughout the episode until the action started. And then it got heavily detailed, which is why I was fine with that. But like, I miss how consistent season one was, like,
00:26:07
Speaker
I was very impressed with the extravagancy of MAPPA, but I think now that I have a larger sample size, it's very hit or miss. And I think today's episode was a little more successful. Our episode one definitely have parts that I really like, but it's like, it's just too much stuff, like pick one and stick with it.
00:26:33
Speaker
Yeah, hopefully this does not mean they're as overworked as we have been fearing and joking that they are. But yeah, they're still doing phenomenal work. And I'm not going to make any complaints about it. I'm just going to compliment where it's really good. That's that's my goal. They did some phenomenal work at certain points. But the blood was definitely really detailed. Oh, my God. The intensity, the intensity of the that came out of me when friggin can't remember her name.
Amani's Death Scene
00:27:05
Speaker
Who? The girl that we're escorting. Amani. Amani? When she got shot in the head. Oh my. Smiling because it took a second to process. Yeah, like that was such a real raw response because he was still smiling because you're not going to immediately react to a gunshot.
00:27:29
Speaker
Oh my god, it was heartbreaking. Like I thought, okay, this is just our way out. They're gonna have to do some other new cool thing because they broke the rules, but whatever. Now this girl gets to go and live her life and that mixed with
00:27:42
Speaker
the score. Oh my god the music during her entire montage of I want to live my life I knew I was something special her drowning underwater but then coming up for air you just had this powerful welling and then it cutting immediately when it showed her body hit the ground because it didn't cut until after the gunshot when he realized it was like he had that music going on oh my
00:28:06
Speaker
absolutely flawless. I'm getting goosebumps thinking about it. But it was a visceral reaction that came out of me. I was like actually taken aback. Yeah, the way the music hit made it sound like the credits were about to roll in. And I know the beach stuff confused me before but it's like, once they showed that Gato and Gojo had this conversation about the scenario, the fact that
00:28:33
Speaker
the whole beach stuff and the aquarium and everything was basically Gojo like trying to influence her to take this option was just so beautiful and so like just the emotion of that was just so lovely and again like I thought the credits were about to start rolling and then dunk I'm just like oh my god yeah my last note is just like WTF ghetto about to pop off because he is not about to take this lightly after
00:29:02
Speaker
seemingly get that dragon next to the plane already because oh yeah that thing's gonna look sick that thing's amazing but like he was almost emotionless through a lot of the first couple episodes so to see him actually secretly having all of this emotion and then have it be ripped away oh he's about to go and i gotta say i know there's a lot of people out there and i'm about to be one of them that like ship gojo and ghetto
00:29:27
Speaker
I don't know if it's ghetto or ghetto. I apologize for that as well. There's a lot of people that ship them together and I gotta say their chemistry on screen and the tension between them is 100% a shippable. These two are like more than best friends. They've known each other forever, almost like brothers, but they are just immaculate together in the way that they trust each other. And it makes what we saw in JJK zero that much more brutal.
00:29:58
Speaker
Yep, that's why is his best friend. So he claimed all his only friend. His only friend. Yeah, I think like, I remember when we recorded that podcast, Jill was very mad at us because we never actually mentioned the way that that movie ended and the relation between the two of them. And it's like, because there was so much else to talk about. But now I can say that he was in season one.
00:30:21
Speaker
Yeah, you didn't know at the time. And like, you still never got that much interaction of like, you know, I mean, you really only finally saw his powers. Yeah. So now that we have this foresight, it makes it that much more impactful. And yeah, you joke it's Benjamin Button, but they're really doing an interesting form of backwards storytelling where they're slowly divulging to you why the things you've already seen matter. Yeah, because this is all going to be relevant for when they had this
00:30:50
Speaker
18 episode arc. And we don't even really know what that arc is gonna be. Like, I just know the name of it. And I know manga fans are flipping out for anime fans to finally see what they've been waiting for. Yes, I do know that the longest
00:31:12
Speaker
crazy and essentially turns into an elite novel at some point. So it's gonna be a lot to pack in on us. So be prepared to be more confused. Ladies, gentlemen, Jill, or other manga readers, please explain us what we're missing. No, no, no. I meant I meant retrospectively when we like sit here and we were scratching our heads trying to figure out what they didn't explain properly. Yeah, I'll take the comparisons.
00:31:41
Speaker
Yeah, I'll take the manga anime comparisons.
00:31:45
Speaker
to where we're at right now. Yeah, no, nothing. No one anything past what I already know. Nothing future. It's kind of like when you like. Very clear. It's like when I went to see Dune and realized how much of Dune I didn't understand when I then listened to the source pages coverage of the book after the fact, it was like, oh, this is information to have. That's what I kind of want is like, when you listen to us talk for 45 minutes about an episode that we didn't understand, and there's more material that might help us. I that's where I'm
00:32:15
Speaker
Because I have a feeling that might happen with this show because we're slow. Or at least I'm slow. I don't read quickly. It's a problem. Oh, coming back to sound design, the emphasis that they put on how long Gojo had been holding his barrier.
Sound Design in Gojo's Fight
00:32:35
Speaker
One of the things with the with the basketball, I think, yeah, Jill sent me this actually on Instagram.
00:32:44
Speaker
With the basketball, the reason that they added that scene in there was to show that he didn't learn how to have his barrier on him at all times. So the basketball didn't go close to him and then start slowing down. It actually hit his foot and bounced back.
00:33:01
Speaker
right so the fact that they put emphasis on gato saying like how long has it been since you slept and there's all the dialogue i'm gonna wait for of toji saying i'm gonna wait for him to get worn out and you actually be able to hear his power just go and then him get stabbed instantly like i love that sound design because like all right we feel like we're safe his power doesn't really have like sound to it ever
00:33:26
Speaker
So the fact that they actually threw that in there, like just for that audio cue was very well done. Yeah, honestly, to the point that I didn't even notice it, like as soon as you're pointing it out, I'm like, Oh, yeah, that was there. But it was so seamless. And it made sense for his power that you were just like, Yeah, of course. And they're like, Oh, he actually shut down like a computer and it was just like, Oh, yeah, was not expecting the stab through the chest. But I love that needle through a sweater.
00:33:56
Speaker
I do love the comparison point that he, like just pointing out that he never learned to keep it up all the time. Because as anime fans were so ingrained to that just being like, pretty much a magical MacGuffin.
00:34:14
Speaker
You haven't watched Hunter x Hunter, but it's a good example. Naruto, great example. Black Clover, they do it where they talk about, oh, you have your magical energy, your chi, whatever it is, there's usually a small arc somewhere, wherein the character learns to cover their whole body in the power of that world. And now for the rest of the show, it's really hard to hurt them because they're always
00:34:39
Speaker
protecting themselves with the magic energy that they have. And now we have this world where Gojo is one of the only people that can do this.
00:34:48
Speaker
We're used to, oh, they're going to always have that energy up. It's just going to be an instinct. It's going to be a thing happening in the background. So to have a actual vulnerable iteration of this power is super intriguing and refreshing and so opposed to what we're used to as anime fans. So I love that they made sure to point out, even if it was subtly in that basketball scene, point out that it's not always there and you have to deal with that. Yeah.
00:35:17
Speaker
There was also another interesting point in the movie when I rewatched it, that Gato said, that really has me thinking a lot whenever Gato and Gojo come up on scene, is that there's, I think it was 16 special grade curses and only four special grade sorcerers and three of them we've seen. Three special grade sorcerers, you're saying? Right. And that's what he said at the time of the movie.
00:35:47
Speaker
So there could be at the time of the movie, right? Yes. So there feasibly could be more in the show. Like I have it up right now. Okay, I'm just saying there could be more in the show. But the way that they've been very much talking about how, like the jutsu sorcerers are short handed, I doubt that's the case. But yeah, so who are the refresh my memory? Who are the three that we've seen? I don't want to know the fourth, just who are the
00:36:19
Speaker
Gojo, Gato, and Yuta. Oh, Gato was one at the time, or Gato, sorry. He was one at the time? Yep. That's why him and Gojo are an elite duo because they're two of the four special grade sorcerers. Okay. Okay. So yeah, we got work to do. We got to get these sorcerers up to snuff because they can only promote our students so high.
00:36:49
Speaker
Yeah, and having special grades is a very rare feat too, so. Yeah. Special grade curses. It's the whole thing. They can't be exercise special grades. Like they can only be contained. Isn't that the whole like part of it? I don't know. Kazuka is kind of the only one we've been able to go off of.
00:37:14
Speaker
Well, but there were also the other little things that were stolen in Season 1 that they fed to make the Three Brothers. Weren't those also special grades? Weren't those the fingers? No, they weren't fingers. They were something else. One of them definitely had a finger. So they took the three...
00:37:39
Speaker
they were almost embryos or something in the jars and they like fed them to three guys and turned them into three like curse user special grades. And then those three brothers, two of them went after one of Sukeno's fingers, which was that was the whole like mini arc right at the end of season one. But yeah, they were after a finger, they weren't born from the fingers. So that's where I'm like,
00:38:06
Speaker
I'm trying to remember, again, there's so much dialogue that confuses in this show, but I feel like there was some dialogue of, oh, they stole this from Jujutsu High because they can't destroy it, so it had to just
Complexity and Popularity of the Show
00:38:18
Speaker
be stored there. That was a crux of it, but that may have just been for that specific curse, maybe not all special trades.
00:38:24
Speaker
Yeah, I don't remember. I don't remember laughing when, um, when the one that Megumin knocked out, he got the finger from him and he was just like half deadlaying there. And when he didn't already like came to check on him, he just held the finger and he was like, all right, we're going to take this back in. And I think the door we just broke, my mouth just goes out of his hands and swallows it. And everyone was like, what the fuck just happened? Just like, oh, we need it. You know what we needed? We needed Anya Gong right there. Aww.
00:38:56
Speaker
Oh my gosh, that's just that level of surprise. Should have washed that finger down some liquid IV too. Ooh, that would have gone down real smooth. But just to say I did my frantic googling, as is my nature, a special grade cursed objects cannot be destroyed. So I'm right, but I don't know what constitutes an object. I have not done that much digging, but objects cannot be
00:39:23
Speaker
Probably just have cursed energy, but not souls. Yeah. Duh. I don't know, man. Cursed objects and cursed tools. Okay, there is a difference. I don't think I've ever, and I love this show. I've sung its praises. I don't think I've ever met a more popular show that's more complicated either.
00:39:50
Speaker
Like, usually when anime and TV and movies, like, what was that? Forman Alchemist. Confused the hell out of me when I was growing up. That's true. FMA is up there. It's just like, I feel like when a lot of shows- As you throw out these words, and I'm just like, what does this mean? Why is this relevant? When a lot of shows start to get that complicated, they drop off in popularity. So it's always interesting to me that this one, where the powers are so unexplained for so long, and even when they explain them, it doesn't make sense.
00:40:18
Speaker
It's popular. The only comparison I'll say, when you get to the APR episode of Hunter x Hunter, let me know because it's my favorite joke of animation never be complicated.
00:40:35
Speaker
That'll be a while, so I'll probably forget that. Yeah, it'll be about a... I think that's somewhere around episode 70, if I had to guess. I don't be allowed to start the series. Oh, so then. I got Secret Invasion on Wednesdays, Jujutsu Kaisen on Thursdays, Varoni Kenshin on Fridays, Bleach, Thousand Blood War on Saturdays. Hey, Secret Invasion, this is the last week coming up.
00:40:59
Speaker
still. Then you're free until Disney Plus decides to drop some other surprise thing. We gotta do a Rebels rewatch. Ahsoka's coming out. We gotta do a Rebels rewatch. We have so much San Diego Comic Con stuff to talk about that there's stuff we have to be prepared for like
00:41:20
Speaker
Don't want to spoil our evident news episode. We just did an episode on Black Clover, Sword of the Wizard King. Shout out to BBK for coming for that. We have Hailey coming soon. We're trying to schedule a date to do Star Wars Rebels, just kind of like a hype episode to get us ready for season five of Rebels, aka live action Ahsoka.
00:41:48
Speaker
We're doing weekly coverage of My Adventures with Superman. It is actually made with an anime studio, so it's been really exciting to watch. It's just such a public show. The action's good when it's there, but the animation, the storytelling, the characters, all of it is just so wonderful. And we're continuing our weekly coverage of Jujutsu Kaisen. So write in on all the socials, write in on our email. Love to hear reactions, love to hear what you guys are watching.
00:42:16
Speaker
Oh, anything I missed? No, I think you hit everything in my mental bank and stuff that we have going on. Cool. So that should be it for this week. Be sure to tune in next time. That's T-W-O-N-I-N. And as always, stay well. And until we get more Gojo, muscle muscle.
00:42:36
Speaker
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