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Young Justice Season 2 Ep 1-3
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Are coverage of Young Justice continues with our breakdown of the first 3 episodes of season 2 aka Invasion!
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Young Justice Season 2 Preview
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today on the animation deliberation podcast we're diving right into young justice season two after our coverage of young justice season one and in preparation for the soon to be announced young justice season four all of that right after these ads that we don't have any say
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One, two, three, it's time for animation deliberation. A conversation and a celebration of our favorite action animated series. Yeah. All right. Well folks, we are back. Uh, like I mentioned at the top of the show, hot off the heels of our coverage of young justice season one. We are here to cover the first three episodes of young justice season two, AKA young justice invasion and
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I'm so excited. Yes, yes. I am here. I'm your host, Jay Scottie St. Clair, and joining me is my co-host, Zuhair Ali. Zuhair, how are you, man? You've already expressed your excitement, so how you doing?
Young Justice Time Jump and Character Development
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I am ecstatic, not to time stamp this too much, but just finished the Snyderverse, just finished the first episode of Falcon and the Winter Soldier. I'm watching this for probably the fourth or fifth time and I'm still ecstatic from the first three episodes. Hell yeah. It's quite a time to be alive and quite a time to be a nerd and a fan of this stuff, so I'm right there with you between the Snyder Cut, Falcon and the Winter Soldier, and the show.
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adrenaline and excitement and emotions are all running high because I gotta say, man, this premiere, these three episodes, as much as I love them and being back in this world and seeing these characters, it was a little bittersweet for multiple reasons. Five years. A lot has happened in five years. Five years. And we pick up a full five years from the last time we saw these characters. Episode one is
Major Plot Changes in Young Justice Season 2
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Happy New Year. So the last time we were in the world of Young Justice, it was New Year's Eve and we just had, you know, the confrontation with Vandal Savage and the Justice League.
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being under his control but there were six members in particular that had a uh... sixteen-hour period that we did not know what happened i was kind of the cliffhanger of that season and they don't take very long at all to uh... to get into what exactly happened at sixteen hours but as we have kind of uh... done in the past i will provide you the opportunity as the resident expert and more experienced watcher of the show to kinda uh... go ahead and
00:03:35
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layout why you thought that these these three episodes i mean i obviously have my um suspicions about why why you chose these these three episodes to kind of kick off the season but go ahead and uh let me know what you what you're thinking so yeah um definitely spoiler alert it ended with the big reveal that uh black manta is aqualide cauldron
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we have the unveiling of what happened in the 16 hours we get a good idea of who's new to the team we get an awesome fight sequence of everybody working with their mentors which is one of my all-time favorite scenes in the show
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There was just way too much that happened in these three episodes to not focus on just the three of them because it was a lot to dive into. A lot of speculation on what happened in the last five years and what's to come. A lot of big things that happened at the League and them having to go on their trial. So it ended in a way and started in a way that was just like it's like its own little movie that needs to be talked about separately.
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The movie is a good comparison. It's definitely...
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As I stated with season one, you know, the show did a great job of like consistently building momentum and upping the ante.
Team Dynamics and New Characters
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As we spent more time with these characters, the stakes were consistently raised. And that goes right into season two. I mean, with the subtitle right there, invasion, things are already on a more like galactic scale. And you mentioned we do have a completely different team. And that's kind of one of the reasons that I describe it as bittersweet there.
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There are definitely some characters that I'm missing after spending so much time with them across season one. So off the top of my head, you correct me if I'm wrong here, but the two standouts for me that we did not get any mention of whatsoever that were integral parts of the team in season one were Kid Flash and Artemis. Am I wrong in that estimation there?
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Anybody? All I'll say is that there's a there's a lot more story to still be covered. This is kind of a big way just to focus on the members that were directly connected to their mentors that had to leave for the trial on ran. Okay. Now that we're now that that storyline has been dealt with, and we're dwelling more into what's happening with those teams will get the stories of
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other characters okay okay that makes sense uh... well and another aspect of the show that you had mentioned uh... when you recommended the show to me and i always have to thank you for recommending the show because it is some of the finest uh... animated content as well as some of the finest comic book material that i've had the pleasure to to watch um... is the connective threads to season one and it's it's like you mentioned there's nothing is there without purpose and it's even
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as simple as the transportation devices they use. The Zeta tubes come back in a big way. And that's another cool aspect of the show is they take these lesser known characters from the comics that people might not be as familiar with, and they do a great job of adapting them for a modern audience, just like the movies do. And as I mean, we just kind of, sorry to kind of do a little spin off here, but we did mention that the Snyder cut is out there and everything like that.
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that's going on. As much as I love the Snyder Cut, and I'm there for Restore the Snyderverse, I mention it in season one, but if they were to take inspiration for this series, as far as live action goes, it's, man, they're doing such an incredible job of adapting these characters. For this audience, I imagine it goes without saying, but yes, this show was originally created for a younger audience, but
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The nuance, the gravitas, the character development is all there, and we get some major shakeups. But let's get into some of the characters.
Mentorship and Leadership in Young Justice
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I already kind of mentioned the way they adapted Adam Strange, but we spent a significant amount of time with Robin in season one, and they do a great fakeout in the fight with Clayface.
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where Robin steps out of the shadows, but it's not the Robin that you think it is. It's a completely different outfit. The hairline's different, and then the voice is different. And it's the Tim Drake version of Robin that we find that the Robin that we spent time with
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has graduated to the role of Nightwing and still being voiced by Jesse McCartney, doing a great job. This is the Dick Grayson version of the character. Um, he has certainly stepped up into a leadership role, but we find that he has declined, uh, membership into the league forthright, even though there's apparently an open invitation for him. Uh, I know, I know this is one of your favorite characters, so why don't you kind of take the lead on this one, Zuhair?
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Uh, like I've said in the past, I don't really keep up with the comic book stuff too much. But in my attempt of reading at one point, I noticed that Nightwing has a new look in where it's just like kind of like a V like that goes down his shoulders. That's either like red or blue. Never been a fan of that. So I liked that they stuck with his awesome logo and they took away the mullet from the animated series and actually gave him with that shruggy hair. So it's like the design of like his armor and everything is fantastic.
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I like that he's double wielding the batons more because he really didn't see that outside of his fight with Batman in the last season. I guess he realized how proficient he was with it.
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Oh, so the armor looks great. I like the role that he's in how he has the league's respect in a really high regard right now. I even put in my notes for episode three. It's it was an interesting thing to see him giving orders to Superman, Aquaman and Batman. Oh, yeah, that's a great catch. And it wasn't like.
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Oh, hey, the kids told me what to do. It was Batman telling the other ones, you heard what he said, get to it. Uh, so you see that level of authority that he has, the level of respect that he has between the league and his new teammates. I guess he's like the den mother now. Like he takes over a red tornadoes role. Yeah, that's, I think that's pretty accurate.
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But he still has the quippy attitude. He's still goofy and whatnot. But as I'm sure you've gotten a hint on, a lot of things have happened in the last five years. And his mission focus is something that he just doesn't mess with now.
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Yeah, there are no no-welm jokes. He is still as quippy as he ever was, but there are no-welm jokes. We do get that great moment at the end of episode one. There's this great interaction between Nightwing and the Tim Drake version of Robin, where he basically kind of puts him in charge of his own little squad. And it's very reminiscent of a lot of the experiences that Robin had in season one.
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being you know having his first opportunity to lead a team out in the field and whatnot and at the end of the episode it's and again the the entire imagery with the whole league descending down upon these like three pretty fresh young heroes and you think it's going to be this like feeling of disappointment but then Nightwing just smiles and says way to get your feet wet kid it's like
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I'm glad that you brought that up because that was a huge thing. I love that it was the exact callback to season one where it was the gamma team. They were like, gamma team gets all the lame missions or the soft missions. And they were the ones who found the headquarters and had to like, they almost died there. It was just the three of them, Blue Beetle, Lagan, and Tim Drake's Robin.
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And at the end, like you said, everybody showed up because they managed to survive, like the biggest thing that happened that day. And it was just like, nice work, kid. It was a great callback. It was so well done. I loved it. I loved it. And I mean, beyond all that, you mentioned the suit. I mean, in five years, the guy has gone from a boy wonder to a man. He is a physically imposing... Wonder man.
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Yeah, Tim Drake was really impressive too. I put in my notes, I was like, Tim must have had one or two incredible mentors because damn, he's quick on his feet. His decision making skills were on point. He wasn't scared to sacrifice his life if it meant saving the captor.
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Abductees. The prisoners. Yeah, the abductees. I was like, captors isn't the word. The abductees and whatnot. So he's quick on his feet. He communicates with his team really well. Combat proficiency is fantastic. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it was really cool seeing... I mean, we don't know how long he's been on the team. Right.
00:12:57
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I want to say about a year or two because it's something else I don't want to distract from this and I'll talk about later. But yeah, like I don't think he's been here long, but he's been learning pretty quick. Yeah, without a doubt. He's definitely very, very proficient and it's actually, you know,
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Outside of that mission with Gamma Squad, I feel like some of the most significant time we get to spend with him is in Episode 3, and it's just kind of a really nice sequence for the entire Bat family. You get to see the Bat family perform like a stealth infiltration together, and they all do their thing. There's Batgirl there, there's Tim Drake Robin, there's Nightwing, and of course you got Bat.
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I was going to say, of course he's Batman, but forgive me, I was going to say Bat Daddy. That scene had me so giddy like seeing all four of them together was like...
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This is so cool. And man, the way they worked together was really neat, too. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Like Batman put the opening blow. Nightwing pass it on and the other two like one came from underneath the bridge and the other one out the door and just like hit him together. And then they hit that maneuver seven, which was a callback from the last season, too. Oh, yeah, I didn't catch that. Good.
00:14:13
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Yeah, it's always the same move one person has their hands out they jump on the foot and throw them out but it's something that like constantly comes up and maneuver seven is like the one thing they frequently use and Seeing the mix between how the bat family works and it how it translates into how the team works Throughout these five six years has been really neat
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Yeah, yeah. Well, I feel like that's a good opportunity to go ahead and highlight or actually, you know, on this while we're still talking about the the the Robins in the Bat family, I'll go back to Nightwing for a second because going back to episode three, outside of his, you know, that awesome sequence that we just discussed, he gets a really nice moment with
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this and it breaks my heart to bring this up you talked about at the top of the show we do get to spend some time with a long-standing aquaman villain black manta but there is a heartbreaking reveal in this episode that
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the leader of our team in season one, Aqualad, aka Calderom, has defected to the enemy. So Nightwing gets this really poignant moment with him where he had just confronted the entire team going up against him and he drops down to escape and Nightwing is waiting for him there.
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You can tell that he is prepared to fight his old friend, but his mission was a diplomatic and he wanted to bring his friend back. One of the major threads of season one was that
00:16:00
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Dick Grayson wanted to be like Batman, but it was important to both of them that he not become Batman. And I think that compassion and that motivation there was really telling, and that's a threat I'm going to be, excuse me, that's a threat I'm going to be paying close attention to.
00:16:20
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I'm on the subject of Nightwing here, but I mean, I have to bring up Calderon. I really hope he gets a redemptive arc here because he was one of my favorite characters coming out of season one.
00:16:31
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You still like him. I do, no. You said was. I'm glad you mentioned up to that point of like wanting to be like Batman initially and change. I feel like that new perspective that Dick developed is what made Tim as good as he is. Because you see that bleeding of effect of him caring about people right off the bat.
00:16:56
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and him having that effort of knowing how to work with the team efficiently. And I feel like when Dick was training him, that was a big part of how he was that there was that essence that he developed of not wanting to be exactly like Batman that bled off to him. Sure.
00:17:12
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I don't think Batman would ever admit it, but I feel like there's a part that actually kind of like went into the way Batman operates too. Okay. Could be, could not. I do like the way that Batman cares about his little family. Yeah. Like he was really worried about their wellbeing. He's like, I feel like you guys have the harder fight here than we do out there. Right. That was really, really heartfelt moment. And this was the first time we saw Batgirl since that Barbara Gordon
00:17:39
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Uh hint that I mentioned to you at gotham academy in season one, right? Yeah, that was just she was like, what was that about? Who is that? She was like, we'll laugh about it someday exactly. Yeah, no Yeah, like like I mentioned and you mentioned when we first started doing the show Nothing is without purpose and even The small small little moments like that come back to pay off. So that's a good opportunity to go ahead and transition into uh Batgirl herself. Uh, is it
00:18:07
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I guess, refresh my memory, I guess across that Gotham Academy appearance in season one, we pretty much get confirmation that this is the Barbara Gordon version of Batgirl, right? Yeah. Okay. Okay. So she didn't get the most screen time in these particular set of episodes, but her moments are impactful. She got outside of the
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already aforementioned stealth infiltration with the rest of her Bat family. She, in the opening episode, she actually gets to go head to head. We mentioned how being the subtitle Invasion, everything is on a more galactic scale. We actually get one of the more galactic characters from the DC universe in Lobo, who's basically a cosmic biker guy, cosmic biker bounty hunter.
00:19:01
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So she gets the opportunity to get a really cool action sequence with Wonder Girl where they take on Lobo. And I got a lot of men in black vibes from this scene. I don't know if you're a fan of that particular. There's actually, not to spin off too much here, but maybe down the road, there's actually a really, really good men in black animated series that came out in between the first and second film.
00:19:31
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That may have been what I watched more than the movies. Good. I knew I was in good company. Did you have anything you want to highlight for Barbara? You kind of already mentioned the
00:19:47
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Oh, not too much. I think she's kind of like she's she's aware of what she's capable of. Yeah. So she knew that Wonder Girl was with her. She was like, hey, I'm going to work on getting the official out of here. You got the muscles. Take care of that part. And I will be as stealthy as I can in my escape. Yeah. That's I mean, a showcasing of her intelligence and teamwork. Yeah. So.
00:20:07
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Yeah, there's not really too much to say about her at this point. It's one of those things where they were more highlighting that there are new people and where our familiar characters were heading. So we got 17 episodes to go.
00:20:25
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Yeah, well a character that I would I would probably Relate her to in a lot of ways that I just mentioned that she had the action sequence with was wonder girl It's another this new member of the team that we didn't necessarily spend a ton of time with but I felt like the moments that she did get were super impactful and super telling so in that action sequence with Lobo, I love the
00:20:51
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he kept calling her a kisi femme and she's like kisi femme yeah i've been called worse i think that was so adorable of her and then like she's trying to be tough and she's just like wait what does that mean like i hate to say it forgive me for using this term specifically but it's like she had her blonde moment at the same time yeah you're good but my favorite scene for her was um
00:21:19
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when she was watching Wonder Woman just kick ass. And I was like, man, she's being such a fan girl right now. And that's exactly what Diana said when she was blocking the block. She was like, less fan girl, more Wonder Girl. And then you see her step up. And I was like, this is so cool. I love seeing everybody with their mentors. Yeah, that was a particularly great moment in terms of showcasing the action. Because right before that, we saw the reason she was in such awe is because Wonder Woman was basically able to lift
00:21:49
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one of these, uh, Kroll, Krollo, Krollotan, Krollotan. Yes. I wrote it down. It's more difficult to, uh, unless you're hearing it spoken out loud. So I'm glad you got the pronunciation there. Krollo. I may have been practicing that before I recorded. I don't doubt it. Um, yeah. Anyway, she uses the Lasso of Truth to basically lift one of these Krollo Tann tanks and, and slam it.
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where when Wonder Girl attempts to do the same, she doesn't have the same level of strength, so instead she snaps the head off, but then she basically uses that as a projectile to launch right back at. I was like, oh, hell yeah, this is awesome. And then Diana... And we talked about this... Sorry, go ahead. I was just gonna say, Diana cracks a smile. She doesn't give any words of affirmation, but she smiles and she's like, alright, she approves.
00:22:34
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It's like, I know I'm cool. What were you saying, though? We established off of our recording that since these Krolotains are thieves, apparently they stole the cannons off Thai fighters because they sound exactly the same. Yes. Yes, they did. Yeah. That was Star Wars Universe confirmed. Yeah, that was in the second episode in particular. They're on the jungle planet of Ranagar, if I'm not mistaken.
00:23:03
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Yeah. Those same tanks were used in that final fight in episode three? Yeah, I guess this is kind of a good opportunity to kind of, I feel like we should lay out some of the like plot lines. So I mentioned Adam Strange at the top. Apparently what's happened is the same technology that they've been using to teleport
00:23:27
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the various places that the league needs to go, has been stolen by this race of thieving beings called the Krolotayans. And Adam Strange accidentally gets transported to the planet of Ran, where he comes in contact with a Ranian scientist who is actually working on teleportation technology, even though it's forbidden in that region. And that's where we actually get the through line that we find out what happened.
00:23:56
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where we get the through line and we find out what happened during the 16 hours that the six Leaguers were missing. And just to kind of recap, those members were Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, Martian Manhunter, Hot Girl, and the Jon Stewart version of Green Lantern. So certainly not any lack of heavy hitters by any means there.
00:24:20
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Apparently they just they just rampaged on a planet called Rim, Rimbon? Rimbon. Okay. So that's kind of the the thrust going forward. They, the various teams that split up to either hunt down the Kroloteans or travel to the planet. Rimbor! Sorry! Rimbor. Okay. Rimbor. No, no, you're good. You're good. Thanks for that correction. The planet Rimbor.
00:24:50
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Uh, but as I was saying, yeah, it's, it's basically, that's the main narrative thrust going forward. The teams, uh, the team is divided up into squads that are either hunting down Krolotayans on earth or traveling to the planet of Rand to, um, you know, assist this, uh, this doctor.
00:25:11
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Yeah, Vandal kind of lives up to his name of being a savage and like yeah Getting the leak to just kill people Pretty much. Yeah, I mean this was a cartoon network show So they're not gonna straight-up say that they were killing people, but it's like they got blood on their hands This that's really dark when you actually think about it. Yeah, you get they don't obviously don't go to gratuitous with it but you do get that scene of them basically laying waste to
00:25:36
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Entire, you know civilizations and then the other thing I liked a little hint of when they said that they sent Hal Jordan and got was a Guy Gardner Green Lanterns to like make sure that they knew that they were coming in peace and that they were going there to get a free trial and all that to show the relationship that they have with the whole Lantern Corps within the other regions as well
00:25:58
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Right, yeah, because John Stewart obviously couldn't go himself. Yeah. But I guess the other thing about it was while they were under Vandal Savage control and doing these things, they basically broadcast everybody, hey, we are the Justice League, we are from Earth. So that's what got them outlawed in this entire region of space and brought them to the Krolotayans' attention in the first place. So we do get these various teams,
00:26:27
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One of the teams that's definitely worth highlighting that we already spoke on the person that was leading those teams, Tim Drake's Robin, he leads Gamma, Gamma Squad, and that features a couple of new players that I had a lot of fun with. I won't say they're my favorite characters, but they're certainly fun characters. We get, now, help me on the pronunciation here again. Is it Ligon? Yeah, Ligon. Okay, Ligon, aka Lagoonboy, who is obviously
00:26:56
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a full fledged Atlantean with the gills and the catfish-like features and everything. Very cool characters design, very interesting to look at. And then we get the- And this Martians into that kind of thing too. Oh yeah, yeah, that's definitely worth noting. Yeah, let's go ahead and get into him. I was going to mention Blue Beetle as well, but let's go ahead and dive into Legan.
00:27:19
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You're saying lagoon, it's lagoon. When I heard McGann, I can't help it. I can't help myself. Yeah, he's apparently the new fill-in for the Aquaman minty or sidekick, if you will. They don't like being called that.
00:27:43
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And he's got this relationship with Miss Martian that we don't get too, too deep into, but apparently one of his terms of endearment for her is Angelfish, which I appreciate. That's kind of cute. I do feel like they kind of set the character up to be extremely unlikable in the fact that we were coming off of season one, we were used to seeing Superboy and McGann together. And then there's like, okay, who's this guy?
00:28:10
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Yeah, he's a new member of the team number one and he's kind of budding into this relationship And then he was kind of talking crap about being on gamma squad as well So it's kind of like who is this cock sure fish face dude exactly. Yep. Yeah
00:28:26
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I do love the level of respect he has for Aquaman as well. The douchey tone that he has with everybody else really goes out the window or out the submarine when it comes to talking to his king. That's true. He evokes Calderon from season one when he's like, together my king, and they force open the door there. And then when they actually confront Calderon,
00:28:54
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He, whereas the other people were kind of willing to, even Aquaman's like, I didn't believe it was true when Nightwing told me, but now that I'm seeing it with my own eyes, and Legan's just kind of like, let's cut the crap. This guy's a traitor. This dude betrayed my king. Let's take him out. Which isn't, you know, I think he kind of...
00:29:18
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No, I'm kind of struggling for what I was going to say there. He didn't really voice how I was feeling. He voiced the passion that I was feeling. I really did feel betrayed. I called her, but like I said, I want to see that redemptive arc first and foremost. Well, we mentioned McGann. Do you want to go ahead and tackle her? She's definitely a character that we got to actually spend a little more significant time with.
00:29:45
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can we bring up one last thing for of course please can we talk about the fact that he's really upset at the fact that tula got killed yes yes and that she was an awkward girl for a while yes yeah that just we get that backstory entirely through dialogue yeah good catch
00:30:03
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because I knew that happened and I thought that it was mentioned later in the series so I was really happy that they brought it up early so I could mention it but it's like we knew how much love he had for that character and like I said like that's anything that felt like a filler episode in season one was like
00:30:21
Speaker
No, we're building for future things. And this is one of those things we understand the the affection he had for her and the fact that he was so hurt and so betrayed for an event that caused her death. And to find out that I totally forgot about this, that Aquaman was hiding from him. His parents that Black Manta was his father. Right. Right. And that was one of the things with my limited comic book knowledge, I actually did know that about the characters. So I didn't.
00:30:50
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It still didn't make the reveal any less effective for me. It was kind of like a feeling of dread. I just assumed it was the regular Black Manta because we saw him once in the same episode that we got to see Kaldor return home and get to spend some time in Atlantis. And we got to see Garth and Tula. And you know, he was feeling torn between the two worlds. He doesn't feel torn anymore. He's pretty dedicated to the current cause.
00:31:20
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I can only describe it as heartbreaking. I always praise the animators and the animation style. I do feel like in Season 2, I appreciate that they've made some of the designs a little more distinct. I feel like you can tell the difference between some characters more. But I want to bring up the voice acting. He did such a good job.
00:31:41
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such an incredible job of broadcasting that heartbreak. Like I really felt for him when he was like, how dare you question me when you're the people that let Tula die. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he's a really composed character too. So for him to have an outburst like that, especially when he's in like commander mode two was just man, it was, it was heart heartbreaking.
00:32:04
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He sounds really cool in the helmet. Yeah, he does. But I do have to say, the episode that you mentioned, I think when we were recording, you were like, oh, in the comics, isn't that his father or something? And I was like... Just keep watching, just keep watching. But yeah, was there anything else you wanted to hit on with Calder there?
00:32:34
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Yeah, no, we can move over to McGahn. Okay, right on. Break my heart. Well, speaking of heartbreakers, they did a good job of, I'll just go ahead and say from the top, I think when we bring up the character of McGahn, we're probably going to end up discussing both Superboy and Beast Boy. So those will probably be natural transitions there. But, you know, coming off of speaking about
00:33:04
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Lagoon boy. I'm going to call him that so I don't say his name wrong. Obviously, I mean, one of the major through lines for her character in this set of episodes is she is assigned to Zeta squad, which gets to go to Rand, or not Rand, Rand.
00:33:24
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And she, you know, she serves, she's always one of the most critical characters in terms of power level. And we got that hinted to a lot in season one in terms of her ability as a psychic and whatnot. But just in terms of being on an alien planet and having that ability to instantly translate. And Adam Strange, a guy who had spent months trying to build the smallest level of communication with these people,
00:33:52
Speaker
suddenly the doors are blown wide open and they are able to have like full-on conversations and uh... really cool to see he misses the charades though yeah uh... outside of the the functionality that she's she serves on the team uh... i think it's pretty clear that she still has some feelings for connor and it's played at the beginning that she is you know fully invested in her relationship with uh...
00:34:24
Speaker
Ligon. Ligon. Ligon. Ligon. I'm going to keep trying until I get it right. Ligon. She's fully invested in her relationship with Ligon.
00:34:32
Speaker
as the episodes kind of transpire where Superboy was kind of shown to be the one that was not over it. And maybe in a worse place, we find out that he was actually the one that broke up with her. And as she spends more time with him on this mission, she shows more and more affection with him. Like, especially when she got knocked out and she comes to, I mean, he is the one that rescues her, but the way she says Connor, like definitely struck a chord with me. Like that wasn't just a, you know,
00:34:59
Speaker
That was, there was love in that. Oh, for sure. Yeah. Well, uh, did you have anything else you want to say about Megan before we move on to like her relationship with Beast Boy? Um,
00:35:14
Speaker
the the important thing of she's getting really cocky with the fact that she has these immense psychic powers because she interrogated two croatians to the point that they were comatose after yes i'm very glad that was insane like i'm not a big fan of those things but the way they screamed and just started drooling and were like practically brain dead afterwards like
00:35:38
Speaker
Batman was trying to explain the situation just like just yeah, let me just mind fuck. I'm real quick and like that was little heart and you see Connor infuriated by that. So this isn't the first time thing
00:35:54
Speaker
Right. It was very reminiscent of what she did to Simon back in season one where they had the mental, mental scape battle. And she basically blew a hole through his chest in the mental scape or the astral plane, what have you. And when he came back, he was basically reduced to that Katonic state. So.
00:36:13
Speaker
Very glad that you brought that up. That is certainly something to pay attention to. And as much as Connor has infuriated, I noticed Alana, who is the alien... She's an inhabitant of Ranch. She's Zardak's daughter who accompanies them on this mission as kind of their...
00:36:34
Speaker
their jungle guide, she is visibly horrified by what Magan does to that Krolotan. So. Connor even says at one point, she was like, I can do this by myself. He was like, can you? Like I do need to come with you because I don't trust you right now. So yeah, this definitely isn't the first probably last time think this thing has happened. Yeah. Well, we'll have to keep an eye on that. I mean, we got,
00:37:01
Speaker
I'd kind of be remiss if I didn't mention the fact that Batman stated that I think Martian Manhunter had been working at it for a significant amount of time and was only able to establish like
00:37:11
Speaker
He was still having a hard time just doing basic translation, and she's able to knock it out before he's done finishing his sentence. We knew she was a much more accurate man. She found out that he was the officer that bribed the dude, that found out about what the Justice League did. She got so much information. She got information from stuff that happened five years ago.
00:37:35
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, she's certainly gonna be one to keep an eye on. She's certainly got a lot of pathos and...
00:37:46
Speaker
I don't know. As much as we talk about the conflicted nature there, she does seem a lot more sure of herself than she did in season one, even not being in the relationship with Connor and knowing that she was dumped by him. He said it was for her own good, so I'm kind of curious to see where that goes, but she's got the shorter hairdo. She seems more comfortable on Earth.
00:38:13
Speaker
She's comfortable in leadership positions too. Yeah, that too. That too. It's awesome to see. Yeah. But one of my favorite, favorite, favorite things across these three episodes, like stand out at the moment for me and the entire show.
00:38:30
Speaker
She's got this relationship with Beast Boy and like I'm familiar with the character of Beast Boy He's been a long-standing member of the Teen Titans. So he's obviously got this associated with he's yeah, he's got this association with young heroes in the DC universe, but they do and I guess I should say I should say at the top the reason I bring this up is because McGann has this relationship with Beast Boy It's a brother-sister relationship
00:38:58
Speaker
which I should have picked up on but they do this reveal so freaking well and the hints are so subtle that when the moment finally happens oh my goodness it was so freaking well done like my jaw dropped and I was like oh how did I not see this coming they were
00:39:15
Speaker
all these little hints here the whole entire time and like the build up to it is so great like she just comes up behind him and hugs him and I'm like oh this is like really affectionate between team members I'm like I never remembered like Beast Boy having this relationship with Miss Martian that in any other series and it's like
00:39:34
Speaker
He goes down to the waterfall and freezes up and she reads his mind and we find out, boom, he is Gar from season one, that episode image when they were in Bialia and we find out why she says hello Megan in the first place and yeah, oh my goodness. Her blood transfusion that caused his eyes to change color.
00:39:57
Speaker
gave him his powers. That's how we got Beast Boy in this universe. That is so freaking cool and I love it so much. I was so worried that I was going to give it away when I told you a few episodes. Like, hey, did you notice his eyes turn green after the transfusion? You were like, oh yeah, interesting. That's something I can track. I'm like, okay, cool. I didn't ruin it for him. Oh, man.
00:40:19
Speaker
and they just they hit it so well because like he has this habit of kind of like uh... existing in this like half human half monkey form or he gets these long shaggy sideburns and he's got the tail and everything like that with you that you want would be spool you kind of want to lean into the b side of it but when he has that that moment worries he's kind of reflecting on what happens his mom he completely reverts back to that little boy state and other than the fact that he's green he he looks just like darth did and uh...
00:40:48
Speaker
man he's even just across three episodes he's such a great character already he's he's the little brother he's i love how he is uh as much as i'm missing kid flash it's nice to see him step into that role as the uh was the person who collects souvenirs yeah so yeah night we night we look what i got
00:41:08
Speaker
i mean you mentioned um the monkey i do have to pull the line when superboy was like you might change my mind about monkeys yet dude that was and then chucks his gorilla into a bunch of turrets and i was like this is so cool that yeah that was an incredible moment because it played so well because uh what does he say he's like you game he's like oh i'm a big game and he throws him up to the ship and i'm like
00:41:32
Speaker
If they don't say something about hating monkeys here in the next couple seconds, I'm going to be a little disappointed and then boom, just like you said, you might change my mind about monkeys yet, kid. I still love the fact that he still refers to apes as monkeys, even though apes are clearly not monkeys.
00:41:50
Speaker
i like that that beast boy was studying the ran species as well yes like um transforming into those because when they were in disguise on the train like he was just one of the native birds right right that little like lizard bird thing yeah yeah it was definitely cool and then him being the little kid that he is like rushes into the jungle and sees a pretty flower and
00:42:16
Speaker
almost dives headfirst into like some acidic quicksand. Which caught on fire. Yeah, which comes back to play. They're able to use that to their advantage and basically disable one of the Krolotayan tanks that way. So nice little moments. Yeah, they always do those sweet little moments like that. But just kind of perusing through.
00:42:42
Speaker
Well, we mentioned Superboy in terms of his relationship to McGahn, and he was certainly a member of this Zeta squad. He had that moment with Beast Boy there. That was pretty great. But we get another reveal with him during his time on this alien planet. He gets a nice character moment with Alanna, the daughter of Sardak, where she's like,
00:43:09
Speaker
She can tell that there was a relationship between him and McGann. She's like, oh, how long were you guys together? And he, you know, being the kind of cold and distant character that he typically is, kind of rebuffs her, but then she kind of says exactly what needs to be said. Hey, you're never going to see me again. And chances are we won't even be able to communicate if we did. If ever there was a confidant, it's me.
00:43:33
Speaker
So, really cool character moment. We get the reveal that he can't physically age.
00:43:41
Speaker
as a side effect of his cloning, which he describes as a blessing and it's cursed. It's like, oh yeah, you're stuck looking this good for all your days. I didn't pick up on, was that part of the reason that he chose to break it off with McGann? Because she is obviously physically matured, even though, what was it last season we found out she was what, a 47 year old in, is that right? 37, 47, something around? Yeah, I think she was close to her fifties.
00:44:11
Speaker
Okay. So she's probably like in her fifties now. Yeah. But was the, was the physical aging, was that an aspect of why he broke up? Was that, was that, I don't know. It's just, it's just something we'll see as we go. Okay. Okay. Fair enough. It wasn't there. I feel like there was a joke in the last season about like, Oh, it makes sense. You guys are dating because she's a shape shifter.
00:44:37
Speaker
Hmm, I vaguely remember something like that. Okay, but yeah, there's there's a lot to it Well, I think that that kind of cover was there anything else you want to say about Superboy
00:44:49
Speaker
Uh, he, we finally get to see him work side by side with Superman in a relationship. He calls him his little brother. Hell yes. Yes. So good. He pulls a triple threat. And I mean, like, he's just kind of like, all right, yeah, I can't fly. And Superman just chucks him into the mecca tanks and knocks out for him. He's like, Ooh, a quad. Great job. Like triple combo quadruple combo. Nice.
00:45:15
Speaker
I also, it's not Superboy, but I love that moment when Cauldron was about to fire the missile at Dick and Superman just casually just like flings right in front of it. Yep, yep.
00:45:28
Speaker
I'm just really happy for them to finally get to start developing a relationship. Definitely. After season one, I mentioned it a few times, it was so weird and kind of off-putting to see this version of Superman that was just not having anything to do with Connor. Did I hear this wrong? Did he call him Con-El?
00:45:48
Speaker
I was just about to bring that up. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, that was so good. Yeah. It's like basically, yeah, he called him little brother, but he has like fully accepted him as a member of his family. That's, that's awesome. Yeah. Yeah. It's really beautiful moments. The show's full of them. So again, thanks for your stellar recommendation. Um, I think that, that kind of hits everybody for Zeta team, unless I'm leaving anybody off the table you want to hit.
00:46:16
Speaker
I cut you off when you wanted to bring up Blue Beetle. Oh, yeah, I was kind of gonna circle back to him being a member of Gamma Squad and we spent more time with him in the first episode, but then we also got a little
00:46:28
Speaker
Um, seen with him in the opening of episode three, but this was a character that I had a little more familiarity with as well as in terms of like the new people. Um, there have been, okay. Not you. That's a, uh, blue beetle is a legacy character. There have been, uh, three different versions of him throughout the comic runs, Ted cord.
00:46:48
Speaker
was kind of the first one and the most prominent one. There have been lots of references to Chord. In the Aeroverse. Yeah, Chord Industries. Exactly. You'd see the crates for Chord Industries and stuff like that sprinkled throughout the Aeroverse and whatnot. But Jaime Reyes is the most recent version of Blue Beetle and he's definitely the most far out there. His power set basically
00:47:11
Speaker
this is probably something I'm sure they'll dive into the show so I won't spend too too much time on it but I know his powers are derived from basically an alien scarab that found its way to earth and so you get these these awesome moments where he's like talking to himself and like he even uh he even like makes Robin Tim Drake Robin look uncomfortable for a second he's like
00:47:31
Speaker
Can we trust this guy? He's basically having an argument with himself. No, it would not have been wiser to neutralize him when you were in the cafe. Exactly. Yeah. I feel like he's definitely kind of filling that kid flash role where Beast Boy was being the souvenir aspect of that character. Blue Beetle has definitely got a lot of good laughs. I love the banner between him and
00:48:01
Speaker
Lagoon boy. Why am I having such a time with lagoon? There you go. Lagoon. I got it. The banter between them in terms of how easy or difficult the mission was supposed to be was pretty great. Yeah.
00:48:19
Speaker
Just cool to see some of these more out there characters brought into the fold. What were some of your key takeaways from Blue Beetle? You said you weren't familiar with the character at all. Yeah, I didn't know anything about him beforehand, but I'm pretty sure that was my thought too. It's like, is he talking to somebody inside of the suit? Is there AI or something running in there? Why doesn't he just tell the team that there's somebody he's talking to? That seems to be a weird thing that his teammates don't know about if it's something he's been dealing with for a while. Right, right.
00:48:49
Speaker
But yeah, it's cool. It's very cyborg like where weapons kind of come out when he needs it and he can scan and fly and shoot and he can change languages just off of a little bit of analysis. Oh, yeah. My big thing off of him was that when the Kralitan saw him, they were terrified. There's something about the scarab that they're familiar with. Yes. Yeah. That's a good catch because yeah.
00:49:17
Speaker
uh... we got is down there on the ground saying they don't like you know i'm a little jealous that he said that he has a little miscommunication with the uh... the scare is a lot is like come on man i suppose joe's don't say it again that that that that that that that talking to you uh...
00:49:38
Speaker
Yeah, I think that covers most of the major players. We did get into my universe is mixed up. I know it's not a wasp. What was his partner's name? Oh, yeah, I was I was gonna bring her up. Yeah, so we will be yeah, bumblebee. I do feel like we hit most of the major players, but we did get some smatterings and some introductions to some
00:50:03
Speaker
some other new members of the team. And yeah, Bumblebee was a cool one. She definitely does evoke feelings of Wasp. And there was a brief second where I thought she was Rocket for a second until we saw Rocket again.
00:50:17
Speaker
and knew that Rocket was now on the league. But Bumblebee is another one that we've seen before. Did we? Her and the big guy that she was with that was like, hey, so you want to hang out? And I was like, no, I got to work with Dr. Palmer, which I know is Adam. So I was really happy when I caught that reference. Yes. So you can tell because of her shrinking ability, she's worked with Dr. Palmer before and probably to where the suit came from.
00:50:43
Speaker
But she showed up in the Halloween episode and when Megan was auditioning for cheerleader, she was the girl. So the guy initially was wearing a Superman shirt and Connor was like pissed about it and she was actually dressed up as a bumblebee or whatever for Halloween. Good catch. I remember the guy a little bit more because he did have that moment with Superboy where Superboy gave him the stink eye.
00:51:11
Speaker
Yeah, he was like because he said what superboy Superman done, right or something like that. I Think is what he said. I think you call himself black Superman What was that character's name was a was it Kate or cave? He basically kind of served as like the Oracle where he was the the guy in the chair kind of, you know Communicating between the various squads because we found out, you know alpha alpha and
00:51:37
Speaker
Alpha and Beta Squad accomplished their missions pretty easily, which is why Gamma Squad ended up becoming the focal point for us. But she was a member of the team that Beta Squad consisted of Bumblebee, Batgirl, and Wolf. And I guess they investigated
00:51:58
Speaker
Cro-To-Loans and Vlata stock, which is a country I'm not familiar with, but maybe we'll spend some more time there. Nice to see Wolf. Wolf seemed like he's got a little bit older because I noticed there was that moment where Superboy was returning, and while McGann and
00:52:15
Speaker
uh late leg on there you go i don't know why that's so difficult for me especially after saying the game it's the worst one to do it after uh basically after they you know they were making out and he walks past wolf goes to rise but then he just kind of slumps back down when he sees nobody's acknowledging like oh you're you're an old dog now oh he's running on doggy ears yeah yeah
00:52:37
Speaker
Yeah, I'm definitely curious to spend more time with those characters. They're not ones that I'm familiar with in any capacity whatsoever. The show really has opened the doors wide open and it's kind of like...
00:52:53
Speaker
As much as we saw the team have that natural progression where they got to interact with the league more and more as they became their own, it's like, okay, we did that in season one. Now we are just like in the DC universe. This team is an established thing that frequently works with the justice league. Yeah. So really excited to see where it goes from here. Um, I'm just going to kind of peruse my notes and make sure there wasn't any, Oh, okay. Yeah. I'm glad I did that because Lobo.
00:53:23
Speaker
Lobo, in episode one, mentions that he's completing a contract for the main man, and that we hear the Crota-Laeans say again, the main man. What'd I say? You said Crota-Laeans.
00:53:41
Speaker
Man, I'm on a tear there. I have the episode guide up and it's like written in blue. So I have like a visual reference That's hilarious I've got it up too. I'm still messing up. I've got it written down as well Where was I even going with that? Okay. Yeah. Yeah, they mentioned the main man and the competitor as well And that's something that rubs them the wrong way. So I imagine as much as the light
00:54:07
Speaker
which actually ends up popping up again. I'll get back more on that later. I'm curious to see who this main man is, why Lobo was working with him, and why the Krollo-Tayans, not Krollo-Lans, are so scared of this benefactor. Yeah, I saw it. I wondered about it. I wrote in on my notes to ask you, and before we started recording, I remembered what it was. I was like, I'm just gonna let J. Scottie speculate. Okay, okay.
00:54:38
Speaker
I know Lobo is an anti-hero in the comics, so I'm trying to rack my brain here. Who could the main man be? I'm just gonna go out on a limb and I'm gonna say... I'm gonna go Sinestro.
00:54:55
Speaker
because I think there is the fact that the league members are going. I guess that's a good opportunity to kind of say where we left off on these three episodes. We've already kind of mentioned the six leaguers that have been accused of these heinous galactic crimes all depart to go take place in a trial.
00:55:17
Speaker
I'm guessing and that involves the Green Lantern Corps and or excuse me the Lantern Corps in general as well as the Guardians or the Guardians of the Universe. Yeah, I have no idea who the Guardians of the Universe are too. So there's this group and the Green Lantern Corps. Yeah. So I'm just I know in the past Sinestro has kind of been a thorn on the side and those kind of things. So that's just my
00:55:43
Speaker
Guess right now nothing really solid to found that on other than the fact that it's got to be a cosmic intergalactic threat But on that on that note On the subject of the leaguers going to space another another thing I picked up on is Wonder Woman just kind of casually says apparently icon has experience with galactic trials So
00:56:09
Speaker
Yeah, I don't know too much about Icon. Nor do I. He had some dialogue in the last two episodes of last season, too, where it's just like, what do you do exactly?
00:56:19
Speaker
Yeah, I know he is one of those characters that if I'm not mistaken, transitioned from, I guess I probably shouldn't speak on it because I can't remember the name of the comic line, but it's basically the same comic line that did like static shock and stuff like that. They were able to incorporate those characters into the DC universe after the fact. I think he is the first of those characters if I'm not mistaken.
00:56:48
Speaker
But outside of that, unfortunately, I don't know too much about the character other than he's kind of a Superman type as hinted in season one where I guess they said Superman thought he was a Kryptonian at first. Yeah. So I just pulled up his fandom article. OK. Icon is a superhero of extraterrestrial origin, partner and mentor to Rocket and a member of the Justice League. Powers include super strength, flight, and vulnerability in pulse blasts. OK.
00:57:19
Speaker
flight and vulnerability, super strength and what was it pulse blasts? Yeah. Okay. Interesting. I mean, that being said, if you need to transition to anything, Rocket and Zetana are Justice League members now. Yeah. I love those characters and they were kind of late additions to the team in season one. So nice to see them graduate and you know,
00:57:46
Speaker
uh, be given that, that recognition, that level of responsibility, but kind of makes you wonder why Nightwing decided to stay where he's at, but he's, he said he was happy where he's at and he genuinely seems happy where he's at. So, um, yeah, I'm, I'll be curious to see what other former members that we haven't seen again, cough, cough, kid, flash Artemis, where are you? What are you doing to me?
00:58:13
Speaker
Yeah, I'm wondering if Dickens and Tana are still in a relationship or something to just move on from. Okay. I'm also wondering if he wants to stay on the team because he wants to catch Carter himself. Oh, you see, you see the energy that Lagann has towards him. Right.
00:58:33
Speaker
So maybe Dick needs to kind of be the voice of reason because even though Connor has matured quite a bit. Yeah, there's still like a salty spot when it comes to The the traitor Mm-hmm Which is I mean it makes it all that much more bittersweet because you know Calder was the one that was initially the one that knew about the mole and
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Speaker
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00:59:26
Speaker
and was the leader of the team. Ah, man. It's a good opportunity to bring back up Calder, though, because on the subject of, like, Black Manta, one of the aspects of his involvement in his plot was, and the reason that he's able to escape where they had him beat is that there's an alien bomb that basically goes off and kills all the LaCrolataeans
00:59:56
Speaker
Well as the ship that they were building to escape from this planet and it takes out Superman as well Which is a really another really tragic like moment like so it's nice to again to see Superman doing what he does best like he wanted to save these creatures and they're just like They don't get it. They're just firing upon him firing upon him and he like really wanted to save him and even even Superboy says like one room was like Oh, he's got a strong pulse. He's breathing. He's okay. He's like
01:00:20
Speaker
He didn't save them. He's not going to be okay with that. So what was Aqualad, excuse me, Black Manta's goal there? Like they even questioned like, was he setting them up for a trap? Was he genuinely trying to help them?
01:00:34
Speaker
We don't really know. And the person that plants the bomb, it was a silhouetted figure. I initially thought it was Kaldor, but then I'm guessing because of the shape of the body suit and everything like that, it was supposed to be Black Manta because then he gets inducted to the lights where the light was the major threat from season one. They are back at the end of this third episode.
01:00:57
Speaker
Again, I can understand why you chose to break up the episodes the way you did. We thought we might have been done with the light, but nope, they're still as present as ever and operating behind the scenes like they do. We're not done with big emotional moments yet either. Uh-oh. But yeah, I'm glad you brought up that whole thing about Superman. This is probably definitely my favorite version of Superman that I've seen recently.
01:01:24
Speaker
I know I said that he stood in front of a missile, but like even in that moment, like he lost Coddron because that was when Nightwing met up with him. Right. But it's a version that you see not only go through emotional pain, but you see him actually capable of going through physical pain.
01:01:45
Speaker
Okay, that was my favorite thing about Man of Steel was that when the Jets were shooting at him or he got hit by a missile like that actually Fazed him that bothered him. He wasn't this invincible like nothing can hurt me. I'm Superman type type of vibe Yeah, and as the movies in DC you progressed it kind of went a little bit moral towards the invincible thing But he's not invincible here. He's really strong. He's probably the strongest person but like I
01:02:13
Speaker
Aquaman Shazam captain Adam any of them were to get into a fight with him like it would actually be a fight right right so I like that more for lack of a better term down-to-earth version of Superman that's vulnerable and can be beaten and is not godlike and to see him in that moment of like
01:02:35
Speaker
Not only him staying back trying to convince them to let him help, they start shooting at him, that phased him a little bit, but Connor and the league were actually worried, like, what about Superman? Like, he's in there with a bomb. That could hurt him. And it hurt him. And I like that that's an issue that you actually have to worry about Superman in this universe.
01:02:59
Speaker
Where did I hear this recently? And it might have been on the show, forgive me. Like I said, we've mentioned up top, it's been such a weekend with so much content and everything like that, but I know it had to be DC related. Where did I hear recently? He's Kryptonian, but he still needs to breathe. Clayface said that at the beginning of the episode. Okay, okay, that's what it was, yeah, when he had Superboy. Because, okay, that's when the main thing, when Superman fell into the water and was completely unconscious, there was a moment where I was seriously concerned keeping that in mind. I'm like, yeah,
01:03:27
Speaker
As long as the sun's there, he's going to survive on some level. But then it was when Aquaman came and scooped him up, which goes right back into the point you were making. They were legitimately concerned for him and, you know, sent a reconnaissance and rescue team out to scoop him up. So yeah, I love the Superman so much in that moment was huge for his for his character. Mm hmm.
01:03:50
Speaker
Yeah, and Superman's a character that we haven't been able to spend a ton of time on, and he's not the focal point of the show, but I'm right there with you. He's done like a real about face from season one in terms of his relationship with Connor, but then even just like he is so such a he's he's the classic
01:04:10
Speaker
Uh, design of the character, but it's, it's really well done. Like I love the way they have that classic S with the serif and everything like that, but it doesn't look out of place. It doesn't look campy. Like it works with this design that they've made, um, so well. So. And the voice actor does a fantastic job. Nolan North is killing it as both, uh, yeah, Superman and Connor.
01:04:34
Speaker
All right, I think that's everything I wanted to hit on as far as these three episodes go. Did you have anything left on the table that you feel is important to bring up?
01:04:46
Speaker
Uh, two more things. Yeah, please. I didn't know about this guy until this show, but I like how DC has their own version of J Jonah Jameson. Oh yeah. This is something that's very recurring in the show from here on out. And he always has like his sly anti-hero commentary. I love every scene that comes up because like, I appreciate what he brings to the show, but I want to punch him in the face at the same time.
01:05:12
Speaker
and in that you see how his word like how influential he is because when they were doing the tour of the hall of justice they were just like but jay gordon guard for he said that you know they were the ones who brought the aliens and it's like they're like losing their faith in the heroes because of the the bullshit that he's spreading yeah uh i that scene kind of stuck out me out to me too because of the tour guide she had a very thick french accent and i was like
01:05:36
Speaker
is this and she uh visually she was really um distinctive in the fact that she had like green eyes and a mole and stuff like that so i was like i could not help but like
01:05:46
Speaker
I'm wondering if there's something special about this character. But yeah, you're right. Going back to what's his name's Godfrey Gilbert. I want to say Gilbert Godfrey, but I know that's not right. G. Gordon Godfrey. G. Gordon Godfrey. Yeah, he is very much. It's funny that it's just like three G's instead of two or three J's. Yeah.
01:06:09
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But the character that you mentioned, I think it was at the beginning of Season 1 when Zatayda and Rocket are coming in and she was the one that was pushing back the press. Oh, okay, okay. So I feel like she's kind of like the curator or the manager of the Hall of Justice or something like that, something in that regard? Okay, you're probably right. And that's probably why she caught my eye is because I'd seen the character before, but I just didn't make that connection, so.
01:06:32
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Yeah, and she spoke with that foreign accent as well. But actually, I had a theory that the person who voiced Artemis voiced her in a, yep, I was right. Ooh, nice. Yeah, it's the person who voices Artemis was just a more European accent. Interesting, that's a good catch. I don't think I would have picked up on that myself. I mean, the main thing, I know that our actor's name is Stephanie something? Lemelin. Stephanie Lemelin.
01:07:02
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The main thing that always stuck out to me about her when she voiced Artemis is she has a she has the ability to do like a little bit of rasp and like Smokiness to the voice that's not like yeah, so very unique. Yeah, I enjoyed it quite a bit So on the point of curator when she was when they were in the museum They finally gave the origin of how the Justice League was formed Yes in this universe and that's when they were fighting the Appalachians, which I had never heard of before this so
01:07:31
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That stuck out to me too, and I was... I was... Appalachians. Like, that's not... that has nothing to do with apocalypse, right? Mm-hmm. Okay, okay. Yeah, I'm not familiar with them either, then. She said it was basically a suit that... or a suit that... No, they were like... they were like environmental, like, stone giants. Okay, that, like, used, like, energy or something like that?
01:07:55
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Yeah, they have very like rune-like carvings engraved in them. Kind of a... I don't know if you... Totally changing gears, I don't know why it's reminding me of this, but if you ever saw Hellboy 2, the Golden Army...
01:08:07
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I really like those first two Hellboy movies off completely off-base here. I would recommend that's neither here nor there And the last point for me, yes, sir, take it away you notice that Captain Adam has been taking more of a leadership position this season. Yes. He actually has speaking rules I don't think he was voiced at all last season. So yeah, he's a character that
01:08:35
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always seems to be in the background of things that I read or see, but I really have not spent too much time with that character, but he seems very authoritative, is the main thing. Very captain-like. Yeah, exactly. And I noticed they called him Cap, which I guess this series came out around 2012.
01:09:02
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I don't know. I guess it's not, per se, a reference to other Captain characters out there. DC did most of these characters first. That's no, totally true. I mean, we had Captain Marvel all last season. That was definitely, I knew that about the character of Captain Marvel, that he was Captain Marvel well before he was ever referred to as Shazam. But just with pop culture and the zeitgeist, you know, Shazam being the more modern interpretation, it was a little bit of a transition there, but yeah.
01:09:29
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DC did it first in a lot of different ways. I mean, I know Thanos was inspired by Darkseid and that's not the only instance by any means, but yeah, I believe that's everything I want to cover. I mean, yeah, the season is off to a hell of a start. As I mentioned, as bombastic and exciting it was, there was definitely a element of bitter sweetness to it, not only in like what happened to
01:09:56
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some of the characters that we we get to see their betrayal forthright uh just missing some of the characters like yeah Artemis was one of my favorite characters and the voice actress was no no small part of that and the journey that she took but yeah also also kid flash i mean um surprise there's one more you haven't brought up who's that red tornado no you got the red part right red
01:10:21
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Red Arrow. Ah, yes. Yeah, I can't imagine him once. I was waiting for it. No, no, you're totally right. And that just goes to show the scale of this thing. We were introduced to so many characters, but that was certainly something, a big cliffhanger from season one. We've got two versions of Roy Harper out there. Yeah, yeah, I'm very curious. And in the Hall of Justice, we had Guardian's armor. I almost completely forgot about that. What happened to Guardian? He doesn't have his armor anymore.
01:10:51
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And is it that wise to keep all the pieces of Amazo that close together? Yeah, right. But yeah, I think that's going to bring things to a close here. Again, really enjoying the series, really enjoying the coverage and the conversations with you. Here's your hair. So thanks again for recommending it. As for myself, stay tuned to Animation Deliberation. We do have Invincible releasing on Amazon that's coming right around the corner. I myself have had the opportunity to hop on the,
01:11:21
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