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Everything Actioncast Ep 649 “Madame Web, Loki, 3 Musketeers, The Marvels and More”
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This week on the Everything Actioncast, Zach and Chris talk about the first bizarre trailer for Madame Web, the messy fun of The Marvels, the season (series?) finale of Loki, 1993's The Three Musketeers, Pedro Pascal in talks to play Reed Richards and more.
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Introduction to the Podcast
00:00:03
Speaker
Welcome to the Everything Action Cast, the official podcast of EverythingAction.com. Hello and welcome to the Everything Action Cast, the podcast week of November 13th, 2023. I'm here with Zach. I'm your co-host, Chris. And we have a ton of stuff to speak, so let's jump right in.
Madam Web Trailer Discussion
00:00:31
Speaker
And we'll kick things off like you usually do with some trailers. And I think we gotta kick things off with the weirdest trailer of the week, or the biggest, slash biggest trailer of the week, which is we got the first trailer for Madam Web, the latest entry in Sony's Spider-Man universe, which is the official name for that, for the Venomverse. It's Sony's Spider-Man universe. That doesn't have Spider-Man in it, and it will never have Spider-Man in it, but...
00:00:58
Speaker
Yeah, so Dakota Johnson is playing Cassandra Webb, who is, you know, eventually turns into Madam Webb, I guess. I guess that's what she'll get, like, blind and paralyzed and don't do in our dimension, maybe. But right now, she's just a NYPD paramedic who has a near-death experience. Like, she, like, ends up, like, almost drowning, but then that gives her, like, psychic powers and, like, superpowers.
00:01:25
Speaker
She's like, basically, it turns her into like Nicolas Cage from Next, where she can like see the future and change it, possibly. And then there's a crazy looking villain who sort of looks like evil Spider-Man going around and like trying to kill like these, this trio of young women. And then they also team up to stop this guy.
00:01:47
Speaker
And then all three of the women are going to turn into Spider Woman, Spider Girl, and Arana. These Spider Heroes eventually. I don't know. It's weird. What do you think, Chris?
00:02:06
Speaker
As I guess the team's Spider-Man aficionado, it feels like they packed in the most like super annual issue of like spider people. You know, every get those comics back in the 90s, that's just like a super annual like, we're gonna cram as much as possible to make that like $4 issue or maybe $3 issue seem worth it.
00:02:34
Speaker
That's what they're doing here. They're dropping so much, like, lore, but they're condensing it so quickly that, again, I'm like, all right, like, you don't want to dedicate two movies to explain half of these people, let alone the main villain was like a big, like, influential, like, villain to Peter Parker. And they're just eliminating that and they're just going straight for the, um,
00:03:04
Speaker
Like, okay, he just has to go after a spider person. Anyone will do. Yeah. Ezekiel Sims, who was, if you didn't, the best life of the trailer, which has become a meme, which is Ezekiel Sims, who Dakota Johnson says he was in the Amazon with my mom, which he was researching spiders before she died. It's so much more in one sentence. You're like, what? Just, just the way she says it. And there's like, just like the like blunt, like,
00:03:34
Speaker
Of course, common knowledge. My mom was researching spiders in the Amazon before she died. I mean, I got to watch that trailer again. But it seems like, did everyone know about her origin before she brought it up?
Critique of Madam Web's Plot
00:03:47
Speaker
Because they're like, oh, I know you. You live in my building. Coincidence. And it's like, what about that? It was like, you know what I mean? It's like, it's all the future spider women have run into, like, Dakota Johnson previously.
00:04:01
Speaker
I mean, I don't mind that it does make sense in the spider web connection of like the threads of fate, whatever they want to go through the spider web and however they expanded on in Spider-Man across the spider verse and all that to kind of symbolically explain how all these spider characters are connected. In the comic version, they were just all different types of spider people that sort of
00:04:32
Speaker
just happened like they didn't really aware of each other they were just like I'm just gonna be a spider person or I'm a spider woman that is a government agent
00:04:43
Speaker
Like I was trained and then it had just happened to be Spider Powers just because my attack looked like a web. You know, it's psychic. Like Jessica Drew was like that. Yeah. Who was in the Spider-Verse movies. So that's, we're not getting Jessica Drew, Spider-Woman. We're getting, we're getting Drew Carpenter's. He's played by Citi Sweeney. And then Maddie Franklin, Spider-Girls, played by Celeste O'Connor. And then Anya Corazoned, who's played by Isabella Merson.
00:05:13
Speaker
I think she's normally like a villain. Her character... Arana? Yes. Is that who she's playing as? Yeah, it's playing Arana. I guess it's like a rektid or some sort of play on that a little bit or something. Yeah, but there was like a female spider person that was like a villain. That's why I was like, this seems very familiar. It's like Arana is like the Spanish word for spider.
00:05:41
Speaker
Right. I know that, but I'm saying, I'm surprised they didn't just stick with like, like in what they said up, I'm fine with them being, uh, like Madam web, like they're, they're basically an X-Men team because she's the leader and you know, she's sort of like, uh, she definitely like is in command of these up and coming warriors. But in the way they present this movie, they show too much, too quick.
00:06:12
Speaker
to show you that all these people are spider people. So that's why. It would have been an exciting trailer to show her. And then the second trailer is showing that like these people are also superheroes too. So they're not just like, depending on Dakota Johnson to pretty much do everything. But then Man in Web also has like super power, like super strength because there's a part of the trailer which like catches like a car or like some sort of like giant piece of metal.
00:06:40
Speaker
Which I don't think... I don't know of that. My Madam Web is always an older person. She always looks like a weird version of Aunt May. Like a healthier version and like an awesome like throne. But I don't mind her being younger. I just mind that like they just pretty much inserted anything they wanted to just carry a Spider-Man franchise without Spider-Man.
00:07:10
Speaker
Again, my big thing is that they injured Ezekiel, who is like a spider god, like worshipper. And then you didn't need that. All you needed was someone low stakes to sort of explain how this team gets together. I was fine if they introduced Trantula. He was a good like, I like a good villain, that sort of a spider person and has his own agenda about being a crime boss, like, keep it low stakes.
00:07:40
Speaker
They went heavy in the whole idea of like multiverse and I guess like parallel dimension hopping? Yeah, they're gonna try to like work in more of their like weird multiverse stuff where like Vulture is now in like the Spider-Man's Sony Spider-Man universe and Venom jumped over to the MCU for a second and came back, yeah.
00:08:08
Speaker
is this in this one i don't like is this the zone pocket universe i have no idea well i also know is it's not mcu like i know yeah well defeat the theory or like people are speculating because um apparently adam scott is playing ben parker and emma robert is playing bay parker so people are thinking like is this going to be like a and it's also like based on like there's like apparently there's like a kid playing or someone's playing like a psp on the subway in one of the scenes so people are like
00:08:35
Speaker
This is set in like the early 2000s or around the era. So if you were thinking like, that wasn't a kid. That was a grown ass man. Yes. Yes. Yeah. So guys play the PSP. Um, but that kind of pin and then people don't have like iPhones or anything. So it's like, it's kind of, it's people are thinking this might be a prequel. Like they're saying this up as like a prequel to spiderman. So then it's like, there might be some sort of like in credits seeing or like, like right before the credits, like,
00:09:02
Speaker
Because it looks like Dakota Johnson is working with, her fellow paramedic is M. Scott, Ben Parker. So they're working together, and it's like, oh, hey, here's my nephew, Peter. And he's going to have a dead zone vision.
00:09:20
Speaker
Yeah, I saw on Reddit, there was a great post, someone wrote that scene. It's like the horrible, terrible writing version of it. And then she's like, oh, he's going to be amazing. Oh my God. Someone pitched that as the file line of the movie. No.
00:09:48
Speaker
But yeah, I get, I get, I get very big, uh, morbid, morbid energy. I don't feel that way, but I understand where you're coming from. I just feel like, yeah, you had Morbius, which was cheesy and limited in scope. Now you throw, you're throwing in five super power of evil against another spider person that is just evil spider man now, but he doesn't have webs.
00:10:19
Speaker
He doesn't zip line or anything. He's just this fast. Yeah. Well, I was, I was like, Oh, this is interesting. This is like found this nation or like next or something, but like a superhero version. But then when that Amazon line came up, I was like, Oh boy. Okay. It's more, it's more of a time now. Like the, like the, like my mom was in the Amazon, like that like, Oh, okay. It's more of a time.
Speculation on Actor Enthusiasm for Madam Web
00:10:45
Speaker
I wonder during that same time,
00:10:48
Speaker
They're gonna like if they were smart in a really like Just to like salvage Morbius. They would mention like oh kind of like, you know Dr. Morbius and his dad says like what? Yeah, but like what was he doing like the early 2000s though? He was still in the hospital in Croatia. Yeah, I Don't know he medical school Something yeah Make me making his face blood. Yeah
00:11:19
Speaker
just because, uh, Morbius, I couldn't figure out like how old he was either. And then that movie, but let's not keep thinking about Morbius. Yeah. I was like, it just seemed like everyone is like really like, like no, this doesn't seem like anyone's like passion project. Like Dakota Johnson does not seem like she's like very like, Oh man, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so into man,
What If Season 2 and Imaginary Trailer Reviews
00:11:42
Speaker
a web. Like it just feels like a paycheck.
00:11:46
Speaker
Oh yeah, everyone. Like all the person, only person that's probably excited to be there just because they're shocked they're there is just Adam Scott. He has a limited role because the movie's not about Ben Parker. And then, I don't know, I could see him be really good for his one focus role of being the beginning and the end.
00:12:12
Speaker
Or, screw it, what if Ben Parker just bites the dust halfway through the movie? They just, it's like, here's Spider-Man's origin. Here it is, the one, this Spider-Man, Far From Home wouldn't want to show you. Yeah. Got, poor him, Scott. Like, yeah, you could be like Ben Parker in like a Spider-Man movie, but you're in like Sony's Spider-Man universe and not the MCU. Yeah, I feel like everyone
00:12:42
Speaker
that is in this, knows they're not in the main movie timeline. They use the runner up. Their agents were like, hey, I got you a Marvel movie. And they're like, oh shit, a Marvel movie? It's like, yeah, it's Sony. It's Madam Web. Oh, you're a Spider-Man. OK, is it the animated one? No. No, no, no, no, no. But that sucks because you don't get any of the
00:13:09
Speaker
lucrative royalties if they use your likeness or anything at any Disney theme park or promotion ad or you know it just doesn't have the same power so people complain that Marvel does ruin like cinema but I mean not every movie has to be Marvel unfortunately when you are doing a Marvel thing you kind of want to be in the the high tier maybe be in the Netflix like the Disney plus shows that's also pretty good and then
00:13:39
Speaker
This feels like it's from another country. They sort of skirted around basic plot ideas, took something that
00:13:51
Speaker
You know, can't be argued with a lot and then just threw it together because there is not like a huge man on web fan base. No. The expectations are low. I think 90 90s kids like us like remember like the animated series. It's the only reason that she has any sort of like cash. I feel like today was like, I think they invented her for the animated series. Maybe. Yeah, I think that sounds that sounds right.
00:14:18
Speaker
I feel like Madam Web was introduced after some popularity. I could be wrong. I got to check, but it's not hard to check. But yeah, it's going to be a potentially potentially a big year for the Sony Spider-Man universe because we got Madam Web and then we got Craig with the Hunter also coming out next year. So we'll have to see both those. I wonder if they're going to cross over or something.
00:14:44
Speaker
Oh, okay. Just to clarify, no, Madam Web has been around since the eighties since I made Spider-Man issue 210. Okay. And she was just a clairvoyant. She had some telepath powers and precognitive skill, but it was never to a point where
00:15:03
Speaker
She could ride an ambulance and then tell people when to attack. It's just a supporting role. Well, she wasn't even in our reality. She was in her own dimension, just looking at the web of life or whatever it was and guiding people. But she wasn't in the action. She was the watcher.
00:15:26
Speaker
Yeah, she basically was the Spider-Man's version of a watcher, because she only really bugged Spider-People. I mean, Spider-Man for most time, until at some point in the late 2000s, they're like, we need to make a sexier Madam Web. And you know who became the second Madam Web? Well, I think it was Julia Carpenter, right? Yeah, Julia Carpenter, because Julia Carpenter didn't have nothing to do. Yeah. But then I'm like, does Julia Carpenter have
00:15:56
Speaker
precognition? I don't think so. I guess we'll have to find out all the secrets of the web of life and everything when the Madam Web comes out on Valentine's Day next
Garfield Movie and Casting Rumors
00:16:10
Speaker
year. So take your loved ones to Madam Web. And speaking of the Watcher and the proper MCU, we also got this week the trailer for season two of What If.
00:16:25
Speaker
the animated multiverse realm of the MCU. And it's going to be another nine episodes of Anthology, although they've especially said it's going to have another connected storyline the first season did, but it seems like it might have another connected storyline. It'll be individual episodes, but building to a big connected finale.
00:16:52
Speaker
But this season, we're getting an episode that's inspired by Marvel 1602, which is like the kind of colonial, like colonial Victorian era. It's not Victorian era, it's like even like, it's like, I don't know what era it is, but whatever 1600 era is, it's like, you know, so it's like swords and,
00:17:20
Speaker
It's like kind of not really medieval, but like I guess Renaissance era or like some sort of like older versions of the MCU characters. There's a scene where like Ant-Man and Captain America are like sort of fighting each other. And then like Hulk has like a giant wig on. And then there's going to be a episode. It's like it's like the Ten Rings versus Asgard. There's a scene where like it's like when we was like fighting Odin. And then like a like a Mad Max like race.
00:17:50
Speaker
episode where everyone is in this giant, I don't know, Twisted Metal race contest or something. I think they're on whatever planet. Like Jeff Goldblum. The Grandmaster. That's his game. That's how Gladiator fights. It's like car combat. It's different. And more Avengers are there.
00:18:19
Speaker
There's going to be a Christmas theme episode where it looks like they're going to basically pay homage to Die Hard where Stark Tower gets taken over and then Happy and Toady and then also Darcy's involved and some other characters have to get Stark Tower back from whoever's taking it over.
00:18:36
Speaker
And, um, like there's like an eighties themed episode where it's like, it's like, uh, it's Hank Pym and I think it's the Chaka and some other characters, like a Bucky, like winter soldier Bucky, but like, I guess not brainwashed or like at this like eighties Avengers team doing like secret missions. Um, there's gonna be a sequel episode to the captain Carter episode for the first season. So like we're, we're like the first captain Carter episode left off. Um, there's like an episode picking up from there.
00:19:06
Speaker
And they're also introducing a wholly original character to the MCU, like never has never appeared in comics before. So a completely original creation, Kahori, who is a female Mohawk warrior who becomes imbued with like the power of the Tesseract. It's gonna be an episode like totally, totally spoken in Mohawk.
00:19:30
Speaker
Well, like the Mohawk language. I think it's just Mohawk. I think it's like this language. Mohegan is Mohawk. Well, I think Mohegans and Hawaks were two different tribes. The Mohegans were like... Because if you watch the last of the Mohegans, they were at war with the Mohawks. I see. And the Mohawks wiped them out, basically. That's funny. Alright. So why did they name the casino after Mohegan? Well, that's Mohegan.
00:20:00
Speaker
There's Mohegan and Mohegan. Oh my God. I, I, they did not teach that in a lot of American schools. And, uh, I see the watchers back, Jeffrey writes back as the watcher. Um, and they're actually doing the first episode is going to drop on December 22nd, uh, next month. And then.
00:20:21
Speaker
Every day after that, a new episode is going to drop leading up to December 30th. So nine episodes, nine days in a row, you'll get a new episode of What If over the holidays. And yeah, so definitely excited to check that out and see what they got going on with the, it's just going to be like, you know, how they're going to bullet some sort of like finale and what interesting MCU moments they're going to twist.
00:20:50
Speaker
And then we also got the first show to speak for imaginary, which is the upcoming Blumhouse movie. You know, they had, they're two biggest hits this year, probably Megan and Five Nights at Freddy's. And this is another kind of like childhood object that is coming to life to kill people or to like threatening people. And it's basically, so,
00:21:19
Speaker
I think she was most recently in Jurassic World, was the last one Fall Kingdom or Dominion. She moves back to her childhood home with her family and then her stepdaughter finds a teddy bear in the basement and the teddy bear has an evil entity attached to it named Chauncey.
00:21:42
Speaker
that is telling this young girl to hurt herself or do horrible things. And they're like, oh, it's this imaginary friend. But then it turns out, oh, there's some sort of evil spirit or entity or demon attached to this teddy bear that we have to figure out how to stop. And apparently, it's like the one that wises an old imaginary friend. And then it's mad because she abandoned them, or abandoned it. And then now it's looking for revenge.
00:22:13
Speaker
yeah I don't understand how like she didn't recognize the friend doesn't is the imaginary friend the same friend she abandoned and kept the same name yeah that's weird if it was like if she also had a friend named Chauncey and it's just like oh I remember that like
00:22:36
Speaker
It's got to be some sort of other name. You can't just be like, oh yeah, I also had a friend named Chauncey that was a teddy bear. That's weird. Anyway. It's very similar when the flashback you see in the scene where it's the same bear and then her imagination takes over.
00:22:53
Speaker
And she doesn't remember that. I guess like you can remember, forget childhood things as you get old, which is sad. Maybe they get like a repressed memory or something where something horrible happened and she just like forgot it or tried to like be forced to forget it or something. Essentially they're going to pull like an insidious where this childhood monster that's been stalking this girl is going to pass it on to her child. And now this monster is going to be like, okay, if I couldn't have you, I'll have your kid.
00:23:24
Speaker
But again, I see this as like a weird version of Monster's Inc. I saw this and I was like, uh-oh. When you have an imaginary friend and then it's like, hurt yourself and then what? This little girl's just like, yeah, okay. We're in this nail in my hand. And it's directed by Jeff Wadlow, who has not delivered the best Blumhouse movies. He directed Fantasy Island and Truth or Dare.
00:23:53
Speaker
But I mean, hopefully, I mean, this looks pretty, this looks pretty creepy and very good. So hopefully, like, hopefully he'll be able to, like, you know, kind of deliver a more top tier Blumhouse movie.
Denzel Washington's Netflix Film and Show Cancellations
00:24:04
Speaker
It's going to be March 8th next year. So you can get ready for that one. And then finally, we got the first try for the new Garfield movie, which is coming from Sony and start Chris Pratt, who is on a mission to apparently to take over
00:24:20
Speaker
every, you know, every famous character and just do the voice for them. Also, also really going from like, like the most famous Italian in the world, or one of the most famous, like one of the most famous, like eaters of Italian food in the world. Wait, what? What do you mean? So I mean, Chris, Chris, Chris Pratt was Mario, you know, one of the most famous aliens, and now he's Garfield, who's famous for eating Italian food.
00:24:49
Speaker
Yeah, he's just trying to be a fake cosplay Italian. Well, Garth is not telling it, though. Garth is just like, I know. He says things like this, but I just can't I can't get over the fact that it is just a softer Chris Pratt voice as Garfield. Well, he's an accent or something on it.
00:25:10
Speaker
He's definitely not, I don't think he's doing any sort of like, he's just like, I mean, in Mario at least, he tried to do like a, put a little bit of like a, you know, Italian flair on it. This is just like, I'm just Chris Pratt, I'm just doing my voice, I don't care, I'm Garfield, whatever. Like, he's not trying to do anything, he's not even trying to like, get close like Bill Murray or Lorenzo Music or anything like, or like, any like established Garfield voice, just like, yeah, it's me, Chris Pratt, I'm Garfield now, whatever. I like, I like, I like lasagna. I hate Mondays.
00:25:43
Speaker
I really hope it's a Garfield movie that it's not about Garfield appreciating Odie. That's been so overplayed. Well, the weird thing is it's about Garfield's deadbeat dad coming back, Vic, who's voiced by Samuel Jackson. Was it cool to see a giant cat Sam Jackson? Yeah, and then it drags Garfield and Odie on some sort of wacky adventure.
00:26:12
Speaker
And, yeah, so yeah, so Chris Pattis facing Garfield, Samuel Jackson facing Vivek, and then we also got Hannah Wanningham from Ted Lasso, we got Vig Rains, we got Nicholas Holt, we got Cecily Strong, Harvey Guillen, Brett Goldstein, Bowen Yang are all co-starring, and then Mark Dindl, who directed The Emperor's New Groove, and also directed Chicken Little and Tketso Dances, directed in the movie.
00:26:38
Speaker
And I mean, it's I mean, animation wise, it looks it looks good. I mean, animation looks like it's it's like, you know, that kind of it's not it's not like it's not the crazy Sony like Spider-Verse animation. It looks like a typical like CG animation, but looks like decently decent CG animation. Like I'd probably like the Mario movie or something. I would say it's close to like the first. Like Minions movie, because it's very bright.
00:27:07
Speaker
Which which is weird because like so he didn't make them like that was like illuminations like that was like a universal company No, I know but it's in that vein of trying to appeal to it. I feel like they They did something slightly different with their colors to mimic a minion Yeah, you think our field no again a minion very close instruct and stout enos. I
00:27:31
Speaker
And they're definitely trying to play off the baby trend, because we got baby Garfield in the first video of this trailer, which I'm sure they're hoping is going to sell like a million toys or be like the big breakout. Also, did this studio? No, OK. Illumination did the Grinch movie, right? Yes. Yeah, they did the Minions. They did Super Mario. They did the Grinch. And that's a universal company.
00:28:03
Speaker
So yeah, so yeah, so so animation is I mean, it's it's weird because like, you know, they've been like pushing like, you know, the boundary of Spider-Verse and this is for some machines. They've been like pushing like the boundaries of like typical animation or like CG animation. And now it's just like this is like, I mean, it's fine, but it's like it's kind of just like it's like a kind of like generic CG in a movie. I think I I'm kind of like
00:28:31
Speaker
against is just how big Garfield's eyes are like yeah sometimes when he's like big eyed I'm like maybe I'm used to the kind of like laid-back smirk but yeah it's like something that uh it's sort of like if they did this as the first Garfield movie this would have been great right before they did the live-action hybrid
00:28:57
Speaker
I do appreciate there's like it looks like there's scenes where there's it's gonna be like literally like a comic book like like the comic strip where it's like yeah like just like like Garfield like in this in center frame like looking at the like camera and then like something happens yeah they embrace the comic strips of Garfield they embrace like the best of from
00:29:17
Speaker
I don't know, my generation, because Garfield still is like a thing. There's some sort of joke with like the like the Macy's Day, like the Thanksgiving Day float shows up. So they're like, they're like, like, there's gonna be like weird meta jokes, hopefully, of like Garfield stuff. Which is like appropriate, because this is like, I'm interested because I like Garfield things. I'm not ready to Garfield comic in the last
00:29:45
Speaker
15 years, but actively read them. If I catch it on a newspaper or something, I'll read it. But as a kid, I grew up collecting the books. So that's never going to change. But yeah, it's nice that it's back. It's been goddamn like 20 years.
00:30:09
Speaker
But yeah, this is going to be May 24th next summer. So if you're a Garveau fan, mark that on your calendar. And then moving on to some other news. We've got some potentially big news about the Fantastic Four over in the MCU. So apparently, Pedro Pascal is in talks to play Reed Richards. Nowhere close to official, but apparently he has been meeting with Marvel.
00:30:38
Speaker
like correct direction to like get him to sign on to, uh, as far as no negotiations, like get him to be re Richards. I guess we're trying to work out scheduling and stuff. Cause he's like, also got like glad you're two and last to us season two and other Pedro Pascale brought Mandalorian. Oh, all the, all the Pedro Pascale stuff is happening. Yeah. What do you think of, uh, Pedro Pascale's re Richards, Chris? A little different.
00:31:07
Speaker
little odd choice just because he figured they would want to stick with either like younger
New Terminator Anime and Harley Quinn Renewal
00:31:21
Speaker
actor to groom him to be in more things because it took so long for a Fantastic Four product. Pedro Pascal, I feel like he's going to be in
00:31:35
Speaker
one movie and then just start like, I don't want to do this anymore. Like I had that vibe because he was right there for Mandalorian. He was just like, I have to like wear the suit. No, thank you. So I don't know where he stands on that. And it's weird because you can't just hike this up. And then knowing that the, um, that like a lot of the negotiations have been in processed.
00:32:04
Speaker
just because what do you do with a Fantastic Four movie? Do you do an origin? Do you kind of drop it in as they've just been there for a while? Where have they been for the last few years? What do you do? Do they start with this? Do they start with an older Reed Richard who gets hit with cosmic rays and then becomes Mr. Fantastic?
00:32:30
Speaker
I think I would definitely prefer like, just like the fans before like are just established and maybe they've been like, I don't know, off in space, like exploring or something. And they're like, Oh, we're back now. Like, yeah, maybe he's into it. If he made the cameo first, then John Krasinski. Well, that, I mean, they just like a brush it off as like, Oh, that's like the weird, like multi-verse version of Reed Richards, like in our dimension, like the proper,
00:32:57
Speaker
MCU reed Richards is paid to best call if he officially signed sod and then he basically just avoided everything from the blip from the Return and then he did not want to help at all. What the internals externals whatever they call I Thought I'd read or maybe it was just like a fan thing or just like a fan theory like I thought I read like
00:33:23
Speaker
one of the plant, their plan was possibly they were going to be in our dimension or in deep space exploring. And then they come back and it's like, oh, we were here in the 80s or 90s or whatever. But then we left them even exploring space for 20 years. But now we're back. Just to quickly establish. Because then you don't have to introduce them and do the whole origin again.
00:33:53
Speaker
And then, and then they can be like, Oh yeah, they were here. And then the, maybe do like flashbacks or something. And like, whatever, whatever decade they were like here before and then left. That's not official at any capacity. I was, I think I read that, like Reddit or something, but wishing it now. Yeah.
00:34:14
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But yeah, I guess we'll definitely keep an eye on the casting. Hopefully, maybe we'll get some more official confirmation soon. But definitely interesting choice for me, Richard. And then we'll see who the rest of the family is. I know people are talking about Vanessa Kirby for Sue Storm. What was she in again? She's like the White Widow in Mission Impossible. Oh.
00:34:43
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That's a big age difference. She can do it. I don't mind. And then I think they were talking about like there was like, the rumor was like, like, like Joe Curie from Stranger Things as Johnny Storm. I can see that.
00:35:14
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Hopefully we'll get some official Marvel confirmation. Marvel seems like they're slowing things down and delaying a bunch of stuff. We need to take a year or two off and figure out what the hell we're doing. Yeah, they need a break. They need to figure out everything. I bet the SAG problems did not happen.
00:35:39
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So we also this week found out that Denzel Washington is coming to Netflix. He's going to be starring in a movie based on Hannibal, the Carthaginian general, not the serial killer. But yeah, it's going to be a big historical epic. Antoine Fuqua is obviously going to direct it because they're a big duo. And John Logan, who actually wrote Gladiator, so he definitely has
00:36:07
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lots
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of experience with historical epics is going to be writing it. And it's going to be based on a particular battle, like a Hannibal in the Second Punic War, going against the Roman Empire and attacking them, crossing the Alps on an elephant. Yeah, I think I remember years ago,
00:36:35
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Vin Diesel wanted to play Hannibal. Yes. Do you remember that? Yeah, that was one of the things. And also, apparently, Denzel has been wanting to do this for years, because apparently, like 20 years ago, he was pitching us to Fox. And they were like, oh, yeah, we'll do it. But apparently, when they wanted to shoot it, it was not conducive to Denzel's schedule. So he was like, I got to pass right now. Oh, mind you, Denzel can.
00:37:04
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It's also crazy because Denzel's going to be in Gladiator 2. He's a co-star in Gladiator 2, so he's already going to be in a big historical epic. But then he's going to have another one that he's starring in.
00:37:26
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I'm just curious how much Netflix is going to throw at this one, because all the streamers are really buckling down of like, we're losing money. I wonder what kind of budgets, I mean, I guess if it's like 10 sale, they would probably just throw as much money as they need to get it to be like an exclusive at Netflix for something.
00:37:47
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I feel like you need like a hundred million two hundred million dollars at least for like a big a big huge like elephants crossing the Alps massive battles like
00:38:04
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But yeah, I guess, like, Glader 2 is going to start production, I guess. I think next week they're going to restart production and get that going. And then so this will be definitely after that. So this is probably quite a ways off. But we'll definitely keep an eye on what goes on with this Hannibal movie. Actually, speaking of Netflix, and speaking of them cutting costs, they actually canceled a bunch of shows this past week. So they canceled five shows.
00:38:34
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Shadow and Bone, which is the big one. I know there's a ton of fans of that show. I don't know if C2 ended on Cliffhanger or not. If C2 ended on Cliffhanger, that would suck. But it is canceled. And then Agent Elvis is canceled. Farzar, which is another anime show. Captain Fall, which is another anime show. And then Glamorous, which is like a Kim Kachrol drama show.
00:39:03
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So all five of those are officially canceled over at Netflix. And all of them, except Shadow and Bone, were in their first season. So it was like, all of them had one season, then Netflix was like, nope, we're not going to continue these. And I guess Shadow and Bone, season one, it was a huge hit.
00:39:21
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Season two definitely dropped off as far as the viewership. It never hit number one as far as the Netflix most watched metrics. It dropped off out of the top 10 way quicker than season one. I think it's also a pretty expensive show just because it's a big fantasy drama.
00:39:48
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The fact they dropped off quite a bit was part of the reason for Netflix to cancel it. And also, there's going to be a big delay because of the writer's strike and the sag strikes. It was going to be probably a year or two before it was humiliated and be back and ready for season three. So they cut their losses now. That makes sense.
00:40:14
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It's just a budget thing, and then I guess people weren't really into it. Yeah, I think the main thing was like, because they have the top 10 list of most watched stuff on Netflix. Netflix is like the one streamer that you can go and see streaming data and see what the most watched shows are like around the world and all that stuff. And yeah, apparently, Shadow of the Bones season two was definitely not up to the same level as the first season.
00:40:49
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But they are adding a new show, which we found out last week during the Netflix Geek Week. We're getting a Terminator anime series on Netflix, which is especially, it was a teaser. It was like a text-only teaser. But apparently, it's taking place two days before Judgment Day.
00:41:14
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Like the T2 or? Yeah, like August 30th, 1997. It's like the date of Judgment Day in the Terminator universe. Or I guess, is that the Terminator 2 date? Or is that the Terminator 3 delayed Judgment Day date? I think I was serious. It's like the Terminator 2 original Judgment Day date.
00:41:38
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But apparently, it's some sort of anime show. It's going to take place two days before that. And I guess involving a new Terminator showing up or something involving Terminators. We have pretty much no information about it. It's just Skydance, who owns the rights to Terminators, is on board. So it's an official full Terminator series. They can bring in Terminators like the T-1000s, T-800s, whatever they want to bring in, I guess.
00:42:08
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I don't think you have to. Just do a Marvel What If, where they just make a CGI version of himself, like a cartoon.
00:42:35
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I don't mind. I'm just surprised that they're finally doing a Terminator cartoon. Because the thing is, there are other comics and games that explore other characters that not necessarily have to be the John Connor family line.
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Oh, so pretty well. Yeah. So there is there apparently there was like an official synopsis. So apparently, there's a new soldier gets sent back in time.
00:43:02
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And there's a scientist named Malcolm Lee who's working on a rival AI to Skynet that I guess could threaten Skynet's dominance or something. What if Skynet just merged with that? Yeah. Apparently, one of these future soldiers is sent back and she has to protect the scientist because his work is going to threaten or has such an impact on the future.
00:43:31
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Isn't that literally what the other Terminator movie was? Which Genesis or? Yeah, no, no, no. Genesis was kind of became Genesis. So that was like, it's like, oh, this is just Skynet, Skynet like rebranded. Not Genesis, it was the other one. Dark, uh, Dark Fate. They literally sent someone from the future back to protect the next resistant leader.
00:44:00
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Yes. Yeah, it says, so a future soldier sent back in time to change the fate of humanity. She arrives in 1977 to protect a scientist named Malcolm Lee, who works to launch a new AI system designed to compete with SkyNet's impending attack on humanity. So I guess they're making an AI to stop SkyNet from launching its attack or something? The new AI that can counter that AI? We're just fine. That's smart.
00:44:30
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You know, don't say a kid to fight a robot, but like find a AI. Is this like pro chat ch Bt like chat ch Bt? Yeah, it's a secret propaganda to this movie. Yeah, so we don't know. We don't know much. Hopefully, we'll get some
00:44:52
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actual footage of it soon. But there is at some point in the near future bringing a Terminator show on Netflix to join all the other kind of big adult anime series they've been pushing out. And then last but not least for this week is that we got a season five renewal for Harley Quinn over at Max. So there's more Harley Quinn coming in the near future. Including the spin off Kite Man Hell Yeah is coming next year.
00:45:25
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Are you, have you, have you, have you already caught up with Harry Quinn, Chris, or? I think I'm like one or two more episodes away from finishing it. Yeah, apparently, apparently it's like one of the biggest, like, you know, max like hits. Um, and, uh, you know, one of the, one of the few successes, I guess, or like one of the, something that's like, like a safe, like totally safe from, uh, all the, all the craziness happening at max and, you know, canceling completed movies and.
00:45:53
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canceling shows and but yeah they're burning everything else around it but they're protecting the ones that make it like money right now yeah it's also it's like Harley Quinn like Harley Quinn survived like the OG like DC Universe app that was before Maxine existed and now it's you know thriving on max so so whatever that guy was running
00:46:22
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Yeah, Harley Quinn, this show is definitely one of the best DC things in recent years. Well, it's not afraid to play with the lore and have fun of itself and just be aware of things. And it does it right.
00:46:49
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It always comes up like it always comes up like super like interesting funny takes of like like just like weird characters or like side characters or like you know making like making you like gorgeous like a crazed lunatic or like just a crazed alcoholic lunatic or like making Batman like like psychotic and clay face like a struggling actor like a lot like t-shirt as an IT nerd like just like always always like super fun like different takes on the characters
00:47:21
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And yeah, we're getting much, much more of it with C5 and Kite Man, which I'm excited for. So both of those are coming up soon on Max. And that's it for this week. So I jump into Show and Tell. And Chris, what are you watching over the last week or so here? I probably caught up and saw the Teenage Mutant Turtles Mutant Mayhem. OK. Yeah, I put that off for a while, but I saw it.
00:47:51
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I like it. It does a good job of being self-aware and like a reintroduction to the turtles and establishing like a new lore that where the comics are or to some degree like where the turtles aren't super secret at all. Yeah. And because that's like always the goal.
00:48:20
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the series, like halfway through some of their arcs, they're always like, okay, we need to tell people like we don't want the sewer anymore. We want to do all these other things. Well, they're also like actual, like, teenagers in this movie, like their main goal is they want to go to high school. Yes. Yeah, that was a little different. I didn't mind it just because it's something different from the regular turtle things I'm used to, which is fine. It's a nice iteration. And I think there's like
00:48:47
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enough room to see a version where they pretty much get to be integrated into
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society really early instead of later when they sort of have to when there's other mutants and other shit going on where the turtles are the least of the human world's problems. The only thing I feel is that this movie feels like it could have been two movies.
00:49:13
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Right? The beginning part where Superfly feels awesome, but then it's like, oh wait, there's still more movie left. Now Superfly is like doing another thing and there's like a kaiju battle. Whoa. In itself, it should have been another thing.
00:49:32
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and then like the uh the spider-man was it was spider was it amazing spider-man uh or like what would the crane thing where they like like it's like new york like makes the push all the cranes and shit like they ripped off that that scene like that scene where it's like new york new york protects the soul man like that doesn't happen in new york no like it i don't know why they always keep thinking that where it just hey yeah it's like hey the fight for new york
00:50:01
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So I get it. It's a kids movie, end of the day, so I get why they needed this grand gesture of everyone teaming up, New Yorkers and all that. I just thought it was hilarious, because I saw it coming, where all it took was one guy to just run into this, and now all these New Yorkers are just honorary ninjas. Yep. The other thing is,
00:50:28
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I did, I don't know, it's kind of weird that the ninja lore part puts a back burner to everything. Splinter this time around isn't from a ninja school. He sort of is winging his parenthood. He has no reason for the other part. And the movie's really aware of that. It's where we're even...
00:50:57
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Splinter's sort of like, let's just go home and ignore what's going on. I don't mind the cynic Splinter. It's very different, and you have to get used to it. And they learn all their karate from instructional videos and martial arts movies. Yeah, whatever they're learning from is insanely good.
00:51:17
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Seriously, like, whatever Splinter learned, like, like, I mean, like the ones, the ones here where he gets to go like full Jackie Chan and I, which I love, I love they actually made it like a Jackie Chan action sequence, right? He's like using props and like, you know, flipping around, like flipping off of like chairs and like, you know, going rolling across like, you know, desks and stuff. Like they made like actually like a Jackie Chan scene. You're right. I don't mind that. Like instead of just putting generic Jackie Chan without a Jackie Chan fight,
00:51:47
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You know, I'm thinking he was just going to be a simple voice and then he might do a few moves. This, they really leaned into it. And I liked it. And just like the amateur style in general, it's like so good.
00:52:02
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It's definitely like Spider-Verse inspired, but it's definitely has its own like grungy like notebook, like a kid, kid doing a notebook style. Like, yes. Yeah. Especially when they introduce all the villains where now you see their styles and their shapes and just sort of like the character designs that have, I don't know, misproportioned on purpose. And I didn't mind it. I like.
00:52:30
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I'm not someone that every turtle's iteration has to be a certain look and feel. This was a nice mix up and I prefer if, you know, other forms show up. So it's not just this is the only one for the next like five years. And the one I don't like so far was the other turtle's thing that was like Giant Ralph and it's like
00:52:58
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Oh, Ryze, the TMNT? Ryze, yeah. I wasn't a fan of that, but I haven't given that a shot. I just feel like there are other better versions, only because they got really far in the lore and they did like cool storylines that got dark. Like, you know the Nickelodeon one, the one where it's the CGI Nickelodeon one? Yeah. You know what happens in that one?
00:53:21
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I wanted to go back and watch most of the first season. I dropped off because there was too much stuff going on. I won't spoil it, but it gets dark near the end. They're just like, screw it. Let's just throw everything that we wanted to do with the TNT lore. That's something I'm like, okay, I'm into that.
00:53:49
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I guess it's like a different turtle for a different generation for each group. So I don't mind it. And it definitely made me want to go get that Pizza Hut pizza that I think teamed up with this promotion group. Yeah. I think there's like four different ones. There's four different pizzas? I think so. I think also like Walmart has like frozen pizzas. They're like, you know, maybe you may have pizzas or something. I think I saw the frozen pizza one. I don't know if I want to get that one, but I'm assuming it's professional food.
00:54:17
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I don't think Pizza actually has the turtle pizzas anymore because I was just like a month or two before the movie was out. I see. Oh, on a side note, did you see that Good Burger Arby's meal? Yes. You don't live that far from an Arby's. I don't live that far from an Arby's. Maybe in my next podcast, we'll have an Arby's breakdown of how we felt after the Good Burger too.
00:54:43
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Well, yeah, I mean, Good Burger 2 is next Friday or next Wednesday. So yeah, maybe Wednesday, go get a Good Burger meal and watch Good Burger. Yeah, also, when does Arby's make burgers? Like, out of all places? They've had it on and off for a little bit. It's like the Wagyu beef burger. It's been like a limited time kind of ribbed thing where it's like, oh, we got our burgers back. It's gone. It's back.
00:55:12
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Really? Arby's makes a cheeseburger? I did not know that. Yeah. It's, it's, it's been a kind of like on and off limited thing for like a year, like a couple of years, I think. Okay. Well, uh, and then the other thing I've been watching, I saw the killer on Netflix. Did you see that yet? I haven't seen it yet. I haven't seen it yet though.
00:55:40
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Uh, if you read the comic, it sort of starts with an outline of the comic of what the killer, um, like mentality is because it's narrated through the killer's mind and his sort of detail of what his plans are. So it's, it's written very like neurotically. However,
00:56:06
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how they they definitely like rearrange the plot they made it flow a little too different from my tastes where it's a completely different story i said it's the same idea but it it flows differently than the um the comic because the comic takes its time it explores all those things but the movie kind of rushes through everything just so it seems like one crazy ass week for michael fazbender
00:56:34
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And it's not bad. I feel like the movie's going to do well. People are going to appreciate the cinematography, the Michael Fassbender ranting. Do you remember when they were going to do the X-Men Origins Magneto movie? This would have been it. Just watching Magneto just kill people and then
00:56:57
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sort of just do his hit manning thing. And it's Michael Fazbender is great. He delivers a great performance. And it's convincing because the idea is that anyone can be a killer. And then we're like anyone could kill, but only a few people can like embrace it. It's like the message where humans can like have the capability, like if they need to or like life throws you that direction.
00:57:26
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The thing is, it's how do you live with yourself and then having these rules so you don't go too crazy or you don't, uh, I guess like you have a plan. So it's not like, cause it's like killers, like it always comes back to you just because you just do this doesn't mean like it's done. And he's aware of that. That's why he's very prepared for the plan B scenario.
00:57:51
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And just just the synopsis like it's about a killer with no name He just referred to as the killer half the time if you see his name, it's all aliases based on fake things like based on TV shows And after a job gone wrong he's getting burnt and he's trying to figure out how to survive while kind of getting revenge and then tying up loose ends and
00:58:20
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In the comic book version, it sort of does the same thing, but it's just over a longer period of time. This is just one wacky-ass week, so the pacing feels very frantic, which is fine for a David Fincher movie. If you enjoy things like Fight Club and just the cinematography of it and the tone, it has that attitude, where you're definitely rebelling against society.
00:58:49
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and you're doing in the one thing you're good at. And the thing for him was he was good at killing. They don't really go into it to explain him because then it adds more to his origin, which in the comic they do straight up. The first issue to, I think, third is a lot of explaining why he's this way. And then the movie's just sort of like, okay, he's just generic killer. So it's a little interesting, it's different.
00:59:20
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So I, um, again, enjoy a good action assassin flick. This is right, right up there, but it's two and a half hours long or two hours or something. It's long, but the scope is very, uh, quick. And, and, you know, Netflix and like, apparently like app TV plus and like all the streamers, like if they get like a big director, David Fincher, apparently there's like no oversight. They could just like.
00:59:48
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go as long as you want. Yeah. But she was like, you want to make a three and a half hour long movie? Go ahead. Yeah, I feel that. Um, but the production value, you feel it. The Trent Reznor soundtrack is awesome. It definitely invokes the, the like suspense and the uneasiness, a lot of the music. And that's something that before I even watched the movie, someone wrote online saying that this Trent Reznor is like a master at
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using industrial music to just make it feel fucking like, I don't know, like you're panicked and I didn't get it until I watched it and I was like, whoa. I, maybe because like, I don't know, nothing was going on in my neighborhood. So I was perfectly able to hear everything. And then you get that like, okay, the best way to describe it is, do you remember Hans Zimmer's like eerie string effect he had in Dark Knight where it's like that escalation of tension and you just hear that one string just get louder? Imagine that.
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like, but different instruments and a different kind of wavelength. So instead of like a constant screech, it just has these like, I don't know, panicky rhythms. So it's like trying to put you in the feeling of, of the killer. Again,
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Not too many movies can do that too well. I think one of the movies that I was like, this could be better, but they're doing it all the wrong ways was like Assassin's Club, the one with the Henry Golden one I talked about a few months ago. That's a killer movie. They explained everything real quick. It's the same, almost the same premise of killers doing killer things and trying to deal with being an assassin.
01:01:31
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I don't talk about the music because it was unmemorable and then the plot was like just weirdly convoluted for something that it shouldn't be. And then this was not convoluted. It's very clear and simple and like it's easy to just like empathize.
01:01:51
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I don't know. It's one of those things where they'll definitely be a kind of like, hey, you shouldn't have liked the killer. Like, oh, you're not supposed to like, not, I don't idolize the killer. It's like, yeah, just like, that's, that's like a common thing about Assassin's movement. You can't be like, that guy's a good guy. Like you have to be like, oh, uh, it's unfortunate that it happened. Like he's in this tough situation, but he's an antihero. You know, it's definitely that category of antiheroes that you shouldn't like, I don't know.
01:02:20
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Don't emulate them. Don't emulate, no. Half the shit he's doing is just like, uh, the beginning's pretty awesome. He's like, yeah, I'm just an average guy. Like he even states in the beginning, like I'm no one special. I, I, but you know, I think it's supposed to be like contradicting because it's like no one on average has this preparedness for something that doesn't involve killing, but
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Yeah, I think he's even aware that like, oh, like I can make mistakes. Like I'm human. Like he explains that to just nobody. It's just his way of thinking. And I guess the last note, I hope you like the Smiths, the band. The soundtrack is basically like Trent Reznor and then the Smiths. Just get ready for Morrissey's like haunting vocals and then just sort of like awkward cuts because like,
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Uh, Michael Fazbender is a huge fan of The Smiths in this movie. But, uh, yeah, I definitely don't recommend it. Definitely just like throw it on. It's definitely a movie you can't just be on your phone and watch just because you're supposed to just experience the, the like set of shots and the, um, the, there's a lot of action, but it's like paced out really well. So it doesn't feel like it's constant, like a John Wick movie or anything like that.
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Yeah, that's it for me. Well, I think something you and I both saw, Chris, was the season finale of Loki. Oh, OK. We'll get into that. Oh, yeah. Three Musketeers as well. Yes, both of those. But yeah, Loki season two, I think we both thought it was pretty great. Yeah, just end it there.
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Yeah, yeah, definitely. Yeah, like there's something like, oh, is there gonna be a season three? Like it does not need a season three. Like just, where would you even go? Like you would just like ruin everything you set up and like ended on, like it ends up like a perfectly great note for like Loki and everybody. Like another season would just ruin all of that probably. Yeah, they were trying to insert plot that doesn't need inserting. And then what you do is,
01:04:38
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unravel how you can feel how Marvel was kind of pulling back on having Kang be more and more prevalent and now if they introduce someone else that's like a he who remains or something convoluted that is a big bad you can't do that in Loki. Loki has a complete arc if he comes back it's more like a cameo or like another actor could play him but you don't need him to
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come down from where he is and then just sort of like solve crime. Like, you know, like what, what, why would he do that? Yeah. Cause he's, cause he's like, you know, the God of time now or whatever, whatever, whatever he is. So the God of the multiverse. I'm trying to understand the one thing, which I it's like, I'm not trying to look into much because you're crazy. Is that he's a variant that's been plucked out of that time.
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Then he got double plucked because then he got removed from normal timeline from that machine they made in the first part where he started glitching. Yeah. Then he decided he can control the glitch so he has to go forward or he goes backwards in time to alter the future so that his what he can glitch forward to doesn't exist anymore. Is that it?
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Like he managed to break the timeline that he was on. And then he, because I mean, the one thing I'm like, again, it's supposed to be like endless. He just sits outside of time. But before that, he could always kind of rewind and fast forward to certain points, which amazing. Like the movie does a good job of explaining consequence and then be like,
01:06:35
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Well, I wasn't consequence and I love the bit of like, um, yeah, because like the last episode, especially as like very like Groundhog Day.
01:06:45
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But I love the bit where he's like, how long would it take to learn physics, like as much as you know. It's like, you know, Kiki Quan, he's like, I don't know, 1,000 years, and then it's like 1,000 years later. It's like, look, he just puts like 1,000 years just like learning all physics, all like, all also like technological knowledge. And I just love when he like shows up again and just like, just like spouting like techno babble, and everyone's just like, oh yeah, that's right. That's right.
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I don't know how he knows it, but he's right. Yeah, just to kind of get the plot moving. I did appreciate that. So he built that other one. He showed up and built it and was like, are we having already? We just throw it on and turn the switch. It was different. It was definitely like as a time fan, as a loop, as a logic and consequence guy. I thought it was great.
01:07:42
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The only thing is, again, this is why both me and you both agree, where if they go any further, it just undoes the whole cause and consequence rule that they just established. And that's been firmly established. The only thing I could see if they ever have to redo something is he has to go back and then kill Sylvia then to make the other sense. There's not too many options.
01:08:08
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You know, the only thing like if they want actually if they didn't want to continue this, like don't make it low key anymore. Just do like change the name of the show, like TVA or something. You just have like just follow everyone on TVA. Like, I mean, I would definitely be up for like more like, you know, Keyquan and like all the other like everyone's like Owen Wilson, if he like unretires, like if like Mobius unretires and comes back or something or. Well, he didn't they didn't wipe his memory. He can. Yeah, he can. Yeah, he can still come back and then get plucked out of the timeline again from his
01:08:38
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universe i guess is branch and it's yeah then sylvie can like show up and help them and hundred b-15 like that that crew can like do something casey so yeah i didn't mind that i like the tight knit crew but then at that point it became two different shows one was just loki doing the time warping and the other crew running the tva and i know you're right i think you could do a spin-off of a spin-off and just have the tva
01:09:06
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take place in the future maybe or whatever the time frame is in the current like you don't need a TVA every constant season was every five months there's a or every seven months is a new TVA season I prefer like whatever phase we're in we have a TVA update so to sort of explain things and do multiverses of what's currently there
01:09:31
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The worst thing I could see is if Marvel burns out on multiverse and variants and then they just never revisit again for like, or like a super long ass time. And then like, you just like forget that like there's a, there's alternate branches from the holy timeline, wherever they call it. And then like all these things that they establish. Yeah. And then Moki sort of just holding these branches, just sort of like, all right, like,
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I sacrifice myself to hold these branches, keep making branches, whatever.
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Ain't all the time that we're going to grow grew and then that's like is holding them now is like in like the tree, the time tree. And there will be any more, there will be any more new ones. Like all the ones that we're going to like grow are grown now. So we're, we're in an MCU universe that's one of these branches and then that's it.
01:10:48
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Yeah, yeah, yeah the MCU proper is definitely one of the multiverse branches and then I guess the Sony Spider-Man universe is another branch because that's Yeah, that one needs to get blown up like yeah, throw one of those time bombs that prunes a branch If we could I would make a shirt that's just like the terrible Sony movies and just have like just as like pruning these branches or something
01:11:16
Speaker
And then like, yeah, and then like, tell me why your Spider-Man universe is like, it exists in Andrew Garfield. Andrew Garfield is either like, it's either his own universe or he's like, will eventually be the Spider-Man of like the Sony Spider-Man universe or something, but it's. They were still using Subway tokens in Andrew Garfield, yeah, Garfield universe, so I don't know.
01:11:49
Speaker
But it'd be fun if we just insert TVA agents in other Sony movies, so it's like, oh, it's getting ruined. Yeah, like at the end of Venom 3, they show up just like, this universe is over. Because you know how when they did the Avengers Endgame, where all the portals opening, and they saw all the different fake multi-universe things pop out? Yes. Same concept, just TVA agents blowing up all the other
01:12:16
Speaker
You know, like old Marvel stuff that they just abandoned. There's like a clip like Ben Affleck's Daredevil and they just like blow it up. I mean, they can do that over the dumb flash bubble where they just, the world's collided through each other.
01:12:36
Speaker
Yeah, who knows? But hopefully, you know, this is such a great ending for Loki as a character. Yeah, I mean, I would say like maybe like maybe like a cameo at some point in the future. Does he have to go at like ask him something or like that? Like go like at a time and like consult with him or something? But like, yeah, no, we definitely don't need to like we got to get Loki back. We got to get him back out of like like the end of time. We need this help again. Like, no, no, please. God, no. We're getting the revenge is back. Yeah.
01:13:10
Speaker
But speaking of Disney stuff, yeah, Chris, you hit the data. We also watched the 1993 Three Musketeers movie for our latest commentary, which will be going up next week for Thanksgiving and Black Friday, that holiday time. It celebrated its 30th anniversary this month. It came out on November 12, 1993. And yeah, definitely a fun rewatch. It's been a while since I think either of us had seen it.
01:13:40
Speaker
Oh yeah. So one thing jumped out to me, a lot of stuff jumped out to me, but one of them was like, this movie is so episodic. It's like these very self-contained 20-minute segments of just like, D'Artagnan is captured by Cardinal Richelieu now, and he's in prison for 20 minutes. Now he has to deal with Rebecca Des Moines, the lady.
01:14:09
Speaker
but now they're in a bar, wenching. And there's long stretches where the actual three Musketeers disappear. I forgot how much of a Chris O'Donnell movie, this is a Chris O'Donnell movie, featuring the Musketeers. Yeah, I definitely forgot that. I always thought there were more scenes together all hanging out, but it really is just,
01:14:38
Speaker
Chris O'Donnell like stumbling upon every pivotal moment Well, yeah, but the actual most like it's like keep yourself and Charlie Sheen over a plant They like they definitely just like fade out. They like it's like hey, we're piecing out for like half an hour 20 minutes. Whatever. We'll be back later I Don't know if the book is like that to where it just filed our Hanyan for a while. I
01:15:03
Speaker
I've never read the original novel, so I don't know. But I have seen every major Musketeers adaptation, but I've never read the actual original novel. But I feel like definitely in other adaptations, I feel like they're together for most of it. They're like a quartet for most of the movie or most of the TV series.
01:15:36
Speaker
Uh, but yeah, I think the movie still kind of holds up. Oh yeah. It's super, super fun. Like, like tons of like great, like fun, like swashbuckling stored action, like horse chases, carriage chases, um, like absolute peak Tim Curry, just like hamming it up and like devouring scenery. Well, it was like delicious lines. He's like delivering just like all for one and more for me.
01:16:03
Speaker
We mentioned it where you don't hire Tim Curry to be restraint you hire him to just be As theoretical and as Kind of like over the top as possible. It's great Yeah, well, I think I think I think we were talking about to like this is this is like a this like this is like a run of like I
01:16:26
Speaker
going from like, like he was like, like 1990 onward, like it was like, he was Pennywise, and then Home Alone 2, and then this, and then like Laundry Silver and Muppet Treasure Island. And then Congo, throw Congo in there. Like, I mean, this is like absolute peak tip curry.
01:16:51
Speaker
like kind of his powers to Curry. Oh yeah. And plus he is unbelievably horny in this movie. Well, the whole, the whole movie is like, this is like one of the horniest Disney movies ever made. Like when we talk about like, but like, yeah, like all, like I think every, every woman in the movies is like pouring, like they like in like super, super tight courses, like just like pouring out of like their courses. There's like Rebecca DuVernay's cleavage is like the like most ridiculous cleavage and like a Disney movie ever made. Like
01:17:18
Speaker
She is first introduced with Mr. Cleavage. It wasn't even like... And there's like, just like the shot, like the camera shot is like looking straight down into her cleavage. I was like, come on, Disney, just a little subtlety. Did you not learn anything from Dick Tracy? And then like Gabrielle noir is like, you know, like taking a bath in like the night where he just walks in and she's like in a bathrobe and like, he's just like being sporty and like... Another side note, Zach, have you ever taken like a
01:17:49
Speaker
a bath that had that soapy water where it basically looks like milk. Was that some, I'm trying to, the Mr. Bubble's were like, um, I don't know, like French. Yeah. Like Royal Royal. Yeah. Like skincare. I never understood that. Like even as a kid, it's like, we either have like, it's a little soapy, but see-through or Mr. Bubble spilled in your bathtub and it's just like a washing machine. And I never figured out how to do that. Like, I don't know. Elegant.
01:18:18
Speaker
hot tub, like look, you know, just not a thing. I remember seeing that as a kid going like, what is she in, you know, and as an adult now, like, oh, that water sits there for probably days because they didn't like throw out bathwater yet. And we talked about it like that bathroom that's just like furnished with like wool and like a bath pillow or just like what is going on in this area?
01:18:46
Speaker
That bathtub sits on straight carpet. We're like gross. Yeah. The other weird thing too is like, um, I completely forgot. It's like, it's like, it's like Julie Delpy.
01:18:56
Speaker
is Constance, who's supposed to be like D'Artagnan's love interest, and they have like five minute screen time together. D'Artagnan kind of saves them in the beginning of the movie, or tries to save them, and then they never talk to each other again until the end of the movie, and then they have a kiss at the end, and it's like, oh! Does D'Artagnan even remember that she exists, or what her name is, or anything? It's like, oh hey, it's you!
01:19:22
Speaker
yeah and you like we remember more of the bar wench where he learns to wench and it's this like band more chemistry yeah and also and also like um
01:19:38
Speaker
like very crazy like tonal shifts where it's like it'll be like we're talking about yeah it's like it's like wacky like we're gonna teach you how to pick up women in a bar we're singing we're singing songs and like cut like you were sort of just like drinking it like alone like it's like to like my what my what I killed I had to kill my wife my wife left me like my wife betrayed me so I was told she died even though I wanted her to look yeah
01:20:09
Speaker
I mean, it made sense for his character and it kinda explained his whole, like, why he hates things. He's the brooding one. He's the brooding musketeer. Yeah. Everyone else is having way too much fun, except him. Yeah. Which, and that culminates in, like, a crazy, like, super serious scene that, like, I think I immediately cut to, like, something, like, wacky afterwards.
01:20:40
Speaker
But yeah, you can check out all of that next week when the commentary goes up. So head over, be sure your professional site checked it out. I think they'll probably be up on Black Friday. So you can, after your Thanksgiving festivities, you can watch Juma's Theaters with us. And then, you know, other more Disney stuff. So I saw the Marvels this week. One of the few people that saw the Marvels.
01:21:10
Speaker
It was not, but I also saw it on Monday, which I usually go on Mondays anyway, but like, but I mean, I hope it does well, but you know, I think that the true test is going to be this weekend. If it has like a massive drop off, like it's going to be a disaster. Cause I think it costs like $250 million or something like some kind of like
01:21:33
Speaker
on par with like haunted mansion or india and jones dale destiny style like massive like bloated budget and like 40 like what was it 47 million dollars something that's opening 46 million dollars this opening weekend like the lowest opening ever for the mcu and that was something gets like hunger games this weekend so i don't know box house wise uh things don't look too good for the marbles but i will say it's not a total disaster it definitely is a mess like um there's like some parts where it's just like
01:22:04
Speaker
Like, I don't know what happened. Because I think there's a bunch of reshoots and rewrites. And one play must have been longer, and they cut stuff, and had scenes just explain what was happening, or just had flashbacks explain things. But basically, the main premise is that there is a Cree
01:22:28
Speaker
Basically, the person who took over after Roden got killed, Darben, who's played by Zoe Ashton. She's the leader of the Kree. But then the Kree homeworld has been devastated by a civil war, so now she is looking for
01:22:47
Speaker
The Quantum Bands, which one of them is the bangle that gave Kamala her powers in Ms. Marvel. And then Darmod Fonz, the other one. And then she's trying to open the jump gates that she jump between points of the universe. It's how the Guardians teleport to the universe and everything.
01:23:08
Speaker
And then she's like, oh, so like dark beds, like ripping openings, like, like not sanctioned jump, like jump gates to like rip natural resources from other planets to like bring the teleport them to the holla. Which is basically, I see other people have pointed this out, but it's basically it's basically like the plot of Spaceballs. What?
01:23:30
Speaker
We're like, you know, President Scroob is like, we just steal their air from, like, because we ran out of air. Is that legit what happens, is stealing, like, planetary resources? That is literally the plot, is that Darbren is, like, she's opening, like, these, like, teleportation gates, and she's, like, stealing, like, air and water and, like, other resources from other planets to, like, teleport into Holop, because Holop needs them to, like, restore itself.
01:23:57
Speaker
So she's like, I'm stealing the atmosphere from this planet and then teleporting it to like Holla so that Holla can have an atmosphere again because the atmosphere is like destroyed. And then because of like, like she opens these like jump points and then, you know, crazy coincidences happen and then so like,
01:24:22
Speaker
So like Carol Danvers, Monica Rambo, Kamala Khan, they all get their powers entangled with each other because of like, because Dhar Ben has like a quantum band, and Kamala has a quantum band, and all their powers kind of get tangled together because they all kind of like touch and jump point at the same time. It's kind of like, it's this big cosmic coincidence, they all kind of get mixed together. And so whenever they use their powers, they like trade places.
01:24:48
Speaker
Like, were they climbing? Or, like... So, yeah, so, like, if, like, so, say, like, you know, Monica and Carol use their powers at the same time, they'll switch places. Anywhere in the universe, too. It's like, if, like, if Carol's on, like, the other planet, and the Kamala uses her powers, they'll, like, switch places, and, like, Kamala ends up, like, some, like, alien planet, and, like, Carol ends up on Earth. Whoa. Which that was, that was, like, supposedly, like, Ms. Marvel, that was, like, the cliffhanger of Ms. Marvel was, like, Kamala and...
01:25:17
Speaker
Carol switched places, and Carol was in Kamala's bedroom being like, wait, what? What the hell? So they're going to force the team up to figure out what's going on with their powers, and also stop Darbin. And then also, like, Samuel Jax is there on the Sabre space station, which
01:25:42
Speaker
I feel like Nick Fury is the biggest example why this movie is kind of a mess. I guess supposedly or allegedly it's supposed to take place after Secret Evasion, but Samuel Jackson in this movie is a totally different character than
01:25:59
Speaker
we saw a secret invasion, unless something drastically changed for him and he did an outlook on life changed drastically, and he got some sort of self-care routine or something. Because in secret invasion, he was like broken. I'm too old. I have 20 failures. I failed everyone. I failed my Skrull allies. This is my last mission or whatever. He was super defeated, super depressed,
01:26:28
Speaker
dour and then in the marvels he's like like super like quippy and vivacious and like like lively you just like it's like it's just like if you saw secret invasion like and you watch and then you watch this it's like this is this is not the same nickfury at all like i don't know what happened between that and this but like this is like not at all like just not leading to that at all
01:26:53
Speaker
Does he also look younger? He feels younger, he feels like nothing in Secret Invasion happened. He's just like, hey, I'm on a space station, it's awesome. What's up, Captain Marvel? It kind of feels like they got someone told the writers and the creative team of the Marvels, oh, yeah, this is what's going to happen in Secret Invasion. And they were working off that.
01:27:23
Speaker
And then they changed it, and if they didn't tell the Marvels team that they were changing it. And then, so they're working out this weird, more upbeat version of Secret Invasion, and then the Secret Invasion team made it, it turned into a super dour, serious espionage thriller or whatever. But then they're working out this, oh, it's a super fun, Nick Fury's making quips and joking and stuff, and everything's fine.
01:27:50
Speaker
And also, there's also like scroll stuff in here that does not match up or lie up to anything in the Secret Invasion. It's like, no mention of anything that happened in Secret Invasion. It kind of feels like also there was like a Captain Marvel sequel that happened that we never saw. Because a lot of the emotional backstory and the dramatic plot backstory happens off screen or happened before this movie started or happens in the flashbacks.
01:28:19
Speaker
Because apparently, after the first Captain Marvel, Carol was flying around doing a bunch of stuff. And all that stuff that we never saw is the main driving force behind everything that's happening in this movie. And then we only see these really brief flashbacks where Carol has a monologue like, well, this is what I was doing after the first movie. And then that's why the crew are mad at me or whatever.
01:28:45
Speaker
But it just feels like there was way more stuff in this movie that got cut out. We had an idea for a Captain Marvel 2 that was just a Captain Marvel movie, not any other characters. It was like a solo Captain Marvel movie. And then we just kind of rejiggered that into this.
01:29:07
Speaker
Because yeah, there's flashbacks and characters talking about things that happened. But we haven't seen any of that previously in anything. But it's also, it's weird too, because all the Ms. Marvel stuff is perfectly aligned with the Ms. Marvel. Ms. Marvel perfectly flows right into this perfectly. It picks up right where that left off. All characters feel exactly the same in that show. It's just such a weird... Some of it is like...
01:29:37
Speaker
totally in line with what happened previously and all her stuff is just like, I don't know where this is coming from or why this is happening or how this lines up with the previous MCU stuff. So this movie just feels like they duct taped together. Because it wasn't supposed to be a TV show and then they just said, screw it, let's do a movie.
01:29:58
Speaker
I don't think it was supposed to be a TV show, but I think it was definitely longer, because they made a big deal. We definitely cut it down and edited it. And there's four weeks of reshoots. So I think what happened is they cut a bunch of stuff out, and they had to reshoot things to explain the stuff they cut out. Did they do the cop-out where it's just a voiceover? Well, there's a lot of scenes. There's these quick flashbacks.
01:30:28
Speaker
Flashbacks, which must have been like longer sequences before, but now they're just like a quick flashback scene. Or Carol or someone else would just like kind of like just like a monologue about like, so yeah, so I was doing this and I did this and I did this and here we are. So it's most like dialogue kind of like explaining like what happened. Like a character is like explaining to the other characters like what happened or why something's happening or what things are.
01:30:59
Speaker
So plot-wise, it's kind of a mess. It definitely feels rushed, or there's definitely chugs missing, and definitely not a lot of coherent talking between different Marvel units. But action-wise, it's pretty fun. The gimmick of them switching is really done super well, and it's super fun for the action sequence, where it's just constantly cutting back and forth between
01:31:28
Speaker
Like, someone will punch someone and then like, all of a sudden someone else will teleport in, have to respond to what happened, or like, someone's fighting two guys, some bad guys, and all of a sudden another person is fighting the bad guys, or like, there's like, wait, who, I'm fighting these guys now? Or like, where am I? So it's like, and then they kind of try to like, control it later on, and there's like, they're going to have fun monitors and try to figure out how to like, control it.
01:31:53
Speaker
So the action and that switching stuff is fun. And then the main trio is also like, they have a really fun rapport, back and forth, funny back and forth. And especially if you're a fan of Amman Vallani from Ms. Marvel, she has that same super excited energy and charm and funniness. And even more so, because now she's working side by side with her hero, Captain Marvel. So she's super fangirling out and just being like,
01:32:24
Speaker
I'm working with Captain Marvel, oh my god. Yeah, I heard she was definitely the breakout star. Yeah. You see this, you see more for her than everyone else. That was definitely what I was going to say for her, just to see the continuation of Miss Marvel, because Miss Marvel ended on that cliffhanger and then was going to lead right into this.
01:32:43
Speaker
And there's also a really fun set up of just a scene right before the end credits, which I won't spoil it, but it's kind of a set up for what you might be doing in the future. And it's probably the best joke of the whole movie. And also, have you heard about the mid-credits scene, Chris? Have not. Is it monumentally spoil-ish?
01:33:07
Speaker
It's um, I don't know what it's what it means or like uh, I mean it's pretty it's pretty big it's like just like it's for like fanservicey, but like I don't know what it means for like the mcu Uh, so don't spoil it, but yeah, definitely definitely uh Possibly interesting like earth shattering things for the mcu or could just be like a one-off like like fanservice like
01:33:31
Speaker
Hey, here's this. All right. And then we'll never reference it again. So I want to wait and see about that. But there is only a big credit. There's no after credits. You don't have to stay for the whole credits. You can like leave it to the big credits. But I would say I don't think it's worth like, I mean,
01:33:52
Speaker
I mean, I guess if you want to go check it out in theaters, it's more fun than bad. It's mostly fun, messy, but it's definitely messy. But I think you can wait till Disney Plus and check it out, too. I don't know if you need to rush out to theaters and see it. But definitely when it's Disney Plus, I would say definitely we're checking out. If you want to just want a fun, light MCU movie with some problems.
01:34:22
Speaker
Like, so far, most of these Marvel movies have, like, issues. And they're forgettable if you don't pay attention. But, you know, if you can treat movies like movies, it becomes very noticeable. And I would say it's definitely better than, like, a lot of the recent stuff. Like, I would say it's definitely better than, like, you know, Secret Evasion. And, like, I think I liked it more than, like, Thor 11 Thunder. And I think I liked it more than, I guess, maybe,
01:34:52
Speaker
on slightly more than like, Quantum Mania. Like, definitely not as good as like, Loki. Or like, and then somebody like, or definitely not as good as Guardians Volume 3. But it's sort of like a recent, like within like the last year or two of Marvel, I would say one of the better MCU entries.
Mind Hunters Movie Discussion
01:35:16
Speaker
And then the last thing is I watched the 2004 movie, Mind Hunters.
01:35:24
Speaker
Remember that one, Chris? The one with Christian Slater that's in it for maybe 10 minutes. Where he gets executive decisions. Yup. Yeah, so I watch just because I listen to a podcast called No Just Thing is a Bad Movie, which has, if you're a regular media fan, Colin from Canada is one of the co-hosts on it. It's kind of like How Does It Get Made-esque. They talk about bad movies and they kind of go through the whole plot and explain them.
01:35:50
Speaker
So my hunters was like the most receptive they were doing. So I was like, oh yeah, my hunters. I remember that movie. I was kind of like, I was like, morbidly curious to watch it because it's always kind of like popped up and like streaming services or it's kind of like around, but I've never seen it. No. So yeah, so finally watched it.
01:36:08
Speaker
It is fun trash, it is not good at all, but it has a lot of ridiculous, goofy, fun stuff in it. Crazy kills and the whole Christian Slater, they're like pissing him to be the main star and he gets killed 20 minutes in by liquid nitrogen.
01:36:30
Speaker
and like his legs go first. Which it feels like he could have like maybe moved out of the way like it like it it takes it takes like a while for like it's too late to take a little bit for like your legs to freeze completely but he's just like he's just like standing there taking like this liquid nitrogen and spraying on his leg just like don't come any closer! And he falls like bricks apart. Yeah he basically gets demolition man at the end. Yeah.
01:36:59
Speaker
And that's like, like, Val Kilmer is there. It's like, they're like, they're like, they're like teacher or professor or whatever, because they're all this team of like, mind hunters or like, like criminal profilers. And they're like, they're like,
01:37:14
Speaker
on their last kind of their last big training mission before they become like actual like FBI agent profilers. And then Velkimer has this whole like, apparently he does this like all the time, like he just like has his ION that he like sends people to. He like rents or like borrows from like the Navy. And then like sets up like these elaborate like crazy like kill crime scenes and like has them try to solve like serial killers.
01:37:40
Speaker
But except this time, there's actually a killer that's killing all of them one by one. Now they're the one who's hunted. Yeah, they're being mind hunted. But yeah, it's like, and then they realize like, oh, the killer is using our weaknesses against us. Like he's mind hunting us. Like he knows our weaknesses, our talents.
01:38:05
Speaker
And then it's, but it's, it's like, it's like sort of really, it's like what they're like. Cause it's like one of the guys like apparently like loves coffee and then they all get drunk. They get drugged with their coffee and then they, when they wake up, like that guy's headache got cut off, cut off and then his blood drained out. I get it. Like they're FBI agents, but that killer really had it out for him.
01:38:29
Speaker
Yeah, well, I mean, I mean, spoilers like like Johnny Lee Miller is a killer doing it and he's like doing a horrible Texas accent, like like one of the worst accents you've ever heard in a movie. Which I mean, obviously, you know, Johnny Lee Miller, very, very British.
01:38:49
Speaker
Uh, and then yeah, trying to do like a, like a Texas drawl that does not work at all. And he never, and, and then his, his like reasoning for like being the, being a killer is like so vague. It's just, he tries to explain at the end. It was just like such a vague, like I, I killed my parents and I liked it so much. I, I, I, I wanted to like.
01:39:08
Speaker
Chase that high. So I joined the FBI to catch worthy prey. I went to the Mine Hunters. How did he pass the psychic valve? Wouldn't they just be like, FBI, just be like, no. Yeah. And then I guess the reasoning is he drugged everyone, but then he didn't drug himself. And then he had five or six hours rig up all these Saw-style traps or rig up all these remotes and detonators
01:39:38
Speaker
Yeah, like traps and like laced cigarettes with acid and all this other stuff. And then, like, put these, like, clues on everyone's jackets to, like, try to, like, throw everyone off, like, putting blood under, like, like, Catherine Morris from Cold Case. Like, she's, like, the main character, like, putting, like, blood from, like, Christmas later under her nails. So, like, everything sets her. Yeah, I remember her. She was, like, I think after this she did Cold Case. Or is it before Cold Case?
01:40:08
Speaker
I think it was before, and then it's just sort of like, I don't know if they were trying to make her like, and then she left it on like Minority Report. But then, yeah, then she kind of was like Cold Case, and that was it. Cold Case was like, I think it was like the year, actually, because they filmed this in 2002, but it didn't come out until 2005. So by the time this came out, she was, but she's already in Cold Case for like two years or something. So by that time, she was like, yeah, I'm Cold Case now. I don't do movies anymore.
01:40:39
Speaker
But she hasn't been in a few things ever since then. I don't know why she's in. Yeah. Reverie, whatever that show is, she was like a serious regular for 10 episodes. She was in Bone Tomahawk. And The Dirt. Like Molly Crew movie.
01:41:05
Speaker
No, definitely cold case is what everyone knows from now. Not miners. Miners were not like thruster, like super stardom. And then, I think the one thing, I'm kind of surprised, like Ella Cool J's lines and his stuff hasn't become a meme or kind of a cult favorite thing. Because his lines are so fucking ridiculous. I don't understand. Just his whole character.
01:41:35
Speaker
Up until a certain point, it's like, oh, he's just like the lone wolf or like trying to be the tough guy. And yeah, and it's just like he snaps. Well, they're like, he's the red herring. They're trying to make him because like, he's the outsider. So like, oh, this this new guy, the Infiltrator group is like, and people are dying. And like, there's this new weird, like this guy who's like joined us for like the last minute is like here.
01:41:57
Speaker
So it's obviously he might be the killer. He's probably the killer. And then they prove that he's not, but then he still snaps anyway. And just like, well, if I'm not killer, you guys are the killer. I'm going to kill everybody. He's got lines where he's like, Edie, me, me, me, Mo, who's the next motherfucker to go?
01:42:20
Speaker
Like, when they killed, when they killed Johnny Lee Miller at the end, it's just like, well I guess we found out his weakness. Bullets. I forgot that's a line. That's an actual line in the movie. It's so funny. I'm also, I'm also shocked like, like how this game has not done this movie yet. Like this, this seems like this- The thing is, it's not like the worst movie. Oh no, it's-
01:42:48
Speaker
Well, it's it's it's super entertaining, but it's it's it's so clearly like trash and bad, but like it's like fun bed where it's like you're like the kills are ridiculous and fun. And then like all the actors are like are just like chewing scenery and like like it was like constant Mexican standoffs and like. So it's like a super easy watch. It's like it's super entertaining, but it's not good. I kind of remember the trailers had been like new metal soundtrack.
01:43:18
Speaker
The actual movie doesn't have New Metal. It has Matrix-C kind of electronics music, but if they had New Metal, it would take it to another level. If they had some sort of saliva song or a stage song or something. It definitely needed a New Metal montage song or something.
01:43:44
Speaker
Because it was because it was definitely that definitely in the era of like, yeah, every every movie is as like a new metal soundtrack. And also, I think they shot like the shot is like right around the same time, like it was in production around the same time as like Saw One.
01:44:03
Speaker
And it definitely kind of feels like, it's just sort of like alternate universe, like this is like Saw fail and this succeeded or something, because they're very similar as far as like, oh, this like killer with like elaborate traps. But yeah, I would say definitely, if you've never seen My Hunters, you want to see like a fun, bad, like action thriller, definitely check it out.
Podcast Wrap-up and Promotion
01:44:36
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And that's going to do it for this week. So you can wrap things up. Definitely head over to the site. We got all of our usual news, reviews, features. I got a review of the Marvels. You want to read the review of the Marvels. You can check that out there. We got all the trailers we talked about this week up on the sites. And thank you so much for next week. You can come back and check out our Three Musketeers commentary. They'll be up probably Friday next week. And you can check out previous commentaries as well and the previous episodes of the podcast up there.
01:45:04
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However, it's interesting to check all this stuff out. And yeah, so for Chris, I'm Zach, and we will see you next time. For more Everything Action, head to www.everythingaction.com. You can also follow us on Twitter, at evaction, on Facebook by searching for Everything Action, and follow us on Instagram, at everything.action. You can also subscribe and get more episodes on Stitcher, Apple Podcasts, and Spotify.