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Demon Slayer: S3 Episodes 8 + 9
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We play catch up on Demon Slayer's Swordsmith Village Arc as the season nears it's finale! Two episodes to go!
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Introduction to Demon Slayer Season 3 Episodes 8 & 9
00:00:01
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On another exciting episode of the Animation Deliberation podcast, the mist is clearing as we get some backstory and incredible action with our mist, Hashira. We're covering season three, episode eight and nine of Demon Slayer. Right after these ads, we have no control over. Sing along if you know the words. One, two, three, it's time for animation deliberation. A conversation and a celebration of our favorite action animated series.
Podcast Introduction by Hosts
00:00:28
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Yeah. Yeah. Welcome back to another episode of Animation Deliberation, the podcast where we take action animation and cartoon seriously, but not too seriously. We are your hosts. I am Zuhara Lee. My name's Jay Scotty Sinclair. And I am Andrew Rogers.
Muichiro's Backstory and Emotional Impact
00:00:42
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And we've got a lot to catch up with in regards to the entertainment district. We got two stories that are covering Mr. Muichiro very heavily. And you guys wanted some sick animation. The sick animation is here.
00:00:57
Speaker
Yes, I forgot how much happened in these two episodes. And then I watched them back to back. And I'm just like, oh, we got some dark, heavy backstory. And that was like, you know, main character wasn't there, but it was an hour of content on content on content. And I'm just amazed. Overflowing, if you will. Yeah, we knew some flashbacks and backstories were going to factor into the season at some point or another. And this is where we got the majority of it.
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00:02:34
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Muichiro vs Gyoko: Battle and Memory Recovery
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All right, so on with the show, we're going to be talking about season three, episode eight, the Moo and Mooichiro. Mm hmm. So kicking off with the synopsis.
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Though he escapes, Muichiro grows weak and numb from Gyoko's poison needles. Seeing Kotetsu about to be attacked and unable to move, his life flashes before his eyes and he regains his memories. The son of a woodcutter, he became orphaned after his mother fell ill and his father went out to get medicinal herbs, dying on his trip. His older twin brother, Yuichiro, cynical and bitter over their deaths, raised Muichiro, but remained cold and distant from him.
00:04:33
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A visit from Kageya's wife Amane to recruit them into the core only provokes Yuichiro, launching him into a tirade about the fruitlessness of helping others and how they are fated to join their parents in dying a worthless death. One night, a demon found them and mortally wounded Yuichiro. Yuichiro, in a blinding rage, defeated the demon and witnessed his brother's last moments, apologizing to him and praying he will survive. The traumatic memories caused marks to appear on his face, augmenting his speed and strength.
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He rescues Kotetsu and makes his way to save Haganazuka and Kanamori. Gyoko, shocked that he has escaped with similar marks to Tanjiro, uses multiple attacks but discovers Muichiro can match him blow for blow. And for this week's episode, Season 3 Episode 9, Missed Hashira Muichiro Tokito.
00:05:23
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While confronting Gyoko, Muichiro succeeds in insulting his art, enraging him. After his blood demon arts are overpowered, he reveals his true form, a large merman-like being with lethal touch, before attacking him at a frenzy after he continues to insult him with a stoicism. Muichiro remembers how Amane had fought and saved him after the demon's attack and how he trained relentlessly to become stronger, his unbridled rage continually moving him forward.
00:05:51
Speaker
Using his augmented speed and misbreathing, Morichiro evades and overwhelms Gyoko's perception before finally beheading him. As his mark fade, he quickly reels from exhaustion and the poison's effects. Kanamori aids him and is joined by Kotetsu, who is saved from being stabbed by Rengoku's hilt, guard within his shirt.
00:06:10
Speaker
which Tanjiro had given him to put on his new sword. Muichiro cries, being reminded of his lost friend and is comforted by visions of his family. Elsewhere, Tanjiro struggles with the demon of hatred, having his eardrums burst and his left foot crushed by the dragon using the clone's abilities. He is snatched by one and nearly killed when Mitsuri arrives and slices its head apart, saving him, before making her way to save Nezuko and Genya.
Emotional Depth of Demon Slayer Characters
00:06:36
Speaker
It's cool being able to cover these two episodes together because they are so heavily tied in with Moishiro. If I haven't said it enough, you guys listeners really need to watch, rewatch the episode where the Hashira meet for the first time in the series because one of the things that they really emphasize was that the only two people who really survived the Demon Slayer Corps are those who have gone through tragedy and lived through it and have that willingness to fight, or they have generations of family.
00:07:03
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that have been training each other to be able to have this role. So knowing that a majority of these people have come from trauma in some sense, and seeing not only Genya and his brothers, but now what Muichiro went through, it's like,
00:07:18
Speaker
we see how devastating these stories are over and over again. And it's still like just hits you right in the feels and you got to watch it for every new character. Like it's just, they, they make the stories unique. They make them, they make you feel for them emotionally. And it's very hard hitting, but
00:07:36
Speaker
Seeing how this character specifically has come out from it there's a lot more from his family history that we still need to learn but seeing how he's come from what he's had to go through and how powerful he is and seeing Like he I don't think he was under hyped at all like sure He didn't have like the fact that he was able to do as much as he did with a chipped blade and being poisoned was super impressive But then seeing like full-fledged like what he's capable of doing was just really really cool. I
00:08:05
Speaker
I mean, it goes without saying, he did the most casual killing of an upper moon demon that we have seen. Like, I sat there like, Oh, his head's gonna reattach. You know, we've done this before. Okay, this is not actually his final form. And then he just cuts the head in half. It's like, Oh, no, Muichiro might just be the most powerful Hashiro that we have seen bar none like to see him come out so blazin so hot was
00:08:30
Speaker
I mean, it was breathtaking. And again, just like stopped you in your tracks because you didn't believe that it was happening. But yeah, the backstory was. We got a lot more than I thought we were going to get, but it was very gripping, even if it wasn't surprising, like kind of, you know, you knew it was going to be tragic, like you said, but it still held so much weight and, you know, push this character forward, especially finding out that he does actually have a secret brother. You know, we'd kind of been guessing that for a while.
00:08:57
Speaker
But no, it was so good. And then I do know I saw it was either an article or a post two weeks ago. They apparently brought back the team of animators that worked on Entertainment District Episode 10, a.k.a. the big Gyataro fight scene. And they worked on the backstory episode, hence why it might be one of the most beautiful episodes we've seen in a while.
00:09:20
Speaker
the rain scenes and the water physics and all of the things that were going on. I don't know if they're here for any other episodes this season, but I do know it was basically like, all right, we need the big guns to make you cry during backstory. Like that was when they decided to bring them out.
00:09:35
Speaker
That's great resource allocation. I even saw something the other day where that whole fight scene was actually just four pages in the manga. Yes. So now like, like, I don't want to look into it myself, but the listeners who read the manga, like I want to know like how dragged on this movie hero fight actually was or if he did just like cut them off quick.
00:09:55
Speaker
Yeah, I agree with a lot of what's brought up so far. It wasn't surprising at all that the story was tragic, as you said. The thing that was most surprising to me is Muitra's personality. We've seen him be so detached and so vacant to see that he was
00:10:11
Speaker
a real sweetheart and kind of soft, not in a bad way necessarily, but really emotional. I didn't expect to see that from his character at all, and it really brought into light how he kind of inhabited his brother's cynicism and detached nature once he became
00:10:29
Speaker
once he lost his memories, I'll say, but yeah, I think that siblings and the relationships between, you know, siblings, be it brothers and brothers, brothers and sisters, whatever that's that continues to be a very strong theme of the show. And that's what kind of really spoke to me like I have a number of siblings and I have a brother and
00:10:50
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we've been the best of friends and the worst of enemies. So to see these two brothers that love each other but have a hard way, or at least one of them has a hard way of expressing that until his final moments, that was what really resonated with me. The moment when Moitra really stepped into his own and took out Gyotaro, not Gyotaro, Gyoko so easily, it was a badass moment and it was awesome how easily he did that.
00:11:18
Speaker
when Giyoko was like ranting and raving about like, how is this happening? And he just like sliced and diced the head. I loved it and hated it because it was a bad-ass moment when he was like, why don't you just go to hell already? And it's like, people tell people to go to hell all the time. But he was like, literally like, go to hell now, I've heard enough. Like as great as I was, I really wanted to get some of Giyoko's backstory with all this backstory we got. And he seemed like such an interesting guy with his vanity and
00:11:46
Speaker
his bent towards the artistic and thinking he was this elevated life form and whatnot and just the verbal clash between them was just as great as like the physical clash between them. Oh, I mean, the minute movie cheer got his memories back, he was the sass master. He's putting me to shame at that point. He was going for it.
00:12:09
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So we actually have some feedback that's hitting this conversation that we're having right now from Jonathan Kim. Another great win by the Demon Slayers, but is it just me or did it seem too easy for Muichiro to beat Geoko? He was definitely OP. Mist was definitely an advantage for the Demon Slayer against the Fish Power. I know Muichiro explained that he was serious, but compared to the other fights against Upper Moon, it definitely seemed easier since there was no struggle on the Demon Slayer side.
00:12:35
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Compared to Tanjiro who was always pressured by the demon like
Literal vs Metaphorical Powers in Demon Slayer
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in the end of the episode and then Mitsuri came in to save him. What do you guys think? I guess this just shows how strong the Hashiras are. On a separate note, because of how serious of a character Muichiro is, release how he is portrayed, I love the comedic timing and art of his expression during the dialogue between him and Gyoko. So great. Keep moving forward, Jonathan.
00:13:00
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So my headcanon for that fight was that I thought back to Uzui's fight with Gyotaro and how he needed to find the musical timing because that's just how his technique works.
00:13:14
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So I think it was the same thing with Muichiro is that he was testing to see like how his enemy moves and the pace of how his vase teleports and how his movements and attacks and all that are going before he was able to devise a tactic to move in. And because he's less expressive, we got to see like less paint. I mean, we saw the paint on his face when he was worried about
00:13:42
Speaker
Kotetsu. Yeah, Kotetsu, but not so much when he was just in his own. That's just that's his great warrior poker face. And I think I think there were similarities in just being able to like, you know, jab with your enemy a little to find out where the weaknesses actually lie. And the way that he slashed the face reminded me so much of Trunks against Frieza. Just absolute iconic. And I loved it so much that with how much shit that Guioka was talking, I'm glad that we didn't get a backstory. And he
00:14:12
Speaker
just went straight back to hell. So satisfying. Yeah. Yeah. Good. No, I was gonna say I like where your head's at. And I kind of agree with the head cannon that like, Oh, we've known for a while, this is a powerful Hashira, like he's 14. And he's a Hashira, like he's got to have some skill. I just think the kind of the root of this question, in my opinion, is how anti climactic it felt.
00:14:37
Speaker
Like we've been watching, you know, two to three seasons now of here's an upper rank demon. It is a all out war in order to take this one down, like Akaza destroyed a train, destroyed a forest and killed Rengoku. Gyotaro and Daki took out an entire village and took nearly took out Uzui in the process. Gyoko, who's supposed to be better than Gyotaro,
00:15:05
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just kind of throws fish at people and dies. Like it felt a little, I'm going to use it underwhelming. Like that's really what it was at the end of the day. And I think that's part of why he feels so OP because I can believe that he can actually, you know, take an upper moon down that quickly. I just think comparatively it felt a little, Oh, he's just way too OP. I think that's fair. And I think,
00:15:32
Speaker
You know I did enjoy these pairings of episodes and I've enjoyed the season so far but I think as we get kind of towards the end here it's becoming a little more apparent to me that compared to like previous seasons pacing has been a little bit of an issue for this season like the fact that we haven't seen Mitsuri in
00:15:52
Speaker
like three full episodes and we just see her at the end of this one. I think that's fair. There was something satisfying about like actually just having beheading a demon be enough. And it looked like something was going to happen there. He started to like, you know, regenerate a little bit, but it was kind of like, okay, not every single one of these demons has to have like some crazy trick up their sleeve. And I really do think it just spoke to like his overconfidence, like to quote Star Wars, his overconfidence was his downfall.
00:16:19
Speaker
Muichro said the same to him, what makes you think you're the only one that hasn't been taking this seriously? And that's his fault for not taking it seriously. Something else that came up for me though is like I've talked in the past how
00:16:32
Speaker
it seems like with the emergence of this hate variation of Hauntingu, that the love and hate, that seems like a natural pairing there in terms of fighting. But while Muichir was going up against Gyoko, yeah, the mist and the fish, it seemed like a great foil for it. He was able to dispel all the poison and
00:16:54
Speaker
Take care of the swarm of fish and everything like that. So it seemed like a good match in that regard But the fact that he had been so vacant emotionally Made me kind of think like oh Might it have been more interesting if he went up against the guy that's all about emotions like you have this emotionally vacant character going up against the emotions, but you know, that's I guess that's not how the manga was written. So that's just We got what we got
00:17:21
Speaker
Yeah, I think we're also in a weird position of it feels like we're past the emotions now like only hate is around the others or have been absorbed. So I feel like it would have been good early on. I do have a pivot point that I feel like is kind of a debate that needs to happen here. I want your guys opinion. Where are you on the train of do the powers actually exist? Because I think there has been some conversation recently online of, you know,
00:17:51
Speaker
Tanjiro swings his sword and says fire breathing. Does fire actually come out of his sword or is it just a visual thing for the audience to pick up on?
00:18:02
Speaker
It's a visual thing to help the audience. I think the opposite. Here's the thing. I was with you, Zuhair, until this episode threw a wrench in that plan. Because suddenly he got lost in the mist? Does that mean that he was moving so fast that he couldn't see him? Because that was a big crux of the fight is, oh, the demon was at a disadvantage because suddenly he's caught in the mist. Because I thought it was like, oh, it's supposed to be a visual cue.
00:18:28
Speaker
but now Myst actually exists? Like, what's going on there? How do we explain that one? Yeah, that is the oddball for me, too. I mean, I could bounce back to it just being like the movement and speed and fluidity of how he moved around. Maybe just, like, Gyoko was genuinely having trouble tracking, but I really can't say much out of that. I think they're just trying to find a good balance between the two.
00:18:55
Speaker
Okay. And Jay's got it. You're just fully on the team of like, he says fire, fire coming out of his sword. Yeah. I think I would have been in the other camp, like.
00:19:05
Speaker
Maybe a couple seasons back, maybe like season one I was on that train, but I think more and more it's just become more evident that these things are actually happening. Just thinking back earlier on this season, when his sword was aflame with Nezuko's blood, he actually said something like, oh, my sword is running out of blood or it's no longer on fire anymore. He mentioned the fact that it had been on fire.
00:19:29
Speaker
So that means that Hinokami Kamigara, before that, there wasn't any fire because he's acknowledging the fact that Nezuko's blood has actually given him
Tangible Existence of Powers Debate
00:19:37
Speaker
fire. I think it's open to interpretation.
00:19:40
Speaker
And then the real wrench in the plan is I think the author of the manga has weighed in on this debate, which only sparks more flame to the fire. I think they have said something like, it doesn't exist. But again, the mist is said to exist in this episode. And that's why I'm like, we haven't talked about this. I'm curious where everyone lands. So listener, if you have any strong thoughts to this, please let us know. I'm not just doing this as a call to feedback. I'm like, it's a great conversation because it's confusing. I don't know what to do.
00:20:08
Speaker
It was that, that quote that really got me thinking about it. It's like, huh, they do water stuff a lot, but nobody gets wet. They do the fire stuff a lot, but it is exhausting. He doesn't actually get burned. They're like, there isn't like sitting flames. And then again, Tanjiro brought up the point that his sword literally was on fire because of Nezuko's blood, you know, insinuating that it wasn't before because the fire or flame breathing and, you know, kamikagura don't work that way.
00:20:36
Speaker
But yeah, like there's there's stuff to show that it is just the movement in the fighting style, but the mist did kind of throw that off a bit. I mean, it looks beautiful, so I'm not complaining about any means, but. I'm trying to visualize like what movie shows movements actually would be to justify that. Yeah, I guess if you really wanted to stay in the camp that it's not really there, like maybe there's
00:21:04
Speaker
a way of saying like mist is actually something that is somewhat associated with breathing. Maybe I'm grasping at straws here, but if you breathe heavily enough, you can generate some humidity, so probably not enough to dispel what he was doing there. It's just cold at night. It's just breathing. Yeah, yeah. It's all the steam from the hot baths. There you go. There you go. That's the... We figured it out, gang. We figured out that shit.
Tanjiro's Battle and Mitsuri's Arrival
00:21:32
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Please. Yeah. It was kind of saved towards the end with the continuation of the conflict we had with the hatred demon and Mitsuri arriving on the scene. Tanjiro has been through some harrowing moments and really been taken to the cleaners in terms of getting his ass whooped. But when he was getting crushed by that wooden dragon, I was just like the sound design based with the claustrophobia there. I was like,
00:22:01
Speaker
This that suspended my disbelief a little more so than than other times like it was just like how is he like able to walk after that? Crushed yeah, honestly I thought we were gonna have to watch him go like Super Saiyan here again like he did at the end of last season with every broken bone like well here I go so I'm glad that at least they're
00:22:22
Speaker
letting me believe that Mits resaved him and he didn't save himself because I was like, there's no way he's coming back from this. Nezuko was definitely struggling too. I took that as a little bit of a mix of, you know, bones cracking and just kind of the sound of wood shifting. Yeah, because it was kind of like compressing and not like, you know, moving on hinges. Mm hmm. I mean, I saw it as a little bit of both. But yeah, I imagine that he might need a chiropractor or so afterwards. Mm hmm. Yeah.
00:22:52
Speaker
I was getting some nope vibes in that moment. I was like, oh gosh. Gene jacket. Yeah, a little Gene jacket action. If you know, you know. But you saying Nezuko being there reminded me that may have been the best Nezuko moment we have gotten full stop of the way she looked so excited when Mitsuri just jumped onto the dragon.
00:23:17
Speaker
Oh my God, like absolute relief. But the way she idolizes her, it was so cute and perfect. Just like, oh my God, she's here. We're good. We're saved. Like so many things conveyed despite her not being able to use words. I was absolutely blown away. Nezuko has just had a lot of great moments this season, it feels like.
00:23:36
Speaker
Nezuko might be the only one able to communicate with Tanjiro now because he can't hear and she can't use words. Oh my gosh. See how long that holds up. That's for him though. For him to take that hit so many times and then just point and blank from that dragon head. It is cool how each of the heads is one of the powers and he's just going off that drama. It's really cool how they're showing that. It's just terrifying for our heroes.
00:24:03
Speaker
Yeah it was a great moment to pepper in some comic relief though when Mitsuri was like just grabbing him by the shoulders like it's okay you can take a break now you can rest and they do that thing where their eyes are just dots and he's like I can't hear anything you're saying my eardrums were busted oh okay I don't even think he said it I think he was thinking it which is even better that Mitsuri still like hasn't registered I mean he also got the not comic really showed up
00:24:27
Speaker
Yeah, you did have the not comic relief, but I got a kick out of it moment of Genya here trying to shotgun the dragon and just doing nothing. Mm hmm. A little chunk of the head. Yeah, just desperation calls for. Mitsuri's entrance with the moon was really beautiful.
00:24:48
Speaker
Yes. I'm really curious to see like, is love breathing a thing? Like, are we going to get a visual representation of it? Because her sword powers have been awesome. Her movement has been awesome. But what does her breathing look like? Yeah, you guys are expecting like hearts to come up based off that debate earlier. Like, it's just like, she's just gonna write a card. She just gets the demon to repent and be like, you know what?
00:25:16
Speaker
I was wrong. We shouldn't be fighting. We should be loving. You don't have to kill me. I'm the one demon that doesn't have to be killed. That's the secret. It was love all along. That's right.
00:25:33
Speaker
feel like we're going to get her backstory next episode? Oh, I got two more episodes. But that's what I'm scared of is we only have two more episodes. I'm like, oh, no, the season's coming to a rapid conclusion here. Well, yeah, they'll do what they'll do in this one where it's like first half is all backstory. And then the half of the back half will finish up the backstory, go into some action, give us a cliffhanger and then wrap it up in the last episode.
00:26:00
Speaker
Yeah, more than likely. And the nice thing about this show is like you can watch like the little teaser at the end and it generally does not spoil the next episode. It was great just to get, you know, Zenitsu and Osuke back for just a second. They're like, when's it our turn? Like, I absolutely love that. That was a great acknowledgement and hanging a lancer on the fact that they've been absent. But the title of the next one is, I think it's just Love Hashira, Mitsori, Kanjori, which mirrors this episode. Yes.
00:26:30
Speaker
So I do think we're going to go to backstory.
Meaning of Muichiro's Name and Strength
00:26:34
Speaker
I do think she's going to have a sibling as well. And that does kind of make me want to go back to Muichiro a little bit. Like, I think one thing the synopsis kind of glossed over was
00:26:46
Speaker
what the Mu and Muichiro stands for. And throughout the backstory, his brother kept using it as an opportunity to insult him. Mu is meaningless, Mu is worthless. And then at the end, he's like, I've been lying this whole time, the Mu stands for infinity. So just kind of going back to sibling rivalries, and he really loved his brother, but in some ways he was actually
00:27:10
Speaker
envious of his brother and his brother's selfless and caring nature. And that ended up being his power. He displayed infinite power in that moment once he remembered who he was. Mu and Deku, so similar with their names.
00:27:30
Speaker
Honestly, I can only imagine what it actually must be to grow up as a Japanese kid where your name can be interpreted different ways based on the base meanings that are assigned to you. That leaves a lot of room for open interpretation. That's unfortunate.
00:27:47
Speaker
Language can be a bitch. I kind of wondered what kind of influence someone's name can have on them because I haven't been exposed to a lot of it. But I read an article or a book somewhere where it was discouraging people from naming their kid Noah because basically the first words they're hearing in their life a lot is like, no, no, Noah. And they might internalize that. And I also wondered, is it the same thing for Mallory? Because in so many languages, Mal is like,
00:28:15
Speaker
I wonder if it, you know, does something subconsciously. I mean, that's why people are just making up names now. Yeah. Too much affiliation. Are all names just made up? At the end of the day they are. Getting existential now. Yeah, I love the two brothers.
00:28:43
Speaker
It was a bit of a subversion of a subversion for a moment. I thought we were going to find out that Muichiro was not Muichiro and it was actually Muichiro, like Muichiro had died and that was his amnesia was like, well, he doesn't remember his life because it was his brother's life. And I'm glad I'm glad they didn't go that route because it had a bigger emotional payoff.
00:29:05
Speaker
But they still never really explained, I mean, I guess just trauma suppression, but like the amnesia didn't come from somewhere. It wasn't like he got hit on the head. It wasn't any thing. It was just, I'm going to suppress this bad thing that happened to me and continue living the rest of my life.
00:29:22
Speaker
Yeah, I think it was the combination of the rage that he had to tap into to defeat the demon, which was something he hadn't really displayed before, in combination with watching his brother dying and going into the detail of watching his brother become maggot written to the point where the maggots started to go to him. And they even implied that they basically had to pry his hand off of his brother's cadaver. Pretty intense. Yeah, that was a lot to watch.
00:29:52
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skin crawling moments for sure. Animations a little too beautiful.
00:29:59
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I'm glad they like kind of shaded it where it was like coming out of his brother's mouth. Sounds like it was enough to make you cringe, but not enough to like fully make you vomit. Yeah. Speaking of things coming out of his mouth, it does remind me of like when he was filming at the mouth and Kanamori was like, are you sure you're okay? And he's like, I'm good. You look really pale and you're trembling. That was some much needed comic relief there as well.
00:30:25
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That and Kotetsu's ghost. Oh yeah. We got movie shows like the little dot I looked at the game Nezuko a lot. Like right before the fight started. I wasn't ready to pop up as early as it did. So between that and just how they wrapped it up and
00:30:45
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I'm pretty sure much or recognize how he was running out of time, just based off his exhaustion and just the ramifications of pushing his body to go through all of that. It's just kind of like, okay, I'm going to go fight. Never mind on that. We've seen Tantra do that enough for sure. They do a really good job at like reminding us of what human limits are for as amazing and spectacular as everything looks. They remind us that they are just humans. Apparently don't just throw fire around. Yep.
00:31:18
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I guess one thing to kind of like bring up as well as we had discussed Hagen Azuka working on this sword and how we had them mentioned earlier at the season that he's going to need like three days to work on the sword.
Speculation on Conflict Timeline in Narrative
00:31:29
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So is this conflict going to span more than three days or more than a couple of days or what? And at this point, given that we only have two episodes left, I'm starting to lean towards
00:31:43
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I don't know, unless they do some funky stuff with the time in these last couple episodes, it seems like it's probably going to clock in at like a day and a half at the longest. I mean, at this point, the sun hasn't come up, so I wouldn't even say anything more than a day. Yeah, that's why I said it like within an hour.
00:32:02
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Yeah, I would love an actual timeline of how long it's supposed to be taking place. But yeah, at this point, it seems like Mui or Muijira. Mitsuri is probably going to be the one to save the day because Tanjiro probably won't even know that a new sword is ready for him. So it's it was really just there as the plot point of Haganazuka needs to get beat up while just continuing on that sword. Did not stop for a moment. He was he was the trooper of the week. So he's going to be still going at it for another two nights. Hmm.
00:32:31
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goes three days, three nights. So he's just going to be out there in the woods, like blood coming out of him, going nonstop. That does make me think, going back to Giyoko for a second, like he actually had a moment of pride when he first got slashed by Muichiro as upset as he was. He was also kind of proud. He was like, Oh, I was, I was as focused as this guy was for a second. I, you know, I can hone in on my craft. This guy's no better than me.
00:32:57
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That's my thing with Gyoko is I think he was known for his stealth more than his power. I think he was just resourceful and sneaky. Sure. And I mean, wasn't there the joke that he was just loved the most by Muzan because he could sell his pots? He could sell them for a high price. So he's just like, keep you around. Yeah, his mission was literally just to find the village. I could see this spat ending with
00:33:29
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with hatred going back into fear and him just running away back to Muzan and reporting what happened. I don't think he's just going to end with Hagan Azuka dying. Hantengu. Hantengu. Hantengu, excuse me. Hagan Azuka better not die. He's got that sword to finish. And then he's going to get eye patch notes from Uzubi. Great. Yeah. That's the spin off we need.
00:33:59
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I got Azuka and Uzui just chilling in retirement together. Yeah. I mean, he would just be judging Uzui swords. Yeah. Probably. All right. Do we have anything else to say on this one? Are these couple of ones I should say? No.
00:34:21
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All righty, well, I encourage all the listeners as the season's winding down here, if you want to be like Jonathan Kim and join in on the conversation and let us know what you're thinking about the end of the season as well as the season thus far, and even the show thus far, please chime in and send us an email, send us a recorded voice note at animationdeliberationpodcastatgmail.com. There's also a slew of other places you can find us.
00:34:51
Speaker
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00:35:13
Speaker
Yeah, we got Awesome Con coming up in a couple of weeks. If you're in DC or the DMV area, feel free to swing by. I will be there on our panel with 3233 Murphy on the 16th starting at 6.30, I believe.
00:35:30
Speaker
So it's gonna be exciting. I'm definitely nervous about it. Never even been to a big city con before so for my first time to actually be on stage will be Exciting but nerve-wracking at the same time speaking of three two three. I will be joining them this week I had a little hiatus just because too much going on but joining them this week We'll be on multiverse news this week and we got some more animation deliberation coming up this week Yes, we do You know
00:36:00
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One of the biggest things to happen in animation in a long time just happened across the Spider-Verse is out in theaters. So we're doing a lot of coverage. I had the opportunity to do an instant reaction with John Irons. We're getting ready to do more of a full breakdown with Matt Carroll from the Marvel Cinematic Universe podcast. So certainly stay tuned for that. That's John Irons from Captain Game Show. So be sure to check him out. Yes, yes, yes, indeed.
00:36:29
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Andrew, anything you want to let the people know about? Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of stuff going on right now. Well, I don't have a I'm hesitating because I don't actually have a time or date nailed down. But hopefully I'm going to be making an appearance on the source pages podcast this upcoming week, or none other than the distinguished competition that is DC these days.
00:36:50
Speaker
covering some of the Flashpoint comics. So if you have a DC Universe subscription and want to read up on Flashpoint with us, go right ahead and do that. Or just pop over there, we'll talk about the comics and how we're probably excited for this movie and what it's going to mean for the greater DCU as a whole. It's gonna be a great time. That's the Source Pages podcast, a part of the Stranded Panda Network.
00:37:13
Speaker
Yeah, and speaking of The Flash, I also recently appeared on Binger's Assemble in our continuing DCEU coverage and had the pleasure of being joined by the guys from DC on screen to cover Batman 1989 and Batman Returns all in preparation for The Flash. So please go check that out. I think that's everything this week. Thank you all for being here and thank you for listening and keep tuning in. That's T-double-O-N-I-N. And as always, stay well.
00:37:41
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There's been a severe lack of them this season, but until we see them again, muscle, muscle.
00:37:51
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