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Pressing Into Fearlessness w/ Anna Mullikin
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In this episode we chat with Anna Mullikin: missionary kid, pioneer- builder, deliverance coach, leader, evangelist, mother, dreamer and faithful follower of Jesus. In part one she share about the ups and downs of the last 12 years, her heart for evangelism and her deep journey in deliverance. Hear about Anna’s victory over a panic and fear and her passion for 100% freedom for every Jesus follower. There will be something for everyone in this episode as we engage in real talk about walking in identity and not settling for less than all Jesus paid for.
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Introduction and Podcast Subscription
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Theme: Spiritual Truths and Divine Wisdom
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We were designed to hunger for the deep things of God, to thrive on faith and wonder, to seek out divine wisdom that defies human logic. We were designed to unlock the mysteries of God.
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This is Breathing Underwater.
Guest Introduction: Anna Mulliken
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Hey y'all, welcome back to Breathing Underwater. or You are in for a treat today. We have an interview with my friend, Anna Mulliken. I've had a lot of Annas on the show. Yet another Anna.
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I love a good pattern, but this is actually going to be broken up into two episodes. Today is the first part where she is just sharing a lot about her experience with deliverance and in missions, and it's really just rich, rich stuff.
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It is titled Pressing into Fearlessness because this is something that God is doing in her and that she shares a lot
Technical Apologies
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about today. And then next week, we're going to delve into her dreams and her dream life. So you're not going to want to miss it.
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We're going to end a little bit abruptly today just because it's inevitable. It's inevitable sometimes. And i have to give you a little disclaimer that the audio on this one is not my favorite. I tried a new setup and it is, well, sigh. It's just not what I wanted it to be. So you're going to hear a little ah bump here and there. And honestly, you probably wouldn't have even noticed. And now I'm just pointing it out to you. But this is what I have to do because quality matters to me.
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And just so you know, I'm aware. But who really cares? Let's actually jump into the content meeting my friend Anna. Here we go.
Shared Experiences and Prophetic Connection
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Well, Miss Anna Mulligan, not Mulligan, Mulligan is with me today on the podcast. Hi, Anna. Hi, guys.
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Thanks for having me. You, oh my gosh, I've been wanting to do this for, what has been, two months? We've been trying. We have been trying. And Anna and I don't even know each other that well. We've lived in the same place for eight years and we just met like six months ago or something in a bar class.
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Is that where we met? Yeah, yeah. And like the exercise bar. Not in a bar. Oh, right, right. I should probably specify ah the bar class, B-A-R-R-E.
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But we, I ended up having... actually it was a prophetic word I had that ended up being about your son. It was a word of knowledge. I was at a gathering and had a word knowledge that ended up being about her son and a word of knowledge. For those of you who don't know what that is, is God just gave me information about her son, but I didn't know it was for him.
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Um, and then that I think connected us even more deeply. And then we started to talk about how he's a big dreamer and you're a dreamer and the rest is history.
Challenging Traditional Church Practices
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Yes. Such a powerful word.
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Actually after that word, the way that you approached, um, a thing that the word was about it something that had come against him in his life and the way that you you talked about it from up front and went after it I've never heard someone posture that way and I was like this girl is fierce and we're going to be friends fierce yes I don't even I'm like trying to think how did I even posture myself So I think so much, I think that we're all so guilty in the church of accepting different different things, whether that's like physical realities or emotional or, you know, mental realities, accepting it as normal and working on trying to manage it instead of actually going like, this is actually not in line with the freedom of God and the wholeness of God. And we're going to actually take it down. Complete freedom is the goal.
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Missionary Insights and Cultural Respect
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percent 100%. Yeah. Well said. Well said. Thanks. You sound like you've been in church a while. Church life. I have been. I was born into it. my um i actually grew up on the mission field in Indonesia, um Central Java. what the language What's the language there?
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I mean, in English, you call it Indonesian, and then they call it Bahasa Indonesia. Do you speak that language? do. It's been a minute, but I do. That is so cool. sure it's still in there somewhere.
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Do you go back ever? um I have not been back since I took my now husband there. We were not engaged yet, but it's been, just had the big 4-0, so it's been a while. Woot woot. Yeah. Oh my gosh. Okay, so you grew up in Indonesia in ministry?
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Yeah, 8 to 18. And then you had mentioned that you yourself got involved in ministry, or you and your husband did? Yeah, so we um were a part of a mission organization that uh, focused on two things, leadership development, but also in creating church planting movements in a way that, um, was basically trying to start a wildfire.
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Um, it's a whole different approach. A lot of times I think we approach in the kingdom, uh, wanting to bring people into the club of of Christians and the culture of Christians. And there begins to be such a barrier for so many people to cross it.
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And then secondarily, it's actually not strategic. And I do believe we're supposed to be strategic in the in the kingdom because... when we extract someone from their natural culture, whether that be like in a foreign country, you know, and a really obvious different culture or whether that be here in America.
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And, you know, there's all kinds of people groups here in America, right? Like the musicians, that you know, there's all kinds of different cultures, different tribes. I love that word. Yeah.
Jesus' Ministry: Unity and Diversity
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um But when you think about it, when we bring someone into the kingdom, we tend to want to extract them out of their tribe and make them part of ours. Wow. But if we were actually to ask them to not,
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come over to our tribe on purpose and instead stay planted in theirs, they have then have the ability to, to bring their whole, um, their whole tribe to Jesus, um, and, and begin to replicate. And so that's how the wildfire starts.
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So that's what we were doing in long. We were, um, in Long Beach specifically. So many people there that just could never probably set foot in a church easily and and interpret that as they could never actually enter into Jesus.
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Wow. Yeah. Which is the antithesis of what he did. One thousand percent. It's just stunning when you read or, you know, I've been recently more recently watching The Chosen, actually. It's just such a beautiful depiction of Jesus. Like it's so it is actually the opposite of what God did. He really did actually leave people in their tribes. You even see him, you know, when he does miracles outside of the Jewish people.
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You often see him saying, you can't come join, you know not asking them to join him or even saying, don't come join me. and They want him and don't even don't necessarily launch into announcing it in a really broadcasting way. Stay planted and shift your whole community.
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You just reminded me of a scripture when you were talking about that.
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I think it's Ephesians. oh Help me, Jesus. Ephesians 2, where it talks about how he broke down in his flesh the dividing wall of hostility.
Heart Focus and Spiritual Insights
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And it's talking about like the yeah the Jew and Gentile division. Because in that moment, it was like, you have to look like us. You have to be circumcised. you have to This isn't for you. It's only if you look like this or come from this background.
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And him actually taking down that dividing wall and in himself creating one man, it says, It just reminds me of what you're saying of how often we try to, how but church can become a dividing wall even of like, you have to look like this to enter in. Yes.
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And then there's still that division between tribes. Yes. Yeah, absolutely. And I mean, just going back to Jesus's heart, you just see him. He just bleeds for people to come to know him. um And he actually walked and and tore down walls yeah he did you know he just went straight to the need right he went straight to the need um met them in their need um almost always brought them breakthrough yep and then he um solidified them in their identity wow right and and then he he wanted churches to
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I think to multiply like fire, right? You see that in the acts. That's how they did it, right? Literally by fire. Yeah. Yeah. Amen. Holy fire. Tongues of fire. Yeah. That's beautiful. It's actually, we're going to talk about dreams, but this reminds me of a lot of what I teach around dreams where...
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if we're when we're reading scripture and seeing the life of Jesus, so often the people are like, but God, why didn't you call them out on their sin? Or yeah God, don't you see that the Pharisees being like, why are you dining with these sinners? And it's all about the group that people are in, the thing they're doing wrong. yeah But he's always, like you just said, he went straight to the need.
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And it just reminds me of how when Samuel in, I think it's in 1 Samuel, when Samuel is going to anoint David, God sends him there and he first thinks it's going to be the the oldest son who's tall and handsome and he's thinking surely. And the Lord says, hey, that's not him.
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Don't see with the eyes of man because God sees the heart. yeah And it just reminds me of what you just said where he goes right to the need. We're so quick
Spiritual Growth and Healing
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to be like... But look at these things on the outside. They need to change their actions. They need to look different. They need to clean themselves up. but He actually just goes right to the heart and what the heart need is.
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yeah And it's reminding me of dreams because I actually find oftentimes when I'm helping people learn to interpret or interpreting my own and I find myself in a religious mindset sometimes. where I'm making it about the thing or what I need to change, or it's more facial.
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I remember, oh wait, God sees the heart and he so often speaks to us about the heart, but we try to make it more about the flesh or we try to make it more literal where he's really just getting to the heart of the matter.
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Absolutely. I mean, we're all in this process of slowly being discipled unto him, right? And it's never going to happen all at once. It's so true. We like to... To go like when it comes to talking about like another religion, like, oh, if they're, you know, at all still have any part of that in them, then there's something so scary.
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But when you think about it, we actually all still have other religion in us that are slowly, it's slowly getting worked out. It's not a prerequisite ah to come to Jesus. Sorry, getting rid of all that stuff is not a prerequisite to coming to Jesus. yeah It's the coming to Jesus that begins to move us towards him.
Crossroads and Spiritual Challenges
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So good. Yeah. I mean, truly. I find like little pieces of religion in me all the time. I'm like, dude, yeah and I feel like I'm a pretty free person. Yeah. There it is again. Ah, just discipling me through it again. Oh, I went into that performance mindset again. Like I didn't realize that was even there.
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i think it's so freeing for people to hear that too, because even when we're walking with the Lord, we have sometimes have this unspoken expectation that we still need to clean ourselves up.
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Yeah. Yeah. And really that's his work. It's his work, right? And he'll do it. He'll be faithful. Yeah. Do you feel like you can be vulnerable enough to tell us what is he working out in you right now? What do you feel like?
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Yeah, I absolutely can. So, uh, yeah, I'm coming. I'm at a pretty huge crossroads in my life right now. It's fun timing to be on here. So my background is um I was trained as a coach, like a formal life coach, about, I guess, 20 years ago now.
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Mm-hmm. i don't know if that's the right number. That was probably at the beginning of it starting to get traction too because yeah coaching wasn't as big. It wasn't as big then. yeah It was a new concept, but ah it was not a spiritual approach, but it was just I felt the Holy Spirit in it so much, like pulling out what's in someone. yeah um and Then I was actually informally and formally trained in in
Deliverance from Panic and Anxiety
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inner healing at a younger age than that.
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My mom had a massive transformation happen. And she began to, initially I was actually super turned off because of the control that was still in me. And ah it scared me, the power of it. power of inner healing. Yeah, just the power and the power I felt on it, you know, of the Holy Spirit in general.
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um But eventually my walls began to come down and she actually started discipling me in it. And so then in college or in our my dorm room, we would do inner healing. Like, you know, all the college girls are like unpacking their their metaphorical suitcase, right? Totally.
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And I'm always, I just am wired as a person and I have been since the beginning of like, I don't want to just hear about it or talk about it. I want actually to see someone get the change they want. yeah So I do inner healing then. Anyway, so um that kind of came together more formally for me. I've done kind of gone back and forth in what I do.
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um And ah in the last five years or so, I've been doing inner healing, coaching and deliverance all all combined, um, and seen really amazing things happen, but interesting and had a ton, obviously, if you can see things happen through that, you have to have had a ton happen in your own life. Right.
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Um, but, um, in October or September this last year, um, God began to do a work in my life where there was this one area of my life and it was specifically, um like panic.
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that That set into my life the moment I actually got the ah launched into motherhood, got pregnant. There was, you know, a physical aspect of it, but there is absolutely a spiritual aspect of it. um And that was the first time you got pregnant? How long ago was that? Yeah, that was 12, 13 years ago. Wow. yeah Okay.
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So what began is I had had like a very, the first part of my life, I was kind of thrown into leadership really young. And I was in an organization where I was, you know, having heavy influence and I'd already had healing in my life, heavy influence, and then I got pregnant and it felt like everything began to unravel. And actually the panic was specifically ah around several things, but including speaking.
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So I, and it was so significant that I ended up slowly, what I didn't realize until I looked back later is I ended up slowly ah making my life smaller and smaller and my influence smaller and smaller. Like I knew how I'd already had the track.
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the tracks um in on how to, you know, lead and how to do that with God. But I slowly began to go, I know how to do that. And I know I can walk into a room and people will start to be, you know, put me in positions, but I'm going to begin to minimize myself. So I am not seen because I know if I'm put in those positions, I will have to talk.
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I did nothing stopped internally for me. The amount of, you know, interaction I'd have with God and that didn't stop the, the revelation he'd put, give me on things that the dreams I'd have, like none of that.
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And the, and then my mind is naturally very strategic. So I'm, I'm made to build stuff and start stuff. So all of that was just churning in me and nothing paused on that. But I just felt like I couldn't let any of it out. Like, ah and and But I had to find a way. So I actually did find a way. I started to write.
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i so i found that coaching was some a way where it would not get triggered. um But anyway, so I figured out ah life how slowly I was like, the burning in me is too strong. I cannot just turn it off. But I cannot.
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I tried everything. I tried deliverance, inner healing, counseling, medicine, and it wouldn't and wouldn't really let up. I would have breakthrough, and then I would go back. Anyway, yeah. anyway um I got to a point where I was like, I'm going have to figure out how to create a life where I can still let some of this out, but i can it can be safe enough that I won't be triggered.
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Right? Does that make sense? Totally. um and And this is all in hindsight, and I wasn't admitting this to myself, but this is what I can tell you now. So I don't think anyone would have told you that knew me, for example, in these last eight years, oh, she...
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can't really talk or, I mean, my closest friends knew, but it was very hidden. My husband, yeah, obviously my husband knew and it was just, has been the most beautiful, you know, companion in it. But, um, I found out a way to do life pretty good.
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However, something happened in September where it started to kick up a bit. And I suddenly, um, I had another round of my group inner healing coaching program.
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They listed out at the end, all the breakthroughs they had had. And I hung up and I went to my husband and I said, I feel sad. Why? i don't know what is, this is just the work of God in my life. Why um, all these other people have breakthroughs with me and I've had so many in my life, but this one place that it holds me most captive, I cannot get it to me.
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And he just said, let's pray. And I ended up having an encounter with God and it was, um, I'm trying to figure out how not to make this story shorter. Basically, uh,
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he I went into a Bible story and I was one of the characters. And anyway, he pulled me out of it and coming out of that, I knew. And he was pulling me forward for a breakthrough as if he was walking the dusty streets. And it was me that he was pulling forward for a breakthrough.
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um Blind Bartimaeus. um It was actually the the boy who couldn't get delivered. Oh. Yeah. So I was actually someone and only comes out oh wow so i was holding my my own hand and saying, I've tried everything and I've spent everything because spent so much money and I cannot.
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And then I just knew coming that I had to gather a group of women to start praying. And I still at that point did not know if it was, I figured it was figurative, metaphorical, right? Because I'm like, I've tried deliverance, you know?
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So a group of women started to pray. And when I started my message to them, The Spirit of God broke something open in me, and I think it's called hunger. And i hope I suddenly was like, I am desperate, where I had become very undesperate for a breakthrough, like, I can do this okay.
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i I just wept in my message, and I was like, I am desperate for actual freedom because this is not free. I can't, if I have to say no to so many things yeah because I can't yeah and I don't want to be triggered, then it's not freedom.
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Kind of like how we started where it's like managing it yes versus settling for managing it rather than this is not the freedom that you paid for. I need this gone. Yeah. So you're starting to hear probably my life message come up.
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Beautiful.
Living Without Fear Post-Deliverance
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Yeah. So, um, but what that feeling in me was like, you know when you're out in cold weather and you have all this these layers on and it was perfect and then you get into this house and you're like and like just trying to rip it off real quick because you're like it is so hot that is what I felt like suddenly I was like I have been totally fine managing this and I no longer can manage it thank you God yeah and I was like God is my only hope I cannot figure this one out And I was known as the person people would go to for the things that they just could not figure out.
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Do you know what I mean? I do. um And so they began to pray. Long story short, I actually had a ton of deliverance happen. Amazing.
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And it actually was a ton of, it started with someone, but it was a ton of spontaneous, like a power encounter with God that went over a month time. Yeah. And this was this fall. Yeah. Which is crazy. to i mean, it's so funny. You can be walking in deliverance and yet still need it.
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But I think coming in on the other side, I was like, I don't know if I actually believed complete freedom was possible in God. And I don't think we even are in touch, willing to be in touch with where we need freedom because it's too painful. If you if you don't believe there's actual freedom, you don't want to look at where you're not free.
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Right? So yeah, deliverance from like physical, I mean like um physical things that had lasted for years and years, like too emotional to mental all of it so wow and to when you said crossroads is that what you mean okay coming out of your original question i'm so sorry no no no what is he what was it like what is he um i don't remember what my question what is he doing so vulnerabilit what is he doing in my life yeah yeah so what he's doing now on the other side of that as i'm beginning to ask the question okay what does it look like to actually live fearless and how do you walk that out
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Ooh, doggies. Yeah. I mean, that's a deep one ah Right. It's been lot years. Scary question to ask. Yeah. It's been a lot of years of me having this ah metaphorical corral around me.
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Like, don't go outside of this. And so it, and it, yeah, I'm just beginning to go like, how do I press into fearlessness? I'm having another question come up about this and then we can move on to dreams, even though I am so into this that if we don't get to dreams, we're fine. Okay. um The metaphorical corral, did you know it was there or was it not until you were like, I'm so hot, I got to take these layers off that you were like, oh, there's layers. Yeah. No, I think um looking back, God had given me a vision a year ago that I was in a corral and it was time to come out, but I didn't totally know what it meant. Mm-hmm.
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um And we can, so no, I don't think I knew I was in, I think that we can get into so such a subconscious avoidance. And it's not coming from any bad place. It's coming from the same place most people We walk around with our feeling is like, hey, if there's not a solution for this, i'd I can't look at it. That's too hard of a reality yeah to face. It's actually a survival mechanism. yeah Yeah, that's too hard. So, I mean, if someone had sat me down and really asked me questions, I probably could have told you. But I didn't in my spirit. I had i was not willing to grasp my level of desperateness, right?
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It takes a lot of humility too. It does. Right? So much. Like having to let go so much pride and, you know, all of the things. Yeah. And so much of the Lord preparing the your heart to be ready to do that.
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And, yeah, it takes a certain level of, like, bravery to to look down that that tunnel. And honestly, was just the work of God. It really was.
Understanding Deliverance and Spiritual Hierarchy
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You know, his hand, I just kept, a a little bit into the process, I just kept hearing him say, my hand's on you.
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My hand's upon you. Yeah. Yeah. He's really good at doing that. Yeah. I'm so grateful. He's really pursuing and knowing when we're ready for something and going at the right layer. And think sometimes this kind of just goes back to the works thing.
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We can think we have to have the idea and then be like, oh, this is here, God. Will you do something about it? Or we have to be actively praying about something for him to move when he's always been the initiator. Yeah. From day one. Yeah, he is.
00:22:51
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He's the initiator. Thank God. Thank God. Yeah. That's, that's such good news to my heart because sometimes like you with a history of, of, of inner healing and coaching and all of that, often have the discernment for other people in the moment that you, I start to think in time still like, well, if I don't figure it out and then bring it to God, then the breakthrough won't happen. But it's like, no, he's initiating it. He's the one that reveals it in any way. It's really not up to me.
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If I just yield and listen, yeah he shows and leads and and reveals everything. Absolutely. And I think he's actually, i think there is a work of God being released on earth right now where he's doing this. It's not just me.
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I just think it was it's just a prophetic picture of what he wants to do for a lot of people. Yeah. And I think even the spontaneous nature of it what is is what I do want to highlight that because there's just not enough people who do deliverance around. Yeah.
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And that is like God has said he's he's making everything available to us. So we know he he's he's able to show up even if you can't find the right person or if you have a prayer from someone and then it begins a process like mine. Like he's it's not just me. It's for everyone listening to you, you know.
00:24:03
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Can you, i think a lot of this, um, a lot who follow this podcast will know what the word deliverance means, but will you just give a definition for it for those who maybe haven't come across that word or newer to it?
00:24:16
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Yeah. Yeah. So obviously when we come into the kingdom of God, we come under the spirit of God and are inhabited by him. So we're not talking like demon possession here, but we are talking about there is um if we could see the spiritual world, it's just something we can't see, but it doesn't make it any less true. Like the amount of tormenting that happens um among believers and non-believers, I think is unreal.
00:24:44
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It needs to be stopped. um I think sometimes we can work to heal stuff so hard that actually we just need deliverance from or some combo. Um, and I, this is coming, this is coming from someone who does inner healing. So I'm not just sitting, I'm not a person that's going, um, counseling and inner healing aren't real or helpful, but I am saying, I do think that we under, um, ah diagnose the tor tormenting that's happening from the, the enemy. From the spirit. From a spirit. Because that's the deliverance piece, right? That's the deliverance. Yeah.
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And I think, so how i this is how I look at it, especially after my experience the last fall, um, Anything in your life that is stealing, yeah that is being stolen from or being destroyed or there's set like a ah death happening, that's the definition of Satan. so Because he comes to kill, steal, and destroy, scripture says.
00:25:38
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Yeah. So that, you know, was from um everything from something like panic to something like – um constant vertigo i'd have um or migraines actually had migraines constantly and then truly got delivered of them i didn't have one i've had a few since um off and on so that's something i'm kind of trying to work out with god um but uh yeah yeah so actually that revelation is what was happening during the deliverance
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where I'd suddenly go, oh my gosh, that, I am so tired of being stolen from. I'm not going to be, it do this dance of yeah all these health things and that won't work, if that don't can't work.
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You know, I'm i'm actually going to go, it was, it was, the whole experience was underscored by this thing rising up in me of like, Um, it's life, my life belongs to me and Jesus, and I'm going to take it back.
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I'm done. I'm just done with all of this. I'm taking my life back. Um, and I would say it takes a measure of revelation from God that even certain things that we are so used to dealing with, yeah because we maybe have dealt with them our whole life, or maybe our mom dealt with it and our grandma dealt with it And we're just like, oh this is how it is.
Conclusion and Listener Engagement
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That it takes some another a measure of revelation, even from God to, to reveal to us sometimes, Hey, that's actually not me that might have a spiritual root that can actually go this isn't a part of who you are yeah and that's the whole thing with deliverance right i mean uh they're able to be there tormenting you because we have not yet taken our place and realizing like like this is actually my life and you can't do that because of what he did on the cross i have everything all the authority right we like to think of um I think we accidentally like to think of like if there was this this whiteboard and we're writing up like God, Satan, demons, angels. Like we like to think of it like God and Satan are up there together and then there's angels and demons and then we're underneath them. Right. But when you actually look at the order of scripture, we are above – we are only right below God. We were we were actually birthed in his image. Right.
00:27:43
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And the order of the earth because of that is God, us, and then actually every demon and angel under us. Yep. Including Satan. Yeah. Who is an angel. Yeah. Yeah. And there is our abrupt ending. You are welcome.
00:27:57
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I really hope that you enjoyed the conversation with Anna today. If you have questions about anything we talked about, which I would imagine that you do, or you just want to let us know that you resonated with what she said, please reach out to me. Send me an email.
00:28:09
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And don't forget, next week, we're going to jump in with Anna again, going through some of her dreams. And of course, until then, happy, happy dreaming to