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Eating Aunt Jill’s Stank Ass Pie: A Chick Foley Show Thanksgiving Extravaganza
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It’s one of the wildest Chick Foley Show episodes in a while! There is some intense Thanksgiving dinner discussion along with reviews of Full Gear, preview of War Games, tons of figure talk, and Listener Mail!!! Stay tuned all the way to the end to hear Seth attempt to break his own record for consecutive trivia questions and Sheena gives some of the most poignant closing thoughts in show history!
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Transcript
Thanksgiving Special Introduction
00:00:00
Speaker
Welcome to the Chick Foley Show.
00:00:24
Speaker
What is up, Foley fan? We are back with a Thanksgiving Spectacular. We have a fully loaded show for you guys tonight. Going to be talking full gear, talking Survivor Series. We got some figure talk. And of course we're going to be discussing everybody's favorite meal of the year, Thanksgiving. But first, let me start by introducing the stars of the show. Sheena, how you doing? Doing pretty good. And yes, Thanksgiving is probably my favorite meal of the year. So getting hyped to wake up in two days and start cooking that bad boy.
00:00:53
Speaker
Marco, what's going on up in Massachusetts? Nothing, nothing much. Just gear it up for, uh, for survivor series. I'm going to be in attendance. So trying to psych myself up for the, uh, for the event, but yeah, nothing, nothing else is going on around here besides, I mean, I'm overlooking Thanksgiving and going right to the virus series. So that's my, yeah, I don't blame you. If I was going to survivor series, I'd probably be pretty hyped for that too.
00:01:19
Speaker
And Jordan rounding out the Midwest, man, what's happening out in Nebraska. And, uh, Nebraska is good. We just got through killing all you guys as turkeys for you guys to eat for Thanksgiving. So you're welcome. I've always put in the work at this time of year. So, uh, yeah, you guys are welcome.
00:01:36
Speaker
Thank you. Yeah, I just want to say I'm thankful for, uh, for you guys and thankful for all the listeners, man. It's another, you know, we didn't really, we, we kind of let the four year anniversary of the chick Foley show go without a lot of fanfare. Um, cause it was just, you know, we're all busy and it was kind of just another week for us, man, but I do want to extend our thanks to, to all the listeners, especially all the premium Foley fan members. Uh, you guys definitely motivate us and make this a ton of fun to do so.
00:02:01
Speaker
We'll start the show by saying thank you guys. And then I just want to extend my thanks to Sheena, Marco, and Jordan for coming on and doing this show all this time.
00:02:09
Speaker
Thank you. I've been here since, uh, day one. She was the only. Yeah. So, uh, yeah, I, I especially am grateful for all of you guys. I'm grateful for our cheek Foley show community. Honestly, um, our, our premium cheek Foley show members, like you guys are just the most fun. I love you all. I love interacting with you guys, uh, every week and, um, yeah, stay, stay tuned for more.
00:02:33
Speaker
Yeah, that's that's probably why I came up without the fanfare. She is really the only four year vet. You know, already Marco's got, you know, around three. I'm sitting at about two and then Jordan's about a one year member. So we kind of we got a broad spectrum of experiences here on the show. But thank you for listeners. I know we got some listeners that have been with us since day one and definitely appreciate you guys.
00:02:55
Speaker
Sheena, remind the listeners where they can find you guys on social media. You can find me on Instagram at Chick Foley. Marco run a Twitter machine over at Chick Foley show, all of our links to all of our partners and anything that you want.
AEW Full Gear Analysis
00:03:07
Speaker
Chick Foley is at chick Foley.com, including links to find our brethren at the pod foundation. So follow them at pod foundation as well and get all your wrestling content that you need each and every week.
00:03:20
Speaker
Yeah, between us term vocal tavern, extra cooler and coming down the aisle. Yeah, we're really a one stop shop for wrestling content. Want to remind you guys use code chick Foley to save 10% at ringside collectibles and use code PF 10 to save 10% at chalk line courtesy of the pod foundation. You guys ready to talk some wrestling? Oh yeah. Oh yeah. All right. Let's start off with a Saturday night. We had full gear.
00:03:45
Speaker
I thought it was a W's best show of the year Sheena kind of just give us some general takeaways before we start getting into the individual matches for full gear I just thought it like you said I thought it was a great show top to bottom I didn't feel like there were any Matches that were just like oh my gosh, like this is a stinker There was some that had less energy than others But I think that's just a natural consequence of like some of the matches being super high energy And then the crowd just not being able to keep up with the show because overall I thought I thought each and every match was was good in its own way What about you guys?
00:04:15
Speaker
Yeah, I love this show. I think this was actually AEW's second best show ever right behind All Out Love last year. Everything about this show is great to me. I shouldn't say everything because there was a couple spots that I didn't love.
00:04:32
Speaker
Yeah, man. Me and Seth have talked about it numerous times about AW's booking isn't going in the right direction, but that show got me back on board. I'm still a little hesitant on what they do moving forward, but that was definitely a good start. What about the show took you, what about the show made it like top tier to you? I'm curious, like, you know, what, what really put it in that upper echelon is like a show overall.
00:04:56
Speaker
So to me, I think the two biggest things is they put over their two biggest homegrown talents, right? Jamie Hader, obviously everyone wanted to see her win. And then dude, MJF winning the title in the main event. I think the crowd was worn down at the end of it, but I just feel like that's a really big moment for AEW, whatever you feel about MJF. Maybe he's not the greatest wrestler in the world, but
00:05:22
Speaker
dude's a storyteller and that dude can cut a promo on the mic. So I just, I felt like their booking for the first time in a long time was actually good booking. I mean, I just feel like they get, I mean, for a long time, obviously had the CM Punk thing going on. So, uh, Tony was doing a lot of stuff around that and I just, I kind of feel like he lost his way. And, um, I don't know, man, I just, I feel like Sunday was a really, really good night for, or Saturday was a really good night for AW.
00:05:50
Speaker
Yeah, my first paper view in a year without CM Punk, man, definitely feel the difference. Yeah, I'm kind of curious to see what the buy rates are on it after that, because obviously, the narrative out there was he was the, their biggest draw for those paper views that he was on, which is true since he came aboard, but I'm kind of curious to see what this one looks like. We talked about this a little bit on Rawdown,
00:06:20
Speaker
even though it's not an AEW show, but I kind of put the show as their telltale of what's going to happen in the next few months or the next year for AEW. I thought it was like a great bookend because it's the last show of the year, like the last big show besides winter is coming. But as a pay-per-view, I thought it was like a great bookend to what happened. It was kind of like a race, all that.
00:06:46
Speaker
Oh, that stank. That's a big jumpstart. Yeah, in the post-CM punk stank, I think it was a really great just like... Seeing Stunk. Yeah, just a great reboot for AEW and it definitely gave them some momentum and some wind in their sails to go forward into 2023 with a little bit more life. It was a little power cleanser. Yeah.
00:07:07
Speaker
got the Elite back, got everybody got their fuck CM Punk chants out. Yeah. Let's get into the opening match. I thought that was a modern day classic cage match. You know, Young Bucks and Lucha Bros tore it down. That was earlier this year, right? Or was that last year when that went down? I can't remember, man. That was last year. I was at you guys' house for that one.
00:07:26
Speaker
Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. So that was last year they won it. I, uh, I thought the, this was in that same vein, man. It's, it's tough to do a cage match nowadays, just cause we've seen so many crazy spots and stuff as wrestling fans, but I thought that they, they tore it down, man. They, uh, had, you know, a little bit of hijinks with Christian and outside the cage, but then they got it right back inside there and, and jungle boy was just great. I thought he leveled up big time. Um, and I love this match. You know, what was your thoughts on the opening match?
00:07:55
Speaker
I thought it was awesome. You guys know I love Jurassic Express as a, as a tag team. And I, you know, this really, we knew they were going to break up at some point and seeing them go head to head like this. Um, it was just, it was awesome. The double tombstone from Luchasaurus was really cool. I was like, Oh crap, he's, he's getting back up. I don't know that I've ever seen like, I just said double tombstone. Yeah. And then, um, didn't juggle boy tombstone Luchasaurus too, or not tombstone, but he, uh, um,
00:08:26
Speaker
I was like, what's the word I'm looking for? Yeah. Picked him up with a pile driver, which was just like a crazy visual because, you know, this little tiny man has this giant dinosaur upside down and ramming his head into the
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00:08:38
Speaker
mat. So yeah, they pulled out all the stops. I loved how, um, jungle boy utilized the cage just to like, basically, um, you know, parkour his way onto, uh, Luchasaurus and stuff. And yeah, it was, it was awesome. Jordan, what'd you think of the cage match?
00:08:52
Speaker
I really like the way AW does cage matches. I like the open door spot where they got outside the cage for a little bit. I think that adds a unique touch rather than the match ending on that. I just, I don't love the door exit to win the match. I think it's overplayed and I get stupid at this point. Yeah. Everything you guys just said, I thought they did really good with that match. The spots were well booked. Jungle boy jumping off top of the cage onto the table. Awesome. I just, I felt like they did a really good job with it.
00:09:22
Speaker
no outside interference, which obviously that helps a lot. Yeah, I really enjoyed it. So we still got to have his, he's still gotta go against the final boss with Christian. Marco, you think they milk this out to the next pay-per-view or do we see this get blown off that maybe winter is coming or another hyped up episode of dynamite or something?
00:09:42
Speaker
Um, I could see it, you know, ending at, uh, at winter is coming depending on, you know, Christian's, you know, healing rate. Um, it seemed like he was still in that sling. So who knows? But that obviously, you know, we've seen time and time again, that that could be just like a, you know, a fake and he's not really injured that type of thing. So they might be going that route, but I could definitely see a blow off happening before the end of the year. I don't think they could drag that out too long, but, um,
00:10:10
Speaker
Yeah, that's what I think about that. My highlight of this match was actually it came from Taz. I think it was the best commentary line of the night. Whenever Jungle Boy knocked Luchisaurus down on the ropes and was shaking the top rope on his nads and Taz said, I think the rope is vibrating in the yam bag region of the dinosaur. In the yam bag, the way he says it.
00:10:37
Speaker
Taz is a freaking classic man on commentary. Yeah, great match. Looking forward to seeing what Jungle Boy does in 2023. Up next, we had the return of the elite. Sheen, what did you think of carry on our wayward son as the theme song for the elite? I mean, it was Mage, right? They had like the little graphics come up that, you know,
00:10:59
Speaker
said carry on and then all of a sudden you just hear carry on our wayward son and Seth pop big time dude Seth was like getting back to his rock band Guitar Hero days. Yeah, I was having flashbacks to South Park, you know, that was Stan song, you know on South Park they would rock out on on Guitar Hero.
00:11:16
Speaker
Yeah, and I never really even thought of that just cuz that songs like it's just such a big song I never thought of it as being a wrestling theme, you know, but it definitely worked I worked for the moment. Yeah, it was awesome Yeah, and it it seemed like everything was just the whole show like the energy level went up when those guys came back again We got the the fuck see him punk chant Jordan. What do you think the reaction is gonna be? We got we also learned shortly afterwards there That was actually the first match of a seven match series. We got match two going down tomorrow night
00:11:44
Speaker
It'll actually be tonight as you guys are listening to this show in Chicago. Do you think we're going to get pro CM Punk chance? Are we actually going to have? Are they going to go anti CM Punk in Chicago? All right, I think we've still in silence.
Thanksgiving Traditions and Meals
00:12:06
Speaker
I just feel like the CM Punk has has worn off for a W. I you hear me.
00:12:16
Speaker
Yeah, you're good. I think we had you on a delay there for a second. Yeah, you guys were you were breaking up really bad too. So but yeah, I just I feel like Chicago. I mean, they're always going to cheer for CM Punk, but I just feel like the AW faithful are just over him at this point. So
00:12:33
Speaker
I think it'll be a mix. I don't know. I feel like that last time he was in Chicago, it took a lot for him to win over the crowd. He was really reaching for it. Like dropping all the Chicago references, dropping all of the, you know, I've done this all for you guys. Like I love Chicago and even still the crowd was mild. So I don't know. I feel like the CM Punk era is over.
00:12:55
Speaker
Marco, what do you think of CM Punk, the rumors swirling that he's going back to WWE, man? Do you think that's going to happen before WrestleMania? No. Just as simple as that. I think it's time and wrestling is pretty much done after that. I think with that scrum, you got to see everything that everyone's been saying for years.
00:13:22
Speaker
about him behind the scenes and stuff like that and you started to see a lot more of it. If you listen to a lot of different like podcasts, I believe, you know, like on Road Dogg's podcast, he talks about that because he had to work with CM Punk during that time behind the scenes and he said it's not a surprise, you know, that, you know, you're just seeing that like on TV as opposed to seeing it in the back and stuff like that. So do I think he comes back? No, not even in
00:13:49
Speaker
Not even if the money's right, the, you know, the stars aligned and all that stuff. Yeah, it's definitely not happening. So you think even if CM Punk was offered, he wouldn't come back. I don't think they would offer him anything to come back. I don't even think they'd personally, I don't think I think you would be silly and naive if you were a, uh, you know,
00:14:07
Speaker
if you're Triple H or whoever is doing the hiring decisions over there to bring him in after seeing what happened. But I think CM Punk is a spiteful mofo. And I feel like he would just, he would go to WWE just to be able to like air his shit out about AEW. You know what I mean? Like just to like take jabs at AEW. And it's totally different environment in WWE as well. Like the stuff he was like, Triple H isn't going to be a Mark who's falling all over himself to do whatever it takes to,
00:14:35
Speaker
Keep cm punk happy and I think cm punk knows like the stuff that he was doing in aw would never fly and there to be in the first place so yeah, I think that it does happen just because You know, I can't stand the guy. I fucking hate cm punk straight up You guys can quote me on that put it on my freaking tombstone but
00:14:53
Speaker
The numbers don't lie. And the dude was definitely a draw. Like the quarter hours that he was on TV were consistently the highest rated hours for AW on their television ratings. And then, you know, they were, they had their highest peak reviews, the shows that he was at. So dude makes money and that's what WWE is in the business of. So I see him coming back, even if it's just a total part-time schedule, like a match at SummerSlam, a match at WrestleMania, I see him having one last rendezvous with, with WWE for it's all said and done.
00:15:21
Speaker
Okay, so you say you think he knows that that stuff that he didn't AWW wouldn't fly I mean, I think you're greatly underestimating how much of a dickhead CM Punk really is like I would never say that CM Punk knows that something wouldn't fly I don't think he cares whether something will fly or not. Yeah
00:15:38
Speaker
because I mean it's obvious like look at the last time he was in WWE he didn't care what anybody said to him I mean dude you had the narcissism is unmatched you had Triple H you had taker get all those guys in the back telling him not to do what he was doing and he still did it anyway so you know man I think that guy is just a complete asshole and he'll do whatever he has to do
00:16:01
Speaker
Yeah, I don't know. I feel like even if he did cause a lot of drama backstage, I don't think it would ever spill over and affect the on-screen product the way it did in AEW. I think it would definitely be markedly less than AEW because yeah, AEW allowed their stuff to just be freaking wide open. I don't think Triple H is going to allow all that drama and Triple H would never allow CM Punk to just go completely unchecked.
00:16:24
Speaker
in a post-match interview where he was just like trashing everybody, you know, that would just, that wouldn't happen. I mean, Triple H checked him in the ring the last time he was in WWE, he did it in front of the entire world.
00:16:39
Speaker
I don't know, man. I'm not convinced that CM Punk couldn't schmuck this up again. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, there's no situation he couldn't go full CM Schmuck on. That's for sure. We spent enough time on CM Punk talk. Sorry for kind of taking us off track there, but he does still kind of move the needle in the wrestling world. Jordan, I'm going to put you on the spot right now, man. Who is going to be the winner and what is going to be the final tally on this best of seven series for the trios championship?
00:17:07
Speaker
Um, I, I think, I think the smartest thing to do would have the death triangle retain the titles at the end of this, just to kind of, I don't know, maybe just build them back up a bit. The elite doesn't need to win those titles. Like, dude, Kenny Omega and the young bucks are going to be completely fine. Make them lose 10 straight matches and those guys are still fine. Um, I feel like.
00:17:28
Speaker
the death triangle. You're always going to have the elite to go back to for the trio's titles. I just feel like the death triangle really needs this momentum that they they've got right now and beating the Young Bucks and Kenny Omega. That gives you a lot of momentum.
00:17:43
Speaker
All right, fair enough. I don't think we need to go into a ton of detail on the Jade Cargill, Nyla Rose match for the TVS Championship. But while we're on the subject, I do got a bone to pick with you, Jordan. Earlier, you said that you thought that Jamie Hader and MJF were the two biggest homegrown stars for AEW.
Wrestling Figures and Collecting
00:18:01
Speaker
And you think Jamie Hader's bigger than Jade Cargill as far as homegrown stars go for them? I think Jamie Hader's definitely a better wrestler than Jade Cargill is at this point. So I'll still say Jamie's.
00:18:14
Speaker
True, but when it comes to star power, dude, Jade has it. I think Jade's the biggest star AW has, man. I put that in the group chat on Saturday night, and she's still got some growing to go for sure, but as far as the presence part of it, man, I think she's the closest thing they have to Roman Reigns in AW. I can say that. I mean, I don't disagree with you there.
00:18:38
Speaker
I mean, Jordan, Jordan, I know you're a hardcore work rate guy, man. Is that, is that your issue with Jade cargo or do you got another issue with her? No, I don't, I don't have an issue with her. I just feel like she's extremely limited in the ring right now. Like, I mean, obviously you guys watch the same match as I do. I just, I don't feel like she's there yet. So I'm not going to call her the biggest star in AW right now. Cause I don't think she's there yet. Does she have potential to be sure, but she's definitely not there yet. Yeah. I think it, I think it goes by the end. She's got the,
00:19:07
Speaker
Yeah, go ahead, go ahead, Marco. Yeah, I think it goes by the opponent. I don't think you can blame her. She's had how many matches now? 42, essentially? 42. 42, so yeah. 42 matches. I think it's the level of opponent she has. You put her in the ring with a better opponent. I think you're going to get more of an arsenal out of there. Yeah, exactly. That's a good point. Yeah, she hasn't really had a lot to work with as far as up in her level of skill. And she's got the one thing that you just can't
00:19:33
Speaker
Train like she can train and get better in the ring. She can get faster on her moves and better and more polished But she's got that like says she's got star power. She's got the presentation. She's got the look I think it's just You know, it's just a matter of time dude. I definitely feel you what you said Jordan about she's not there in the ring I I agree. She's not but I've seen enough improvement over the last, you know, almost two years now It's been yeah when we first
00:19:58
Speaker
that I'm a believer because I wasn't a fan when she first came out. I wasn't either matches. I was like, why are we wasting time on this? But over time, she is definitely won me over. And I know everybody talks about MJF and the bidding war of 2024. If I'm Triple H. Oh, yeah. Jade Cargill is number one on my AW wish list. Same. All right. Then we follow that up with the Ring of Honor championship. Is anybody entertained by all of the Ring of Honor content going on in AW? No, no.
00:20:27
Speaker
No, they definitely need to drop it. However, this match was phenomenal. The match was phenomenal. Sure. I like all the time that these Ring of Honor storylines are taken away from AEW, because it's not a ton of TV time, man. AEW has three hours a week of TV time compared to five for WWE. And I just feel like that's why you see guys like Miro before that, like House of Black, just getting crowded out, man, and not getting a chance to get out there and do their thing.
00:20:55
Speaker
I'm hoping at final battle next month, like the big announcement is that Ring of Honor is going to get its own weekly show on TVS or wherever. So that way we can just fully separate these two brands.
00:21:10
Speaker
I agree. I mean, I think, I think that ROH needs to be its own thing. I liked that they, they brought it, they brought it to the mainstream to get, let people know that it's out there, uh, promoted it. But yeah, it's, it's definitely clogging up the, the TV time for sure. And the titles, we've talked about this before, just the insane amount of titles that are on TV. And it really makes the titles that actually mean something not really mean as much because you've already seen like.
00:21:32
Speaker
six titles on your television before you get to see the AEW Championship. Yeah, everybody's seeing AEW's coming out with a belt. Yeah. It's like, we didn't even know what these championships are half the time, man. You got Ring of Honor, you got AEW, you got New Japan belts showing up. Yeah, it's ridiculous. Jordan, what did you think of Saraya, formerly known as... Saraya. I've heard it saying both on there. What are we going with? What's going to be the official Chip Foley show pronunciation? Saraya. Are we going Saraya or Saraya? Is it Saraya or Saraya? I've heard both used on AEW.
00:22:02
Speaker
You say Soraya Jordan. What do you say, Marco? It's called a page. How about that? It might be easier for us. I think that's a mic drop right there. All right, Jordan, you're the women's wrestling expert. What did you think of the sports entertainer formerly known as Paige in her return match after five years away from the ring? For her first match in five years. I mean, I think everybody kind of expected this to be sloppy. I think both of them were nervous. I mean,
00:22:30
Speaker
Paige hadn't wrestled in five years, so she obviously was nervous. Brit was nervous because she's wrestling someone that the last time they were in the ring, I mean, they had a neck injury that
00:22:40
Speaker
was probably going to end up retiring them until this point. I thought they did good. I thought they did good with the time they had. It was definitely not a five star classic, but I don't think anybody was going into that match expecting it to be a five star classic. Like Paige is going to get better as she goes. I mean, she's going to keep getting better because she was good when she was, I mean, in WWE, she was good until she got hurt.
00:23:04
Speaker
So yeah, well the bill for that was kind of clunky too. I thought you know, she's also got some like mic rust I mean not that page has ever been like, you know the rock on the mic or anything. This is my house Yeah, but she definitely had it was just a weird build between brit and um, you know the the artist formerly known as page Uh the entire time so yeah when they met in the ring it was it was cool But yeah, nobody was expecting it to be a five star classic and I I thought it was cool just seeing how emotional
00:23:30
Speaker
It was because we all know even despite the injury and all the things that Paige has been through, like she's had a lot of personal drama and a lot of things going on in her life.
00:23:40
Speaker
Yeah, to say the least. So I think it was just really cool to see her just, you know, kind of be back somewhere where she feels happy and, you know, I thought it was a cool moment. I thought the match was fine. Saraya Saraya Page definitely did not embarrass herself out there in the ring. I had issues, this is something I rarely criticize, but I did have issues with the way the actual match was laid out. This one and the Tony Storm Jamie Hader match,
00:24:06
Speaker
I just, for this one, I just don't know why they made Saraya Saraya look so strong, dude. I think she kicked out of two curb stomps from Britt Baker. Britt Baker, regardless of whether she got the belt or not, she's supposed to be the biggest star, the biggest deal in AW women's wrestling, one of the biggest stars in the whole freaking company.
00:24:25
Speaker
And I don't know, man, it seemed like she just got straight up jobbed out. Like it wasn't like, you know, Paige got a, you know, snuck in a submission hold or got a flukey roll up. Like she straight up took everything that Britt Baker had and still beat her clean, like decisively. Um, and I don't know, man, I'm just not a big fan of, of that decision. I mean, what do you, what do you say, Marco?
00:24:44
Speaker
Yeah, I was actually gonna say that I totally agree. I would rather a Britt Baker victory over her. I know it's the artist formerly known as Paige's first match back in so many years, but at the same time, it's not gonna hurt her at all to take a loss. It would only help Britt Baker to boost her up anymore. I hope it's not a case of the
00:25:09
Speaker
you know, the new toy aspect that you send Tony. Yeah, we get like a new person in there and now they're the other main person. I mean, we see what we see like a prime example of what happened with CM Punk. So I mean, that's definitively real quick. Yeah.
00:25:27
Speaker
It's Saraya. It is Saraya. I'm looking at wrestlinginc.com. It's pronounced, and they got the phonetic spelling. That's what I said the first time. I know. I was wrong. Yeah. Sir R-E-Y dash U-H. Yeah. I'm with you, Marco. I would have either went with a sneaky victory for Saraya or a hard fought loss. And I felt like either way she could have stood tall at the end and got cheers from the crowd.
00:25:54
Speaker
I don't know. Where does Britt Baker go from here after this Jordan? Cause now her sidekick, you know, we can go ahead and just tie this in since I brought it up. You know, her sidekick won the, uh, the interim, which I don't even know why we're still calling it the interim, the women's championship later on that night. So what do you think this means for Brit going forward?
00:26:10
Speaker
I still think she's going to be fine. I don't think I know what you're saying. I don't think this lost her though. It took two rampages for a page to win. Um, I still think Brett Baker is going to be completely fine. Like you said, dude, she was a, I mean, she carried the women's division, whatever you want to say about her matches for basically a year.
00:26:31
Speaker
I still think she's going to be a really important part moving forward. And we have to have a Jamie Hader, Britt Baker blow off whether or not it's for the title, but we're going to get it eventually. And I think that'll be a really entertaining storyline.
00:26:47
Speaker
Yeah, I think I think Paige winning was the right choice just because they've made so much fanfare about her coming into AEW and rightfully so. I mean, Paige's first night on WWE's main roster, she won the title like
00:27:02
Speaker
The girl is talented. I mean, they saw enough out of her. And she was the current, or she was the current, uh, uh, NXT champ at that time too, right? She was a double champ. So I just, I feel like it was the right move because she does need to be a big deal in AEW because dude, they need something to boost that division. I mean, every time we think that division, we've been saying that for three years now, I know, but every time it looks like that division's going in the right direction, it goes right back to what it was the previous two months. Like, yeah.
00:27:33
Speaker
I don't know. Tony Khan don't give a shit about the ladies. I think a big problem right now is the biggest star they got in that division is just toiling away for the TBS championship. How is Jade Cargill not the undisputed freaking number one contender? I don't know why she can't get a shot at the women's title. They're keeping her so far away. Regardless what you think about her actual entering ability, she has 42 and 0. In kayfabe, there's nobody even close to her
00:27:58
Speaker
Yeah, she should be the double champ. She should be the TBS and the freakin Yeah, we've always said yeah that that's how her TBS title range it in you know It should be just her forfeiting it after she wins the main belt I don't I I got enough faith in Tony that I think he's just waiting to pull the trigger on that because he knows it'll be a big deal But yeah sooner than later. We need to see Jade going for the big belt like she's gonna get tired of just yeah Yeah, she's gonna get tired of just like chomping on these little shrimp dude like
00:28:23
Speaker
I mean, look how long it took WWE or WCW to pull the trigger on Goldberg winning the main belt on his winning streak. Like there's something to be said about having that high moment on a really big stage.
00:28:38
Speaker
I feel like all out next year makes the most sense for her winning both titles because there's no way she's dropping the TBS belt anytime soon. I mean, the people are, there's nobody even, there's no, I mean, who would even be a contender at this point for, there's nobody, there's nobody close to her. Well, yeah, maybe. I don't know. I don't know. Yeah. Hey, that's it.
00:29:03
Speaker
That's when you know Tony Khan's going to be impressed with the shiny new toy when Saraya just tramples the whole women's division and just beats everybody. That's what's probably going to happen. That's what happened with CM Punk. I mean, he did the same thing. I don't think he's going to do that. I don't know. I don't feel like Paige to me doesn't have the CM Punk narcissism factor either. I don't see her just going in trying to run.
00:29:26
Speaker
run over Tony Khan. Tony Khan's a mark for pages. He was for super. And also like you can legitimately tell like pages overjoyed to be back in wrestling again. Like, yeah, this isn't a thing of seeing punks like, Oh, they've been chanting for me for seven years. I'm going to come back and I'm going to do it for them. Not for me. Like, dude, that was none of that was ever true. That dude does everything for himself. Paige is not doing this. She actually like is overjoyed to be back.
00:29:54
Speaker
Yeah, and Sam Punk walked away on his own page, had her career taken from her. She's much more in the vein of like Ed or Daniel Bryant, you know, that like, yeah, at one point, like it was, it was taken out of their hands. Like they aren't going to rest. I don't know what sort of technologies come around in the, uh, the neck surgery, excuse me, realm in the last couple of years. But yeah, all these people that have bad necks have all of a sudden been, uh, been re-cleared, dude. So yeah, it's, yeah, we need to look up what treatment they're doing for spinal stenosis. Cause that's what, uh,
00:30:21
Speaker
That's the same thing Seamus had for a while. They thought Seamus, he wasn't out as long, but I remember for a while there, they thought Seamus career was going to be over for that. And he got it back on track. So shout out to whatever, you know, doctor out there figured that shit out because who would have thought that we'd still have edge wrestling in 2022 and going strong too.
00:30:39
Speaker
All right, let's, uh, we've already spent 30 minutes on full gear. Let's fast forward to the main event. I think the next few matches kind of played out how we expect it. We already talked about the, the Jamie Hader, Tony storm match a little bit. Uh, let's go to the main event and we might as well. Well, first off for you to the finish, I can't be the only one that thought mox's gear was absolutely awful. You know, I knew the build we were, yeah, we were all pretty much thinking it was a foregone conclusion that
00:31:04
Speaker
That MJF was winning that belt. It was just a matter of how. But the moment I saw those maroon sweatpants, I knew there wasn't a chance in hell this dude was going to retain the belt, man. It was like he wanted to go and start his vacation early. Yeah, exactly. He was getting on the plane after this event. He was like, let me go and put on my fucking comfy, cozy sweats. So that way, tomorrow morning, I just wake up and watch TV with my daughter, dude. Did anybody like the red pants that Mox was rocking on a Saturday night?
00:31:34
Speaker
Big no. He was, he was the Mick Foley junior of the night in his sweat pants. It was like, it was Mick Foley style gear. And they were like, they weren't even like good fitting pants. Like even aside from the color, it was just, I mean, a nice, a nice fitted pair of joggers. I could get down with somebody wearing those. I mean, Roman Reigns has rocked the cargo joggers for a decade now. It feels like, uh, but yeah, I, it was awful, dude. It was just, and again, the color, like.
00:32:01
Speaker
I don't know what possessed him to wear burgundy tights. That's like what you see people at Dollar General wearing, and this dude's going out for a main event on one of four fucking AEW pay-per-views for the year. Yeah. And Mox is my favorite AEW wrestler, man, so it pains me to say this, but I was just like, bro, what are you wearing? Yes. After Mox ran out in that year, Seth said, I know this is sacrilege for me to say, but I'm rooting against Mox after seeing those pants. I can't even root for him in those pants, and he's my favorite wrestler besides Roman and Seth. That's horrible, man.
00:32:30
Speaker
He had him come out, and then on the other side we had motorboat Jacob Friedman. What a freaking entrance, man. Oh, fuck yeah. That was great. Do you think that was a plant, or do you think he just looked at it? I don't think it was, because he asked for consent. If it was a plant, you would have done it, but you can see.
00:32:47
Speaker
Yeah, if you watch the replay, he spots her, walks over, and he asks permission to motorboat her. He's a motorboat son of a bitch, dude. It was so good, man. He saw them calcium cannons at the top of the stage and was like, I didn't even put my face in those before this match. Calcium cannons. They were perfect motorboat boobies, dude. They were big and jiggly and, yeah. Well, she didn't really scope them out. Why not? Hey, what do you say? Who wasn't? Yeah. It seems like you were the only one who didn't.
00:33:16
Speaker
No, I did. I just wasn't expecting the deep analysis on the actual, uh, you know, the field. That's what we do here. We do analysis on everything. Deep analysis. The, uh, the match played out kind of how we expected it to. I think we were all just kind of pretty much torn with whether it was going to be William regal turning or some sort of swerve where the, uh, the firm gets back involved. Luckily it was regal because that's a lot more interesting. Uh, Sheena, what'd you think of how the, the finish played out?
00:33:46
Speaker
you
00:33:47
Speaker
I thought it was cool. I thought it was cool how the whole time MJF was fighting as the babyface, like he said he was going to and just kind of, you know, not wanting to use any MJF-ish tactics. And even after, you know, looking at the dynamite diamond ring and, you know, thinking better of it after Regal said, you know, don't do it. And I think that just really kind of set us all up to be like, oh, okay. And then he slid in the nooks and it was like, oh shit, you know, so I'm here for it. I think it was MJF's time, but they didn't pull the trigger on it now.
00:34:16
Speaker
it would have been too late so i'm glad they did it even though admit mox losing yeah i'm not the biggest mjf fan in the world i've told you guys before i think he's i think he's the ms with a tv m rating but yeah i agree you know he's definitely peaking right now and that's when you won't put the belt on guys you never want to have a situation like
00:34:35
Speaker
like WWE had with Braun Strowman, where he was really, really hot. And for whatever reason, you still had him lose. And then you end up giving him the belt like two years later. And it just seems totally stale. So it was cool. I'm excited to see where it goes from now. MJF is definitely, like I said, he moves the needle. He's definitely a draw. Jordan, what do you think is going to be his first like challenger?
00:34:57
Speaker
I know I know we got the tournament the tournament coming up with with Ricky Starks and or Ethan Page gonna win but I feel like that's kind of just like a You know kind of just like a placeholder who do you think his first real feud is gonna be with over the belt?
00:35:11
Speaker
Dude, I feel, I know what you just said, but I just, I really feel like if he actually had a feud with Ricky Starks, I feel like it would be great. I mean, Oh, that'd be fire, bro. That would be fire. Yeah, I agree. I love Ricky Starks to me. I feel like I see this being like Ricky Starks gives him hell and then maybe goes and does something else for another, you know, six to eight months and then, and then goes back to win the belt, dude. But I'm with you right there and I'm a believer in Ricky Starks, man. I'm definitely buying up a Stark stock right now. He's awesome.
00:35:38
Speaker
I just feel like, like we all said, the full gear was kind of a reset. So, I mean, now you got to build up your next person in line. And I honestly don't know who that is at this point. It's just, dude, AW is in such a weird spot with hangman hurt. CM Punk gone. Mox is probably going to take a vacation now. Like they're in a weird spot. So they actually are going to have to elevate someone. So I'm just interested to see who it is. I just, I, I honestly can't come up with who it's going to be off top of my head.
00:36:08
Speaker
I'm cool with it though, man. I'd be totally fine with them doing something weird over the next few months. Somebody we're not expecting gets pushed up and gets a pay-per-view main event under their belt. Marco, you got anybody in mind? Do you want to see one up against MJF first for the title? Yeah.
00:36:23
Speaker
Definitely Ricky Starks, I think. I think he's going to be the next, because there's really not any, if you think about like, as far as faces go, like who could they, you know, put, because he's obviously a heel. He's not turning face anytime soon. MJF. If you see that, if you see the medium's media scrim, he crashed. He called everyone pretty much about the words, but yeah, he went crazy.
00:36:45
Speaker
But, uh, yeah, I think it's, I think it's going to be Ricky Starks. I don't see, um, Ethan getting that, that shot. It definitely has to be like a, a white meat baby face. What about Darby?
00:36:58
Speaker
Derby would be cool. It could be a history derby would be awesome. But since he's he's out of that tournament, though, right? He's out of that, like, oh, no, no, no, it's Ricky and Ethan. Yeah, it's definitely going to be Ricky Starks or Ethan Page for the first shot. But I don't know if that's just going to be something they hype up for winter is coming. I don't know if either one of them is going to be like long term feuds. Yeah, so that's my pick.
00:37:20
Speaker
I would like to see what Darby could cook up as far as like promos and stuff against, um, against MJF. You know, he does his little video vignettes and stuff. I think that could be really cool.
00:37:29
Speaker
Yeah, that'd be a fun for you to see how stinks gets involved and stuff because they're kind of. I'm kind of getting I've still entertained for sure, but it feels like, you know, I don't know if any of their like tag team matches, they've been working on the pay per views. I could really pick any of them apart, you know, a couple weeks after the fact. They all kind of run together. You could you could heat Daniel Bryan up to for like an actual like really good match. I mean, that'd be a good challenger for MJF to have four or five star match.
00:37:57
Speaker
Yeah, and that'd be perfect storyline wise also with the tiny into the whole Blackpool combat club. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm here for anything Daniel Bryan does. So yeah, I'll be down for that. All right. That's it for full gear. Let's get into our weekly beverage break.
00:38:23
Speaker
All right. The perfect companion for any wrestling show is an icy cold beverage. And the same goes for a wrestling podcast. It's the weekly beverage break where we each talk about what we're sipping on as we record the pod. So Sheena, you can get it started.
00:38:36
Speaker
I got myself a little holiday inspired brew. We're coming up on Thanksgiving, which is a very decadent holiday. I got me a little decadent drink here. It's a fully loaded Coca-Cola with dough ball whiskey. Wow. I didn't know you were drinking. I thought that was just a virgin coke and rum, man. No. A virgin coke and rum. Yeah. It's a coke. Oh, okay. Got it. That went right over my head. Scotch and water holds scotch.
00:39:02
Speaker
Yeah, so I got me some dough ball courtesy of Jordan Wells, so thank you for that. I cracked open a brand new bottle tonight. Shit, this show's about to be lit. I didn't realize she was drinking hard liquor, dude. This thing's gonna be crazy by the end of it. Yeah, so, yep, cheers, friends. I'm drinking the unofficial official beer at the Chick-fil-A show, a Miller Lite. I got a few other things in the cooler, but Miller Lite's what popped up in the rotation right now. Jordan, what are you drinking?
00:39:27
Speaker
I am drinking a beer called Let It Fly Lager. So for those of you that don't know, Creighton Blue Jays is a college basketball team out of Omaha and they're in the top 10 this season, which is unheard of for Creighton. It's, it's not a big school or anything. So it's, it's really cool. But, um, infusion brewery in Omaha made a beer just for Creighton. So pretty awesome. Blue Jays.
00:39:53
Speaker
All right. Sheena, we don't. Sheena, who's your shake? I don't know. It's one of my it's one of my favorite moments that we had together, Jordan. That is one of your favorites. Yeah, I'm putting Sheena on the spot to make a prediction for who's going to win March Madness this year. Kentucky, duh. OK, it's not a bad pick. Marco, what are you drinking?
00:40:16
Speaker
Um, I'm actually joining Sheena, uh, with a nice nightcap. I have, uh, some, uh, some Henny and Coke happening right now. So nice. Yeah. It's a classic. Yeah. Just topping it off here and there, but yeah, it's good. I mean, Henny and Coke, you can't go wrong. Henny and Ginger is actually really good too. Um,
00:40:46
Speaker
I've never done that. Anytime I've done Hennessy, I've either just done it straight or I mean on the rocks or with like a splash of coke. Sprite is good. Pretty good. As well. Henny and Sprite as well. All right. Let's hear from the Extra Cooler and then we will move on with the show. Hey everyone. It's Nick, better known as Extra Cooler. Is there anything better than diving back into the wrestling archives and watching classic matches from the past?
00:41:12
Speaker
Yes, there is. It's doing that with your buddies while cracking jokes and enjoying some ice cold beverages. If that sounds like fun to you, then be sure to check out my new podcast, The Extra Cooler Show, where each episode, my Survivor Series team and I review an old school match chosen by you, the listeners. The Extra Cooler Show is available wherever you get your podcasts. Be sure to subscribe and follow us for new episodes every other Thursday morning.
00:41:49
Speaker
Was that enough or should I keep the turkey voices for this whole segment? I can't. I'm like uncontrollably laughing at that. All right. It is Thanksgiving week. We told you guys at the start of the show we're thankful for all you. You guys know we like to get the food going from time to time on here. So let's just all kind of go around with our family Thanksgiving plans. We're kind of mixing it up a little bit over here this year. So she needs to kick ours off.
00:42:11
Speaker
So it's a sad year here in the Phelps home. It's a joyful year, but also sad because this will be the first year in like 12 years that we have not celebrated Thanksgiving with a Popeyes Cajun fried turkey. We just decided, yeah, I know. We just decided to switch it up a little bit this year. We're gonna go with some Southern fried chicken. I don't think people need to be a slave to the turkey at Thanksgiving.
00:42:40
Speaker
We're just kind of breaking the toxic cycle, dude. We love Popeyes Turkey. It was really good. But also, let me give you a little bit of perspective here, dude. The Popeyes Turkey jumped in price inflation, hashtag inflation. It is $95.
00:42:58
Speaker
for the Popeyes turkey. It was like 40 bucks when we first started buying it. That was like 12 years ago. It was like 60 something. I was going to say it kind of teetered around 60 for the last eight years. I was like a little annoyed that it got up that high. But yeah, the price jumped up to 95 bucks this year. 95 bucks. And it's like an eight or nine pound turkey. It's not even like a jumbo turkey. And we never eat it all anyways. Last year, Sheena made a absolutely exquisite turkey Popeye afterwards. But aside from that, it wasn't that memorable.
00:43:28
Speaker
I don't know about you guys, dude. I would take fried chicken over turkey like any day of the week. Any day of the week, bro. Turkey's still the traditional Thanksgiving meal. It does kind of give you that nostalgia hit, right? Having a nice big bird for Thanksgiving. But my mom and dad are coming out for Christmas, so we'll have a little bit more of a full house then. It just made more sense to wait. We're still going to get a Popeyes turkey for Christmas, but typically we double dipped and did one for Thanksgiving and Christmas. But this year, we're going to pass and just stick with some of Sheena's amazing homemade fried chicken.
00:43:57
Speaker
Yep. So we're doing that and I'm, for me, I'm a fan of the sides anyway. The sides really sing. Uh, I know Jordan, uh, will, will agree with this too. Like I think he's a sides fan too. Like sides are where it's at, man. Like I, even when we had the Turkey, I would get a little bit of Turkey and then just like stuffing.
00:44:15
Speaker
cranberry sauce, green beans. Just a little bit of turkey, just kind of tie it all together. Exactly. You mash potatoes, that's where the money's at. We'll go all out with the turkey and the ham for Christmas, but we're kind of breaking it up, doing something a little non-traditional for Thanksgiving. I do got to put you on the spot. I had a thought while me and Jordan were recording the long balls with Hawk from Turnbuckle Tavern earlier tonight. Is it too late to get some deviled egg action for Thanksgiving? No, that wasn't originally. Of course not. Yeah, deviled eggs are easy. We got to add that. You got to have deviled eggs with Thanksgiving.
00:44:43
Speaker
Yeah. And we have an abundance of eggs, so it's not a problem. Marco, what are you guys doing for Thanksgiving, man?
00:44:50
Speaker
Uh, so we're actually in the new house. We're actually, we're going to be hosting for the first time, like a full host. Anyway, last year we, we hosted to, uh, the end laws. Oh, well, my mother-in-law, my father-in-law, um, everyone was still kind of shaky. Um, obviously with, uh, with COVID and stuff like that. So, but this year everyone's in full force. Uh, so we're having everyone over. Like how many people you got, you got coming over? Oh my God. What are we talking about here? It might be.
00:45:19
Speaker
I'm thinking I could be wrong. I could be just over-exaggerated, but it might be, I think maybe 20 to 25 people. Oh, wow. It seems like it anyway, because there's a lot of couples, a lot of kids. Are you doing multiple birds? Or what's the turkey situation? Not multiple birds. We'll just do one bird. There's going to be a lot more sides than there are bird for a turkey anyway. So we just have everyone bringing sides and stuff like that. The turkey will be the main.
00:45:47
Speaker
main focus of it, um, cause there's a lot of like dishes and stuff like that, that the family likes to bring and stuff like that. So we'll, we'll, we'll dip into that. The, the, the Turkey will be more of the kind of like the, uh, the side piece to, to the, uh, that the Turkey will be the side. We'll put it that way. The Turkey will be the side to everything else. Um, that's how it's going to go. But yeah, it's always, it's always, I mean, obviously with the price of groceries, yeah, freaking delegate that shit out. You know what I mean? Like everybody breaks something, dude. But yeah, it is a,
00:46:14
Speaker
But the, yeah, the potluck style is always just such a hodgepodge. I kind of like it because I always had family that could like cook their butts off. So like we always say, I hate a potluck. It's always just like, it's like a hodgepodge because it's never, it's never a fully, like it's never a fully functional meal. You know what I mean? Like whenever it was just me and I'm definitely a little more open to it now that we get the kids dude. It just
00:46:37
Speaker
The kids just, you know, infinitely increased the difficulty level on prep and cooking and cleaning and everything. So I'm a little bit more open to it now, but like there would be times when it was just me and Sheena and we would have friends and vice over for Thanksgiving and like, you know, you look forward to that meal all year, right? That Thanksgiving meal. And we would turn down invitations just because we wanted to be in like total control of the menu of what we were going to eat that day. You know, what kind of dressing, what all sides, how the turkey is going to be prepared. Yeah.
00:47:02
Speaker
Seth, when you're Seth invited over like all the single sailors on his ship, you know, like there's a lot of people that you know, they're away from home on Thanksgiving, younger people in Hawaii, don't have any, you know, family or anything. And they don't have any, like, we were out to sea till the day before Thanksgiving that year. Remember, that's how the idea came up, because we found out we're going to be out to sea.
00:47:19
Speaker
until the day before Thanksgiving. So there was like zero chance even for those guys to do anything. Yeah. So a lot of these junior guys, yeah, hosted like 12 guys. I cooked like the entire freaking menu, dude. And it was on point too. Yeah, it was awesome. So yes, I spent like three days making all that stuff. And then, yeah. Was that the, uh, the corona achievement of your, uh, your culinary life?
00:47:37
Speaker
I was pretty good, man. I'm not going to lie. The fact that I pulled it off, like, you know, cause I mean the timing on Thanksgiving, I know you guys know, like you got to make sure you get the bird out. The same time you get the, this out, you know, like you want everything to kind of be like still a little bit warm situation to do between the counter and the fridge. Yeah. It's a ton of management.
00:47:57
Speaker
That goes into it. Yeah. And we, and we pulled it off, had enough food for everybody. Everything was delicious. And yeah, so I think that was, that was probably my crowning achievement as far as like just pulling something out of my hat that I had never done before. That was the first time I had fully taken on like hosting duties for, for Thanksgiving. So, and it felt good because I was giving those guys a place to go. We played games and watched football and you know, had a good, had a good night, you know, cause otherwise they would have been stuck on the ship, just eating whatever the freaking mess hall had or whatever, you know, that was a core memory for sure right there for Thanksgiving. Uh,
00:48:26
Speaker
Jordan, what do you guys plan? So we always go to my mom's house for Thanksgiving. It's just that's just where we always do big meals is my mom's
00:48:35
Speaker
Um, this year she's didn't really feel like having the stress of cooking. So we're catering our meal. Um, and I did, my mom's old when I was a little bit older. So she doesn't, she doesn't really want to want to do all that cooking. I mean, it's two days of cooking for her. Our last year in Hawaii, we went to the four seasons resort. They had a,
00:48:58
Speaker
they had a really bad ass restaurant there and they were, they did, we did Thanksgiving dinner at the four seasons. Big, big, big Thanksgiving, like buffet situation at the four seasons. And it was, it was money. So yeah, you don't got to explain to us too. Yeah, I understand. It's totally cool to take a year off from Thanksgiving. Like it was lovely that year. Yeah. So it kind of sucks though, because dude, I put my mom's cooking up against anybody's like, my mom doesn't even use recipes for anything anymore. She just straight up slays it in the kitchen. So it sucks a little bit that she's not cooking, but
00:49:26
Speaker
Um, I did Bri, we're a little bit into doing her stuffing because her stuffing is like my favorite thing ever. So she's, she's still going to do it. Um, but yeah, like Sheena said, the Turkey, honestly, this might be like completely off the wall thing. Dude, I could completely do without Turkey at this point. I am way on the boat of ham and sides. Like that's all I need. Like give me some sides and some ham and I'm good. I think ham is a far superior meat at this point. Um,
00:49:55
Speaker
But yeah, the sides have always been the same. Yeah, thanks for Christmas, man, because we're having our parents. I kind of got penciled in. We're going to get a turkey. But I'm still up to it. I feel like if I could find a place where I could just get six drumsticks or something like that. You can order. So I have farms and stuff that I can order turkey cuts from. Yeah.
00:50:15
Speaker
Another tip though, I mean obviously it's too late for this Thanksgiving, but if you aren't a fan of turkey and you find like it's a lot of work and you're not really getting the satisfaction that you want out of it, pick a smaller bird. It's better for you to get like multiple smaller birds because they absorb the brine better, they're more flavorful, they're more tender.
00:50:32
Speaker
Um, once they get really big, you know, especially like factory farm turkeys and so on, once they get like so big, like it's just, it's impossible for you to get a good flavor on, on all that meat. So yeah, go, go for the smaller birds. Even if you have to get multiple birds, you're going to be better off as far as like, oh, chickens. That's like organic chickens and stuff. I'm not even going to, you know, they're smaller because they're not built to just be like, you know, meat hounds.
00:50:55
Speaker
Um, they're, they're so freaking delicious because they're just, I mean, the meat is so much better. The skin to meat ratio is key to like the skin fat and meat ratio. You want to get like, I mean, it's nice.
00:51:10
Speaker
You gotta have a good bone in there too. I hate like giant chicken wings, dude. Where like, you know, you got to take like multiple bites of like completely like unsauced, unflavored chicken, dude.
00:51:26
Speaker
Yeah, a perfect size chicken is anywhere from like four to five pounds. That's a four to six. I'll even say six pounds, like four, a four to six pound chicken is, is where it's at any bigger than that. And you're losing a lot of, uh, you know, a lot of, uh, flavor and tenderness.
00:51:45
Speaker
All right, so since it's just one time a year, let's go around real quick. We'll do everybody's favorite side. So Sheena, what is your favorite Thanksgiving side? It's gotta be stuffing, man. Actually, I'll even go a step further. I like to take a bite of stuffing with a bite of cranberry sauce on it. Like, you know, just mix up a little bit of the savory meatiness, that tangy zip of the cranberry sauce. That's my favorite bite at Thanksgiving. Yeah, I go stuffing as well, just because I feel like
00:52:13
Speaker
Occasionally you can have a different times of the year, but for the most part, it's like a Thanksgiving Christmas. Yeah, dude. And it's bread that tastes like meat. Like what is better than that? It's delicious. Marco, what about you? Favorite side? Oh no, of course it's stuffing. I think we, we established this way back, go back to the archives about the Chick-Fully show. And I think we spent, I think, I think we spent like, like five to 10 minutes of talking about different types of stuffing.
00:52:37
Speaker
Uh, one of the episodes. Yeah, no, definitely in the cranberry cranberry of the can, by the way, not actual cranberries. Don't give me another bougie cranberry stuff. I want, I want the jelly ribbed for our pleasure. You want that, that like that sound that it makes when it pops out of the can. Yeah. Exactly. That's exactly the sound I like to hear.
00:53:02
Speaker
Jordan, what about you? What's your favorite side? It's a clean sweep here, dude. It's stuffing. And I'm telling you right now, if someone tells me that their favorite side is not stuffing, I know their family cooks trash food. Yeah, exactly. That's so true. It is so true.
00:53:17
Speaker
Like, dude, I've been to somebody's house before. They're like, oh, man, my mom makes some really good noodles or something. I'm like, so your mom can't cook. And he's like, what are you talking about? I'm like, how's her stuffing? And he goes, ah, stuffing's not very good. I'm like, what do you got cooking over here? Stove top? Yeah. And like, dude, don't get me wrong. I'm not opposed to some stove top. But bro, if you don't say that your favorite side is stuffing, like I know your family sucks at cooking.
00:53:42
Speaker
Real, real quick. I have to give you this little, this little horror story about stuffing. So, um, sis uncle is, uh, married to this chick and she's like, she eats. Wow, dude. So we're dropping down on the show, dude. I hope we're not listening. Yeah. She's married to a chick that like, yeah, just gluten free. And, uh, you don't know that they don't listen to this show. You got the green light. I'm not saying anything bad. You got to continue.
00:54:11
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It's what I don't think that they listen, but I don't know for a fact they are you know what if they are listening You don't listen. She'd have something to say yeah continue. She you're already committed now So here's the here's the thing so she's gluten-free, right? Oh
00:54:26
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which so she's like so that for the whole family thanksgiving you know ses uh grandma was in charge of making like so nice it's so accommodating they did a full gluten-free thanksgiving yeah they just gluten-free pie and everything so they went and like you know the whole the whole menu was gluten-free which let's be real
00:54:42
Speaker
Gluten free Thanksgiving is trash, dude. It's not Thanksgiving. It's not even Thanksgiving. Yeah, that's that's just it's just blasphemy, dude. So I remember ses mom came back from Thanksgiving and she was like, God, you like that was the worst meal I've ever had in my life. She said it was Thanksgiving.
00:54:59
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Gluten free. She's like, you know, and there's, I mean, and only one person was gluten free. I feel like if you're the odd man out, you're the gluten free person. Like you should bring your own stuff. Make some little snacks. Yeah. And bring your if you want gluten free stuffing or make both, but you can't make everybody eat gluten free just because one person is gluten free. Like that to me is like, that's robbery from Thanksgiving joy, dude. Like I, I would have been so
00:55:24
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annoyed. So word to the wise, if you're gluten free, and you're making your whole family gluten free, just because, you know, it's the holiday, like, you never rethink that shit. Yeah. This is my, this is my word for the wise. I don't know this person at all. But if I show up at a Thanksgiving dinner, and they're like, Hey, Sandra over here is gluten free. So we made everything gluten free. I'm gonna look Sandra straight in her eyes and be like, you stupid bitch.
00:55:52
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This is not in the format. I had no part in this topic coming up and I do not cosign anything. I'm actually reading it right here. It's in the format. It says, uh, those exact words. These are Sheena's thoughts and Sheena's thoughts alone. Yeah. I mean, uh, it's more like, you know, when you go over there, it's like Thanksgiving, more like no Thanksgiving. All right. All right, guys. All right.
00:56:18
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Thanks. Thanks. Yeah. And shout out. And if there's anybody on anybody that listens to our show that suffers with celiac disease, I'm obviously sensitive to your issues and I hate that you are. Thanksgiving is not your day. Any kind of like, you know, any kind of freaking like, you know, stomach disease, anything that's going to affect
00:56:39
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the way you eat your food. Thanksgiving ain't for you, man. It's just not. Yeah. So you got to let the people that are, you know, are just, it can't be for you, but you, you're the, unfortunately, you are the minority. So you're going to tailor your day to what you're going to tailor to the day and you're going to provide what you need or ask if we can provide certain things. But the whole, the whole meal cannot be accommodated to allergies. I'm just telling you right now, if that's me, I'm pushing through and dairy and
00:57:07
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Yeah, gluten. We're gonna have all the shit. No vegans. Yeah. I'm pushing through. If I, if I had gluten, if I'm gluten free, I'm pushing through on Thanksgiving. Like if I have a fucking shock and needed to go to the hospital, well, I guess that's just the Lord's plan. Yeah.
00:57:26
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All right, so I wasn't really planning on us going 22 minutes on Thanksgiving talk. I thought that was going to be just a little bonus. But typically, we get the biggest response on non-wrestling stuff when we do the show. So I think the listeners enjoy this. Let's go quick on Survivor Series, man. I'm going to give everybody one match and just give me your speed around prediction. So Jordan, I'll start you off, man. Women's War Games. Is it going to be Team Damage Control or Team Bianca?
00:57:58
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I feel like team damage control probably needs this more, so I lean that way. So I'm going to go damage control on this one. Are we all thinking that Becky Lynch is going to end up being the fifth person on team EST? Yeah.
00:58:18
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Yeah. Um, all right. Marco men's war games. Does the, uh, the, the brawling brutes plus drew and KO or the bloodline? Um, we actually just talked about this because we recorded a quick episode for raw down. Uh, we're actually both going with the brawling brutes drew and KO for the wind. Um,
00:58:39
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We're predicting this is kind of like the start of the, you know, the cracks in the bloodline. Because you got to think this is the last pay-per-view for the year up until Royal Rumble. So they have this whole, like, you know, month or so, or a couple months to build a storyline up until Royal Rumble. So we think that's pretty much what's going to happen. And the bloodline doesn't have to win. I mean, Roman doesn't have to get panned.
00:59:06
Speaker
Um, they can set up the storyline where, you know, KO pins Jay, um, and Sammy Zane. He's either in the position where, you know, he has to kind of take out his friend or help Jay. Um, I think that's where that's, I think that's where they're going to go with it essentially. And that's going to set up some opponents for Roman in the coming months. Cause he definitely needs some, uh,
00:59:26
Speaker
Some people to battle. So yeah, yeah, I feel that I definitely see some sort of Jay and Sammy situation being the The end game for this man, you know me and Jordan were kind of talking earlier this week Like we see usos versus Sammy Zane and KO being a WrestleMania match. Yeah, she'd be a pretty badass one at that
00:59:44
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All right, Shane, I'm not even going to give you the softball of picking Ronda Rousey and Shotzi. I want to know, do you think Shotzi last six minutes with Ronda Rousey? No, no way. I like Shotzi a lot. It seems like she does not have very much steam behind her for this. This is going to be just a destruction. In Shotzi's defense, I wouldn't last six minutes with Ronda Rousey either. Exactly.
01:00:07
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No matter if it's wrestling or in the bedroom. A.J. with the O.C. going up against Finn. I feel like Finn's winning this, man. The Judgment Day has been booked so strongly over the last few months, and I feel like they keep it going right now. A.J.'s bulletproof at this point with how much success that he's had in WWE, so he could take a loss. This is not going to hurt him any. I see Finn winning this and seeing where he goes from here, man, there's definitely big things in Finn Bower's future.
01:00:35
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since Triple H just took over and then she and we're going to let you finish this off the triple threat for the US championship set freaking Rollins against Austin theory and Bobby Lashley who wins
01:00:47
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I think it's got to be Rollins winning, dude. I think this is just going to really kind of just reset Austin theory for whatever comeback situation he's going to have. I don't think it really makes sense for him to lose the briefcase and then come back and win the US title. So I think this will further kind of spiral him to give him a chance to make a, you know, a triumphant comeback. But yeah, I'm going with Rollins retaining.
01:01:10
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Hell yeah, that would be an outstanding way to put a bow on Survivor Series weekend with Seth keeping that U.S. title. All right, let's hear from the two bad chads at Turnpumple Tavern, and then we'll get into some figure talk.
01:01:24
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01:02:08
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Alright it's time for the weekly figure four segment where we get all into the wrestling action figure world remind you guys that this segment is brought to you by ringside collectibles and use code chick Foley to save 10%. So again it's Thanksgiving week so we're going to kick off this week with Sheena leading some discussion on what figures were most thankful for.
01:02:29
Speaker
All right, guys, so I'm gonna throw some questions out to you guys. What of the figures that have come out? Well, I guess it could be any figure. We'll say any figure, but if you got one that came out in 2022, I'd love to know. What figure are you most thankful for, Jordan?
01:02:46
Speaker
I'm gonna actually go the Shawn Michaels Ultimate Edition. I just I feel like that figure is just so well done in Ultimate Edition form and Yeah, I'm glad I got two of them so I could bust one open because you guys know I'm MOC. So
01:03:02
Speaker
anytime I get to bust a figure. That figure was so nice, you had to get it twice. I did. You're going to break it open. How did it feel to bust it open? I was doing something wrong, honestly. I felt like when you're watching the grainy porn on your TV in the basement, that's how I felt when I opened it.
01:03:24
Speaker
You're like, oh, this is, it just feels so wrong. It feels so gross, you know, but you have to, you have to admit this. Did you, did you go with the slice and open technique or did you just go full like pause on box, like ripping it out? Sheena, you know who I am. Like, what, what do you think I did? Do you think I fucking went into the kitchen and got a fucking knife or do you think I just went straight bear claw on that box? I think you, I think you bear clawed the hell out of that box. That thing was unrecognizable when I was done with it.
01:03:50
Speaker
See that's what happens when you, when you pin up all of that opening aggression and then you, when you finally get to open one, you just take it out and it just comes out in a full rate of fury. Yeah. I mean, I've, I've said that numerous times. It wasn't about a figure, but what about you, Marco? What figure are you most thankful for? Um,
01:04:09
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I had two, but we'll go with one. I'm not going to ride the fence, but I'm going to go with Zeus, Ultimate Edition Zeus, our IP, Tiny Zeus. I don't think we'd, obviously with Mattel Creations, it's made it possible for these types of figures to come out.
01:04:34
Speaker
you know, better now than never. And I think this is one of those figures that is just like, you know, that it's just like a once in a lifetime thing. You're not going to get multiple figures of this one. I wouldn't think anyway. Kind of like Mr. T, when he had his Ultimate Edition San Diego Comic Con exclusive come out and then numerous amounts of figures. I think just this one Zeus figure is all you're going to get pretty much. I don't think there's much else you could do with it.
01:05:02
Speaker
So I'm definitely thankful for that coming out. And you can double it as a, as a debo figure as well. If you get the right clothing for it.
01:05:10
Speaker
100%. I'm going to go with, uh, the Supreme Malachi black figure, because there was a time when, uh, when Malachi was kind of, you know, on the outs with AEW. And I was like, Oh, bro, like you cannot, yeah, I thought for a moment, like, what if he, you know, gets fired or, you know, leaves the company or whatever. Are we still going to get this figure? And we had already seen like,
01:05:33
Speaker
the mock-ups and everything of it and how awesome it was gonna be. And then to have it in hand, it's even better than what we thought it was gonna be. It just turned out amazing. So very thankful that we ended up getting that figure and also thankful for how much detail and just incredible artistry went into that figure too.
01:05:50
Speaker
So I probably overthought this, man. I knew we were going to put this in the format and I was actually thinking about this all day at work today. The Owen Hart. And not to get like, yeah. What's up? The Owen Hart figure. That's what you're going to say, right? Yeah. I thought about saying Owen too, but it's hard. So yeah, go ahead and give your thoughts. I don't even like that figure. I know. That's right. I really don't, man. Those things are fantastic. Yeah, I was being serious though. That's my pick, man, just because
01:06:18
Speaker
Um, you know, it hasn't been perfect, like the Owen Hart integration, the AEW, but I at least hope that this is like, you know, opened his kids back up to, uh, you know, the world of wrestling to be able to kind of just embrace their dad's legacy. Cause you know, obviously he was taken from us way too soon and dude was just absolute legend, man. Like he was just such a great heel. So many classic funny moments in addition to putting on just straight up bangers in the ring. Um,
01:06:44
Speaker
And so I'm just thankful for, even though I don't love that figure by any means, I'm just thankful for what it symbolizes and I'm hopeful that Jeremy and the team at Jazzwares can give us something a little bit more to what we're wanting from the figure collecting aspect down the road. Yeah, I agree. Could not have said it better myself.
01:07:00
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All right, so we're gonna do some quick live review on here. Sheena has the brand new Mega Powers ringside exclusive set right here in her hands. They're already bagged up, but she's checking them out. Sheena, give us your thoughts on this ringside exclusive set.
01:07:15
Speaker
I mean, what can I say, dude? It's mage. The handshake sculpt is just like, I love little details like that. The fact that they didn't just make two separate hands. It's one piece. It's one piece, yeah. The fact that they didn't make two separate hands in the handshaking position, they actually molded it together so that it would legit look like a handshake. Yeah, it's just, this is just epic. A beautiful set. Macho Man got the Hulk tan going on. Yeah, just beautiful.
01:07:44
Speaker
Yeah, they killed it. I mean, the Hulk's cool, but he's very similar to other Hulks we got just with the mega powers across the booty. The Macho Man is awesome though. The robe is great, the banana's great. And like Sheena said, he's got the Hulk tan. I feel like I need them to re-release every Macho Man figure they've done so far with this new tan, dude. That skin tone that they made up for the Hulks last year, dude, it really sets them off and makes them really stand out on the shelf.
01:08:10
Speaker
And we finally, we finally have a pair to go with our Liz figure, dude. Yeah, that Liz figure came out in, I don't remember if that was 2020 or 2019 with SummerSlam set. Yeah. But yeah, we got the whole set now. Yeah, just a really good set. That whole definitely has lust in his eyes. I can see it. This face scan is lusty AF. Jordan, Mark, are you guys planning on adding this set to your collection?
01:08:37
Speaker
Yeah, I will get it. Eventually. I just don't have it yet. Yeah, same here. That was really we didn't really add any like out of the ordinary stuff there for to the collection besides from that here recently. Did you did, George, do you have anything interesting here the last couple of weeks? I don't think so. I think this has been a pretty pretty slow.
01:09:01
Speaker
For this time of year, it's been really slow for me as far as figure collecting goes and Funko collecting goes. It's going to be Christmas time. You got to start figuring out what you're going to get everybody for Christmas. No, you have to treat yourself 365 days a year. You worry about everybody else when you have time to worry about everybody else. You got to treat yourself first.
01:09:25
Speaker
We randomly found a complete set of the Royal Rumble elites. Sheena did Target like a week and a half ago. And I had passed on that Jimmy Hart build a figure at first, but then I started thinking like, you know, I kind of needed to go with my class. You passed on it that day. I was already up at the checkout. He said, are you already, are you, have you already left Target? I was like, no, he's like, go back and get that Royal Rumble set.
01:09:46
Speaker
Yeah. And you know, when you're, you know, when you're already like in the checkout, you know, mind frame, like you're getting in line and then you got to walk all the way back to the toys. I was like, Oh, it doesn't sound like set something. Seth would do it all. So while we're on this topic, let's talk about the airing of grievances. Yeah. Marco, do you had anything recently?
01:10:06
Speaker
Of course, you have to get the Cody Rhodes Supreme Walmart exclusive. Oh, nice. I mean, why not? I mean, if you don't have that, I don't know what's wrong with you. Yeah, if you don't have the 30 Cody Rhodes, what are you even doing with the collection? Add to the Cody collection, the Cody Army.
01:10:30
Speaker
Yeah, I saw it in person and I almost pulled the trigger on it, but I'm still not a huge Cody fan. I was like, I already have the regular Supreme. Like I don't need this. If he was going to wait until it does, it's not on the shelves anymore and it like triples in value and these people like, you know what? I need that code. Yeah. If he would have had a different jacket, man, I think I would have got it. Yeah. All right. Let's, uh, let's hear from coming down the aisle and then we got another edition of how many chicks.
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01:11:18
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01:11:42
Speaker
She's just dancing along to the music, man. How do you not dance to Sami Zane's music? If we do end up getting Sami and KO against the Usos at Mania, they definitely need to bring back Babyface Sami's theme music.
01:11:51
Speaker
That'd be a huge pop of that mania crowd. So it's time for how many chicks? This is the first time we've done this in a while, actually. I feel like it's been a few months. Yeah. But this is the segment where I've randomly selected one of our over 1300 at this point, wrestling figures. It's going to be revealed to Sheena live on the air. She's going to do a live review and rate it. And then Jordan and Marco will give their star ratings along with it. You ready for me to hit the drum Sheen? Let's go.
01:12:20
Speaker
Cracked open my double deep, double wide Undertaker casket here. Oh baby. We got the Supreme DMD Britt Baker. Seth has her set up in her ring gear trunks. The Supremes is too much to fit inside the Undertaker's casket. I have the business.
01:12:43
Speaker
Yeah, I have the business legs here too, and the Britzburg shirt. Yeah, this figure's awesome, dude. I mean, what can you say about it? I love the little Pittsburgh detailing. Yeah, the Steelers inspired gear makes it awesome. Yeah, the white, I always love an action figure that's in white and gold. That color combination just pops.
01:13:00
Speaker
Uh, I love the little DMD finger. She's got some serious junk in the trunk. I don't know what this articulation on the ass is. AEW women's figures have got the apple bottom universally, whether the chicks got that much, they're packing that much ass or not. Like these things are freaking stacked in the rear, dude. Yeah. Every single one of them. For sure. So yeah, it's, it's a great figure. Um,
01:13:20
Speaker
I love the, uh, between like the Supreme and the, um, the ultimate edition line, dude, like the molded like jacket arms. Like I feel like that's a game changer, dude. Like it's, it's obviously it crushes like the, the Polly pocket style, like plastic shell jackets we got for so many years. And I even like this better than soft goods. Cause I feel like you can just put so much texture, dude, like I'm
01:13:42
Speaker
And not even just texture, but the paint detailing and everything looks so much better on the plastic. Did you mention this was the first one with the DMD hands and stuff? Yeah, very cool figure. Jordan, Marco, have you guys added this from your collection yet? Of course. Who wouldn't?
01:13:59
Speaker
Oh, look, she's got the Pittsburgh cityscape on the side of her. I didn't even realize that that was on the other side of the trunks. Jordan, you got you got the Supreme Britt Baker yet. I don't have it yet, but I'm definitely going to add it. I feel like I'm showing up the targets now. Yeah, I feel like I'm just going to get all these Supreme figures and fucking sink a bunch of money into them and have no place to put them. So yeah, life is great over here. Yeah. So are you still MOC with your Supreme figures as well?
01:14:26
Speaker
I don't know, I don't have one yet. So I'll make that decision when I get the first one. The boxes are huge on those things. So yeah, they do take up some serious real estate. Yeah. Huge box is always a problem. You just got to know how to handle it, where to put it. You know, it's just, it's always a problem. They seem to fit a whole lot in those big boxes though. Oh my God, dude. You guys are off the chain. I love it when everybody drinks on this
Listener Questions and Humorous Debates
01:14:50
Speaker
show. It just makes it 10 times better. I'm sure the listeners just love it too.
01:14:55
Speaker
I know Sober October is long in the rears. Wow. All right, it's time to get these rankings going. Sheena, you go first, man. From 0.0 to 5.0, what do you give Supreme Britt Baker?
01:15:13
Speaker
I give her a 4.5. Um, I think, I mean, it's definitely Brit's best figure in my opinion. Um, and as far as like women's figures go, it's definitely top tier. I don't know. I'm trying to think of who a five star women's figure is. Maybe like the, um, the Ruby Soho of the NXT. I love that figure. What'd you say, Jordan? What about that Nyla Rose figure you love so much?
01:15:37
Speaker
Oh, yeah. So I give her 4.5.
01:15:45
Speaker
This, all right, so just for the record, that ties Sheena's highest rating. She also gave a 4.5 to unrivaled three, Darvie Allen. That figure's awesome. And Elite 47 to Tonka, so. Okay. Britt Baker's in a three-way tie. Nobody can break through that 4.5 glass dealing with Sheena, man. I know. It's just, that's kind of where she holds the line at. Yeah. It's going to take a lot to get a five-star rating. Jordan, what do you, what do you give Britt?
01:16:12
Speaker
Um, without having it in hand, just looking at pictures online, I think this figure's great. Um, like Sheena said, it's probably the best women's figure AWS put out. I'm going to go with a 4.6 for Brit. Oh, wow. So since we just say, yeah, so we've only done, I guess how many chicks it almost kind of died out. This is only the second time we've done this, uh, like in the last year, cause Jordan only has one other on the books. This is Jordan's highest ranked figure ever. It passed up, uh,
01:16:41
Speaker
AEW unrivaled five Adam page who Jordan gave a 3.9 to smash Jordan's right? Yeah, the last time we did this is this segment was sponsored by homage and we yeah We haven't worked with them. We did stop it a long time. Yeah, we still love everything Yeah does but they're the people their affiliate program was just not great. Yeah Yeah, it was really good and then they handed it off they like instead of doing it in-house they pass it off to a third-party company and it just
01:17:06
Speaker
It just wasn't worth our while, dude. You got every single Chick Foley show listener would have had been buying like six Omid shirts a month for it to just make sense for us to even keep plugging it. Exactly, yeah. Still leather shirts, soft shirts, amazing. Love them, but yeah, their affiliate program was kind of garbage. So I'll give it a 4.2. I love the gear, love the whole Supreme concept. I don't love the head scopes on this figure though, man. Really?
01:17:34
Speaker
I only got one out here right now. The other ones are still out in their little accessory bag. What do you not like about it? You said she looks kind of plain, right? I just think it's kind of soft, dude. I feel like if you took this off the figure and just showed me this head sculpt, I don't think I'd be like, yeah, that's Britt Breaker. It just kind of looks like generic brunette number four to me.
01:17:52
Speaker
I don't know. I think it really looks like Britt Baker. I mean, yeah, I guess they could have done a little bit. I mean, it's kind of soft to me. The women's, the women's heads are like so small. Like, I don't know how much more detail you can get on them, but yeah, she definitely needs a little bit more bolder makeup, but I mean, she does have her signature red eyeshadow. Um, I think it looks like Britt.
01:18:10
Speaker
I don't know. I mean, it looks fine on the figure. I just, I mean, 4.2 is still a really good score. There's only a few figures I've given higher than a 4.2. Um, but it's not, it's just not the top for me. She does have an underbite, which I can't imagine as a dentist. Yeah. As a dentist, she would have an underbite. So this figure, uh, definitely has an underbite situation going on. All right, Marco, what do you give her? I'm going with a 4.75 for me. Wow.
01:18:38
Speaker
Just kept getting higher and higher. I said the bar. I think the smiling head sucks. The smiling head scan is awful. The other one's awesome. That's the one that's on the figure right now. Well, that's why you don't like the figure because the smiling head scan sucks. Yeah.
01:18:54
Speaker
So with that she comes out to a 4.5 average so she's going to be tied with unrivaled three Darby Allen for the how many high score and how many chicks history elite 47 to Tonka still holding the crown man for the
01:19:10
Speaker
That's a talk of figures man. It's a great figure. Yeah, it's perfectly like it's damn near perfect for a for a tatanka, but that's That's where she can end up at so great showing and yeah I'll try to make sure we keep how many chicks more more active in the rotation of bonus segments She and we got some listener mail. Of course we do
01:19:37
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All right. Our first question comes in from our good buddy, Ryan Ferguson. Uh, real quick. I want to take a, just a moment to just shout out Ryan and tell him how much we're thinking about him. He's going through a really rough time right now. We here at the Chick Foley show love Ryan. He's been around since day. Oh gee. Oh gee. Day one is raw as Ryan. Yeah. Two biggest supporters ever.
01:19:57
Speaker
Yeah, since day one, Ryan has been a huge supporter of all things Chick-Foli. And I just want to let him know that I'm sending him our love and support and whatever we can do to help you out during this difficult time. Ryan, we're here for you. So he says, since this is a great question, how would you describe wrestlers as Thanksgiving dishes? Any promotion, example, like Roman Reigns equals the ham. Something to think about. I think Roman Reigns is the stuffing.
01:20:25
Speaker
Why would you be the stuffing? Because that's the, that's the, that's the absolute pinnacle of like the Thanksgiving meal to you. You, everyone, we all acknowledged the stuffing, dude. Did any of us acknowledge the Turkey? I mean, like how many Googlers got to be the Turkey, right? I mean, clearly. Yeah. Yeah. If we're going literal, I'm going to be deal you. Um,
01:20:44
Speaker
I feel like the stuffing would be somebody like Lita or like Sunny or something. Wow. What? Why are we back in the freaking attitude era? I'm just saying, they were the ones always got stuffed, right? Let's have any other questions. Wow. Any other inquiries? Am I lying?
01:21:07
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Anybody else? I cannot confirm nor deny any malicious rumors. Anything else? I would say the usos are like the deviled eggs because you got to have at least two, you know? I think Seth pretty much killed this segment, so we should probably move on to the next. Thanks a lot. Thanks for ruining the show, Seth.
01:21:33
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Just end the show. Dude, you guys have been making inappropriate comments all night long, dude. You're supposed to be the moral compass of this show, dude. Oh, you guys finally corrupted me. Chris Foreman. Let's take a moment to congratulate Chris Foreman. He just had a daughter, little Sydney. He dropped us a picture here. Precious. November birthdays are the best to do. My birthday's in November, and even though sometimes this year is actually on Thanksgiving,
01:21:59
Speaker
and it can kind of get overshadowed a little bit. I just feel like it's the perfect time because it's like you have it, but then there's still like enough time before Christmas where you get the full Christmas experience too. And it's just like, it's just like an awesome time of year, dude. It's like your birthday's like the appetizer for Christmas as a kid, you know? Yeah. So congrats on joining the dad ranks and congrats to you and the family on the arrival of little Sydney. So is turkey really even necessary for Thanksgiving? Also deviled eggs, am I right? Them shit's delicious.
01:22:27
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Yeah, I think, again, Chris, congrats on the baby, man. I think we kind of answered that question. We went in depth on Thanksgiving dinner a little bit earlier. Yeah, turkey's definitely not necessary. It's not necessary, but deviled eggs aren't necessary. As you heard on the show, we made an impromptu call to make deviled eggs, add them to our menu. We need to start it up around September 15th next year, just start a campaign going to get people out of this turkey peer pressure that the Pilgrim started on us all those years ago. Bam, turkey. Exactly.
01:22:57
Speaker
Ban the turkey. I don't even think you got to ban it, but only get turkey if you want it. Yeah, exactly. That needs to be the thing. You need to ask yourself- Everyone has the freedom to make a choice. Yeah, you need to ask yourself, do I really want turkey? Or you could have anything. We're doing fried chicken. Why not do you like surf and turf? You know what I mean? Steak. Yeah, would I rather not have steak something steaming? Just some nice fillets and some lobster tails, dude. Some ribeyes, dude. That'd be fucking delicious. Yeah.
01:23:19
Speaker
I think you need to take a hard look in the mirror if Turkey is your favorite thing. I feel like we can have an in-depth discussion about this, but come on, dude. Turkey? Turkey's all about nostalgia, dude. It is about nostalgia. That's where it's going to be. I mean, there are some good bites, right? It's not completely shit on it.
01:23:35
Speaker
Turkey can be pretty good. Turkey is never going to be the best. There's always a better option out there than Turkey. So you're just going for the nostalgia and the tradition. Turkey is always stressful because it is such a, you can really mess it up, dude. Yeah. You can mess it up like hardcore. Like, you know, the outside gets burnt and the inside still frozen. Like I see people every year just like freaking out.
Consumer Excitement and Packaging Concerns
01:23:57
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Like, how do I cook this turkey? Like nobody even knows how to cook turkeys.
01:24:00
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right like nobody you have to google that shit every single year because you only cook turkeys once a year like for a while you know like there was always like you gotta brine it right and as a kid i never heard shit about brining brining is that brining is the only way if you're gonna cook a turkey brine like two days earlier you need nowadays people saying dry brine they don't even say wet brine anymore
01:24:17
Speaker
But I mean either way you gotta at least brine it like brining is essential for a flavorful turkey But I started to constantly change the rules of us. I remember it was like spatchcock that became like the only way that proper That's why I cook chickens a spatchcock chicken It is it is the best way to cook it evenly because you remove that backbone and it really kind of lays out the chicken But I get that I'm just saying that was even a things like a couple years ago, dude
01:24:40
Speaker
I'm saying we've been cooking turkey since the Pilgrims. Exactly. And we still have it figured out like a foolproof way. And everybody has the foolproof way on the blog. By this time there should just be one fucking way to cook a turkey, man. Exactly, yeah. No, you could fry it. As we've seen, we watched people fail, setting their whole houses on fire the other day, like frying turkeys and stuff on these YouTube videos. Pretty crazy. So if you're out there frying a turkey, do make sure it's all the way thawed. Be careful, proceed with caution. Yeah, it's ridiculously dangerous deep frying turkey. Yeah, so do it away from your house.
01:25:09
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Brian Vermeer says, what is your opinion that the Mattel Creation exclusive figures are not selling out? Personally, I think it's great. I mean, I'm kind of torn, man. I feel like, so yeah, the Coliseum Collection, they're still sitting there, which that's kind of the same way the last retro set was, the last retro set sat for a while. Are those retro still available, Jordan? Do you know? I don't know. I think they are, but I don't know for sure. I'll check it real quick.
01:25:34
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Yeah, I mean, so I got some serious thoughts on this as a sneaker collector, dude. I feel like there's kind of a happy medium. You kind of do want it to sell out, because that's kind of the fun of it, right? You got this exclusive thing that some people missed out. It's a hot item that you had to be on it to get. There's some
01:25:52
Speaker
Something deep inside your brain that rewards that stuff. It's like a sense of pride. Yeah, exactly. It helps to borrow a phrase from the major pod. That's what scratches that itch. It feels good about it, but you still want the stuff to be available. I feel like in a perfect world, it would sell out within two or three hours. Everybody that really wanted it had a chance to get it, but it's not just sitting there where suddenly it ends up on ringside collectibles a couple months later. Yeah.
01:26:20
Speaker
I don't know. I feel like there's a happy medium there. Jordan Marco, you guys got any, any strong feelings in the direction on that? So the retro figures are still available on my, on Mattel creations. And dude, I'm with you. I don't know, man, when I got me and you both a set of the no holds barred, like there was a sense of pride that I got them and they were gone within 10 minutes.
01:26:42
Speaker
I think that's a sneaker collector. I just, I think that's a sneaker collector in me. Like dude, when you say it's a limited edition figure, I don't want everyone in the world to have that figure. Like that's the fun in it. So I don't know, man. I don't love that they're all still available. I get it. Everybody can get them.
01:27:01
Speaker
I think that's the fun of the limited releases. You don't know if you're going to do it. Do you think, do you think it's because they're not as limited? Do you think it's like a, you know, um, economical thing? Do you think it's like, where it's like people are just like being more judicious about where they're spending their money? Like.
01:27:17
Speaker
I think they made a lot more to meet demand, dude. At the end of the day, they want to make money and eventually they're going to sell through, right? Or if they don't, somebody like Ringside Collectibles will buy them up and sell them on their site. So, eventually they're going to sell. I think they want to make people happy. I do think as much as I love it, I think that Terry Funk figure being in there definitely killed some of the demand because it's expensive, right? It's Christmas time and you're still talking after shipping like 75 bucks.
01:27:41
Speaker
for a set of figures. Though the hardcore wrestling fans and collectors were hyped on that Terry Funk, there's a lot of people who were like, I can wait, because we've gotten a shitload of Hulk Hogan's this year. I think we've gotten...
01:27:53
Speaker
We've gotten what, three Hulk Hogan's already between the, the ultimate edition series 13, the Amazon fan takeover, and the, um, the no holds a bar said this is going to be the fourth ultimate edition Hulk Hogan we've had in the last year. Yeah. Yeah, I agree. I think it's, I think it, I mean, I think it's just a set in general, not, not that it's like a bad set at all.
01:28:14
Speaker
I just think you just came out with a Hogan that that, like you said, the no holds barred one. Like, I mean, obviously, you know, the you know, the white with the red trunks looks cool. But I mean, you can't trump the Ripham Hogan. I mean, yeah, it's just I think it's just kind of I think people kind of see it as overkill at this point with with all the Hogan figures. There's only so much you're going to shell out on Hogan's back to back to back. Yeah. I mean, he's still a racist piece of shit. No matter how big figures are. Exactly.
01:28:44
Speaker
All right. Great question, Brian. He also hit us with a second. How will grading work once companies go windowless? Will this still be worth it? Sorry for all windowless questions, but it's driving me crazy, so much so that I opened a few and tried to display them. Well, as far as I understand it, Jordan, you probably want the smartest of me, dude. I think when they do
01:29:06
Speaker
When they grade figures in the box, I don't even think they're looking at the actual figure. I think they're just grading the condition of the box. Am I right on that, Jordan? OK, so 90% of it is the grading is the actual box, but there is 10% of it that's based off the actual figure. Like if there's a paint smudge or something on it, that does knock it down a bit. It's not the biggest part of the grading, though. So that's not going to completely kill it or anything.
01:29:31
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to the problem still to me though is and I'm not integrating figures at all or cards or anything like that. But if it's windowless, how are they grading what's inside the box like
01:29:43
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Yeah, that's what he's saying. What's going to happen? I don't think it's going to change grading. I can see it just changing the MOC. I think you're going to see MOC collecting going down big time, dude, because you're just getting a box, man. Why even pay for the fucking figure, dude? Just get somebody to fucking open the figure and carefully reseal the box, and you got it, dude.
01:30:02
Speaker
I feel like... I mean, where are you at on this, Jordan? You're the MOC collector here, dude. Like, fucking... If Mattel goes all windowless, are you still gonna collect wrestling figures MOC? Okay, let me word it like this. Like, there is... I think 50% of the world is MOC, 50% of the world is open. And I just feel like that 50% of the world that's MOC is just gonna completely go away from it. Like, I don't feel like...
01:30:26
Speaker
that 50% is just going to open all their figures. I feel like they're- Yeah, I agree with that. I don't know about the 50-50 ratio, but I definitely agree with the sentiment there. I don't see them suddenly becoming loose collectors. They're just going to go back and start getting more old stuff that they can use. Exactly. It's a principle thing to them. That's part of the collecting is having the packaging and stuff, dude. I don't see them just being like, oh, well, here we go. We got to open all the figures.
01:30:50
Speaker
Yeah. So I feel like once those people stop buying the new figures because they don't have a window in it, they're going to be forced to go back to the window figure. So I don't think this is going to last honestly. And I've heard a lot of people complain about it with the Mattel legends figures and
01:31:06
Speaker
Well, who's even sending like new figures in to get graded, like the mass release figures and stuff? People do it. Really? It's typically not so much like the mass release stuff, but like some of the more rare limited edition stuff and everything they'll send in and get graded. Well, maybe they'll just like- Or older stuff, especially. So aren't there companies, there's already companies right now that are doing windowless packaging. Is it Hasbro doing it right now? Hasbro is doing it. So maybe they'll just create a new criteria for figures, you know what I mean? Like a new grading criteria for figures that you can't see the figure in, you know what I mean?
01:31:36
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because they can't automatically dock that 10% or add that 10% because they can't see. Yeah, I think the grading part's easy, man. I think overall what it's going to do to the MOC collecting community, I think that's the real question for this.
01:31:49
Speaker
Yeah, I think it's going to suck for them. I hate it for them. I hate it for us and we're loose collectors. Yeah, I still like to have the nice packaging. Not even that. I just hate that. If there's three of the exact same figure on the shelf, I'm going to look at those three and pick the ones. Yeah, see, make sure they don't have a wonky eye or a paint smudge on the hair. I'm looking to find the best one and you're not going to be able to do that even if you are a loose collector. Yeah, windowless sucks.
01:32:16
Speaker
Zach Hertzler says, any idea of who may main event both nights of WrestleMania 39?
WrestleMania 39 Predictions
01:32:21
Speaker
I mean, hopefully whoever WWE is listening to our show just takes my advice and night one is Roman versus Cody and night two is Roman versus The Rock.
01:32:30
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Yeah. I can't see any situation where it's not like some, some combination of Cody, Roman and rock. Although I will say it on the air, you know, I clowned Jordan for, uh, about his Bray Wyatt versus Roman at WrestleMania. I would be totally fine with that. I'd still probably rather see my Roman and Cody and Roman rock things. It's such a beautiful story, but I would not sweat it off. Bray Wyatt ends up made a video in WrestleMania.
01:32:54
Speaker
All right. We're not going to give Marco George a chance to answer. Chime in boys. Chime in boys. Where did that come from? Oh my god. The bourbon. Oh jeez. Come on boys, chime in. Like she's ringing the feed bill.
01:33:23
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I think we just share the same sentiments. It definitely has to be raw. I'm not sure if Roman's gonna do both nights.
01:33:31
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I could see like obviously, you know, stone cold. They, they, they show he's been working out. He said he isn't really working out to get back back in the ring, but I think, I think he got bit by the, uh, by the bug last year. And I think he'll be making another run so I can easily see him being eventing one of the nights again, and then maybe rock and roll with the next night. So yeah, I'm picking stone cold to be, to be that main event for the first night.
01:33:58
Speaker
I'm doubling down, dude. I, I think Bray is going to main event. One of the two nights. I just, I think he's the second biggest thing they got going right now. I just, I don't see how he does not main event. One of the two nights. So what do you think? Are you thinking break gets Roman one night or what?
01:34:14
Speaker
Dude, I still am just not against Roman. Who would you go against? That's what I don't know, dude. I'm still kind of just baffled by this whole Roman thing. I eventually do not. He doesn't need a title. I mean, that level two, they could do brain set. Yeah, I think that could totally made it. We saw it with the Fiend, dude. The Fiend does not need a title, dude. He doesn't need accolades. Like whatever this thing Bray Wyatt is doing, he does not need accolades. He just needs good storytelling.
01:34:39
Speaker
a good opponent. Um, and, uh, for them to give him a chance to actually win the match and win his, win his feuds. I'm putting this on record. The rock does not wrestle again in WWE. I just, I don't see it, dude. That dude's movie career is so much bigger than that gut feeling too. Yeah. I just think his movie career is just so much bigger than anything anyone ever expected it to be.
01:35:01
Speaker
He's the owner of the XFL. He's going to have so much stuff going on at that time. XFL season is going to be in full force at that time. I just don't think he has time to wrestle anymore, dude. I can only imagine that he's got so many commitments lined up for the next freaking five years that they're not going to allow him to just get in there with risk injury or risk something happening. He gets hurt and can't do anything for six months. He's only hurting himself. Exactly. I don't feel like they're going to do that. It's just not worth it.
01:35:31
Speaker
I'm losing, I haven't given up hope, but I'm starting to lose hope because I feel like if we were getting the rock at WrestleMania, I feel like they would already announced it. I feel like they would have done something before tickets went on sale. Go ahead and plant that. Even if they didn't straight up announce it, go ahead and at least plant the seed. Have him run out at SummerSlam or do something, man. He could just pop up at the rumble, dude. I mean, that would be pretty huge. I mean, he could, but the last time when he came back, it was months in advance that they started hyping it up. It was pre-rumble.
01:35:58
Speaker
And what are you going to do? Have Rock be a surprise entrant in the rumble? No, not a surprise entrant in the rumble, but just like maybe then start like planting the seeds. You know what I mean? Yeah. I just, I feel like they would have started to build. Like it was almost a year long build both times. The last time he was at Mania. So, um, I don't know. We'll see, man. He could just he could just harken back to, uh, the rumble with Roman. He'd be like,
01:36:19
Speaker
You know what? You got me booed at the rumble, you know? So now I'm here to kick your ass. Yeah. Johnny JB, how do you think the MJF era in AEW will go? Yeah. Of all the eras that have happened in AEW, I think it'll just be another one of them. I don't think he's going to like.
01:36:36
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I don't think
01:36:54
Speaker
The other thing you got to look at, dude, regardless of what they say, the companies are still in competition. On one side, you got Roman Reigns. The other side, you got MJF as the two flag barriers for each company. In what scenario could MJF ever fucking compete with Roman Reigns? I don't know. I just think it's a totally different thing. What about you, boys? Chop in, boys.
01:37:18
Speaker
I don't know. I think this is off to a better start than the other ones. Everybody kind of knew Kenny was on his way out to get surgery and stuff like that. I know Mox has taken vacation, but I don't know, man. This one just feels different to me.
01:37:38
Speaker
MJF good different bad no no different good i just i feel like this is gonna be a really good time for a w just cuz like i said earlier they're gonna have to reduce new people to the title picture and i i feel like that's always good for a company you don't want to get stale or it's just the same five guys wrestling for the main title over and over so i feel exactly and
01:38:01
Speaker
Yeah, go ahead. Like you said, you're a workhorse guy, right? Work great. What did I say? Workhorse? Workhorse guy. Chime in boys. Hey, you're also a workhorse here on the Phelps Casa. Jordan is a workhorse, but you're also a work rate guy. But most people are there for entertainment and storytelling and drama.
01:38:22
Speaker
The cm punk drama was like too much drama teetered on like you know whoa whoa whoa like we don't want this kind of drama little bits good yeah, but the MJF brings that level of drama where you're gonna tune in every week just to see what he says just to see what's going on just to see what kind of
01:38:38
Speaker
you know, shenanigans, he can stir up, um, like you, I think, I think it is different. And I think he brings something interesting that I don't think the other champions really brought, you know, not that, not that he's better than them, but I just think he's just a totally, he's just a totally different bag. You know, I just think it's, um, I think it's going to be good. I think it's going to be good. I agree.
01:39:02
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And that wraps up our listener mail. All right. Thanks guys for all the listener mail. It's much appreciated. Always love the conversation that, that it sparks, uh, Sheena remind the listeners where they can find you guys on social media.
Community Engagement and Closing Thoughts
01:39:14
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01:39:29
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01:39:52
Speaker
you know, LOL doll, like, you know, that's exclusive to Target. We'll find it. Yeah, we'll find it. We got people in every Target. We got a bunch of hardcore figure collectors, which is great. And then we also have like a handful of actual retail employees, man. So like they're getting like firsthand access to some of this stuff. Yeah. We're going to remind you guys, use Code Chick Foley to save 10% at ringside collectibles on all your figure purchase. And now it's time for the main event, the moment you guys have been waiting for. I'm attempting to break my own record and get my fifth
01:40:21
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consecutive trivia question, right? Sheena groaned when she saw what questions she pulled out earlier tonight. So it's looking good for me, but you never know. So hit me with it, Sheena. At the 1994 Royal Rumble, the champ was... The mighty Yokozuna. I know, it's such a... Boom, baby, let's go. Five straight. I know. Five straight. Call me, I'm gonna be the new Goldberg on here. I know.
01:40:49
Speaker
If you pull anything like, you know, 90, 92 to 97. Yeah. It's like, I was going to say Seth is like, got that on lock. It's a wrap. Yeah. The mid nineties were definitely my peak of just like committing everything to memory. Cause it was, you know, that was when I was a kid. So I had like zero distractions aside wrestling and there's only five paper views a year. So it's easy to remember every single match. All right, Shane, hit us with some closing thoughts on this Thanksgiving spectacular chick Foley show.
01:41:13
Speaker
So I hope you all have a happy, healthy, safe Thanksgiving. Spend time with your loved ones. Get off your phones. Don't be distracted. Uh, it may feel, you know, like, Oh gosh, we got to go to grandma's again. But what I'm just saying, dude, sometimes it feels like a whore. I mean, we got to go to aunt Jill's house. Yeah. Everybody loves her. Yeah. We got to go to gluten-free and Jill's house and, uh, you know, eat her stank ass pie.
01:41:43
Speaker
Whoa! Whoa! What's going on at Aunt Jill's, dude? Yeah, I think we just had to get there. I can't, Thanksgiving's as you have growing up. Just turned into a fucking Brazzers video, dude. Listen, yes. He's carving at Jill, spread them. Time to eat her pie. Time to eat her Stank-Ass Pie, dude. Jeez. Okay. Aunt Jill's serving us some gluten-free Poon Tang Pie for Thanksgiving, dude. Let me put a bow on this.
01:42:12
Speaker
Just enjoy time with your family. Be present. Understand that maybe not everybody has the same interests, beliefs, all that is you. It doesn't matter. Just love one another, be kind to one another, and have a happy Thanksgiving.
01:42:46
Speaker
Bye!