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Childhood Toy Stories
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You are a sad, strange little man, and you have my pity. If you aren't turning into this week's episode of Lost in the Frame, I am your host, Tachi. Gentlemen, I have one question for you.
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What? What's your favorite toy? What's my favorite toy? Yeah. Define toy.
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You define toy. choose Choose any toy. Okay, question. Any toy at Favorite toy now or favorite toy from childhood? Both.
00:00:50
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Or either. got one If you can only think of one. I don't have any toys. You had the haunted one. That's not a favorite. Fuck that guy. He was haunted.
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My favorite toy from childhood was TT. This little stuffed teddy bear that now resides in an antiques cabinet at my parents' place. You talked about TT during our Exorcist episode, I think.
00:01:15
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Maybe. But yeah, TT is up. the he's he's He's locked in there. Teddy's somewhere, too. i don't know where Teddy is, though. There was TT and Teddy. Apparently, i like TT more. um One of my favorite toys that I had was i had a lot of Batman action figures.
00:01:31
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And I hold this against my brother to this day. And he gets so mad whenever I tell the story. So hi, Nathan. I'm telling the story on the podcast now. um I'm bringing this up at poker tomorrow. Nathan was a little shit. But one of my favorite Batman action figures, he stuck to a lamp or he like held it to a lamp and burned his face off.
00:01:54
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And I cried. And i like never let him live it down. And like that was like the biggest fight we ever had. He just burned it for no reason. And I was so sad. So that was my favorite toy.
00:02:06
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That's my answer. That was his Sid moment. This is getting brought up at poker tomorrow. So Nathan. heard burned Batman.
00:02:17
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He'll be like, oh my god. um amazing what is your face What is your favorite toy Tachi? I really liked my lightsabers, but I think I had a collection of little figurines that I kept in a little cardboard box, and it was a bunch of Digimon.
00:02:35
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i don't know if you guys watched that growing up. Oh, I remember Digimon. I remember Digimon. I wasn't a big Digimon kid, though. Yeah. I had a box of little Digimon figurines, and I've had little wars going on like every day.
00:02:47
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was fun. God, why is every... little boy just make everything go to war dude yeah everything i had was like war like i i remember i had a i also had like a mr freeze action figure and i would like whenever i would play with my toys i liked when the villain would win So I think that said something when I was a kid, but what I would do whenever it was Mr. Freeze and he would win, he would take my Batman and Robin and I would put them in um plastic cups filled with water and I'd put them in the freezer and then they would legit just be frozen. And that was like the whole, the whole bit that I would do. That explains a lot. My, my sister had, my, my sister and I would like cross pollinate our toys a lot. Um,
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But there were many a times where the Legos would go to war with her littlest pet shop.
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Many good soldiers died on the battlefield that day. Both sides. Man. Why did we stop playing with our toys? I never did. I like that. I literally buy Hot Wheels to this day.
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was like, you do have some Hot Wheels in your office. to this day. I have a ton. At H-E-B or Walmart or Target, every time I go to any of those, I will stop off in the Hot Wheels
Toy Story 5 Introduction and Upcoming Segments
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section.
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Well, if you couldn't guess, we're talking about Toy Story 5 today. Before we get into Toy Story 5, we'll do our rapid review and we'll do movie news. Um...
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I'll just ah come out and say it. I haven't watched anything since we watched Disclosure Day, I kind of don't have anything for a rapid review. We've been busy unpacking our home. You could just picked something that you did not talk about.
00:04:32
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I haven't wired it to Disclosure Day. ah let me in his face so long yeah Let me tell you about my last four watches. This month has been not a movie month for me. um My last activity on Letterboxd, my last four watched, Close Encounters of the Third Kind, Disclosure Day, Manhunter, and Backrooms.
00:04:51
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Talked about all those. ah Guys, I'm a retired cinephile. I'm sorry. When my goat washed. I'll be back soon I promise.
00:05:04
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I got my DVDs back. We've been unpacking the house we got. We got all of our stuff. My TV's here. My PlayStation's here. All of my DVDs are back on the shelf. It's starting to feel like a home.
Recent Movie Reviews and News
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Happy for you. Alex, do you have one? a Rapid review? Yeah. I have two. Opposite ends of the spectrum. ah One of them was 2025's The Ritual, an exorcism horror movie starring Al Pacino for some reason.
00:05:33
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ah And it's horrible. well Just awful. No redeeming qualities. um There's this one bit that's supposed to be really profound where...
00:05:47
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Someone's talking about St. Michael the ah the Archangel, and this priest who had like a brother that died at the beginning of the movie was like, whoa, my brother's name was Michael.
00:05:58
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And then he invokes the name Michael the Archangel to end the exorcism, and it was like, oh terrible, horrible. Dog water. um The good end of the spectrum, T-Money, I think you're going to talk about this one as well.
00:06:12
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Yep. The Furious. Oh, yeah. new con New Kung Fu movie. Came out this year. It's in theaters right now. ah Go see it. This movie absolutely rips.
00:06:24
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I wanted to join a fight club after watching this movie. It's so pro fighting. it The stunts are incredible. It's just, it rips. It's awesome.
00:06:38
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I... This was my first entry in my movie journal, actually. I was so excited to just like think about it longer after we got home from watching it. And I honestly, I i still find myself thinking about it.
00:06:54
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And it really feels like it advanced the like action slash martial arts movie genre as a whole. um It's just, it is so much fun.
00:07:07
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And I implore all of you to go watch it. Outside of that, I recently watched Tar. Finally way got that off my watch list. Oh, let's go. Yeah. and This one was interesting. It's a really long movie. It's like basically three hours. And at first, um and I'm sure this was a little intentional, but like the first like third or like first half of the movie, it feels so...
00:07:34
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I don't know, like pretentious. Yeah. Like very overly pretentious. And then as things progress and the character kind of devolves from, i don't know, being mentally stable,
00:07:49
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um it's just a really... really really interesting and it it started to pull me in which is nice uh there's one sequence in particular i really really loved and um yeah cate blanchett was really incredible in this but yeah there's there's like a whole 20 minute monologue that i felt was just like it opens the movie and it's just like can i don't know let's move on i get it You're great at memorizing and you're great at acting.
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let's Let's get the ball rolling. I get what you mean, but i like I love that that first opening of the movie does feel pretentious. like It's obviously the entire point. and yeah I don't know. like I remember being a slightly annoyed at first, too.
00:08:36
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And then as the movie went on, it just made more sense. And I was like, this movie rips. I was like yeah like i love when I'm actively watching a movie and I'm just like...
00:08:47
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amazed at what I'm seeing instead of like digesting it like after the fact like when I'm in the moment when you're like this is a moment like right now that's how i felt with Tar yeah Tar was really great had to round down to a four instead of round up to a four so it's ah it's on the better end of the sketch the spectrum for me so forify me if only Cate Blanchett won best actress If only. Can we see real quick what year was that? was who is she up against? It was Michelle Yao.
00:09:15
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Oh, for Everything Everywhere? Yeah. That movie did sweep that year. What is your guys' is um feelings on Everything Everywhere now in the big 2026 when you think about it? like Were we delusional? What year was that? 2021? think we were kind of delusional.
00:09:33
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A little bit of delusion. I don't know. I rewatched it recently. It's good. It held up for me. I think it's still a five. Okay. i haven't I haven't rewatched it. I was just curious. like I think about it and I'm like, i honestly, I really, really loved it when I watched it.
00:09:48
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But it I don't know. like I had a good time with it. i'm I'm not poo-pooing it. I liked the movie. But people were crowning it as like the greatest thing ever, and I was like, I don't think this is going to age that well.
00:10:05
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we did I think in 10 years, it'll be interesting to revisit it. It's very like Reddit humor. Yeah. We did get the Letterboxd review that some claim may have ruined online film discourse. ah It's the review that says, ah watch this and have fun with it before film Twitter tells you to hate it.
00:10:24
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And now that screenshot of that review is used basically for any movie that comes out um that I think... People will sometimes try to use to maybe like avoid criticism on a movie. i don't know.
00:10:37
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But that's what that gave us. So there is a legacy. Yeah, I'm seeing a lot of people use that for Disclosure Day. Hmm.
00:10:48
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Guys, I still love that movie, by the way. i don't know if you would need film Twitter feel certain about that. like this this entire this entire last week with Disclosure Day, like every conversation I've seen all online, I'm like, man.
00:11:03
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There's only a few of us out here. Every conversation I've had in person. Every conversation I've had online. Every conversation I've had with myself in my head.
00:11:16
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Every conversation I've had with the voices in my walls. They're all saying the same thing except for you. God gives his toughest battles to his strongest soldiers. Oh, actually, maybe God is aliens.
00:11:28
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Think about that. Computer, make this a mid-movie.
00:11:35
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All right. I think we should move on to our movie
Upcoming Movie Releases and Trailers
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news. Yep. Yeah. All right. So first off, the new Spider-Man Brain New Day trailer, have you guys watched it? I have not yet. You know, going to admit something.
00:11:48
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What? I did watch it, except I watched it. I watched the leaked version like a week ago. So I watched it with this giant property of Marvel Studios thing slapped over it.
00:12:00
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a i I saw enough. Like I understood what was happening. Do you feel better about it than whatever you guys talked about with the ah the Doomsday stuff that I did not listen to?
00:12:15
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I forgot we did that. Yeah. I mean, I'm more excited for it than I am Doomsday for sure. 100%. Yeah. There was one scene where I was like, all In a good way or a bad way?
00:12:28
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oh bad way a bad way. Okay. Yeah. i was like, oh, no. i feel really good about this movie. I also feel better about this than than Doomsday. honestly like i'm pretty hopeful for this movie um i'm excited that this has a different director and like a different looks like a different tone and visual style to it so if anything like i'm excited to just see something that looks a little bit different than who was it john watts the like his last three movies um So, I mean, I'm excited for it. We'll have an episode on it, too. So I'm looking forward to it for sure.
00:13:04
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Sure. It's real quick. It's got the fourth largest pre-sales for any movie. Is that ever? crazy. i assume it's ever. ye Yeah. so Very nice. I guess we'll have to get our tickets rather than later.
00:13:16
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Oh, true. Yeah. i I just looked and they're up on at least the Alamo app. Nice. Might have to ah to purchase some. This bit of news is more relevant to some of the, i guess, shonen or anime fans out there like myself.
00:13:34
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The Chainsaw Man Season 2 teaser trailer and the Jujutsu Kaisen Season 3 Part 2 teaser trailer. They both dropped, I think, yesterday or maybe today.
00:13:46
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They look beautiful and I cannot wait to watch some more.
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ah I have not seen Malik you're disappointing me every day I'm so sorry you will i i will watch Chainsaw Man one day one day i will get i I really want to talk about the Chainsaw Man movie because it's it's incredible I gave it five stars i don't know if you guys know yeah so Chainsaw Man there's season one and then the movie that's it right That's right. 12 episodes, 20, 25 minute episodes, and then the movie.
00:14:21
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Oh, that's it? Yep. Did Jujutsu Kaisen, did that just end part one? yeah Pretty recently, so part two' is going to take a bit. Oh, damn. Okay. All right. All right. Fine.
00:14:34
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um Next to news. Jim Carrey is in talks to return as the Grinch in a new Grinch movie. Ron Howard is set to come back and direct it. Tachi, your hands are up. um You're excited? I'm not.
00:14:47
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What are we going to do with this? I don't know, but... the the The Grinch Who Stole Christmas with Jim Carrey is one of my favorite movies of all time. It's in my top four Letterboxd.
00:14:59
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I will kill for this movie. I'll kill for this movie. I don't care. Wow. I mean, it's one of my favorite Christmas movies, but yeah, one of your favorite movie movies. It's so quotable, though. like I do look forward to watching it every single year.
00:15:15
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There was so much heart and soul put into that movie. I just i can't help but love it. ah but but Doesn't that make you worried about a sequel? I don't know. I'm just hearing about this for the first time.
00:15:27
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And wait, that's a Trump quote. You're telling now for the first time. You're telling me this now for the first time. that like I haven't had time to process this news. So maybe maybe I'll feel some some hesitancy, but.
00:15:45
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One of my favorite things regarding a potential like Grinch sequel was this Reddit post on... um I don't even know what like thread this was. But the prompt or the question was, what's the most retarded thing your dad ever did?
00:16:02
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And someone put a story about their dad... It says, wrote an entire Grinch 2 script, like a sequel to Jim Carrey's Grinch movie specifically. Took him like eight months, and it's all stolen jokes.
00:16:14
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Reads like a Unabomber manifesto. Every Christmas, he gets drunk and rants about how we never took it seriously, and that's why the project never went anywhere.
00:16:28
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I hope it's that. I hope this is that. As long as it's not Ken the Hatch. We are getting another Cat in the Hat. We are? saw a trailer for that before Toy Story. Is it Mike Myers?
00:16:41
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No, it's animated. i think it's Illumination. I think it's Bill Hader playing the titular Cat in the Hat. It is Bill Hader playing Gato del Capo?
00:16:56
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yeah No, I don't think that's Hat. Something. Sombrero? No. Racist. Italian. Capello. Un gato.
00:17:10
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Nello Capello. Nello Capello. Nello Capello. it's like... I need work on my grammar. Yeah. but Cool. All right, moving on.
00:17:24
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Curry Barker has disclosed an eight-figure deal to write, direct, and produce a new original horror film for
Industry News: Curry Barker's Deal
00:17:31
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Universal. Jason Blum and James Wan are attached as producers for Blumhouse and Atomic Monster.
00:17:38
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Obsession also has passed $300 million dollars in theaters. um I got in the wrong line of work. I need to be doing this. Yep.
00:17:49
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Yeah. Yeah. 10, 10 figure deal that I give that once and I'm set and I'm set. So when it says that he closed an eight figure deal, do you think that's what he gets?
00:18:01
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Or do you think that's like the budget of the movie? Cause I think the way it reads is like, that's what he is getting paid to do this. That's what it reads as well as that. Yeah. That's what he's getting.
00:18:15
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I wouldn't mind that. At the very least, that is $10 million. dollars you can If you had $10 million, dollars that's it. You can be done forever. That's it. like If you put that into just some sort of vehicle that accrues like a very steady, safe amount of return, like 3% to 6%, that's more than any of us are getting paid like double that.
00:18:44
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And that's your salary. And that's all you have to do for the rest of your life. And the thing is, make sure you pay your taxes on that. And what he can do is like, let's say this movie sucks. but he still banks the $10 million. dollars Someone else will let him make another movie. So he could just like, he could just experiment basically for the rest of his life with the movies he wants to make. And he's probably, and he will be okay. Like that's so crazy. session Obsession has bought him so much.
00:19:14
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Like it's bought him the world's longest leash.
00:19:20
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He can do anything. like You're right. He can literally do it. He could just make a porn. And it'd be like, well, Obsession did return a lot of money, so I guess we have to just do what he says.
00:19:33
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All we have to do is just make something generational. That's all. That's it. We can be there. Super easy. yeah it's Okay, I'm not going to say it's easy. No, it's not easy.
00:19:48
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It's like, I love, I love obsession. And I think Curry Barker is great. I love his skits. You know, the guy has been nothing but, but hits for me.
00:20:02
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I'm not going to pretend that obsession didn't do anything. That's like, so out there. i said it when we were, when we covered it, it did the fundamentals really well. That's what I think makes it so great is it does the fundamentals very, very well.
00:20:17
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It is not out of the realm of possibility for you or I to make an obsession because it's all about the fundamentals. It's keeping it simple. It's making something that scares you and, you know just just making sure it doesn't go off the rails.
00:20:36
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That's the formula. Now, i most people cannot put all of that to paper. That's easier said than done, but the formula is there. Mm-hmm. And also cast ah breakout actors.
00:20:50
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Well, I mean, I just cast myself because gorgeous. Oh, right. What?
00:20:56
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yeah it's um it's very inspirational seeing it especially like ah so i i see a lot of people talk about obsession in the way that you just said alex but they say it as a negative and i'm like that is not a negative this is no it's a great thing it's a great thing it's a very much a positive and is very much inspirational so we should get out there and try that goes for us and that goes for you the listener
00:21:23
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16 years ago today, Toy Story 3 was released in theaters. um This made me feel like Unk. Did not realize this was 16 years ago.
00:21:35
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That's insane. I was 15. You are Unk. God, you're so old. You're the Unkest of us all, Tachi. What are you saying? Stop. I'm not.
00:21:48
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Ugh. Yeah, I am. You're right. Yeah, I am right. All right, Alex, last thing? Yep. Our final bit of news today before we get into Toy Story 5 is that Woody Harrelson and Matthew McConaughey are going to play themselves in a series called Brothers. The series follows the two as their friendship is thrown into chaos when they discover that they might actually be brothers.
00:22:13
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Now, this is a real thing. Like, yeah not that it's a real show, because it is a real show. This is a real thing, which I think we may have talked about.
00:22:26
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ah We should probably write down everything we've talked about. but We have talked about this. if If you guys don't remember, um a while back, this was it in... Actually, no, this... this Yes, this was, it came out in 2023, it seems, that there is a chance that Matthew McConaughey and Woody Harrelson, who have been very good friends for forever, may actually be brothers. Because when Matthew McConaughey's mom and dad were getting their second divorce, ah mom went to West Texas and apparently met Woody Harrelson's dad.
00:23:10
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So they knew each other.
00:23:14
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weird yeah i think that i i think a dna test hasn't been done because um yeah i don't know keep do they just want to leave that a mystery yeah maybe just they just want to leave it that's kind of what i was thinking very easy to find out this answer maybe a bit more fun to not Yeah, and I think Matty McConaughey's dad, you know if you've read Greenlights, it's a wacky, like his family has a wacky and wild story, but like his dad has been around, and you know you he ah he had a really good relationship with him, so I think he'd probably do some sort of damage psychologically if it's like, this guy's not actually my dad.
00:24:04
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but Probably, i would say so. Anyway, the series might be horrible. I don't know. I will probably watch it. I'm a fan of the two. so What's it releasing on? Apple TV.
00:24:20
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Okay. In September. Oh, Apple TV's got some bangers. That actually makes me feel a little bit better that this could be good. Yeah. All right. Well, instead of Woody Harrelson, let's talk about Woody Harrelson.
00:24:35
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Redacted? I don't know what his last name is. Woody the Sheriff? I guess so. i don't know. Deputy? Woody Deputy?
00:24:46
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Or wouldn't Woody? No, Woody the Deputy. Woody the Deputy. I don't know. Let's get into Toy Story 5. Sure. ah Toy Story 5, directed by Andrew Stanton. Synopsis reads this. When Bonnie receives a lily pad tablet as a gift and becomes obsessed, Buzz, Woody, Jesse, and the rest of the gang's jobs become exponentially harder when they have to go head-to-head with the all new threat to play time.
00:25:10
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um This is starring Tom Hanks, Tim Allen, Joan Cusack, Greta Lee, and Conan O'Brien amongst others. We will do our letterbox love like loathe and then we will get into the movie. Tachi has our five star today. I have the three and Alex with the one.
00:25:26
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Today's five star comes in from Jane Austen's babe, bear emo teddy bear emoji, Kira McCabe. Long name. Good. Five stars, much needed horse girl representation.
00:25:41
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Yeah, I was not expecting ah this much horse girl content from this movie. I'm gonna be honest. Horse girls are eating good. What are they eating, grass?
00:25:53
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Today's three star comes from user Aiden. Three stars and a heart. um Weird. Is it just me or are they portraying tech as bad? I lock my kid in a room on his iPad. He loves it so much he started calling it Dada.
00:26:06
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Haha, so funny. It's not his dad. I'm his dad, but he never sees me because he's too busy playing Roblox Black Adam.
00:26:18
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I'm inspired.
00:26:20
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ah What do you mean you have to spend money on childcare?
00:26:26
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My review for our one star comes from Libby 14. This movie was ass and completely inappropriate. Its theme was meant to discourage kids from playing on electronics, but they could do that without making tablets seem evil.
00:26:43
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I don't know who made this BS piece of movie, but I will come for you if ever disrespect Leapfrog again or other effing device that is in the shape of my beautiful Leapfrog slash iPad.
00:26:56
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This account has one review, one movie logged, no profile picture, and it's this. They made a profile to to do this. It must be the the founder and CEO of Leapfrog.
00:27:10
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I was going to say, I think it might be Lillipad herself. That's insane. um Well, one star review. I will tell you who made this movie. This was Andrew Stanton, and he has directed WALL-E, Finding Nemo, Finding Dory, and John Carter. Hell yeah.
00:27:31
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Have you guys ever watched John Carter? Libby will come for them if they disrespect Leapfrog again, so be on the lookout, Andrew. They're coming for you, dude. um let's open up the conversation i guess just with our like relationship with toy story um and growing up i mean we're on the fifth movie toy story one came out when like 1999 95 nineteen think ninety nine and ninety five 95? I want to say yeah no life That's insane. This franchise is older than I am.
00:28:05
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This franchise is as old as I am. so this first The first Toy Story came out yeah a couple months, I think, before I was born. Um... I grew up with Toy Story.
00:28:17
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I absolutely love one through three. One is so funny. I was just watching some clips of just Woody crashing out, and he really does just crash out that entire movie against Buzz Lightyear. It's the funniest shit ever. like It just gets funnier with age.
00:28:33
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It is. Toy Story 2, I think, is like one of the best sequels that you could... write for a movie like this. I think it was very unexpected and it's got a lot of rewatch ability.
00:28:45
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Um, and Toy Story three is like a perfect ending to this franchise at the time. But what is your guys' relationship with Toy Story?
00:29:00
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Pretty much the same as yours since we're basically at the same age. Um, Yeah, always loved Toy Story. And obviously I love the the quote that I included in intro.
00:29:11
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It's probably my favorite quote from the whole franchise. You're a sad, strange little man. Strange little man. It's so good. It's so good.
00:29:25
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Toy Story 2 was one of my favorite movies as a kid. And it yeah still is one of my favorite movies. I think the second one is just God's gift to Earth.
00:29:37
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i I like the first one a lot too, but the second one for me was like on repeat all the time.
00:29:44
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Yeah. It's just so good. I will say, I think I've seen Toy Story 2 more than the first. It was just always good to just have on in the background.
00:29:56
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And I think one of my favorite scenes, and think maybe everybody's favorite scene, is the Woody restoration. The ASMR of him just getting getting to be brand new again is a beautifully animated scene. And so, so, so good. So good.
00:30:17
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um Pixar was cooking. They really were. Toy Story 3, to talk about that one for a little bit. I remember crying in the theater. And this, Toy Story 3 was such such a good ending for for this franchise.
00:30:37
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And whenever they announced Toy Story 4, I just, Toy Story 4 was, when did that one come out? 2019 yeah yeah it sounds
Toy Story 4 Reflection
00:30:51
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about right yeah twenty yeah i mean i think everyone was kind of on the same boat where we were like this is over yeah like why like what are we like what are we doing here and so toy story 4 came out and i was like not excited for it whatsoever um watched it in the theater
00:31:09
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I'm actually pretty glad that we have Toy Story 4. I don't know how you guys feel about it, but I really like Toy Story 4. What about you guys?
00:31:20
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Yeah, I like it. I i guess this is this slight spoiler, but I appreciate every installment of Toy Story thus far.
00:31:32
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All right. Why are we even bothering doing an episode then? I mean, come on. liked... i liked toy story 4 i feel like it's a movie that also didn't need to exist i haven't watched it since i saw it in theaters but like it's not a bad movie yeah like i i i enjoyed watching it i just was like okay okay cool yeah like this is the same ending we got the last time
00:32:02
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it's very It's very different. I like i do agree that like we didn't need Toy Story 4. But like after watching i was just like, okay, like I'm kind of glad that we got this. like it's We didn't need it, but it was a nice ending to to Woody's story. like Toy Story 3 was the ending of Andy and the toys as a whole.
00:32:22
Speaker
But Woody is obviously our central character. And so it was just it was more interesting it's more interesting to me to give Woody himself an ending. And I really appreciated that.
00:32:33
Speaker
um All that to loop around to Toy Story 5. This one for real this time. I was like, why are we getting this? What is what is the what is the point of this one?
00:32:45
Speaker
And do we need it? I guess we'll figure out the answer to that question on this podcast. so i guess listen I guess we will. um I don't know. What are you guys' excitement levels going into this?
00:32:58
Speaker
Pretty much what you said. Like, okay, like but I'll go see it. Sure. Yeah. What the hell? Yeah, basically the same. I guess also to see ah what arguments they make for...
00:33:11
Speaker
technology, its impact, all that sort of stuff, what themes they want to explore. I was really excited about that portion. I was excited about that bit. But like as a movie, as a whole overall, it was yeah I wasn't super excited going into this.
00:33:27
Speaker
Yeah. Makes sense. And then like I always have to give it like You always do have to remember, i' like, these are movies made for kids at the end of the day. so it's like, how critical can we really be? You should have told that to my showing.
00:33:43
Speaker
Why? 95% adults. Like, people our age. It's just filled with Zoomers and Millennials.
00:33:53
Speaker
Yeah, I guess you can get like a good mix of both because, like i mean like we said at the beginning, like this franchise is as old as we are Tachi, and so we grew up with this, so I think, of course, we're going to want to go see the newest iteration of it.
00:34:06
Speaker
Now, people our age do have kids, and you get to take your kids to see it, and I think that's that's what happens. Yeah. I want to talk about my theater experience real quick. So I saw this yesterday and the couple to my right, I can only assume they were in high school.
00:34:21
Speaker
We're just making out the entire time. It was very distracting. And I was very frustrated. Like I could clearly see it from the corner of my eye. Her head just turned and I could see his hand right here. And it was for the entire movie.
00:34:38
Speaker
I was so annoyed. And then to my left was an older couple. And the wife was sitting like on the furthest side of the aisle. And she had the notification where you get a text message. And for some reason, it's a flashbang of the flashlight. That's just like pulsating.
00:34:56
Speaker
One, I've never understood why anyone has that as a notification thing. Do you live in a cave? it's probably for de It's probably for deaf people. I don't think so. Because I've seen it. I don't know.
00:35:08
Speaker
Maybe it is. Maybe I'm ignorant. But I hate it. I think you're just ableist. If that's why, I'm sorry. Anyway, she had that notification. They can't disable that a theater, though. That's what I'm saying. Like, why is your phone out? You want them to disable it? You want them to disable it, Tachi?
00:35:27
Speaker
You're already disabled. You got We're cooked. We're cooked. Both of you, ableist. Anyway, it went off like four times, and and that was great.
00:35:40
Speaker
my My aisle was empty outside of a couple at the very end of it. But right behind them, ah there was a family, probably about like four or five people, um most of them being children, and they talked 95% of the entire movie.
00:35:55
Speaker
They just never shut the fuck up.
00:35:59
Speaker
That was interesting. It was just constant four-year-old babbling, yeah and they never said be quiet. Yeah. the The kids in my theater were actually really well behaved. I had no notes, no guffars,
00:36:15
Speaker
no nothing. I forgot to mention last week, actually. Here's here's a um a little side note. When I went and saw Trainspotting last week, I have found the worst theater goer yet.
00:36:30
Speaker
And so I wanted to give them their their just desserts this week. You know, in the Alamo, like now where it's like, PS, we appreciate, you know, the irony of telling you to report phone use on your phone.
00:36:44
Speaker
Yeah.
00:36:47
Speaker
That person go fall at that. They were like, Oh, I'm like, no way. Yeah. But they, so they, they weren't in the theater this time. Um,
00:37:06
Speaker
Everybody was really well behaved. It was it was great. Good. I wish I could. um I feel like i'm missing out on these horrible experiences. Because mine my worst ones are just like some guys either like muttering to himself or um eating loudly next to me.
00:37:24
Speaker
Eating loudly next to me. Or guffawing. And it's obnoxious.
00:37:31
Speaker
Hmm.
00:37:34
Speaker
Oh, real quick before I forget. I'm going to go way back for a second. But let's talk about The Furious for a second and the theater experience. The guy next to me, ah older fella. Almost.
00:37:46
Speaker
Guy on my right. He had to have been in like his 50s or 60s. There's one moment in the movie that he finally reacted. And it was a it was like a collective moment. There's there's one very distinct ah don't know, second of the movie where everyone's like, oh, and he did that and it was great.
00:38:06
Speaker
And also this movie had Alex knees to chest in his chair. That's how crazy the action was. Like knees to chest entirely. It was awesome.
00:38:18
Speaker
Now i'm back to Toy Story. When I was writing my Letterboxd review for that one, I was laying down, kicking my feet in the air like this. You guys have convinced me to watch it. i need him I need to watch it this weekend and so I can see it in the theater like full of people, too.
00:38:34
Speaker
I think yeah it's a communal experience, it sounds like. For sure. um Okay, so Toy Story 5.
Toy Story 5's Technological Message
00:38:41
Speaker
Lilypad is kind of the main threat here with tech kind of coming into the world, so...
00:38:47
Speaker
Coming into this, I think it was a good message. And that's the main thing that I left with was I mainly appreciate this movie for kids and maybe helping them and parents get the message across that like hey, you can't have technology like in your household, but don't forget that imagination and play is still very much a thing needed for like development and your kids to make friends. And so I think leaving this movie, like I'm left with a positive feeling, mainly for that demographic.
00:39:25
Speaker
um So like i don't know. I feel like I... can't really like analyze or criticize the movie that much because it's just kind of all right and i don't know that's that kind of just how I feel overall about the movie ah ah being that toy story is what it is do you think that they felt like they had like a moral imperative to tell the story And to yeah to tell the the send this message.
00:39:56
Speaker
Yeah. I could see... well well what i The dynamic I find really funny is, right, they're making this movie, and then Disney it like is just like a content slot machine, right? So did you see the ad for, was it Hexed?
00:40:11
Speaker
Yeah, was terrible. Yeah, it looks horrible. yeah But it's like filmed, and someone on Twitter pointed this out, a keen-eyed chap on Twitter pointed pointed this out that the movie is like everything in it is centered so it looks like you can watch it while scrolling reels so it's like oh my god like ew you know disney was in talks about doing like ai content on disney plus um they just seem to be like mass producing like technology and toys for kids to use with just you know
00:40:47
Speaker
no imagination in it, just churning them out. And then, so for Pixar to go and make this movie, I'm like, probably some, uh, some, uh, stubborn fellows in Pixar still who, uh, you know, have a bone to pick with who, who bought them out.
00:41:05
Speaker
Um, and so i did kind of like that. I'm like, ah, they're, they're kind of cracking a joke on the the boss man over here. yeah But yeah, the movie does just... like It is what it is. like it's it It isn't deep. It isn't... There's nothing to really analyze. It just is.
00:41:24
Speaker
Yeah. It might be a little too forgiving of tech in some moments. Like... It just... like Oh, actually, like Lily's one of us. Like, no. Don't that. She's not. no she She's not. Don't do that.
00:41:43
Speaker
Um... I did have a leapfrog as a kid growing up, ah but it was different than the ones that are floating around today. And so I feel better about myself because my leapfrog was you had a book and you put it on the the tablet thing. its this big, like, oh plastic thing you put in, like, a cartridge. Yeah. And then, like, it was really cool because you could flip the pages when you tapped things on them.
00:42:11
Speaker
ah Like, it would it would say things. So if there was, have like a book about like animals in Africa and it was like, you flip the page and it'd be like, oh, like you tap like an elephant, it makes like an elephant noise and be like, the elephant is the largest land animal in Africa, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah. blah blah blah But now I think a leapfrog is literally just an iPad.
00:42:31
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, what what you're describing is something... Was the period of tech where it was useful a bit more useful and a bit more um focused?
00:42:43
Speaker
like And we have a group of toys in this movie that kind of serve that exact purpose. ah The toilet paper played by Conan O'Brien, the cell phone, and then the camera. It's like a one-purpose tech machine that was useful and can help you learn.
00:42:58
Speaker
Whereas, yeah, like you're saying now, these lily pads are basically just iPads. You have access to social media, games, anything under the sun this they like they say in the movie they're like the the tech is for everything now so it's like there is a good there was a time where the tech that was coming out was a very very good balance of the old and the new and now we're kind of in the future and glued to our iPads This movie turned into Jesse's story, which I didn't expect um to kind of get her closure
Jessy's Story in Toy Story 5
00:43:36
Speaker
now. So with Toy Story 4, we kind of got Woody's closure.
00:43:40
Speaker
Side note real quick about Buzz Lightyear. Did you guys ever watch the movie Lightyear? No. It was awful. It was awful. It's like terrible. I've said it once.
00:43:53
Speaker
I'll say it as many times as I want, I guess. But... They chose the worst possible story to tell for Buzz Lightyear. Yeah. I can't imagine a worse story and a worse script.
00:44:06
Speaker
Yeah. 100%. It was unbelievable. It's insane. I like you're going to watch it now. and Like, yeah it's mind-blowing. I don't know. Yeah, workersrk have but i i wasn't so bad but I feel so bad because I love Buzz Lightyear as a character, and I feel like he's just gotten the short end of the stick for this. And so, moving back to, like, Jessie, I really like Jessie as a character, and was interesting that we got to have like closure for her story.
00:44:34
Speaker
um I didn't really feel much with with her... ah emotional catharsis towards the end of it. It kind of just felt shoehorned in, into this tech story that they, that they wanted to tell.
00:44:49
Speaker
Well, we already went through it. Yeah. Like we went through this same feeling she had and it was Toy Story 2 and it was done way better because she was like, no, we need to be in a museum. Like I've given up hope.
00:45:03
Speaker
So it's like, we, we've already gone through like Jesse's emotional struggle And her feelings around Emily and, you know, being abandoned. And it's like, okay, now it's happening again. Like, you know, when you have your first heartbreak, right?
00:45:21
Speaker
You get dumped for the first time. It feels like the worst thing in the world. But then after like four or five times, you're just like, ah.
00:45:33
Speaker
I guess I'll reactivate hinge. Like Jesse's like, can't do it. I can't do it. Like you've, I've been given up twice already. It's like, shouldn't that make it easier? Like, shouldn't you just be like, well, Bonnie moved on. Like, here we go.
00:45:51
Speaker
You know, so it felt a little rehashed. I mean, i like Jessie a lot, so I'm not like opposed to exploring her story a little bit more. But on the topic of Buzz and getting the short end of the stick, I feel like these last two movies, they have made his character...
00:46:09
Speaker
So stupid. So dumb. Like he, he, he's dumb and he doesn't like do anything. Yeah. Which is such a far cry from the second one. And I use the segment specifically because it's my favorite. And I also think it's the best example of Buzz being the man.
00:46:27
Speaker
Yep. Like Buzz Lightyear is like, I'm going to go rescue Woody. And then all the other toys come along. And, but Buzz is the one who most of the time is just figuring it all out.
00:46:39
Speaker
So what happened to that buzz? Like, why is he arguing with Woody? Because he's got like a crush. Like, oh, like I can't function. i know i miss cool buzz.
00:46:52
Speaker
I think they tried to solve that problem by... just you know i think there's a lot of shoehorning in this movie. ah the The 30 extra buzzes being that example. I think that was their attempt of making Buzz cool again.
00:47:07
Speaker
um Did that work for you guys? like Him being a half-drone thing? i don't know. so ah Surprisingly, i really I kind of would want more of the group of buzzes.
00:47:20
Speaker
like And it kind of... um I don't know because I agree that I do think that they've basically nerfed Buzz these last couple movies and made him stupid as hell. But m there's there's like there's a side story of, or there's another movie where it's just like a group of Buzz's and where it's like his main story that I can see being a lot more enjoyable and a lot more fun that could potentially also give the character of Buzz Lightyear more depth than what we've seen with him. Yeah.
00:47:51
Speaker
They can turn into drones if they want. I'm glad that they did. That was kind of cool. Yeah. ah for For those who who haven't seen it yet and and don't plan on watching it anytime soon, the movie opens with this shipping container full of Buzz Lightyear's washing up on this desert island.
00:48:10
Speaker
And so there's... 30 to 50 Buzz Light years, feral Buzz Light years trying to get back to Star Command. And that's the like side plot of the movie. And so for it opens and you're like, what is happening?
00:48:28
Speaker
like Where is this going? It yeah jumps around and it slowly... i actually think it does like a decent job of... closing the ranks a little bit and tying them together.
00:48:40
Speaker
it was a bit convenient when they sprouted drone wings and flew away. And also, where did they go? the rest of them? Where did go? So, you know, after they they are drones and they like, you know kind of conveniently help save the day, they just fly away and leave. Where did they go?
00:49:03
Speaker
they like Because like Jesse was supposed to be Star Command, right? Which is sweet. i guess so. Yeah. yeah yeah
00:49:13
Speaker
So there's just an army of 30 to 50 Buzz Light years. I think maybe they went into the hands of children who needed them. They realized their purpose.
00:49:24
Speaker
Star Command gave them their mission. And they spread out to bring joy to those who need it.
00:49:35
Speaker
I think they went to go overthrow governments in the Middle East. o
00:49:41
Speaker
um big so Big security risk with these sentient Buzz Lightyear drones. I was imagining a world of them flying over into like government airspace and chaos ensuing because they cannot be flying over Area 51 or some shit like that.
00:50:01
Speaker
on On the topic of technology, there was a thought I had in the theater when the buzzes were at the shipping container, like the the docks. There is CCTV for days at those like container ports. Yeah. so there you know there is some guy in the video room, like, but hand on his head watching these Buzz Lightyear's hijack a crane.
00:50:27
Speaker
Like, how has no one just noticed like all these toys that that are alive at this point? It happens a lot, and that's ah it's really easy to suspend your disbelief when when it comes to these movies, like...
00:50:40
Speaker
The fact that the janitor or one of the workers comes by he sees him on the floor, he's like, I'm not picking that up. And he doesn't question it at all. I'm just like, sure, guy. Move on. but Speaking of suspending disbelief, how do you guys feel about the retcon of like, I guess the timeline of things? They they jump, what, like nine years from the the start of Jesse's story and then to now?
00:51:06
Speaker
But now wasn't now before. like they They had to make a big a big jump in time in terms of like having these these these tablets.
00:51:19
Speaker
You know what mean? like like Like in the time from Toy Story 1 to when they meet Bonnie, yeah the Lilypad technology does not exist.
00:51:33
Speaker
Yes.
00:51:35
Speaker
So now it does exist in Toy Story 5. when it did not in Toy Story 3, which is the like the exact same time. Maybe a year later. get what you mean. like It's okay. I get what you mean. so like Between Toy Story 3 and Toy Story 5, realistically, was like yeah maybe a twenty years that maybe a couple years have passed in the universe, but technology-wise, they've jumped like 20.
00:52:01
Speaker
Exactly. well like okay Okay. Bonnie was in preschool in Toy Story 3,
00:52:08
Speaker
And then they said Blaze was nine in Toy Story 5. But she seems younger than Blaze. I'm going to guess nine to ten. No, I feel like Bonnie's like seven.
00:52:19
Speaker
Yeah. That's what was going to say. Six or seven. Oh, shit. Yeah.
00:52:27
Speaker
yeah i i think bonnie's like seven for sure so if she's in preschool then three years have passed so your question does still stand ah how quick is the toy store universe able to advance their technology at this rate because everyone on the street has tablets yeah yeah they're zooming and you know all that maybe it's like the wii where just there was no we and in like one Christmas everybody had a wee.
00:53:00
Speaker
It's true. don't know. It's not that important. I'm I'm just being nitpicky but no, that's nu it's a great question and we need to we need to get to the nitty gritty of it all.
00:53:13
Speaker
The Toy Story runtimes are typically i don't know an hour to hour 45. ah But I think this movie was a little over hour and a half. I think it really would have benefited like another 10 to 15 minutes by including like a bullseye C or D plot.
00:53:36
Speaker
Because he's such a core part of Jesse's identity of being like a cowgirl. Yeah. Yeah. Because he felt kind of sidelined. I was about to say yeah, Bullseye also kind of sidelined. Like, he's very integral to Jesse as a character in Toy Story 2.
00:53:53
Speaker
um I mean, you can kind of say that with the rest of the gang with the with these last two movies. Like, the appeal of, I think especially 2, the... ah is the gang as a whole.
00:54:06
Speaker
Like, yes, Woody and Buzz are kind of like our main characters, but like Mr. Potato Head, don't know all the names, Slinky, of Ham, is it what's his name, Ham?
00:54:18
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Like they've they've all kind of been sidelined for these last two movies, which is a shame. And Rex, like because I, and I'm sure we all do, like love all of these characters. And so, yeah, kind of sucks to just see them all kind of just get one line each. And that's all that's all there is to it.
00:54:39
Speaker
Agreed. There's just so many toys. There's a lot. There are a lot of toys I don't even remember. That we're getting a lot of lines, but. Um, yeah, I don't know. Maybe, maybe they felt like their story was just wrapped up and they want to focus on these newer people.
00:54:55
Speaker
I guess so.
00:54:58
Speaker
Whatever. It's fine.
00:55:01
Speaker
But yeah, I really did want to see more from from Bullseye. Seeing as how this is a Jesse dominant story. um I loved the animation whenever the kids are playing with the toys.
Animation Style in Toy Story 5
00:55:13
Speaker
It goes into this like 3D. Yeah, these like 3D like hand drawn hybrids was like insanely beautiful animation. I would love to see a movie in that particular in that style. I think that would be so cool.
00:55:28
Speaker
I really liked it too, especially because it seems like they can't really improve upon what they they put together in Toy Story 4 in terms of like animation quality. Yeah, it's it's hard to improve on that. So this was a really great way of, I guess, making the art interesting.
00:55:45
Speaker
And I feel like maybe for animation as a whole, i hope that's where we start going back to because like we've got the realism thing down to a T. Like, yeah, we can see all the furs on Woody's shirt and we can see all the blades of grass. it's like we There's no really point of going beyond that or now we just have to start getting interesting. and So I really appreciated that.
00:56:07
Speaker
um That being said, I think Toy Story 4 is a much... a much more beautifully shot movie from an animation standpoint, because that was like the peak of the quote unquote realism, but they did a lot of interesting things with the quote unquote camera.
00:56:27
Speaker
Like, Toy Story 4 had a number of split diopter shots. You're not really filming this. You're not really putting something on the camera to get a split diopter shot. You're animating that. They had just so many awesome like camera effects that they animated that I think Toy Story 4 is like the most well-animated movie out of the franchise.
00:56:48
Speaker
So 5 felt like a step back, but the hand-drawn 3D hybrids I thought were were beautiful. Agreed. What didn't work you guys?
00:57:01
Speaker
I think the sex scene between Buzz and Woody was a little too woke.
00:57:07
Speaker
Uh-huh.
00:57:11
Speaker
I mean... We didn't need it. But it was about time, right?
00:57:19
Speaker
Like, that's what they've been building to.
00:57:23
Speaker
Because I was disappointed with it. Could have had more. It's what we needed but didn't deserve. yeah I think there were there were a lot of themes that they were trying to straddle.
00:57:36
Speaker
There was a lot going on with Jesse, with Buzz, with Lilypad, with Woody, with Bonnie. um There was a lot of...
00:57:49
Speaker
Maybe too many cooks in the kitchen. Yeah. Do you think they should have, I don't know, like shrank the scope a little bit? I mean, all of my issues truly do boil down to, I do not think we needed this movie.
00:58:07
Speaker
Everything felt complete. Everything felt complete with three. They came back with four. I was happy with four. This one, we did not need this one.
00:58:19
Speaker
It was... um but
00:58:23
Speaker
But it exists. So since it does exist, I guess like, I don't know, how do you how do you critique it beyond just you shouldn't exist?
00:58:36
Speaker
I mean, and don't want to say you shouldn't exist. I'm just saying we didn't need it right Like I said at the beginning um of the review, I'm happy for this movie, particularly for kids and the message that it'll bring it'll bring them.
00:58:53
Speaker
um I'm not going to lose sleep over this movie. that's That's the gist of it all. How about this? Let's frame it this way. Let's say and...
00:59:05
Speaker
riku and Margo and oh my God, I'm blanking on my animal names. Not not. No.
00:59:16
Speaker
Is that it? Yeah. Uh huh. Let's say they all have. What about Looney Tunes? Oh my God, Luna. I'm so sorry. OK, so you have you have four animal children.
00:59:28
Speaker
Yes. And they each have a favorite toy. hmm. Individually. now let's say they all collectively stop playing with their own favorite toy they stop playing with each other they start isolating themselves into like four corners of your home and it started really suddenly you don't know what to do there's a a movie that's made for like i don't know helping your pets feel better And like start playing with each other again. Like, and like, let's just put your, let's just put your animals into the shoes of the children.
01:00:12
Speaker
Does that make you feel any different in how you want to approach the movie? Think about the movie. Yeah. I mean, I can, I can imagine myself like we don't even have to do it. Like with the animals, like I can imagine myself having a kid.
01:00:25
Speaker
And taking them to watch this and then leaving feeling like positive and hopeful with a good message. 100%. Agreed. Yeah. Take your kids to go watch this movie. I'm a 31 year old man with no children watching Toy Story 5 with no human children watching Toy Story 5.
01:00:44
Speaker
So I'm just, I'm watching it because i grew up with this franchise. That's basically it. So this is This is a good movie for parents with kids.
The Necessity of Toy Story 5
01:00:55
Speaker
100%. One part I wanted to talk about was the, and it's not funny, don't laugh, was was Bonnie getting cooked in the chat? but they were They were cooking her ass. I was like, damn, they're getting You can never be too young for cyberbullying. No. I had to learn that real quick in middle school.
01:01:21
Speaker
Oh, no.
01:01:26
Speaker
It's fine. It's just Halo. I learned to handle it. ah x Xbox Live parties were where they turned boys into men. They really did. Speaking of, we're getting Black Ops 2 on PlayStation 5 next month. So we're back.
01:01:42
Speaker
We will be yelling at each other.
01:01:47
Speaker
they get cooked by 10-year-olds. Yeah. What else, guys? It was crazy how device and tech were said like slurs in this movie. She's tech.
01:02:01
Speaker
God, these devices. Surprised they didn't drop a clanker. They almost did. Jesse quite literally does a hate crime against toilet paper and pushes him.
01:02:15
Speaker
You goddamn device and shoves him in the face. A bit brutal. also dances on top of him, basically. That's kind of problematic. Oh, wait. Yeah, the ah the game that he played, ah she's like, say I don't want to play that. She's like, trust me, they all do. And he kind of like rubs himself. Yeah, I hated that. And then the next scene was her like jumping up on him and he was like getting pleasure out of it.
01:02:41
Speaker
I was like,
01:02:45
Speaker
That scene, like, I want to talk about Smarty Pants, who was voiced by Conan O'Brien real quick. I've been a lifelong fan of Conan O'Brien. And they were, ah I'd say, like, half the times on screen.
01:02:58
Speaker
ah He does a really good job of voicing the character, or giving life to this character. But I feel like the other half of the time, they kind of wrote him into a corner where he had to be like a, i don't know, like a,
01:03:13
Speaker
Like he was dropping like these meek little quirky one-liners. But I don't think that that's why you hire Conan O'Brien. You hire Conan O'Brien to be this unhinged psychopath and make him get sweaty in the studio.
01:03:30
Speaker
But I don't think he had to get very sweaty. I feel like that that he had... that part of a performance in the introduction of smarty pants.
01:03:41
Speaker
I thought that was really funny, but he eventually does just become like, I think like all of these characters, they eventually just become just like the stereotype of, of who they are. We just saw it very quick with Smarty Pants. We saw him just like get nerfed into what he is.
01:03:57
Speaker
We've just seen Buzz Lightyear just take that route just over four movies. It just happened with Smarty Pants over 45, 50 minutes. um I didn't know that this was that he was voiced by Conan O'Brien until the play sequence of like the Mission Impossible and he had the red hair. And I was like, holy shit, is that Conan O'Brien? That's what that's what gave it away for me.
01:04:18
Speaker
Yeah, same. Me too. And then and and I can not hear his voice. Yeah, and then I was like, okay, yeah, that's Conan. That's so funny that it hit at the same time for us.
01:04:32
Speaker
I didn't realize until we started recording today. That's awesome. I'm happy for you. um the big ah The big emotional...
01:04:46
Speaker
payoff of this movie i think is the realization that jesse has in her owner naming her daughter after her did that hit you guys on an emotional level at all or or what were you feeling during that scene
01:05:02
Speaker
feel like i had to go pee it was that part in the like that late in the movie Yeah, I think I felt kind of similarly to Alex where the emotional beats weren't really hitting for me, unfortunately. i think there were a lot of positive takeaways from this movie, a lot of things they did right.
01:05:20
Speaker
But it's just like it wasn't excellent. And that's what we should expect from toy Story. um it was It was really good, in my opinion, but not excellent. So it it just didn't go...
01:05:35
Speaker
I guess deep enough in all the different ways that they were trying to go. Yeah. And I think someone could like hear that and be like, oh, that's silly. You shouldn't expect that from a kid's movie.
01:05:46
Speaker
But we look at the other Toy Story movies, we get exactly that. you get You get great stories. You get like honestly fleshed out characters. And I don't think it's crazy to want better for these movies, even though they are made for children. Like these movies can age with you. There's a reason why we're all late 20s, early 30s talking about Toy Story 2 because it's a good fucking movie.
01:06:09
Speaker
h green I might go rewatch it today. Yeah. i I really do want to rewatch like this entire series. It's a lot of fun. I really enjoy it.
01:06:21
Speaker
Did you guys rewatch Toy Story 4 in preparation for this? No, i wanted I wanted to. Did you? i i did. Yeah, i did I watched it last night or yesterday. but um Yeah, it was good. i don't know which I prefer, Wow.
01:06:38
Speaker
wow I think they both deserve the right to exist. And they had good messages. Yeah.
01:06:49
Speaker
yeah But the original trilogy is just chef's kiss. um I know these toys can talk and they're sentient. They're alive. And that just breaks all realism.
01:07:01
Speaker
Why does Woody have a beer belly? How is that possible? Stuffalo Bill. That was a good joke. He said, pretty what?
01:07:12
Speaker
ah How does he have a beer belly? horses I don't know. He's been fucking with me.
01:07:24
Speaker
Why was he bald? That one makes more sense. Like, you lose the color. Someone said, oh, he needs a brown Sharpie. In that one spot, why was he bald? I don't know.
01:07:38
Speaker
What on earth was Bo Peep doing to him? Give him atomic noogies?
01:07:44
Speaker
Probably. I'm kind of skimming through my my journal entry. think I hit all in the notes there. One of the funnier parts for me was um the army of buzzes in the farmhouse is they're like gonna murder Woody and i mean our buzz lightyear kind of has to come to the front and and take charge I thought that was a really funny scene and like that's like more of the buzz lightyear that I would want to see but the he has a line he's like also Zerg
01:08:16
Speaker
is our dad and they're just oh all the moment he's hoped for how that he could break the news while they're all just in turmoil about it real quick that was the funniest part bit of the movie for me yeah that was good i think your pitch for a buzz movie is i think there's a lot of promise behind that we did get some closure i guess a little bit of his arc with his relationship with Jesse.
01:08:45
Speaker
um He's, he's obviously said goodbye to Woody enough times. um so so maybe there's like one more, one more piece of his character that has to do with star command or like his, his inherent mission um that may exist outside of Jesse. I don't could be a I, think it's a safe bet.
01:09:11
Speaker
to say that we will get a Toy Story 6 centered around Buzz with the failure that Lightyear was. um i truly do think we'll get a Toy Story 6 centered around Buzz. Watch this space for this early prediction.
01:09:26
Speaker
I actually kind of want it. Because yeah it's already too late for us to say like, oh, it's not all these. Yeah, it's too late for that. yeah So we're past that point.
01:09:38
Speaker
If we're if we're going to do this thing where we're closing these loops on these characters and and really fleshing out their their arcs. Why not give justice to Buzz?
01:09:50
Speaker
you know you know what so much there sure i'm in on yeah maybe it's like he and the other buzzes have some sort of light year organization they go save kids or other toys or i don't know yeah i'm 100 in did you guys ever watch the animated um buzz light your star command show on disney Was that when they were like animals? it No, no, no. It's 2D animation. I think there are animals involved with it.
01:10:22
Speaker
um That was one of my favorite shows growing up. Wait, am I confusing that with Mighty Ducks? Let me... I'm thinking of Mighty No, Mighty Ducks, they played hockey.
01:10:33
Speaker
What am I thinking of? Are you thinking of um the Daffy Duck in Space show? like No, there was something and there had to have been... like I think you might be thinking of Buzz Lightyear, but they weren't animals. They're just aliens. So it was Buzz, and then his group was um like a big red guy, a fine-ass blue girl, and then a little robot guy. but What?
01:11:03
Speaker
Oh, yeah. This looks familiar. Yeah. I love the show. who ah Closing thoughts on Toy Story? You guys want to rate it?
01:11:12
Speaker
I think I'm ready to rate. Yeah. Okay. I'll give this a three.
01:11:20
Speaker
Slow. What'd you give four? Four. Four, four, five, a three. Four, or four, or five, a three. Three, a five. Two, will five, one, a five.
01:11:31
Speaker
You lost me there, but that's okay. Makes perfect sense. Think about it. Alex, are you ready? think I'm going to give this a 3.5. And I gave four 3.5. Hmm, wow, okay.
01:11:47
Speaker
I'm going to give this a four out of five. Wow. also gave Toy Story 4 a four out of five. Wow. Okay, can we rank them? What are our individual ranks of the Toy Story franchise?
01:12:00
Speaker
Two, one, three, Five, four. What? You're going to put five of above four? Yeah.
01:12:13
Speaker
Interesting. Why? if phil it it felt like that they made it because there was a story to tell instead of making it to tell a story.
01:12:24
Speaker
m I like that. I kind of feel like that's a... That kind of hurts it for me, though. Like, 4 feels more interesting because, yes, these have thematic messages, especially geared towards children, which is what Toy Story 5 is.
01:12:45
Speaker
But I think that's what makes 4 interesting is that while there are good messages to take away, it was at its core, like, a story story, a character-driven story about Woody. Yeah.
01:12:57
Speaker
So I can appreciate it from like a movie standpoint just a bit more. I also like that.
01:13:08
Speaker
I'm easily swayed. Tachi, your ranking? I think I think I have to go one two, three, four, five.
01:13:19
Speaker
That's insane. Actually, that's a perfect ranking. don't I can't like I think how you guys feel about two is how i feel about one.
01:13:30
Speaker
One just lives rent free in my head.
01:13:34
Speaker
i think I'll go. Nearly similar to Alex's, but obviously flipped. So um i would go two, one, three, four, five.
01:13:46
Speaker
Interesting. yeah Maybe we should put a put a poll and see who gets the most votes. I'm down. Yeah, we'll see. Yeah, let us know. what we'll We'll see what the listeners, are their own personal rankings of Toy Story franchises.
01:14:00
Speaker
Well, here's to Toy Story 6, possibly. Yeah. Hopefully they get us in the cast.
01:14:10
Speaker
ah We'll be back next week with a look back on 2026 thus far. ah I feel like we all probably have some catching up to do. going to try to watch at least five movies between now and recording. Movie day. That came out this year that we haven't seen yet. Just have like a movie day.
01:14:27
Speaker
I do need to do that. Yeah. So we're going to do that and we will see you in the next episode for our 2026 look back. Thank you for listening. We'll see you next time. Bye.