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S1 E44 Jenny Lea - Empath, Psychic, Medium and Co-host of The Witching Hours Podcast
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In this week’s episode I had the pleasure to speak with Empath, Psychic, Medium and Co-host of The Witching Hours Podcast, Jenny Lea.
Jenny started off talking about feeling energy on a school field trip and learning how to become a medium.
I was then told by Jenny that you must trust what you see, hear and feel.
She discussed communication with her spirit guides, switching her abilities on and off, and spoiling Christmas.
We then spoke about connecting with non-human entities, and realising that angels are real.
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Transcript
Intro
Introduction to Jenny Lee
00:00:12
Lee Hatfield
Hello everybody and welcome to the latest episode of SIPA Paranormal Chronicles. Today i am more than delighted to have Jenny Lee with me. Jenny is a empath, a psychic, a medium and channel and she's also the co-host of the Witching Hours podcast.
00:00:32
Lee Hatfield
Jenny, welcome to the show my love.
00:00:35
Medium Jenny Lea
Thank you so much for having me on.
00:00:37
Lee Hatfield
yeah And you are are another recommendation from a friend of mine called Joe. So we've been talking about that offline. So Joe, hi, and thank you.
00:00:46
Medium Jenny Lea
Yes, thank you, Joe. Mm-hmm.
00:00:49
Lee Hatfield
So what i kind of do with all my guests, I always start at the very beginning. So if you can just give us a little bit of insight about yourself and how you got into the mediumship paranormal world, please.
00:01:05
Medium Jenny Lea
Luckily for me, I was born into a very strange family where the paranormal, supernatural, unexplained, and woo-woo were were're pretty normal every day. and I didn't know that that that was not the normal for other people.
00:01:21
Medium Jenny Lea
So as I'm growing up, we are always talking about strange things, past lives, aliens, ghosts, you name it. It's just part of my everyday life.
00:01:33
Medium Jenny Lea
But then moving through time, I didn't really understand that the things that had been happening to me over my life were that it had a title to it and that it meant that I was a medium until about 2018.
00:01:50
Lee Hatfield
Okay, that was nice, short and sweet, which I like because it's sometimes it's sort like, a okay, carry on.
00:01:58
Medium Jenny Lea
yeah
00:01:59
Lee Hatfield
So when would you say that you first had your first encounter, shall we say?
Childhood Encounters and Mediumship
00:02:10
Medium Jenny Lea
There's a lot of different experiences throughout my childhood and early adult life. And to be honest, it's like, it's one of those things where when they happen, it's really unusual.
00:02:22
Medium Jenny Lea
And then you kind of file it away and you don't think about it again. So as I've been becoming more and more immersed in this world, those memories start coming back more and more.
00:02:28
Lee Hatfield
Thank you.
00:02:36
Medium Jenny Lea
but I feel like I always had I always have the ability to feel energies unexpectedly that maybe other people weren't feeling. For example, we went on a field trip one year when I was probably in middle school. So i was maybe like 11 or 12.
00:02:53
Medium Jenny Lea
And we went to this historic mansion and we're getting a tour from the tour guide lady. And she walks us into this room and I immediately feel a shift in the energy. And I know that something is different about this space.
00:03:08
Medium Jenny Lea
And then the tour guide starts telling us about how there's a ghost in this room and she stands in, know, it's one of those lady in white ones, like every old mansion has, right?
00:03:18
Medium Jenny Lea
And she stands in the window and people see her from the street.
00:03:18
Lee Hatfield
yeah
00:03:23
Medium Jenny Lea
And it was like, wow, i could feel it. I could feel it. I knew that there was something else there. So that was one of those kind of aha moments, but just a piece of the puzzle that I didn't put together until later, you know?
00:03:39
Lee Hatfield
Yeah. So when would you say you became comfortable with this is who I am?
00:03:49
Medium Jenny Lea
In some ways, I think I'm still processing that, Lee.
00:03:55
Medium Jenny Lea
But in 2018, I had the the realization that there was, that what I really was, had been experiencing my whole life was that I was a medium And then I started the process of learning what that meant and taking classes with other mediums and and learning how to hone those skills.
00:04:14
Medium Jenny Lea
So really it was around that time that I was i was becoming comfortable with the title with the title and knowing what it meant and learning how to do it between 2018 and 2020.
00:04:27
Lee Hatfield
Okay. So with the fact that you describe yourself as a medium, some mediums see, some mediums feel, some mediums hear, which category would you put yourself into?
Communication with Spirits
00:04:41
Medium Jenny Lea
I do not see things with my eyes. I've only seen a couple of things with my eyes, but in my mind's eye, I definitely see, but I also hear, i can have conversations with spirits and energies.
00:04:55
Medium Jenny Lea
And I also can feel like the empathetic parts of it, but also the physical parts, you know, like if I'm speaking with someone's loved one that's passed And I'm trying to figure out how they passed, how they died.
00:05:10
Medium Jenny Lea
i usually can feel physical things in my body that give me some kind of inkling inkling of what it is that caused their passing. So I also have clear cognizance, which is knowing, like just knowing something and you don't know how you know it.
00:05:25
Medium Jenny Lea
So I kind of am all over the place.
00:05:28
Lee Hatfield
okay so let's get let's try and dig into this a little further so when you communicate with the spirits do you kind of speak out loud or do you basically have that conversation in your head
00:05:32
Medium Jenny Lea
yeah
00:05:47
Medium Jenny Lea
It depends if I am communicating with the spirit just for myself, it will happen only internally. But if I'm doing a reading for someone, then I'm having that conversation out loud.
00:06:02
Medium Jenny Lea
Like I'm asking the question of the spirit out loud so that the sitter knows what I'm asking, or I am listening to what they're saying and then reiterating it to their sit to the sitter.
00:06:17
Lee Hatfield
Okay, see, I love how you're so precise in and asking answering these questions.
Joining the Ghost Hunting Group
00:06:22
Lee Hatfield
It's great. It's sort of like, I ask you this and you answer it. It's perfect because it it doesn't kind of open up a can of worms, which is really good because like straight to the point and it's sort of like, right, I'm going to answer this part of this question.
00:06:31
Medium Jenny Lea
Yes.
00:06:35
Medium Jenny Lea
I have to give you room to ask another question. Yeah. Exactly.
00:06:39
Lee Hatfield
Yeah, it's all right.
00:06:39
Medium Jenny Lea
It's when realized that I was a medium in that 2018 time period
00:06:40
Lee Hatfield
Okay, it's been six and a half minutes. Thanks for coming, Jed. Bye.
00:06:45
Medium Jenny Lea
exactly
00:06:46
Lee Hatfield
So when did you feel like you wanted help others?
00:06:54
Medium Jenny Lea
it when i realized that i was a medium and that twenty eighteen time period i knew that i had been like I knew that Spirit had been trying to yell at me like that I need to do something with this for a long time. And of course, I didn't know what it was because I hadn't even figured out that that's what I was yet. but So I started looking around to see if there was any ghost hunting groups that might be looking for other people to join them. So luckily, I did find one in my area and I was able to join them. And there was another medium in that group as well. and
00:07:27
Medium Jenny Lea
That was my first taste of kind of having a little bit of a mentor to help me figure that out. And then that group kind of fizzled. We weren't able to do a whole lot together.
00:07:40
Medium Jenny Lea
and then that's when I pursued, I really started pursuing the classes. And in those classes is when it was very clear that this was something that you could do to help other people.
00:07:54
Medium Jenny Lea
and the information that you could give people to help them with a wide variety of things was really beneficial and really rewarding.
00:08:08
Lee Hatfield
That makes perfect sense.
00:08:10
Medium Jenny Lea
Yeah.
00:08:10
Lee Hatfield
So when you went on your first investigation with this group, I imagine yeah you were kind of quite nervous and sort like, yeah because they're obviously going to expect you to perform, so to speak.
00:08:20
Medium Jenny Lea
Oh yeah.
00:08:25
Lee Hatfield
So how was that very first investigation?
00:08:29
Medium Jenny Lea
It was really cool because I got really great validation for what I picked up on and it's in those validating validating moments that give you that the boost to keep going.
00:08:41
Medium Jenny Lea
So we went to this, we went to a private residence where people, the couple had been having a lot of experiences and that they were scary. Those experiences were scaring them. And through the investigation,
00:08:54
Medium Jenny Lea
we determined that it was just the wife's cousin that had passed and she had been hanging out with them trying to get their attention. And my big validating piece that was important for me as a medium in that moment was I went into the bathroom to use the bathroom, not to investigate in there, and there was a painting on the wall. And as soon as I saw it, I said, she thinks about her cousin when she sees that painting.
00:09:24
Medium Jenny Lea
And when I brought it up to the homeowner later she was like, yeah, absolutely. And she had like this big story about one of the last times she had seen them, they had done tie dye for some bridal shower thing. And I was like this big story that went along with that painting that she did, she thought about her cousin every time she looked at it.
00:09:47
Medium Jenny Lea
So for me, that was one of those really great confirming validating experiences.
00:09:53
Lee Hatfield
That's pretty cool. But I do kind of wonder why people have pictures of family in the bathroom.
00:09:55
Medium Jenny Lea
Yeah.
00:09:59
Lee Hatfield
But that's...
00:10:00
Medium Jenny Lea
but It wasn't a picture of her, it was just a painting.
00:10:00
Lee Hatfield
OK. okay
00:10:03
Medium Jenny Lea
But the painting made her think about that experience of the tie-dye.
00:10:06
Lee Hatfield
Right, right, OK.
00:10:07
Medium Jenny Lea
Yeah.
00:10:09
Lee Hatfield
Yeah, because it's yeah sort of like yeah family members that you don't like, yeah you put the pictures in the bathroom.
00:10:16
Medium Jenny Lea
No, Lee. It was not a portrait in the bathroom.
00:10:18
Lee Hatfield
OK. Phew. I'm glad we i've never we got that cleared. So when you went on your investigation and you were with another medium, did you kind of sync together and feel the same spirits or did you kind of go separate ways? yeah How did that kind of all manifest?
00:10:40
Medium Jenny Lea
I, since then, I've also worked with other mediums as well. And it's seen, it's really interesting to work with other mediums because it seems like there is a lot of syncing where you can, you can both pick up on the same type of information, but then also we, you know, we both pick up on totally different things because each medium has their own skillset and things that they're better at than, than, you know, or things that they've trained more in.
00:11:10
Medium Jenny Lea
So yeah, for example, recently, wow because we're part of the Witching Hours podcast, we've been affiliated with the Spirit Realm Network and they invited us to go to an investigation at, you're gonna love the name of this late, Boobies Brewery in Pennsylvania.
00:11:30
Lee Hatfield
la la La la la la la. I never heard that.
00:11:34
Medium Jenny Lea
It's spelled B-U-B-E, but it's pronounced Boobies. so
00:11:38
Lee Hatfield
so lot Don't do that to me, Jenny.
00:11:43
Medium Jenny Lea
so we go to this brewery and i'm there with my fellow me my fellow medium i i read and we're we're very good friends with each other and we both picked up on the same spirits there's a male spirit here there's a female spirit here but then we both pick up on different things like all of a sudden she starts reading for one of the other investigators because her grandma's standing there and like i didn't pick up on that you know so it's just everybody's Everybody's got their different skills, and that's really fun to work with other mediums.
00:12:13
Lee Hatfield
Yeah, because I'm one of these people where i I want to see what you see. I want to hear what you hear.
00:12:21
Medium Jenny Lea
Mm-hmm.
00:12:21
Lee Hatfield
I want to feel what you feel. And was speaking to a girl on Friday, and she says, have you ever seen anything? And I went, not that I'm aware
Balancing Skepticism and Belief
00:12:34
Lee Hatfield
of. And she went, no, you're talking BS. So why what do what do you mean I'm talking BS? And she goes,
00:12:40
Lee Hatfield
You have seen it, but you've just not acknowledged the fact that you've seen it.
00:12:45
Medium Jenny Lea
Exactly.
00:12:46
Lee Hatfield
And it's sort of like, okay. And I know there's a lot of kind of training and yeah meditation and and that kind of thing involved. So how do you hone your skills to make you a better psychic medium, empath, whatever?
00:13:06
Medium Jenny Lea
For me, my journey was I started taking classes i took right before COVID. I took in some in-person classes with a medium named Jay Marie. And then after COVID, I took classes with the world renowned Cindy Kaysa online and through those courses. And now I also teach my own classes.
00:13:27
Medium Jenny Lea
It's really learning about the different clairs, which is all the things we talked about earlier, the hearing, the seeing, the feeling and understanding how those things come through for yourself and also knowing your own things.
00:13:45
Medium Jenny Lea
You can't understand if things are coming from outside of you if you don't know what's going on with yourself first. So that space that's the very basic steps of learning how to do this kind of work.
00:14:00
Lee Hatfield
Right, because it was quite interesting, like I said, that this is my my third online meeting today.
00:14:06
Medium Jenny Lea
Yeah.
00:14:07
Lee Hatfield
My first one was with my team, Logan and Volta. And I was saying to them what this girl had said. And Volta just come out with, yeah, you and Logan are far too quick to dismiss things.
00:14:19
Lee Hatfield
And there was a video clip that we were looking at because we were reviewing some evidence.
00:14:19
Medium Jenny Lea
Yep.
00:14:24
Lee Hatfield
And I've got my headset on and I'm i'm doing a solo investigation. And I looked to the left. And then after the after I did my solo, they said, what do you see?
00:14:37
Lee Hatfield
And I said, well, I thought I saw something out the corner of my eye. And then I just dismissed it.
00:14:44
Medium Jenny Lea
yeah
00:14:45
Lee Hatfield
And then it's basically, right, you need to stop doing that.
00:14:47
Medium Jenny Lea
Yes.
00:14:48
Lee Hatfield
You need to start acknowledging the fact that what you are seeing is probably something that's of the spiritual world and stop being so yeah stop debunking things as quickly as you see them.
00:14:48
Medium Jenny Lea
Yeah.
00:14:58
Medium Jenny Lea
Yes.
00:15:01
Medium Jenny Lea
You have to be able to trust what you're seeing, what you're hearing, what you're feeling, what you're getting. But it's also good to come at it's also good to have the other side of that as well, of having a logical mind and having some skepticism.
00:15:16
Medium Jenny Lea
Because we also don't want to take everything as paranormal like experience if it's not, you know, if it's like the pipes bumping in the wall or whatever, you know, a door opening because there's a window open down the hallway or something.
00:15:26
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:15:29
Medium Jenny Lea
Like, it's good to have a balance. You have to have a balance, yeah.
00:15:33
Lee Hatfield
Yeah. And I spent 25 years in the emergency services. So, yeah, everything is basically how you see it.
00:15:43
Medium Jenny Lea
yeah
00:15:43
Lee Hatfield
So, yeah and I think to try to get rid of that mentality to now have this, okay, let's open up my experiences. It's going to take some doing for sure.
00:15:55
Medium Jenny Lea
Well, now that you've said that, i have to agree with all your other medium friends you talked to today.
00:15:56
Lee Hatfield
But
00:16:02
Medium Jenny Lea
Because if you worked for 25 years in emergency services, you have probably had a lot of paranormal experiences that you just dismissed. Absolutely.
00:16:12
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
Spirit Guides and Higher Self
00:16:13
Lee Hatfield
and And there's one that I tell loads of people because it absolutely astounded me. Long story short, I was doing cardiac arrest with a new employee that I'd not worked with and he turned out to be a medium.
00:16:25
Lee Hatfield
So as I'm doing CPR, he's saying, oh, yeah, the spirit stood behind you saying telling you you can stop.
00:16:26
Medium Jenny Lea
Oh, wow.
00:16:32
Medium Jenny Lea
Wow.
00:16:32
Lee Hatfield
No, I've got a job to do.
00:16:34
Medium Jenny Lea
Mm-hmm.
00:16:36
Lee Hatfield
but like yeah And that really kind of blew it open for me.
00:16:40
Medium Jenny Lea
Mm-hmm.
00:16:41
Lee Hatfield
But so you you have spirit guide, correct? Or spirit guides plural?
00:16:46
Medium Jenny Lea
That's an interesting conversation, Lee.
00:16:50
Lee Hatfield
Okay, Jenny. Tell me more.
00:16:53
Medium Jenny Lea
So I don't know all of my spirit guides. Some of them don't want me to know who they are yet. And it's kind of frustrating. But i do have i do have a specific spirit guide that I work with when I do my channeling work.
00:17:10
Medium Jenny Lea
And he is a Maya priest that apparently I picked up when I went on a trip to Guatemala. But he works with me to as like my gatekeeper of like letting people come in and out to work as and when I'm doing channeling.
00:17:25
Medium Jenny Lea
But these other spirit guide guys, they don't they're not really very open about letting me know who they are. I got a reading from another medium reader recently.
00:17:37
Medium Jenny Lea
And she was like, yeah. They said, why do you need to know?
00:17:42
Lee Hatfield
Because I'm nosy.
00:17:43
Medium Jenny Lea
are you serious?
00:17:44
Lee Hatfield
I'm curious.
00:17:47
Medium Jenny Lea
yeah so that's that's me
00:17:48
Lee Hatfield
So,
00:17:52
Lee Hatfield
okay. Yeah. I can see where these guides are coming from to be fair. So how is it the same kind of communication with these spirit guides? So it happens in your head.
00:18:05
Medium Jenny Lea
uh they i don't know about them i think they might they must work behind the scenes because i i don't get a lot of communication with them but I have, I don't know if you know information about higher self or if your listeners know about the concept of higher self.
00:18:26
Medium Jenny Lea
But that is what I really spend the most time talking with is my own higher self. And I'm welcome to explain that more if you'd like.
00:18:36
Lee Hatfield
go Go for it.
00:18:38
Medium Jenny Lea
So the concept of higher self is a little bit confusing and tricky, especially at first when you first learn about it, because it's it doesn't make any sense. So for our logical friends, it's going to be like, what?
00:18:52
Lee Hatfield
Great.
00:18:54
Medium Jenny Lea
But the idea of it is that our soul energy is not just what's here in our physical realm. It's that we also have part of ourself that stays on the spirit side.
00:19:08
Medium Jenny Lea
And because they're on the spirit side they have, they're kind of like an oversoul. They can see the big picture and whatever the big picture means to you, whether it's past lives, future lives, lives happy at the same time, or just one life, wait whatever you want to think about it, but they have this greater understanding.
00:19:30
Medium Jenny Lea
So i have been able to connect with my own higher self. I've read for people from their higher selves, which is very strange. And that higher self has, because they're part of you,
00:19:45
Medium Jenny Lea
They are your best guide. you can almost think about them as like when you have those moments, those intuitive moments where it feels like a gut you have a gut feeling about something or you're conscious, you know, like the little Jiminy Cricket conscious, like do this, don't do that.
00:20:04
Medium Jenny Lea
That's when higher self is stepping up to try to help you, guide you in the right directions. adam So that's the simplest way that I can explain it.
00:20:15
Lee Hatfield
Some of that made sense, but but yeah it's
00:20:16
Medium Jenny Lea
Yeah. And some of it is like, what?
00:20:22
Lee Hatfield
but if you've not discussed or spoken about that kind of thing, it's kind of kind it's like, meow.
00:20:27
Medium Jenny Lea
Yes, exactly. It took me years to try to understand what that even means. Yeah.
00:20:34
Lee Hatfield
And do do you fully understand it now, are you still learning?
00:20:36
Medium Jenny Lea
No, I don't think that we could fully understand it because we can't, because we're here in our little fishbowl and we can't see the bigger picture. But I trust it now and I understand enough of it to be able to understand that that's my best spirit guide is really myself.
00:20:55
Lee Hatfield
Right. yeah
00:20:56
Medium Jenny Lea
Yeah.
00:20:56
Lee Hatfield
you know You're not confusing me at all, Jenny, honest.
00:20:58
Medium Jenny Lea
Okay. Yeah.
00:21:01
Lee Hatfield
So I was speaking to another medium earlier in the year, and they were a teacher. And they said that when they found out that their partner's grandmother had died, she appeared at the back of the classroom.
00:21:08
Medium Jenny Lea
yeah
00:21:19
Medium Jenny Lea
Wow.
00:21:19
Lee Hatfield
So that's that was the first thing how she knew that this woman had passed. So how do you deal with everyday life? And are you able to switch your abilities on and off like a light switch or like a radio kind of?
Managing Psychic Abilities
00:21:35
Medium Jenny Lea
I used to say that. I used to say that I can turn it on and off like a light switch, but I don't think that that's ever really actually been true. I think that I was just feeling like I could do it.
00:21:48
Medium Jenny Lea
but I don't think that I actually do that. And to be honest, I don't think that I would want to do that now. But for me, it is very specific when I am doing work, when I am doing spiritual work, I have a process that I go through and that's like turning on the open sign.
00:22:07
Medium Jenny Lea
And that's when my connection is very strong and i I'm in the zone and I can do all the things that I that i need to do for the work. And when I'm not in that space, it's more like a trickle, like things will come through a little bit, but it's not like, it's not that flow.
00:22:30
Lee Hatfield
Okay, that makes sense.
00:22:31
Medium Jenny Lea
Yeah.
00:22:31
Lee Hatfield
So the kind of the question that I always kind of ask people is, yeah you're pushing your car in the supermarket, doing your weekly shopping, and do you kind of get messages come coming in like randomly or like you say, do you kind of wait until you're open for business, as you mentioned it?
00:22:57
Medium Jenny Lea
I, haven't really had specific instance where I'm out in public doing my everyday normal human things and someone's loved one has come through wanting me to talk to them.
00:23:13
Medium Jenny Lea
I've had that happen with friends before where someone's loved one came through wanting me to tell my friend something.
00:23:23
Medium Jenny Lea
And I didn't know if my friend even believed in all of that. So that was difficult. But for me, if I'm out in public, it's usually I'm picked because of the empath part of myself.
00:23:36
Medium Jenny Lea
I can sometimes pick up on things about people for good or bad. And that can kind of be frustrating to kind of know things about someone. And I don't want to know them.
00:23:47
Medium Jenny Lea
You know, like I don't need to know them.
00:23:47
Lee Hatfield
and
00:23:50
Lee Hatfield
Yeah. And could that be just somebody random that that you're passing in yeah in this in the store?
00:23:50
Medium Jenny Lea
Yeah.
00:23:54
Medium Jenny Lea
Yep.
00:23:56
Lee Hatfield
It's sort of like tap them on the shoulder and go, guess what?
00:23:56
Medium Jenny Lea
Mm-hmm. Yes.
00:24:01
Medium Jenny Lea
Yeah.
00:24:03
Lee Hatfield
So when you got that information about your friend, how did you approach that subject?
00:24:07
Medium Jenny Lea
Yeah.
00:24:11
Medium Jenny Lea
I waited a long time to tell him because I knew that even if he did believe, like even if he did or didn't believe it, it was going to be difficult because of the situation. and what happened with the person passing.
00:24:25
Medium Jenny Lea
But when I did finally tell him, he was like, why didn't you tell me before? you know, I was like, I didn't know.
00:24:32
Lee Hatfield
you call what You can't win, can you? You're damned you do and you're damned if you don't.
00:24:34
Medium Jenny Lea
know, like I didn't know if he would. So he he, I don't know. i don't think that he minded that I told telled him told him, obviously, because he was upset that I hadn't told him earlier.
00:24:49
Medium Jenny Lea
but the information that came through i think was a little upsetting for him and and that's why i was afraid to tell him because i knew that it would be it would be upsetting yeah
00:24:58
Lee Hatfield
Yeah, because some people that think it's all a load of garbage. But my answer to that is, well, if that's the case, number one, what evidence do you have that it's garbage?
00:25:10
Medium Jenny Lea
yeah
00:25:10
Lee Hatfield
and number And number two, like, if it's garbage, why do all these things kind of happen and people see, hear, feel, et cetera, when there's nothing there? And then they kind of zump, because they can't answer that question.
00:25:27
Medium Jenny Lea
Yeah. And, you know, and to take the other side of this, you you know, people could argue, well, maybe they're not talking to spirits. Maybe they're picking up on things through the living person, which I just said, I do that.
00:25:42
Medium Jenny Lea
So people could say, you know, well, maybe she's just reading the person and not actually talking to
00:25:42
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:25:50
Medium Jenny Lea
their grandma or whatever. But I have a couple of instances where that disproves that. One of them was, i was reading for a lady and the person who was coming through kept showing me this piece of jewelry.
00:26:05
Medium Jenny Lea
And she was like, I don't know what that is. You know, I don't have a piece of jewelry like that. Nobody's given me a piece of jewelry like that. Like, I don't know. and then all of a sudden, while I'm reading for her,
00:26:19
Medium Jenny Lea
Like her mom or her aunt or somebody starts texting her and said, so-and-so dropped off a Christmas present for you and you you should come over and get it.
00:26:31
Medium Jenny Lea
And she's like, why don't you, like she tells her mom or her aunt, why won don't you just go ahead and open it and see you know what it is? Because we're in the middle of this reading and lo and behold, she opens the present
00:26:42
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:26:46
Medium Jenny Lea
And it was the exact same piece of jewelry that I was getting shown in the reading. So how did, there's there's no way for me to know that.
00:26:56
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:26:57
Medium Jenny Lea
The woman I was reading for didn't even know that she had it.
00:27:02
Lee Hatfield
That's crazy. I bet you're really good at spoiling Christmas for people, aren't you?
00:27:03
Medium Jenny Lea
Yeah.
00:27:08
Medium Jenny Lea
I try not to, Leah, because I like surprises.
00:27:11
Lee Hatfield
like
00:27:14
Lee Hatfield
I'm sorry.
00:27:17
Medium Jenny Lea
I did though for her, right? Like, you have a Christmas present from so-and-so.
00:27:19
Lee Hatfield
Yeah, it's sort like, yeah, that's You're off the Christmas card list from now on.
00:27:21
Medium Jenny Lea
It's a heart necklace.
00:27:30
Lee Hatfield
So could you say that you've had something that is so impactful that you never forget
Unique Spiritual Experiences
00:27:40
Lee Hatfield
about it. And if people ask you this question, there's always one story that comes to your mind.
00:27:47
Medium Jenny Lea
Yes. Are you ready to get super weird?
00:27:51
Lee Hatfield
i felt Well, you mean we're not already? You're spoiling Christmas.
00:27:54
Medium Jenny Lea
No.
00:27:55
Lee Hatfield
yeah
00:27:57
Medium Jenny Lea
People's loved one, dead loved ones in the bathroom. No. No, this is gonna be a really weird one, Lee. So you should you should buckle up.
00:28:03
Lee Hatfield
Go for it.
00:28:06
Medium Jenny Lea
So I channel lots of different kinds of energies and it's not always human energies. So we were just doing this practice try to see what comes through channeling session. And I connected with some weird alien entities that were not human.
00:28:27
Medium Jenny Lea
They looked like a slime mold. And they said that they were sentient, that they were just as conscious as we were. that this is the thing that really blew my mind. And I had, I've had to look at the whole world and existence in a different way.
00:28:49
Medium Jenny Lea
They said that all life is sentient. And that's just stuck with me ever since. And I have to look at everything differently because it's like I was talking to a slime mold. What the, you know, what?
00:29:06
Medium Jenny Lea
It doesn't make any sense.
00:29:09
Lee Hatfield
It doesn't. However, people that I've spoken to on this podcast, yeah, I've spoken to people that have had out-of-body experiences. I've spoken to people that are connected to the fae and fairies.
00:29:26
Medium Jenny Lea
Yes.
00:29:27
Lee Hatfield
I've spoken to somebody who just casually dropped into his podcast. Oh yeah, that was about the time I got abducted by aliens.
00:29:34
Medium Jenny Lea
Yeah.
00:29:35
Lee Hatfield
So that's, that's going to be a second episode. Cause like, dude, you can't just do that.
00:29:39
Medium Jenny Lea
Yeah. No, that's not a two second conversation.
00:29:40
Lee Hatfield
So you to say that exactly. he had Yeah. Yeah. for For you to say that I'm, I'm kind of at that time in this podcast where now I'll just go, okay.
00:29:57
Lee Hatfield
But, i I never ridicule anybody for what they say because a lot of the paranormal world is, and even in mediumship and yeah all this, it's all personal experiences.
00:30:14
Medium Jenny Lea
Exactly.
00:30:14
Lee Hatfield
I can't say that you did not experience that.
00:30:17
Medium Jenny Lea
Yeah.
00:30:18
Lee Hatfield
I just ask questions so that I can learn more about what other people experience.
00:30:21
Medium Jenny Lea
Yeah.
00:30:26
Medium Jenny Lea
Exactly. That's the way I am too.
00:30:27
Lee Hatfield
And what?
00:30:28
Medium Jenny Lea
It's like, I can't, I can't believe in something until I've experienced
00:30:28
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:30:32
Medium Jenny Lea
It's like, you have to have that experience in order for it to be part of you.
00:30:36
Lee Hatfield
That's it. And I know there's a lot of, yeah, what i won't I won't necessarily call them skeptics, but there are a lot of people in the paranormal universe that want to believe, but they want their own proof.
00:30:38
Medium Jenny Lea
Yeah.
00:30:48
Medium Jenny Lea
Mm-hmm.
00:30:53
Medium Jenny Lea
Yeah. And I think that that's totally normal and that that should be that should be fine.
00:30:56
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:30:59
Medium Jenny Lea
Because I'm the same way.
00:31:01
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:31:02
Medium Jenny Lea
Even though I'm talking to slime molds and you know whatever else comes through, I'm the same way.
00:31:02
Lee Hatfield
So
00:31:07
Lee Hatfield
yeah Jenny, whatever what whatever you do on a Saturday night has got nothing to
00:31:15
Medium Jenny Lea
But you know I've been reading these books about trees and plants
00:31:16
Lee Hatfield
Yes.
00:31:19
Medium Jenny Lea
And the more they study trees and plants, the more they realize that they communicate with each other.
00:31:24
Lee Hatfield
Yes.
00:31:24
Medium Jenny Lea
Now, whether that has that means that they have some consciousness that's similar to ours, I don't know. But clearly there's more happening even in our own world that we don't realize.
00:31:37
Medium Jenny Lea
Yeah.
00:31:38
Lee Hatfield
And as soon as people start realising that, then this place, it could potentially be a lot better place. let Let's just say that.
00:31:48
Medium Jenny Lea
I hope so, yeah
00:31:49
Lee Hatfield
Yeah. But there's a lot of people that are so ignorant. yeah black Black is black. White is white. There's no grey area.
00:31:56
Medium Jenny Lea
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:31:59
Lee Hatfield
So talk to me about angels.
00:32:05
Medium Jenny Lea
That's another one. Actually, that was a good segue because that was one of the ones where I was like, I don't believe in angels. Like I've never seen an angel before. Like, and I always thought about angels as being something that was religious.
00:32:17
Medium Jenny Lea
And because I didn't grow up in a religious household and I was even in this life, kind of persecuted by religious people because I was weird. I didn't really think that was something I even wanted to talk to And then all of a sudden I saw one and I was like, oh yeah, I remember you. It's like, I knew that I knew this before.
00:32:43
Medium Jenny Lea
i saw the Archangel Michael. He just appeared to me in a car ride one day. And I was like, But as soon as I saw him, it was very familiar. I already knew, already knew, you know?
00:32:53
Lee Hatfield
but
00:32:56
Medium Jenny Lea
But once I started communicating with angels and angels started coming through for other people, I realized that it is not something that's religious.
00:33:07
Medium Jenny Lea
It's just that religions have recognized them and that's become part of their scripture. But really angels are for everyone. And they're also not necessarily beautiful humans with giant wings.
00:33:20
Medium Jenny Lea
to me, it seems like that's the way that they present themselves to us so that we understand what they are.
00:33:26
Lee Hatfield
Yeah, that makes sense because if if something's not of this realm, so to speak, and they
00:33:36
Lee Hatfield
their look is something that they know would freak us out for want of an easy expression, it would make perfect sense that they change the way they look to make it more comfortable for individuals.
00:33:41
Medium Jenny Lea
Yeah.
00:33:49
Medium Jenny Lea
Yeah.
00:33:52
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:33:53
Medium Jenny Lea
Yeah. Like I'm in some part of the Bible. I know that there's a, the, one of the original descriptions of an angel is like a giant eyeball thing that's got wheels around it or something like, so yeah, that probably was terrifying.
00:34:10
Lee Hatfield
I can imagine.
00:34:11
Medium Jenny Lea
Yeah.
00:34:11
Lee Hatfield
Yeah. i especially yes it kind of like
00:34:12
Medium Jenny Lea
Let's switch over to like super beautiful humans with wings. Maybe that won't scare them so much.
00:34:18
Lee Hatfield
yeah
00:34:22
Lee Hatfield
Yeah. that that Yeah. sort of like yeah
00:34:24
Medium Jenny Lea
Yeah.
00:34:24
Lee Hatfield
could These people would not be able to cope.
00:34:27
Medium Jenny Lea
No, we can't handle giant eyeballs in the sky.
00:34:28
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:34:29
Medium Jenny Lea
Yeah. No.
00:34:31
Lee Hatfield
Yeah. You've seen it in a few TV shows, but it's like, yeah, okay.
00:34:34
Medium Jenny Lea
yeah
00:34:34
Lee Hatfield
Yeah. That's weird.
00:34:36
Medium Jenny Lea
yeah
00:34:37
Lee Hatfield
Okay. So... I asked you a few minutes ago about if you've had anything that was particularly impactful. But have you experienced a situation where you felt physically drained?
00:34:49
Lee Hatfield
And if you have, how did you recover or decompress afterwards?
00:34:54
Medium Jenny Lea
Yes. So this is a fun story. I have, i was doing a reading for someone that I read for often and all of a sudden someone comes through for him that I hadn't encountered before.
00:35:08
Medium Jenny Lea
And she came at me like a wild animal. And we discovered that this was his aunt and in life, she had been a very difficult, angry person.
00:35:19
Medium Jenny Lea
And in death, she was still a difficult, angry person. And she was just came at me freaking out, like angry and like foaming at the mouth, just so bitter and just disgruntled.
00:35:34
Medium Jenny Lea
and And that specific it's experience was really draining. i think that's one of the only times that I ever really felt super drained after a reading.
00:35:45
Medium Jenny Lea
And it was just the intensity of her energy. was too much
00:35:51
Lee Hatfield
And did you do anything specific to decompress yourself afterwards?
00:35:57
Medium Jenny Lea
i don't know if i remember but i do specific things to help myself decompress uh one of them is taking epsom salt baths and doing a visualization meditation where i'm kind of clearing out junk from my physical energy that isn't mine
00:36:15
Medium Jenny Lea
So I probably did one of those after that reading.
00:36:19
Lee Hatfield
busy girl.
00:36:20
Medium Jenny Lea
Yeah.
00:36:23
Lee Hatfield
So out of all the different talents or skills that you have, which one would you say is at the top of your performance right now?
Channeling and Other Psychic Skills
00:36:35
Lee Hatfield
And then which others would you say that you've still got a lot to learn?
00:36:41
Medium Jenny Lea
So The channeling that I do seems to be coming be seems to be becoming of the predominant way that I do readings now.
00:36:52
Medium Jenny Lea
And it's sort of, words gett comp make things complicated, but it's more of like going into a trance and having the communication flow through me directly, instead of me having to have that con back and forth conversation with an energy.
00:37:11
Medium Jenny Lea
It's just flowing through me. That seems to be what comes through the most. It's also what I've been the most reluctant to allow because I felt like it was too weird, but I've not that talking to slime molds wasn't weird, but now that I have really embraced it and I've just been okay with it and and letting it happen and just being the biggest weirdo out there,
00:37:39
Medium Jenny Lea
That is really become honed over the last couple of years. And I feel very comfortable with that almost to the point where i feel more comfortable doing that now than i do evidential mediumship, which is the typical that people do.
00:37:58
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:37:59
Medium Jenny Lea
Yeah.
00:37:59
Lee Hatfield
So are you able to, and I'm going to ask this for a particular reason, are you able to like astral project or or remote viewing or anything like that?
00:38:12
Medium Jenny Lea
Mm-hmm. Yes. Yes. I don't think that my experience of astral projection is the same as people who learn how to do it and that they, they have a procedure for doing it.
00:38:29
Medium Jenny Lea
I think mine just happens spontaneously and it's usually in my dream time. remote viewing is super fun and i we We like to do, in part of my my community, we like to do some so room remote viewing practices together where we try to remove view something together and see what we get.
00:38:50
Medium Jenny Lea
And then remote viewing sometimes will spontaneously happen during people's readings as well.
00:38:56
Lee Hatfield
Because the reason why I asked, I was it i was recording an episode on Friday and was talking about this to the to the individual. And she was able to pretty much describe that, number one, I had two shower curtains and literally what was on both of them.
00:39:15
Lee Hatfield
It wasn't 100% accurate, but it was pretty much there.
00:39:15
Medium Jenny Lea
Wow.
00:39:18
Medium Jenny Lea
Yeah.
00:39:22
Medium Jenny Lea
Mm-hmm. What was she doing in your shower, Lee?
00:39:23
Lee Hatfield
I won't go into i Well, that that's another story. See,
00:39:34
Lee Hatfield
you're a bad influence. You really are. Yeah. I won't say it on air right now because I don't know if hers is going to get shown before yours or yours gets shown after.
00:39:40
Medium Jenny Lea
Okay. Yeah.
00:39:44
Medium Jenny Lea
Yes, yes. but Leave it a yeah
00:39:45
Lee Hatfield
But i will tell you i will tell you afterwards when we finish the podcast.
00:39:50
Medium Jenny Lea
okay yeah leave it a surprise.
00:39:52
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:39:52
Medium Jenny Lea
That's really cool.
00:39:52
Lee Hatfield
So, yeah, it is. And it's like, it kind of blew my mind for the entire weekend. I just don't what to say. But maybe you can enlighten me
Co-hosting The Witching Hours Podcast
00:40:00
Lee Hatfield
afterwards. So, The Witching Hour podcast, you're the co-host.
00:40:04
Medium Jenny Lea
Yes. Yeah.
00:40:06
Lee Hatfield
Tell me about that.
00:40:08
Medium Jenny Lea
So the other host is my husband and he goes by Frosty online.
00:40:14
Lee Hatfield
Is he weird as well?
00:40:15
Lee Hatfield
Okay. Okay.
00:40:16
Medium Jenny Lea
He's weird by default, yeah, because he's married to me.
00:40:22
Lee Hatfield
Just thought I'd get that out there before anybody asks.
00:40:26
Medium Jenny Lea
not as weird as me, but like you said, I'm a bad influence.
00:40:27
Lee Hatfield
Okay, okay. That was weird. yep
00:40:30
Medium Jenny Lea
So
00:40:31
Lee Hatfield
Yes, yes. yeah i I found that out very quickly today.
00:40:35
Medium Jenny Lea
he so we started in about 2022, I think, and he was obsessed with art bells coast to coast back in the day. like just absolutely loves it and loved Art Bell and loves that whole experience. So he kind of wanted to do something similar. So we kind of just started it for fun, just thinking, you know, this would be something fun we can do together.
00:41:01
Medium Jenny Lea
and then here we are four years later. I think, yeah, this will be, it must 2021, not 2022, because this will be our fourth year in October that we've been doing the podcast together.
00:41:16
Lee Hatfield
And i know it's called The Witching Hour Podcast, but what kind of people do you get on your podcast?
00:41:23
Medium Jenny Lea
We talk about everything weird, surprisingly, paranormal, unexplained, supernatural.
00:41:28
Lee Hatfield
Green...
00:41:31
Medium Jenny Lea
talk to people about cryptids, aliens, UFOs, lot of mediums, lot of paranormal groups.
00:41:37
Lee Hatfield
Green mold.
00:41:38
Medium Jenny Lea
like Yeah, great yeah
00:41:39
Lee Hatfield
Green mold. It's
00:41:43
Medium Jenny Lea
slime molds.
00:41:44
Lee Hatfield
like mold, that's it.
00:41:45
Medium Jenny Lea
On Monday, we have someone coming out talk about fairies. So it's a wide variety of things.
00:41:52
Lee Hatfield
That's pretty cool. I'm going to have to where chase up on that and sort of like see see what else I can learn.
00:41:53
Medium Jenny Lea
Yeah.
00:41:59
Medium Jenny Lea
Yeah. Okay.
00:42:00
Lee Hatfield
Could that be fun? Okay, Jenny, unfortunately, we are coming towards the end. So where can people find you? What's next for Jenny Lee and anything else you want to tell us?
00:42:12
Lee Hatfield
Go.
00:42:12
Medium Jenny Lea
Okay, so mediumjennielee.com, that's an A, not an L-E-A, is the place where you can find every link to everything that you could possibly, where you would want to find me.
00:42:26
Medium Jenny Lea
I do stream live on Twitch on Thursday and Friday nights. and Also the same name, Medium Jenny Lee. The Witching Hours podcast happens on Monday nights at 8 p.m. Eastern Standard Time on the Spirit Realm Network.
00:42:40
Medium Jenny Lea
Spirit realm Network Facebook page and Twitch, but you can also find us wherever you listen to podcasts and on YouTube.
00:42:47
Lee Hatfield
Perfect. And just for the record, the correct way of spelling Lee is with two E's. Just putting it out there.
00:42:53
Medium Jenny Lea
No, it's L-E-A. Your Lee is two E's.
00:42:56
Lee Hatfield
and And the let's not even go down the L-E-I-G-H. that's that's just That's just out there.
00:43:02
Medium Jenny Lea
Yeah. No, that's just craziness.
00:43:04
Lee Hatfield
that's yeah
00:43:05
Medium Jenny Lea
We can't, we can't handle that.
00:43:10
Lee Hatfield
Jenny, it's been an absolute pleasure. We've had so much fun. I thank you for your time. Hopefully I get to speak to you again soon. We can talk about something completely random.
00:43:18
Medium Jenny Lea
Yes, that'd be great.
00:43:22
Lee Hatfield
But again, thanks very much. You have a great day. a And like as I said, I'll talk to you soon. Take care.
00:43:28
Medium Jenny Lea
Thank you.
00:43:28
Lee Hatfield
Bye-bye.