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Glick's House of Music: Jules and the Howl
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Jules is back, and we are catching up with Jules & The Howl. We're diving into what's new,what's louer, and what's been shaking the walls since the last time she rolled through. Real talk,road stories,and that untamed rock'n'roll energy front and center, All right here on Glick's House of Music - your unofficial backstage pass
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Musical Unity and Resilience
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Musicians gather spirit
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Strings and drums in harmony Voices rise in sweet decree
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All things music, a vibrant call for one and all to give their all in this sanctuary where dreams ignite music's power.
Meet the 'Comeback Kid'
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I can answer few stories shared To hangouts no time spared From so-
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Just give me ammunition.
Welcome to Glick's House of Music
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Call me the comeback kid. I've been down here in the trenches swinging for the fences.
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Oh, God forbid. No more stop signs. No more red light. I'm about to
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Me under pressure
Miss Jules Returns: Social Media and Past Appearances
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failure is my measure try to shake me down Back in bones I made steal my convictions hold my shield they'll see me coming around
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Breaking down, giving up. Gonna take my air.
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What is going on everybody? Happy Tuesday Welcome Glick's House of Music right here on the Nonsensical Network Your unofficial backstage pass to all things music Yeah, that's what we do If you're not already, go ahead and check us out and give us a follow Bio.link slash Nonsensical Network All them links is there, you can find us, follow us, like us, share us Tell all your friends why because well, I'm pretty awesome and while he's alright, too And we got a lot of really good content around here that we like to hang out and share with you guys Penny who's he's enough about me and enough about us. We're here for a reason
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She don't need much of an an introduction because she's just going to come in here a complete ball of fire and energy. You guys may have seen her before. You may not have seen her but before. But it's one of my favorite people and one of my favorite guests. One and only Miss Jules and the howl.
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What's up, Glick? How you doing, man? What's going on with you? I'm good. It is so good to be back. I love what you guys do over here, especially on the Glicks House of Music. That's my personal fave. So I'm really, really happy to be back, man. Thanks for having me.
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Absolutely. You know you're always welcomed here. You don't even that you don't even you just got to tell me, hey, I'm coming in next Tuesday. All right. I but i got to get screwed. I got you fucking coming.
00:07:34
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You're getting bumped for Jewel. Sorry, I don't make the rules. kind she does. That's it. Her show. I love it. Thank you, Marilyn. I appreciate it. No, I always look forward to having you back on and hanging out with you and catching up with you because we were talking a little bit backstage and it's it's been a little hot minute since since you guys since you've been on.
Women Rock LA and Future Uncertainties
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yeah We've had a chance to to chat about what's going on other than you look busy as hell on social media. but Yeah, social media is a wonderful thing. You can make it look whatever you want it to. It's the highlights. No, I mean, I've been blessed. First of all, I was thinking about it before we got on here, and I was like, shit, when was last time I like talked to Glick? And I think it's been like going on two years.
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And here's how I know. I think last year you were on. Was it last year? because Because we were talking about Women Rock LA, right? Yeah, I think it was the second one.
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Has it been two years since you did second? Yeah. Okay, then it okay then then then it's been late earlier than that. Okay, okay, or later more piece than that. Okay, okay, nevermind. Well, the reason why I bring it up is because on the second episode then that you and I were on together, for it was for when we were promoting the first one, Rock LA. And ah this this girl, one of the artists, her name was Marley, and we were coming up with like merch names and like ideas for her. And she actually did print the shirt that says Bubbly Badass. That's awesome.
00:09:06
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Yeah, yeah, I know it's like backwards. You probably can't read it, but like you get the gist. That's awesome. I'm so glad she actually did that. That's funny. She She did. and she And she kicked ass at the show. where She did. She did great. but Okay, yeah. So it's been not quite as long, which is good. But either way, it's going to that's awesome. Well, yeah, you guys you guys killed it back-to-back years with the Women Rock LA. Are you going to do it again? Or i got...
00:09:33
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Yeah, no, that remains to be seen. If we if we did do it, we would probably do it in the fall. um My co-producer, co-founder, Bree, she's incredible. She's a really good friend of mine. She is kind of pursuing some different paths in her life, like career-wise and whatnot.
00:09:54
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um She's still doing um dueling pianos, and she's still like a COO at the company that she works at. She just an insane boss bitch, because of course she is. um So she's been really busy with that. So I'm not quite sure if we'll if we'll do it again. If we do do it, it would be probably like maybe in the fall of this year.
Balancing Burnout and Personal Life
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but But in the meantime, I've been trying to kind of fill my calendar with other tour dates and releases and all that good stuff. So still a little fun.
00:10:22
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You're just going to to take the reins for yourself and do it and and find you another partner. I know. I know. If it, if it weren't such a near and dear project to me and breathe that I'd be like, yo, i i got it. But like, that's the thing, man, like putting on a festival um and coordinating with like all the bands and the venue and like logistics and all that shit. Like that is not a one person thing. like Yeah, i ah I've started to kind of look into it as as you and I have talked about before. yeah I want to do my music fest.
00:10:53
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It's going to be a challenge. Yeah, it's a lot. It's a lot. It's going to be easy. The guest part's going to be easy. It's everything else. but but Right. Right. No, I mean, it's it's like, and we didn't have to get permits because we just hosted it at a venue. But if you if you're doing like an outdoor one, it'd be like the permits, the vendors, the you know the the the noise laws for like whatever is outside, whatever what they call it, like noise curfew or whatever the hell it is. Yeah, yeah. you know, shit like that. And, um, just having, it's just so many moving parts that you're having to kind of do all at once. And so we were kind of like, okay, this is definitely not like a one or two person thing, even like maybe even three. so we had a lot more help the second time that we did it. Um, where we had like our, our girl, um,
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Andrea come in for, sorry, Andrea Love come in for stage managing. That helped immensely. Like that was so huge have someone as like a day of like point of contact and she was clutch. um But yeah, no, we'll see. um Sorry,
Touring Challenges and Local Show Culture
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I'm still getting over a cold, but yeah, TBD.
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TBD on that one for sure. A true rock star. She's been sick and she still made sure she was here to me. We do what we can. We do. It does not stop. That's, I mean, that's honestly the thing. Like I, I have to be like super sick in order to stop. Like truly it's, it's, it's very much a curse. um You know, we were talking earlier but backstage about like burnout and whatnot. And even then, like, you know, I was telling you how, like, even then, like,
00:12:27
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For me, like taking a step back or taking a break is like doing our normal person's like, oh my gosh, the schedule's overwhelming. And for me, I'm kind of like, yeah, this is nothing. this is This is nothing. This is easy. This is pie. like Come on. You're right.
00:12:42
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Like jamming everything all at once. And so consequently, my body i think like last week was just like and bitch you are done need to lay your ass down in bed and don't move and sure like like i literally i had a i was so mad i had to cancel songwriting sessions i had to cancel i couldn't go some of my friend's shows i had a just all these things that like literally my body was like making me be like all like seriously you need to stop yeah hard reset for you Very much. And it's it's crazy. It's like, I've only been like, you know, out of pocket for like five or six days, but I still feel like, oh my God, I have so much to catch up on. I have so much to do.
00:13:21
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The world is so moving about me. Like I go on tour in three weeks, like Jesus. I know the feeling. that we yeah we We went on vacation few weeks back and my girlfriend said, for the week that we're out, no podcast.
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and she And I was like, okay, nothing podcast related. And then I accidentally double booked guests. We were on our way down to Florida, and we were talking about upcoming guests.
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And I was like, okay, I got to handle this one thing while we're on vacation. But she caught it and called me out on it. she And I was like, crap. I had two guests booked for the same Tuesday night. Fortunately, the guests that I had book that realized that I had another guest. He's like, oh, no, he's cool. He was a return.
00:14:07
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You know, he's a repeat offender. So he's been on both guys were it was like, OK, cool. okay we thought You know, it's like repeat offenders. They they know what what you're you're saying. Your girlfriend caught the mistake.
00:14:22
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Yeah, she kind of plays my producer as well in behind-the-scenes help because we were talking about it, and I was talking about the upcoming two weeks when we came back, and she's like, don't you have Rock Lee on that night?
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And I was like, e shit. And was
Personal Life Amidst a Busy Career
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yep. let me yeah let me let me ah message Zay real quick and see if he's cool. And he's like, yeah, I'm good, man. Don't worry about it. Yeah, you're like, I promise this will be fixed and then I won't touch it. No, I know. I have to, like, I have to, like, make that commitment, like, to my husband, too. It's like,
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it's like okay seriously like you really can't like touch any of this and he know and he obviously he knows that this is like an entrepreneurial entrepreneurial lifestyle so it never really shuts off um but it's like okay wednesday night we're gonna do date night and i was like and you know i because i had to cancel some various things and move things around um my producer was like oh can you meet wednesday and like I was like, I'm not the best God, sorry. I'm like, I'm not gonna bail on date night. like That's important. like
00:15:29
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That's gonna outlast any career that I have. So, you know, was like, alright, that's cool. We were special. No, it's nice with their understanding. It makes it a little bit easier because then you don't feel like such a jackass. Because I did. I felt like a huge jackass. I was like, I'm sorry, man. He's like, no, it's cool. Don't worry about it, dude. We'll just do it the following week.
00:15:50
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Which is great. I guess the following week. No, exactly. and i was like i was I had messaged certain people said I was going to have like a coffee. i was going to have like with a potential collaborator. and then i was gonna like and and I was like, I swear i am not trying to be an L.A. flake right now. like i think I'm being like, like listen, like for real. like I'm actually sick. like I'm not like, I'm sick. like you know like like You don't want me anywhere near you. like For real. yeah And so, like, as you know, again, it's meant to be, it happens, like, where, like, I had to, like, reschedule some things, whatever. But also, you're not making me cry. i just tear up when I start coughing. It's fine. It's fine.
00:16:32
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Well, only 16 minutes in it, I've already made you cry. I know. God damn it, Glick. What the fuck? didn that's best but That's payback. That's payback.
Summer Tour Dates and Music Releases
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I was telling my girlfriend about you and, you know, introducing her to some of your music and stuff.
00:16:49
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And I was telling her about the the first time that that we promoted the first ever Women's Rock LA. And I was nervous because I was already nervous, you know, when you were my first female guest. So I was nervous.
00:17:03
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Then just a few weeks later, I've got three female musicians coming on and I was nervous. And I was like, yeah, right out the gate, Jules starts talking about BDSM clubs and and everything else. And I was like, yep, well.
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Nothing nothing to be worried about now. I'm just over here blushing, looking like an idiot. claws off guns off Let's go. Let's go. yeah So no, did I, did I hear you say in there, just kind of casually let it slip out. You go on tour soon.
00:17:39
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I do. I do. I have my summer summer pick-off. are doing um so which you play Thank you for playing something from Cathartica. It's a Sasquatch effect. It is.
00:17:54
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It is. it is um Thank you for playing off in the end off of Cathartica, the EP. I went on, we did a tour off of the EP in December, and that was really great. We did Vegas, Santa Barbara, um the Troubadour in LA, and the couple other spots. And then now we're doing a summer Cathartica.
00:18:17
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So we've got, excuse me, sorry. Oh, God. um Now we've got three dates in May all around SoCal. We've got three, potentially four dates in June around SoCal and a festival in July and a couple more dates in September. we're We're still adding some other ones kind of along the way, but we've got at least seven dates so far. So I'm really, really excited. Nice. That's awesome. Yeah. Yeah.
00:18:44
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Venture a little bit farther east. a little bit farther east. I know. I know. I know. Dude, get me get me some funding to just get everybody on a bus and fucking get to hotels and do the thing. like
Music Industry Challenges: EP Promotion
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That's the thing, man. It's like I've been fortunate where I've been able to find some promoters who – who were able to kind of cut some good good deals in terms of like, hey, I'll give you a little bit of like a guarantee and whatever. And because of that, that's honestly what's made the touring possible. Because like, I'm i'm sure you've heard about it before, but i hang on one second. yeah No, you guys can find the new EP if you haven't listened to it yet or heard it, or even if you're just being introduced to Jules for the first time. She's got it on YouTube and I believe Spotify.
00:19:31
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If I'm correct. I know it's on YouTube. All things. All the things. all the things um Spotify, Apple Music, Deezer, YouTube. Wherever there is music, it is there.
00:19:44
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Yeah, it is there. but No, yeah. So we we have some summer days coming up. And that's been kind of the thing with with touring, right? It's like, I'm, you know, like I was saying, I'm grateful that I've been able to partner with some promoters in the SoCal region who have been able to give me some kind of guarantees up front. You know, and I still like do my part to like promote it and sell tickets. Yeah, you found me, Mandy. Let's go. yeah. Hell yeah. hellie I hope you like it.
00:20:08
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um And so got all that down. And then, um, you know You've probably heard about this, that like the Tory industry has just been so, so hard. And like i you have acts dropping out from, like who God, who did I just see recently? Post Malone postponed his tour, couple other people did. i mean, fucking garbage just postponed theirs. Or not postponed, garbage. I actually saw them.
00:20:35
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And they were like, listen, we can't afford to tour in North America anymore. You know what i mean? Like, even for them, even for the Legacy Act, it's becoming absolutely wildly and um not sustainable. Now, you just had the... the um I don't know if you saw about the um the lawsuit with Ticketmaster and Live Nation. They just ruled on it recently. Yeah, I've been... ah You know, i I probably, as a music guy, should probably have been paying more attention to it. But I've seen it flirting around out there, and I've seen that they finally...
00:21:09
Speaker
got it all squared away or whatever. Yeah, so I got to look more into it. I got to look more into it. But um the the gist is that they they have there're they're saying that Live Nation and ticketck Ticketmaster have to divest from each other um And they have to basically break up a lot of their ah smaller companies.
High Costs and Legacy Acts in Music
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You have jell Jelly Roll. oh Yeah, that's the thing. That's the thing, too. So a number of these artists, and T-Pain is the one who said this. He was like, look, a lot of these artists are saying, like, oh, it's because of health or, oh, it's because I want to focus on recording.
00:21:42
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It's not. It's because of low ticket sales. PostyCat also did the same thing. you can't afford to go You can't afford to go to concerts in the minute. It's ridiculous. No. No, no, you can't. And then and on top of that, people like there just isn't really a culture anymore of like going to like local shows or indie shows, what have you. um um Instead, people are just like, OK, I'll just spend.
00:22:05
Speaker
a whole year's salary on a Taylor Swift ticket or Super Bowl or whatever. And so it's just really, really eating up the industry. It's just absolutely. um So the fact that I'm able to tour, even if it's like regionally for now, the fact that I'm able to do it sustainably, like work I can break even, I'm really, really blessed to be able to do that. um because that's the thing right like i have i have fans all around the country even other parts of the world and they're like oh my god come like come to florida come to new york and i'm like girl or my guy i would love to i would love to like can you get me so can you fly me there like can you get me like some sponsorships because that's ultimately what's going to come down to you yeah is is there a financial component right so um this this tour i've i've kept um
00:22:55
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like within like a two to three hour radius of l la so that i can make it a little bit more economically feasible because yeah and that's thing too is that i have i have three other musicians who play with me so i have um four but other musicians who play with me and i pay all of them and so that comes into the cost as well plus there's gas and with everything going on in the world gas is i mean bro i'm sure gas is crazy where where you are is like It's unheard of in LA. Okay. it's funny Think of what it is out there in LA for you guys. Cause I was just mad the other day. I stopped it. It was $5 and I've never seen it at $5. No, no dude. It's six 59 right now.
00:23:36
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out Yeah. Thank you Kayla for sharing my Instagram. You the best. That's there's my girlfriend slash producer. yeah ah She's, she's the real braids behind the business. Let's be honest. She really is. Let's be honest. let's Kayla's like, I make this bitch go round. three much It's no lie.
00:23:57
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We all know I'm a dumb animal. We all know. No, no, no, no, no. And on that, don't go see all these big ass acts. People should be going to see local bands and local music. That's what this show is all about. It's for you guys. Go see the... I'm telling you what, some of the best musicians out there right now and some of the best singers right now, in my opinion, and I've said this for years, not just now,
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Local
Cultural Changes and Technology's Impact
00:24:21
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music. You find a spot that you like close to home. ah We've got a couple venues here. I can't wait for this for us to finally get spring or summer or something. Ohio is retarded right now.
00:24:33
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I can't wait for it to warm up because there's a venue out in the country that I can't wait to take Caleb to go see some music because it's an outdoor bar and they bring in acts that are really good. There's one right down the road from us.
00:24:46
Speaker
It seems like every time somebody comes to town that I want to go see, though, I'm either doing a show or the kids are here. You know, it's i think it's a number of things that are, like, kind of contributing to this, like, sort of collapse or, like, this. does Not even collapse, but, like, I mean, potentially collapse of the live music industry is, like, you know there's the expense of it right the general cost of living that's gone up so there's the economic aspect of it but there's also i think a cultural aspect too that's been driven by advances in technology so like you know
00:25:22
Speaker
Like growing up, right? Like, you know, if you wanted to go hang out with your friends, if you wanted to go get a date, you would go out to a bar where there was live music playing. And that's how you would kind of find your new favorite sound or whatever. Like there there was a culture, you know, behind like vinyl and, you know, record releases and CDs and things like that. There was this whole, you know,
00:25:44
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you know, the culture really behind it. And then on top of that, you know, now fast forward, like, okay, I'm battling basically you just sitting in your underwear on your couch watching Netflix. Okay, so I need to convince you to get off your ass, get dressed, go pay for parking, pay for a ticket, and pay for a drink. And it's not, it could be like a 50 to a hundred dollar night on someone that you don't even know, you know? So like, it's, it's such a different, you know, and then, and on top of that, well, okay, I don't have to like do that to find, to, you know, find a date. I can go on Tinder. I can go on, you know, whatever. So it's such a different environment
AI's Impact on Music: Concerns and Thoughts
00:26:23
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and culture. And I, my hope is that,
00:26:27
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you know things like like whole the live nation um lawsuit um things like that are are hopefully exposing the holes and you know hopefully find like a reset button basically to be able to save this industry for indie musicians like myself to then you know be able to break through because like the other thing i'll say on this and then i'll get off my soapbox i promise because yeah The other thing I'll say about this is that um there used to be an A&R component, right? There used to be um people who would just literally their whole job was to go out, go to the clubs, go to the bars, go to the venues and just listen to music and find people who were like they have the raw talent. Like fine, they need to be molded, they need to be like corporate, they need to like, you know, be packaged up into like something that was sellable, but they had the raw talent.
00:27:17
Speaker
people don't do that anymore. They go on fucking Instagram or on Tik TOK and that's how they find people. And nine times out of 10, those people don't actually have an audience. They just go viral on one or two videos and they don't actually have like a career or even a library of songs behind them. So there's just so much that is like kind of against the indie artists right now. So I'm just grateful that like I have my own team behind me and that therefore I've been able to make this work. um as somewhat economically as I can. Now, you know, in the future, like I'm, my, my hope is that once I've done more of these tours that are self-funded, that I can then partner up with like a booking agency or what some other kind of management to then be able to say, hey look, I've already put in the work. I can do this. Like I have a ah product that works. Now I just need the backing to then get in front of bigger audiences or other audiences outside of the, know,
00:28:11
Speaker
SoCal area. So that's kind of where we're at. Yeah, get out, you know, be able to expand outside of your your your bubble because you're already showing that you're able to bring a crowd and bring an audience. And there's people that enjoy your music from all over the country, you know, yeah potentially all over the world at this point. And even, you know, the the cool thing you know, with all the music festivals is even getting, getting on board of one of those music festivals, you know, but just, you know, Hey, your name's on the poster with, you know, so-and-so and, so and got ah you know, and that you're going to be there.
00:28:51
Speaker
um Right. And I've talked to a few artists lately and that's kind of their goal. Like, yeah, I want to, I got the market here. We've got the fan base. Now I want to, hit a music festival we you know whether they're starting small and working their way up you know in and that way to get more exposure and and get out there a little bit more because and this kind i mean if i'm already going to go see you know disturbed and right and then oh jules is playing are oh yeah i'm definitely going to go see jules and you know some other bands that you have been on here well these guys are all playing
00:29:25
Speaker
and then And then at the end of the night is just disturbed. Absolutely. I'm already there. Now I get to see. Right. No, like, okay, cool. I'll come a couple hours early to see these other bands that I've heard of. Yeah, no. And that's, that's ideal, you know, is, is seeing, is being able to kind of,
00:29:42
Speaker
get some sort of an opening slot either on a tour or on a festival. i ah ah I'm fortunate that some of my, a couple of my dates are festivals, which is great. Like that's a whole other, you know, another caveat, it's a whole other audience. Like they're not just there for me, they're there like for other reasons, which is great because then I can hopefully then get new fans out of it. But, you know, that's, that's like,
00:30:05
Speaker
a lot of these A lot of these festivals now, though, they're they're like already owned by like you know big banks or big this, big that. um Or like on top of that, like
00:30:16
Speaker
I mean, i at the end of the day, like, and even even to get onto those festivals, it requires so much on the back end. Like, you have to have super high numbers. You have to have, like, you know, basically a track record of touring or a track record of this and that. And you have to have representation. And so even getting onto a festival like, you know, where Disturbed would play, like, it's it's it's it's harder than I think it used to be.
Authenticity and Live Performances
00:30:41
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And I think the other thing, too, is that they're just, they' you know, with a lot of these legacy acts,
00:30:46
Speaker
They would die off, quite honestly. They would die. They would just stop playing. They would just retire. They'd be like, all right, cool. I'm done. Now they're like, oh, shit. Well, um I can't make so much money anymore from streaming royalties or because it's streaming now as opposed to like TV and whatever.
00:31:04
Speaker
Uh, so now I have to keep playing in order to fund the music or to, to, to basically in order to, uh, fill the backlog of what I would otherwise be getting in music sales.
00:31:15
Speaker
And so these, and so these touring bands are staying around longer and longer, and they're not really opening up slots necessarily for the up and comers. Like there used to be this sort of like, okay, like, let me pull up this guy or this band to like to tour with me and that's just not happening to the same degree anymore so you're getting more and more of a like disparity between like the Taylor Swifts and like the local bands you do have some middle like middle the road people you know they're not really middle road they have like hundreds of thousands of listeners on Spotify but like There's still like middle enough where you're like, you might not necessarily have heard of them. And it's like, I mean, all time low has been saying shit like that. You know, all American rejects has been doing this house tour to like try to do something offsetting the venue. So it's, you know, you have some people calling it out. It's just a question of whether or not, or even how it could possibly change because so so much of it is just driven by
00:32:05
Speaker
greed It's money. It's all money at the end of the day. At the end of the day. That's the thing. At the end of the day, it's a business and it always comes back to money. It's the same thing with what I do with my shit. At the end of the day, I've got to be able make it work in order for me to tour, in order for me to release music, whatever kind of a thing. Now, a lot that does kind of in part depend on like, okay, your own investment, because you do have to invest. You have to invest in yourself. You to invest in your product in order to then get the money back. um
00:32:36
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You can't expect to make money if you won't invest in yourself. You know that as an entrepreneur and whatnot. Right. I'm still waiting on the making money part. I know. And that's the thing. It's like it can be. Right. No, I know. That's thing. It can be like delayed, dude. It can be fucking delayed as shit.
00:32:55
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So, yeah, now I know. I know I've been a bit of a downer so far in this podcast. I just been very top of mind for me. shes She's just coming off of a burnout. She crashed out. she's she's Exactly. Coming off of an industry burnout, it's fine. Well, wellll get you wellll we'll get you on another soapbox here. Mandy asked, and this has been something that I've been been asking a lot of guests. Mandy just beat me to the punch.
00:33:19
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Does AI worry you at all with the ah with the industry? That's a really great question. Yeah.
00:33:27
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I think that if i was just a songwriter and there's no like just oh you're just a songwriter but like if if I if I only was pursuing a career as a songwriter then I would be a lot more worried.
00:33:40
Speaker
um I am pursuing a career as a performer as a live you know artist that you go and that you see and that you experience so for me not really um i think it's bullshit i think it's a terrible thing and i think that you know like ai i'm not surprised that it's already kind of infiltrated our way i'm i'm not surprised at how scary good like some of the music is um i'm not surprised that like spotify is just casually making up ai artists and then putting into their playlists like um
00:34:15
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so but But overall, I would say I'm not worried about it. And I think the other thing, too, is that i think at the exact I've had a lot of conversations about this. And I think at the end of the day, um people crave authenticity. It's like,
00:34:30
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it's it's why like it's why social media has kind of changed so change so much and why like younger generations aren't really on it. Or if they're on it, I mean, that's not true. They're on it, but they're on it like in different ways or they're on different platforms, kind of a thing. Like no one in Gen Z is on Facebook. You know, Facebook is a lot of ads now. And even Instagram really on, you know, because Instagram just so many ads, so many ads, so many ads, you know? So like, I think people are kind of used to like being fed like marketing material, you know? So when they see something that's, real and that speaks to the human experience and that's like raw like that, I think that that is gravit has like its own kind of gravitational pull.
Creative Process and Authentic Songwriting
00:35:11
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So i long and short, short story long.
00:35:16
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God, sorry. Short story long, no, I'm not worried about it. because Now and that's something that we talk about all the time on this show and that's something that you're absolutely absolutely gonna get in jewels or when you go see her live and I've never got to see you live yet yet I say yet because it'll happen once yeah um um But I've seen videos and I've seen reels and stuff She's got her keytar and she is an animal on stage. You're going to get an absolute experience and you know
00:35:49
Speaker
and And I love the music, you know, but I didn't know that you were such an entertainer when I first had you on it was more like oh, all right, this chick is cool as hell. She makes some kick-ass music. And it wasn't until you kicked the door in on Clicks House of Music. It was just like, I'm here, bitches. And I was like, oh, God. But no, and watching you, you know, even from the first time you were on up until now, watching you grow as a performer and that stage presence you have, it's amazing. I mean, I've said it to some other artists, and I'll say it to you as well.
00:36:25
Speaker
I feel like watching that short little 60 second short reel or YouTube short or whatever you want to call them. I burned like 700 calories. just watching yeah um um like mean I'm just sitting here. the whole watching no that You're, you're not the first person to say that, which is a big compliment to me, right? Like if I may, if I, if I can get off the stage and make you feel like you just burned a thousand calories just by watching me and then you're exhausted, I've done my job.
00:36:55
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Well, and it's infectious because you can't help but want to be a part of it. you're And you're going to get the crowd involved. They're going to be jumping around. They're going to be singing with you. They're going to having a good time. And that's – you're not going to get that from AI ever.
00:37:08
Speaker
Exactly my point. No, that's exactly my point. and i And I really appreciate you saying that. And that's because because for me, yeah, music has to have soul behind it. Exactly. I think i think for me, you know, the music – It's, you know, why did we create music to begin with? It was to have a sense of community. It was to have community expression, you know, all that. um Yeah, man, in case you can't tell, I'm hacking up a fucking long over here.
00:37:30
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um
00:37:33
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I'm unfortunately getting over a lovely head cold. And i I thought that I'd be good. I thought that I would be cough-free, and then that's obviously not happening. That's okay. Blake's just going to have to...
00:37:45
Speaker
Grin and bear it, because here we go. That's the great thing about Glick's House of Music. It's real, it's raw, it's genuine, it's live, so whatever happens, happens. I don't edit shit. Glick is one of my favorites, so I didn't want to miss it. I was like, God damn it, I'm going to get better for this one. As better as I could.
00:38:03
Speaker
As better as I could. let please But, yeah. But yeah, no, and that's that's kind of thing, right? It's like I I believe that music kind of transcends into an experience and that's where the live component comes in.
Creating an EP: Collaborations and Themes
00:38:17
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And so, you know, for me, like, I know that, you know, I don't even know how I would recreate that, to be honest. Yeah.
00:38:25
Speaker
you know, I, that kind of live communal, cathartic, real, authentic experience. Like, I don't even know how it would do that. So like, for me, it's not really a threat from like the music side where it's like, Hey, check out my music. Like,
00:38:41
Speaker
yeah i could definitely see that now i will say i think that there's things that we can do as like creators and whatnot like for example like i'll never use ai as part of my songwriting process yeah um i i run a playlist on spotify called female rockers you need to know and i do it to highlight like from some of the you know the baddest babes that we've known for years like you know you know Haley from Paramore and Dorothy and Hailstorm and da da da da. And then I also use it to highlight some up-and-comers too.
00:39:15
Speaker
And I explicitly say on my profile on like SubmitHub, like, don't accept AI music. And I will go through it and I will check out the profiles to make sure that it's not AI. Because I've gotten those submissions. I even got i even got someone who DM'd me being like, hey, can you just like accept it anyways? like I know it's AI. I'm like, no, bitch. Like, literally no.
00:39:39
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Fuck off. There's plenty of stuff you can submit to. Like, no. yeah And that sucks for me because that makes my job as you know, doing this show harder because then I have to, there's, there's been some, some music I've come across and it's fooled me.
00:39:54
Speaker
I've gotten better about being fooled, but it's like, Oh man. And then you start diving in and it's like, son of a bitch. It's freaking. air but that's No, you can tell. i mean, like you can't, it's getting harder and harder to tell. Like I agree with you. Like I've heard I've heard somewhere. I'm like, shit, that's a good song. And then I'm like, yeah Fucking AI made it like like you know And even like, ah I wish it were real. I wish to God it were real.
00:40:20
Speaker
Like there's trends that you know go around where like like they'll make a text message or a song out text message thread. You're like, oh that's such a great song. And you're like, you used AI to do that, didn't you? okay oh yeah In the last and the last few weeks, I've probably had three of my friends. I've just seen one today.
00:40:42
Speaker
He messaged me. Hey, man, I'm a songwriter now. Oh, how are you? and show them muscle And I'm like, yeah, I'm a songwriter too. I've got six songs out already. Because, i'm I mean, I've done intros just for shows with AI. But, know, as I said, I'm not going to be a tool and be like, hey, you've been on my show. You want to write me an intro? You know, I'm just going to use it and do it real quick. and You know, but I'm like,
00:41:07
Speaker
You're not a songwriter. Stop it. Shut up. I've done this. I mean, i that's the thing. It's like, Like, oh, okay, are you really? It's like, because, you know, it's like with any craft, it's with any, you know, like with anything that you spend years and years doing, like if someone that just walks up to you and like, hey, I have a little dinky, dinky software that makes me do what you do.
Indie Artist Struggles and Networking
00:41:29
Speaker
And you're like, does it though?
00:41:31
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yeah it doesn't know The scary thing is that it's gotten better, right? Like, you know, I know of, I think it's Suno. I think that was the platform.
00:41:41
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um But like, you know basically there was this this guy who played an instrument and like there's only four people in the world who play the instrument really well and so he would get a lot of calls to do session work and then excuse me, one day he was working with a client who was like, hi, can you do this? And just send him like a wave file of that instrument.
00:42:06
Speaker
And it was like perfectly played. It was crystal clear, like no mistakes, nada. And the guy turned around and was like, it is physically impossible for me to play this instrument to that degree.
00:42:19
Speaker
Like, that's real. You know? And so so, it's scary in that, like, okay, like, i understand some benefits to it in that, like, okay, cool. Like, if I'm just, like,
00:42:31
Speaker
you know, ah a regular person with no musical abilities and I just want to write a song for someone but i because I have ideas and feelings and whatever and I want to write some, you know, maybe I don't have the money to pay someone. Maybe I don't have the resources or in the network to like, who do I pay write this song?
00:42:47
Speaker
Oh, okay, I'll just churn something like out on AI and it's a lot easier that way. So like, I understand the appeal it does take away jobs and, and, and yeah know um from like other actual songwriters. um But i understand, you know, that like times are tough. So like, if someone's like, Hey, I just want to bang this shit out real quick. Like I, I kind of get it economically, but it's it. I just, and I think the other thing too, and my husband is really into like,
00:43:17
Speaker
ah you know, day trading and just kind of following the the markets and whatnot. And, you know, he's been telling me a lot about like the the data centers that run ai And,
00:43:29
Speaker
they're they're they're powered by water, right? Like water cooling. And there's literally not enough water in the world to possibly power all the data centers that we would need to like continue to run a lot of this shit. So like, I just don't even know if it's gonna be that, if AI is gonna be this powerful for this long, yeah you know?
00:43:49
Speaker
like Like, I just don't think it's sustainable. So I think it's something that like, I mean, now obviously that could be wrong and the overlords that run the world are maybe like, hey girl, actually, But a but as I see it right now, i I think it's something that can be eventually like, okay, we literally can't sustain this for free or low cost. So therefore we're going to start charging for it. Oh, wait, the whole appeal is that it was free or low cost. Okay. Well then nevermind. So yeah I just, I just see it being something that I think hopefully, hopefully it goes away.
Career Growth and Industry Optimism
00:44:24
Speaker
Yeah. And, and, you know, and, and, you know, I use AI for, and mainly because in all honesty, it just makes it look better. And I don't have the the education or the know-how.
00:44:35
Speaker
I'll use them for like all the backgrounds and my promotional posters and stuff like that. But, right you know, I still have to put in, it's not like I can just magically snap my finger. I still have to put it in the work. I still got to go find a picture and be like, okay, hopefully my guests won't kill me for this picture, but I know I can get it to you picked a good one with this one. You picked a good one.
00:44:58
Speaker
I almost but went with one where you you were kind of at a rock star pose with your tongue hanging out. i was like, yeah, that'd be pretty funny. Typical. Both of those are very typical for me. Very typical.
00:45:12
Speaker
but ah But, you know, outside of that, i and and I don't pay for it. i'm not I'm a cheap bastard. I'm not paying for AI. I got the free version. i get three tries in 24 hours to get a poster right. If not, then I'm screwed. Yeah. No, and that and but that's thing. It's like, okay, but like you're willing to take that risk, and a lot of us are.
00:45:31
Speaker
You know? Like, okay, like i'll I'll suffer this one out. for and but but Because it's so, it's like stupid cheap or so or like free, and that's literally not sustainable for like the amount of water power that is needed to like make these things like long-term. So, I don't know i don't i you know. I don't know enough about all that, but that's sort of my general two cents on the role that I have. Like most things, it's a fad. It's going to run its course, you know, and eventually it's going to go away. And, you know, it's it's just you for artists for like you and other artists, unfortunately, you just got to keep doing what you do and wait for it to run its course, you know, because eventually everything does. It runs its course and then it something new and better comes out, you know. Right. I think we're in like such...
00:46:25
Speaker
like a crossroads in the music industry and in the world, but we don't need to get into that. um I just think we're such a crossroads where like things are, i feel like about to break.
00:46:35
Speaker
And my hope is that it, it breaks so that we can, we can reset. We can like, okay, like this is what wasn't working. We need to find something more sustainable that works. And so, you know For me, like my goal is just like to be sustainable like so that I can kind of blast through like all this nonsense. so you know Just yeah just rev survive the storm. Just survive the storm. That's all get. Oh, my God. Like, for real.
00:47:04
Speaker
Yeah, right? So, on to Better Things. The EP. Yes. The EP. um What was that like for you to put that out and get it worked on, which is great, by the way. I love it, obviously. I'm big fan everything we do. um but ah and I didn't even know that you were putting it out. I just i think YouTube sent me a notification. Hey! Sweet, Jules has got new music. Oh, this is not just a new song. i Yeah.
00:47:34
Speaker
Thank you. Yeah, no, it was it was it was awesome. ah The EP is um a collection of four singles I had released throughout the year, plus one new track. um And I had never released an EP before, so that was a big milestone, especially with this project. I've never done that. um And, you know, it it was very much um kind of the the culmination of, like, these these big songs that were really influential to this sort of changing point in my career as Jules in the Howl. Like I started to go a little more in the hard rock direction with also some kind of pop punk influences as well. um Like with In The End and Parent Trap and whatnot and really stepped into like even more of like my sound, my voice. And
00:48:24
Speaker
um I had a really amazing time working on the EP with my producer, Tom Chandler at Elite Recordings. He is my my big brother, one my best friends in the world.
00:48:37
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um Also had a lot of help on on writing the lyrics with my dear friend, Lynn Holmes. She also does a lot of ah content strategy for me and a lot of branding stuff on my social media. So I get some help there, thank God. um And she helped she's also an artist herself, so she kind of helped me with some of the lyrics and whatnot.
00:48:56
Speaker
And yeah, had some friends play on the EP. And then we had Zach St. John play on one of the tracks. We had Bruce Bain on one of the tracks. We had um Daniel Jakubovic. We had Adam Perry. like We had like a whole um like cast of people kind of playing on different different tracks, which was amazing. um So we had Boys Club, which was ah very much like, my producer goes to he's like, I want to write like a female empowerment song. and gety
00:49:27
Speaker
Let's go. So like the the intro was the first thing that came to me. Like, I want you to stand up. um like That just kind of came to me first. And then he just like, he just chugga-chugga on his guitar and then went for it aye So that was just awesome. And I loved having that anthemic, like, you know, like, falls to the wall, like, fuck you kind of song. Like, yeah, like yeah that was great. um So we had that one. and then we had, what was the one that happened?
00:49:57
Speaker
this is so bad. I have to look at my own fucking music. i'm like, when did, what's the order? What's the order on the EP? What is it again? It's fine. I'll find it. Yeah. um but yeah it's it's what okay in the end that was next one that's what i thought yeah so in the end uh that one meanwhile um was much more like like on the pop side a lot of sins a lot of like you know uh like harmonies and shit and that one i had i wrote because i wanted a song that was like
00:50:33
Speaker
God, I'm so tired of fighting this hard for my dream. But like in the end, like this is what I was meant to do. This is what I'm made for. And so I'm just going to keep going after it no matter how long it takes. And so that's always been my closer ah throughout the last like so tour and other shows that I've done. And it's a great kind of like anthemic, like sing-along song. I loved doing that. I worked with ah Ron Geffen on that one too. He was the co-producer for that one.
00:51:01
Speaker
um So then we have the parent trap. So the parent trap, oh man, that was one where my producer, he really pushed me. He was like, I want you to like really dig deep and be super vulnerable about something personal in your life. And I'm like, fuck. I write a lot about mental health, which to me, like I can kind of like separate it. Like, okay, this is, I'm writing about this, this person.
00:51:29
Speaker
mental health, like the anxiety, depression, which becomes like another person and becomes like a personification of those things. So I write about that and I can do that really well. And I don't, I haven't really written a lot about like my personal life. um You know, some singers are really into that and some aren't. And I've been like, I don't know how, how, you know, how much I want to blur this line.
00:51:50
Speaker
Yeah. How deep do I want to go? Yeah. But so the parent trap, it is, um, It is about choosing to love someone who believes something completely different than you, whether it's politically, religiously, um you know otherwise. And it's about that complicated relationship where, in this case, it was my parents, hence the parent trap, where we just have such different views on many things. And
00:52:20
Speaker
On the one hand, I was like, God, how can I reconcile, you know, the fact that like these are the people who raised me with their beliefs? I was like, I don't know. How's it going? Great question. Great question. it's, it's, you know, I i actually honestly writing the song was sort of part of my healing journey with that relationship. Cause I had people telling me like, you got to cut them off. Like you got to get them out of your life. Like that's so toxic. How dare, how could they possibly be in your life? And I'm like,
00:52:51
Speaker
bro it's not that simple that they're my parents like it's simple and so that's what i was trying to write about was like look like you know this is not easy for either of us especially for me like i feel confused and i feel disappointed but i also know that like i can't not have you in my life like i've tried i and i can't not um Like that's, you know, that's the thing. Like even like there have been times where like, yeah, like I wanted to like cut my mom out of my life or cut my parents out of my life. And like, I don't know what it is, man, but like my mom and my Nana, like that's my, her mom. So the three but three of us, we have this, like, I can't even explain it. Like we have this like thread between the three of us where like, it doesn't matter like where I go, like when I wanted to cut them out, like I can't, I just can't do it And so, you know, I'm like, okay, am i weak because of that? Am I a little bitch because of it? Like, like what's the problem here?
00:53:47
Speaker
And i just decided, I was like, no, like, this is just, it's not a black and white issue. It's not a black and white relationship. And, and you know, I'm choosing to like, love you despite,
00:53:58
Speaker
yeah All of these things that I do not understand. Sometimes it's the bigger picture at the end of the day. you know i that's That's what separates us from but the animals. At the end of the day, you can have different opinions or different views. or you know I'm like that with a lot of people.
00:54:17
Speaker
I may not necessarily agree with some of the views and opinions that you have about the world and about people, but you know especially with with with artists and and like comedians and stuff like that.
00:54:28
Speaker
I don't have to. i can still enjoy the art. That's what I'm here for. but but yeah no. And that's the thing. like i just I don't think it's black and white. I think there's a lot of gray. because it's like you know Again, it's like, okay, my parents tend to align with this belief system.
00:54:47
Speaker
Therefore, are they bad people? right and i And I think a lot of people would say, yes, they are bad people. But Here's the thing, man, I came from them.
00:54:59
Speaker
You know what I mean? So, like okay, does that make me a bad person? like does that you like it's just It's not cut and dry like that. like It's just not. And so that was why I wanted to write a song kind of exploring that really complicated relationship. like you know like my The chorus is like, I don't understand how can you love a man like that? you know How everything you said to me wasn't supposed to be, but It's all right, because I don't give a damn. Like, I don't care. Like, all right, let's just do it.
00:55:28
Speaker
yeah At the end of the day, you know they're you know, and especially in this situation, they're still your parents. And, you know, regardless of belief systems, they're still gonna love you. I mean, hell, I'm a dad. My oldest daughter may do things that I don't necessarily agree with or don't like. And I'm sure I do things that she doesn't like. But right I'm still going love her no matter what, you know, when she moved out.
00:55:49
Speaker
you know, and she acted like she could never come back. I'm like, you know, this is always your home. yeah you Life sucks when you're an adult. And sometimes the world will kick you right in dick for no reason other than the fact that you have divorce. As I told her, was like, you always have a home here, dude.
00:56:11
Speaker
regardless of how you feel about me right now. Right. No, and and that's and that that support, that unconditional support and love, I think that's kind of what I was trying to get at.
00:56:23
Speaker
You know, like, you know, all right, there's some things that, like, you're gonna say that'll piss. And, like, but at the same time, like, I think it's important to, like, have boundaries with each other. Like, hey, these are things that, like, we really can't talk about. Okay? Like, we just don't.
00:56:38
Speaker
We can't. like like is not goingnna It's going to devolve into a screaming match and tears. And and i I don't cry very easily, apart from me tearing up earlier. i earlier yeah so um I don't cry easily, but I, God, it's a switch when it comes to my family. like Anything that happens my family, I'll cry immediately. so I'm like, all right, let's have some ground rules, have some boundaries. like look There are things that we can and cannot talk about. There are people, like,
00:57:14
Speaker
in my life that I won't speak to you anymore because it's like it's not serving me. The relationship isn't serving me. And, you know, it's it's doing nothing but like making me feel like shit. So it's like, okay, I don't need that relationship in my life. So, like, let me just do that.
00:57:28
Speaker
So that's the parent trap. So then I wrote ah My Turn. My Turn, I actually wrote, believe or not, with a buddy of mine named Ian Rotner. He's from Chicago. I'm from Chicago originally.
00:57:42
Speaker
um And he and I wrote it during COVID. And we put it out and it was great. We loved it. But, you know, looking back on it, like I was, I was like, I really wish we had kind of given this another pass, like production wise. And I wish we had done a couple other things differently, and whatever, whatever. And so I reached out to him and he's such a chill dude. I was like, dude, like, do you mind if I take this to my producer? And we just kind of,
00:58:06
Speaker
re-release it, you know rework it a little bit. And he's like, yeah, go nuts. I don't care. I'm like, yes. um Which does not happen very often. like he and I kind of had that were like casual relationship, so like it was good. um And yeah, Tom took it and we added another verse. We had like um you know like a of different guitar solo, things like that. And we re-released it. And my turn is, um you know, all I want to know is when's it going to be my turn? Like when, you know, again, like I write a lot of songs about like, God, I'm struggling. When is it going to be? I feel you. I feel you. How much longer do I have to put up with this shit? When when do I get a break? When does that one?
00:58:51
Speaker
When does those one ears or those one set of eyes catch? That's what I'm doing. And then it's finally, okay. And then it's finally okay. And it's finally acceptable. And like, oh, you're you're let in from the gatekeepers, whatever it is. yeah um So yeah, that was that. um The last song on the EP, this is the one that um hadn't been released previously. um It's called ah Goodbye, Ride or Die.
00:59:16
Speaker
And so talk about emotional. That is the most vulnerable song I've ever written. Apart from Parent Trap, that this is the most vulnerable song. m It is about... um ah It is about saying goodbye to my childhood best friend.
00:59:33
Speaker
And... i don't I don't know about you. I believe that friendship breakups are so much more painful than relationship, romantic relationship breakups.
00:59:47
Speaker
There's just so much there. There's so much drama and and faith broken and trust broken. And like, you know, I feel like they're not talked about enough. Like friends like just how how awful and painful friendship breakups can be.
01:00:01
Speaker
um and This girl was someone who like, I like, I thought she's gonna be my maid of honor. Like we were friends since like, we were like 14 or something. And then, you know, it was kind of rocky here and there. Then like, she moved out to LA before I did.
01:00:18
Speaker
and uh i when i did finally come out to l a like i just heard crickets man like i knew her and one other person and that was it when i moved out to la and i you know yeah and i moved out like a month before my birthday so i was like hi i'm in la you want to celebrate my birthday because i don't know anybody um complete crickets like totally ignored me you know i just i never really heard from her uh and uh so i you know, it it was sort of that song that was about sort of wrestling with the fact that I'll never get closure to like, why?
01:00:55
Speaker
yeah one Yeah. What the hell? You know? Yeah. no And there had been other, you know, friendships in my life where like, they had kind of either exploded or like just dissipated. and I was always like, Oh my God, like, is it me? Like I thought I'm, I like to think I'm a pretty loyal, good friend. Like, I don't know what it is. And I think part of it is that like, you know, when I was a kid growing up, I didn't really have a lot of friends. And so I just sort of grabbed people to hang out with.
01:01:24
Speaker
and Chick was one of the people I was just like, here, we can be friends now. And it's like, so you know what I mean? Without really vetting it per se. Yeah. you know And there was this there was this like pressure you know growing up where like you know you see it on TV, how everybody has like a group of best friends, and they're best friends life, and you know like whatever whatever, and they all have boyfriends, and they're all popular, whatever. So literally thought that I needed to have that kind of life in order to be happy.
01:01:51
Speaker
so I was like, shit, let me grab some people to be friends with. So I did that, and consequently, too, like... You know, my mom is such a loyal friend. My mom is like, like ride or die, I'll be there, I'll show up, like whatever.
01:02:06
Speaker
um and so I thought that that was how friendship was like in general. Like I didn't realize that not everybody views friendship that way. And that that's the kind of behavior that you reserve for like your close circle.
01:02:20
Speaker
You know what I mean? I didn't realize that. I thought that was just you show up and show our for everybody. you know and well consequently i got hurt a lot because i had a lot of expectations i think were just not realistic but with this one particularly i was like girl like you were my best friend for like 10 15 years like i don't i genuinely don't know what happened so this song was me sort of writing the goodbye that i never got to say to her that i never got to like experience um but yeah and then overall the album you know
01:02:56
Speaker
So cathartic is is one of the words that i use so to sc describe my music, right? Cathartic, theatrical, anthemic. And you know cathartic to me, it's like, it's the release of everything that's kind of pent up inside of you. And I wanted, for for my EP, I wanted to have a word that like really embodied that.
01:03:16
Speaker
And i was like laying in bed one night and i and I kind of thought about, I'm like, is cathartica a word? If not, it is now. And so I looked it up and it's, I forget the full Latin name, but it is actually part of a flower's name. Like it's cathartica something. And it's like the opening of a flower basically, which totally makes sense. um But the word on its own is not used. So I'm trademarking cathartica. Thank you so much. Right.
01:03:46
Speaker
right Cathartica is like the place that is like like where the embodiment of being cathartic and having that release is. um Yeah, it was a really special EP and um I'm very blessed with everybody that I got to work on it with from the writers to the producer to Tom, my producer. to the musicians that played on it. Like, I'm very, very grateful. And I think it was very much the statement that I needed to make ah with that music. So, yeah, I'm proud of it.
01:04:18
Speaker
Look at you getting all soft and squishy and vulnerable in your older age. You have feelings, Jewel. have feelings. I'm not just like hardcore rock. Rawr.
01:04:33
Speaker
yeah no And boy kid of course i have feelings. No, I love it. I think that's great. You know, it's when you, when you've got so much pent up and bottled up and and you can finally do something and it just kind of release out all that shit and get it off your chest. It, I don't know, in my opinion, and I'm no expert. I mean, I'm just a big dumb animal on a podcast. You know, it helps you grow and it helps you mature. and and and in And you'll find that, I mean, at least for me, you know, doing this with everything that's gone on, the more that I let things
01:05:16
Speaker
out and release and and and move on from it, the better I get doing these shows as a host. yeah And it can happen for you, you know, make making you, and as I said, from the first time you were on here to now, it's it's been a crazy journey watching how much you've you've grown just in a short couple of years span as an artist and and and kind of found who you are and what you are. And you speak to every time. I mean, I seen your reel the other day. You were roller skating. down the but but like What is she doing? Oh, my God, dude. i The amount of times I fell on my ass doing those videos.
01:05:54
Speaker
Oh, my God. I had i had my my two friends, Tom and Lynn. They were helping me film. Basically, I'm like, Thomas, like, ah you can't see him, and and but he's out of frame going like this, like, trying to catch me if i'm if I somehow fall on my ass again. And I, oh, my God, i like, I ate so many times, dude. Like, it was it was bad, but it was worth it. I got the content. I got the content, you know? That's all that matters. it' a it matters for the All for the gram. It's fine. yeah All for the gram are good. It's fine. It's totally fine. yeah Totally worth it. Hashtag worth it. worth it that' thats part of that I guess that's part of that starving artist that I didn't tell you You're going to have to bust your ass multiple times on the phone.
01:06:40
Speaker
Yeah, just flush your ass a few times on the Santa Monica Pier. Nobody's watching. Nobody you know nobody noticed it. ah The best thing, though, was that doing it in l L.A., doing it and'm like in Santa Monica and like the Venice Boardwalk, like I was the least like weird thing that people saw.
01:07:00
Speaker
yeah it's like like Yeah. Yeah. This is the purple hair and a keytar on roller skates. Like day in the life, literally day in the life. Like it was fucking terrible. Yeah. Yeah.
01:07:11
Speaker
At least the keytar survived the multiple falls. Thank God she did. i i hit her i hit her neck once and I was like, oh, fuck, this is it. This is it. okay i Thank God she's she's okay, right, baby? She's like, don't deal to me again. I'm like, I'm sorry. yeah she's She's not her. real man she's little I actually got um purple keys for her recently. They're kind of purple. I don't know you tell. They're this lighting, but yeah i i had such a hard time like being able to see
01:07:50
Speaker
being able to see what i was doing not well it Dude, my keytar stand broke, so like I'm free-burdening it right now with this. Oh, no. Oh, God, it's fucking horrible. And like the worst part is that like there's only one keytar stand in the entire world like for this keytar.
01:08:10
Speaker
So like I have to fucking, yeah, i gotta eat it and eventually fucking go buy a new one. It's fine. But... Anywho. um But yeah, no, got her new new purple key since I last saw you. and she's She's got a little upgrade. She's lovely, but she's still... Yeah, well, and you had to go with the person. Obviously.
01:08:30
Speaker
Obviously. yeah i'll I'll do something with the blade eventually. i just don't know what yet. um like I know some people who like have it like custom painted and all that. And I'll probably do something like that at some point. Oh, I know I brought it up. So I wanted to change the color of the keys because like I had such a hard time seeing the keys because they were all black under the stage. like Because there's not really...
01:08:55
Speaker
a lot to work with when you're actually on stage. There's a lot of glare, shadows. And so I'd be like, not it up what is it? I can generally feel my way around. It's like, okay, like I kind of know where I am, but it's like, shit, like I need to be able to, because that millisecond for when you're switching over, like it counts. you know like When you're down and when you have to switch parts, whatever, like it counts. And so i was like, all right, gotta make this easier for myself. So that's why switched her over and she's been better for me ever since.
01:09:25
Speaker
Better for you. You got to get some, like, little LEDs or something on there. I know. I know. I know. um That's the thing and I have to think about because, it's like, I can be kind of, like, a little OCD about, like, what, like, would distract me potentially.
01:09:41
Speaker
Like, ooh, pretty lights. Oh, shit, have to play right now. You know what i mean? Like, that could absolutely be something that I do. um so like, I'm kind of like, two out do I want to go through that? Do I want to put myself through that? I don't know. um So that's why might I might just like paint it with like some purple and silver or some shit. and by i i'm I'm not painting it. I'm definitely not painting it. I would i would hire someone to paint. That's the thing. When you are an indie artist, it is so important to, if you can't learn it yourself, which I don't think you should, if you yeah don't think you should learn every single skill imaginable, learn the things that are used to you, and those that don't, hire someone to do it. It's called networking, you know? You're buying people in the community. Right.
01:10:25
Speaker
Do some trade-offs, like, hey, I'll do this project for you if you could do this for me. I've done that before, too. No harm, no foul. But it's like, that, you know, I will fuck this up.
01:10:36
Speaker
So why should I do it twice when I could do it once and do it correctly? Yeah, exactly. Don't you have a wedding coming up Do you need a wedding singer? You're a great artist. Listen, I can knock off couple bucks off this other thing if you want to just... Yeah, right. I've absolutely done that. I've even done trades like...
01:10:58
Speaker
like I've done like administrative trades. okay like we like because i'm I'm actually really good with spreadsheets. like I'm super organized. I am the very rare type A musician in that I'm super organized. like I got Google Drives full of all my music and all the chords and lyrics and shifts. and Whenever I have to like hire like a sub-musician or whatever, I'm like, here you go, done, boom. like You got all the shit you need. and so um like Recently, I did a trade with my producer. I was like, okay,
01:11:28
Speaker
i will catalog every single piece of gear and instrument that you own in exchange for this and he was like i will never do this so done but but like i'll sit down with you i'll be like and what is this guitar called okay lovely and what is this and how much is it great it was we were trying to like you'll get to figure out how much of an insurance policy he would need yeah exactly um that's the other thing. Musicians, get the fucking insurance.
01:11:58
Speaker
okay like I have Music Pro insurance. It's like a couple hundred bucks a year. It is so worth it. I have every single piece of gear that I own and it's like 12 grand or so worth of gear over the years.
01:12:11
Speaker
Worth it. fuck do Just get the damn insurance. it's it With insurance, it's it's it's still going be a hit, but it's not going be as big of a hit if you have to replace something or you know god forbid you break the neck on your keytar because you're trying to make an Instagram reel down at the pier.
01:12:29
Speaker
And that's the thing. It covers like you know theft. It should cover damage as well. Because shit happens, especially when you're out on the road. i mean How many times have you like seen on Facebook or whatever, like, oh, got my van broken into, or oh, got our trailer broken into.
01:12:45
Speaker
like Shit happens. That was the thing, dude. When I was on tour in December and I was like staying in hotels, I was like... Hell to the fuck no am I leaving anything in my car. I do not care.
01:12:57
Speaker
I will haul that shit in every night and haul it out in the morning. Fuck that. like It can stay. I don't care how crowded my hotel room is. like No, all my shit is going to be right in the corner where I can see it. like Fuck that. Absolutely not.
01:13:11
Speaker
that Not only that, but you never know what could happen. wait yeah i've I had a band on here. we were there Their first festival gig, they were an Ohio band. ah They didn't have shit wired properly.
01:13:23
Speaker
So like an amp or something blew and it fried. something They had a fill-in bass player for the for the gig, fried his freaking bass. And it was just like, what the fuck? yeah like And that was just on the on the venue, or the promoter whatever. they They screwed up with wiring and you know You never know what could happen. So, yeah. you yeah So true. Now it's become ah an insurance and an insurance infomercial. Get insurance on your ship. Right. Where's our sponsorships? Where's our sponsorship? I wish I would have had computer insurance. What, last year, a year, a year and a half ago, something that, my stupid-ass bro-ster was over here and dumped beer all over my laptop right in the middle of a ship. Oh, God.
01:14:06
Speaker
And I'm like, ah ah fortunately, it was a Saturday night show. So wasn't that important. I just jumped on my phone and did the show to finish out. And then he's like, I have an old laptop.
01:14:16
Speaker
Thank God you have a laptop. Dude, no, I mean, your laptop, it has like your whole fucking life on it. Are you kidding? yeah Oh, my God. That's why like I'm so paranoid and I just put everything in the drive because, like, God forbid. It's like, all right, everything's good.
01:14:30
Speaker
It's fine. i so I'm so technologically retarded. i need to i need to find somebody that can handle all my social media, all my computer stuff. It'll do an unpaid internship here on the network and just do it all for me for free.
01:14:45
Speaker
but You've been doing it enough where you have like the media credit. like Absolutely. You could get some kind of like college intern. No problem. you like like Do the admin shit and organize some shit. yeahll Let him be on the podcast a little bit here and there and like whatever and then he'll be fine.
01:15:02
Speaker
i am such an animal. I believe in what I call organized chaos. I think it was about
01:15:11
Speaker
seven, eight months ago, I realized... Because I was i was writing my guest and the date down in a notebook when I was first doing it. I think it was seven, eight months ago that i saw that I realized, oh, I can use my calendar on my phone to...
01:15:25
Speaker
I didn't care.
Organizing Life with a Phone Calendar
01:15:26
Speaker
yeah go Everything. Are you kidding me? i live by this thing. this this is caught This is my life right here. like My calendar, like my messages, like my documents, like everything is in my phone. like well they and i And I have to be like, it's in the calendar. Otherwise, it's not going to fucking happen. It's literally not going to happen. Or going to forget and I'll be that asshole. You'd be like waiting for me to being like, all right, where is this bitch? I don't know what the fuck
Booking Guests for a New Show
01:15:54
Speaker
happened. oh there's jewels on at right she so she's the problem now She's got her EP out and a couple of She's big now boy she got big head now.
01:16:06
Speaker
so no i all that thing oh my god it it is It is a very helpful
Hosting Differences: Comedians vs. Musicians
01:16:13
Speaker
tool. like We were talking backstage with the new show that I'm doing now. It's wild to me. And I'm still booking guests. I'm i'm booked all the way through September with with comedians.
01:16:22
Speaker
That's incredible, dude. Congratulations. I'm like, hey, I want to book you, but I just want you to know it's going to be like September. Is that okay? They're like, yeah. What day? Give me a date. I'm like, oh, okay. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. That's awesome.
01:16:38
Speaker
That's so awesome what you're Now, do they, okay, do they do stand-up? No, probably not. like um i So I wanted to do that at first, ah but much like this show, a lot of trial and error.
01:16:51
Speaker
and And before I got to that stage, I was like, you know, the unfortunate thing with comedians is they need that instant live show. every action and and gratification or whatever, and they're not going to get it from one guy.
01:17:05
Speaker
So it's basically the same thing we do here. I just have them come up. We talk about what they're doing, their career, you know, and just kind of hang and shoot a shit. It's the same concept as this show, just with comedians and not musicians.
Comfort in Performance and Podcast Flexibility
01:17:17
Speaker
So that's great. I feel like that's a lot less pressure for them too. It's like, have to perform, you know? um Cause like I've, I've done some podcasts where like I had to perform whenever I'm like,
01:17:29
Speaker
You know, like, to your point, like, it's just not the same, one. yeah But two, I think it's also, like, circumstantial, what mean? because like, for music, it's like, okay, if you're an acoustic singer-songwriter, sure, yeah, that can translate. I am not. I mean, I've done acoustic sets, but, like, it's just not the same effect, you know? So, like, it just, it wouldn't be, personally. But, you know, not to say that I would never do it, but just it's just a different vibe.
01:17:55
Speaker
No, and i and I never wanted to be that guy where it's like, so you're going to come on and I need you to sing at least two songs. I've had musicians come on here and sing. um Excuse me. I have one kid on here, just a baby.
01:18:09
Speaker
He was like 20, just turned 21, something like that. And it was the first podcast he was ever on. So he was sitting there. We were five, ten minutes in, and he was kind of, you could see the nerves. And it was hard to get a conversation out of him. And we had talked backstage beforehand, and i mean he was kind of fidgeting with his guitar. And I was like, would it make you feel better if you if you did a song?
01:18:32
Speaker
He was like, can i Yeah, do a song. He did an acoustic song on the show, and then from that moment on, we were good. I've had other artists that ask me backstage, hey, is it cool if I do a song?
01:18:44
Speaker
If you want to, you don't have
Research for Meaningful Conversations
01:18:46
Speaker
to. But, yeah, I mean, i I'm not going to tell you no, but I'm not going to ask you. No, I love how open forum yours is. Yours is very much like a hang, which I really appreciate.
01:18:57
Speaker
It's very like hang. much like we were talking about with with like your music and stuff like that, I think it's real. I think it's genuine. It's authentic. Just to come up here and and shoot to shit.
01:19:08
Speaker
We're going to get to know... i mean, I don't want to be that guy that's like, so, my notes say here, You graduated from Juilliard. oh You've been playing the cello since you were four. Yeah, like yes parts yeah yeah you yeah have like my whole ass resume in front of you. That's always fun.
01:19:27
Speaker
the one hand like I think it's good to do your research, do your due diligence, right? like you know like i would like You obviously you already know about me, but it's like, okay, it's kind of good to a little bit of that, but if you're like, oh, so then here's your whole resume, and I'm like, well, then what are we talking about? Liz, I...
01:19:43
Speaker
I've seen other podcasts where guys literally print out their like their website, and then they just start reading their bio. And I'm like, well, you didn't have to have them on to do that. You could have just read their bio and said, hey.
01:20:00
Speaker
I do enough research that i know I know some of the music, because obviously that's the first thing that catches my attention when I'm scrolling social is is the music.
Communication Challenges in Scheduling
01:20:09
Speaker
ah And then i go and look into their catalog and listen to some of their music and do enough research so that I'm not coming on here a complete idiot.
01:20:18
Speaker
But i'm I'm here. I'm a fan. I'm just, that I'm a fan just like anybody who's watching and i want to learn about you with everybody else. So I'm going to ask some questions and kind of navigate the the conversation as much as I need to. But outside of that, you guys are going to talk about yourselves as much as I let you at the end of the day. It's true. I was monologuing for a good portion of this on my sofa. No, i it's my job easy. I just got to sit here and look pretty. Yeah, because you're like, I just got to, you know, get my beard going and I'm good. Just keep talking. Yeah, you do that. You do that.
01:20:56
Speaker
That's another product got get on here is someone that does like the beard wax or some shit. You'll do perfect. Man, I had talked to one company and then they just decided that they forgot how to use emails and stuff like that. I don't even care. at this point do right it it makes no It's so funny working with venues. it's like I work with some venues where they're like so on it with the email or the DM. and Then i have some where it's like, I won't hear back for like two months. and They're like, oh, did you want to play still? I'm like, well, no, motherfucker. i filled the day. like
01:21:33
Speaker
no Yeah, like, what are you doing? No, yeah. I'll get that with with guests. ah you know and
01:21:46
Speaker
Especially musicians. Like i said, the comedians, I'm going to have to start beating off with a stick. you know Because they are just kicking my door in. But musicians, be talking to one and I'll give them a couple dates and then they just don't respond for three, four, five days.
Timely Communication in Business
01:22:01
Speaker
And I'm like,
01:22:02
Speaker
well, I'm not going to sit around and hold this date for you when I've got another, you know, guest that I could potentially have on. And then they finally respond. It's like, well, that date's not opened up anymore. So we can do this date.
01:22:15
Speaker
Well, well, come on I'm like, dude, we've been talking. I've been waiting for you, you know, like, off no, I think that people don't understand, um you know, and musicians, musicians can be the worst when it comes to business people. I'll just say that. Yeah.
01:22:32
Speaker
they don't realize that it's a business, right? That communication is extremely important and that like timeliness with your communication is extremely important. And like, you know, case in point, like I, I was going to do a date May 15th and I,
01:22:47
Speaker
i took a little bit longer for various reasons to get back to them than i normally would um and then when i finally get back he was like i'm sorry it got filled and i'm like right cool let's find another day like you know i'm like all right that's on me took longer than normal to get back to you because i had some things to figure out and all right great and then we found another date and then happy as a clam yeah exactly It's not like I shouldn't be coming to being like, well, what the fuck, Glick? like you gave what like No, like we never wrote it down. We never confirmed. Nah, dude. like it's it's it's It has to go both ways when it comes to like respecting someone's time. Similarly, I'm dealing with a venue right now where like I've been trying to like confirm with them for like weeks now. like
01:23:34
Speaker
So are we doing this date? Yeah, Yeah. I need to know for a very amount of reasons. Like, yeah confirm that my my players are available. If not, I need to get subs. I need to then, you know, plan a lot of other things accordingly. So, like, is this happening?
Juggling Personal and Professional Life
01:23:54
Speaker
Like, it's so fucking annoying. It's like, guys, get your shit. I i can't.
01:24:00
Speaker
I know. And it's like, oh, man, I try so hard because I know I get busy. I get busy i mean, i was... hurt was literally having a conversation with a comedian and I'm having on at the end of August, and we're just chatting today.
01:24:14
Speaker
But at the same time, like i'm I'm trying not to be rude to him, but I'm trying to set this studio up. We were getting ready to eat dinner, and I'm like, all right, dude, i i I don't mean to be rude, but I got to cut this short. We'll have, you know, all the time. We can talk more.
01:24:31
Speaker
Before we get to all of this, we'll have plenty of time to talk on the show. And I'm a big one, and you know this. Obviously, you know this. I'm big one. I love having guests back, especially the ones that are fun. Sure.
01:24:42
Speaker
you know and I've been doing it a lot lately with with former guests, you know just bringing them back because you guys are doing a lot. And you know things change from the first or second time you've been on here, or maybe you got something new coming out that you want to promote. Like, yeah, come on, let's go. Right.
01:25:01
Speaker
Right, exactly. like I yeah yeah hit you up. I was like, yo, I got a tour coming up. I want to talk about it, and I want to talk about it with you. And you're like, great. Get me up right in the middle of a Saturday night show. i'm like, sorry, I'm a little drunk right now, but you're getting voice know, that was great. I was great. You're like, I'm pretty sure it's a yes. I'm like, it's fucking no.
01:25:22
Speaker
Oh, man. That's the thing. I'm always like, i'm like always like oh, yeah, right. Because sometimes i'm just I'm on a roll, and i'm like it doesn't matter. I don't even remember what day or time it is. I'm like, oh, right. It's like 10 o'clock on a Saturday. like No one's going get back to me. But like I'm on a roll, so like i'm doing I'm getting shit done. And you're like, yo, girl, I'm on a show right now.
01:25:41
Speaker
And I'm like, oh, my bad. My bad. Go do your thing. Okay, okay. I'll see you later. Whatever.
Setting Boundaries for Personal Growth
01:25:46
Speaker
What up, Kier? What are you doing? What Lolly? Yeah, no. Saturday nights are easy for me to, again,
01:25:53
Speaker
My panel makes it great for because don't have to do a lot of work unless they're acting out of pocket and then I got to rein them in like a bunch you know, retarded monkeys at a zoo. I'm like, all right, all right, tighten it up, tighten it up. We got to wind down. We got to wrap this thing up as long as this has been for the last six hours. I got I got to sleep.
01:26:14
Speaker
I got to get, got to get my ducks in a row. Oh my God, dude. i so Half of them are missing at this point. So. right You're like, because it's a hang. It's a hang at this point. It's like, all right, we're all here and like whatever kind of thing.
01:26:27
Speaker
Yeah. Like last Saturday. Yeah, last Saturday. i Last Saturday, they got to see me and I got a little upset and it was ah it was a long overdue um aggravation release, I guess you could say, and the panel got real quiet.
01:26:47
Speaker
And just kind of let me unload on the person I needed to. And then they were like, about time, Glick. Good job. Good job. They were like, we know you've had that on your chest. Well done. yeah You've been nice for way too long. Good job, buddy. Oh, the team. You know, former members of the network. Sometimes they like to show their ass still. Wow.
01:27:14
Speaker
and i and and and And I'm sure you've been down this. I mean, we've all been down this road before. um and you know People like to you know paint an image of you as being a villain and being a bad guy. And finally, you get pushed far enough where it's like, all right, you want the villain? Right. There you go. That's the thing. i I feel like a lot of people, are when they meet me, they're either...
01:27:40
Speaker
like they think I'm super sweet and kind and like loving and open or they're super intimidated by me. Like it's, it is one of the other. It's like you either like, yo, like I love Jules. I love her energy. Or like that bitch is fucking crazy. Like it's one of the two. So I'm like, yeah. Yeah.
01:27:57
Speaker
so i'm like yeah Yeah, now you got it. You keep poking and poking. You want to poke? You want poke, motherfucker? Okay. I will poke your ass right back. like i And i just I just don't care. and I just don't have time anymore. You know what I mean? it's like I feel like as you get older, especially, you know you get more comfortable with the genes that you're in, so to speak. And it's like, okay, these are things I'm going put up with. These are things that I'm not. And like I'm cool enough with my circle that like...
01:28:26
Speaker
you know, I don't need to like worry that I'm like trashing it or trashing myself. You know, I'm just being trashing myself and maybe I'm speaking out more in times that I normally wouldn't have. And I've noticed that with other people as they get older too. They're like, I just have less and less time for the bullshit.
Influence of Age and Experience on Tolerance
01:28:41
Speaker
Less and less. I say it all the time. Yeah. I'm only 45 years old. I guess I'm, I guess I'm turning into the grumpy old man. I don't know. You know?
01:28:52
Speaker
I get, no, like when I turned 30, dude, fucking game changer. Okay. Because it was like, I just felt so like, I'm 30. Like, yeah. yeah content I'm like, like, I was like, I'm, I'm feeling my bad self. Like, yeah.
01:29:10
Speaker
I just, I just like, I just cared about so many, so much, so much less stuff, you know? Yeah. Shut up. Yeah. Wally's the other member. He does his motorsports shows. Pierce, that's that's one of my best friends. We've been friends since seventh grade, but I don't even remember being 30. I'm so mad at you right now for being so young still. but thirty I'm 32 now. I'll be 33 in June. Oh, God, you're so You're going have to hang up that guitar soon. You're getting old. It's my day.
01:29:40
Speaker
one day, I'll have a guitar.
01:29:44
Speaker
I'll be using the key towers like a fucking a fucking like cane. I'll be like, back in my day! i'm like, I don want to wear some more teeth, the key tower or me at this point. Who knows?
01:29:55
Speaker
No, yeah, no. i think, you know, once... I think we all reach that point in our lives. I don't know if it's an age thing or what it is where we're just boundaries. Like you said earlier, you set boundaries and and I don't... Stop trying to disturb my peace, damn it. Like...
01:30:13
Speaker
I'm trying to do something over here. I don't have time for your childish ass bullshit games. I'm not saying me personally. I'm just saying people in general are like, I'm just, yeah you know, we're just over it. And, and, and now, you know, we get a little grumpy and a little, a little aggravated. Now we're going to speak our, you know, speak our truth and say our piece and move on.
01:30:32
Speaker
Exactly. No. And like, you, you, you just, that's the thing. It's like, you you truly get to a point. You're like, okay, Like I've had enough and like with me too, it's like, I, you know, of like was saying earlier, how I treated every friend as if they were on the same level, like super high up, super close. I was like, look for my peace of mind. And for my like sense of self worth, like I need to like demote people, you know what I mean?
01:30:56
Speaker
So it's not that like they're a shitty person. or that they're a bad friend, it's like, hey, let me put them in like an outer circle. yeah like They're just not as good of a friend. They're a good friend, not a good friend. you know They're like an an acquaintance. you know, or they're like a colleague in the industry kind of a thing. So, you know, therefore I expect less from them too. So then when they pleasantly surprise me, you know, like it's great. So, no, I think it's, it's establishing sort to like for you, like, okay, what are you willing to put up with? What are, what aren't you in terms of like, okay, if this is what a friend is or a good friend or a best friend or like your, your circle kind of a thing.
01:31:34
Speaker
Um, you know, and mine have evolved so much and even the last couple of years, honestly, yeah you know, i really defining that for myself. But, you know, same thing like like even with with with music to like, oh, my God. So I played the House of Blues San Diego in February and it was, you know, it's a milestone, right? Like playing the House of Blues. That's great.
01:31:57
Speaker
Nice little check mark on the resume. Right. Slight problem. Slight, slight. Teeny, tiny problem. um So I had a um a sub as my drummer. Like i my other guy was on tour.
01:32:13
Speaker
And this guy... I gave him all the materials you could possibly ask for. Like I said, a full Google Drive. you know We had a conversation on the phone about things. like you know We had one rehearsal, and then we were going go.
Crisis Management: Firing a Drummer
01:32:28
Speaker
right And we have the one rehearsal.
01:32:32
Speaker
This motherfucker does not know a goddamn song. I gave him shit like four weeks in advance. And he didn't know fuck all.
01:32:43
Speaker
And he was making excuses. And so about an hour or not even into the rehearsal, I kicked everybody out of the room. And I was like, got to let you go. Like, you're fired. I had to let go.
01:32:55
Speaker
So I fired the fucking drummer four days before the goddamn show. And we are scrambling. Me and my producer and and you know my my friend Lynn, we are fucking scrambling. We're calling every drummer in LA, I swear to God. And either weren't available or they couldn't they couldn't make it happen in time or like I couldn't afford them or whatever the hell it was. And so we decided to put the drums on tracks.
01:33:22
Speaker
Now, luckily, I already had tracks like with because I have bass and some other things on it. And I needed to learn my equipment anyways. like I am not a live sound tech person. like i i am like I'm very blessed. I'm working with a lovely human being right now named Bernie Godwin. He's like an engineer. He's like a live tech guy. um um I'm coming as soon as I can, Pierce. As soon as I fucking can. As soon as Glick has that festival, I'm fucking coming. Yeah, I've been asking her that for two years. I'm fucking coming, I promise. As soon as I get funding, I'm
01:33:58
Speaker
um fucking coming. You're one of the one of the first invites going out. There's a very select, like, top ten invites to super-squared away. Let's go, baby. I can't fucking wait.
01:34:13
Speaker
Yeah. The fuck were we talking about? and you You had to do tracks at the House of Blues. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, like, you know, I'm not a sound
Adapting to Challenges with Teamwork
01:34:23
Speaker
– I'm not tech person. I'm working with Bernie Godwin. He's a lovely human being. He's an engineer, live tech sound. Like, he's done tech for, like, Maroon 5. Like, he's great. And so he's, like, hooking me up with my rig, right?
01:34:32
Speaker
Also calling in another guy, Ron Geffen, for some advice. And he, like, came to the rehearsal. He basically said, I had to kind of crash course all this shit and, like, learn it myself while also getting some help and some feedback from my my team, from my network. And i Fucking like, it somehow magically came together where like basically I ran tracks while on stage while also running video for the shit going on behind me during the songs with my two guitarists, my backup singer, and then me. So there was no drummer, it was just through the tracks.
01:35:05
Speaker
And we only had to start over once. And we made like a very like a resilience story out of it You know, like the crowd was really empathetic and really into it kind of thing. So we made it work.
01:35:17
Speaker
But, oh, my God, it was just so like, are you fucking kidding me, dude? Like, are you fucking kidding me? Nerve wracking. Well, you know, they say everything happens for a reason. And, you know, you weren't super familiar with with the equipment.
01:35:31
Speaker
Now you've got to crash course. So hopefully... Now I'm a lot more familiar. I am still not anywhere near, like, where I could be or maybe even should be, one would argue. um Which is why, you know, again, I'm working with, like, Bernie and some other people. Like, like literally, like, when we have a rehearsal couple weeks, if we're having... It's a tech rehearsal, basically.
01:35:48
Speaker
Like, to troubleshoot everything, make sure that things are leveled out and whatever and good to go. You know, so... It's just but that again, that kind of then comes in play into play like of having a team. Right. So like I have this before, but like I think it's so, so, so important. One of the things that you can do for yourself as an indie musician is to find your team and build a team. And typically I think it's, i mean, first of all, they had to believe in you and what you're doing, which means you to believe in yourself first.
Value of a Supportive Network
01:36:15
Speaker
And on top of that, I think it's great when they have other skillset that either maybe you're not good at, or maybe like you don't really have the time to learn kind of a thing or don't want to learn. um
01:36:26
Speaker
Like the first guy on my team was my producer, right? And he's an insane producer, mixer, master, mastery engineer, and among other things. And then he's a great songwriter too at that. So got that involved and taken care of.
01:36:41
Speaker
Then I bring on Lynn for like content strategy. She does a little songwriting. You know, she helps me out with other kind of other things here and there. Just some booking for me. um That's great. Phil's that slot. Okay, cool. So then I now have been able to work with Bernie as like my live tech consultant, if you will. um And that's been amazing because it's like, okay here's all these, this world that I know nothing about, but you can kind of translate it for me and I can generally figure out. So like being able to build this team of people around me over the last couple of years has been so instrumental. And the same thing, like my, My other buddy Ron Geffen, when he came in, he was like, he he like teched the rehearsal for me before that House of Blues gig, just to like level set things and make sure things are running smoothly, which was so crucial, so helpful. um you know And like just having those people around you. I even had a friend, this is again, like you know invest in your network too. That's the other thing too. Build your team, but also invest in your network. like Show up for people. It's really astounding.
01:37:39
Speaker
how little effort it goes a long way when you just show up. Okay. Like go to their shows, events, whatever the fuck it is. Cause you can't expect them to come to yours if you don't go to theirs. Right. Yeah. and So, you know, fast forward, um, really amazing drummers, Zach St. John. Um, he drummed on parent trap and he's like a touring drummer that that motherfucker is always busy.
01:38:01
Speaker
And he called down out about what happened with my drummer situation. He was like, Jules, if you really need somebody, i can fly in on like Saturday and I'll need Tom pick me up from the airport. We'll drive down. I won't have a rehearsal, but we can learn it on the fly. And I was like, we're even attempting that. I was like, I'm going to go ahead on tracks, but I fucking love you for even like offering to like, putting it out you know, um's like that was really, really cool. Just so awesome. Yeah. yeah
01:38:32
Speaker
Yeah. having having that community or that network or you know, that that circle around you, it's, it's like you said, it's so important and so vital, you know, yeah because as, as much as, I mean, personally, most days I like to think that I can do all this without anybody. And I do, I do do a good majority, if not everything close to everything for the network. I mean, I, as there's a couple of people, know,
01:39:02
Speaker
Kayla being one of them that, you know, when when I'm having my moments of like, fuck this shit. She's like, no, no, you got something. But then Wally and and another guy, Rock Lee, who is not only a former guest of this show, but he's filled in on Saturdays for me. And, you know, i haven't he's one of my very good friends, you know,
01:39:22
Speaker
that support like, Hey man, I'm not gonna be able to do a show Saturday.
Skills and Success: Personal Contributions
01:39:25
Speaker
um Oh, I got you. I got you. I may not show, but i'll I'll do at least three. I got you. right ever right No. And I, I, I should mention, I can't believe I forgot it. I knew i was forgetting someone. My, my husband, like you mentioned, Kayla, my husband is so crucial. He's like my business manager.
01:39:42
Speaker
Like, thank God that he is good with numbers because I am not. And so he helps me with the business aspect of things and running the numbers, making sure everything kind of squares out financially. And then he also does but the Facebook ads for me. yeah He learned how to do all that so that like I wasn't so severely overwhelmed. Like he was like, all right, I can take it off your plate. I like it. I'm am fascinated by all the analytics.
01:40:09
Speaker
Let me dive into it That's the thing, right? It's like, it's people who were like, okay, I have a certain skill or a certain interest, but to your point too, you were like, okay, I need to learn how to do certain things myself because I, my team is scrappy. It's small. It's whatever.
01:40:22
Speaker
And you know, like with me, okay. ah Well, for a while i was having other people design my artwork, my album artwork. And I just like, I had a certain vision in my head and I couldn't get it out of my head. And I was like, I just need to do a little crash course and learn how to do it. So like Campbell's been my best friend. um i There's like a knockoff Photoshop that I've used as well. You know, those two things have been like my best friend, like for flyers, CD, you know, CD covers, like,
01:40:52
Speaker
um hard work, whatever, like, that's been my go to. You know, so but but again, it's like learning how like, but that was a skill that I had interest in you know, it was like, I didn't I wouldn't have developed it otherwise. But it was like, Alright, I know how to I like this, I know what
Learning and Adapting for Growth
01:41:07
Speaker
I want. And so let me just go ahead and kind of quickly adapt and the tools. Now, mixing? Forget it.
01:41:14
Speaker
don't want anything to do with it. no there's too many knobs, there's too many switches, there's too many options. It's like you do one teeny little tweak. Oh, can't undo it. dadadadah like i just there's I am overwhelmed with the amount of options. like No, thank you. Goodbye.
01:41:32
Speaker
No, exactly. No, mean it's like, you know, even even Kayla, she she didn't know how to do stuff like this. So she learned how to do this to help me out on shows so that we could put, i mean, i I tag you guys and everything. You know that I tag you guys in all the social media and everything like that. But it's nice to have this during the show so I can just throw it up there and then it's in the chat. People can click on it. Like Kayla's it right now because she's fucking awesome.
01:41:58
Speaker
Yeah, she learned she learned how to do that. and it makes And it's nice because there have been people, especially with with you guys, with the music guests, right in the middle of the show, though that'll pop up and then they'll go to you your YouTube channel or something and listen to some music and then come in and and and be in the chat and go, oh, this song is really good. This song is really good. oh They're like, oh, I dig this sound. I dig that. and i did that No, and it's and like because Kayla's dropping in as often as she is, like you know we're able to like see a lot more of it.
01:42:29
Speaker
Oh, yeah. um Yeah, no, it's I love it that, you know, you're, like I said, it's so, and this is why I like to have guests come back, because from where you were the first time you were on here, and I don't know exactly how long ago it was, I'd have to go back and look at my playlist. you nice I learned how to use playlists on YouTube, so I can put all my shows when they're live, and as soon as they end, they automatically go into the playlist. Right. Boom, done.
01:42:58
Speaker
Because I had a guest that I'm talking to. He's like, oh, I want to check out some of your shows. I said, well, you can go to the playlist and all the Glickshouse music shows are right there. You pick one. Boom.
01:43:09
Speaker
Boom. And your Instagram's looking great, too. I was just checking it out before I signed on. Like, you know, you're like, OK, here's my comedy. Here's my this. Here's my that. And it's all it's all very like.
01:43:20
Speaker
Shout out to ChatGPT. But still, you're putting out the effort to like consistently post. Like, okay, here's a little clip from when I talked to Jules. Here's a little clip from when talked to so-and-so. Oh, here's the graphic for our conversation tonight. You know what mean? like That's still effort and like consistency. oh yeah Oh, yeah. I know some people are like, oh, it's AI. there' still Yes, it is AI, but there's still a certain amount of work that goes into it. you know i said and There's there's like tweaking, you know things like that. So now I get that.
01:43:51
Speaker
Yeah, because i I had to use all three of my free uses for this for this background. because It was like minor tweaks. I was like, oh, I'll take this out and add this. Take that out and put that back. yeah I know. Isn't it funny? And you're like, I have two more options.
01:44:09
Speaker
I have to make sure I pick up everything possible that I wanted to do. Damn yeah Yeah, so, yeah you know, it's it's just, you know, again, it's you you go through those ups and downs and you you you you lose people, you find people, you learn new things, and it's all about it's all about growth. Like I said, from where you were,
01:44:30
Speaker
when, we can you know, the first time you're on here to where you are today, you're like, you know, you're still Jules, but you're growing and getting better every, and I love it. I love watching it. It's one of my favorite things about this show and you guys is now as a fan, and I continue to be a fan, getting to watch you guys grow and watch you guys mature and watch the numbers come up for you and and see bigger things happen. It's like, I got to hit the keyboards here. Hey, don't forget about me. you know yeah come on to show but No, I feel And I think that's, I think that's the beauty of it. Like, cause you know, the, the vibe that you create on your show is very, it's very chill, but it's very supportive and it's very, you know, like it's a hang and people want to come back for a hang. um
01:45:16
Speaker
You know, and I, I, love it I love it. love what you're doing on here and I, I'm glad that I, I got to come back. It's been awesome. Well, like I said, you know the door is always open for you. but they gar there's a yeah There's a select group. Again, there's a top ten list of who's you going to bed, buddy.
01:45:35
Speaker
right Love you. I'll see in the morning. ah You know that I'm i'm always like, i dont want to get them back on. oh i want to get them, but they're so busy. you know ah I love the fact that you guys make time for me still and are welcome to come back up here. And it's so much easier after the first one because we've already got to know you a little bit. And it's just kind of like, just come in and just shoot the shit. Let's see what you're doing.
01:46:00
Speaker
Exactly. It's less of the like the polished, like, hello, my name is Jules. It's very nice to meet you. And it' it's more of like,
Collaborating and Expanding Networks
01:46:08
Speaker
yo, what's up, Bucker? How you doing? The real Jules, if you will.
01:46:14
Speaker
guys Hello. Although, like I said, you there was there was no, from the first time, it was you just kicked the board and it was just like, like get I'm here. if This is me. Love me or hate me. This is me.
01:46:28
Speaker
I love it. now Thank you for having me, man. It's always been fun. Always. And it was cool for me to be a part of, you know, my small part of being a part of the Women Riding LA the last couple couple years that's been That's been so cool.
01:46:42
Speaker
i know you know and You and I have talked about this quite a bit, and it seems like all of a sudden um there's an emergence or a surge in and in women rockers, and I love it because I've always been a fan of a female rockers, rocker chicks, whatever you want to call them, and all of a sudden you guys are everywhere.
01:47:02
Speaker
oh I'll send you my playlist, dude. Can I send it in the chat? i don't know I can or not. You might be able to. Let's see. if i Join the chat. Okay, I'll do it later. I'll send it to you. It's basically... Yeah, I'll send it to you because it's on Spotify. It's like a whole playlist. Female rockers need to know. It's like people who are up and coming, people who are super established, people who are kind of mid-tier. It's very hard-hitting, super high-energy kind of shit. So no, yeah. There's a...
01:47:32
Speaker
There was a couple ah couple young ladies that followed me from the post today, and I was checking out their music, and I was like, oh, I am absolutely going to be reaching out to them. Wait, who? I don't know them.
01:47:45
Speaker
ah Let me see. I have to jump on here on Instagram real quick. Where are they at? Vic Lin?
01:48:00
Speaker
Oh, VK Lin? Yeah, VK Lin. Oh yeah, she's a really good friend of mine. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Absolutely. sha around And Heather to the max official? Yep.
01:48:11
Speaker
She's fantastic. Yep. Yeah. So I was, and and Bruce, I seen he commented. I was like, ooh. Bruce! I'm going to reach out. Bruce is my guitarist.
Song Success and Audience Reception
01:48:24
Speaker
right yes Bruce is my lead guitarist and he is a great artist in and of his his own right. He's a like very glam rock 80s throwback. I like that. yeah like that He's so sick. yeah and heather to ma Heather to the Max, she's doing like blues punk rock kind of alt vibe. which is um Yeah, VK's been a good friend of mine for a while. She has her own project doing like kind of a ah mixture of like blues metal and then some like Americana. And now she has a new project called Sapient Scar, which is like industrial symphonic metal kind of a thing. me
01:49:09
Speaker
So, yeah, lots of good voices. Definitely hit up all of them, for sure. Tell them I said hi. i was I was checking out their Instagrams and stuff, and I was like, damn, okay. Follow back, follow back, follow. Hey, look at you growing the network. Make sure I reach out to them. I'm so proud. I love how far you've come. Yeah, I think it's funny because sometimes people look and they're like, you're not even that big.
01:49:38
Speaker
Yeah. yeah But remember that, you know, wow I mean, but like neither. I'm not that big yet. You know, it's like it's the same both ways. No, I think a conversation is a conversation. A hang is a hang. So, i none that you know, and it's at the end of the day, it is for you guys. It's just another it's just another avenue to get music out there. I mean, yeah.
01:49:59
Speaker
We still play your music around here. I still listen to your music all the time. I mean, you've got a couple songs um Obviously, I told you the first time we met that it was a
Podcast Vibe and Returning Guests
01:50:10
Speaker
ballsy move your cover of of Hendrix's Watchtower and one of my favorite songs that of yours is Bring Me Your Tears. That's one of my favorite p songs yeah i love this song um That was that was actually I think that was the one that was like, oh, I got to get her on my show because that is amazing
01:50:33
Speaker
I get a lot of love for that one. I get a lot of love for Rupert Premier Tears. Yeah, even to this day, like I was just on another the podcast with ah my sync agency, Mirror House Group, and they literally spent the whole time just talking about that song. so yeah It's a great song, and it really kind of shows off how powerful your voice is.
01:50:51
Speaker
Thank you. Yeah, it might be one that you You throw in there and you yeah you re-release sometime down the road. You know what? It's funny. I added it back into my live sets and it does really well. It does really, really well.
01:51:06
Speaker
so Well, therell yeah that was a major push and a major request at the at the music festival whenever I get around there. I was just going say, when I play out in Ohio, then that'll be absolutely on the list. I'll be like, all right, Glick, what songs you want to hear? You want that one? Great.
01:51:21
Speaker
Got it. Yeah. I'm just going to pick your set list. We're going to do this. I'll be like, listen, everybody, if you hate this, it's Glick's fault. It's all Absolutely.
01:51:36
Speaker
No, and and it was brought up to me. The great thing about that idea is now doing the comedy show, mixing in some comedians and stuff like that with the music. I'm like, this could become a monster of its own that that I'm not even ready. oh Oh my gosh, I know. And you know, again, I love how booked up you already are. Like that's,
01:51:54
Speaker
I wish my music calendar was as booked up. yeah i Hit up those three, like a thousand percent. I can, you know, I'll send you more. i can send you some more as well. yeah absolutely um But yeah, no, because it's always, it's always a good time on Glick's house of music.
01:52:12
Speaker
It's always Glick's fault. Absolutely. but What did we learn today, kids? It's always Glick's fault. Yeah, where's Chris Technician at one of One of our longtime followers, probably one of my most loyal followers. His phrase is usually fucking Glick. Fucking Glick.
01:52:32
Speaker
I hate to do this because we always have so much fun talking, but we're getting close to that time. And I know you've got to do dinner and stuff still. You're the luxury where it's only, what's like 7 o'clock out there where you are. Yeah, 7 o'clock in my time. Out in my life.
01:52:48
Speaker
Yeah, I'm living in the future out here. Yeah. How is it? No, don't tell me. like Now, thank you so much for having me. It's always so much fun. I love catching up with you, man. You're the best. I appreciate what you do. Absolutely. We'll have to do it again before another year or so goes by. Absolutely. Absolutely. You can be posted on that festival, all right?
01:53:13
Speaker
Oh, trust me. i will i'm i'm I'm tiptoeing and starting to learn some things. Like I said, it's going to be a little bit more than I than i expected. but no um Thank you for coming on again. ah always I've been so excited to get to hang out with you again.
01:53:31
Speaker
So it's always
Gratitude and Female Rock Scene Growth
01:53:32
Speaker
a good time. Yay! On the EP. Thank you. Most importantly, congratulations on being able to get some of that shit off of your chest.
01:53:42
Speaker
And showing that, yes, ladies and gentlemen, Jules is a little bit vulnerable. She's not always a badass. She's got a soft side. True. She's a soft yet hard, hard exterior, soft inner shell. Absolutely.
01:53:59
Speaker
And congratulations on the tour this summer. Hopefully that goes, goes well. You'll to keep me up to date on how things are going. And as we get closer, you know, you can always pop in and we can, uh, shout it out and promote it. there yeah Thank you. will Will you howl with me it to send to send sign us off here?
01:54:17
Speaker
I will try. i have failed epically every time that I have tried. There's no failing. All right. You ready? One, two, three. o because Beautiful. Love it Thank you so much, Glick. Thank you guys for tuning in. Love all y'all.
01:54:35
Speaker
Absolutely. Have a good night. I'll let you drop down. I'm going to do my my spiel. I'm actually ending the show with ah the song we were just talking about. Yeah. All right, guys. out. Talk to you later. See you later.
01:54:50
Speaker
Hanging out and watching. Make sure you all go check out Jules. You can find her everywhere on all the social media. We even got it right here in the chat for you as well.
01:55:00
Speaker
Jules in the house. on instagram tools in the how on youtube facebook and she's even got her own website tools in the how.com check out all that stuff if you guys are out in the uh la area as we talked earlier she's going on tour definitely go check her out go show her some love check out the new ep check out all the songs um and yeah all that fun stuff uh again thank you guys for hanging out thank you guys for watching and supporting our shows um i know it may not seem like it but uh i know
Conclusion and Engagement Encouragement
01:55:38
Speaker
wally puts in a lot of hard work getting his guest um it's it's not as easy as i make it sound to be sometimes getting guests um it's a chore
01:55:49
Speaker
And a lot of time and effort goes into it. So I hope you guys enjoy the guests that we have across the board on all the shows. Tune in tomorrow night four Glick's Comedy Lounge.
01:56:01
Speaker
I will have, let me go check my handy dandy calendar here. Because I can't remember anything. I have Miss Naomi Green hanging out with me tomorrow night on Glick's Comedy Lounge Thursday night while Cephas, I know you're in the chatter's box.
01:56:27
Speaker
yeah It sure is. What are you guys doing Thursday night? And are you doing something Friday night?
01:56:36
Speaker
Josh Phillips, Thursday night. There we go. Josh Phillips, Thursday night on Wally's show. Then Saturday is your normal shenanigan Saturday night with nonsensical nonsense.
01:56:52
Speaker
And yeah then we'll start it all over again on next Monday.
01:56:58
Speaker
Shop Talk Friday. The boys are in the garage. The boys are in the garage hanging out. It's got a motor and it's got wheels. They're talking about it.
01:57:08
Speaker
So, with that being said, make sure you guys like, share, subscribe. Give us a follow, bio.link slash nonsensicalnetwork. If you do want to help support the shows, you don't have to. It's greatly appreciated.
01:57:22
Speaker
You can do that by going to our Cash app or Venmo or PayPal. I think we got all that shit as well. It's all in our bio link. But the easiest thing.
01:57:32
Speaker
way to support us and it's free drop some likes drop some comments drop some shares that'll definitely help us in those algorithms with that being shit i'm getting the flock out of here be good or be good at it baby enjoy a little jewels in the howl as we exit stage left
01:57:57
Speaker
Bring me your tears. Bring me your tears. Take all my wasted years.
01:58:11
Speaker
Bring me your tears. You let me down.
01:58:30
Speaker
I try to scream till my lungs fall.
01:59:31
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Shut you up, shut you down.
02:00:19
Speaker
Thank you.
02:00:45
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You fall, bring me your