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The Notebook
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Yup. You read that right. Grab your tissues because this week Emma & Katie dive into their first Sparks: the 2004 classic The Notebook. Join them as they chat the moments that made them hyperventilate sob, why every 16 year old is insufferable and how the movie ending is compared to the book ending. Which line makes you cringe less: If you're a bird, I'm a bird or can our love make miracles? YOU decide!
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Intro and Recording Delays
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Here we are. Lovely evening. Yeah, just a full two weeks after we were going to record this episode originally. So listeners, here's what happened. Emma and had all these plans to get ahead of things and record two episodes in a week to really get ahead.
00:00:19
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We always have to. I just realized that my microphone is so far away from me. Can you hear me at all? Yeah, it just sounds... Oh, that sounds so much better. Is that better? Yeah, that's so much better.
00:00:29
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Imagine that. Look at that. But yeah, we had these beautiful plans and normally we're really good about it, but the holidays put us behind.
00:00:41
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And, um you know, we we thought that we had a week where we were going to do two episodes and then Emma decides on a Monday, I'm going to eat my leftover burrito bowl.
00:00:55
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I didn't know you were going to share this story, but go ahead. Yep, yep. Why not? I'm going to eat my leftover burrito bowl. That sounds like a lovely thing to do. And so I do. And it tastes great. And I am enjoying it. Oh, that's good. I'm glad it i'm glad it tasted good, at least. Yeah, it tasted good.
00:01:10
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What didn't taste good was my stomach a little under two hours later. And then cut to me... vomiting and just peeing out of my butt ah for the next 24 to 48 hours.
00:01:31
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yeah I had nothing left and then I just slept and I had no energy because I couldn't keep anything down. Dehydrated. Yeah. Yeah. This is, this was the week that we were going to record and i in the back of my mind, not until Tuesday,
00:01:48
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Tuesday evening we were set to record on Wednesday and I was like maybe I can still do it can still I can still do it I can still record this is I'm a trooper but then we get to the end of Tuesday and I'm like I can't do it Katie we gotta reschedule lot of cigarettes I can't do it
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can't do it
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So there was
Geopolitical Talks and Travel Anecdotes
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that. And then we just had clusterfuck of scheduling earlier this last week. And so like now here we are and we finally got it.
00:02:29
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For the first time in Go Get Your Girl History, we are going to record an episode and release it in the same week. Yeah. There are no episodes that we've recorded that we haven't released.
00:02:42
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Exactly. are really. Like Longshot came out today. Yeah. Yeah. We're really flying by the seat of our pants here. So we got to record at least two a week for approximately two months now. Yeah, exactly.
00:02:54
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But it's okay because this is going to super topical because we're not going back in time or forward That's That's true. We won't talk about things that have already happened. Exactly. So like, you know, we're almost at war with Iran. Yeah. So that's like, you know. Christ. Yep.
00:03:11
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Yeah. There it's there's that. And and they got rid of TSA pre-check, which made me really sad. Oh, I didn't even know that. Did they? Yeah. wow They suspended TSA pre-check. Yeah. Oh, great, great, great, great. What a great. Government. Now I don't want to go to the airport ever.
00:03:29
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I have not been, I went, I picked Caitlin up from the airport last night and I was thinking about It was like, I have not been on a plane since 2018. Really? yeah Really? Yeah. you drive everywhere?
00:03:43
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ah drive yeah we drive to Tennessee, drive to Virginia. like it's out It's so much easier, I swear. i would I mean, for me, I know some people can't be in a car for that long.
00:03:54
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i I mean, Virginia Beach is the furthest place that we drove, which was like... A little over 16 hours. Oh, wow. i i you know I was tired at the end of it, but like i still at the end of it, I was just like, ah God, I'd rather do this than then fly. on like Yeah.
00:04:10
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You don't have to worry about luggage. It's huge pain in the ass to fly. Especially because a lot of these times we're going for Christmas and stuff, and so we end up taking presents and then bringing back presents, and having to check that shit is like, yeah, I don't want to do It's annoying.
00:04:26
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Yeah. So annoying. And i'll I'll let you know from personal experience that um the the like equivalent of hell is probably O'Hare a few days after Christmas.
00:04:40
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Yeah, i I saw fear in a lot of parents eyes that day that I was out. They just keep playing run run reindeer by by what's his name over and over on a loop over and over and over on a loop. And then there's this blonde little child running through but gets on the wrong airplane. He's always on the wrong plane. He's on the wrong plane.
00:05:04
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um no it's a reference to home alone 2 lost in new york for non-millennials listening yeah um but yeah no i saw i saw a lot of parents um on their last legs this past christmas at o'hare on the 29th when there's like a freeze about to happen and every single flight is delayed Oh, yeah, for sure. Yeah. Just like the sadness. Chuck Berry. Chuck Berry sings Run Road to Dolph. I'm so sorry. There go.
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Chuck Berry. Famously normal person with no social um problems whatsoever. yeah Yep. Totally. Don't question it.
00:05:47
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Yep. Dated people of the normal age all the time. Yep. yeah Yep. yep but Yep. Don't worry about it.
Art vs. Artist Debate
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Nothing to see here. ah
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files Oh no, Emma! Famously featured! Goddammit!
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Famously featured in today's film. No, they are not. They definitely are not. They definitely are not. ah But um old and timey music famously featured.
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We're doing the movie Manhattan by Woody Allen tonight. what Never, never, ever, ever. I feel like I've been thinking about it. So like, I know that some other podcasts have,
00:06:38
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like, like Pat had like movies like, okay, we're never going to do this. I feel like it would be hard to never do Annie Hall. Yeah, I agree. So maybe we'll do Annie Hall one day, but just, you know,
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We're going to have to set aside like four hours. Yeah. yeah discussion Because a good two hours is going to be just me ranting and raving um yeah about what a terrible person woody Allen is um and how no one should support his work. and Well, here's the other thing. I think that everybody knows, like it's not something that we have to like inform people about. So I feel like we would, it would be possible to do that. I mean, but yeah, i mean, there's no reason to do Manhattan. Yeah.
00:07:17
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No, no, no, no. And like, like the thing is, is that like, yes, everybody knows Woody Allen's yeah niche crimes, crimes, his crimes. um And the people still until like the 2015s, celebrities were still starring in his movies.
00:07:39
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Oh, yeah. it's just... And it's just one of those things where it really just puts the the the lie to all... Like, that they didn't care. of those people care about it. It's just that finally, after Weinstein, it became, ah like...
00:07:51
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it became something you didn't do. Like, yeah and I didn't know about Woody Allen because like, it wasn't something anybody talked about until well into like college and stuff. I remember going to see Matchpoint in theaters and like, none of us knew anything about it. We knew that we knew about like his, his wife or whatever, which is like his wife daughter. Yeah. Weird, but not like a crime. Yeah. Yeah.
00:08:19
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And, um but like, it was just a thing because it can mean it happened back in like the 80s or even the 70s. And like, yeah, people found out about it then. And like, just nobody cared about it for 30 years. It's crazy.
00:08:33
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Absolutely ridiculous. Same goes for. Michael Jackson. Roman Polanski. And Roman Polanski. Like, it's just like, these are like, I mean, they're making a movie, a biopic about Michael Jackson that's coming out this year.
00:08:46
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They're making a two. They're making two. They had to split it in two. Yeah. Oh, come the fuck on. hu Like, I just like, I have no respect for him as an artist, because how can you not?
The Notebook: Emotional Impact and Critique
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Like, I mean, yes, it's a little different because Woody Allen's movies are very Lolita coded. But like, well, and I mean, certainly not all of them. But the thing about Woody Allen is that he's in a lot of those movies. Like if Woody Allen wasn't the main character in Annie Hall, we wouldn't have to have the conversation at all. it would be very easy to talk about it. yeah But unfortunately, like him and his whole deal is central to most of his movies. Now, a lot of his movies I still really like a lot. Like I think that Hannah and her sisters and Crimes and Misdemeanors and Annie Hall and The Purple Rose of Cairo. I love those movies. I love all of those movies.
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Now, he's not in Purple Rose of Cairo, for example, which makes it a lot easier to watch. Yeah. But like it's... It's, yeah, it's a lot more difficult when they're actually in it, as opposed to Rosemary's Baby, another movie that I love. Yeah. You know, Roman Polanski not actually in that movie. It makes it a lot easier to to separate that thing. Yeah, um yeah.
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Yeah. Versus, like, I mean, like, yeah, Michael Jackson's songs aren't about him yeah abusing children. But I can't listen to any Michael Jackson now and not think of the horrendous documentary that I watched about him ruining several people's lives. Now, the thing about Michael Jackson is everybody everybody talked about that the whole time. Like, I feel like there wasn't... There was definitely ah most... I would say most people didn't care still, but everybody knew about it the whole time.
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Like, there trial. It was definitely a thing. Like, yeah, I mean, when I was, like, a little kid, there were Michael Jackson jokes. Yeah. You know? Like... But, like, it's um Why are we still giving his estate money? Why are we still glamorizing this a horrible human?
00:10:51
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Yeah. Yeah. It's a thing. it's one of those things that's like before Kanye got like really bad back when Kanye was just rude. Like, yeah you know, when he was super popular and like, he was just likeed and, and great, you know, like I think those like first like four or five Kanye albums are truly great. um One thing I would say was like, oh, I can't stand Kanye. Like, he's such a he's such an asshole. I'm like, you know Michael Jackson, like, like sexually assaulted children, right? yeah Like, what are you talking about? he's He's an asshole? Like, please, give me a break.
00:11:22
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Like, I remember people crying and dying. But, mean, obviously, he's gotten a lot worse since then. So we can't really use that as example anymore. Yeah, exactly. That's not a fair comparison. Yeah. Anyways.
00:11:33
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Pedophiles not featured in this movie. Oh, my God. I can't believe that we spent the first 10 minutes of the podcast talk of The Notebook. Talking about pedophiles. Pedophiles. Jesus Christ. Honestly, and not even the biggest pedophiles in the room.
00:11:47
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like Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. this and i mean This is not even related to the Epstein files. Yep. I mean, I don't know. I was talking to a friend the other day and and she was like, yeah, I've been reading the Epstein files. mean, it's like, what do you mean you've been reading them? That just seems like um light reading. That just seems like self-harm. like i But I mean, like, if you're curious, it's the same thing as to like, you know, why why women love true crime.
00:12:12
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yeah I guess. Why is one of my like relaxing shows, um, fricking criminal minds. Yeah. That's fucked up. Yeah. Yeah. When I was sick with the stomach flu or food poisoning or where whatever it was, i just threw on some criminal minds and Charlie was like, Oh good. I'm so glad that you were just indulging yourself in some light watching some light television watching. And i was like, just let me have my thing.
00:12:40
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Yeah, i um I don't do that. i don't I don't want to watch any of that. i don't want I certainly don't want to watch the documentaries about the the people who were murdered and stuff. I don't i gotta i'm get into that. I gotta watch it.
00:12:51
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I'm happy for you. Thank you. I would never take it away from you. Just like Wuthering Heights. Which I just saw. And I will say, I loved it for what it was.
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um i am i just started the audiobook, ah and it is not the same thing. They are... Very different. They're two completely different. It's not not a rom-com.
00:13:19
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They're two planets. The book is not the movie. The movie is not the book. It is not loyal to the book in any way, shape, or form. From what I've heard, yeah it people doubt that she even read it.
00:13:31
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Yeah, it's like, there's, yeah, and there's a couple characters that have the same, all the characters have the same names and it's said in the same place, but like everything else is different. And when you take that and and like digest that and know that,
00:13:47
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uh the movie's a ah delight uh boy oh boy is it beautiful is it um is it a fun story yes uh it is it is it an a fun story is something no one's ever used to describe weathering heights weathering height so i just and i haven't seen it i have i would say strongly hated emerald fennel's previous two movies so i feel like I'm not going to like it. And I have read Wuthering Heights. And i feel like there's no way I'm going like this movie. But I will reserve judgment.
00:14:20
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And I'm happy that you liked it I know some people like it. Yeah. You just got to go in knowing that it is not Wuthering Heights. It is. That's why. Then don't call it that. Jacob Elordi and Margot Robbie are mean to each other. And then they bang to Charlie XCX.
00:14:36
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That's what it is. that's yeah That's not Wuthering Heights. I don't know. yeah just thinking about theres There's like a good five minute long like sex montage a la Bridgerton. And I just sat with my mouth gaping open in the movie theater.
00:14:50
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um yeah You're not selling it, Emma. you're not I loved it. It was great. The costumes are really pretty. um The Yorkshire Moors famously featured...
00:15:05
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Yeah. day stuff ah That's right. You guessed it, guys. This is Go Get Your Girl. This is the podcast where Emma and Katie have dementia.
00:15:18
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Yeah. That's right. And ah a very nice gentleman comes up to us and reads us a story about children. insufferable teens.
00:15:29
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Just insufferable teens. Two unrelated people that definitely aren't us and James Garner. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. And ah the story of how they fall in love. And it is sort of like, you know, it is the tale as old as time.
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She...
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He was punk rock and she did ballet. Yeah. You know? um Except it's, he builds tables and renovates old house and works at Lumber Mill.
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And she is filthy rich. Yeah, she's rich in the 1940s. Yeah. And James Marston is also there. Yeah.
00:16:13
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Which was another thing that I watched when I had the stomach flu was I rewatched all of jury duty and I forgot how great that show is. I haven't seen that. I hear it's really good. It's so fucking good. James Marsden is in it and it's a huge plot point where they're just like, what, what stuff has he been in? And they're like, uh, Sonic the Hedgehog, uh, the notebook.
00:16:33
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And like, ah he's, he's Scott Summers. He's Scott Summers. He's, he's Cyclops from the X-Men. Yeah. He was also an X-Men. But um it was around the time that Sonic the Hedgehog had like just come out. And so he was like really, really leaning in on Sonic the Hedgehog.
00:16:50
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Anyways. um But they kept they keep referring him as the the guy from The Notebook. ah So, yeah. I'm Emma.
00:17:03
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And I'm Katie, and today we are talking about the classic rom-drom, The Notebook. A weepy, if you will. It is definitely a weepy. 2004.
00:17:14
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two thousand and four um Directed by Nick Cassavetes, the son of the the great John Cassavetes, the inventor of American independent cinema. um Nick Cassavetes, not as much renowned as John Cassavetes. He directed The Notebook, My Sister's Keeper, ah Alpha Dog, ah he John Q.,
00:17:43
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He loves creepies. He's made a bunch of trash, honestly. He's no John Cassavetes, and I'm sure he would agree. um His mother, also, you know, ah the great Gina Rollins, in this movie and in all of John Cassavetes' movies, she's a woman under the influence, um ah opening night, one of my favorite movies.
00:18:04
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um One of our finest actresses in this in this film um cast his own mom to play her, which is very sweet, yes. ah Screenplay by Jeremy Levin, who wrote The Legend of Bagger Vance. ah um And My Sister's Keeper, directed by Nick Cassavetes. He also wrote Real Steel, which is a robot fighting movie.
00:18:25
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Oh. And there's it's a strange credit. It says Adaptation by Jan Sardi, who won an Oscar for the Geoffrey Rush piano pianist movie shine it's a biopic about a about an autistic piano uh player i believe but um jeffrey rush won best actor for it in the 90s um but that's yeah that's pretty much it deep cut deep cut yeah uh and also i mean it should be said that this film is uh has a special place in hearts of millennials everywhere Yeah, it's it's a classic. it um It made us all cry in high school. And now yeah makes us cry again. yeah yeah um This is, of course, based on the book by Nicholas Sparks. This was his debut novel.
00:19:16
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This is our first spark. What? It's our first Sparks. It is our first and hopefully only Sparks. yeah um This is the only good Nicholas Sparks movie. ah So I would love to not watch another one. Nope. We're going to watch them all.
00:19:34
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ah Listen, I have not seen all the Nicholas Sparks movies, um but this is, i read this book in high school. Did you really? Yeah. Have you not read it?
00:19:45
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no i just know like that the ending is way more sexy. The ending is way better in the book, and we'll get to that in the movie. I think the ending is a major problem in this movie. um But the ah though the the the book is like, it's, so it's bad. Like, the movie the book is bad. yeah It's trash. it's um It's so poorly written. It's amazing this guy has a career. Like, it's literally just... It's it's bad for the culture that he's as popular as he is. um ah
00:20:17
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This movie is is much better than the book. ah but But what happened, I like the ending of the book better, but it's still, I have ah i have had but another ending fix.
00:20:28
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But we'll get there at the end. Yeah, we'll get there at the end when we talk about that. And then I tried to read one of those other books. I believe it was Message in a Bottle. it might have been Walk to Remember. Another one that they made a movie out of that I saw and like couldn't even get through it. ah Just i absolute sal trash.
00:20:43
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I read Walk to Remember. ah Yeah. And I loved the movie as well. So we will be definitely doing a Walk to Remember. A Walk to Remember is not is not that bad. yeah oh I would say a Walk to Remember is the second best one of the ones I've seen, which is like maybe four or five. But there's about 30. Yeah, there's a lot. Yeah.
00:21:04
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Because basically every book he get he writes gets made into a movie. And a lot of them, and again, after the success of the big three, which are The Notebook, Message in a Bottle, and A Walk to Remember, the budgets on these things started to go down and down and down. Yeah. um so that also is, you know, a problem in terms of like, you know, they don't hire as good screenwriters or directors or actors as as some of these other ones, so. There's one with Channing Tatum. I don't know if that one's good. I do love Channing Tatum. that the one where it's about the girl who like runs away? It's got um Julianne Hough in it.
00:21:42
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I have no idea. One of them dies. I'm just guessing because that's kind of his deal. That's his deal. he loves He loves to be like, and I made you fall in love with these characters and now dead.
00:21:53
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And we're all dead. And now one or both of them dies horribly. Yeah. Exactly. um But this is The Notebook. Yeah. ah this is a part of all of our adolescence, really. Yeah. Yeah.
00:22:08
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And it was a star-turning role for Ryan Gosling, as well as the um introduction um of ah Rachel McAdams. Yeah. Her audition tape you can still see online. It's great. She's the best. Speaking of Withering Heights...
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Margot Robbie is quoted. and this is the first of Emma's Fun Facts. Emma's Fun Facts. Margot Robbie just quoted in an interview that um whenever she had to audition back in the day before she was by offer only, um she was inspired by Rachel McAdams Notebook audition because it is an excellent lesson on commitment.
00:22:51
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um So little actors out there, go watch that audition tape. It's pretty great. Yeah. pretty Pretty good example of what you should do in an audition. It's probably on my super fancy special edition box set of The Notebook. Oh, probably. Yeah. Yeah. Did you watch the DVD?
00:23:07
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I did not. um i watched it on streaming because it was easier to do that. Yeah. Same. I also i did a DVD, but i and I also chose to watch it on streaming. I did look through the box, though, while I was watching the movie and like went through everything. its so what it is, is it's a scrapbook. It's a notebook. That's yeah what the the thing is. So, like, you open it up and it has, like, it's got little stickers that are corner stickers, like little frames, like an old-timey scrapbook, where you can take your own photos and put it in and stick and into the notebook with the little stickers.
00:23:44
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That's pretty cute. Yeah. um It is. And there's, like, lobby cards and bookmarks. There's two bookmarks. It's weird. so The 2000s were... The two were a wild time for DVDs. So they were just throwing shit and stuff.
00:23:57
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Yeah. Merch. I've got several fancy editions of of DVD stuff that are like, it's just a bunch of crazy shit in there. um But this movie, this movie takes place in South Carolina. Now, Nicholas Barks is from my home state of North Carolina. Almost all of his books take place there. The book does take place in New Bern, North Carolina. They move the setting In the movie to South Carolina, which is smart because Charleston, South Carolina and the Lowcountry is um one of the most beautiful places in America. um
00:24:35
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And the the Outer Banks are a bit grim sometimes. Yeah. So I think it was a smart choice. South Carolina, um worse politically than North Carolina, but yeah you know, they've got the, the title flats and stuff. So it's pretty nice. Yeah.
00:24:51
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They, they have that whole like antebellum looking houses and stuff. They do. Yeah. North Carolina doesn't really have that.
Exploring Love and Conflict in The Notebook
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Yeah. North Carolina is not the deep South. I mean, I get, I'm sure there were, i'm I'm sure there are some like plantation houses and stuff in there, but like, It's not the same as like Georgia and South Carolina. yeah um That's really the place for that. That's where all the pretty houses are.
00:25:15
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For those bad places that you shouldn't go. Yeah. And you should absolutely not get married there. yeah Don't do it. Yeah. so we open on this beautiful shot of low country outside of Charleston, South Carolina. um Like guy...
00:25:33
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canoeing or or it's like a little it's like a little dinghy yeah it's a little rowboat yeah he's rowing because he rows every morning yeah rowing to the uh old folks home yep um and we have uh we meet gina rolands and james garner um two of the two of the great olds of the early 2000s um category of actor old yeah um James Garner had was famous mostly for television I feel like he was definitely in some movies as well he did some like comedies in the 90s like old person comedies like I know yeah he did it was one I watched when I was a kid that was him and Jack Lemmon where they both played ex-presidents and they were like had a a zany chase across America where they both played former it was called My Fellow Americans yeah
00:26:23
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Oh, cute. Cute, cute, cute. Literally never heard of it. I remember that. He's been in other stuff too. But yeah, he was Maverick, an old Western TV show from like the 60s for a long time. i was his He's most famous for that. But he'd been in lot of other stuff too. yeah He also reminds of my dad. Yeah.
00:26:43
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another one and another one i feel like if it's any old white guy um with like semi balding hair and just like yeah it if you combine james garner wallace sean and who was the other one i can't remember i don't remember either now yeah that's my dad oh God, i don't remember who the other one was. um Yeah. All right.
00:27:10
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Yeah. So um Gina, we've already talked about Gina Rowlands and he's at the, um he's visiting her at the, um you know, senior center, like, oh, not a senior center. It's like, it's a. um yeah It's a retirement home. It's a, it's a retirement home. is it Yeah. I don't think it is. a Is it assisted living? If they're like, I think it's more of a, um like a home, what they would call it. Yeah. Yeah.
00:27:35
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It feels assisted living. It reminded me a lot of where my grandma lived in her final years. um Like fancy smancy assisted living.
00:27:46
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Like you have all the things and there's that come by. My grandma lived in assisted living and assisted living was like, she had her own apartment, which she was in charge of. And I feel like this is not that this is more like a traditional, like what they used to call old folks home, which I suddenly can't like think of what it's called now. airmi facility Like a retirement facility. Yeah. Where it's like, you're in like a room and it's communal and like everything else is like, you're in this place together with these people, as opposed to my grandmother's place, which is like, she had,
00:28:20
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like an emergency call button, like in the bedroom and in the bathroom and stuff like that. But otherwise she could come and go as she pleased, you know, like this is a place where like, you know, if you leave, you have to leave with somebody, you know, it's one of those things. Oh yeah. That's true. Yeah.
00:28:35
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Um, she, she has, they don't say Alzheimer's in the movie. They don't say once. You're just supposed to guess. They, well, they, they say dementia, they say which different thing. Yeah.
00:28:48
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So is dementia not Alzheimer's? Apparently. Like, I mean, this is this the whole thing is this is the Alzheimer's movie, but they're very similar things. And I wrote, I'm already crying when the nurse introduces them. I know! so she ah the james Garner is going to read to her this and it's nineteen forty And she was 17, which makes her 81 and him 83 in the present.
00:29:22
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Gotcha. Gotcha. Gotcha. Thank you for doing the math. Yeah, that's what I'm here for. Inflation calculator and how old everybody is. That's that's what I care about. you care about where the movie's set. You have to know where the movie's set immediately. I gotta know where it's set. I gotta know where it's set. this one does like it's South Carolina immediately. I mean, does it say South Carolina or do we just have to know about the tides? You just have to know by by the look of it. And I did Google at one point, which of the Carolinas?
00:29:48
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Which Carolina is this? Yeah. It's South Carolina. Yeah. And so then we launch into our story of Noah and Allie. Yeah. And we meet um ah Rachel McAdams. This is our third McAdams since 2026 started.
00:30:05
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oh Since 2026 started. well I know we had the morning show or morning glory. And then we had, what was the other one? Whatchamacallit? Eurovision.
00:30:18
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Oh, shoot. Yeah. Yeah.
00:30:23
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We love some McAdams. um And we've got, of course, Ryan Gosling, who this was his his breakout. Like he was he was a a Disney Mouseketeer.
00:30:35
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um And this is pretty much his first like real like part he did. There was some movie where he played a Nazi that came out before this that people were like, oh, he's like a good actor.
00:30:47
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yeah And people point to that, but I've never seen that movie. But this was certainly the first movie for both of them. Well, did Mean Girls come out before this? They came out the same year. No, they came out the same year, but I think this is... This was like... 2004 was the year of for the McAdams.
00:31:01
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So, like, she... I think Notebook came out first. Alright, Mean Girls came out April 30th. And... The Notebook...
00:31:13
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and on June 25th, Mean Girls came out first. Really? Okay. Yeah. yeah I mean, it was probably still in theaters by yeah in June, though. So, yeah. And she also wasn't the lead of Mean Girls.
00:31:26
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Yeah. And, like, they Allie and Regina George look and are completely different. Oh, yeah, yeah, am yeah. Yeah. She's blonde. mean yes Yeah. Yeah. He threatens suicide if she doesn't go out with him, which is just, yeah you know, green flag. Red flag. It's like something that, like, if a boy says that to you when you're 17 years old, like, you should just right fall in love with him immediately. Right. And then stalks you and then, yeah and basically almost attempts suicide in order for you to go out with him. And then gaslights you into making it seem like it's your idea.
00:32:06
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And obsesses about you for the rest of his life. The rest of his life. There is level. From 19 83, he does not give up for one second.
00:32:18
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Geez Louise. It is like there there is a line where it's like, is this love or is this an unhealthy um yeah obsession? He needs some he needs some hobbies or something like. Well, he picks up the hobbies. and No, it's not a hobby. That's that's part of his obsession with her. Like his hobby of woodworking and renovating that house is about her, too.
00:32:41
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Everything's about Allie. We always made it about Allie. We got these two Canadians doing Southern accents in this movie. Yep. And the whole thing is that like they fight all the time, but then they make up and they make out all the time. So as much as they hate each other, they love each other just as much because it's like they'll fight one second and then their faces are smushed together the next.
00:33:03
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Which, like, ah certainly we've all had a relationship like that. yes like It's not a healthy relationship in any way. No, no, not necessarily. I've never had, like, an actual relationship like that, but I definitely had, like, a friend that there I had a lot of sexual attention with, and we would, like, make fun of each other all the time, and we would, like...
00:33:24
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yell at each other and we so we didn't we never I never said that we never that we hated each other or anything but like there was always this tension between us and sometimes we would like like get into an argument and then start making out that happened at least twice Yeah.
00:33:39
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Yeah. Yeah. yeah um And it's just hot. But like, that's not a relationship. That's not the best. never dated, you know, in your entire life about. no, no, no, no. It's another red flag. Like, that was my first thought at the beginning of this movie. I was like, because like, when you watch this, when you're young, you're just like, oh, my God.
00:33:58
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So romantic. So, oh, swoon, swoon, swoon. One of the swooniest movies of all time. And also, it doesn't hurt that they're two of the most beautiful people in the world in 2004. And honestly, still today. They're both doing great. They're hot. Super hot. Major hotties, Rachel McAdams and Ryan Gosling, take it from bisexual.
00:34:23
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Yes, yes, yes, yes. um and But like re-watching it as an adult, and it's just like, wow. I was just like, these both of these main characters are so insufferable. like They're so obnoxious. They're pretty obnoxious. She is just ridiculous, and then he is just so stupid and is just like obsessed with her to an unhealthy degree. And and she's just like, wah, wah, wah.
00:34:55
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That's my impression of Allie in the notebook. she's you know She's young, and she' said yeah she's inexperienced, and it's 1940. She hasn't had a relationship with anybody before. Yeah. yeah She's 17. Yeah, it's all new to her Yeah. um I wrote Manic Pixie Dream Boy. Like, is there...
00:35:18
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Like, is there a better example of a Manic Pixie Dream Boy than whatever his name is? Noah? Noah? Noah, yeah. um I feel like yes, because he still sucks.
00:35:33
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Well, right. I mean, that's the thing. But that's the thing about Manic Pixie Dream Girls, too. Like, they're they're not real. Like, the the the male fantasy of this woman who is going to...
00:35:46
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change your, a sad boy's life, right? That that's it's this fantasy, this male fantasy of this woman who is like so weird and like carefree and like teaches you how to like live your life better. And like, you know, um, like gets you out of your shell. Like the female fantasy is this like obsessive, right? This obsessive guy who will literally anything for you, who will kill for Exactly. Exactly. Who will build a house for you, who will. And like, even after, even if you change your mind, cause like, you know, Semper Femina, right? Like, yeah. Um,
00:36:27
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Like, even if you change your mind and then change your mind back, he's there waiting for you again. And he never gives up. And he's also like, and he like works with his hands and he like saws boards and stuff and like sanding wood. And like and he can give you your first orgasm and then 10,000 orgasms after that, which is exactly what they depicted in this film.
00:36:52
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Yes, yes. um So I feel like that is ah ah that's a good example of the the opposite. The the manic pixie dream boy. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:37:05
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But he's not a pixie because he's a, he's, Ryan Gosling, Ryan Gosling is one of those people who I think seems short, but then you look him up and it says he's six one so Yeah, yeah. He's super tall. Yeah. He's got the personality of a tall guy.
00:37:17
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I don't know. I just, one of those guys where it's like, he's a short guy, right? But he's not. no um ah lay down in the street and watch the lights change. Also not a great thing to do. nope On their first date that he has gaslit her into, he takes her to the the middle of the road and i they lie down in the street. Such as such a Zooey Deschanel move. like right Come on, let's go lie down in the road. like right and he She's like, well, what happens if a car comes? and He goes, well, then we die.
00:37:51
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and I was like, what? No. There are better ways. He doesn't we die. He says they'll stop or something like that.
00:38:00
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I got, well, then we die. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then they dance in the street, which is when I first started. Billie Holiday's I'll Be Seeing You, which is, again, like, Billie Holiday opens her mouth and, like, it's it's over. Yeah, yeah. And then I, that's when I started to get emotional. and then And then we go back to them being insufferable around each other and being obnoxious teens. And she doesn't care. just She has no cares in the world. Yeah.
00:38:25
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And you get all these montages of like them with their like two little friends, Finn and i forget the girl's name. And Dottie, Dottie, Finn and Dottie.
00:38:37
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I don't know. just made up a nineteen forty s name. I was like, that sounds right. um edge Yeah. And, you know, she's doing things that she's never been able to do before. Like, you know, jump and swim in lakes. And yeah. Yeah. She painted him a picture. he's reciting Whitman. Yeah, she meets his dad. She helps him with his stutter. ah I wrote Manic Pixie Dream Dad also. His dad is the great Sam Shepard, Pulitzer Prize winning playwright Sam Shepard, who appears in this movie but did not did not write this movie. So we can't add it to the list of rom-coms written by ah Pulitzer Prize winning playwrights. But he doesn't appear in this briefly. The great Sam Shepard.
00:39:20
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And he's so good. And he's the best. He's just yeah a great dad. Yep. Yep. He loves his son. He loves his son. He loves his daughter or his daughter.
00:39:32
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He loves his son. he loves his son's girlfriend. ah And they're barely making it. yeah They've got this like, you know, shotgun shack that they live in. And yep. Yep.
00:39:44
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But they're happy. there and We have the beach scene with her in her bathing suit with the headband, which I love. Yeah. And this is the, if I'm a bird, you're a bird, which is like, i don't know why I started crying.
00:39:59
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Yep. Katie started crying. I saw it and I was just like, oh my God, red flag. she ah. No, I get it. i get it. Like some of us are just a little more poetic, you know? Okay. Okay.
00:40:12
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but It was just like all of the like obnoxiousness of the two of them. Then you get this the scene and I'm like, if I saw her doing this, if I was on that beach and I just saw her, I'd be like, oh.
00:40:25
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Oh, no. um ah Then we meet her parents who are cartoon characters. Essentially cartoon characters. Yeah. Cartoon villains.
00:40:37
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Yeah. Joan Allen and some man ah plays her dad. With ridiculous mustache. he's He's ridiculous. Like, he's like, well, now, see you here, I can't approve of this here wedding.
00:40:51
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Yeah. ah I look like the KFC man before he turned gray. Yes, yes, very much so, yes. ha um And Joan Allen, who's a great actor yeah and is so good at at playing that kind of restraint and like simmering under the surface. If I'm sure you've seen Pleasantville, right?
00:41:14
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Yes, yeah. Love Pleasantville. Fuck, Joan Allen. Incredible performance in Pleasantville. Really underrated movie, I think. um Love it. But um very much very similar kind of like like this this facade that cracks throughout that. yeah um And the same thing kind of happens in this movie where the the two of them don't approve of him because he's poor and she's going to Sarah Lawrence in the fall and she didn't tell Ryan Gosling that.
00:41:40
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Yep. And... ah she's ah he's He's upset by this, obviously. Yeah. But he pushed the past, and he's just like, okay, whatever. Well, yeah, first they gotta have sex. Yeah. yeah Yeah.
00:41:55
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Yeah. And then they go... put, again... So, God, I should have taken better notes. I thought I was gonna record... i I watched this the night before we were supposed to record, then I was, like, halfway through it when you texted me that we weren't recording. So, I've just got...
00:42:09
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hands on her boobs moves them away you want to go somewhere which like yeah kind remember that now i don't know yeah that's that's what because she rides her bike to his house and then they start making out because they're that's how they greet each other is they just stick each other's tongues in each other's mouths and the relationship you had when you were 17 is like is that not what you did No, yeah, that's, it which is like, hindsight, watching it, it's so cringy, but like, it is very real.
00:42:39
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don't think it's cringy. I think that it's, I think it's real. And like, here's the thing, like, it is, the thing about this movie is that the idea that this relationship lasted until their 80s is what's, is what's cringe and and not, and not realistic. the The relationship that they have when they're 17, I think is very real and oh yeah sweet and like,
00:43:00
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and sweet because it can't last. But that's not really where the direction this that book goes. Nope, not at all. It goes really hard in the opposite direction. um And then they go to, he's like, he takes her to that um super old ah falling apart plantation house.
00:43:18
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And he's like, one day I'm going to buy this and going to fix it up. And then they play house and then they they go to make, to to like do it. um And ah she she gets cold feet.
00:43:32
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And I thought this was the funniest scene in the movie because I was like so relatable. Well, she says, I'm going to need you to talk me through this. I've been having a lot of thoughts, which is like exactly what you say. Like the first time you you have sex. Like, I just, I don't know. Yeah. And it's just like, I just can't stop thinking. And and then you just sort of like verbal diarrhea. and then. Yeah. Well, that's also, she doesn't stop talking, which you and I, i think, um really understand that. Yeah. Relatable. Yeah. ah And then the as they like take a break and he's just like trying to calm her down, Finn runs in and he goes, Allie's dad, Allie's parents have the cops out looking for her.
00:44:15
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It's a big deal. We got to get back to her house. And so she runs home and they have apparently every single police officer in this small town in South Carolina at their house. Well, they're rich, you know? Yeah.
00:44:27
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Yeah. And um she runs in and um you don't realize how much time has passed ah while they were almost banging. But it is now like 2 a.m.
00:44:38
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It's either like 2 or 3 yeah yeah yeah when so like her parents are freaking out which you know understandable and um then they take her into daddy's office and uh while ryan gosling is in the other room and basically joan allen yells at her about how trashy ryan gosling is and how she does not need she should not be with him and she should break up with him and uh Her parents have never read a book or seen a movie before.
00:45:11
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um Because so they don't know that telling your kid you can't see this boy is the number one way to make her run to him. The number one way. The number one way.
00:45:22
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Which she turns around and she tries to do that. And he's just like, you're leaving. um and she says she says, you don't look at daddy the way I look at Noah, which is like, oof. Yeah, woof.
00:45:36
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rude. Yeah. Because i in in my own way, like, I do love her parents' relationship. I think it's very sweet because they do have, like, you don't normally see, like, the stuffy old, the stuffy parent, rich person's parents, like, in a very loving relationship.
00:45:56
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And, like, they go out dancing and, like, they they joke around at the dinner table and, you know, they're just trying to control their teenage daughter. Yeah, but like she doesn't look at him that way because he is he's not her true love according to the the the metrics set down in this book. Like it's a very conservative kind of understanding of love in in the story of this where it's like – You have this one person and you have to, if you meet them when you're 17, you got to stay with them for the rest of your life or you're going to be, you know, oh you'll you' you'll always, you'll always regret it. Right. Because I mean, that's the thing. Like later on, we find out that like Joan Allen had this man at the very same construction site where Noah was. same town in the very same construction site. And she didn't think to mention it until the, And yeah she still pines for him. So she doesn't, they don't have this great relationship because i mean, maybe like they, they do, they you can be happy with somebody, but like, if she's still pining for this other man, like, you know, that's not, that's not the kind of love that, that the notebook has.
00:47:09
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believes everyone should have, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The notebook wants you to have your one soulmate for the rest of your life. yeah Can you imagine if you were still with the person you, you were dating when you were 17 years old?
00:47:22
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My God, my life would be a hot damn mess. Yeah. And I mean, some people that, that happens, you know, um'm high school sweethearts are a thing, but like, uh, boy, oh boy. boy Absolutely ridiculous.
00:47:41
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um So World War II happens. yeah He volunteers. World War II happens. She goes to Sarah Lawrence and he writes her a letter every day, but Joan Allen intercepts them and doesn't give them to her. I don't know why she didn't throw them away.
00:47:57
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nope she keeps them all. Like a weird...
00:48:03
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Yeah. she's she She volunteers to be a nurse's aide and she meets James Marsden in a body cast. His name he is, he has the unlikely name of Lon Hammond.
00:48:14
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Lon. Lon. And he's so sweet and he's so wonderful and he's the perfect man. yeah He is nice. and He loves her. He's rich.
00:48:24
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Yeah. They go see All the Town together. yeah um ah And then they get engaged. Yeah. yeah And he comes back from the war. Stupid Finn gets killed in World War II, obviously. Yep.
00:48:37
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Obviously, knew that going to happen. Sam Shepard, much like Noah, has decided that um The only thing that's important to him is the relationship between him and Rachel McAdams. Yeah. Yeah. He has no interests or cares in the world no except for that. He sells his own house to give Ryan Gosling the money to buy the house for Rachel McAdams. Also in that one night where they almost have sex but don't. she describes the house that she wants, right? White with blue shutters and a wraparound porch and blah, blah, blah, blah. blah
00:49:11
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. And Sam Shepard's like, I sold the house. She goes, where you going to live? He goes, I'll live with you while we're working on the house. Yeah. And then he dies promptly for no reason. He dies immediately.
00:49:23
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There's too many characters. We got to slim it down. We got to really slim it down as we're getting into like the crux of what's going on here. Yeah. um ah He is, we starts working on the house years past. He sees her because she lives in Charleston and they're in this coastal town. That's a little bit, I think outside of the city of Charleston. Yeah.
00:49:44
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And he'll get some permits for working on the house. And he sees her on the street when he's on the bus. And he forces the bus driver to make an illegal move and stop the bus before they get keep He gets off the moving bus, actually, because the bus driver won't stop. Yeah.
00:49:59
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um And he sees her kissing James Marsden. Yeah. And then more time passes. He puts the house. He finishes the house. He puts it up for sale.
00:50:10
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But he won't sell it. won't sell it. He grows a really sad depression. Depression must beard. A depression beard. ah And starts banging local. Poor Martha Shaw.
00:50:23
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A local widow. Like, she deserves better. he really does. All she wants to do is, like, spend time with Noah, and he doesn't want to do anything except bang her.
00:50:35
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And he does not care about her in the least. Yeah. yeah And um I wrote little red suit she wears to his office.
00:50:46
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I'm assuming that's about Rachel McAdams. Like, oh yeah, yeah. That's the, so Rachel McAdams, she, she sees, so they take Noah's picture because he finishes the house and it's in the newspaper and she's at her bridal shower and um they're reading the sort of like announcement, wedding announcement in the paper of her and Lawn?
00:51:07
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Lawn. Lawn. It's short for laundry. Lawn. Which is also a terrible name.
00:51:18
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um But yeah, and so then she undoes the fold and ah beneath the fold is the picture of Noah and because they took they put him in the paper because he this is a historic house and he bought it.
00:51:34
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refurbished it and it's it's the new story and she sees it and she faints and then she has the scene that i've always wanted to where she's got a glass of champagne she's wearing her veil and she is just in the bathtub messing around with the hot tap uh and she's just sort of like spiraling so she feels that she has to go get some closure
Themes of Memory and Love in The Notebook
00:51:58
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and go see Noah.
00:52:01
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So she goes to Lon's office where he does stuff with numbers and stock. He's a lawyer. No, no, you're right. You're right. Yeah. He's no, he's a, he's like a, he does like stocks and stuff. Yeah. He does stock.
00:52:15
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And, um, she goes, uh, she walks in and he was like, what are you doing here? It's very lovely to see you. I'm so glad that you're here. She's like, I'm so sorry. i should have called. And he's like, no, no, no, no.
00:52:29
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And he's like, what's, why are you here randomly in the middle of the day? And she goes, instead of explaining what's going on, she goes, I used to paint.
00:52:41
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And I don't paint anymore. I don't paint anymore. Yeah. um Which is a thing. Like it is something that. That definitely can happen, especially, um you know, when you're when you're depressed or whether it's relationship based or anything else. Like there's little things that kind of like fall away from.
00:53:02
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from your From your activities, from your um from your life, things that were once important that become less important over time. And sometimes, you know, you can recapture those things and sometimes you don't. Yeah. Yeah. yeah But it is, um she's, things aren't great with her emotionally. Emotionally, she's spiraling. And she's like, I gotta, I gotta go to this little teeny tiny town I used to summer at.
00:53:24
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i So I'm to be gone for a couple days. Don't worry about me. And he goes, should I be worried? And she goes, no. No, no, no, no. Because she does. She genuinely loves Lon with, you know, not all of her heart, but she genuinely loves him. Yeah. And she puts it perfectly in that she's two different people when she's with Lon and when she is with Noah.
00:53:46
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Yeah. They're two different, completely different people. um And so she goes, she goes down to the little town and ah she goes to Noah's house and- ah He looks a fright.
00:54:02
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he Yep. He's got his little crunchy depression beard. And um she's like, I saw your picture in the paper, so I had to come.
00:54:12
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ah And then she he doesn't say anything. And then she goes, oh, I'm i'm a stupid woman. I've got to go. And then she crashes her car into his fence.
00:54:23
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Yeah. And then she. Not a euphemism. Nope, not a euphemism. Literally. ah Because it is sort of like ah a D story that she's a terrible driver. Like all women.
00:54:34
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Like all women. Terrible driver. And he's like, do you want to come in and eat some dinner? And she's like, yeah, sure. And so then they they sit and they they eat dinner and drink beer and they're like reminiscing about stuff. And and they're still sort of like walking on eggshells around each other.
00:54:53
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so like things just aren't, they aren't like really them yet um yeah in terms of like they haven't gotten back to like their natural tete-a-tete sort of. And then we cut back to the the present, to 2004. Yes.
00:55:09
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and which Which happens a few times. so if It happens a few times. Yeah. um But this is the weird one where they're, because it'll be like, and she's like asking him questions and she, and he's like, oh, well, we're going to finish the story or whatever. yeah And the nurse comes in and says, the kids are here. And she says to Gina Rowlands, not yours, kids.
00:55:31
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Yeah. Which I've never understood because that's a lie. They are her kids. Yep. And I understand there's things about not shocking people with dementia and everything, but I don't feel like you would outright lie like that. I don't feel like you outright lie. Because- The point of this movie slash book, which is, i think it's, I don't think it's a twist. I think it's it's very obvious from the very beginning of this yeah movie that this story is the two of them and she doesn't remember.
00:56:00
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But I think the idea is that they're trying to throw you off the trail. I think that the book does this differently because of the structure of it.
00:56:12
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Mm-hmm. because it is a book, it's a little easier for that to be a true twist. And I think one of the reasons the book was so successful was because that twist like works when you read it. Of course, I read the book after I saw the movie, so I can't tell for certain. just You knew, for sure. I believe that that is, it's a little, it's not as foreshadowed. They come in and the kids are all sort of like, you know, there's something weird about them. They're all just sort of like, hi lady, who's definitely not my mom. Um, she leaves and they immediately are like, what's wrong? Like, how's mom doing? You know, like we, yeah they're not hiding it from the audience, really.
00:56:52
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yeah Um, but, uh, they're, they're telling him that like, you need to come home because you're fine and she's not. You don't need to stay here all the time because he lives at the, at the home yeahp with her, even though he doesn't need to be, he just is there for her, so which like,
00:57:12
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I get honestly. It's very sweet. It's very, very sweet. um And they're like, come home. And he's like, your mother is my home. Yeah. Which is also very, very sweet. Yeah. And then he rose her through um Cypress Gardens, which is a place that I've been to. Oh, you've been there? oh yeah. Yeah. it's ah It's a tourist attraction in South Carolina.
00:57:33
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and it is. It's. fucking magnificent. It is. yeah um It's a bunch of cypress trees in like a swamp, basically. But like, what if a swamp were beautiful? Yeah. And...
00:57:46
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In this one, it's absolutely fucking balls to the wall with geese. Yep. Like just hundreds of geese in the water, um ah which is like, it is, it's it's just, it's a place that doesn't look like anywhere else. Like it's one of those like alien landscape kind of things. It's these trees growing out of the water and they're all, it's just, it's gorgeous. And this is where- That's what call production value. Production value. This is where we get Charlie's Corner. Charlie's Corner. Charlie's Corner.
00:58:15
Speaker
Charlie's Corner. Gov'n up! Gov'n up! Now, surely he had seen this before. had never seen this. This was his first time watching it. Fucking crazy. Fucking crazy. I know. I know. know. How did you not force him to watch this? Like, years ago. Because, like, when are you ever like, oh, I want to sit down and willfully watch The Notebook and destroy myself emotionally? Yeah. Good point. The Notebook is not a movie that you like get your boyfriend to watch. It's a movie that you watch alone with, in my case, like a big bag of potato chips. Yeah. In like a more stereotypical place, like a tub of ice cream or something. Yeah. What my friend Robert and I used to do was every Valentine's Day because we were notoriously single in college.
00:58:59
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We would go to CVS and we would buy two parts of chocolate each and And there would be one heart for eating and one heart for throwing.
00:59:09
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And we would throw the chocolate at the TV all la um while watching the notebook a la Elwood style and yeah ah scream liar!
00:59:21
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yeah um Because it was fun. um It was our little tradition. ah But so Charlie had never seen this before. We get to this scene and keep in mind, I...
00:59:35
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had some like late nights and early morning this past week. Yeah. So like I was squeezing this in after work and then like had to like get up early. So like I didn't really want to like stop and start the movie, you know, and he goes, oh, you know, I just read this really interesting fact about the scene, Emma.
00:59:50
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Can we go back? And so we rewind it to when they're in the, um, in that little area with all the geese he goes so did you know that um in this shot and he pauses it he goes did you know in this shot that there is a um uh a little baby gosling and i was like what ah guess it's a it'sur real dad joke charlie ryan gosling it was a young ryan gosling and yep That was hilarious. It's not. It's not hilarious. Yeah.
01:00:29
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Sorry, Charlie. Yeah.
01:00:32
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So then they have to leave and it starts to rain. And he's like, well, we got to get back. Sure. Starts to rain. Sexily. And it's absolutely pouring there in the boat.
01:00:43
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And she's trying to like keep herself warm, but it's pointless. And then they get back to the dock and she has the, this is the infamous scene, the famous scene where she just out of nowhere, she goes, why didn't you write to me?
01:00:58
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And she was like, I cried myself to sleep every day because did- waited for seven years, she says. Yeah, I waited for seven years. Seven years. And so he goes, I wrote you 365 letters. I wrote wrote you every day for a year.
01:01:17
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And then everyone just melts. Yeah. And he goes, it's not over. it It was never over. And they smush faces. And- ah Basements across America flood simultaneously. yeah um ah Yep, yep, yep.
01:01:35
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Ends the banging montage. throws her against some walls. Yeah, they're all wet. I wrote, they fuck a bunch. Oh, whole bunch. Whole bunch to the point to where he's like, you gotta you got you gotta stop, Allie. I gotta get some food.
01:01:52
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They're dehydrating themselves. Yeah, exactly. Because they can't stop banging. ah Martha Shaw comes over and he's like, yeah, we're not doing this anymore, Martha Shaw. Yeah.
01:02:02
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And she's like, she takes it very well. And she goes, that's the woman that you're in love with. Cool. Bye. Glad I got to meet her. Um, ah that he made her a painting studio in the house. Yes. And he like does it like a cute little he goes to like get breakfast and she leaves her a little note and like little arrows to to surprise her with a painting studio.
01:02:24
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And she decides to paint naked. Yeah. Why not? Why not? At the same moment, her mom shows up. Mm hmm. Yeah. um ah Her mom stole the letters. um And then she's like, come take a ride with me. Let's go down to the construction site and let me show you the man that I love. Let me show you this man um who was going to be my Noah, but I made the right choice.
01:02:51
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Yeah. Because Lon is on his way down to um the little coastal town because her dad spilled the beans about Noah And told Lon. Lon wasn't worried. Now Lon's very worried.
01:03:07
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And he's on his way. yeah Yes. Yeah. um And he basically says, you know, you wouldn't be here if you weren't missing something, which is true.
01:03:17
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Yeah. Very, very true. And they say that they fight because they're so passionate. Red flag. Yeah, exactly. you should I mean, that's not to say, ah here's the thing.
01:03:29
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You should never fight. Like when you never, when you never fight, that means you don't ah care enough to have like an argument about something, but like always fighting is also not good. That's also not great. There should be a balance and you should communicate.
01:03:47
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And yeah. Yeah. And so basically this all lays out in that Allie has a choice. um Yes. She can either choose Noah and give up her life in Charleston and completely start over, but she is with Noah.
01:04:04
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Or she can go back to Lon and And yeah forget that all of this ever happened and move on and go be the person that her parents want her to be.
01:04:15
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um And so she like goes and she talks to Lon and um who is very wonderful about it because he's the best character in this fucking movie. he cares. He cares more about her than he does about himself. I mean, that's exactly. and he's like, he's asked, what do you want? He says, don't think about us. Think about you. What do you want?
01:04:34
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Yeah. And she almost wrecks the car and then she starts reading the letters. Yeah. and she The best love is the kind that awakens the soul and makes us reach for more that plants fire to our hearts.
01:04:47
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And brings peace to our minds. I think there may have been an autocorrect in there. But that's what it says. Yeah. yeah And she's crying. And everybody's crying. Because it's so beautiful.
01:04:58
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She says she feels like a different person with the two of them. Which is like extremely real. Like you become a different person with different partners. Like you. That's true of everybody. Like you kind of. Like the parts of you that you know go with this person are going to come out more when you're with that person. And the parts that.
01:05:16
Speaker
You know, go with somebody else, go with somebody else. i mean, everybody has so much. Everybody's personality is so complicated. You're you're more, everybody's more than one thing. So like. Exactly. the The things that that you do that compliment or go with one person, like have more prevalence when you're with that person.
01:05:34
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Exactly. um And then we cut back to the present. yeah And then I cried again. Yep. And she's because he like has to stop because it's getting cold.
01:05:45
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So um James Garner has to stop reading. And she goes, but who did she choose? Who did she choose? And. um Wait, do we get.
01:05:57
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Yeah. No, she came, she comes to him. Should show that she comes to him? yeah Yeah. Yeah. I was going to say like, is that before or after their romantic dinner? where then I started hyperventilating crying. Okay. That's what When they start singing, I'll be seeing you. When they start, they play, I'll be seeing you by this time by Jimmy Durante. And they start dancing. They have the little romantic dinner.
01:06:19
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And she remembers. Oh, that's how it happens because it's over dinner that she's like, but who did he choose? And then you see the like cut to her going back to Noah and really cute of her like shrugging and being like, well, I guess this is it.
01:06:33
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And um he, and then it flashes back and she figures it out and she goes, oh, I remember. And all of a sudden she's she's remembering everything and they dance and they kiss and she goes, I remember, I remember.
01:06:49
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And they, ah and then I'm sobbing and hyperventilating. And then um she's like, how much time do we have? And he's like a few minutes. um And yeah,
01:07:01
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And then it's over and she's gone again. Yeah. and all of a sudden can't remember. She freaks out. They have to sedate her. And the doctor is like a real asshole. ah home Cause he tells James Garner earlier in the film, when he goes for a checkup, he goes,
01:07:18
Speaker
you can't You can't make magic happen. You can't fix her. it It's a degenerative disease. it's yeah he's The doctor's a real piece of shit. He's a real piece of shit. He's relentlessly cruel to this man for no real reason. Stupid. Give up on love. He's like, you should leave your wife alone.
01:07:40
Speaker
Leave her alone. He's a shit. um And then there's the pictures of the two of them and I'm sobbing and it's that like, you realize that yeah she put the notebook together. It says, yeah yeah and I'll come back.
01:07:53
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Yes.
01:07:57
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Holy Christ. James Garner gets a heart attack and he gets rushed. yes. He's had two previous heart attacks um already. Yeah. Yep.
01:08:08
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And so you think that he's dead, but he's not dead. He's just in the hospital. And she's also in the hospital because she's gotten worse. And it's a really sad moment where he's being like, like rushed in on the stretcher and she doesn't recognize him. She's with the nurse.
01:08:22
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And, um, and then he gets up to go for like a little midnight walk. He goes to go see her and the nurse goes, where do you think you're going? And he's like, I'm just going on little walk. Don't worry about me. And she goes, well, I'm going to go get some coffee.
01:08:37
Speaker
You shouldn't be out walking by yourself, but I'm going to go get some coffee and not check on you for a very long time. And I'm going to be gone for a very long time. And she like already had her right there.
01:08:48
Speaker
She's just giving him an in to go yeah see his wife. And so he goes and he crawls into bed with her and she remembers him. And um they they lie there together. And um it happens.
01:09:06
Speaker
It's really wonderful and it's magical and basically they die together in each other's arms. And it's really sweet. Here's my problem movie. Go on. She says one of the most ridiculous lines in the history of cinema.
01:09:21
Speaker
She says, do you think our love can cause miracles? Oh, yeah. And I'm like, what the fuck are you talking about?
01:09:34
Speaker
And it's played so straight. it's play it's like It's like, oh my god, if you just hadn't said that, like what's yeah wrong with you? um And he's like, yes. and she's like And she remembers him, and then for no reason, they just die together. They just die.
01:09:50
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The nurse comes in the next morning and finds the two of them dead and is like smiles softly to herself. Because they die together in each other's arms. Yeah, listen, I get it. I'm like, I wrote that's the only way for any happy story to any, any love story to end happily because that's the thing. It's like death cab for cutie told us, you know, love is watching someone die. Like best case scenario.
01:10:13
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I watch you die or you watch me die. Like yeah that's the best other die. That's the best possible thing that can happen at the end of any like relationship. So yeah dying simultaneously in your sleep,
01:10:26
Speaker
is literally the best possible, happiest possible ending for any love story.
Emotional Reactions and Personal Stories
01:10:32
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Yes. However... I find it hard to swallow in this movie. It's just so, I think it's i think it really leaves the movie on it on a bad note. The book ends with the same exact scene happening where she's like, go see her. I'm going to go get a coffee. And he goes in there and they bang. And that's the end of the yeah. I was going to say, don't they bang?
01:10:55
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They bang at the end of the notebook in the book. It's what I heard. And the other thing in the book is that she remembers him for hours and they stay up all night talking and reminiscing. Oh,
01:11:06
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All of this happens. And then like, then he has the heart attack and they're, they're apart. And then he comes back to her. And as soon as she sees him, she recognizes him. And then they start banging. And that's the end of the book.
01:11:16
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It is yeah one of the very few Nicholas Sparks novels that doesn't end with anybody dying. Although. To be fair, it is deeply sad in other ways. Yes. I was going like someone once told me that they bang each other to death at the end of it. No, they don't necessari they don't die at the end of the book. Okay. I remember. Or at least they don't say it. like But yeah, they just start having sex and that's the end of the book. What I think should happen at the end of the movie is, yes.
01:11:45
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They bang each other to death. They have this moment. um He sees her. She doesn't remember him again. Yeah. he gets into the boat. He does his rowing. He comes back and he's like, let me read you a story. And he's just going to do it all over again. And I think that's a much more beautiful ending. That is a much more beautiful ending. Yeah. Like, we don't need – they don't need to die.
01:12:06
Speaker
They don't – it's – do you think that our love can cause miracles is like just – Oh, man. I wish I could cut that out of this movie so hard. Miracles.
01:12:18
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um I will say at the end of this, i was hyperventilating sobbing. Oh, listen. I was also sobbing. Like, it's not like it doesn't work. Yeah. No, it works. It works.
01:12:30
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And so I turned to Charlie and... um I asked if I could share this story and he said, absolutely. um he said, it's totally fine.
01:12:41
Speaker
And so I turned to Charlie as I'm hypervailing, sobbing, going, I don't ever want to forget you. And then he starts sobbing and then we both are holding each other crying. And I'm just like, oh. It was very, it was a sweet little moment. um he Definitely. Definitely.
01:12:59
Speaker
Definitely um had that experience before watching this movie with Caitlin. Yeah. You know, before we broke up. Yeah. And now I watch it alone on my couch oh where I'll be forever.
01:13:10
Speaker
no you'll find your Noah. Well, actually, no, maybe you'll find your lawn. um ah Yeah, we'll see. um i'm I'm not dating anybody ever again. you know We don't need you in a relationship with a guy with a thousand red flags who's unhealthily obsessed with you.
01:13:28
Speaker
ah um No, no, no, thank you. Yeah, yeah, no, thank you. um And that's The Notebook. That is The Notebook. And we're not going to make a we're not going to watch a movie that's going to make us sob like this for the rest of the year, I promise.
01:13:42
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ah Yeah, TBD. God damn
Upcoming Movie and Podcast Closing
01:13:45
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it, Emma.
01:13:48
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TBD. ah What are we doing next week? Next week, we are watching some trash. Yeah, love trash. We are going to watch Sweet Home Alabama, our first Reese Witherspoon rom-com, because Legally Blonde is not rom-com.
01:14:06
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It's not a rom-com, but it's not our first Reese. No, it's not our first Reese, but it is our first Reese rom-com, and It's not good. love it. We should have plenty to talk about. Oh, great. Even better, then.
01:14:20
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Yeah. I love Sweet Home Alabama. Okay. But it is not good. Okay, good good. Yeah, fair enough. Yeah. Can't wait. Shall we outro? Let's outro.
01:14:32
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01:14:47
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