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Goal Line: Super Bowl Edition
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The boys hand out their year end awards before diving into their Super Bowl preview!
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Celebrating Season One Success
00:00:14
Speaker
What is up, Gold Line listeners? We are back with another episode of, you know, I'm going to say it, the best football podcast out there, man. We made it a whole season. I think I haven't heard one negative thing about this show. So, you know, if there are haters out there that keep their mouth shut, I don't know, man, I'm feeling pretty good about where we're at with our first season pretty much in the books now. How
Why Jordan Dislikes the Chiefs
00:00:33
Speaker
about you, Jordan? Yeah, man.
00:00:35
Speaker
Same with you. I haven't heard anything negative other than my hatred of the Kansas City Chiefs. So everyone around here is like, why do you hate the Chiefs so bad? And I was like, you, you're why I hate the Chiefs.
00:00:47
Speaker
I've asked Jordan that several times over the last couple of years, man, you know, I kind of, I was hardcore football and then my interest in it waned a little bit, but over the last like two to three years, I'm back in it really kind of deeper than ever, man. Um, and yeah, that's definitely been something I constantly question Jordan on, but you know, he's explained there's a lot of obnoxious bandwagon, uh, cheese fans where he's at. And that would definitely be irritating, especially if you're a diehard of the, uh, the Atlanta football Falcons. Exactly. That's exactly the reason. Just cause I'm a Falcons fan.
Defining the Season Finale
00:01:18
Speaker
All right, so one game left to go, man. It's the big one, the Super Bowl. Is this the season one finale for us, man? I mentioned that to Sheena today when we were talking about just the setup for this. Said we were recording the season finale of Goal Line. She was like, well, wouldn't next week be the season finale? So I don't know. In your brain, what's the finale for season one, man? Is it this one or is it the post Super Bowl episode? It's the post Super Bowl because we've got to wrap the whole season up in a bow. So yeah, definitely next week.
00:01:46
Speaker
Cool. Yeah, that makes sense. And that could be
Year-End Awards Announcement
00:01:48
Speaker
season one and then we'll kind of roll into off season goal line. And then I guess we'll kick off season two maybe when training camp opens. Sounds like a plan.
00:01:57
Speaker
All right, so this week, not a whole lot of news to discuss. But in lieu of that, we are going to bring you guys our year end awards for the goal line podcast. They are like the real NFL. They're going to be weighted heavily for the regular season, but we are factoring in a little bit of postseason, you know, if it was a tiebreaker on something. But yeah, we'll run through those. Jordan, you get anything else for housekeeping, man?
00:02:21
Speaker
Um, no, it just, uh, mind you, it is 10 o'clock on a Friday night and me and Seth have, uh, been drinking a few. So maybe, maybe don't let the kids listen to this episode. Yeah. Life we've typically, I think almost, I think every podcast we did this year was on a Monday night. When we got the playoffs, we did a couple of, uh, of Tuesdays, man. This is the latest in the week. Just life kind of just kept popping up this week, man. So.
00:02:46
Speaker
So I ended up getting it pushed back. So yeah, we should be back to most likely Monday nights throughout the offseason as well. Let's get into it, man. Let's hand out some awards.
00:03:06
Speaker
Alright, if you are also a chick Foley show listener, I know we got a ton of Foley fam that hops over here to the goal line. If that music sounds suspiciously similar to the chickies theme music from a couple weeks ago on that podcast, it's just your mind playing tricks on you. Yeah, it's not one in the same. Oh, yeah, we're big budget over here. We're not we're not recycling any any music on the show.
00:03:29
Speaker
Yeah, we got the budget all laid out for the next two seasons. So don't think we're shortchanging anybody.
Rookie of the Year Highlights
00:03:38
Speaker
All right. Let's start off with offensive rookie of the year. You go first. It's got to be CJ Stroud, man. He just, the impact, he crushed it, man. He was, I mean, he took the Texans from one of the, the laughing stocks of the league to, uh, to, you know,
00:03:57
Speaker
last until halftime of the division around to the playoffs, man. I mean, they were tied with the, uh, with the Ravens at halftime in the second round on in Baltimore. And, and just, I think he's lifted up that entire franchise. It's not that entire city spirits with his performance.
00:04:12
Speaker
Yeah, it's, I mean, I get the argument for Puca. I get it. Like he had an incredible season, but I mean, picking anybody other than CJ Stroud seems like a big mistake here. Like he was absolutely incredible. I talked about it a couple of weeks ago about, was this the best season we ever saw by a rookie quarterback? And I would still say yes. I mean, just based on what we saw this season out of him, I think that was definitely the best rookie season we've ever seen out of a quarterback. And, uh,
00:04:42
Speaker
Yeah, I'm looking forward to see what he does in the next couple of years. Cause that team is built to win. Um, they need to fill a couple of spots, but yeah, CJ shroud was incredible this year.
00:04:52
Speaker
Yeah, if there was a rookie offensive player of the year, I think it's Puca in a landslide, right? Because he was just so freaking productive from week one all the way through the playoffs, man. Just really, really impressive by him. But yeah, like I said, man, CJ Stroud has got the... If you're a Houston Texans fan right now, the sky is the absolute limit. They're absolutely... I mean, they could be intended for a Super Bowl next season, realistically.
00:05:18
Speaker
Yeah, it is. We talked about this a couple of times this season about going all in on your guys and.
00:05:29
Speaker
look no further than the Texans, man. They targeted the two guys they wanted in the draft and they made sure they got both of them and it worked out. I think a lot of teams overthink it in the draft and always are worried about next season, man. You got to worry about this season before you start worrying about next season. So yeah, hats off to the Texans. They did their thing this season.
00:05:50
Speaker
And it was a incredible thing to watch with just how many rookies they had. So, um, with that, we'll lead right into defensive rookie of the year. I'll go first on this one. Uh, I'm going to go Will Anderson. Um, dude, unanimous, man, unanimous. I'm staying in H town also. Like, I don't know how you don't pick him. Like I get that Jalen Carter had a huge impact for the, the Eagles, but dude,
00:06:16
Speaker
I don't know how anyone can argue what the Texans
Coach of the Year Debate
00:06:20
Speaker
did this year, man. I just said it, like they went out and they targeted the two players they wanted in the draft and got them both and they both paid huge dividends. I just, Will Anderson completely changed the defense on that team and CJ Stroud completely changed the offense. Like I don't think it's really even an arguable point, honestly.
00:06:39
Speaker
Assuming they both don't turn into one-year wonders flashing the pans and they live up to, if they come close to the potential that they showed this first year, I think this could honestly go down as maybe the greatest draft in NFL history, man. Is that hyperbole?
00:06:58
Speaker
The problem is, is dude, depending on what happens for the rest of Bryce young's career, the number one pick could be a huge bus. So that's going to cause a little bit of problems in that. No, no, no, no. I mean, the Texans, I mean, the Texans draft. Yeah. I'm talking specifically for the, uh, the, as far as individual team drafts go, man, like, I don't think, I mean, getting absolute, yeah. Getting a cornerstone and offense and defense, man is just insane.
00:07:21
Speaker
Not to mention, dude, they got tank Dell too. That goes very underrated that they got tank Dell as well. I agree with you 100%. Like I said, all these franchises are so worried about the future and what your picks look like next year. Texas proved it, man. Don't worry about next year. Worry about now and let the rest of everything else fall into place. If you get your guys, you get your guys.
00:07:47
Speaker
Yeah, it's a unanimous sweep for me and Seth for offensive and defensive rookie. So we'll go. I agree, man, about what you're saying about the team build on philosophy. And I hate to say it because my
Defensive Player of the Year Discussion
00:08:00
Speaker
current favorite team, the Titans, they definitely seem to be accepting like we're going to do a rebuilding phase. I feel like those days are over, though, man. That's kind of what we came up with in the NFL, like a team would go into rebuilding. And they'd spend two or even three seasons just reloading and getting set up for another run.
00:08:16
Speaker
If I'm an NFL owner, that whole way of thinking is out the window for me, man. It just is. They showed you this year what you can do if you get some motivated coaching in there, bring some innovative schemes, and get a couple of game changers in the building. You can turn it around in one year. You don't have to get a CJ Stroud and a Will Anderson to be able to do this, man. You could make a one-year turnaround or a one-year leap with much less than that. Not to get too off topic on the awards, but
00:08:44
Speaker
I'm kind of over here in the teams are going to go into a rebuilding phase at this point in my, my NFL fandom. Yeah, I agree. What the Texans just did should show everyone that you don't have to wait. Like you, you can do it now. Um, let's go into coach of the year. You go ahead and get us started on coach of the year.
00:09:05
Speaker
Dude, I think D'Amico Ryans has a very strong case, but we're not just going to make this the Houston Texans appreciation show. We're going Dan Campbell, man. That's factoring in the playoff success. I think if it was just the regular season, that's why we kind of said you can put a little sprinkling of playoff dust on these awards. I think regular season, you almost got to go D'Amico Ryans with the one-year turnaround that they had down there. But factoring in the playoffs,
00:09:32
Speaker
Dan Campbell had those boys basically a quarter away,
Who Deserves Offensive Player of the Year?
00:09:36
Speaker
a couple of bounces here or there from going to the Super Bowl. And I just think he deserves to be rewarded, man. The culture that he has set there is those guys are fighting, man. People laughed at him at that opening press conference when he talked about biting kneecaps and fighting and scrapping. But you can tell that team has just got some serious grit to it. They've adopted their head coach's mindset, and it shows with the way they play on both sides of the ball.
00:10:02
Speaker
You know, I've still questioned in a lot of ways, I find myself feeling conflicted hand in this to him because I think he kind of, you know, the last game of the season, at least the second half, he kind of coached his team out of that, man. I feel like if he makes, if he zigs and set his eggs on a couple of those decisions, you know, maybe we're talking about Detroit versus Kansas City in a rematch tonight, but wasn't the case, but all that being said, it's not enough to race away, getting the freaking Detroit Lions damn near to the Super Bowl.
00:10:32
Speaker
This one's tough for me because I think there's three obvious choices. I think Dan Campbell with what he did, like you just said in Detroit. I think Kevin Stefanski deserves a lot of credit for what he did in Cleveland this year with having Joe Flacco as your quarterback. I just
00:10:50
Speaker
I don't know, man. They started, what, four different quarterbacks throughout the season there in Cleveland. And they had so many injuries. Like they lost their best player. Nick Chubb didn't play at all this season. Well, two games. But dude, I'm going to Michael Ryan's, man. I just, if we're going to factor in playoffs a little bit here, like, dude, coming into the postseason, Cleveland was like the third favorite coming out of the AFC. They were hot, man. Cleveland was coming in hot. And Houston blew the fucking doors off Cleveland.
00:11:19
Speaker
And whatever happened in Baltimore happened, like I'm not going to hold that against him. I mean, no matter what, they sold a rookie head coach and a rookie quarterback, like nobody was expecting him to even get that far. So I'm going to Mico Ryan's and I just, uh, complete the trifecta rookie head coach, rookie quarterback and rookie pass rusher. Like I just, I think, uh,
00:11:42
Speaker
their GM should get executive of the year as well. Like dude, just everything
Lamar Jackson's MVP-worthy Season
00:11:47
Speaker
he did last season, he hit on every move they made. It's just pretty incredible. Honestly, man. Yeah. Future is very bright. Like I said, if I, if I hadn't already given the rookie and defensive offensive and defensive rookie of the year to them, I probably would have been much more likely to give it to Tamiko Ryan's, but said he couldn't spend too much time in Houston, man. But yeah, great choice, dude. You really can't argue with Tamiko Ryan's getting it.
00:12:11
Speaker
All right. Well, uh, we'll move to defensive player of the year. Next. Um, I'm going to go TJ watt. I just, I, dude, he's just such a game changer when he's on the field. Like that defense looks completely different when he's not out there. I mean, I know that's not like some like earth shattering content here, but I just, I think TJ watt for what he does for the Steelers. I just,
00:12:35
Speaker
I think there's no replacing him and I don't think there's anyone else like him. He's just a complete freak. I mean, he plays so hard every down. And I mean, dude, he played 15 games and led the NFL in sacks. Like, I don't know what more proof you need.
00:12:51
Speaker
Production wise, he's definitely got it. He outpaces my choice in numbers all the way through, but kind of philosophically, man, I look at this. I judge this award differently from offensive player of the year, which is really kind of based off of, you know, raw production. I look at this as like the defensive MVP. And that's why my choice is Miles Garrett, man. I think, you know, he's.
00:13:13
Speaker
He just set the tone, man, for that team. And the Steelers are a lot the same way, man. Their defense willed them to an unlikely playoff berth. But I feel like Miles Garrett was just such a force on Cleveland. I feel like Cleveland would have been in a lot worse shape. If Miles Garrett would have got hurt, I think that would have been the straw that broke the camel's back as opposed to the Steelers. That's why I'm going to Miles Garrett over TJ Watt, man. I'm going vibes over stats on this one.
00:13:39
Speaker
Yeah, I don't think there's any arguing that honestly, dude, if, if I was going with my second choice, I would have went max Crosby out of LA or Vegas. I just think like the havoc max Crosby reeks on defense. Like, dude, you know where that guy's out on the field at all time. Like he's just a mad man. He just,
00:13:58
Speaker
He's a factor in the run game also. He's not strictly a pass rusher, man. Like he's a big, big factor. You know, a big run stopper also just plays with his hair on fire, man. Like everybody always uses that term. And it's like that dude literally plays with his hair on fire. Like he just, he's just running all over the field like a madman every play. So I think we had to at least bring him up. Um, offensive player of the year.
00:14:20
Speaker
I'm going Tyreek Hill by just a cunt hair over Christian McCaffrey, man. I just don't think there's anything else like Tyreek. I know Jalen Waldo makes a lot of big plays for them also, but I still feel like it's a pretty big drop off from Tyreek Hill to Jalen Waldo being the number one receiver in that Miami offense.
00:14:39
Speaker
And I mean, yeah, Christian McCaffrey, he's right up there with him, dude. He's super special player, but I feel like the backup running backs for the Niners could probably still be pretty damn productive with that offense, man. So that's why I give the nod to Tyreek Hill.
00:14:54
Speaker
See, I'm going to go McCaffrey for the reasons you said. I just think that McCaffrey means so much to that team. Like I get what you're saying. Like their running backs would do fine, but I just don't think they would do the production that he does. And you just said, you think that there's a huge gap between Tyreke and Jalen Waddle. I think there's a huge gap between McCaffrey and the next best running back. Honestly, I just think McCaffrey is that much better as a running back than, um, even the second best guy. So.
00:15:23
Speaker
based off that alone, I'm going to go McCaffrey. I just, I think he just changes the game and like you have to account for him every single play. Yeah. I mean, we're, we're, we're going, you know, it's splitting hairs really between these, these are definitely the two best offensive weapons in football right now. So really can't argue with either, either choice, man.
00:15:43
Speaker
Yeah. Um, some McCaffrey actually finished third in the, uh, the real, the real life MVP voting. That's insane dude for a running back. That's absolutely insane. Um, okay. We'll move into MVP. Um, the playoffs didn't change my opinion. I just.
00:15:59
Speaker
I'll say this though like I thought a lot more about like how valuable each player is to their team after the playoffs this year. But I'm still going Lamar dude just he carried that team this season man and I think the biggest evidence for me of that too is that
00:16:19
Speaker
I said it last week, I don't know what the hell the Ravens offensive coordinator was thinking, uh, making Lamar throw the ball that much. I just, I think that was foolish and they took themselves out of their game. Like Lamar was looking at the stats. That was the least amount of handoffs to a running back in Baltimore Ravens history. Since they moved to Baltimore from Cleveland and became the Baltimore Ravens, they've never had a game where they handed it off to the running back that few times.
00:16:47
Speaker
It's not a slight against Lamar to say he shouldn't be throwing the ball 40 times. Like it's just the way their offense is built. He should never be throwing the ball 40 times. Like it's just a bad game plan in general, man. You let the chiefs, you know, pulled the ball damn near the whole freaking game. Just really start bleeding the clock on you the whole second half. Um, yeah, I, I don't know what they were doing, man. I mean, it was,
00:17:10
Speaker
Just a weird, weird game. A weird second half, at least for Baltimore. I'm going with Lamar Jackson also, man. You have no idea how bad I want to give to Brock Purdy after that NFC championship. Brock Purdy ended up finishing fourth. In real life voting, it was Lamar first. Dak Prescott was number two, which to me, Dak's a stats guy, dude. He piles up stats. That's it. Third was McCaffrey, fourth was Brock, and fifth was Josh Allen.
00:17:37
Speaker
How insane is that dude you went through five guys in Patrick Mahomes isn't one of them He was just I feel like my home just spoiled us man. He was so I mean, you know, everybody talks about Brock perdy being a game manager I feel like Patrick Mahomes was the true game manager this year to like his numbers were so pedestrian and
00:17:55
Speaker
Compared to what he's done over the course of his career I think you can make a case from being MVP because I don't know if I don't know Kansas City wins five games if they don't got Patrick my homes as good as that defense was this year That offense was absolutely horrid man, and he was just you know He was really almost single-handedly keeping it afloat. Yeah, I agree. It's just
00:18:14
Speaker
It's really tough. But yeah, for going back to my man, Lamar, yeah, I just felt like he operated at such a high level pretty much throughout the season, really peaked that last month. I do find it pretty funny that, you know, him and Brock Purdy were kind of neck and neck. And then, you know, Brock had that disastrous outing Christmas night. Everybody hands it to Lamar. Come AFC Championship time, dude. Lamar is folding like a lawn chair in the second half of his game, whereas Brock Purdy is leading his team back for 17 points down.
00:18:42
Speaker
to, uh, to win. So it's just, you know, we always say, man, football's a funny game. That being said from wire to wire, I don't really, I don't think you can argue that Lamar Jackson was the most outstanding player in football this season. Yeah. Didn't he get 49 of the 50 first place votes and Josh Allen got the other first place vote.
00:18:59
Speaker
Yeah, just sound good. And I appreciate it. I forget the, uh, I forget the guy's name and that voted for Josh Allen, but he broke it down. Like basically all the advanced metrics and analytics and stuff all point towards, uh, how well Josh Allen played this year. But I don't know to me, man, just, he had too many turnovers. There were, there were games that Josh Allen, you know, you could, you could make the case that he lost for the bills.
00:19:20
Speaker
even though they ended up having a really impressive season, they could have, you know, if maybe if they don't have to go into their playoffs started basically at the end of November, right? If they're, if they didn't have to, you know, go on a freaking six game winning streak, uh, just to, just to secure their, their playoff livelihood, maybe they're hitting the playoffs a little bit more fresh and got a little bit more juice to where it's not a one score game in the fourth quarter at home against the chiefs.
00:19:45
Speaker
Yeah, I agree. Josh Allen was incredible this year. Like he was a turnover machine in half the games, but he's awesome though, dude. He's just a fucking V12 engine for your offense. Just always going all the time.
00:19:58
Speaker
Yeah, he's one that like, you know, Kurt Warner, who's I don't, I think is a little bit underrated historically, man. People don't remember how great he was, dude. He turned it over a lot too. You know, Kurt Warner, if you look, Kurt Warner always had a healthy amount of interceptions on his stat sheet, dude. I think that's just, there's some quarterbacks that are like that, man. You just got to know they're going to, they're going full throttle. They're going to press. And every once in a while you got one that really just breaks your back and you wish you could have back. But I think, you know, for guys like, you know, Warner, Brett Favre, Josh Allen,
00:20:27
Speaker
You just got to know the good is going to far outweigh the bad. And you just live and die with those guys. Yeah, 100% agree. All right. Is that it for our year end awards? That's it, man. All right. Let's make some Super Bowl predictions.
00:20:54
Speaker
All right, it's gonna be the shortest pick segment of the season I'll go first
Super Bowl Predictions
00:21:02
Speaker
man. I hate to say it. It just feels inevitable man the Between the path they've gotten here peaking at the right time the Taylor Swift of it all I think the Chiefs win by like I'm thinking it looks very similar to that Baltimore game I'm thinking something like 21 13 Chiefs win
00:21:22
Speaker
This is really a no-win situation for me. Are these like number two and three for your most hated teams after the Saints? I don't know if I'd go that far. I don't think I hate the 49ers near as much as the Saints and the Chiefs, but this is not a winning formula for me either way.
00:21:47
Speaker
Before the playoffs started, I picked 49ers versus Ravens for the Super Bowl. I thought those were the two most talented teams. I still think the 49ers have the most talent.
00:21:59
Speaker
having said that, dude, it's like, it's really tough for me because this is me picking Brock Purdy over my homes. And I just, I don't feel great about it, but I, I don't know, man. I just feel like I trust the rest of the team from the 40 and hours more than I trust the chiefs. I don't think it's out of question in the Niners win, man.
00:22:19
Speaker
dude, I'm going to go 40 Niners. I just, I just, I think the 40 Niners have more talent as far as skill position players go on both sides of the ball. Um, but I'm not going to go soft. The chiefs are a little soft on the run, which makes it that much more frustrating. Why the Ravens then pound it more, man. So if they can really get Christian McCaffrey after it, dude, like I know this is going to sound weird because I just picked the chiefs to win, but I could also see a game script where
00:22:46
Speaker
the Niners just blow their doors off of them, man, because they are, you know, kind of pound for pound better across the board. I think they're a lot. They're much more explosive. And maybe we see something that looks kind of similar to that that Falcons and Patriots Super Bowl, except, you know, there's no letting off the gas, right? They don't they don't allow a 25 point comeback, man. And we see them just beat the shit out of them. I mean, the Eagles damn near slit the teeth's throat first half last year, man. If it wasn't for that Jalen Hurts fumble, that game would have been dramatically different. Yeah.
00:23:16
Speaker
But this is not me like sliding the chiefs either. I don't want anyone to take this as I don't think the teams are great. Yeah. Chiefs are a great football team. Like I just like, dude, when it comes down to crunch time, like am I really supposed to trust Marquez Valdez Scanlan and those guys like over Brandon, I, you Deebo, all those guys. Like I just, I don't trust the chiefs playmakers outside of Rashid Rice and Travis Kelsey. And
00:23:45
Speaker
dude at some point one of these teams is going to realize like if those two guys ain't beating you who is beating you on this team like i feel like the playoffs was like all the teams that chiefs played they were like oh well let's just let travis kelsey and rishi rice get theirs and then we'll uh we'll figure it out from there it's like dude double those two guys and make everyone else beat you i just
00:24:06
Speaker
I don't get it, man. It's just so weird to me. They have two guys that, you know, that Mahomes trust, like, dude, shut the water off of Travis Kelsey and make Mahomes choose someone else to beat you. Like, I just, I don't know, man, I get it, dude. NFL is a fast game. And like, we're, we're coaching this from our, our chairs and our podcasting rooms. Like I get it. I'm not saying this is an easy game, but
00:24:29
Speaker
I'm just saying, dude, like, if there's anybody in the Chiefs that scares me, it's Travis Kelsey. And that would be the first thing I'm doing is making sure he does not beat me.
00:24:40
Speaker
I mean, dude, I feel like Pacheco doesn't get the credit he deserves, man. I mean, if I'm the Chiefs, I'm feeding Pacheco the rock a lot, too. Look at the Packers, dude, and the Lions, man. Both teams really were running all over the 49ers, at least in the first half of those games, and the Niners kind of tightened up over the... in the second half, both of them, but I don't know, man. It's gonna be a really interesting game, because, yeah, the Niners...
00:25:01
Speaker
You know, the Niners got a little bit of a battle testing this to him. I mean, they've been down in the fourth quarter. Excuse me. I don't think they're actually down the fourth quarter against Detroit, but they've been down big second half, both playoff games so far and come out on the other side of it, man. Brock was making huge. I mean, Brock looked like Lamar Jackson to his second half against the line. Some of those runs he was making and everything and the throws on the run.
00:25:22
Speaker
Like we said, can't say enough things about Christian McCaffrey being one of the absolute best players in the league. And dude, Brandon Ayuk is freaking awesome. Also, man, he's one of the, he's quietly passed Devo is like the best receiver on that team. I know Devo is more just like an all around playmaker.
00:25:36
Speaker
But yeah, dude, I don't know. It's going to be an awesome game, man. Really, really awesome game. I feel like one thing to factor in, I can't really make up my mind who this benefits.
Pressure: Chiefs vs. 49ers
00:25:45
Speaker
Think about the disparity and pressure on this game. I feel like there's almost no pressure whatsoever on the Chiefs, man. The Chiefs are already, you know, a proven commodity. They're made men. This is their fourth Super Bowl in six years. I mean, really all they're playing for, like, yeah, it'll be cool to go back to back. And, you know, my homes will, you know, be inching closer to
00:26:03
Speaker
to Brady on like, you know, the all-time quarterback argument, he's still gonna have a ways to go, but it's another notch in his belt on that pursuit. I feel like the Niners, you know, they've been in the NFC championship three straight years now, lost the Superbowl, um, four years ago. Kyle Shanahan's also got the ghost from that Falcons Patriots Superbowl we talked about. I feel like the pressure is much higher on the 49ers than it is on the Chiefs. I would agree. 100%. I feel like Shanahan needs this one.
00:26:30
Speaker
Also, dude, starting next season, they're going to start having salary cap issues, so they got to get it done now.
00:26:38
Speaker
Yeah. And like he said, man, you know, Shanahan, I think he's forever going to be labeled as like, you know, kind of what Andy Reed was the first to have his career, right? Like great coach can't win the big one. Um, I think that's going to be stuck with him if they don't win this where I said, you know, if the chiefs lose, I don't think anybody's going to really hold it against them, man. Like it's almost, it's kind of amazing that the chiefs are even here after how they looked at some points this season.
00:27:01
Speaker
Like I said, big gap in pressure. I don't know if that makes the Niners play with that much more fire and desperation in a good way, or if they're playing and they're going to be playing more tight where the Chiefs are just out there ball and, you know, playing loose. So that one could have an effect on the game. I'll definitely keep an eye on it. And it should be pretty apparent in the first quarter, just seeing how the demeanor of the two teams, you kind of saw that in that AFC championship game seem like the Chiefs were at ease and then total control, even when the game was kind of close down the stretch.
00:27:26
Speaker
it seemed like the Ravens just composure wise seem like they were just hanging on by a thread like they were ready to just out and out collapse out there kind of emotionally. Yeah, it. So you're right, the 49ers have been down twice like you said in the first two games down big.
00:27:46
Speaker
dude, I just do not, if they fall down against the chiefs, I just, like you just were saying, I don't feel good about that at all for them against this team. Like chiefs are different, man. Andy reads a different head coach than anybody else. They're going to be smart enough to, they're not going to get cute at all.
00:28:02
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they're going to be there. They're going to freaking pound Pacheco and let my homes make smart plays on third down, man. Like they're if you're going to come back on the Chiefs, it's not going to be because of some goofy fourth downs, drop pass and stuff like that. It's you're going to have to freaking earn it, man. If you end up going down, you know, 10 points to the Chiefs in the second half. Let me ask you this just because I feel like we need some more talking points about the Super Bowl. Let's just say the Chiefs do win. Do you think Andy Reid and Travis Kelce retire after the game?
00:28:34
Speaker
I don't think so, man. I think they come back, dude. I think they keep this thing going, man. Maybe I would lean more towards Travis Kelsey retiring. Excuse me. Bless me. I would lean more towards Travis Kelsey just because obviously he's got a ton of other stuff going on. I feel like I would be
00:28:54
Speaker
I feel like Andy Reed's chances of retiring go up more if they lose this man. I feel like if they lose, it's easy for him to kind of just close the chapter. You know, maybe on his coaching career, maybe just on this, you know, on on this portion of his career, dude, I think
00:29:10
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I think if they lose, I'd be much more, I'd be looking for Andy Reid retirement, you know, much more likely. But I don't know, he seems to me like he's still got a lot of gas in the tank. Seems to still be enjoying himself. So I don't know. I don't think so. If I had to put, I'd say neither one of these guys retire.
00:29:25
Speaker
I agree with you. I think it's way more likely Travis Kelsey retires. Honestly, I just think with everything he's got going on in his life and his brother retiring. I just, I don't know, man. He's probably got his brother telling him like, you know, I got the weight of the world off my shoulders now. Right. And like they got enough money and
00:29:42
Speaker
financial freedom. They can go do what they want to do. If they just want to do their podcast, like they'll be totally fine. I'm sure they could end up on, you know, the two of them could come along together and do something similar to the Manning cast somewhere or go together and be on any NFL pregame show they want next season.
00:29:57
Speaker
Yeah, I just think he's got a lot of enticing offers. Whereas I don't really see Andy Reid doing the broadcasting. He's never really struck me as that type. He just seems like a freaking coaching lifer. So I feel like he's going to keep going until the Chiefs really do take a step back. And they're Super Bowl windows closed, which might not be a thing as long as Patrick Mahomes is there. There is one thing about maybe Travis Kelsey not retiring. I feel like his brother is the draw as far as like
00:30:24
Speaker
Mainstream media is concerned. I know
Travis Kelsey's Potential Retirement
00:30:26
Speaker
Travis dates the most popular person in the world, but dude Jason Kelsey is like your everyday man that also played in the NFL like just every time you hear him talk or anytime you see him do anything like Travis Jason Kelsey is the type of guy like you want to go have beers on a Friday night with super charismatic man like he's a dad like he's just he's like a normal fucking dude like he's he's like us except he has about
00:30:54
Speaker
$200 million more in the bank than we do. But outside of that, he's just one of the best. Yeah. And being one of the best centers in the history of football. Well, yeah, I know. But you're one of the best people in the Navy and I'm one of the best insurance agents. I mean, I don't know. I don't really think he's got that over us. It's just the money. Fair enough. We just chose different professions. We're just the best at our own professions. Does it make the most sense money wise? No, but we're doing it.
00:31:23
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Do you have anything else to talk about as far as the Super Bowl? No, I will see, man. I kind of wish I would have picked the Niners now, dude, just because I feel like I've been kicking your ass on the picks all season long. And it'd be, I really, I really want the Niners to win, man. I'm personally rooting hard for the Niners. You know, I love Brock Purdy. I just think he's like the most wholesome dude in the NFL. And I've always been a fan of Kyle Shanahan. So I'm rooting hard for the Niners. Who's, who's your personal reading interest or do you not have one? Are you totally just neutral on this game?
00:31:50
Speaker
Um, I wouldn't say I'm completely neutral because I definitely don't want the chiefs to win. Um, I don't know, man. I like kiddo a lot, dude. Kittle's just, he's just a, he's a wrestling fan. He's just a dude. And I would like, dude, McCaffrey is as good as he's been. I mean, he's been either the best or one of the best running backs in the league since he came into the league. Like that dude deserves a ring man. And
00:32:15
Speaker
Yeah, it's just, it's going to be interesting, man. I think this can be a really good game. I think, um, the styles are really going to contrast each other. I just, I feel like this is going to be a fantastic game. Yeah, it's going to be a good one. How crazy will it be? Uh, you know, if they, if the Niners end up winning that freaking, uh, you know, Kyle Shanahan's dad coached, uh, Christian McCaffrey's dad to a Super Bowl victory with the Broncos. And now they're making it happen all over again. Like, you know, life is crazy.
00:32:42
Speaker
It is, man. It's a fragile thing. Life is a fragile thing, man. All right, let's get into our bets. All right, it's time for million dollar bets. How did we do in the conference championship?
00:33:08
Speaker
Oh, boy. I had quite the week. I went 0 for 3 minus 700K. So yeah, not a good showing from your boy. Not a good showing at all. What's your total heading into the Super Bowl? I am 20 and 23, and I am minus 425K. So yeah, that one hurt.
00:33:32
Speaker
All right, how about me? So in the championship round, you hit Chiefs and Niners Parley that paid out 330K. That just completely destroyed anything I had. You have Lamar for the first touchdown, which obviously didn't hit and Kittle for a touchdown, which it didn't hit. Brings you to 25 and 18 plus 805K. So healthy lead.
00:33:58
Speaker
I'll say this, I'll throw out my bets first, man, because I got a bunch of crazy fits, crazy bets. I am not setting on my lead whatsoever, man. I'm going balls out. I'm going to leave the window. I don't know what Jordan's got cooked up, but I'm leaving the window open for him to make a last second comeback because I got some serious cheddar going down on some pretty wild shit, dude. So first off, I am putting the color of Gatorade to be poured on the winning coach to be red. Okay.
00:34:26
Speaker
Hold on a second here, I got everything pulled up. It's just my phone's not loading at the current second. I don't know why. I had always saved and now it doesn't want to pull up. It's all good. I'll keep running through the rest of them. Red Gatorade, what's that payout? Red Gatorade, you had $100,000 on that. That would pay $450,000 if it hit.
00:34:50
Speaker
All right. Reba McIntyre, country music legend. I actually saw her at halftime of a Dallas Cowboys and Tennessee Oilers football game on Thanksgiving in 1997. I'm betting the under on the national anthem. I think this is going to be classic, classy, no frills. I think we're hitting the under on the anthem this year. So 100K on that. So I saw that the under was 90 and a half seconds. Does that sound right to you?
00:35:15
Speaker
Yep. And it's minus 128. So the payout on 100,000 on that would be 172,000. Okay. All right. First touchdown. I'm going Travis Kelsey. I think the Swifties are going to collectively pray and just will this to happen, dude. I think he's getting the touchdown and then throwing up the heart to Taylor. 100K on Travis Kelsey. First touchdown. That would pay 850,000. And then I'm taking the Chiefs against the spread.
00:35:42
Speaker
That would pay $373,913. That was $200K on that one. $200K on Chiefs Against the Spread. And then, can I throw in one last bonus bet, man, if it's not too much trouble? You can get the odds while we're doing listener mail. It's not heads and tails on the coin anymore, huh? Yeah, it is. It's heads and tails.
00:36:01
Speaker
Okay, I'll take tails for the coin. I thought they switched it up a while back and did like the team logo on each side or something. No, because I bet tails as well. Okay, I've taken tails. Tails never fails. 100k on that. And then I'm going to hedge. You know, I went Chiefs heavy on those bets, man, with the red Gatorade, Travis Kelsey getting the first touchdown. She used to get to spread. I'm going to hedge a little bit on this. Brock Purdy, I want to put 250k down on him being the MVP. Okay, that would pay $837,500.
00:36:28
Speaker
All right. So that's me. What do you got windup dude? Let's hear it. All right. So I got 49ers minus two and George Kittle and a parlay to score a touchdown for 200,000, which would pay 796,000. All right. He's going big. Um, I have tails for a hundred thousand, so that would pay 200 K.
00:36:46
Speaker
I have yellow Gatorade for $100,000, which would pay $400,000. I have yellow or green, so you get both colors with this because they're so close in colors for Gatorade. $100,000 gives you $400,000. I'm hedging it a little bit as well. I have Travis Kelsey's MVP at $50,000 for $650,000.
00:37:06
Speaker
And then I have, I got some more here. I got Brandon, I uke over 59 and a half receiving yards for a hundred K, which would pay 186,956 smart. He might get that on one play. I have Isaiah Pacheco over 67 and a half rushing yards for a hundred K, which would pay $183,333. And then I have Chris Jones over 0.25 sacks for 200 K, which would pay 440,000.
00:37:37
Speaker
All right, man, it's going to be an interesting one. I think, you know, without doing the math in my head, it sounds like if I bomb on mine and you hit on yours, you could definitely come back. So still a lot in the air for the Million Dollar Bets Championship. Yeah.
00:37:51
Speaker
All right, let's get to some listener mail. All right, first off we have Jordan's lovely wife Ari hit us with a couple questions. She says, what's a Super Bowl party food must have? I think you gotta have wings, man. If I show up to a Super Bowl party and there's no wings, I'm immediately feeling very suspect if I've made the right decision with how I'm spending my evening.
00:38:12
Speaker
Yeah, I think wings are a must at every Super Bowl party. Just, dude, wings are, we talked about this a couple of weeks ago, wings and pizza, man. It's the ultimate Super Bowl food. You got to have one or the other at least.
00:38:24
Speaker
in with your hands you don't need silverware like you they're easy to you know grab a slice grab a couple wings go back for seconds dude like yeah and they keep man like if you want to set your plate down you can just toss it in the microwave for 12 seconds and it's good to go dude it's like you know I don't need no fancy barbecue or nothing like that for my Super Bowl party straight up give me give me wings give me pizza give me beer and I'm happy
00:38:43
Speaker
a little follow up on what Seth just said. So I'm telling you right now that if I go to a Super Bowl party and I hear a man ask for a fork or something like that when he's eating wings, like I just assume I need to recite the step brothers line to you where he's like, we're men and that means something. We like to shit with the door open. We like to go on riverboat gambling trips. We like to talk about pussy.
00:39:07
Speaker
Yeah, don't eat wings with it with a 40. That's just no, it's not a thing. All right. Ari also says, what's been your favorite halftime performance ever? I think I go with Prince, man, that Colts and Barris Super Bowl. I thought that one was pretty good, man. I think we got to take the one where we saw Janet Jackson's titty off the board, because that's clearly the best ever. So not counting that one, I'll go Prince.
00:39:29
Speaker
I'm not going to lie, dude, I really liked the one in L.A. a couple of years ago with Dre, Eminem, Snoop and everybody. I thought that was pretty awesome, just because that was like a nostalgia Super Bowl for me. The Prince one is pretty hard to beat, though, man, especially considering it was raining during halftime while he's doing purple rain. I thought that just added to it, man. Dude, that game was horrible, but yeah, the halftime saved it a little bit.
00:39:55
Speaker
Yeah, that game peaked with Devin Hester running the opening kickoff back for a touchdown. And then after that, it was just Peyton Manning punching the bears in the mouth for four quarters. Yep.
00:40:05
Speaker
All right, Zach Hertzer says, do you watch the Super Bowl for the actual game or for the commercials? I don't know if it's just me getting older, man. I feel like the commercials have kind of tailed off over the last 10 years or so. As a kid, it was probably 50-50, dude. You lived for those commercial breaks, especially the first three or four commercial breaks of the Super Bowl. You're just waiting with bated breath, man, for those. And I definitely do not have that feeling as an adult. I don't know if that's just a me thing or I get an older thing or what. But I used to love the commercials now. I barely really think of them.
00:40:35
Speaker
No, it's not just you think it's an everybody thing. The problem is, dude, there's five companies that buy all the ad space and you're just that's what you're watching the entire game. So definitely the game for me. And any drinking games for the Super Bowl. I've never really done the drinking thing. You know, to be honest, I haven't gone to a ton of Super Bowl parties as an adult. My Super Bowl party peak was in high school, man, like my parents always hosted it starting my sophomore year of football.
00:41:02
Speaker
And then it ran through my brothers till my brother graduated. So my brother was two years behind me. So we had like a five, five year streak of hosting some real throw downs for the Super Bowl at my house, man. Like my dad would, would fry just a shitload of wings for us too. We would get a ton of pizza.
00:41:19
Speaker
you know, from town, all the pop you could drink, dude. Like, you know, our garage fridge is just filled with Kroger brand sodas of every flavor. And it'd just be the whole, you know, basically the whole high school football team come over to our house for it. It was always a really, really good time and a fond memory. As an adult, I really haven't done a lot of Super Bowl parties, man. I don't know. It's just never, I kind of like watching football by myself for the most part.
00:41:41
Speaker
We usually go to someone's house every year unless the Falcons are playing. And, uh, I'd just like to remind you, we did have a Super Bowl party for your adult life for the Falcons. That was like a Super Bowl funeral, dude. No, it was a party, dude. I'm pretty sure I lifted you like 18 feet off the ground in the third quarter of that game. So yeah, that was, that was a party. Let's not joke. Yeah, it went bad really fast, but it was still a party while it lasted.
00:42:07
Speaker
All right. No, no, no drinking games. I'm not drinking every time they say or show Taylor Swift. Absolutely fucking not. I might die.
00:42:17
Speaker
Two more questions. Rob, Virginia. Yeah, we, you know, we kind of talked about this. He laid out the case for miles Garrett and TJ watten basically said, you know, make sense of miles Garrett when a defensive player of the year, looking at the way he's got, he's got all the stats laid out here. Forest man tackles, QB hits, everything sacks, looking at the numbers. There's really no way to justify it, man. Like I said, I know I was kind of going against the grain with that pick and saying, I'm kind of, you know, leaning on the vibes over the numbers.
00:42:42
Speaker
But overall, I think the Browns overall defense was a little bit better than the Steelers. And, you know, miles Garrett was the centerpiece of that. So that's why he got my nod. You got anything to add to the miles Garrett TJ watt discussion? No, I mean, both are deserving players. Like we're not going to rip on one or the other. I'm sorry. They're both deserving. Yeah. And last question. Our good buddy, Brian Baker from all the way down in North Carolina. I'm on it. Raise up. Take your shirt off.
00:43:11
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Best ice cream flavor ever. Oh, cookies and cream.
00:43:17
Speaker
You know, I was thinking something basic like that, too. I took a sneak peek at this one earlier. The basis of my argument is really that vanilla is criminally underrated as an ice cream flavor. Right. Like I feel like it gets thrown under the bus just because like it's become like a catch off or something that's just plain. But dude, vanilla is so common and it's so like, you know, known for that because it's so good. It's so easy. It's the base for stuff like cookies and cream. And my pick, which is chocolate chip cookie dough, man.
00:43:43
Speaker
I think if you want to combine, bro, I'm not opposed to doing a little cookie dough and cream. I've seen that at a few boutique ice cream places where you got the cookies and cream with the Oreo bits, but you also have cookie dough in there as well.
00:43:59
Speaker
They had that at, I can't remember the name of it, man. I'll get Sheena to remind me, and I'll drop it the next episode we record. There was an awesome place in Virginia Beach that had a flavor of ice cream called Cookie Monster, and it was really, really good vanilla ice cream, but it was dyed blue, and then it had the Oreo bits and the chocolate chip cookie dough in there, and that was just primo.
00:44:20
Speaker
Dude, um, they don't have it on their menu anymore, but you can still get it. But Dairy Queen used to have the cookie jar for one of the blizzards and it was Oreos fudge and, um, cookie dough bites. And it was absolutely delicious. Like they also don't have it anymore, but you can still get it. You just have to peace it out yourself and pay the extra $18 or whatever it is that extra toppings into a blizzard now. But yeah, that that's like my favorite blizzard dude. So I mean, we literally just hit on my two favorite ice creams.
00:44:49
Speaker
All right, that's it for listener mail. Appreciate you guys support all season. We'll be back next week with a Super Bowl wrap up. And then we'll get into the off season, the first off season for the goal line podcast. But I want to thank all the listeners again for all the positive feedback, all the support all throughout the year. I'm humbled every single week when we take a look at those.
00:45:09
Speaker
those download numbers on this show, man. The fact that with all the options out there, people are choosing us to put in their ear holes, man. It's pretty awesome. Jordan, I'll leave you with the closing thoughts for this Super Bowl preview. Yeah, it's just kind of echo what Seth said. It's kind of humbling that you guys all listen to us. I mean, it really is like, dude, we had no idea what this was going to be when we started it. And
00:45:31
Speaker
Um, it's incredible that everybody likes it. And like I said, dude, I've never had a bad feedback on the show. And I mean, maybe you guys are just hiding out there and not wanting to tell us that you actually hate the fucking show. And you think me and Seth are annoying, which go ahead and give us the feedback. It's all right, man. We can take it. Um, but as far as closing thoughts, uh, try not to get over Swift elated this weekend.
00:46:36
Speaker
Let's go!