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Introduction and Favorite Films Discussion

00:00:01
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to an all new episode of Galani Chill. This is episode number 35 I just found out today. And of course, I am your host, Chris Galanti. I'm joined here with John Pizwaras, Steven O'Teary, and Devin Coppett.
00:00:18
Devon Kopete
How's it going?
00:00:18
fart souls
Boo boo boo.
00:00:19
slimeballsteve
Hello, hello.
00:00:21
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Everybody's been on it.
00:00:24
Devon Kopete
Good, good, good.
00:00:25
slimeballsteve
Doing good, doing good.
00:00:26
YOUNGSHELDONRING
That is, um, this week.
00:00:27
Devon Kopete
yeah
00:00:30
YOUNGSHELDONRING
been seeing a lot of fun stuff and I think I saw something that finally made me think twice about Dune Part 2 being my favorite movie of the year. so
00:00:40
Devon Kopete
oh
00:00:40
slimeballsteve
Oh, we got a 2024 movie of the year contender, you're saying?
00:00:43
Devon Kopete
I think I think I know what that movie is He's
00:00:44
fart souls
Chris.
00:00:44
YOUNGSHELDONRING
like
00:00:46
fart souls
Chris Brazil. Chris Brazil came out in the 1980s. It doesn't count as your favorite movie of the year.
00:00:50
YOUNGSHELDONRING
ah
00:00:51
slimeballsteve
Brazil!
00:00:52
fart souls
OK.
00:00:53
Devon Kopete
talking about that that Beetlejuice 2 trailer it's what he's talking about
00:00:55
YOUNGSHELDONRING
I'm talking about Twisters, of course. No, I'm not talking about any of those movies. The movie I bring up that affected me so profoundly was a little film by the name of Long Legs that we managed
00:01:10
fart souls
Mm hmm.

Exploring 'Long Legs' and Suspense Techniques

00:01:11
YOUNGSHELDONRING
to see last week.
00:01:14
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Unfortunately, Steve could not make it, so we're going to keep the spoilers to a minimum. Oh, come on. but
00:01:22
YOUNGSHELDONRING
You didn't even say it, Steve. All right. I want to say, though, that was an incredible experience. I felt constantly stressed watching the movie. I don't know about you, John and and and Devin.
00:01:36
fart souls
I mean, I think you could tell I was pretty stressed out.
00:01:39
Devon Kopete
Okay. Okay. I felt pretty cool watching that.
00:01:39
fart souls
Watch that movie.
00:01:40
Devon Kopete
I felt pretty cool watching it.
00:01:41
YOUNGSHELDONRING
With the lights turning on and the people running around and doors slamming in the movie theater over and over again.
00:01:42
Devon Kopete
I was... and Yeah, and some guy going, I had done it! It wasn't me!
00:01:51
slimeballsteve
Yeah, your movie experience sounded very like outside the movie as well.
00:01:51
Devon Kopete
Which was...
00:01:54
YOUNGSHELDONRING
It was
00:01:55
Devon Kopete
Like, it's it's weird because, like, if this was, like...
00:01:56
YOUNGSHELDONRING
It was It wasn't.
00:01:59
fart souls
It was an Epcot ride.
00:02:00
Devon Kopete
I don't know. Yeah, if this was like a Marvel movie. Like, I think it all would have been really annoying. But like, for some reason, this really fit the vibe. It felt very 4D.
00:02:10
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Totally did. Um, I think this movie is unsettling enough on its own, but to have all these weird things happening while you're watching it really added to the the spookiness of it, man. It's a spooky movie.
00:02:22
Devon Kopete
Spooky movie, dude. Yeah, I. ah
00:02:25
YOUNGSHELDONRING
I was spooked, man. I got real scared. This man, he scared me.
00:02:29
fart souls
Yeah, I was scared I was not I'm not I'm not even like I'm not even lying.
00:02:30
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Yeah,
00:02:32
fart souls
I was like scared driving home.
00:02:33
YOUNGSHELDONRING
this is a rough one.
00:02:34
fart souls
I was kind of I was kind of freaking out.
00:02:35
Devon Kopete
you
00:02:35
fart souls
I was like, yo, if my if my car breaks down on the right, arm I'm just going to fucking take this gun that I don't own and shoot myself because I don't want ah I don't want to run into long legs.
00:02:39
Devon Kopete
You. Yeah. yeah
00:02:47
fart souls
OK.
00:02:48
Devon Kopete
It's kind of pops up, too, you know.
00:02:51
YOUNGSHELDONRING
um I feel like this movie hits on a lot of different areas too. It's like it hits in the vibes, it hits in the acting. Directing looks great. It's a wonderful looking movie. I actually think it wouldn't be, I don't think it would be half as good if it wasn't by this director. I think he really added a lot to the movie. I know he wrote the screenplay, but still I feel like the direction shines in this. Yeah, and I've never seen any of his other movies too. So I'm kind of, kind of went in blind and maybe even more enjoyable, you know, no expectations.
00:03:30
Devon Kopete
Yeah. And I think I've been kind of going back and forth with this in my head because I was like, what if this had like a traditional movie kind of like a marketing, right?
00:03:35
fart souls
Good.
00:03:43
Devon Kopete
Like a normal trailer, like a normal spooky trailer, as opposed to the kind of like the pseudo gorilla marketing that this had. and Because I was like, how did this, how did this director or whoever made this decision, like convince whoever they need to convince like, no, I want to do like a weird marketing thing. I want to just show like seven second clips of like my movie and that those are going to be the trailers because that's what got us all kind of like invested a little bit.
00:04:08
slimeballsteve
ah
00:04:08
YOUNGSHELDONRING
I think they're doing so much cocaine over at neon. I don't think they really knew what was going on.
00:04:16
Devon Kopete
Yeah.
00:04:17
YOUNGSHELDONRING
me
00:04:17
Devon Kopete
i guess I guess like I just, I was, I find that stuff fascinating because like I do think the marketing for this movie was like,
00:04:18
YOUNGSHELDONRING
they
00:04:26
Devon Kopete
We got we were primed for the mark or like from the marketing. We're like, oh, this is something special.
00:04:29
slimeballsteve
yeah It's weird.
00:04:29
YOUNGSHELDONRING
like
00:04:31
Devon Kopete
This isn't just like, you know, and no disrespect to like a quiet plays day one or something like that. Like this felt like super special. Like, oh, no, this is a real scary movie.
00:04:41
YOUNGSHELDONRING
disrespect to a get disrespet
00:04:44
Devon Kopete
Well, you know what I mean? Like, it's just like this didn't feel like a normal horror film.
00:04:45
slimeballsteve
Horror her has room horror has has room to kind of do that with its like trailers. like they are very like A lot of the the horror movies that like we find like being like special experiences are ones that do that.
00:04:52
Devon Kopete
Okay.
00:04:59
slimeballsteve
Blair Witch did that. I'm trying to think of some more. um
00:05:03
YOUNGSHELDONRING
You know, Steve, I think it has to do with how how like evocative the actual movie is. Like if it's shot in a very interesting way and it builds suspense and and tenseness through just visuals. Yeah, man. Any trail you cut from that, I feel like is going to be good.
00:05:21
fart souls
Yeah, yeah, I feel like this movie is shot very specific and unique, like.
00:05:22
YOUNGSHELDONRING
ah
00:05:24
Devon Kopete
Yeah This is a
00:05:30
fart souls
Like these are very there, there's a lot of like wide angle shots with a clear focus point that you have to look at, right?
00:05:30
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Yeah.
00:05:36
slimeballsteve
Hmm.
00:05:38
YOUNGSHELDONRING
And, and like, I feel like every, every pause and every cut is extremely intentional.
00:05:38
slimeballsteve
Hmm.
00:05:47
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Like everything

Film Preferences and Audience Reactions

00:05:48
Devon Kopete
yeah
00:05:48
YOUNGSHELDONRING
in this feels intentional and has a
00:05:51
Devon Kopete
this is a It's a weird comparison, Steve. Uh, but, uh, I can't, did you see skinnering with us at all, Steve?
00:06:01
slimeballsteve
No.
00:06:03
Devon Kopete
Like there's a bit of that where it's just like, let's just hold on the scene just long enough to get you to start being like, is there something I'm not seeing? Like what, what am I looking for?
00:06:13
slimeballsteve
I love when movies do that.
00:06:13
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Mm-hmm.
00:06:14
Devon Kopete
Uh, and then, yeah, and then sometimes it pays off.
00:06:16
Devon Kopete
Sometimes I just don't think there is anything.
00:06:18
fart souls
That's what Steve. That's what Steve McQueen does.
00:06:21
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Yes, I feel like with his movie, he holds on his actors a real...
00:06:21
fart souls
In his movies like.
00:06:22
Devon Kopete
Yeah.
00:06:24
fart souls
He holds, yeah, like there's 12 years of slave land again, like this is like crazy, but like there's there's the scene where the the dude is just like being strangled and like lynched or whatever. And it's like it's like kind of like almost like it's like out of line.
00:06:41
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Extremely uncomfortable.
00:06:42
fart souls
Yes, like he holds he holds the the the shot up for like it feels like 10 minutes just on the same thing going over and over again.
00:06:50
Devon Kopete
yeah
00:06:52
fart souls
And he does that a lot in shame, too.
00:06:54
YOUNGSHELDONRING
He does that in hunger as well, um when he's,
00:06:57
fart souls
I watch Hunger, but yeah, it seems like it's his style, that kind of thing.
00:06:59
Devon Kopete
They met on your games I was like, yeah Huh
00:07:00
YOUNGSHELDONRING
there's a whole scene where he just focuses on Michael Fassbender and then you watch his cigarette burn down, like he's talking and he never takes up off of it.
00:07:07
fart souls
That's so it.
00:07:09
YOUNGSHELDONRING
And he, cause he's like obviously terrified about what he's doing.
00:07:09
fart souls
That's insane.
00:07:12
YOUNGSHELDONRING
And yeah, it's just really a good bit of acting and ah and a cool bit of directing as well. um
00:07:19
fart souls
Yeah, I didn't see hunger.
00:07:21
YOUNGSHELDONRING
It's, um I want to say a lot, I got a lot to say about Long Legs and and none of it's too much you know spoilers.
00:07:28
fart souls
None of it's good.
00:07:29
slimeballsteve
Heh.
00:07:30
YOUNGSHELDONRING
But I think the overall feeling I get from this movie is just unsettling tenseness. Like it's just in every scene it permeates through the screen.
00:07:38
Devon Kopete
Yeah.
00:07:43
YOUNGSHELDONRING
And it does this thing too where it kind of makes you a little bit complicit, I feel sometimes. with what's going on, the bad things that are going on. Because I feel like the true bad guy of this movie is not is shown, but is not focused on.
00:07:59
Devon Kopete
fifth
00:08:01
YOUNGSHELDONRING
And we're kind of in league with them a little bit, I feel. I think that's kind of what the intention of the movie is, which is great. I love when a movie makes me feel bad.
00:08:14
YOUNGSHELDONRING
It generally makes me like, oh, you should feel bad for for liking this so much.
00:08:18
slimeballsteve
I'm the bad guy for watching the film.
00:08:23
YOUNGSHELDONRING
But I think that's really subtle I don't think that's like there are some movies like where evil works that I feel like actively that movie does not want you to watch it well Does so many things with the plot and the characters that are just so awful and sad and dark it's hard to watch and I feel like this does that but in a much more subtle way
00:08:47
slimeballsteve
Mm.
00:08:48
YOUNGSHELDONRING
And it's, I think a more of an open film for like a bigger audience than Where Evil Works, which I think is why it's doing so well.
00:08:54
Devon Kopete
. .
00:08:56
YOUNGSHELDONRING
I think it's it's accessible and the plot isn't too complicated, but it's just visually and atmospherically arresting in every scene.
00:08:57
Devon Kopete
.
00:09:08
Devon Kopete
And a good performances overall to like, you know, it has Nicholas.
00:09:11
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Absolutely.
00:09:13
YOUNGSHELDONRING
I think Michaela Rose, go on, I'm sorry.
00:09:14
Devon Kopete
Yeah.
00:09:16
Devon Kopete
Now, as you say, it has Nicholas Cage and he he does the thing you think he's gonna do in terms of like a Nicholas Cage freak out moment.
00:09:22
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Yes.
00:09:25
Devon Kopete
ah But it like It's not for laughs. It's not like silly. its Somehow they make it creepy, even though it's something you've seen and it's but basically been like mean to death.
00:09:35
YOUNGSHELDONRING
That's the
00:09:38
Devon Kopete
Like it's still scary.
00:09:38
YOUNGSHELDONRING
thing. Do you think, like, because I kind of think it is a little funny, but do you think that's coming from, oh, it's Nicholas Cage acting silly, or is it from the movie itself? And I kind of think it's both.
00:09:51
Devon Kopete
I mean, the movie itself does have a weird level of humor in it.
00:09:54
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Yeah, right. I've noticed that too.
00:09:55
Devon Kopete
It for sure it does, but I mean like I'm like that scene where he's ah you know, there's a scene where he's like in a car and It kind of goes and then it goes past the point of comfortable and then took me I got creeped out I was like god, this is creepy and Yeah Like I mean, yeah, I mean the beginning right the beginning with like some of the sound beats and
00:10:00
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Yes.
00:10:07
YOUNGSHELDONRING
yeah
00:10:11
YOUNGSHELDONRING
yeah You're right, you're right. I think if it was brought sooner, it might've just been a straight up comedy. Like if they didn't linger on him much.
00:10:25
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Yeah.
00:10:25
Devon Kopete
Like this is getting silly and then it just goes no this it's scary.
00:10:29
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Yeah, I stick with it.
00:10:29
Devon Kopete
Sorry Yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah and I mean, you know, it's good too because as soon as we got out A bunch of guys were like dog.
00:10:30
YOUNGSHELDONRING
It's actually very creepy. That's what I feel like most of his scenes are.
00:10:41
Devon Kopete
You hated that movie too, right double we struck We're like now do we loved it? Sorry about your life.
00:10:47
fart souls
That's so crazy, dude.
00:10:49
slimeballsteve
That's weird.
00:10:50
Devon Kopete
I Mean
00:10:50
YOUNGSHELDONRING
And they i wanted to see this guy do something crazy. And I'm like, well, you know, I don't think that's really the point of the movie. You know, like.
00:11:00
Devon Kopete
Yeah.
00:11:00
YOUNGSHELDONRING
you
00:11:00
slimeballsteve
there There are a handful of moments in my theater going experiences where people in the audience have had negative reactions to like incredible films.
00:11:06
Devon Kopete
Yeah.
00:11:12
YOUNGSHELDONRING
I know, man, i'm I'm very familiar with that.
00:11:14
slimeballsteve
There's like Blade Runner. I'll never forget when we went to go see that and the two guys in front of us were drunk and just like were heckling the film the entire time.
00:11:24
Devon Kopete
They were horrible.
00:11:26
slimeballsteve
Uh.
00:11:26
YOUNGSHELDONRING
When I went to go see Raid, there was three people in the audience with me. There was two guys, and every like fight scene, we were all like, yeah, yeah, what? And then there was this lady who was up in the front, and there was that scene where he like he drops a guy onto a broken piece of door, like neck first.
00:11:45
Devon Kopete
Oh, yeah.
00:11:46
YOUNGSHELDONRING
And so brutal she walked out.
00:11:48
slimeballsteve
She's like, I'm done. Do you remember when we went to go see Mad Max Fury Road?
00:11:51
Devon Kopete
This is disgusting.
00:11:53
slimeballsteve
And at the culmination of the chase at the end of the movie, the guy behind us went, mediocre.
00:12:05
slimeballsteve
He was, oh my God, I remember being like, you're crazy. Like that must have just been like somebody who has never been impressed by anything in their life.
00:12:17
YOUNGSHELDONRING
well pearl Is it device oh
00:12:17
Devon Kopete
Yeah, like I don't know just I mean I I I don't want to say it's not divisive but like
00:12:17
fart souls
I
00:12:25
Devon Kopete
the most recent no i'm saying like the most recent one for me was when i saw uh uncut gems for the first time and the movie ended and this woman was like that was the worst movie i've ever seen and i was like yeah it was disgusting
00:12:26
fart souls
have.
00:12:36
fart souls
Man No, yeah, I agree but it was also the one of the best things I've ever seen to Like worse as in like I couldn't even like hold my food down like that's how that's how stomach-churning that movie is
00:12:37
YOUNGSHELDONRING
a
00:12:42
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Yeah, exactly.
00:12:48
YOUNGSHELDONRING
I, listen, ah I think there is a large contention of people that do not like tension at all.
00:12:56
Devon Kopete
Yeah, you know, yeah, they want they want there to be a break.
00:12:57
YOUNGSHELDONRING
They just can't handle it. Like, yeah.
00:13:01
Devon Kopete
They want there to be a joke or or something like that.
00:13:01
slimeballsteve
Maybe.
00:13:04
slimeballsteve
Maybe they saw Adam Sandler and they went, oh, that comedy, this could be like Big Daddy or Wonder Boy.
00:13:12
YOUNGSHELDONRING
it's sort of like if you replace you replace the child with a big gem that he had smuggled to him in a fish look
00:13:12
Devon Kopete
They they want a big daddy. Yeah.
00:13:18
slimeballsteve
Or perhaps they thought it was a pornographic film, Uncut Gems. Hmm.
00:13:25
YOUNGSHELDONRING
at all these gens they're completely uncut
00:13:28
Devon Kopete
the
00:13:29
slimeballsteve
I was looking for some more penises with some more sch sweaters on, but not bad.
00:13:36
Devon Kopete
fifth
00:13:36
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Yeah, you know, um yeah, some people really just don't like when they ratchet up tension in films. It comes in horror movies, suspense films, uncut gems, which I don't know what the hell that was.
00:13:47
slimeballsteve
Can I throw you a curveball, Chris?
00:13:48
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Yeah.
00:13:49
slimeballsteve
Is there a movie, cause there's a lot of movies where like, you know, ah things are going good for the protagonists and you're like, oh, this is delightful. Oh, I hope there's no problems that stem from this in the future of this movie. Is there a movie where you just don't ever want it to kind of hit that like midpoint where it's like, uh-oh, things are going bad now.
00:14:14
YOUNGSHELDONRING
That's the thing like I've noticed.
00:14:15
Devon Kopete
Sunshine I just I'm like don't do it. Don't do it everything the missions going great guys
00:14:21
YOUNGSHELDONRING
You're saying, Steve, to clarify, you're saying that it maintains its light airiness and never gets tense and never
00:14:29
slimeballsteve
Yeah, like, the scenes where you get, like, a montage of, like, the protagonists just, like, going going about it and having a good time.
00:14:37
Devon Kopete
Still like every Scorsese Cry movie.
00:14:41
slimeballsteve
Yeah, like, if it's like...
00:14:42
Devon Kopete
Like you're like, oh, everything's just going great.
00:14:44
slimeballsteve
It's like, just the...
00:14:45
Devon Kopete
They're doing drugs. They're banging.
00:14:47
YOUNGSHELDONRING
um
00:14:47
Devon Kopete
They're banging broads.
00:14:48
slimeballsteve
the first part of Goodfellas.
00:14:48
Devon Kopete
I never want this to end.
00:14:50
YOUNGSHELDONRING
It's like controversial opinion, but when Spider-Man quit, then he was eating that hot dog, and he was just having a good time.
00:14:50
Devon Kopete
Yeah.
00:14:55
slimeballsteve
And Spider-Man 2!
00:14:57
YOUNGSHELDONRING
But he quit.
00:14:58
slimeballsteve
but
00:15:00
YOUNGSHELDONRING
He's going to class on time. He's raising his hand, getting the hot dog.
00:15:03
slimeballsteve
He's doing great!
00:15:04
YOUNGSHELDONRING
He's still really good.
00:15:06
Devon Kopete
Yeah, he he let like three children burn to death in a fire, but he had that hot dog.
00:15:10
YOUNGSHELDONRING
He looked happy, man. It was a good time in his life.
00:15:16
Devon Kopete
Jesus.
00:15:17
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Well, that's the fun thing about that movie is like, you want them to succeed, you know? You want Peter Parker to be happy, but it's not in the cards, man.
00:15:22
Devon Kopete
Yeah.
00:15:25
YOUNGSHELDONRING
you know
00:15:25
Devon Kopete
Although I will say I'm a little I'm a little fucked up, like I love it when Peter is just getting beat on and like it doesn't. It's so bad and into.
00:15:34
slimeballsteve
So you're the reverse, you're hoping for like Green Goblin, is his arc to never go bad.
00:15:37
Devon Kopete
Not only with Peter Parker, only with Peter Parker, because like that is Peter's life. He doesn't get to be happy, and I love that. Because it's so hard. like it's His life is so hard, and I love that.
00:15:50
YOUNGSHELDONRING
There was a moment when I was watching Ikaru, where I was like, I really hope he doesn't have cancer.
00:15:56
Devon Kopete
Man, it would really make my day if he if he was fine.
00:15:56
YOUNGSHELDONRING
i was like
00:15:57
fart souls
yeah I hope he doesn't die at the end.
00:16:01
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Yeah, like he's living his life, like what if the twist was he goes to the doctor and he's like, you don't have cancer, you're absolutely fine.
00:16:01
fart souls
ah
00:16:06
Devon Kopete
Dude, you're fine.
00:16:07
YOUNGSHELDONRING
And he got to, even eating all that plain noodles and water, it's making you sick.
00:16:07
Devon Kopete
You just had too much sodium.
00:16:14
Devon Kopete
yeah oh Okay.
00:16:16
slimeballsteve
Here, have a have some protein.
00:16:19
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Yeah, I mean, that's, I think, see, that occurs when you really, really, really, really love a character, you know? Like, when when default you call it love a character and you don't want anything to happen to them.
00:16:25
slimeballsteve
o You're right.
00:16:28
YOUNGSHELDONRING
And, ah you know, I feel like I always chase the characters that I don't like most of the time because maybe part of me is okay with them being hurt in the end, you know?
00:16:40
YOUNGSHELDONRING
like
00:16:40
slimeballsteve
So wait a second, Chris, does this confirm that you love Peter Parker?
00:16:44
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Like...
00:16:47
Devon Kopete
Well.
00:16:48
YOUNGSHELDONRING
I love Sam Rainey's fear part.
00:16:49
slimeballsteve
but Okay, that's that's a different beast, you're right, you're right.
00:16:52
YOUNGSHELDONRING
You get the cake and everything from that really hot girl that he never talks to. It's fun. um Yeah, like when I think of Uncut Gems, I think of like John Castavetti's movies like Killing of a Chinese Bookie where like you just keep seeing a character who's kind of shitty keep making his life worse. And you're like, you know, I don't really care because he's a piece of shit.
00:17:11
slimeballsteve
Mm hmm.
00:17:17
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Like and it's fun to watch somebody kind of fall apart. It's fun to watch a train wreck right money only one that likes that No
00:17:24
slimeballsteve
Oh, who would I'm trying to think of the inverse of that?
00:17:25
Devon Kopete
They're sicko dude.
00:17:29
slimeballsteve
um I really like when Charlie Chaplin ah really gets it.
00:17:33
Devon Kopete
What do you mean? What do you mean?
00:17:35
YOUNGSHELDONRING
it would be
00:17:37
slimeballsteve
I really like when he's just like eating shit and falling down and like having like old cigars blow up in his face.
00:17:44
YOUNGSHELDONRING
That charming chan- uh, little, little sc- scamp, you want him to get hurt? Really?
00:17:48
slimeballsteve
Yeah, you you know, I think that scamp is ah just a ah menace.
00:17:51
Devon Kopete
real sack of shit.
00:17:52
slimeballsteve
ah Not a hero, a menace to New York City.
00:17:57
Devon Kopete
So you're like Jay Jones and James in the silent film.
00:17:59
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Well, how was that?
00:18:00
slimeballsteve
Yeah.
00:18:02
YOUNGSHELDONRING
I really would love to have a reviewer who has the negative reaction to all of those really happy characters in movies.
00:18:07
fart souls
you
00:18:08
YOUNGSHELDONRING
like I s wish he would have got beat up some more. yeah to a negative review and snucks
00:18:19
YOUNGSHELDONRING
um well steve i'm i'm glad that you brought up bad endings to happy characters because i watched a bunch of terry gillam movies so we're gonna definitely talk about that a bunch um but before we get in that we have a a few other movies that we that that are floating around in our group here uh floating spinning maybe maybe
00:18:42
Devon Kopete
he
00:18:42
slimeballsteve
floaters we call these floaters oh twisties you saw both of them we
00:18:43
Devon Kopete
Twisting, maybe they're twisting.
00:18:45
YOUNGSHELDONRING
they'
00:18:47
Devon Kopete
Yeah, i so I saw I saw Twisters ah yesterday by my doctors.
00:18:53
fart souls
titty twisters.
00:18:55
Devon Kopete
We got twins! You don't remember that trailer? We got twins! There's two of them.
00:18:58
slimeballsteve
are twins
00:18:59
YOUNGSHELDONRING
and twins.
00:19:02
Devon Kopete
So I saw Twisters, the 2024 sequel, I guess. It's not a direct sequel. It's just kind of another movie with tornadoes in it.
00:19:15
YOUNGSHELDONRING
You call it a recall.
00:19:16
Devon Kopete
but but even because like they there's no real interest in like callbacks right there's there's basically you see the Dorothy aluminum mechanical thingies like in the very beginning ah because the main character who Kate played by Daisy Edgar Jones who I'm not super familiar with um
00:19:30
slimeballsteve
little balls.
00:19:44
fart souls
what she What else is she

'Twisters' and Film Industry Trends

00:19:45
fart souls
from?
00:19:45
Devon Kopete
she's in She was in a show called Normal People.
00:19:46
fart souls
Am I familiar with her?
00:19:49
Devon Kopete
She was in the TV series War of the Worlds, which I just realized was a thing.
00:19:53
fart souls
What?
00:19:54
Devon Kopete
She was in Fresh, Chris.
00:19:54
fart souls
one
00:19:56
Devon Kopete
ah She played Noah.
00:19:57
fart souls
What's her name again? Daisy. Oh, Eddie.
00:19:59
Devon Kopete
Daisy Edgar Jones.
00:20:00
fart souls
Oh, she's British.
00:20:00
Devon Kopete
Yeah.
00:20:02
fart souls
She's British.
00:20:02
Devon Kopete
she's pretty I like her. She's good. She was fun. Also a surprise Superman appearance.
00:20:07
fart souls
Now. Yeah. Oh, fuck.
00:20:11
Devon Kopete
David Cornswat's in this.
00:20:13
fart souls
Did he did his dad run into a fucking tornado and then Eddie watched him.
00:20:15
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking.
00:20:16
slimeballsteve
Hahahahaha
00:20:16
Devon Kopete
Yeah, yeah cuz uh Yeah, he kind of plays he kind of plays the goon.
00:20:20
fart souls
He watched them do it.
00:20:21
YOUNGSHELDONRING
with
00:20:23
Devon Kopete
He plays a goon in this And he's like he's extremely tall and extremely kind of No Glenn Powell's the bill packs and he's great.
00:20:26
fart souls
Good for him, man.
00:20:26
YOUNGSHELDONRING
oh
00:20:31
YOUNGSHELDONRING
So we see the build-backs in this.
00:20:31
fart souls
It's very he's very handsome And so we get we get Superman booster gold vibes from the two of them Like who who would have done pal be who would be who would who would he be in DC EU?
00:20:33
YOUNGSHELDONRING
No, wait.
00:20:38
Devon Kopete
I mean like Dude I will I don't know about booster gold vibes cuz Glenn Powell is just like the coolest guy ever in this movie Who would he be? did How Jordan he screams how Jordan Yeah Yeah you have to Yeah, um, and he's I mean, you know, it's a little whatever cuz he's like his big breakout was a maverick top gun but I
00:20:51
fart souls
Yeah, oh Yeah Yeah, him and Nathan filling going at it You know, give me that give me that movie
00:20:54
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Yeah, that's good Good pick.
00:21:09
fart souls
Yeah, he's Hal Jordan as Hal Jordan.
00:21:10
Devon Kopete
Yeah, but he's a he's a lot of fun, man. He like both leads are fun. They're entertaining. Kate has a ah terrible like the beginning of the movie. ah Her it's her and her friends from college and they're like, oh, we're going to try to their goal is they want to like do an experiment to see if they can like kind of choke a tornado, like make it dissipate. And they're like, OK, let's let's drive the thing in with the Dorothy with the look things that will scan the the the tornado and then they have these uh these bits of i guess some mixture of chemicals and they're like yeah based off this the aeration it should kind of kill the storm and they just happen to drive into an f5 tornado uh so brock lesner fucking tears it up bro uh and he murders like everybody gets murdered except for kate she's like the sole survivor
00:21:55
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Of course. I knew.
00:22:05
Devon Kopete
And then it's like a flash forward and then she's like, I don't do that anymore. And her old friend from college is like, I need you to help me chase this tornado because we gotta scan it digitally. And like that part is fine.
00:22:19
YOUNGSHELDONRING
We're going to skim it.
00:22:24
Devon Kopete
Like the setup's completely acceptable. I had no issues with it. I saw this thing in a Dolby theater, like a Dolby AMC theater second row.
00:22:34
fart souls
And it wasn't because Glenn Powell's on it
00:22:36
Devon Kopete
Uh, and my entire body was vibrating like near the end of the movie, just cause it was just so intense. Uh, no, I mean, he's, he's kind of like almost too perfect. Like he was a bull rider. He's a tornado chaser.
00:22:53
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Did he ride an 8-0 in this movie?
00:22:55
Devon Kopete
Dude, dude, yeah, he's the NATO chaser. He's the, he tames the natives, dude.
00:22:58
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Whoo!
00:23:00
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Whoo!
00:23:00
Devon Kopete
Cause this thing is, his thing is he's like, Hey, we want to know if you could shoot off rockets into the middle of a her a tornado. So they drive in and you've probably seen it in the trailers, but he has these drills. So he hits a thing and like these things drill the car, the truck into place.
00:23:15
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Oh yeah, I've actually teased that in real life. when
00:23:18
Devon Kopete
Yeah. And then, and then ah they're in the tornado and then they shoot off fireworks and do it. And he's like, So it turns out you can't shoot a rocket into a tornado. like i've i'm like i've seen I've seen these YouTube channels.
00:23:28
YOUNGSHELDONRING
then that reading
00:23:28
fart souls
Wait, so this is the.
00:23:31
Devon Kopete
I've seen these guys.
00:23:31
fart souls
This is the director, this is the director of Minari.
00:23:34
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Yeah, okay yeah, yeah, you got it man
00:23:35
Devon Kopete
Lee Isaac Chang? Chung? I think so.
00:23:38
fart souls
Yeah.
00:23:40
Devon Kopete
Yeah, Minari.
00:23:41
fart souls
Man, why did I not watch this movie then?
00:23:43
Devon Kopete
Dude, it's I mean, it just came out.
00:23:43
fart souls
I loved Minari.
00:23:46
Devon Kopete
it's ah you're not it's' I think it's sticking around. I think this movie did really well. I think it made like 100 plus mil. and the box office um but like visually yeah visually there's a lot of natives it's a lot of fun um i really like not you know it's not like it wasn't long legs it didn't really make me feel anything but like this does dude no cows i was waiting i was like where's the cows where are the cows and there's no cows
00:23:57
fart souls
ah But more like bucks office.
00:24:10
fart souls
With their with their cows, do they have an homage to the cows from the original? Wow.
00:24:19
YOUNGSHELDONRING
fresh to rotten for me. Fresh to rotten.
00:24:24
Devon Kopete
um do wait look at all post this but uh yeah like no just like i really like as as trite as it sounds uh it really felt kind of like a thrill ride like i was like wow this is like the this is probably like the most quintessential blockbuster summer movie of the year like oh you want to go in just see some dope shit on a big screen that's just
00:24:51
slimeballsteve
Yeah.
00:24:51
YOUNGSHELDONRING
what do you I will say though, this movie is going to fall off a fucking cliff when Wolverine and Deadpool come out.
00:24:51
Devon Kopete
Don't think too hard, it's fun, it's not gonna offend you or insult your intelligence.
00:24:56
slimeballsteve
Yeah.
00:25:02
YOUNGSHELDONRING
It's gonna fall off a cliff, man.
00:25:03
Devon Kopete
Oh yeah, but this might have, I will say, I think this might have legs because it might have some long legs just because of the older, like my parents just randomly without me talking about it were like, oh, we saw twisters.
00:25:08
slimeballsteve
long legs Oh, he's uh, he's a big Ryan Reynolds guy
00:25:20
Devon Kopete
Like, this is a movie that older people are definitely gonna go and see.
00:25:21
YOUNGSHELDONRING
devin My parents bought tickets to Wolverine vs Deadpool. They don't go to see movies ever.
00:25:28
Devon Kopete
Dude, why does your dad, your dad doesn't care about Wolverine and Deadpool.
00:25:31
YOUNGSHELDONRING
My dad loves Deadpool.
00:25:33
Devon Kopete
Your dad loves Deadpool?
00:25:35
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Yeah, 100%. Both my mom and my dad.
00:25:37
Devon Kopete
Steve, does your mom love Deadpool?
00:25:37
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Fucking...
00:25:39
Devon Kopete
Would your mom, okay, Steve, what movie would your mom see? Twisters or Wolverine and Deadpool?
00:25:44
slimeballsteve
neither Runaway Bride 2.
00:25:46
Devon Kopete
Oh.
00:25:48
YOUNGSHELDONRING
ah God damn it!
00:25:49
Devon Kopete
I'm just saying I think I think Twisters has like the let's see it because it's the big movie in the weekend and then I think it's gonna stick around just solely because there's gonna be some people some older people going I want to see the Twisters movie.
00:26:01
YOUNGSHELDONRING
I think it's going to get it.
00:26:01
slimeballsteve
i think people are I think people are going to see Twisters hoping it's the same thing as Alien to Aliens, where it's like, oh, it's a paramilitary unit's gonna take down a bunch of Twisters.
00:26:12
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Game over, man!
00:26:14
Devon Kopete
What?
00:26:14
fart souls
I want to see some Nados.
00:26:16
slimeballsteve
flamethrowers and shit.
00:26:17
Devon Kopete
yeah
00:26:17
slimeballsteve
It would be sick, man.
00:26:18
fart souls
I want to see some Nados.
00:26:19
Devon Kopete
And like every other scene, dude, every other scene, though, I was like, oh, this is a ride.
00:26:20
slimeballsteve
Game over.
00:26:24
Devon Kopete
ah This is a ride. ah This is like there's just so many ways I can update this, this, you know, the Twisters ride.
00:26:31
slimeballsteve
Do you remember? Yeah, the Twisters.
00:26:33
Devon Kopete
That's a fun ride, dude.
00:26:33
slimeballsteve
It wasn't it it wasn't really a ride. It was just kind of like a.
00:26:36
Devon Kopete
What's an experience, you know?
00:26:37
slimeballsteve
Yeah, it was like a little show where like a little set that you're on gets all fucked up.
00:26:40
Devon Kopete
Yeah, well, fucking they can do that because it eats up a movie theater.
00:26:46
slimeballsteve
That's kind of fun.
00:26:46
Devon Kopete
And I was like, this is cute.
00:26:47
slimeballsteve
They bring you in and they're like, all right, everybody sit down.
00:26:49
Devon Kopete
yeah
00:26:50
slimeballsteve
We're going to watch the movie from 1998 Twister starring Helen.
00:26:52
Devon Kopete
Yeah Yeah There's twins And they'll build and then ah Glenn Powell's like, hey you want to shoot some shit into this tornado?
00:26:54
slimeballsteve
Oh no, there's a tornado. There's another one.
00:26:59
fart souls
Thanks.
00:27:00
slimeballsteve
Twins.
00:27:06
Devon Kopete
We're gonna hit it with dr.
00:27:06
YOUNGSHELDONRING
I'm gonna ride her.
00:27:08
Devon Kopete
Logmas arrived Yeah I know
00:27:09
YOUNGSHELDONRING
I'm gonna ride this nado.
00:27:10
slimeballsteve
I'm telling you what though, they made a mistake. They shouldn't have gotten rid of the King Kong ride.
00:27:16
Devon Kopete
You know what's ah interesting though? ah Some drama in this movie.
00:27:20
slimeballsteve
Oh, in Twisters.
00:27:20
Devon Kopete
because ah there's a There's a scene where they they cut a kiss.
00:27:27
slimeballsteve
Hmm.
00:27:27
Devon Kopete
They cut out the the final kiss scene.
00:27:29
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Too sloppy?
00:27:31
slimeballsteve
Why'd they cut it?
00:27:31
fart souls
No spoilers!
00:27:31
slimeballsteve
Why'd they cut it?
00:27:32
Devon Kopete
No, it's not in the movie, John.
00:27:34
slimeballsteve
Well, we don't know who's kissing.
00:27:35
fart souls
Yeah, but I didn't know that they weren't even gonna have a kiss scene anyway.
00:27:38
Devon Kopete
Oh, really?
00:27:38
fart souls
What if I wanted to expect it and then get it?
00:27:40
Devon Kopete
Yeah.
00:27:40
YOUNGSHELDONRING
yeah it personally I personally this is what I think happened if you you know mind ah entertaining a theory Glenn Powell didn't want to kiss this woman so they had to do a CGI kiss like in that Jonah Hill movie and whoa it looks so bad
00:27:40
fart souls
ah You ruined the experience for me, Devin.
00:27:41
Devon Kopete
No, I saved you the disappointment.
00:27:44
slimeballsteve
Oh. Yeah.
00:27:53
Devon Kopete
but
00:27:54
fart souls
Oh god.
00:27:55
Devon Kopete
Hahaha No, cuz I think like somebody posted like the deleted scene of them like sucking face and that somebody was like This is what movies were good.
00:27:56
YOUNGSHELDONRING
and
00:28:04
Devon Kopete
Like it was one of those like when men were men type of post I
00:28:06
slimeballsteve
Oh, oh dear.
00:28:07
YOUNGSHELDONRING
You know what's crazy about that too? They cut the kissing scene and they they didn't mention climate change once for these morons. And now they're upset about not having a kissing scene. They gave you what you wanted. They gave you a movie with no science.
00:28:20
Devon Kopete
Yeah.
00:28:21
YOUNGSHELDONRING
It's just about NATO's.
00:28:21
slimeballsteve
It's about chasing germanas.
00:28:23
Devon Kopete
He said, uh, you ready? That's what the director said. I feel like audiences are in a different place of wanting to kiss or not wanting to kiss. I tried the kiss and it was very polarizing and it stopped because of the performance. This no kiss shot was the other option I had filmed on the day. And I got to say, I like it better.
00:28:41
YOUNGSHELDONRING
I'm gonna be honest with you.
00:28:42
Devon Kopete
I think it's a, I think it's better.
00:28:43
YOUNGSHELDONRING
I'm gonna go on a limb here. I think this director's an asshole.
00:28:46
Devon Kopete
and this guy he said I like when these whole lots kiss the guy who did but nor is a topic Chris come on and
00:28:48
YOUNGSHELDONRING
I think he's... I think he is being totally puppeted by whatever producer is making this movie. He doesn't want to offend anybody.
00:28:57
fart souls
yeah Maybe yeah Maybe after maybe after he got shit on like because he didn't get fucking nominated for best picture, you know Because they said it wasn't American Then yeah, and he's just trying to get that bad Chris now.
00:28:59
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Yeah, fuck that. This guy sucks. yeah
00:29:08
YOUNGSHELDONRING
If it's spite... um If it was spite, I would love it.
00:29:14
YOUNGSHELDONRING
I know, but I hate it.
00:29:14
fart souls
He's just like, you know what?
00:29:15
Devon Kopete
wait wait so wait chris but why do you why is he an asshole i'm trying to figure this out okay
00:29:15
fart souls
Fuck it
00:29:16
YOUNGSHELDONRING
And I don't like it.
00:29:20
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Okay, so i easy. um So he said initially about this film that movies don't need to have any type of meaning to them. They can just be a movie. And if you read between the lines of what he's actually saying there, what he's saying is the audience that we're making this movie for is too stupid and angry. to put anything of meaning into it because they'll get upset and then boycott it. So now he's talking about this kiss scene and about how it's too divisive. So he's going back to that scene. Well, you know, he's like, oh, this audience is too stupid and they're too childish and immature to really ah like this thing.
00:29:56
YOUNGSHELDONRING
So I'm not putting it in the movie like that. I don't like that. I think that.
00:30:00
Devon Kopete
Maybe. i don't I feel like you're you're digging a little bit. I think you're digging.
00:30:02
YOUNGSHELDONRING
No, I'm not. No, I'm not digging. This is why.
00:30:05
Devon Kopete
No, because if he's like, oh, they're all dumb, he just would have put a kiss in there, because that's like what you do.
00:30:09
YOUNGSHELDONRING
No, oh no, no, it's divisive. Any type of sexuality in any movie is divisive. Anything like that. He's trying to get these sops out in the middle of America to complete this movie.
00:30:19
Devon Kopete
This was that's not Kate's journey Chris.
00:30:22
YOUNGSHELDONRING
It's stupid. And this guy, this guy is compromising shit and I don't like him. I don't like him.
00:30:26
Devon Kopete
Oh Man let them let the man.
00:30:26
slimeballsteve
I think
00:30:27
fart souls
Compromising shit for twisters there's it's just twists just twisters it's just
00:30:28
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Nope, nope.
00:30:29
Devon Kopete
Yeah, let the man make a twister movie
00:30:31
YOUNGSHELDONRING
He's a piece of shit. He's a piece of shit.
00:30:33
fart souls
but
00:30:33
slimeballsteve
though, if you don't know if your characters at the end of your movie should like do like a kiss, like I feel like you don't have a grip.
00:30:34
YOUNGSHELDONRING
He's a piece of shit. Yeah, he is.
00:30:44
Devon Kopete
Well, i i think what he's I think what he's saying, though, as somebody who saw the movie, I think what he's saying, though, is like it makes more sense if they don't kiss because of the way that the characters' backstories are.
00:30:45
slimeballsteve
i feel like you
00:30:55
YOUNGSHELDONRING
This is money.
00:30:56
fart souls
Yeah, I mean like I feel like Fincher I feel like Fincher does shit like this where he just films shit and then sees if it works later And then if it doesn't work, it doesn't work it I don't know man.
00:30:57
YOUNGSHELDONRING
This is money talking. This is money talking.
00:31:04
YOUNGSHELDONRING
No, no, finer or Fincher doesn't care about the audience to see in his movie. This guy cares more about that than the movie itself.
00:31:09
Devon Kopete
i think i think I think you filmed two takes.
00:31:10
YOUNGSHELDONRING
It's a piece of shit.
00:31:10
fart souls
This guy made Minari. I think I think he owes I think I think he's owed the bat I think he's owed the benefit of the doubt because he made Minari, which is a really good movie
00:31:13
Devon Kopete
I think you filmed a take with a kiss and what without. It's not like they made reshoots, you know?
00:31:18
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Nah. Nope. Nope.
00:31:22
slimeballsteve
I think there is a happy medium where he should have done like a real lame magic trick.
00:31:22
YOUNGSHELDONRING
I love shit.
00:31:26
fart souls
But this is like this is also <unk>s also some Michael Jordan shit where Chris is just fabricating stuff to get mad about it.
00:31:32
YOUNGSHELDONRING
i' not I'm not fabricating it.
00:31:33
fart souls
That's what it feels like, Chris.
00:31:34
Devon Kopete
You said,
00:31:34
YOUNGSHELDONRING
I'm not fabricating anything.
00:31:35
fart souls
Chris is just making up a theory so he could be mad at this guy.
00:31:36
YOUNGSHELDONRING
I'm not fabricating anything. I'm not making up a theory. I'm not making up a theory. I'm simply using critical thinking to to read between the lines of what somebody is saying.
00:31:42
fart souls
problem not I don't know, dude.
00:31:45
YOUNGSHELDONRING
And he can't come out and say that his audience is full of dummies. He's got to say something nice.
00:31:51
Devon Kopete
I think, but, I mean, do you think if he felt that way, he would have, I think he would have passed on Twisters, dude.
00:31:51
YOUNGSHELDONRING
And that's what he's doing.
00:31:56
YOUNGSHELDONRING
No, he wouldn't have because he wants to make money. That's what it's all about. It's not about artistic license or creativity.
00:32:04
slimeballsteve
ah
00:32:04
YOUNGSHELDONRING
He wants to make coffee money.
00:32:04
fart souls
Yeah, well, Fincher is deciding to do fucking Squid Game Remake instead of Mine Hunters.
00:32:05
slimeballsteve
but what hot on
00:32:09
slimeballsteve
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
00:32:09
YOUNGSHELDONRING
That sucks too, John.
00:32:11
fart souls
So you know what?
00:32:12
slimeballsteve
So it is interesting because Twisters 2 is not like...
00:32:13
fart souls
You know what, Chris? Where's the rage at Fincher then?
00:32:17
Devon Kopete
Whoa, whoa, Steve, have some respect, Twisters.
00:32:19
slimeballsteve
Well, I am, I'm sorry, twister Twisters, they don't they don't like drum up like Helen Hunt in this movie. Like do they, I mean, aside from like that little thing, right?
00:32:27
Devon Kopete
No, no, there's there's like, no, there's absolutely as as not. I saw i like Twister. Like when I saw it, I see I've seen it like five times in my life.
00:32:37
YOUNGSHELDONRING
And I don't, I literally stinks.
00:32:37
Devon Kopete
I can't. Yeah, but I'm so I'm just saying like I could I'm not the biggest Twisters fan, but like there was nothing so overt I picked up on like an homage, you know, outside of the Dorothy ah machine things in the very beginning of the movie.
00:32:40
YOUNGSHELDONRING
That's the other thing.
00:32:53
fart souls
Yeah, let Kate and Clark get her back, Chris. Don't get mad. Don't hate the player, hate the game, is what I'm saying.
00:32:58
slimeballsteve
I feel like most people won't remember Twister.
00:32:58
YOUNGSHELDONRING
i I do, but I hate the player too.
00:33:03
Devon Kopete
We had my rape, which was fun, man.
00:33:03
fart souls
Because he let because he didn't because he didn't he didn't put a kiss scene at the end of the movie.
00:33:07
YOUNGSHELDONRING
No, no, no, no, no. That's not at all what I'm saying. I'm saying he's changing and and altering his product so that a dumber audience can accept it. That's what he's saying. And if you don't see that, you haven't been paying attention to anything.
00:33:19
Devon Kopete
i't I just feel like a dumber audience would be okay with a kiss scene, because it was half the half the audience is mad about it.
00:33:24
YOUNGSHELDONRING
No, because it's too divisive, like he said, because anything of value is divisive.
00:33:32
YOUNGSHELDONRING
That's how I picked it up.
00:33:32
Devon Kopete
Note, Chris.
00:33:33
fart souls
Yeah, but also anything divisive could be valuable, too.
00:33:34
YOUNGSHELDONRING
so
00:33:37
fart souls
So.
00:33:37
YOUNGSHELDONRING
I just, I, well you're right, but it's, he won't take that chance because he wants to make money.
00:33:42
fart souls
But it's also Twisters, Chris, it's not like it's not like a passion project, it doesn't seem like he's.
00:33:44
YOUNGSHELDONRING
No, I, that doesn't, no, no. That doesn't give him a pass. He shouldn't have said anything.
00:33:48
fart souls
Oh, my goodness.
00:33:50
Devon Kopete
but
00:33:50
YOUNGSHELDONRING
He should, he should have, you know what he should have did? He should have kept, you know what he should have did?
00:33:52
fart souls
He already made his movie, it's Minari, and it's a great movie.
00:33:54
YOUNGSHELDONRING
You know what he should have did? You know what he should have did? He should have kept his mouth fucking shut. Had the movie come out and not said any of this. That's my
00:34:01
fart souls
But he has to, he's got to push the movie.
00:34:03
YOUNGSHELDONRING
No, he doesn't.
00:34:04
fart souls
how to market it
00:34:04
YOUNGSHELDONRING
He could just be like, hey, it's a great movie. Come see it. He doesn't have to say all this dumb.
00:34:07
Devon Kopete
You know Chris, I think you need to spend your hard-earned American dollars and watch twisters and then you can make your final decision Well to me Another Chris
00:34:08
fart souls
That would be that would be an asshole I'll be asshole move Yeah, and you know what you said Sidney Sweeney's career would have been done because she was in this movie And she's thriving right now Chris.
00:34:12
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Nobody, nobody came out and said, hey, Madam Webb's not going to mean anything. So hope you guys don't mind that. They didn't. They just had that piece of shit fall out of them.
00:34:20
slimeballsteve
Thank
00:34:21
YOUNGSHELDONRING
but my It's actually to be honest, actually, actually, to be honest, it's it's it's ah a more of an adult thing to not just say anything and have this piece of shit come out.
00:34:27
fart souls
She's thriving
00:34:32
Devon Kopete
and But I mean, I will say Chris like I I don't remember the full context But I feel like these are just questions asked of him.
00:34:34
YOUNGSHELDONRING
that
00:34:41
Devon Kopete
They're like, hey, why didn't you mention? Like global warming in your movie about tornadoes and like I don't think he came out said this is my message.
00:34:49
slimeballsteve
you.
00:34:51
Devon Kopete
There is no message I think he was just responding to a question. It's like it just seems like a lot.
00:34:55
fart souls
I just want to make a movie about tornadoes.
00:34:56
Devon Kopete
I just want my tornadoes, man
00:34:57
YOUNGSHELDONRING
No, no. i I disagree with that that entire outlook on that.
00:35:00
Devon Kopete
but
00:35:02
fart souls
Or are you reading too much into it and it's really not that deep?
00:35:03
YOUNGSHELDONRING
I think you're you're not reading between the lines here, man. I really do. I think this guy is trying to make a profitable movie. No, I'm not reading too much into it because I know what this stuff is. I know what they're trying to do. I know what the endgame is and that's money.
00:35:18
fart souls
Yeah, he's trying to make money and also Chris
00:35:19
YOUNGSHELDONRING
I get it. I get it.
00:35:20
fart souls
if There if there were no bad movies there wouldn't be any good movies Chris, so you know what oh?
00:35:20
YOUNGSHELDONRING
But here, let me let me
00:35:24
YOUNGSHELDONRING
I don't care about that. So I could still shit on the people that make them. Here's the deal.
00:35:29
fart souls
My god
00:35:29
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Here's the problem. It's the dumbing down, the slow progress, the slippery slope that all these movies are eventually are going to become.
00:35:36
Devon Kopete
Must...
00:35:38
YOUNGSHELDONRING
And I don't like that. I see the end ah goal here and it makes me upset. And that's all I'm going to say about it. That's how I'm leaving it. I don't feel comfortable about this. It makes me

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00:35:49
YOUNGSHELDONRING
upset.
00:35:51
fart souls
I just think it's not that deep.
00:35:52
YOUNGSHELDONRING
I think it is that deep.
00:35:52
fart souls
i think i said And i said I said this before when we were arguing about Madam Web.
00:35:56
YOUNGSHELDONRING
I know you said it before, but I don't, I don't agree.
00:35:58
fart souls
I just don't think it's.
00:35:59
YOUNGSHELDONRING
I don't agree with that at all. I think you're not, you're not looking at the big picture.
00:36:03
Devon Kopete
I think you guys need to, I think you guys need to ask the real questions.
00:36:04
YOUNGSHELDONRING
that
00:36:06
Devon Kopete
How come Glenn Powell never changes his shirt? You wear his same shirt over four days.
00:36:10
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Because it um so that true he's to sell that shirt to
00:36:11
fart souls
Because he's an asshole and he's a bad person.
00:36:11
Devon Kopete
You gotta smell it. You gotta smell so bad.
00:36:14
slimeballsteve
Dude, you're gonna smell real bad after one day.
00:36:15
Devon Kopete
He's in like seven tornadoes in this movie and he doesn't change his shirt once.
00:36:21
slimeballsteve
Oh, you think that's like a thing? Like, all right, we're gonna put this on eBay after the movie.
00:36:24
fart souls
Yeah, that's why we have so many fucking Chevy Tahoes and the Avengers movies. Because they got they got they got to put those in there.
00:36:31
Devon Kopete
Uh,
00:36:32
YOUNGSHELDONRING
We got to put them in there.
00:36:32
Devon Kopete
ah
00:36:33
YOUNGSHELDONRING
We got to make money.
00:36:33
slimeballsteve
You know what, I don't remember the car from Avengers, but I do remember that whenever they're undercover, they wear a baseball hat.
00:36:38
fart souls
Iron Man had he always had a Lexus or something like or not an Acura, he always had an Acura like NSX or something in every scene that he was from his heart.
00:36:45
slimeballsteve
Would it be more distracting if like all the heroes wore like inside out two jackets?
00:36:45
Devon Kopete
I'll just. Yes, absolutely. it would What do you mean?
00:36:54
slimeballsteve
are The scene where Peter Parker is being whisked away after the snap, he's just wearing a big Toy Story 5 jacket.
00:37:04
Devon Kopete
Well, maybe.
00:37:04
YOUNGSHELDONRING
it will get
00:37:06
slimeballsteve
It will, it will, you're right.
00:37:07
YOUNGSHELDONRING
there our down
00:37:08
slimeballsteve
They're gonna they're gonna they're goingnna make Tom Holland wear a ah green screen jacket that they they can constantly update on Disney Plus.
00:37:16
YOUNGSHELDONRING
yeah
00:37:17
slimeballsteve
So when you watch that movie, the newest movie is wearing a jacket for her.
00:37:17
Devon Kopete
Well,
00:37:22
Devon Kopete
well and I'll be quick about this part, but the other movie, or not movie, the other thing I watched, dripping with sub, you know, subs, no, no, you know, subversive thinking, ah real deep in the paint, ah the I finished the boys, caught up and I watched all the boys,
00:37:31
slimeballsteve
ah Oh.
00:37:32
YOUNGSHELDONRING
It will get to that point soon. so
00:37:33
slimeballsteve
Subby goodness.
00:37:33
YOUNGSHELDONRING
like You talk about.
00:37:40
fart souls
Okay.
00:37:41
slimeballsteve
Oh.
00:37:44
YOUNGSHELDONRING
I also finished the voice.
00:37:45
Devon Kopete
Yeah. And, um you know, I think ah I think kind of what I was talking about previously kind of held true was like.
00:37:53
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Yeah.
00:37:53
Devon Kopete
This season could have been an email like.
00:37:56
slimeballsteve
Yeah.
00:37:56
YOUNGSHELDONRING
It's very weak. It's very.
00:37:57
Devon Kopete
It was just it was like just all build up to the final season, which is like, guys, you could have just added like three extra episodes to the last season and just probably did all this.
00:38:06
YOUNGSHELDONRING
I will say though, Devin, the very last reveal, that made me kind of happy because I like that character so much.
00:38:13
Devon Kopete
Yeah, I mean, I guess, unfortunately, I'd like read something where they're like, so-and-so's returning.
00:38:18
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Oh, really?
00:38:18
Devon Kopete
And I was like, oh, I was like, cool.
00:38:19
YOUNGSHELDONRING
That's both?
00:38:21
Devon Kopete
And so I wasn't as surprised. But I mean, you're right. Definite bright spot.
00:38:27
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Yeah.
00:38:27
Devon Kopete
Definitely into it.
00:38:28
YOUNGSHELDONRING
I'm down.
00:38:28
Devon Kopete
And I think the last season is going to be a lot of fun. I just just felt a lot of this felt like spinning its wheels.
00:38:31
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Yeah.
00:38:35
Devon Kopete
It's not bad. It's a decent enough. season it's just it very much just felt like like we kind of got here a lot quicker guys ah but instead we had to deal with stupid subplots uh that just don't go anywhere ah i gotta start that
00:38:49
YOUNGSHELDONRING
I think I feel the same way about House of the Dragon, to be honest. like I've been like watching that and there are some really bright spots in the season, don't get me wrong, but I feel like the lows are real low and it's like it's hard to maintain interest. This this episode was not good, the most recent one.
00:39:10
Devon Kopete
I saw a screenshot and...
00:39:12
YOUNGSHELDONRING
and
00:39:13
fart souls
Oh, is that why is that why I haven't heard anything about it? Like last week or a couple of weeks ago, everyone was saying it's the best show ever on earth planet Earth.
00:39:19
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Totally.
00:39:21
Devon Kopete
Yeah, people were up and down, man.
00:39:21
fart souls
And now it's just like radio. It's like right radio silence.
00:39:24
Devon Kopete
Yeah. And and i've I've been...
00:39:26
YOUNGSHELDONRING
That's true.
00:39:26
fart souls
Like did the episode even come out.
00:39:30
Devon Kopete
I'm still savoring the bear. I got one left ah before I can make my final solve this error.
00:39:34
fart souls
Oh, I did not start the bear, Devin. I did start. I started Cobra Kai, though.
00:39:39
Devon Kopete
and Oh, yeah.
00:39:40
slimeballsteve
oh
00:39:41
Devon Kopete
i ah Well, the first support one.
00:39:41
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Wait, that started? The new season?
00:39:44
fart souls
Yeah, but you know get this you want to talk about fucking money hungry assholes Chris.
00:39:49
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Yeah.
00:39:49
fart souls
How about your favorite company Netflix? Splitting Cobra Kai up into three parts Yeah, yeah five episodes now five episodes in fucking November and then five episodes or something in an unknown time They're gonna yeah, they're gonna do this for stranger things to fucking bank bank it Bank that money Steve
00:39:55
YOUNGSHELDONRING
three parts three parts what
00:40:01
slimeballsteve
Oh, man, they're really dragging that out.
00:40:05
YOUNGSHELDONRING
the fuck yeah that's all man
00:40:12
slimeballsteve
We'll be watching the same season of Stranger Things for like four years.
00:40:15
fart souls
Yeah, yeah, that's what's going to happen, dude.
00:40:16
Devon Kopete
Yeah, you know what attack on Titan did that the final season was like three legitimately like three years long No, no that that was egregious.
00:40:17
YOUNGSHELDONRING
and
00:40:22
fart souls
Yeah, but that's anime. they They always do that with anime, right?
00:40:25
YOUNGSHELDONRING
um
00:40:27
Devon Kopete
I think everybody was like well, come on guys what do we do for
00:40:28
fart souls
Oh, really?
00:40:29
YOUNGSHELDONRING
How long are each episode? Is it an hour?
00:40:32
fart souls
For Cobra Kai, like 30 minutes.
00:40:33
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Yeah. 30 minutes? Really?
00:40:36
fart souls
Yeah, it's like there's so much cheese in the first episode, though. I wanted to text to you about it.
00:40:40
Devon Kopete
Yeah.
00:40:43
Devon Kopete
I'm excited.
00:40:43
fart souls
But um like.
00:40:45
YOUNGSHELDONRING
So you get a two and a half hour move.
00:40:46
fart souls
Everybody's fat and old all the kids are fat and old and balding now like that's what it feels like like they just seem too old They're they're seniors.
00:40:48
Devon Kopete
Wait, No, no. Wait, has there been a time? Wait, can you, is there a time skip?
00:40:56
fart souls
They're seniors in high school now, so Yeah, but like ah what's the fucking the annoying friend's name that she has no I ain't good at uh now Yeah Hawks friend he's like clearly balding and like fucking he's chubby and
00:40:57
Devon Kopete
Oh man, so they're, and like in real life, they're like 32.
00:41:05
Devon Kopete
Okay, not Hawk Hawk's friend, right? Oh that gets sucks dude Dude you guys know karate oh two Dude 11 11 stacked now, dude, you can't you got fix that
00:41:16
fart souls
like they're and like ah And even like miguel likeguel like Miguel's got like a fucking 5 o'clock shadow in every scene, and he looks he looks like he's 35 years old.
00:41:23
YOUNGSHELDONRING
you know You know, in Stranger Things, the new season, they're digitally de-aging those kids.
00:41:24
fart souls
It's crazy, dude.
00:41:28
slimeballsteve
Oh yeah.
00:41:28
fart souls
They have to. I feel like, you know what? Good. Spend the money on that, because that would take me out.
00:41:35
YOUNGSHELDONRING
yeah
00:41:36
Devon Kopete
Yeah, fix that.
00:41:37
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Isn't she pregnant, too? Well, she's...
00:41:39
Devon Kopete
Oh, no I mean, I don't know.
00:41:40
fart souls
Oh, man.
00:41:41
Devon Kopete
I don't know. But I just I've seen some videos and I'm like, what? Put some clothes on. It's me, which is now how I know what age I am.
00:41:50
YOUNGSHELDONRING
She has room!
00:41:51
Devon Kopete
Also, I was like, how dare you? You can't grow. Oh, dude, you're right, though. That kid sucks, John. And I can't remember his name.
00:42:01
fart souls
Yeah, what is what is his name?
00:42:03
Devon Kopete
The fuck is his name?
00:42:04
fart souls
It's like Dimitri Dimitri, I think.
00:42:06
Devon Kopete
Yeah, it's Dimitri.
00:42:06
slimeballsteve
I think you're right.
00:42:06
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Oh, they're talking?
00:42:06
slimeballsteve
Yeah. Yeah. Dimitri.
00:42:07
YOUNGSHELDONRING
They're talking with black hair?
00:42:09
Devon Kopete
Yeah.
00:42:09
fart souls
No, yeah.
00:42:10
Devon Kopete
Yeah, yeah, he's got black hair. And like, what pisses me off is he fucking clown hawk that one time. And I was like, there's no fucking way. Oh, yes.
00:42:19
slimeballsteve
Oh, at the party.
00:42:19
fart souls
What?
00:42:20
Devon Kopete
Yeah, dude, it's fucking embarrassing.
00:42:20
fart souls
Yeah. What pissed me off is in the in the first season, he said he'd rather.
00:42:22
slimeballsteve
And then they talked about Dr. Who.
00:42:26
fart souls
He'd rather be at home playing crucible control instead of karate. And nobody talks like that. That plays destiny.
00:42:32
slimeballsteve
I would rather.
00:42:32
fart souls
Nobody says, I want to play crucible control. It's not even called that in the game. It's just called the crucible.
00:42:38
Devon Kopete
good
00:42:39
fart souls
The game type is control.
00:42:39
Devon Kopete
yeah I saw, I'm not going to lie.
00:42:40
fart souls
like it's
00:42:41
Devon Kopete
ah It's funny that you bring that. It's funny that you bring that up there, John.
00:42:44
fart souls
It's just stupid.
00:42:45
Devon Kopete
It's because like I saw like a watch party or something, like a picture.
00:42:46
fart souls
It's bad writing.
00:42:49
slimeballsteve
Mm.
00:42:50
Devon Kopete
And I was like, I was like, one of these kids looks real weird and I couldn't figure it out because I was like working. But I was like, what's going on with these kids? And it may have been him. It may have been the balding one.
00:43:05
fart souls
Like he's got a he's like he's not balding, but like his hairline is like clearly receding now. He's a little chubbier. He doesn't look and as nerdy, so like he just looks like an adult. Like at least Hawk has like his hair, so like he can mask his age in this with that, you know.
00:43:16
Devon Kopete
What yeah Let's see ah yeah like that All right, so
00:43:19
YOUNGSHELDONRING
In their 20s now these kids It's
00:43:22
fart souls
Probably, yeah.
00:43:24
slimeballsteve
Dimitri looks like Stingray.
00:43:25
fart souls
May even to even Tories like ah fought for now, maybe I don't know, dude.
00:43:35
fart souls
yes i Yeah, it's like it's unwatchable.
00:43:36
Devon Kopete
yeah
00:43:36
fart souls
That is what I'm trying to tell you is we All of our years Yeah, but yeah yeah, but you know I'll talk about like Tori used to be like, you know smoking I mean See it's 23 23
00:43:38
Devon Kopete
This is a four.
00:43:39
YOUNGSHELDONRING
evolving to
00:43:40
Devon Kopete
This high school student's, this high school student's a four, dude. I can't watch this show anymore.
00:43:48
Devon Kopete
Nah, nah, I know it. So Miguel was born in 2001. So what's that make him like? ah Tanner, who's a Robby, holds Robby. I don't fucking know. I don't care enough. um
00:44:04
fart souls
I mean, Robbie, I guess kind of looks the same. um
00:44:09
Devon Kopete
<unk>
00:44:09
fart souls
Samantha looks chubbier.
00:44:09
Devon Kopete
i kicking
00:44:12
fart souls
I don't know, dude, that I can't kid like the the the the the the karate kids are just like they just don't look like kids anymore.
00:44:13
Devon Kopete
for that Yeah, yeah, but Jacob butter Tran
00:44:22
fart souls
Like all of the our fears of for stranger things are are just coming to fruition with Cobra I first.
00:44:25
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Hahaha.
00:44:26
slimeballsteve
with cover copy.
00:44:28
fart souls
That's what it feels like. Now you'll you'll say that and when you want when you start it just start it tonight. Just watch

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00:44:34
fart souls
the first episode tonight And give me a thumbs up or thumbs down when you see when you see Cory Cholo, I think cholo it's x it's x olo.
00:44:37
Devon Kopete
oh My god
00:44:39
Devon Kopete
OK, yeah, I will. Oh, you're right, though, dude. ah What's his name? I'm looking at a picture of Miguel. What the how do you pronounce his name?
00:44:51
Devon Kopete
Zolo Zolo XO, L.O.
00:44:53
fart souls
Yeah, cholo. It's cholo
00:44:55
Devon Kopete
Cholo. Yeah, it sounds weird when I say it. Yeah, he's he's like been rocking that beard for a while now.
00:45:01
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Chrollo Meridwina. Meridwina. Is that anything?
00:45:07
Devon Kopete
Who knows?
00:45:09
fart souls
Yeah, Dimitri. So I'm looking at Google images of him. I hate this kid.
00:45:14
Devon Kopete
Yeah, dude.
00:45:15
fart souls
Like he's like he's like the kid that he's the kid that failed his Stranger Things audition and like they didn't go back to him.
00:45:15
Devon Kopete
Dimitri, you stink.
00:45:21
fart souls
Like he looks like he could be Mike or. um Like any of those kids, actually, any of the Stranger Things, but he just.
00:45:26
Devon Kopete
Yeah, yeah. Oh, wait. He's ah he's really dating Tori, right?
00:45:29
fart souls
ah
00:45:31
Devon Kopete
ah Sorry, sorry. Not him.
00:45:31
fart souls
No, Hawkins, Hawkins.
00:45:32
Devon Kopete
Hawkeez. Hawkeez.
00:45:34
fart souls
Yeah.
00:45:35
Devon Kopete
Dude, you just called his girlfriend. no Oh, yeah.
00:45:39
fart souls
Dude, look at look at it, though, like watch it.
00:45:41
Devon Kopete
I'm looking.
00:45:41
fart souls
I don't know, man. Maybe I'm just like an old man now and just.
00:45:43
Devon Kopete
Yeah, dude.
00:45:45
fart souls
I don't know, dude, I'm just like desensitized to it all.
00:45:49
Devon Kopete
Yeah, now I'm looking. I'm looking.
00:45:53
YOUNGSHELDONRING
All right, fellas. Well, that's everything.
00:45:54
Devon Kopete
I'm sorry.
00:45:55
fart souls
Yeah, now if you talking enough about Cobra Kai.
00:45:56
Devon Kopete
ah Yeah.
00:45:57
slimeballsteve
We saw slam dunk too.
00:45:59
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Oh, shit. That's right.
00:46:00
Devon Kopete
Yeah, man.
00:46:01
fart souls
Slam dunk.
00:46:01
YOUNGSHELDONRING
The first slam dunk.
00:46:04
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Yes, that movie was something.
00:46:06
fart souls
Is there going to be a sequel? I heard like the the original anime like ran a long time.
00:46:12
YOUNGSHELDONRING
I think there has to be, right? Because there's only one game. And that's like the best thing about it and the most infuriating thing, I feel like.
00:46:19
Devon Kopete
Right well Yeah, and like I don't know how because like I Mean I'm basing this off of fucking Google images right now, but like all of the original slam dunk like Visuals always they all focus on the redhead Was he the main Yeah, like I have no real clue I
00:46:20
slimeballsteve
um so
00:46:20
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Because you get to see the play, but it's like just that one game. That's fine. Oh. I didn't see him on the
00:46:39
YOUNGSHELDONRING
oh
00:46:39
fart souls
Yeah, I think he maybe he was like a ah ah bigger a beggar character in the anime originally. Higuchi or whatever. What's his name? Higuchi or something?
00:46:50
Devon Kopete
Yeah, I think you're good Yeah, yeah, wait Haman Sakuragi
00:46:50
YOUNGSHELDONRING
didn't see him on that the other teams, you know, like the new teams with the main characters.
00:46:59
YOUNGSHELDONRING
He fucked his back up, man.
00:47:00
fart souls
No, it's Hikaru.
00:47:01
Devon Kopete
Sakuragi So high school delinquent and gang leaders are unpopular, but he's there in the show originally.
00:47:01
fart souls
Hikaru.
00:47:08
Devon Kopete
It's him. He's like the red-headed kid Dude, I don't I
00:47:12
fart souls
Or is it Hanamichi?
00:47:14
Devon Kopete
um So it was 101 episode, basically only 101 episodes is really how you phrase that. Oh, only 101.
00:47:22
slimeballsteve
In the world, in the world of anime, that is a sneeze.
00:47:24
Devon Kopete
Yeah. Oh, this is like a mini series then. Okay.
00:47:27
YOUNGSHELDONRING
right
00:47:28
Devon Kopete
Um.
00:47:29
YOUNGSHELDONRING
I do like though that it's just the one game like really I mean it's infuriating because I want to watch more really that's the only reason but I do animation
00:47:33
Devon Kopete
Yeah.
00:47:36
slimeballsteve
You just want to watch a whole season.
00:47:39
fart souls
Maybe Awa, is it on Crunchyroll?
00:47:41
slimeballsteve
I think you can watch it on YouTube.
00:47:45
fart souls
ah like Oh, it's that old.
00:47:47
slimeballsteve
Yeah.
00:47:48
Devon Kopete
ah twenty
00:47:50
YOUNGSHELDONRING
incredibly unique and gorgeous and very fluid
00:47:53
fart souls
The final 10 minutes of the ah the movie was like breathtaking.
00:47:53
Devon Kopete
Yeah, okay Yeah Okay, so the the film follows so this the film the film follows Ryota Miyagi the point.
00:47:58
YOUNGSHELDONRING
yeah
00:47:58
fart souls
like It was crazy. It was insane.
00:48:06
fart souls
Ryota.
00:48:08
Devon Kopete
Yeah, Ryota Miyagi the point guard of the basketball team ah He had a brother Shota ryota and his teammates sakuragi uh kagi mitsu and kiede kaide kiede so so yeah you're right though he's not the main character but it seems like he is the main character the redhead is the main character in the ah because again like there's a there's like a fucking flashback remember we're like yo who says like he was like this badass gang leader with like a fucking
00:48:21
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Yeah it was, yeah.
00:48:25
fart souls
kind
00:48:33
slimeballsteve
Oh, I want to watch episode two.
00:48:43
Devon Kopete
a ah what should we call it like that cool hair yeah in the long hair sex based Andy now the other yeah that's the way in the pompadour arm but like it's just weird with the movie doesn't focus on make me a focus is on them but like not really yeah
00:48:45
slimeballsteve
like Long hair. Yeah.
00:48:48
fart souls
What the Kobe got Kobe got oh No, he had like the pompadour. He had pompadour either great
00:48:58
YOUNGSHELDONRING
So this guy's like LeBron, like he'd play with this court group in high school, but he's better.
00:49:08
slimeballsteve
I'm curious if this is a, I'm curious if this is a movie that is like better if you've watched or have like any like understanding of like the original series.
00:49:08
fart souls
I think that's cool. I think that's cool, though, that they took a like a different angle than the original.
00:49:11
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Yeah, me too.
00:49:17
Devon Kopete
dude It's probably so much better if we knew if we knew these characters Yeah, no it definitely is Yeah, great example Steve's
00:49:25
slimeballsteve
This is like if we watched the first purge before watching the purge.
00:49:33
YOUNGSHELDONRING
yeah no man if i get agree with that
00:49:37
slimeballsteve
Cause we don't know what the purge is in our heads. We're just like, Oh, some sort of weird government mandate.
00:49:40
fart souls
Okay.
00:49:41
Devon Kopete
like, you know, it's like it's like watching the forever purge Not seeing the first purge
00:49:47
YOUNGSHELDONRING
so
00:49:48
Devon Kopete
like I guess.
00:49:48
slimeballsteve
That's like watching quiet things day one before you watch quiet things.
00:49:52
Devon Kopete
OK.
00:49:53
YOUNGSHELDONRING
There's so many different franchises we can do that with because they're all prequels now
00:49:54
Devon Kopete
Close enough.
00:49:57
Devon Kopete
Here. Yeah, ah yeah ah so no, but that movie fucking ruled.
00:50:00
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Well.
00:50:03
YOUNGSHELDONRING
yeah
00:50:04
Devon Kopete
We saw that after we had a post birthday, a post-Kris Kalani birthday movie.
00:50:09
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Hey, perfect end to a perfect birthday.
00:50:10
slimeballsteve
hu
00:50:12
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Thank you for showing up, fellas.
00:50:14
Devon Kopete
Welcome.
00:50:14
slimeballsteve
Thank you for inviting us out and having a delicious meal.
00:50:16
YOUNGSHELDONRING
It was great. Uh, love my food. I love, I love the friends. I love my basketball animates. Um, I want to see another one. Make more. Japan. The hell that works.
00:50:31
Devon Kopete
Yeah, uh, listen when the uh, no the noepo, uh movie comes out just called jake paul the anime story You
00:50:39
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Oh

Terry Gilliam's Unique Films

00:50:40
YOUNGSHELDONRING
no, don't do that.
00:50:41
Devon Kopete
watch that boxing anime.
00:50:42
Devon Kopete
It's gonna be real good hello Six months
00:50:45
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Alright guys, well, we're gonna jump into the Galanian Chill that i that I formulated over the course of what has it been? Three, four months? Six months? Six months now?
00:50:55
Devon Kopete
Wait a but you had a lot to watch.
00:50:58
YOUNGSHELDONRING
I had a lot on my plate and had some issues. You know, new life stuff, got a new job, all that stuff. But also, Um, which is also part of the bad news. I couldn't find a lot of these movies. Um, I had a hard time. And basically anything beyond 19, the 1990s, I didn't get a chance to watch again. Um, I've seen most of Terry Gillen's movies. The only ones I haven't seen, uh, were Tideland and Who Killed Don Quixote. But I didn't get to do a rewatch and, uh, I'm sorry.
00:51:29
Devon Kopete
Mmm
00:51:33
YOUNGSHELDONRING
That really sucks. I, I. I planned it ahead and I remember Criterion had like the majority of the Terry Gillan movies on there for like about four months ago. And then they just got rid of them all.
00:51:46
Devon Kopete
Ah
00:51:47
YOUNGSHELDONRING
It really, really fucked me over. And now they're like nowhere to be found unless you want to pay for them. So I don't have that kind of money. And I only was able to watch eight of the 13 of the Terry Gillan movies for this Kalani and Chill. But I'm perfectly honest with you. everything passed the 90s and Terry Gillum's careers. This is not very good.
00:52:10
Devon Kopete
Whoa,
00:52:10
YOUNGSHELDONRING
I've seen them. They're not great. Like he really, I think Terry Gillum shines from the 70s to the 90s.
00:52:16
Devon Kopete
I've never heard of this movie. The movie hasn't ruined many parties I've been to.
00:52:20
YOUNGSHELDONRING
He just makes, I think some of the greatest films I've ever seen. And the first film on our list tonight is Monty Python and the quest for the holy grail.
00:52:31
Devon Kopete
whoa i've never heard of this movie movie hasn't ruined many parties i've been to with some fucking dork who won't shut the fuck up because he knows every line of this movie.
00:52:42
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Well, the dorks think that this is a 96% on Rotten Tomatoes with an audience score of 95%.
00:52:48
fart souls
The nerds.
00:52:49
Devon Kopete
I mean, it is good. It is actually.
00:52:52
YOUNGSHELDONRING
It is not only loved by critics, but by the audience, audiences as well. And, you know, I grew up watching this fucking movie. I think I've seen it like a hundred times. My dad was a huge Money Python fan, so I got a chance to watch all of them. I was a kid and I personally as a child loved the Holy Grail. I thought it was the best, the best of them all. And I don't think that has changed.
00:53:18
Devon Kopete
Okay.
00:53:19
YOUNGSHELDONRING
I think I like meaning of life and life of Brian quite a bit, but I feel like Holy Grail is like the, the, the movie, the big movie that they made.
00:53:30
slimeballsteve
Mmhmm.
00:53:31
YOUNGSHELDONRING
I, you know, I think they're all funny. And this one is no different. I think it's hilarious. I think that entire music musical montage of Camelot is still made me laugh.
00:53:43
fart souls
I love that shit.
00:53:44
YOUNGSHELDONRING
It's fucking so funny. And the fact that they're singing and destroying everything in the room, like, ah, it's just great, man. um Yeah, everything about and like the the more adult themed jokes that I didn't get when I was a kid. obviously ring a lot more true now with the nuns about how they want to be spanked, all of them.
00:54:06
Devon Kopete
Yeah.
00:54:07
YOUNGSHELDONRING
yeah And like now I was like, that's hilarious and really fun. I still think it works too. I don't think it's too dated. I think the funny parts work because they're kind of just, it's all satire of like medieval films. Shit, they're more popular now than and a long time. And it works, works really well. um Though I do think this movie was written and directed by the money pythons like all of them I do think this is where Terry Gillum kind of learned how to make a movie because he said He never directed a movie before this and he said this was a total learning experience working on and money Python and the Holy Grail and They didn't have a lot of money.
00:54:34
slimeballsteve
Mm hmm.
00:54:50
YOUNGSHELDONRING
The budget was relatively small about 280,000 pounds
00:54:52
fart souls
you
00:54:56
YOUNGSHELDONRING
But the film was financed by Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Jethro Tull, their co-producer, Michael White, a cricket team named The Heartaches, and three record companies. And the only reason the rock stars considered financing it was because it was a write-off for them. Because in England, there's like a 90% tax. They were able to write this off completely and make money all of it. Which is funny. and You know, it gets true to life in a lot of ways. um Terry Gillum constructed the rabbit of Cornerbog. He made the puppet. He did all the puppeteering for it. Kind of wrote that entire sequence. That was all him. The evil rabbit that they end up killing. Graham Chapman, who was King Arthur in this film, was regularly drunk, basically when they were shooting all the Money Python stuff.
00:55:54
YOUNGSHELDONRING
And he would forget his lines all the time, so they made him sober up for this movie, ah basically just withholding alcohol from him. And he got he got sober after it, but I think he relapsed.
00:56:09
Devon Kopete
iconic
00:56:09
YOUNGSHELDONRING
The small budget led to them using coconuts and instead of horses, of course. I think that's like one of the more iconic things about the movie.
00:56:16
Devon Kopete
yeah
00:56:19
YOUNGSHELDONRING
But they really just couldn't afford horses or people to train them. so Coconuts are way funnier. um And it led to basically an entire sequence of the movie. Two of the funniest jokes in the film come from the fact that there are coconuts in the movie. The German title of this movie was Knights of the Coconut.
00:56:39
Devon Kopete
Heh
00:56:39
slimeballsteve
That's pretty good.
00:56:40
YOUNGSHELDONRING
That's pretty good. The Pythons were dismayed to find out that the CBS, the company they were going to distribute it to in America, to show on television, they made significant cuts to the movie. um Mostly for time, which is really shitty. And they ended up pulling the the film rights from CBS and broadcasted it on PBS in America.
00:57:05
Devon Kopete
heh.
00:57:07
YOUNGSHELDONRING
which is the Public Broadcasting Service and everybody got to see it. It was actually I think the reason why it was so popular because I know my dad said he saw it on PBS and then went to go see it in the theaters because they would bring it back all the time. So it just created more buzz and people wanted to see it more. It's more a move on their part because the movie made $5.5 million dollars and that's a lot of money for 1975.
00:57:30
Devon Kopete
Okay.
00:57:31
YOUNGSHELDONRING
So um yeah, it's it's cool that this was so successful and so
00:57:35
Devon Kopete
I'm going to
00:57:38
YOUNGSHELDONRING
so critically adored and that being like kind of his first movie too.
00:57:39
Devon Kopete
start off with a little bit more. I'm going to start with a little bit more.
00:57:44
YOUNGSHELDONRING
But you can already tell there's a theme I'm kind of building up here where production companies routinely try to fuck Terry Gillum in the ass.
00:57:51
slimeballsteve
Mmm.
00:57:52
YOUNGSHELDONRING
And he's always like scrambling to fix their mistakes to his movie. um There are a few here that I feel like he had complete control over, but it's more likely than not that He had to fight for whatever funding he got. But Mighty Pythons, guys, classic movie, 92 minutes, beautiful comedy. you know We've all seen it.
00:58:15
Devon Kopete
you
00:58:16
YOUNGSHELDONRING
It's super popular. And it's a great flick.
00:58:19
slimeballsteve
Yeah, apparently I was watching a video about how since it's basically just like a bunch of like, you know, loosely connected non sequitur skits in like fantasy settings, that there is basically a lost version of this movie with a whole series of skits that have just were thrown to the cutting room floor.
00:58:39
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Are you serious?
00:58:40
slimeballsteve
Yeah.
00:58:40
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Wow. So there's like another 30 or 40 minutes of just funny shit that they were like, it doesn't fit the plot that they're trying.
00:58:41
Devon Kopete
Yeah.
00:58:46
slimeballsteve
Yeah, just stuff that they're just like, not as funny as the other stuff.
00:58:50
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Oh, that's fascinating.
00:58:53
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Because, you know, I'm so used to seeing this in its, you know, condensed form, 90 minutes. And I know Terry Gillum goes a little long with his movies, so I can only imagine what that was like. I don't know if that cut existing. I can't find that anywhere. I wish that existed somewhere, but they probably just threw out the film ah They all get arrested in the end because they historian died It's
00:58:53
slimeballsteve
o
00:59:14
slimeballsteve
They probably did, yeah, they probably were just like, Mmm, we're good. Well, let's end on this big police scene.
00:59:21
Devon Kopete
Hehehe.
00:59:21
slimeballsteve
I still love that. I love that.
00:59:28
slimeballsteve
Yeah. yeah
00:59:32
YOUNGSHELDONRING
like Harold God damn this movie's funny Yeah, I know it's very loose It was joke over plot jokes over plot man
00:59:37
slimeballsteve
Like some of the fun stuff that like this movie I think is just kind of like forgotten is like how weird it is with just being a movie. Like they're like, all right, we're gonna do this weird introduction where it's gonna be like the people getting sacked for doing the credits. So we have to redo the credits and it's just insanity. And I think that, yeah. And like at the time, like, you know, I don't think it, that had been done before.
01:00:08
slimeballsteve
So.
01:00:09
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Not to that extent. And I think people were kind of expecting it too, because it's Money Pythons.
01:00:13
slimeballsteve
Right.
01:00:13
YOUNGSHELDONRING
They were going to do something that was incongruent and kind of all over the place, but eventually gets to the point. um I do think this is the most cohesive.
01:00:22
Devon Kopete
you.
01:00:23
YOUNGSHELDONRING
I think, like, a Brian might be a little more cohesive than this, but even that is just like a collection of skits.
01:00:26
slimeballsteve
Yeah.
01:00:30
slimeballsteve
yeah
01:00:32
YOUNGSHELDONRING
I think this is the best Money Python movie. I really do. So that moves on to Technically Terry Gillum's second film which is Jabberwocky Jabberwocky I have actually never seen before this is the first time I've ever seen it and it's a criterion film They saved this one. It was produced by or distributed by George Harrison's production company handmade films. So he's the one that got this out in the theaters.
01:01:07
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Okay. It's I think it's one of the weaker Terry Gillan films, written and directed by him. This was two years after The Holy Grail since 1977. It costs 587 pounds to make, 587,000 pounds to make.
01:01:19
Devon Kopete
you
01:01:25
YOUNGSHELDONRING
And it only grossed 480,000 pounds. So it was kind of a failure. It also had the Rotten Tomatoes score of 45 and an audience score of 47. and a runtime of 106 minutes. Now the name, the title is stolen, or not stolen, but adapted from ah the nonsense poem, Jabberwocky, which was written by Lewis Carroll.
01:01:46
Devon Kopete
Yes.
01:01:52
YOUNGSHELDONRING
And it's also the monster, the Jabberwocky in the film is based exactly off the 19th century illustration that was done for the poem.
01:02:01
slimeballsteve
That's cool
01:02:01
YOUNGSHELDONRING
And they fucking nailed it. It looks exactly like that in the movie. um Yeah, this movie's funny, like it's definitely funny because it's like there's three things I could think of. This is what Terry Gillum basically said. This is what the movie's about in ah in a commentary. He said there are three themes that are present and that's commerce, which is basically like the entire film. The main character is a a copper and what those guys were, or he was the son of a copper, is somebody that makes barrels for a living, like to store things.
01:02:36
slimeballsteve
Hmm.
01:02:37
YOUNGSHELDONRING
And he tries to streamline the business and make barrels like that don't work 100% well, but they're cheap to make and they could use them. And his father kicks him out of the house for it.
01:02:45
Devon Kopete
Thank you.
01:02:48
YOUNGSHELDONRING
I am a copper. This is a proud profession. And he, the main character, how I could describe him as somebody who like wants to be a normal guy, like doesn't want an extravagant life. Like he wants to be a copper. He wants to sell barrels and marry this fat woman who hates him from his village and just be like normal. But like the whole movie, he's just absolutely falling into like success and being like a hero. And he doesn't want it. Like he's actively like, this is not my type of happiness.
01:03:22
YOUNGSHELDONRING
somebody else's. The other thing is there's this this he describes as a creaking old bureaucracy because the whole movie not only are the merchants doing well but like the church and the king like the people are much more subservient to them because there's this giant monster outside the village keeping them in line. And like the bishop, who's this really old man, he's like, attendance is never a bit higher! And he's like getting paid, he's like wearing gold and And when they choose they choose the hero, Dennis, to go kill the Jabberwocky, he's not interested at all.
01:03:51
slimeballsteve
Mm.
01:04:00
YOUNGSHELDONRING
like He just flicks holy water on his face, and he's like, get out of here.
01:04:06
YOUNGSHELDONRING
It kind of like killing this monster ends their livelihood their culture. Yeah, it's just, it's a funny movie. I get the general points of it, but it is very raw. It's very loose. And, um, it's not quite Terry Gillam yet. You know, like he's, you could see him start his, his weird wide angle lenses and strange camera angles. Like all that stuff's present, but it's not a hundred percent there. Um, it's a good movie though. I enjoyed it. Um, the next film.
01:04:43
YOUNGSHELDONRING
of course, is a very popular movie and very divisive film for some. That's Time Bandits.
01:04:52
Devon Kopete
time band stinks thank you now I just yeah I don't know like I could never ever get into this movie
01:04:54
slimeballsteve
Oh, what?
01:04:54
YOUNGSHELDONRING
evan and
01:04:58
YOUNGSHELDONRING
I disagree. I think um there are things about it I don't like, I will say. I think It has that Robert Altman, everybody talking over themselves thing. and i Man, I don't like that. That always just annoys me in movies.
01:05:22
Devon Kopete
Um, you know, we have a lot of students here.
01:05:22
YOUNGSHELDONRING
um That being said though, I think for what it's trying to do, create that childlike perspective on basically absolute madness and and fantasy.
01:05:26
Devon Kopete
We have a lot of students here. We have a lot of students here. We have a lot of students here.
01:05:35
YOUNGSHELDONRING
I think it it succeeds in that regard.
01:05:35
Devon Kopete
We have a lot of students here.
01:05:37
YOUNGSHELDONRING
I think there are a lot of aspects of it that I love quite a bit.
01:05:38
Devon Kopete
We have a lot of students here. We have a lot of students here. We have a lot of students here.
01:05:41
YOUNGSHELDONRING
um I love evil.
01:05:42
Devon Kopete
We have a lot of students here. We have a lot of students here.
01:05:43
YOUNGSHELDONRING
I love that whole concept that there is a character named Evil and he's the bad guy.
01:05:43
Devon Kopete
We have a lot of students here. We have a lot of students here. We have a lot of students here.
01:05:49
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Like it's very satirical. It's very, you know, making fun of a lot of fantasy books. And it's also childishly simplistic, which I think is the whole point of the movie.
01:06:02
slimeballsteve
Mm
01:06:03
YOUNGSHELDONRING
And I also think I think that's why maybe it turns you off a little bit because I feel like the movie itself, it's very childish and immature and loose like the other three movies, the other two movies that we're talking about.
01:06:17
Devon Kopete
Thank you very much.
01:06:18
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Well, being said, though, I really like the performances. Sean Connery is John Cleese is great.
01:06:22
slimeballsteve
hmm.
01:06:23
YOUNGSHELDONRING
He's Robin Hood. um They really bring you back to that time period, whether it's, you know, Sherwood Forest or Ancient Greece or, you know, wherever they're traveling to, it's always an adventure. And that's the best parts of this movie when it's being adventurous.
01:06:43
Devon Kopete
This is where I'm going.
01:06:43
YOUNGSHELDONRING
So it was directed by Terry Gillam. It was written by Terry Gillam and Michael Palin, another member of the Money Pythons, as a Rotten Tomatoes score of 91% and an audience score of 77%.
01:06:46
Devon Kopete
This is where I'm going.
01:06:55
YOUNGSHELDONRING
A budget of $5 million and a box office of $42.4 million, which is
01:06:57
Devon Kopete
Okay,
01:07:01
YOUNGSHELDONRING
pretty successful ah for a movie in 1981. it um It's not my favorite of the imagination trilogy, which is this is considered the first entry of. um And obviously this is about a child's imagination. and And as the imagination trilogy progresses, it sort of progresses with the age of the character as well.
01:07:26
Devon Kopete
thank you.
01:07:29
YOUNGSHELDONRING
And that's kind of fun to watch. um But this film is the first.
01:07:33
Devon Kopete
the
01:07:33
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Sean Connery was cast on a golf course for this movie. It's pretty funny. He's just like, I don't care. he got and There's midgets. Sure. Put me in a movie. That's what I imagine he's like. The film is primarily shot in low angles to emulate the perception of a child. So everything's looking up, looking up at whatever's going on, which is cool. That's really neat. um This was also distributed by Handmade Films, George Harrison's production company. Gillam was asked by his producer many times to change the ending, but he refused.
01:08:02
Devon Kopete
the
01:08:07
YOUNGSHELDONRING
That ending is, I think, the most divisive part of the movie, too.
01:08:13
YOUNGSHELDONRING
I don't know if you guys... I didn't... Steve, you saw Time Bandits, then we saw it.
01:08:17
Devon Kopete
Yeah.
01:08:18
YOUNGSHELDONRING
The end of that movie with his parents exploding.
01:08:23
YOUNGSHELDONRING
When you say it, like I was waiting to talk about this because you just say it. It's like it's not that bad when you say it out loud. It's kind of funny.
01:08:31
slimeballsteve
yeah It feels like that's like he was like, that's the punchline of my movie.
01:08:36
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Yes!
01:08:37
slimeballsteve
Mm hmm.
01:08:38
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Definitely, Steve, because the end of that movie, if you guys remember the credits, it's just laughter. Is somebody laughing?
01:08:47
slimeballsteve
That reminds me of like a Ghoulstock vid that we we did.
01:08:51
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Oh, that's like where I'm like, oh, I totally get this guy.
01:08:54
slimeballsteve
Zach kills everyone's parents.
01:08:54
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Like I get what you're doing here.
01:08:59
YOUNGSHELDONRING
That's something that we would do, right? um Yeah, it's like needlessly dark and and just just such a kick in the pants for that kid too.
01:09:08
Devon Kopete
Okay.
01:09:08
slimeballsteve
Yeah.
01:09:08
YOUNGSHELDONRING
But at the very end, you know, you see the the the grand architect, the god figure in this movie roll up the big map because that was all part of the plan.
01:09:09
Devon Kopete
Okay.
01:09:17
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Even though the plan is awful, it's part of the plan. And also that's what this movie is about. There's that fatedness to everything. Nothing is nothing. You have no free will. Everything is fated to happen because there's a, there's a God controlling everything and he needs evil.
01:09:30
Devon Kopete
Yeah.
01:09:34
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Evil is important. Right. So yeah,

Themes of Romantic Delusion and 'Brazil'

01:09:37
YOUNGSHELDONRING
I think it's just about the system that the kid is in, you know, it's, it's a cycle and he, it's just the way it is.
01:09:41
Devon Kopete
Thank you.
01:09:45
YOUNGSHELDONRING
It's dark and scary and it's life. So there's some, there's some big questions being proposed at the end. And I also think it's kind of funny, you know, like it's just stupid.
01:09:53
Devon Kopete
the
01:09:56
slimeballsteve
a movie with multiple endings that tackle systems. It's a good thing. Terry Gilliam would never, uh, tackle the subjects again in a film, Chris.
01:10:04
YOUNGSHELDONRING
what's this Well, I'll tell you this, there's, there's the, but I think the defining theme on all of these is something I wrote down. It's something I noticed. You have to be a little delusional to be a romantic.
01:10:18
slimeballsteve
Hmm.
01:10:18
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Like you can't live in the world that currently exists in without being, and be romantic without being a little crazy because the world is not built for romantics, you know, and, and Terry Gillam's world, it's built for reason, pragmatism, coldness, no, there's no life, there's no bevy or there's no, there's nothing to it.
01:10:22
Devon Kopete
fifth
01:10:43
YOUNGSHELDONRING
There's just the cold logical fact. no No, nothing else. And you have all these characters desperately trying to fight against that. And that brings me to, oh wait, I have a few more things to say, I almost forgot. Gilman was asked by his producer to change the script. This is listed in Empire Magazine as the 22nd greatest children's film ever made. um Empire, of course, is ah is a British magazine, so they're a little biased.
01:11:13
slimeballsteve
They're biased, but you know what? Monster Squad number one, baby.
01:11:15
YOUNGSHELDONRING
It's pretty up.
01:11:16
slimeballsteve
They nailed it.
01:11:17
YOUNGSHELDONRING
<unk> is the ah Dylan wrote a script for Time Bandits 2 in 1996. Unfortunately, too many of the cast died.
01:11:26
slimeballsteve
Oh my god!
01:11:27
YOUNGSHELDONRING
ah Yeah, that's kind of sad.
01:11:33
Devon Kopete
did they explode like his parents did end of the film
01:11:38
YOUNGSHELDONRING
But It blows up after they made it. um Yeah, i really I like this movie quite a bit. i What we're moving on to, the next film on this list is Brazil. And I will say, with it hasn't changed. This might be my favorite film ever made.
01:11:58
Devon Kopete
do they explode like his parents did
01:11:59
YOUNGSHELDONRING
That's a bold statement I know, but I've seen this multiple times throughout my whole life and it's still just astoundingly beautiful. And I love it. I love everything about it. It hits me in that weird dark comedy bone. I think it's the greatest dark comedy ever written. Um, I think so.
01:12:18
fart souls
Over Dr. Strangelove.
01:12:20
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Yeah. I think what this does with like 1984, like something so dour, like this dystopian society and makes it funny and light.
01:12:25
Devon Kopete
So I think it's an important reason to be able to do this.
01:12:26
fart souls
Right.
01:12:28
Devon Kopete
I think it's an important reason to be able to do this.
01:12:29
fart souls
Makes it funny, and makes it good, yeah.
01:12:30
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Dude.
01:12:30
Devon Kopete
I think it's an important reason to be able to do this.
01:12:30
fart souls
I mean, I feel i feel like that's Dr. Strangelove, too, a little bit of the time.
01:12:34
YOUNGSHELDONRING
It is, and I don't deny it, but like me personally, like this, it's also like but the sets in this movie are fucking gorgeous.
01:12:34
Devon Kopete
I think it's an important reason to be able to do this.
01:12:38
fart souls
Right, right, right, right, right.
01:12:38
Devon Kopete
I think it's an important reason to be able to do this. I think it's an important reason to be able to do this.
01:12:44
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Like the production design is, is if if I could give Terry Gillum an Academy Award for every movie, it would be for art design.
01:12:48
Devon Kopete
I think it's an important reason to be able to do this.
01:12:54
slimeballsteve
Oh, 1000%.
01:12:56
YOUNGSHELDONRING
It would be every year, every time he makes a movie, he would get an Academy Award for Art Design.
01:12:56
Devon Kopete
Okay.
01:13:01
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Because I feel like his sets, his props, everything that creates the world that they're in is so perfectly matched for the tone. And I think this movie does better than any of his other ones.
01:13:15
slimeballsteve
This is like one of those movies that just leaves you kind of like awestruck the entire time you're watching it.
01:13:17
Devon Kopete
Thank
01:13:20
slimeballsteve
And you have to like rewatch it because a lot of your first watch is you just like taking in all of like, just like that the size of the sets. Like, it feels like these are like just, the
01:13:31
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Yes, yes.
01:13:34
slimeballsteve
real places and there's they're not they're not they built these like this isn't like you know i'm sure there's a lot of like art and like matte paintings and stuff like that but it's just all like just masterfully crafted it um
01:13:39
Devon Kopete
you.
01:13:42
YOUNGSHELDONRING
yeah Yeah.
01:13:45
YOUNGSHELDONRING
And it's all, it's all perfectly integrated because like, yes, there are the map paintings. Yes, there are fake sets. There are miniatures, but like that scene where Tuttle, like.
01:13:54
Devon Kopete
.
01:13:55
YOUNGSHELDONRING
ziplines down that road into the city and it's just you look down in the city and it just looks like it goes on fucking forever.
01:13:56
Devon Kopete
Okay.
01:14:02
slimeballsteve
yeah
01:14:02
Devon Kopete
.
01:14:03
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Down like I don't like the way that was done was so masterful And it's like that image to me is what kind of sold the movie is being like one of my favorites about my favorite Because you feel so small in the in the world and that's perfect.
01:14:06
Devon Kopete
.
01:14:14
slimeballsteve
Yeah.
01:14:19
YOUNGSHELDONRING
That's such by design Because sam laurie our main character is the smallest human being alive in this world He's like nothing he's a speck
01:14:25
Devon Kopete
yeah
01:14:25
slimeballsteve
Right.
01:14:30
Devon Kopete
Okay.
01:14:30
YOUNGSHELDONRING
And ah he's just desperately, desperately just trying to be happy. Like that's all that he wants is just to find happiness. And the world is just constantly slapping him down over and over and over again to the point where he just fucking goes insane. He just breaks. And at the end, it's not, it's not, I don't look at that as a bad ending in that world.
01:14:52
Devon Kopete
Okay.
01:14:55
YOUNGSHELDONRING
That's the best you got, you know? And it also kind of feeds into the way I feel like now, like when I watch media and watch anything, like I i kind of want to escape because the world sucks.
01:15:11
Devon Kopete
Okay.
01:15:11
YOUNGSHELDONRING
It's not great. And a lot of the

Comparing 'Brazil' and 'Out of Africa'

01:15:14
YOUNGSHELDONRING
art that I love, always loved was escapism, escaping a into a world that kind of makes you not want to be in the world that you're currently in, not wanting to know about the politics and the Shitty human beings and all that other crap like escape might be your only choice sometimes Yeah, it's just that that's what this movie is about right is There's there's and it's like a masterpiece of ah of a director at that time that took like no qualms with doing what he wanted to do and
01:15:34
slimeballsteve
Yeah, this is this is his masterpiece. I like I don't think it's like any dancing around that like
01:15:39
Devon Kopete
Yeah, it doesn't. Yeah, you can.
01:15:52
slimeballsteve
Mm hmm.
01:15:53
YOUNGSHELDONRING
It really did not count down to anybody because this film, like the distribution of this movie was a mess.
01:16:00
Devon Kopete
th
01:16:02
YOUNGSHELDONRING
you
01:16:02
slimeballsteve
Yeah, like, you know, if you try to like watch this film, there are like five endings out there. um I remember that like for the longest time, it was hard to even like get your hands on Brazil.
01:16:13
Devon Kopete
th th
01:16:14
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Yeah, well, Sid Scheinberg, who was the the current CEO of Columbia, he's the same guy that cut up Blade Runner.
01:16:24
slimeballsteve
That makes sense. Another movie with five endings.
01:16:26
YOUNGSHELDONRING
yeah because he was like, oh, people don't like sad endings. So he was just cut and got the movie. I was happy.
01:16:33
Devon Kopete
So what's your definitive ending for?
01:16:36
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Oh, definitive ending is Sam Lowry going insane in that torture chair humming.
01:16:41
Devon Kopete
Yeah, that one, but it bums me out though.
01:16:45
slimeballsteve
And it just, it just leaves you on it too.
01:16:45
Devon Kopete
Like it makes that movie a hard watch. That movie, that movie makes that movie a rough watch.
01:16:51
YOUNGSHELDONRING
I guess
01:16:51
slimeballsteve
Dude, again, that's that that, in my head, him explaining that, him selling that movie, that's the punchline.
01:16:54
Devon Kopete
.
01:16:59
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Yeah, it is.
01:16:59
slimeballsteve
Yeah.
01:17:00
YOUNGSHELDONRING
but Like the the world is so awful. He just broke. And it's happy. Like it's a happy, it's to him. In that world, that is the happiest ending you can get, right?
01:17:09
slimeballsteve
And that song, that song throughout, at the end, it's just almost like mocking you.
01:17:14
YOUNGSHELDONRING
It's mocking you.
01:17:15
slimeballsteve
Mm-hmm.
01:17:15
YOUNGSHELDONRING
It's like, oh, this is what you have to do. You gotta go crazy. If the world is terrible, there's no recourse. Just lose your mind.
01:17:21
Devon Kopete
.
01:17:22
slimeballsteve
But also that song is a bop. That song is an absolute bop.
01:17:24
YOUNGSHELDONRING
It's a box.
01:17:25
Devon Kopete
Yeah, it's too much of a bop.
01:17:27
slimeballsteve
la la la la la la no no
01:17:27
Devon Kopete
It's an ear.
01:17:29
YOUNGSHELDONRING
And that's what you would be humming if you were stuck in a torture chair and your mind is broken like it's that's the only recourse you got Oh What a movie.
01:17:29
Devon Kopete
Yeah.
01:17:40
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Um Yeah, rob janeiro is great in this I just love him.
01:17:43
slimeballsteve
you
01:17:45
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Bob Hoskins is good in this
01:17:47
slimeballsteve
It is wild that you have a scene where Bob Hoskins and Robert De Niro are just in the same set. We're in the same set and it's like, that wasn't like, it probably is. Like the...
01:17:58
YOUNGSHELDONRING
I And it's not just him, like Sam Lowry, the actor that played him is fantastic.
01:18:02
slimeballsteve
Hmm?
01:18:04
YOUNGSHELDONRING
ah His boss, who is the, God, I can't remember his name, the Android from Alien, that actor, oh, Ian Holm, thank you, Ian.
01:18:11
Devon Kopete
In home ah You mean fucking og Bilbo Baggins?
01:18:13
slimeballsteve
Hmm.
01:18:17
YOUNGSHELDONRING
OG Bilbo, isn't this?
01:18:18
Devon Kopete
Og Bilbo, dude
01:18:20
YOUNGSHELDONRING
And he is so fucking good in this too, as somebody who's desperately doesn't wanna
01:18:23
slimeballsteve
Yeah.
01:18:26
YOUNGSHELDONRING
make a mistake because if he know if he does, like he could be murdered for it. That's the world they live in. ah god I love this fucking movie so goddamn much. um
01:18:39
slimeballsteve
If you haven't seen this movie, just go see it right now. like get Hands down.
01:18:41
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Yeah, it's...
01:18:42
Devon Kopete
Yeah, it's kind of one of those like it's I Feel like it's crazy if it's not in like most people's top like 50 Yeah, you seem Brazil
01:18:50
slimeballsteve
If you're listening to a movie podcast, you've probably already seen Brazil, but if you haven't, go see it because it is an important step in just cinematic languages and and showcasing just like an imagination on three.
01:19:03
YOUNGSHELDONRING
and ah
01:19:04
Devon Kopete
You know, even if you have, see it again.
01:19:04
YOUNGSHELDONRING
un
01:19:06
Devon Kopete
See it again.
01:19:06
YOUNGSHELDONRING
See it again and you know it's um uncompromising vision to somebody who's just like fuck that I'm making this the way I want to this is the way it's always been because he was trying to make this movie since 1979 and he couldn't get the funding for it.
01:19:07
slimeballsteve
Sure.
01:19:07
Devon Kopete
You do.
01:19:20
slimeballsteve
This is wild though. This is wild that this movie came out 10 years after his first movie.
01:19:27
YOUNGSHELDONRING
I know, that's the odd, crazy thing. Like he learned so fucking much in 10 years of making movies.
01:19:31
slimeballsteve
hu Like that's the, that's the thing.
01:19:32
YOUNGSHELDONRING
And to be honest, like, time ends. It's great. And it's, it is a classic to a lot of people, not me particularly, but it is. But coming from that off of Jabberwocky and that, like, where this where was this? is He's just thinking about this his whole life. my
01:19:45
Devon Kopete
and
01:19:46
slimeballsteve
Like, you know, uh, those two movies while being steps on the journey to make Brazil, like you definitely, he probably, he probably picked up things that like, you know, he was like, all right, well, you know what?
01:19:56
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Yeah, yeah.
01:19:58
slimeballsteve
That didn't work in time bandits. Let me try it again.
01:20:02
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Maybe he wasn't ready to make it either, you know, you're right.
01:20:04
slimeballsteve
yeah
01:20:05
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Like they he needed to learn more and become a, to become the the filmmaker he was meant to become. Yeah, I just think, it's just I can't talk enough about how great this is.
01:20:15
Devon Kopete
the
01:20:18
YOUNGSHELDONRING
It was very successful in Europe and not so much in America. And that was based on obviously the cut that was made by Sid Schreinberg. which led Terry Gillum to put out a full page ad in Variety magazine, basically saying, if you want to watch my movie, I have it. I'm going around the country with it.
01:20:34
Devon Kopete
fifth
01:20:36
YOUNGSHELDONRING
And he went to film critics. He went to film schools, showed off his version to everyone, and they gave him the American Critics Choice Award. Listen, this is the best

Discussing 'The Adventures of Baron Munchausen'

01:20:46
YOUNGSHELDONRING
film of that year, and nobody else saw it.
01:20:50
Devon Kopete
Did you imagine being like?
01:20:50
slimeballsteve
That's a shame.
01:20:53
Devon Kopete
You're like, OK, yeah, here it is. And then somebody just fucks your movie up.
01:20:57
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Dude, it's a fucking nightmare.
01:20:59
Devon Kopete
Like that would infuriate me, you know, and there's so many stories like that and I get it.
01:21:01
YOUNGSHELDONRING
It's a nightmare.
01:21:04
Devon Kopete
It's like somebody paid for it. Somebody's going to make that decision. But it's like, bro, dude, like, fuck you, man.
01:21:09
YOUNGSHELDONRING
And like, a $15 million dollars budget. I know, it's 1985. That's probably a good deal of money now. But like, it's kind of, that's low-ish considering the size and scope of the film.
01:21:20
Devon Kopete
yet still seems low obviously
01:21:22
slimeballsteve
Chris, best movie of 1985, this or out of Africa?
01:21:22
YOUNGSHELDONRING
And it only made $9 million.
01:21:28
YOUNGSHELDONRING
ah
01:21:32
YOUNGSHELDONRING
good
01:21:33
slimeballsteve
It's best. It was the best picture.
01:21:34
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Africa What I fucking hate that movie so ah Yeah, it's it was also ah the original title of this film was 1984 and a half but But then Terry Gillis said that he never read 19
01:21:35
slimeballsteve
It won best picture that year.
01:21:50
Devon Kopete
it's not really
01:21:51
slimeballsteve
That's fun.
01:21:58
YOUNGSHELDONRING
It's basically even better.
01:22:01
Devon Kopete
he's like this is probably a breaks too far even for me
01:22:02
slimeballsteve
Wait, how then?
01:22:05
YOUNGSHELDONRING
I know, right?
01:22:05
slimeballsteve
Like, how could you? Okay.
01:22:07
YOUNGSHELDONRING
I don't know, man. He just like, I think he just figured it out. Like he was on the same wavelength and.
01:22:13
slimeballsteve
That is a very funny joke though, if like you were being interviewed to say.
01:22:13
Devon Kopete
it's
01:22:16
YOUNGSHELDONRING
How do you read that bug, man?
01:22:17
Devon Kopete
not really
01:22:19
YOUNGSHELDONRING
the but
01:22:19
slimeballsteve
If you if you directed Brazil, you've definitely read and have seen imagery of 1984.
01:22:20
Devon Kopete
the fifth
01:22:23
Devon Kopete
Nothing, it's all luck. It's all happened
01:22:26
slimeballsteve
Well, to be fair, the year before is when the 1984 movie came out.
01:22:32
YOUNGSHELDONRING
It was 1984.
01:22:33
slimeballsteve
Mm hmm.
01:22:34
YOUNGSHELDONRING
It was perfect. I mean, this perfect movie was perfectly timed, too, because it was kind of making fun of 1984.
01:22:39
slimeballsteve
Yeah.
01:22:40
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Oh, like perfectly. But I don't think he was intending to do that. Like he thought he had this idea for a while. So.
01:22:46
slimeballsteve
Bro, he had this in his head since 1979.
01:22:49
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Yeah, this guy's great. um Terry Gillum's love for wide angle shots is on full display here. He used a 14 millimeter lens so much in this film that it is now referred to as the Gillom.
01:22:57
slimeballsteve
Mhm.
01:23:03
Devon Kopete
Oh, I get that.
01:23:03
slimeballsteve
That's fun. That's fun.
01:23:05
YOUNGSHELDONRING
So he's a very much, the wide angle shots are just every one of his movies, man. There's nothing wrong about him. And yeah, you know what they do, which I really love is they pull, they put the whole set, all but the props, everything in the focus. So you see everything that he put in the frame.
01:23:23
slimeballsteve
Mhm.
01:23:23
Devon Kopete
Okay.
01:23:24
YOUNGSHELDONRING
And it's all very complicated, and there's all these little moving parts and stuff. You could pause these movies and just look at shit all fucking day. Which is another reason why I love this guy so much. Like, he just fills the fucking scene, you know?
01:23:38
slimeballsteve
Yeah.
01:23:40
YOUNGSHELDONRING
um Yeah, due to Universal's butchering, he went on to pull off a full page in Variety. This has won multiple awards. It was only nominated for two Academy Awards, I believe. but it won Critics' Choice Awards and is listed as the 54th greatest British film of all time.
01:24:01
Devon Kopete
Let's see. What, uh, what won best picture in 1985?
01:24:05
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Out of Africa.
01:24:06
slimeballsteve
Who's out of Africa?
01:24:06
Devon Kopete
Oh, did it really? Okay.
01:24:07
slimeballsteve
Yeah.
01:24:08
Devon Kopete
Nevermind.
01:24:08
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Really sucks.
01:24:09
Devon Kopete
Well, I was too late to that joke. Sorry. I'm not smart enough for films.
01:24:15
YOUNGSHELDONRING
ah Well, don't see out of Africa, do see Brazil is what I would say to any
01:24:19
Devon Kopete
Yeah. god What a fat. Yeah. You know what movie I've heard of? Brazil movie. I never heard of before out of Africa.
01:24:28
slimeballsteve
Thank
01:24:28
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Bill, right? Fucking lame-ass bullshit. Anyway, I could talk about Brazil all fucking day, about the themes of of isolation and overwhelming relentlessness of a fascist society, blah blah blah, go on all day.
01:24:37
slimeballsteve
you.
01:24:40
Devon Kopete
Thank
01:24:46
YOUNGSHELDONRING
It's a beautiful movie. And just go see it. So it's lovely, beautiful, favorite film.
01:24:49
Devon Kopete
you.
01:24:52
YOUNGSHELDONRING
And that moves us on to the third film in the Imagination trilogy. And that movie, of course, is The Adventures of Baron Munchalzen. The one that's, I think, the least known in the trilogy is this film. And, you know, I went into this because I watched it before, thinking I really wasn't going to like it, because I didn't like it the first time I saw it. But man, I i think I missed something in that first time, because this one really had me laughing.
01:25:23
YOUNGSHELDONRING
and It's incredibly silly and incredibly loose in all over the place, like most Terry Gillan movies outside of like Brazil. um That's I think the only knock I have on this movie. And I do think it does affect it quite a bit. I think the pacing is an issue in this film because I feel like it's so loose. But the main concept and the idea behind it is so unique and funny and the end is perfect
01:25:54
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Baron Munchausen is basically a storied mythological man who, in the beginning of the movie, they're they're having a play about him. All the while, the Turks are bombarding France, just destroying it, and there's a war going on, but they're having this cute little play about Baron Munchausen. They kind of keep the kids' minds off the horrible bombing and murder. One of the funniest jokes in this movie, by the way, is the opening of the movie starts with the subtitle in front of the screen that says the age of reason. And you just have all these people just just sitting there and then all these canons start going off and everybody starts blowing up. So funny, man.
01:26:33
slimeballsteve
Dude, I am telling you, it's just literally him and just another Monty Python member sitting down and just laughing their asses off as they write this stuff.
01:26:43
YOUNGSHELDONRING
It's all it's the inside jokes, right? Like, oh, these Fucking, like, this is what I've been saying for years. This is so true. ah Yeah, there's a lot of just common themes there that Terry Guillaume always jokes about. And i I feel like with the first two movies, you have imagination used as an escape to get away from like a a shitty situation. I think in this scenario, the difference is that his imagination is used like a weapon. And it's Munchausen is kind of using it to
01:27:14
YOUNGSHELDONRING
to stop the Turks and the end of war. He uses his imagination to do so. And that's cool. that's like It's like the most victorious I've seen any of the characters in this trilogy is Munchausen. And he even dies at the end. He dies, but he's like, this is one of the several times that I've died. The whole movie, he's just him telling a story. This is an old man talking about how he met the king of the moon.
01:27:43
YOUNGSHELDONRING
got swallowed by a whale. like It's long tails told by an old con man that eventually just cheers everybody up enough where the war ends.
01:27:54
slimeballsteve
Yeah.
01:27:56
YOUNGSHELDONRING
but It's lovely. It's funny. It's, you know, it's not, I don't think it's as deep though as like Brazil wartime bandits, but I think it's fine. It's fine. And it works very well. um Rob Williams is hilarious in this too. He's the king of the moon. his head separates from his body the king of the moon because he hates his body because it's like it's like barbaric and all I want to do is fucking eat ah free said from it this really inventive cool ideas going on I think there are more good ideas than there is a great movie that's all um
01:28:39
YOUNGSHELDONRING
as a 90% or Rotten Tomatoes with an audience score of 82%. Uh, this movie had a budget of $46.6 million dollars and a box office gross of 8.1 million.
01:28:55
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Yeah, that's not good.
01:28:55
slimeballsteve
oh
01:28:57
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Um, the film went horribly, horribly over budget during production and the producer that they had that was working for them for Columbia, or I'm sorry, for universal, he got fired.
01:28:57
slimeballsteve
Oh.
01:29:09
YOUNGSHELDONRING
midway through production. So basically the new person that took over is like, what the fuck is this? $46 million. dollars
01:29:18
slimeballsteve
Oh my God.
01:29:20
YOUNGSHELDONRING
ah God damn mind. And he was like, oh, like Terry Gillam was trying to like, trying to convince her like, this isn't this producer's movie. It's a Terry Gillam movie. And I think that made it worse because there was, there was a visual effects company that was hired.
01:29:32
slimeballsteve
No.
01:29:37
YOUNGSHELDONRING
And Gillum basically promised a bonus to them, which was all written out in the budget if they got all their work done within yeah the schedule. Well, they refused their bonuses and they were told that they weren't paid because they didn't want to so to be seen to be doing anything that would benefit Terry Gillum.
01:29:57
Devon Kopete
ah Jesus!
01:29:58
YOUNGSHELDONRING
I don't know, man. People hate this guy almost, I think for no reason, and it makes me very upset. But despite all of that despite it being a bomb It still was nominated for four Oscars art direction costume and design makeup visual effects it people knew it was good, but nobody wanted to go see it and I kind of think it was kind of fallout from what happened with Brazil, which is a shame um I think if this guy was given more chances by his production company, he wouldn't be as unsuccessful as
01:30:32
YOUNGSHELDONRING
um Yeah. So this was made

Exploring 'The Fisher King' and '12 Monkeys'

01:30:35
YOUNGSHELDONRING
in 1989. He keeps, I think about four years between each movie, which is really interesting. You know, always kind of keeps that going. Um, yeah, it makes for really just fascinating, well-made movies that time. Uh, of course, Baron von Munchausen was based on the life of Hieronymus, Carl Fedric, Freiherr von Munchausen, um, loosely. And despite all that, Rob Williams is uncredited for his roles, King of the Moon, because his agents didn't want Gillum pimping him out.
01:31:10
Devon Kopete
Pimping them out for what?
01:31:11
YOUNGSHELDONRING
God, they know. I know! For what?
01:31:13
Devon Kopete
so
01:31:14
YOUNGSHELDONRING
He's a movie! Promote him in the movie!
01:31:17
Devon Kopete
yeah Maybe he's an asshole though.
01:31:17
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Fuck! Hey, this everybody hates this guy. I swear to God. I don't know. I don't know. I really don't. i He makes really great movies. He seems like the people that make them want to make really great movies with him. I don't know. I don't know what's going on.
01:31:32
slimeballsteve
I mean, that's the thing. Like once he loses George Harrison, like what happened? Like, come on.
01:31:39
YOUNGSHELDONRING
This is bankroll. Poor George. Never got the respect he deserved. Anyway. Let's move on out of the imagination trilogy and into the first film of the 90s for Mr. Terry Gillum. And that's The Fisher King. ah The Fisher King. I got to rewatch that again. I quite like this movie. It's extremely romantic and heartbreaking at the same time.
01:32:06
Devon Kopete
Ha ha ha.
01:32:07
YOUNGSHELDONRING
I don't really like many romantic comedies, but this is definitely high up on my list.
01:32:14
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Rob Williams is fantastic. So basically the plot is Jeff Bridges plays a radio shock jock who basically convinces or implies a man to go into a nightclub and shoot a bunch of people with a shotgun because he says he's a loser and and all these yuppies that are out there are just wasting his life and he needs to go deal with them. That's what he says to this guy. And he goes to this bar, and he ends up shooting seven people to death with a shotgun.
01:32:47
YOUNGSHELDONRING
And one of those people who was shot was Ron Williams' character's wife. And he's sort of the co-main character of the movie, because the shock jock lost. See, this is the past, where if you were somebody that convinced somebody to sh-
01:33:04
fart souls
This doesn't sound like a romance, Chris. I just want to intervene a little bit.
01:33:08
Devon Kopete
How many twisters are in this movie how many tornadoes Yeah
01:33:11
fart souls
Oh my god.
01:33:13
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Well, I will say this.
01:33:14
fart souls
This is not love actually this doesn't sound like love, actually, Chris.
01:33:17
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Well, that's why I like it so much because, yeah, they do.
01:33:19
slimeballsteve
Did I kiss at the end?
01:33:21
fart souls
A dark romance?
01:33:22
YOUNGSHELDONRING
They do.
01:33:22
fart souls
Is that is that is that a genre?
01:33:24
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Kind of. I hope so. I love that.
01:33:27
fart souls
Good god.
01:33:28
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Well, the the thing is, though, the reason that this is different than now, where if you're a personality that in causes somebody to shoot up a school, you don't lose your job and all of your fame and money like Jeff Bridges did in this movie. No, you you end up going bankrupt, but you still have your show running and you're still making money off of it and hiding your money with your family members and still saying Sandy Hook was the hoax.
01:33:57
YOUNGSHELDONRING
No, that stuff went away. But this movie, the main character with the common decency to fail miserably after he did something like this, and it just shows you it's a different time, right? But the romantic side of this whole movie comes in the form of Robin Williams falling in love with a woman that he sees every day as a homeless man. And she's the shy, borderline autistic lady who, um let's just say she's the perfect fit for Rob Williams' level of goofiness throughout this movie. And they end up being just a really cute couple. But really, the scene that that I think makes this movie just something special is there's a scene in Grand Central Station where Rob Williams sees the love of his life walking through a crowd of people, a bustling crowd, all were going in various directions. And the moment he locks eyes with her, the people in Grand Central Station, I'm talking about 100, 200 people,
01:34:55
YOUNGSHELDONRING
I'll start ballroom dancing together. And it's just so beautiful and so cool. Done with so many extras. We shot in one night. Everything about it is like, it's one of the coolest things I've i've seen in a movie.
01:35:11
Devon Kopete
Yeah.
01:35:12
YOUNGSHELDONRING
It's so seamless too, because everybody's just bustling around and then like like a snap, they just join up together and start waltzing.
01:35:21
YOUNGSHELDONRING
It's just beautiful and it makes your heart feel good. And yeah, that's the romantic part of this movie. It's not necessarily like two people. See, there's two people falling in love, but like the world itself is romantic, you know? It's ah it's bigger than life. And it's all based in the delusion of a homeless man.
01:35:45
slimeballsteve
This is interesting because this is the first movie he directed that he didn't have a ah hand in writing in.
01:35:50
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Yeah, he didn't. This is the, yeah. And i it kind of, it shows, I feel like, I feel like some characterizations are a little stronger, especially in the romantic side, like the actual love scenes. I don't think he really has it in him to do those right. Like I feel like in Brazil, the only romantic part of that is him just chasing that girl down. And shes it's not really her that he's in love with in Brazil. It's the the thought of her, the fantasy of her.
01:36:16
slimeballsteve
Mm.
01:36:16
Devon Kopete
Yeah.
01:36:19
YOUNGSHELDONRING
But this movie, he's really in love with this woman. And I think that is where this other writer kind of came in. ah this new writer that he put in, who's Richard LaGravinisi. um Yeah, i I love this movie. It's earned five Oscar noms, best actor for rob Robin Williams, original screenplay, and it actually won for best supporting actress, Mercedes Rule, who plays Jeff Bridges' girlfriend after he fails miserably, ends up owning a video store. um And this would make
01:36:55
YOUNGSHELDONRING
The Fisher King, the only Oscar winning film of Gilliam's career.
01:37:01
Devon Kopete
Well, that's a shame.
01:37:03
YOUNGSHELDONRING
okay
01:37:04
YOUNGSHELDONRING
he said
01:37:04
Devon Kopete
That's ah that's a dang shame.
01:37:07
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Gilliam ended up changing the Grand Central Station himself. It was a different scene, but I mean, he added that little magic to it, man. It just makes it sing. It's beautiful.
01:37:18
Devon Kopete
You know, it's kind of interesting. I it's like totally off topic, but I watched an interesting video about how in the edit, ah Ferris Bueller's Day Off was like originally, like the original edit or cut of that movie, like was totally different. Like it was like almost backwards, like the the the whole layout of their day. And then in the edit, they basically switched everything. They're like, okay, the museum's gonna be the first part, ah the big, you know,
01:37:55
Devon Kopete
The ah parades go we're gonna end on that. You know, it's not really about Ferris. It's about his friend And all that stuff. So I don't know just like fascinating things to Yeah, it's it's just really interesting ah about how like how much you can really change a movie with just like moving a big scene around or multiple scenes around and
01:38:05
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Hey man, but you make you make a movie in the edit room, right? You make what how it's going to be.
01:38:20
YOUNGSHELDONRING
I feel like with this movie, you could easily cut out all the romantic parts if you were dumb enough.
01:38:25
Devon Kopete
Yeah. I mean, like, listen, like when you first explained to me, like, cause I've never seen this movie, right? And you're like, Oh, it's about this blah, blah, blah. And I was like, Oh, and you're like, Oh, but it's a romantic movie. And I'm like, what? Like where, where, where, um,
01:38:40
YOUNGSHELDONRING
the The skeleton of it is actually quite dark, but like the heart of it is the love, you know?
01:38:48
Devon Kopete
yeah.
01:38:48
YOUNGSHELDONRING
It's pretty evident in like Not only in Rob Williams' relationship with this woman, but in Jepperidge's relationship with a woman that he constantly is just like derating because he's slumming. He feels like he's slumming with her, which is really hard to watch.
01:39:02
Devon Kopete
Yeah.
01:39:04
YOUNGSHELDONRING
It's like sad for for Mercedes, rules character. Yeah, it's just, it's what trauma does to people and how it affects them and how they can come back from it. Like how you can kind of rise above it and be something more. um Yeah, I really like this movie quite a bit. I'm glad I rewatched it. It has 85% of Rotten Tomatoes with an audience score of 85%. A budget of $24 million, but a box office of $72.4 million.
01:39:36
YOUNGSHELDONRING
I mean, we made a good deal of money.
01:39:38
Devon Kopete
good
01:39:38
YOUNGSHELDONRING
And yeah, it is really good. It's good to see some
01:39:40
Devon Kopete
That Robin Williams effect, dude 12
01:39:43
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Yeah, dude that's huge and you're gonna see it with the next movie even more and that's 12 monkeys um because this movie costs 29 million to make and the box office was 168.8 million.
01:39:58
Devon Kopete
monkeys is interesting to me because I can never decide if I really like it or not It's
01:40:04
YOUNGSHELDONRING
I like it. I like it quite a bit.
01:40:06
Devon Kopete
I mean, I think I like it, but I'm like, should I love this? And I always just like don't quite get there. um
01:40:12
YOUNGSHELDONRING
I wouldn't say I love it, but I definitely like it quite a bit.
01:40:15
Devon Kopete
Yeah, it it's so interesting. And ah have you did you ever watch the the show?
01:40:19
YOUNGSHELDONRING
I watched a few episodes of it.
01:40:24
Devon Kopete
Yeah, I never gave a shot.
01:40:25
YOUNGSHELDONRING
I feel like it was less of a remake of La Jette and more of just like, oh, let's get into the cult stuff even more, which is like, I'm not going to say it's the least interesting part of the movie. But it's not what brings me to the movie. like The time traveling, weird post-apocalyptic shit is really what I i like about it so much.
01:40:42
Devon Kopete
Yeah.
01:40:48
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Not to mention, like again, the sets and the props and the costumes all look fucking awesome um in in the po in the future. like They look like they're wearing giant see-through trash bags when they're walking around with all these lights and shit inside.
01:40:57
Devon Kopete
Yeah.
01:41:02
YOUNGSHELDONRING
It just looks so complicated and cool. um ah Yeah, it's just there's like a great visual of scientists that are watching Bruce Wallace before he they send them into the past and they're all lined up in this row and there's all these like fucking doodads and shit behind their heads and in front of them. It just looks so cool.
01:41:22
Devon Kopete
Yeah.
01:41:23
YOUNGSHELDONRING
I fucking love it, man. um Yeah, i I'm also a huge fan of La Jette, so that's that's a cool flick. It's a short French experimental film. about time travel. It's basically the plot of Bruce Willis's character in this film. What happened?
01:41:40
slimeballsteve
It's just images. it's ah It's a short that's just like these black and white stills.
01:41:42
YOUNGSHELDONRING
It's just images.
01:41:45
slimeballsteve
and
01:41:46
YOUNGSHELDONRING
I think like the time traveling in that movie was he was just like a hammock or something if I remember correctly.
01:41:51
slimeballsteve
It's something like just like laying down with something or I forget.
01:41:55
YOUNGSHELDONRING
You know, some of your eyes too. I remember that.
01:41:57
slimeballsteve
It's been a while, but like, I just, I remember there being just like this, like, just, there's still images with like just this beautiful lighting where like all the faces, like the lighting makes them look like you can see the, like the skulls underneath their skin in some of the shots.
01:42:13
YOUNGSHELDONRING
especially in the in the future like all the future shots ah stark and like dark and shit and then like when he gets to the past kind of bright since the airport where he sees himself get shot to death as a child hmm don't you wish that could happen to you huh heavy
01:42:15
slimeballsteve
Yeah.
01:42:21
slimeballsteve
And you get sent to to the airport.
01:42:31
Devon Kopete
but Yeah, how cool would that be?
01:42:36
YOUNGSHELDONRING
um 12 Monkeys, ah a nominee for Best Supporting Actor, Brad Pitt, and Best Costumes. I think Brad Pitt and Bruce Willis are both good in this movie. I wouldn't say great, I would say good. I think Brad Pitt's overacting a teensy bit. I think Bruce Willis is underacting a teensy bit.
01:43:01
slimeballsteve
It never really like meets where it should be.
01:43:04
YOUNGSHELDONRING
No. No, no, and I I don't know because Terry Gillum wanted Nick Molti and Jeff Daniels as as well as I Think so too, I think so I think so Yeah, it would have made any of money
01:43:13
Devon Kopete
dude I'm not gonna lie that would have probably made it better Yeah, like it's lacking all the star power at that point, but still
01:43:23
slimeballsteve
Yeah, it feels it feels like they were like, we got these two big names we're going to put in your movie.
01:43:28
YOUNGSHELDONRING
i Yeah, and I get it and it looks like because this film came at budget and that schedule It's like one of the only Gillum movies where he like nailed everything as far as the producers are concerned So I feel like he knew he was kind of in the doghouse a little And he was trying to redeem himself You know and make something popular that people like And thats I get it to a degree, to a degree, I understand it. But in this scenario, he kind of built his own thing out of it and he made it his own.
01:44:01
YOUNGSHELDONRING
And he made it about environmentalism, you know, about like eco terrorists and shit.
01:44:02
slimeballsteve
Hmm. Hmm?
01:44:07
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Like he added a lot of layers to something that could have been just a stupid post-apocalyptic Bruce Willis movie. Um, and that's what makes it better than most of the movies, you know, that are, I think that are trying to do this.
01:44:23
slimeballsteve
It's weird

Reflecting on 'Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas'

01:44:24
slimeballsteve
cause it's like, yeah, it's, but it's based on like this, like very like kind of like, you know, it was kind of like an already farty little short film. And and it's, it's really clever.
01:44:31
YOUNGSHELDONRING
I think he made it palatable for a bigger audience, but I also think he didn't sacrifice anything.
01:44:35
slimeballsteve
It's a really clever way to go about it.
01:44:42
slimeballsteve
Yeah.
01:44:42
YOUNGSHELDONRING
He didn't pull any punches like it's still.
01:44:44
slimeballsteve
This could have been water world.
01:44:46
YOUNGSHELDONRING
This could have been Waterworld, and that's actually, it's funny you bring that up, because it was Waterworld's ballooning budget that kept the money from being processed for this film, for very long.
01:44:57
slimeballsteve
Oh, they failed at Waterworld. So they were like, nah, you can only have this much.
01:45:00
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Another Puzzle of Michael Atlantic movie, millions of dollars, they got they got scared. And at the end, I think he made a ah good prod project that could, some people could consider great, but I'm not one of those, I think it's good. It's a fine movie.
01:45:16
slimeballsteve
Yeah.
01:45:17
YOUNGSHELDONRING
I like the trilogy of imagination quite a bit more than 12 Monkeys, but it's good. And I like it as a legit remake. Sure, let's call it that.
01:45:30
slimeballsteve
it's It's fun to just be able to bring that little topic up, where it's like, you know this is a short film?
01:45:33
Devon Kopete
Bye.
01:45:33
YOUNGSHELDONRING
I know. I know nobody else saw, really.
01:45:37
slimeballsteve
Yeah, like whatever, like that's fun.
01:45:39
YOUNGSHELDONRING
um Despite a troubleshoot, yeah, Gil managed to stay on budget on schedule. Great. Good flick, very successful, nominee for Oscars, what more can you want, right? And then, the last movie of our on our docket tonight is Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, 1998.
01:46:01
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Now this movie has a 51% of Rotten Tomatoes, but an audience score of 89%. And I am firmly in the audience score on this one because I fucking love this movie.
01:46:10
slimeballsteve
Hmm.
01:46:13
YOUNGSHELDONRING
I love it like unabashedly.
01:46:13
slimeballsteve
Yeah.
01:46:15
YOUNGSHELDONRING
I think it's one of the best adaptations I've ever seen. This is exactly Hunter S. Thompson to a T. It's weird. It's off-putting. It's deeply, deeply surreal. And it just, it works for me so well. did brad I mean, um Johnny Depp and Benicio del Toro are fucking awesome in this movie.
01:46:37
slimeballsteve
Yeah. Oh my God. Yes.
01:46:39
YOUNGSHELDONRING
They nailed these characters. They're like almost incomprehensible at times, but it's just perfect.
01:46:45
slimeballsteve
If anyone understands the just insanity of a Hunter S.
01:46:45
YOUNGSHELDONRING
It fits the board.
01:46:50
slimeballsteve
Thompson, it is Terry Gilliam. like If you watch this movie and then try to watch Where the Buffalo Roam with Bill Murray, yeah, no, it's so wild like trying to like go into like that movie after seeing that and being like, oh, no, they they just didn't.
01:46:53
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Oh, yeah, he knew that, too.
01:47:00
YOUNGSHELDONRING
What sucks?
01:47:11
slimeballsteve
They just didn't. They tried, they just didn't.
01:47:12
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Yeah, there's no style. There's no like interesting camera movement at all. Like it's ba very flatly shot. Whereas this is like all over the place chaos and hilarious, by the way.
01:47:26
Devon Kopete
Okay, okay.
01:47:26
slimeballsteve
Yeah, oh, it's so funny. It is so ridiculous.
01:47:30
YOUNGSHELDONRING
The funniest scene in this is where he goes to that convention that's full of cops with a giant suitcase full of drugs.
01:47:36
slimeballsteve
Mm-hmm.
01:47:37
YOUNGSHELDONRING
And the one cop is like, habitual users of marijuana have to furiously jack off because they can't rape anybody. And he looks down and there's a cum stain on his pants and he's trying to like, he's like, I'm not like that.
01:47:57
YOUNGSHELDONRING
So funny. Oh God, what a movie. um Yeah, so del Toro gained 45 pounds for the role in nine weeks.
01:48:08
Devon Kopete
Oh my god.
01:48:08
YOUNGSHELDONRING
It's reportedly eating 16 donuts a day.
01:48:13
slimeballsteve
Dude, this is my del Toro. I'm sorry, Benicio. This is you in my head forever and I love it. I love you for it.
01:48:19
YOUNGSHELDONRING
He's such an animal in this movie too. It's great.
01:48:21
slimeballsteve
huh It is crazy to think that that man was still alive when they made this.
01:48:22
YOUNGSHELDONRING
um de moved into Hunter S. Thompson's basement for four months. Thompson shaved his head and gave him his clothes to wear in the movie.
01:48:37
YOUNGSHELDONRING
I know. And he really was adamant that Terry Gillum made this too. Like he didn't think there there was anybody else that could do this right. And he's absolutely right.
01:48:47
slimeballsteve
Mm hmm.
01:48:48
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Thompson nailed it. Because he was holding back the rights. for this and until they got Terry Gillum. So, good move on you, Thompson. Rest in peace, buddy. um Rhino Films attempted to take Gillum, Depp, and Del Toro off the project. Depp got Universal to distribute it, a new company, and locked Rhino Films off the set, which was the old production company. I was trying to make the movie.
01:49:13
slimeballsteve
Hell yeah.
01:49:14
YOUNGSHELDONRING
um Yeah, really cool stuff. ah um Almost like kind of guerrilla filmmaking in a way, too.
01:49:21
slimeballsteve
Gonzo filmmaking.
01:49:23
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Gonzo filmmaking indeed um Box office though 13.7 million with a budget of 18 million. So this movie did not make any money But who cares because it was great Absolutely Yeah
01:49:37
slimeballsteve
This is a movie that exists past its theatrical release. it's It's hard to sell that to audiences, like the mass public, especially in like 1998. That's the year of Blade Man. That's, come on, we don't want that. but i Oh, dude, I mean Spider-Man, I guess, yeah, never mind.
01:49:55
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Well, what about that Tony McGuire in the backseat where they're like ah creeping on him the whole time He runs out of there he runs out of the car, oh man, what a great movie so funny
01:50:02
slimeballsteve
Dude, this is in the MCU.
01:50:07
slimeballsteve
It's so good.
01:50:15
YOUNGSHELDONRING
And that is it guys, uh, for the Terry Gillum, the Galanian Chill. I, I really had a good time with this one then, uh, partially because I didn't watch any of the movies past 1998, which I think did myself a huge favor because I don't want to, but I can't find it.
01:50:21
Devon Kopete
Ha ha ha.
01:50:28
slimeballsteve
That's kind of a downfall.
01:50:30
Devon Kopete
You didn't want to see that Kyoto movie?
01:50:35
Devon Kopete
Yeah.
01:50:36
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Yeah.
01:50:36
slimeballsteve
The kyote film that ruined him.
01:50:38
YOUNGSHELDONRING
yeah Well, I, I kind of want to see it just for that, but like, uh yeah it's really hard to find and i've been having a hard time downloading these um movies i think i found a solution though so all's not lost uh for the next galani and chill um i don't know what that's going to be yet though so completely open to ideas as well so
01:51:00
Devon Kopete
ooh, okay, okay.
01:51:00
slimeballsteve
o
01:51:03
Devon Kopete
You know, after I heard there's a whole bunch of Transformers movies you haven't seen.
01:51:07
slimeballsteve
For August. Okay, what's in August? Is there something in August that's like a theme we could do?
01:51:15
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Why is it August? People just lay around because it's hot. This is the summer movies.
01:51:19
Devon Kopete
Yeah, it's it's hot as fuck, dude. What do you mean?
01:51:21
YOUNGSHELDONRING
All summer movies take place in July.
01:51:24
slimeballsteve
You're right. Yeah, July is like the go to. August is like we're, you know, it's summer's wrapping up and that's not really a theme that's touched on often.
01:51:35
YOUNGSHELDONRING
it like
01:51:35
Devon Kopete
ah Oh man your borderlands coming out make Chris watch all these video game movies bu la in borderland Alien movie The crow Dude you should you should watch all the crow movies No, but like you gotta watch the the the DVD ones This
01:51:39
slimeballsteve
Both of the lanes, you got to you got to watch all the border lanes.
01:51:44
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Only one.
01:51:48
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Oh, and we already did. Oh.
01:51:52
slimeballsteve
You could watch all the Crow movies.
01:51:57
YOUNGSHELDONRING
All right, you guys. Yeah, I know. Find them. I mean, that's really what it's that's like what it's all about here, man.
01:52:07
slimeballsteve
I'm typing in how many?
01:52:07
Devon Kopete
Yeah, the weirdest you don't want the weirdest things is a my sister like Would always watch the crow city of angels, which is like the third one I have no idea right, but I was like why it was like she owned like one DVD ever and it was that one.
01:52:16
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Mm-hmm. He's sexy.
01:52:24
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Who is the, who is the crow?
01:52:24
slimeballsteve
That's the second one, Devin.
01:52:26
Devon Kopete
Oh Fuck fuck me ah It was No
01:52:27
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Who is the crow?
01:52:31
YOUNGSHELDONRING
City of angels. Who is this?
01:52:35
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Vincent Perez? No, that's not right.
01:52:38
Devon Kopete
no
01:52:38
slimeballsteve
ah Starring Vincent Perez.
01:52:39
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Yeah, he's in it. Okay.
01:52:40
Devon Kopete
He's in it, but uh, let's see It's uh, you know Yeah, tom jane's in this movie the punishers in this movie
01:52:42
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Wow.
01:52:46
slimeballsteve
Vincent Perez as the crow. You're right.
01:52:48
YOUNGSHELDONRING
ther
01:52:48
slimeballsteve
You're right. Yeah.
01:52:52
slimeballsteve
ah The Crow City of Angels, written by David S. Goyer.
01:52:57
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Whoa never mind I can need to watch this I gotta go see that
01:52:59
fart souls
Oh, David S. Goder. Was that what you meant?
01:53:01
slimeballsteve
the The guy who wrote Blade.
01:53:02
fart souls
Because he's the goat.
01:53:06
slimeballsteve
So you got The Crow, The Crow City of Angels, The Crow Salvation, The Crow Wicked Prayer, and then August 23, 2024, The Crow.
01:53:17
Devon Kopete
o dear
01:53:17
fart souls
Just watch Spawn. Just watch the Spawn movie.
01:53:20
YOUNGSHELDONRING
I'll watch this show.
01:53:20
Devon Kopete
yeah Wait, isn't it King spawn? Is that official? You know about that?
01:53:24
fart souls
The new one, yeah.
01:53:25
Devon Kopete
Yeah.
01:53:25
fart souls
That's what I saw, yeah. I posted it.
01:53:26
YOUNGSHELDONRING
King of hell. King of hell.
01:53:28
fart souls
And I think. That makes me interested. Just the title alone.
01:53:32
YOUNGSHELDONRING
This is a good title. That's a good title.
01:53:34
fart souls
King spawn is a fucking that's tough.
01:53:34
slimeballsteve
Little scars guards the crow.
01:53:36
fart souls
That's why that goes hard, dude.
01:53:37
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Yeah, I agree.
01:53:38
fart souls
That's ah that's tough.
01:53:39
slimeballsteve
That's pretty enough.
01:53:39
fart souls
It's tough, Chris.
01:53:41
YOUNGSHELDONRING
I'm I'm I'm more in King spawn than I am in the crow remake.
01:53:41
fart souls
King spawn.
01:53:43
slimeballsteve
Bring those action figures back.
01:53:44
fart souls
I want to be king spawn.
01:53:47
YOUNGSHELDONRING
I'll tell you that.
01:53:48
slimeballsteve
Come on, dude. that What if they eat bullets in this one, man?
01:53:51
YOUNGSHELDONRING
yeah Well, somebody ate a bowl on set, you know What No, that's right veto if you don't You know, I get one veto every year
01:53:55
slimeballsteve
Oh! ah
01:53:59
Devon Kopete
yeah Yeah So, uh, I mean Chris You know what else is coming out in August? Fucking rebel moon Snyder cut I saw a trailer for that Damn it you would use it on that too
01:54:21
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Yeah, I'm not doing that.
01:54:22
Devon Kopete
hey oh shit
01:54:24
YOUNGSHELDONRING
I'm a how much longer is that going to be? I already saw.
01:54:27
Devon Kopete
Well, no, I mean this it's a it's the first movie but he oh How much like actually did you know it's crazy is this fucking dude was like this is the movie I always wanted to make and it was like you fucking idiot like you could have just made that movie to start and all the trailer is is just like I
01:54:30
YOUNGSHELDONRING
I know longer is the first because.
01:54:35
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Yeah.
01:54:45
slimeballsteve
doesn't
01:54:45
YOUNGSHELDONRING
I didn't.
01:54:49
Devon Kopete
titties and blood. Like that's all the trailer is because it wants to show you how uncut it is.
01:54:54
YOUNGSHELDONRING
There you go, man.
01:54:56
Devon Kopete
Which is I'm like, well, somehow I am more interested.
01:54:57
slimeballsteve
Uncut gems Oh
01:55:00
YOUNGSHELDONRING
I might have to do a Devon and choke.
01:55:02
Devon Kopete
Oh, buddy.
01:55:06
slimeballsteve
And and dev Devin's choices at the end for the movie are choker stroke
01:55:07
Devon Kopete
Oh man.
01:55:11
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Joker's stroke, man.
01:55:15
Devon Kopete
Okay. We can do that. We can do that.
01:55:17
YOUNGSHELDONRING
All right.
01:55:18
Devon Kopete
We'll figure it out.
01:55:18
slimeballsteve
Devon 300, Choker Stroke.
01:55:20
Devon Kopete
oh
01:55:21
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Choking.
01:55:22
Devon Kopete
Stroke dude hard stroke.
01:55:23
slimeballsteve
Watchman, Choker Stroke.
01:55:24
Devon Kopete
Oh choke Dude
01:55:27
slimeballsteve
Ooh.
01:55:27
fart souls
yeah you got to tell me when you watch kobbra highi when you see tory choker stroke
01:55:31
YOUNGSHELDONRING
drugs
01:55:31
fart souls
yes
01:55:33
Devon Kopete
I think that's always gonna be a stroke.
01:55:34
slimeballsteve
No,
01:55:35
Devon Kopete
Oh, I love her. She's wonderful On Dragon Ball Z So all we got him ladies and gentlemen, we got him
01:55:37
YOUNGSHELDONRING
I guess we'll find out next week.
01:55:42
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Oh, well, folks.
01:55:44
slimeballsteve
no, no, no, it's not the song for this show.
01:55:46
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Damn it. over
01:55:51
fart souls
Yeah, you got to tell me when you watch Cobra Kai, when you see Tori, Choker's stroke.
01:55:52
YOUNGSHELDONRING
younna do now You Should I do it now?
01:55:54
slimeballsteve
Oh.
01:55:56
YOUNGSHELDONRING
Well, folks, that was another great episode of Galania Trail.
01:56:00
fart souls
Oaks!
01:56:01
YOUNGSHELDONRING
This is Chris Kalani signing off as well as Devin Kopeck. I hope you have a wonderful night. oh yeah