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Demon Slayer Entertainment District Ep 10
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Zuhair, Andrew and J. Scotty are back to cover episode 10 of Demon Slayer's Entertainment District Arc: Never Give Up! Join us as we tackle the highs and lows of this highly celebrated anime adaptation!
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Demon Slayer Episode 10 Overview
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On another exciting entry of Animation Deliberation, we continue our weekly coverage of Demon Slayer's Entertainment District arc with episode 10, Never Give Up. We're gonna get right into that after some ads we have no say over whatsoever. You're invited to explore cypress swamps and magical gardens and float along the rushing waters of an old-fashioned swimming hole. Plan your journey at visitmississippi.org slash outdooradventure. Mississippi. Wanderers welcome.
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Sing along if you know the words. One, two, three, it's time for animation deliberation. A conversation and a celebration of our favorite action animated series. Yeah.
Host Reactions and Praise for Demon Slayer
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All right folks, welcome back to animation deliberation, the podcast that takes action animation and cartoon seriously, but not too seriously.
00:01:43
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And I gotta say, this week it's tough not to take it too seriously because hoo-wee! What an episode. But I'm not alone to discuss it. This week I am joined by the Animation Deliberation Demon Slayer Dream Team. Gentlemen, introduce yourselves.
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As much as I love the show, I cannot wait for... I'm really happy that next week's the last episode. For the sake of my emotions. Fair enough. And I am Andrew Rogers.
00:02:16
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I don't know how to process any of this. I don't want it to be over, but I also don't know how it keeps going. It's everything and nothing. It's something else. This show is a masterpiece. It's all I can say. It's a masterpiece. Okay. Masterpiece is pretty high praise. On that note, before we get super spoiler, it's going to be tough to withhold our thoughts for too long. Zuhar, I'll start with you. On a scale of two.
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Yeah, where you landed on this week's episode. I can't even like write on that because like the excitement of going through a yeah, I can't even like pretend to do it because it just doesn't matter. Like, like my emotions don't convey to the rating. If that makes sense. It's just a really good episode. It doesn't register on the octave. No, no.
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Yeah, I have to agree with Zuhair on that. If you were to take out the last 30 seconds, I would be through the roof with volume and excitement and everything else. And then things happen that obviously turn your stomach into knots and everything else. So it's like, how do I quantify this in terms of excitement versus turmoil?
00:03:35
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Yeah, yeah, I totally get where you're coming from. This week was kind of a unique experience for me just because my brother kind of like stepped into the room as like watching alongside me. So I was explaining things to him at the same time, but he was obviously enraptured with what was going on. And I kept telling him the episode is probably going to end right here. The episode is probably going to end right here. The episode is probably going to end right here. So in that regard, I was actually extremely satisfied with the momentum of the story and some of the things that happened. But yeah,
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We definitely leave things off in a pretty dire situation.
Review Contest Announcement
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Give us some love if you like what we're doing and I will prepare a cartoon for you. And if you need an idea and a little portfolio of this masterpiece is check out jscotty4real on Instagram. That's for the number r-e-e-l. Thank you, sir. Thank you, sir.
Non-Spoiler to In-Depth Analysis Transition
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You flatter. I don't know if Masterpiece is
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If I feel comfortable with that in terms of you just calling this episode a masterpiece, I'll take the praise. So thank you. You said it yourself. It's the highest praise. It's well deserved. Thank you. Thank you. All right, fellas. Now that we've gotten the non-spoiler talk out of the way, let's just get right into it. Go ahead and gush. Who wants to go first?
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I'm going to jump in, not even about the story. I'm going to talk the animation and the music in this episode. We're both, I think, the best that the series has ever done, including the Mugen Train movie. I think this completely outdo that scale. The fire throughout the entirety of the beginning
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I think may have been photo real. It looked very, very close to them actually, like rotoscoping in real flames. So whatever animation they were doing was flawless. The entirety of the fight between Uzui and, well, I guess that spoilers a little bit, Uzui is still back. That entire fight was just the most beautiful, stunning thing. I might be a little partial because I watched it on a new computer monitor, but it was just
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Crisp everywhere and then I've talked the past couple weeks about the music how they've played with us kind of like our subconscious the entirety of the opening sequence where Geotaro is like stalking Tanjiro. There's zero music They made it so eerie and just you had this gut feeling of something's not right Why is it quiet that entire time? the only thing you had was the sound effects of the fire and them talking and
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And then they wrote in music for the second half of the episode and that music just picked up and was fantastic. So they just did a really good job composition wise. We can go over the story in a moment, but I wanted to call out all of this was some of the best work that I think this studio has ever done. Possibly the best anime episode that I've seen period just in terms of quality.
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Yeah, and just to hype on a little on the way you were talking about with the no music, I went and saw jackass yesterday. And that level of cringe in my stomach was about the same as watching this Demon Slayer episode. Obviously much different context, but just the level of discomfort of like what I was seeing and the vibe that it was giving was definitely on par with, you know,
00:07:21
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a bunch of idiots doing cringe-worthy stuff. But that being said, yeah, it was so visually amazing. Mugen Train definitely did set a high bar, and I felt that this did match it if not exceed it.
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There's been a lot of stuff from season one where, or even in Mugen Train, where we see a lot of landscape environments and that was more detailed and more photoreal than the show itself actually was. But because we've been in the entertainment district and been more in buildings and in a city life, I think we've
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missed the level of detail that they truly go into that so when they stepped into the fire and there was more nature and less of like um like human structure and what uh we we kind of we kind of like put that on the shelf and they just brought all that level of detail back out but yeah visually just starting
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For sure. Yeah. The production value was absolutely phenomenal. That's one of the things I said to my brother when we were watching, especially I think the moment that it really kind of
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peaked for me in terms of the music and just the fluidity of the animation plus the number of colors on screen was when Utsui came back into the battle and basically broke down Gitaro's attack and turned it into a song. Everything that was happening there was just so satisfying on every single level. And I even told my brother, I was just like, how can you not be into this anime already just seeing this level of quality? And he agreed.
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So yeah, and that showing of his power was phenomenal. Like this whole time we've been questioning like he could do cool things. We want to see more. I did not expect anything like that. And it felt a little reminiscent of
Emotional Impact and Animation Quality
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Jimmy Neutron like brain blast moment of like going into like the neurons of his thoughts and breaking everything down. I was like, what is going on? This is amazing. And that was just another moment. I agree with the animation just they took my breath away because I didn't know what was going on, but it was still a perfectly painted picture in front of me.
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Certainly, certainly. Yeah. And I have to admit, I don't think I did not pick up on the absence of music in the first part of the episode. And we've already got to spend a little bit of time with the guitar and just know how creepy he is, but just having him taunt Tanjiro the way he did and even admit to him that he liked him because of how disgraceful he was and contemplate the idea of turning him into a demon so that they could be friends was just
00:10:01
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Really riveting stuff. Yeah, Akkala did something similar, so clearly these higher ranked demons really are working on a recruiting process for their upper levels. Yeah, because they do need to find other powerful people in some regard to help their ranks, I guess. Because they lost half of the Kizuki when Muzan took him out, so they're probably like, all right, we got to replenish here a little bit if the demon slayer were killing as many as they're killing. Yeah, very true.
00:10:31
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The demons want you. I'm going to take an Uncle Sam poster and put Moozen's face in place. There's definitely a picture of Akaza pointing out there somewhere you can pull. For sure, for sure. I was trying to find what the Japanese equivalent of Garemi Fasoletido was because when he was going through tracking the blood sites, he was actually saying,
00:10:58
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Guess like notes of some sort. So I was like wondering like what the equivalent was of like that's what he was saying like while he was closing the distance Hmm, but I could not find something because I know in Hindi they have a different one too. So I was like, oh Do you know the the Hindi one off the top of your head sardae gama padani sah interesting interesting
00:11:22
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Yeah, I didn't even think about that, but you're probably right on the money. It was something equivalent to that, the Ramy fossil latigo or what have you. But yeah, I mean, the episode just picked up answering pretty much all the questions that we had coming off of the last episode was a no ski. But yeah, we were wrong about everything. I threw my arms in the air. I was so, so happy.
00:11:49
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Yeah, yeah. And I did laugh a little bit at his explanation. Being able to shift his organs around in his body was like second nature. That was so funny. It was a weird check offs gun. How did we know they were foreshadowing that when he's like, I can move my body and dislocate joints. It was good storytelling, but why? I moved my organs.
00:12:14
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Yeah, we did see him like burrow through the like tunnels like a worm. So it's it's all there. It's within the continuity. It's nothing that we couldn't have guessed, but I just didn't see it coming. And he still has the poison in him. I think everyone's been poisoned at this point, except for maybe Zenitsu. Yes. And he still wasn't poisoned because he was with Daki the whole time. And he knows because he lived in the harsh mountain environment, poisons nothing to him. Hmm.
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That was part of this dialogue too. Yeah.
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But Tanjiro took one of the sighs like right through the chin and that point in the moment or that moment in the episode I like let out an audible gasp which is like holy crap. That was disgusting. They got brutal in this episode like I don't think I felt as guttural of feelings toward a fight since Invincible. Like this kind of gives me that similar feelings internally as that show did of like I need to process this. This was a lot.
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Uzi was just like holding the sword in his mouth and then just showing like how capable it was but I was like oh I thought the chain was gonna be a problem for him and I guess like eventually it got cut off too so you only have to worry about one sword now but Yeah, and at one point it looked like he took like a scythe like directly to the head like I couldn't tell how deep it went into his forehead but it looks like it started to go into his eye and
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At the end, when he was telling Tanjou to run, his eye was gone. There was a slash on his left, the left side of his face and his eye was gone. Yikes. Yeah. And so his left side is just demolished. They all took some bad hits. It was. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know how you walk away from that either. As calmly as he was, like just no eyes still keep fighting. Well, he's flashy.
00:14:06
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Yeah, that he is, that he is. But yeah, it was just, by the end of the episode, we do have both Gitaro and Daki beheaded. It was Tanjiro that was able to behead Gitaro and then Zenitsu plus Inosuke took care of Daki.
00:14:25
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But just the way the story's been going so far, I just kept thinking that they're gonna find a way out of this. They're not both gonna get beheaded by the end of this episode. And by the time that both of their heads go flying through the air and then land and roll to face each other, I was just all sorts of, hell yeah.
00:14:44
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I still like couldn't believe it but it was also this perfect artistic moment like there was a bit of yin and yang as the heads were flying through the air you you felt like them coming together with some symbolic method but also it was like something something's wrong what I don't know what it is but something else is happening I think I was more appealed by when they were in the air with like the mood in the background and everything like
00:15:07
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the beauty of just the timing of them like being cut off, especially after Zenitsu like put the emphasis of like Tanjiro got me this one in a million opportunity like we need to take advantage of it, but like it's they still gave us a moment of it being hopeless like the blade wasn't cutting through Zenitsu couldn't get it on his legs were getting shattered and then the other two showed up so it's like that really highlighted that moment just like seeing them fly through the air like that it was cool how it landed together I guess that was a little more
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I don't want to say predictable, but like I saw that coming, but there was a sense of just like seeing it up in the air. It's like, Oh my God. Like after the last few episodes of just false hope and thinking that it got it through, it's like they're done. Like there's two heads. It's in the air. Nothing's attaching them. We're good. Right. Right. Oh, we're not. Okay. Cool.
00:15:58
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Yeah, that's when you got Utsui saying, Kamado, like, get up, it's not over, it's not over. And at that point when he was saying it was not over, I was like, I kind of...
00:16:08
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knew what was going to happen at that point just it made sense that such a despicable character would have like one final fail safe and just basically cause his body to implode with demon blood art and that's how the episode ends you see the entire city go off almost like an atomic bomb so it's got me concerned excuse me for everybody i mean i didn't think utsui was making it out of this alive for a long time now with all the injuries he suffered but
00:16:37
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I mean all three main characters Nezuko plus the three wives we saw them on the rooftop not that far away So yeah, and he not Saru did not look good on that rooftop either. She was down for the kid did not
00:16:51
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Yeah, didn't suma say like, look beyond the grave or something like that. And then she got kind of chastised. I was like, did she die? Like, is this how you're telling her she died? That would have been really problematic. I will say I actually didn't know what was going on. How you kind of said you saw it coming a little bit, Scotty.
00:17:12
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I when he was like, it's not over. There's more to come like run. I thought Muzan was about to show up. Like I thought the big, big bad was around the corner. I thought we were in for somehow something worse than we got. What we got was still pretty bad. But like, I thought we were gonna have to fight a whole other demon or something like that when he started to say run. I miss a guitar. Oh, actually, straight up said he was like, while his neck was getting cut, he was like, I have to get my blood sickles out.
00:17:40
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That's like, oh, you just straight up told us that you were going to do that. I wasn't expecting like that level of it. Um, so I was thinking that he was going to do something that get her just wasn't done yet. But I was so locked in on who's we saying, Ron, that I mean, I, I couldn't have predicted like that. Just nuclear bomb of a blood show.
00:18:03
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Yeah, he was basically on Extremis at that point in time. That's a Marvel reference for you. But I did find myself, you know, we talked about how epic this battle was from just the scale to the animation quality. It really has me wondering, like, where can the series go from here? Like, we mentioned that it kind of outdid Mugen Train, which was the theatrical release. And we know there are more upper ranked demon out there, including Muzan himself. So like,
00:18:31
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It just has me really fearful. I mean, obviously the situation we left our heroes in at the end of the episode, but even going forward, like Tanjiro got his fingers broken, a side through his chin.
00:18:45
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Zenitsu is the only one that did not suffer grievous bodily injury. He had a building fall on him and his legs were getting destroyed from that technique. That he did. And remember, he was knocked out and kidnapped at 1.2, so he never fully recovered from that either.
00:19:06
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Yeah, I don't know where they go and how they do it. But also you say, okay, what is the future of the show hold? These demons are only ranked six. Every other demon that is still out there that is a big deal is above them and more powerful than them. So they destroyed like a whole city trying to fight off these two. What is the next thing gonna look like? It's not a vodka set to deal with.
Upper Rank Demons in Demon Slayer
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Yeah.
00:19:30
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Yeah. Are we aware of any of the other upper rank demons or is Akazah the only one we know about at this point? We've seen flashes of them and flashbacks and stuff, but we don't know any of them by name or by power or anything like that. Okay.
00:19:46
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Well, one of the things I kind of wanted to back pedal to is I did appreciate as awesome as this episode was in terms of the action and moving the story forward. I felt like we got some nice callbacks to like season one Demon Slayer and some things we haven't seen in a long time including, I guess we saw it at the beginning of the season with Tundra doing his headbutt and we got a little bit more context for that at the very end of the episode. But the whole sequence where
00:20:12
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We kind of thought tundra was kind of sniveling and running away and whatnot when guitar realize the strategy that he was employing in order to get that kunai in him to get that first beheading opportunity it reminded me almost all the way back to like the first couple of episodes of demon slayer where. Help me with the water here again tomioka.
00:20:34
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Yeah. Okay. Yeah, when he acknowledged the strategy that Tanjiro employed by distracting him, I was just really satisfied with that stuff.
00:20:45
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It really showed his ingenuity in that moment because I was surprised that Tanjiro was really running away like this. I could totally see it being a very real thing to do when you're in that much fear with no energy. It's like you kind of have to protect yourself and your sister, but to know the whole time he was still being the honorable Tanjiro that we know coming up with a clever plan, distracting him with the things on the ground.
00:21:09
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Very, very well done to the point that you had the audience convinced that either could be true. Like I didn't doubt the actions at either point.
00:21:18
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Yeah, when I went in for the headbutt, I was concerned for a moment because I was like, there's no way he's getting out of this with just a headbutt. Like, what? I was worried about what the writers were thinking of in that moment. Then when they added the kunai, and then also the detail of he was able to go toe to toe with Gyotaro after the beheading didn't work because the poison hadn't fully coming out yet.
00:21:42
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I was like, cool, because now we could see some slowed, like, the fast stuff is really cool. They make it look really nice when it was in the game. Good guitar, but...
00:21:50
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when it was slowed down and it was Tundra holding the zone against him, that looked really nice. And from familiarity of training with stick and sword and stuff, these three fingers are kind of all you need, the ring, pinky, and thumb. So the fact that he broke the other two in my head, I was like, he still holds a sword just fine. So the fact that I was right on that, he was just using those three, I was like, cool.
00:22:14
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That's actually a really nice note, because I was like, how can you fight? I assumed it was because he still had that sword strapped to his hand was the only reason he could actually really hold him, but to know that they took the time to kind of get the realism there. How do you choreograph that in a manga or anime? Like, that's so much dedication to the storytelling.
00:22:34
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Yeah, I don't have a stick like within reach with having to take my headphones off. But basically, it's like your bottom two fingers are what's like holding it in place. And the first two is just kind of like it rocks between there for like flexibility. So it's just kind of like that you're in your index and middle finger just kind of like promotion while the bottom two are like what's keeping it stable and tighten down as need be. But in terms of like holding your blade, those three fingers like on a gun is just all you need.
00:23:02
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It's an impressive level of detail and it clearly shows that just the dedication and the research that's gone into every single frame of the show, but seeing those fingers snap back and turning like black and then purple definitely gave me some My Hero Academia vibes, just, you know, as if Eumadoria constantly breaking his fingers at the beginning of that show. I question how you heal that though.
00:23:26
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Just for like they talk about them having to like recoup injuries. Can you really come back from your fingers being shattered to that degree? Just tape them together. He'll be fine. Yeah. I guess that in conjunction with like the breathing techniques, maybe they have a way of like delivering more specific calcium and nutrients to that area of the body. Maybe that's my head cannon.
00:23:51
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Yeah, they don't have the convenience of my hero having a nurse, I can just kiss it and actually make it better. But I do appreciate that they go into the detail of saying like, hey, we've been in recovery for like six months to a year. It's not like they're just magically better all the time.
00:24:07
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Yeah, and and I guess I didn't ask the question, but in my head I was asking the question of like, do we think he's going to keep those fingers or not? Like if they can't heal, are they just gonna just kind of get rid of him or and now he's going to be handicapped in some fighting regard and it's going to play better into the story. I don't know. Now they'll be pop back in and like tape at the least.
00:24:30
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Yeah, that's for whatever reason that's making me think of other parts of the episode and some things we had never seen before. And I was kind of imagining if he did lose those fingers when he goes like full power mode, like we saw his scar transform into a flame and it looked like his hair kind of like lit on fire as well. He went Super Saiyan. Yeah, exactly. I was just kind of imagining two flame fingers kind of appearing and replacing those missing fingers, but I do think they'll probably heal properly. Super slayer in?
00:24:59
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Ah, now that is an edit that I would definitely look to see someone do some art of for sure. Now that whole transformation was really interesting. Like is his scar going to now permanently be bigger? Because we've seen a change over the course of the show. Or is it just going to be a thing that like, we know he's getting angry because he goes, you know, a little Hulk in a scar transforms and stuff. I mean, it'd be cool if he just went so hard that he burned more of his head.
00:25:27
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That's kind of my expectation, but I could really see it going either way. Yeah. Yeah. Everyone loves a good transformation. Well, at this point, I don't know if I have too much more to say. Actually, you know, I am thinking about some of the quieter moments. Like it was nice to not have the action interrupted at all with Tanjiro doing too much monologuing, which I know you appreciated Zuhair.
00:25:51
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But the quiet moments that we did get, Nezuko kind of stepped up and it was really nice to be able to hear that voice actress do a little bit more than her just kind of mewing and squeaking and whatnot. She played a good little sister there. It was a nice little in the fields kind of conversation.
00:26:12
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Sorry, I like that it wasn't that he was like just hallucinating and she was talking to him like it actually was conversations from his past that was like connecting with him. And I feel like that added that added a whole like level like power to the essence of that too. Because if it was just like, don't you don't get up like it wouldn't be the same as opposed to like the flashback and the recollection of like his relationship with his sister that actually powered him through.
00:26:39
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Yeah, exactly. I agree. It just gave so much more context to their past and their relationship. And that's actually where the episode opened. We talked about how last week it was just Tanjiro falling and saying, sorry, sorry, everyone, sorry, Nezuko. And then we opened with this flashback and she's like, why are you always apologizing? Why do you think there's always someone to blame? It was just a really good message.
00:27:01
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Learning to be happy and knowing that your happiness is your own control is something that you kind of have to learn day by day and it's easier in some moments than others. But it's a really good message and the fact that it did come from his little sister is pretty awesome because we talk about how honorable Tanjiro is and he kind of seems without fault sometimes which makes him a little difficult to relate to but just having that acknowledgement I found incredibly satisfying and it was great to get it from Nezuko.
00:27:30
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Yeah, it's a real good embodiment of a brother-sister relationship. I have a younger sister and I just kind of had that feeling of like, this is how you teach each other. This is the way that siblings really interact and show like, hey, I'm going to help you, but you have to help yourself too. It was just a really nice message, like you said.
00:27:50
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And in hindsight, you know, thinking about Giutaro was like criticizing Tanjiro for not being a good big brother, because like, you're supposed to have a little sister and this and that.
Sibling Dynamics: Tanjiro and Nezuko
00:28:00
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But now you understand it's like the full dynamic is actually that it is a give and take between them. Yeah, and any sibling will tell you, as much as you know, the older one's going to take care of the younger one, chances are the younger one is probably taken care of the older one more times than they can actually count because they're just relying on each other, they're helping each other. And it's, it's,
00:28:20
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It's just how siblings are and how that love actually goes. It's not one-sided. It's not always going to be that. There is a protective element, but you still have that back and forth for sure. Yeah. It's making me think, do we have an age for Nezuko? Is she like 14 if Tundra is like 16? I think it was like 15 and 13 or something. You were pretty close with the actual gap. Okay. But I will say as we're on the topic of siblings and the really nice story,
00:28:47
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Oh, she was 12 when she became a demon 12. Oh, wow. Okay. The parallel that they had of that moment where Tanjiro realized we both could have been demons. This could have been me and Nezuko together was a really
00:29:02
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powerful revelation for him to be able to have. It was kind of a conversation about fate and what is your destiny? Things could go a different way. These people in a very, very different situation from you really aren't that far off of what you could be. Even though he obviously hates these demons, even though Gyotaro is obviously a menace and a terrible being, he still kind of had that moment where he seemed to care a little bit and was like, do I really need to do this? This could have been me.
00:29:30
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I could have been on the other end of the sword. What would that have been like was again powerful and they didn't really necessarily need to do that because it didn't add anything to the fight. He didn't pull his punches because he realized it could have been him, but it still was this amazingly moving scene just to show you the emotion of the character.
00:29:48
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And he just watched Ren Goku go down by not turning into a demon as well. So it's like he just knowing that as a character, like he wouldn't have done that. But that would have been such disrespect to like what he feels towards Ren Goku and like what he learned from him to be able to do something like that.
00:30:07
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Yeah, certainly. I did find myself wondering if they were both demons, what an absolute terrible force of destruction they would be. I think they would probably outdo Gitaro and Daki, but it encapsulates Tanjiro's empathy and his ability to relate to these demons. He still recognizes the fact that they were humans at one point in time.
00:30:32
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I was a little surprised when we got the beheading and their faces like faced each other that we didn't get that flashback to see how they became demons. But I imagine that's probably how the next episode will probably open or we'll get that pretty quickly after, you know, discovering the fates of all our characters. But yeah, I don't know if I have anything else to say about this episode. So if you guys have any speculation or predictions for the future, I welcome you to tackle that now.
00:30:57
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I don't think I have any speculation. I don't think we paid justice necessarily so I'm going to bring back up that ending scene was just another perfect rendition of them playing with music. The fact that we did not cut to our usual outro because I expected them to almost do the explosion and then cut to outro.
00:31:16
Speaker
just so you're sitting there wondering what happened instead they did the explosion you got to see it go off and i'm like okay the outro will cut soon and no you're just staring as this beautiful smoke appears in the distance and you can see the embers start to fall no music just the credits overlaying it we didn't get our usual it was just
00:31:37
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They let you sit there with your mistakes because obviously we did nothing wrong but they really let you sit there and mull over what happened internally and this is not the first show to do that where they fake you out with the credits like that but it's just so well done and the fact that they know when and where to place that is it was perfect and it was a beautiful scene no matter how heartbreaking it was to watch.
00:32:03
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Yeah, it's clever because you're watching the fire like just go out and everything too. And it's like, hello, like somebody scream or stand up or like, give me some indication of what happened to these four. Come on. Five? Yeah. Yeah, that was great how you had like the initial afterglow from the explosion kind of like slowly subsides. So by the time the credits are over, it's almost entirely dark except for the little embers here and there providing a little bit of glow.
00:32:30
Speaker
Yeah, it reminded me a little bit of Indiana Jones and The Last Crusade, the way that movie ended. You just have, you know, Indiana, his father, and Salla all riding off into the sunset and it never really fades to black. You just watch them go further and further and further off into the sunset. Yeah, I really don't know the fate of our characters, though. I think that's going to be the biggest question. And did either of you stick around after the credits hoping that we would get a post credit scene?
00:32:57
Speaker
Cause I didn't, I didn't expect to given the dark ending there, but I was pleasantly surprised though. Yeah. It did make me laugh though. I will say that much. They, they definitely took the weight off a little bit cause it was still the dark, like Tanjiro's dying. What's going to happen? And then Nezuko pops up. We'll find out next week for now. You want to learn about head butts.
00:33:17
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm actually glad you mentioned that too, because I would be remiss if we didn't discuss that revelation about the headbutt. I was genuinely surprised to learn that he got his hard head from his mother as opposed to his father. Yeah. I don't know if there's anything necessarily to read into that, but I love the imagery of her headbutting Inosuke pretending to be a bore. Yeah. Good stuff.
00:33:45
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I found a chart that has everyone's age and birthdays and their height. Oh, all right. Run through it real quickly for us, if you will. I'm going to throw out Ren Goku first because not only did he die at 20, but he has my birthday of May 10th. Oh, cool. And he's 5'10", which makes- Shorter than I expected. Yeah, Tengen is 23 with a Halloween birthday of October 31st, and he's 6'6".
00:34:15
Speaker
Okay, I knew he was tall, but... That could be coming from the manga, so don't read too far into some of those names, I'm sure. Well, if I remember, I'll try and link it somewhere on one of the socials so that people can take a look at that themselves.
00:34:46
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Daki and Gyotaro are 13 years apart, Daki being 113 years old and Gyotaro being 126. Interesting, so I'm guessing they were probably like 13 and 26 when they were turned or something along those lines and it's been 100 years, if I had to hazard a guess. While we're on the topic of looking things up, I also found the quick answer to what the words that Uzui was saying when he broke down the score. Those are actually just numbers.
00:35:16
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I believe it was 1357 or 1375, but basically he was just counting through, so I'm guessing it was something along the lines of what you were talking about, Zuhair, of he was either counting beats or counting notes on the scale. It could be something along those lines, but yes, those are numbers in Japanese. Yeah, maybe like a time signature is what it sounds like to me. Oh, yeah, it could be something along those lines.
00:35:43
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So Guillaume Imejima is the really big one, the one that's always crying and praying. He's 27, his birthday's August 23rd, and he is 7-2. Oh, big boy. Yeah. Giyu Tomiyoko was apparently 19 when we first met him. He's 21 by episode 15. Okay. And then Tanjiro was 13 when we met him. He's 15 now, with Nezuko being 12 when we met her, and 14 now.
00:36:12
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Okay, but she doesn't really age so Yeah, and Zenny 216 in else case 15 So Zenny's is the oldest one of the crew You know, I do think I knew that because that was kind of I think they poked fun at that at one point like you were the oldest Why are you the like sniveling hide behind us of the group? That's so crazy. That's this whole crew is just like everybody's like early in college dealing with high schoolers and
00:36:38
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Yeah, it's a younger dynamic when we think about them as adults and that's not the case.
00:36:44
Speaker
for them to be literally saving the world. Makes me feel that much more unaccomplished. Just kidding. I do wonder, is that a little bit of why the general public does not take the Demon Slayer core seriously? Obviously, most of them don't know about it. But even when they see them, they're like, why is this person running around with a sword? Do you think it's because they just look at a bunch of 16 to 20-year-olds running around being like, what are you doing? Why are you like this?
00:37:13
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I mean, you would think the destruction of a whole district would be like incentive enough to like recognize the demon court to a higher level. Yeah, actually, maybe start a recruiting process for them. I don't know.
00:37:29
Speaker
Does this happen every time that they fight Ahashira? Like, you can't tell me none of the others were also not giving up a fight like this, so how is this much destruction going on? And it's like, like we said, the first time that it's really being noticed that the Demon Slayer core isn't public knowledge, if they're probably doing decent damage to property every single time.
00:37:51
Speaker
Yeah, it makes me wonder if there's like one of the upper ranked demon has some like ability to maybe like hypnotize the public or impact their memory or something like that. Or maybe one of the Hashira may do it just to keep the... Yeah, it could have been Anmu actually because just put people to sleep while they're fighting a Hashira so that no one is actually like paying attention to what's going on so they can tear up the town and do what they need to.
00:38:18
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But now they don't have Enmoo, so perhaps we're kind of right and people will notice now because they can't do a little men in black and memory wipe everybody. Yeah, good reference.
Historical Context of Demon Slayer
00:38:31
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Sorry, that's interesting. I was watching the last samurai last night just because I hadn't seen it in so long. And like, it kind of made the timeline kind of match up because we talked about this being in like the early 1900s. And the last samurai was like 1877. So this is the fall of the samurai, General Custer's last stand. And then, you know,
00:38:54
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There was dialogue about the Emperor talking about how we're transitioning to the west and updating our stuff, and they're talking about these nice guns, big guns, stuff like that. While I was watching Last Samurai, I was thinking about the fact that I was watching Demon Slayer today, and the whole timeline stuff that we were talking about just kind of makes sense by why things look the way they do.
00:39:15
Speaker
Yeah, I'm pretty confident that this story is going to take place on the side of the world that it currently is. But it just kind of made me have a little chuckle imagining like a Teddy Roosevelt demon just being like. That sounds like an amazing spin off show like the cowboy demon slayers that are currently operating on the other side of the world.
00:39:39
Speaker
That'd be pretty cool. I like it. I like it. All right. Well, it sounds like we're towards the end of the episode here, so I will open up the floor for you guys to let the people know what you have going on.
Guest Appearance on 'The 323 with Reed Murphy'
00:39:51
Speaker
Yeah, so I got to a guest on a podcast called the 323 with Reed Murphy, that's R E I D. We talked about the Washington football team now being the Washington commanders. So just kind of like our ups and downs about all that what the team means to us and stuff in NFL. But we also talked a lot about animation to some of his favorite shows. He he put me on the spot and asked me about my favorite
00:40:18
Speaker
superhero adaptations that have been put into comic book form so if you want to know the answer to that go check it out on anywhere you find your podcast. What's the name of the podcast one more time for the folks? The 323 with Reed Murphy. Very cool. Andrew, what do you want to let the people know about?
00:40:37
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As per usual, just follow us on our social medias. I'm taking care of that. And starting to toy around with some new stuff so you'll be able to hear little snippets of the podcast. Maybe send those off to your friends to intrigue them and be like, hey, this is what I actually listen to. This is what people talk about. So yeah, keep following us there. And that's all I got for this week.
00:40:57
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Yeah, a very valiant effort there. I'm really impressed with some of the things you're doing, so that's exciting. Definitely give us a like and a follow on our social medias. For myself, I will just remind everyone about that review contest, the first five reviews we get on Apple Podcast, or if you review otherwise, let us know. You'll be entered into a drawing to get a
00:41:17
Speaker
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00:41:42
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