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Business of Machining - Episode 12
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Book: How to Win Friends http://amzn.to/2ovOvWf AMAZING Miyano Turret Lathe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1Y_3jWBDzU
Saunders sails through the past week with relative ease, lower stress levels and high productivity. Grimsmo gets ready for the next wave of production in what he calls the “calm before the storm.” The glorious grinding wheel Grimsmo has been expecting arrives and comes with a free lesson. In addition to the weekly updates, Saunders and Grimsmo explore an underestimated external business investment: Ensuring that your network is able to invest in you as a person to maximize success. Fostering relationships and paying it forward adds value to those invested in your success and creates exponential opportunity. Lastly, a special announcement for the SMW Open House May 6th, 2017. Don’t miss it!
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Transcript
A Productive Start and Shop Success
00:00:00
Speaker
Hello and welcome to Business of Machining, episode 12. I am one of your hosts, John Grimsmough. And I am John Saunders. Good morning. Good morning, buddy. How's it going? You know what? Great. Like legitimately great. Ooh, legitimately great. I like it.
00:00:16
Speaker
Yeah, and you know why we had so, this could have been, we got fortunate or lucky in the sense that we had some stuff going this week that went well, but more importantly, what I did well was actually manage my time and schedule and realistic expectations. It just felt fulfilling.
Haas Machine Issue and Solutions
00:00:38
Speaker
We have this thing with our Haas where I think it's just our coolant is causing the tool changer to have a little bit of suction. So it sounds like it's a popping noise when it pulls the Cat40 tool out. And I think long story short, what it is is that when your coolant, you know, has some reverse emulsification or it, or the water evaporates out, it forms a little bit more of a sticky, almost not honey like, but stickier stuff.
00:01:03
Speaker
So it's just a question of cleaning that. But Haas was here just taking a look at it. They've been great. The Okamoto surface grinder guy was here. That went great. We had Kweli Kim here filming. That went great. I had someone here on Monday and I can't even remember at this point. Oh, a new training thing we're playing around with, which I'll talk about later if it happens. And then we did a surface plate party where we had a
00:01:27
Speaker
Lapping company come in and we had nine had folks bring in nine different plates and we all lapped our plates in and Amongst all of that we kept the shop running and running. Well, and I was never too stressed and all that. That's amazing That's a good week, man
00:01:47
Speaker
How's your week?
Material Shortage and Coolant Challenges
00:01:49
Speaker
Busy? We're starting to run out of materials. In a bad way. Yeah, in a bad way. But stuff's on order. Stuff's starting to come in now. So we've got new handles coming in. But we're sort of in the calm before the storm, before the next wave of production starts, since we're getting low on materials. And I'm falling behind on some of the machining stuff.
00:02:14
Speaker
So we're getting a lot of random stuff around the shop done, like I installed coolant filters on my Maury. Oh, because you're doing the grinding? Because we're doing the grinding and all the small machining and stuff, it's just making all this dust.
00:02:30
Speaker
That's really fantastic. Had a lot of leak issues trying to get these things dialed in. Oh, really? Yeah. Just the wrong kind of fittings. You're looking at the McMaster website and you try to figure out what to order. When it gets here, you're like, that's not even physically possible to thread that together the way it all works, as careful as I was trying to be. A couple of trips to the local
00:02:53
Speaker
Parker distributor store and a lot of money later and then yeah, right good to go. So it's just an external can filter like a External filter. Yeah, I filter Canister filter cartridge whatever you call it. That's right
00:03:13
Speaker
Pearson Workholding a couple months ago put up a picture on their Instagram about, I know they're all over, but about how they did their filtration system with McMaster Park numbers and everything. So that's kind of the impetus to get going on there. That's cool. Well, I got to buy a, or buy or build, or actually I should not build a either a filter, a cancer filter or screen filter or magnetic filter for the grinder. Cause it has nothing right now. It's just a straight coolant return. Yeah.
00:03:41
Speaker
Are you happy with it or TBD? I think I'm happy with it now. I was only able to run a couple parts with it last night. But no more leaks. Once we got the right fittings, then it's good to go. That's cool. And we figured these filters are going to last for about three or four days before they need to be replaced, just because of all the junk that's probably in the coolant.
00:04:02
Speaker
Already. Serious? Well, it's dirty now, right? Right. Next filter change should last a lot longer. I mean, it doesn't look dirty. I'm just assuming that it needs to be cleaned. That's fair. Yeah.
00:04:16
Speaker
Uh, but I feel like, I feel like I don't like this. Hold on. What's that? Are you getting a weird noise? Nevermind. I don't know. It's gone. Um, I feel like last week or in the few weeks before it's been like good, uh, progress on machining. I feel like I don't like when you say like a next wave and certain, no, that's not good. Like it's supposed to be, um, slow and steady and in the process and a rhythm, not this, you know, we're getting ready for the invasion. Yeah, it is. What's up with, what's up with that?
00:04:45
Speaker
Last week was probably our biggest week, definitely our biggest week ever in production, and it was fantastic. Today has just slowed down as far as knives out the door. And there's some excusable reasons, but maybe not.
Efficient Machining and Inventory Insights
00:05:01
Speaker
But get there. It's funny, our friend at SS CAD CAM that was on WhatsApp last night mentioned that his day just got totally hosed because he broke a through spindle coolant drill.
00:05:16
Speaker
For those of you out there that have never had the luxury of using a TSC drill, they are the eighth wonder of the world. I absolutely love them. We've been using them so much on our Haas. And this comes from a frugal bootstrapper. I've never been so excited to pay $200 for a drill bit in my life.
00:05:36
Speaker
they are very different in the sense that you can't just, I mean, if you want to replace it with a non-through spindle drill, you've got to completely change your speeds and feeds, which doesn't sound like a big deal, but maybe it's more mental than anything, but he had that problem too, where it's like, okay, now all of a sudden I got to slow it down, I got to peck, I got to do forward tracks, I got to worry about chip buildup, and we had a rush job come in, I think I mentioned it maybe last week, but it came back in again,
00:06:03
Speaker
and we were poking a, it's a little under half inch, four, six, eight, drill down 1.75 inches in steel at, again, I think it's, I don't even, I backed it way down to go easy on it, and it was like 70 inches, and then it no back. Jeez, in steel. In steel. That's fantastic. That's amazing. But my point, what kind of made me think was a little mental note, which is that we, it's so fun to talk about process, but process, I guess, just isn't,
00:06:33
Speaker
In some instances, processes bringing the past into the future, you're like, OK, what I've learned in the past, I need to memorialize on a piece of paper. And I still love this idea of laminating it and so forth. But the process, I think, also has to do with the future, which is now, at this point, you should have inventory on hand. You should have supply on hand. You should have certain key tools like that. Suck it up. Buy a second one. You know what? Because guess what? Drill bits break. There's zero chance that that drill bit is in use in the shop in a year or two.
00:07:04
Speaker
So just do it. You shouldn't run out of Torx screws. The screwdrivers, yeah. What is it? Oh, it's the screwdriver. Yeah, the screwdriver. Got it. The little flag wrenches. Got it.
00:07:20
Speaker
And on that note, I was on this luncheon call yesterday. I couldn't drive over to the place, or it was a ways away, but it was this Entrepreneur's Forum. And one of the guys was talking about his story. And he had a saying that I like it so much that I might make a little sign out of it. Growth eats cash for breakfast. That could not be more true. Holy cow. Right?
00:07:48
Speaker
Yep. And it's, and it's, you know, money is fungible, but cash is different. It's cash is investment and equipment. Cash is payroll. Cash is working capital. Cash is, you know, so many different types of cash, but growth loves it all. So hungry. That's very true.
00:08:08
Speaker
Yeah, but it was cool. They were talking about the E-Myth book and I had to laugh because I was like, I know I've read it, but I feel like it's been a while. I couldn't find my copy at home and I went into my Amazon order history and I was like, well, let me just see if I bought it a year ago and then I'll get mad at myself because it has to be somewhere and it was purchased on August 15th of 2002.
00:08:31
Speaker
Was Amazon even around in 2002? Obviously, but... Apparently, because I have a photographic... I have a proof of the order, so that book's long gone. I'll buy another one. Yeah. But it's a good book. I know you've spoken well of it, and I need to reread it. Yep. Yep. It suits through different phases of business. You got it 13 years ago. You probably haven't read it much since. You'll read it differently now, for sure. Right. Right. And that is a good point. I like that.
00:08:59
Speaker
I've been building up a little library of things that I need to reread because books, they're kind of like a filter. They kind of go in and out. And for me, every two or three years I try to reread How to Win Friends and Influence People because that was more than anything else. That book sort of shaped my adult character and life and outlook on life and how you kind of going back to that make your own happiness and yeah, just a big book for me.
00:09:26
Speaker
Yeah, I actually have not read that one yet. I've heard about it a lot. I should read it. I'd like to. Let's see, what else did I do this week? Oh yeah, since I've been talking about it so many times throughout the podcast, the grinding wheel came in last Friday.
Lessons from Setbacks and Improvements
00:09:43
Speaker
This is a week ago and I This is the one to do your knife Yes, yes, this is the one that I've been working on I mean, I've been working on this grinding project for like seven months. I feel like I know Lind at this point exactly and So the wheel came in last Friday after four weeks of being custom ordered and custom made and everything I got it mounted up. I got it true. It took me a long time. I took my time and
00:10:05
Speaker
And then at the end of the day, I was kind of rushing it and I was like, I just want to grind one blade before I go home. I want to see what the finish looks like. And it was the stupidest thing ever because I rushed and I forgot to tell the controller that it's a two inch wheel, not a 1.75 inch wheel. And it crashed. The new one was bigger. Yeah, the new one was bigger and I knew it was bigger, but I forgot to tell the controller and I'm using cutter comp.
00:10:28
Speaker
for all the grinding passes. So it smooshed going down and then it ground itself in. It moved my vice over about 50 thou. Whoa. Yeah, I didn't realize that till the next day.
00:10:39
Speaker
And the wheels destroyed. I was crushed. Oh, John. I'm over it now. That was the one that took like four weeks. No, that's like four weeks, right, to get it? Yeah, totally. I was totally crushed last Friday. And you don't even know if it was, you have no idea if it was good. Exactly. I was never able to get a finish from it.
00:11:00
Speaker
So, you know, at that point you just hit the E-stop and go home and just like you're done. Oh, I'm sorry. But, yeah, lesson learned. And then I came in on Saturday. What is the lesson learned? The lesson is don't rush and don't think you can do things last minute when they're that important.
00:11:18
Speaker
That's that's my lesson. I often run into problems when I'm rushing right at the end I just want to get this one thing done. It's a stupid rule you tell yourself like Like I just want to do this and then I'll be happy and then I'll go home But you need to be able to back off and be like that's gonna be there tomorrow like it's it's important There's no benefit to rushing it now
00:11:39
Speaker
It's just you tell yourself you want to do it, so you need to make it happen, but it's kind of stupid. Well, so the lesson learned was to just, you shouldn't have, you were too tired. It was just, you shouldn't have done it. Is that the lesson learned? Yeah, I shouldn't have gone that last extra little mile.
00:11:55
Speaker
rushed that last little thing. So I should have just set it up and be like, you know what? I'm going to come in with a fresh face in the morning and check everything, crush it. And then I probably would have remembered to do it. But I struggle with this, though, because we were filming with Quali-Chem. And it was just me and Jen Boakam from Quali-Chem. And so I had two GoPros, two digital cameras, and then two Zoom audios for the audio. And so six things to hit record on.
00:12:25
Speaker
And I've been filming for years. I've got my stuff together. I keep it low stress and casual. And I was like, okay, that's going, that's going, that's going, that's going. And at the end of our two and a half hours of talking, I looked down and my Zoom audio was on and recording, but my laugh mic was off. And it's like, I don't know that I can tell myself
00:12:48
Speaker
What the solution is to that because I wasn't rushing I was fresh and I was going through I was trying to be methodical Short of making like a checklist for every device Maybe it's just a bad system because it's just too much but too many batteries too many SD cards and all that. Yeah, I
00:13:06
Speaker
because it's like so easy for you and me to sit here and reverse analyze these situations when we're not in the moment. But I know what you mean. I mean, I can't tell you how many times I've been like, I just want to go home and think about the next steps now that that went well. You're right.
00:13:22
Speaker
not wait for tomorrow with that wheel. Right. Yeah, exactly. You just want to keep crunching. But anyway, I came back in the morning, and the wheel is in pieces. It's still attached to the arbor, but it's missing a bunch of pieces. But there's still a strip of it that, when rotated, is still whole. So I'm like, you know what?
00:13:43
Speaker
So you've got a two flute wheel now. Exactly. Yeah, it looks like an end mill now. I'm like, you know what, I'm going to try to grind with it anyway. If I can get a surface finish from it, then I can have feedback to send back to Linda, because I don't even know if the composition of the wheel works with what I'm trying to do.
00:14:02
Speaker
So I'm like, okay, next time I'm going to order two just in case. But if I order two and they don't work because it's the wrong composition, because I never got to check it, then that's another four weeks down the drain. Why are you ordering two? In case you break one more.
00:14:15
Speaker
Nah, you won't. But you know what I mean, to have two on hand, like you just said earlier about drill bits. Well, but I would agree with that because that tools, you're just experimenting. I would order two for something as part of your wheelhouse, pun intended. So anyway, I was able to get a finish from it.
00:14:33
Speaker
And it's noticeably better than the old grinding wheel, but it's still you know not perfect but that could be excusable because the wheel is totally mangled and Anything over 4,000 rpm you can hear that. It's out of balance like whoa So true So it's it might actually work so I took I took video actually of just on my phone real quick of
00:14:56
Speaker
grinding thoughts, explained it, about eight minutes of video and I sent it to Linda and I showed, you know, this is the other wheel, this is this wheel and explained it all and I sent it to her and her boss and they both got back to me and they're like, nobody has ever gone to this lengths.
00:15:12
Speaker
to work with us before and like to feedback with us and we appreciate it so much. And I'm like, this is just what I do. Like value add, you know? I want the right result and showing video is probably the best way to do it because you can speak freely. It's not an email. So that worked out really well. So yeah, she's going to make me one the exact same and then one slightly different, slightly softer cutting for your cutting. And then I'll get two and they're going to try to rush it maybe two to three weeks
00:15:41
Speaker
Sweet. You can't dress it down, right? It's hosed. Bar diameter? Yeah, it's completely hosed. It's just on, so the wheel is, you said it's a vitrified wheel? It's a resin bond wheel. Resin bond, so it's bonded around a solid core, like a steel core that is the arbor? Yeah, yeah, aluminum core. It's aluminum? So the shank is aluminum as well? Yep. Well, it's not a shank, it's like a, looks like a donut, like a square shaped donut.
00:16:13
Speaker
Okay. What's the, so then there's a vertical shag that you put into an ER collar holder? No, it goes into a, onto a shell mill holder. Oh, I'm sorry. Okay. Got it. Yep. Wow. Oh, that thing's beefy then. Cool.
00:16:26
Speaker
Yeah, so I got the old wheel mounted up. I haven't truted up yet, but I'll be back in rock today, hopefully, grinding the old way, which is good. Right. It's a good lesson too. You talk about getting kicked when you're down. It's like that happens and then you
00:16:45
Speaker
You try to recover and you just move forward instead of taking this Like literally that's sometimes where I'll slow as fast like I will actually legitimately stop and I'll go for a walk around my building Yeah, just just take a one one lap and come back in and then just look at the machine and that's when you're like wait I should sweep my bison because So demoralizing if you then start making bad parts because like you said your vices out. Yeah, I
00:17:10
Speaker
Yeah, because on the next Saturday, when I came in to grind with the bad wheel, I was like awkwardly placed with one hand on the feed hold and one hand on the e-stop for like six minutes watching this thing take 50 passes. And it didn't touch the entire time because the vice's 50th thou out. Oh, that's funny. So that was funny. Yeah. But yeah, almost immediately after I crashed it,
00:17:36
Speaker
I was reciting your mantra in my head like a slow is smooth, smooth is fast, and it just felt so stupid.
Trust in Tools and Simulation Software
00:17:45
Speaker
It happens. I'm totally over it now and realize it's just a silly thing. There will be many more in the future.
00:17:55
Speaker
No, and that's the debate. You know, somebody was telling me, you know, with the Haas or the VMC, you know, always cut an air first, you know, or, you know, set a two-inch Z offset above your part and run that first. And I'm kind of like, maybe the 50-year-old John will look back at the 33-year-old John and say, you were immature and you were rushing.
00:18:15
Speaker
It's a trade-off. We run so many programs. I cannot cut each one in air. I generally trust my tools. I generally trust my camp simulation. Mistakes will happen.
00:18:32
Speaker
I don't know. I can't justify the amount of time it would take. No, don't get me wrong. We do either a single line, single block, and we'll turn coolant off and pause and look at distance to go and stuff. But I'm not going to run it in the air every program. Yeah, you've got to trust yourself and your experience. Now, if I had a lathe, that would be very different.
00:18:54
Speaker
Yeah. I often run the lathe without the coolant or slowly. I don't often change Z like out two inches and then cut it. Yeah. Sometimes I'll put brass in there, just a bit more forgiving. But yeah, I'll often go single line or optional stop and just really slow. How have you gotten so good at, I mean, I know you do some parting and actually you do some facing ops on your sub spindle that are like 3000 in front of the collet, right? How'd you, how'd you get good at that?
00:19:25
Speaker
Very slowly, ran into a couple of collets. Oh, you did? Oh, yeah. Use brass collets? Sometimes, mostly the steel ones. Mostly just hardened stainless. Insert cuts right through it, like butter. Yeah. Yeah, just slow, slow, slow. Oftentimes, like on the sub-spin, I'll get all the offsets right. I'll manually jog the tool in place, manually pull it down to the sub, and see where the numbers are.
00:19:52
Speaker
And I can visually see it's 3 tau out. At Z0, it's going to work. And then there's that issue of trust. Everything I see, everything I know tells me it's going to work. So I'll do it slowly, but I'm going to do it. Yeah.
00:20:09
Speaker
That's good. And then it's essentially it's CNC. If it clears once, it's going to clear the next time. Totally. Yeah, that I have. I'm with you there. But boy, I was thinking about how I don't know if it'll ever happen, meaning even in the next few years, this idea of
00:20:25
Speaker
Fusion 360 or similar type software having machine simulation where I can actually either download or model up my turret or my whole vice system and nose and spindle and so forth and actually being able or fifth axis stuff and being able to actually see true which I think I think like some of the big software already has.
00:20:45
Speaker
5-figure stuff, right? Yeah, like for the Nakamura lathes, they often sell them with Camplete software. Oh yeah. Which is a simulation software. That's like 17 grand though. Yeah, it's ridiculous. But, you know, if you have a two or three turret lathe and... Oh my god. You need that, right?
00:21:04
Speaker
Remember that video you sent me like six months ago of that lathe that was rigid tapping between a moving sub-bindle and a moving sub-axis? Yeah, for those listening, go to YouTube and Google Miano, M-I-Y-A-N-O-I-M-T-S, something like that. It's a three-turd lathe, and everything's happening at the same time.
00:21:28
Speaker
This is insane. It's literally like think your tail stock which has a spindle is running away from the headstock and while it's running away a Turret on the low bottom side is chasing it with a rigid tap and rigid or do something right? Yeah, earth ready I think that lower turret is both turning on the main spindle and rigid tapping on the sub because the sub is chasing it It's like you watch that you just mind blown like crazy stuff Yeah, that may have been one of the craziest things I've ever seen. Yep. I agree. I
00:21:57
Speaker
And oh my god. I think they had that at IMTS, but we must have missed it or something.
Event Plans and Community Engagement
00:22:02
Speaker
I can't wait for IMTS again. I know. There's CMTS coming up in Toronto this September. So I'll be going to that for sure. Well, I'm going to PMTS in Columbus, Ohio in a few. Actually, by the time this airs, it's probably like a week or two away. But if anybody wants to come, I'll be at the Precision Machining Technology Show in Columbus, Ohio. Yeah, you went last year, right? I think I went two years ago. I don't know if it skips a year or whether I just skipped it last year.
00:22:29
Speaker
Yeah, those shows are crazy though. Nothing's like IMTS though. I mean, don't, I'm excited for PMTS, but I think I'm excited for IMTS because I, you know, remember you and I had that conversation outside of the knocker or no at, well, who's your distributor methods or LA of Metzora? LA Metzora.
00:22:47
Speaker
I feel like we were just talking about where we were in life and what we were doing in the road ahead. And I feel like that whole conversation is now even different. And that was only five months ago. Yeah. Well, you have a Haas now and you didn't then. And that's a big thing. It was a big thing. What's on tap today? Today, first thing, I'm finishing up a fixture for my surface grinder.
00:23:16
Speaker
Oh. So all these new handles that we're getting for the rasks, we decided to save a significant chunk of money by not having them double-disc'd. Oh. I thought double-disc was cheap. It can be cheap, but the lead time is a lot, and we don't have the time right now to be out of parts. Yeah, yeah.
00:23:36
Speaker
So yeah, we've got 200 rask knives in material now, but they're way too thick. So I want one side of them to be flat, like not optically flat, but at least flat enough to lay on a fixture without warping or bowing or anything like that. Yeah, so I made a steel fixture that's got six pockets in it for the handles with a little Mighty Bite cam action clamp.
00:23:58
Speaker
Cool. That's just going to hold them from moving and then we can suck the steel fixture onto the surface grinder and surface one side of the titanium handles because they're not magnetic obviously. Right. And then from there they can go onto the mill. Is this, I can't believe I'm saying this, is this the darn thing that you were band sawing last night with your Maury on Instagram?
00:24:24
Speaker
This is you, you are ridiculous. I don't know whether to commend you because you shouldn't buy a tool if you don't need it and use it or to just, just completely chew and chew into you for using adaptive slotting as a way to cut raw material. Yeah. Well, it worked out. Oh, it worked out great. And it's something I do so infrequently that, uh, yep. Although I just realized as we're talking this, as we're talking about this, that I,
00:24:55
Speaker
either need to make another fixture, which sucks, or I did this one wrong. What? Because I put six pockets on it for the, let's say, the left side of the handle, but I really should have put three left and three right. Right. Can you make it double-sided? Yeah, I was just thinking about that. I might be able to do that, and then you just flip it over and... Okay. Yeah, I'll just cut the other side. Same thing.
00:25:19
Speaker
Right? Yeah, that won't be too hard. Okay, done. Sweet. We're working with Peter's Heat Treat on some stuff again, and I don't know them from Adam. I probably sent them seven jobs in the last year or two, small jobs.
00:25:35
Speaker
And it's interesting because there's this kind of like, I have this mindset in life where it's like you're always selling. You're always selling yourself on, in this case, even though they're a vendor. So in theory, somebody could argue that they're selling their services to me, but I'm like, no, I have to sell them on why they should help me. In other words, not just send in a PO with a part and have it come back, but have them become invested in the process with me. And it's been so helpful because it's just, and I want to figure out how to do a chip break video on it because
00:26:05
Speaker
I don't know that it's always easy to articulate, but it has to do with showing them that you're real and you're a good customer and what you're having them understand what you're trying to do and why it's something that they should care enough about to have. I really only mean an eight minute conversation, but an eight minute conversation with a guy who's done this for 20 years is so valuable. And we talked about all these different processes. I even called you about asking you about some of your processes, trying to just
00:26:33
Speaker
be an entrepreneur which is tap into your network to get smart. But I guess what I'm trying to say is too often I see people who are greedy or overzealous and they take advantage of that too quickly and they basically become annoying. They call and they want to talk and it's all me, me, me and you help me. You've got to figure out how to make it a two-way street there.
00:26:56
Speaker
And obviously I have nothing to offer Peter T. Tree other than business, but making yourself different than the other customers that call in so that you build a relationship. It's like what we talked about, just building a relationship. Adding value in any way that you can. As I'm dealing with Linda for the grinding wheel, the value I can add is the experience I'm learning throughout the process and taking a quick video of how I'm using it and this is a new application for them, et cetera, et cetera. They're excited about the project.
00:27:28
Speaker
Exactly, I didn't even think about this. That is exactly the perfect, you are invested in it, she's invested in you, you've like, it's such a good example. That becomes a good partnership when both people are excited about the project and the result that you're trying to achieve.
00:27:44
Speaker
Right. And it's so easy as an entrepreneur or just as a guy who's busy to get tunnel vision. And remember, Linda doesn't have a clue. I mean, you shirt, Grimsmen Knives. They make knives. But she doesn't understand who you are. But she will when she sees your iterative process and how you get invested into it and what you're trying to do. And then I saw her video of me.
00:28:06
Speaker
talking and being open and honest and sharing things and now she knows me. It's like, it's better than a phone conversation. It's, you know, it's almost one-on-one. A similar thing with, you know, Ellie, I've met Sarah from my lathe. I'm invested in them and they're invested in me for, you know, they want to see me succeed. They want to see what I'm working on. They want to come to the shop and like see the parts that I'm making. And they think it's so awesome. I don't really have that with DMG Mori. It's more just like, you know, money changing hands kind of thing.
00:28:33
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Yeah, no, it's funny. I've gotten to know the Haas AE. He's pretty sharp. He's pretty good. We talked to each other, and he's helped me out with some things. And then he was like, hey, I got to go judge a high school state championship for machining. How freaking cool is that?
00:28:52
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And he's like, you want to come along as a judge. He's like, Haas normally does it all, but we always look for some people that can help balance it out or whatever. I was like, dude, are you kidding me? Like, absolutely. And it got me actually thinking about a good video to do, which is like, I don't know, 10 ways to give back or 10 ways to pay it forward as a entrepreneur business or machinist or whatever you want to call it, CNC guru.
00:29:16
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So we're gonna go up in a couple weeks to Columbus and I guess judge that company. That's awesome. Yeah, I was excited. That's super cool And it's cool like I'm doing it cuz obviously I love it and it's a good chance to you know We're gonna drive up together spend more time in the car together, but it's like I'm not just a customer anymore to them Yeah, I mean, it's it's more than that which I that's that's valuable for both parties Yeah, yeah Fantastic what do you up to today then?
00:29:45
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Running the service grinder for the first time, we ground in a part just to test out a few weeks ago, but we didn't have the coolant set up.
Exploring Surface Grinding and Open House Announcement
00:29:53
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And yesterday we got it all done. That company Reynolds Machinery that sells them is servicing it for us. And it was the same sort of story. It was so awesome. Their service tech, who's just such a solid guy, came in, figured out this one little found that was sticky. He had the confidence to tear into it.
00:30:14
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It's now working automatically on the Z plunge. So it kicks out, sparks out, this is a 1982 machine. There's a single circuit board in it and it can still automatically plunge down to your zero. When it gets to zero, it can spark out however many times you have the dial set. And when it gets to that last spark out and it's done, it parks the table off the part. All mechanically. Holy cow. I'll show it to you in here for the open house. It's freaking.
00:30:39
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Awesome. So we got the coolant plumbed up last night. It's working. So I'm gonna Jared's got a part on the Haas. I want to check before we hit run because it's a big To 34 inch long part. I want to check it and then I'm gonna go grind apart. That's fantastic I can't wait to see a video on it one day
00:30:57
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Yeah, I'm nervous about we're still using the used wheel that came with the machine. And I really don't like that because I have no idea what I'm doing. Like, I have no idea how to evaluate if I get good or bad results because I don't even know what the wheel is. Yeah. Everyone says to buy a Norton 46H. And they're not actually that expensive, but I'm nervous because I don't really know how to balance a grinding wheel. So I got to get some on that. Yeah, there's lots of information out there. I'm sure Suburban Tool has about 14 videos on it.
00:31:27
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Yeah, that's true. What size wheel is it? 7 inch or bigger? 2 inch by 12 inch. 2 inch wide? 5 inch arbor, 2 inches wide, and 12 inches. That's no tormach surface grinder, huh?
00:31:43
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There is not a small machine. Wow, that's awesome. I can't wait to see it at the Open House. Speaking of which, quick, announce the Open House. We haven't said that on the podcast yet. Great point. So Saturday, May 6, the annual NYC CNC Open House, we are welcoming anybody and everybody. You can RSVP at nyccnc.com. There will be a link at the top to the Open House.
00:32:08
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And the idea this year is a little bit different if you happen to have come in the past few years. Instead of just having an open format where you can come and hang out and talk and meet other people like John Grimsmo, we're going to do a series of clinics this year. So stay tuned. We'll announce it more formally here. Actually, it will already be out on the NYC CNC YouTube channel by the time this podcast airs. But we're going to have, I think,
00:32:32
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10 or 15 different of these little clinics. So like John Grimson I was going to be doing three different, excuse me, three of the same knife making clinics where he's going to talk for 10, 20, 30 minutes, then answer some questions. And so the idea is each clinic will repeat a few times. So hopefully you can kind of pick the few that you are interested in and be able to make it to all of them. Yeah. Yeah. I saw the roster. It looks like a cab cam stuff, uh, surfaces. Uh, I don't know.
00:33:00
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Yeah, Robin Renzetti is going to do a talk on how to dress surface grinding wheels. Adam Booth is going to talk about dialing and four jaw chucks. Mr. Pete Tubal Cane is going to actually make an appearance, which is I think his first public one, which is pretty cool. James Kilroy is going to do an intro to hand scraping. We've got a
00:33:18
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hand scraper and a Biax power scraper where you'll be able to see that and maybe that might be the only one where we're going to allow participants or attendees to actually use the tool. We can't let people use blades and grinders at the show for obvious reasons, but I'm really excited. That's fantastic. Yeah. And I'm going to bring the wife and kids down too. So excited. That's going to be great. Yeah. Awesome. Oh, we'll crush it. Sounds good. Have a great day. I'll see you. Bye. Take care.