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NFL 2023 - Week 11
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Bears v Lions in real life. Bob v Mack in fantasy. You already know a bet is brewing. Join Mack and Bob as they break down every matchup for week eleven of the 2023 NFL season.
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Thanksgiving and Holiday Banter
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It's the most wonderful time of the year.
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No.
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It's Thanksgiving.
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Let's dive right in.
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Go!
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Welcome back to Making Waves, an NFL confidence pool podcast.
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I'm your host, Mac.
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And I'm your stunned host, Bob.
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I could not allow you to get away with singing Christmas music, even for the Thanksgiving intro.
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I knew you were going to pivot, but I wasn't having it.
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I was about to bring that right back into Thanksgiving, and I couldn't even finish my one stanza of that song.
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What the heck?
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Okay, tell us what you were going to say.
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No, I guess we'll never know.
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It was going to be so witty and so perfect, and I was going to tie it right back into Thanksgiving, and then I was going to give you a special prize, too, and a big gift.
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Oh, shoot, shoot.
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You really shot yourself in the foot on that one.
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I got to say, though, that let's dive right in.
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That's pretty powerful.
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I feel powerful.
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Doesn't it feel good?
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You've had a power position this whole time that I haven't been aware of.
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Don't get used to it because I definitely need to snag it back next time we have the episode.
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I don't know.
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We'll see.
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It's a pretty good feeling, isn't it?
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It's a great feeling.
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Man, you need to start the episode off and write it in the music.
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It's perfect.
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I got to say it when else I'm going to be all off.
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Let's dive right in.
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Go.
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Okay, good.
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Now I'm back.
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Now I'm feeling good.
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He's ready.
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He's ready for the podcast now.
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And we can look forward to week 11.
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And I got to say something to the fans because Mac loves to pump the chest and say, no Christmas left for Thanksgiving.
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But I guess this is also just a testament to you as a wife.
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But
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I'm going to expose Mac now just because she was just so high and mighty about stopping my Christmas carol.
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But I'm sitting here in my apartment in Chicago, no Christmas tree up yet.
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I'm probably going to wait a week or two to get it up, which might be a little too late on my standards.
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But I got a really great Snapchat from Nick, our great special guest host from last week, and as we know, Mac's wife, of them putting up their Christmas tree.
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And it was all prim and proper up in the apartment last week.
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weekend.
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So it was, you might like to pretend that she doesn't love Christmas.
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Maybe she just loves her wife so much.
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She is putting up with Christmas, but it's that one.
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It's the latter.
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He's got the Christmas tree up.
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So it is up.
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It is up.
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We're trying to enjoy it.
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I think I maybe am enjoying it a little more this year than, than other years.
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Cause we're going on a big trip as we talked about last, last week.
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So getting very excited for that.
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So maybe I'm just more in the spirit this year.
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I don't know.
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Hey, staying away from the family drama, I'm all for it.
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You just seem lighter.
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Something's lighter about you.
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Something is lighter.
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Just a weight off the shoulders.
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We're just going to go gallivant around Europe and hey, Christmas can't be bad then, you know?
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Man, the never-ending doom as you're getting closer, knowing that you're going to be with Aunt Sue and Uncle Jim.
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Aunt Sue's probably going to light something on fire, get a little drunk.
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I got that coming up.
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You've just got all of Central Europe just gleaming in front of you with you and the wife on a nice romantic Christmas getaway.
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There is something light about that.
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And yeah, I recommend to all, just go take a trip for Christmas.
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You know what?
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Maybe I will.
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Nance, Linz, Dad.
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See ya.
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Maybe I'm going to take a trip.
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Peace.
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Peace.
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No, totally recommend it.
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But before that, we have, you know, other family engagements like next week, Thanksgiving, which obviously as Bob was going to supposedly start talking about in his intro was a nod to Thanksgiving.
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And the reason for that is because we will likely not be recording a podcast next week.
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I'll be traveling back to Michigan from North Carolina soon.
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Bob will be traveling back to Michigan from Chicago.
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So lots of travel going on.
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Probably not enough time for recording a podcast, but there will be plenty of time to watch the Detroit Lions win a Thanksgiving game after eating and stuffing our faces with turkey.
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And I'm excited for that.
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Wait, the game starts at 1130.
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You're going to be eating before then?
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What the heck?
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Well, maybe, maybe.
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Maybe not turkey, but I actually eat the day of Thanksgiving before dinner as well, even though some of us, Bob, are not allowed to eat until like 10 p.m.
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Must be nice.
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There's three NFL games I'm not going to eat until probably halftime of the third.
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So that's going to stink.
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All right, fine.
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I'll be full on beer and other snacks and little appies, you know.
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You know what?
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Maybe I'll just say, screw it and just start hitting the white claws or the high noons at my mom's place and say, mom, I'm going to be drunk if you don't let me eat.
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And Ann Sue and Emmy and all of them are not going to be happy.
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So maybe I'll push her hand a little bit and see if she sticks to her word of not letting her eat.
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They'll be forced to give you some food, a little something to soak up the alcohol there.
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Okay.
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And if she gets mad, I'll say, Mac told me to do it.
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So I like this plan.
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Perfect.
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Throw me under the bus.
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I won't be there.
Podcast Break Announcement & NFL Confidence Pool
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Okay, great.
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She'll probably text you and say, what the hell?
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But okay, this is going to be a good Thanksgiving.
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All right.
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Well, yes, either way, we will not be here next week.
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This week, we're only going to cover these upcoming weekend of games.
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I know sometimes we do two weeks at a time, three weeks at a time.
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Don't worry, that will be coming later on down the line for Christmas chaos.
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We may have to do three weeks at a time because I'll be in Europe for two of them.
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So we may have to do three weeks at a time.
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It's going to be chaos.
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It's going to be Christmas time.
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And I'm looking forward to that.
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I forgot about Christmas cast.
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I can't wait.
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I know until then though, we're just going to keep rolling with the regular week schedule.
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So we'll only focus on this week, but just something to note that we will not be back next until two weeks from now after Thanksgiving.
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Absolutely.
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We're going to miss you.
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I know you all are obviously going to miss us.
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And for our European fans out in Norway and Scandinavia, Thanksgiving is a holiday that is celebrated in the United States.
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So that's why we will not be recording next week.
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Right, right.
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Thank you.
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Thank you for sharing that.
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Yes.
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Of course.
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Wanted to make sure that they were on the same page as us.
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That little historical context.
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I appreciate that.
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Of course.
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Yep, yep.
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Just wanted to make sure that all the Wave Riders were in the know.
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Absolutely.
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I sometimes forget we have international fans and we're basically, you know, world-renowned.
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We're worldwide for sure.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Well, with all that being said, we're going to look ahead to this week.
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But before we do, we're going to look back at how we are doing in Conference Pool League, as well as the Waffle House Challenge.
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Yes, we are.
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Okay.
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So with the confidence pool league, we still cannot get the Bucco Bucs.
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So we're struggling a little yet.
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See?
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Yeah, that's a big caveat.
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I was texting Mac earlier this week, and we're very good around the holidays.
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Historically, the last couple of years, we've gotten the Bucco Bucs multiple times in late November into December.
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So we saved the best for last, and we haven't been too close the last couple of weeks, but
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You know, we're not worrying about it.
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So last week, as I said, as I alluded to, good word, we did not win the Bucca Bucs.
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We missed, I'm counting right now because I'm actually looking at the app.
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I'm kind of going off the cuff.
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I got my face, pants on my ankle.
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Whoops.
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We missed one, two, three, four, five.
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Oh my gosh, that's four in a row.
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Six, so we missed...
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Jets at one, seven.
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So we missed Jets at one.
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We missed Bills for 13 on Monday night.
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I don't know what's going on in Buffalo.
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It ain't good.
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We missed the Falcons for seven, the Ravens for 10.
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That was a absolute doozy of a game that killed us.
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We missed the Jags for two, the Titans for three, the Bengals for eight.
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So we missed a lot of games.
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We finished at 61, which is actually respectable in the league.
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It was kind of right in the middle of the road and we finished 16.
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15 points behind the eventual winner chip shot, my dad, which is his second win already.
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He's gotten the Bugo Bucks twice.
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So I'm starting to get a little ticked off with him.
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I guess the apple falls pretty far from the tree, huh?
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No kidding.
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What the heck?
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I guess I'm not his son apparently.
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I would have thought his son might have a little bit of insight into how to get these wins if chip shots winning all this, all this time.
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Apparently, once you retire, you just have all this time on your hands and he must be doing hella research because chip shot is just killing it.
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Shout out to you, dad.
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I know you're obviously listening in.
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Yeah.
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Teach us your ways.
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Let us know.
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Otherwise, I'm going to start getting pissed and your Christmas present is not going to be good this year.
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So watch out.
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And overall, we are now 13th out of 27.
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We are at 793 points.
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And the overall leader is at, where is it?
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This was not good planning by yours truly.
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It sounds like we're out of it.
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13th place.
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I think we should just focus on the week-to-week wins at this point rather than the overall.
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I like that.
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We're out of it.
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So we're going to be throwing a lot of Hail Mary's moving forward.
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We're going to be making a lot of strong moves to the paint.
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And I promise you right now, not only is this episode going to be under an hour, but the hooligans will be winning the Bucco Bucks at least once.
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Oh, gosh.
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Don't put those two things into the same sentence because we all know what happens with the first one.
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We will be under an hour, and we will win one Bucca Bucs at least before December 25th.
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And if one doesn't happen, the other can't.
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Okay, well, we better keep things moving along.
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I won't spend too much time on the Waffle House Challenge because nothing changed.
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Bob and I chose two separate or two different last week.
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We had Nick judge them.
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Unfortunately, we pushed a little too hard for the wrong game because I got the one right, the 49ers over the Jags, which obviously
Bears vs. Lions Rivalry & Hot Wings Bet
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Bob was able to persuade Nick to choose the Jags.
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And Bob got the Raiders over the Jets right.
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And obviously I was able to persuade Nick to go with the Jets.
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So we pushed a little too hard on the wrong game.
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Unfortunately, canceling each other out.
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then canceling out for the Waffle House Challenge.
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So I'm still three behind.
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I was one possession away from being down only one game in the Waffle House Challenge.
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And I was excited.
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I thought that I had it in the bag.
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And so it's pretty unfortunate.
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But hopefully this week, this week, I know for sure I'm going to get one game right.
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So I'm hopeful that the other one will come through.
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That's funny you say that because I'm also really sure that I'm going to get at least one game this week.
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And are we mad at Nick?
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Are we mad at Nick about- We're not because it was us that persuaded her the wrong way.
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Oh, okay.
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Okay, let me delete the text that I just sent her.
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Shoot, that was not a nice text.
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If you don't mind undoing it because how is she to know?
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We were the ones pushing her so hard to choose.
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I forgot that we were pressuring her to choose the wrong team.
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So let me- Oh, geez, it says send it.
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That's on us.
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So take a look in the mirror, Bob.
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Slow it down a little bit.
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And yeah, we'll see what happens with the Waffle House challenge.
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It's coming down to the wire.
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There's only a few weeks left for me to make a move.
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So be prepared, folks.
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Things are going to start getting wild.
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It says text red and Nikki has three bubbles.
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She's texting back.
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Oh, geez.
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Shoot.
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Well, good luck to you.
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She'll be home before too long.
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Maybe she'll come storming in here and have some words for you on this podcast.
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But we won't wait for that.
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We'll jump in because we have to get under an hour.
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So that way we for sure can win the Bucco Bucks this year.
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Good luck at all.
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We're going to look ahead to week 11.
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We have four teams on a bye this week.
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We have the Atlanta Falcons, the Indianapolis Colts, the New England Patriots, and the New Orleans Saints are all on a bye.
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So 14 games to get through.
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Kicking it off.
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Thursday night, 7.15 p.m., we have the Cincinnati Bengals at Baltimore Ravens.
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And for me, this was a little bit lower on the confidence spectrum, specifically because the Ravens just lost this past weekend to the Browns in a close matchup.
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They let up a pretty strong lead, which was unfortunate.
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The Ravens have been on an absolute tear today.
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But the Bengals also, unfortunately, got a loss this past weekend.
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So things are not looking great all the way around.
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But ultimately, I am going to stick with the hot hand.
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Despite this last week, the Ravens have just been plowing over teams.
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It is in Baltimore.
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So I'm going to go with the Ravens Thursday night at the confidence level of two.
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Oh, so close to a ding-dilly-ding-ding-ding-ding-ding to start the week.
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Yes, I think this is going to be a very close game.
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It's a divisional matchup.
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And as Mac alluded to, good word.
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Both teams lost very close games last weekend.
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And side note, what a letdown from last Thursday night game to this Thursday night game.
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Bears-Panthers in Chicago compared to Bengals-Ravens in Baltimore.
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Bengals-Ravens is just poop.
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That should have been the one that Nick said that was a worse primetime game than the Panthers-Bears.
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Yeah, I mean, she said Texans-Niners, which also would have been a worse game than Bears-Panthers.
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But this is just a letdown.
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I don't know if I'll watch it.
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because it's just so much more terrible than last week.
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But I do agree with Mac.
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I think the Ravens being at home are going to bounce back.
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I think they're too good to lose two in a row.
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This is tough, though, because I also thought the Bengals, they totally hit their stride.
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I also would have said they are too good to lose two in a row.
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But in a battle between Burrow and Lamar, I'm sorry, Mr. Jackson.
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Nice.
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You hit that.
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I think that...
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The home field advantage, Edgar Allen Poe, Baltimore night game is just going to be the deciding factor in a really close game.
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I have the Ravens and I have them at three.
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So pretty similar to my co-host there.
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Right.
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Top of the division, bottom of the division of the AFC North.
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You'd think it'd be maybe a little bit more confidence because it's first place and fourth place.
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But that division is shaping up to arguably be the most competitive.
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So it'll be fun to see.
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Fun to see for sure.
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Agreed.
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Quick and easy.
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We're moving on to Sunday at 1 o'clock p.m.
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To start us off, we have the Pittsburgh Steelers at
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Cleveland Browns.
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And I apologize.
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I did not do an injury report this week.
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The biggest one, because it is really only one for the Cleveland Browns, Deshaun Watson is going to undergo season ending surgery, a bit of a surprise.
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I know he's been having, you know, a couple of different injuries, but I didn't see anything super flagrant to, to make us think that there was going to be this drastic injury or season ending thing.
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So I think it's been a little bit of a surprise for people, but yeah,
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Yeah, he is unfortunately out moving forward.
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And that needs to be taken into consideration as we look at this Sunday game.
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I would have to agree.
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I, if Deshaun, oh my God, I just blew up my candle.
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I can very breathe right now.
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If Deshaun Watson wouldn't have gotten hurt and been taken out of the game, obviously out for the season, I absolutely, just a caveat out there, would have gone with Cleveland.
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They have been playing better than maybe anybody in the entire NFL.
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Had an unbelievable come-from-behind win against Cleveland.
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first place Ravens last week, and they've just been kind of beating the hell out of everybody recently.
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So Browns, tough loss.
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Obviously, we're not going to shed any tears for Deshaun for obvious reasons.
00:16:00
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But City of Cleveland, that's tough.
00:16:02
Speaker
They've been through the ringer just like a couple other fan bases recently.
00:16:07
Speaker
But you know what?
00:16:07
Speaker
That's football.
00:16:08
Speaker
It's a contact sport, and that's how it be.
00:16:11
Speaker
So with that being said, I mean, the Steelers just –
00:16:15
Speaker
They're not a solid team.
00:16:37
Speaker
But they got another close win, and they're sitting at 6-3.
00:16:40
Speaker
I would give up my left pinky for the Bears to be 6-3.
00:16:44
Speaker
So something's working.
00:16:46
Speaker
I think it's because of Tomlin.
00:16:48
Speaker
The defense is always great.
00:16:49
Speaker
TJ Watt, Studd, Najee Harris, and Warren are a really good one-two punch.
00:16:55
Speaker
Kind of like Warren and Najee at this point.
00:16:57
Speaker
But I just think with the Browns starting, the guy at UCLA, Dorian Thompson,
00:17:05
Speaker
is going to be a deciding factor.
00:17:07
Speaker
It doesn't have much, much time to prepare with the first team offense.
00:17:10
Speaker
So I'm going with Steelers and I'm going with them at a confidence of foe for ding, ding, ding, ding.
00:17:21
Speaker
Yeah, baby.
00:17:21
Speaker
We have our very first team.
00:17:27
Speaker
match there.
00:17:28
Speaker
I am also going with the Steelers.
00:17:29
Speaker
I am also going with them at four.
00:17:31
Speaker
I also was going to go with the Browns before the Deshaun Watson news, but ultimately, like you said, we got to go to Steelers here.
00:17:37
Speaker
And actually they already beat them once in the season with Deshaun Watson.
00:17:41
Speaker
So hopefully they will, they will do it again here for week 11.
00:17:46
Speaker
I hope so.
00:17:47
Speaker
And I just realized, look at that, the first four teams on the list are the AFC North.
00:17:52
Speaker
Who would have thunk it?
00:17:53
Speaker
Who would have thunk it?
00:17:54
Speaker
AFC North.
00:17:56
Speaker
Yeah, definitely.
00:17:57
Speaker
Definitely an interesting
00:17:59
Speaker
Weekend for that division, for sure.
00:18:02
Speaker
Absolutely.
00:18:03
Speaker
It's going to be really, really special.
00:18:05
Speaker
So, yeah, without further ado, we got a big game to talk about coming up here.
00:18:09
Speaker
Oh, we got a big game.
00:18:11
Speaker
I was so glad when I saw it was third on the list.
00:18:13
Speaker
I knew right away it was going to be my game.
00:18:16
Speaker
I know that Bob will have some things to say, obviously.
00:18:20
Speaker
But this weekend, week 11, folks, 1 o'clock p.m.
00:18:24
Speaker
on Sunday, 12 for Bob.
00:18:26
Speaker
The Chicago bears taking on the Detroit lions or attempting at least.
00:18:34
Speaker
Hey, that's sick.
00:18:35
Speaker
Don't be sick.
00:18:37
Speaker
I gotta say, I have had a bet brewing since before the season started for our boys.
00:18:44
Speaker
And I want to make that very clear that this was before the season started.
00:18:48
Speaker
I have text to prove it if need be.
00:18:51
Speaker
I've been talking to Bob about, you know, dropping some hints about things that are spicy related to this bet.
00:18:58
Speaker
And I want to make that clear that it was before because I think now that the season has gone on a little bit, we're seeing maybe a slight discrepancy between the two teams.
00:19:07
Speaker
You know, one is maybe a little better than the others.
00:19:10
Speaker
Mm-mm.
00:19:11
Speaker
So I want to make that clear that I didn't make this up knowing Bob would get this punishment.
00:19:17
Speaker
Now I truly do believe he's going to get this punishment.
00:19:20
Speaker
So it makes it even better, but I don't want to count my chickens before they hatch.
00:19:25
Speaker
Why are you so giddy right now?
00:19:28
Speaker
Oh, because I'm just excited to reveal the bat.
00:19:30
Speaker
And I want to say side up real quick.
00:19:31
Speaker
I have no idea what this is for the wave writers.
00:19:33
Speaker
I have not heard this yet.
00:19:35
Speaker
With all that being said, my thought originally was going to be for the Chicago Bears at Detroit Lions, both games.
00:19:45
Speaker
So the Bears at Lions and Lions at Bears.
00:19:48
Speaker
They will play each other again in three weeks from now, I believe.
00:19:52
Speaker
Pretty close.
00:19:54
Speaker
My initial bet was if one of our teams won two of those, both of them, then the other would have to participate in this losing punishment.
00:20:05
Speaker
And I'm just curious, have you ever heard of that?
00:20:07
Speaker
It's like a YouTube show.
00:20:08
Speaker
It's called The Hot Ones.
00:20:11
Speaker
Yes, I've heard of the hot ones.
00:20:12
Speaker
You have.
00:20:13
Speaker
Okay.
00:20:14
Speaker
So for anybody who hasn't, basically it's this show on YouTube.
00:20:18
Speaker
I haven't like ever seen a full thing, but I've seen clips of it.
00:20:21
Speaker
And they invite celebrities on and they work their way through different levels of spice of hot wings.
00:20:28
Speaker
And while they're eating the hot wings, they have to eat the full wing and they have to answer questions.
00:20:33
Speaker
Like they're supposedly like hot questions, like hot topic questions.
00:20:37
Speaker
So my thought was we do kind of a play on that.
00:20:40
Speaker
And whoever loses has to go through hotter stages of chicken wings while recording the podcast.
00:20:53
Speaker
Yeah, I absolutely love the idea.
00:20:56
Speaker
If you have a counter bet, I would be open to hearing it.
00:21:00
Speaker
I don't.
00:21:02
Speaker
I am, I'm confident my team is going to win.
00:21:05
Speaker
I'm not overly confident though.
00:21:07
Speaker
So I haven't been to, I feel like you, you know, for the last little while have just probably been, and you did say this was before the season, but.
00:21:16
Speaker
I do have, I do have proof of that if needed.
00:21:20
Speaker
I've been thinking of this before the season.
00:21:23
Speaker
I absolutely trust that.
00:21:25
Speaker
I'm sure your mind has just been running rampant the last couple weeks, though, trying to add on little side pieces.
00:21:31
Speaker
Because the odds of me doing this are probably pretty high.
00:21:34
Speaker
But, I mean, I love it.
00:21:35
Speaker
I love it.
00:21:36
Speaker
I was going to offer one more sidebar to make it slightly more even, if you want.
00:21:42
Speaker
Oh, please.
00:21:42
Speaker
Please do.
00:21:43
Speaker
So, in addition to the Bears playing the Lions this weekend, Bob and I actually also play each other in fantasy football.
00:21:52
Speaker
Yes, we do.
00:21:53
Speaker
Bob is currently number one in the league.
00:21:56
Speaker
I'm currently number two.
00:21:58
Speaker
I plan on being number one after this week because we will then have a tied record.
00:22:03
Speaker
I will have won the head-to-head, and I will have more points that my team has scored overall.
00:22:09
Speaker
So I would then come first if I win this weekend.
00:22:12
Speaker
But with all that being said, I was thinking that instead of –
00:22:18
Speaker
a team having to win both.
00:22:21
Speaker
So the lions would have to win both or the bears would have to win both.
00:22:24
Speaker
If we did best of three, including the fantasy game as well.
00:22:29
Speaker
So as if you win, if the bears win even one and you in fantasy, then I would have to do it.
00:22:37
Speaker
And then vice versa.
00:22:39
Speaker
Yes.
00:22:39
Speaker
Okay.
00:22:40
Speaker
I would have been good with just Lions Bears, but this is great.
00:22:43
Speaker
I will obviously accept this.
00:22:45
Speaker
I would have accepted the without the little side area.
00:22:48
Speaker
So I appreciate the bone that you threw me there.
00:22:52
Speaker
Yes, I accept.
00:22:54
Speaker
And I guess, excuse me, I guess this is good too, because even if we split.
00:22:59
Speaker
Yeah, then there's no tiebreaker.
00:23:01
Speaker
There's no way to tie.
00:23:04
Speaker
Right, and I was going to say, I mean, it'll be decided in only a couple weeks anyways because I think it's like December 10th when they play here in Chicago.
00:23:11
Speaker
I think it's going to be decided this weekend because Justin Fields is back, my team is stacked, and I'm feeling really, really good.
00:23:17
Speaker
If the Bears win this weekend and I lose in fantasy, I am going to be crying for Mama.
00:23:23
Speaker
Don't cry for Mama.
00:23:24
Speaker
Don't cry for Mama.
00:23:25
Speaker
But I have a feeling that it might be the opposite.
00:23:29
Speaker
I have a feeling I might win both this weekend.
00:23:31
Speaker
It could be decided.
00:23:33
Speaker
I'd say the odds makers would probably agree with you more so than me, but my team's got Hart, the fantasy, and the one on the field, and I'm feeling good about it.
00:23:42
Speaker
So just so I'm clear, if one of us loses both this week, are we doing like the hot ones like packet?
00:23:50
Speaker
Because I've seen people order like the hot sauce stuff in the mail.
00:23:53
Speaker
So yeah, we're definitely going to have to make our own home version of it.
00:23:57
Speaker
So I had a couple thoughts for that.
00:23:59
Speaker
I don't know if you have a Buffalo Wild Wings near you.
00:24:03
Speaker
I do.
00:24:03
Speaker
There's one a couple blocks away.
00:24:06
Speaker
I had a thought that you could, you know, just purchase a couple of wings and get, I was thinking like four or five different levels of spice.
00:24:13
Speaker
So you'd obviously start like mild and then you'd go to like medium and hot up to like the hot, hot, hot.
00:24:20
Speaker
Yes.
00:24:21
Speaker
Like the, you mean like the tip, the tippy top?
00:24:23
Speaker
Well, you could just go the five consecutive stages.
00:24:26
Speaker
I would be fine with that.
00:24:28
Speaker
Okay.
00:24:30
Speaker
We'll discuss the specifics of it before this weekend.
00:24:33
Speaker
But that was my first thought because I also have Buffalo Wild Wings near me.
00:24:37
Speaker
Good.
00:24:38
Speaker
So you could just get a couple wings and of various spice levels and you would work your way up throughout the podcast.
00:24:44
Speaker
Okay.
00:24:44
Speaker
I like that.
00:24:45
Speaker
My other thought was if you wanted to just get like plain wings and go, I'm sure stores have like variety pack hot sauces.
00:24:54
Speaker
True.
00:24:55
Speaker
And you could just like dip it in there.
00:24:56
Speaker
But I think that the Buffalo Wild Wings would be a little bit more challenging because the whole thing's covered.
00:25:02
Speaker
It's not just like a dip, you know?
00:25:03
Speaker
Exactly.
00:25:04
Speaker
And it would probably be a little less ratchet.
00:25:07
Speaker
And they're actual wings.
00:25:08
Speaker
So, yeah, I would vote on the Buffalo Wild Wings version of the bet there.
00:25:16
Speaker
Okay, fine by me.
00:25:17
Speaker
And yeah, I was thinking just like...
00:25:19
Speaker
Four or five different levels, and I'll let you agree to what you're comfortable with since you will potentially be the one doing this.
00:25:26
Speaker
I was going to say, you're saying a lot of what I'm going to be doing.
00:25:30
Speaker
Is there a Buffalo Wild Wings?
00:25:31
Speaker
And you did say there's one near you, so thank you for the- There is.
00:25:34
Speaker
Yep, there's one by me.
00:25:35
Speaker
I would be comfortable with four or five wings of various spice levels starting at mild.
00:25:42
Speaker
Yeah.
00:25:43
Speaker
Most of the people that are listening do know me and they know that my spice tolerance is zero.
00:25:50
Speaker
It's zero to negative.
00:25:51
Speaker
Maybe negative.
00:25:52
Speaker
I think it might be negative Scoville is what would get me.
00:25:55
Speaker
So yeah, I'd be good.
00:25:58
Speaker
I like to challenge myself.
00:25:59
Speaker
You put yourself out there with the donut thing last year and you really did it up and you were paying the price for about 48 hours.
00:26:06
Speaker
And I have a feeling you will be as well if this comes down to you.
00:26:11
Speaker
Man, good thing that my toilet and my sink all drain really well in there.
00:26:15
Speaker
It's a really good apartment and I won't have to worry about anything like that.
00:26:19
Speaker
So yeah, I would say four or five, but we'll lock in specifics before Sunday, obviously.
00:26:25
Speaker
All right, I'm going to say five.
00:26:26
Speaker
I'm going to say five.
00:26:27
Speaker
Five wings.
00:26:28
Speaker
Let's lock it in now.
00:26:29
Speaker
We'll say five.
00:26:30
Speaker
Locked in.
00:26:31
Speaker
Handshake.
00:26:32
Speaker
Five locked in.
00:26:32
Speaker
Handshake.
00:26:34
Speaker
This is going to be good.
00:26:35
Speaker
This is going to be good.
00:26:36
Speaker
I need my fantasy team to pick it up.
00:26:38
Speaker
I need Justin to pick it up.
00:26:39
Speaker
Okay.
00:26:39
Speaker
This is, this is good.
00:26:41
Speaker
I love it.
00:26:41
Speaker
I love it.
00:26:42
Speaker
Well, I am looking forward to the outcome this weekend.
00:26:45
Speaker
Obviously we will update you all after the Thanksgiving break, but pay attention, pay attention this week because if the Detroit lions win, then you'll know that max got a shot.
00:26:55
Speaker
If the bears win, you know, Bob's got a shot.
00:26:57
Speaker
So pay attention.
00:26:59
Speaker
To the game this weekend.
00:27:00
Speaker
Yes.
00:27:01
Speaker
Definitely stay tuned.
00:27:02
Speaker
We'll let you know.
00:27:02
Speaker
And this is for the best that we're not recording next week now, by the way, because can you imagine doing this on Wednesday and then having Thanksgiving ruined?
00:27:08
Speaker
No, no, no, no, no.
00:27:10
Speaker
So you will be doing this, obviously, the week after Thanksgiving if somebody wins.
00:27:14
Speaker
Yeah, or two weeks after.
00:27:15
Speaker
Whatever you're comfortable with with the bell bell.
00:27:18
Speaker
Or me.
00:27:19
Speaker
Me.
00:27:19
Speaker
Me.
00:27:20
Speaker
Whatever.
00:27:20
Speaker
If somebody wins.
00:27:21
Speaker
If somebody wins.
00:27:22
Speaker
Bad karma.
00:27:22
Speaker
Bad karma.
00:27:23
Speaker
She just ruined it for herself.
00:27:24
Speaker
She's screwed.
00:27:25
Speaker
Yes.
00:27:25
Speaker
Yes.
00:27:26
Speaker
Perfect.
00:27:27
Speaker
We'll update everybody, but I am looking forward to that.
00:27:30
Speaker
But either way, okay, I'm glad we agree on that.
00:27:32
Speaker
Yes.
00:27:33
Speaker
Now we can look at the game.
00:27:35
Speaker
I am extremely confident that the Lions are going to win this game.
00:27:40
Speaker
I apologize.
00:27:41
Speaker
Justin Fields is likely going to be back, I saw today, which is good news.
00:27:45
Speaker
That's a boost for the Bears for sure.
00:27:47
Speaker
Definitely some good news there.
00:27:51
Speaker
But I don't know.
00:27:54
Speaker
I feel like I am trying to simmer down my confidence because there's a lot on the line with the Wings.
00:27:58
Speaker
But I am extremely confident in this game.
00:28:02
Speaker
And my points show that.
00:28:05
Speaker
So I have no doubt the Lions are going to win.
00:28:08
Speaker
They're at home.
00:28:09
Speaker
They're in Detroit.
00:28:10
Speaker
They've been on fire lately, defensively, offensively.
00:28:13
Speaker
I just don't think the Bears are going to be able to slow us down.
00:28:16
Speaker
So...
00:28:18
Speaker
I'm looking forward to it.
00:28:19
Speaker
How confident are we talking?
00:28:20
Speaker
I'm just waiting for you to hit me with a 14.
00:28:22
Speaker
Double digits.
00:28:23
Speaker
Okay.
00:28:23
Speaker
Expected as I expected.
00:28:25
Speaker
Don't hit me with a 14.
00:28:27
Speaker
It's not a 14.
00:28:29
Speaker
I am confident in the Detroit Lions to win this weekend at a level of 11.
00:28:36
Speaker
Okay.
00:28:36
Speaker
The fact that you have three more that are more confident, I like that.
00:28:42
Speaker
I was trying to be nice.
00:28:43
Speaker
That was very nice.
00:28:45
Speaker
Yeah.
00:28:46
Speaker
Okay.
00:28:46
Speaker
11.
00:28:46
Speaker
I was waiting for a 14 or 13.
00:28:48
Speaker
So we'll take that.
00:28:49
Speaker
Yeah.
00:28:51
Speaker
I'll give it to you.
00:28:52
Speaker
I, I, uh, I got some egg all over my face and my pants are wrapped around my ankles.
00:28:56
Speaker
I did say on the podcast last week that lions had only beaten one team with a positive record.
00:29:03
Speaker
That is still the case because the chargers now are four or five, but the chargers are, that is still the case.
00:29:10
Speaker
That is still the case, but the chargers are obviously better than the record.
00:29:13
Speaker
They were a playoff team last year.
00:29:15
Speaker
And I think everybody would agree that they are going to be a fringe playoff team for the majority of the year.
00:29:20
Speaker
And no one would be surprised if they beat the chiefs or they beat another big team later, later down the road with that offense.
00:29:26
Speaker
So I will go out and say it was an impressive win.
00:29:29
Speaker
I will say though, there were some cracks.
00:29:33
Speaker
It was a super exciting game.
00:29:34
Speaker
That was one of the most fun games I've seen without any root and interest in a while.
00:29:39
Speaker
It was back and forth.
00:29:40
Speaker
And that was, that was one of the highlights of the NFL Sunday watching that game.
00:29:44
Speaker
That was,
00:29:44
Speaker
electric.
00:29:45
Speaker
So I can't imagine what you were doing during that second half, but the defense definitely was showing for the first time that I've seen the defense was showing some wounds, which I mean, there was, there were definitely some openings, especially against Keenan Allen.
00:29:58
Speaker
He is a, he is an absolute stud out there and super tall and we could not lock him down at all.
00:30:04
Speaker
So you're absolutely right.
00:30:06
Speaker
He's good, but they got so many weapons out there and it was in LA, but yeah,
00:30:10
Speaker
Yeah.
00:30:11
Speaker
Once again, Lions fans traveled.
00:30:12
Speaker
I saw a lot of Honolulu blue and two good colors, powder blue, Honolulu blue.
00:30:16
Speaker
So all that to say, I saw some cracks.
00:30:19
Speaker
The bears, obviously I was there on Thursday night and we looked rock solid.
00:30:22
Speaker
I mean, sorry, did you sneeze?
00:30:25
Speaker
Bless you.
00:30:25
Speaker
Yeah.
00:30:26
Speaker
Sorry.
00:30:27
Speaker
Sorry.
00:30:27
Speaker
Choking a little bit.
00:30:28
Speaker
Yeah.
00:30:29
Speaker
Don't worry.
00:30:30
Speaker
If you need to blow your nose, just, just meet yourself over there.
00:30:32
Speaker
But yeah, beating the Panthers, Bay Jints now two and two as a starter.
00:30:37
Speaker
I mean,
00:30:37
Speaker
Some might say that's goat status, but just a really, just a really.
00:30:42
Speaker
He's not playing this weekend.
00:30:43
Speaker
I know, but I'm just saying if he, if we can win with him, we can win with anyone.
00:30:46
Speaker
If you can find love in Ghana, you can find love anywhere.
00:30:49
Speaker
And yeah,
00:30:50
Speaker
I just feel like with Fields coming in, he's got so much to prove.
00:30:54
Speaker
The defense is really rocking and rolling, and we're on a one-game winning streak.
00:30:59
Speaker
And one more side note, the Bears on Thursday night are 2-0 this season.
00:31:03
Speaker
So NFL schedule makers.
00:31:05
Speaker
The Lions are also 2-0 on primetime.
00:31:09
Speaker
Wow, we're 4-0 on Thursday nights this year, Mac.
00:31:13
Speaker
But this game is not Thursday night.
00:31:14
Speaker
This game is Sunday.
00:31:16
Speaker
I know.
00:31:16
Speaker
I'm just, I'm trying to say all the positive things I can about my boys.
00:31:19
Speaker
It's in Detroit, which I would have been a lot more confident in the Bears if it was not in Detroit.
00:31:23
Speaker
Oh, please.
00:31:24
Speaker
But yeah, I think my Bears are going to march into the lion den.
00:31:28
Speaker
I think they're going to punch the Lions defense in the mouth.
00:31:32
Speaker
I think we're going to have a couple turnovers.
00:31:34
Speaker
And before you know it, the Lions are going to be on their heels.
00:31:37
Speaker
Eber Flus versus Dan Campbell, obviously he would win that fight.
00:31:40
Speaker
Bears versus the Lions, obviously he wins that fight or we win that fight.
00:31:43
Speaker
So I'm going to go with the Bears on this one, obviously.
00:31:46
Speaker
There's no way in hell I'm going with the Lions.
00:31:47
Speaker
This might be bad for the Waffle House challenge, but I'm going Bears and I'm going... Good for me.
00:31:51
Speaker
I'm going Bears and I'm going one.
00:31:54
Speaker
Okay, sounds good.
00:31:59
Speaker
And that was really good back and forth.
00:32:00
Speaker
I can't blame you for choosing the Bears.
00:32:03
Speaker
I really can't, but...
00:32:05
Speaker
Confidence pool wise, we're going with the Lions, right?
00:32:09
Speaker
No comment, but yes.
00:32:12
Speaker
Okay, perfect.
00:32:12
Speaker
That's all I needed to hear.
00:32:14
Speaker
Well, I am so excited, Bob.
00:32:15
Speaker
I'm so excited for a Lions win.
00:32:17
Speaker
I'm so excited for you to eat some spicy wings.
00:32:20
Speaker
And let's just move on to the next game.
00:32:22
Speaker
We've got the LA Chargers at Green Bay Packers.
00:32:27
Speaker
Well, Packers.
00:32:30
Speaker
But that was longer than I expected.
00:32:32
Speaker
Sorry.
00:32:33
Speaker
But yeah, it's like staying on the positive vibes.
00:32:37
Speaker
Packers are really bad this year.
00:32:38
Speaker
Packers are really... That is a positive vibe.
00:32:40
Speaker
That is one we can both agree on.
00:32:42
Speaker
Yes, Packers are super bad.
00:32:43
Speaker
They're 3-6.
00:32:44
Speaker
Bears are 3-7.
00:32:45
Speaker
So they're only a half game behind us.
00:32:48
Speaker
Yeah, Packers don't have much going for them.
00:32:50
Speaker
They are welcoming an electric offense, as we just alluded to, fourth of the episode.
00:32:54
Speaker
Awesome.
00:32:56
Speaker
And the Chargers are going to have no problem moving the ball on the Packers' defense.
00:33:00
Speaker
Herbert and Eckler and...
00:33:03
Speaker
Keenan Allen, as Mac just said, they're just going to feast on this weak Packers defense.
00:33:08
Speaker
So I'm not going to spend much time on this one.
00:33:09
Speaker
I love that the Packers are bad, and I love that they're playing the Chargers.
00:33:13
Speaker
I got the Chargers going into Lambeau, further depressing the Packers fans at a confidence level of 12.
00:33:21
Speaker
All right.
00:33:23
Speaker
Not too far off.
00:33:24
Speaker
Love to hear it.
00:33:25
Speaker
I'm also double digits.
00:33:27
Speaker
Woo.
00:33:28
Speaker
Keenan Allen is questionable.
00:33:30
Speaker
It looks like he did get a little banged up against my boys, but hopefully he did come back in and finish out the game.
00:33:35
Speaker
So hopefully he'll be able to be totally good after some rest this week.
00:33:39
Speaker
And either way, I still think they're going to win.
00:33:42
Speaker
I have them at 10.
00:33:44
Speaker
Okay.
00:33:44
Speaker
Double digits.
00:33:45
Speaker
I love it in Green Bay.
00:33:48
Speaker
Easy peasy.
00:33:48
Speaker
Love it.
00:33:49
Speaker
Love it.
00:33:50
Speaker
Love it.
00:33:51
Speaker
Love it.
00:33:52
Speaker
All right.
00:33:53
Speaker
We are looking ahead to the Las Vegas Raiders at Miami Dolphins.
NFL Game Previews: Dolphins, Commanders, and Cowboys
00:34:01
Speaker
And this one was pretty clear to me when I was looking at it.
00:34:06
Speaker
I mean, I know we've had some discussions about the Dolphins and also not having any wins against teams with a winning record.
00:34:13
Speaker
Lucky for us, Vegas is in the losing record category.
00:34:17
Speaker
So, well, I guess they're what, five and five.
00:34:20
Speaker
So I guess technically not, but I don't think they're in that category where the Dolphins are not going to be able to win.
00:34:27
Speaker
I'm pretty confident in the Dolphins to be able to win this game.
00:34:30
Speaker
It's at home in Miami.
00:34:33
Speaker
Obviously, there's been some different changes and turnover and things that have been happening with the Raiders.
00:34:38
Speaker
Their new coach is 2-0, so good for him.
00:34:41
Speaker
He's clearly making a little change there for the Raiders, but ultimately they're still working with a rookie quarterback that I think that as weeks go on, these teams are going to be able to figure out, create turnovers, create pressure.
00:34:53
Speaker
That's just going to be too much for him.
00:34:55
Speaker
And I think the Dolphins are going to be able to do that just fine this weekend.
00:34:58
Speaker
I've got this pretty high at 13.
00:35:00
Speaker
Ooh, ooh, lucky 13.
00:35:03
Speaker
Okay.
00:35:05
Speaker
Great analysis.
00:35:06
Speaker
And I agree.
00:35:07
Speaker
So I'm going to keep this one nice and tidy because we did promise under an hour and I'm sure we will deliver on that promise per usual.
00:35:14
Speaker
But yeah, I mean, dolphins are coming off their buy.
00:35:16
Speaker
They're healthy again.
00:35:19
Speaker
I actually think, well, I always forget how to pronounce it and I should not because he's a stud.
00:35:24
Speaker
A-chain?
00:35:25
Speaker
A-chain?
00:35:26
Speaker
Oh yeah.
00:35:28
Speaker
Devin, I know who you're talking about, but.
00:35:31
Speaker
Yes.
00:35:32
Speaker
Is it Devin?
00:35:32
Speaker
Devin A-chain?
00:35:33
Speaker
Devin A-chain?
00:35:35
Speaker
Yeah.
00:35:36
Speaker
I chain.
00:35:37
Speaker
I can't.
00:35:37
Speaker
Yeah.
00:35:37
Speaker
We'll go.
00:35:38
Speaker
I can't.
00:35:38
Speaker
They're running back.
00:35:39
Speaker
Who is a stud.
00:35:40
Speaker
Yeah.
00:35:41
Speaker
Yes.
00:35:41
Speaker
So now they got him and most are both healthy.
00:35:44
Speaker
Tyreek is on pace for like 2000 yards and yeah, the Raiders just played on Sunday night.
00:35:50
Speaker
So they have a short week from the Sunday night game to the Sunday early slate.
00:35:56
Speaker
And yeah, Raiders are definitely a feel good story after the lions absolutely turned their world upside down.
00:36:01
Speaker
They have locked it in and Anthony Pierce has had a great,
00:36:04
Speaker
first two games in his head coaching career.
00:36:07
Speaker
And that's why I sent him a bunch of swag and donations from our funding within the last week.
00:36:12
Speaker
Sorry about that.
00:36:13
Speaker
But yeah, I got the Dolphins as well.
00:36:15
Speaker
I got them pretty high and I got them at 11.
00:36:18
Speaker
Okay.
00:36:19
Speaker
Glad you didn't have too much analysis to add there.
00:36:22
Speaker
Yeah.
00:36:22
Speaker
Just, I don't know, just three or four minutes just to keep it, keep it tidy.
00:36:27
Speaker
Okay.
00:36:28
Speaker
Perfect.
00:36:29
Speaker
Moving ahead to the New York Giants at Washington Commanders.
00:36:34
Speaker
Yeah, this game kind of stinks.
00:36:38
Speaker
No need to rub it in to Eli and Amo and... Oh my God.
00:36:46
Speaker
Wait.
00:36:48
Speaker
Oh my God.
00:36:49
Speaker
I'm forgetting babies.
00:36:50
Speaker
No, don't.
00:36:51
Speaker
Oh my gosh.
00:36:53
Speaker
How dare you forget Ivy's name?
00:36:55
Speaker
Baby Ivy.
00:36:55
Speaker
Okay.
00:36:56
Speaker
See, I said it.
00:36:57
Speaker
She just edited it.
00:36:57
Speaker
So she said it before I said it, but yeah, Giants are down bad.
00:37:02
Speaker
They, I think they're not going to win a game the rest of the year.
00:37:05
Speaker
They're,
00:37:06
Speaker
They're in line for the number one pick.
00:37:08
Speaker
They are going to be challenging the Panthers for your number one pick that you're supposed to be getting, Bob.
00:37:13
Speaker
Thankfully, they've got two.
00:37:15
Speaker
The Panthers have got one.
00:37:16
Speaker
Hopefully, the Panthers hold at one because I think the Giants are going to hold it, too.
00:37:20
Speaker
They're at the bottom of the ocean, and they're shackled down there pretty good right now.
00:37:24
Speaker
I think they're going to be down there until 2024.
00:37:27
Speaker
And the commanders, I mean, they traded away their whole defensive line and they just went out and had a great win on Sunday.
00:37:34
Speaker
Feel good story for them.
00:37:36
Speaker
Did they actually win or did they came up?
00:37:39
Speaker
No, they came up just short against the Seahawks, didn't they?
00:37:42
Speaker
Oh, you're right.
00:37:42
Speaker
But they put up an absolute show against the Seahawks.
00:37:45
Speaker
They put up a show.
00:37:46
Speaker
But they did lose to a field goal.
00:37:48
Speaker
Yes, a last-second field goal out of like four last-second field goals in that afternoon window.
00:37:53
Speaker
But yeah, Commanders.
00:37:54
Speaker
The most on any NFL Sunday I saw was the most last-second field goals for the win of any NFL Sunday.
00:38:04
Speaker
Wow.
00:38:04
Speaker
Talk about a nugget.
00:38:05
Speaker
Talk about a nugget.
00:38:07
Speaker
And I actually got a nugget, too.
00:38:07
Speaker
Not a spicy one.
00:38:10
Speaker
None of us want any spicy nuggets.
00:38:11
Speaker
Thank God I won't have to worry about that for a long time.
00:38:14
Speaker
Mac, are you hungry?
00:38:14
Speaker
Because I got a little nugget for you.
00:38:16
Speaker
I am.
00:38:16
Speaker
What you got?
00:38:17
Speaker
Nom, nom, nom, nom, nom.
00:38:18
Speaker
Well... Nom, nom, nom.
00:38:21
Speaker
Sam Howell.
00:38:22
Speaker
Sam Howell.
00:38:22
Speaker
That really threw me off your nom, nom for some reason.
00:38:25
Speaker
Sam Howell.
00:38:25
Speaker
Is the top passer in the NFL.
00:38:28
Speaker
Are you kidding me?
00:38:30
Speaker
Nom, nom, nom.
00:38:31
Speaker
That was...
00:38:33
Speaker
Followed by CJ Stroud.
00:38:36
Speaker
She not only stole my intro, she just stole my only nugget for the entire episode.
00:38:40
Speaker
You can't do that.
00:38:42
Speaker
Rewind.
00:38:43
Speaker
Go ahead.
00:38:45
Speaker
Mac, are you hungry?
00:38:46
Speaker
Yes, I'm starving.
00:38:48
Speaker
Nom, nom, nom, nom, nom.
00:38:49
Speaker
Well.
00:38:49
Speaker
Let me guess.
00:38:50
Speaker
Sam Howell is the leading.
00:38:53
Speaker
So I'd like to hereby put in my resignation for making waves.
00:38:56
Speaker
It's been a great two and a half years, but this will be my life.
00:38:58
Speaker
We are accepting new applications for hosts.
00:39:02
Speaker
I'm not having any fun this episode.
00:39:04
Speaker
This is not a good episode for me.
00:39:07
Speaker
Sam Howell is leading the league in passing yards.
00:39:08
Speaker
Who would have thunk it?
00:39:09
Speaker
Nom, nom, nom, nom.
00:39:10
Speaker
Good nugget, Bob.
00:39:11
Speaker
Thank you.
00:39:12
Speaker
Unbelievable, I know.
00:39:13
Speaker
And who would have thunk it?
00:39:15
Speaker
So I think Sam is going to keep this role going.
00:39:20
Speaker
And I think he's going to pass all over this really terrible Giants defense.
00:39:25
Speaker
And that's why I have them winning at a confidence level of 10.
00:39:29
Speaker
And please never steal any of my nuggets again.
00:39:31
Speaker
Please and thank you.
00:39:32
Speaker
Okay, I'm sorry.
00:39:34
Speaker
I will not, especially not the nugget that was stolen from me that Mike Tomlin has never had a losing season record.
00:39:42
Speaker
No, no, no.
00:39:42
Speaker
That was my nugget.
00:39:44
Speaker
Oh, weird.
00:39:45
Speaker
Check the receipts.
00:39:47
Speaker
Oh, I will.
00:39:48
Speaker
I'll check the transcripts.
00:39:50
Speaker
Check the transcripts.
00:39:51
Speaker
Week two, it came right out of this mouthpiece here.
00:39:54
Speaker
Okay.
00:39:56
Speaker
All right.
00:39:57
Speaker
Well, yes, Washington Commanders, totally agree.
00:39:59
Speaker
I'm only one off from you, so very close to a ding-a-ling-ling-ling-ling.
00:40:04
Speaker
And I have them at nine.
00:40:06
Speaker
Wow.
00:40:06
Speaker
We are hemming.
00:40:07
Speaker
We are hawing.
00:40:08
Speaker
We are moving.
00:40:09
Speaker
We are grooving, baby.
00:40:10
Speaker
We sure are, and I have a feeling the next one is going to be an exact match.
00:40:14
Speaker
We have the Dallas Cowboys at Carolina Panthers.
00:40:18
Speaker
Speaking of the stinky team, I don't know that they're going to get another win here for you, the Panthers, this upcoming weekend against that stout Cowboys defense who has been looking real good these past couple of weeks.
00:40:31
Speaker
They've been looking nice.
00:40:32
Speaker
They've been looking nice.
00:40:34
Speaker
I think they're going to have no problem this weekend.
00:40:36
Speaker
This is my most confident game of 14.
00:40:40
Speaker
How did you know?
00:40:41
Speaker
Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.
00:40:45
Speaker
I just had a gut feeling that we were going to be the same there.
00:40:48
Speaker
It's almost like I sent you my picks earlier and the confidence around there and I immediately said, don't look at them.
00:40:53
Speaker
It is.
00:40:56
Speaker
It is almost like that.
00:40:57
Speaker
You think I copied you?
00:40:59
Speaker
It's just almost like you just knew.
00:41:01
Speaker
It's almost like you knew.
00:41:04
Speaker
And if I got a text from you right after I received a package or a text or something, I would not open it if you told me not to open it.
00:41:11
Speaker
Okay.
00:41:12
Speaker
I just want to make that clear.
00:41:15
Speaker
Is that a new rule moving forward?
00:41:16
Speaker
Because you've kind of broken that in the past.
00:41:20
Speaker
Well, if it's addressed to Waverider Willen or MakeWaver...
00:41:29
Speaker
Wave maker.
00:41:36
Speaker
Wave maker willing, then yeah, I got to open it.
00:41:38
Speaker
But if it's addressed to Bob, I would never open it.
00:41:41
Speaker
Good to know.
00:41:42
Speaker
Just a little caveat.
00:41:43
Speaker
That's my new word of the episode for some reason, caveat.
00:41:46
Speaker
Yeah.
00:41:47
Speaker
Yeah.
00:41:47
Speaker
I'm not going to take up any more time on this.
00:41:49
Speaker
Watch me take up four minutes still.
00:41:51
Speaker
Cowboys are grooving.
00:41:53
Speaker
As he enters into an absolute like monologue.
00:41:57
Speaker
Cowboys are grooving right now, and I know we haven't been doing Wavemaker of the Weeks recently, but Dak, shout out to him.
00:42:03
Speaker
He was taking so much slack.
00:42:05
Speaker
Dak, slack.
00:42:06
Speaker
Dak, slack.
00:42:07
Speaker
He was taking a lot of slack a couple weeks ago.
00:42:09
Speaker
He's gone out and put up like 35 fantasy points back-to-back weeks, and he's been killing it.
00:42:14
Speaker
Cowboys defense looks awesome.
00:42:16
Speaker
Once again, Cowboys are looking like one of the best teams in the NFC.
00:42:18
Speaker
They're playing the worst team in the NFC, worst team in the NFL.
00:42:21
Speaker
That's why I got him at 14 as well.
00:42:23
Speaker
Guess who has Dak on their fantasy team?
00:42:26
Speaker
Oh, I do in two other leagues.
00:42:28
Speaker
You're looking at her.
00:42:30
Speaker
You're in trouble.
00:42:32
Speaker
Don't start him this week.
00:42:33
Speaker
That's just.
00:42:34
Speaker
Absolutely, I'm going to start him this week.
00:42:36
Speaker
He gets a Panthers.
00:42:37
Speaker
He better feast.
00:42:38
Speaker
No, no, no.
00:42:39
Speaker
Hey, their secondary is really good.
00:42:41
Speaker
If I was you, I wouldn't do that.
00:42:42
Speaker
Oh, shoot.
00:42:43
Speaker
Okay, I'm going to bench him right now.
00:42:45
Speaker
Okay, do it.
00:42:45
Speaker
I'm not continuing on the podcast until I see him benched.
00:42:48
Speaker
Okay, perfect.
00:42:50
Speaker
Then I'll continue on by myself.
00:42:52
Speaker
I'm actually auditioning for a role of both hosts.
00:42:54
Speaker
So this is my application.
00:42:56
Speaker
You can't do that.
00:42:57
Speaker
You can't do that.
00:42:57
Speaker
Denied.
00:42:58
Speaker
Denied.
00:42:59
Speaker
Okay, cool.
00:43:00
Speaker
We agree on that one.
00:43:02
Speaker
Next game, we have the Tennessee Titans at Jacksonville Jaguars.
00:43:08
Speaker
Ooh, if only somebody listened to me about the Jags last week.
00:43:12
Speaker
Well, we both had one game different.
00:43:14
Speaker
We were both correct on one game and both games were super, super close.
00:43:17
Speaker
So I don't think you could blame either of us on those two.
00:43:20
Speaker
One game was closer than the other because one game was actually really far apart.
00:43:26
Speaker
Well, put down your sword.
00:43:28
Speaker
I don't have my shield up and it's almost the holidays and I'm trying to spend it with my family.
00:43:32
Speaker
Great.
00:43:33
Speaker
She's pretending to shoot me.
00:43:34
Speaker
That was now this is explicit.
00:43:35
Speaker
I didn't have a sword.
00:43:36
Speaker
I didn't have a sword.
00:43:37
Speaker
Wrong weapon.
00:43:38
Speaker
I haven't been.
00:43:39
Speaker
She's literally still shooting me.
00:43:40
Speaker
So I'm gonna try to look away so I can concentrate.
00:43:43
Speaker
Now it's explicit.
00:43:44
Speaker
I haven't sworn yet.
00:43:45
Speaker
Now I might as well just throw them all out there and be a sailor.
00:43:47
Speaker
But yeah, Jags let me down.
00:43:51
Speaker
Lord Farquaad, you have been so good.
00:43:53
Speaker
And last weekend you were not.
00:43:54
Speaker
I have him in one fantasy league and he put up negative.74 points for me last week.
00:44:00
Speaker
Negative points.
00:44:03
Speaker
Lord Farquaad did?
00:44:04
Speaker
He put up literally negative.74 in a league that I lost by a couple points.
00:44:09
Speaker
Yikes.
00:44:09
Speaker
So Farquaad, I'm looking at you.
00:44:12
Speaker
If you don't step it up this week, I swear to gosh, you're in big trouble.
00:44:17
Speaker
But I'm believing in you again against a Titans team that they haven't been playing particularly terrible, particularly great.
00:44:25
Speaker
They're one of the many teams that's kind of just in no man's land in the NFL.
00:44:29
Speaker
Agreed.
00:44:30
Speaker
or no woman's land in the NFL.
00:44:32
Speaker
Thank you.
00:44:33
Speaker
You're welcome.
00:44:34
Speaker
That was really good, Bob.
00:44:35
Speaker
And I think they're going to win at home.
00:44:37
Speaker
They're going to have a bounce back game against Will Levis, who does put mayonnaise in his coffee.
00:44:41
Speaker
Yuck.
00:44:42
Speaker
Woof.
00:44:44
Speaker
So I think Lorde and the Jags offense that is more high powered than the Titans is going to be able to cover.
00:44:52
Speaker
I got them at eight.
00:44:55
Speaker
Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.
00:44:56
Speaker
We got another match.
00:44:59
Speaker
I also have them at eight.
00:45:02
Speaker
Love to hear it.
00:45:04
Speaker
Perfect.
00:45:05
Speaker
Wow.
00:45:05
Speaker
Three matches already, and we're about halfway there.
00:45:09
Speaker
We are just cruising.
00:45:09
Speaker
We're cruising along.
00:45:11
Speaker
Let's just move along.
00:45:13
Speaker
Let's do it and take a look at the Arizona Cardinals at Houston Texans.
00:45:20
Speaker
And I got to hand it to you.
00:45:21
Speaker
If there's one team I got to hand it to you on, it's the Texans because...
00:45:25
Speaker
They are surprising me week in and week out with their wins.
00:45:30
Speaker
And they're doing a really nice job.
00:45:31
Speaker
They really screwed us this past weekend because their win really goofed us up a good bit for them when they beat.
00:45:39
Speaker
Who did they beat?
00:45:40
Speaker
They beat the Bengals.
00:45:42
Speaker
The Bengals, right.
00:45:43
Speaker
In a kind of a stunner.
00:45:44
Speaker
Yeah, I think we were all pretty confident.
00:45:47
Speaker
Everybody in the league is.
00:45:49
Speaker
confidence pool league chose the Bengals.
00:45:51
Speaker
I'm pretty sure except for one person had the Texans at like one.
00:45:55
Speaker
So yeah, a lot of people thought that they were going to lose that.
00:45:58
Speaker
I did.
00:45:58
Speaker
You did.
00:46:00
Speaker
And they have been surprising me.
00:46:01
Speaker
And actually you had said that you thought they were going to be second in their division and they are certainly well on track towards that.
00:46:10
Speaker
They're currently sitting at that.
00:46:12
Speaker
They can absolutely maintain that and maybe even overtake first place.
00:46:16
Speaker
You never know.
00:46:17
Speaker
But I think it starts this weekend with another win against the Arizona Cardinals.
00:46:22
Speaker
The Cardinals do in fact have Kyler Murray back.
00:46:25
Speaker
He was looking a lot like his old self scrambling around making plays happen.
00:46:32
Speaker
Obviously a big boost and a benefit to those wide receivers, those tight ends, those running backs, everybody on the field to have him back.
00:46:40
Speaker
Josh Dobbs did a great job while he was gone, but he's,
00:46:43
Speaker
It definitely, I think, is a big boost to have Kyla back on the field.
00:46:46
Speaker
I think he had a scrambling, rushing touchdown and definitely looked back in his prime coming off of that big injury from last year.
00:46:55
Speaker
Ultimately, though, this one's in Houston.
00:46:58
Speaker
The Texans are pretty hot right now.
00:46:59
Speaker
I think they're going to continue this win streak.
00:47:02
Speaker
And I have them at a confidence level of seven.
00:47:06
Speaker
Oh my gosh.
00:47:07
Speaker
I expected that to be a lot higher.
00:47:10
Speaker
Okay.
00:47:10
Speaker
This is, this is our, our farthest away other than Lions Bears, obviously, but this is our farthest away.
00:47:17
Speaker
It's more than five.
00:47:18
Speaker
Spoiler alert.
00:47:19
Speaker
It's six.
00:47:20
Speaker
Oh my gosh.
00:47:22
Speaker
Well, let's do a little math there.
00:47:24
Speaker
You're extremely confident.
00:47:26
Speaker
You don't have them at one.
00:47:28
Speaker
You don't have them at one.
00:47:29
Speaker
Cause you already have the bears there.
00:47:30
Speaker
So seven plus six.
00:47:32
Speaker
You got them at a Baker's dozen, a 13.
00:47:34
Speaker
I got them at a Baker's dozen.
00:47:36
Speaker
I've got them at 13.
00:47:38
Speaker
So I'm doubling down on what I said about the Texans.
00:47:40
Speaker
They are looking so good.
00:47:41
Speaker
You sure are.
00:47:42
Speaker
CJ Strout looking like a possible MVP as a rookie, which is absurd.
00:47:47
Speaker
He's making guys like Tank Dell look like Pro Bowl receivers.
00:47:51
Speaker
Nico Brown, Nico Collin, not Nico Brown.
00:47:54
Speaker
No Brown, Nico Collin.
00:47:56
Speaker
So all these guys.
00:47:58
Speaker
He's letting them eat, and they are eating.
00:47:59
Speaker
So, yeah, the Texans, unbelievable.
00:48:03
Speaker
They're the darling of the NFL right now.
00:48:05
Speaker
Hey, darling.
00:48:06
Speaker
Hey, darling.
00:48:07
Speaker
They're the darling of Texas.
00:48:09
Speaker
And it would be tough to be a Panthers fan right now for a lot of reasons.
00:48:13
Speaker
But can you imagine trading away your future number one pick, which may be the number one pick, DJ Moore, and a whole heck of a lot more to get –
00:48:22
Speaker
not CJ Stroud and pick Bryce Young ahead of CJ.
00:48:25
Speaker
And that's looking like a big time fumble by them.
00:48:28
Speaker
No pun intended.
00:48:29
Speaker
So sorry, Carolina.
00:48:30
Speaker
That was, that was not your best, but Houston kudos.
00:48:34
Speaker
Great pick.
00:48:35
Speaker
I got you at 13 this weekend.
00:48:37
Speaker
Okay.
00:48:38
Speaker
All right.
00:48:38
Speaker
I mean, I can't, I can't really argue much about that.
00:48:40
Speaker
I guess maybe I'm still just like,
00:48:43
Speaker
Something about the Texans, I'm just like, really?
00:48:46
Speaker
We're going to put them at double digits.
00:48:47
Speaker
You know what I mean?
00:48:48
Speaker
But they are looking good.
00:48:50
Speaker
Some of their losses concern me.
00:48:51
Speaker
They lost to Carolina like three weeks ago.
00:48:53
Speaker
So that obviously is a little bit scary to see some of those.
00:48:57
Speaker
But also Strout has been a lot better these past two weeks.
00:49:02
Speaker
He's been electric, and I think that's been the difference maker.
00:49:04
Speaker
So as long as he can continue that, then they should have no problem.
00:49:09
Speaker
I would have to agree.
00:49:10
Speaker
So yeah, Texans, prove us right.
00:49:12
Speaker
Please and thanks.
00:49:14
Speaker
Let's do it.
00:49:15
Speaker
We are going to move into the Sunday afternoon slate of games.
00:49:18
Speaker
But before we do, it is time for a word from our sponsors.
00:49:25
Speaker
Dang it.
00:49:27
Speaker
Today's Thanksgiving.
00:49:29
Speaker
Thanksgiving.
00:49:31
Speaker
Themed episode, even though it's really not.
00:49:35
Speaker
It's brought to you by gravy, gravy, gravy, gravy.
00:49:40
Speaker
Get your gravy, put it on potatoes, put it on tomatoes, put it on anything.
00:49:45
Speaker
Is that pumpkin pie?
00:49:47
Speaker
Yeah.
00:49:48
Speaker
Get your gravy at your local Target or Jewel Osco.
00:49:50
Speaker
$2.99 in a packet, $3.99 in a tube.
00:49:54
Speaker
Thanks, gravy.
00:49:58
Speaker
Really good.
00:50:00
Speaker
I was digging so long to that a little bit.
00:50:02
Speaker
Gravy, gravy.
00:50:02
Speaker
Get your little gravy.
00:50:04
Speaker
Gravy, gravy.
00:50:05
Speaker
Hey, hey, hey.
00:50:07
Speaker
And who doesn't love a little bit of gravy, right?
00:50:09
Speaker
Oh, I love gravy.
00:50:10
Speaker
You know, smothering the turkey and the mashed taters with the gravy.
00:50:14
Speaker
Oh, getting my belly.
00:50:16
Speaker
Put it on top of your Walder salad even maybe.
00:50:19
Speaker
So good.
00:50:20
Speaker
Oh, excuse me.
00:50:21
Speaker
Oh, that was a juicy one.
00:50:22
Speaker
Did you just throw up your mic?
00:50:24
Speaker
Gosh.
00:50:25
Speaker
Walder salad.
00:50:26
Speaker
Yeah.
00:50:27
Speaker
Yeah.
00:50:28
Speaker
You're so lucky we're not getting into a full synopsis of Thanksgiving because if we were, I would be talking about Waldorf salad.
00:50:34
Speaker
You know what?
00:50:34
Speaker
I'm just going to dive in and talk about it for like 15 minutes right now.
00:50:37
Speaker
Oh, well, we're almost out of time and we're trying to get the Bucco box.
00:50:40
Speaker
We are.
00:50:41
Speaker
If you haven't tried Waldorf salad, try it.
00:50:43
Speaker
If you haven't tried my mom's Waldorf salad, Nance, try it.
00:50:46
Speaker
No spank, yeah.
00:50:50
Speaker
More for me.
00:50:51
Speaker
Thank you very much.
00:50:52
Speaker
Yeah, hey.
00:50:53
Speaker
No problem.
00:50:54
Speaker
You can eat that Waldorf salad at 11 p.m.
00:50:56
Speaker
Thanksgiving Day.
00:50:59
Speaker
That was rude.
00:51:01
Speaker
That was too real.
00:51:02
Speaker
That hit a little too close to home, to be honest.
00:51:04
Speaker
Oh, goodness gracious.
00:51:05
Speaker
Okay, looking ahead.
00:51:07
Speaker
Sunday afternoon, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers at San Francisco 49ers.
00:51:15
Speaker
Yes, the Niners.
00:51:18
Speaker
They bounced back.
00:51:20
Speaker
They caught me with my pants and my ankles for sure.
00:51:22
Speaker
They sure did.
00:51:24
Speaker
They sure did.
00:51:27
Speaker
They had the telescope out at me, and they're like, why are your pants on your ankles?
00:51:30
Speaker
I was like, whoops.
00:51:32
Speaker
Pulled them right back up and said, I will not make that mistake again.
00:51:34
Speaker
And you know what?
00:51:35
Speaker
Gosh darn it.
00:51:36
Speaker
Happy Thanksgiving, Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays.
00:51:38
Speaker
I will not make that mistake again.
00:51:41
Speaker
Niners are at home.
00:51:42
Speaker
They looked unbelievable.
00:51:44
Speaker
Absolute whomping on the Jags.
00:51:47
Speaker
Okay, well, I think I quite made my point.
00:51:50
Speaker
They won by 31 points in case you were wondering.
00:51:53
Speaker
Yep, I don't think anyone's wondering, but now they know.
00:51:55
Speaker
Thank you for locking that in there.
00:51:58
Speaker
Yeah, they proved me wrong, for sure.
00:52:01
Speaker
And Nick agreed with me when we were pitching.
00:52:03
Speaker
Did I prove you wrong?
00:52:05
Speaker
No, the Niners did.
00:52:07
Speaker
Not you, though.
00:52:07
Speaker
Okay, okay.
00:52:09
Speaker
Chase Young and Co., yes, Mac.
00:52:11
Speaker
Not quite close, but...
00:52:13
Speaker
But not quite.
00:52:14
Speaker
But yeah, the Niners, I mean, they are, in my opinion, the second best team in the NFC again right now at this point in time.
00:52:22
Speaker
Behind the Lions, right?
00:52:23
Speaker
I need to say that.
00:52:25
Speaker
They are right behind the Eagles.
00:52:26
Speaker
Roll tonight, folks.
00:52:28
Speaker
They're right behind the Eagles, a couple spots ahead of the Lions for my best teams on paper at the NFC.
00:52:33
Speaker
And they are going to prove it at home against the Bucs.
00:52:37
Speaker
I have them pretty confidently.
00:52:40
Speaker
I have them at seven.
00:52:41
Speaker
I think they're going to continue to eat before Thanksgiving.
00:52:45
Speaker
And I think they're going to beat a depleted Bucs team.
00:52:48
Speaker
The Baker Mayfield, you know, fun, light story at the start of the season is completely vanished.
00:52:54
Speaker
People are hating him again in Tampa Bay.
00:52:55
Speaker
He has not been good.
00:52:56
Speaker
And Niner's going to win this game.
00:52:58
Speaker
Seven, baby.
00:53:00
Speaker
Pretty confident, you say.
00:53:01
Speaker
Well, wait till you hear my points.
00:53:03
Speaker
Oh, boy.
00:53:04
Speaker
This is another pretty far apart.
00:53:07
Speaker
A little bit closer than the last game by one point.
00:53:10
Speaker
But yes, I agree.
00:53:12
Speaker
49ers, I think they're going to have no problem winning this game.
00:53:14
Speaker
Obviously, I think heading into the bye, they were really sputtering out.
00:53:18
Speaker
They had a lot of injuries.
00:53:20
Speaker
They were able to rest up, heal up the bye, and take on a very formidable opponent in the Jacksonville Jags last week.
00:53:27
Speaker
If you didn't hear, they won by 31 points.
00:53:30
Speaker
We did not.
00:53:30
Speaker
I did not know that.
00:53:31
Speaker
And they were away, and now they will be home.
00:53:34
Speaker
They're looking back in their prime.
00:53:36
Speaker
They've got their offensive tackle, who's been huge.
00:53:39
Speaker
Trent Williams back out there protecting Purdy.
00:53:42
Speaker
And then, my oh my, that Nick Bosa and Chase Young matchup on that defensive line has been scary.
00:53:50
Speaker
They were teammates back at the Ohio State University, correct?
00:53:56
Speaker
That, yeah.
00:53:57
Speaker
And they're back together on the same team.
00:53:59
Speaker
And those two together, wow, they were putting the pressure on, as Bob said.
00:54:03
Speaker
Negative points for Trevor Lawrence because they were just on him, like white on rice all day long.
00:54:08
Speaker
I think they're going to have no problem doing that to Baker, who under pressure does not do well.
00:54:14
Speaker
So I've got the 49ers, and I've got them five higher at 12th.
00:54:19
Speaker
Whoa.
00:54:20
Speaker
Okay.
00:54:21
Speaker
Baker Mayfield, take cover, baby.
00:54:23
Speaker
Hope you have a Baker for Thanksgiving because you might be benched after this one, baby.
00:54:29
Speaker
Okay, baby.
00:54:32
Speaker
I don't know why I came out like that.
00:54:33
Speaker
That's okay.
00:54:36
Speaker
But yes, Baker's probably in trouble this upcoming weekend.
00:54:39
Speaker
And I'm very confident in that very clearly.
00:54:42
Speaker
Okay.
00:54:42
Speaker
I like it.
00:54:43
Speaker
Seven and 12.
00:54:45
Speaker
Let's do it up.
00:54:46
Speaker
All right, next up on the list, we have the New York Jets at Buffalo Bills.
00:54:51
Speaker
And you kind of mentioned this already, but the Bills, man, they are stumbling a bit here.
00:54:58
Speaker
We're definitely not seeing what I think a lot of people wanted to see out of them.
00:55:04
Speaker
Man, our Super Bowl picks, let's just say they are down the freaking toilet because mine was the Bengals, yours was the Bills.
00:55:12
Speaker
And after last week's loss from the Bills, losing to the Broncos, it's just like, come on now.
00:55:19
Speaker
What's happening?
00:55:20
Speaker
You lost to Russell Wilson.
00:55:22
Speaker
Let's ride on Monday night.
00:55:25
Speaker
And that's just a poor performance all the way around.
00:55:28
Speaker
It's embarrassing.
00:55:29
Speaker
Buffalo will not win.
00:55:32
Speaker
have happy holidays if this continues because the Superbowl window is looking to be closed.
00:55:36
Speaker
And that was just, excuse my French explicit.
00:55:39
Speaker
That was a piss poor effort on Monday night.
00:55:41
Speaker
You can't lose it home to the Broncos.
00:55:42
Speaker
You just can't do it.
00:55:43
Speaker
If you're going to make the playoffs.
00:55:44
Speaker
Absolutely.
00:55:45
Speaker
You cannot.
00:55:46
Speaker
And who would have thought heading into week 11, we've got the Buffalo Bills and the Cincinnati Bengals on the outside looking in of the playoff picture right now.
00:55:57
Speaker
Crazy.
00:55:57
Speaker
I certainly wouldn't have guessed it.
00:55:59
Speaker
You didn't guess it.
00:56:00
Speaker
I don't think anybody would have guessed it clearly because we had them go to the Super Bowl.
00:56:04
Speaker
I guessed it.
00:56:05
Speaker
My co-host obviously didn't, but I did guess it.
00:56:07
Speaker
Oh, you did.
00:56:08
Speaker
I guessed it.
00:56:08
Speaker
Yeah.
00:56:09
Speaker
Oh, weird.
00:56:10
Speaker
I feel like I remember maybe you guessed that they would be winning the Super Bowl this year.
00:56:14
Speaker
No, no, no, no, no.
00:56:16
Speaker
I think I said Chiefs.
00:56:17
Speaker
Oh, okay, okay.
00:56:19
Speaker
Perfect.
00:56:19
Speaker
Yes, yes, yes.
00:56:20
Speaker
Yeah, check those sheets.
00:56:21
Speaker
Okay.
00:56:22
Speaker
All right.
00:56:23
Speaker
Well, all that being said, here I am talking a bunch of smack about them.
00:56:27
Speaker
And I think they're going to win simply because I think they have to win this weekend.
00:56:31
Speaker
I think if they do not win this game, I don't know that there's much bouncing back.
00:56:35
Speaker
And they've got to win.
00:56:37
Speaker
They already lost to the Jets the first week of this year.
00:56:41
Speaker
And obviously that was also still against Zach Wilson because Inriders got hurt.
00:56:46
Speaker
four plays in.
00:56:47
Speaker
So I don't know.
00:56:48
Speaker
They've got to figure something out.
00:56:49
Speaker
They've got to turn it around.
00:56:50
Speaker
I've got them maybe scary high for what the way that they've been playing lately.
00:56:54
Speaker
But the Jets ultimately clearly are also not a super solid team.
00:56:59
Speaker
They just lost to a tumultuous Las Vegas Raiders team.
00:57:03
Speaker
So yeah, I got the bills and I got them at six.
00:57:07
Speaker
Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.
00:57:11
Speaker
This is unbelievable.
00:57:12
Speaker
I actually didn't.
00:57:14
Speaker
I briefly skimmed your confidences, and I didn't realize we had this many that were the same.
00:57:18
Speaker
Wait, what's that pen written on the inside of your hand?
00:57:20
Speaker
All those numbers.
00:57:21
Speaker
Are those my confidences?
00:57:22
Speaker
What?
00:57:22
Speaker
What?
00:57:23
Speaker
Nothing.
00:57:24
Speaker
I knew it.
00:57:25
Speaker
Nothing.
00:57:25
Speaker
That's a new tattoo that I'm getting.
00:57:28
Speaker
Oh, my gosh.
00:57:29
Speaker
You just deafened me with your pen there.
00:57:30
Speaker
I was so...
00:57:32
Speaker
Did I hit the mic?
00:57:33
Speaker
Oh, absolutely.
00:57:33
Speaker
Oh, sorry.
00:57:34
Speaker
Ding.
00:57:35
Speaker
But obviously Zencaster is going to take that right out now.
00:57:37
Speaker
Probably.
00:57:38
Speaker
Probably.
00:57:38
Speaker
I'm going to be going, oh.
00:57:40
Speaker
Yeah, probably nobody will hear it.
00:57:42
Speaker
Probably not.
00:57:42
Speaker
This happened a couple times and got to love it though.
00:57:45
Speaker
Thank you Zencaster for being so great.
00:57:47
Speaker
I do hear a lot of scribbling coming through on your end though.
00:57:50
Speaker
Oh my.
00:57:51
Speaker
Oh my gosh.
00:57:52
Speaker
Yeah.
00:57:52
Speaker
I'm just circling another ding to the ding, ding, ding, the fourth of the episode.
00:57:58
Speaker
And yeah, I agree with everything that Max said, the bills, they'd be struggling the jets.
00:58:04
Speaker
They still got Zach Wilson.
00:58:06
Speaker
We will definitely hit on the Aaron Rodgers situation in a couple weeks as it becomes a little bit more of a possibility if that is a thing.
00:58:12
Speaker
But yeah, Jets are 4-5.
00:58:13
Speaker
Bills are 5-5.
00:58:15
Speaker
Who would have thunk?
00:58:15
Speaker
Those would be the records after 9 and 10 weeks, respectively.
00:58:19
Speaker
But yeah, I completely think you hit the nail on the head when you said if the Bills don't win this, they are done.
00:58:23
Speaker
Because after the Monday night game, the analysts were talking about the record or the schedule they had coming up.
00:58:29
Speaker
And they still have Chiefs, Eagles, and Cowboys.
00:58:32
Speaker
So if the Bills don't win against the Jets...
00:58:34
Speaker
They're donezo.
00:58:35
Speaker
So yeah, they're at home.
00:58:36
Speaker
That's why I have them at six.
00:58:40
Speaker
Okay.
00:58:41
Speaker
Yeah, that's a tough schedule coming up.
00:58:43
Speaker
Some people are definitely heading into some hard end of year schedules before the playoffs.
00:58:48
Speaker
So not looking promising if they're going to lose this weekend.
00:58:52
Speaker
Not looking great.
00:58:54
Speaker
So it's put up or shut up time for sure.
00:58:56
Speaker
Sure is.
00:58:57
Speaker
Sure is.
00:59:00
Speaker
All right, looking at the final game of that 4 o'clock early afternoon slate, we have the Seattle Seahawks at Los Angeles Rams.
00:59:09
Speaker
So another interdivisional matchup.
00:59:13
Speaker
And quick note, injuries for this game.
00:59:15
Speaker
I know I didn't really cover them, but I believe Matthew Stafford is expected back this weekend.
00:59:20
Speaker
Something to monitor.
00:59:21
Speaker
He's been out.
00:59:22
Speaker
But he is, I believe, trending in the right direction to rejoin the squad.
00:59:28
Speaker
Okay.
00:59:28
Speaker
Welcome back, Maddie.
00:59:29
Speaker
It's been a couple of weeks.
00:59:31
Speaker
All the, uh, the Puka fantasy owners are going to be happy, myself included.
00:59:35
Speaker
So, uh, welcome back, my man.
00:59:37
Speaker
Yeah.
00:59:38
Speaker
Unfortunately for Matt, um, I don't think it's going to be a very warm welcome, uh, for him in LA just because Pete Carroll
Seahawks, Vikings, and Eagles Game Analysis
00:59:44
Speaker
and that, uh, vaunted, is that a word?
00:59:46
Speaker
Vaunted defense.
00:59:49
Speaker
I don't know if I've ever heard that word.
00:59:51
Speaker
Well, hey.
00:59:52
Speaker
Vaunted defense?
00:59:53
Speaker
Tell me how you spell that.
00:59:55
Speaker
She's going to check it right now.
00:59:56
Speaker
Oh, my God.
00:59:57
Speaker
V-A-U-N-T-E-D.
01:00:00
Speaker
Vaunted.
01:00:00
Speaker
Like a vaunted defense.
01:00:03
Speaker
Praised or boasted about?
01:00:05
Speaker
Yep.
01:00:06
Speaker
Like I said, vaunted defense.
01:00:08
Speaker
Like to be praised about, to be boasted about.
01:00:11
Speaker
A really good defense.
01:00:12
Speaker
Wow.
01:00:13
Speaker
What a word, Bob.
01:00:14
Speaker
That's much better than when you say like...
01:00:18
Speaker
alluded to.
01:00:19
Speaker
And then you're like, Ooh, good word.
01:00:20
Speaker
Like vaunted.
01:00:21
Speaker
That's one where you should be like, wow, good word.
01:00:23
Speaker
That's what a word.
01:00:26
Speaker
What a word, Bob.
01:00:27
Speaker
Nicely done.
01:00:28
Speaker
Thank you.
01:00:29
Speaker
Let me put away my dictionary here.
01:00:30
Speaker
Perfect.
01:00:31
Speaker
Seahawks in that vaunted defense.
01:00:34
Speaker
That's going to be the new, the new word moving forward for this guy.
01:00:37
Speaker
Just FYI, I'm going to be saying vaunted about 10 times per podcast for the rest of the season.
01:00:42
Speaker
So there's going to be no shortage of that, but yeah.
01:00:47
Speaker
Pete Carroll and that vaunted defense coming into LA Seahawks are hanging on to a wild card spot right now.
01:00:52
Speaker
I believe they're, I believe there's seven and three.
01:00:56
Speaker
If that's, if I'm not mistaken, Seahawks.
01:01:01
Speaker
Yes.
01:01:01
Speaker
Seven and three currently, man.
01:01:03
Speaker
That's impressive.
01:01:03
Speaker
Okay.
01:01:04
Speaker
Yeah.
01:01:04
Speaker
So Seahawks seven and three Gino still not writing back.
01:01:09
Speaker
Kenneth Walker go green, go white.
01:01:12
Speaker
Nice.
01:01:12
Speaker
Nice.
01:01:13
Speaker
He's running the ball well.
01:01:14
Speaker
And dang it, we're over an hour.
01:01:16
Speaker
We're not hitting the buka buck.
01:01:17
Speaker
Shoot.
01:01:17
Speaker
We were so close.
01:01:20
Speaker
Explicit.
01:01:21
Speaker
It deserves to be explicit.
01:01:24
Speaker
Shoot.
01:01:25
Speaker
Because my co-host did that to us.
01:01:28
Speaker
Well, I will request you for $55 after this.
01:01:33
Speaker
But yeah, I mean, with that being said, now we can just coast.
01:01:36
Speaker
I'm good with an hour 45 at this point if we didn't get under an hour.
01:01:39
Speaker
Yeah.
01:01:41
Speaker
Great.
01:01:42
Speaker
But yeah, I, all jokes aside, I think the Seahawks are going to win.
01:01:46
Speaker
I don't think staff coming back is going to be nearly enough.
01:01:48
Speaker
And I'm, this is a pretty high game.
01:01:50
Speaker
I got the Seahawks moving to eight and three and I have that at a confidence level of nine.
01:01:58
Speaker
Ooh, we, okay.
01:01:59
Speaker
You have them.
01:02:01
Speaker
A bit higher than I do.
01:02:02
Speaker
Not by too, too much.
01:02:03
Speaker
Definitely very doable.
01:02:05
Speaker
But I also agree that the Seahawks are going to win.
01:02:08
Speaker
They have been doing good.
01:02:09
Speaker
That 7-3 record.
01:02:10
Speaker
I don't know why.
01:02:11
Speaker
There's just something nagging about it to me that I'm like... I feel like they've been showing a little bit of hobbleness.
01:02:18
Speaker
And maybe it's because they...
01:02:21
Speaker
Almost lost to the commanders, but I feel like there's some weaknesses there that are going to be exploited at some point.
01:02:29
Speaker
And an inter-divisional matchup is a perfect place for that to occur.
01:02:32
Speaker
These are teams that know each other very, very well inside and out.
01:02:36
Speaker
They know how to beat them.
01:02:38
Speaker
Some of them have different holds over the other, despite...
01:02:42
Speaker
players that come in and out.
01:02:44
Speaker
I don't really know that the Rams have this big thing.
01:02:49
Speaker
Yes, Bobby has something to say.
01:02:50
Speaker
What would you like to say?
01:02:52
Speaker
I just discovered this tool that I can raise my hand and my thing bounces so Mac knows when I want to talk.
01:02:56
Speaker
I'm going to be using this a lot too.
01:02:58
Speaker
I'm haunted in this.
01:02:59
Speaker
Yay.
01:03:00
Speaker
But yeah, you said they've been... She's pumped, folks.
01:03:05
Speaker
You're going to say about the Lions.
01:03:08
Speaker
Go ahead.
01:03:08
Speaker
Can I have any fun on this podcast tonight?
01:03:11
Speaker
Gosh.
01:03:12
Speaker
What do you have to say?
01:03:15
Speaker
Well, there's no point anymore because I was going to ask if you think they've had any good wins this season because you said they've been struggling against so-so teams.
01:03:21
Speaker
I was hoping you were going to say no, and I was going to remind you that they beat the Lions.
01:03:24
Speaker
But somehow, from me raising my hand, you know I was going to say that.
01:03:28
Speaker
I don't get it.
01:03:30
Speaker
Yes, I do think they have had good wins this season.
01:03:33
Speaker
I'm just saying mostly the past couple weeks, I feel like they've just, you know, shown some weaknesses.
01:03:38
Speaker
I also have some bias against them because the Seahawks have just been a thorn in our freaking side for the Lions the past few seasons.
01:03:45
Speaker
You know, I've talked about this a million times, so I won't go back down that rabbit hole, but maybe that's just why I have an issue.
01:03:50
Speaker
And I have a soft spot for Maddie.
01:03:52
Speaker
Either way, I'm still going with the Seahawks.
01:03:56
Speaker
I've got them just a little lower at five.
01:03:59
Speaker
Okay.
01:03:59
Speaker
What is this rabbit hole you're talking about with the Seahawks, Mac?
01:04:01
Speaker
I want to hear your thoughts on this.
01:04:03
Speaker
I've gone down it many a time on the podcast.
01:04:06
Speaker
The listeners don't need to hear about it more.
01:04:08
Speaker
Let me have fun to go down it.
01:04:11
Speaker
down the rabbit hole just kidding okay so we got nine and five okay seahawks let's get it done those middle ground games will probably end up meeting in the middle end up being uh very paramount good word wow in winning the bucco buck so with that being said i know we're heading into the uh the primetime matchups with sunday night monday night and mac i'm sure you're not i'm gonna be expecting me to say this but it is your time to shine with the second advertisement of the episode
01:04:39
Speaker
I almost stole it away from you and was like, I'm going to do the second advertisement, but that would really be crossing a line.
01:04:47
Speaker
You've already crossed it.
01:04:48
Speaker
That would have been murdering the line.
01:04:50
Speaker
So thank you for not.
01:04:51
Speaker
Okay.
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01:05:03
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01:05:04
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He's already hitting his head.
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01:05:34
Speaker
I wish I didn't hate those rhymes so much.
01:05:36
Speaker
What the hell?
01:05:37
Speaker
I did not expect you to rhyme that with shart in your shorts.
01:05:44
Speaker
You obviously came up with that one earlier today, and you're probably cracking up to yourself.
01:05:48
Speaker
I might have had something brewing since we were talking about Buffalo Wild Ninks.
01:05:52
Speaker
I may have.
01:05:55
Speaker
Oh, my God.
01:05:55
Speaker
And the fact that she said my name in there, Bears.
01:05:58
Speaker
All the Bears players that are listening in, you've got to have my back this week.
01:06:00
Speaker
You cannot let me do that because I will sharp my shorts, and that ad will come true.
01:06:06
Speaker
And someone's smoking weed somewhere.
01:06:07
Speaker
I have my window open, and it smells so bad in here.
01:06:11
Speaker
Bob is not well tonight, folks.
01:06:13
Speaker
Bob is not well.
01:06:16
Speaker
Is that...
01:06:17
Speaker
That's ridiculous.
01:06:18
Speaker
Okay, well, I'm just going to try to push through here.
01:06:21
Speaker
I'll push through while you get yourself situated for the Sunday night game.
01:06:27
Speaker
We have the Minnesota Vikings at Denver Broncos.
01:06:32
Speaker
And initially, looking at this game, I was like, oh, easy peasy.
01:06:36
Speaker
Lemon squeezy.
01:06:37
Speaker
Wipe my hands clean of it.
01:06:38
Speaker
It's going to be a high game.
01:06:39
Speaker
But as you start diving into it a little bit, the Broncos are on a slight little win streak here.
01:06:45
Speaker
Let's see.
01:06:46
Speaker
I'm trying to think of who they've beat.
01:06:48
Speaker
Obviously, they just beat the Bills.
01:06:50
Speaker
Yes, you're raising your hand again.
01:06:52
Speaker
Go ahead.
01:06:53
Speaker
I was going to tell you.
01:06:53
Speaker
This was another thing they popped up on Monday night, and I can tell you right now they've beaten the Bills.
01:06:59
Speaker
They just beat the Chiefs right before their bye.
01:07:01
Speaker
Oh, my gosh.
01:07:02
Speaker
Yeah.
01:07:03
Speaker
And they beat another powerhouse, obviously, in the Bears.
01:07:06
Speaker
So, yeah.
01:07:07
Speaker
Right.
01:07:08
Speaker
Three powerhouses.
01:07:09
Speaker
Just right back to back to back.
01:07:11
Speaker
Wow.
01:07:11
Speaker
That's crazy.
01:07:13
Speaker
Crazy, crazy.
01:07:14
Speaker
I mean, actually, the Bears, I think that was the first of October.
01:07:17
Speaker
So I think there was a couple losses in the middle there.
01:07:19
Speaker
But I will look it up when you were going through it.
01:07:21
Speaker
You're right, though.
01:07:21
Speaker
I did forget about that Chiefs win.
01:07:23
Speaker
So, yeah, I don't know.
01:07:24
Speaker
Don't look now.
01:07:25
Speaker
But Sean Payton might be turning some things around for Denver.
01:07:28
Speaker
I don't really think it's, you know –
01:07:32
Speaker
Too much to worry about, maybe more of a little bit of a lightning-in-the-bottle type situation.
01:07:36
Speaker
But, hey, if they keep winning, we will be looking at them in a new light.
01:07:40
Speaker
Ultimately, though, the Vikings, they really haven't skipped a beat since Kirk Cousins' injury with the Phillies tear.
01:07:47
Speaker
He's out for the rest of the season.
01:07:49
Speaker
Josh Dobbs, who they call the Pastronaut.
01:07:52
Speaker
Have you seen this?
01:07:53
Speaker
He is a certified astronaut or something, and they're calling him the Pastronaut because he's getting all these passes, he's scrambling, he's doing all these things.
01:08:03
Speaker
That's his new Nip fan here for the Vikings, and he's been doing pretty well, and they're also expected...
01:08:09
Speaker
to get Justin Jefferson, who has been battling that injury.
01:08:13
Speaker
They're expected to get him back likely this weekend.
01:08:16
Speaker
Another great boost for the Vikings.
01:08:19
Speaker
And honestly, a little scary for me sitting atop of the NFC North.
01:08:23
Speaker
Vikings are hot on our tail for the Lions.
01:08:25
Speaker
So hopefully they have some losses sprinkled in there, but I think this weekend might be a win.
01:08:31
Speaker
I've got them a little lower just because the Broncos, I'm like, okay, clearly they can beat anybody.
01:08:35
Speaker
They beat the Chiefs and the Bills.
01:08:37
Speaker
But I've got them at three and Bob is raising his hand again for the third time.
01:08:41
Speaker
I'm just, I'm just making sure that the, this new really fun tool works.
01:08:45
Speaker
It does just so you know, it does.
01:08:48
Speaker
I was going to, you seem so excited about that.
01:08:51
Speaker
I was going to ask you, you kind of answered my question once again, stealing my fun, my nuggets, my intro, what the hell is going on here?
01:08:57
Speaker
But do you feel a little bit of pressure?
01:09:01
Speaker
Do you legitimately think that the Vikings could, knowing that the Vikings and Lions still do play each other twice this season?
01:09:08
Speaker
They do.
01:09:08
Speaker
Are you a little worried about the past or not?
01:09:11
Speaker
And the Vikings coming up and stealing the division from your boys?
01:09:16
Speaker
There is a slight amount of worry there.
01:09:20
Speaker
I think those games against us are going to be arguably the most important because the Vikings have a fairly soft schedule the rest of the way out as well.
01:09:31
Speaker
I feel bad saying that.
01:09:32
Speaker
The Bears are on that list.
01:09:33
Speaker
The Hawkins are on that list.
01:09:34
Speaker
The Raiders are on that list.
01:09:36
Speaker
The Packers are on that list.
01:09:37
Speaker
And then they play Detroit twice.
01:09:38
Speaker
And they also play the Bengals.
01:09:40
Speaker
I think they will likely lose to the Bengals.
01:09:42
Speaker
But those Detroit games, weeks 16 and 18, are going to be pretty big in determining who sits atop the leaderboard, I think.
01:09:51
Speaker
So there is some concern there, but hopefully it will be within our control.
01:09:57
Speaker
And I'm confident in my voice.
01:10:00
Speaker
I agree.
01:10:00
Speaker
I like how you said our control and you really made a fist.
01:10:03
Speaker
And the Lions have a two-game lead in the loss column right now.
01:10:07
Speaker
True.
01:10:08
Speaker
At Thanksgiving, that seems unheard of.
01:10:10
Speaker
It's like we're in the upside down right now.
01:10:11
Speaker
But hey, Lions, kudos to them.
01:10:12
Speaker
They're playing good ball.
01:10:13
Speaker
Anyways, I digress.
01:10:15
Speaker
Vikings, Broncos, I agree with what you said, Mac.
01:10:17
Speaker
I think the pass or not, coolest nickname in the NFL.
01:10:20
Speaker
I had not heard that.
01:10:22
Speaker
So thank you for sharing.
01:10:23
Speaker
I think he is going to lead this red hot Vikings team.
01:10:28
Speaker
They've won five games in a row.
01:10:29
Speaker
And I saw a nugget.
01:10:30
Speaker
If you somehow steal this, I did not share this with you on Instagram earlier.
01:10:34
Speaker
If you somehow snagged this, I would be so pissed.
01:10:37
Speaker
But the nugget is, I'm going to say it fast, is that the Vikings were one and four with Justin Jefferson.
01:10:40
Speaker
They're five and oh without him.
01:10:42
Speaker
I didn't see that.
01:10:44
Speaker
Thank goodness you didn't steal that.
01:10:45
Speaker
Good nugget.
01:10:47
Speaker
So maybe they don't want Jettis to come back so quickly because they're just winning no matter what.
01:10:52
Speaker
And maybe not.
01:10:54
Speaker
All that being said, you're going what, with like the Vikings at five?
01:11:00
Speaker
It's been a fun run on Making Waves.
01:11:02
Speaker
And put in your apps because I am done.
01:11:06
Speaker
On to Monday night.
01:11:10
Speaker
No confirmation there?
01:11:12
Speaker
I think with your...
01:11:15
Speaker
Tone there, the Wave Riders know that that's confirmed.
01:11:17
Speaker
So I don't want to give you the satisfaction of confirming it, but yeah, I have the Vikings at five.
01:11:24
Speaker
This has been a fun episode.
01:11:26
Speaker
This has been such a great episode.
01:11:28
Speaker
It's almost like I know who you're going to go with, and I wish I could say it, but I'm not going to do that to the Wave Riders because this is a Super Bowl rematch, and I'm going to be the bigger person.
01:11:37
Speaker
Okay.
01:11:38
Speaker
And dive right in here.
01:11:40
Speaker
Go ahead.
01:11:41
Speaker
Monday night, 8.15 p.m.
01:11:43
Speaker
Because I believe this is the other game that we have different, right?
01:11:47
Speaker
It is indeed.
01:11:48
Speaker
And this is your game.
01:11:49
Speaker
So why don't you start us off?
01:11:51
Speaker
Okay.
01:11:52
Speaker
I have Eagles, Mac-East Chiefs.
01:11:53
Speaker
But yeah, I have the Eagles in this game.
01:11:56
Speaker
And I'm going to tell you exactly why.
01:11:59
Speaker
Vengeance and revenge and just thinking about something in your head and just letting it sit there and having this unbelievable prize with that being the Super Bowl snatched from you in the final minutes back in February, I'm sure has been stewing in every single Philadelphia player, coaching staff, fans, head, heart, mind, stomach, heart.
01:12:24
Speaker
bum bum since that unbelievable Superbowl back in February, like I said.
01:12:29
Speaker
And I mean, they've been showing that they want it bad.
01:12:32
Speaker
They're eight and one right now.
01:12:33
Speaker
They've been hemming.
01:12:34
Speaker
They've been hawing.
01:12:35
Speaker
They have a vaunted offense.
01:12:36
Speaker
They have a vaunted defense and yeah, they're healthy.
01:12:40
Speaker
They're coming off a buy.
01:12:41
Speaker
And I just really think that the Eagles are going to come into Kansas city, a place where the chiefs have shown they can lose this season.
01:12:48
Speaker
They lost, lost to a Detroit lions team to start off the season in Kansas city.
01:12:53
Speaker
they lost to a Denver Broncos team in Kansas city.
01:12:56
Speaker
And now that was in Denver.
01:12:58
Speaker
Sorry.
01:12:58
Speaker
Scratch that.
01:12:59
Speaker
I still stick with the Eagles.
01:13:02
Speaker
But yeah, I mean, not to mention, Travis Kelsey's been in Argentina.
01:13:06
Speaker
It's true.
01:13:07
Speaker
Is that a guy who's been smooching with his girlfriend in Argentina, watching her concerts?
01:13:14
Speaker
Her name's Taylor Swift.
01:13:15
Speaker
I'm sure some of you haven't heard of her.
01:13:16
Speaker
But he's been a good BF.
01:13:19
Speaker
But he's been in South America, probably drinking a lot of red wine, doing some tango, partying it up.
01:13:24
Speaker
The Eagles have been putting their head down to the grindstone, getting ready for this game.
01:13:28
Speaker
I have them in the most anticipated Monday night game in a long while.
01:13:33
Speaker
And I have them at two.
01:13:35
Speaker
Okay.
01:13:37
Speaker
I like it.
01:13:38
Speaker
I honestly did.
01:13:39
Speaker
In fact, consider going Eagles as well.
01:13:42
Speaker
Obviously Bob mentioned that we chose separate in this game.
01:13:45
Speaker
He also mentioned that I chose the chiefs, which is accurate at one.
01:13:50
Speaker
At one.
01:13:51
Speaker
That is also accurate.
01:13:52
Speaker
Thank you for sharing that.
01:13:53
Speaker
You're welcome.
01:13:54
Speaker
I didn't want to build the anticipation too much, so I appreciate that.
01:13:57
Speaker
For sure.
01:13:58
Speaker
I got you.
01:13:58
Speaker
But yeah, both these teams are coming off of buys, so there's not really necessarily an advantage there one way or the other.
01:14:06
Speaker
So that was something that immediately cancel each other out.
01:14:10
Speaker
So I started looking into some other aspects of the game.
01:14:14
Speaker
And for me, this was a really tough one.
01:14:16
Speaker
This is a toss up.
01:14:17
Speaker
I'd be absolutely willing to look at going either way.
01:14:20
Speaker
Maybe this is one of those games we put a little higher on.
01:14:22
Speaker
So that way we can go either way to try to try to win the Bucco Bucks at the end like we sometimes do.
01:14:27
Speaker
I like that.
01:14:28
Speaker
I like that.
01:14:28
Speaker
But with all that being said, I did in fact go Chiefs.
01:14:31
Speaker
This game is in Kansas City, which is a well-known hard place to play.
01:14:35
Speaker
I know obviously the Lions went in there and won and some other teams have gone in there and won, but those are just elite teams that we're talking about.
01:14:43
Speaker
And Arrowhead, that was the biggest eye roll I've ever seen.
01:14:50
Speaker
Oh, I wish I could show it to you again and do it double as big.
01:14:54
Speaker
But no, all jokes aside, Arrowhead is a tough place to play.
01:14:58
Speaker
And ultimately what this came down to for me is I think there are some things that need to happen for the Chiefs to win, but I'm confident that they can.
NFL Picks and Thanksgiving Gratitude
01:15:07
Speaker
First and foremost, the Chiefs defense has looked probably the best that it ever has with Patrick Mahomes.
01:15:12
Speaker
And that's saying something.
01:15:14
Speaker
Their defense has been stout.
01:15:16
Speaker
They have been one of the top defenses in the division in terms of yardage allowed, passing, running, all of that.
01:15:24
Speaker
They've been doing a really nice job.
01:15:27
Speaker
Top five, I think it was.
01:15:28
Speaker
I was looking into that today.
01:15:29
Speaker
Yeah.
01:15:31
Speaker
Doing really good.
01:15:32
Speaker
And so for that to be one of the best defenses that Patrick Mahomes has had, getting more time for Patrick Mahomes on the field is key.
01:15:39
Speaker
That is critical.
01:15:41
Speaker
And he does not waste that time.
01:15:45
Speaker
when he is on the field.
01:15:47
Speaker
The thing that I need to see from them this weekend, which I'm slightly concerned about, if you're looking at offensive weapons as a whole, wide receiver room and things of that nature, Eagles definitely with A.J.
01:15:58
Speaker
Brown, I think have the leg up there.
01:16:00
Speaker
So we need to see the Chiefs wide receivers.
01:16:02
Speaker
We need to see somebody other than Travis Kelsey step up in the receiving game.
01:16:09
Speaker
Hopefully, though, the Chiefs will be able to do that.
01:16:12
Speaker
I'm hopeful that they worked on that in their bye.
01:16:14
Speaker
There's a lot of hope going in this one.
01:16:16
Speaker
But ultimately, Big T, don't kill me when I look at it and when it comes down to quarterback play, I'm going to go with Patrick Mahomes.
01:16:25
Speaker
And I'm going to choose the Chiefs in this one at one.
01:16:28
Speaker
Big T.
01:16:30
Speaker
Happy Thanksgiving, brother.
01:16:31
Speaker
I would never have gone against your boys.
01:16:33
Speaker
Just remember that.
01:16:34
Speaker
Just remember that.
01:16:36
Speaker
It's interesting because Bob did text me this past weekend saying that the Chiefs were his new Super Bowl pick.
01:16:42
Speaker
So clearly he's going against your boys in some regard.
01:16:45
Speaker
No, I was kidding when I said that.
01:16:47
Speaker
She's, yeah, hyperbole.
01:16:50
Speaker
I think that's the word.
01:16:51
Speaker
But yeah, no, all jokes aside, great analysis.
01:16:54
Speaker
We will definitely have to talk offline about both of the games that we disagree in with Lions Bears and Eagles Chiefs to decide who we actually want to go with for the actual Bucco Bucs.
01:17:04
Speaker
The Lions Bears.
01:17:05
Speaker
I think they're both toss-ups for sure, so we'll discuss offline.
01:17:09
Speaker
But great episode.
01:17:11
Speaker
Yes.
01:17:11
Speaker
Great episode.
01:17:11
Speaker
The last thing I will say, I'm so sorry.
01:17:14
Speaker
I'm so sorry.
01:17:14
Speaker
No, do it.
01:17:15
Speaker
The last thing I will say for Monday night.
01:17:18
Speaker
Also, I had to pick the Chiefs.
01:17:20
Speaker
Big T, please don't hate me.
01:17:21
Speaker
I'm trying to explain to Big T.
01:17:24
Speaker
The reason I had to choose the Chiefs is because I need the Eagles to lose at least one or two more games so the Lions can have the number one seed.
01:17:30
Speaker
So, sorry, Big T. Sue me.
01:17:32
Speaker
Okay, come after me.
01:17:33
Speaker
I just got a text from Tyrese.
01:17:35
Speaker
Tell her that I absolutely don't forgive her and I hope to never see her.
01:17:39
Speaker
Oh, that's a little far, but oh my gosh.
01:17:41
Speaker
Okay.
01:17:42
Speaker
Well, apology not again.
01:17:43
Speaker
With that being said, I'm done interrupting you, so go ahead.
01:17:46
Speaker
Oh, hey, I was done.
01:17:47
Speaker
This is great.
01:17:48
Speaker
Mac's been out of our game tonight.
01:17:50
Speaker
You'll love to see it.
01:17:51
Speaker
We got a week off.
01:17:53
Speaker
Hopefully when I come back, Mac's going to have a hot, hot wing challenge.
01:17:56
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I'm going to have a lot of boasting to do about the Bears winning.
01:18:00
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And we're going to talk about Turkey Day.
01:18:02
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Speaking of Turkey Day, last thing that we're going to sign off, what's your prediction for Packers-Lions on Thanksgiving?
01:18:08
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Just a quick score prediction because we're not going to get to talk about it before.
01:18:11
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Oh, an easy win for the Lions today.
01:18:14
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35-14.
01:18:14
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Whoa.
01:18:17
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Okay.
01:18:18
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35-14.
01:18:18
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You heard it here first.
01:18:20
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What's your prediction?
01:18:22
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I would say 28.
01:18:23
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Yeah, I guess pretty similar.
01:18:25
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28-10.
01:18:26
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Okay.
01:18:27
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Very similar.
01:18:28
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Also pretty one-sided.
01:18:30
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But yeah, we'll agree on that game for sure.
01:18:33
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Mack?
01:18:34
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Hope you have a very happy Thanksgiving.
01:18:36
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Safe travels.
01:18:38
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I know we won't be talking at all, texting or anything.
01:18:41
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Ever again, probably.
01:18:43
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Between now and then.
01:18:43
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So hope you have a really happy holiday.
01:18:45
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Our Wave Riders, I don't know about Mac, but I am super thankful for all of you.
01:18:50
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Thankful for this platform with Mac, my best friend, and thankful for just football, family, friends, all the Fs.
01:18:58
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Oh my gosh.
01:18:59
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Couldn't have said it better myself.
01:19:01
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Have a happy Thanksgiving, y'all.
01:19:02
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Everybody, be safe.
01:19:03
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Eat some turkey.
01:19:04
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Eat some mashed potatoes.
01:19:06
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Drink some beers.
01:19:07
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And watch some football.
01:19:08
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Go Bears.
01:19:09
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We'll see you in two weeks.
01:19:10
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Go Bears and peace.
01:19:12
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Go Lions.
01:19:13
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Peace.
01:19:24
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Go Lions.
01:19:25
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Merry Christmas.