NFL Week 14 Teasers and Intros
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Lions Bears take two.
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Can you say revenge?
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Let's dive right in.
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Welcome back to Making Waves, an NFL confidence pool podcast.
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I'm your host, Mac.
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And I'm your host, Bob.
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And we are diving into week 14 of the NFL.
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It's hard to believe there's only five weeks left.
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This week included 14, 15, 16, 17, 18.
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Really hard to believe before the playoffs
Spicy Hot Wings Challenge Aftermath
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And things are definitely getting to crunch time for a lot of these teams that are on the bubble and
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These teams that are trying to find their way into a playoff spot.
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And there's a lot of juicy matchups this weekend, but nothing could be juicier than last week's episode with the amount of hot wings that Bob had.
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And just got to check in just a little quality check.
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How is the belly after last week's episode?
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The belly has been bugging me a little bit.
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Last night I had some belly issues.
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I think it was more so dinner I ate the last couple of nights.
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But yeah, it took me a couple of days to fully feel back like myself.
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But it's been a little touch and go for the last seven days.
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I have a smoothie in front of me instead of hot wings with the blazing sauce.
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So yeah, spirits are high.
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I got my DJ Moore jersey on.
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The Bears are coming for a little bit of revenge on Sunday.
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And yeah, things are definitely looking up.
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Things are looking out for you.
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You didn't want to hang out to that blazing sauce for us and try again round two?
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Well, I mean, I finished all of it.
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I put it on my sandwich the next day.
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I put it on my cereal the next morning.
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And I took a little shot before bed that night.
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So I definitely enjoyed all of it for sure.
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Oh, so you used it all up.
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Glad to hear that.
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Glad to hear that.
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From the sound of it, when you first took your bite, I thought for sure you would just throw it right in the trash.
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But it sounds like that wasn't the case.
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Well, I'm super tough and I'm really good with Spice.
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I'm sure everybody that listened to the episode knows that beyond a shadow of a doubt.
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So yeah, I mean, it was a great last Wednesday night for me and I'm excited to maybe do that again in the future.
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It was a great experience.
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It was a great experience for me.
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And if you haven't seen it yet, we did make a little Instagram post for you to be able to see for yourself how well Bob did in the hot take hot wings challenge that we put together for him.
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I certainly got a kick watching back and re-listening to all of the things.
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Now that I know you're okay, it was a lot funnier.
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It was a lot funnier for me when I was listening back rather than like experiencing it in a moment.
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So I enjoyed listening back.
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And yeah, kudos to you.
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You did a really good job making the video montage there.
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That gave me a chuckle and I was the one that was suffering.
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Well, I'm glad that you enjoyed it.
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And as you said, things are looking up.
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Things are looking up in a lot of different ways for you.
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First and foremost, we were pretty close to the Buco Bucks this week.
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I don't want to ruin anything.
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But if you want to give a quick update on how we were not quite there, I am pretty mad at your dad at the moment.
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But I won't spoil anything that you might want to share.
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I'm also a little mad at my dad.
Bucco Bucs Frustration and NFL Picks Reflection
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And the reason that me and Mac are both mad at my dad is because he won the Bucco Bucs again for the third time this season.
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We have won it zero times.
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He is just hogging all the cash, all the Bucco Bucs.
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He's won it three times now.
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And I was congratulating him on Tuesday and he had the audacity to say to me, well, maybe you should just spend a little bit more time on these games rather than just putting your picks in.
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I said, excuse me, me and Mac have a podcast.
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We probably spend more time on these games than everybody else in the league combined.
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Maybe that's a problem.
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Maybe we go back and forth on them so much and we talk each other in and out of games that maybe we shouldn't.
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Maybe that's the issue.
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That could be the issue, but...
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We're not stopping anytime soon.
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I mean, even if it is the issue and we've found the root of the problem, that's not going to stop us.
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This episode will be less than an hour, though.
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That could be the issue, that you keep lying to everybody and just creating bad karma in the universe.
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I could be putting out the bad juju for the hooligans, and now that we're actually going to keep it less than an hour, maybe win the Buka Bucks.
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We'll see this week, but yeah.
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He is now enemy number uno in that league, though.
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So we're coming for you, Chip Shot.
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So, yeah, like Max said, we were near the top, so we did pretty good.
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We only missed a handful of games.
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We missed Steelers against the Cardinals at six, which basically everybody missed.
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Yeah, I don't know what's going on with the Steelers, but we had them at home for six.
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Well, Kenny Pickett is out for a while.
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That's probably what was going on with the Steelers.
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Yeah, but Trubisky came in, and he's got a really good track record.
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He's a great quarterback.
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And, I mean, if anything, it's an upgrade, so I'm just kind of confused.
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I wonder why he's always been like a second stringer then.
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I guess sometimes you just have some bad luck and he's got a lot of it.
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So that's tough for him, bud.
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He's starting this week, so shout out Trubisky.
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We'll send a ton of swag your way.
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We both love you with all our hearts.
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We missed Eagles Niners, and it just stinks that we did that, and I really wanted to go with the Niners, and it just stinks that my co-host wouldn't listen to me, bud.
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Hey, I listened to you.
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The internet did not, because in order to choose that game, Bob and I decided it was such a 50-50 game, or so we thought.
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Sorry, Big T. Apparently it was not.
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Sorry, big T. We let it go to a coin flip.
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And so we did a coin flip simulator online.
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Bob was on the phone, so he saw the coin flip.
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This was not rigged in any way.
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She did FaceTime me.
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And we did a coin flip and I chose heads.
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So obviously I got heads.
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It landed on heads.
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And Bob said, how about best two out of three?
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So we flipped it again.
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And then he said, how about best three out of five?
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So we flipped it again and it was still heads.
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That was the universe telling us to choose the Eagles.
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It was four tails or four heads in a row.
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And then Max said, wow, the app tells me or like the whatever it was says that tails actually is like more than 50%.
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But of course I chose it.
Fun Challenges and Fantasy League Updates
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was like 50.6% versus 49.4% or something to heads.
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And so it just really wanted us to go with the Eagles.
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Based off of what we saw, it's like 90% heads and maybe 10% tails.
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So I call booty on that one.
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But yeah, the universe wanted us to lose, but that was just a point.
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We had Chiefs at 10, and the Packers just keep on rolling and unfortunately lost 10 there.
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And then we had on Monday night the Jags over the Bengals at 9.
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Trevor Lawrence went down at the end of the fourth.
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That game went into overtime, and we lost 9.
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So yeah, we only missed...
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Four games, but obviously 10 and nine points in the last two.
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And we were talking about how we should have just been looking at it.
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We would have switched to the two winning teams.
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We could have won the Bucco book.
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So next week, we're going to be a lot more attentive.
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And yeah, we're coming for those Buccos.
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We're coming for them.
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But yeah, so obviously that wasn't great for you.
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Unfortunately for me, something that was pretty good for you was the Waffle House Challenge.
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Obviously, if everybody will remember, Bob sniped last week.
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He's tried to snipe the double down.
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We did talk offline and he did say I could still do it, even though we thought it maybe would cancel each other out.
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That's so sweet, Bob.
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We ended up still both doing it.
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Because then, you know, now it really screwed me now that I had to do it.
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Now I'm down back to four instead of two.
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Wait, why does Korea, are you saying that I just won two out of three again?
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Is this becoming a little bit of a trend?
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It did screw me because if I still had my double down, if only I still had my double down.
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I would still have a shot.
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Wait, but weren't you going to use it and then I just got to use it as well?
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I was going to, but then you sniped me and then we talked offline and you convinced me to still use it.
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So still your fault.
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Oh, I convinced you to still use it.
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Also, that's crazy that you said I was the one that said best three out of five, best four out of seven, because I don't remember doing that either.
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I remember you saying, let's try three out of five.
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Oh, let's try four to seven.
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That you really did do.
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Okay, maybe I'll give that to you.
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I'm just trying to find a way to put it on you.
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The coin flip, 1,000%.
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She's like, let's try 51 out of 100.
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I'm like, okay, I have to work.
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This is getting insane.
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This is getting crazy.
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How was that book you were reading during work the other day anyway?
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I hope my boss doesn't listen to this.
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That was a low blow.
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And it was a great book, by the way.
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Thank you very much.
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I'm so glad you enjoyed it.
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Thank you very little.
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I'm so glad you enjoyed it.
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I just was putting it out there so people would know who is telling the truth when you said, oh, I got to work.
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Hey, working hard or hardly working, I am always working very hard.
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Oh, sure, sure, sure.
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But yeah, I mean, things are looking good in the Wallflower Challenge for me.
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I recently re-jumped Mac in first place for Fantasy, so things are looking good there.
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Hey, you can have that, because I was actually looking at the opponents of who would be first in your side of the bracket versus mine, and you can have first place, I've decided.
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You would either have to face my dad and Wendy or Eli versus the other two options, I think, are Carly and Kelsey.
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No offense, Carly and Kelsey, but.
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What are you saying about your sisters?
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I'm saying they're a little less attentive to fantasy football than my dad and Eli are.
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Well, you know what?
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To be the best, you got to beat the best and I'm ready to beat the best.
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So you'll have to try and beat me.
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You'll have to try to beat me.
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You'll have to try to beat me.
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No, you're Miss 9 and 4.
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You're Miss 9 and 4.
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How's the weather down there?
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That doesn't mean that I'm not the best.
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We'll find out in a few weeks.
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We'll find out here.
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But yeah, not only actual playoffs heating up, fantasy playoffs are heating up.
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And then obviously these division races coming down to the wire.
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So we got a lot to look forward to.
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Waffle House challenges going down to the wire.
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It is going to be a fun next handful of weeks.
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And with that, should we dive into a little bit of injury updates here?
Steelers' QB Challenges and Match Previews
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So as mentioned already, obviously, Kenny Pickett got hurt in this last weekend's game.
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He is anticipated to be out for a little while.
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So they will likely start with Mitch Trubisky moving forward.
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Thank you for saying his name correctly.
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Thank you for saying his name correctly that time.
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Oh, you're welcome.
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That was really sweet.
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Obviously, you already mentioned Trevor Lawrence on the Jags.
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He, I believe, suffered a high ankle sprain.
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It's likely that he'll miss a few weeks moving forward.
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They haven't necessarily listed him as not playing this weekend or anything like that.
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So we'll want to watch that.
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But I can't imagine he's going to be playing with that high ankle sprain.
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Beyond that, I would have to agree.
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I think those were the main really big injuries, but another note, I guess, for quarterbacks and who's going to be playing, who's not going to be playing for the Vikings this upcoming weekend.
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There is question as to who is going to start at quarterback for them.
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I believe there's, there's a lot of talk that Mr. Dobbs will be, will be benched.
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Oh, unless do you have some news on that, Bob?
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Wish I would have sent you this.
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I just saw on the train back from school that Dobbs was named a starter.
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I am surprised by that.
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They were talking for a bit that they were going to bench him because he just doesn't have the experience with the offense as needed.
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And their whole game plan, essentially, they pretty much revealed it, is to get the ball to Justin Jefferson.
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And they said they were a little worried about that with Dobbs.
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Yeah, I just saw that he, O'Connell, whatever the coaches named, named him the starter.
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And a lot of people apparently in Vikings land are not too pleased about that.
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Because last time he was on the field, he threw four interceptions to, I mean, the best team in the NFC.
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But yeah, that team from Chicago.
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Well, that may be one I consider switching around.
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We'll look at it later on.
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But I was questioning who might be playing for the Vikings.
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Just dig yourself a little deeper into that waffle hole.
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I still have five weeks left.
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So I'm feeling OK, especially about one of the games this weekend.
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But with that, spoiler alert, but with that, we can jump in Thursday night, 8, 15 PM, kicking it off the most riveting Thursday night game of all time.
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A few weeks ago, when we asked Nick this question, can you think of a worse Thursday night football game than the bears versus Panthers?
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Arguably, the Patriots-Steelers this Thursday night would be right up there for contention.
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So this is not a very exciting Thursday night game.
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Patriots, unfortunately, have not been doing well whatsoever.
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I saw a stat that they are the first team since...
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God knows how long that has allowed the past five wins, but have only allowed teams to put up 10 or less points.
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So they've been losing, but still holding teams to 10.
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And it may have been the first team ever to do that five games in a row.
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But I think it was something like 50 years or something crazy.
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So I did see that in a very nice nugget to start the episode.
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Yeah, not doing great there.
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Obviously, on defense, doing okay, but their offense just has nada.
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So although I don't know that the Steelers have too, too much going for them, obviously their quarterback just got hurt.
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Ultimately, a team that can't score points isn't going to win the game regardless of how their defense does.
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So I think the Steelers just have the slight edge here.
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It is also at home at Akersher Stadium there in Pittsburgh.
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So I'm going with the Steelers.
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I'm keeping them kind of low because these are two meh teams, and you don't know what's going to happen with the backup, but I've got them at five.
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We are off to a rough start here right off the bat.
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You really believe in Mitch, huh?
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We're eight points off on this one.
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I got the Steelers for third.
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I got the sealers for 13.
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We are not putting them at high.
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Are you the judge?
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Are you the judge and jury over here?
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Yes, judge jury and executioner.
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Oh my, well, who's getting executioned?
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Did I say executioned?
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She said you and then went like this over her neck like she was cutting my head off.
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So that was really, that was a nice feeling.
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Thank you for that.
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13 with Mitch in just because the Patriots are so bad.
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Like you can't think the Steelers are that good, right?
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I think they're a whole hell of a lot better than the Patriots.
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13 points worth, especially playing at Heinz, Heinz Field.
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It's not Heinz Field.
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I don't know what you do, what your company stands for, but this podcast calls it Heinz Field.
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Thank you very much.
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Yeah, between these two offenses, yeah, the Steelers just lost by two touchdowns at home to the Cardinals, which is crazy.
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But at least the Cardinals have a little bit of firepower in their offense.
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The Patriots just got shut out by the Chargers the weekend before they scored less than a touchdown, the weekend before they scored 10 points, and the weekend before they scored like three points.
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So they just can literally not score any points.
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On top of the fact that Ramondre Stevenson is out.
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He's their best playmaker.
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So now Zeke Elliott, who's also kind of hobbled, is their number one running back.
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And I think the Patriots are in full-on tank mode while the Steelers are still fighting for a playoff spot.
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I think if the playoffs started right now, the Steelers would literally be a playoff team.
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Right now they are, what is their record?
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Why is it not pulling up?
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Why is it not pulling up?
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Yeah, they've got recent wins against.
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They beat the Bengals.
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They beat the Packers.
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Yeah, they had a really tough game, obviously, on Sunday, but they're still over.500.
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And the Patriots now are the second worst team record-wise in the NFL at 2-10.
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So that's why I am so confident that not only Tomlin will have the boys ready, but Trubisky is not coming off the bench cold.
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He has a full week of practice.
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And I think this team is going to just rock and roll right over Bill Belichick's Brokaw's offense.
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I mean, I definitely think, obviously, offensively, as I said, the Patriots have nothing.
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But the Patriots have also held their past five opponents to less than 10 points a game.
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And the Steelers, I'm not like, oh, my gosh, that electric offense of theirs.
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You know what I mean?
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So I think that's where my trepidation, ooh, good word, comes into play.
NFL Game Predictions and Bets
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You know, it's not like the Steelers have this high โ
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firepower offense either.
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So I could definitely see them being held to a low number and that just scares me.
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I totally feel that.
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And that's actually a really good point.
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This could end up being like a six to three ball game.
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That is a little scurry.
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So, I mean, while I certainly agree the Steelers could win, I'm happy to look at going higher.
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I don't know if I'm willing to go 13 high, but we'll talk about it.
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The fact that you said 13 is crazy.
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I'd like you to come a little closer to my five.
00:19:13
Speaker
So we'll meet in the middle for sure.
00:19:18
Speaker
Well, hopefully the rest of these games kind of start to align a little bit more.
00:19:22
Speaker
Let's move into Sunday, 1 o'clock p.m.
00:19:24
Speaker
First up, we have the Bucs at Falcons.
00:19:28
Speaker
And that's an interesting division in and of itself is the NFC South.
00:19:33
Speaker
I know the Falcons currently are in the playoffs, but I don't know.
00:19:37
Speaker
I feel like anything could happen with that division.
00:19:38
Speaker
But what you got going for that game?
00:19:41
Speaker
I completely agree, and I wish you would have saved your five for this game because then I could have gone ding-de-la-ding, ding-ding-ding-ding because I got five on the Falcons.
00:19:48
Speaker
And, yeah, I just think Hotlanta, this is a team that is kind of just hitting their stride at the right time.
00:19:54
Speaker
B. John Robinson is making fantasy owners all over the country very happy like myself.
00:20:00
Speaker
And the Bucs, they were a once 3-1 team.
00:20:03
Speaker
They are literally 1-7 in their last eight games.
00:20:06
Speaker
They are โ they could not be terrible.
00:20:11
Speaker
Yeah, they really hit a bump, didn't they?
00:20:14
Speaker
They hit a massive bump, and it just took everything they had on Sunday afternoon at home to beat the worst team in the NFL, the Panthers.
00:20:23
Speaker
The only bright spot on that team is Rashad White.
00:20:26
Speaker
He seems to get a touchdown or two every single game, but the defense is meh.
00:20:30
Speaker
The offense, other than Mike Evans and Rashad White, meh.
00:20:34
Speaker
And the Falcons are turning into a team that people kind of expected them to be in the offseason, and
00:20:40
Speaker
Yeah, they're getting the ball to Pitts.
00:20:41
Speaker
They're getting the ball to Drake London.
00:20:43
Speaker
And that offense is hemming and hawing a little bit.
00:20:44
Speaker
So just because it's a division.
00:20:48
Speaker
Yeah, it definitely is.
00:20:49
Speaker
Just because this is like an inter-division matchup, that's why I kind of kept it a little bit more tempered.
00:20:53
Speaker
But I think the Falcons are going to handle business at home.
00:20:56
Speaker
And yeah, like I said, five.
00:21:00
Speaker
This is a little bit more our speed.
00:21:02
Speaker
I'm glad we're getting a little bit in sync because I know we're going to be way off sync for the next game.
00:21:07
Speaker
But yes, I have the Falcons at six.
00:21:13
Speaker
So yes, obviously we've already done this once already this season.
00:21:19
Speaker
It feels like it was just yesterday we did this, but it's time again to discuss the Lions at Bears.
00:21:24
Speaker
This game is in Chicago.
00:21:27
Speaker
It's amazing that I always seem to get these games, but you always disagree with me, so you get your rebuttal.
00:21:35
Speaker
That's why I said damn it under my breath because of course you have the first word in this game.
00:21:41
Speaker
Well, you get the last word.
00:21:42
Speaker
That's the nice part.
00:21:43
Speaker
Am I actually going to get the last word?
00:21:49
Speaker
But yes, okay, this game obviously is in Chicago.
00:21:51
Speaker
The first one did not go great for my boys in terms of how we played throughout the entire game.
00:21:58
Speaker
I'll give you that.
00:21:59
Speaker
The Bears really made us look like absolute doo-doo.
00:22:04
Speaker
And thank goodness my boys hung in it.
00:22:08
Speaker
Got that record last four minutes of the game, scoring more than 12 points.
00:22:12
Speaker
That was a record for the season.
00:22:17
Speaker
Obviously would have liked for it to have been a little bit cushier.
00:22:20
Speaker
I don't really like when they give me heart attacks like this, especially playing against other NFC North teams.
00:22:28
Speaker
I think the reality is the Bears kind of put us on a little bit of a sputter.
00:22:33
Speaker
And I think we needed a little kick in the pants, if I'm honest.
00:22:36
Speaker
They didn't look great.
00:22:38
Speaker
Yeah, they didn't look great against the Bears.
00:22:40
Speaker
Then we went out and lost against the Packers.
00:22:43
Speaker
And things were looking bad for a minute.
00:22:46
Speaker
I was really starting to feel bad about my team, bad about myself.
00:22:51
Speaker
Just not looking forward.
00:22:54
Speaker
As he's pumping his fists.
00:22:56
Speaker
Well, and then you said bad about yourself, so I stopped.
00:22:59
Speaker
And he's over there staring like, yes, yes, feel bad about yourself.
00:23:03
Speaker
Yeah, I don't know.
00:23:04
Speaker
I was expecting you to say you felt bad about yourself because your football team was losing.
00:23:08
Speaker
Oh, you know, just because of your fandom, you just start to question everything in life.
00:23:12
Speaker
Things were not looking good.
00:23:14
Speaker
And then, last week against the Saints...
00:23:17
Speaker
Seven minutes into the game, we were up 21-0.
00:23:21
Speaker
We scored three back-to-back-to-back touchdowns.
00:23:25
Speaker
And everybody's going to say, well, you let them come back in.
00:23:29
Speaker
Okay, yes, that's accurate.
00:23:30
Speaker
But you cannot keep that pace for an entire football game.
00:23:34
Speaker
So let's just be clear about that.
00:23:36
Speaker
It's still extremely impressive to score three touchdowns in seven minutes against a pretty formidable opponent in the Saints' defense.
00:23:43
Speaker
They have a pretty solid defense.
00:23:45
Speaker
Their offense, meh, not great.
00:23:47
Speaker
But their defense is not bad.
00:23:49
Speaker
So I think we're getting a bit of our spark back just in time for us to start kind of gearing up, heading into January, heading into the playoffs, looking forward to the postseason.
00:24:01
Speaker
I thought you were just about to say heading into February.
00:24:03
Speaker
I was going to say, whoa, whoa, hit the brakes a little bit.
00:24:05
Speaker
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
00:24:06
Speaker
Let's not count our chickens before they hatch.
00:24:09
Speaker
But all that to say, I think we're getting our spark back a little bit.
00:24:12
Speaker
Goff needed to settle down with his interceptions and all of those.
00:24:16
Speaker
He really needed to calm it down a bit.
00:24:18
Speaker
He showed that he did last week, and I'm hopeful that that's going to roll over and continue forward.
00:24:23
Speaker
We've got our momentum back.
00:24:24
Speaker
So that's why I've got the Lions this weekend, obviously.
00:24:35
Speaker
And I have them at nine.
00:24:37
Speaker
No, no, no, no, no.
00:24:42
Speaker
Are you being facetious?
00:24:43
Speaker
No, I'm being dead serious.
00:24:46
Speaker
The disrespect is unbelievable.
00:24:53
Speaker
You're telling me you put the Steelers over the Patriots at five, and then the Falcons over the Bucs at six, and the Lions over the Bears at nine?
00:25:05
Speaker
My boys are going to hear this and that's all they're going to need.
00:25:09
Speaker
They're not going to need any warmups.
00:25:11
Speaker
They're not going to be needing any free workout.
00:25:13
Speaker
They're not going to need to eat for days before the game.
00:25:17
Speaker
Other than hearing this, I'm pumped up.
00:25:19
Speaker
They're pumped up.
00:25:20
Speaker
And boy, oh boy, my friend, you are not going to be a happy camper on Sunday afternoon.
00:25:28
Speaker
First and foremost, I believe that you came up with the
00:25:34
Speaker
Hot Ones Challenge from the last time the Bears played the Lions, correct?
00:25:41
Speaker
And I lost fair and square.
00:25:43
Speaker
We did have the fantasy wrinkle on that as well.
00:25:48
Speaker
And it was a two for one package and I lost both.
00:25:51
Speaker
Unfortunately, I don't play you in fantasy this weekend, so we can't really do anything with that.
00:25:55
Speaker
But I have a different proposal if you're willing to hear me out.
00:26:00
Speaker
Okay, I'll hear you out.
00:26:02
Speaker
So while we don't play each other in fantasy, we still have the same situation.
00:26:09
Speaker
So this is what I'm thinking.
00:26:12
Speaker
So if either of our teams wins and that same person outscores the other's fantasy team, then they would have to do this challenge.
00:26:22
Speaker
So it's the same thing.
00:26:24
Speaker
Okay, what's the challenge?
00:26:27
Speaker
So there's a couple different options.
00:26:30
Speaker
I was looking up good food challenges because the only things I could think of in my head were like the donut challenge, which I don't want to do that.
00:26:36
Speaker
And you've already been through that, been there, done that.
00:26:39
Speaker
The fans have seen that.
00:26:39
Speaker
And let's keep in mind that I am well on my way to having to eat 24 waffles.
00:26:46
Speaker
And I know that the wave makers and myself cannot wait to see that.
00:26:50
Speaker
And we're counting down the days.
00:26:52
Speaker
But the ones that I found is number one, it's called the chubby bunny challenge.
00:26:59
Speaker
And it's how many marshmallows you can fit into your mouth.
00:27:02
Speaker
So each time you put a marshmallow in your mouth, you have to say chubby bunny.
00:27:05
Speaker
You have to say chubby bunny, yes.
00:27:06
Speaker
And it's like a big one.
00:27:07
Speaker
So my thought was each game.
00:27:10
Speaker
As far as the other person could do it, they'd have to put one mega marshmallow in the mouth.
00:27:15
Speaker
Oh, while they're talking?
00:27:16
Speaker
Oh my gosh, that's hilarious.
00:27:18
Speaker
So that's option number one.
00:27:20
Speaker
Option number two, and we've talked about this one before, I think it'd be hilarious, is to have some Ritz or some random soup crackers and just have to eat crackers all episode with no water and just fight through it.
00:27:35
Speaker
Or three, this is a little too close to home from last week, so I'm hoping you don't pick this one, eat a tablespoon of wasabi and then just let it ride all episode.
00:27:47
Speaker
So those are the three top challenges that I found, and I'd love to hear your thoughts.
00:27:53
Speaker
Well, I would say I'm glad they're not like you have to eat as many as you can in this amount of time because โ
00:28:02
Speaker
You already did the Hot Wings one.
00:28:04
Speaker
Like I said, I'm kind of on my way to the Waffle House one, so I'm grateful for that.
00:28:08
Speaker
So I'd be more willing to do one of these.
00:28:11
Speaker
But yeah, no, I would do one of these.
00:28:13
Speaker
I would say, yeah, maybe not the Wasabi one.
00:28:16
Speaker
I don't think I would pick that one, but I'd be fine with the other two.
00:28:21
Speaker
All right, we'll talk offline and then we will let y'all know what we come up with.
00:28:29
Speaker
But back to this game.
00:28:30
Speaker
And I don't know why I'm nervous because it's going to be you.
00:28:34
Speaker
Wait, and what happens if we split?
00:28:36
Speaker
What happens if the Lions win and you score more in fantasy?
00:28:42
Speaker
Or what if the Bears win and you score more in fantasy?
00:28:45
Speaker
Either or, obviously.
00:28:45
Speaker
Okay, either or, yes.
00:28:48
Speaker
You said the crazy scenario.
00:28:50
Speaker
Then it's just a wash.
00:28:52
Speaker
Okay, fair enough.
00:28:56
Speaker
I'm shaking virtually, yep.
00:28:59
Speaker
Okay, so back to this game.
00:29:02
Speaker
Obviously, I'm going Bears.
00:29:04
Speaker
And when I hopped on this podcast, I said, hello.
00:29:08
Speaker
And out from the floor popped up Mac and Nick and they were lying in Summit's dog bed.
00:29:14
Speaker
And the first thing I thought was, man, the Lions have Mac down bad.
00:29:17
Speaker
She's just down and out.
00:29:19
Speaker
She's laying in the dog bed.
00:29:21
Speaker
She's saying she's down on herself on the podcast.
00:29:25
Speaker
And unfortunately for you, I think the Lions are going to continue this downward trend.
00:29:33
Speaker
Well, I know they've won two out of the last three, but it could have been zero in the last three.
00:29:40
Speaker
And it's just the defense is not looking normal.
00:29:43
Speaker
And the offense is looking a little off.
00:29:46
Speaker
And it just seems like something's happened in the Lions.
00:29:49
Speaker
Like, I don't know, the Lions...
00:29:53
Speaker
succinctness that they had early in the season.
00:29:54
Speaker
And it just doesn't feel the same.
00:29:56
Speaker
Now on the other side of the code with my boys, it seems like we're kind of just hitting our stride.
00:30:00
Speaker
Yes, we, we lost to the lions, but then we just beat the Vikings in Minnesota and we just had a bi-week.
00:30:07
Speaker
Justin is completely healthy.
00:30:09
Speaker
DJ Moore just surpassed a thousand yards on the season.
00:30:12
Speaker
Montez sweat, fully, fully incorporated in our defense.
00:30:16
Speaker
We got pressure on the quarterback, AKA Josh Dobbs all night, which is so good to see.
00:30:21
Speaker
And we held them to, uh,
00:30:23
Speaker
not 10 points the entire game.
00:30:25
Speaker
So I just feel like between us just about basically being so close to beating the Lions in Detroit, then beating the Vikings in Minnesota, this is a revenge game for me.
00:30:36
Speaker
This is a revenge game for us from a couple weekends ago.
00:30:39
Speaker
And I truly, truly, truly think the Bears are going to win this game.
00:30:43
Speaker
Two weeks ago or three weeks ago when we played, I did not think the Bears are going to win.
00:30:46
Speaker
I was being a jackass.
00:30:47
Speaker
I'm like, I can't choose the Lions.
00:30:48
Speaker
This weekend, I legitimately think, I don't think we're going to,
00:30:53
Speaker
Why did I say that?
00:30:54
Speaker
I think we have a really good chance.
00:30:56
Speaker
Truly, truly, truly.
00:30:57
Speaker
I think we're going to win.
00:30:58
Speaker
I don't think we're going to win, but why did I say that?
00:31:02
Speaker
What I meant to say is I'm not confident we're going to win, but I think we're going to win.
00:31:05
Speaker
That's why I kept us at a respectful three, unlike her nine.
00:31:10
Speaker
And I can't wait for you to have to say chubby bunny after the Bears win and my boys win or in my fantasy.
00:31:17
Speaker
How about after every marshmallow, you have to say go Lions or go Bears?
00:31:22
Speaker
Why did you say go lions first?
00:31:25
Speaker
Well, because it's going to be you.
00:31:27
Speaker
So you'll have to say, go Bears, and then put it in.
00:31:31
Speaker
And then go with the rest of the conversation that we're having.
00:31:36
Speaker
Okay, and this is going to be more chaos, because I think next week is Christmas chaos, because European trips after that.
00:31:41
Speaker
So it's going to be Marshmallow plus Christmas chaos.
00:31:44
Speaker
I don't know if we can do them both in one, because Christmas chaos, we usually go through like three weeks.
00:31:47
Speaker
I don't know if it's going to be possible.
00:31:50
Speaker
Well, in that case, I really hope that your fantasy team scores more than me, or more than mine, because otherwise you're going to be marshmallowing it up.
00:31:58
Speaker
All right, we'll see if it's going to be before or after.
00:32:01
Speaker
There's enough going on next week.
00:32:03
Speaker
We will chat about it.
00:32:07
Speaker
All right, well, there's our arguments, and I guess we'll have to see what happens on Sunday.
00:32:13
Speaker
Looking ahead to the next game, we have the Indianapolis Colts at Cincinnati Bengals.
00:32:21
Speaker
Speaking of arguments, this is the second game that we disagree on.
00:32:27
Speaker
So I'm going to do a quick argument because I just looked up and we're already at 32 and a half minutes.
00:32:31
Speaker
How the heck did that happen?
00:32:32
Speaker
We're at a 10 minute per game pace.
00:32:34
Speaker
Time just gets away from us.
00:32:36
Speaker
Time flies when we're having fun.
00:32:38
Speaker
This is a tough game, really tough game.
00:32:42
Speaker
But I'm going to Cincinnati completely based off of what I saw on
00:32:47
Speaker
And I know we haven't been doing wave makers of the week this season, but this is like, in my opinion, the most obvious wave maker of the week that we've had in 2023.
00:32:57
Speaker
And it's Jake Browning.
00:32:58
Speaker
Did you watch Monday night?
00:33:00
Speaker
I did not watch, but I did.
00:33:02
Speaker
I mean, the fact that they won, that is an incredible showing by, by him to come in for Cincinnati, Cincinnati in Joe Burrow's shoes and to win that game.
00:33:13
Speaker
He literally went 27 of 32 for over 300 yards passing, one touchdown, and they only threw one interception on the game, and it was Tyler Boyd that threw it.
00:33:23
Speaker
It wasn't Jake Browning.
00:33:24
Speaker
Oh, yep, yep, you're right.
00:33:26
Speaker
So Browning had a nearly perfect passer rating, and he was doing it against a team that if they would have won, the Jags, they would have been the number one seed right now in the AFC, and it was in Jacksonville.
00:33:37
Speaker
So it's not like he had his first start at home against, you know,
00:33:42
Speaker
the Patriots or someone like that.
00:33:44
Speaker
It was against one of the best teams in the AFC in their house on national TV.
00:33:49
Speaker
So shouts out to Jake Brown.
00:33:53
Speaker
He was throwing the ball downfield.
00:33:55
Speaker
He was getting the ball to Jamar chase.
00:33:58
Speaker
Mixon had his first two touchdown game in a while.
00:34:01
Speaker
And yeah, this Bengals team all of a sudden is six and six again.
00:34:05
Speaker
They're right back in the thick of it.
00:34:07
Speaker
Colts also, they're a feel-good story, but they really struggled on Sunday against the Titans.
00:34:12
Speaker
They had to go into overtime to win that game, and I just still don't really trust Gardner Minshew.
00:34:17
Speaker
So between Minshew and Browning, that's kind of like a wash in my opinion right now.
00:34:22
Speaker
It's in Cincinnati, which is a big home field advantage, and I think the rest of the weapons that Cincinnati has are greater than what Indianapolis has, and I think the defense on Cincinnati and just the
00:34:34
Speaker
experience in games in December and January from the last couple of years when it matters is going to trump the Colts.
00:34:40
Speaker
So that's why I have the Bengals at a field goal, too.
00:34:46
Speaker
A field goal, too.
00:34:49
Speaker
Yeah, those are all really good arguments.
00:34:50
Speaker
And definitely this is one I went back and forth on.
00:34:53
Speaker
This is not a 9-3 Lions-Bears situation, so don't worry there.
00:34:56
Speaker
Yeah, I did go back and forth.
00:34:59
Speaker
I certainly agree.
00:35:00
Speaker
I think he did a great job, obviously, against Jacksonville.
00:35:03
Speaker
I credit some of that to the fact that Lawrence went down.
00:35:08
Speaker
I think they would have lost that game.
00:35:09
Speaker
Was he still in it?
00:35:10
Speaker
But still, that was in the fourth quarter, I believe you said.
00:35:13
Speaker
So did a lot there.
00:35:16
Speaker
I think the reason for me, and granted, I did not watch this full game.
00:35:19
Speaker
And I got to give you credit for that because you watch way more games than I do.
00:35:23
Speaker
So I certainly think that you are...
00:35:26
Speaker
And this is honest, this is not me being facetious, but I think you definitely have a lot more general knowledge of teams.
00:35:33
Speaker
So we got to take that into consideration in credit because you watch a lot more games than me.
00:35:38
Speaker
But from what I saw from the clips is that, yes, he did have those stats, but I think they were slightly skewed just because from what I saw from the clips, almost all of his passes, well, a ton of them, not almost all, but
00:35:52
Speaker
A ton of them were screen dumps to the side, to Mixon, to Chase, trying to get him comfortable and just screen passes, screen passes, screen passes.
00:36:02
Speaker
And yards after the catch were a lot of what was responsible for those points.
00:36:08
Speaker
And I know he had a beautiful dime to Jamar Chase down the field, incredible, loosened some things up.
00:36:13
Speaker
But I think a lot of those catches were just like screen passes and dumps.
00:36:19
Speaker
Yes, obviously it did on Monday night, but I don't think it will always work.
00:36:23
Speaker
One game I did kind of watch, though, was the Colts game this past weekend against the Titans because we were very invested in it.
00:36:30
Speaker
In the Colts defense, yes, it's Gardner Minshew, not great, but the Colts defense is actually pretty solid.
00:36:37
Speaker
I think they're like a top five defense, at least statistically speaking right now.
00:36:42
Speaker
And so I think that's something to consider against a newer quarterback,
00:36:48
Speaker
I think she's clearing her throat.
00:36:50
Speaker
I just had to clear my throat real quick.
00:36:53
Speaker
And that is something to consider there against a newer quarterback.
00:36:57
Speaker
I would also say, obviously, I think Browning did really well coming out after a full week of practice as the starter because it was just two weeks ago that he jumped in for Joe Burrow.
00:37:07
Speaker
But there's also now more film on him, which we've talked about that before as well, that some of these newer quarterbacks, they do โ
00:37:14
Speaker
pretty good in the beginning at times because nobody really knows what they're going to do, how they're going to play him, what type of offensive style they're going to use.
00:37:23
Speaker
I think there's a little bit more film on him now, so I could see the Colts taking advantage of that.
00:37:28
Speaker
Ultimately, I'm not super confident in this game.
00:37:30
Speaker
I would feel a lot better if it was like
00:37:33
Speaker
Joe Burrell, I would feel really good going with the Bengals or something if it was more like, I don't know, 100% one way or the other.
00:37:40
Speaker
But that's the fun of football.
00:37:41
Speaker
So I'm going with the Colts, and I've got them at an actual field goal of three.
00:37:45
Speaker
Okay, so ding, ding, ding, but opposite.
00:37:48
Speaker
Two field goals here.
00:37:50
Speaker
Two field goals for two different points, three and two.
00:37:54
Speaker
Absolutely love it.
00:37:54
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, I feel like we both made a lot of good points, so this might be...
00:37:58
Speaker
Excuse me, this might be coming down to another, like one of the classic coin flip situations.
00:38:04
Speaker
Might have the universe taking the reins on this one again.
00:38:08
Speaker
Maybe the universe has to take the reins on both those games.
00:38:15
Speaker
All right, well, I have a feeling the rest of the games will hopefully move a little faster because those are actually the only two we disagree on.
00:38:21
Speaker
But next up, we have the Jags, the Jacksonville Jaguars at the Cleveland Browns.
Team Performance Analysis and Predictions
00:38:28
Speaker
And first and foremost, I almost went Jags on this one because I almost totally forgot that Trevor Lawrence went down with that high ankle sprain.
00:38:37
Speaker
Their backup quarterback is...
00:38:40
Speaker
Shoot, I read about it.
00:38:43
Speaker
Yes, that's right.
00:38:45
Speaker
And so, I don't know.
00:38:48
Speaker
Had Trevor Lawrence been in, when I saw, when I sent over the picks and I saw that Bob had gone Browns, I was like, Ooh, I think I could switch and get a game here.
00:39:00
Speaker
But no, I was like, Oh shoot, Trevor Lawrence is out.
00:39:03
Speaker
Not going to do that.
00:39:07
Speaker
Well, not gonna with him being out.
00:39:09
Speaker
If he comes back, I'm going to be watching that injury report very closely.
00:39:13
Speaker
If for some miracle he comes in place, then maybe I will.
00:39:18
Speaker
But for now, being in Cleveland, the Browns, not a great team by any means, have not been that good, in my opinion, since Deshaun Watson has been out.
00:39:28
Speaker
I know their defense can be pretty solid, but ultimately they haven't really been making the same waves that they were originally.
00:39:35
Speaker
But I'm still going to go with them here just because of that injury to the Jags, and I'm going to go with them at four.
00:39:43
Speaker
Ding-de-de-ding-ding-ding-ding-ding-ding.
00:39:46
Speaker
We have our first match.
00:39:49
Speaker
I just love doing that so much.
00:39:50
Speaker
My favorite part of this podcast.
00:39:55
Speaker
I know there's not too, too many things to like.
00:39:57
Speaker
That's got to be number one.
00:39:58
Speaker
It has to be because it's so much fun.
00:40:00
Speaker
There's not much else to like about this.
00:40:02
Speaker
There's really not, especially when I'm eating blazing sauce.
00:40:06
Speaker
But no, I will keep this one short and sweet.
00:40:09
Speaker
I hope I actually will this time, but I totally agree with CJ Bathard or Bethard.
00:40:16
Speaker
man in the center for Jacksonville and them having a short week and him having a short week of practice.
00:40:22
Speaker
I just don't think him coming in against one of the best defenses in the NFL and the Browns is going to be very pretty for him.
00:40:28
Speaker
As Mac alluded to awesome word, the Browns offense is also a little lethargic, another good word, but I just think it with them being at home and CJ coming in cold and not, not being a great backup.
00:40:42
Speaker
I think the Browns are going to pull this one off.
00:40:45
Speaker
Yeah, confidence level of four, like Max said.
00:40:49
Speaker
Sounds like a plan.
00:40:51
Speaker
Next up, we have the Carolina Panthers at New Orleans Saints.
00:40:59
Speaker
Did you end up hearing from Steve and Patty?
00:41:01
Speaker
Shout out, Steve and Patty.
00:41:02
Speaker
Thanks for listening in again.
00:41:04
Speaker
They were at the game.
00:41:04
Speaker
Did they have a fun time in the bayou?
00:41:06
Speaker
They did have a fun time.
00:41:08
Speaker
They did have a fun time.
00:41:09
Speaker
I think it was even more fun considering they got the W there.
00:41:13
Speaker
Probably had a really fun couple minutes and then a very stressful hour and a half and then a really fun end of the game and celebration after the game.
00:41:20
Speaker
I would imagine because that's how I felt on the couch.
00:41:23
Speaker
You were, you were pumped.
00:41:24
Speaker
I was at the sound of music with my dad.
00:41:26
Speaker
I know you were doing what during NFL.
00:41:28
Speaker
I was at the sound of music and my dad dressed up as one of the characters.
00:41:31
Speaker
He was up on the stage.
00:41:32
Speaker
It was unbelievable.
00:41:33
Speaker
Like I said, you watch so many football games.
00:41:36
Speaker
Oh my, I'm at sound of music.
00:41:38
Speaker
She's saying I'm watching all these games.
00:41:40
Speaker
I missed the whole first set almost.
00:41:43
Speaker
So obviously I couldn't have my phone on in there because I don't want to be that guy in a packed theater of this sing-along looking at scores.
00:41:50
Speaker
So, of course, the second it ended, I looked at my phone and I had a couple of group messages, a couple of fantasy messages.
00:41:56
Speaker
And I saw one from Mac right at the top that said, my boys are crushing it.
00:42:00
Speaker
I was like, okay, the Lions must be up by like a million.
00:42:03
Speaker
And I looked at it.
00:42:05
Speaker
And I was like, something happened in this game.
00:42:10
Speaker
Yeah, I think you looked at it much later than when I probably sent that.
00:42:14
Speaker
I think it was about two and a half hours after you sent that.
00:42:18
Speaker
A little later, but obviously your boys ended up getting a win and a win is a win in the NFL.
00:42:23
Speaker
But the reason I bring that up is because the Saints are a pretty pesky team and they have been fighting back a lot throughout the season.
00:42:30
Speaker
And that's the reason that they've won, in my opinion, a couple of games that they probably shouldn't have.
00:42:35
Speaker
And they've won a couple more games than I think we both expected.
00:42:39
Speaker
that they would have at this point in the season.
00:42:41
Speaker
So that's why they're still in the race for the super powerful NFC South.
00:42:45
Speaker
That division is stacked with good teams.
00:42:52
Speaker
Obviously I joke, maybe the worst division of all time.
00:42:55
Speaker
No offense, New Orleans, Carolina, Atlanta, and Tampa Bay will send you swag.
00:43:01
Speaker
But lucky for them this Sunday, they're playing the worst team in the division and in the NFL.
00:43:06
Speaker
The Panthers just don't have anything going for them.
00:43:09
Speaker
They picked the wrong quarterback.
00:43:10
Speaker
They don't have weapons, and they have a bad defense.
00:43:12
Speaker
So for that reason, this is scary because the Saints are not a good team either, but I'm going double digits, and I'm going as low in the double digits as you can at 10.
00:43:24
Speaker
Ding-a-ling-a-ling-a-ling-a-ling.
00:43:26
Speaker
Dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun.
00:43:33
Speaker
I am also going Saints.
00:43:34
Speaker
I am also going lowest of the double digits.
00:43:37
Speaker
I am also going 10.
00:43:40
Speaker
See, that's how you do it quick.
00:43:42
Speaker
You have to ding, ding, ding, ding.
00:43:44
Speaker
Do you want me to do like you and be like, okay, so yeah, I won't spend too much time because I agree.
00:43:49
Speaker
Let me just reiterate all the points that Bob just said.
00:43:52
Speaker
I'm going to say exactly what Mac just said for a minute and a half and then say, yep.
00:43:58
Speaker
Like we said, same confidence.
00:44:05
Speaker
Well, we agreed there.
00:44:06
Speaker
So really, there is nothing more to say.
00:44:08
Speaker
Moving along to the Texans at Jets.
00:44:12
Speaker
And this also was a pretty easy one for me.
00:44:14
Speaker
Also in the double digits.
00:44:18
Speaker
I know I've been talking a lot about their defense.
00:44:19
Speaker
I still certainly agree that their defense is very solid.
00:44:23
Speaker
But they just don't have anything going for them either.
00:44:26
Speaker
They're not going to make it to the playoffs.
00:44:28
Speaker
As Bob talked about last week, Aaron Rodgers is not coming back.
00:44:32
Speaker
Don't even joke with us like that.
00:44:34
Speaker
They're not going to risk his future for him just to prove a point that he can do something that nobody else has done.
00:44:40
Speaker
Well, maybe they will because he seems like that kind of crazy.
00:44:43
Speaker
But that would be insane if they do that.
00:44:48
Speaker
They got nothing left to play for.
00:44:49
Speaker
Texans, on the other hand, doing a phenomenal job.
00:44:52
Speaker
They are right on the cusp of the playoffs.
00:44:54
Speaker
Not quite in there.
00:44:55
Speaker
So they've got a lot to play for.
00:44:57
Speaker
But they're doing a really nice job.
00:44:59
Speaker
And I was so frustrated watching that game.
00:45:02
Speaker
The number of turnovers that Russell Wilson had to the Texans.
00:45:10
Speaker
And yes, they were a credit to the Texans defense, but also just like an absolute trash on Russell Wilson.
00:45:16
Speaker
I don't know how they beat those other teams like the Bills and the Chiefs.
00:45:21
Speaker
I never saw those games, but I don't know how they freaking did it because that was just terrible.
00:45:26
Speaker
It was just terrible.
00:45:29
Speaker
Either way, the Texans are looking pretty good.
00:45:32
Speaker
And so I'm going with them very high at 14.
00:45:36
Speaker
So, so close three in a row.
00:45:41
Speaker
So I have 15, so we're not the exact same.
00:45:43
Speaker
That's your, that's your biggest game of the week.
00:45:46
Speaker
This is the most confident game that I have of the week.
00:45:48
Speaker
And since we're not the same, if we were, I would just move on, but we're not the same.
00:45:52
Speaker
So obviously I have to dig in a little bit deeper here.
00:45:56
Speaker
And I know Mac is super pumped about that.
00:45:59
Speaker
No, all jokes aside, Texans are a really great team.
00:46:05
Speaker
Tank Dell did break his leg, unfortunately.
00:46:07
Speaker
That was a big injury.
00:46:09
Speaker
That was a big one.
00:46:10
Speaker
So Nico Collins is going to have to step up.
00:46:11
Speaker
Noah Brown's going to have to step up.
00:46:14
Speaker
And Pierce and Singletary in the backfield.
00:46:16
Speaker
But, yeah, the Jets stink.
00:46:19
Speaker
The quarterback carousel has just been another circus this week with Zach Wilson saying he didn't want to have the starting position back, which is really weird.
00:46:28
Speaker
But they just announced him as a starter.
00:46:31
Speaker
I'm sure he's going to be getting a lot of boos from his home crowd.
00:46:34
Speaker
And yeah, the Texans are going to run all over him.
00:46:35
Speaker
So that's why I was 15 points confident in this one.
00:46:41
Speaker
Next up, the last game of the one o'clock slate, we have the Los Angeles Rams at Baltimore Ravens.
00:46:48
Speaker
This game was a little harder.
00:46:52
Speaker
I'm probably a little too confident and I hope you are as well in this one.
00:47:00
Speaker
She's nodding very confidently.
00:47:02
Speaker
So she might be even more confident than me in, in, in that case, but I I'm pretty, I'm saying confident a lot here in the last couple of sentences, but I'm pretty confident.
00:47:10
Speaker
The Ravens are the best team in the AFC after what we've seen from the chiefs a couple of times in the last three weeks.
00:47:17
Speaker
And the Texans have been up and down and the Jags just lost Lawrence and lost the game to the Bengals and injuries aside.
00:47:23
Speaker
I think the Ravens are the most complete team at this point in the AFC.
00:47:28
Speaker
This game's in Baltimore, Edgar Allen Poe,
00:47:33
Speaker
And the Rams, I think they've been one of the feel-good surprises of the NFL season.
00:47:37
Speaker
They, if the season ended today, are tied for the final seventh spot, third wildcard in the NFC.
00:47:45
Speaker
And if they can win a couple more games, they could easily be playing in the postseason again.
00:47:49
Speaker
And I don't think anybody expected that.
00:47:52
Speaker
Yeah, they sadly would not be in it if it started today.
00:47:55
Speaker
But they are right on the cusp.
00:47:57
Speaker
Is it the Packers that have the last?
00:47:58
Speaker
It is the Packers that have the last spot, yep.
00:48:02
Speaker
So as of right now, crazy enough, sorry, again, I digress.
00:48:06
Speaker
As of right now, three of the four NFC North teams are currently in the playoffs, which that is insane to have three teams of the same division, let alone the NFC North, which notoriously is known for, no offense to our boys, not being the best division that there is.
00:48:23
Speaker
It's not usually the strongest or the best, and the Bears are still in the hunt.
00:48:26
Speaker
So we could make it four here before the end of the season.
00:48:33
Speaker
Until the fat lady is singing and we are officially eliminated, I am going to hold out hope.
00:48:39
Speaker
So yes, absolutely.
00:48:40
Speaker
But as we digress, oh my gosh, you're getting cozy over there.
00:48:48
Speaker
Getting a little cozy with the blankie, making me jealous.
00:48:51
Speaker
Yeah, it's chilly in here too.
00:48:54
Speaker
I think the Ravens are going to win this game.
00:48:57
Speaker
Shout out to Puka.
00:48:58
Speaker
Best waiver wire pickup I've ever had in fantasy.
00:49:00
Speaker
I'm so stoked on him.
00:49:02
Speaker
Very stoked on Kyron Williams.
00:49:04
Speaker
I don't have him on my teams, but he's just another really electric young.
00:49:07
Speaker
You have him in our league, I thought.
00:49:12
Speaker
I tried to trade you for him, and you denied me.
00:49:19
Speaker
I'm really happy I kept him with you breathing down my neck right now in fantasy.
00:49:23
Speaker
What did you just pop in there, by the way?
00:49:25
Speaker
Is that another gummy bear?
00:49:26
Speaker
A little gummy bear.
00:49:28
Speaker
I want a blanket and a gummy bear right now.
00:49:31
Speaker
Come over to my house.
00:49:36
Speaker
Yeah, I got Ravens winning this game in the game of ours.
00:49:40
Speaker
I got them at a confidence of nine.
00:49:43
Speaker
I do have them a little higher.
00:49:47
Speaker
Yeah, I was really going back and forth on this one for sure.
00:49:50
Speaker
Not like in terms of who to pick.
00:49:52
Speaker
I knew I wanted to pick the Ravens, but in terms of how confident I wanted to be.
00:49:56
Speaker
Because I do think the Rams are making a little bit of a splash, as you mentioned, right on the bubble there.
00:50:01
Speaker
So they need to fight.
00:50:02
Speaker
They need to fight like hell to get in.
00:50:05
Speaker
I think they'll do it.
00:50:06
Speaker
Ultimately, though, all those reasons and more, the Ravens are just so solid.
00:50:10
Speaker
I completely agree that they're the best team in the AFC, in my opinion.
00:50:15
Speaker
I think they're going to have no problem putting this away.
00:50:18
Speaker
So ultimately, I just erred on the side of high because there were a lot lower ones, in my opinion.
00:50:24
Speaker
So I put Ravens at 11.
00:50:27
Speaker
Pretty dang close.
00:50:29
Speaker
And I'm sorry if you can hear me chewing my gummy bear.
00:50:32
Speaker
I did not, but now I'm going to lock in and see if I can listen and hear it.
00:50:36
Speaker
Okay, well, as I eat this, so that way I don't have to make you all listen to me, we are going to hear a word from our sponsor.
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I definitely don't think it was your worst.
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I don't think it was too bad.
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I think we all know what my worst was.
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It might have been the Christmas one was your worst because you started singing and then you were like, Target, ornaments.
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I don't even remember why.
00:52:16
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It was absolutely the Christmas one.
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And that adds on the bottom of the ocean with Eli and Baby Ivy and the Giants and the Patriots right now.
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00:52:47
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Yeah, keep the holiday spicy like I was going to say at first.
00:52:53
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Moving into the Sunday afternoon Salada Games, we have, first up, the Minnesota Vikings at Las Vegas Raiders.
00:53:03
Speaker
And like I said earlier, I honestly almost contemplated going Raiders and I still am potentially contemplating it, but I don't think I'm going to.
00:53:11
Speaker
I really don't think I am.
00:53:12
Speaker
And the reason why is because the Raiders don't really have much to play for.
00:53:19
Speaker
Likely out of the playoffs.
00:53:21
Speaker
I mean, it's not guaranteed at this point in time, but they're pretty far down on the list, just above the Jets.
00:53:27
Speaker
So I don't think they have as much to play for here.
00:53:30
Speaker
The Vikings, however, are on the cusp in the other way.
00:53:33
Speaker
They're currently in the playoffs, but one more loss, they certainly could fall down, especially if the
00:53:39
Speaker
Seahawks win a game moving forward.
00:53:41
Speaker
The Rams win a game.
00:53:42
Speaker
The Bucs are hot on their tails.
00:53:43
Speaker
So there's a lot of teams right there that the Vikings need to keep winning.
00:53:48
Speaker
And I have a pretty good feeling that they're not going to win both games against my boys, which are coming up still as well.
00:53:55
Speaker
But all that to say, like they need to win these games that are a little bit easier for them to win.
00:54:02
Speaker
And so that's why I leaned towards Vikings.
00:54:06
Speaker
And the reason I was so hesitant, I guess one more note for the Raiders and why I kept this pretty low is because Josh Dobbs, he did have a kind of a lightning in the bottle experience.
00:54:17
Speaker
He did do really well when he first got there.
00:54:19
Speaker
Unfortunately, we've seen that really has tapered off.
00:54:23
Speaker
People have started to figure him out.
00:54:25
Speaker
They cannot keep up the turnover rates that they have been having with him.
00:54:29
Speaker
He's just been throwing a lot of picks.
00:54:31
Speaker
And if that continues, they're in trouble.
00:54:34
Speaker
But they've got Justin Jefferson back.
00:54:37
Speaker
They're going to be hopefully making some moves, holding on to that spot.
00:54:40
Speaker
So I've got them winning.
00:54:41
Speaker
I've got them really low at two.
00:54:43
Speaker
Man, this is another big difference in confidence levels.
00:54:49
Speaker
I got the Vikings at eight.
00:54:53
Speaker
Well, can you tell me why you're a little bit more confident?
00:54:55
Speaker
I kind of gave reasons why I was less confident.
00:54:59
Speaker
I'll probably just mumble on for a couple of minutes about both sides here.
00:55:10
Speaker
And you actually gave me one of my points.
00:55:11
Speaker
My main point was because the Raiders are so bad and they have nothing to play for.
00:55:16
Speaker
I just think that morale in Las Vegas is so low and the Vikings still are holding onto a playoff spot.
00:55:23
Speaker
As if now they're the sixth seed.
00:55:27
Speaker
Because I looked at the.
00:55:28
Speaker
They're the sixth seed.
00:55:29
Speaker
I've got it right in front of me.
00:55:31
Speaker
They would be playing in Detroit, wouldn't they?
00:55:36
Speaker
Which, bring it on, baby.
00:55:39
Speaker
I mean, compared to the Packers, I would much rather if I was you play the Vikings in the kitty den.
00:55:46
Speaker
Or the Cowboys are right there.
00:55:49
Speaker
The Seahawks might be right there.
00:55:50
Speaker
They're a real thorn in our side.
00:55:51
Speaker
So I'll take the Vikings.
00:55:52
Speaker
You do not want the Cowboys.
00:55:54
Speaker
I would take Josh Dobbs and the Vikings any day of the week.
00:55:58
Speaker
But yeah, I mean, like you said, not only are the Raiders really down right now, Aiden O'Connell is not it.
00:56:04
Speaker
I mean, cool story.
00:56:07
Speaker
What year have we ever had in the NFL where there's been this many backups playing significant snaps in the NFL?
00:56:14
Speaker
Honestly, I can't remember a year that there's been this many backups playing.
00:56:19
Speaker
I mean, think about DeBito.
00:56:20
Speaker
And not only by injuries, a lot of them are by benchings too, which is crazy.
00:56:25
Speaker
It's crazy because Garoppolo is healthy in Las Vegas, right?
00:56:28
Speaker
He just got benched after the Halloween massacre in Detroit.
00:56:33
Speaker
So he got benched.
00:56:36
Speaker
We ended his career.
00:56:39
Speaker
Jimmy G, we'll send you a little holiday gift box if you want it.
00:56:43
Speaker
Maybe we ended Aaron Rodgers, too, because still, Aaron Rodgers' last completed pass was to a Detroit Lion.
00:56:48
Speaker
Still to this day.
00:56:51
Speaker
Aaron, that was brutal by her.
00:56:52
Speaker
I'll send you a little bit of a holiday cheer as well.
00:56:55
Speaker
Do not send him swag.
00:56:56
Speaker
Do not send Aaron Rodgers swag.
00:56:58
Speaker
Let me make a note here.
00:57:01
Speaker
Cancel order to Rodgers.
00:57:03
Speaker
It's a big one too.
00:57:08
Speaker
I might be in trouble there, but.
00:57:11
Speaker
And that's, that's, I never do that, but yeah, Raiders morale is low.
00:57:17
Speaker
The only bright spot right now is really Josh Jacobs.
00:57:19
Speaker
Cause even Devante Adams hasn't had a great year just cause his quarterbacks just
00:57:24
Speaker
are not good right now.
00:57:26
Speaker
And yeah, Vikings are getting the best receiver in the NFL, in my opinion, back.
00:57:32
Speaker
They also just had a buy after losing to the bears two Mondays ago.
00:57:36
Speaker
So they're rested.
00:57:37
Speaker
And I think they're going to go into Las Vegas and get back on the winning train.
00:57:41
Speaker
That's why I got them at eight.
00:57:44
Speaker
Not, not bad points.
00:57:46
Speaker
We'll take a look at that one.
00:57:48
Speaker
Not, not good ones.
00:57:50
Speaker
No, they were good.
00:57:51
Speaker
They were not bad.
00:57:51
Speaker
Okay, so I'm making a note.
00:57:53
Speaker
We'll go for eight for the Vikings.
00:57:56
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Speaking of that team, we were just talking about the Seahawks needing some wins.
00:57:59
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They are going to have a hard time finding that this weekend because next up we have the Seattle Seahawks at San Francisco 49ers.
00:58:09
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And hot damn, hot diggity damn, the 49ers.
00:58:13
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I think they're going to make a march and get that number one playoff spot.
00:58:18
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Sorry, Big T. Sorry, Eagles.
00:58:20
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I really do think that the 49ers are coming for you.
00:58:23
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I think that the playoffs are going through San Francisco this year.
00:58:27
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I think they've got a real good shot at the Super Bowl and the
00:58:31
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potentially even all the way to the title and winning that, they look undeniably good, unbeatable at this current moment.
00:58:40
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That's why I'm so confident, even in an interdivisional matchup against the Seahawks.
00:58:44
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But that's why I'm putting them at a dozen this weekend, because I don't think they can be stopped at the moment.
00:58:50
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It was insane to watch them shut such a good Philadelphia team down.
00:58:56
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Did you just steal my game?
00:58:59
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No, you just did the Vikings Raiders.
00:59:02
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I thought you went first and I went second.
00:59:04
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Oh, I forgot because you talked for so long.
00:59:10
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Classic V just talking on Max game for so long that she literally thinks it was my game.
00:59:14
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I literally thought it was your game.
00:59:15
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I didn't even think I gave any analysis for the Vikings right first.
00:59:18
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Compared to me, you basically did it because I was just jabbling along for about five minutes.
00:59:22
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Oh, no, we're about to hit an hour.
00:59:24
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We got 20 seconds.
00:59:27
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Okay, so yeah, that's why you chose the 49ers.
00:59:32
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I just love giving you a hard time.
00:59:34
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So you said 12 for the Niners.
00:59:36
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Well, pretty dang close.
00:59:38
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And yeah, I mean, like you said, because obviously this is your game or else you wouldn't have gone first.
00:59:43
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That would be crazy.
00:59:44
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But I mean, if there's a game that like is the hardest to win in the NFL, like obviously it's in Philadelphia.
00:59:53
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And I'm just trying to think of, you're not a big college football fan, right?
00:59:58
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So I'm assuming you didn't hear about all the drama of the playoffs being announced on Sunday and the committee choosing strength to schedule, best win, yada, yada, yada.
01:00:07
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I've heard some of it.
01:00:08
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I've heard some of it, but I don't pay much attention.
01:00:12
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I figured, figured as much because I know you've told me in the past that you're not a,
01:00:16
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massive uh college football fan you put all your energy into sundays which i appreciate and respect because this is a full-time job but it really is to give you the the very very quick for real this time spark notes version florida state was undefeated they got screwed georgia lost for the first time in two years won two national championships in a row they missed out and they put in um alabama and uh texas which was like a little a little uh
01:00:43
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People were critiquing that a lot.
01:00:45
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So I'm bringing this up because people talk about Alabama just beat Georgia, which is the hardest game to win in college football right now.
01:00:54
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Winning in Philadelphia is the hardest game to win in the NFL right now.
01:00:58
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I think most people would agree with that.
01:01:00
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And the Niners didn't just win in Philadelphia.
01:01:02
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They completely obliterated the Eagles in Philadelphia.
01:01:07
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And that was after a first quarter that was pretty much dominated by the Eagles.
01:01:11
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Matt Texanucci's like,
01:01:12
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wow, the Eagles are looking dominant.
01:01:14
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I'm like, yeah, they are looking unbelievable.
01:01:16
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They're looking like man-eaters.
01:01:18
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And then the next three quarters is just like a- I'd say the whole first half, really, the Eagles looked pretty solid.
01:01:22
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I mean, yes, the 49ers got it together in the second, but the way they came out in the second half, I was like, holy smokes.
01:01:29
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It was like a flip of the switch.
01:01:30
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McCaffrey turned it on.
01:01:31
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Kittle turned it on.
01:01:32
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Debo Samuel, like-
01:01:34
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Circa insane, insane, insane in the membrane.
01:01:37
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It was like circa 2019, 2020 for him.
01:01:39
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He was outrunning the entire Philly defense.
01:01:43
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And I'm sorry, Tyrese, I'm really not trying to put it on thick here.
01:01:45
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Big D Eagles are still great.
01:01:47
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You still got the one seed, but you better hope somebody else is going to knock off the Niners because it is not looking like the Eagles can right now.
01:01:55
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So, yeah, that's why I have the Niners.
01:01:58
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Oh, my God, we're talking so much about the Niners and Eagles, I forgot to play the Seahawks.
01:02:05
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You've lost three in a row, though.
01:02:06
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You've become kind of irrelevant, in my opinion.
01:02:09
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So that's why I got the Niners winning at 14.
01:02:16
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Well, Bill's Chiefs is...
01:02:22
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Your game right now?
01:02:26
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Do you want to just take your third in a row and then we'll get back?
01:02:30
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It is, which will be your third in a row.
01:02:33
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Well, again, you just talked for a while, so maybe it's not.
01:02:37
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It never ends here, folks.
01:02:41
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Well, Bill's at Chiefs.
01:02:44
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She's her biggest fan right now.
01:02:46
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She's cracking herself up.
01:02:50
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I am going with the Chiefs in this game against the Bills, mostly because the Bills have also been kind of on a downward spiral.
01:02:58
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They are well out of the playoffs right now.
01:03:00
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They're in the 10th spot.
01:03:02
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They need to move up a significant amount if they want a shot at seeing some playing time in January.
01:03:10
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Chiefs, on the other hand, though...
01:03:12
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Scared me a little bit.
01:03:14
Speaker
Lost to the Broncos.
01:03:15
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Just lost this past weekend to the Packers.
01:03:19
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Lost to the Lions this year.
01:03:20
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Yeah, lost to the Lions.
01:03:22
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What in the world?
01:03:23
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Definitely scared me a bit.
01:03:24
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Kind of goes back to what we were talking about, their wide receivers.
01:03:27
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They really got to get it together with their wide receivers, catching balls.
01:03:31
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I mean, hello, that's what you're getting paid for.
01:03:33
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They've got some work to do.
01:03:35
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So that's why I kept this like a middle-of-the-road game because โ
01:03:40
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They really kind of scared me at the moment, but it is still in Kansas City.
01:03:43
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The Bills still are not doing great either.
01:03:47
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So ultimately, I'm giving the win to the Chiefs, but I'm keeping it middle of the road at seven.
01:03:54
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Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.
01:03:56
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Third time is a charm, baby.
01:03:59
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I'm going to stick to my word.
01:04:01
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I'm not going to say diddly squat on this game.
01:04:04
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Other five minutes later.
01:04:08
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other than the fact that there's been so many classic bills chiefs games.
01:04:12
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I looked at this on the schedule.
01:04:14
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I was like, Oh my God, this is going to be one of the best games in the NFL season.
01:04:16
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And I'm sure the script makers and the schedule, uh, creators also thought that this was going to be one of the best, but both teams are struggling.
01:04:26
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Bills, a must win situation in Kansas city in December.
01:04:30
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Not, uh, not feeling good for Josh Allen and co about this one.
01:04:34
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So yeah, I got the chiefs getting back on, uh,
01:04:37
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back on track and seven, just like my cohost.
01:04:41
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Sounds like plants, Dan moving on.
01:04:43
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I will actually let you talk on this game.
01:04:45
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The Denver Broncos at Los Angeles chargers.
NFL Game Previews and Playful Banter
01:04:51
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Oh, you're going to let me go first on a game.
01:04:53
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I'm going to let you go this time.
01:05:04
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I am also my biggest fan.
01:05:05
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I crack myself up.
01:05:09
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I mean, this is one of those games you look at at the start of the season.
01:05:13
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I think everybody would probably be like, yeah, maybe even like two or three weeks into the season, you'd be like, yeah, Chargers at home against the Broncos in December.
01:05:20
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Obviously the Chargers are going to win this game.
01:05:22
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My friend Broncos obviously just had a little bit of stumble as Mac alluded to a little earlier in Houston.
01:05:30
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in a game they absolutely could have and probably should have won.
01:05:34
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And the Chargers are just kind of just going in the wrong direction.
01:05:38
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I don't know what's going on with Eckler, but he has had like four horrendous games in a row.
01:05:42
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Thank goodness he's not on my fantasy teams.
01:05:45
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And the Chargers, yeah, I mean, they got a win last week.
01:05:47
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Probably the most unimpressive win of the season, beating the Patriots 6-0.
01:05:51
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Yuck, woof, vom.com.
01:05:57
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So yeah, I think the Broncos are a playoff team, which is crazy to say with Russell Wilson.
01:06:04
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Broncos country, let's ride.
01:06:06
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I think they're going to ride into LA.
01:06:09
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They're going to go on Sunset Boulevard.
01:06:11
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They're going to check out Hollywood, have a good time.
01:06:13
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And then they're going to go to SoFi on Sunday, and they're going to break Chargers fans' hearts.
01:06:18
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So I got the Broncos winning on Sunday at a confidence level of... Can I guess?
01:06:31
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I'm not even going to ask.
01:06:32
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We still have four games.
01:06:38
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I bet if you looked at mine right now, though, you could figure out what I'm going to be.
01:06:41
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Yeah, chat for about 30 seconds and let me see if I can figure it out here.
01:06:45
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Well, all that to say, I do agree.
01:06:47
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I will tell you a quick little story, though, while you're trying to figure that out.
01:06:51
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On Sunday, so Bob and I oftentimes when like our other teams are playing, we will support each other, but we'll also be like, if the Bears were losing, I would text him and be like, hey, can you call Justin Fields?
01:07:02
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Can you have a little conversation with him and tell him to like get it together a little bit?
01:07:06
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Same thing for him.
01:07:07
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Same thing for me.
01:07:09
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He'll be like, hey, call up Jared Goff.
01:07:11
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Like what's going on?
01:07:12
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So Sunday, the Broncos are playing the Texans.
01:07:15
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I need the Broncos to win for my Waffle House for me to even have a shot, basically.
01:07:22
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And they're about to freaking win.
01:07:24
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They're on, like, the five going into it.
01:07:27
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And Russ throws the pick with, like, literally a second left.
01:07:31
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But flashback, like...
01:07:33
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at halftime, I text my friend who's a really big Broncos fan.
01:07:37
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And I'm like, Hey, can you try to joke around?
01:07:40
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Hey, would you mind telling your offense to play as well as your defense?
01:07:44
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Defense looks great.
01:07:45
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But would you mind giving them a call and telling them to play a little bit better?
01:07:50
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And he responds with absolutely dead serious.
01:07:54
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He goes, why don't you
01:07:57
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Why don't you tell the Lions to put away a trash team like the Saints and I'll worry about the Broncos.
01:08:02
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And I was like, oh, my God.
01:08:05
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I was like, whoa, OK.
01:08:07
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I can only joke around like this with Bob.
01:08:16
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I responded and I was like, OK.
01:08:17
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I was trying to give a compliment to the defense, but sounds like somebody's a little sensitive.
01:08:25
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And then, you know what?
01:08:26
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Good, good that they ended up losing.
01:08:27
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Yeah, honestly, sorry.
01:08:30
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Anyways, all that to say, I don't have much else to add to this game.
01:08:34
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I still think they're going to win.
01:08:36
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Probably like a confidence level of eight, huh?
01:08:39
Speaker
Probably a confidence level of like eight, right?
01:08:41
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A confidence level of eight.
01:08:45
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How did I guess that?
01:08:45
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That's unbelievable.
01:08:48
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You got, hey, you got some big ones left, by the way.
01:08:50
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I do got some big ones left.
01:08:55
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Looking ahead to Sunday night, 8.20 p.m., we have the Philadelphia Eagles at Dallas Cowboys.
01:09:04
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I'm going to go out on a limb here, and I'm going to say I think this is going to be a ding-de-la ding-ding-ding, but this is your game.
01:09:11
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I refuse to go against that pack that we have of game to game to game.
01:09:15
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I would never take three in a row, nonetheless two, so I'm going to let you start on this one.
01:09:19
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Okay, fair enough.
01:09:20
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Well, I appreciate that.
01:09:22
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Yeah, this was a hard one for me.
01:09:24
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I think it's going to be a ding-a-ling-a-ling-a-ling because this is my least confident game of the week.
01:09:29
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This is going to be a tough one.
01:09:30
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Interdivisional matchup.
01:09:32
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The two best teams in the NFC East going head-to-head.
01:09:36
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They've already played once this year.
01:09:38
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They split their games last season.
01:09:41
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And it's just going to be a tough battle between two very solid teams that are
01:09:46
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As of right now, in the playoffs, looking to make some noise in the playoffs down the stretch.
01:09:52
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So this is going to be a good game.
01:09:53
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And this could help determine some things later on, too.
01:09:57
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If the Cowboys make a little run and the Eagles start to fall a little bit, you never know what's going to happen.
01:10:02
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So there's going to need to be some big movement on both these teams.
01:10:06
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But I don't think they need any more energy other than the fact that they're playing each other because they hate each other.
01:10:11
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And yes, Bob has something to say.
01:10:14
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I was just going to, I wanted to go out on a limb and see if I could guess this one.
01:10:17
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And then, I mean, it's pretty impossible to guess two in a row.
01:10:20
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So if I do, can you do the Chunky Monkey one of these episodes?
01:10:24
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What's the Chunky Monkey?
01:10:26
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The Chunky Monkey, the marshmallow thing I was telling you about.
01:10:31
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I was like, what the frick?
01:10:36
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Okay, Chubby Bunny, like I said.
01:10:38
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As I was trying to give my analysis, I'm going to move on.
01:10:42
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No response to that?
01:10:44
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No, I'm not going to do the chunky monkey because you already know who I picked and you already know.
01:10:49
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I already said it's my lowest confidence of one.
01:10:54
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Anyways, as I was saying, a few weeks back when these two teams played each other, I started talking about how they split last year.
01:11:03
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And ultimately for me, I kind of was eyeing this game that I thought either way I was going to pick the Cowboys.
01:11:09
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And I'm actually shocked that Bob also picked the Cowboys.
01:11:11
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But for them to be at home, the Cowboys have been insane at home, scoring at insane margins, putting up so many points over their opponents at home.
01:11:23
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And I think they're just hot at home right now.
01:11:26
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They're just looking good.
01:11:27
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Eagles are coming off of a tough loss.
01:11:29
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Who knows if they'll still be feeling a little bit down.
01:11:32
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And I think they're going to split again this year.
01:11:33
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The Eagles already won at home.
01:11:35
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I think the Cowboys are going to do it this weekend.
01:11:37
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But clearly I'm not that confident because Chunky Monkey, I've got him at one.
01:11:44
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I knew it was one and I wish you would have agreed to the chunky monkey chubby bunny because that would have been really, really fun.
01:11:51
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This is about to be like a boy who cried wolf situation and you're just going to stop calling on me when I raise my hand in this chat.
01:11:58
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So I got to be careful.
01:12:00
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You better start using it wisely.
01:12:02
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I'm probably on thin ice.
01:12:03
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I probably only got a couple bad hand raises left before you stop calling on me.
01:12:07
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I thought maybe you were going to like add some good insight.
01:12:10
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Maybe I missed something that you wanted to point out for the Cowboys.
01:12:13
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No, you just said, can you do the chunky monkey?
01:12:18
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That's exactly how I said it too.
01:12:20
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If I guess this, can you do chunky monkey?
01:12:26
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I mean, I feel like at this point, the wave riders, they're not coming here to hear about football.
01:12:30
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They know that this is going to happen.
01:12:32
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If people are still listening in and they're truly trying to learn about football.
01:12:36
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Well, I apologize because we're talking about the chunky monkey, but I agree with Mac on all fronts.
01:12:44
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And I totally had forgotten about your, what you'd said about the home field advantage from last year.
01:12:49
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And I'm glad I did because I,
01:12:54
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I guess it wouldn't have made any difference even if I didn't forget because I still would have gone Cowboys.
01:12:57
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But if the Eagles would have had that game a little closer against the Niners, I probably would have stuck Philly.
01:13:04
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But, yeah, I mean, this is a huge game for the Cowboys.
01:13:06
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They need this to be right in the division hunt.
01:13:09
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The Niners are cheering for the Cowboys, so then the things for โ
01:13:14
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I feel like the waters will be murky a little bit for that number one seed.
01:13:17
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So all that to say, didn't need to be said.
01:13:19
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Cowboys, for one, I agree with Mac, and we are going to have a great game on Sunday night.
01:13:24
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Cannot wait to watch.
01:13:26
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And strange that we have two Monday nights, but as we transition from Sunday to Monday, I think this is a perfect time for our fans to just enjoy, sit back, relax, and enjoy advertisement numero dos on this great podcast.
01:13:41
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And quick note, I noticed your stalling tactic earlier.
01:13:44
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I think you've stolen that from me, so very good.
01:13:48
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And I'll do the same.
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01:14:26
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Did you come up with another spot?
01:14:28
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There's no chance.
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What did you rhyme with mischief?
01:14:34
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What did you rhyme mischief with?
01:14:36
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Creamy and delicious.
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Jif with mischief?
01:14:40
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No, Jif peanut butter, creamy, and delicious.
01:14:46
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Delicious, mischief.
01:14:47
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That was unbelievable.
01:14:49
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That might have been one of my favorites.
01:14:52
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I think that might have been your best one ever in terms of... That might have been one of my favorites.
01:14:55
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No, that actually, I did, I swear.
01:14:57
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You can look at my computer.
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I'll share my screen.
01:14:59
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I don't have any notes on me.
01:15:03
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incredible that you didn't even stumble you didn't stumble at all and then you wrapped it up nice and tidy you didn't go too long peanut butter that was kind of cool made a little drums in the background give me a little beat nicely done that's kind of catchy too we just need your voice with my rhyming
01:15:28
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Hey, your voice is beautiful there.
01:15:30
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That was a perfect, perfect voice.
01:15:32
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Right when I started bouncing, you immediately like kind of rolled your eyes.
01:15:36
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Because you always do that.
01:15:37
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You'll say it and then you'll say it again and then you'll say it again.
01:15:40
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But that time you just dove right into the rhyme.
01:15:44
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I covered my face.
01:15:44
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I was like, oh my God, I know where this is going.
01:15:46
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And I was happily surprised.
01:15:50
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Thank you very much.
01:15:53
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I did have a little pre-podcast snack with a little Jeff's peanut butter.
01:15:57
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Gummy bears and peanut butter?
01:15:58
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You are going to be on the pot pot tonight.
01:16:02
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Pre-podcast snack was peanut butter on banana with a little chocolate chips, and that was delish.
01:16:07
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And then during podcast was just a couple gummy bears.
01:16:11
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Just a couple gummy bears.
01:16:12
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Well, that's a nice little snacky snack.
01:16:19
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It's so delicious, it'll keep the kids out of mischief.
01:16:23
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how i don't know how that makes sense but it's fine it rhymes i don't know how your brain works like that in the spot i go christmas christmas target ornaments christmas jingle bells chunky monkey i'm just gonna say that chunky monkey
01:16:42
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Oh, that was unbelievable.
01:16:48
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Heading into Monday night, 8.15 p.m.
01:16:50
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We have a doubleheader Monday night of this week, which is pretty exciting.
01:16:55
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As we are heading out, this is the last week for teams to be on byes.
01:16:59
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So they're going to start moving some games around to Saturdays, some extra Monday night games, some extra games
Dolphins vs. Titans and Packers' Success
01:17:05
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Lots of football to be had still in these last few weeks.
01:17:09
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Kick us off, Bob, with, or is it me?
01:17:13
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Kick us off with the Tennessee Titans.
01:17:15
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You tried it again.
01:17:17
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At Miami Dolphins.
01:17:19
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You're a real sickle, you know that?
01:17:21
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I'm just trying to snatch your games.
01:17:25
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So I know that I have 11 and 12 left, and I know that you have a 13 and 15 left.
01:17:29
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So this is going to be a lot of points between these two games.
01:17:33
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And I know which one you have 15.
01:17:35
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That's a lot of eyebrow rages.
01:17:36
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I bet I know which one you have 12.
01:17:39
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I think you'd be surprised.
01:17:40
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So we will, we will see, but I'd like to hear your guests, but love that.
01:17:44
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We have a lot of points that actually was the strategy I was sticking with.
01:17:46
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And you, you doubled down and had more points on both.
01:17:49
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So happy to see we're on the same, the same page, but we got Titans, we got dolphins,
01:17:56
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We got one good team.
01:17:57
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We got one bad team.
01:17:59
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We got one good quarterback.
01:18:00
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We got one bad quarterback.
01:18:02
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All the goods are in favor of Miami, which is also the home team.
01:18:08
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And the Titans, I mean, yeah, they fought hard against Indy on Sunday, as Mack alluded to, the fourth alluded to.
01:18:16
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And they, you know...
01:18:19
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They've been better the last handful of weeks than they were.
01:18:23
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They had a really bad stretch where they were looking like maybe it would be one of the worst teams in the NFL.
01:18:27
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And the Titans, credit to them, credit to Vrabel.
01:18:29
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They've been fighting.
01:18:30
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Unfortunately for them, Derrick Henry has a concussion, so he might not play, which is huge because he's been โ
01:18:35
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looking like King Henry as of late.
01:18:37
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And yeah, Levis also is just kind of plateaued from his first couple of good starts.
01:18:41
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And the Dolphins just keep on balling.
01:18:44
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Tyreek is on pace to be the first ever receiver with 2,000 yards in a season.
01:18:49
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And this is in Miami.
01:18:50
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Yeah, I mean, this is a no-brainer for me.
01:18:52
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What do you think I have it at?
01:18:54
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Well, you said I would be surprised.
01:18:56
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So that's making me think that you have the Packers higher.
01:19:00
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But I just feel like you wouldn't be able to put the Packers higher.
01:19:03
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So I think you put them at 12.
01:19:11
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Well, yeah, I also have the Dolphins and there's no way in hell.
01:19:15
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I'm putting the Packers at 15.
01:19:17
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So I have them at 15.
01:19:19
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Highest confidence.
01:19:27
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They're just insane right now.
01:19:28
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I mean, I don't know how to and Tyreek that connection.
01:19:32
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It just nobody can seem to stop it.
01:19:34
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It's like that is their tush push for the Eagles.
01:19:39
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Like nobody can stop it.
01:19:40
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He's still just like wide open down the field.
01:19:42
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And I'm like, hello, every time.
01:19:44
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What are you guys doing?
01:19:45
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That's a great question.
01:19:47
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Can you imagine a long, deep Hail Mary for a touchdown working like the tush push?
01:19:52
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It feels like it's pretty similar.
01:19:54
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It feels like it's just constant.
01:19:56
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Happens every week at least once, so you're not wrong.
01:20:00
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But anyway, yes, I totally agree.
01:20:02
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So moving along to the last game of the week, since we are just almost to an hour, we have the Green Bay Packers at New York Giants.
01:20:13
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And sorry, I feel like I scarred you there.
01:20:15
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This actually is your game.
01:20:18
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Now I'm just going to hesitate in between each one just in case.
01:20:21
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Now she's going to make me feel like crap that I'm like making her all.
01:20:25
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May I, may I speak now, please?
01:20:28
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Well, so yes, for me, I mean, Packers, obviously, as you've already said, they've been really making a big push.
01:20:35
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They are in the playoffs as of right now.
01:20:37
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They have been doing well.
01:20:39
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They seem to have found their groove with Jordan Love.
01:20:42
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They've come a long way from the beginning when we were all laughing and pointing and mocking at them for getting rid of Aaron Rodgers.
01:20:48
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But alas, they may have found their next franchise quarterback in Jordan Love.
01:20:55
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No love for him whatsoever.
01:20:57
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from us here at Making Waves.
01:21:00
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Not a big fan, but yeah, they're looking pretty good.
01:21:02
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They're finding their groove in the Giants.
01:21:08
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Still at the bottom of the ocean.
01:21:10
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Tommy DeVito, that true Italian man with his little symbol that he does.
01:21:19
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Yeah, unfortunately, I think Packers are going to win.
01:21:26
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Okay, Chunky Monkey.
01:21:28
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Yeah, I mean, like you said, we're almost at an hour, so I'm going to keep this one really nice, brief, nice little bow on top.
01:21:35
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Unfortunately, yeah, Giants are at the bottom of the ocean.
01:21:38
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They have had a couple of solid games recently, but Packers are looking like one of the hottest teams in the NFL.
01:21:45
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The back-to-back wins versus the Lions, who obviously only have three losses on the season, and then the Chiefs, who were number one in the AFC, only have four losses on the season now.
01:21:56
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Very impressive back-to-back wins.
01:21:58
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I have no doubt they're going to keep it rolling on Monday night, unfortunately, which stinks.
01:22:02
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But yeah, I got them going into New York.
01:22:05
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And winning at a college level of 12.
01:22:14
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I know it hurt both of us to put them that high, but we got to do it for the money.
01:22:19
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Got to do it for the Bucco Bucs.
01:22:20
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We're doing it this week.
01:22:21
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And I feel like we had a couple games that are not super close, but, yeah, I mean, we have two that we don't agree on.
01:22:28
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We'll have to chat about those.
01:22:29
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I'm sure that since we went Lions last time in the Lions-Bears, you'll let me, as any good best friend would do, you'd let me go Bears this time.
01:22:36
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So really excited to go with them.
01:22:39
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Really excited to go with them.
01:22:41
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Tune in next week.
01:22:42
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We'll obviously let you know.
01:22:43
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And maybe one of us will be doing the Chunky Monkey Chubby Bunny or the Saltine Crackers, whatever we decide offline.
01:22:49
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But also next week, I think we should push it because also next week, join us for Christmas Chaos.
Special Episode Announcement: Christmas Chaos
01:22:58
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Which is a full episode full of just that.
01:23:01
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More chaos than you can even imagine, which is kind of hard to beat.
01:23:04
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But yeah, tune in next week.
01:23:06
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We'll see you then.
01:23:07
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More chaos, which is crazy.
01:23:10
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You were about to cut it.
01:23:12
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I'm talking again.
01:23:13
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But yeah, Christmas chaos.
01:23:15
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Next week is our last episode in a couple weeks because Mac and Nikki are going to have an amazing European trip.
01:23:21
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And then obviously we have Christmas, which we never record for anyway.
01:23:25
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So not going to want to miss next week.
01:23:29
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How could you not want that?
01:23:45
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Go Bears, Chunky Mike Keats.