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NFL 2025 - Christmas Chaos!
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Nothing quite compares to the chaos of the holiday season, and I'm not talking about all that last minute shopping you still have to do. I'm talking about that final playoff push for 32 teams just hoping to see their name in the Christmas lights. Join Mack and Bob as they break down everything that needs to happen for these teams to make it to the playoffs this year!
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00:00:01
Bobbo
bu but but bu bu but but bum bum boom but bum bum but but boom boom um bomb balm balm Three weeks left. Bears are in it.
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Bobbo
Lions are in it. Christmas chaos. Let's dive right in.
Festive Greetings and NFL Playoff Setup
00:00:37
Mackenzie Forgacs
Welcome back to Making Waves, an NFL confidence pool podcast. I'm your jolly holly host, Mac.
00:00:46
Bobbo
And I'm Chris Crindle. I'm your host, Bob. I said Chris Crindle.
00:00:50
Mackenzie Forgacs
Chris Kringle? Never heard of you, Chris Kringle.
00:00:52
Bobbo
oh
00:00:53
Mackenzie Forgacs
I've heard of Chris Kringle.
00:00:55
Bobbo
No, I'm Chris Crindle, his jolly brother.
00:00:58
Mackenzie Forgacs
Oh, yes, yes, yes. His twin, if you will.
00:01:00
Bobbo
Yes, man. Yeah. Yes, exactly.
00:01:03
Mackenzie Forgacs
Oh my goodness, if you couldn't tell, it is Christmas season, folks. It's Bob's favorite time of the year. He's been talking about Christmas for far too long, if you ask me, but we're finally here and I'm here to celebrate with you finally. Does it feel good having me like alongside you for once?
00:01:22
Bobbo
It feels really good to have you here with me for eight days. It would have been nice to have have you here with me for 60, but I'll take I can get.
00:01:26
Mackenzie Forgacs
Great. Hey,
00:01:31
Mackenzie Forgacs
Not 60. I was on, I was in the day after Thanksgiving or the weekend after maybe. I was in, we set up our Christmas tree, actually climbed up on the roof, strung some lights for Nick.
00:01:39
Bobbo
Nothing.
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Mackenzie Forgacs
I was very into the Christmas season after Thanksgiving.
00:01:47
Bobbo
And you know what? To each his own. um That wouldn't be my, ah you know, my ah chosen chosen path.
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Mackenzie Forgacs
Good choice.
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Bobbo
But hey, I'm glad you're on the Christmas
Santa's Nice List and Playoff Contention
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Bobbo
train now. And I hope it wasn't too little too late, if you know what I mean.
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Mackenzie Forgacs
Oh, I hope not as well. I don't think so. I mean, I personally, I know I'm on the nice list this year.
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Bobbo
No.
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Mackenzie Forgacs
i don't know how you feel. Do you think you're on the nicest?
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Bobbo
Oh, I thought you meant like how I feel about you being on the nice list. I am. i don't i don't know. I am on the nice list.
00:02:18
Mackenzie Forgacs
Oh, you are.
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Bobbo
um
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Mackenzie Forgacs
How did you get that confirmed?
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Bobbo
Yeah, I've just been a really good boy this year.
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Mackenzie Forgacs
Okay.
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Bobbo
um So I am confirmed on the nice list. I've had a lot of good deeds.
00:02:28
Mackenzie Forgacs
Confirmed.
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Bobbo
I've been you know doing the Lord's work at school and practice and all that jazz. Yeah.
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Mackenzie Forgacs
That's for sure. That is for sure.
00:02:36
Bobbo
And I think it's kind of just like a given that teachers are on the good list. I'm sorry, on the nice list. And Mac, I really like to think that my best friend's also on the the nice list.
00:02:46
Bobbo
um But you never do know until you walk downstairs on the 25th morning.
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Mackenzie Forgacs
you.
00:02:50
Mackenzie Forgacs
Oh, you really don't. You really don't. I feel i feel hopeful. um
00:02:54
Bobbo
Good.
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Mackenzie Forgacs
I feel excited. Yeah, I feel like I've done a pretty good job this year. I've been you know staying out of trouble.
00:03:01
Bobbo
Good.
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Mackenzie Forgacs
on my best disbehavior. So I'm feeling good. I think Santa might find me.
00:03:07
Bobbo
Oh my gosh. Well, you know what? I can definitely put in a good word. Me and him are pretty good pals. um
00:03:10
Mackenzie Forgacs
Okay. Thank you.
00:03:11
Bobbo
And i'll I'll make sure that that you and Nick are are treated fairly. And um at the very least, Nick will be on the nice list and you'll, you know.
00:03:16
Mackenzie Forgacs
Appreciate that.
00:03:20
Mackenzie Forgacs
Hey, i and I know Nick is on the nice list for forever.
00:03:21
Bobbo
ah you like believe Yes.
00:03:25
Mackenzie Forgacs
So I'm just trying to just trying to take it year by year.
00:03:28
Bobbo
Okay. That's that's good. you're You're married someone that's always on the nice list. And, um yeah you know, you're year by year.
00:03:32
Mackenzie Forgacs
Yeah.
00:03:34
Bobbo
I like that.
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Mackenzie Forgacs
Yeah. I get presents like through her anyway, so it's good.
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Bobbo
Good.
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Mackenzie Forgacs
Yeah.
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Bobbo
So no matter what, you're good.
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Mackenzie Forgacs
I'm on a nice list by association.
00:03:43
Bobbo
Nice list by association. And you know what? That's important. That is an important place to be.
00:03:46
Mackenzie Forgacs
That is, that is important.
00:03:47
Bobbo
So I'm happy for you, McKenz.
00:03:48
Mackenzie Forgacs
And you know what? Thank you. Thank you so much. And you know what else is important around Christmas time? Cause it happens every single year.
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Bobbo
Can take
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Mackenzie Forgacs
You can take a guess.
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Bobbo
a boxing day?
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Mackenzie Forgacs
and Great guess. Great guess. I'll give you one more. That's not what I was thinking of, but yes, that's great. Also great guess.
00:04:07
Bobbo
yeah. oh Duh. Is it the hunt for the playoffs, the NFL playoffs?
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Mackenzie Forgacs
Ding, ding, ding, my friend. it is the hunt for the playoffs.
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Bobbo
Yes.
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Mackenzie Forgacs
Nothing is more important than this next three weeks, this stretch of games, heading into the playoffs. A lot can change. There's still a ton up in the air right now.
00:04:27
Mackenzie Forgacs
We have a few teams who have clinched Playoff spots are ready, but not their seeding hasn't been necessarily decided. Things like that are also up in the air. And there's still a lot of teams that are fighting their way in.
00:04:40
Mackenzie Forgacs
And it's very possible that they can still get in throughout these next three weeks. So it's a very important stretch
Holiday Season NFL Vigilance
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Mackenzie Forgacs
of games. And it's kind of sad, actually, because, you know, they probably just want to, like, celebrate with their families and enjoy the holiday season.
00:04:53
Bobbo
Uh-huh.
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Mackenzie Forgacs
But no, they cannot take their eye off the ball for one second.
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Bobbo
Yes.
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Bobbo
One second of, you know, inintentiveness or not paying attention, and you can go from the two seed to the zero seed, a.k.a.
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Mackenzie Forgacs
You absolutely could
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Bobbo
missing the playoffs. So while we're all having a holly jolly time and, you know, hanging out under the mistletoe and eating Christmas cookies and singing –
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Mackenzie Forgacs
could. Oh, mistletoe, you say?
00:05:18
Bobbo
You know, it's it's it's it's a holiday it's a holiday tradition, of course.
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Mackenzie Forgacs
okay, okay. Who are you hanging under the mistletoe with?
00:05:24
Bobbo
yeah oh it's It's a holiday tradition.
00:05:29
Bobbo
Oh, and you know, um that that that that's something that I you know keep between me.
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Mackenzie Forgacs
You keep close to the chest.
00:05:35
Bobbo
Yeah, yeah, I don't think the wave with the wave riders need to know about that. But let's just say I'm not hanging out with anybody in the mistletoe right now.
00:05:39
Mackenzie Forgacs
Okay.
00:05:43
Mackenzie Forgacs
Oh, okay. All right. All right.
00:05:45
Bobbo
what one of One of these days, though. One of these days.
00:05:48
Mackenzie Forgacs
One of these days. Well, hey, you know what? I don't even got anything there. Let's move it.
00:05:56
Bobbo
i You know what?
00:05:58
Mackenzie Forgacs
Oh man, this episode is already chaos.
00:05:59
Bobbo
Dang it.
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Mackenzie Forgacs
And you know what?
00:06:02
Bobbo
We love it.
00:06:02
Mackenzie Forgacs
Welcome back. It is time for the Christmas chaos episode, folks.
00:06:08
Bobbo
Bang.
Christmas Chaos Special Activities
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Mackenzie Forgacs
If you'll remember back the past several years, I don't know, we've done ah like a various amount of...
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Bobbo
Bang.
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Mackenzie Forgacs
Different activities for Christmas Chaos. We've done things where we draw out of a hat the team that we're selecting and then we draw to the hat the confidence that we're selecting and you have to you have to defend it.
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Bobbo
Uh-huh.
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Mackenzie Forgacs
We've done it where you quickly have to rapid fire choose the next three weeks what's going to happen. This year we're doing a little bit of a different take on that.
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Mackenzie Forgacs
We are predicting what's going to happen for the next three weeks because obviously Bob and I will be taking our eye off the ball a little bit and spending some time with loved ones for the holiday season.
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Mackenzie Forgacs
And we won't be recording.
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Bobbo
Speak for yourself.
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Mackenzie Forgacs
Well, we'll be watching football. Don't you worry about that.
00:06:54
Bobbo
Oh, was going to say, oh, my goodness.
00:06:54
Mackenzie Forgacs
But we won't be recording for the next couple weeks.
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Bobbo
scaring me a little Correct.
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Mackenzie Forgacs
So.
00:06:58
Bobbo
Correct.
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Mackenzie Forgacs
We're looking ahead at the next three weeks that shape the playoff season. And what we're bringing to you today for Christmas Chaos is what is going to happen over the next three weeks and what are the playoff seeds going to be?
00:07:12
Mackenzie Forgacs
How we gonna do that, Bob? You want to explain to the fans ah what we're doing?
00:07:16
Bobbo
I'd really, I'd like to try my best. um
00:07:18
Mackenzie Forgacs
I would love if you tried your best.
00:07:19
Bobbo
Very well said. Yes. And and yeah i' I'm going to do my best. And that's all, that's all the wave riders can ask. I'm sure. um And what we end up deciding, which is like, what's going to happen the next three weeks will be the script for the NFL.
00:07:33
Bobbo
So this isn't just like two best pals chatting about NFL shooting the shiz, excuse my French X rated.
00:07:35
Mackenzie Forgacs
You're right.
00:07:40
Bobbo
This is like the script.
00:07:42
Mackenzie Forgacs
The official NFL script.
00:07:42
Bobbo
So Yes, whatever ends up happening in this next 45 or so minutes, maybe an hour, maybe two hours, who knows, will be happening. So let's lock it in. What we're going to do or what we already have done is we have done we have gone to the and like the official NFL playoff picture. simulator, which Mac sent to me.
00:08:05
Bobbo
And um we both have done like, we've chosen every game for the next three weeks, this week, week 17 and week 18, aka the last week of the NFL season. And the simulator tells us if everything that we predicts is going to happen next does happen, which it will, um it tells us the one through seven seed in both the AFC and the NFC.
00:08:31
Bobbo
So it's chaos.
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Mackenzie Forgacs
Bingo.
00:08:33
Bobbo
It's holiday-ish. It's Christmassy. And it's pretty it's pretty awesome.
00:08:38
Mackenzie Forgacs
It is pretty awesome. I do love this little playoff machine. Shout out ESPN. yeah ESPN playoff machine is what we're using here.
00:08:43
Bobbo
Shout out.
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Mackenzie Forgacs
Look it up if you haven't already heard of it.
00:08:47
Bobbo
And that was not her ad.
00:08:48
Mackenzie Forgacs
But yeah, it's, that's not my ad.
00:08:49
Bobbo
That's not her ad, folks.
00:08:50
Mackenzie Forgacs
They are sponsored, but they did not pay for a singing ad. So yeah, yeah ESPN, thanks for the the slight sponsorship, but cough up the bucco bucks if you want some singing ads.
00:08:55
Bobbo
Yep.
00:09:02
Bobbo
If you want some ads, cough up the Bucco Bucks.
00:09:04
Mackenzie Forgacs
yeah
00:09:05
Bobbo
We we got some some extra some extra bonus money from the the holiday season.
00:09:10
Mackenzie Forgacs
Yeah, know but i wouldn't mind I wouldn't mind a little extra spending dollars.
00:09:10
Bobbo
no they will
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Bobbo
That would be pretty nice.
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Mackenzie Forgacs
kind
00:09:16
Bobbo
But yes, shout out out yeah ESPN app um and shout out just an awesome NFL season. Shout out the Bears being competitive. Shout out happiness.
00:09:27
Bobbo
um
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Mackenzie Forgacs
um now Shout out, shout out.
00:09:28
Bobbo
there's a lot There's a lot to catch up on. So should we just should we just kind of dive right in? Because we could be we could be building this thing up for another 45 minutes and let's just let's just dive right in.
00:09:32
Mackenzie Forgacs
I think we should dive right in.
00:09:39
Mackenzie Forgacs
I think we should dive right in. what's our Let's start with looking at the AFC picture for the playoffs here. So how this going to work. We're not going to talk about every single team. We'd be talking about 32 teams for three weeks. And if I do, ohh I don't know, some quick math, that's 96 games that we'd be talking about. And we don't have time for that, right? So... Instead, what we're going to do is we're going to talk about the top seven teams for the AFC and the top seven teams for the NFC based on both of our predictions. So why don't we start it off with the AFC for the seventh seed. And what I'm going to do is
AFC Seventh Seed Predictions
00:10:20
Mackenzie Forgacs
I'm going to tell you about my AFC seventh seed prediction and how they're going to get there. Then I'd love to hear from you who your AFC seventh seed prediction is and how they will get to there as well.
00:10:31
Mackenzie Forgacs
Yes, sir, please. With with the the one that's raising their hand also eating a bite of sourdough bread that they received from their children today.
00:10:40
Bobbo
Yeah, sorry. i'm I'm a little ravenous after school and practice. I'm kind of just gnawing on a big old sourdough loaf. Shout out.
00:10:46
Mackenzie Forgacs
I love that that was a present. shout Don't say the name, but shout out to your kid
00:10:49
Bobbo
Well, smaller than that now is to say, shout out name of student who I will not name and her family who baked me this delicious loaf. um Sorry, Wade Rodders, but not sorry. I'm really hungry. So I'm going to gnawing on some sourdough over the next 45 minutes.
00:11:06
Bobbo
But... Yeah, so I'm talking about my 17 first, or are you talking about your 17 first?
00:11:08
Mackenzie Forgacs
your kid. Your hand was raised. Yep.
00:11:10
Bobbo
Woo!
00:11:11
Mackenzie Forgacs
I'm going to kick it off with my seventh seed for the AFC. We'll see if they match. I'll talk about how they got to this point and we'll see what needs to happen for them. So for me, my prediction for the seventh seed of the AFC is going to be the Houston Texans at 11 and six. And in an order for the Texans to get to that point, here's what needs to happen for them over the course of the next three weeks. So First and foremost, they kick it off this week playing the Raiders. They are at home. I believe they are going to win that game in week 16.
00:11:51
Mackenzie Forgacs
Moving right along to, yes, you look confused there. Did I goof something up or are we looking at different...
00:11:58
Bobbo
Are you saying that? Oh, i'm ah my apologies. um I'm looking at my seventh seed. Spoiler alert, it's not the same. Yep, you're spot on. Sorry about that. Continue.
00:12:08
Mackenzie Forgacs
Okay, sounds good. Week 17, the Houston tean Texans do play the Chargers, who I actually do believe they potentially are going to lose to. But don't worry, have no fear, Houston fans. You could still make the playoffs with a loss to the Chargers, which I have them predicted to lose that week.
00:12:29
Mackenzie Forgacs
And then in week 18, the Texans will need to beat the Colts. I would have said that probably wouldn't have happen several weeks ago.
00:12:38
Bobbo
Thank you.
00:12:39
Mackenzie Forgacs
Right now, the Colts have lost Danny Dimes. They've lost their quarterback. And they now have Phillip Rivers at a... Spry, 44 years old, coming in.
00:12:50
Mackenzie Forgacs
A week ago, he was not playing football. They signed him. He's playing for the Colts. He actually did really, really good against the Seattle Seahawks. Almost won this past weekend. Barely lost at the very end.
00:13:02
Mackenzie Forgacs
Either way, I think that defense, I mean, third week back, they're going to get a little more film on him. I think they're going put a lot of pressure on a guy who Probably should have stayed at home.
00:13:13
Mackenzie Forgacs
No offense, Phillip. And I think the Texans are going to win in week 18. And with that, if they do all of those things and a couple other things happen that we will talk about for the other seeds, then i believe the Texans are going to make it into the playoffs as the seventh seed.
00:13:29
Bobbo
Okay, wow. Great synopsis for Smack. And I will say, i hope we have a lot of ding-ding-dings. We do not have a ding-ding-ding for this one. I don't want to spoil anything.
00:13:38
Mackenzie Forgacs
that's okay. Okay.
00:13:40
Bobbo
I do have your team that you have as a seven slot also in the playoffs. So Houston fans, take a tailpill, put down your pitchforks.
00:13:45
Mackenzie Forgacs
Okay.
00:13:48
Bobbo
Don't put me on the naughty list yet. I think you'll be a little happier with St. what I call it.
00:13:53
Mackenzie Forgacs
I have a feeling that our our week 17 game is going a different direction, if that's the case, in that they're probably maybe a third seed?
00:14:03
Bobbo
You have a ah correct inkling? do you Do you want me to tell you what I have them as?
00:14:08
Mackenzie Forgacs
Sure, Ian, why don't you also tell us the seventh seed?
00:14:11
Bobbo
I guess that would save us some time because Mac did guess correctly. So Houston, you don't have a problem because I have Houston winning the next three games against the Raiders, like Mac said, week 18 against the Colts, like Mac said.
00:14:24
Bobbo
But i think that defense has just been unbelievable. It's like eight reindeers, like Dasher, Dancer, Prancer, Vixen, Tom, Cupid, Donner, and Vixen, just all on their games at all times.
00:14:34
Bobbo
No one's getting through those reindeer in the secondary season. I have them beating the Chargers week 17. That game is in LA, but I have Houston prancing and dancing in into LA winning that game.
00:14:47
Mackenzie Forgacs
Prancing dancing.
00:14:48
Bobbo
So I have prancing and dancing, prancer and dancer. So I do have Houston as the three seed, but that leaves my seventh seed as the Chargers.
00:14:55
Mackenzie Forgacs
Okay.
00:14:59
Bobbo
Okay.
00:15:00
Mackenzie Forgacs
Okay, that makes sense. Yep, I was between those two as well. So that makes a ton of sense for sure.
00:15:06
Bobbo
So that would mean the Chargers, so they play the Cowboys in Dallas this weekend. Cowboys with losing to J.J. McCarthy and the the Vikings on Sunday night made their playoff chances literally minuscule. There's like a million things that need to happen. Cowboys are done now. So i think they're going to be a little down and out. Chargers going to win that game. Next week, L.A.,
00:15:25
Bobbo
um As we said, play Houston. I think they're going to trip up and lose that game. But I do think that in week 18, they will bounce back. oh looks like I have them losing to the Broncos in week 18.
00:15:35
Bobbo
So e even with losing the last two weeks, they've built up enough goodwill, goodwill to all this holiday season.
00:15:36
Mackenzie Forgacs
Okay.
00:15:45
Bobbo
I have them finishing 11 and six, and that would gift them, gift wrap them, the seven seed in the in the AFC.
00:15:52
Mackenzie Forgacs
Okay, all right, I like it. I also have the Chargers making the playoffs. Have no fear, Chargers fans. I have them actually at the fifth seed, and their difference there is that I have them, of course, similarly winning this week.
00:15:58
Bobbo
us.
00:16:06
Mackenzie Forgacs
I have them winning against the Texans, and I actually, based on my seeding, have the Denver Broncos likely sitting some players in that final week just due to the the position that they are in.
00:16:22
Mackenzie Forgacs
And if that happens, I could absolutely see the Chargers winning. So with that, I have the Chargers at the fifth seed.
00:16:29
Bobbo
Great call. Mac is doing her due diligence. She is doing the work. I didn't even think of that.
00:16:33
Mackenzie Forgacs
It's possible. It's also possible they will not. I mean, the the way I have it set up right now, the Broncos will be in a position where they're not going to lose the one seed, but it's anything could happen, as you know.
00:16:46
Mackenzie Forgacs
So again, we're just going based on what we feel in this very moment on 1217. My sister's birthday. Happy birthday, Carly. And we're just going with our guy.
00:16:55
Bobbo
Oh, Harley. Happy birthday.
00:16:57
Mackenzie Forgacs
Carly, happy birthday.
00:16:58
Bobbo
Wow.
00:16:59
Mackenzie Forgacs
Yeah.
00:17:00
Bobbo
ah You know what? I need to shoot her a little birthday message. Happy birthday, Carly. Shout out. hope
00:17:05
Mackenzie Forgacs
Oh, there you go. yay shooter one in the fantasy. There you go.
00:17:09
Bobbo
Absolutely, I will.
00:17:11
Mackenzie Forgacs
Perfect. So we've got Houston and Los Angeles, both Los Angeles Chargers, both making it into the playoffs either way, depending
Ravens' Seed Debate
00:17:21
Mackenzie Forgacs
on their seeding.
00:17:22
Mackenzie Forgacs
So love that. Two out of the seven slots were on the same page. Shall we look at the sixth seed for the AFC?
00:17:27
Bobbo
will.
00:17:32
Bobbo
Let's absolutely do it.
00:17:34
Mackenzie Forgacs
What do you got for the sixth seed, Bob?
00:17:36
Bobbo
So, great sourdough bread. Six seed, I have a team i have a team that has caught fire, caught a little bit of Christmas spirit here the last few weeks.
00:17:41
Mackenzie Forgacs
Sorry.
00:17:49
Mackenzie Forgacs
Oh, a little Christmas fire.
00:17:51
Bobbo
They've caught a little Christmas spice, a little, I don't know, maybe a little a little cider with some extra captain in there, maybe some some spiced eggnog. They've caught something spicy, and they are hot. They are currently, I believe they're 10-6. I have them finishing at 12-5, and it's a team that has been decent for a while, but they have not made any waves, huh making waves, ah in a while. It's the Jacksonville Jaguars at the sixth seed.
00:18:21
Mackenzie Forgacs
ha. Love that. I also have Jacksonville making it to the playoffs. And I'm sorry, didn't mean to cut you off there. How are they going to get to the sixth seed?
00:18:30
Bobbo
Can you say Nautilus? Geez.
00:18:32
Mackenzie Forgacs
Sorry.
00:18:33
Bobbo
Can I freaking talk? Yeah, jingle, jingle. Instead of instead of ah ding, ding, ding, it'll be jingle, jingle, jingle tonight, Christmas.
00:18:41
Mackenzie Forgacs
Perfect.
00:18:42
Bobbo
know
00:18:43
Mackenzie Forgacs
Love it.
00:18:43
Bobbo
So we got a little jingle, jingle, jingle. um For them to get there, this week they play at Denver. I have them losing week 16 at Denver. Next week they play, it looks like, I'm on the phone view here. It looks like next week they play At Indianapolis, I have them beating Old Man Rivers.
00:19:06
Bobbo
And then week 18, they play at home against the worst team in the NFL, the Titans. So have them going two at one. That will get them to 12 and five, which will not, in my projections, unfortunately for Jacksonville, be be good enough to win the South.
00:19:22
Bobbo
I have the Texans winning the South at the same record, and they have the the um tiebreaker. But that does have them good enough to be the sixth seed. So shout out Trevor Lawrence, Lord Farquaad.
00:19:31
Mackenzie Forgacs
Okay. All right. Yeah. Shouts out Jacksonville. I agree. i also have them in the playoffs. I actually do have them winning the South. So I have them bumping all the way up to that third seed slot with the same wins over the course of the next three weeks, but just that one loss by Houston to the Chargers.
00:19:53
Mackenzie Forgacs
So As we a lot on the line.
00:19:54
Bobbo
Okay.
00:19:55
Mackenzie Forgacs
One loss, one game can make or break a season, can make or break your seeding. And it's not going on.
00:20:01
Bobbo
Yep.
00:20:03
Mackenzie Forgacs
But I'm glad, jingle, jingle, jingle, we both agree, the Jags. So three for three, we've got three of the same teams making in the playoffs right now. And let's move right along.
00:20:14
Mackenzie Forgacs
I already said in my fifth seed as the Los Angeles Chargers, so I'm gonna jump to my fourth. But feel free to say your fifth. When we get back around to it, when we get to a seed that you've already said.
00:20:25
Bobbo
Sounds great.
00:20:26
Mackenzie Forgacs
Perfect. So jumping up to my fourth seed is a team that honestly, we thought were down and out for a while. It is a team that is led by a stud MVP caliber quarterback.
00:20:41
Mackenzie Forgacs
He had some injuries. He was out. And there was a while where this team, their back was fully up against the wall.
00:20:44
Bobbo
Mm-hmm.
00:20:48
Mackenzie Forgacs
I think it still is. I think they really still need to keep. winning at this point. It's a tight race in the AFC North between them and their closest competitor at this time.
00:20:59
Mackenzie Forgacs
But I believe that the Baltimore Ravens are going to come back from what appeared to be a a losing season, a season where they were hitting the high road.
00:21:10
Mackenzie Forgacs
And I think they're going to snag that fourth seed just by winning the AFC North. So what do they need to get there? First and foremost, or week 16, I have them, believe it or not, beating the New England Patriots.
00:21:17
Bobbo
Yes. Yes. Yes.
00:21:25
Mackenzie Forgacs
I think, again, a team with their back against the wall. They've got a lot to lose. I think Lamar Jackson gets it done at home. Moving into week 17, I believe they are going to beat the Green Bay Packers. Bob and I both need them to beat the Green Bay Packers, I am putting my whole heart and soul into that. And then on top of that, Week 18, I have them beating the Steelers to win the North. So likely that the AFC North is going to come down to that Week 18 matchup against the Steelers. I think the Steelers are going lose this weekend, hopefully to my boys. I think the Steelers are then going to go and who do they play?
00:22:06
Mackenzie Forgacs
Week 17. I got to find them here.
00:22:10
Bobbo
Steelers, Steelers, Steelers, Steelers.
00:22:11
Mackenzie Forgacs
Where are they?
00:22:12
Bobbo
Steelers play the Browns.
00:22:14
Mackenzie Forgacs
I'm going play the Browns. I think they'll win. Yeah, I think they'll win that game. So, yeah, I think it's going to come down to week 18. And whoever wins is going to snag that fourth seed. And I just believe so much more in Lamar Jackson than I do in Aaron Rodgers. So go get them. Go get them, Lamar.
00:22:29
Bobbo
Go get them. That's like jolly old St. Nick versus the Grinch, truly. And I know my co-host really dearly loves it.
00:22:33
Mackenzie Forgacs
Truly. But I love the Grinch.
00:22:36
Bobbo
He loves the Grinch, so that probably really stings to hear me compare Aaron Rodgers to one of your favorite Hollywood characters, the Grinch. um But he really is like the Grinch. He steals Christmas. he He steals joy.
00:22:47
Bobbo
His heart is as small as small as a ah mealworm. It's a lot similarities.
00:22:53
Mackenzie Forgacs
Yeah,
00:22:54
Bobbo
He probably smells awful.
00:22:56
Mackenzie Forgacs
yeah probably. He probably does.
00:22:57
Bobbo
Aaron's probably not nearly as funny as the Grinch. Your your Grinch is pretty funny.
00:23:02
Mackenzie Forgacs
Yeah.
00:23:04
Bobbo
Um, we are very similar though.
00:23:04
Mackenzie Forgacs
Oh, man.
00:23:06
Bobbo
And sorry to, uh, go on a tangent.
00:23:06
Mackenzie Forgacs
Okay. No, please.
00:23:08
Bobbo
I just had, you know what? I'm sorry. I take it back. Aaron Rogers is more like Ebenezer Scrooge. Is that better?
00:23:15
Mackenzie Forgacs
That's perfect. I'll take that.
00:23:16
Bobbo
Thank you. He, he doesn't help out children who are like really needing help and he doesn't care about anybody else. He's just like money, money, money, me, me, me. That's Ebenezer before he got visited by the three ghosts of Christmas. That's Aaron Rogers.
00:23:33
Mackenzie Forgacs
Yeah, that is Aaron Rodgers. Obviously, we're not big fans.
00:23:38
Bobbo
No, we love them.
00:23:40
Bobbo
Okay. Thank you for going through that. um A jingle, jingle, jingle because I'll go to my fifth seed in a while. I also have the Baltimore Ravens finishing 3-0 and winning the AFC North in that win or go home um week 18 matchup against the Steelers and of a formatted Ebenezer.
00:23:59
Mackenzie Forgacs
Okay.
00:24:03
Bobbo
And I didn't realize as I was going through the games how hard their schedule is. That's like unbelievable with...
00:24:08
Mackenzie Forgacs
Yes. Yeah.
00:24:11
Bobbo
Patriots, or sorry, oh yeah, Patriots, um Packers, and then Steelers.
00:24:14
Mackenzie Forgacs
I know.
00:24:16
Bobbo
So that's Bears, my boys, we'll get to that. Don't worry, we'll get to that. Our final three is unbelievably hard. That final three is like the gauntlet.
00:24:23
Mackenzie Forgacs
Yeah.
00:24:25
Bobbo
But I guess it's just like, yeah.
00:24:25
Mackenzie Forgacs
For sure.
00:24:28
Mackenzie Forgacs
Sorry, very doable, though, because even if I just clicked through it, even if they lose to the Patriots this weekend, they will still win as long as they win the last two. So very doable, Ravens fans.
00:24:38
Bobbo
Got it.
00:24:39
Mackenzie Forgacs
Don't you worry.
00:24:40
Bobbo
Very doable, and that's a good that's a good little side
Top AFC Seeds: Patriots and Broncos
00:24:43
Bobbo
note. So we'll save a little bit of time because we both got um Ravens at jingle, jingle, jingle. My fifth seed is another team that was looking down and out a couple weeks ago. Now, even with all the really strong records like the Patriots, oh, they're 11-2, 11-3, whatever. Oh, the Broncos are 11-3.
00:25:05
Bobbo
Hogwash. Those teams haven't performed In the playoffs, you know who has? Josh Allen, James Cook, that defense.
00:25:14
Mackenzie Forgacs
Okay, here we go.
00:25:16
Bobbo
I still, I said it back in September, and I stand by it. I think a team that I hold really dear and and near to my heart is starting to to make me wonder about other things. But I still think the Bills are the team to beat. They're my five seed.
00:25:33
Bobbo
And how are they going to get there, you might ask? Great question, Matt. I'm going tell you. So this weekend, they play the Browns. Easy win. Boom. Next weekend, they play against, I don't know, the Super Bowl champs.
00:25:43
Mackenzie Forgacs
Oh.
00:25:46
Bobbo
Easy. My my Bears went into Philly and beat them. Buffalo's going to beat them in Buffalo. Eagles, who? Smell you later. Week 18, J-E-T-S, more like...
00:25:58
Bobbo
go into Buffalo, easy win by the Bills. They're going to finish out three and o They're not going to win the division because I do have the Patriots. Don't want to ahead. I got the Bills finishing at 13-4 and snagging that fifth seed.
00:26:14
Bobbo
They still can win the division.
00:26:17
Mackenzie Forgacs
Yep.
00:26:17
Bobbo
It's an uphill battle, but they still can. and I got them as five seed.
00:26:20
Mackenzie Forgacs
Okay. Love it. Very close. I also have the Bills making the playoffs. I also have them going three and out at the for the rest of the stretch. I do have them as the sixth seed, though, just based on other records in the in the division. But, yes, it looks like so far we have chosen all the same teams to make the playoffs. So we are just cruising.
00:26:44
Bobbo
we're We're cruising. We are like Santa's sleigh right now, just ripping through the atmosphere we're cruising.
00:26:49
Mackenzie Forgacs
And I think we're all the way up to, at least for me, the second seed. And you just mentioned this team who is potentially going to win the AFC East.
00:26:53
Bobbo
Oh, oh.
00:26:59
Mackenzie Forgacs
I have that as the New England Patriots. This is a team. I know you said it once. Their schedule this season has really, I think, helped them to get to this point.
00:27:10
Mackenzie Forgacs
But either way, A win is a win in the NFL, and they're here.
00:27:14
Bobbo
Yeah.
00:27:15
Mackenzie Forgacs
They're at 11-3. I think they win two out of their last three and end the season 13-4. Tied with Buffalo. They do have the tie break over Buffalo, so they would snag that number two seed in my rankings over here.
00:27:30
Mackenzie Forgacs
But I do think that they are going to... finish the season strong with several wins and end up at that two seed spot. So what would happen? I already said that I think the Ravens are going to win this upcoming weekend.
00:27:43
Mackenzie Forgacs
Week 17, J-E-T-S, more like, and just I just spit so much.
00:27:48
Bobbo
Nice.
00:27:52
Bobbo
i would I wish I could see the screen. I'm literally looking on up so on my computer at just a cracked laptop.
00:27:55
Mackenzie Forgacs
Oh.
00:27:56
Bobbo
I can hear it. I'm sure the spit was just all over.
00:27:59
Mackenzie Forgacs
Oh, my God. I just spiddled so much. Yikes.
00:28:03
Bobbo
Of course.
00:28:04
Mackenzie Forgacs
And then week 18, they have the Dolphins, and there will still be a lot on the line for them, obviously, with Buffalo breathing right down their necks. So I think they're going play all out and easily win that game against the Dolphins. But who knows? Dolphins could play spoiler. I just don't see it happening. So I've got New England at number two.
00:28:24
Bobbo
Number two. Oh, geez. Speaking of spittle, I can feel that through my freaking broken broken laptop.
00:28:28
Mackenzie Forgacs
Oh my gosh.
00:28:29
Bobbo
My goodness. um I know we only have about 20 minutes, um and I know we're going to want to talk a lot in the NFC. So I'm just going to save us a lot of time. I got the Patriots. You just explained exactly how they're going to get there.
00:28:41
Bobbo
So I also got the Patriots at two. And then that tells me our number one spot is also the same. So I will ah i will i will grab this.
00:28:48
Mackenzie Forgacs
Jingle, jingle, jingle. Tell us, Bob.
00:28:51
Bobbo
Jingle, jingle, jingle. I'll grab the sleigh reins if you don't mind and talk about the Broncos why they're going to be the one
00:28:55
Mackenzie Forgacs
They're yours. I'm throwing them to you.
00:28:58
Bobbo
Caught. Got it. This week, the Broncos coming off a big win against the Packers. Little bow, tip of the cap. Thank you, Denver. They play...
00:29:07
Mackenzie Forgacs
Thank you, Venza.
00:29:08
Bobbo
Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Nix. um They play the Jags, another playoff team that me and McKenz agree on. I think they're going to win in Denver against a tough Jags team.
00:29:21
Bobbo
Next week, they go to a much different looking Kansas City team, Week 17. Broncos fans were probably shaking in their boots at the start of the season in August when the schedule came out, thinking, oh, got to go to Arrowhead Week 17.
00:29:35
Bobbo
I'm Oh, you're good. Gardner Minshew. They've already been eliminated from the playoffs. Easy peasy. They're going to march into a very different looking um Kansas City with no playoff berth for the first time in 11 years.
00:29:47
Bobbo
Who? Who? Who?
00:29:48
Mackenzie Forgacs
Wow.
00:29:48
Bobbo
Sorry, Taylor.
00:29:49
Mackenzie Forgacs
was so That's a big nugget right there.
00:29:50
Bobbo
Wowza. That's a big nugget. No offense to Taylor. I hope you and Travis have a great offseason. But you'll you'll be in Cancun a little earlier this year than than expected.
00:29:59
Mackenzie Forgacs
Yeah. Enjoy Cancun.
00:30:00
Bobbo
Right. Yep, enjoy Cancun. And then week 18, they host a big game against the Chargers that me and Mac have already covered. I have them beating the Chargers. So I have them going 3-0 to finish a whopping 15-2. Mac's Lions last year also completed the 15-2 task. And that is how the Broncos are going to lock up the one seed. Rather rather easily, I might add, by two full games in the AFC.
00:30:28
Mackenzie Forgacs
Wowza, jingle, jingle, jingle. I also have them at one. Obviously, we talked about the difference that I have in week 18 with them, but no matter. They will already have that one seed.
00:30:39
Mackenzie Forgacs
They will keep that one seed. And yeah, congrats, Broncos fans. i mean, they had they went through a little bit of a rough ah rough ride, if you will, with Russell Wilson.
00:30:45
Bobbo
Congrats.
00:30:51
Mackenzie Forgacs
Let's ride. And so good for them.
00:30:52
Bobbo
That's right.
00:30:53
Mackenzie Forgacs
you know They got their quarterback of the future, and they're they're making moves.
00:30:58
Bobbo
They're making moves. They're not they're not going to you know go far in the playoffs. That's a discussion for another day. Sorry, Denver. Chill out. I'm just joking. So that's the AAC.
00:31:05
Mackenzie Forgacs
um Well, that's AFC, and I think it's going to be pretty much time to move on in the NFC, but first, I do believe it is time for a word from our very high-paying sponsors.
00:31:06
Bobbo
Okay.
00:31:08
Bobbo
I'm just kidding.
00:31:19
Bobbo
I was going to literally just do that, but you had the mic and I couldn't take it out of your hands. take
00:31:23
Mackenzie Forgacs
I know, I stole it. I knew it. I knew it. I knew it.
00:31:26
Bobbo
Dang it. Jingle bell, jingle bell, jingle bell rock. Do, do, do, do do do You've got your rocks, dot your wood in the bar.
00:31:42
Bobbo
That's the rocks that you need. Wood? Who puts wood in a fireplace anymore? Put our charcoal charcoal rocks. Get a pack for $29.99. Stuff them in your fireplace.
00:31:56
Bobbo
It burns bright, it burns long, and it'll keep out any intruders. Catch your rocks. Put them your fireplace. them bright.
00:32:08
Bobbo
Rocks.
00:32:10
Mackenzie Forgacs
I wish you could see my face right now. rocks? What rocks? What are we talking about?
00:32:18
Bobbo
i was I was trying connect Cole.
00:32:21
Mackenzie Forgacs
What?
00:32:24
Bobbo
In my head, I thought Jingle Bell Rock, Cole, Rock.
00:32:26
Mackenzie Forgacs
oh Oh, Jingle Bell Rock.
00:32:30
Bobbo
And I never made the connection from Rock to Cole. And I was going
00:32:33
Mackenzie Forgacs
Jingle Bell Rocks. Rocks. Get your rocks.
00:32:39
Bobbo
sos to try to say, keep out all intruders other than a certain fat man coming down the chimney on the night of the 24th. And I was so nervous.
00:32:46
Mackenzie Forgacs
Oh wow.
00:32:48
Bobbo
I had a really had a good thought. that was That was really bad. That was really bad.
00:32:51
Mackenzie Forgacs
Get your rocks. Hey, that's all right.
00:32:54
Bobbo
I could have easily just said, get a sourdough loaf from your favorite student and her parent.
00:32:54
Mackenzie Forgacs
That's totally okay. The sourdough loaf.
00:33:00
Bobbo
Shout out, Rocks.
00:33:00
Mackenzie Forgacs
Oh no.
00:33:01
Bobbo
I don't know what brand you are. ah chart charcoal Charcoal exclusive. um thanks for Thanks for the really high-paying Christmas Chaos ad, and get your bag of rocks for $26.99.
00:33:13
Mackenzie Forgacs
Get your bag of rocks. I love it. Hey, charcoal rocks, with that sounds like that could be a thing. So.
00:33:19
Bobbo
I'm sweating. i have sweat coming off my brow.
00:33:20
Mackenzie Forgacs
Yeah, um and go and get yourself a bag.
00:33:21
Bobbo
That was so bad. Charcoal rocks. Hey, don't get go and get yourself a bag. They're pretty nice.
00:33:28
Mackenzie Forgacs
And hey, no worries at all, Bob, on the ad. I think I have something that's going to cheer you right up. And it's talking about the NFC,
Playoff Hopes and Christmas Miracles
00:33:36
Mackenzie Forgacs
because guess what?
00:33:37
Bobbo
Thank you.
00:33:39
Mackenzie Forgacs
There is still hope, Bob.
00:33:39
Bobbo
What?
00:33:41
Mackenzie Forgacs
believe it or not, that both of our boys can make the playoffs and the Green Bay Packers will be out, eliminated.
00:33:52
Mackenzie Forgacs
If it isn't a Christmas miracle, I don't know what is. So I hope that cheers you up and takes your mind off of the rocks.
00:34:00
Bobbo
Mac, that was literally like I was on the top of Mount Crumpet looking down at Whoville and I hear the who do
00:34:08
Mackenzie Forgacs
Dore, fahu, dore. Welcome Christmas.
00:34:12
Bobbo
welcome Christmas, Christmas.
00:34:18
Mackenzie Forgacs
Cheer.
00:34:19
Bobbo
there i was Nice.
00:34:20
Mackenzie Forgacs
Fahu.
00:34:21
Bobbo
And it's like, we're still going, da, who, oh do, do, do
00:34:23
Mackenzie Forgacs
Sorry, no, we're done. We're done.
00:34:32
Bobbo
whoville's presence and i'm like ah that ad was so bad rocks what am i talking about and i'm just getting ready to push it over the edge saying i ruin christmas and i looked down at everyone's holding hands singing bahoo dora and my heart grows
00:34:37
Mackenzie Forgacs
Rocks. Ugh.
00:34:46
Mackenzie Forgacs
bigger and bigger and bigger!
00:34:46
Bobbo
ah hundred sizes and i grab it Suzy Lou Who, I got you. Bang.
00:34:52
Mackenzie Forgacs
Wait!
00:34:53
Bobbo
Suzy Lou Who.
00:34:53
Mackenzie Forgacs
Who? No, not Susie! Susie!
00:34:57
Bobbo
Cindy. Sorry, Cindy.
00:35:00
Mackenzie Forgacs
Simi Lou Lou!
00:35:02
Bobbo
ah The Lou Who's are probably like, is he kidding me right now?
00:35:03
Mackenzie Forgacs
Susie Lou Lou! Oh my god!
00:35:07
Bobbo
They're listening from their snowflake thinking, what the hell?
00:35:11
Mackenzie Forgacs
That's hilarious.
00:35:11
Bobbo
Cindy. Cindy Lou, who and I lift up the sleigh and say, no Packers, Bears and Lions, double air five.
00:35:13
Mackenzie Forgacs
Okay.
00:35:18
Bobbo
I can't see you, but yes.
00:35:20
Mackenzie Forgacs
Double their five. Packers and Lions.
00:35:22
Bobbo
that Bears and Lions. um i I want to be able to talk about the NFL. I'd love to talk about the, you know, Whoville um comparisons.
00:35:32
Bobbo
I'm going let you start with your seventh seed. And yeah, because there's a lot going on here with my my teams.
00:35:37
Mackenzie Forgacs
There is. There is a lot going on here. And so, believe it or not, um I hope you will forgive me for this, but this is the best way that we can both make it into the playoffs, Bob.
00:35:50
Mackenzie Forgacs
And starting off with the seventh seed for the NFC for me, I do have, which this is still great, going from last year to this year. This is still really good. So before before you get upset, I do have the Chicago Bears at the seventh seed coming in.
00:36:08
Bobbo
Slay pushed off the edge of Mount Crumpet.
00:36:11
Mackenzie Forgacs
No, Suzy Lou Who! No.
00:36:13
Bobbo
How are you, Susie? See ya. Susie, Cindy, whatever your name is, bye. I'm
00:36:17
Mackenzie Forgacs
Oh, no, no, no, no. Hear me out. Hear me out.
00:36:20
Bobbo
listening.
00:36:20
Mackenzie Forgacs
This is how we can, we're going to work together as a team. And you know what? It's going to start this weekend with your boys beating the Green Bay Packers. How you like that, Bob?
00:36:31
Mackenzie Forgacs
I'm fully, yes, you're getting strength.
00:36:31
Bobbo
Slay picked back up.
00:36:33
Mackenzie Forgacs
You're getting strength. He's lifting me above his head and he's feeling good. The Bears winning this week against the Packers.
00:36:42
Bobbo
Har.
00:36:43
Mackenzie Forgacs
We look ahead.
00:36:43
Bobbo
Har.
00:36:43
Mackenzie Forgacs
Week 17.
00:36:45
Bobbo
Har.
00:36:45
Mackenzie Forgacs
We are taking on the San Francisco 49ers. So unfortunately, I do have them losing week 17. But that is okay because they will be 11-4.
00:36:56
Mackenzie Forgacs
anne four Moving into week 18, they do play my boys. And in order for my boys to make it to the playoffs, I am going to need you please to concede a win here.
00:37:10
Mackenzie Forgacs
And then we can both be in the playoffs together. So that's my proposition to you, friend to friend, so can both be in the playoffs. You will win one out of the next three. You'll still be in the playoffs. How incredible. You'll only have to win one out of the next three still be in the playoffs. And here you go. Seven seed Chicago bears. Yes.
00:37:29
Mackenzie Forgacs
Questions from the audience.
00:37:30
Bobbo
Um, so sounds great and all both of us being, you know, in the playoffs, but, um, so then you get the two seed and you get the NFC North division title, and then you get the home game at Ford fields.
00:37:46
Mackenzie Forgacs
Yes, that's correct.
00:37:47
Bobbo
Yeah. That feels like I don't love that deal at all. Actually, as, as
00:37:51
Mackenzie Forgacs
Well, basically this is all I was able to see the, Either this happens or the Lions are in the playoffs with the Packers or the Lions are out.
00:38:05
Mackenzie Forgacs
So this is a win-win for us.
00:38:05
Bobbo
or hurt the taxes Or the Packers lose three out of three to the Bears, the Ravens, and the Vikings. And then we beat you guys week 18. We get the division. Yippee. Bob hasn't had a division title in almost a decade. Mack had two in the last two years. And then you're coming to Chicago as a 17. Now we're really all happy.
00:38:23
Mackenzie Forgacs
Okay, I didn't realize that was possible, but I will say that I don't think that the Packers will lose the Vikings. So to me, this is the most realistic option, and also it's a win-win.
00:38:34
Bobbo
Okay. you remember that part where baby Grinch bit off Santa's glass head?
00:38:38
Mackenzie Forgacs
Yes.
00:38:39
Bobbo
I'm going to bite off this Christmas tree, this glass Christmas tree.
00:38:42
Mackenzie Forgacs
Well, here we go. i know we know I know we're running out of time, so why don't you tell me what's going to happen and who the seventh seed is for you? Is it what you just explained?
00:38:49
Bobbo
Can I make Grinch comparisons for another 10 minutes first?
00:38:53
Mackenzie Forgacs
Please.
00:38:54
Bobbo
um Mac, you're really going mad at me. Speaking of biting off Santa's head. Yeah.
00:38:59
Mackenzie Forgacs
you can't You kicked the Lions out entirely.
00:39:02
Bobbo
i did I didn't kick anybody out. I went through every game for three weeks and so somehow on my app it says the Packers of the seven seed.
00:39:13
Mackenzie Forgacs
Bob.
00:39:13
Bobbo
I don't know. I don't know how that happened. I didn't want that to happen.
00:39:18
Mackenzie Forgacs
Because you think they're going to beat the Vikings, don't you?
00:39:21
Bobbo
a i have the the Packers.
00:39:24
Mackenzie Forgacs
So you have the Lions in it all.
00:39:25
Bobbo
Somehow it happened that the Packers of the seven seed. i Hey, I didn't say that yet.
00:39:30
Mackenzie Forgacs
Some friend you are.
00:39:32
Bobbo
I didn't say that yet. but Can i explain
00:39:34
Mackenzie Forgacs
i know I know that's the case.
00:39:36
Bobbo
can I explain how I got here?
00:39:38
Mackenzie Forgacs
The three of us cannot be in the playoffs. It's statistically impossible.
00:39:43
Bobbo
um yeah ah Sorry, you broke up there. So week 16 to Saturday night. I'm really happy I can't see your face right now because it's funny.
00:39:51
Mackenzie Forgacs
Yeah, I was just about to say, you're really lucky you can't see me right now.
00:39:54
Bobbo
probably glaring at me. and I'm like, oh I'm just looking at like a black screen right now. Thank goodness. um Green Bay comes to Chicago. I can still feel it though. Gosh, they come to Chicago this Saturday night.
00:40:06
Bobbo
My boys dub. I'm, i no dub next weekend Packers play the Ravens Ravens win amazing Max like oh why am I mad at my best friend you shouldn't be Packers just lost back to back to back games Broncos Bears Ravens the problem is week 18 the Packers go to Minnesota and hey if this happens I'm gonna be all on JJ McCarthy and the Vikings cheering my cheering my little tail off
00:40:38
Bobbo
but I got to be honest to the wave riders and I got hackers winning that game, which puts them at 10, six and one, which somehow this calculator has them at the seven seed.
00:40:41
Mackenzie Forgacs
Yeah, same.
00:40:49
Bobbo
So that's where we're at.
00:40:52
Mackenzie Forgacs
Interesting. Very, very interesting. So you have, nevermind, I'll let you explain it in a minute, but you're trying to, you're trying to tell me that you're also going to beat the lions.
00:41:07
Bobbo
Well, I haven't said that yet.
00:41:09
Mackenzie Forgacs
And you think you're going to beat the 49ers?
00:41:12
Bobbo
I didn't say that.
00:41:12
Mackenzie Forgacs
You are DeLulu.
00:41:13
Bobbo
No. i actually I actually don't think. I have the Bears going two and one. I'll explain it. I don't have us winning all three.
00:41:19
Mackenzie Forgacs
All right. So you have them beating the Lions and the Packers.
00:41:23
Bobbo
Maybe. Maybe. Oh, five, six seed.
00:41:25
Mackenzie Forgacs
All right. you You know what?
00:41:27
Bobbo
We should definitely talk about that.
00:41:29
Mackenzie Forgacs
We should talk about that. And you know what? Maybe I'll just change my algorithm here to what I think is actually going to happen, which is the Bears losing this weekend, Bob.
00:41:37
Bobbo
Okay, that is naughty. That is called vengeful. And I didn't anything to deserve that.
00:41:45
Mackenzie Forgacs
That is vengeful. That is not true.
00:41:47
Bobbo
You know what? Speaking of coal and charcoal and rocks, do you want your stock in full of that ish? Or do you want to wake up with some cool stuff? Because you're teetering right now.
00:41:59
Bobbo
And that was very reactory, reactory, reactive.
00:42:02
Mackenzie Forgacs
Yeah, well, reacting with bad, too bad. It doesn't make it good, but it's bad and bad, so.
00:42:10
Bobbo
Hey, don't don't don't attack the messenger. The algorithm's not yet. That was just the seventh seed. We still got six to go.
00:42:17
Mackenzie Forgacs
We do.
00:42:18
Bobbo
Come
00:42:18
Mackenzie Forgacs
But I know what that means already for you. And I just have to tell you, you know what? I'm not even going to be revengeful anymore. I just have to tell you, I'm hurt. Heading into the Christmas season, I'm hurt. um'm I'm disappointed.
00:42:29
Bobbo
on. Be vengeful instead. I don't want you to be upset with me or it hurts.
00:42:35
Mackenzie Forgacs
Looking at the sixth seed, you're up.
00:42:39
Bobbo
Well, Christmas is ruined. it's not ah it's It's a blue Christmas. I'll have a blue, blue, blue, blue Christmas. Speaking of blue, Seattle, they're blue. They play in Seattle.
00:42:49
Bobbo
Their colors are blue. And I got them finishing at 12-5 as my sixth seed. How are they going to get there, Bob?
00:42:56
Mackenzie Forgacs
Jingle, jingle, jingle.
00:42:56
Bobbo
Oh, Mac, I'm you're here. Jingle, jingle, jangle. How are they going get there, Bob Mack? I'm happy you forgave me. You asked me that question. going answer that right now. They play tomorrow night in a massive game for your co-host because I am in my semifinals dynasty playoffs and I've got Puka and I've got Parkinson for the Rams and I need them to go buck wild in Seattle.
00:43:21
Bobbo
I've got the Rams beating the Seahawks tomorrow. Next week, I've got... the The Seahawks going into a sneaky Carolina team. And I'm interested to see who we both have winning the NFC South because they are currently tied for the first.
00:43:36
Mackenzie Forgacs
Yep.
00:43:36
Bobbo
I've got Seattle beating the Panthers. And then week 18, I've got them losing to the 49ers in San Fran.
00:43:47
Bobbo
Another team with three hard games. So that gets them to 12-5, which gets them to be my sixth seed.
00:43:53
Mackenzie Forgacs
Okay. Well, I have the exact same choices there for Seattle Seahawks. So we can move right along to the fifth seed.
00:44:00
Bobbo
Amazing.
00:44:03
Mackenzie Forgacs
I have another NFC West team. Believe it or not, I have...
00:44:07
Bobbo
Jingle, jingle, jingle.
00:44:08
Mackenzie Forgacs
Believe it or not, I have three of them in the NFC playoffs. That's kind of crazy to think about that three from one division are going to potentially make the playoffs. But I have the San Francisco 49ers finishing out their season going three and o ending the season How are they going to get to that fifth seed?
00:44:32
Mackenzie Forgacs
First up week 16, the 49ers play the Colts. I have them winning that game again against the Phillip Rivers there. Week 17, I have them going and I do, I'm sorry, have them beating the Bears. It sounds like maybe you do as well.
00:44:51
Mackenzie Forgacs
And week 18, I have them finishing the season, beating the Seattle Seahawks.
00:44:51
Bobbo
You smell like cheese and lime.
00:44:58
Mackenzie Forgacs
So that will be an interesting game. That's going to determine the fifth and sixth seed. That's really just going to determine, you know, who's that one step higher. And I think it is going to be the 49ers because it is at home.
00:45:10
Mackenzie Forgacs
It is week 18. There's still a lot on the line. I think they're going to go in and win that game. So that's what we've got. And it seems like potentially you also have that.
00:45:20
Bobbo
You smell like beef, cheese, and lies.
00:45:22
Mackenzie Forgacs
Do I?
00:45:24
Bobbo
is that Is that the quote from Elf?
00:45:26
Mackenzie Forgacs
um Close. i think he just says you smell like beef and cheese.
00:45:30
Bobbo
Ah, not the lies part. I just said because you said that you were sorry about the the Niners beating the Bears. But, alas.
00:45:35
Mackenzie Forgacs
Oh yeah, then I do definitely smell like beef and cheese.
00:45:38
Bobbo
You smell like beef and cheese. I knew it. You smell like beef and cheese. I wish I could say I disagree with any of that. I don't. i have the exact same – um the exact same game outcomes, all three, I've got them at 13 and four. and I've got them at the five seed. So let's, let's move right along to the four seed.
00:45:54
Mackenzie Forgacs
All right, let's move right along. And I think this potentially is going to be determining who wins the and NFC South. So really, for me, and NFC South, only one team's going to make it. and NFC East, one team's going to make it. NFC North, two.
00:46:08
Mackenzie Forgacs
NFC West, three. I think that's your breakdown as well. But jingle, jingle, jingle, let's hear it for the fourth seed.
00:46:11
Bobbo
Jingle, jingle, jingle.
00:46:15
Mackenzie Forgacs
Who do you got winning and how they getting there?
Buccaneers' NFC South Victory
00:46:17
Bobbo
So week 16, I don't know who you picked this week. It's Bucks going to Carolina. So whoever you chose in that is who I'm assuming you have winning the division. um the team
00:46:26
Mackenzie Forgacs
They actually play each other twice in the last three weeks. So it's a pretty – the last three weeks are really big for the NFC South. They play other 16 and 18, 18. They wild them out.
00:46:38
Bobbo
That's crazy. Just like the Bears and Packers play each other two out of three. The script writers are wilding out. This weekend,
00:46:44
Mackenzie Forgacs
wow them out
00:46:45
Bobbo
They're wild and out big time. um I got the Bucs going into Carolina, winning that game. Then next week, I've got the Bucs going into Miami, winning that game.
00:46:57
Bobbo
And then last week, I have the Bucs finishing off with the knockout blow, beating them two out of three weeks.
00:47:03
Mackenzie Forgacs
Yeah.
00:47:04
Bobbo
I've got Baker. just I think they're the better team. that your Your home state team right now is fun. And they beat the Packers. They beat the Rams. They've had some fun wins. I think Baker, Mike Evans, and co. are a little bit better. I think they're going to figure the F out.
00:47:20
Bobbo
Win two out of three. I've got Tampa Bay as your NFC South champion. As the NFC four seed. Finishing three and 10-7. and ten and seven
00:47:30
Mackenzie Forgacs
Okay, I like it. I also have Tampa Bay for the four seed. I do think they're going to lose one out of the two matchups against the Panthers. I'm just assuming in Carolina, Carolina will win.
00:47:42
Mackenzie Forgacs
In Tampa Bay, Tampa Bay will win. Either way, even if they win two out of the last three and lose once to the Panthers, they will still make the playoffs as the fourth seed.
00:47:52
Mackenzie Forgacs
So jingle, jingle, jingle once again.
00:47:55
Bobbo
Jingle, jingle, jingle. And you know what? Panthers, hey, you got you you control your destiny. Beat the Bucs twice, you're in the playoffs. Go do it.
00:48:01
Mackenzie Forgacs
I know it's pretty incredible. Honestly, they could do it.
00:48:04
Bobbo
Wild.
00:48:05
Mackenzie Forgacs
and Yeah.
00:48:05
Bobbo
They can do it.
00:48:06
Mackenzie Forgacs
After what they've been through to them now be able to say they are going to be in the playoff, potentially in the playoff, like conversation is insane.
00:48:15
Bobbo
That is crazy. And before we go on, we'll again. We have three seeds. Can we both agree? Because I know we've got like no time. Are we both? We both have the Rams at one, I'm assuming.
00:48:25
Mackenzie Forgacs
We do both have the Rams at one and I'm guessing we both have the Eagles at three.
00:48:30
Bobbo
Correct. So should we just talk about our two seed? Because I know we both want to talk on that for like a minute.
00:48:35
Mackenzie Forgacs
Sure. Yeah, that sounds like plan.
00:48:37
Bobbo
So just update everyone. 11 and six Eagles. Is that what you have?
00:48:42
Mackenzie Forgacs
I have the 10 and, oh wait, sorry. Yeah, I have the 10 and 7 Eagles winning the third seed, and I have the 14 and 3 Rams winning the onesie.
00:48:47
Bobbo
Okay. Okay.
00:48:52
Bobbo
jngle Jingle, jingle, jingle. Rams. One seed as well. I've got 11-6 Eagles, but it sounds like they can win or they can lose and um another game. 10-7 would still be good enough. So that seems pretty cemented.
00:49:02
Mackenzie Forgacs
Yep.
00:49:04
Bobbo
Mac, tell me who you're doing.
00:49:04
Mackenzie Forgacs
And if they, i will say real quick, if they lose, if the Eagles win, lose one of those games, it helps either one of our boys out if we do end up wanting that second seed. So
00:49:16
Bobbo
Okay. Well, that's, that's very good to know. And speaking that second seed, I have a feeling I know who you're going to for. And I feel i have a feeling I'm to be really upset about it. So tell us about your two seed, man.
00:49:23
Mackenzie Forgacs
I have a feeling I know who you're to go for, and I already am upset about this. But yes, my second seed, believe it or not, a few weeks ago after the playoffs, not after the playoffs, after Thanksgiving, I'm not going to lie, I was pretty down and out.
00:49:28
Bobbo
Well,
00:49:39
Mackenzie Forgacs
It felt like there was not a lot of hope on the wall. It felt like my team was fully out of the playoff conversation at that point. There was a lot of talk that there was just no way at that after losing to the Packers that we were going to somehow bounce back.
00:49:57
Mackenzie Forgacs
But you know what? Not only can we get in the playoffs, but we can also still win the NFC North. You heard it here first, folks.
00:50:07
Mackenzie Forgacs
I didn't believe it. I honestly did it. I started playing with the playoff machine. Love this playoff machine.
00:50:12
Bobbo
I don't believe it.
00:50:13
Mackenzie Forgacs
It's possible. And here's all that we need to happen. We need to win this weekend against the Steelers. We could do that. We need the Bears to beat the Packers.
00:50:23
Mackenzie Forgacs
You can do that. Wow, Mac, you're being so nice, even though he kicked your boys in the playoffs.
00:50:27
Bobbo
Nice.
00:50:28
Mackenzie Forgacs
I know. I'm a good friend. That's what I try to do.
00:50:30
Bobbo
That was nice. It was nice.
00:50:31
Mackenzie Forgacs
Week 17, we play the Vikings. We can beat them. We already, well, we lost them once. We're not gonna let it happen again because that was J.J. McCarthy came out of nowhere, and we didn't have a lot of tape on him. But now he's toast to us.
00:50:47
Mackenzie Forgacs
We will win. What we also need to happen is the Ravens to beat the Packers and I'm sorry, the 49ers to beat the Bears. I think both of those things are very realistic.
00:51:00
Mackenzie Forgacs
Week 18, we play against the Bears and you know what? I think we're going to win. If it comes down to week 18, we're in or we're out.
00:51:11
Mackenzie Forgacs
We are up against Ben Johnson. We look across the field and we see that traitorous man.
00:51:18
Bobbo
Hey.
00:51:18
Mackenzie Forgacs
Standing over there, left us four dead. And you know what I think is gonna happen? I think Dan Campbell is going to turn on the heat. I think Jared Goff is going to want to make his former coach pay. Aiden Hutchinson is going to want to feast on Caleb Williams. And I think we're going to win. And I think we're going to win the two seed. And don't worry.
00:51:44
Mackenzie Forgacs
The Bears will still make the playoffs as the seven seed. And so it's a win-win situation. We'll see you in the first round of the wild card. We'll host you there in Detroit.
00:51:56
Mackenzie Forgacs
that
00:51:58
Bobbo
Wow.
00:51:58
Mackenzie Forgacs
Yeah, it
00:52:01
Bobbo
That was quite the
Bears vs. Lions Playoff Rivalry
00:52:02
Bobbo
bedtime story. ah as a fifth grade as As a fifth grade teacher, the 10-year-olds and 11-year-olds in my class would love dreaming happy thoughts and thinking, oh, kumbaya and anything is possible.
00:52:03
Mackenzie Forgacs
was pretty good.
00:52:10
Mackenzie Forgacs
yeah
00:52:14
Bobbo
Hey, I tell my kids all the time, anything is possible.
00:52:17
Mackenzie Forgacs
Anything is possible.
00:52:17
Bobbo
Mac?
00:52:18
Mackenzie Forgacs
And you know what?
00:52:19
Bobbo
Yeah.
00:52:19
Mackenzie Forgacs
I'm drinking the Kool-Aid, baby.
00:52:22
Bobbo
Anything is possible. And if, you know, if the the playoff calculator says it's possible, it is, let me tell you, this ain't possible. And I'm going to tell you exactly why in pretty quick form. I'm going to try my best.
00:52:37
Bobbo
So, folks, for those of you listening, I see there's some viewers, it looks like, in Greenland, a couple out in the Sahara Desert. There's some that probably don't really know much about football. So right now, folks, we've got two teams, Team A and Team B. You don't know who either team is. Team A is currently 10-4.
00:52:54
Bobbo
Pretty good. Team A is currently the number two seed right this second. but We're talking about the two seed. ah the Team A seems pretty good. Okay. 10-4, the current two seed, and they have three games left, two at home.
00:53:11
Bobbo
Wow. Could they be the one seed? They probably could end up the one seed. Cool. Okay. Team B, currently eight and six What the heck? ah Do they even have a chance to make the playoffs? That's slim.
00:53:22
Bobbo
Team b is coming off three out of four losses. Oh my God. They're reeling a little bit. Team B has three games left.
00:53:33
Bobbo
Two on the road. Team B's got no room for error. Team A... did did it did do could lose a couple of games. I know you're you're kind of lost probably here, everybody. Mac, don't know if you're with me. Team A is the Bears.
00:53:47
Bobbo
Team B is the Lions. I'm going...
00:53:49
Mackenzie Forgacs
Oh, I didn't realize.
00:53:51
Bobbo
ah I wish I could see your face right here. im go I'm going with team A. I'm trusting Ben Johnson. We were 0-2. We're now 10-4. We're 10-2 in our last 12 games. we have the wholes You should be in Chicago right now, Mac.
00:54:09
Bobbo
It's blue and orange everywhere you look. It's like Bears fever. I wore this jersey to school today. It was like Bears day at school today. It was like electric. We love Caleb. We love Ben. This team believes that they're good. I believe that they're good. We're going to go and beat the Packers at home this week.
00:54:27
Bobbo
We are going to lose to the Niners. I agree. Hand up. I'm not delusional. Week 18, Mac. I'm going to feel so bad. I'm going to say, Mac, I love you no matter what happens.
00:54:39
Bobbo
Just please love me no matter what happens. And I'm going to be really nice. I'm going good game, but the Bears going win that game and we're going to march into the playoffs, gallop, if you will, as the two seed. And um I hope you cheer for my boys in the playoffs.
00:54:54
Mackenzie Forgacs
Okay, well, we see where your heart lies and there's really nothing but else to be said.
00:55:03
Bobbo
If there was a way for us both to get in, I would want it.
00:55:05
Mackenzie Forgacs
There is a way. I just explained the way.
00:55:09
Bobbo
And if the Vikings beat the Packers, you're in. I'll say, come on to Chicago. We'll host you. See a week one of the playoffs.
00:55:15
Mackenzie Forgacs
but what's more realistic, that we win or that the Vikings beat the Packers?
00:55:21
Bobbo
Hey, you know what, Mac? If you come into Chicago week 18 and you beat us, I will go like this. I will shake your hand and I'll say, you earned it. But me sitting here nice and cozy right now in my apartment with my Christmas tree behind me over my shoulder,
00:55:33
Bobbo
I got to say that my boys are going to win. I can't put that out into into the, to the ether that I think my boys are going to lose to your boys at home.
00:55:40
Mackenzie Forgacs
all right that's fair all
00:55:43
Bobbo
So I know you're a little sour with me and I know you got to go, but before we go, and I hope this isn't a really sour one. I really hope it's not a sour one. You got, you got to leave us with an outro. You got to leave us with an ad. I'm sorry.
00:55:54
Mackenzie Forgacs
right um merry christmas everybody it is christmas
00:56:00
Bobbo
Oh, that's not an ad. No, who's sponsoring it
00:56:07
Bobbo
Oh, where can you buy Christmas? How much does it cost? Are there any deals?
00:56:11
Mackenzie Forgacs
I'm just kidding. I get it. i would be probably picking them as well. But would I be?
00:56:16
Bobbo
got
00:56:18
Mackenzie Forgacs
Maybe. Maybe not. if it was If it was for us to both be in the playoffs, I'd maybe concede one for you. But we'll see what happens. Neither of us have a crystal ball.
00:56:29
Bobbo
one right here. i Bears are gonna win.
00:56:32
Mackenzie Forgacs
What?
00:56:34
Bobbo
I got one right here. And there's one. Yeah.
00:56:37
Mackenzie Forgacs
Oh, you do have a crystal ball.
00:56:38
Bobbo
yeah I'm looking right here. Crystal ball right here. Let me look at it.
00:56:40
Mackenzie Forgacs
Oh, Bears win. Oh, man. All right. Well, best of luck to you in the playoffs then.
00:56:46
Bobbo
I, that makes me feel really bad.
00:56:49
Mackenzie Forgacs
Does it though?
00:56:51
Bobbo
you in the playoffs. We'll both be there.
00:56:53
Mackenzie Forgacs
Okay. Thank you. See you in the playoffs. Okay.
00:56:55
Bobbo
Yeah. Well, we'll,
00:56:55
Mackenzie Forgacs
You know what? If we win, if if we lose and then the Vikings win and we're the seventh seed and we come to Chicago for that first wild card game, I am not holding back one bit, my friend.
00:57:10
Bobbo
Please, hey, I wouldn't expect you to, and I hope you wouldn't expect me to because us, with how long we've been doing this and how long you' bad your your boys were bad and how long my boys have been bad, and now that we're both good with the chance to play each other in the first round, yeah, that we i pretty wild.
00:57:23
Mackenzie Forgacs
That is pretty crazy. It probably would not be good for our friendship, but that is pretty crazy.
00:57:28
Bobbo
we we We would get through. we you you know we're we're We're in it at this point. we we we We've been through thick and thin, so at this point, a football game,
00:57:35
Mackenzie Forgacs
We've really only actually ever had it where one of our teams is not that good and one of our teams is sort of good. So this will be interesting.
00:57:44
Bobbo
This will be interesting, and the script is starting to look like Week 18 is going to mean a whole hell of a lot.
00:57:49
Mackenzie Forgacs
I think Week 18 is going to meet a whole hell of a lot. So Bob? Best of luck to you. I'm shaking my hand.
00:57:55
Bobbo
I can't see you.
00:57:55
Mackenzie Forgacs
shaking your hand
00:57:56
Bobbo
Yep, shaking your hand. And, Mac, can you get us out of here with a Christmas ad, and then you can go spend some time with your with your wonderful brother, Mitchell?
00:57:58
Mackenzie Forgacs
Yep.
00:58:02
Mackenzie Forgacs
All right. I'm going to out of here with the Christmas ad. This NFL week, what week is it? Week 16 Christmas chaos episode is brought to you by
00:58:11
Bobbo
Six
00:58:19
Mackenzie Forgacs
something Christmassy.
00:58:23
Mackenzie Forgacs
Scotch tape!
00:58:30
Mackenzie Forgacs
Scotch tape, scotch tape, wrap up your gifts, wrap up your gifts. Use a little Scotch tape for your gifts and your wrapping.
00:58:41
Mackenzie Forgacs
oh a do two don don't do do sco ah hush tape sco hush tap Scotch tape, tape.
00:58:54
Mackenzie Forgacs
Two pack for only $4.99 your local CVS. Bing. Yes.
00:59:00
Bobbo
Is it done? That
00:59:01
Mackenzie Forgacs
b yes
00:59:06
Bobbo
was actually hilarious. That was actually hilarious. was like, that's perfect. Then we go to another, like, bing, fog.
00:59:13
Mackenzie Forgacs
um
00:59:17
Bobbo
That was actually hilarious. Mac, very good. i I was like, how the hell is Scotch tape Christmasy?
00:59:20
Mackenzie Forgacs
Thank you.
00:59:22
Bobbo
But you proved me wrong.
00:59:23
Mackenzie Forgacs
but just was thinking, you know, like wrapping presents and stuff.
00:59:26
Bobbo
That was really, really good, Mac. That is Christmasy.
00:59:28
Mackenzie Forgacs
I don't know why I chose one that had required me to go so high-pitched.
00:59:33
Bobbo
Yeah, I mean, that's maybe not in your bag of tricks.
00:59:35
Mackenzie Forgacs
It was a choice. It was a choice.
00:59:36
Bobbo
Maybe that's not in your bag of tricks vocally, but hey, you you really got up there and I'm proud of you.
00:59:41
Mackenzie Forgacs
Yeah, thank you, thank you.
00:59:42
Bobbo
So I love that. Shout out. I almost said scout out. Shout out Scotch Tape.
00:59:47
Mackenzie Forgacs
Scouch out! Scotch tape!
00:59:50
Bobbo
Very nice. I like that. Shout out Cole Squared whatever it was and Scotch Tape, a real company. Thanks for sponsoring.
00:59:57
Mackenzie Forgacs
Coal stones! Coal rocks, Coal rocks, Coal rocks.
00:59:59
Bobbo
Cole Squared. but rocks Yeah, shout out both of you. um And all jokes aside, um happy holidays to everyone who who's listening.
01:00:09
Bobbo
um Happy holidays to my best friend and your wonderful wife and all of your family.
01:00:13
Mackenzie Forgacs
Absolutely.
01:00:16
Bobbo
And yeah, I hope everyone is safe and spends time with family and Mac. um Hope you have an awesome Christmas with ah Nicole, and I hope we can enjoy this time between now and week 18 when and we still love each other and we can still you know have have this together.
01:00:32
Bobbo
So I'm very very thankful for you.
01:00:33
Mackenzie Forgacs
Absolutely. We'll cheer for our teams. We'll cheer for each other up until that point then, it sounds like.
01:00:40
Bobbo
I like that. That sounds like a great Christmas plan to me.
01:00:42
Mackenzie Forgacs
All right. Sounds good, Bob. And yes, happy holidays, everybody, to you and whoever you've got under the mistletoe. We'll see you in the new year. Peace.
01:00:52
Bobbo
Hey, we'll see you next year. Peace.
01:01:06
Mackenzie Forgacs
Go Lions.
01:01:07
Bobbo
Go Bears.