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This week Chris had jury duty and attended AEW's Grand Slam with his daughter.
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Hosts' Roles and Dynamics
00:00:34
Speaker
Hey everybody, welcome to another episode of Predetermined at Pro Wrestling. Hang out, Garrett Callender and Chris Megs here. We're gonna chat wrestling like every week. I changed the, I don't say I'm the host anymore. It feels weird. I'll be honest, I've felt weird about it for about 150 episodes. And I just know the truth. I mean, I'm not hosting anything other than I do invite you to this chat that we're currently sitting in.
00:01:03
Speaker
Right, you're the, yeah, I don't know, Garret. You're the leader, it counts. I mean, you're the host. I'm a co-host or I'm maybe Fax and I are just the Ed McMahon to your Johnny Carson. I guess we can both be Ed McMahon. I think Fax is more Ed McMahon and I'm Doc Severinson with an orchestra. I will say behind the scenes here, we,
00:01:32
Speaker
This is not a terribly late time, but we had to put off recording because we both had to get our children to bed. Just both of us just dadding alone tonight. Just, yeah, just two proud poppas putting babies to sleep and then sneaking down to the basement to be trolls and joke about this and shit.
Chris's Jury Duty Tales
00:01:55
Speaker
Although I will say at this time last night, I was, I think, literally just putting
00:02:00
Speaker
my daughter in a cab after Grand Slam. Alone, so that you could go to the bar? Of course, yes. She got home, I found her in bed, I guess. You're like, I paid the cabbie 20 bucks to tuck her in and not be weird. So before we get into Grand Slam,
00:02:25
Speaker
I was very fascinated. I love that you told me this. You said you had jury duty today. That's right. I had to go to jury duty. And so a couple of things about that. First, so I. It's a couple of hours and I was selected to be in a jury room and I haven't gotten called yet to talk to the lawyers, but I don't know how I'm going to feel because one of the lawyers. So
00:02:56
Speaker
Like you could, on the one hand, you could say he kind of looks like JD Drake, but on the other more accurate hand, you could say that he really looks like what would happen if Shane Douglas and Conrad Thompson fucked.
00:03:17
Speaker
Just a bottle of cum? What is that? No, it's just like, it's kind of Shane's face. More of that rotundy Conrad kind of vibe. It's very interesting. It's all like, and that's, you know, it's kind of nice thing about jury duty because I don't generally spend a lot of days like not thinking.
00:03:38
Speaker
And, you know, I could check my phone, but there was only so much I could do. And so I just I got to sit there and like ponder and think about what this man's face reminded me of. So we'll see. That was that was OK. I also, by the way, just also wrestling related on while I was waiting and on my lunch break.
00:04:05
Speaker
which I spent in a Popeyes. I was reading Sabu's autobiography. Did you have that in the room? I mean, obviously you did, you didn't leave that at Popeyes when you were done. No, of course not. Okay, so they're going through the room selecting people. You're a classy guy. You seem like a man who owns a suit.
00:04:30
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, I didn't wear a suit to, I mean, I just wore a polo shirt, but it's random. It starts random. So jury selection, it starts, they got like 30 people in a room. They only need six jurors for civil court, apparently. You'd think I would know that as a lawyer, but I remember that. But they call six people up and they start asking them questions to decide if they're gonna keep them or not, basically. I haven't gotten chosen yet. I did put on my juror
00:05:00
Speaker
a certification thing that I like professional wrestling. They asked for my hobbies and interests. So I listed podcasting and professional wrestling. So we'll see what that does. I was hoping that you like showed up in one of your weirder wrestling shirts because you're like, I want to not get chosen. So I wore a shirt of like bloody Candice LeRae or Jimmy Lloyd doing anything. Or I just wore a scissor me hat.
00:05:31
Speaker
You've got the phone finger on just scissoring yourself.
00:05:36
Speaker
Pick me, guys. Pick me. Yeah, no, I didn't read Sabu's book in the jury room. I did read it in the waiting room, though. I don't know if anyone... I was reading a book with just a scarred man on the cover, so I don't know what people were thinking about that. Were you just making sounds and muttering to yourself as well? I picture you just trying your hardest to get out of this.
00:06:03
Speaker
I, you know, I try to be respectful of it that I, I recognize that like someone has to do this. And if they pick me at some point, I guess, I guess I will have to do this. Um, I don't really want to, um, because I have other things to do and work and stuff, but it is what it is at some point, you know, we got to figure this out. Um, so we'll see. Sabu's book good, by the way, I'm about
Sabu's Autobiography Story
00:06:26
Speaker
a hundred pages in. Um, my favorite story so far is that, so,
00:06:31
Speaker
I think everyone knows Sabu's uncle was the original chic and Sabu was like in his late teens when he was bugging his uncle to start training him to wrestle. And his uncle said, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm not going to do it. And then Sabu is at like a cookout and these guys come and like things get crazy and Sabu gets like shot in the face.
00:06:58
Speaker
He tells a very lengthy story about just getting shot basically up through the bottom. All of his teeth were destroyed. And at the end of that, he's recovering in the hospital. And he's like, well, if I can do this, I guess my uncle has to respect me. And he finally calls his uncle and is like, will you train me to wrestle? And his uncle says yes now.
00:07:25
Speaker
I did, it did strike me that on the one hand, this would prove to anyone that you're tough for sure. Although on the other hand, it did also make me think that after the getting shot incident, Sabu's mom was probably basically just like, Hey brother, can you like, you live kind of out in the country. Can you like just get my son out of fucking Detroit for six months? So he doesn't get shot again.
00:07:54
Speaker
Jesus Christ. And that led him to him being this? My God. She's like, can you be nice to the kid for a minute? Like he really wants you to like him and he got shot in the face. Like this is, could you do me a favor as your flesh and blood, treat him like Stu Hart would treat anyone in the dungeon if you need to, but
00:08:24
Speaker
Well, it sounded even weirder. He made him like, the chic made him basically like chop wood for six months before he'd train him. I hate that. That is like a real training montage from like a Rocky movie where it's like, you've got to go do some dumb shit. And like, if you ask Brian knobs how much wood he had to chop to get to where he was, the answer is zero wood.
00:08:53
Speaker
That's probably true. That's probably true. God damn it. That sucks, though. I did not know he got shot in the face. That's awful. Yeah, it does put like perspective on people are like, man, Sabu was a risk taker. It really felt like he didn't care what happened to his body. And you go, well, I think once you get shot in the face, like landing hard just doesn't seem nearly as problematic.
00:09:20
Speaker
It just doesn't hit the same. That bicep being torn off, nothing. Have you ever missed all your teeth from getting shot under the chin? No. Good God. I don't even know where to go from there. I guess if we have to keep it in the world of the hardcore, our good pal, Hardway Heater,
00:09:46
Speaker
It was announced that, uh, Hammond, his, his little guy, Sean Campbell, the first two entrants and Matt Tremont's, uh, deathmatch tournament coming up at H2O next month.
Wrestling Event Considerations
00:09:57
Speaker
Yeah. That's exciting. I'm excited to see that. Um, I was thinking about going and then I looked up where three months H2O center is relative to New York and it's in New Jersey, but it's like South of Philly. And it's like, I'm.
00:10:11
Speaker
There's no, and basically I was also like, well, how do I get there via public transportation? And, uh, the suggested route from Google maps was five hours long. Like you said, the suggested route from Google maps was hitchhike. Just throw a hand up. It'll be fine. Um, yeah.
00:10:33
Speaker
It's like, have you ever hopped a box car? Uh, cause there's a, there's a real, real easy route. There's a couple layovers and you do have to share a car with some unsavory characters, but you'll learn songs you haven't heard before. Oh, come on, Garrett. We've all listened to a couple of Mumford and Sons albums. We've heard this songs.
00:11:00
Speaker
We're white guys who like indie music and are the age we are. By the way, speaking of weird things that could be dangerous for me, like boxcars. So my favorite, my wife and I's favorite deli is closing down. Yeah, it was kind of a bummer. Always, you know, the New York delis, they always have that like important relationship to them. Like when my wife lived
00:11:26
Speaker
close to where we live now, when we started dating, like this was the place we would go like late at night, you know, we were coming back from something where I was just kind of at that deli. And even now it's like, it's like, if I had to go get ice cream or something, I'm always going to that deli and I don't know, I'm going to miss it. And so they've been having a 50% off sale on everything this week. So I bought some ice cream. Um, I bought some prime energy. I bought the last two prime energies. Um, I had orange mango. It was pretty solid. It does say pretty solid.
00:11:54
Speaker
Enough caffeine to kill a middle schooler. Exactly, exactly. And delicious too. Nowadays, that's what it would be. It's like, come on, Uncle Sandman. Little Garrett drank a prime energy. He got brought in with that bad crowd and Logan Paul tricked him into drinking his poison juice. Can you please train him to be a wrestler?
00:12:26
Speaker
All right, here's what we're gonna do. You take, you got that prime stuff? Have a beer. That'll slow you down. I'll even you out.
00:12:35
Speaker
You gotta go to Upas and Downas. Remember that the St. Louis show and Sandman just fell asleep in the corner or something? Think what life would be like for him if he was just drinking prime energy rather than Bud Lights or Miller High Life or whatever the fuck he drinks. How do you know he's not? Maybe that's him with an energy drink.
00:13:01
Speaker
Just like a little kid after too much candy. Just had a hard crash, napped in the corner of Pops and Sashay. I mean, I think there's worse places Sandman's fallen asleep. Oh, absolutely.
00:13:18
Speaker
Probably in a match with Sabu. You might actually be in that box car with him on the way to H2O. But so I went in tonight and they were really starting to run low on stuff. And so as a result, when you're, you know, there's things that your eye passes by when you're just looking at a full beverage rack that when it's, you know, there's not much there, you just notice them.
00:13:44
Speaker
And I picked up something half off. Don't know how much it was originally. It doesn't really matter. Something called pirate water. It's margarita flavored. It's a malt beverage with natural and artificial flavors. Certified color and FD&C yellow number five. It's 10% alcohol. It appears to be somehow related to bar stool sports, so that's cool.
00:14:12
Speaker
And, uh, I'm going to open this up because I'm curious legitimately, the owner of the store looked at me like, I don't usually just buy like two cartons of ice cream. Like what, what's your problem? What's going on here? Why are you doing this to yourself? He's like, you know, that's going to give you a tummy ache. You're 40. So we're going to see.
00:14:38
Speaker
Oh, this smells bad. Is that a tall boy? Like what size can am I looking at? It's a it's a pint. It's a pint can. That is too much of whatever you're about to drink. Let's OK. The can is green. It's got a skull and crossbones. Oh, dear. It's oh. It's like.
00:15:04
Speaker
Imagine if a margarita were initially smooth, but on the end, just so painful. Oh, um, well then nothing like Terra Mana. No, no, with Terra Mana tequila, your margaritas are, uh, are going to be great ones. Um, Terra Mana. Speaking of that motherfucker, are you going to finish that drink by the way? I'm going to take at least two more sips. There's no way I'm finishing this.
00:15:33
Speaker
Finish it, you got jury duty in the morning. It's like juror number seven, you smell like pirate water. I just have to stop smelling it, that's the problem. Every time I smell it, I just... Every time Chris takes a drink, he looks like a little kid going off the diving board. He's plugging his nose, he's...
00:16:03
Speaker
Like you look like you're drinking something just putrid. It's so bad. Um, the second sip was slightly better than the first one, but I think it's because I, I've like you develop a tolerance, I guess, slowly to the pain. Like, yeah, they call it acquired taste. So you, by the end of that can, you're going to be ready for two more.
00:16:25
Speaker
Oh yeah, we'll see. Man, I remember when I first moved out to LA, my friends and I, when it was True Blood Nights, we would buy these shitty margarita mix buckets where you basically just pour a bottle of tequila in this thing and stick it in the freezer and have the shittiest margarita you've ever had. And I feel like I had a better experience with those plastic buckets than you did with that little sip there.
00:16:55
Speaker
Yeah, this is horrible. Zero stars. This is Barstool Sports. You are the opposite of Logan Paul. They seem like they'd have so much in common. And one sip, everybody knows the rules. But yeah, yeah, I did. Sorry.
00:17:19
Speaker
No, I was going to say because we had mentioned Terra Mana, The Rock had some news come out this week that I thought was very funny that you and I hadn't talked about, which is he basically said, I was supposed to be the main event against Roman Reigns and I backed out for whatever reason. So it ended up being whatever it ended up being, which is Cody, Cody Rhodes. And he's like, I don't know who knows. Maybe I'm the main event this year, which means
00:17:46
Speaker
he kind of shit on what the main event became, and then also is going to steal Cody's spot again. So on the one hand, you know, you feel a little bad for Cody. On the other hand, Rock vs. Reigns would definitely be the night two match. And I really don't give a fuck, and I would probably just, if Cody was wrestling night one against, I don't know,
00:18:15
Speaker
CM Punk or something. I'm in for that. Or Logan Paul. Yeah, Cody against Logan Paul, right? Garrett, how excited would you and I be if we got to witness Cody versus Logan Paul and then get to just have some brunch and go home the next day?
The Rock vs. Cody Rhodes - Who's Spot?
00:18:32
Speaker
It feels so weird to say that I don't want to go see a rock match. And I don't know that I don't want to go see Rock versus Roman Reigns. Like, I mean, at that point, you're basically going to see an entrance.
00:18:46
Speaker
and then 12 minutes of two guys staring at each other in the middle of the ring. That's not gonna- I mean, at this point, like, I mean, it's not quite as bad, but I feel like this is WrestleMania 3 and The Rock is Andre the Giant. Like, The Rock is huge, he's physically, physically there's no way he can move at all like a wrestler anymore. He's far too big. This is gonna be less sad, but,
00:19:12
Speaker
I just don't think it's going to be that great. I mean, maybe I'll eat my words and I'll be like, wow, what an amazing match that was. But I mean, we all know it's going to be at least three stars lighter than Cody Logan Paul. That has potential to be match of the year if they book that. But here's the match of the year match of the decade.
00:19:32
Speaker
The thing is, I think that WWE doesn't think enough of Cody Rhodes to put him up against the top star like Logan Paul or WrestleMania. Ooh, fighting words, fighting words. I'm not the one fighting. He's the one getting bumped from spots. Yeah, but it's by the rock. Everyone gets bumped by the rock.
00:19:53
Speaker
It's true, it's kind of like, you know, Stone Cold shows up, you're not the main event anymore. Cody Rhodes would have to understand that, like it'd have to hurt and make this story last even goddamn longer, but whatever. Yeah, well, what would happen also though is as The Rock would tell Cody a story about meeting Dusty or something, and you can just imagine Cody seething while he listened to it.
00:20:21
Speaker
Uh-huh, yeah, that's deep insight you got from that one time you met my dad, Cody. Great. Tremendous. All right. So yeah, I guess we're still going to go to that, but let's just hope those stuff we want on night one. Yeah. They'll be tickets. They'll be tickets. They'll be fine. You know what there were tickets for? Grand Slam. Are you shitting me? Like, was it not super well attended?
00:20:50
Speaker
It was, I mean, it was well attended. I think they probably by the end had close to 10,000 people in there, which is never going to argue with that. But there were definitely seats available down to the very end. They never dropped the prices. Are you serious? Yeah, they really, I mean, they did some two for ones, but I think only on more, some more upper level tickets, but like the prices.
00:21:13
Speaker
on the ringside tickets, all the floor tickets, I should say, never got below 500. The prices on the first level, where we were sitting, were 250 a ticket.
AEW Grand Slam: Ticket Prices & Attendance Impact
00:21:24
Speaker
I should point out, these are prices with fees because New York is the only state that has the balls to force Ticketmaster to show you the fees before you purchase the ticket, so just cool. Is it really, that's the only state that does that? I'm pretty sure they're the only one, maybe some others have done it now. They were definitely the first.
00:21:43
Speaker
When I buy tickets now, it does like specify under this is price with fees. I don't get to see what the fees are for, but it shows me the full price. But before you click and say, I'm going to purchase the ticket. Correct. Yeah. The only thing that's left is like $4 handling fee or something, but it shows you basically the whole price now. Gotcha. So the Tennessee government's doing really well. With that. Yeah. Yeah. They haven't done anything.
00:22:09
Speaker
I mean, that's pretty good. So there has there, I miss it. Has there been anything on the other side for them recently? You mean, um, this was kind of exciting. So I guess the, uh, the mayor of Nashville, uh, since the 1800s has always been affiliated with the Vanderbilt family. And for the first time since then, uh, we finally voted in a mayor that isn't part of the Vanderbilt family.
00:22:37
Speaker
That seems like progress. Yeah, whether he'll do a good job is to be seen, but we fucking did it. Or they'll be murdered by the Vanderbilt's. Yeah, this is the first and last time. But yeah, so it was, I mean, look, it was full, but you could have walked in and gotten a ticket. You could have walked up that day, which was not true certainly
00:23:04
Speaker
With the exception of like the worst possible tickets in the stadium was not true the first time. They did this. Do you think it was the the card. The prices. I think it was the prices. The prices were really high. I definitely know people who were like this is too expensive. I don't actually don't want to pay this because.
00:23:23
Speaker
The thing about Ash is that it's actually right that they tiered the prices from like, I don't know about from 500 to 250 for like ringside to the first level, but it was 250. It was a hundred then for the next bowl level up, but that's a pretty big distance from the lower bowl because of these sweets. And then it was 30 bucks just to get in like 35, something like that. But those seats are so far, like you're perfectly fine view, but you're really, really vertical.
00:23:51
Speaker
Arthur Ashe is just very vertical. So like that last row is like on top of the ring, but like well, well above it, very, very vertically up. So, but yeah, I think if they even somewhat reduced the prices in that mid-level earlier and even a little bit in the first level, they would have sold a fair bit more tickets. But that's the thing. This is, this is the weird trade, right? Where like,
00:24:19
Speaker
if you sell enough tickets at more money, that works out, I guess. I don't know the exact math.
00:24:28
Speaker
And I didn't watch the entire show, but at no point did it not look full. I mean, they obviously shoot it to look very full. If they made more money, I didn't, I don't know. It didn't affect the way it looked on television. Yeah, I watched a little bit on, went back and watched a little bit on TV and too, and yeah, I'm saying, agreed. It looked like, didn't look like you saw, I was seeing empty seats, so.
00:24:54
Speaker
So I am curious about this. So I haven't, I know you've taken your daughter to a handful of wrestling shows at this point. Was this the biggest one she's been to? For sure. Yeah, even that that collision only like five or 6,000 people were there. So this is definitely by far in terms of crowd size and like like high level like main event matches. This is definitely the biggest.
00:25:20
Speaker
So my fear when Ozzy is old enough for me to take him to events like that, it's going to be like when my dad would take me to sporting events as a child. It was like clockwork before something cool was about to happen. I definitely had to go to the bathroom and he had to take me. Did you miss any big moments for bathroom breaks with your, with your child?
00:25:44
Speaker
Not this time, for whatever reason, the bathroom situation, like during collision, we got up a lot, uh, to just for whatever reason needed to be a whole bunch. Um, not so much this time we did. So during like five minutes into the main event, she looks at me and goes, dad, I'm really tired. Can we go home? And I looked at her and I was like, okay, here's what we're going to do.
00:26:12
Speaker
We're going to get out of our seats and we're going to go to the back of this level so that we can be the first ones out. But sweetheart, this is the main event for the world title. We're not going home yet. We got like 10 minutes left. And that's why you're a good dad. That's why I'm a good, I think I'm a good dad. Find the balance, right? You found the balance and you knew what was good for her. You knew that at some point in her life, she's going to be able to say she saw a world title match.
00:26:39
Speaker
And even afterwards, she said that was A, that was her favorite match of the night. And she was so excited that she got to see the man in the Mets gear win the match. She said it was the best match she'd ever seen. I reminded her that she'd seen some pretty good matches before, but she said this one was still the best. Which is interesting because earlier in the evening Moxley versus Phoenix was the best match she'd ever seen. So it was a pretty exciting night for her.
00:27:06
Speaker
Um, but yeah, and then she was, and she was, yeah, she was very excited that she, I think got to see that. I think it was the right call. And again, literally, as soon as like the bell rang, I was just like, go run taxi. So, uh, what else? I don't know what else grabbed her in the show. Like was, um, who, who were her guys? It sounds like she liked MJF. I'm assuming she liked Ray Phoenix. Um,
00:27:35
Speaker
Well, let's go back to the, so they taped, again, we didn't say for any of Rampage, but they did tape a couple of the Rampage matches first. There was the Santana squash, but we were getting pizza during that. And then it was the Orange Cassidy Hook, Chris Statlander against 2.0 match, 2.0 with Anna J. And so she likes Orange and she likes Hook, so I think that was a little bit like a solid beginning.
00:28:05
Speaker
Then again, I don't know if she loves Eddie Kingston exactly, but I think she loved chanting for Eddie Kingston with 10,000 other rabid New Yorkers. She had a good time chanting Eddie, Eddie. Eddie Kingston also to like, at least to my five-year-old, I feel like Eddie Kingston is a great character to explain.
00:28:30
Speaker
Right? Because you're like, look, Eddie is someone who has big feelings, right? Sometimes he's angry and sometimes he's sad and he always expresses them. Now, sometimes that's good for Eddie and sometimes that's bad, but he's got, he lets his feelings out. You know, look, he's, he really doesn't like that other man for, for a very, very long time. That's why he's trying to hurt him right now. Um, but also when he wins this match, he is going to cry in front of us.
00:29:00
Speaker
You know, so it's a very, Eddie Kingston's like a very, like a perfect, like you could imagine Eddie Kingston doing a segment with Elmo, I feel like, about feelings. Couldn't
Eddie Kingston's Relatability in Wrestling
00:29:11
Speaker
you? Absolutely. And haven't they done this yet? You know, Sesame Street's on HBO Max. So I think this is a natural crossover. I think we're closer to Orange Cassidy being on there with Elmo than Eddie, unfortunately.
00:29:28
Speaker
I, look, they don't, they don't air that live. They can bleep him. If he tells Elmo to fucking feel his feelings, I mean, like this is, you know, they could, they could just cut it. They could just cut that word. It'd be fine. Did you also be like, this man really into unions? Big union guy. We didn't discuss that. I did discuss. So.
00:29:58
Speaker
This is the only match I've watched back. And that's mostly because I realized midway through the show that we were like to the far left of the hard cam shot at points. And luckily for us, right next to a man that was wearing a Hawaiian shirt fedora combo, that makes him very easy to pick out of a crowd. Was he alone?
00:30:26
Speaker
He was with a friend. So he was not, I assume, he talked to this other person enough that it seemed like they were friends. Hawaiian shirt fedora guy talks to anyone who's next to him. We did talk to each other briefly, although I think I might have asked him, I think I asked him a question about whether, if they'd taped anything before we got there. So I was curious. And he seemed like someone who would volunteer information.
00:30:54
Speaker
and his response was, I don't know, I was at Margaritaville. Tonight was the, he couldn't miss the Jimmy Buffett Memorial at Margaritaville. Very sad, very sad. I will say though, I bet the margaritas at Margaritaville or Cheeseburger in Paradise are better than Pirate Water.
00:31:20
Speaker
I, as a person who has had one in the last two to three months, can vouch for it. I think it was called the Perfect Margarita. Was it perfect? I don't know, but it was pretty good in Pigeon Forge, Tennessee. If you're in Pigeon Forge, Tennessee, the Margaritaville is probably the best place to go eat. There's a whole Margaritaville resort there. Wow.
00:31:48
Speaker
I know, I was gonna stay there, but instead I chose a yurt. This seems like poor decision making, Garret. I feel like we don't talk about our personal lives enough on this show.
00:32:04
Speaker
So overall, I mean, good show, like the, I didn't, I only watched really the first half. I really liked that Moxley Phoenix match, other than like immediately it looked like Moxley was hurt from Phoenix flying off the stage.
00:32:21
Speaker
Yeah, well, I thought it was a great show. Yeah, Moxley and Phoenix I thought was fantastic. It was a super, super fun match. Yeah, really right up until that end there. I should also note, so if you are listening to this and you haven't been following the news, so again, Mox gets hurt. Someone actually at Later Woods was like, you know, why didn't they count the pin the first time? And it was like, because he wasn't supposed to win that match, buddy. You could tell when Justin Roberts went and knew
00:32:53
Speaker
Champion, Ray Phoenix. But my favorite thing, and again, this is why in my deep and abiding love of Jon Moxley.
Moxley's Match Mishap
00:33:01
Speaker
So match ends, Phoenix is celebrating, Mox is like laid out, he's like not moving, right? Doctors come, everyone's starting to get kind of nervous. You can see him kind of wiggling his hands, right? So, okay, so not like the not paralyzed sort of thing. And then he like sits up
00:33:21
Speaker
And you're like, okay, okay, sitting up, he's moving, that's good. And then they're sort of, they actually went to get, to take the ring rope down if they needed to. And he's like, no, no, no, I got it. And then as he's leaving the ring, you could see him getting visibly angry at himself. He's like, oh, goddamn, stupid brain getting stupid concussed. Literally, Mox was angry at himself because he wrecked the finish of a match that I'm sure he thought was good.
00:33:48
Speaker
And then- Honestly, he's still good the way it ended. It was still great. It's sad that it ended the way it did, but like- He just, he had, they probably had another minute. Moxley hadn't even bled yet, so maybe there was that. He didn't get to bleed yet. But literally, as he's getting angry at himself, you can see Renee, because we were right over by the side of the stage, you can see someone leading Renee out, like very concerned. Like Renee's like, is he okay? Is he okay? And Mox is already like walking around and mad about the finish.
00:34:16
Speaker
I love the two of them and their relationship is great. And I love Jon Moxley. I love his energy. Does he come on her podcast very often or ever? I don't think he has. He's done it like once or twice. I would love to have an interview about this where they both they discuss their respective feelings about the moment. Just a married life podcast between those two would be fascinating. They were on
00:34:45
Speaker
On Total Divas, they were pretty entertaining. Oh my god. Did you see that episode where I'm trying to remember exactly what happened?
00:34:57
Speaker
But I want to say that, like, a guy walking by, they're eating outside, like, the group of them, and a guy, like, leaned over this bush and, like, took Renee's hat. Or he did something to fuck with Renee. And Jon Moxley basically explodes through the bushes to go kick this guy's ass. And she's screaming, like, Jonathan! He's, like, chasing this guy.
00:35:22
Speaker
They're eating brunch and he is just like zero to murder a motherfucker in like three seconds. And I love that that got left in the show. I was like, whatever. I loved every episode, though, where they had to take like a beach vacation and mocks just had to wander around a resort. Just like I'm here. Yeah. They told me they pay me more if we do this. And Renee said we had to. So whatever.
00:35:51
Speaker
Anytime you get to speak- I'm sorry, which you so are you again? I don't remember, man, it's okay. Yeah, yep, our wives are just, ooh, yeah, they're here, they're angry at each other. We should help them talk it out or something, I don't know. That show, I genuinely loved that show. I thought it was really fun.
00:36:11
Speaker
seen heal John Cena. Have you ever wanted to see fucking heal John Cena? It was total divas. He was such a fucking- Can we get married, John? No. No. I just, it went bad once and it's just that I have a lot of money now and I don't trust anyone, so.
00:36:30
Speaker
Okay. Nicky Bella is such like a great person. You're just watching this very nice lady get treated not really like shit, but not super great by a guy who every time we see him at his house is playing Downton Abbey basically. Why isn't everyone in suits for dinner? He's like at dinner people wear suits and then after the men retire to my smoking lounge.
00:37:00
Speaker
Daniel Bryan's always at my house. Dragon is just like you're we're going to smoke. What I'm going to. Do you have is there like can I smoke hemp? I don't feel like or can you give me a kombucha? Like what's going on? I love that show. Speaking of that show, by the way, we should finish up Grand Slam. But speaking of that show, congratulations to my wife because fucked off Ziggler. They finally fired him.
00:37:30
Speaker
We finally got his comeuppance for being mean to my wife at a comedy show a decade ago, and I think we're all glad to see it.
00:37:41
Speaker
I'm not. I really like, didn't you think that Dolph Ziggler was a lifer there? Like I figured he would never not have a job in some capacity. Like would he be a trainer? Would he be booking shit? It seemed like there is a place for Dolph Ziggler in that company. And man, I just, I feel like that guy got fucked left and right in that company and never really seemed to complain about it.
00:38:07
Speaker
I mean, they stopped using him like three years ago and kept paying him. So, I mean, and again, very much a prick when he met my wife and she just wanted to talk to him for five minutes about Total Divas. What did he say again? He was very dismissive. He didn't say anything specific, but we were at, so my, uh, one of my old comedy directors and a performer, I was really good friends with, she used to write for WWE and, uh,
00:38:36
Speaker
you know, Dolph came, I think it was again, summer slam weekend or something. And Dolph came out to a show about that. And so he was like, this was right after he'd been told he was, he's like, a big fan. I just want to go. Oh, I should go. Like, just want to talk to him about this a little bit. I'm like, Oh, go for him. Say hi. And he just like, was just totally dismissive. Like, yeah, whatever. And it was like, dude, like it does not take that much effort to be, you know, polite and sort of nice enough. Um, like I need from catfish wasn't even that nice and he was nicer than that. So, um,
00:39:06
Speaker
You know, so it's a fuck Dolph Ziggler and he and his brother can be the the number one contenders to the ROH tag team titles in a week and a half. It'll be fine. Do we think that's probably where this is headed? I that's my guess. Maybe maybe they could just go with the impact tag team champions. I'd probably be better, right? Man, that means we could see Dolph Ziggler in a ladder match in a W. No, that'd be fun. Yeah, let's get him for one of those and then we'll send him to impact.
00:39:36
Speaker
My wife would always get so mad at Dolph Ziggler in a ladder match, because nobody sells how hard it is to climb a ladder more than Dolph Ziggler.
00:39:47
Speaker
I don't know, like I always had a really soft spot for the guy. Like there were some big moments in WWE while I was still watching that really sucked me in and like made me a fan and wanted to see him do well. And he was just a guy that every time he was on, it felt like we're doing something with him and we weren't doing something with him. We weren't doing something with him. I just fucking Steng Survivor Series. He took on five guys by his goddamn self,
00:40:15
Speaker
other than the last one, Sting put his lifeless body on top of Seth Rollins or something, but he pinned everyone else before then on his own.
00:40:30
Speaker
and they're gonna go kill themselves in Japan. It's gonna end in that forest that Logan Paul got in trouble. Speaking of, speaking of Spooky and Logan Paul, I'm gonna crack open the limited edition rare Glowberry Prime. It's very, it's bright green, which actually, I'll segue that to talking about the women's title match from last night, because my daughter just refers to the Outkast as the green team.
00:41:00
Speaker
Which makes sense. She was like, why is the green team fighting? I was like, well, uh, they used to be friends, but Tony storm wants the belt too. And also she's a starlet now and it's amazing. So I don't know how to explain gimmick changes to you, sweetheart, but, um, this is pretty great.
00:41:19
Speaker
I've loved, actually, I just loved the shoe bit. There's a shoe bit at the beginning that is spectacular. A plus from Tony Storm for use of shoes. Different shoe bit than last week, like the... Oh, it's a, yes, it's a, yes. It's a fantastic use of footwear. So is it Ann Stiller and new? It's an Ann Stiller on that one. Okay. Good match. Good, so very good. I mean, again, Saraya,
00:41:50
Speaker
You know, it's a post comeback Saraya match, but I think by that standard, it's pretty good. Is Saraya able to take Tony Storm's ass? That seems like a move that's... So she avoided the ass. That seems like a move that'd be very dangerous for somebody with that issue, the neck issue. Fair enough, fair enough. Daniel Bryan's not allowed to take it either.
00:42:17
Speaker
That's actually, that's actually just something Brie said.
Prime Drinks Review
00:42:23
Speaker
That's actually, that has nothing to do with the injury. That's just, she gets a little jealous sometimes. They will tell on her too. How's Glowberry? So Glowberry, I think it is good. What is Glowberry? What does it taste like? I don't think I taste any berries.
00:42:45
Speaker
Like, it almost tastes like maybe coconut and pineapple. I mean, I know they're all coconut water. I think the most disturbing thing is the color of it. The color of it is the color of something before it glows in the dark. And I hope to God there isn't a chemical in this that actually makes it glow. Because I don't want to be in jest in that. This is actually just- Turn out the lights, Garrett.
00:43:12
Speaker
I can't, you don't need to turn the lights on to go to the bathroom with this at night. That could be an upside. That could be a smart, that could be like a frat boy upside. It's like, yeah, yeah. After I drink a lot of beer, I drink a glow berry for hydration. And because that way I can see where my piss is going in the dark. You ever wanted to make your wiener a nightlight?
00:43:40
Speaker
Uh, no, it is good. Like, like all of them, I will say this one, uh, less sweet. I feel like all of those, uh, those out there that have to cut this with water because they've got nerd baby, uh, nerd adult palates and don't have the hip taste of a 12 year old at recess, uh, will not need to cut this with water. Uh, it's good. I, no clue what it, the actual flavor is. Cause it doesn't say and everything. And it is just chemicals.
00:44:10
Speaker
Where does it rank for you? Does it rank up there? Middle. Middle. What's still your number one? Man, this is, I love our drink podcast. Drinks are a big, when you hit a certain age, drink beverages are a big deal. Alcoholic and non. Yeah, exactly.
00:44:36
Speaker
I mean, ice pop is still exciting because I feel like it's the hardest to find still. So I always get excited when I see a case of it around. Well, that's interesting because I feel like in New York it's not that hard or at least near me. It seems like the CVS frequently has the ice pop in.
00:44:51
Speaker
The only flavor I've never seen, so I guess it isn't the most rare. There's a white flavor called something moon, never had it. And what's funny, the thing my parents and I both have in common right now, like what we're able to talk about to find common ground on is I got them super into Prime and they will like text me pictures of what flavor they're drinking of Prime.
00:45:18
Speaker
What does that mean? They just tried it and they were like, this is delicious? Or were they into the Logan Paul verse in some other way as well? They are actually late stage YouTubers now. They're just, they're actually, your parents get 3000 hits for each video in which they review our podcast.
00:45:47
Speaker
They actually, they're going to get a prime sponsorship before we do, but respect to them. My 70 year old recently retired father's like, it is his new flat Bill Hatton's like, Hey, it's your boy, Brucey Bruce. I would, I would watch that. I would be, it'd be relaxing. Do you watch, there's,
00:46:11
Speaker
I've been watching this YouTube channel recently. I love YouTube for the things it provides us. There's a channel called Rose Anvil in which a guy, he just cuts shoes in half. Have you seen this? No. It's great. He reviews shoes, but he basically just cuts them in half so you can be like,
00:46:34
Speaker
You can see like, you know, like are the, you know, nicer shoes using nicer materials, things like that. But there's also just an ASMR aspect too, where he just, he just see him like sawing this shoe in half.
00:46:46
Speaker
I think YouTube is hilarious because like this shoe show that you're watching, any given episode probably has more viewers than the finale of Cheers. And you're just like, so when I bring this up, obviously Garrett has seen the guy who got shoes and have, but everybody lives in their own YouTube world and no one has seen the shit you're watching. So I do love though that like a hundred million other people are watching your shoe guy probably.
00:47:15
Speaker
Probably. And again, 10,000 other people are just watching your parents talk about us. Your mom's like, well, it's a thumbs up because this week they didn't talk about penis cocaine. Thumbs up on that alone for me.
00:47:39
Speaker
Yeah, she was never a fan of when I did stand up. She was my harshest critic. She saw a clip of it and said to me with full sincerity, I just don't know where I went wrong. And to this day, the most hurtful roast anyone has ever given me because it wasn't a joke.
00:48:10
Speaker
You're like, mom, did you have to say this right before my wedding? Supposed to give a nice thing to me right before this. My mom too, though. I love my mom, but she and I don't really have the same sense of humor. And she's gone to my comedy shows and she just sits there stone-faced. She's just like, I'm here to support, but I'm not gonna laugh.
00:48:38
Speaker
My dad and I have a very similar sense of humor. In fact, I'm planning to, on this fall, embark on a journey with my father in which we watch the Fast and the Furious movies. Oh my God. Can we podcast it? Once I start doing this, I'll certainly be talking about this with you, Garrett.
00:49:00
Speaker
Can we bring him on though? Can we have both of you on and we'll do like a side quest on predetermined and just cover all the Fast and Furious movies with you and your dad? Only if I can literally set my dad up in another room in my house with all the equipment and
00:49:20
Speaker
like tell him just not to touch anything because my dad and technology do not get along. My dad and funny action movies get along very well. That's right. He's the one who taught me that action movies are both fun and hilarious. So what was like, what's the first action movie you remember your dad taking you to or showing you?
00:49:43
Speaker
The first one I sort of remember going to with him was James Bond, License to Kill, pretty sure. We've watched a lot of Bond movies together. We've watched all of the Rocky movies a lot of times. My dad's the guy in the theater who is cheering as if he's actually at a boxing match.
00:50:09
Speaker
He's watching it. It's like he's watching a real boxing match and one in which it's not on just on a screen. Hit him, Rocky. Get him to the body. He's in the corner. He's in the corner.
00:50:24
Speaker
Speaking of Stallone, we actually have an Expendables 4 coming out this weekend, but the leads this time are Statham and Megan Fox. So really, this is a movie made for me and no one else. It's going to be making about zero dollars. And since all the main stars are gone, it's insane they didn't bring any old pro wrestlers. You know, that's a good point. You would think they would have dragged at least like Batista out or maybe Kevin Nash.
00:50:55
Speaker
Batista maybe is too good for that. Kevin Nash is not. We could've gotten all. We could've gotten Nash. Could've gotten Nash. Are there any UFC fighters in there? I think Kature, Randy Kature. Kature, there you go. Okay, so there you go. So you got the UFC guys. I feel like they sort of grew up. We've got, yeah. And Lesnar's never gonna be in a movie. That guy, he's not gonna do anything that requires him reading. Yeah, that's a good point. He doesn't like books.
00:51:25
Speaker
What if Brock Lesnar was just super into manga? And he's just like, I like how that you have to read it backwards. I should talk about the main event of Grand Slam was not really, really good. So they really leaned in on MGF's neck is fucked up. Samoa Joe just takes a lot of the match and it actually ends up being
00:51:55
Speaker
pretty dramatic for that reason, right? You've got the aspect of like, well, could Cole come out? He's been talking about protecting necks. So you've got the potential towel throw idea in there. You've got the fact that Joe is a plausible killer and MJF's neck is screwed up. You've got the fact that MJF came out in Mets gear, which is a good indication that someone's going to lose.
00:52:25
Speaker
Sorry. No, I'm, I'm just, it was actually very funny because I was like talking to Matty Matty. He's like, Oh man, he's wearing, he's like, look what he's wearing. He's like, yeah, he's wearing like Mets gear. Um, and, uh, it's, I'm like, Oh man, he's probably gonna lose too. Just like the Mets. This is,
00:52:45
Speaker
This isn't good. It's just like this isn't good for her fandom. There's also a couple of terrific comedy bits actually in the episode one that I won't spoil for you that you may have seen if you saw the first match, but the Adam Cole going to Roddy Strong's bedside. Yeah.
00:53:04
Speaker
which was fantastic. But then right before the main event, there's also a scene like an old Bret Hart clip where I saw it. Yeah. Oh, you saw. OK, you saw that where MJF is talking to a kid and he gives him the scarf and he's like, yeah, and he leans in and whisper something in his ear and he turns to his dad and goes, I didn't know I was adopted. That was that was perfect. That was so good. Tremendous. I thankfully, many didn't ask questions about the he's our scumbag chant.
00:53:35
Speaker
I was like, I'm just going to leave that one alone and just see if she has questions. I was surprised he let the little boy keep the scarf. Hmm. Yeah. It seemed like a real, like he was going to take it back kind of thing, but no. Nice move. It was. Nice move. He is a little bit of a baby face. Yeah. Well, that and the, the fuck you, Joe Chance. He also, Maddie also did not ask about it. Um,
00:53:57
Speaker
I thought the match was great. I think it ended up being a really, really fun match. And the way MJF sort of slips out of things is I think clever. There's a point where like you could argue if you're trying to like star rate it compared to other things, like the flip from MJF being kind of down and out to being able to kind of come back.
00:54:22
Speaker
a little fast kind of flipped, but on the whole, it's a really, really good main event. And I thought it was a really, uh, how long did they give it the show? It was just about 20 minutes. So that's a good TV main event for sure. Yeah. No, I think it was perfect. You know, I thought the whole show was really laid out. I mean, five matches, all bangers. Um, I think this was,
00:54:47
Speaker
I'd have to compare to the other Grandslams. I have to sort of walk through, but I thought this was another really, really excellent Grandslam.
Eddie Kingston's Grand Slam Victory
00:54:54
Speaker
It didn't have anything on the level of Kenny versus Danielson from the first one. I mean, that's kind of at a different level. That's kind of rematch level, yeah.
00:55:06
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, that match, they walked out and looked at each other and people were chanting, this is awesome because it, admittedly it was awesome just to see have the two of them looking at each other. This was, nothing had that on that level. This though, I don't think, I mean, actually the first one at the very end of the night, Eddie gets all these big chants because it's him and Moc, it was him and Moc's against Suzuki and Archer and that was a big moment and nice, but
00:55:33
Speaker
This time with Eddie winning the ROH title, that was, that was a moment. That was a real like, you know, everyone was cheering for Eddie and it was just, I don't know. It was, it was nice to see them do that switch in front of, in, in New York for Eddie. Like it's been a pretty, you look back, it's been a pretty good year for Eddie Kingston. Like he wins the new Japan strong title title in Corrigan.
00:56:00
Speaker
Someone pointed out, apparently in that conversation with Kawata, he promised Kawata he would use the powerbomb to be Claudio, and then he did it. Oh shit. I was trying to explain that to Maddie afterwards. I was like, so Eddie's got this hero who's this unsmiling Japanese man who makes ramen now. But he was a wrestler. He was a wrestler. And Eddie met him recently, and he said, I'm going to use this move. And then he did that.
00:56:28
Speaker
and did she react like my wife would have, which is like, stop talking to me. She was like, uh-huh. And you said he wears his colors? Yeah, that's why he wears black and yellow. It's the other guy's color. She's like, okay. When you say it out loud, it's not like super great storytelling. Not your fault, just in general, but like,
00:56:57
Speaker
Well, when you say it out loud, you have to like, it's interesting. Like, I mean, that's true of any storytelling, but like, you do have to imbue these things with meaning. It's like, if, if you hadn't watched old Kawata matches, like it's a little weird that Eddie loves this ramen maker from Tokyo who does not smile. Did you describe to her Kawata kicks? That's really the best thing about that ramen maker.
00:57:24
Speaker
We, we haven't gotten there yet. The next Tai Chi match we watch will break down the Kawata kicks. Okay. Okay. Also that's actually another fun, fun thing to break down for her. It's like, so that other guy that, that was Eddie's hero. He taught this guy how to wrestle. Oh, so they get along. No, he hates him now. It's like, imagine if your teacher hated you.
00:57:50
Speaker
They're like, I don't want to think that Sam really likes me. That was my high school Spanish teacher, Mrs. Barger. Why didn't she and I ever get to have an intergender match? Maybe in Arena Mexico. We could have made a event at a AAA show. At the very least, you guys could wrestle at a Mexican restaurant on the undercard of an Alberto Del Rio match.
00:58:22
Speaker
God, if I ever see her at Plaza Mariachi, it's fucking on. So overall, good time with your child at a... Terrific, terrific time. And she woke up in time to get to school this morning. And from all reports, it was actually very good today for everyone. So, you know, can't complain. I took a big risk there. Big risk, I gotta admit.
00:58:51
Speaker
I would pay to hear her tell the other kids what she saw last night. I did. I, I didn't want to like push her to do that. Cause I was like, that's just let her do that. She does what she doesn't, but I would be interested in, yes, I'm with you. I'd be interested in hearing her describe. It's like, so daddy and I went to the tennis stadium last night and we watched men, people fight.
00:59:16
Speaker
There were big explosions. Because that is the other thing I will say. We were fairly close to the pyro and she had headphones on, which was really good because it was it was quite loud. But we were closer than I would have and I would have wanted to be to the fire. Legitimately, when like the flame pyro shoots up, it gets 20 degrees hotter. Let's not it was not quite expecting that.
00:59:44
Speaker
Did you see, I think earlier this week, I sent this clip to the group chat on Instagram. I think it was at a Circle Six show or something. AJ Gray had posted a photo of his face all swollen, like his eyes swollen shut. And there was like a pyro box, like kind of shooting the Goldberg sparks up. And in the match, he got his arms held behind his back and his face held directly over that.
01:00:13
Speaker
when it explodes. And it looked like it very much fucked him up. And I don't know who thought that was going to be maybe a spot that could go any way other than it did. Like the only way it could have gone is worse than that. Yeah. There's a reason why the Sheik and Jerry Lawler used like flash paper and not like actual fireworks.
01:00:38
Speaker
Good on him. It looked like. I mean, I mean, on that regard, good on him for taking it. Right. I guess I, you know, respect. Yeah. There's no way that they didn't have a conversation about that spot and be like, yep, this is going to suck. I'm going to go to the hospital tonight. Yeah. So I do want to bring this up because I know we're nearing the end.
01:01:05
Speaker
So I my tiktok sucks. Like, no, I don't make tiktoks, but like I never get sent tiktoks I want to see. And do you do you use that app at all? I don't. And I actually don't particularly like sort of the comedy like tiktok format. I mean, you see a few funny things now and then, but I.
01:01:27
Speaker
You know, well, I guess like what I see isn't even always funny, but like the thing I've enjoyed lately is it brought back a memory that I had completely forgotten about. And that is season one tough enough. Bob Holly beating the shit out of that kid.
01:01:44
Speaker
Like one of the kids he's training, he's, the kid has to have like a match with hardcore Holly and hardcore Holly just absolutely beats the shit out of him. He's kicking him in the face for real. He is chopping him until he's bleeding. Like by the end of it, his eyes swollen shut and they aired that on MTV. And Holly was gainfully employed for many years afterwards.
01:02:10
Speaker
But the thing that this person who put the TikTok together was really good about is they put this clip and showed like the students being like, I mean, your trainer is just in there beating up your best friend and there's just nothing you could do. And then it just cuts to a clip of Brock Lesnar breaking his neck.
01:02:30
Speaker
breaking a hardcore Holly's neck. And that was awesome. Hardcore Holly was such an asshole. Like, I can't think of a guy who just seemed like a bigger fucking piece of shit. I mean, you can, but like, like, yeah, JBL seemed pretty terrible. There were a lot of terrible people in that locker room. They all seem to hang out together. For sure. Like JBL and hardcore Holly have the exact same energy.
01:02:59
Speaker
I don't know. I just I always hated that guy, though. I love the Alabama Slam. So I was very torn there. But then I saw another clip because I guess the algorithms like he likes hardcore Holly clips. And I was like, you're kind of right. I do. It showed this clip of DDP getting interviewed by what's that guy's name? Chris Van Valle or.
01:03:22
Speaker
I don't know if that's right and delete. I have no idea. I know his face. I've not really watched any of his interviews, but he's interviewing DDP and DDP showing this clip about one of the worst bumps he ever took. He was giving hardcore Holly a superplex.
01:03:38
Speaker
off the top rope. I was actually in tears by the end of this clip. And DDP was so concerned about hardcore Holly landing flat back from the superplex. He forgot about how he should land himself and basically landed high on his shoulders and neck. And he said when he landed, he heard hardcore Holly yell
01:04:05
Speaker
And he's like, I almost just broke my fucking neck. Why are you yelping? They show the clip back. When DDP lands, he landed so awkward that his whole body folded backwards and his foot just kicked our corollary in the nuts so hard.
01:04:34
Speaker
I'm crying. It couldn't happen to a nicer guy. I will say, what was the hardcore Holly kicked in the in the ball's face? Because I will say the Chris Jericho kicked in the ball's face after the Sammy Guevara thing was incredible. Like Chris Jericho's face just said like L my Nards.
01:05:01
Speaker
Did Maddie sing the jingle? Does Maddie know the words of Judas yet? We were getting a hot dog during that. She did not enjoy the pizza, so we were getting a hot dog while Judas was on. It's okay. There'll be more chances to hear Judas. Probably. There will be. I think so.
01:05:25
Speaker
You know, eventually she's going to get old enough where she's going to go like, why is that man doing flips like that? When these other person, she's like, when you try to put it together, you're like, why did he do that? When Ray Phoenix is in the next match doing that. Love the Ray Phoenix. Love that. That was, uh, her, or they didn't have any children's merch. So we bought Lucha brother stickers.
01:05:52
Speaker
Okay, that's cool. Honestly, I feel like Phoenix is on a hot streak right now. He's the international champion now. Yeah, for real. And he honestly deserves it. I think after that rampage match, I've just been paying so much more attention to him and kind of trying to appreciate him while I have him kind of thing. Yeah, no, I think it's great. I mean, look, eventually, if they've got other plans, you put it back on mocks.
01:06:21
Speaker
Honestly, there's worse things than Ray Phoenix getting a nice moment like that. Yeah. I mean, a nice surprise to, even if it's not, cause I don't think anybody thought it was a surprise to everyone, everyone, including feelings. Wrestling is pretty easy. He's just like, what is this real?
01:06:44
Speaker
Did I really win? I beat him. That actually should be the match. If you can pin him before he bleeds, then you're world champion of the company. It's a unique version of a first blood match. Mocks bleeds, the match ends. They haven't done them. When was the last first blood match?
01:07:13
Speaker
It's been a while. It's, you know, though, it's one of those things though, that like, I don't know. First blood used to work in the territories thing. Now it just kind of feels, I don't know. It doesn't seem quite, it feels like something that's been evolved past, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Although in some ways it's good. I, in some ways I actually think there's gimmick matches that we've evolved past that people,
01:07:42
Speaker
just haven't given up on yet. Um, like, uh, I don't know. It was like cage matches generally, you know, once like hell in a cell, most particularly, like once, once everyone just kind of codified the Foley bumps and stuff like that, it's just like, this is why just stop. There's no point. I was, I was at the mania where Shane,
01:08:09
Speaker
took the bump off the top of the cell through the announced table. I think that was against Undertaker. And like, that's literally the only thing you remember from the entire match. I assume Undertaker probably won that one. I think so. I went to a Hell in a Cell pay-per-view once. I saw three Hell in a Cell matches in a night. And three? Yes. I don't really remember any of them that well.
01:08:37
Speaker
I, where was it at? Was it at Madison square garden or something? It was in, it was in Newark at the Prudential center. This is 2009. It was a undertaker against CM punk, um, Orton against Cena and DX versus, uh, legacy Cody and DBS. And none were worth mentioning. No.
01:09:05
Speaker
I know I've talked about this on here. I did go to Hell in a Cell at the Staples Center. And there were two. There was Reigns versus Bray in a Cell, kind of whatever. But the main event was one of the three, because Lesnar and Taker did a trilogy, right? I think that's right. So Lesnar, Taker, that was... I can't remember if I saw that one, but that got good reviews, certainly.
01:09:31
Speaker
It was. Yeah, because that was one of the first matches at the time, like of me coming back and watching wrestling where I had seen somebody tear the ring apart, where they I think I don't remember if I think Lesnar was the one that like, you know, tore the canvas up, pulled the mats back and they were slamming each other on boards inside the cell. And at the time, it definitely felt like something I hadn't seen. So I did walk away from thinking that that was a memorable one.
01:10:01
Speaker
Yeah, no, I just think just generally gimmick matches, sometimes they just hit, I don't know, paradoxically, right? Once they've hit a peak where they become sort of a brand, and obviously, especially WWE would want to reuse them again and again, and even to some extent, EW does it too. It's like once you've hit that peak a lot of times, you've already,
01:10:27
Speaker
I don't know, you've gone as far as you can. Like for example, Stadium Stampede, they did the one, what could they really do next year? They did the top comedy one in the first year, even then the second one was only so-so. Then they did the one in Wembley. Like, I guess you could do it every year in Wembley or something, but do you really need to?
01:10:51
Speaker
Well, the Wembley one was basically anarchy in the arena. I feel like they never hit the level of the first stadium stampede where they were truly throughout that entire stadium. But they were also in a stadium where there was a pool, horses were brought in, they're going off goalposts. They really utilized everything. But that means that I don't want anarchy in the arena to go away.
01:11:18
Speaker
I like that. I like what they've done with all of them. It's been very fun. Like anytime I think that is going to be like a low point on the card, it's. It seems like it would be a great thing to be in the room for. Yeah, I mean, part of the other thing with that is it's really just a fight, right? The anarchy in the arena doesn't have. Like a point. Other than it's it's a fight. I think the problem
01:11:48
Speaker
keep picking on Hell in a Cell, but the problem with Hell in a Cell specifically is that the point is to keep people in. And then they just, they broke the point. It's kind of, again, it's kind of the same with cage matches where like the point was to beat guys up until a certain thing happened. And then it became, no, the point is to do flips off a cage. And it's like, that's like, it doesn't really work. Like the, the, the psychology of it doesn't work anymore the same way.
01:12:16
Speaker
Whereas yeah, I guess anarchy in the arena could be better or worse, but it's, it's just guys punching each other. So the psychology is intact and fine. I hear me about war games, doing the big spots with war games. It's like, once you do again, an EEW did this too. It's like, once you are doing the escape, the cage spots and war games, it's like, well, then if the whole, you're selling it on, they're locked in the cage and it's like, well, they keep not getting being locked in the cage. So yeah.
01:12:46
Speaker
Well, last one before we get out of here. What about, do you remember, I have no idea what WWE pay-per-view this was from, but it was sometime in the 2010s. It was John Cena versus Rusev in a four corners match where they were dog collared, but also had to hit the turnbuckles in order. And if you got beat up before you hit the next one, it reset all of them.
01:13:15
Speaker
It made it more like a, like an American gladiators game than it did a wrestling match. Well, those were like the traditional strap match rules, which are steep. Like again, I, I don't even understand what the, again, I think the only way you could explain the logic of that is, is to use the same thing as the old like Bruno cage match thing, which is the ideas that you're just supposed to beat your opponent up hard enough.
01:13:41
Speaker
that they just like, you just can walk around and like hit the corners to go to everyone and be like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Whereas again, once people figured out the finish where it's like, we touch, they keep touching, but then the one guy's getting dragged behind and he keeps touching. And then there's something that's a fight that happens to the fourth corner. And they were just like, well, that's a good finish. Let's use that in all of them. You know, wasn't, wasn't good anymore. Um, yeah. And I forget, I forgot they brought that back.
01:14:11
Speaker
for that. I don't remember that match at all. We should rewatch it. I bet it was really fun. Should we? I don't know. There's a lot of old ECW to watch. There's so much other wrestling we could be watching. I do. Yeah, I've really been wanting to watch like Anita in the middle of a swimming pool in a ring that's filled with explosives and barbed wire that that's really where the good stuff is.
Speculating Fax's Podcast Return
01:14:37
Speaker
But, um, yeah, so, uh, will fax be back next week or is he still, we're getting closer to the return of Jimmy fax. Yes. He is, um, getting platelet rich plasma injections in Europe right now. Um, he's, uh, for this podcast guys, he is blood doping.
01:15:02
Speaker
What will that bring to the podcast? How will the audio be different with the things he's putting in his body? Well, I'm pretty sure we're gonna be able to hear that he's just erect and just hitting the mic constantly. I think that's gonna add to the audio.
01:15:20
Speaker
You just hear like this. That's just the sound of the blood rushing through his penis. We have, we have a little like news anchor mic just right down there. So it's, it's actually, it's got its own mic throughout the show. So you can just hear it going. That's ASMR. I want to hear is just basically faxes penis sounding like a noise machine to get me to go to sleep. And there's the penis talk mom. Sorry that your baby boy turned out this way.
AEW Show Experience through a Child's Eyes
01:15:50
Speaker
We love you, Mrs. Callender. And we will be following your YouTube channel, don't worry. Hit subscribe, like and comment, ring the bell for notifications. All right, everybody, I think that's it for this week. I think we have tapped out. Chris, I'm happy you got to go see another big AEW show.
01:16:17
Speaker
I'm really glad we got through. I was really nervous about this one and I'm glad I got through it. My wife asked her this one. She's like, how'd you like the show, Maddie? And Maddie was like, it was awesome. And so that was.
01:16:30
Speaker
That was- That has to feel great. That's the joy. It does feel great, Garrett. I gotta say, you'll get there soon enough. Someday we'll be taking our children to wrestling shows together, which will be great because that means we can get drunk and we'll just make fast days sober. It'll be perfect. You can take care of the kids. Uncle Fax will be the one driving the cab home.
01:16:56
Speaker
Now that just, it sounds like you're building some really nice memories and that very much warms my heart to hear the tales of you and your daughter go into wrestling around New York City and New Jersey, I guess. And New Jersey. Yeah, I look forward to getting to do it again. We'll see when the opportunity arises. How does she feel about boxcars? You know, she likes chapter books now before bed.
01:17:25
Speaker
I think it's time we get her into the boxcar, children. Yeah. Honey, this is where you go see daddy's friend bleed in a shed. Is he hurt? Yes, but he likes it. It's OK.
01:17:44
Speaker
All right, everybody, thanks for listening. We'll be back next week reviewing drinks, talking about penises, maybe watching some Monita, probably thinking about knobs, Brian and otherwise. All right, everybody, what do we rate, review, subscribe? Do we still tell people that you're here? Do it or don't. Yeah, do whatever you feel like. Tell a friend if you want. You know where our Instagram is. It's predetermined pod, right?
01:18:14
Speaker
You're here. The people that listen are here. You're here. You're here every week. We appreciate you. We love you. Yeah. Thanks for listening. Yeah. Go. Get our goddamn music.