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AEW Dynasty and the sweet taste of Forever Chemicals
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Garrett goes to AEW Dynasty, Shad Khan fights Jungle Boy, the boys drink Forever Chemicals and more!
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Chris Miggs' Japan Adventures
00:00:34
Speaker
Hey everybody, welcome to another episode of Predetermined, a Pro Wrestling Hangout. Garrett Callender, Jimmy Fax, and a returning Chris Miggs. I've returned. He's returned from Japan. I've returned from Japan. I should have told you guys this. I went to Japan with Heater. I was the big Japan cameraman. So.
00:01:02
Speaker
It was a great job. They paid me, I would just set up a camera and I took my iPhone 4 and I just kind of taped it to the wall. Good thing you kept that iPhone 4.
00:01:20
Speaker
I know, very lucky. A guy behind the scenes, he kept speaking to me in Japanese, and I'm pretty sure he was telling me, great job. I don't speak any Japanese though, so I have no clue. Did you get paid for this? How many yen? It was 2,000 yen. That's a lot of money for a week, right? 2,000 yen? That's like halfway to an AEW pay-per-view.
00:01:49
Speaker
All right, I also got, so I don't know if maybe our listeners haven't seen this heater went to Ribera and got a Ribera jacket. Very jealous of that. And I also went to Ribera, but cameramen do not get the jacket, I found out. But they do get the Ribera commemorative key chain. So that is very exciting. That's worth something.
00:02:13
Speaker
Yeah, the back to my back door key is on the rubber key chain now. And you can't put that on. It's an honor. It's an
Contract Conundrums and AEW Antics
00:02:19
Speaker
honor. So so here's the thing is, listen, Chris, I get I get you getting the opportunity. I get you taking it. Right. It's in. And here's what I don't get. If you were just a cameraman, did you have to go on camera and rip up your predetermined camera contract? It just it seemed like overkill. And now you're back here with us and it's kind of awkward.
00:02:40
Speaker
because you ripped up your predetermined contract and we saw it. I mean, like we were aware of the show. Yeah. I don't know. Evil and and ghetto or and Dictogo are very persuasive. And so they called me up. They said, Chris, this is this is the thing to do. This is how you get back to America.
00:03:05
Speaker
Yeah, I assumed it was just the plane ticket that had been purchased, but they said this is how you get back. And so I felt like I had to. And honestly, much like Jack Perry, you guys are welcoming me with open arms. So it really seems like, you know, as you as an EVP of pro wrestling hangout LLC, I actually I actually like the Moxie. I'm not going to lie. Yeah, thanks.
00:03:30
Speaker
Well, and to be fair, you and Jack both just ripped up a copy of it. So like that isn't like a legally binding thing. You know, it's your lawyer. Like does this does flamboyantly ripping apart a contract actually nullify it in a court of law?
00:03:48
Speaker
When you do it in Japan or there's a level of flamboyance that's required It's an I know it when you see it doctrine where the judge knows intrinsically whether if the contract is ripped flamboyantly enough that does Void it if you just tear it's it's not the same, but if you rip it just correctly Right, you really put some some spunk on it
00:04:11
Speaker
By the way, I don't know if you guys are watching. We're once again recording during dynamite. The Jacksons just gave a tombstone to Tony Khan. So Tony Khan has taken his first in ring bump and is apparently an on screen anti authority figure. All right.
00:04:31
Speaker
I don't know if you're joking. I am not. I am 100% dead serious. I didn't. I assume it was there was more, but Jungle Boy hit him. Then I was talking to you guys. And the next thing I looked up, he was I saw Matt had him in the pile driver position, so I assume it was.
00:04:51
Speaker
And what's the Bucks move with the pile driver? The TK driver. Yeah, exactly. So I but but next thing I saw, I was just Tony on the ground being attended to by officials and the Bucks, Okada and Jungle Boy all around him. What was the selling like? I didn't see the selling. So now he's just doing the old pre stone cold Vince McMahon of just actually dead, like completely motionless in the middle of the ring.
00:05:20
Speaker
He literally
Shad Khan's Wrestling Cameo
00:05:21
Speaker
has his hand on his chest as though his heart has exploded. The TK Driver, formerly the Melter Driver, very powerful. Very powerful. Yeah. It was called Indie Taker for a reason, you know. Right. I was going to say Indie Taker. I'm like, I know that's not what it's called anymore. Yeah, that looks like that's how they're ending the show tonight is Tony Khan selling harder than Brian Danielson did.
00:05:48
Speaker
So he's learned. He worked. He worked with Danielson and Daniel. Well, this is why he hired all of these great workers is to learn how to take the gunshot bump from taking a finisher of one of your talent or, you know, a high impact move. It's not really their finisher, but.
00:06:08
Speaker
Do you think he'd been trying to take something since day one and the talent had to be like, no, you got to wait a few years. Oh, wait. Now it's going to it. We've got top flight and and Chris Daniels and Pentagon in the ring and one of a couple of the Dark Order guys. This is like the big. Oh, and Tony Khan's dad, Shad Khan.
00:06:33
Speaker
Wow, Chad, I swear. You're lying. God, Shad Khan was just on my TVS screen. It is now concluded. They're in commercial break going to the next show, but I swear on my unborn children's lives. Shad Khan or some I have it on mute, so it could be someone that looks alarmingly like him.
00:06:57
Speaker
was on the screen. So so you're telling me could have been Sasha Baron Cohen to the character, but I'm pretty sure it was Shad gone. The eighth, which is telling me that they've officially announced for double or nothing. We've got the cons and a member of top flight versus the box and Pentagon and Pentagon. And then you got to throw Perry and Okada in there to make it presumably a war game of blood and guts match.
00:07:25
Speaker
Yeah, and now it's the Oilers game. Now it's Oilers Kings. So that was how the show ended. Here's my feeling on this. If facts is not lying to us, which we can't I can I can either prove how by the way, how mad would you be if you have to just wipe an entire episode because I just made up a bunch of shit? Or would you be kind of titillated? I would definitely just release what happened because I still like don't fully believe you.
00:07:53
Speaker
I'm now retroactively worried that it was just another over middle-aged Indian man, and I'm gonna get canceled for thinking
00:08:04
Speaker
that just some random guy that works at the company and maybe he's a wrestler. And I'm just like, uh, it's an over 50 Indian guy. It's got to be shed con. And it was just a it was a fired gender Mahal. Yeah. Yeah. He just let go. Really shrunk. Just as soon as he was off the gas, he just. It's actually it's meant to be shed con, but Chad was like, I just can't do this, but you can hire someone to play me, Tony.
00:08:34
Speaker
And then he hired Jinder to play his dad. Oh, actually, you know what? I know this was all jokes, but like now I'm kind of concerned, like they have Tony take a bump. Shad's on the screen. Jungle Boy needs some comeuppance now. Is this an angle to get? The big man on Tony Khan side in a W. Oh, my God, because they had the fucking feud on Twitter a while ago.
00:09:03
Speaker
Yeah. No, no, it's not. I don't. Again, I'm watching hockey analysts now, so I can't speculate. I didn't catch my close captioning what they were saying. Quite a
Wrestling Victories and Fan Interactions
00:09:15
Speaker
dynamic thing. If if if this is indeed, again, if this is not a lie that that faxes voices upon us for his own entertainment. Here's my things like me. Shad Khan loves his son so much like.
00:09:30
Speaker
You know what? How much more Shad Khan loves his son than Vince loves either of his children combined. Yeah. That's amazing. Like, you know how, like from the first time when, when little Tony was like, he was like, where do you want to go? And he was like, I want to go to a bingo hall in South Philadelphia to sit with sweaty men while people bleed in front of me. And he was like, all right, son, whatever you want.
00:09:57
Speaker
That's love. And up to this very day in which he was like, dad, do you want to be on TV after I've been injured by the people I work with? Yeah. And he was just like, whatever you want, son. Well, I think it's it's like, Chris, you know, with your daughter, you know, some your older daughter, like sometimes you're playing.
00:10:18
Speaker
with, she's playing with toys and she kind of wants you to get in on it, right? So I think that that's it, where you're just kind of like phoning it in and you're just kind of like, oh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh. And then, you know, she's like, but dad, get into it. That's Tony Khan. I'm questioning how good of a dad I am. Like, if that's you and Chad Khan, I'm, I don't think I am a Chad Khan, you know? Maybe I'm not. I think he's just a better dad than me.
00:10:47
Speaker
Well, we're gonna find out as the storyline progresses that Shad actually made a bunch of Twitter bots and fake Instagram accounts to post all of these mean things about AEW under every single post to just try and get him to quit pissing away the family's fortune and do something more noble. Okay, by the way, I've just Googled Shad Khan and again,
00:11:15
Speaker
It could be someone doing a character piece from the 1890s, but no one else on Earth has that mustache. It was definitely ShadCon. I will say the Observer website does confirm this, that that was ShadCon. Fax was not lying to us, Garrett. That was not something he just made
Epic Matches and Live Experiences
00:11:40
Speaker
up.
00:11:41
Speaker
I was just going to wait to find out next week. Just never watch dynamite. By the way, one interesting thing. I also obviously clicked on his Wikipedia while I was there. Shad can't see me. Just my dad. Not really relevant. Has there is another kid? Tony is not an only child. So what what is he doing with that other kid who is not named on his Wikipedia page? He is. But it says he has two children and one of them is Tony God.
00:12:12
Speaker
I believe it's a daughter. I believe Tony is referenced having a sister. Um, I think maybe. Yes. He has a sheet together. They have a daughter named Shana Khan and a son, Tony Khan. So she's older. It sounds like from the wording. I think he's proud of her too. Um, and in fact, I think he's more unambiguously proud of her because he doesn't have to explain to his friends that his son is running a wrestling company.
00:12:42
Speaker
Well, the daughter actually wants to buy all of GameStop because physical media is going to be really hot soon. And you got to get in now. No, just she's just like, you know, Shad gave them each 100 mil like five years ago when he's like, here's your 100 mil, Tony, to start AEW. You know, I got to give Shanna 100 mil, too. She put all of that in Bitcoin and now all of that is funding everything else.
00:13:11
Speaker
All the money the Jaguars are losing, AEW, none of it matters. Koshana Khan turned 100 million into like 20 billion in Bitcoin. Oh, we should launch a crypto, by the way, we should we should create like Jimmy coin. And it's not me. It's obviously Jimmy Lloyd. Of course. God damn, it's exchange. It's exchangeable for other tokens and cigarettes. And that's it.
00:13:41
Speaker
It's literally when you're on your computer in your, your crypto wallet app and you exchange one Jimmy coin, just a cigarette comes out of the USB port. I will say I did. Um, you know, we should talk about the very big show that Garrett attended, but after that show, while Garrett was, you know, desperately attempting to get out of the chafetz arena, slowly but surely,
00:14:09
Speaker
Um, I, I ended up watching some of the GCW show that was in Albuquerque for some reason at some, some old timey bar looking place. And, uh, broski Jimmy wrestled, uh, Nick gage rekindled their rivalry. And actually it was, it was pretty solid. I saw that message happening. I didn't realize it was this soon. Yeah. How did, uh, gauge look pretty solid gauge look, gauge looks good. You know, um,
00:14:38
Speaker
You know, Broski Jimmy was talking about how the people were dirty, which was hilarious. And when you can't go to sleep because Will Ospreay and Brian Danielson have just jacked your energy through the roof, GCW is there for me.
00:14:59
Speaker
Well, after the show, I actually ran into Shad Khan in the parking lot and I gave him my shark tank pitch to give me $35 so that I could buy Control Your Narrative. And he said he's thinking about it. He'll have his people call your people. He actually gave me $35 to go away. So guys, we actually own Control Your Narrative now. Chris, surprise, we got the shorts.
00:15:31
Speaker
Oh my God, guys, that's amazing. Thank you. Oh, shit. Yeah, that show, we just spent 15 minutes talking about a show that we didn't even believe facts about. But the show they did before that was pretty excellent, huh? And I don't blame you, by the way. I've earned that reputation.
00:15:58
Speaker
It just seemed like a prime moment to fuck with us. Like, honestly, a lot of what you said still doesn't sound believable, even though Chris told me it was real. I think you guys text before we went into this, like, Garrett's not going to look it up on the air. He doesn't want to fuck up the recording, so he'll... I'm like, Chris, no matter what ridiculous shit I say, just go with it and say that Meltzer said it happened.
00:16:24
Speaker
I've actually created a deep fake Meltzer Twitter account that I've been maintaining for years. Meltzer has no idea how to use Twitter. That's been me all along. I'm the one that keeps responding to trolls about the ratings I give to AW matches.
00:16:44
Speaker
I also logged him
Influential Voices in Wrestling
00:16:45
Speaker
out of his own observer account. Dave Meltzer incredibly calm man, just very has never been bothered by a person on the Internet ever. Barely knows the Internet exists. He still manually mails out the observer, and that is his only role in the organization that I've since infiltrated and taken over. You know, they quit that. They quit having mailed observers like two months ago.
00:17:13
Speaker
You could have probably retiring someone you could have gotten someone to send you the observer in the mail up until legitimately like 2024.
00:17:23
Speaker
Imagine you're the person, you're Gladys who works at that post office and Dave's been coming in for decades. Just every, you know, I don't know what day he sends them. We'll say, you know, every Tuesday he just comes in with these cases and sometimes there's more and more cases and you're just like, who the fuck is this weirdo? I know he's Dave. I talked to him.
00:17:46
Speaker
You know, he's a little offered a little, you know, he tried to ask me out that one time. I made it very clear that was never going to happen. And he just sends these things, these wrestling newsletters like such. And then like one day she finds like he has a Wikipedia page and like people in the world actually know who he is. That's just going to be my. He's been sending this to like friends and just they don't.
00:18:11
Speaker
It's been wasting it all these years. That's what she was thinking. I wonder what this is going to do to our government budget since Meltzer was the last one supporting the US Postal Service. Since Amazon cut out the middleman on ordering shit online, it's really just been Meltzer and pre-approved credit card offers.
00:18:34
Speaker
We're going to have to raise taxes, guys. I do need to know because I know Fax wrote out Netflix discs until the day it died. Chris, were you the one that was writing out the physical copy of The Observer until it died? I was not. I was not. But I mean, let's be clear, right behind me are like a bunch of VHS tapes. I mean, I witnessed you by I witnessed you buy a VHS tape no more than three weeks ago.
00:19:04
Speaker
Yes. Did you pop in Sabu's VHS tape? Was it like a wedding video or something? I have not sat down to watch it yet. That was actually a very funny interaction because the guy selling it to me was like, okay, I want you to be clear. This is a playable tape. And I was like,
00:19:28
Speaker
I wasn't assuming otherwise, do people think that you're just selling VHS tapes as like, and buy it anyway. Yeah. In that moment, you had to actually question whether or not it was playable. Yeah. I'm actually now shocked. You haven't played it just to confirm its authenticity.
Merchandise, Matches, and Storytelling
00:19:49
Speaker
Right behind me, guys.
00:19:52
Speaker
It turns out that it's actually, whatever is on it was recorded over a taping he had of Mars attacks on TBS 15 years ago. Longer, I guess. I think it's going to be fan cam footage from Shad Khan, who had to record it on a camcorder in 1985.
00:20:14
Speaker
because little Tony just didn't have the coordination to keep the camera straight. And he would be so mad if it didn't get recorded. So that pay-per-view is pretty good. 20 minutes and we should discuss that. Garrett, you, so Vax and I went to WrestleMania weekend. We saw some excellent wrestling. We saw wrestling in a skate park and in a bar.
00:20:44
Speaker
and we're still aggressively jealous of you.
00:20:50
Speaker
I would have not guessed that that would have happened. Do you ever just sometimes look at the name and font of a pay-per-view and think, this one's not gonna be very good, mostly? And this one kind of came out of nowhere, right? I feel like it was like a week before the last pay-per-view, they're like, hey, by the way, we're adding this one in St. Louis. It feels like it just literally wasn't even on the calendar.
00:21:14
Speaker
for very long for a pay-per-view. I think it was literally announced at the last pay-per-view. That's what I was thinking. I remember us being like, wait, it's in like a month and change?
00:21:26
Speaker
Well, because I missed that one. And when they announced that, I was like, well, fuck, that's closer to me than this one was. I'll go to that instead, I guess. And I know you were locked in as soon as they announced Danielson Osprey for obvious reasons. But even when they announced that, it was kind of like, oh, so they're making this a one match pay per view. Right. Like they're just going to they're going to say the marks will pay for this one match and it will just fill it up with whatever other just crap. But no, it was basically top bottom. It's just a fucking awesome show.
00:21:57
Speaker
Okada opened. He opened. And retroactively, I can't make a strong case for that, any other placement. Yeah, I think you're right. I don't think anything else, like it was a hot match to open with, especially because I don't know, it was an Okada match. It had kind of a slow build and then just built to a really hot, like final five minutes and got the crowd really juiced.
00:22:25
Speaker
which just also perfectly set the tone for the night, right? Because like, if you think about it, that kind of set up the modern main event style that like, AEW, New Japan, kind of all the big, the adapted like hybrid indie style combined with the heavyweight TV era style, which then you saw later in the show, Osprey and Danielson elevate to like art.
00:22:55
Speaker
Which speaking of Dave, apparently the observer for this week obviously hasn't come out yet, but apparently he said on air that this was probably seven stars. So again, what he said was this was the best match in North American history.
00:23:12
Speaker
And for the last time, it was me, not Dave. I've been using AI bots to disguise my voice, deep faking the image. I said that, but but I am the one that you guys think has been Dave Meltzer since about whenever I intercepted his AOL disk in the mail. I think that was like 93. I was 11 and I hijacked it.
00:23:40
Speaker
Um, but yeah, he's the only thing he's like the only thing that separated it from Okada Omega
00:23:47
Speaker
three, the two out of three falls match was that there was a better story in the other match, which is true. Yeah. I mean, I think that's a little high. I mean, I thought the match was. But I think it was above five star. It was incredible. It was fucking incredible. I think it's I think it's certainly I think it's certainly on the list of the greatest matches of all time. And I think that once you hit that rarefied air, it doesn't really matter. It's really just personal preference at that point.
00:24:13
Speaker
Yes. Except of course my preference is correct. So up
Speculations on AEW's Future
00:24:17
Speaker
in that, but, um, no, but how did, how did it feel to be there, Garrett, for that one? That was a, wait, where were your seats? Let's start with that. I want to know what your sight lines were.
00:24:28
Speaker
Yeah, so we were in the corner, so we're section 106, but it's such a small arena that honestly might be the smallest arena I've ever been in. So being in the corner, I still feel like is maybe the closest I had been to an AEW ring not on the floor.
00:24:50
Speaker
Like even being there, like I was still, cause when you look at the seats on the floor, there were only two rows of seats on each side, except for the entrance. Like, you know, then there's like 10 rows. So it's like really, like there's not a lot of,
00:25:06
Speaker
space like I never had to look at the the titan tron or whatever to see what was happening in the ring like I was close enough that it was the same view if I looked at the TV or what was actually happening which which is strange like because you were telling us that during the pre-show and so when the show started I intentionally was looking for that and I definitely noticed some telltale signs of this isn't that big but it honestly
00:25:30
Speaker
looked on TV, it looked like a full arena. So maybe they should be doing more of this for dynamites, maybe not the paper views. And the crowd was very loud. You could definitely hear them on the TV broadcast during all the different
00:25:48
Speaker
emotions they went through. You went through. Yeah, because there were things I was texting you that I didn't think you would have heard during the Jericho match. And as I was texting you some of the chance that we're starting from our section, you're like, oh, no, no, we heard that on television.
00:26:06
Speaker
I haven't rewatched the Jericho match and I did eventually, partway through, use it as a bathroom break and ran into an old pal out in the lobby and just chatted with him until it was over. But as far as being there for Osprey and Danielson,
00:26:29
Speaker
I could tell it was a moment where you can tell that what was happening was special because I don't think I've ever felt like that during a match I've seen live. Like I've seen some really good live wrestling, but there was something as it was happening that I was like, this is I don't know, just the reactions, the involuntary yelling that was coming out of me. I I'm I'm with you like watching on TV like there's
00:26:54
Speaker
on, thankfully, the fight app and not feature report app. So I was able to see it without issues. It like you knew those guys were going to have a very good match, right? Like the floor of what that match was going to be is still better than most guys ceilings. But there I absolutely felt it at a moment. You're like, yeah, like no matter how this ends, like this is a very special match that's going to be
00:27:20
Speaker
you know, arguably match of the year, at least in the conversation. And then by the time it ends, you're like. Fuck like I don't know the last time I felt like that watching wrestling, it's been honestly for me, I don't know where it ranks in the best matches of all time, but it's been years since I felt like that blown away by a match. I mean, again, maybe since maybe since Okada and Kenny, right? Yeah, I mean, it were the Bucks, the Bucks against Hangman and Kenny.
00:27:50
Speaker
I think this match was a better match, but obviously that one had a lot of the feels. Mm hmm. Yeah. Which you know, I'm the only other one I would say that we saw live that I would put with that very different match, but Cody and Dustin. We're just yeah, immediately. Everyone was just like, yeah, we're in and we were there for Okada. That's Okada, Kenny and Danielson, which was great, but I think the match
00:28:16
Speaker
didn't under deliver, but it didn't over deliver the way this one did. Well, and that's where like I get the modern six star rating, right? Is that I think that we've seen a lot of matches that I think you are five. Like my definition of five stars is it's flawless. Like it couldn't be improved. But then there really is a layer beyond that of like, this is just like perfection. Like it's just not only could it not be improved, but like,
00:28:45
Speaker
You had to have such a high degree of difficulty and then just such flawless execution. I say because you you you posted video of the finish right where they're where they do the stare down and with the running hidden blade against the running knee and the angle man like that looked amazing on TV but just the angle because you were in kind of in the corner and I feel like you almost had like the perfect view for it because you could see them coming at each other. Yeah.
00:29:16
Speaker
Yeah, I don't know. It's one that I'm honestly even just thinking back on it. I'm a little speechless, but when that match was over, because I went with our buddy, Teg, and I was just kind of in shock at the end. I even sound like, was that like?
00:29:35
Speaker
Kenny Okada levels of good because I feel like in my heart it was. But what confused me is that no one in our section, it was like once the match was over, our section was just like, okay, next thing. But I'm still just like, my brain is still spinning when it's over. I'm like, why isn't everybody in awe right now that we just saw one of the best matches I think you could possibly ever see? Yeah, because that's where I was like,
00:30:03
Speaker
Like the first time it was for me, it was like watching that match was like, you know, leaving that match was like leaving my first sexual encounter where it's like this was so much better than my first sexual encounter. No, but it was just more like I don't want to do anything else. I just want to either have that again or or just tell absolutely all of my friends about it. Well, I didn't have to apologize to anyone at the end of this.
00:30:32
Speaker
for like the finish didn't come too early, you know, nor did I need to like quietly walk home along the main line in Philadelphia, outside Philadelphia, the next point, which is a real upside relative, relative to that for me. I am I'm with you, though, I kind of can't believe that other people like, you know, watching on TV, I feel like I was able to be like, that was incredible. I guess I'll watch the next thing, too. But
00:31:01
Speaker
Yeah. Live. I can't believe everyone wasn't fully spent. Yeah. Cause that's gotten me. Like I've mentioned that AJ Styles, John Cena match at the Royal Rumble in San Antonio. That was one generally guarded as a very good four and a half to five star match by most people. But like I was there in the crowd and I just remember being like, guys, no, you don't understand. That was like one of the greatest matches of all time.
00:31:23
Speaker
And sometimes that happens. But Garrett, in your case, this actually was one of the greatest matches of all time. And like it seems pretty universally agreed that it's somewhere on that tier. I think to like before I talk about anything else with the show, I do need to say we had an absolute shithead sitting behind us who was not impressed with anything the whole night. Did he see not his asshole?
00:31:55
Speaker
He was there with a couple guys and his wife, and it sounded like he hated AEW, so I didn't know why he was there. In any match that happened, he had complaints. But what I did love is that he would throw out his predictions very confidently to his wife.
00:32:18
Speaker
And every prediction was wrong. But anything, she had a great time. She was cheering. She was saying like, that was awesome. That was great. And like, he'd be like, I don't understand why this happened. She would explain the storylines to him. So now was she a fan? Like, did she know the storylines or was she just like, are you not paying attention? Like, I figured out the storyline and you made me come to this.
00:32:44
Speaker
Yeah, he's like, there's no story with this Danielson-Osprey match. And she's like, clearly these two men just want to battle to see who's the best. And there's a level of respect, but then also a level of who can top each other. And so there's an intrigue that's sort of fundamental. It's really beyond the concept of story in the traditional sort of soap opera sense. It's really about respect and the beauty of sport.
00:33:12
Speaker
Yeah, it reminds me of the Greeks, where they would take brotherhood to the form of almost romantic love, and sometimes sexual love, but also competitive nature. The thing is- Yeah, and that tradition, the fact that they're a part of that tradition
00:33:32
Speaker
And yet, they've transcended it. I mean, really, what more could you ask for in terms of a story? And the characters are like, do you have a PhD in socratic philosophy? And she's like, oh, no, I work at a Winn-Dixie. Well, after all that, he just goes, Danielson wasn't selling enough. He said that? No, no, no, no.
00:33:57
Speaker
But what did he say about that match? What was the Facebook comment come to life? What was funny for him is after that match, just nothing. He's like, well, all right, what's next? Every match, he would just have little comments about what wasn't good about it. The nicest thing he said about that one was nothing.
00:34:18
Speaker
Um, but you weren't super off for like what his wife would say. Like it wasn't like that, that in depth, but she would be like, no, don't you remember like three weeks ago on dynamite when this happened and this happened? Like she clearly is in the room while he's watching this and is absorbing so much more of it than he is to the point that she had a great time at the show.
00:34:41
Speaker
despite how miserable her partner was. Wait. So so like we covered on the pod a few weeks ago that like sometimes you'll go to a big show with your significant other, even if you're not that into it. But he's watching the show on a weekly basis, too. Yeah. Even though he hates it. Yeah. The only thing you turn and like give her tags number, you're like, just look, hey, if this doesn't work out, when this doesn't work out, my friend here, great guy.
00:35:10
Speaker
Here you go, I'm just... I really wanted to turn and be like, hey, can you just not bring him next time? Like, just, yeah. We've got an empty seat down here, lady. You wanna join us? Yes. Come hang. You seem great. You wanna be on a podcast?
00:35:29
Speaker
Since he was directly behind me, I never actually got a good look at him. And after Ted goes, eventually I turned around and just got a look at him. He goes, do you know what he was wearing? I said, what? He goes, a CM Punk shirt. Of course. It's like the Howard Stern. Right. It's like the people that hate him watch him even more. How did how did he feel about the return?
00:35:59
Speaker
of your scapegoat. Guys, when I say that everything he said is incorrect, one of his buddies goes, I wonder if like during the Bucks match, maybe Jack Perry comes out and you know, does some sort of assist and helps them. And he goes, why would that happen? That doesn't make sense. No, Jack Perry isn't here tonight.
00:36:21
Speaker
Meanwhile, Matt wore a scapegoat shirt. And his wife is like, didn't he wear a shirt that said skate? That's Jack Perry's thing, right? I heard something when you were watching that New Japan show the other night about a scapegoat. Doesn't it connect to the two?
00:36:36
Speaker
Even she was like, no, he has to be here tonight. That's just like it makes it. I'm not joking. Like everything he said all night was wrong. And his wife would be like, I don't know. I feel like this, this, this and this. And she was right every fucking dime because she watches the show and doesn't seem to hate it. He's like that guy like he used to like watch Game of Thrones. Now there's no fucking dragons.
00:37:00
Speaker
There's not a fucking dragon in that dragon. Not going to happen. This show is never going to have dragons. You know what? You're never going to see dragons. You're never going to see that lady's tits. Next scene, her clothes burn off in fire. Sean, Sean Bean, Sean Bean, his head's staying on his shoulders. That's what's happening in this show. I'll tell you that right now. He's getting out of season one flying colors. Yeah. It's the star of the show. They'd never go on without him. Suicide.
00:37:31
Speaker
I will say, I don't think I've ever been a big Jungle Boy fan, a Jack Perry fan. I feel like he's found something and that is just a hilarious shit eating grin. The look on his face after he interfered, I was just like,
00:37:53
Speaker
I like this guy now. I think I like this guy. I I think they should ring as much. I think this is the perfect time to bring him back. And like, I don't know if it's worth the video showing, but like I'd say if you're Tony Khan, who, you know, rest in peace because he died earlier today in the ring, but, you know, milk him for everything he's worth right now, because I can't imagine a scenario where Jungle Boy will ever be this hot again.
00:38:20
Speaker
no this is the this is the moment i think this is you go for it let's do it um
00:38:26
Speaker
the crowd was very excited. And like I said, when I walked in, I was genuinely shocked at the number of scapegoat shirts I saw around the arena. Like he's selling shirts. Like people are excited for this guy again. I mean, I don't know. That was, I don't know if it was a big surprise really. I think we all kind of thought it was probably going to happen, but it didn't stop it from being still a pretty great moment.
00:38:55
Speaker
Yeah, imagine if he'd made you the merch man, Garrett. Oh, man. Like, you know, he working working with the slingshot and circle six guys, he's working with them for this store. If he made you the merch man, he does so double. Would have sold so much. Yeah, would have sold so much. And actually, you should just set you up with a table just like on the concourse, just like here's some shirts, Garrett. I'm going to I'm going to drop one of the FDR guys through this table and then you just sell the shirts.
00:39:23
Speaker
off the ground, people be throwing money at you. The shirts they were selling that night, pretty, pretty not great shirts and really expensive. Is that been the case for a while now with the arena? Yes, like the A.W. sure. I mean, they never have for years. Was it 40 or more? Yeah, like 40 was the the lowest price and then some were more. Yeah, you you know, you at this point are paying more than on pro wrestling teams or a W shop for the exact same shirts and.
00:39:53
Speaker
The shirts just aren't good. And then the event specific shirts are just the poster on a shirt usually like because that used to be the one money shot you get is the event specific merch would be pretty solid in the beginning. And then that that basically fell off since the pandemic. I legit went on that night on on the scapegoat website powered by our friends at Sling Shot House. And they I bought one of the shirts, the Crimea River goat shirt, because I was like,
00:40:21
Speaker
First of all, it's going to be far better quality than pro wrestling tees. And yeah, it's probably going to have to go away once he's back. So may as well grab it now. Um, maybe this is just going to be a weird moment, or maybe I show up to a forbidden door wearing a, uh, a crimey river shirt. I don't know. We'll see. I don't know. I'm like, I'm excited to see where, where this stuff goes with Jack Perry. Um, well, it's against ginger Mahal, right? We've already, we already covered that.
00:40:49
Speaker
That sucks. Can't be Cameron Grimes, Trevor Lee, good old grimy. Or Shad Khan. It might be a singles match with Shad Khan in a Chicago street fight. Shad's been planning this since 1996. He was like, you know.
00:41:07
Speaker
You know what happened is in 96, Shad Khan was just becoming a very wealthy man. Right. And he went to this party in Hollywood and he was so proud of himself. And then.
00:41:21
Speaker
The girl, you know, the the his family, his wife was with him and she just couldn't take her eyes at this party off of Luke Perry. He was one of the biggest stars from 90210, just captivated the room. And Shad just at that moment just goes, you know what I'm going to do one day? I'm going to beat the shit out of his kid. And if my kids got to get hurt first, so be it.
00:41:54
Speaker
He's been the puppet master of this the whole. Yeah. And that's what drove she had kind of become as rich as he became, because he was only becoming rich at that point. And then he said, I'm going to be so rich, I'm going to beat the shit out of Luke Berry's kid. And nobody's going to stop me. What can I do to become a billionaire? What can get me there? Car parts, car parts. I am going to sell car parts until I can beat the shit out of Luke Perry's kid. Here we are.
00:42:22
Speaker
Welcome. Welcome to the big time. Also, Kenny's coming back, guys. Yeah, I mean, because he's still like other reports say he still has like he's getting surgery for the divergillitis. So it sounds like he's probably just coming on to say he's going to be out for longer or he's coming back to be the like on screen baby face authority figure in place of Tony Khan.
00:42:50
Speaker
And also, here's my hope. Here's what I'm going for, Fax. He says, look, Okada, I can't wrestle you right now, but I've set a contract for you and me, full gear, Newark, New Jersey. Yes. Yeah, all of that would be good. Or he literally saw that osprey
00:43:18
Speaker
match with Danielson and like two thirds three. He's just like, fuck. And he texts Tony Khan. He's like, I'm coming back. So he's like, I thought, aren't you getting that surgery on like June 6th? He's like, fuck that. I'll die in the ring. I'm not letting me. I'm not I'm not letting Osprey get all this. I need to get one of Danielson's last matches. I can't risk this. You know what's on the table? I just just hit me. This is legitimately on the table for someone for them to do.
00:43:49
Speaker
Four-way dance. Okada. Osprey. Danielson. Omega. Just put them all four in the ring and just let's just see what happens. But I think canning too though compared to I don't really know Okada that well as a human. Osprey is a little different but like Danielson and Omega seem like they're kind of wired the same way that Danielson said basically his dream is to die in the ring.
00:44:14
Speaker
weird dream to have. That's his dream. And I think Kenny saw that and he was like, oh, that motherfucker thinks he's going to die in the ring before me. I'll show him. I already got to Verculatus. I'm halfway there. I'm wondering if it's on the table. In fact, how much? Well, I guarantee if they're like, look, here's where Okada Omega happens.
00:44:40
Speaker
Um, how much are we paying to be front row? Cause I honestly think it's four figures. I can't imagine what event it would need to be the same day as for me to not go. If it's in the United States or, you know, UK, I could probably swing Mexico, Canada. Sure. Yeah.
00:45:04
Speaker
I've already said to my wife, Ocado Omega in the United States, it doesn't matter what city, I have to be there. I can't miss that. I would skip a court date for that. You tear up the paper that the court date was on. Yeah, I'll just do it right in the middle of the ring. The judge goes, oh, perfect. You gotta make sure it's pretty zazzy, though, so it gets thrown out.
00:45:32
Speaker
Do like a Val Venus like pelvic like twist. Yeah, I can do that. Yeah. But if it's like Newark, if it's if it's somewhere we're not even traveling, I would basically just be like, just give me the give me the best ticket in the house. Yeah, it's I'm going to I'm going to punch the guy in the the whatchamacallit the Al Snow's company's T-shirt and collar and elbow. The guy that guy's always front row and it's I'm I'm punching you. I'm taking your seat.
00:46:00
Speaker
It's my now. You're going to see me on camera sitting on the dapper yappers lap like that might be the best seat. Indeed. I mean, you didn't and you didn't even put mocks in that four way. I mean, we could do some kind of like six pound challenge here. I was thinking about that. I was thinking, do you add mocks? And then who's but then who's number six? Oh, man, Swerve Swerve. I was going to say Swerve. It's where our.
00:46:30
Speaker
The world champion. And I will say that was like the one thing about that is that like so the last it was that was third to last. Right. It was Danielson.
00:46:39
Speaker
The Danielson match with Osprey. And then like they went straight into the ladder match and it was one of those things of like, OK, well, a ladder matches like a little bit of a left turn. It's a different type of match, different expectations kind of brawling. So like it wasn't like a void of like, you know, where it's like when you're a kid the day after Christmas and then all of a sudden you realize, oh, my God, it's a whole nother 364 days till Christmas again.
00:47:01
Speaker
Like I because I think that that went and I will admit by the time I got the Swerve Joe at that point, I was just kind of purely in like I was just lying in a pool of my own filth, just not even able to clean myself up or pay attention. I was just like like I was still ejaculating full full bore through the Bucks match. And then it just got down to a dribble right as Samoa Joe's music hit.
00:47:28
Speaker
And I just want to roll over and go to bed. You would just, so much had happened that like, you know, after it happens, like if somebody tries to continue doing something, like it tickles too much. I can't do it anymore, but they just kept going anyway. They just kept going. Yes. Yeah. That's, that's exactly how the, the swerve match felt on TV. How did it feel live, Gar?
00:47:50
Speaker
The crowd was like once again, I think it was a really great crowd. I feel like it's been a little bit since I've been in a crowd that was that good. I mean, I haven't been to a live or to an AEW pay per view since Forbidden Door. So I've this is an abnormally long amount of time for me to go between being at one. So I don't know. The crowd was still just really hot and
00:48:16
Speaker
I can't say I remember a ton about the match itself other than at the last bit when Swerve is getting ready to give that final stomp and you can see him start to cry because he knows he's about to win the match. That was a really great moment.
00:48:36
Speaker
I don't know. I didn't end up feeling like I thought I was going to feel that was like, this is too late. You still felt really great for the guy. And it was, the match didn't really matter. Like you needed that. And, and Samoa Joe, by the way, it's such a pros pro that literally he just takes that final move, takes the pin and then just sells for a little bit longer than just rolls out of the ring, gets right out, just like give swerve the ring. I love that. I think the moment, the moment wasn't too late. I think.
00:49:06
Speaker
The match ended up feeling a little anticlimactic just because when the way they did it by making us wait a month, I think everyone was like, look.
00:49:14
Speaker
He's winning, right? They're not going to fuck us over. This is just too obvious. And so the actual match part was fine, but it didn't hit that same level. But the moment still was like, well, and I think in time that'll help this and help his run, right? Because the last pay-per-view was very forgettable. And then this is going to be a pay-per-view we're going to remember for a long time. And him winning the big title in the main event is part of that.
00:49:37
Speaker
Even if it's not necessarily the first thing we're gonna remember, it's part of the package we're gonna remember. And I do wanna rewatch that match, because I'm also confident it was way better than I gave it credit for at the time, because again, I'm just so numb to elite wrestling at that time. No, that totally makes sense. I mean, that is...
00:49:57
Speaker
that those three moments stacked in a row is so much. And I mean, if you you open with Okada, what we had the six man that was like. And also, by the way, the the best Tony Storm match probably yet, I would say I think easily.
00:50:17
Speaker
It was good. I liked it. It was good. Yeah, I I don't know if I can off the top of my head, like remember everything that she's done in her run there. But I think that's kind of the point, right? Just like Jericho. Yeah. You get to see Chris Jericho win a title from Taz's son. By the way, on on Dynamite Day, Thunder Rosa not wearing a mask or or makeup has remained.
00:50:41
Speaker
She's no longer that character, I guess, or she is that character, but she just doesn't wear face paint anymore. By the way, and all this happened, no mocks on the show. Didn't even need him. Didn't need him. It was such a big show. They unified the trio's titles on the pre-show. On the pre-show.
00:51:04
Speaker
By the way, speaking of Mox, I was mentioning this to you, Garrett, before. I want to say when I saw Mox, when we started our green room before this, it was during the Mox match tonight and it popped into my head. What Mox currently looks like is if Goldberg and Gilbert had a baby.
00:51:26
Speaker
Like if Goldberg had to go to rehab one time, one time, it would have, yeah. That's real corny facts as corny. You can't, I couldn't, Goldberg couldn't be involved in something like that. Cause it's corny.
00:51:43
Speaker
I do need to, do you think it was weird that tonight Swerve didn't get an in-ring celebration and address the crowd. They just sent him into his first match.
00:52:00
Speaker
I think because they were doing that for Willow, because Willow needed to let Mercedes come out and make it again clear that Willow is 100% carrying the weight in that mic battle. Although probably Mercedes best promo, but that's a really low bar. It still wasn't good.
00:52:16
Speaker
And then I also kind of like it because then they're just showing like this is Swerve's house. Like this is what Swerve does. He just comes out and beats fools. I I do think I should have been sold the fuck out of that finisher. I personally still would put that as the last match.
00:52:35
Speaker
So because Tony Khan getting murdered in front of his father was the main event, the last thing on the show. But the it was Mox Will Hobbs was the last match. I probably would have given him at least the last match slot and kind of been talking about his coronation throughout the show, rather than just kind of doing it. What was the second segment, I think. Yeah, I guess the extension of the first really. Yeah, and then it went to the match. Yeah.
00:53:03
Speaker
And then, I don't know, also tonight, I had to tap out during the casino gauntlet match or whatever they were doing. It seemed really fun. Every time I walked by, something good was happening. I missed that. So I missed about 30 minutes because I started late. I was watching on the DVR. I got about an hour in and then that's when we started recording and I switched to live. So I think that was in the 30 minute block I missed.
00:53:29
Speaker
Well, at one point, you got to see Osprey fighting the Murder Hawk, which you and I saw them have a match in Dallas. Yeah, it was like kind of a fucking banger. It was maybe the best match that night. I remember when we knew that that was happening and we bought tickets to see the G1 Climax in America. It was super exciting. And then like the card only came out like a week before or something like that in Triple New Japan.
00:53:55
Speaker
And I remember being like, Ooh, we're going to be see Osprey that it was like Osprey Lance Archer. Oh, I don't want to see Osprey go against the white guy. Like I literally was like bummed out. And then we saw the match and I'm like, yeah, they're awesome. Lance Archer's awesome. Well, that looks like there's a start of the Archer run where we all were like, Hey, Lance Archer is pretty great. Yeah. There's that G1 and that match was the first one we were like, Oh yeah. Yeah. He just was like, I don't need Davey Boy Smith Jr.
00:54:24
Speaker
I'm just going to be a murder hawk. And he was right. And you know what? DBS Junior's doing OK. He's doing just OK on his own. He's no murder. Team champion in MLW, which. That and that and a nickel will get you about a third of sports. Yeah, he's had some good matches. He's become a pretty good in ring hand. I enjoy the blood sport in Japan. I think that next one he is doing the next one. It's always Santino.
00:54:56
Speaker
Really? Santino Marella is on the blood sport in Japan card, yes. Yes, as is Rampage Jackson and the guy from Battle Dome who was also an American gladiator. It's gonna be a wild show. I mean, that last Mox Barnett match was one of the best blood sport matches they've had. So getting to see them do it again in Japan, I can only imagine will be even better.
00:55:25
Speaker
Thumbs up. Chris, you should pull some strings to see if you can get camera boy duty on that. Oh, Garrett, we'll get you selling some T-shirts. I'll sling some some Diet Pepsi's. We can make this work as a unit. We are. I'll be the taco later. I'll make the tacos. Yes, very spicy. Too spicy. I can't make good Mexican quality tacos, but I feel like for Japanese tacos, I think I can hit their bar. Japanese arena tacos.
00:55:56
Speaker
I also think, you know, we, we saw something very exciting recently that a match happening in West Virginia that made me reminded me that, you know, we, we got to get to a BW three parking lot, but maybe outside in the BW three parking lot backs, you too can sell tacos from a truck or something. By the way, his, has the greatest match of all time ever been overshadowed so quickly with a match that's clearly going to be it's equal or better.
00:56:25
Speaker
Oh, who's it? I feel like we. Because, yeah, I feel like we saw this match like the day after Dynasty is when we. You're right. Yes. And of course, the match announced for the next Appalachian card is Shane Douglas and the other two guys in his franchise players group against Ming the Barbarian and Beastman. And I mean,
00:56:52
Speaker
What's ever gonna top that, guys? Yeah, I'm not gonna lie. I saw that on Instagram and I immediately was like, and I think it's in Kentucky, right? I don't think it's actually in West Virginia. I think it's in Kentucky. And I immediately was like, I checked my calendar. Can I be in Kentucky that week? Where in Kentucky? That might be pretty close to me, actually. It's the Boyd County Convention Center. Pikeville, Kentucky?
00:57:21
Speaker
Well, presumably it's on the part of Kentucky that kind of borders West Virginia, I would think. So in the east side. That is nearly a six hour drive for me. Six hours seems like nothing. What day was it again? It's like April, April 27th. That's this weekend. That's Saturday. That's Saturday. Yeah, I have Islander tickets. That's why I can't go. If I didn't have Islander tickets and it wasn't the playoffs and it wasn't likely going to be their last game of the year,
00:58:00
Speaker
I don't like wrestling. I'm going to go ahead and just say that now. I just called Fags out for it. I'm going to go ahead and tell you that's down the street. I'm on I'm on kid duty. My wife's going to be out. I'm just a big Shad Khan fan. And this is really the last chapter. Like this is now syncing up with my Shad Khan fanfic. And I just want to see this through. As soon as Shad beats the shit out of Jack Perry, I'm done with the podcast. I'm done with the show. They're probably going to cancel dynamite.
00:58:13
Speaker
I was driving to Kentucky.
00:58:30
Speaker
That's it, I'm just a shad con fan. Wait Gary, there's a clear answer here. You bring your child and you get one of those packages where they'll bring you stuff and you let your son just order soft drinks and food. Just order around some waitress at the at the OVW show. Yeah, I just let an 18 month old kid have a lot of sodas at 9 PM.
00:58:58
Speaker
Well, I feel like the if it's not at one, the Beastman show, the Appalachian show is probably near adjacent to a B.W. threes. And I got to imagine they have some good service for kids, a kids menu, one of those little sheets with the crayons that he can draw on. They got to have that at the W threes.
00:59:18
Speaker
I'm just fascinated with the idea of facts getting arrested in a Buffalo Wild Wings parking lot for selling tacos. You can't set up at our business and sell tacos. I'm looking at the Boyd County Community Center. Oh, that's like the convention center. Maybe it's the same place. It appears to be next to a cemetery in a Dollar General.
00:59:47
Speaker
So you're saying my taco thing could work. Yeah. Yeah. Or if they do shake me down, just beast man, like it's OK. He's my personal taco guy.
00:59:56
Speaker
And I'd be fine with that job, Beastman's Taco Boy. I could make Beastman tacos just follow around the country. Yeah, that's a powerful job. The only people that are mad there is the World War Two vets family that you're sitting on as tombstone as you make all of these tacos. I'm making some Asada right over Grampy.
01:00:23
Speaker
But then like beast woman starts making me like cut the carne asada with a little bit of tofu. And then that'll be our falling out is Beastman will figure it out one batch. I'll put a little too much tofu and he'll figure out then that's over.
01:00:38
Speaker
He's gonna beat your ass someday, my ass, all of our asses. If he ever listened to this, which we do have listeners out of West Virginia, so I feel like he is just sitting there with his lawyer every week listening, like, is today the day? Can we get him for this? I mean, but we love him.
01:01:01
Speaker
We do love him. He gets that, he gets that. I think he's creeped him out. He gets the rest of our love. If we say we love him enough, the judge will hear that.
01:01:12
Speaker
And if he doesn't, we'll just flamboyantly rip the contract out and really aerate our hips. You tear the contract over Chris's twerking bottom. There it is. But then, you know what, then Beastman's lawyer will set up that we have to wrestle him three on one in a cage in an ironclad contract match. And then Beastman will just beat the shit out of us. Yes. Heater, we need you to be our little guy.
01:01:45
Speaker
Peter, you have to train us not so we can win just so we can survive. Here's, here's one thing I'm curious about, about the chief its arena in, um, in beautiful St. Louis, Missouri. What's the, uh, what's the pre-party scene like? What was like, what's the buildup for the show? Like, are you, what are you hitting? Are you hitting like the bar? Is there like a fun scene out there? Any indie shows?
01:02:14
Speaker
There was an indie show. We didn't make it. It was earlier in the day. Glory Pro ran a show at the gym that they normally run out of. Yeah, I think that's Damn the Dad. I don't know if Ally Catch was on that one, but it's usually like Damn the Dad and War Horse on shows like that. It was definitely talked about, but I drove there that morning, so it just didn't time-wise work out.
01:02:38
Speaker
But as far as like where this arena is, this was my first time there. It's the, I think it's SLU's basketball arena. So it is like near a college campus. Didn't seem like there was a lot going on there. They very much did not want you tailgating in the parking garage. That was, there was a strict don't do that. Really, it seemed like the thing to do was,
01:03:04
Speaker
put on the WWE world title and stand in a big line and just wait a lot of those. So there was a guy there with six belts on six. An adult man. An adult man had the John Cena spinner belt. He had he he bought the AEW world title while he was there. He had one of the six man belts. He had
01:03:32
Speaker
What else did he have? He had like either the intercontinental, not the intercontinental. I don't I can't even keep track of a W's. Like what's the Okada has the international and what's the continental, the continental, the broadies, the international inter. Yeah, international. Yeah.
01:03:49
Speaker
Neither of you look confident in what I know. I'm confident. Okada's continental. The international one, to be fair, both of these things have changed names because it was the continental classic cup championship, which is being the continental championship. And then the international used to be the all Atlantic, all Atlantic, which made no sense at all. Why it was anything to do with Japan or. Yeah, you just named a lot of belts.
01:04:15
Speaker
And no one mentioned the goddamn leather face championship, which was actually the last title match I saw in person. And I can't believe title to me, it is. Jeff Jarrett isn't defending that shit at all. I haven't seen him in so long. Yeah, he's apparently putting on a big show in Mexico and he's not even wrestling in it.
01:04:40
Speaker
Have you not seen this in honor? I see. I thought he was involved with the is involved with AAA. He's involved with AAA and he's like their manager, but he's also apparently like actually coordinating all the Americans because they're doing this big AAA show with a bunch of Americans. And like it sounds like essentially Jeff Jarrett is like the American general manager kind of thing. So I think he's kind of like helping promote it and helping book the guys.
01:05:09
Speaker
but it's weird because he's not working the show. Is Satnam Singh backing him up? Satnam Singh is in the match. So in the main event match is Satnam Singh and somebody else who is not an AEW guy with Jeff Jarrett in their corner. Do you think maybe Satnam is the replacement for Shad Khan? Satnam beats up
01:05:38
Speaker
Jack dead, the Perry son. I do think gender might be a better worker than him. Okay. Do you I think it's pretty insane that they haven't made him relinquish that title though. Like that could have easily gone on Jericho instead of the FTW title. Jericho is gonna Jericho is gonna combine them.
01:06:03
Speaker
It's going to be he's going to be a double belt man with the leather face and the FTW child. Well, we know Tony Khan loves titles too much to merge them, right? Like we've been this trios thing, the bowl, not the Bullet Club. The Bang Bang Gang came out tonight with both belts, making it very clear we're holding both six. Yeah, all six belts. And again, Eddie won the triple crown, lost each of those titles individually. Right. Like even if Jericho won the leather face,
01:06:30
Speaker
It still would not be merged with the FTW, even though they're both unofficial belts, unofficial, official. I don't know where the leather face belt goes. Jericho's going to find the all Atlantic title on a garbage too. He's going to be a triple crown champion. He's just going to be a does the leather belt collector.
01:06:48
Speaker
Does the Leatherface Belt have a Wikipedia page? We can look up the history on it. Oh my god. I can't wait until another video game sponsors so we get like Kirby's Dream World 2 title or something.
01:07:04
Speaker
Um, well, there's a couple things. I mean, are we done with the, this pay-per-view? Like it was, there's probably a lot more we could have talked about more seriously, like even have a ladder match. Chris, you text me something during it that, uh, I, I noticed while it was happening. This match is super violent and not in the normal way that a ladder match is. It's, it's not as many big spots as just pure violence. That was great.
01:07:30
Speaker
Yeah. Which I think was a smart move following Osprey Danielson, right? I think that was the smart move. Yeah. Well, I've also felt like they kind of split the difference between an FTR match and a Bucks match in a kind of a nice way of like, we are going to do some big spots, like the big Bucks ladder matches, but it is also going to be more of a fight in the way that an FTR type match would be. Yeah. And so I thought, I thought it worked really nicely in that it was a different kind of ladder match. It wasn't
01:07:58
Speaker
was an all-time classic but I loved it a lot it was great it was fun yeah it was hard to again it was hard to follow the uh one of the greatest matches of all time but I thought all things considered that did a pretty good job yeah they did there could have been a million things worse to follow that match and that was not one of them it just
01:08:19
Speaker
Not quite as good as that, but different and fun. You know, didn't drop the energy of the room. I know we're coming into our last, you know, like 10 minutes or so here. I do want to bring up, I have tested out a couple wrestling adjacent products that I feel it's important to bring up on the show. You know, The Rock has a men's care line now sold at Target, Papatouille.
01:08:46
Speaker
and I have now tried their body wash and one of the deodorants. I'm normally a native deodorant man. I think it's a little pricey and I saw the rocks was basically the same thing. I can't have aluminum in mine. Alzheimer's runs in my family. So I try and do the aluminum free and for like an $8 stick of deodorant, pretty good, smelling good, keeping me dry. I like it. I also do the aluminum free so I gotta check it out.
01:09:16
Speaker
Yeah, it's a it's a very reasonably priced stick of deodorant and it smells nice. And the body wash, I think I went sandalwood on both of them. Both are nice, but I actually like noticed the way I smell. Now, does it have like a rock name? Is it like, do you sandalwood with the rock is cooking or something?
01:09:43
Speaker
Nothing is very rock about it. His name isn't on the packaging anywhere. My wife actually had a hard time, she was going to Target and I asked her to pick it up for me. She had a hard time finding it. She figured there was gonna be like an end cap with a giant Dwayne picture that was going to lead her directly to it, but it was just with everything else. Hmm. I feel like The Rock at this point could do his own gift baskets. You could just be like,
01:10:11
Speaker
I need, I need some Dwayne Johnson and my friend, that's what my friend needs. And so you just, you send away for the box and there's like tequila, an energy drink, some body wash, a Hobbs and Shaw DVD, some XFL tickets.
01:10:36
Speaker
This basket is valued at $150, but we'll give it to you today for the low, low price of $69.99. It's a bargain. It's a bargain. You know, if I stayed at an Airbnb and that was in the welcome basket, I'd be pretty, I'd be pretty stoked, right? Yeah.
01:11:01
Speaker
I was just at a Target looking at the other things he had. I didn't see a shampoo, which makes sense because, you know, a hairless man selling shampoo just seems fucking stupid. But he did sell tattoo creams. Sensible. It does have some rather large tattoos. And if you're going to Target to buy a tattoo cream, why wouldn't you buy the one that's next to a photo of The Rock?
01:11:25
Speaker
I feel like there's lots of people that have gone to Target looking for the rocks tattoo cream for years and just leave with no tattoo because nothing else will do. And now that it's there, those people are now making transactions. Yeah. It's helping the economy. Indeed. All of that Meltzer postage money that's going away. We're getting through sales tax from these purchases that are being made. It's such good tattoo cream that Cody just had to buy it.
01:11:54
Speaker
Cody was just like, you know, the only thing that keeps my neck feeling good is the rocks tattoo cream. He did whip me with a belt, but it's okay. That's what the rock handed him in that match after they talked. He handed him a little container of the tattoo cream and now they're good. Yeah. Now Cody's like, I need this. This, I, yeah, this feels so much better now.
01:12:17
Speaker
the other wrestling adjacent product, new flavor boys. Ooh, Prime, strawberry banana? That sounds kinda gross. I thought so too, because artificial banana flavor, never good. Never good. This tasted like I was drinking strawberry banana. I actually thought this was pretty pleasant. Once again, this man can do no wrong. He can do no wrong. There are people alleging things about Prime
01:12:48
Speaker
I don't know how I came across this today, but people are saying Prime might do some things. I'm not going to mention on air what they might suggest it does, because that would be slanderous, and we don't slander Logan Paul, unless there's good evidence of this. I mean, did I get colon cancer immediately after drinking Prime for the first time? Yes, I did. Did my spleen not get huge right after months of just butt chugging Prime?
01:13:18
Speaker
But you know what? Sometimes you got to, you know, to make an omelet, you got to crack a few eggs. You've got to risk it. Hypothetically, there may be a class action for you both to join. Are you fucking kidding me? No, tell me, what am I drinking in here is that's that's bad for me and it's not the energy drink. You're selling me the hydration drink has something that is giving me cancer. Just tell me one thing. Did the article use the word Auschwitz?
01:13:46
Speaker
Cause that's a bad sign. Apparently one of the flavors, I think it's grape, which I have not actually seen. Thankfully I've had great. I don't think I've ever had. It may have something called forever chemicals. Oh, I know what those are. Bully Wonka uses those. I think what? Yeah. It makes you float or something. Kids all got out of that happy, right?
01:14:10
Speaker
What is it just like microplastics that live in my semen and like my kid turns out half action figure? Like what happens? I think so. I don't know. They haven't studied this yet. You know.
01:14:28
Speaker
Forever Chemical, like it's it has a great publicist. I'll tell you that. Great name. Great name. Solid name. Strong name. Chemical. Forever Chemicals sound like they've been TNA tag champs at least twice. That sounds like it honestly sounds like a Trump product. Forever Chemicals. It's great. Wonderful. I mean, if Trump gets back in the White House, maybe he'll make
01:14:55
Speaker
Logan Paul like secretary of agriculture and just all of our plants will be watered with prime with forever chemicals. It's oh my god yeah this it works as a pesticide and it makes you feel good.
01:15:14
Speaker
They're gonna be bad for us, but the vegetables taste delicious. Listen, whatever bad is in prime, don't tell Garrett, because he's already hopelessly addicted to it. So it's just better he doesn't know at this point, because rehab is expensive. He's got a kid. He's just gonna be addicted to it the rest of his life. It's fine. I was trying to avoid it, Fax, and then you directly guessed it, and I just could not keep a straight face. Yeah.
01:15:45
Speaker
Is that really it? It's just it's like something that makes me addicted to drinking this shit. That probably too. They haven't. They haven't found a lot. There's no lawsuit about that yet. But I mean, it's definitely you're definitely addicted, Garrett. Let's. You just know you're just going to be this pretty forever, Garrett. It's forever chemicals. Yeah, that's fine. You'll never go gray forever. Here's the feeling good all the time, boys. You know, we hit the prime talk. We haven't had a good prime talk on here in a while. So yeah, we got it.
01:16:16
Speaker
All right, everybody. Thanks for listening. We need to get Heater on here to tell us about Japan. Yeah. We'll be in touch with him. Well, thanks for listening. And whether Necker Butcher's going to be okay. Well, did something happen? Oh, he broke something real bad. Did you see it? No, it's just the internet said.
01:16:40
Speaker
All right. Facts is out of here. He doesn't have a cord. Uh, let's, let's, uh, let's just say our, say our farewells. Thanks for listening. Uh, follow us on all those things. I normally say hit our goddamn music.