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Lost In The 48 - Our Short Film Experience
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On todays episode of Lost In The Frame, a discussion on our experience thus far as filmmakers.
Callback Short Film: https://youtu.be/b_hjzs9tHOk?si=FKcSkdozM0sz2Pma
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Transcript
Podcast Introduction and Host Update
00:00:15
Speaker
Welcome back to Lost in the Frame. My name is Malik and I am your host today. um As you know, Alex recently had surgery and unfortunately he is still with us.
00:00:30
Speaker
I made a complete recovery. he's He's doing all right. he Doctors didn't think he that he was going to pull through, but he's a strong boy. Our listeners' ears are screaming right now. They thought they were rid of me.
00:00:45
Speaker
But no luck. My mom actually gave you a compliment as well. She says that you
Star Wars Trivia and Fan Interaction
00:00:51
Speaker
are very knowledgeable and specifically noted the Star Wars episode when you made the comment on the the question about Yoda's full name or origins or something like that.
00:01:02
Speaker
And you pulled out some like trivia about Yoda. some coin released somewhere that had it. And she was like, how does he know these things? And I was like, mom, I don't know. so do you want me to, um, you want me to, uh, show you how the sausage was made behind that one? Or do you want to let the viewers live in whatever fantasy about my star Wars knowledge that they have?
00:01:30
Speaker
Let's keep the mystery. All right. don um I didn't cheat. I did not cheat. um But I actually learned that one that day. Like the day we filmed it, like two hours before I learned that.
00:01:43
Speaker
I love how you we said don't don't show how the sausages are made, and then you just did anyway. but No, no, i I'm not going to tell you what I did how I learned it. I'm just, I'm just because someone's, we got a lot of talkative people in the comments and they love it to say things and um I don't want any cheating accusations. Our fan
Fan Mail and Community Naming
00:02:04
Speaker
mail is ah is a nice place.
00:02:06
Speaker
Fan Mal is a nice place. Speaking of, we got some very nice messages in the last couple weeks. We're recording a couple weeks late. It's been a crazy month.
00:02:17
Speaker
The date right now is May 28th, but still wanted to give a shout out to a couple of people. First shout out we wanted to give today was from Chrisantha, who sent us a very nice Instagram message.
00:02:28
Speaker
Didn't know how to address us, so I think that's something that we can discuss. Are we the lost boys, the lost men, the lost trio? That was how she opened the message, and I said, good question.
00:02:40
Speaker
I mean, as a fan of the 80s movie, The Lost Boys, i kind of like that one, you know? the only The only thing I have with The Lost Boys is that is the name of our group chat at work, is The Lost Boys, specifically for that movie.
00:02:55
Speaker
so it Sounds like you can change that. It feels like they're bleeding into each other, but I mean, i do like the i do like the sound of Lost Boys. so It goes hard, you know? And we are missing
Celebrating Tachi's Marriage
00:03:06
Speaker
one lost boy today, Tachi.
00:03:09
Speaker
Yeah. Tachi, congratulations to him and Julie, but he recently got married.
00:03:19
Speaker
i don't know if the claps are coming through on the mic, but yeah, so it's just me and Alex today, but we're very happy for Tachi, for team money. um So congrats to both of them. it was a very beautiful wedding and and i love the dude.
00:03:32
Speaker
I know. Congrats, Tachi. So stoked for him and we'll get the play-by-play of how it all went down when he returns next episode. Yes. Yes. Um, yeah. So back to the, yeah. So thank you for the nice message, Chrysantha.
00:03:46
Speaker
Thank you for listening. Hope you keep listening. Um, very much appreciated. It made our day. Agreed. I mean, I got all the warm fuzzies, uh, reading that one when it was sent in, um like the shout out, uh,
00:04:01
Speaker
Good friend of ours that we know from back in the day, Mackenzie ah W. from Austin. we too You're too shy to to let it know that you're listening, but a friend of a friend in in Plano, Texas, told me that you are a big fan of the show, so we wanted to shout you out as well.
00:04:21
Speaker
um We did get another bit of fan mail, and... um I feel like we need to address everything that comes through you know for um for transparency for the viewers.
00:04:36
Speaker
yeah And so this one comes from Anonymous, from an anonymous location. And this one was specifically referencing um my choice for misunderstood movie from our second draft.
00:04:50
Speaker
um And they said, when I was a kid, i used to read Alvin and the Chipmunks fan fiction.
00:04:58
Speaker
What does that consist of? So I pressed on that. I asked our listener, I said, what does that mean? And at first they didn't want to tell. um But then they let it slip that ah they liked the idea of the chipmunks having male and female counterparts.
00:05:23
Speaker
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:05:27
Speaker
and And where does that go? I don't want to Google it.
00:05:34
Speaker
This is a family friendly show. So we're gonna we're going to leave that to your imagination. I don't say we're family friendly, but we're definitely not going into towards' on that territory. we're not We're not going down that road.
00:05:49
Speaker
Maybe after this beer, if I'm brave enough, I'll look up Alvin and the Chipmunk fanfic. Actually, now that I said it out loud, I think I'm okay. Don't need to hear any of that.
00:06:00
Speaker
um Awesome. Well, yeah. Thank you guys so much for listening. um If you are enjoying what you are hearing in your speakers, feel free to send us a message on Instagram or leave a comment on Spotify, wherever you listen to it.
00:06:13
Speaker
It is always much appreciated. And if you don't also send it to us because we'll have a lot of fun reading it on air. That's true. Yeah. We will read every single thing. Nice message to that we get.
00:06:26
Speaker
Or mean. Or mean. Or if you want to say that Alex just has a dashingly handsome voice, you can do that too. When do you think we'll get our first, like, think we'll get hate mail?
00:06:37
Speaker
Oh, as soon as someone listens to this, someone's going to say something awful in it. But I want it to be, like, genuine. Genuine hate? Yeah, like, I think once we get, like, genuine hate, I'll be like, okay, I think we're doing all right.
00:06:48
Speaker
ah We need to start throwing out some like really spicy takes. We do. Or we need to go after like a very specific fandom that yeah really hates just people who hate it.
00:06:59
Speaker
I mean, we're very early into this, but this is episode seven, I believe. So we're not even in in the double digits yet. We're babies. I feel like, though, if we were to criticize... like I don't know, Nicki Minaj, the Nicki Minaj stans would find us. Well, I think it's going to have to be more like in line of the niche that we typically discuss being movies. I don't think Nicki min that minash nicki Minaj fans are going to be tuning into Lost in the Frame, but they should.
00:07:28
Speaker
They should. We we accept everybody. We do. Except Swifties. We're getting hate. I know there's some Swifties who listen, so we're going to get some angry ones. Let's go. Let's go. um Yeah, let's get into some of the results of our predictions from our last episode.
00:07:44
Speaker
So
Cannes Predictions and Film Reviews
00:07:45
Speaker
if you listen to, i believe it was episode six, the Cannes Film Festival what was about to happen. And so what we went ahead and did as a podcast was give a couple of our predictions for what would be coming out of the Cannes Film Festival.
00:07:58
Speaker
And that just wrapped up, I think, about a few days ago. And we didn't do too bad. We hit a couple of our of our predictions. So i'm I'm thinking that we need to get some lottery tickets here pretty soon.
00:08:11
Speaker
Yeah, I agree. um We ah could also be meteorologists if we want to you have a different kind of career path. Yeah. i have I have a favorite meteorologist. His name is Avery Tomasco, local Austin weatherman. I follow him on Twitter, and I listen to every word he says.
00:08:30
Speaker
Is he correct often? Yeah. Great dude. Avery, you're sick.
00:08:39
Speaker
Shout out to Avery. We're just giving lots of love today. Yeah. Yeah. I, so for my predictions, I was proud of it, but I'm also like, I think this was like a given yours. I think are really on point.
00:08:53
Speaker
Let's start with yours. All right. um So if you guys don't remember, our we did one normal take. We did one spicy take. And so my normal take was the Zootopia 2 trailer was going to get announced. And my spicy take was that um the reviews for Eddington coming out of Cannes would be bad.
00:09:15
Speaker
And we got a Zootopia 2 trailer, which was interesting. It didn't really, you know show a lot of the plot which i kind of liked um i feel like going into it blind will be a lot of fun um i mean it's utopia it's not like you know i need to be wowed by some deep story but edit ah eddington the reviews for that were pretty bad um and i couldn't even say mixed i yeah can't even say mixed so
00:09:49
Speaker
con's kind of goofy in the way they do scoring it's out of four um and as far as i can tell from looking over one of the scorecards which is on screen daily so i don't know how reliable it is but this was this has eddington as one of the bottom three o yeah um
00:10:16
Speaker
Yeah, at a 1.5 out of four. The only things down there with it were Alpha, directed by Julia Ducournau, which I might have butchered. and what did know what is what is she direct before? That name sounds familiar.
00:10:34
Speaker
um Looked it up while i butchered this next name. um The last one, so the worst movie from Khan, was apparently Mario Martone's Flory, which got a 1.1.
00:10:47
Speaker
Alpha got a 1.5, but the thing with this score is the movie that won... which was Jafar Panahi's, it was just an accident, only got a 3.1. So not that far off each other, but i didn't really hear much good coming out of any Eddington screening except for um just diehard Ari Aster fans.
00:11:19
Speaker
And so for the film that won the Palm Dior, I believe that one is going to be distributed by Neon, if I'm not mistaken. And that makes Neon's seventh Palm Dior in a row.
00:11:31
Speaker
Yeah, Neon, they bought like four of the five or six top like contenders in con during con before it was released. I mean, they they know how to pick them.
00:11:44
Speaker
Neon's been on one. They're... They're kingmakers at this point. I mean, they're they're a 24 now. they They've taken the crown. I actually I'm going to say they've taken the crown. They they do what a 24 did.
00:12:00
Speaker
You know, who's also coming up that I think we're going to have a lot more conversations on what movie
00:12:08
Speaker
movies making some crazy moves. I agree. They bought a couple from Khan I saw as well. I don't remember which ones they bought. But I remember that they were really interesting picks and they they had a lot of good reception coming out of them.
00:12:20
Speaker
But Mubi did have some so success last year with The Substance. Dude, I'm here for it. um I'd love... I know they would never ever do it because it's just not their thing.
00:12:32
Speaker
But i imagine a Criterion original. Would be sick. Them backing and distributing something. That would be crazy. They would never do it. um We should have asked them about that when we were in line. That would have been really good. that That's a good question.
00:12:46
Speaker
um Julia DeCarno, to get back to that, with the lowest score of Alpha, directed Raw and 2021's Teton. ah Have you seen those?
00:12:56
Speaker
No, I have not, but i really need to see Teton. I saw Teton. I didn't love it. I actually... That was the first time... i like but i didn't even attend this film festival. Just one of my buddies had a ah ah press badge and he had an extra seat and he invited me. It was at the... I'm forgetting the name of the festival that happens here in October, but...
00:13:17
Speaker
Oh, um Fantastic Fest. Fantastic Fest. Yeah. yeah fantastic So I saw that at Fantastic
Exploring Julia Ducournau's Films
00:13:23
Speaker
Fest a few years ago and actually got to see Julia do a Q&A after, um which was pretty cool. But that was my first exposure to her. I didn't love the movie.
00:13:32
Speaker
I haven't seen it since then, but I would be down to rewatch it. And I know a lot of people kind of ride for Raw. So um I would need to check that one out as well.
00:13:43
Speaker
Yeah. Malik, why don't you tell us about your picks yeah for your predictions? Yeah. So I, before we started with our predictions, I was saying that these were con predictions.
00:13:56
Speaker
I think just a couple of them were coming out of con, but this was just general movie news predictions that we thought was going to happen over the next couple weeks. So just wanted to make that clear, but my, we don't do any prep for any of these episodes. No, we don't.
00:14:09
Speaker
Um, just off the cuff. Cause we're awesome. The one that I did not get was I predicted that Minecraft 2 would be announced. And I think it's a good thing that it hasn't.
00:14:21
Speaker
But one day it will. But it didn't happen in the last week or so. My second one, which did come true. I predicted for Mission Impossible The Final Reckoning to receive a 7 to 12 minute standing ovation at con.
00:14:35
Speaker
And it in fact received a 7 and a half minute standing ovation.
00:14:42
Speaker
That's crazy. Did it need seven and a half minutes? I don't know. We'll talk about that in our Mission Impossible episode. I will say, between when I got my surgery and now, I watched all seven of them, and I watched three with anesthesia watched one through three with anesthesia brain.
00:15:03
Speaker
i don't remember... anything that happened in one through three like i remember it but i couldn't tell you where which movie began and which one ended i need you to re-watch three at least what give me your okay yeah so i i definitely wanted discuss i mean i i remember them but like it's fuzzy It's fuzzy.
00:15:27
Speaker
Yeah. because So give me your general opinion thus far of the Mission and Impossible series because I also just got done rewatching them and then saw Final Reckoning in theaters just a couple days ago.
00:15:40
Speaker
So. I like them. Okay. I definitely enjoyed ah more from bro ah from Ghost Protocol on. um Yeah. Yeah.
00:15:54
Speaker
I did enjoy one through three. i think one is the. gonna say it's the lamest. um I think it it's obviously like, you know, really cool.
00:16:06
Speaker
And the scene where he's rappelling into the server room is awesome. I mean, just such an incredible sequence. But. i just feel like it had the least amount of sauce.
00:16:19
Speaker
That's crazy. I disagree. i feel like two had a ton of sauce. That's insane. But I think three... We're the opposite. I think one was better than two, but it My personal opinion is they aren't as far apart as people make.
00:16:36
Speaker
I think, real quick, I think 2 does have sauce. i want to, real quick, there is not a bad Mission Impossible movie. There is just least best and as best best, but I truly don't think there's a single bad Mission Impossible movie, so...
00:16:51
Speaker
All rankings are relatively correct, whatever they are. Two, does have sauce. I just think, narratively, it's messy. One, I see your point in saying that it's lame. I just think it's a product, a heavy product of the 90s.
00:17:07
Speaker
But I think one has more sauce than two. Lame isn't... the right word vanilla, I would say. Okay. It's, it's the most normal of them.
00:17:18
Speaker
And I think those movies are at their best when they're being ridiculous. and i just don't think they knew yet like you can even like for one and two and even part of three i would say mainly one and two ethan hunt doesn't feel like ethan that we know and i think that's just in hindsight being able to look back at three four five six seven eight now and seeing him kind of be a little more fleshed out as a character going back and re-watching one and two it's like this like who is this guy like that it just wasn't there yet Like one felt too much like it was trying to carve into the James Bond. And we can talk about this more in like an actual Mission Impossible episode, which we will have coming.
00:17:54
Speaker
Yeah. um And you will probably hear this same exact argument. In that episode. Yep. I felt like one felt like it was trying too much to be like ah a derivative of a James Bond movie.
00:18:08
Speaker
Whereas it hadn't found its footing as its own ah franchise and series yet. And it I think it took them probably until three to to get to that point. But two, I'll hold my opinions on two until we get to ah the actual episode. because we do have Tachi's predictions to talk about.
00:18:24
Speaker
Yeah, we... And I could keep talking about this. Yeah, we'll we'll we'll save it. I still haven't seen the final reckoning, so that's why I'm saying hold this convo. Okay, so once you see the final reckoning, we can kind of have a deep dive on Mission Impossible.
00:18:39
Speaker
Yep. I guess Tachi needs to see it too. He is still a part of this podcast, even though he's not here us. We're not writing him out. No, it's just it's just this episode.
00:18:50
Speaker
Well, maybe when he goes on his honeymoon, we'll have to... True. True. To be continued there. Man, now
Alex's Movie Marathon During Recovery
00:18:57
Speaker
I just want to talk about Mission Impossible. I've been Mission Impossible pilled for the last like three weeks. See, that was the problem with bringing up the movies I watched when I was down horrendous. Did you watch anything else other than... did. i did. What'd you get?
00:19:10
Speaker
um I watched two Godzilla movies. I watched... Sick. The Return of Godzilla, which came out in 1984. Okay.
00:19:22
Speaker
okay um And then the direct sequel to it, Godzilla vs. Biollante, which was 1989. These are the Hisei era Godzilla films. um They're pretty sick.
00:19:34
Speaker
Biollante, I mean, we got to have a Godzilla episode at some point, too. I think I said that. Yeah, that'd fine. The Mission Impossibles. I watched ah The Swimming Pool with Alain Delon. Classic French movie.
00:19:47
Speaker
ah Dennis Hopper's Easy Rider. So another classic. Checked off the list. And ah Meet Joe Black with Brad Pitt. And then one of Penelope Cruz's first movies, Homon, Homon.
00:19:58
Speaker
Oh, nice. How was that one? I didn't think it was very good at all. It was really weird. And not in like a good way. He didn't watch Quigley in Angelic Tale.
00:20:11
Speaker
No.
00:20:16
Speaker
Um... We... We're gonna cover Quigley at some point. I just know we are, but we'll talk about it. We won't leave the people hanging. Um... Quigley
The Quirky Film 'Quigley' Discussion
00:20:30
Speaker
was a movie that I discovered on Twitter and sent our internal group chat.
00:20:38
Speaker
And, um... Came out in 2003 and it's ah stars Gary Busey and Osgood Perkins who directed Long Legs. And it's about a um guy who turns into a dog.
00:20:56
Speaker
And the guy is Gary Busey and the dog is like a Pomeranian. With tie. And it just it just looks like one of those movies from like the early 2000s. Like Jack Frostcore.
00:21:08
Speaker
there is i own a movie like this that i got from that mystery 30 30 box uh dvds that was sent to me and it was i think i told you about it was called soccer dog just about a dog who played soccer they try i think they tried to ride the air bud wave and i watched the first 15 minutes maybe couldn't do it i still have it though maybe one day i will we uh we We got to do something with those kinds of movies. I feel like the people would love hearing us. We talked about maybe just going to Half Price Books and doing that, like just a randomizer. Like while we're there, we each pick a movie and then we have to talk about each of those movies.
00:21:45
Speaker
Well, we should like all watch them together. we do like ah like a like a movie marathon one day and just probably hate our lives. Yeah.
00:22:01
Speaker
Anyway, Tachi made some picks. um His normal pick was that Ironheart was going to get announced, and he hit on that. And I would say... i think that's a good one, because...
00:22:15
Speaker
We've known about this Ironheart show for a while now. And they're up to this point. When does the show come out? I think soon, like in the next couple months. I think over the summer. Yeah. And up until a couple months ago, like crickets from Marvel, like zero marketing from them.
00:22:30
Speaker
Like they are not pushing this like at all, which is kind of weird Yeah. feel like it might have something to do with Thunderbolts not hitting in the box office like they thought. Which is such a shame.
00:22:45
Speaker
It sucks, dude. Thunderbolts was good. Yeah. And deserved love. And you, everyone, the general public, didn't give it any love. Not you, Malik. I know you loved it. know.
00:22:58
Speaker
Lilo and Stitch made more than Thunderbolts did in its opening day. Dude. And that movie apparently ended with Nani giving Lilo to the state. Yeah.
00:23:09
Speaker
So that she can go to college in California. What are we doing? What's happening? Although honestly, having that piece of knowledge get leaked did more for me to want to go see that movie than anything else.
00:23:23
Speaker
Because I was like, I need to know if this is true. Damn. I need to i need to see Nani give Lilo to the state. I want to watch Disney do that.
00:23:34
Speaker
Like, and just see how they go about doing that and make it, like, family friendly. Like, I don't, I, man, I have to agree with you. Now I want to see it as well.
00:23:47
Speaker
That's awful. What? It's dire out there. It's it's really dire. um But the good news is that Tachi spicy take didn't come true because his dire spicy take was that Timothee Chalamet was going to attack the set of the Odyssey.
00:24:04
Speaker
And now Timmy didn't commit terrorism, but we did learn that he's a Knicks fan. he's This dude is channeling Jack Nicholson in these pictures I'm seeing of him courtside.
00:24:16
Speaker
The way his hair is, the clothes that he's wearing, the little gold chain, the glasses. like He knows ball. Dude, Timmy knows ball, and it's crazy. I mean, people were saying when he did that college football game day thing. Yeah.
00:24:32
Speaker
And it was like, oh, this is just promotion. It's a stunt. He lives the ball life. Dude knew what he was talking about. this whole His whole press tour for A Complete Unknown was such a joy to watch.
00:24:45
Speaker
like I loved it. It might be my favorite press tour I've seen like and paid attention to since I started paying attention to this stuff. I agree. like I didn't think he should win.
00:24:58
Speaker
I wanted him to win. i wanted him to i wanted him to win just because it had been such a fun ride. Just because he knew ball. Just because he knew ball. I don't even know ball, and I'm impressed. he he um He was talking about which quarterbacks in the MAAC were the best. like I don't even think Nick Saban knew who those guys were, and Timmy's bringing it up. I mean, he deserved that that little gold statue.
00:25:21
Speaker
I want to have a beer with him so bad. I'm manifesting that one day i will have a beer with Timothee Chalamet. Well, I mean, when he's a guest star on Lost in the Frame. Exactly. We'll have a beer with him.
00:25:32
Speaker
yeah Episode 12. Timothy Chalamet is our guest. First guest. Dude, that'd be insane. Could you imagine? I would love to see, like, personally, the chain of events that it would take for us to get him on this show by episode 12.
00:25:49
Speaker
What is that? Five weeks? July? Yeah, what would have to happen between now and then for us to get Timmy on the Knicks have to win the championship. He's got to be in a really good mood.
00:26:00
Speaker
We have to find him, bring it up at the height of his good mood, lock him in for later that night, and make it happen. Unfortunately, the Knicks might get bounced.
00:26:12
Speaker
What's going on here? I think they're down three to one in the Eastern conference finals. I don't follow basketball, but I was following it because i will be going to New York in a couple of days.
00:26:23
Speaker
And I have seen the videos and the pictures of Madison square garden and all the people after ah few of the, uh, games at the next one in the last few weeks. And it just looked crazy. So I was keeping up with the Eastern conference or whatever. I don't know anything about basketball just to see and hope that the Knicks would lose. So I don't have to deal with that amount of people in that small of a space at at some point. Unfortunately, there is a chance that the city could burn down when you're landing.
00:26:53
Speaker
ah so no matter what i might be screwed whether they take it or they lose maybe you should look up what happened to vancouver after they lost the stanley cup wait really yeah they burned down the city not really but like there was like an actual riot and i've seen cars and like in flames from victories and losses yeah it's crazy and okay maybe i hope it just continues for a while wait wait Wait until we're out of there.
00:27:26
Speaker
they They start adding games to the series. Yeah. Yeah, the the Pacers are leading 3-1. They play again on my birthday tomorrow tomorrow night. Oh, tomorrow night? Tomorrow night. Okay, if they can play tomorrow night, lose, they can get all the steam out Friday, I show up Saturday, and we'll be good.
00:27:46
Speaker
And we'll be okay. That might Yeah. That might work. Yeah. Cool. So those are, that was our prediction. So I think we did pretty good. I mean, we were batting, we all at least got one right.
00:27:57
Speaker
Yeah. So we were batting over 50%. Not bad.
00:28:04
Speaker
Not bad at all. you ah We have a better chance of predicting movie news than you getting heads when you flip a coin. I like, I like the way you think.
00:28:16
Speaker
You want to tell us about the Rizzlers top four? I do want to talk about the Rizzlers top four. Um, so this is, I think the biggest movie news of probably the year.
00:28:28
Speaker
Um, the Rizzler, the Rizz God, uh, the Rizz King himself announced his letterboxd top four.
00:28:42
Speaker
I mean, where do we even begin with, uh, With the Rizzler. I mean, he's just. I love the Rizzler. I love him, too. It's he's so funny.
00:28:53
Speaker
I think he genuinely is funny. Yeah. um And every time he comes on my feed, i just get a little bit of a smile.
00:29:04
Speaker
But the best part about it is I actually really enjoy his top four.
00:29:09
Speaker
Cause he had, so he had Thunderbolts, which is kind of recency bias, but it makes sense considering he met, uh, Julie Lewis Dreyfuss on the carpet.
00:29:20
Speaker
That woman had no no she was no idea. She had no idea who she, who, uh, the Rizzler was, but, um, I mean, he had a blast and he was saying hi to everybody and, you know, I can see just a kid forever loving that.
00:29:33
Speaker
Um, ah The DC League of Super Pets, which I've never seen. i mean, that just makes sense. Every kid loves that one random animated animal movie.
00:29:45
Speaker
um We had The Goonies, which I feel like i feel like that tracks. yeah i feel like I feel like The Goonies is a very Rizzler core movie. um And then the last pick was Robert Pattinson's The Batman Goat.
00:30:09
Speaker
I think I, the Rizzler knows Keno. Rizzler knows ball. He knows ball. He knows ball.
00:30:19
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If Letterboxd came up to you and asked for your top four, would you pick the top four that you currently have on your profile? Or would you kind of go off the cuff and do a little something different?
00:30:31
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I feel like I would panic and try and make myself seem more cooler than I am. And make myself look ridiculous.
00:30:40
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i Whenever they post a TikTok of it and someone... They ask their top four and they do anything that's not like American cinema. All the comments are just like, uh, what pretentious blah, blah, blah. And I'm just, that shit's so annoying. Or the, or whenever they do the opposite and they see someone put like Shrek and things that are like well-liked, everyone's just like, finally someone that's not pretentious and giving us the real stuff.
00:31:08
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I'm like, both can be true. You guys are just going to go nuts when I say Tokyo Drift four times. Tokyo Drift. Tokyo Drift.
00:31:19
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Too Fast, Too Furious. And Tokyo Drift. And Tokyo Drift. I have to do that one.
00:31:27
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that That last one's the pick for me. From the heart. From the heart. What else happened in movie news? Ah, Superman trailer, Ironheart trailer.
00:31:38
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How are you feeling about Superman? I didn't watch the new Superman trailer. I'm excited. As a DC fan, I'm excited. I also did not watch the Ironheart trailer. Here I am complaining that Marvel's not marketing it. i'm not even watching what they put out.
00:31:52
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Yeah, it sounds like a skill issue. Did you watch it? No. But I also didn't complain about people not watching it. I barely complained. That was like 10 minutes ago. i can people can change Um, and then there's been a lot of early react, or I guess not early reactions because the movie's out now. Would you c call it, would you categorize that as an early reaction for final? Early reactions. It's early into the run, early reactions.
00:32:15
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I mean, it seems like people are loving it. It's, I wouldn't say mixed.
00:32:23
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I don't know. i I feel like what I've seen from reactions so far is it's not as high as one would have expected. Yeah, I think... like i I don't want to say I was disappointed in the movie. I did enjoy the movie.
00:32:40
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But... I mean, the expectations were were a little high. And the Mission Impossible movies aren't really known for their narrative prowess, I would say.
00:32:53
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um so i mean, just taking into account that they typically don't have a script when they start shooting these things. All they have is a couple of stunts that they want to do and kind of build a script and story around that.
00:33:06
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And I just feel like for the last couple and then look at us, we're getting into Mission Impossible again. I just feel like for the last couple, that was apparent and you can see that. But at the end of the day, I'm still watching Tom Cruise do crazy stunts and i have a good time.
00:33:20
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And I haven't seen it, so I have no comment. So we're going to move on. We're going to move on.
Hosts' Filmmaking Journey
00:33:25
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And now for the meat and potatoes of this episode, we're doing something a little bit different for those that aren't aware.
00:33:32
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Lost in the Frame has a little bit of a filmmaking prowess, I would say. And so we wanted to kind of talk about our background, quote unquote background in that and our experience thus far as beginners, because we are very much still new into this, but we thought it'd be fun to kind of do a little about me and a little history on...
00:33:56
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Not only why do we want to talk about movies, but how do we contribute in making them as well? And how did that process turn out?
00:34:08
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And how did that process turn out? So, um I mean, I guess to start, how how do you want to how do we want to get into this? I mean, feel like we should just, like, say, like,
00:34:22
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you know, when did we as film lovers think, Hey, when can we, or let's actually take a shot at, at doing this. You know, we're talking like we actually, um really swung for the fences, but it's just too short film. So just want everyone to, it's not, that's why i said beginners and that it's nothing crazy, but I think it's fun to, uh, to talk about. I know, but just the way that, that but I said that where was like, you know, when did we decide that we were going to take this leap of faith in our journey? Uh, when did we decide that we wanted to make movies? Um, I don't know. It's hard to pinpoint for me.
00:35:05
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Um, So I guess, well, we should probably really start with um like Malik and I are, you know, we we kind of have a bit of a dynamic duo vibe when it comes to this. um Malik is more so on the directing side of the house and I am the nerd who writes everything.
00:35:32
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Um, now obviously we, um, kind of dabble in each other's roles cause we're not here to, you know, silo each other off.
00:35:44
Speaker
Um, but I think it is important to say like, this is what each of us brought to the table. So this is the angle that we approach this from him more. So the technical side and myself more. So the, um, like the script side, um, um,
00:35:59
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Cause for me, I've always loved telling stories. I've always loved, um, you know, whether it's just, you know growing up, you know, playing, you know, imagination games with the neighborhood kids, um, or with my toys or with, uh, you know, whatever.
00:36:15
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um, I always loved doing that. And in fourth grade, I had a teacher, Ms. Bowers. So shout out Ms. Bowers, if you're listening. um And she gave us a kind of year-long assignment that we always had to do. We had to...
00:36:32
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write in a journal and we could do whatever we wanted. Um, but we just had to do one piece of writing in it per week. And I wrote a serialized story about animals, about turtles. It was a a turtle named a dig dog. And, uh, some, some cats were in there, some dogs. Um,
00:36:55
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But my class loved this story. And I still have this journal somewhere. Oh, wow. This is all news to me, too. I think we're going to uncover some so background details of each other that maybe we didn't know.
00:37:08
Speaker
Yeah, this is we're going to get really deep and psychological. Malik and I are also ah but we're having some some drinks. Oh, yeah. And by drinks, we mean one apiece.
00:37:18
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um I still have this this journal somewhere. And so maybe if we get big...
00:37:25
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Dig dog release. Dig dog behind the Patreon paywall.
00:37:32
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People pay money to see dig dog. um It's still somewhere, but that really kind of jumpstarted my love for, Hey, I want to, to actually like really write stories.
00:37:44
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And in middle school, I wrote a lot and it was all like stuff that no one's ever seen. ah that That is also, I actually could probably pull some up right now and read it and I won't because it's terrible.
00:37:55
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um In fact, I actually have it locked away. It's like it's some lost media. Um, but, you know, where movies came into the picture was when i mean, growing up, I always watched movies with my dad.
00:38:08
Speaker
And that became our thing, especially when I got a little bit older. You know, we'd stay up like a little late. It's just me and him. And he's like, OK, we're going to watch something, you know, R rated. and It's like, whoa, I'm hardcore.
00:38:21
Speaker
And. You know, from there, i think that's kind of where my love for cinema beyond just, oh, I like this movie grows. My dad showed me a lot of like the canon films.
00:38:35
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ah He showed me a lot of foreign movies that I'm not sure I would have been introduced to if it wasn't for him, especially not at that age. Yeah. And it kind of helped me form my taste. And so at some point, and I would say this is probably high school, late high school, early college, um those two paths kind of converge to say, hey, not only do I want to write novels, I'd love to write movies as well.
00:39:04
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um And then from there, I just kind of ran with it. And then I met Malik. So yours, yeah, yours goes yours goes deep. Back to the fourth grade.
00:39:16
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Childhood trauma.
00:39:19
Speaker
That's pretty cool. Mine's not as, ah I don't think the way I got into everything is is as shiny. And i don' honestly, for myself, like I don't think I've ever really fully reflected on on the background. like like Hearing it from you, like you've got kind of these steps that you've taken like throughout your life to to get from point A to point B. And then for some like for me, like whenever I think about it, it just kind of feels like it just...
00:39:49
Speaker
almost happened one day but i know that's not the case because i mean for me growing up i mean there's always there's always the love for movies and i loved like finding a movie and like showing it to my mom i was really big on like movie trailers and i loved just like that exciting feeling of like watching a trailer before a movie like as a kid and then just building that anticipation to go to the theaters to see it and Like just like having like these thoughts about it afterwards and just like, oh, how did they do this? How did they do that? Like, that's so interesting.
00:40:18
Speaker
But I never got like too deep into it beyond just like loving to watch movies. And i think that was kind of just the path that I was on for a long time and sometime in...
00:40:31
Speaker
the late 20 teens I felt that I was in a place in my life where I just wanted i just wanted a hobby because the job I was working at at the time at Domino's was just quite literally taking over my life like like 60 to 70 hour work weeks and just like no time for anything and I knew i was getting burnt out I think I was like 21 22 at the point And I was just burnt out and i was like, I need to get out of here. I need to do stuff for me.
00:40:58
Speaker
And so while I was working at Domino's, um I gained an interest in photography. So saved up some money, bought my first camera and started just started walking around Austin, like taking pictures and doing all that. And I got a lot of enjoyment from that.
00:41:14
Speaker
And so I had shot a couple weddings as I got i got a little bit more experienced over the years. Shot a couple weddings, shot a couple of types of other things. And so I think that was where the directing first kind of showed itself.
00:41:26
Speaker
But there wasn't a lot of ah satisfaction that came from just photography. And so I got interested in making YouTube videos and I would watch these behind the scenes of all these movies that I liked. And I was like, okay, well, maybe I can like get into to short films. Like it seems like Austin has a pretty good like...
00:41:43
Speaker
like short film thing like maybe that's something that I could get into and so in 2019 I remember I joined a Facebook group for local filmmakers and I was just like okay what do I need to do like I don't know what I'd be interested in doing just I want to get on someone's like set and kind of see what happens and so i reached out to this guy matt sheeler shout out to matt good guy um and we met up at radio coffee he told me he was shooting the short film um i told him i had some experience with working with the camera but nothing like too much he was he's the same age as me so there's no money in any of this and so he brought me on as uh
00:42:20
Speaker
As assistant camera. So there's the director of photography is your main cinematographer. And then they usually have one AC or two ACs. And so that was the first thing I did. And I just had, I had so much fun doing it.
00:42:32
Speaker
um COVID hit, nothing was happening. And then I thought it was just time to get back into it. And I really just wanted to try my hand. And during that time, there was a couple other short films that it helped on. um i was the director of photography for another one of his short films um that we shot over COVID.
00:42:50
Speaker
I was assistant camera for a couple of other ones. Then i was like, I think I want to get my feet wet in directing my own. But I mean, I'm sure as you know, It can be daunting. you know like It can be kind of scary to kind of just getting started.
00:43:01
Speaker
But that's when i found the 48-hour film festival, which is a local festival that happens also around the United States and around the globe. where you have It's a local film festival international. local film festival that's also international. As soon as I said local, i' was like, it's not local. It's literally global.
00:43:20
Speaker
But it happens locally. ah Yeah, each each week there's like three or four cities that go. Yeah. And they happen over a short period of time. And then the winner of each city gets sent up to a ah true like international film festival called Filmapalooza.
00:43:39
Speaker
um But it's not a local film festival. And the winner of Filmapalooza gets a chance to get their short film screened at Cannes. Oh, it's not a chance. They do. They do get it screened. get it screened.
00:43:51
Speaker
I think they pick a few of them too, like the top like three or something. Yeah, it's not just it was yeah it was like i think a select few. Which is so sick. It wasn't like a true like this this one won. It was like a curated selection from Filmapalooza when you got it.
00:44:06
Speaker
um So we found that Alex and I have already known each other at this point. We met through work. I remember when I first found out he was a writer and I was like, oh, I'm going to keep that in the back of my mind. i want to talk to this guy. um Do you remember how I brought it up to you? Like, how did those conversations start?
00:44:21
Speaker
I don't remember. I can't remember if I had told that to you or if someone else did. because um there's someone you were a writer? Yeah. Someone else did, and we were at Central Machine Works. I remember when it happened. i remember who was there, and someone told me you were a writer. We were sitting around the fire pit, and i think someone had leaned over and said, oh, did you know that Alex is a writer?
00:44:43
Speaker
is said, no way. And then we started talking that night. Yeah. So do you remember like what was I'm sure I approached you about the 48 hour.
00:44:55
Speaker
you remember what that conversation was like? I don't even think you like really explain it. You just said, hey, would you want to do a short film together? I just said, yes.
00:45:08
Speaker
I'm pretty sure it was that simple. Yeah. And and so for details on the 48 hour film festival, for those that don't know, It's exactly what it sounds like. You have 48 hours to write, shoot, edit, and upload a short film.
48 Hour Film Festival Rules Explained
00:45:23
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You sign up. You get your... There your are, I think, about 20 to 30 genres that you could get Friday evening 6 o'clock. Everyone shows up who's participating.
00:45:34
Speaker
You go up one at a time and you pick a genre out of a hat. You get to pick two genres. And the rule is you can make a short film with one of the genres or both of them. So you don't know what genre you're going to get until the day of.
00:45:47
Speaker
So seven o'clock on Friday, you have your genres, start writing, shoot, edit, upload it by 7 PM on that Sunday, 48 hours. There are some other rules that make it a little more interesting. Um,
00:46:03
Speaker
Interestings in air quotes.
00:46:06
Speaker
You have to use like a certain phrase. In the movie. A certain. Character name. And then like a prop a certain prop. Yeah. yeah So and for example, like the line would have to be, don't tell me what to do.
00:46:25
Speaker
And your character would be someone named Alex. And then your prop would be like a party hat. Every short film has to include those three things. And I think that's just their way of making sure that this was filmed in the allotted time that no one's shooting something weeks prior and then uploading it.
00:46:43
Speaker
You do a really bad dub of the line. Which I get. But it's... Well, we'll get more into it. But the problem was the execution of that.
00:46:55
Speaker
yeah yeah we Yeah, we can get into the the problems we had about about a couple of our experiences. But our first experience was 2023, correct?
00:47:06
Speaker
Yep. And we have shot a short film. We did shoot a short film that year by the name of At First Sight. And similar to Ding Dong, mate is it Ding Dong?
00:47:18
Speaker
don dig dig dog similar to dig dog maybe one day we'll have a loss in the media behind the patreon and at first sight right now is lost media but maybe one day it'll be it'll be released i think i downloaded it i think it's on my phone yeah you had sent it i just can't remember if it actually like had completed the download of it yeah um it's on my phone but let's talk about that experience Yeah, because at first sight, I feel like in looking back at it, that was the worst way to go about doing that.
00:47:54
Speaker
I disagree. we So our plan going in was like, we're going to have a ton of our friends so and this is going to be this big collab and it's going to be wonderful. So we're in Malik's apartment and there is like seven or eight people there.
00:48:10
Speaker
Everybody has an opinion. and like this is this is This is the writing portion of the night. So Alex and I went to the event. We got our genres. Our genres were romance and thriller. thriller And yeah, we had the god-awful idea to not pick one or the other, but to combine both the genres. And we were going to be so extravagant with it. And yeah, like he said, eight people in my apartment brainstorming.
00:48:40
Speaker
Mistake number one. Very opinionated people. very ah All of us. All of us were very opinionated. And there were... um I'm not going to throw everybody under the bus because there were actually some really, really solid ideas there. Ones that I loved that I think we should have ran with, but I got outvoted.
00:48:58
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um
00:49:01
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What ended up happening was we kind of picked one idea from... Like one bit from everyone's idea and made this homunculus. Good Short film. Word of the day.
00:49:14
Speaker
And. Well, the problem was when we went to film it. It was like. Oh. It was. Yeah. I wrote the script.
00:49:26
Speaker
We didn't even get started filming until like one o'clock. It was after lunch. um Another mistake that we made was. It took us all night on Friday to come up with an idea.
00:49:38
Speaker
And then you left after like midnight or something to go write the script. So we didn't even have the script until the morning of. No. And what I had written was ah framework that was ah script with some really bad lines in there.
00:49:55
Speaker
There were some bangers. um I wrote it two in the morning and then everyone was complaining about it the next day. I'm like, I didn't see you in my room with me writing this monstrosity. It's hard. It's hard for sure.
00:50:09
Speaker
Like, I mean, come on, people. Give me some credit. ah But yeah, two years later, I can admit that it was not good. um It was not my best work. And I would i would say real quick, ah what one of the most challenging parts of this, of not finding out what you're shooting until like the evening where this whole thing starts kicking off is like...
00:50:28
Speaker
First off, like locations, like where are you going to shoot it? Who's going to be in it? Who's going to be doing what? Prior to this, I had like I had my own camera. It was a Fujifilm X-T3, which shot both photos and videos. So not even a dedicated like cinema camera, which is fine.
00:50:44
Speaker
um But I rented all this gear from Austin movie gear, what we would need sound. We had Tachi on sound, rented a couple of lights, things that I thought that we would need for the short film, just for my prior experiences and working on other short films. so I'm like, all right, this is what we're going to get.
00:50:59
Speaker
Let's, let's attack it. All we need is a script. Now we're in Saturday. We had a lot of people behind the camera and it was just a lot of people standing around.
00:51:11
Speaker
Like we didn't have really, we, we had a, an executive assistant and she was the bomb. Um, she just got us food. Yes. Uh, that was great.
00:51:23
Speaker
And, but besides that, it was a lot of yelling And i was very I was very nervous because it's like we had all these people and people are doing nothing.
00:51:35
Speaker
And for me, like as the director, it's like pointing everybody and like handing out the jobs and figuring out like exactly what to do. And so i was I was pretty nervous like going into it. I mean, having it be like the first time that i and that I've directed anything. And it was just like we're all kind of just shooting in the dark right now. But also just try not to put too much pressure because – I think anyone that's like artistic in any way knows that the beginnings of what your art is, it's going to be bad.
00:52:05
Speaker
And you kind of have to get those first few things like out of the way and learn, which is what I think we did. um i was going to say, we did, if we did not know the time we were like, this is going to be solid. Honestly. Yeah. Like, yeah. Thinking back on it, I can say that, but in the moment we're like, fuck yeah, this is sick.
00:52:23
Speaker
Yeah. Well, we were having a good time. It was a lot of it was a lot of fun. Like, i like i I do want to say, like, even if we're talking about, like, the stress of of it all, like, we all had a really good time, and it was a very memorable experience for everybody.
00:52:37
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um
Behind-the-Scenes: 'At First Sight' Filming
00:52:39
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Should we give away the twist in the plot? you can i'll Yeah, go ahead and talk about like the synopsis of this of the amazing movie.
00:52:49
Speaker
so um we yeah So, like Malika said, it was a romance thriller. And so basically, we were we we had our main character, starred by our friend Anna.
00:53:01
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And um she played someone who was down their luck. They weren't getting any any any dudes, any quality dates.
00:53:12
Speaker
And decided to go to a speed dating event. And it's going... Honestly, the the best part of the movie is the speed dating scene. Even though our sound design was...
00:53:26
Speaker
Not great. Yeah. um The levels were really in and out. Sound is really hard. like Shout out to Tachi. I had to like show Tachi the three things that I knew. And I was like, okay, go.
00:53:41
Speaker
But sound is really hard. He and he didn't do. Yeah, he didn't do bad by any stretch of the imagination. But like the post production of it was yeah where it fell apart.
00:53:52
Speaker
um But the best part of the movie is the speed dating sequence because ah your brother and Brandon had some just. Bangers, they had some funny lines. The line that we had to use was cryptocurrency is the future for that one.
00:54:08
Speaker
And such a bad line. It was really bad, but was it Brandon or Nate that said that was Nathan. It was so good. It was. So he's it's. So the first, the opening shot of the movie is Anna in the car talking to her friend. Kind of, we're kind of getting the gist of what she's about to do. She's about to do the speed dating and she's nervous.
00:54:29
Speaker
We get the title card. Um, i like i do like and cam and i were watching this the other day i do like the car slamming show about her going in we watched it again and it was really hard but she we gotta put it on letterbox yeah oh my god we do we do but she gets out of the car and she slams the door and that just like transitions into the title card for at first sight with like a theme song which i think is pretty cool and then we get into the speed dating but And we have Darian and his boyfriend as one of the as one of the speed daters, Brandon Jannotti, and then my brother, Nathan Whitaker.
00:55:01
Speaker
um But yeah, Nathan is the one who says the line cryptocurrency is the future. And then what does he say about the ah he's he's just asking or like, like you're on a you're on a date with like a tech bro. And he's just kind of not letting you talk. And he's just trying to explain all these terms that you don't understand. He's like hey, cryptocurrency is the future.
00:55:19
Speaker
And she goes, and she's like yeah i'm not really interested in all this. And he goes, wow, I didn't know you were invested in Bitcoin.
00:55:29
Speaker
it The delivery is what makes it incredible. Yeah, i I do think that's funny. And then Brandon flexed the camera during That was crazy. Oh, my God. We forgot Oscar.
00:55:39
Speaker
And Oscar is also one of the speed daters. For some reason, he's just exhausted. Like, he just came from little. Really sweaty Really sweaty. Like, he just came on a run, and he's not listening to Anna talk, and he's just chugging water.
00:55:52
Speaker
Yeah, that was. That was that was the best part of the movie anyway. So Anna meets our other main character, Miles, and Miles is he's a normal guy. He's a cool guy. He's got that chiseled jaw, that slick back hair. That Chris Evans vibe. He's a man's man. He's a man's man.
00:56:14
Speaker
And he. ah he he is the guy for Anna. And they start going on a date. They leave the speed dating event.
00:56:25
Speaker
They outside. And transitions into... They go outside. they They go outside. And I swear, the most generic free-to-use song.
00:56:37
Speaker
Oh, my God. And the music to try... the like Trying to find music for a free short film that's like... public domain and you don't have to buy licenses for you don't have listenable and it's listenable you don't have good choices so they do screen all these in a theater and so when I had mentioned earlier that our sound design was bad when this free to use song came on um I heard like the speakers crackle because it was so loud too loud and that's on me so it was so embarrassing I
00:57:15
Speaker
So i also I also edited this and I'll talk about like the editing process and how stressful that was. But like, I mean, there's there's a lot that goes into to making anything.
00:57:27
Speaker
And the fact that anything like gets made, like these short films or these big feature films, like just bravo. Like that's just an act of just, it's it's amazing.
00:57:40
Speaker
But lots of mistakes were made way too loud in the theater. Anyway, plot twist. Anna kills Miles. Yes.
00:57:51
Speaker
The movie ends with Anna killing Miles because she's actually a serial killer. And it's really done poorly. It's done so poorly. So we go from the outside date. There's no dialogue in this date. It's just shots of them walking around outside with this public domain music playing in the background that's supposed to show that they're in love.
00:58:11
Speaker
They walk off into the sunset. And then the next shot we see is Anna walking around downtown, talking to her friend again, callback from her, the first scene. Ooh, foreshadow as well.
00:58:22
Speaker
um And as she's walking, we see her pass... a pole with a uh with a missing person person sign on it the camera zooms in with more public freed like music that goes yeah but du as the camera's zooming into this picture and who's on the picture miles missing what'd she do to him she killed him so the well she could have had him locked in her basement true It's up to the viewer to decide.
00:58:54
Speaker
little Silence of the Lambs action. We wanted to keep it like ambiguous. Yeah, we love a good ambiguous ending. the The best part about filming the sequence with the poster was we stapled it to a pole on Barton Springs Boulevard.
00:59:10
Speaker
And as we were setting up, it was me. think it was me, Anna and Rachel were standing looking at it. And this this jogger comes running by and he stops. He looks it. He goes, oh, my God, that's so scary.
00:59:26
Speaker
And I'm like, oh, he's down the street. Like, this is for a movie. And he was like, oh, thank God. And then continued running. Poor guy. this is long before there was any news of a potential Austin serial killer. I didn't even think of that. Yeah. I didn't even think of These were the roots.
00:59:48
Speaker
Somewhere, guy is in Austin, and he's like, Was that guy the Rainy Street Ripper? Fuck. I could have gotten him. What if it was the jogger?
01:00:00
Speaker
It could have. Oh my God, it's so scary. I'm going to get caught. Look at us. We're spitballing another short film idea here. but think we're on to something. no i think I think we're making another prediction. We're making another prediction.
01:00:12
Speaker
So we wrapped filming Saturday at around 8 p.m., I would say. we had Yeah, we didn't start shooting until 1. one i don't even it was just we had Miles and Anna going over the script, rewrites, blah, blah, blah, what have you.
01:00:27
Speaker
But we shot for about eight hours that day. And I went home and immediately started editing. oh my god oh my god that was just that was a beast like i had experience with editing because i had mentioned earlier i was trying to get into like the youtube game and make it like youtube videos so like i knew my way around ah ah a digital audio uh editing software um but this was just it was just insane just i'll i won't get into the technicals of it but
01:01:02
Speaker
Long story short, we have until Sunday at 7 p.m. to edit it. I'm freaking out trying to get this on time. You came over. i came over, and i remember opening the door to your place, and Cam greeted me at the door, and she goes...
01:01:17
Speaker
He's not doing good. You need to go talk to him. um And so I walk in your your office and you just give me just like the saddest, sad dog look.
01:01:30
Speaker
You're like, this isn't going well. And I'm like, how far in are you? and you're like, not far.
01:01:38
Speaker
and We had hours left to do this, but you stayed. Cam was also there helping, and we kind of just, we went through it. um what Do you remember what your thoughts were once we had once we had a locked picture?
01:01:57
Speaker
Oh, real quick, before we get into that, we didn't submit on time. so No. and so So it's, I guess, ah fine if you don't submit on time, but your film won't be in contention for any of the awards that the 48-hour film festival gives out.
01:02:12
Speaker
But it will still be screened in the movie theater with all of the other films. But what were your initial thoughts on the locked picture whenever we were finally done and uploaded?
01:02:22
Speaker
Do you remember how you felt, what you thought of the movie? Like after we watched it time? Yeah, for the first yeah. Well, I remember. um we were proud. This is a core memory. It was you, me, and Cam.
01:02:34
Speaker
And we we turned off all the lights, we put it on your TV, and we're like, here we go. And we sat through it in silence. And when it finished, Cam was like, oh my god, I'm so proud of you guys.
01:02:46
Speaker
And we turned and looked at each other, and we were like, oh my god. We're like, we can't show this to anybody. But we had already uploaded it.
01:02:59
Speaker
We knew. it was It was on their server before we had watched like the full finished product. yeah And this was an uncolor graded, unsound balanced, just roughly edited, I'm going to use the word again, homunculus.
01:03:20
Speaker
Yeah, we I ran out of time to color grade it. It's flat. It's raw. It's not color graded. It looks like... It looks like it was a choice. It looked like a high school project. It did.
01:03:36
Speaker
It did. But... I'm very proud of what we did. like We did it, and it's a hard thing to do um And honestly, when we had the screening for like all of the other ones, ours wasn't the worst.
01:03:54
Speaker
No. In fact, there were some that were just insane.
01:04:00
Speaker
the the cryptocurrency is the future one was crazy that lives in my mind i will never forget it it was this is truly lost media someone out there has a copy of this like we joke about like oh at first sight is lost media like we know exactly where it is we have a copy of it we could show it to anybody we could upload it to youtube at any time like we know exactly where it is it's just not public The Cryptocurrency is the Future one was just... It was certifiably insane.
01:04:32
Speaker
I mean, was about bachelorette party on 6th Street that goes on this MKUltra trip about cryptocurrency, and they keep recreating in the camera like, cryptocurrency is the future. Cryptocurrency is the future.
01:04:45
Speaker
And it was like five minutes of just... insanity and i don't want to like knock anyone's short film but the point of these prompts in this festival isn't that's not a jumping off point you just have to include it but like that one and i feel like there were a couple other ones who just like took the the line that we just have to say and just made that the short film yeah and the but i will give the cryptocurrency is the future people credit it was pretty well made
01:05:17
Speaker
Like the the the effects that they did in there, I remember being like... Like, oh. they They did... They put in some work. It kind of had the sauce. Honestly, and here's here's the thing. It did have the sauce because it's the only one I remember.
01:05:32
Speaker
It's the only one I really, like, truly remember besides ours. still talking about it two years later. i cant I could not recall any other one. There was one where I think...
01:05:43
Speaker
See, I don't even remember. I can't even like pull one out of ass. Yeah, I can't i can't either. There was it wast really a horror one that was... Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, there was the pedo one. There was the pedophile one. Oh, my God, there was that one. That one was weird.
01:06:02
Speaker
that one They might need to check that guy's hard drive. Yeah, that one was weird. Some questionable choices in that one, but it was a their prompt was dark comedy and they went hard on the dark light on the comedy, very light on the comedy.
01:06:16
Speaker
Um, but I mean, all in all, it was a really cool experience getting to watch it in the theater, seeing directed by Malik Whitaker, written by Alex Carlino, sound by Tachi Shugger, all of our things.
01:06:30
Speaker
God, that, that was a really cool experience. Um, And overall, we had fun. The short film sucked.
01:06:41
Speaker
It got locked away. It got locked away. But we made up our minds that we were going to try again the next year. And so 2024 rolls around and we're doing it again.
01:06:54
Speaker
like We are but sitting at the watch party. Let's lock in We're going to do it. I have in my hand a duck that I picked. You still have it.
01:07:05
Speaker
i still have the duck. Dude, I'm never getting rid of this thing. um We had to pick up a duck and on the bottom of it, which is rubbed off at this point, but the number on the bottom of the duck corresponded to our genres.
01:07:22
Speaker
And um I picked the duck. Now, when Malik and I are preparing for this one, we we did some some pregame analysis.
01:07:34
Speaker
we I don't even know. does this count as cheating? This does not count as cheating because they give the genres a few weeks before, a month before. like we know Actually, a long time before. We know what the genres are now.
01:07:46
Speaker
Yeah. they give the jump Well, it is happening a few weeks, but we know everyone knows what the 30 genres are. You just don't know what two you're going to get. Yeah. So we did some brainstorming about like potential ideas we could do for each one, who we would bring into our team and what they would do.
01:08:05
Speaker
And reflect on the mistakes that we made with at first sight. We fully were aware that there was too many cooks in the kitchen. We kind of had a better idea of how it the day should flow, how the two days should flow.
01:08:18
Speaker
So I think we just had a better understanding. And we i i do think we had a really good start for at least acknowledging the mistakes that were made and learning from them.
01:08:29
Speaker
Mm-hmm. And so we may We brainstormed ideas for like 26 of the 30. And there were four that we were just like, I have no idea on.
01:08:43
Speaker
And those were climate film. Musical. Musical. I don't remember the third one. I think we were really stuck on femme de fatale.
01:08:57
Speaker
Is that the... Was there a femme fatale? Because I know there was film de femme. Film de femme. Sorry. Film de femme. We didn't know what to do for that. We were super stuck on film de femme. And so the next day, actually, it was probably weeks later, but for drama's sake, the next day when we actually did go to the launch party and we got our genres, the two we got were family film and film de femme.
01:09:19
Speaker
The two, there were, i think we had ideas for action, horror, thriller, comedy. We had ideas for like the basic ones, but we had no prior ideas for a family film or film. the We had one for family. It just wasn't, it was like so generic and stupid.
01:09:37
Speaker
We had nothing for film to femme. Film to femme, for those who don't know, is it's like, it just translates to to film of woman. And it's, um,
01:09:49
Speaker
It's a genre centered around the lived experiences of a woman or women. And, you know, Malik and I, we really know women.
01:10:00
Speaker
We're just two dudes that know women. we We know a lot about women. We just had never thought about making film. And putting those ideas to paper.
01:10:16
Speaker
so Initially, I remember we were just kind of like, ah and we had our crew at my house waiting waiting for us to show up, let them know the genre so we can get to writing.
01:10:30
Speaker
And I would say that Friday evening was... It went very well. It went incredible. And I want to give a shout out to both Anna and Cam who really helped bring the idea together.
01:10:43
Speaker
Because doing we decided not to do family film. We did film the femme. Yeah. but we're like And we also decided, we're one thing we decided was we're not going half-ass this. Yeah. like We're going to actually swing for the fences. We're going to be risky.
01:10:58
Speaker
We're going to shoot shot. Yep. um and we're gonna see what happens like we're going to be proud of what we put out and we're not going to compromise on it that was something really important that the four of us had decided that night i think it was only just the four of us it was a it was a very small group compared to the previous year and i think that really helped bring an idea that we all liked and that we could execute on in a way that we felt was
01:11:29
Speaker
In a way that we felt was, uh, that we could do, like just bring it to a level that, that at first sight maybe wasn't at. And so, yeah, I, I, I think that first night just went really well.
01:11:44
Speaker
We did a lot of pre-work with the ideas for the genres. I had bought a new camera. I had been messing around with it. i had There was also kind of getting a while while Alex and and others were kind of penning the script and I was getting ideas of what we were going to do.
01:12:02
Speaker
i was putting together ah visual mood board. So like on top of directing, I'm also shooting this. So as like the cinematographers, I'm also putting together a mood board for how we want the movie to look and how we want it to feel and how that's all going to kind of blend together.
01:12:16
Speaker
And so I think in combination with those with, with Alex that was writing, um, with the help, with the help of everybody else with the mood board, we felt really good going into Saturday.
01:12:28
Speaker
felt really good. We felt really good going into Saturday. um You had the great idea to to go to a separate location. I was kind of against that. But then, like in hindsight... i was also against it. it was I want to say it was mainly Cam that had ah the conviction to be like, we should we should shoot this somewhere else. because i was like I think I was on the on the fence of, like we can shoot this at the house.
01:12:53
Speaker
like this I definitely think we could have, but The way it turned out, I wouldn't have changed. I wouldn't have changed it. And I think the environment really lent itself to the story that we told.
01:13:06
Speaker
And just with some of the shots that we have, it it built a little world. And i that was... So um i I'll give Cam the credit there for kind of pushing us to...
01:13:17
Speaker
To get a different location to do it, which we have to find these locations at the very last minute. I had put it, I'd put out a few, um, a few inquiries for like some, it's, there's like a, like almost Airbnb style for shooting films. They're like people like rent out their houses and everything. And so we just had to have someone answer, say yes, like in hours to do it.
01:13:40
Speaker
And they came through and this place was awesome. I mean, it was just such a cool location. they came They came through, but they didn't. If you remember. its right. Yeah. Wasn't it? It was a bachelorette party or like a wedding something. So it was in East Austin and it was just like this, this really like interesting looking house.
01:13:59
Speaker
um But we saw the pictures, we saw the inside kind of established like where we'd want to go. And so we finally, we show up on Saturday around maybe like nine, like eight or 9 a.m. um And the inside where we were supposed to shoot Somehow it got double booked with an Airbnb and there was yeah like a bachelor or bachelorette party happening and we didn't have access to inside the house, but they had an outside room area or whatever and we could shoot on the property.
01:14:28
Speaker
And so we kind of just had to roll with the punches on that one. But I think that was like a blessing in hindsight because I mean we it worked and it looked cool.
01:14:39
Speaker
It looked really cool and So, I mean, I'm not going to tell you the plot of this movie like we did for At First Sight because this is publicly available. You can go watch it on YouTube. we'll
Promoting Their Second Short Film
01:14:50
Speaker
We'll throw a link um in our episode description all that. Oh, yeah. Link to call back in the in the show notes.
01:14:57
Speaker
um But this one, you know, I'm not i'm not even going to give a little teaser. I just think you should go watch it. It's it's six minutes long, and we're really proud of it.
01:15:08
Speaker
I'm really proud of this one. I'm really proud of this one. It was a very non... um like a non-linear film um the script for it was probably the the laziest script i've ever written because all it was was just a series of line like a series of um or all scripts are a series of lines but it was just a series of of voicemails so and um you know in the script that i wrote we had it ordered out but it was basically just um
01:15:43
Speaker
Having people read it and vocal coaching them through it. And um we then took the the voicemails that we had and the part of my job was also, you know, what order do they go in for the best narrative structure? Yeah.
01:16:01
Speaker
Now we had to um shove in three different ideas into this one that were given to us. um One of them was gummy bears. One of them was the line of... It could always be worse. It could always be worse. And...
01:16:17
Speaker
God, it was so hard to put that in the movie. Cam and I were talking after the, ah so recently, um outside of the 48, the short film did get accepted to screen at at a local short film showcase that they do every month. And that was just a few weeks ago. We got to...
01:16:35
Speaker
see it again with the crowd um earlier in my surgery actually the day of the day of alex's surgery so he unfortunately wasn't able to make it but cam and i were talking after we were just like that is our least favorite part because we had to do it and it just like cam was like i would never say that to anybody of like any one of my friends going through something like this i would never say oh it could always be worse
01:17:00
Speaker
dude we're gonna like one of us is gonna be going through something and we need to say it to the other person like a serious thing and to be like hey it could always be worse honestly it would make my day like if i was going through some like real stuff and you said that and then like winked yeah i'd lose my mind i'd be so back fun little inside joke yeah um and then what was the name of we had to make the character Kim.
Kim from California and Gummy Bears
01:17:28
Speaker
it It was Kim from California, gummy bears, and the line, it could always be worse. I will say, i am very proud of the way that we showed that she was from California.
01:17:39
Speaker
Yeah, that was that was cool. Good shot. That was a great shot. um it's It's funny. I'll be interested to hear people, if you got any feedback, or if you want to you know join our... ah our, our fan mail segment, um, drop in your thoughts and see which scenes really stick out to you the most, knowing that, uh, we had to shove three random scenes in here. Yeah. Yeah.
01:18:08
Speaker
um because they do really stick out especially like the gummy bears one the gummy bears the gummy bears stick out like they they just all stick out but i mean we did use the least egregious gummy bear shot though we did because again people just took it and ran with it Oh my goodness. So we we finished this up and then we had it, you know, so we submitted this one on time.
Editing Challenges and Meeting Deadlines
01:18:31
Speaker
We submitted this with like an hour to go Oh yeah, we were we were good. Color graded and we were were so locked in the next Oh my God, we were... Me, you and Cam in my office editing it were cooking. Like I think that's like the most locked in like three people have ever been.
01:18:47
Speaker
We were, I mean, the the day before was exhausting. We were smoked after that. it was That was... A hot day. It was hot. It was like 103 degrees something. Yeah, and we were outside, and the room that that you'll see in the short film, it's not that... It's not really air-conditioned. There's a box fan, but it was hot.
01:19:07
Speaker
it was it was It was insane. um But yeah, we were so locked when we were editing this thing. I mean, we were... When we were finishing it up, I mean, like we would have to like stand up and walk around. Yes, it was super stressful.
01:19:22
Speaker
ah We got this finished. And like like I said, we like an hour ago. And so we were done. And the feeling of relief. When we just had it done was awesome compared to the year before. Oh, yeah. The the mood was 180.
Family Reactions and Premiere Restrictions
01:19:40
Speaker
Yeah, we watched it in my living room again, and we were just like holy shit. Like, we got something here. Well, we we also sent it to your mom and my parents. Yes.
01:19:51
Speaker
We sent Google Drive links. We said, here are some live reactions. Because i remember we watched it with Cam, and instead of saying, I'm so proud of you guys, she said, that was good. Mm-hmm.
01:20:04
Speaker
And that's when you know it's good, when she's not just giving empty platitudes. Yeah. Not that her platitudes, you know what I mean? Yeah, I know. um I appreciated it the love cam.
01:20:16
Speaker
We needed it after at first sight. um And we, we, it's, this just sounds like we're tooting our own horn, but it just goes to show you the, the change in the movies. Cause when my parents saw at first sight, their feedback was,
01:20:34
Speaker
you guys had some really solid ideas in there. I just think, and then when they saw a callback, I mean, my dad was just begging. he said, can I please send this link to everybody? It's like, no, we can't have it get out before premieres. And after that we can.
01:20:49
Speaker
um And so just knowing that we had made something that other people were proud to share I thought was awesome. yeah That was the best part of the whole thing. Yeah.
Film Comparisons and Screening Issues
01:21:02
Speaker
the reaction The reactions from it were, yeah, were just, it felt really nice and it was just,
01:21:11
Speaker
I was just really proud that we saw what we did the year before and really like fixed those mistakes. Like it's honestly kind of crazy like thinking back on it. Like if you watch at first sight and then call back back to back, like the difference between the two I would say is just like,
01:21:28
Speaker
Astounding. I have to say it's, it's, it's, it has to be seen to be believed and hopefully you will never see at first sight. Um, and when we were screening them, we were screening them this, this time it was screamed at, uh, St. Edward's campus in their theater.
01:21:50
Speaker
Yeah. and this time we were not embarrassed. Um, Although they messed up. They messed up our sound. They did mess up our sound. And it wasn't our fault. It was not our fault. I know they messed up the sound because it sounded perfect at the recent short film showcase.
01:22:05
Speaker
They did not turn it up. like No. like The volume was too low and you couldn't hear a ton of the sound design we had done for it Because we also, like in the first like opening like minute or two, or besides, like after the first minute, the next couple minutes are pretty quiet.
01:22:21
Speaker
where we just kind of have this, ah like a box, like we can, so you can hear the box fan and we had put that in after editing and we wanted it to be quiet and we wanted it to be like very like close and personal.
01:22:31
Speaker
And at the St. Edward's premiere, you couldn't hear shit. It just sounded like it was quiet. At the short film showcase, you could hear the hum of the fan. You could kind of like feel the environment and it made such a difference. So you're right. They did mess up on that.
01:22:44
Speaker
Well, Todd, you did all that work getting us the nature sounds and you couldn't hear them. Yeah, you could not hear them. You could hear anything. honestly, the nature sounds, though simple, I think add so much to it.
01:22:56
Speaker
Oh, well, the movie felt... Especially the ending. It felt so lived in, like the atmosphere. Yeah. Like it really felt just like a snippet, a slice of life. um Yeah, they they messed up the... set I mean, I'm not saying like, oh, they...
01:23:10
Speaker
Did it on purpose. But it was was too quiet. And you know I know they were pulling together it quick in a theater that they had little experience in. um But it was still just like, ugh! Like we couldn't even get that one. But I mean, it was okay because...
01:23:31
Speaker
compared to at first sight and not being eligible for any of the awards or so following um the initial screenings where everyone gets a screening there are awards to follow but the only films that screen for the uh for the next showcase are the top 10 films and callback this year was in the top 10 films yeah um let's talk about the nominations what is the face The face is that this is the part that's always the hardest to relive. This is the hardest to relive. So there's the initial screening at St. Edwards.
01:24:07
Speaker
I'm forgetting how much time passes between that screening and finding out who kind of goes on. It was like a decently long time. It was. It was. It was a pretty long time. I would say, yeah, a few weeks, a month and a half. But we did get into the top 10 films on top of being nominated for the top 10 film. We were nominated for 10 categories.
01:24:29
Speaker
Which was awesome. We got nominated for best use of character, best use of genre, best set design, best editing, best cinematography, best musical score, best costumes, hair, and makeup, best sound design, best directing, best writing, and then the nomination for best film.
01:24:47
Speaker
So 11 nominations total. which we were like over the moon. And the way I won, I'm a comment on the 48 hour.
01:24:58
Speaker
I kind of hated the way they rolled out the nominations. I agree. They did like three every two days, like three categories, like out of how many non nomination categories they have. and And by the time that they had announced all of them, I think it was like two days before the actual thing. Yeah. Like we didn't have any time to promote it.
01:25:18
Speaker
Yeah. So like, because, Everyone that we knew that maybe would have come was doing something else. Yeah. So it's like they started, we'll say they started like day one, they start announcing the first couple categories for who was nominated.
01:25:32
Speaker
And it takes like 14 days or something like that until the next premiere. But at day 13, then, you know, all of the nominations. So we didn't even know everything up until, like you said, a couple days before um the top 10 film premiere.
01:25:51
Speaker
And this is where it gets, this is where we still can't live it down and we get a little a little salty with with what happened. But let's let's start with the positive.
01:26:05
Speaker
Let's start with the negative. No, let's start with the positive. I want to say i want to say i want to say one negative. Where they had this top 10 film screening. They had it at some janky ass water park.
01:26:19
Speaker
Valente Beach. Valente Beach. And we're watching these movies on the sand, dirt, on a on a projector. Not great sound. An inflatable projector. inflatable projector. Not great sound again.
01:26:31
Speaker
Just like... You still couldn't hear anything. You still couldn't hear anything. It just... It felt... it was just kind of defeating. And whenever we found out it was at Valente Beach Resort, i was like, what are we doing?
01:26:44
Speaker
This is where you organize this. So I hated that. I hated that. And my mom came down and surprised me. I do want to say you had another positive of that. She just showed up at my house one day or that was all like a day before. Like I had no idea that she was coming and she was just there.
01:27:00
Speaker
and it that was And it really meant a lot to me. And I'll never forget that.
01:27:07
Speaker
Let's talk about more positives. Yeah. um Frankly, I didn't think we... So we got nominated for Best ah Screenplay, and obviously that was the one I was the most excited about.
01:27:19
Speaker
um I didn't think we were going to win it. Not at all. In fact, I said... Because we were like counting and saying, like which ones do we think we're actually going to win? And that was one I said, let's not count this one.
01:27:33
Speaker
And we won it. We did. We won it. You got Best Writing. the trophy. Wait, where is the trophy? It's... ah you're discipline
01:27:44
Speaker
Have you studied the trophies? Have you noticed it's a bat? have. I thought it was a squirrel. It's a bat. Like the Austin bat. Yeah. Horribly 3D printed trophies that they gave No, I actually think it's really well done. The problem is it's all the same color.
01:28:02
Speaker
Yeah. And it's dark color. Yeah. Like it's deep purple. Some of them are silver. I have a silver. I have two purples and one silver. Spoiler alert. We got a few wins that night. Um...
01:28:13
Speaker
best writing we get we did to get best writing i'll list off what else we got we got best costume hair and makeup that award went to cam go watch callback and there is a scene there's the pivotal scene i would say in it and cam's makeup on that was so well done like it was so well done that when i actually saw it in person i forgot that it was real yeah I mean, I forgot that it wasn't real. I thought it was real. Yeah. i was... For, like, five seconds, I was like, whoa.
01:28:48
Speaker
And I'm like, oh. So Cam did an amazing job and really, like, helped nail the pivotal scene of the short film and came away with an award for Best Costume, Hair, and Makeup.
01:29:00
Speaker
We got Best Sound Design. T-Money. Shout out Tachi. Another... The Married Man. The Married Lost Boy. We got Best Cinematography.
01:29:11
Speaker
That was a fun one. i was i I was hoping for that one, too, because I was really proud of how it was shot. And I was like, this is just sick. like i I love how this is shot. So I was really happy with that one. Best writing.
01:29:24
Speaker
We got best directing. And then... Best picture. No, we did not. No. We did not. Where's the soundboard? ah what's What would be... a
01:29:42
Speaker
So we got best direct, just to recap, best directing, best writing, best cinematography, best sound design, best costume, hair, and makeup. In a normal world of the Academy, you would think that the film that night that is winning all those comes out that night with best film, right? If you were to if you were to mathematically assign a value to each one, if they were all equal weight,
01:30:11
Speaker
we won the most that night. We did. And people were making comments. They're just like, you should assign. If you were to assign different weights based on like the, severity of the category.
01:30:23
Speaker
We would. Cause like, I mean, let's be real. Like best director is it's more prestigious than best use of character. Yeah. So there are, we, we won the most for that too. Like, and I'm not just saying like arbitrarily, like, Oh, like ours were the heaviest weight.
01:30:37
Speaker
It's like, no, I mean, best screenplay, best directing, Like best actor. Because those are probably the three heavyweights. Because some of the genres they have are like not the typical genres that you would see or nomination categories that you would see like at the at the Oscars or something. So like you said, best use of character, best use of genre, best use of line. That's like specifically tailored for the 48-hour film festival. So not counting those, counting what I'll call like the big boys, you said, the best directing, best writing, counting the big boys.
01:31:05
Speaker
Those are weighed heavily, I would say, in contention for who would win best film. And I don't think anybody would disagree with that. And if if even if you look at it that way, we still should like would have won because the other like big boy categories were spread out between a couple different movies. Yeah.
01:31:25
Speaker
So it wasn't like one V2. Like we weren't like just going back and forth with another film. It was us and like three others. Yeah.
01:31:37
Speaker
So we came out of this night not getting first, but we got got second.
Award Wins and Best Film Disappointment
01:31:41
Speaker
We got second. second But second doesn't get to go to Filmapalooza in Seattle. Second doesn't get a chance to go get a screening at Cannes.
01:31:50
Speaker
Nope. Only first place does. Yep. And the vibe that night when they announced um the best film, I think was very confused.
01:32:05
Speaker
You could feel the confusion in the air because there were comments as I was repeatedly going up to accept the awards that someone was just like, you just need to stay up there. And like people like were responding very well to the film and,
01:32:18
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this This episode could come off as like us being just super salty. No. But we had three other teams as we were leaving in the parking lot of Valente Beach.
01:32:31
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And I will attest to this like under oath. It was like two or three teams come up to us and say, you should have won. The movie that did win. In a non shady way, can we can we say the three categories that they did win?
01:32:50
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Yes, because there were some things they did well. There were some things they did well, for sure. But they walked away with wins. I don't know how many categories they were nominated for. They were also nominated for a lot.
01:33:02
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But for wins that they walked away with that night, it was Best Acting Ensemble and Best Original Song and Best Film.
01:33:15
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Those were the three that they walked away with that night.
01:33:20
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And I've, we were, like I said, there was confusion in the air. They announced us, they announced third place first, and then they announced second, and they announced callback a second.
01:33:33
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And like there weren't claps when they announced callback a second, but there was confusion and I heard it and you could feel it. I wish we had it on film. i wish we had brandon um Brandon was going to film the reaction, but he did not hit play because he did not think. we were going to be second. So we, none of us did like we were talking to each other throughout the entire award ceremony. Just like, this is crazy.
01:33:58
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Like what's happening? Like, look like, like we're doing good. Like this is crazy. And so when it, when we say that we just really didn't like, we didn't go into, we didn't go into Valente like all high and mighty, like, Oh, our boom was the best. Our boom was best. Like we were just like happy to be there having a good time.
01:34:15
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And then they just kind of started rolling in we were just like Holy shit. Like, like We might go to Seattle. like this is This is great. like we were All of us were fully expecting a different result.
01:34:28
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You know what it felt like? Huh. It felt like they hit the Pentagon again. They hit the Pentagon! They hit the Pentagon!
01:34:39
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It was... um I still think about it. I still think about it. is If you guys had seen this, I'm not going to give a name.
01:34:50
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I'm not going to say what it was about because those they don't deserve to get hated by us on our own podcast. um We're not hating on them. They were very nice people.
01:35:01
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The people who won. Yeah. They were very congratulatory to me when I was walking off the stage with the writing award. They gave me a high five. Like, have no qualms against them in my book.
01:35:15
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None. But if you guys had seen this, I think you would have thought that it was a joke.
01:35:29
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And I will say, i don't know how the voting works. So there are city producers that put on and organize each of the city's 48-hour festivals.
01:35:43
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They're not the vote. I don't know if they vote, maybe they do, but they're not the final vote because we had the main producer both reach out to me on Facebook and tell me in person and also talk to me about it recently a few weeks ago at the Austin Short Film Showcase that just how special ours was to her, which was she had very nice words and I'm very appreciative of that.
01:36:07
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so Such a super lovely, nice person. Very, very lovely. And which i like and and it meant a lot, but then i was just like, oh, I wonder how the voting actually works then.
01:36:20
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like I thought you guys come would kind of be on it. Not sure who else is like on this quote-unquote board, but they're obviously not the final say. So we're kind of in the dark with exactly how that works, but needless to say, we were...
01:36:37
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Shocked.
01:36:40
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We were taken aback. Just a bit. But it's okay. Sounds we're but to cry. But it's like it it is okay. Like we're we're getting into the whole thing.
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01:36:52
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but don't want to come off salty. We're all very proud of of what we made. And we had a really fun time doing it. And comparing this to at first sight was it was it was it was just It was really good.
01:37:11
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It was a really fun time.
01:37:14
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I agree. i don't regret either time. And I never will. And so this year we're not going to be doing 48 hour fest.
01:37:30
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think we're done so with that, which is okay. You're in New York, right? For that. Like I can't do it. Yeah. So we, our original trip, we were going to come back Wednesday and it was still shaky if we were going to do it because it kicks off that Friday.
01:37:42
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But since the dogs are gone, we, we just YOLO'd it up yesterday and I was like, let's just extend the trip. So we're going to stay out there until Saturday. Yeah. And I'm not going to use all your stuff without you. So we're really not doing it.
01:37:55
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Yeah. so we're not doing it this year. I do think it was a really great ah jumping off point for us. And I got to talk a little bit to the crowd at the short film showcase a few weeks ago about the 48 and was kind of just talking about that's like starting off. Like I felt very stuck with just ideas and kind of this anxiety of like,
01:38:15
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just getting started and putting pen to paper and getting out and doing something. And the 48 hour kind of forces you to do exactly that. So I do think it was a great jumping off point for us, but we've got plans to, to do stuff outside of the 48. There's a couple of other festivals, local festivals that Austin does.
01:38:32
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think Alex and i are very interested in an Austin, the Austin horror fest and shoot like a horror short film. So I think that could be coming next.
01:38:45
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I agree. um Everyone keeps telling us not to do a horror for our next show. Everyone. It's literally us. Everybody. Cam said don't. Miles, who would be our lead actor, said he doesn't want to do it.
01:38:58
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And Malik and I, every time they hate on
Surreal Anesthesia Experience
01:39:01
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horror, just go. We're just like, shut up. We're just like. But what if we did? It could be a really good movie.
01:39:09
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And you know what? I believe in I think it's going to be good.
01:39:16
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i We probably need to start planning it. It is almost the summer. We do. But that's why I think it was important for us to announce that we are going to be attempting to submit a film to the Austin Horror Fest. We have to say it out loud.
01:39:31
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Yeah. We will... um get the people excited. Now we have our, our fandom. They're all going to show up. Lost in the frame hive is going to come sway the vote. Framies rise.
01:39:44
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Framers. Framers. The framers hive is strong. I like framers. I like that too. You guys are now all the framers. So yeah, that is our, uh, our filmmaking experience thus far.
01:39:59
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Um, yeah. Yeah. Any ah final thoughts on our recent short film, our previous short film, or the future?
01:40:14
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Go watch Callback. Give it some love. And pray you never have to see At First Sight. Real quick, I'm going to send, I know I talked to you about this in the group chat or I texted you, um but so at the Austin Short Film Showcase, there is a winner each month and all of the winners at the end of the year um have ah like their own award screener.
01:40:36
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We didn't win. We didn't win that night, which is totally okay because the film that did was straight up like one of the best short films I've ever seen. I have the link. I found it on Vimeo. I'm going to send it to you. Please do.
01:40:48
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i didn't see it. So I'm under the impression he's making it up and he's just covering for the fact that we lost again. no man. Like it played. It was long. um It was it was like 30 minutes, like 25 to 30 minutes. I think so. It's pretty long.
01:41:03
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But like it was really good. It was really good. And so I was just like, take it, please. But I'll send it to you. good stuff there. And it it really just made me excited to, to do something else as well.
01:41:16
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So it was, wish you were, I wish you could have been there. It was a really fun experience. um Yeah.
01:41:26
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I probably could have been actually, except here's the weird thing. And this is so unmovie related. um Had some weird anesthesia side effects. I could walk around.
01:41:37
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I like, if I was in the right head space, I physically could have gone. I was legitimately losing my mind. It was weird. Can you tell, to close us out, can you tell them about the the dream you had while under?
01:41:52
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Oh, I did have a dream while I was under. Um, Yeah, they um so they wheel me into the the operating room, and it's cold, and it's that gray linoleum hospital room, and the lights are in my face, and I'm surrounded by faceless ghosts with lights for eyes.
01:42:15
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And they're putting a mask on my mouth, and it tastes disgusting, and they say they're going to shove a tube down my throat. And I'm alone in a surgical room. you know There's no one... No one that i love or care for there with me and I'm alone and I'm scared.
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01:42:32
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And um because I mean, think about it. If anything goes wrong with the anesthesia, i legit could not have woken up. Yeah, that could have been it. um But they said when I was breathing in the anesthesia, um they said pick a nice dream.
01:42:50
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And I dreamt I was hanging out with Malik and we were talking movies. That's so sweet. Yep. That's the best fan mail.
01:43:02
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Yeah. And ah that was that was the only thing I remember from between Going Under and Waking Up. and I don't remember what movie we were talking about, but we were sitting in my living room we were talking movies. I love that. That's literally so sweet.
01:43:16
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i know. so it's chat do it's what we do it is what we do and uh i know we'll be doing it for quite a long time we will and we will be back with more lost in the frame episodes but thank you guys so much for listening to hearing us talk a little bit about our filmmaking journey thus far um stay tuned for more movie news movie reviews and movie dudes And Tachi will return. Tachi will return. Somehow Tachi returned. Somehow Tachi has returned.
01:43:51
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All right. ah Don't forget to ah leave a like, comment, review, what have you. Leave some fan mail. DM us. We'll read it. But thank you always so much. We talk about it.
01:44:01
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Yes. Thank you. We might even call you out for reading Alvin and the Chipmunks fanfic. Yes. Yeah, we will. We're going to start doxing people. So be ready for that. All right. That's a plan.
01:44:13
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