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Lost In The Frame - The Daddy Episode
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This week on Lost In The Frame, a Fathers Day themed discussion on movie and TV dads. Link to The 100 Best Movies of the 2020s
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Introduction and Episode Topic
00:00:15
Speaker
Welcome back to Lost in the Frame. I'm your host, Malik. I'm your host, Alex. I'm your host, Tachi. And today, we're going to talk about some daddies.
00:00:26
Speaker
But first, how are you guys doing? um'm a I'm doing good. I can't wait to talk about these daddies. Specifically movie daddies.
00:00:38
Speaker
Wait, what? Oh, yeah. Sorry. oh cra Oh, crud. How are you doing, T-Money? Doing great. I'm also ready to talk about these movie daddies.
00:00:50
Speaker
I think think we love, we have a special connection to daddies. Being daddies ourselves. Would you agree?
00:00:58
Speaker
I think.
00:01:01
Speaker
Sure. Yeah, we we got some fun segments for today. But before we get into all of that, we've got some movie news to kick off today's episode.
Movie-Themed Food Crossovers
00:01:09
Speaker
um Alex, I think you put this first link about True Moo. I figured that that was you.
00:01:16
Speaker
How'd you know? it That screamed you. Yes, I saw this this Twitter link floating around. I don't don't know how true it is, I'm going to guess it's true. But True Moo is apparently releasing Fantastic Four-themed milk, and it's like kind of blue.
00:01:37
Speaker
You want to tell me why wanted to talk about that?
00:01:43
Speaker
I like milk.
00:01:46
Speaker
I'm intrigued in the Fantastic Four. Interesting crossover. wanted to talk about it. It feels like one of those like early 2000s kind of crossovers we used to get like the Spider-Man Pop-Tarts.
00:01:59
Speaker
There was, um didn't a Burger King have like a green burger for Shrek or something? They currently have a red burger for how to train your dragon. And I actually got Burger King last night and I saw it on the menu and i was just like, I thought about it. Nah, nah, can't do that.
00:02:14
Speaker
And the guy asked me what I wanted for a drink and I said a strawberry lemonade. And he goes, all right, do you want the regular one or the dragon one? And I just like, I sat there in silence and I was like, just the regular one.
00:02:26
Speaker
But immediately I regretted. I should have gotten the dragon one. Don't know what that means. What is the dragon lemonade? I don't know. i also, yeah i think you're the only person I know who's admitted to eating Burger King in like the last five years. Wait, actually people don't eat Burger King?
00:02:43
Speaker
Yeah, I haven't eaten it in like She's probably over a decade. When my brother was in town the other day, he told me, admitted out loud, that he was craving Burger King.
00:02:54
Speaker
Well, I don't see anything wrong with that. You do you. and I mean, I do. I am willing. i have a lot of fond memories of my childhood like from Burger King. And i'm I'd be willing to try it again.
00:03:08
Speaker
It's just a burger. Just burger? Yeah, but it's like... think I'm comparing it like obviously the last time I had it, but it's such thing. It's just Tachi's fuming.
00:03:23
Speaker
Okay. I mean, there's, there's obviously tears of burgers, but like I never met a burger. I didn't like, Oh, I guess we can't argue there. You know? Yeah.
00:03:34
Speaker
So, I mean, I don't know. That's, that's, that's what I have to say about that. But I might go back tonight to find out what this dragon lemonade is.
Toy Story 5 and Pixar Rumors
00:03:42
Speaker
I mean, we're going to probably finish recording pretty late. Whatever the dragon lemonade is, I'm sure it would not be a good amount of sugar before bed.
00:03:52
Speaker
i'd be i think I'll be okay. um So you're excited for the milk? Excited for the milk. um I'm trying to think of a good cereal to use with this milk. Oops, all berries. I think that would be a good cereal to have with this berry blue milk.
00:04:10
Speaker
let me like Before we even continue, I need to see if this is real. What? As long as it's not like the arms. The True Moo Milk Fantastic Four. Because we could be getting got live on the podcast. and that's what i mean It was on Twitter, so it's got to be true, right?
00:04:26
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i Sure. Yeah, this is Elon Musk's internet. Everything's true.
00:04:35
Speaker
I'm going to choose to believe it's real. Okay. Okay. I also see a Reed Richards popcorn bucket. Did you see that? it Okay, it is it is actually real. It is on the Trumer website. do you guys... Do you want to hear the nutritional value facts? Please.
00:04:54
Speaker
Alright, so... For Fantastic Four 1% low-fat milk. Half-gallon. Serving size, one cup. There's eight servings per container.
00:05:05
Speaker
Guess how many calories? 475 per serving. 150. Oh, I didn't let Tachi guess. i was about to say 150.
00:05:16
Speaker
Damn. Tachi's winning. He's winning the True Moo quiz. All right, Malik, you're down one point. It's got sugar. twenty twelve grams of added sugar which let it let us guess on Let us guess on the protein when you get there.
00:05:35
Speaker
Okay, protein is the next one. I'm not going read all of them. Unless you want to read all of them. All right. Tachi, guess on the protein. Per serving? Yeah. going go...
00:05:52
Speaker
go 8. I think some of the berries take away protein value. Malik, you hit it the nail on the head. 8 grams protein for 23% It's got a amount of vitamin in it. 50% of your daily value.
00:06:06
Speaker
the the sugars is twenty three percent sugars it's got a crazy amount of vitamin b twelve in it
Barbenheimer and Cinema's Impact
00:06:13
Speaker
fifty percent of your daily value So is this a recommendation, the loss in the frame recommendation to get True Moo Blue Milk?
00:06:21
Speaker
Or are we going to... You know what? Oh, if I wasn't going New Orleans this weekend, I'd go to the grocery store and get some. Wait, when does it when is it out? I'm assuming now if it's on the website.
00:06:33
Speaker
I can check my H-E-B app. I think for the next episode, we need to get some Fantastic Four milk and record ourselves trying it. Oh, we totally should. Should we c chug a gallon of it?
00:06:45
Speaker
We're going to have to stop mid-recording so I could use the bathroom after that one. um Pixar news, Toy Story 5, and today is the 15-year anniversary today of Toy Story 3's release.
00:07:02
Speaker
How do we feel about Toy Story 5? I don't care. i like the concept of the villain they teased. And for those unaware, it's like apparently like a kid's iPad um that knows what's best for Bonnie.
00:07:15
Speaker
I like that too. I think it's pretty neat, but I don't really care. How long do you think they're going to true moon milk this franchise? Nice. Thanks.
00:07:28
Speaker
A long time, I think.
00:07:31
Speaker
Probably until Bonnie grows up and then we get Toy Story 6 rehash. They're just going to keep doing it. We're going to keep going in circles. Because I don't think these toys age.
00:07:42
Speaker
That's crazy because a lot of the toys I had when I was a kid, like still have some of them. And man, if you were to play with them, like the way a kid plays with them, they wouldn't be doing too well. Man, I wish I still had some of the toys when I was a kid.
00:07:55
Speaker
I saw this TikTok yesterday of a someone putting their Master Chief action figure into cryo sleep. Like you got a he got some Tupperware, put some water, and then put him in the freezer.
00:08:07
Speaker
And I used to do that all the time. I had like an entire like Batman set, like with like villains, Batman, Robin, and everything. And I had a Mr. or Freeze. And I had so many storylines going. But anytime Mr. Freeze came back, he would take Robin...
00:08:22
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And freeze him. And so I would put Robin in a little cup and freeze him overnight and then have him like on display like while Batman's trying to get him.
IndieWire's Top 100 Movies of the 2020s
00:08:32
Speaker
Wow.
00:08:34
Speaker
That's you. That's iconic. That's that's actually cinema. It really was. My mom's probably just watching me in the corner just like hand over her mouth just concerned. This kid is 15.
00:08:47
Speaker
She's calling someone to run some tests on you. Yeah. we yeah The other Pixar news was they're stealing Flo's Flow and doing a hand-painted movie about a cat who lives in Venice.
00:09:00
Speaker
is that Is that what we're thinking we're they're doing? Stealing Flo's Flow? Yeah, like they're kind of trying to hop on this um this hype train? Yeah, like the cat wagon?
00:09:12
Speaker
Yeah. probably uh disney isn't known for being original these days so so yeah so i wouldn't put it past them i i think i like browsed by this tweet um but i wasn't sure if like you had put it down because you were excited for it but you just think that they're stealing flows flow i think they are but i will also be seated same i'm a hypocrite just that screenshot looks so beautiful I'm a big cat guy, so we we like cats.
00:09:41
Speaker
We do. In other news, Tom Cruise will be getting an honorary Oscar at this year's Academy Awards. I think that's well-deserved. had a quote I had a quote here from the... I might have lost it.
00:09:55
Speaker
I wish they kept it a surprise, though. Yeah, why do why announce it now? Oh, wait, here's the quote real quick. ah For his commitment to our filmmaking community, to the theatrical experience, and to the stunts community.
00:10:07
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I think we had the announcement of the stunts category that will be added, what, in like two years to the Oscars? And everyone kind of was just like, cool, yeah, do a stunts category after like the biggest...
00:10:21
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one of the biggest action franchises ends and not give Tom his Oscar. And so I think they're kind of retroactively backpedaling a bit and they're like, Ooh, here you go, Tom. Like a legacy thing.
00:10:33
Speaker
Yeah. I do wish they kept that as a surprise though. I was surprised to see this right now. Well, they're probably trying to generate clicks and eyes for the Oscars.
00:10:44
Speaker
Like, Oh, I could see Tom Cruise get his honorary Oscar in eight months. Yeah, a bit early. Oh, well. It's cool, though.
00:10:56
Speaker
Good job, Tom. Thanks, Tom. you. What's this Christmas Carol by Robert Eggers? He does horror, right? Yeah, he did Nosferatu, The Northman.
00:11:07
Speaker
The witch. Guess what? Willem Dafoe is starring in it. Scrooge? Yeah. but A Robert Eggers Christmas Carol. That could be interesting.
00:11:18
Speaker
I'm so excited for that. I think it'll be awesome. That'll be really cool. Listen, the more Willem we get, the happier I am. if Yeah, any anytime Willem is playing just like a freak with Robert Eggers, I'm seated.
00:11:35
Speaker
He plays such a good like freaky little guy. The theater employee said this movie has isn't even made yet, but I'm so seated. right. and Oh, you want to read this one? were you going to Did you write this one?
00:11:48
Speaker
I did. um I don't know the validity to this, but there are rumors of a fourth installment to a very storied Disney franchise. um And that is High School Musical 4.
00:12:01
Speaker
No. Is in production. No way. And supposedly they're moving forward with or without Zac Efron. So we'll see. i guess they're under contract negotiations, maybe. Huh.
00:12:14
Speaker
ah Well, I guess it's not that shocking. Wasn't there a high school musical show? ah Maybe. think there was. I want to say there was. What...
00:12:26
Speaker
Could they do with the original cast and still have it be high school musical, like a reunion? i was about to say reunion. This is the maverick of high school musical. Dude.
00:12:36
Speaker
It's gotta be. Zach's gonna be teaching the new hot jock not only the moves on the court, but how he can move his throat. Wait.
00:12:52
Speaker
I meant how, like, like singing.
00:12:57
Speaker
Okay.
00:13:03
Speaker
What the hell?
00:13:08
Speaker
We need some alarms or sirens going we we I think the rest of us need access to the soundboard. Agreed. like somehow I'm going to get you guys our own little soundboard thing so we're all in control of it.
00:13:22
Speaker
High School 4 could be just fine. Probably we'll just be fine. Mid. We'll see. We'll see. Will I be sat? I will.
00:13:35
Speaker
What do you guys know about Pixar's Elio? Elio? Nothing. but The Alien movie? I don't know what it is. i didn't even know Pixar had a new movie coming out. I heard it got better reviews than Elemental, which isn't saying much.
00:13:48
Speaker
No. Y'all didn't like Elemental? Pretty boring. God, pissed me off. Yeah, I didn't really like it that much either. The end of the movie, and I i said this to you, Malik, the end of the movie was, I don't know if it was intentional or not, but if it was, it's really bad, and if it's not, Disney's just stupid.
00:14:10
Speaker
Tachi, have you um heard my take about the end of the movie? What the message actually was? Nope. It was a pro-gentrification movie.
00:14:20
Speaker
You know, the end of the movie, it's like, oh, fire town. you know, it's all like got to get those fire people out of here. And then at the like, you know, because their food is too hot and it burns me and this and that. And they're all scary and they're dangerous.
00:14:35
Speaker
And the movie ends with not fire town being integrated into the rest of the city, element city or whatever it was called. No, all the water people and the grass people came and gentrified Firetown and dumbed down all the fire aspects of it to impinge on their culture.
00:14:59
Speaker
I think the Illuminati is at work. and I can see the logical jump to that because... That's pretty messed up. No, that makes that makes sense. yeah Yeah. The ending, like, Illuminati jokes aside, if they're jokes, they're not.
00:15:18
Speaker
I think the the ending of the movie was so messed up.
00:15:23
Speaker
Yeah, it just wasn't very ambitious at all. I feel like they didn't take any chances. ah was really let down. And the water dude was annoying as hell. Remember when they tried to make a meme for that movie?
00:15:36
Speaker
With Claude? No. Grass guy. No. You don't remember that? I don't remember because i see this trend of movies constantly doing that.
00:15:47
Speaker
Like trying to make like trying to go organic. Yeah. Trying to go viral and trying to make like organic conversation. Like I just saw the new Jurassic Park movie that's coming out. There was, there's some like little creature, I guess, in this clip.
00:16:01
Speaker
And like they tweeted, they're just like, oh my God, we would die for whatever this character's name is. And everyone was like, we don't know who this is. Like, you can't force a viral moment.
00:16:12
Speaker
Yeah. So I'm not shocked that they tried to do that with Elemental. Everyone's trying to make Barbenheimer the thing. And no one has enough Barben for the Heimer.
00:16:23
Speaker
I agree. Man, Barbenheimer was such a... What a moment. That was truly, I think, one of those, like, cultural you had to be there moments. It really was. It was... i like That was huge. i mean You couldn't get away from it, and it was a special thing to be around.
00:16:38
Speaker
I still have my Barbenheimer poster that I need to frame. and Both movies were great, which was cherry on top. Yeah. like It wasn't just a joke.
00:16:50
Speaker
It was a joke, but good one.
00:16:56
Speaker
A good one. um To cap off our movie news before we get into the daddies... IndieWire just released their 100 best movies of the 2020s. And boy, are there some takes here. And I think we have a few of our own too.
00:17:12
Speaker
I don't know how much we wanted to cover, but Alex, it sounded like you had some ah initial feelings. Yeah, I mean, the holdovers, for starters, the holdovers being absent on this list is a complete travesty.
00:17:25
Speaker
Stupid. It's really stupid. I'm pissed off. And you should be too. Wake up, America. Keep in mind. Whatever other country you're listening from.
00:17:36
Speaker
Keep in mind, this is the hundred best movies of the 2020s. Number 100 starts us off hot with Megalopolis. More like Mega Slopolis.
00:17:52
Speaker
Got him. Oh, I didn't mean push it again. You got him. And I think you were mad at me, Alex, for being mad that this was included. I wasn't mad. I was no not mad but being silly.
00:18:06
Speaker
ah was having a little silly boy moment. I was being silly because I don't think Megalopolis is like actually a good movie, but I think a everyone needs to watch it and be, it needs to become culturally important.
00:18:20
Speaker
I think it does need to be talked about probably for forever. It's, it is why it's because it's incredible. but it It truly is. i think Megalopolis seeing it in theaters was, i wish I saw it with somebody,
00:18:36
Speaker
But seeing it in theaters was one of the most transcendent cinema experiences I've ever had. i mean, at the end of the movie, after everything happens in it, some guy at the like the front of the theater gets up and he's like, what just happened? What's your piss? What was that? like And I think the hour, what was it, hour 45 minutes, was worth it just for that.
Mount Rushmore of Movie Dads
00:19:04
Speaker
I mean, Megalopolis is like, I think ah it's probably the closest I've ever seen a movie approaching on like the parabola of being good.
00:19:16
Speaker
And then it just gets so close and then takes a massive dive bomb because it's so insane and absurd. like That could have been a really great movie.
00:19:29
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It had the bones of a good movie. Maybe. I'm not sure. I loved seeing this in theaters as well. I think I had the perfect experience.
00:19:40
Speaker
I was completely alone in that theater. think that's how I think that's how it's meant to be seen. In solitude. In solitude, but with the biggest screen and like the best sound system that you could possibly have.
00:19:53
Speaker
Sensory deprivation tank and it's just megalopolis. Yeah. So we're not off to a great start there. I want to shout out number 97. We got Babylon. but Yeah, too low. Too low.
00:20:05
Speaker
It's too low. Dune Part 2 at 95 is insane. That's a little low for me, honestly. Like, it doesn't need to be top 10, but it's pretty low. 95? Yeah.
00:20:17
Speaker
You're joking. Also, Mission Impossible Dead Reckoning at 60? That's crazy. Yeah, like... We all like Ethan Hunt.
00:20:30
Speaker
Dead Reckoning is not... Yeah. Dead Reckoning's not there.
00:20:36
Speaker
Now down, like, we can we can link this list in the show notes for you guys, so you can go and review it yourself, and I'm sure at some point we might dive deeper into it, because it's just take after take after take to talk about.
00:20:50
Speaker
um But the top ten, I think, are... worth calling out and i'd love to hear y'all's opinion on it so number 10 is decision to leave directed by park chan wu from 2022 that's one of his i really want to see i loved old boy love the handmaiden i'm sure i'd love that one i've only heard good things about it same um have you have you seen that one tachi i'm not okay so that one should be on all of our watch lists Number nine is Drive My Car.
00:21:19
Speaker
Have you guys seen that? I haven't, but I have an unopened Criterion copy of it. Here's my hot take about Drive My Car. People love this movie. I didn't, like, it just didn't hit for me.
00:21:34
Speaker
I was very whelmed when I went and so when i went i saw it. I'm really excited to watch this one, too. I will. Would you still say that we should watch it, Alex?
00:21:46
Speaker
Yes. Yes, I think you should. Because it it could resonate with you. Yeah. I just think and in that moment in time, it did not with me. And I would be willing to give it a second chance. Okay, cool.
00:21:58
Speaker
Number eight is Time, directed by Garrett Bradley from 2020. I believe this is a documentary. Yeah, I've not heard of this. Um, but how do you convey a full length of 21 years in the span of a single film, let alone documentary that 81 minutes? That's pretty interesting. Yeah. Um, I like, like the sound of that.
00:22:22
Speaker
Here's one that I think we can all agree probably deserve to be on the list, but number seven is way too high. Top Gun Maverick. Like at seven, that's a bit high.
00:22:33
Speaker
I, or in 2025, I think I could do, I'd be comfortable putting it in the top 25. Maybe at, maybe at number 25. Yeah. I think that's completely fair, but like seven is just, I mean, cause we had at least, at least for me personally, there were like four or five movies from 2023 that I would put above this like immediately.
00:22:58
Speaker
Um, do you think maybe it's on this list? Um, if we remember back when this came out, like movie theaters were starting to reopen and like mid, like early to mid 2021, there really hadn't been a big tentpole movie since pre COVID.
00:23:17
Speaker
Um, and this was kind of the one that like gave theaters like juice again, that like breathed some life. I think that has something to do with it. Yeah. I'd agree with that.
00:23:27
Speaker
Mm hmm. So number six, Lovers Rock, directed by Steve McQueen, which I haven't seen, but it's 68 minutes, so quick watch. Oh, nice. as Tachi, have you seen that? Because it sounds like Malik hasn't seen it. I have not.
00:23:46
Speaker
Number five, I respect this take so much. Boy in the Heron, directed by Hayao Miyazaki. Tachi, you're a big shooter for this movie, right? i I am and I'm not. like I really, really enjoyed it, but it didn't like change me.
00:24:06
Speaker
I wouldn't put it at five myself, but I respect the author of this list so much for putting it at five. Because I think it it could be someone's top five and I can easily see it being so.
00:24:19
Speaker
For me, it's on the list somewhere in the top 100. I'd probably put it around like 25 to 30 range. I was thinking top 25. Yeah. I could live with that. We should just do our own episode of this. Man, we we totally could.
00:24:33
Speaker
i think, I mean, a few more of these ah movie websites release their top hundreds throughout the year. So we could definitely break it down. There should be a way that if we like did our picks, we could like aggregate them.
00:24:47
Speaker
Yeah.
00:24:49
Speaker
This is the only podcast where you hear us plan future episodes on the actual... As we're talking. Yeah. I mean, you you don't get this anywhere else, folks. Number four is Tar, directed by Todd Field.
00:25:02
Speaker
I think that's a very respectable
Trash Tier Dads
00:25:04
Speaker
pick. I think this is kind of a base choice. I think it is. I think that's a movie that's going to age better than what it lost to in the Oscars.
00:25:13
Speaker
I agree. ah Yeah, I think number four is kind of... Again, kind of high, but top 15. Number three, Aftersun.
00:25:28
Speaker
People really, really love this movie. Yes, they do. i watched it I watched it a couple of years ago, and I really liked it. And I feel it in the last couple years i've seen I've seen the fan base for this grow a lot more. And it makes me want to rewatch it. Because I don't think I got the same emotional effect that I see a lot of people online talk about.
00:25:53
Speaker
Same. Same. Completely agree. Tachi, did you see it? Nope.
00:26:01
Speaker
ah In the top 10, I'm just scrolling through it. I've only seen two. So... Which ones? Boy and... Maverick and Boy the hair and the Heron, yeah. Okay, well, number two, i know Malik has seen it because we went and saw this one together.
00:26:17
Speaker
And I personally think it's it should be in the top ten. So this is one where I'm like, I'm cool with this pick. Zone of Interest, directed by Jonathan Glazer. This movie was... yeah yeah i feel like you had to see it in theaters.
00:26:32
Speaker
And I was just floored by it. um I don't think a movie has stuck with me as much as this movie did. And I don't really even see it as like a movie. I almost will see it as like a moving art piece, like a almost like a museum piece, a memorial.
00:26:49
Speaker
That's what it felt like. It didn't really feel like a movie. Yeah, I think I think exactly how you described it maybe is why I need to rewatch it. there's There's been so many movies like going into something with kind of expectations of just having the expectation that this might be something and it being something else and maybe not being in the right headspace for it.
00:27:10
Speaker
I think that was this for me. like I see what it is and I enjoyed it. Will we watch it? You enjoyed it? ah Yeah, see? that's And this was the conversation we had in the in the parking lot after. like like it was hard to It's hard to talk about.
00:27:29
Speaker
No, I wasn't even getting that deep. I was just saying, you liked it? You liked what you saw on screen? It gave you enjoyment? I just remember that was like exactly what we said when the credits rolled and we went outside. And number one, and this is actually one where I had a discussion with a listener of ours about this, and um I actually compared it to the zone of interest.
00:27:59
Speaker
Number one is The Nickel Boys from last year.
00:28:04
Speaker
I like The Nickel Boys. I like it too. ah i I really like this movie. I really liked it a lot, too. I think I saw a lot of people hating on it as number one.
00:28:14
Speaker
I wouldn't put it number one, but people like don't like this movie. And i can kind of understand why I think it swung for the fences in like the first person point of view style it did. But oh, my goodness, was it powerful?
00:28:30
Speaker
I don't even think, yeah, I saw a lot of people saying like that that first person POV didn't really work for them. I thought it was excellent. Like, yeah i don't see being I don't see it detracting from the story at all. like And it didn't even seem like that big of a swing to me.
00:28:44
Speaker
No, it was a little confusing at first, just trying to figure out like who, especially when the second character gets introduced. like Who am I? like who am i who Who are we? but i mean therere it' just I think it added to like how visceral that movie was.
00:29:01
Speaker
and I ended up reading the book after. and this is ah This is a Pulitzer Prize winning novel. and I think the movie did a way better job at telling the story. and I think it did so...
00:29:14
Speaker
I think part of it was this, this first person, like, this is what you're experiencing kind of vibe that it gave it. I mean, it was just,
00:29:26
Speaker
I, I, I think this movie in five years will be remembered a lot more fondly. I think, yeah I think it, it's fan base will grow. Out of this top 10, what would you guys put as number one?
00:29:41
Speaker
Zone. I put zone. Good question.
00:29:47
Speaker
Out of the top 10, what would I put as number one?
00:29:53
Speaker
I don't know.
00:29:56
Speaker
I don't know. Choose. Gun to your head. Alright, fine. Tar. Okay. Respect. I added all these to my watch list. Which one should I prioritize? For the audience.
00:30:10
Speaker
Listeners. We'll put a poll. What movie should Tati watch next? I would say check out tar. Yeah, I would say, I would say check out tar just because the, there's like four of them that I haven't seen.
00:30:28
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um but I really, I think in the near future, I'll probably watch decision to leave and then drive my car out of this list. When you watch decision to leave, let me know.
00:30:38
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Okay. Watch together. Okay. That'd be cool. yeah All right. Cool. I think it's time to talk about the daddies now. isn't that a great se Isn't that a great segue? I'm ready to talk about the daddies. All right. I got this sound, um but before we started recording, both of you guys kind of said that the audience might have a hard time determining if this is actually one of us saying it.
00:31:01
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If I play this sound, which I'm about to play, it's not us talking. It just means we're about to talk about some daddies. Here we go. Who's your daddy?
00:31:10
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o yes good daddy That's that. It just keeps going. It does. It's about 30 seconds long. I haven't listened to the full thing. It's maybe that's how I'll end the episode.
00:31:21
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I don't like it. Of all the sounds you found, this was my least favorite. I want you to play it at the very end. I will. but We have a few segments here around the daddies for our first segment. We are going to create a Mount Rushmore of movie dads.
00:31:37
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but we're We're doing this because Father's Day just happened. oh yeah Just for the audience. for not just like There's a little bit of context here. i think it's important. okay yeah The context is it was Father's Day. The deeper context is I don't have a father. So
00:31:57
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so we're going make some. What were the categories?
00:32:03
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The segments we have for today is the Mount Rushmore of movie dads. Second segment, trash tier dads. Segment three, who's your daddy? Where we pick a dream daddy team for the for some categories. And then we're going to cap it off with some dad movie recommendations.
00:32:20
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We're going begin with the Mount Rushmore of movie dads. As a podcast, we are going to have four movie dads at the end of this. And we each have some picks that we want on this mountain.
00:32:37
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I can't go first. I can't go first. I'll go first. This one is... ah This one I think will belong on the Mount Rushmore. Marlin from Finding Nemo. Oh.
00:32:50
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but That's a good pick. We all love Finding Nemo. This man traversed oceans to find his son. He fought sharks. He made some friends along the way.
00:33:02
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Almost died. Ended up... In all these crazy scenarios. He rode a turt. He rode turt through the freaking tube. Rode a turt to the tube.
00:33:13
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The EAC.
00:33:16
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And Finding Nemo was just so... That score... It's beautiful. It's beautiful. Just the when the V end comes up at the very end, there's always tears in my eyes.
00:33:31
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It's such a good movie. It really is. Great pick. Do you guys know how clownfish biology works?
00:33:40
Speaker
No. No, you don't want me to talk about it? No, I don't know how it works. I do want you to talk about it. say ah So I'm pretty sure that like I think if Because Nemo's mom died.
00:33:58
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Then I think Nemo... One of Marlin or Nemo would turn into a girl. And then I think continued the bloodline. Oh, really?
00:34:09
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How progressive. Wow. That's neat. So Marlin would be like Marley. Ooh. Marlena.
00:34:20
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I'm pulling this up while we think of new names. Good thing no one can fact check us. We can just say things. And that's just the truth. Tachi, you want to give us one of your... Yeah.
00:34:32
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My first one, I'm going to go with ah Bill Nae from About Time. Oh, yeah. um It's like the one that popped in my head immediately. Yeah.
00:34:44
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I feel like his character rode the line so finely of one, just being really supportive and providing the wisdom that his son needs when he needs it, but also giving him the space and the freedom to just like,
00:35:02
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make his own decisions learn to live with them and just experience life as he's i guess kind of meant to i mean he can go back in time but um yeah i don't know he was just really really interestingly written and beautifully he's great yeah and uh their final scene together in the movie is just Everyone needs to watch that.
00:35:31
Speaker
Yeah. Everybody. That's just, I can't think about that scene without tearing up. It's hard. Is it my turn to pick a dad? Pick a daddy. Oh, I'm going to go. I'm going to, I'm going to go with my heritage here.
00:35:49
Speaker
Pull one from my people. Uh, we're going to go Guido from La Vita e Bella, which is an Italian movie. Um, yeah, One best foreign picture. i don't know if you guys have ever seen this one, but it's about this guy in, uh, Italy during the 1940s.
00:36:11
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And, um, he has a son and he helps his son navigate some of the turmoils that being a young Jewish boy in the 1940s in Italy would bring.
00:36:25
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And, um, This movie actually was one that I had heard about for years and years and years and years before I actually saw it.
00:36:36
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And it's because it was, i guess when it came out, it was crowned the feel good movie of the year 1998, 1997. One of those years I had just been born. Like, i I don't even think I was a year old yet. I was still in the crib.
00:36:50
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So my mom, you know, being fresh off of, you know, pregnancy and being a brand new mother watched this movie because, oh, it's so feel good.
00:36:59
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I heard for 15 years about how traumatized and how much that movie made her cry. She had to stand over my crib and weep. Oh, and I watched it like 15 years later in Italian class in high school.
00:37:15
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And it's a, it is that good. It is genuinely like just wild. Roberto Benigni, I think does a very good job of, uh,
00:37:29
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towing the line of comedy and drama with that movie. What's it called again? Uh, La Vita Bella, uh, translates to life is beautiful. It's one of my personal favorite movies ever. I give it a 10 out of 10.
00:37:45
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Um, I've seen it like four or five times now. It's very highly rated. do spell it? It won best, uh, best foreign feature at the Oscars. It's a life is beautiful and letterboxd.
00:37:57
Speaker
Okay. Okay. It's my watch list. Same. All right, Malik, do you have another pick? Yeah. um We also included ah father figures and fathers from TV.
00:38:10
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So we're not siloed specifically to film. So for my next one, I chose a fun one. Phil from Modern Family. Oh. You guys watch Modern Family? Seen bits and pieces.
00:38:22
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Okay. Well, Phil is just a he just a silly, goofy guy, you know? We love that. he He can draw the line between being serious and just being...
00:38:34
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sincere and also really funny and modern family is one of my favorite sitcoms so that i will put my hat down and say he belongs on the mount rushmore of movie dads what do you feel all right i guess i'm next i'm gonna go with steve carell in beautiful boy oh i also have that oh really i do nice yeah uh this movie is heartbreaking in whole different way compared to about time but yeah he just From what I can remember, it just seems like he has this unconditional and boundless love um for his son, played by ah Timothy Chiawame.
00:39:14
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Really great, but hard to watch movie. i need to see it. Yeah, definitely recommend it. It's one of my favorite Steve Carell and Timothee Chalamet performances for sure. Yeah, it's pretty brutal. Based a true story as well. From what I hear, it's more like Timothee Chalamet, am I right? Pretty much. It's very accurate. Based on a true story as well.
00:39:40
Speaker
Don't do meth. Yeah, don't do that. Yeah, please don't. That's the official loss in the frame. Yeah. Lost in the Frame does not endorse meth usage. You heard it here first.
00:39:52
Speaker
That's a great pick. Yeah, i like that. Before Alex's pick, I just want to ask if we're doing honorable mentions now or later or at all. Your honorable mentions can be your whole list.
00:40:03
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We'll have them all down. ah Actually, I probably write write them all down, and then we're going to decide what four we think should go on the Mount Rushmore. Let's talk Train to Busan. Ooh, good pick.
00:40:14
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Oh, wow. We're to go Sang-wa. He's not technically a full-on dad yet, but his wife is pregnant. And for anyone who has or has seen Train to Busan and doesn't know which character I'm talking about, I'm talking about the the second guy. Kind of like a bigger dude who just gets all up in the main character's grill the whole time.
00:40:36
Speaker
That guy rocks. yeah That guy rocks. And that movie is, I'm going to say it, my favorite zombie movie I've ever seen. respect it.
00:40:49
Speaker
It's fun. But Sang-Wang, that guy rips. The whole movie is just him being a Chad. The giga dad. In the best way. I like that pick.
00:41:00
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I'm not mad at it. My next one, I've got Liam Neeson in Taken. That was literally my next pick. Is it? I mean, how could it not be? How could it not be?
00:41:13
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He's got a particular set of skills. He does. And he uses them. like i Like, I think we forget as a society how much of an impact Taken had.
00:41:26
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Like, that was the movie moment. It me gripped. It really did. had a grippy it had grippy on America. Yeah. i don't know how I don't know what Liam Neeson is up to now. but He's filming The Naked Gun. Oh, that's right. That's right. That's right.
00:41:41
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But if I was ever kidnapped and Liam Neeson was my dad, I wouldn't be stressed at all. I can't speak to the sequels of Taken. i don't know who keeps getting taken.
00:41:55
Speaker
But I'm sure he got them. So I'm putting my hat in for him. I mean, at some point, if it's the daughter that keeps taking it, some point, like he's got to just be like, figure it out, honey. He's just got to cut his losses at some point.
00:42:11
Speaker
Can always start again.
00:42:14
Speaker
ah I can't. I'm not going do it. What? You can keep her. That's what Liam Neeson is saying. The fourth time she gets taken. I thought you had one like so locked and loaded in the chamber that would immediately get this podcast taken off the air.
00:42:31
Speaker
I'd like to see them try. All right. So I got to call an audible, but I think this one's pretty good. And I don't know if anyone would have this on their list. I'm going with Cobb from inception played by Leonardo DiCaprio.
00:42:44
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Oh, what? No.
00:42:48
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For a good dad. Yeah. Oh, wait, no, he is a good dad. Yeah, literally the whole story is him trying to get back to his kids. Who was I thinking of? i saw I saw Leo, and i was thinking I think I was thinking of another character. Okay, never Killers the Flower Moon?
00:43:03
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Maybe. He's a dummy in that one. Wolf of Wall Street? If he's a dad in that, then yeah, he's going to go on the trash tier dads. Okay, Cobb. Yeah, Cobb from Inception. He's a dad in both Wolf and Killers the Flower Moon. yeah He's going really bad dad and both going into like his his fourth ah nested dream to try and get to his kids. It's pretty crazy.
00:43:26
Speaker
Great movie, by the way. And does he get there? Who knows? Who knows? Very rewatchable. know. You know, Will Smith said he turned it down because he didn't understand the movie.
00:43:36
Speaker
He turned down Inception. he apparently turned down The Matrix. And then there was a third big one that might give Will Smith the title of dumbest actor in Hollywood, question mark.
00:43:50
Speaker
Could also go to... um Oh, what's that? Who's that old or man? ah Sean Connery. He turned down Gandalf.
00:44:01
Speaker
He turned down... What was the other one? i don't think it was Indiana Jones. Sean Connery's been in a ton of iconic roles, so it's not like he's hurting.
00:44:14
Speaker
Yeah, but... He messed up a few times. There were like two or three massive franchises that he just declined because yeah he didn't understand them. I'd rather be... Oh, what?
00:44:26
Speaker
I think it was... Oh, my God. Harry Potter. Dumbledore. I think it was Dumbledore. okay he just doesn't He just doesn't have a thing for wise men with big beards. I don't want to be a wizard.
00:44:39
Speaker
wizards. No wizards.
00:44:44
Speaker
I'd rather be Sean Connery in that situation than Will Smith. If I was Will Smith, I'd be and be kicking myself. because Because at least Connery is still Bond. Oh, that's true. Yeah. What does Will Smith have?
00:44:55
Speaker
The Pursuit of Happiness? Which could go on the the movie dad list. That's why I said it. Chris Gardner. that's that That's a true story, right? That's a true story. yeah Yeah.
00:45:08
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Who's your next daddy?
00:45:11
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Alex. Are we putting... Good old Chris on the list? He's not on my list. We're doing a cumulative dad list, and we brought him up, so I feel like we need to probably put him on there. Sure. All right, fine, fine. you Will Smith missed out on Inception. he can't miss out on the lost in the frame daddy list. We'll include him on our daddy list.
00:45:31
Speaker
Uh-oh, Richard. Richard?
00:45:39
Speaker
Dude, what a crazy night. That was...
00:45:44
Speaker
That I think is the the highlight of Will Smith's career. Sadly it is. Is Chris from Pursuit of Happiness your pick or do you have another? No. If we're going to go into TV ah guess I'll go into TV.
00:46:01
Speaker
going to shout out my man Hank Hill. Fresh off a reboot come back to our homes and hearts.
00:46:13
Speaker
Good old Hank Hill and his propane and propane accessories. Wow. good That was good. Well done. Now you listen here. I think I belong on the daddy tier list.
00:46:26
Speaker
Put me on that Mount Rushmore. I'll tell you what. That's really good. That's your best impression yet. yeah Wow. You know what? Yeah, he's going here just for that impression.
00:46:39
Speaker
Yeah. Hank's the bomb. Best TV dad, in my opinion, because he's like, you know, acts like a real human being. And he's not like Peter. Peter. Peter, the horse is here. horse is here.
00:46:52
Speaker
Peter. Peter. You're going to get the ah Hank Hills skin on Fortnite? Dude, I want to so bad. But like, it's going to cost me like 20 bucks to get to the amount of V-Bucks I need to get it. I don't know why you're refusing.
00:47:08
Speaker
It's $20. Oh. it's twenty dollars Use your real adult money to buy scans on Fortnite. Isn't that your favorite TV franchise? Yeah. It's not my favorite, but I do love King of the Hill. It's been brought up the last couple episodes.
00:47:21
Speaker
Well, I mean, it's pretty relevant. It's been in the news for for better or for worse the last couple of weeks. So adding on to the Ryan Gosling counter is a Hank Hill counter. Yeah. is right oh Can we put a Ryan Gosling from The Nice Guys just to bring him up?
00:47:38
Speaker
Sure. I don't think he's a good dad, though. He's not bad dad. He's not a bad dad. but He's not great. He's not great. All right. right we'll We'll put him on the mid-dad list. He brought his daughter to the Playboy party. True. True.
00:47:52
Speaker
He said, Daddy, there's strippers and stuff here. He's like, what did we say? Stop saying and stuff.
00:48:01
Speaker
um Is it turn? Does Robin Gosling have any good dad movies? Because Place Beyond the Pines, he's not really a good dad in that one. don't know if he's played that many dads. Blue Valentine?
00:48:17
Speaker
Do they have children in The Notebook? I mean, what it be? I actually haven't seen The Notebook. That's a gosling I need to watch. Same. Wow. um Maybe we'll do an episode on The Notebook.
00:48:29
Speaker
You're married and haven't seen The Notebook? I feel like that's like a ah movie you gotta watch before you pop a question because she made you watch it at some point. Not yet. Oh, it's coming.
00:48:41
Speaker
It's coming. Alright, my next one. Continuing on the TV trend. Not a biological father, but an uncle. Uncle Phil from the Fresh Prince Bel-Air.
00:48:54
Speaker
Oh, that's Uncle Phil. I mean, the scene or it's you know the how come you don't want me no more? Dude, that Fresh Prince Bel-Air was a really big show for me growing up.
00:49:07
Speaker
And I think watching Uncle Phil, like there's a lot of great like life lessons like in that show. And a lot of it that drove very close to home for me, especially that episode.
00:49:19
Speaker
I remember first watching that and literally just like going to my mom and like bawling my eyes out because it hit me that hard. Rest in peace, Uncle Phil. That's a tough one for real.
00:49:33
Speaker
um I'm fresh out of pics at this point, unfortunately. I got another one. Go for it. From one of my... This is higher than King of the Hill in terms of favorite TV shows.
00:49:44
Speaker
We could do a TV episode where we talk about TV shows, but... Coach... Coach Eric Taylor in Friday Night Lights. Oh, great pick. Love that show.
00:49:54
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He is the GOAT. Truly. love that guy. That whole, like... I think the dynamic between him and Connie Britton... You know, good old Tammy Taylor in that show.
00:50:06
Speaker
Um... I think their dynamic is very real. It's not like a perfect marriage. ah They bicker a lot. They butt heads a lot.
00:50:16
Speaker
But like, my goodness, at the end of the day, do they not just love each other and, um you know, appreciate like their own family and they really go out of their way to.
00:50:32
Speaker
Help all the kids. Yeah. mean, he's he's such a leader for everyone, not just his kids. In fact, his daughter is just one of the worst characters in the show. Julie sucks.
00:50:45
Speaker
Not your Julie. It's OK.
00:50:50
Speaker
Those are also all of my picks. Are we daddied out? want to be daddied out for the... At least for the good ones. yeah I do have another good daddy, but I kind of wanted to save it for when we were doing like the daddy loadout.
00:51:04
Speaker
Okay. Like you want him on your, on your team? Yeah. i want him on my team. So i'm not going to say him. Okay. Oh wait. So, okay. all right. That's fine. So to go over our picks for the Mount Rushmore, we need to pick four.
00:51:15
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We have Marlon from Finding Nemo, Bill Naive from About Time, Guido from Life is Beautiful, Sang-wa from Train to Busan, Phil from Modern Family, Cobb from from Inception, Liam Neeson and Taken, Chris from Pursuit of Happiness, Hank Hill, Uncle Phil, Coach Taylor, and Steve Carell in Beautiful Boy.
00:51:33
Speaker
Is there a quick consist consensus pick? Marlon. I'm cool with that. That was already one of my picks, so. All right. It's fine with me.
00:51:44
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Marlon from Finding Nemo, you are on the Mount Rushmore of movie dads.
00:51:53
Speaker
Sure. Could have picked Ben. Could have been a decent. Oh. ah He's dead. Well, Uncle's in the name, so it's kind of... I mean, Uncle Phil's also in the name.
00:52:05
Speaker
Oh, true. These are just father figures. Who's our second pick? Liam Neeson. Taken.
00:52:17
Speaker
Welcome, Liam Neeson, to the Mount Rushmore movie dads.
00:52:23
Speaker
We're sober filming this, by the way, listeners. I feel... promise. I feel biased. I want to go with one of my picks. What do you guys feel? want to go with all my picks. pain Well, we can leave them.
00:52:36
Speaker
Who's left? Who's left? Okay, I think we all agreed for Marlon. We'll say Liam Neeson was mine. So we could do one each from you guys to make it fair. We'll do Marlon as the group pick, and then we each get one of our personals.
00:52:49
Speaker
ah Is that fair?
00:52:53
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I like it. Who do you want, Alex?
00:52:58
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think you gotta go, Coach Taylor. Welcome, push taylor Coach Taylor, to the Mount Rushmore of movie dads. I don't like the sound for this, do I have to do it? That was your choice. Welcome, Coach Taylor.
00:53:17
Speaker
I'm going to go with... It's so close. um I'll go with Steve Carell from Beautiful Boy. Steve Carell in Beautiful Boy. Just because he's so, so determined to help his son.
00:53:32
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Welcome to the Lost in the Frame Mount Rushmore Movie Dads.
00:53:40
Speaker
We should do some meth to celebrate that one. Sure.
00:53:45
Speaker
All right, so to recap, our Mount Rushmore is Marlon from Finding Nemo, Liam Neeson in Taken, Coach Taylor in Friday Night Lights, and Steve Carell in Beautiful Boy. We talked about the good daddies.
00:53:57
Speaker
Time to talk about the trash daddies. The bad daddies. We're going to rank these ones... We're not doing a Mount Rushmore, going to rank them on a deadbeat scale that we like to call a deadbeat scale from one to five.
00:54:10
Speaker
Five being the worst? Five being the worst. Okay. Just bottom of the barrel, piece of shit fathers. Sure. um I wanted to talk through this one with you guys just based off my memory that I couldn't fully remember if this is mainly this character's mom.
00:54:28
Speaker
But I wanted to talk about the Tully's. Angus Tully's parents from The Holdovers. Okay, yes, it is the mom because the stepdad. It's a stepdad. Okay. the Because the real dad is, well.
00:54:40
Speaker
yeah Or he's sick. He's indisposed. Yeah. Okay, I won't count this one. I had that one first just because I wanted to bring it up, but I'm going to delete it. I won't count it. God, Malik, that's so ableist of you.
00:54:54
Speaker
What? The dad is infirmed. We'll do with this on Mother's Day, too. We'll do the worst mothers. Yeah. Mother from Mother. Mother's Day already passed, so but we need to wait until next year. What are we doing for Juneteenth?
00:55:08
Speaker
It's tomorrow. This, I guess. Watching Nickel Boys.
00:55:15
Speaker
Sure. I'm going count that as my first. Who's you guys' this first trash dad?
00:55:23
Speaker
and we We're going to refer to these people as dads, not daddies. They don't deserve that title. youre and I'm going to go with... Denethor from Lord of the Rings. Oh, I knew you'd pick him. That guy sucks. Yeah. He sucks.
00:55:37
Speaker
I don't know if he's that bad in the books, but in the movies, I mean, the tomato scene alone. The tomato scene. Just jail. Immediately. But no, I mean, not only did he, like, say to his own son that he wished that he died instead of the firstborn, but he goes a step further.
00:56:01
Speaker
And literally tries to burn him alive. I mean he kind of wasn't. Right in his head at that point in the movie. But that's you know. He still had like. um ah He still had the itch somewhere in his mind. To want to do that. yeah and You can just be like. i was just just drunk last night. like or you want You wanted that.
00:56:23
Speaker
Yeah he's he's my first pick. he He's the worst. Where'd you put him on the deadbeat scale? ah Easy. four at minimum make him a five for the tomato scene oh yeah i mean he tried to kill his own son so yeah five can't get worse than that one of my earliest lord of the rings memories is just a very vivid scene of him sprinting while on fire yep that guy sucks let's talk my bad dad pick
00:56:57
Speaker
In the bowels of Disney's long and storied movie vault is a movie that came out when we were kids that is very hated.
00:57:09
Speaker
And I think unjustly so, because I think this movie is actually a little more clever than some people um make it out to be. And that movie would be Chicken Little. I know. Yeah.
00:57:20
Speaker
Oh, fuck that guy.
00:57:24
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Chicken Little, for those who don't know, is a story about it's kind of like a modern retelling of ah the Chicken Little, you know, fairy tale where the sky is falling. And actually turns out Chicken Little was aliens. OK, the sky was falling and it was aliens fault.
00:57:43
Speaker
um But like 75 percent of this movie is just the town like making fun of Chicken Little for being like a schizo. But the worst part about it is his dad, Buck Cluck.
00:57:59
Speaker
This guy sucks. Buck Cluck basically is just ashamed and disappointed of his son like the whole time. And he doesn't like fight for chicken little like there that this. The movie opens with like the dad be like, oh, they're making a movie now about your big mess up. And it's just like ah you don't think you could have like filed a lawsuit or something like that to stop it.
00:58:25
Speaker
He just kicks dirt in his son's face. What? He's just kicking dirt in his son's face. Oh, literally. Like, he's just like, you messed up. And now they're they're they're really running with it, Chicken Little. So then Chicken Little, like, he gets in his dad's good graces.
00:58:40
Speaker
And he makes, he joins the baseball team. He makes the baseball team. Somehow Chicken Little goes yard in this baseball game and wins the game. And he's just like his dad, who is also like a big baseball star.
00:58:54
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And his dad's like, oh, like my son, my hero, blah, blah, blah. Like how proud I am of you. And then the aliens show up. Yep.
00:59:04
Speaker
And Chicken Little, he alerts the town because there are literally aliens in the town. Like, I mean, what are you going to do? Like, oh, like. Imagine if, you know. Aliens land in Austin, Texas. Like, I'm going to go tell Greg Abbott there's aliens in Austin, Texas. Like, there's aliens, guys.
00:59:23
Speaker
um I don't know who our mayor is anymore. um I'm sure it's still him. No, Abbott's the governor. Oh, governor. Yeah, I don't know who our mayor is then. And so the town's like, oh, Chicken Little, like, you're making this up.
00:59:36
Speaker
And so what does the dad do? He doesn't defend his son. He throws him under the bus and he says, I don't believe you in front of the entire town.
00:59:49
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And then he only believes Chicken Little when the aliens make themselves known. And Chicken Little is now like a hero. And it's like, oh, look at my son. He is only there for Chicken Little when it's convenient.
01:00:03
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He's a leech. He's a leech.
01:00:06
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And I'm sure when the the pro Chicken Little movie came out at the end of the movie, I'm sure he was, you know getting his cut of the annuity money on it. You know, like, oh, like, well, he's a minor, so I have to you know have it in my name, too. Like, shut up, Buck.
01:00:24
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I'm going to give him a four out of five because at least he does support Chicken Little in the end, which is more than you can say for some people. um But yeah, Buck Cluck, kind of a deadbeat.
01:00:35
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I agree. My pick, and we can talk about this because this is a very specific situation that I don't think anybody would want to find themselves in.
01:00:48
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And this dad kind of took measures into his own hands a little too early. And I'm talking about David Drayton in The Mist.
01:01:00
Speaker
I haven't seen it. You guys haven't seen The Mist? No. Because you guys haven't seen it, I'm going to stop talking. ah But that is my pick. um I'll give another quick one. or I'll give another one since I can't talk about this one.
01:01:16
Speaker
Thanos. Good one. I think that's a good one. i don't think he's as bad as Buck Cluck, though. Buck Cluck is worse. He might be the top of this list. Because at least Thanos was like trying to do something.
01:01:29
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he had like He had drive and ambition. like He had a goal. He achieved the goal through... Sketchy measures, I would say. but He wasn't truly evil. He is just he just wanted to kill half the people that exist.
01:01:45
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He had passion. i mean Listen, guys can have hobbies too, okay? Without some deadbeat kid dragging him down saying, no, you can't go get the soul stone. Yeah, like throwing your daughter off a cliff.
01:01:58
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She was in the way. What?
01:02:04
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He had to do it. It was the requirement. I mean, what else was he supposed to do? Not kill her? Had to do it to him. He came that far. Yeah, I mean, he had almost all of them at that point.
01:02:15
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All he did was see it through. and and and he was sad about it. If Buck Cluck was there, would have just killed Chicken Little and not even thought about it.
01:02:26
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Yeah, I know he went yard in a baseball game, but my son is he's got problems, so I'm just going get rid of him. This dude sucks.
01:02:35
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All right, my next pick. I'm going to go with ah Ego from Guardians of the Galaxy 2, played by Kurt Russell. Yeah, he is ah not too nice.
01:02:50
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He puts cancer inside of his son's mother to kill her. I forget why. Doesn't really matter why he put cancer in someone's body.
01:03:02
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ah And then he tried to like absorb the planets that had life on them or something. Yeah. um so yeahs not He's a planet eater, right? Yeah, he's like a planet eater.
01:03:14
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ah So that's like an easy five for me. Pretty deadbeat-ish. Yeah. He still liked his son, though. he He actually kind of did like Peter.
01:03:26
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Quill. I mean, he wasn't there for him his entire life. Yeah. I think it's... But think the one thing with this one that I'm going to play devil's advocate a little bit. Go for it.
01:03:37
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I feel like. If you were like really boil down to like. The psychology of it all. and Sure. mean, he's basically like a god. Right.
01:03:49
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feel like it's kind of hard, like a god, to understand like human morality. So I'd be willing to give him a break there where it's like just a little cancer when you've lived for trillions of millennia and are way beyond any sort of plane of our existence.
01:04:08
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You know?
01:04:11
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I suppose so. but So, you know, and plus you liked his kid. i mean But as Steve Rogers would say, we don't trade lives.
01:04:22
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That's true. That's true. Can't trade a mother for a son. Where would he be on the scale? For me, a five. i I don't think I would appreciate if my dad killed my mom and then tried to kill everyone on every planet.
01:04:37
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That would be annoying. A little bit. I'd be so pissed. Hey, dad, don't do that. Yeah, don't do that. Don't go kill people. It's not nice.
01:04:48
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You got next, Alex? I do. I do have next. This is one that I think transcends the movie and how bad of a dad they are. We're going go with, in the daddy draft, Lester Burnham from American Beauty.
01:05:04
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Played by Kevin Spacey. I haven't seen American Beauty. Okay. Well, the premise of it is this. Kevin Spacey, who had some accusations against him. Five. Five.
01:05:18
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Plays a guy, five accusations. Wait, five accusations or five on the scale? Five on the scale just because it's Kevin Spacey. Ah, yeah. Well, he he plays a guy who ah wants to um hook up with his his daughter's te teenage friend.
01:05:36
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Ew. And he also smokes weed. Oh, not the devil's lettuce. Yeah. The worst crime of all. But I think that's a movie that's transcended the bad daddiness of it because I shouldn't even say that with this movie because it's just not only is like Kevin Spacey a pedophile in this movie.
01:06:01
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He also was allegedly ah pedophile in real life. So not only is your dad pretending to not be a pedophile.
01:06:12
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He is. He's a pedophile, allegedly, who is pretending to not be a pe pedophile while wanting to be a pedophile. Five.
01:06:26
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He doesn't hate his daughter, though, which is more than you can save than Buck Cluck.
01:06:34
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Buck Cluck is number one on our villain list here. um Yeah, i I would put Lester Burnham as a five. um Honestly, I'm going to be, this is a movie that when I first started really getting into cinema was one that I always see recommended on like lists. And I think it won the Oscar that year.
01:06:55
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um I didn't really like it um at all. Really? Is that PTA? Is this a PTA movie? No. am thinking of something else? You're thinking of something else. American Beauty was directed by Sam Mendes. In fact, it was actually his directorial debut.
01:07:13
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Oh, interesting. It has that really iconic scene of um the girl laying down in the rose petals. Yeah. It was parodied in everything, including Madagascar, actually. Is it Kate Hudson?
01:07:27
Speaker
Um... No, I don't think it is. Which movie am I thinking of? It's not Kate Hudson. It is Mina Suvari.
01:07:40
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Okay. yeah I'm thinking of an entirely different movie then. Watch list?
01:07:46
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Eh. feel like it's in the canon, so you should watch it. Alright. But I wouldn't like go out of my way to recommend it. I wouldn't like... Oh, you gotta go watch it right now. My last one...
01:07:59
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is a man who was just so selfish to his family that it caused death. It wreaked havoc. Made his daughter a witch.
01:08:12
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William from The Witch. Too narrow-minded. spoilers. Huh? No spoilers. It's on my watch list. What's thou like to live deliciously?
01:08:24
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Don't. Don't. No. What's thou? ah Man, the first time I saw that scene, i don't think I've ever been more creeped out.
01:08:36
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Ever? That scene like lives in my mind, rent-free. I think Black Phillip should have gotten nominated for Best Supporting Actor. I was home alone, and the whispering, it just...
01:08:52
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ah Tachi, Black Phillip's a goat, by the way. Yeah. Yeah, but I'm putting William from The Witch. I won't say too much else since you want to watch it, Tachi. Appreciate it.
01:09:04
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You know, I put a note on someone who used to work with's desk that said, what's thou like to live deliciously? They had a panic attack. Because they were like, oh my god, like I didn't know who put it on.
01:09:15
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like i'd i' had known they had seen the movie and we'd like talked about it like earlier that week. I just like wrote on their whiteboard, what's thou like to live deliciously? Yeah, that would freak me out. Oh my god, like no.
01:09:26
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And I'm like, it was mean, come on, dude. You're not that scary. I mean, I like butter. Like, I'm not going to eat you. give him a four on the deadbeat scale. All right. You guys got some more trash daddies?
01:09:43
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I've got like two ah honorable mentions. I'm going to go with Peter McAllister from Home Alone. mean, come on. Yeah. Two vacations in a row.
01:09:54
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Idiot. I feel like that's embarrassing. bordering on child endangerment it really is and he's so nonchalant about it too like at the end of the first movie he's just like oh we forgot the kid do you know what could have happened like the first time sure i guess maybe it's understandable There's like a huge family.
01:10:20
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But the second time? Twice? More than once? His face also just kind of like pisses me off. Same. So this is both of the parents' fault.
01:10:32
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But I'm gonna look at him. gonna look at him. Yeah, because the mom like... did everything to come back. Yeah. And he's just like, second one, um, for all you game of Thrones folks, Tywin Lannister, not, not too kind, especially to a old Tyrion.
01:10:53
Speaker
Oh, poor fella. was leaving the Thrones. Yeah. Great actor though. Great character. Really great character sucks. Where would you guys, where'd you guys put Walter White in this?
01:11:09
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like it i give him three three yeah i three i give him a three would you classify him kind of as like morally gray no no i think through season four yes but season five no he's not morally gray by the end of the show he's just bad yeah yeah he broke bad oh my god he they they did it they said it walter they said it
01:11:38
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Walter, you broke bad. Do this impression. You're about to do it. of What's his face? Walter.
01:11:48
Speaker
You broke bad, Walter. Can do it in Hank Hill's voice?
01:11:55
Speaker
I can do the sun from Breaking Bad.
01:11:59
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You two have a conversation right now.
01:12:03
Speaker
I'm not going do that. Please. I'm not going to do that. I'll tell you who what, Walter, I need to tell you something. You've broken bad, my friend.
01:12:15
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No longer are you invited to the cookout. In fact, I think I'm going to cook your steak well done the next time you ask for one.
01:12:26
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You treat your boy terribly. I'm going to kick your ass.
01:12:32
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think you should do the sun. I'm not going to do the sun.
01:12:38
Speaker
That's going to get us kicked off the air. No. Fine. Alex was getting ready to do it. Had it locked. i was staring down the site. Finish the trash to your dads.
01:12:53
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Do you have any more Alex? I mean, we got like a couple like... Oh, like, you know, the classics like Jack Torrance and the shining. Darth Vader. Pretty obviously bad.
01:13:06
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He's kind of a five, you know, Daniel Plainview and there will be blood. Yeah, was pretty bad. He didn't really like his family that much. The shining, I think, is probably like the worst because, um you know, he tries to kill all of them.
01:13:25
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But I'm going to use my last real pick and go with Royal Tenenbaum and the Royal Tenenbaums. He pushes all his family away and they all hate him. And so he decides to heal this by getting them all back together by saying he has a terminal illness and is dying, but he doesn't have a terminal illness.
01:13:46
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That's my blind spot in Wes Anderson's filmography. People love that one. They say it's one of his best. and It just has never, ever stuck with me. um And I think there's there's two reasons why.
01:14:01
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i think the I just think I don't like Royal Tenenbaum. Like he's not even like a like a weird Wes Anderson kind of like antihero. You know? Yeah.
01:14:13
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I'm trying to think of like another movie of his that had... Like Moonrise Kingdom. like Those kids, like they they kind of did a bad thing. But you're rooting for them. But you're not really rooting for a Royal Tenenbaum. Because he just kind of sucks. you know um and then the the subplot with ah Luke Wilson and Gwyneth Paltrow is just like, ooh.
01:14:36
Speaker
Very ooh. don't like it that much. And the nothing else in the rest of the story... Really saves it for me. ah And I've always just thought it was like ah like ah like a low seven.
01:14:51
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i don't think it's my in my Wes Anderson top five. Just never loved it. And I think Royal Tenenbaums are really big reason why. Well, it sounds like our least favorite dad on this list goes to Buck Cluck.
01:15:04
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Buck Cluck sucks.
01:15:07
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Buck Cluck, we hate you.
Dream Daddy Team
01:15:10
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Agreed. Next segment. Who's your daddy?
01:15:16
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Who's your daddy? That's a really gross sound. The second, well, like, I think the second one is the worst, but third and the third and fourth time he says it are really bad. We're going to listen to the full thing soon.
01:15:29
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Yeah, I can't wait. Get ready. Get ready, listeners. You're about to get daddied.
01:15:36
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We're going to pick our dream daddy team. My parents listen to this podcast. I just remember that. mom listens to it too. ah For the following categories, we're going to get three daddies.
01:15:48
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One to teach you life lessons. One to help you survive a zombie apocalypse. And one who's just a cool badass. We won't go draft style. We'll just say all three of our picks.
01:16:00
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Sure. We can have the same picks if we have similar answers because these daddies are personal to us. For life lessons, I've got Uncle Phil from Fresh Prince Bel-Air.
01:16:12
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Good To help me survive a zombie apocalypse, Joel Miller from The Last of Us. Thought that was an easy choice. And for just a cool badass, this guy's not really a badass.
01:16:26
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But I feel like we could get into a lot of good hijinks. And he has a lot of money. I'm going Frank Reynolds from It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia.
01:16:35
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I mean, sometimes you just wish your dad was big on yelling at those whores. Those whores. Those whores.
01:16:47
Speaker
Danny DeVito just seems like a great guy. So maybe not Frank Reynolds. Maybe just Danny DeVito. Yeah. More like Daddy DeVito. Let's go. who's your daddy?
01:17:00
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I think you would like that audio. I think so too. I can go next. um I don't like the audio.
01:17:09
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My daddy dream team. Dream daddy team. First one for life lessons. I'm going to go Stanley Tucci and easy. Oh, one for the lessons and two, cause he just looks hot in that movie.
01:17:23
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You he's your daddy. Yeah. Wait, like yours. You can't think he's hot. Oh, oh, mine. i didn't know they were replacing i'm just kidding okay and we're off the air number two zombie apocalypse i'm gonna go with rick grimes and there's one scene in particular sorry rick grimes from the walking dead um thought the other rick grimes actually
01:17:56
Speaker
For those unfamiliar with the show. But ah there's one scene, and I think it's in season four or five. It just, it really elevates him to ah level of like, just someone who would do anything to protect their children.
01:18:14
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And it just made me respect him. as a character more than most. um Let me tell you something. And, you know, it's kind of on the nose because he's in a zombie show.
01:18:28
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For cool badass, I'm going to go Anakin Skywalker. oh Because he's a cool badass. Not great, but he's a cool badass. Yeah, we didn't say if he had to be a good dad or a bad dad.
01:18:42
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Can't get cooler than Vader. You can't. Where would you put Vader on the scale? Like a five and then he slips down to a two and a half. Yeah.
01:18:52
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Ultimately like a two.
01:18:56
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Like I'd give him a three. feel like three is fair. The whole like chopping Luke's hand off. Yeah. Like he kidnaps Leia, but he doesn't know at that point. Right.
01:19:07
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No, but he knows when he chops Luke's hand off. Yeah. I mean, maybe that's kind of just like the equivalent of like spanking your kid in the galaxy. It's just chopping their hand off with a lightsaber. little dismemberment.
01:19:20
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Yeah. Casual. They've got the technology to get it back. That's true.
01:19:27
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All right, Alex. What's your dream daddy team? All right. My dream team is the one that teaches you life lessons. I'm going with Long John Silver from Treasure Planet. Oh, wow.
01:19:41
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Good pull. He's pretty sick. Yeah. The whole like betraying Jim thing. Not really a good look, but the advice he gives is it's pretty solid.
01:19:54
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Yeah. Plus, like ah it'd be kind of cool to have like a cyborg mentor. Yeah. Yeah. um For one to help you survive a zombie apocalypse.
01:20:09
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I mean, trying to think here. I'm trying not to repeat And I am stuck.
01:20:23
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So I am going to repeat and I'm going to go. Actually, I'm not going repeat. I'm going to go with the other dad, the main character in Train to Busan. Like the main character. Oh, you got two daddies off that train.
01:20:34
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Yeah, they're both solid daddies. Picking them off.
01:20:40
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a dad sonon yeah he would run a Train And then i am going to have to grow Itachi. um Darth Vader. Anakin as the the, I mean, it's just like, that'd be kind of sick if your dad was Vader.
01:20:55
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Right. I probably would have joined him. If he was my dad, I would join him. You think? Yeah. the guy Join me and together we can over, like, I mean, if your dad shows up and says, hey, we're going to overthrow the emperor. I'm in.
01:21:14
Speaker
Yeah. Time me up. Fair enough. I want to overthrow the emperor. Yeah, man, I'm in. Let's do it. I'd get off that little guardrail and like, shit, man. You didn't tell me we'd be doing all that. can I get some cool armor, too?
01:21:30
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No. No.
01:21:35
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All right.
What Makes a Good Dad Movie?
01:21:36
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the Cap us off with our daddy segments. We're going to give you guys some dad movie recommendations. These aren't. These are movies that we think dads will just love.
01:21:46
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I think we can all agree. Dads sometimes have really good taste. This is the kind of movie where maybe your dad is either the one that suggests it, or maybe it's one that you put on that he said he wasn't interested in. And then you see him 10 minutes later float into the living room, hands on his side, watching the movie right with you.
01:22:05
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Like a pie is on the windowsill. Just floating up like a 60s cartoon character. For my first recommendation, i got Moneyball. I think that's an excellent dad movie.
01:22:19
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That's such a good dad movie. I think any baseball, like, Feel the Dreams, um For the Love of the Game, you know, yeah any of those movies, like, dads eat that up.
01:22:32
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I think, yeah, dad movies could be, like, solid sports movies, someone's kicking ass, they're making money, or someone being really good at something. Or a combination of all four.
01:22:44
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I think that those are the ingredients that could make a good dad movie. My other one is The Accountant.
01:22:51
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And my last one, probably going to be F1. It's not even out yet. That's why I said probably.
01:23:01
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i I feel like Brad Pitt is the king of dad movies. like because we We already discussed it, so be one of mine, but Ocean's Eleven, had said was a dad movie. He's in that.
01:23:12
Speaker
I know that's not Brad Pitt. Never mind. No say it. I was thinking of the Martian. oh Matt Damon. Troy's kind Matt Damon is like. Yeah. I think like. B tier dad movies. Uh huh. Tasha do you want to go.
01:23:27
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Sure. ah Mine is just all like. cool kick-ass type of movies so got top gun maverick john wick the raid the born identity edge of tomorrow just really fun action you're gonna a good time just testosterone filled movies just get pumped up yeah let's get pumped alex what you got I'm going to go with the first one is Heat.
01:23:58
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Michael Mann, 1995. De Niro, Pacino, Val Kilmer. It's about a heist. I mean, that's just it's like a movie that, you know, when I have kids in 20 years, I'm sitting down and be like.
01:24:13
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Mom's out with her friends tonight.
01:24:16
Speaker
Don't tell her, but we're going to watch Heat and it's just going to blow his mind. I've been waiting to watch Heat isn't. Isn't it this year like some anniversary? Like weren't we expecting like a re-release in theaters and that's why waiting? No, you guys are just sitting on your thumbs. No, literally remember the conversation. I was like, it's like the 30th or whatever anniversary this year.
01:24:37
Speaker
Do we think they're going to re-release it in theaters? i mean I need to watch it too. Yeah, I'm waiting. I want to see it in the theater. December 6, 1995 would be the 30th anniversary of it.
01:24:49
Speaker
Okay, so it's 30 years, 6 months. So you're going to maybe wait six months watch Heat. We started this conversation like six months ago. We started this conversation like two years ago.
01:25:00
Speaker
So what's another six months? I could be dead. Who's in it? De Niro? De Niro, Pacino, Val Kilmer, Tom Sizemore, Natalie Portman. um A lot of people are in it, actually.
01:25:14
Speaker
Why don't we do um like a De Niro-Pacino episode in December? Ooh. I feel like we'll workshop it. I like that. Yeah.
01:25:26
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That'd be good. like I feel like De Niro and Pacino are are dad actors. 100%. sure. but sure You know, I feel like every movie... mean, because I feel like dads will always love like The Godfather. Pacino's in The Godfather. Yep.
01:25:39
Speaker
o Yeah, De Niro is too. um I just watched Jackie Brown. Probably not the best dad or De Niro movie, but...
01:25:51
Speaker
He's in it. It's good movie. See, my debt my dad loves Jackie Brown. I loved it too. But it's just not like super fun. But it's good. Did you watch that off of Alex's recommendation?
01:26:04
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A few weeks ago? ah I don't know. Maybe. Actually, yeah. Now that you mention it. I had it in the back of my mind. and then yeah
01:26:17
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my ah My other dad movie picks... um So hopefully, maybe Tachi, if you haven't seen these, these can go on your list too. ah The Dollars Trilogy with Clint Eastwood. Really any of like the Clint Eastwood cowboy movies.
01:26:30
Speaker
You know, Outlawed Josie Wales, High Plains Drifter, Pale Rider, Two Meals for Sister Sarah. I mean, dads love cowboys. Locked in. Yep. I'm locked in yeah to those movies.
01:26:42
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like i feel like we just need to channel our dad energy. I think it collectively as a society, It would heal America. i think it would. I feel like like dadism is is we're missing that in our current political crime climate.
01:26:58
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I mean, Top Gun Maverick was number seven on IndieWire's Top 100 for a reason. That's like a super dad movie. Yeah. Because the dads. Everyone putting dads down.
01:27:11
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Dad's coming back. Huge comeback. promise I'm sober.
01:27:18
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Is that it for your recommendations? Yeah. Sick. I'll call it there because I don't want to you know. Beat a dead dad.
Wrapping Up and Next Episode Preview
01:27:31
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Who's your daddy? Who's your daddy? That wraps up the Lost in the Frame Daddy episode.
01:27:42
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Happy Father's Day to all the daddies out there. Next week's episode. We're getting lost in the apocalypse with a review of 28 days, weeks, and years later.
01:27:55
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I'm excited for that episode. I am too. am too. um Viewers, DM us. Tell us your thoughts, your feelings, your favorite daddies, and what impression you think I should do on the pod next.
01:28:12
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yeah we're going to just have an entire impression segment. Or if you want to hear Tachi do the Yoda impression again. We don't need to do that.
01:28:22
Speaker
I have other ones I could pull from the from the archives. We'll see. We're going to do it. Thank you guys so much for listening. ah Don't forget to follow us on our socials, Letterboxd, what have you, TikToks.
01:28:37
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