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Episode 146: "The Boys" Season 4 Finale Recap

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This week on the show the boys review “The Boys” season 4 Finale! This episode was a lot of fun and the boys had a blast recording it! We hope you all enjoy it and we will talk to you later!!

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Introduction and Popcorn Podcast Overview

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the_popcorn_podcast
Welcome back everyone to the Popcorn Podcast, I'm Tommy Cresta alongside my co-host Ryan Ferran.
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Ryan
Welcome back everyone to the popular part here on Top of the Risk. I'm also a co-host, Brian Ferrant.

Discussion of 'The Boys' Season 4 Finale

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the_popcorn_podcast
Today we're here to talk about the final two episodes of season four of Amazon Prime's The Boys.
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Ryan
Today we're going to talk about the final choices of season four of Amazon Prime. And yeah, we're going to do that.
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the_popcorn_podcast
And yeah, we we're gonna do that and then the next episode you guys will see will be our review of Deadpool and Wolverine.
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Ryan
And then, as soon as you guys receive, we all review a report for reading.
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the_popcorn_podcast
And then following that will we have a two episode review of House of the Dragon.
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Ryan
And following that, we'll be the first to review about the strategy.

Apologies for Episode Release Delay

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the_popcorn_podcast
ah Sorry that took so long to get The Boys out, very busy.
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Ryan
Sorry, I took some off before I was out. Very busy figuring a leg out.
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the_popcorn_podcast
figuring life out. Ryan has to work a lot.
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Ryan
It's going to work a lot. I'm working hard to figure out the schedules.
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the_popcorn_podcast
I'm working hard to figure out schedules, but we're
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Ryan
But we're

Phillies Game and Episode Recording Plans

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the_popcorn_podcast
here.
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Ryan
here.
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the_popcorn_podcast
We're going to get some episodes done.
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Ryan
I'm going to get some of the stuff that I'm going to watch.
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the_popcorn_podcast
Then we're going to watch the Phillies, hopefully get a win.
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Ryan
hope Yeah, the House of the Dragon one is my fault.
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the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah. The house of the dragon, I was going to do that solo episode on absolute six.
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Ryan
I was going to do that ah solo episode on ah on episode six. Just couldn't find the time for it, you know?
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the_popcorn_podcast
She couldn't find the time for it. You know, it's too busy doing stuff.
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Ryan
It's too busy doing stuff. That wasn't important. But anyways, I'm here now.
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the_popcorn_podcast
That but anyway, it's going to say, I didn't have to record these episodes.
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Ryan
um Yeah, we're going to go see the Phillies after this, after we record these two episodes. Hopefully, God, please pull it together.
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the_popcorn_podcast
Hopefully.
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the_popcorn_podcast
the It's lost seven of the last ten and we're planning to Be really nice very nice Yes, it would ryan we got our got our boy Tyler Phil's fishing tonight like um Boy I'm a fan We
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Ryan
dere It's it been so painful. And we're playing the Guardians too, so it'd be very nice to be the best team in the AL. We got our boys, got our boy Austin Hayes now. Tyler Phillips, yeah, 2-0. He's got like a 2-8 ERA. He's pitching good. boy He hasn't faced, you know, the number one team in the, in the AL, but, you know, he's, uh, it'll be fine.
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the_popcorn_podcast
five
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Ryan
Can you, can you bet real quick? Steven Quan, three hits. Just put that in minimum.
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the_popcorn_podcast
but that I won. So like, you know, like how like you sometimes they'll get, well, you don't bet.
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Ryan
like
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the_popcorn_podcast
Sometimes they'll give you like free money to use it like the casino app.
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Ryan
that you know Yeah.
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the_popcorn_podcast
So give me a free $5.
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Ryan
give Yeah.
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the_popcorn_podcast
I was like, Oh, I'll do some roulette. Put all five on double zero.
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Ryan
It hit.
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the_popcorn_podcast
It hit. I won 100 bucks.
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Ryan
yeah
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the_popcorn_podcast
whicher is instantly It was a free $5.
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Ryan
right You bet on green? Why would you do that?
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the_popcorn_podcast
Take a shot in the dark.
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Ryan
That's awesome.
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the_popcorn_podcast
I also didn't realize I signed out of my Fandal account because I get signs about every time.
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Ryan
ah
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Ryan
they ah
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the_popcorn_podcast
I forgot I put down ten dollars on Harper did first at bat home run against the twins the other night.
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Ryan
i forgot
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Ryan
yeah
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the_popcorn_podcast
Didn't even check. Couple days later when the Fandal was like, how do I have twenty dollars in my account?
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Ryan
it and like oh god game i forgot and Oh yeah, you got it before it explodes.
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the_popcorn_podcast
I was like, oh, my God, I hate that bet. I forgot. um And then I played the Rocky game where have you ever you're seeing that where it goes up, you have to like. Oh, yeah.
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Ryan
yeah
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the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah.
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the_popcorn_podcast
One twenty bucks on that.
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Ryan
one time
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Ryan
Nice. um it like that Have you watched the um ah two Barstool guys play that?
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the_popcorn_podcast
On the two dollars I put in, so I left and I'm like, I'm staying positive. i mean you No, it's it's annoying though. It's an aggravating game but they got out we playing a like and they got up to like maybe like fish theyre like arm pull up pull up pull up it went up to like six hundred just watching That was the one for me I was like because I was gonna play it again I was like, no, this one's fine.
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Ryan
I know, because you can't guess it. There's no scale involved. It's just guessing. But they got out. They were playing it for like hours, and they just like were just losing money. And they got up to like maybe like 50, and they were like, all right, pull up, pull up, pull up. It went up to like 600. And they're just watching it like, oh my god. Yeah.
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the_popcorn_podcast
It went to like 30 times multiplier and I was like i
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Ryan
if
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Ryan
yeah
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the_popcorn_podcast
But yeah, no, now i I'm like craving to play that game, but I'm not going to it because that's a bad sign if you want to do it.
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Ryan
i That's
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the_popcorn_podcast
So I'm going to not play that game anymore.
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Ryan
why I don't gamble I would destroy myself Yeah i'm not ah yeah
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the_popcorn_podcast
Well, OK, you talked about your your whole mindset on gameplay.
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the_popcorn_podcast
But see, I'm not like other people we know, like I've never bet more than twenty dollars. I'm terrified of betting.
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Ryan
i don't have
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the_popcorn_podcast
But don't get it wrong. If I have ten dollars so to like spend, I throw a bunch of one dollars down.
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Ryan
ten
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Ryan
Yeah, that's fun.
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the_popcorn_podcast
It's always sad that we lose it.
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Ryan
so Yeah, it's terrible.
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the_popcorn_podcast
like so OK, I am going to bet on the game tonight, though.
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Ryan
and but
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the_popcorn_podcast
But yeah, Stephen Kwan, three hits.
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Ryan
stephen quaheads at least Stephen, he's got power now.
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the_popcorn_podcast
I'll bet Stephen Kwan for three hits and a home run.
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Ryan
He's got pop.
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the_popcorn_podcast
We got to make sure to put that bet in

Review of 'The Boys' Season 4 Ending

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the_popcorn_podcast
before we go.
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Ryan
um
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the_popcorn_podcast
um So, yeah, we're here to review the final two episodes, episode seven and episode of eight of The Boys.
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Ryan
yeah i'm here
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the_popcorn_podcast
Episode seven was titled The Insider. And I'm not going to lie, my initial thoughts, I thought these final two episodes really, really good.
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Ryan
i
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Ryan
really was very
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the_popcorn_podcast
I was very happy with what happened and how they set up pretty much this final season we're gonna get and the next season of Gen V.
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Ryan
ah they said yeah gen v
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the_popcorn_podcast
I liked, I watched the finale of my dad and we both, he was like, ah for the next couple of days, I'm so sad that the boys are, I was like, I'm like happy because all I was so nervous the finale was gonna be bad.
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Ryan
um like I watched the fan on my dad. He was like, okay, for the next couple of days. I was so sad. I was like, I'm like happy. I'm just so nervous. Yeah, I think they they pulled it together these last two episodes.
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the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah, I think they pulled it together in these last two episodes.
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Ryan
Because we had been saying the whole time, this season felt like such an in-between season.
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the_popcorn_podcast
Because we've been saying the whole time, this season felt like such an in-between season.
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Ryan
And I think you know after finishing it, it still does.
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the_popcorn_podcast
And I think, you know, after finishing it, it still does. he was still
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Ryan
It was still basically a lead up for season five, which is you know going to be the end of it.
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the_popcorn_podcast
basically a lead up for season five, which is gonna be the end of it.
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Ryan
um It still kind of felt like that.
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the_popcorn_podcast
It still kind of felt like that, but these last two episodes definitely pulled it together a little bit more than the previous six.
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Ryan
But these last two episodes definitely pulled it together a little bit more than the the previous six. um I thought they were the best two of the of the season.
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the_popcorn_podcast
I thought they were the best two of the season, which was, it was good.
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Ryan
which was, it was good. It's always good to end on high note, but I still kind of have that feeling of the season was more so just an in between for season three and season five.
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the_popcorn_podcast
It's always good to end on the high note, but I still kind of have that feeling. This season was more so just an in-between from season three and season five.
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Ryan
You know, not much really happened.
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the_popcorn_podcast
Not much really happened.
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Ryan
Like a lot of things happened, but it wasn't, there wasn't like a super important thing throughout this season by itself.
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the_popcorn_podcast
A lot of things happened, but it wasn't It wasn't like a super important thing throughout this season by itself.
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Ryan
It was more so setting up important things that are going to happen in the next season, which always kind of sucks.
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the_popcorn_podcast
It was more so setting up important things that are going to happen in the next season, which always kind of sucks because we kind of just use eight episodes.
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Ryan
Cause you kind of just use eight episodes and then you got to wait a year to see the rest of the story.
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the_popcorn_podcast
And then you got to wait a year to see the rest of the story.
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Ryan
So.
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the_popcorn_podcast
So, well, we have longer than that.
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Ryan
we have one
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the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah.
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Ryan
Yeah, because Gen V's coming out.
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the_popcorn_podcast
2026 is that's coming out. Yeah.
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Ryan
Gen V's next year.
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the_popcorn_podcast
Gen B's next year.
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Ryan
And then, yeah.
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the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah.
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Ryan
So it is still, the the season as a whole is definitely kind of disappointing to me.
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the_popcorn_podcast
So it is still, then the season as a whole is definitely disappointing to me, but like you said, these
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Ryan
But like you said, these you these last two episodes, they were good.
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the_popcorn_podcast
last two so
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the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah, and it's definitely like as much again as it's disappointing it's still better to me than a lot of other television We got it's just again It's like what people say the Godfather 3 and stuff like that This is not as bad as the Godfather 3, but I'm saying like when you have such good things around something It the down things and those look so much worse like when we did our first ever Dune review we talked about the bad stuff for so long but so much easier to find bad things wrong with things and
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Ryan
It was a good end.
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Ryan
It's definitely, and most of the guys, it's just, whatever you mean, a lot of public public theater, it's just, yeah. It's like we're closing a Godfather game. This is not the best Godfather story. When you have such good things around something, like down so yeah we our firsttime do
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Ryan
my Yeah.

Significant Developments in Episode 7

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the_popcorn_podcast
But yeah, um this time it's Christmas time and this in the seventh episode.
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Ryan
but Yeah. Uh, this time it's Christmas.
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the_popcorn_podcast
And when of course, inauguration day is coming around.
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Ryan
And unfortunately for each day's coming around, uh, providers begin to work alongside her breast milk.
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the_popcorn_podcast
ah Homelanders begin to work alongside Firecracker due to her breast milk, which is disgusting.
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Ryan
Oh yeah.
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Ryan
It's disgusting.
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the_popcorn_podcast
ah Not breastfeeding, that that she's breastfeeding and growing.
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Ryan
Uh, breastfeeding. She's breastfeeding for a man.
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the_popcorn_podcast
Man is weird.
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Ryan
Uh-huh.
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the_popcorn_podcast
And so I just want to make sure I don't want anyone thinking Out against women ah He kicked sister sage out of the seven after her little incident at Tech Knight's mansion and then we're kind of seeing the effects of all this I guess is what we're gonna say and I Didn't I would notice on this episode make sure you did not down Probably didn't I don't think I did they introduced the
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Ryan
That's fine. e sisterors say out incident
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Ryan
then we'll kind of see effects of all
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Ryan
I didn't. Maybe you did. I doubt you did.
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Ryan
What else you got? did They introduced the, they they go through, talk about more of the plot to assassinate the president-elect.
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the_popcorn_podcast
they go through more of the plot too is
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Ryan
I already forget his name.
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the_popcorn_podcast
Wild bill, yeah Bob bill, or is that the guy from sounds the lamb?
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Ryan
ye Bill.
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Ryan
Well, it is.
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the_popcorn_podcast
well it is
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Ryan
But also, yeah, that's what his name is.
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the_popcorn_podcast
but also yeah that's what his name i remember is like
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Ryan
I don't remember his last name, though.
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Ryan
It's probably more important.
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the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah
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Ryan
Anyways, they're going to they're going to shoot him, which is terrible timing.
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the_popcorn_podcast
is terrible terrible
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Ryan
Terrible timing for this episode to come out.
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the_popcorn_podcast
yeah But yeah, they they go through the bottom of it more and they, you know, I felt the shape shifter stuff was pretty cool.
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Ryan
But yeah, they they go through the plot a little bit more and they, you know, I thought the shape shifter stuff was pretty cool seeing her.
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the_popcorn_podcast
Seeing her walk down up to her guy.
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Ryan
Well, I don't know if it's a herd. guy, but the way they they have to use their powers and just rip the skin off, it's fucking him awesome.
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the_popcorn_podcast
But the way they have to use their power to use the rip the skin off, it's fucking awesome. Like, they're running through the hallway, chasing them, and ripping the skin off.
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Ryan
They're running through the hallway chasing them and just ripping the skin off. it's it's disgusting It was disgusting.
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the_popcorn_podcast
It was disgusting for us all. but you know it's what It's what the boys does the best.
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Ryan
it's you know it's what It's what the boys does the best. You're bringing the superpower that everybody knows from something famous, Spider-Man, but he shoots his webs out of his ass.
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the_popcorn_podcast
You bring in the super power that everybody knows from some of the things, you know. Spider-Man, but he shoots his webs out of his ass. Not out of his ass.
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Ryan
you know but It's basically out of his ass.
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the_popcorn_podcast
It's basically out of his ass. It's right above his ass.
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Ryan
It's right above his ass.
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the_popcorn_podcast
It's his own hole.
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Ryan
I understand that, but it's right above his ass.
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the_popcorn_podcast
I understand that, but it's right above his ass, right? Yeah, it's the best part of the show, is just seeing how they can defile these superpowers that people have come to love.
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Ryan
Yeah, it's it's the best part of the show is just seeing how they can defile these superpowers that people have come to love.

Creative Elements in 'The Boys'

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the_popcorn_podcast
Defile?
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Ryan
Yeah, so making it so disgusting.
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the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah. So, it's just so much fun to be by first time.
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Ryan
It's it's just so much fun to watch every single time. But um yeah, I mean, it's pretty cool to see.
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the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah, I mean, it's... pretty cool to see
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Ryan
um I lost my train of thought.
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the_popcorn_podcast
um lost especially no
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Ryan
What do you have?
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the_popcorn_podcast
ah
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Ryan
ah ah a train of thought yeah He is the actual lead that we all end up killing the news guy.
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the_popcorn_podcast
Well with a train we know that he's He is the actual leak that we all that they end up killing the news guy for and they're trying to stuff it out They eventually do find out in this episode that he is the leak black noir and the deep figure it out Well, they don't figure it out.
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Ryan
And if the trying of stuff goes out, he'll actually do find out. If you really reflect the war and he can get out and explain it to him.
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the_popcorn_podcast
He pretty much explains it to them. Yeah
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Ryan
If I can tell someone that she thinks
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the_popcorn_podcast
Firecracker tells Homeland that she thinks she has found the leak in Webweaver, which is not true at all.
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Ryan
what weaver it's not true
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the_popcorn_podcast
And we get to see Homelander go down to an interrogation room and talk to Webweaver.
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Ryan
and man down these
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Ryan
webra and in
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the_popcorn_podcast
And in that sequence, we again, they like to defile famous superpowers this time with Spider-Man.
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Ryan
i
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the_popcorn_podcast
And as he gets nervous, he keeps shooting webs out.
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Ryan
as he gets nervousr shooting web out
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the_popcorn_podcast
And it's one of the most disgusting things I've ever it it was worse than the sauna scene to me.
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Ryan
casting was sports thing so
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the_popcorn_podcast
All those things are easy.
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Ryan
all
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the_popcorn_podcast
This I don't know what it was.
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Ryan
i know what it was I don't know if easy is the right word, but yeah
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the_popcorn_podcast
um don't know if these
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Ryan
I don't know.
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the_popcorn_podcast
i i thought
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Ryan
I thought it was funny. It's it's definitely gross, on the but really, it was so I didn't think it was that bad.
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the_popcorn_podcast
I was like on the verge of gagging from it. It was so disgusting Why was it so chunky smart next to exist Oh um My god, it's one of the worst things yeah, and as I said, they'd killed ah VNN news anchor Cameron Coleman and Yeah, pretty much their taco Carlson
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Ryan
I was just cracking up. It was so funny. Why was it so chunky? He's nervous. It's right next to his ass, dude. Oh my God. That's one of the worst things. yeah, i some they said they had killed Colman. Tucker Carlson. Yeah.
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the_popcorn_podcast
i
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Ryan
wonder then
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the_popcorn_podcast
Homelander then when the we were we were pretty much Quote-unquote admits to be in the leak only i just rips him in half.
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Ryan
when we
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Ryan
being the just rips them in half
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the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah, and I that was so fucking cool i mean he i think what we were new what He was just He could be a thought and get his fix I think he he underestimated
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Ryan
yeah Yeah, I mean he I think what we were knew what he was getting into but I mean sage says it later on like he wasn't Admitting to being leek. He was just admitting to anything so he could be in a He could be at vault and get his fix. So I think he, he underestimated just how much Homelander takes this seriously.
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the_popcorn_podcast
how much i later
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Ryan
And he gets torn in half.
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the_popcorn_podcast
is or I mean like legitimately in half and like seeing Firecracker gun gun powder was soldier boys.
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Ryan
It was so fucking sick. Yeah. And I like seeing, um, gunpowder, fire fire powder. Oh my God. gunpoder Gunpowder was sold to me as a sidekick.
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the_popcorn_podcast
ah firegraph just going to realize Oh Yes, there's a fucking loose can But it seems like she might up the dojans but
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Ryan
Yeah. Firecracker just like realized. Oh shit. What am I doing? This guy got to keep taking those pills.
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Ryan
It might help to do it. But we've talked about that Black and Warren people.
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the_popcorn_podcast
um We had talked about that black noir and the deeper the ones that eventually find out about a train and it before they find out we get a great scene between mother's milk and a train about.
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Ryan
They actually find out about each other. And it, before we find out, we can get a great scene with you. Well, there's no companion to the training about, well, there's a bunch of people need to know this family.
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the_popcorn_podcast
Mother's milk is going to leave. It's going to go with his family, which I mean, I kind of wanted him to get away.
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Ryan
Which I mean, I kind of wanted them to get away.
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the_popcorn_podcast
Sadly, it doesn't happen.
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Ryan
Sadly, it doesn't happen.
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the_popcorn_podcast
But.
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Ryan
But yeah, and then each one of them explains it.
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the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah, and then Adrian pretty much explains to him when he dropped him off the hospital, that little kid seeing him and no one else was in and that brought everything back that he wanted.
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Ryan
And when you talk about not seeing no one else's family, they tackle it.
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the_popcorn_podcast
Like he was finally a hero again when what he's done at the seven that's not being a hero.
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Ryan
smiling
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Ryan
guys
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the_popcorn_podcast
It's fans to them.
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Ryan
and yeah
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the_popcorn_podcast
And it was so different for him that he and he says he didn't hate himself anymore, which for a train seems to have been what the issue has been with him since the first episode of the entire show all the way to now.
00:11:09
Ryan
and so yeah yeah
00:11:15
Ryan
h first
00:11:19
the_popcorn_podcast
took the drugs because he didn't think he was good enough. So his brother and everything in between.
00:11:23
Ryan
and
00:11:24
the_popcorn_podcast
So I really enjoyed the scene. I think Mother's Milk and A-Train are two of my favorite characters. And A-Train finally was something that was probably my only downside of the show going into the season was I would just want to figure out if you're going to make them good or bad at this point because they were really teetering it for a couple of two seasons almost.
00:11:29
Ryan
and adrianne finally seven that's not being in here because fans yeah and it was so different yeah during
00:11:41
the_popcorn_podcast
And so, yeah, I was really happy with where the way they took A-Train and where they're just taking the boys in total.
00:11:41
Ryan
and so yeah way they each but just kind of Yeah i and let me go and that funny more the actual show Yeah, yeah
00:11:47
the_popcorn_podcast
I like the butcher stuff and not everyone loves it. and I know people really don't like the Frenchie storylines, but I I like all that stuff. It's more The actual show wasn't going anywhere the characters had stuff. It's there's nothing in between I
00:12:00
Ryan
yeah like Yeah, with Frenchie, it was like all the Collins stuff kind of went nowhere. If they don't bring up anything in season five, then what was the point? you know yeah Yeah.
00:12:09
the_popcorn_podcast
guess it was him just trying to get redemption and doesn't yeah doesn't really get it from that in the end he and know feel Sad know
00:12:12
Ryan
But in the end, he ends up but exactly where he was. So it still just it did nothing for the for the show.
00:12:17
the_popcorn_podcast
the show
00:12:18
Ryan
um And I think that's, like ah like I was saying earlier, like that was kind of a thing with season four as a whole, just kind of things happening that don't really lead much of anywhere until the end.
00:12:19
the_popcorn_podcast
And I think that's what I was saying earlier, that was kind of a thing with season four as a whole, just kind of things happening at home, we leave much of anywhere until the end.
00:12:29
Ryan
um But yeah, I thought that scene with A-Train and MM was great because I mean, you saw him in the last episode when that kid looks at him.
00:12:31
the_popcorn_podcast
But yeah, I thought that scene with Adrian was great. I mean, you saw him in the last episode, when that kid looks at him, it was the one time we've seen him happy in this entire show.
00:12:37
Ryan
It was the one time we've seen him happy in this entire show.
00:12:40
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah, real happy, not faking it.
00:12:40
Ryan
Yeah. Like, yeah. Mm-hmm.
00:12:44
the_popcorn_podcast
And then we get the deep and whatever the act was saying until this went
00:12:44
Ryan
We get the Deep and whatever the octopus's name is till this one.
00:12:49
the_popcorn_podcast
yeah Yeah, fucking no wasn't I feel bad for her at all shut up Tilda Every time it stopped I was like I know it's gonna happen two more times and then she'll die yeah, I did I was like, okay
00:12:49
Ryan
And man, that was sad. It wasn't. It was so good. um
00:12:59
Ryan
she's like gargling waits like 10 seconds i'm gonna gonna get yeah it was so great oh talk any drink talk yeah okay
00:13:08
the_popcorn_podcast
Um, oh the boy talks about Ashley a train talks about Ashley about getting out He's like there's a chance that this is where we go and she's like no I Was so mad.
00:13:16
Ryan
like so
00:13:20
Ryan
i so
00:13:20
the_popcorn_podcast
I was like just get the fuck it out of there Ashley Yeah, you can if I go to Antarctica they I'm finding my ass And no one will ever see me
00:13:22
Ryan
Yeah, well she's got a point like tonight you can't hide forever bought is everywhere no, it's everywhere Homelander will fucking kill you in Antarctica Yeah, he'll get it like a team of polar bears and just hunt your ass down Yeah feed up polar bears did oh
00:13:36
the_popcorn_podcast
had like
00:13:40
the_popcorn_podcast
Decent get like a megalodon a Cthulhu.
00:13:45
the_popcorn_podcast
Oh See no cuz I mean if that would work cuz the fucking killer sheep on V killed a bull Remember yeah I feel like a bulls like the pretty close to the polar bear right like strength wise and all that The bulls are scary i ah horns
00:13:47
Ryan
i if i' mean kill team on eight
00:13:54
Ryan
Yeah, they kill the bull, yeah.
00:13:58
Ryan
What?
00:14:01
Ryan
I don't know, maybe. I understand that. It's a fucking polar bear, dude.
00:14:04
the_popcorn_podcast
good Polar bears are crazy because they don't have food and they're just angry and eat Yeah, yeah they're the most violent is they don't they'd never had interaction they're just hungry Yeah you love And Klondike barks I'm not gonna lie.
00:14:08
Ryan
Yeah, they eat everything. Polar bears are scarier than grizzlies. Yeah. Yeah. They just eat. They do have fun though. They love Coca-Cola. Absolutely love it. Yeah, yeah. They're adorable creatures. You should get a pet polar bear.
00:14:28
the_popcorn_podcast
I started really looking into buying a monkey would you like a marmoset
00:14:31
Ryan
Why would you buy a monkey? Because that video you sent me, that little one?
00:14:34
the_popcorn_podcast
I only send you one.
00:14:36
Ryan
Yeah.
00:14:36
the_popcorn_podcast
I saw my mom like 30 in the last two days No,
00:14:36
Ryan
so No, I found that account like a week ago and I but went through every video. oh
00:14:40
the_popcorn_podcast
how's

Brief Diversion: Funny Monkey Videos

00:14:41
Ryan
It's the cutest monkey.
00:14:41
the_popcorn_podcast
something and then Winston he's my favorite monkey page Winston he wears a diaper a hat lo um know that is Well back in oh oh That's the one a new documentary just came out about that on max.
00:14:42
Ryan
no that Winston? okay Yeah, a yeah, yeah. You like Travis? Travis the chimp? He was a good one. He ripped the lady's face off. It was bad. Oh, did it?
00:14:58
the_popcorn_podcast
I think yeah
00:14:58
Ryan
Oh, okay. That's cool.
00:14:59
the_popcorn_podcast
um and Another thing was Kimiko real Kimiko.
00:15:01
Ryan
You ever listen to the 911 recording?
00:15:03
the_popcorn_podcast
No, I don't want to hear it. I'm guessing you hear the age is going crazy Is it like the scene in nope?
00:15:06
Ryan
It's not fun. It's not good. It's yeah. Yeah, pretty much.
00:15:10
the_popcorn_podcast
I've seen ruin anytime he ever wanting an ape yeah ah Kimiko reveals the reason why she doesn't speak because Ryan correcting on how I say her name and I thought this was a really good scene on learning about her real reason for not talking anymore It's really sad seeing how many kids she had to kill as a child herself
00:15:11
Ryan
yep Yeah. Yeah. ki out deal speak
00:15:19
Ryan
and i thought this is a really good screen
00:15:25
Ryan
ae really and see how many kids go and so yeah
00:15:31
the_popcorn_podcast
And yeah, that's the hunger games.
00:15:31
Ryan
Says the guy who loves the Hunger Games so much Yeah,
00:15:35
the_popcorn_podcast
That's cool. And Jennifer Lawrence is in it. Um, during the her time, the shine light elder members had taught them how to move like ghost and in order them for the train, they had to fight free of noise. So they, that's how they fights when they would line them to up and it was whoever made more noise and they would die and they just did with a little knife. It wasn't like swords or guns.
00:15:54
Ryan
wasn't yeah it was like pocket knives yeah fucked up
00:15:55
the_popcorn_podcast
It was. Yeah, yeah that was. Yeah. I think Kimiko Kimiko speaks about the first time she says I killed her without making a sound and then when she was allowed to speak and she couldn't there was nothing there Which is a real traumatic thing to have you know, not every time does it last 20 some years?
00:16:04
Ryan
and know she wasn't yeah nothing which is a
00:16:11
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah, but people will go into silence and they don't speak but hers just Let's
00:16:12
Ryan
Yeah. go but Yeah. you don't use it, you lose it. And she was also like, when the boys found her, she was just tied up, held cap and captain shirt. God knows how long. So I'm sure she didn't speak for a couple of years when she was like that.
00:16:25
the_popcorn_podcast
forget that how
00:16:29
the_popcorn_podcast
Couple years since she was like seven and then when she killed it was probably 12 when she kills her Yeah, they said that she didn't speak from the time she killed that girl but i she that fairly And she got the
00:16:29
Ryan
couple was like Well, yeah, I know. But we don't know when she got the V. yeah What do I understand that but I mean I mean like when she was in captivity Like beat up because I assume she's probably working with them and then she got the V maybe like went crazy not crazy but Yeah Yeah
00:16:49
the_popcorn_podcast
Or they gave her the V to make it like a super soldier for them. ah But she uses this to relate with Frenchie, who again, we talked about this whole season, he's been dealing with his past as an assassin. And she looks in the mirror.
00:17:01
Ryan
she and
00:17:01
the_popcorn_podcast
They both say they pretty much have looked in the mirror and they don't like who they are anymore.
00:17:04
Ryan
yeah
00:17:05
the_popcorn_podcast
And it's a fair thing. These people have had to do some of the most horrendous things in the world.
00:17:06
Ryan
people have had to do some of the most horrendous things in the world.

Complex Morality in 'The Boys'

00:17:10
the_popcorn_podcast
I mean, every single one from Annie to Huey to Butcher to Mother to every single one has done bad things in this show.
00:17:10
Ryan
I mean, I just want from Annie to Huey to Butcher to every single one of them has done bad things in the show.
00:17:17
the_popcorn_podcast
There's no truly good.
00:17:17
Ryan
You know, truly, I think Huey
00:17:19
the_popcorn_podcast
I think Huey's probably a good guy. Right? I think Huey's probably the best of them.
00:17:23
Ryan
Yeah, he was the best but Yeah, yeah, he blew up a guy's ass Translucent And he immediately watches the news and it's like he now is his orphan child's Damn it.
00:17:25
the_popcorn_podcast
Even Huey's had to do. He still had to kill people. Oh my God. I forgot he killed them. Yeah. Translucent. He's in a cage. Great scene.
00:17:40
the_popcorn_podcast
about that translucent was a great little hero yeah yeah that was like the third episode kills him cuz they don't and as Ryan said the deep does murder here's a chaotic love ambrosus I'm
00:17:41
Ryan
probably Yeah, it's great Yeah, it was like the first real kill in the show Yeah, I think so
00:17:49
Ryan
know Maybe during the second episode, the end of the second.
00:17:54
Ryan
<unk> murder
00:17:58
Ryan
emro Yes. Adorable. Yeah. It was so great. What are you looking at?
00:18:05
the_popcorn_podcast
looking at a text Ashlyn
00:18:07
Ryan
From who? Is he common?
00:18:10
the_popcorn_podcast
She ah she said if you need someone else Carson is willing to know She said but it's a back-up if Kieran can't go we'll go back talk more about a ambrocious
00:18:14
Ryan
God damn it. It's not who I want. Okay. Okay. Okay. go back. Yeah. Understand that. I understand. Go Phil's. Yeah. And brochures fucking died. She had a comment. She couldn't stop talking shit.
00:18:32
Ryan
Did that to herself. ah Um,
00:18:33
the_popcorn_podcast
um she said Um, well, we'll move on with that. We'll move to Homelander.
00:18:38
Ryan
yeah.
00:18:38
the_popcorn_podcast
Homelander Fire Sage, as I talked about in the beginning of the episode.
00:18:40
Ryan
Uh,
00:18:41
the_popcorn_podcast
Um, again, he was sick about and angry about how she pretty much handled herself at Tech Night when she got her, when she got shot in the fucking head.
00:18:42
Ryan
again
00:18:44
Ryan
hand guys Yeah.
00:18:49
the_popcorn_podcast
And he just tells her to get out of here.
00:18:51
Ryan
tells me and she peter ah knew that but i was i was hoping way i Yeah.
00:18:51
the_popcorn_podcast
He's like, you're done. He's like, I don't need you anymore. And she does. She just disappears. I knew, I knew that wasn't it. But i was I was hoping that they didn't bring her around some stupid way. like I hope I wanted to just make sense because she is the smartest person alive.
00:19:04
Ryan
Yeah. Yeah. more yeah
00:19:07
the_popcorn_podcast
She should be able to have a plan of how to solve it.
00:19:08
Ryan
have Yes, of course.
00:19:10
the_popcorn_podcast
Of course, they always have a plan.
00:19:10
Ryan
They always do. It's every time it's the smartest person alive thing. They always come back.
00:19:15
the_popcorn_podcast
Well, actually, There were actually three backup plans that all went according to my plan.
00:19:15
Ryan
It's like, well, actually you went right into my plan, which was the plan that I had. There were actually three backup plans that all went according to plan. Cause I'm the smartest.
00:19:24
the_popcorn_podcast
Because I'm the smartest. and how Yeah.
00:19:28
Ryan
it's how It always sucks.
00:19:29
the_popcorn_podcast
it's one of those things that like, I get it, but it's always, so I did like how they had her leave though.
00:19:29
Ryan
it's it's one of the like It's one of those things that I get it, but it's always like Jesus Christ. You can't show it and any better than that.
00:19:40
Ryan
Yeah.
00:19:40
the_popcorn_podcast
She says that she's like, you'll never be able to defeat people this one person.
00:19:43
Ryan
I can't wait to see her again.
00:19:43
the_popcorn_podcast
And actually she believes she leaves the drawing of Maeve, who you had talked about the episode before. Why don't you come back? So maybe you were right. Maybe I was wrong. She's not the best.
00:19:54
Ryan
She rules, dude.
00:19:55
the_popcorn_podcast
Now we'll talk about the best character in next in episode eight stuff. Um, Annie and Starlight, we find out towards the end of the episode, her and, her and Huey have a nice moment together where she comes down in her costume, who Huey had been keeping.

Huey and Annie's Relationship

00:20:08
the_popcorn_podcast
They have a nice, uh, passionate love moment.
00:20:12
Ryan
Of course, a couple fingers, just a couple.
00:20:14
the_popcorn_podcast
Couple fingers. Uh, you know, Huey was living his best life right then.
00:20:17
Ryan
Huey was having a great time.
00:20:22
the_popcorn_podcast
And we talked about early in the episode when
00:20:22
Ryan
And we talked about earlier in the interview, it is a good problem to have a doctor who's a detailed homeland.
00:20:24
the_popcorn_podcast
ah Annie and he we broken the duck into the apartment. They found the documents that detailed Homelander and Their plot to kill president elect Robert Singer while Bill ah they also found that they They thought a hostage who was assumed who could shapeshift who they then tried to capture she evades them But after they have sex it cuts to later he was sleeping Annie still awake Gets up walks over to the safe
00:20:31
Ryan
There are plots killing the president a lot. Yup. Singer, that's what it is. Wow, Bill. They've got a hostage with a suit that could change it. Right. within But after they expect it to come still later, he was sleeping and he's still awake. gets lost two
00:20:54
the_popcorn_podcast
And she takes out the computer which has all the documents on it.
00:20:54
Ryan
here's takesa you the toin thats all
00:20:57
the_popcorn_podcast
Everything against Newman and all that.
00:20:57
Ryan
it's It's all the blackmail on Newman.
00:21:00
the_popcorn_podcast
What's up?
00:21:00
Ryan
I said, it's all the blackmail on Newman.
00:21:02
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah.
00:21:02
Ryan
I just cut you off for no reason. I just, I don't know why I did that.
00:21:05
the_popcorn_podcast
but it's It's okay. ah And as she grabs it, she turns and her eyes do a different kind of blink that isn't her eyes.
00:21:08
Ryan
i
00:21:10
Ryan
and ae like Yes, quite reptilian.
00:21:14
the_popcorn_podcast
And yes.
00:21:15
Ryan
Yes, of course.
00:21:17
the_popcorn_podcast
Uh, then we, we cut to the real Annie who was chained up in a filthy room where she finally came to.
00:21:17
Ryan
so best
00:21:21
the_popcorn_podcast
And she remembered that she changed her identity in the Starlight.
00:21:23
Ryan
scar
00:21:24
the_popcorn_podcast
Uh, when she was a Starlight fan and she sees and in the bar touches her, takes a picture with her and she's abducted from there and didn't think of that at all.
00:21:24
Ryan
well she was a star and and she see and thanks
00:21:32
Ryan
So that was smart I didn't I had no idea I completely went over my head. Yeah and i me but Yeah, really is really well done.
00:21:38
the_popcorn_podcast
I mean, I don't think most people know. Yeah.
00:21:41
Ryan
It was a good reveal at the end Oh
00:21:41
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah. ye The size of oh and butcher is at the bar with any after any quote-unquote leaves he is talking to Jeffrey Dean Morgan or the virus in him and they're watching Ryan who's on the
00:21:46
Ryan
buter is that far with And I believe he is talking to a definitely more important virus. And they're watching Ryan. The TV show, the puppet is Christmas special.
00:21:58
the_popcorn_podcast
The TV show, the puppets Christmas special. And Ryan stops and he gives a really good speech.
00:22:01
Ryan
And Ryan stops and gives a really good speech.
00:22:04
the_popcorn_podcast
And butchers like, see, I don't need you anymore.
00:22:05
Ryan
And put just this thing, I don't need you anymore.
00:22:07
the_popcorn_podcast
I trust this kid.
00:22:07
Ryan
I trust this kid.
00:22:08
the_popcorn_podcast
And he fucking collapses and goes face first into the ground.
00:22:08
Ryan
And he fucking calls us. It's a ghost-based version of the ground.
00:22:13
the_popcorn_podcast
End of episode.
00:22:14
Ryan
Hmm, dude, I thought when that, um, cause Jeffrey Dean Morgan says, uh, I keep forgetting the characters named Joe something or other.
00:22:15
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah, look, with that, because you're reading what it says at the time, keep getting the characters in the show somewhere.
00:22:22
Ryan
Um, he says like the, the whole time butchers, like you only come out when, when you want to, he's like, all right, I'll come out now.
00:22:23
the_popcorn_podcast
It says like the old time butchers let me like them out. want yeah
00:22:29
Ryan
I thought when that lady ran out to like help him, I thought he was just going to explore and kill everybody in that bar.
00:22:29
the_popcorn_podcast
i thought okay yeah
00:22:34
Ryan
Um, which doesn't happen, but also one of my other favorite parts of the episode.
00:22:36
the_popcorn_podcast
but awesome
00:22:39
Ryan
was when, um, Homelander sitting in right when, uh, Sage walks in before that, Homelander's like, how could A-Train do this to me?
00:22:41
the_popcorn_podcast
i will it was
00:22:46
Ryan
It's so funny.
00:22:46
the_popcorn_podcast
so every time that
00:22:47
Ryan
Every time he has one of those moments, it's like, dude.
00:22:49
the_popcorn_podcast
Him and in Black Noir the season before.
00:22:50
Ryan
of black more Yeah, yeah, he's like how could you do this to me?
00:22:51
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah, I don't know.
00:22:53
Ryan
I don't know cuz you fucking hate everybody Everybody despises you it's just so funny seeing how much he doesn't understand How people around him think of him like he just purely rules through fear and then when he rolls through fear when he rolls through fear And he doesn't something bad happens.
00:22:53
the_popcorn_podcast
Did you fucking hate everybody? everybody is fire just so
00:23:03
the_popcorn_podcast
like he just really the best way to rule but here yeah like
00:23:10
Ryan
He's like why are they so scared of me?
00:23:11
the_popcorn_podcast
fire me
00:23:12
Ryan
It's just so funny. every Yeah, it's fantastic
00:23:13
the_popcorn_podcast
ah wonder um but Yes, episode seven I thought was really good so I did think it was the best episode of the season ah and I mean the final
00:23:16
Ryan
yeah um do
00:23:22
Ryan
I agree. I mean, the final 15 minutes, I mean, I was like ready to watch this.
00:23:25
the_popcorn_podcast
15 minutes. I mean, I was like ready to watch the next season. Yeah, I think exactly what they want to do.
00:23:29
Ryan
Yeah. Exactly. It was the whole season.
00:23:32
the_popcorn_podcast
I just wish the whole season stayed at the level this episode and ah eight state.
00:23:34
Ryan
Yeah.
00:23:37
Ryan
yeah When the fuck did Amazon start putting ads on an episode?
00:23:41
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah, Like a couple of months ago, I have to finish the bear. but I get and watch Cobra Kai.
00:23:45
Ryan
I just finished it the other day. hi Very good.
00:23:48
the_popcorn_podcast
Love Cobra Kai.
00:23:49
Ryan
Yeah, bear was great.
00:23:50
the_popcorn_podcast
Was it great there?
00:23:50
Ryan
Cobra Kai was great. Yeah. Very, very good. that Yeah, I could do that.
00:23:54
the_popcorn_podcast
That's what you should do a solo episode on because it's good. That's gonna take me a lot again. Yeah One tree hell.
00:23:57
Ryan
Yeah. one thousand Yeah.
00:23:59
the_popcorn_podcast
It's some reason just holding my attention very wild because it just cause it all dropped you One I've gotten so used to like weekly episodes I just watched it wasn't there and just you know, stop watching tonight
00:24:01
Ryan
The bear, it took me a while to get through, not because it was bad or anything, just cause, cause it all dropped at once. I've gotten so used to. Like weekly episodes with like House of the Dragon and the boys. I just watched like, I would watch a couple episodes of the bear and just without thinking, I, you know, stop watching for the night and then forget about it for like a week and be like, Oh shit, I got it.
00:24:20
the_popcorn_podcast
and then forget and they like fuck it's already there
00:24:23
Ryan
I can keep watching this. Like this is, I don't know. I think ah we've said before that the week weekly is better than like the binge model.
00:24:26
the_popcorn_podcast
we
00:24:31
Ryan
But I think I didn't really realize until I was watching the bear, like now that I'd gotten used to weekly, the binge is kind of like, I forgot about it.
00:24:31
the_popcorn_podcast
but love weekly television i think i didn't really realize ah that i and
00:24:40
Ryan
You know what I mean?
00:24:40
the_popcorn_podcast
I don't like the binge.
00:24:41
Ryan
either do i i Yeah, exactly.
00:24:41
the_popcorn_podcast
It blends everything. to me
00:24:43
Ryan
i I've always preferred the weekly. I just think it's more fun, especially because, you know, you get to talk about it and like think about what happened the week prior and then go into the next episode.
00:24:48
the_popcorn_podcast
get
00:24:53
Ryan
But, um, I didn't realize how much the binge was like you watch a couple and then you just forget about it.
00:24:57
the_popcorn_podcast
wife yeah cause you learn on
00:25:00
Ryan
Cause you're like, Oh, I just blew through that. You know, now I got to wait.
00:25:01
the_popcorn_podcast
you know Yeah Because big because now with the shows and most of the shows we review it is weekly.
00:25:02
Ryan
You don't have to wait. I don't know. It's just a weird thing that happened to me.
00:25:07
Ryan
Yeah.
00:25:08
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah, Ahsoka was weekly.
00:25:09
Ryan
yeah so
00:25:10
the_popcorn_podcast
This is weekly forget Definitely having with the bear when it first dropped.
00:25:11
Ryan
Mm-hmm. Yeah, I just wonder if that happens to anybody else that kind of forget that they can watch the whole thing and are like, oh shit, I can keep this. Yeah.
00:25:19
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah, I don't think it's having since then but I'm also a lot farther behind
00:25:22
Ryan
But the bear was great.
00:25:22
the_popcorn_podcast
um Yes, very good well if At the end yeah, really yes, there's a cliffhanger in the bear.
00:25:24
Ryan
Very good. Although, bigger cliffhanger than this was. Yeah. Really? Yes. a click There's a massive cliffhanger.
00:25:33
the_popcorn_podcast
It's pretty like straightforward show It's
00:25:34
Ryan
It's pretty, it is. And then a lot of things happen and you're like, oh no. But it was great.
00:25:40
the_popcorn_podcast
gonna be a while Because what's his name can't film it Moss of
00:25:41
Ryan
I can't wait for season four now. It hits me a while. I know it's going to be a while, which sucks. But the one season three leaves off.
00:25:50
Ryan
ah yeah Oh, abemont yeah.
00:25:53
the_popcorn_podcast
Cousin.
00:25:54
Ryan
Abin Malt, yeah.
00:25:55
the_popcorn_podcast
Evan Moss...
00:25:55
Ryan
Abin? Some like that?
00:25:57
the_popcorn_podcast
danger?
00:25:57
Ryan
Some are other. I don't remember. Oh, he's a great actor. But yeah, he's doing he's doing fantastic for her.
00:26:00
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah, he's playing the thing. They just started filming.
00:26:03
Ryan
Mm-hmm.
00:26:04
the_popcorn_podcast
Very excited.
00:26:04
Ryan
Very exciting. Yeah.
00:26:05
the_popcorn_podcast
ah you but Are you a Fantastic Four fan?
00:26:06
Ryan
I enjoy him.
00:26:08
the_popcorn_podcast
My dad and brother hate them.
00:26:08
Ryan
but that Really?
00:26:10
the_popcorn_podcast
My dad thinks Mr.
00:26:10
Ryan
It's because the movies are shit.
00:26:11
the_popcorn_podcast
Fantastic. No, he's hated them since the comics.
00:26:13
Ryan
Really.
00:26:14
the_popcorn_podcast
He's always thought they were ridiculous. i mean they are They are awesome.
00:26:15
Ryan
I mean, they are a little more like towards the ridiculous side. they But they are fun. Yeah.
00:26:20
the_popcorn_podcast
yeah
00:26:20
Ryan
that i I mean, there they're like Marvel's like goofball team.
00:26:21
the_popcorn_podcast
i mean like What do you mean?
00:26:24
Ryan
What do you mean? But they do cool things.
00:26:25
the_popcorn_podcast
That's so much cooler than Half the Avengers!
00:26:27
Ryan
and Like the powers are kind of goofballish.
00:26:27
the_popcorn_podcast
like the power it's very peace got stretching Stretchy man, I'd rather stretchy man than black widow and hulk guy!
00:26:29
Ryan
It's very basic. got stretching men stretching out You got man fire guy, rock guy and invisible lady.
00:26:38
the_popcorn_podcast
Fire guy, human torch is an icon!
00:26:40
Ryan
George is awesome. I understand that I'm not You're not was I enjoy the fantastic four.
00:26:42
the_popcorn_podcast
Sue Storm, dog. i very
00:26:47
Ryan
I'm very excited for this movie. I still don't love Pedro Pascal I'm just gonna throw that in their home them But he's gonna do like one maybe two movies and then fucking die like he's not he's too I understand that I'm angry I'm just saying things go be Joel motherfucker.
00:26:49
the_popcorn_podcast
He's gonna be way better than John Krasinski would have been. but hes the like it's not that old um name just say be drunk on talking step forward
00:27:01
Ryan
Stop doing this Yeah, go be Joel
00:27:03
the_popcorn_podcast
No, I wouldn't mean everything this man is the Mandalorian Joel and mr.
00:27:05
Ryan
in joel and
00:27:07
the_popcorn_podcast
Fantastic right now It's gonna be more than that they're splitting this game into two seasons Yeah
00:27:08
Ryan
There'll be Joel for two episodes and then go play golf. You piece of shit. Let's go.
00:27:14
Ryan
All right. Four episodes. yeahh Maybe. my dad
00:27:19
the_popcorn_podcast
My dad has- I love that my whole family has no idea what happened.
00:27:20
Ryan
love it my whole Yeah, that's exciting.
00:27:23
the_popcorn_podcast
God, it's good that season's gonna be so good.
00:27:25
Ryan
Yeah. My dad didn't even love the first season, but he doesn't know either.
00:27:27
the_popcorn_podcast
i got My dad loved it.
00:27:29
Ryan
My dad, my dad, my dad liked it, but he was like, all right, that was a good show.
00:27:30
the_popcorn_podcast
My whole family loved it. They all watched it together.
00:27:34
Ryan
He didn't.
00:27:34
the_popcorn_podcast
I love that finale.
00:27:35
Ryan
Yeah, it was great.
00:27:37
the_popcorn_podcast
God, he really just dogs that doctor. My mom was- I was downstating and I remember the one and my mom was like, oh my god!
00:27:40
Ryan
my i Yeah.
00:27:45
the_popcorn_podcast
I can't- I thought you lit them on fire.
00:27:45
Ryan
I shot the shit out of that doctor. I don't remember if I did or not.
00:27:50
the_popcorn_podcast
i Just using machine gun really quick i get but I Just had the machine gun just't let it rip into the doorway so good yes so It's free, oh you don't have premium premium has everything
00:27:52
Ryan
I may have lit them on fire on like a second playthrough, but the first time I was like...
00:28:00
Ryan
Yeah, I still gotta play the second game too because I want to play it before I watch the show again Because I played the first game after I watched the show because it came out on PC So I gotta to buy last of us two unless it great. It wasn't on the PlayStation thing. I Don't know if I have that one Okay Yeah, there's a lot Yeah
00:28:21
the_popcorn_podcast
um But yeah episode 8 finale of the boys season 4, of course This could be spoilers for this because seen episode 7 came out two weeks ago.
00:28:22
Ryan
su probably
00:28:26
Ryan
boilers absolutely
00:28:29
the_popcorn_podcast
So if you haven't seen that Episode 8 if you still haven't watched it definitely go watch it It's a hundred percent in my opinion and Ryan agreed best episode of the season and it really does just set up Gen V season 2 boys final season ah but yeah episode 8 closed out an eventful season for prime video and Some
00:28:29
Ryan
yeah yeah um
00:28:36
Ryan
press really and
00:28:42
Ryan
yeah Yeah.
00:28:50
the_popcorn_podcast
Characters don't get to walk out of this one.
00:28:53
Ryan
Yeah.
00:28:53
the_popcorn_podcast
Characters I was not expecting not to walk out.
00:28:55
Ryan
yeah
00:28:56
the_popcorn_podcast
And yeah, I just smacked the mic.
00:28:56
Ryan
and yeah
00:28:59
Ryan
You smack the mic.
00:29:01
the_popcorn_podcast
Kimiko and Frenchie finally locked the lips.
00:29:03
Ryan
Well, hold on.
00:29:04
the_popcorn_podcast
well No, that's the best part of this episode.
00:29:05
Ryan
Before we get there, we have we have to talk about the saddest part of this episode.
00:29:09
the_popcorn_podcast
Nothing, they kissed.
00:29:10
Ryan
They canceled Training A Train.
00:29:12
the_popcorn_podcast
Dude, that was so, I forgot, that that was so funny to pick at just, fuck you, Warner Brothers.
00:29:12
Ryan
that was so i
00:29:18
Ryan
yeah yeah yeah So funny.
00:29:18
the_popcorn_podcast
Give us a bad girl.
00:29:21
the_popcorn_podcast
I still want to see that movie.
00:29:22
Ryan
I want to see Training A Train.
00:29:22
the_popcorn_podcast
um want I want to see Batgirl though.
00:29:25
Ryan
I do still want to see Bad Girl.
00:29:25
the_popcorn_podcast
I want to know how bad it had to be that they were like, this is going to, it is better for us to eat the loss than make anything.
00:29:28
Ryan
Yeah. is beautiful eat the Yes. then To eat, what was it, like 80, 90 mil?
00:29:34
the_popcorn_podcast
120. um
00:29:35
Ryan
120. Fuck. Jesus.
00:29:38
the_popcorn_podcast
Do you like the new DC logo?
00:29:38
Ryan
James Gunn can just, just put it on, just put it on YouTube or something. I love it.
00:29:43
the_popcorn_podcast
I'm a massive fan.
00:29:44
Ryan
I love it.
00:29:45
the_popcorn_podcast
It's very old school. it's
00:29:46
Ryan
It's inviting.
00:29:47
the_popcorn_podcast
It's also the old school logo.
00:29:47
Ryan
also be I understand that, but it's not, you know, it's not a fucking black slate with ashes on it.
00:29:48
the_popcorn_podcast
for instance Black. Well, I did like that one, but this is more like the DC I want.
00:29:52
Ryan
You're like, why would I go see this? Doesn't look fun. this is for like Yeah.
00:29:57
the_popcorn_podcast
We're like Batman can still be as dark Batman, but everyone else can be thirsty.
00:29:58
Ryan
but
00:30:01
Ryan
Yeah. The new logo was like, Oh, that's, that looks cool. I want to, it's inviting.
00:30:03
the_popcorn_podcast
Or DC Comics.
00:30:05
Ryan
I want you to go see that movie now. I will go out to see that. It's not, Oh fuck, this movie is going to be sad as shit.
00:30:07
the_popcorn_podcast
It's not be violent.
00:30:10
Ryan
I don't want to spend my Sunday on that. yeah
00:30:13
the_popcorn_podcast
Well, violent doesn't mean it's not going to make money. Look at Deadpool. It's about across 400 million dollars already already.
00:30:19
Ryan
It's the biggest, it was the biggest weekend for an already movie, right?
00:30:19
the_popcorn_podcast
That is fucking wild.
00:30:24
the_popcorn_podcast
then It might be the top five biggest movie opening ever.
00:30:27
Ryan
Yeah, it's crazy. Banger.
00:30:31
the_popcorn_podcast
Very good.
00:30:31
Ryan
Sorry.
00:30:33
the_popcorn_podcast
We'll talk about that in then let's talk about that in in our Deadpool review about it.
00:30:34
Ryan
oh Oh boy.
00:30:39
the_popcorn_podcast
But yeah, they did cancel um Training A Train, which was a very nice dig at Warner Bros.
00:30:39
Ryan
Yeah. a special Training. can and Back girl. ah
00:30:48
the_popcorn_podcast
and Batgirl. And yeah, we get to see...
00:30:50
Ryan
yeah
00:30:52
the_popcorn_podcast
very builder Oh, the Shapeshifter, we get to see more about that and how the situation goes with Huey.
00:30:54
Ryan
oh
00:30:56
Ryan
Situation.
00:30:58
the_popcorn_podcast
and Well, Huey's having a great time with the Shapeshifter.
00:30:58
Ryan
And. Well, he's had a great here wes having a fantastic time. And now I want to bring up the fact that that didn't take him off.
00:31:03
the_popcorn_podcast
and i want to bring the fact that didn't off
00:31:08
the_popcorn_podcast
seventy
00:31:08
Ryan
He's having a great time all the time.
00:31:10
Ryan
You know what I mean?
00:31:10
the_popcorn_podcast
i mean
00:31:11
Ryan
Like if all of that is that it must mean it's just normal because none of that tipped him off at all.
00:31:12
the_popcorn_podcast
yeah so i mean maybe is just normal
00:31:17
Ryan
It was the fucking finding the keys and and other stuff. So he must be just having a fantastic time all the time.
00:31:20
the_popcorn_podcast
anything
00:31:25
the_popcorn_podcast
ah Yeah, so that means he was having a great sex life good for him um But we do know that the
00:31:26
Ryan
Yeah. i mean yeah Incredible. but we do know
00:31:32
the_popcorn_podcast
whole point of shapeshifter of being starlight is that she's going to get close and assassinate ah Robert Dakota Bob president who homelander has assigned Dakota Bob that's the guy from side of the lamp I knew it um yeah so the shapeshifter is going to try and take out the president elect and thank god starlight is eventually able to break free and the scene when Huey does finally it does click
00:31:32
Ryan
hope example can close ask
00:31:39
Ryan
president homeline ah That's what it is we were saying wild bill the entire fucking time yes no yes since And got
00:31:56
Ryan
and does smile it does that he he goes, and he's like, hey, can you talk to him?
00:32:00
the_popcorn_podcast
that She isn't and you just see him and he tells me he's like hey and he talked to you He's like what he's like looks look straight.
00:32:06
Ryan
And he's like, what? And he's like, look, straight. yeah district And and like, my god, congratulations.
00:32:08
the_popcorn_podcast
He tells him he's like And then them talking to her was such like a funny little sequence and him be like, oh my god I propose it's such a good mother's milk is a great character.
00:32:19
Ryan
I'm nervous.
00:32:21
the_popcorn_podcast
I'll never stop loving.
00:32:23
Ryan
What's his name again?
00:32:23
the_popcorn_podcast
What's his name again real life?
00:32:24
Ryan
Laz Alonzo.
00:32:26
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah, good actor I want to see I want him to be spawn
00:32:26
Ryan
Yeah, good actor. Let's see. Great. i want He's my, he's my jewel.
00:32:29
the_popcorn_podcast
He's my he's my choice to play spawn Yeah, because if those who don't know the spawn script is finally done.
00:32:31
Ryan
Yeah, I don't hate that. Those who don't know this one is finally done.
00:32:36
the_popcorn_podcast
It's only taken eight years since the announcement hope Why chanting Nah spawns more important to me that damn it fucking movie Every
00:32:37
Ryan
It's been taking years. Poor Channing Tatum dude.
00:32:44
Ryan
14 years. Finally. that yeah Yeah, we also forgot to mention the um the all lives matter black and white thing in the very beginning. Dude, it's every time they make fun of real celebrities.
00:32:56
the_popcorn_podcast
every
00:32:59
Ryan
It's so perfect.
00:32:59
the_popcorn_podcast
so The singing the song thing was one of the that was their season three, right when it's all the actors and actress thing Yeah, it's all an act like even in real life a lot of the times it feels that way they
00:33:00
Ryan
the same is Yeah, I think so. Yeah. and they got account with They got everybody. Yeah. But this one was like, um I just remember Aaron Paul was in it and he, his was the funniest one. I mean, it's all so like, you know, um, put on like it's, it's so, yeah, it's real like yeah real life. It just sucks. But when Aaron Paul did it in the original video, the real one, he just takes like, he's just sitting like this.
00:33:27
the_popcorn_podcast
just takes like
00:33:31
the_popcorn_podcast
i like so fucking Cause then the deep does it.
00:33:31
Ryan
I am it like, it's so fucking fake.
00:33:35
Ryan
Yeah. he sorry
00:33:35
the_popcorn_podcast
Deep's version is pretty much what he does.
00:33:36
Ryan
It just takes the deepest breath.
00:33:37
the_popcorn_podcast
So fun.
00:33:38
Ryan
It's so fucking gross. But, um, yeah, the way they make fun of it is fantastic.
00:33:40
the_popcorn_podcast
yeah the way But, yeah, first like big scene in the episode to me was especially Homelander exposes Newman for being a soup on live television.
00:33:43
Ryan
but yeah first like
00:33:47
Ryan
my is in being a suit um i Yeah.
00:33:52
the_popcorn_podcast
When I'm talking, me and my dad were saying like, and we both put our hands on her head, like, Oh no, dude, I thought heads were about to start popping like right there.
00:33:52
Ryan
i'm meeting my dare so and we both put our hands in our head like no i thought head of ru i were ho in ro yeah
00:34:00
the_popcorn_podcast
and thought Everyone was getting it.
00:34:01
Ryan
yeah um
00:34:02
the_popcorn_podcast
Um, but yeah Newman, of course, we all know she's super and she's been hiding this her entire life and They decide to make an appearance Newman and homelander on firecrackers internet TV show thing.
00:34:06
Ryan
and
00:34:14
Ryan
yeah
00:34:14
the_popcorn_podcast
It's pretty much like Oh,
00:34:15
Ryan
ah It's the same news thing that the ah Tucker Carlson guy was

Shocking Reveal on Live Television

00:34:18
Ryan
doing. She just took it over. She had her own thing, but then she became the host of that.
00:34:19
the_popcorn_podcast
I thought this was her own thing
00:34:21
the_popcorn_podcast
She has. Oh, she does take over.
00:34:23
Ryan
yeah
00:34:24
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah, it's it's called The Truth Bomb with Firecracker.
00:34:24
Ryan
yeah reboify yeah the
00:34:26
the_popcorn_podcast
The pair go on to discuss the the vice president elects anti-soup legislation and Homelander right away just goes into this state where he doesn't hear anything.
00:34:29
Ryan
like
00:34:32
Ryan
And Homelander, right away, goes into this scene, where he doesn't hear anything, he's just kind of staring off of it.
00:34:38
the_popcorn_podcast
He's just kind of staring off with that terrifying look that Anthony Starr has gotten so good while he hasn't gotten good at.
00:34:39
Ryan
It's a terrifying look, and Anthony starts to go out and squiggle it well, and he hasn't done good at it. Anthony starts to ask about this look, and he says, this is just how he looks.
00:34:44
the_popcorn_podcast
Anthony Starr has been asked about this look and he said this is just how he looks like.
00:34:47
Ryan
He's like, I don't do a face with a show.
00:34:47
the_popcorn_podcast
He's like, I don't do a face for the show.
00:34:49
Ryan
He's like, when I'm just out of daydreams, that's what I look like.
00:34:49
the_popcorn_podcast
He's like, when I'm just out of like Daydream, he's like, that's what I look like.
00:34:52
Ryan
He's just being a normal person.
00:34:53
the_popcorn_podcast
I fucking love Anthony, sorry.
00:34:53
Ryan
I fucking love you. He's the best.
00:34:55
the_popcorn_podcast
That dude is an icon. um And then all of a sudden he just goes, he goes, he just starts talking and everyone's like, oh no.
00:34:57
Ryan
And then all of a sudden, he goes, he just starts talking, and I want to pray out.
00:35:01
the_popcorn_podcast
And he's like, Victoria here is a superhero.
00:35:02
Ryan
Victoria, he was a human.
00:35:04
the_popcorn_podcast
And then he lasers her eyes.
00:35:04
Ryan
And then he lazes her eyes.
00:35:06
the_popcorn_podcast
And we were wrong, I thought that killed her.
00:35:07
Ryan
We were wrong. be like the lasers here I don't think
00:35:09
the_popcorn_podcast
Remember when we like brought that up before? We're like, does that, yeah, the lasers. Cause I thought we talked about with Jen V, like how would you kill her?
00:35:14
Ryan
that what we talked about the I don't remember.
00:35:17
the_popcorn_podcast
Oh.
00:35:18
Ryan
Cause she, I mean, she's bulletproof. She's all these things.
00:35:21
the_popcorn_podcast
um a laser beam.
00:35:21
Ryan
She's acid proof. Cause they threw acid on her in the first one. They tried to put it in the eyedrops.
00:35:24
the_popcorn_podcast
That was so funny. You guys suck at this.
00:35:28
Ryan
yeah what the fuck
00:35:31
the_popcorn_podcast
I love Newman.
00:35:31
Ryan
no yeah
00:35:32
the_popcorn_podcast
Of course, um I've talked about that every episode.
00:35:32
Ryan
i yeah Yeah, she's so much fun to watch because you never know I mean her power is it's scary than homelanders because homelander you see coming
00:35:35
the_popcorn_podcast
She's probably my favorite character besides Homelander. yeah
00:35:40
the_popcorn_podcast
Homelander is a scary person. Her power is scary because there's no telling when she's going to go.
00:35:44
Ryan
any There's no predicting it. She doesn't, I mean, I guess she has to be looking at you.
00:35:48
the_popcorn_podcast
i guess
00:35:50
Ryan
She does, but she can also do it from like the other, like if she's looking through a window, she's fucking on a tower a mile away.
00:35:50
the_popcorn_podcast
She does, but she can also put it together. She's looking through a window. She's fucking on the tower. She blows up here yeah fbi or the blows everyone's head.
00:36:00
Ryan
You know, cause she blows up the ah the FBI lady and not fbi CIA lady in season two. You don't even, yeah. Yeah. You don't even see it.
00:36:07
the_popcorn_podcast
She blows up everyone's head.
00:36:08
Ryan
It's just a crazy power.
00:36:09
the_popcorn_podcast
She blows up everyone's head. She blows up everyone's head. She blows up everyone's head. She blows up everyone's head. She blows up everyone's head. She blows up everyone's head. She blows up everyone's head. She blows up everybody's head. She blows up everybody's head. She blows up everybody's head. She blows up everybody's head. She blows up everybody's head. She blows up everybody's head. She blows up everybody's head. She blows up everybody's head. She blows up everybody's head. She blows up everybody's head. She blows up everybody's head. She blows up everybody's head. She blows up everybody's head. She blows up everybody's head. She blows up everybody's head. She blows up everybody's head. She blows up everybody's head.
00:36:10
Ryan
but Yeah. cup of be Yeah.
00:36:14
the_popcorn_podcast
She blows up everybody's head.
00:36:14
Ryan
ah I do wish she did something that like maybe like a little nosebleed to Homelander because that was always my question is ah can she kill Homelander with it?
00:36:15
the_popcorn_podcast
She blows up everybody that was and Maybe not. She didn't try it.
00:36:24
Ryan
yeah
00:36:24
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah, I feel you go behind say that would have been her chance, but ah family i tell from I can do something to you It was dope i when But I'm gonna tell it listen to me We're gonna change the world Vicki for our kids their kids the first super president and you're a gal
00:36:24
Ryan
they go by yeah i don't know who makes Or maybe just like give him a nosebleed just like scare them show like I can fuck you up too Yeah, your lasers don't hurt me, but I can kill you with my mind. Yeah
00:36:42
Ryan
thank you and um
00:36:45
the_popcorn_podcast
The handler continues with now shut up and listen shut shut the fuck up and listen our fates are connected now singers as good as dead and I'm the only fucking friend you got the train left the station gorgeous and you're on it and No, I was quoting.
00:36:47
Ryan
now shut shut
00:36:55
Ryan
Wow, did you take notes or are you on? like Okay and sweet You pull up is there like an iTunes lyrics thing on this or is that?
00:37:00
the_popcorn_podcast
That's why I said Homelander says but No, I need notes It's
00:37:06
Ryan
Oh cool. That's fun Good for you Thanks,
00:37:12
the_popcorn_podcast
a recap
00:37:13
Ryan
thanks buddy
00:37:15
the_popcorn_podcast
but I'm only using it.
00:37:15
Ryan
but i Yeah.
00:37:16
the_popcorn_podcast
I use that to read the actual one.
00:37:19
the_popcorn_podcast
But yeah, you just see her just stop down in her tracks. And I love when she yells to Homelander.
00:37:24
Ryan
i love did you think talk yeah i thought you can see like in that moment exactly yeah not
00:37:25
the_popcorn_podcast
She's like, did you think of that? And he just stops her saying like, yeah, I thought of that. Like you can see like in that moment, that's not how he that's not how he works. He's not sage. He's not very smart.
00:37:35
Ryan
and yeah and yeah yeah And then he he realizes after that that he's he's in the endgame now.
00:37:36
the_popcorn_podcast
And yeah, I'm a i'm a huge fan of that. they
00:37:41
Ryan
Like this is this is it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:37:43
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah, there's there's no turnaround now you've you've made your decision it has to be ah You have to kill singer you have to kill the president oh that's those seven yeah and then and and Ryan shows up.
00:37:43
Ryan
so yeah may yeah yeah yeah But before that we had the scene with him and Ryan after he finds the picture that Poacher gave him. And then he just throws a tantrum and destroys the entire room. and just ah rememberation Yeah, so smart so smart various No um But I do love that you can see in that scene, you know It's it's before that the scene he just talked about with Newman but the stress is getting to him like not that he wouldn't have done that anyways, but just How crazy he got and how much he was screaming and Ryan like he was he realizes he's in the endgame He realizes he's he's got to go now and the stress is totally getting to him No
00:38:03
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah, it's not the brightest fella I ah do you know it's
00:38:15
the_popcorn_podcast
stress like not that he
00:38:19
the_popcorn_podcast
how
00:38:23
the_popcorn_podcast
real Yeah, yeah he's got He hasn't got much patience left for any of this. But um again, I'm looking at episode scenes I'm trying to go through.
00:38:32
Ryan
but Again, looking at actually the scene that I'm talking about, we have the whole scene of Grace, Ryan, and Billy, which was a little bit of an attitude that I felt we were going to work out a lot better than we end up getting.
00:38:38
the_popcorn_podcast
ah We have the whole sequence with Grace, Ryan, and Billy, which was a little bit of a tense scene that I thought was going to work out a lot better than we end up getting. But I really like the scene.
00:38:48
Ryan
But I really like the scene.
00:38:49
the_popcorn_podcast
I like Butcher trying his best to be a good person and a good father figure for Ryan.
00:38:49
Ryan
I like what you're trying is best to be a good person and a good father figure for Ryan.
00:38:56
the_popcorn_podcast
And you finally see Grace.
00:38:56
Ryan
And he finds the grace.
00:38:57
the_popcorn_podcast
like Grace has been pretty much a
00:38:57
Ryan
Grace has been pretty much
00:39:00
the_popcorn_podcast
good person, quote unquote, for the show.
00:39:00
Ryan
good yeah she asked me
00:39:03
the_popcorn_podcast
Like, she has to make tough decisions, but she's trying to protect Ryan from the beginning.
00:39:04
Ryan
yeah Yes, she hates homelander I'm not home level she hates homeland, but she hates culture.
00:39:09
the_popcorn_podcast
yeah she it's really too But in this ah in this episode, I feel like you kind of get her true side.
00:39:11
Ryan
Yeah, that's what I was trying to say um but this such Yeah
00:39:16
the_popcorn_podcast
Like, even if she's good, she's still going to do what she thinks she needs to do.
00:39:19
Ryan
She is a good person.
00:39:19
the_popcorn_podcast
she
00:39:20
Ryan
I think she she's just in an incredibly tough position, being the director of the CIA. like She's got to make tough choices.
00:39:27
the_popcorn_podcast
she's got
00:39:28
Ryan
She's got to be a bad bitch now again. But she's she is a good person, I think.
00:39:30
the_popcorn_podcast
like good
00:39:32
Ryan
And you see her you know our whole backstory is that Lamblader killed her grandkids.
00:39:33
the_popcorn_podcast
who see her, you know, call back to rape that land player killed her or anything.
00:39:37
Ryan
So she has a soft spot for kids, and particularly Ryan, with him being you know not her actual nephew, but you know like family friend-wise.
00:39:37
the_popcorn_podcast
So she has a small pod for kids, particularly Ryan, with them being, not her actions. Yeah, like, yeah, she's watched over him for years, in effect.
00:39:46
Ryan
In effect, he basically is.
00:39:49
the_popcorn_podcast
See, she really does.
00:39:49
Ryan
See, she really does care about Ryan.
00:39:51
the_popcorn_podcast
I think she has.
00:39:51
Ryan
And I think she has definitely a soft side.
00:39:53
the_popcorn_podcast
So it's kind of sad seeing her go like that.
00:39:54
Ryan
So it was kind of sad seeing her go like that. No?
00:39:58
the_popcorn_podcast
No, no.
00:39:59
Ryan
You didn't think it was sad?
00:39:59
the_popcorn_podcast
No.
00:40:00
Ryan
No. She was trying to help the kid.
00:40:01
the_popcorn_podcast
She was not she was trying to send him to his gray you You think but like I love Billy playing Him
00:40:01
Ryan
No, she was. No, she was. No, she was.
00:40:06
Ryan
He can take home, man. No. I think if you... I don't know. You gave Ryan one good Rocky training montage? Oof.
00:40:15
the_popcorn_podcast
and Billy I think him and Billy might be able to do it together now
00:40:16
Ryan
Yeah, dude. Come on. you Maybe. Yeah, now.
00:40:20
the_popcorn_podcast
um I really liked how Billy's just playing Connect Four with him, trying to like keep him calm to bring stuff.
00:40:23
Ryan
But... Yeah. column grace
00:40:28
the_popcorn_podcast
And then Grace all of a sudden just throws everything out the window.
00:40:30
Ryan
Yeah.
00:40:30
the_popcorn_podcast
She's like, Homelander, rape your mother, and all these other things that are horrible.
00:40:32
Ryan
mother and all of these other things are horrible
00:40:36
the_popcorn_podcast
And finally, Ryan's starting to understand why he's actually there.
00:40:36
Ryan
andtic trees are understand Yeah, they weren't there he's trying to In Ryan's mind.
00:40:40
the_popcorn_podcast
They weren't there just to talk. In Ryan's mind, they're just trying to be which they are.
00:40:45
Ryan
They're just trying to use him which they are but there's more to it than that Like they are they are trying to use them But but they're not trying to use him like hey, we're gonna use you and then throw you out They're trying to use him because he's the only one in their mind right now that can possibly take home lander because he has the same powers and Um, he's the only one that can kind of make a dent even if, but in Ryan's mind, they're just trying to use them just to fight Homelander and then they'll kill him and they're going to kill all the suits, including him.
00:40:47
the_popcorn_podcast
But there's more to it than that. They're actually using it. But they're not trying to use it. We're going to use him. He's the He's the only one that can make it that easy. But in Ryan, they're just trying to eat them. Just by home, when your name will kill them. And we're going to kill all of us, including him.
00:41:15
Ryan
So it's, it's a tough decision.
00:41:15
the_popcorn_podcast
So it's the toughest thing.
00:41:16
Ryan
You know, I think, I think they made the right call.
00:41:17
the_popcorn_podcast
I think they made it all right.
00:41:18
Ryan
I don't think it was the right time, but.
00:41:19
the_popcorn_podcast
I won't think it was the right time.
00:41:20
Ryan
Mallory had a point like You can't play connect four with him for a week only I'm just gonna do some crazy shit We got to get this out and now, so I I don't think it was a bad decision I think it's just you know the way Ryan is the way his character is he's very Untrusting of anybody he flips sides so often yeah, no it is I mean, it's just he's been put in this terrible situation as a kid.
00:41:23
the_popcorn_podcast
You can't click that forward for a week. The home laner is going to be some crazy shit. We've got to get him out now. So I don't think it was as good, I think, because the way you're at it, the way he's very, he's very untrusted of anybody. I mean, it's a pretty fair reason.
00:41:43
Ryan
It's tough for him But yeah, i he lashes out kills Mallory. I was sad. I was sad to see her go. Yeah.
00:41:50
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah, and Yeah, and I mean, I like when he talks about that they're pretty much doing to him what they did to his father.
00:41:53
Ryan
ah pro much of anything and that's building yeah so was make sure bill and then yeah tri that we ah you won let them i don't No, I don't think so.
00:41:56
the_popcorn_podcast
And that's when you kind of see like, even Billy gets the thing like, he does care about Homelander because he is still his father as much as Homelander scares him probably. Like we saw when he freaked out over the picture of Billy. And then yeah, he tries to leave, Mallory won't let him leave. And I don't think he meant to yeah at first.
00:42:17
Ryan
No.
00:42:18
the_popcorn_podcast
But subconsciously, I think he did.
00:42:18
Ryan
but subcon
00:42:21
Ryan
Because when he goes to the ball in the figure, he does not kill or shoot.
00:42:21
the_popcorn_podcast
Cause when he goes up and walks up to her, he does not give a shit.
00:42:24
Ryan
Yeah, I mean, he doesn't.
00:42:24
the_popcorn_podcast
yeah i mean Like something clicked in his head.
00:42:26
Ryan
I think, yeah, like he doesn't know his own strength and he did it. He didn't mean to kill her. But I think you're right.
00:42:31
the_popcorn_podcast
i think
00:42:32
Ryan
When he walked out in solid, he kind of like, it was probably a hint at first of like, I felt bad, but then he realizes like, ah you know, I got to do what I got to do.
00:42:34
the_popcorn_podcast
probably first
00:42:38
the_popcorn_podcast
realize Yeah, like I don't think when he pushed her, I don't think he meant to kill her, but in his head he hit somewhere deep down they didn't acknowledge.
00:42:42
Ryan
When he pushed her, I don't even know, He knows how strong he is and he's already saying what happens.
00:42:47
the_popcorn_podcast
He knows how strong he is and he's already seen what happens before.
00:42:51
Ryan
Yeah, but he did paint a dude.
00:42:51
the_popcorn_podcast
the dude painted doing a building Yeah, that was Yeah
00:42:54
Ryan
Yeah, that was a weird street mural, but um Yeah, no, I I see I get I get your point I do think I don't think he fully grasps his own strength or at least doesn't know how to fully control it yet So I yeah, I don't think he meant to kill her I think he I think he realized the grace cared for him and he cared for her in a way um but yeah when he walks out and looks and he
00:42:59
the_popcorn_podcast
i see i get do think ah don't vision full strength or at least doesn't yeah so i
00:43:10
the_popcorn_podcast
you
00:43:15
the_popcorn_podcast
we
00:43:18
Ryan
He kind of has ah a hint of remorse, but then realizes like, I gotta, I gotta do my own thing.
00:43:18
the_popcorn_podcast
kind of hint
00:43:23
Ryan
I gotta, you know, protect myself.
00:43:25
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah, and then he looks back at butcher and Butcher lost all Care for soup at that point.
00:43:27
Ryan
Yeah. but
00:43:32
Ryan
yeah it was
00:43:32
the_popcorn_podcast
It was done realizing can save Ryan pretty much in the moon.
00:43:34
Ryan
ryan very
00:43:35
the_popcorn_podcast
I think Kinds everything um somebody yeah ah me mean Oh God I forgot about that
00:43:38
Ryan
yeah Yeah, it's over.
00:43:47
Ryan
We did skip over Ashley, oh god actually leaving the meeting. oh That is true, Ashley, yes yeah.
00:43:52
the_popcorn_podcast
Well, which actually they each kind of have their own scene. That scene was so funny.
00:43:57
Ryan
The main Ashley, murder bounty.
00:44:02
Ryan
The main Ashley yeah takes.
00:44:03
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah. She, she learns that they know that she's.
00:44:04
Ryan
you learn
00:44:07
Ryan
Well, she she figures they're going to figure out very soon that she is the leak. And she is going to be and at least maybe not that she's a leak, but at least she's going to be on that list yeah of people to kill.
00:44:13
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah. at least yeah
00:44:17
Ryan
So she goes back to Homelander's room and realizes how fucked up it is.
00:44:18
the_popcorn_podcast
like real
00:44:22
Ryan
And then she takes V. So I don't know what's going to happen.
00:44:24
the_popcorn_podcast
so <unk>t
00:44:26
Ryan
You see her head kind of start growing.
00:44:27
the_popcorn_podcast
here
00:44:28
Ryan
So maybe something bigger.
00:44:28
the_popcorn_podcast
maybe She's the thinker that Who's in the new Captain America Yeah, the guy from the original Edward Norton one the guy the scientist of anything killed.
00:44:30
Ryan
That's what I was thinking. Fucking the whole feeling. Which would be V. Is he? the fact of the original i Really? Yeah, he's back.
00:44:42
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah, he's the thinker Who's
00:44:44
Ryan
Jesus Christ. This movie's gonna suck.
00:44:48
the_popcorn_podcast
going to be atrocious It's
00:44:48
Ryan
yeah I don't um like that trailer really wasn't as bad as people were saying it. I don't think so.
00:44:53
the_popcorn_podcast
not
00:44:54
Ryan
But movies gonna be like a 60 at best.
00:44:54
the_popcorn_podcast
what is' gonna I Hope it is cuz I did like the idea of it being like a soldier and But seems that that they're gonna go they're gonna drop that in like the second act and it's big turn of severe movie But yeah, she takes it and you ah you don't really see anything come of that.
00:44:57
Ryan
who risk it like that idea so Yeah. but seems like theyre they're gonna feel during're a top Yeah. ye yes yo Yeah, you know Yeah, of course then based on start explaining ah
00:45:10
the_popcorn_podcast
You know, it's gonna come in the fifth season ah But then they start the soup start killing the workers.

Character Transformations and Power Dynamics

00:45:16
the_popcorn_podcast
I Love that firecrackers just was so sick from the medicine everything and when Billy homeland America sit further down best
00:45:16
Ryan
i love it i very The best was every time she coughed the look home lander gave her every fucking time it was so funny go shoot down All the way down yeah, so I guess is it from the medicine or is she somehow infected with the
00:45:26
the_popcorn_podcast
every fucking time And then we should be down once he's like, like is it somehow I thought about that.
00:45:39
Ryan
thought
00:45:39
the_popcorn_podcast
Is she infected by that?
00:45:40
Ryan
Like maybe just a little bit and there's like a slower acting version of it.
00:45:41
the_popcorn_podcast
maybe slow version of the the thing i mean Maybe it's killing him.
00:45:43
Ryan
Maybe somebody was able to slip it in something, slip it in the medicine somehow and that's going to get revealed. They're like some other disease. Yeah,
00:45:51
the_popcorn_podcast
But then the same time it could just be she like up the dose or something.
00:45:52
Ryan
yeah yeah it could. Cause we just mentioned last episode, like, I mean, we were joking around, but she's so scared.
00:45:55
the_popcorn_podcast
just mentioned um your joe so scar she's
00:46:00
Ryan
She's got up the dose now. Maybe that is getting her sick or maybe there's more to it.
00:46:01
the_popcorn_podcast
yeah
00:46:03
Ryan
So I don't know. It'll be, it'll be interesting to get revealed later on if, if there is anything or if it's just,
00:46:05
the_popcorn_podcast
be
00:46:08
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah, more stuff we're gonna figure out.
00:46:09
Ryan
yeah Or if it's just a gag for this season that leaves nowhere.
00:46:14
the_popcorn_podcast
i But yeah, then they start killing the workers that are on this list.
00:46:15
Ryan
but yeah you started feelinging the waterro that all these but
00:46:18
the_popcorn_podcast
And they had no idea what Ashley, head of the director of everything, Ashley, they had no idea what her name is.
00:46:18
Ryan
and they had no idea had
00:46:23
Ryan
no you were go
00:46:24
the_popcorn_podcast
Her last name, not a club.
00:46:25
Ryan
not
00:46:26
the_popcorn_podcast
So her assistant named Ashley gets fucked up because of that.
00:46:26
Ryan
so are exclusive gets
00:46:31
the_popcorn_podcast
And oh, the deep corners, the one guy's like, tell, tell on the sound the second best behind Homelander.
00:46:31
Ryan
and it'sicor so Yeah, tell me on the best second best.
00:46:38
the_popcorn_podcast
Of course. Are you lying to me? No, I don't care anyway. And then just punches up the dude's head in.
00:46:44
Ryan
Yeah.
00:46:44
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah, and Black Noir kills Ashley, the assistant, right?
00:46:46
Ryan
Mm hmm.
00:46:47
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah, because then he's like, murder boner.
00:46:48
Ryan
yeah
00:46:50
the_popcorn_podcast
Is that what it is, murder boner?
00:46:50
Ryan
Yeah.
00:46:52
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah.
00:46:52
Ryan
Yeah.
00:46:52
the_popcorn_podcast
And then he's like, no, other Ashlings.
00:46:55
Ryan
yeah
00:46:56
the_popcorn_podcast
Like, dude, dude.
00:46:58
Ryan
it I fucking love that little duo that we didn't even talk about the last episode when they get back from the fight We didn't even talk about that fight Good fight.
00:46:58
the_popcorn_podcast
I fucking love that little duo. No, we didn't talk about it. Oh, yeah, they fight. We need to talk about it. We need to fight.
00:47:07
Ryan
I love the narcolepsy joke because it is true.
00:47:07
the_popcorn_podcast
I love the narcolefino, because it is true.
00:47:09
Ryan
The actor actually has narcolepsy Yankee's got jazz Chisholm Great he'll do nothing We can't get Mason Miller anymore cuz he broke his fucking hand He punched a table.
00:47:09
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah, they put it into the thing. What? oh Yo Philly's you got to go out there and make something happen listen if you So get him it's always left hand Dumbass
00:47:24
Ryan
I don't want that kid on the team Just throwing hands I know he is already, but yeah, sorry. yeah Yeah, that was a good fight last, last episode too.
00:47:35
the_popcorn_podcast
yeah yeah a good fight Mother's no pulls out a fucking Gatling gun
00:47:40
Ryan
It's so good. But the way they're walking back and just go, dude.
00:47:41
the_popcorn_podcast
but
00:47:44
the_popcorn_podcast
here
00:47:44
Ryan
dude and Dude, as a guy, 100% got what they were talking about.
00:47:46
the_popcorn_podcast
and do as four percent Yeah, they were just talking about a train they couldn't believe the whole situation I Like when he started flying like noise like he can fucking fly pulls out the shotgun for all great fight scene a train beats the piss out of of The deep and then Annie finishes it
00:47:50
Ryan
You just get it. you know yeah You just understand it. It's like, dude, are you kidding me? A-Train is a bad guy? like How do we get our asses kicked? Yeah. You can fly? Fly? Yeah. that the shoping great It was fun. it's yeah
00:48:09
Ryan
yep But I do love this little ah budding bromance.
00:48:09
the_popcorn_podcast
to love
00:48:11
the_popcorn_podcast
I wouldn't mind to see it more of it.
00:48:11
Ryan
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00:48:13
the_popcorn_podcast
yeah it's great
00:48:13
Ryan
Yeah, it's a great duo it's it's super fun because it's a guy black noir is obviously dumb But also dumb in the way that he doesn't know how to be black noir yet And then the deep is just fucking stupid.
00:48:16
the_popcorn_podcast
god like you are but um yeah and then just so it's just so Black is also just an actor that they gave V to.
00:48:24
Ryan
So it's just so much fun to watch those Yeah So good Yeah
00:48:32
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah, but from there, should we get into the scene with the boys in and Newman?
00:48:34
Ryan
yeah
00:48:39
Ryan
I mean, if you want to get rid of that, we can do that.
00:48:39
the_popcorn_podcast
i mean if you want to get Cause then we still got it from there, we still ah stuff about sister Sage. And then we have but returning characters from earlier.
00:48:47
Ryan
attorney yeah do some work yeah yeah So Newman gets, gets a little bit of the web waiver treatment.
00:48:50
the_popcorn_podcast
yeah Do some work, get down to business. Yeah. Yes. new guess by But the worst part was is that she has that conversation with Huey.
00:49:00
Ryan
She gets fucking bifurcated.
00:49:05
Ryan
Yeah. we yeah
00:49:08
the_popcorn_podcast
They want to make a deal.
00:49:08
Ryan
want a
00:49:09
the_popcorn_podcast
Huey and her have been friends their entire lives. They think that, no, they've known each other since they were younger.
00:49:12
Ryan
Well, no, but I Don't think so.
00:49:16
the_popcorn_podcast
I thought they did.
00:49:17
Ryan
No just when they were working together like season two or three.
00:49:18
the_popcorn_podcast
Oh, some reason in my head that they've known each other for years.
00:49:20
Ryan
No, I don't think so Huey wasn't in the fucking Yeah Yeah oh work Yeah
00:49:22
the_popcorn_podcast
No, it wasn't a foster care kid. He had a parent. Well, a parent. They wouldn't have left him. Oh, they worked here. That does make sense.
00:49:31
Ryan
well
00:49:32
the_popcorn_podcast
Well, they've known each other. Huey does have a soft spot for Newman and same with Newman to Huey.
00:49:34
Ryan
we yeah they saw spot for each other
00:49:38
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah.
00:49:38
Ryan
Because that's another thing we forgot to mention the last time so they had a little meeting and Newman was like, no, I'm not working with you Then she comes crawling back yeah me
00:49:41
the_popcorn_podcast
new
00:49:46
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah, because Homeland pretty much tells her he's going to kill.
00:49:49
Ryan
yeah
00:49:49
the_popcorn_podcast
He's going to send a piece of her diary to her every year. Damn.
00:49:55
the_popcorn_podcast
But yeah, Butcher left the building at the rank of grains.
00:49:55
Ryan
yeah
00:49:58
Ryan
but
00:50:00
the_popcorn_podcast
Oh, and he's, as I said, Butcher's pretty much given up on helping any of the soups.
00:50:00
Ryan
oh
00:50:04
Ryan
He is on a mission now to just get rid of everyone.
00:50:05
the_popcorn_podcast
He's on a mission now to just get rid of everyone. and
00:50:08
Ryan
And now we all see like, that's not the side of his brain.
00:50:09
the_popcorn_podcast
Now we don't see his wife anymore. That's not the side of his brain that he's leaning with.
00:50:12
Ryan
We all see Joe.
00:50:13
the_popcorn_podcast
We only see Joe. I think that's all he sees now.
00:50:14
Ryan
I think that's all he's seeing, right?
00:50:16
the_popcorn_podcast
He's seeing red.
00:50:17
Ryan
Yeah.
00:50:17
the_popcorn_podcast
It's pretty much how I'm taking it.
00:50:18
Ryan
Do you think he took a V?
00:50:19
the_popcorn_podcast
No, I think that thing is V.
00:50:19
Ryan
No, I think that I think he's V.
00:50:21
the_popcorn_podcast
like it It releases V in the world.
00:50:21
Ryan
You think it's like, it it just brought him back?
00:50:24
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah.
00:50:24
Ryan
Yeah.
00:50:24
the_popcorn_podcast
Because you see when he shows up, we've seen the other season, his skin looks all wrinkled.
00:50:24
Ryan
Because you see we see that his skin looks all red. Yeah.
00:50:28
the_popcorn_podcast
He's got gray hairs.
00:50:29
Ryan
Gray hair, all over. And he's just back to me.
00:50:32
the_popcorn_podcast
Butcher shows up. My boy is back.
00:50:34
Ryan
boy you Yeah. I do want, cause I don't know.
00:50:36
the_popcorn_podcast
ah didn' want to
00:50:38
Ryan
I mean, mm says, you know, you took V.
00:50:38
the_popcorn_podcast
i mean kind
00:50:41
Ryan
So maybe he just popped a little dose just to like fully release it and fully control it.
00:50:41
the_popcorn_podcast
so very
00:50:45
the_popcorn_podcast
That's why I don't know if that thing releases some Vito moment Could say we can I can fix you all you gotta do that.
00:50:47
Ryan
I don't know if they can bring him back. like there's ah Yeah, he did, but I don't know.
00:50:52
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah
00:50:56
Ryan
I don't know. but
00:50:57
the_popcorn_podcast
but Yeah, but as they said, Victoria agrees to work with the boys to fight Homelander.
00:50:57
Ryan
But yeah, as I said, the Victoria 3 score was quite complex, so if you break start and you throw it down to the high five, you pretty much figure out what to plan is.
00:51:01
the_popcorn_podcast
So Huey brings her and her daughter down to their hideout to pretty much figure out what this plan is. And as they start to come to somewhat of an idea, and this whole time, Francie has the killing agent, the virus in that weapon.
00:51:06
Ryan
And as they start to become somewhat compatible, this whole time, Frankie has the killing agent, the vial, in the vial. And also, the butcher goes up, and as you said, it's fully healed, it's kind of like it's got no issues.
00:51:17
the_popcorn_podcast
And all of a sudden, Butcher shows up. And as we said, he's fully like healed, it seems like. He's got no issues. and he attacks her, and as Ryan said, she gets the, well, first of all, his power.
00:51:25
Ryan
its right
00:51:30
Ryan
but just been
00:51:30
the_popcorn_podcast
What the actual fuck?
00:51:31
Ryan
actual it's veno
00:51:33
the_popcorn_podcast
Just comes out of the fucking middle of his chest.
00:51:33
Ryan
come out of middle of his chest It's awesome three second is been yeah He knocks a daughter over he doesn't kill her but he throws it across the room The Victoria
00:51:36
the_popcorn_podcast
It was pretty sick. It is Venom, you are kinda right in that one. Did he hit the daughter? knockx Oh yeah, he knocks it like, yeah. Knocks the one security guy through a window, picks up the Victoria. and Just fucking rips her in head and then drops on the ground the noise Neither I did not think noon was dying.
00:51:52
Ryan
ris are handed tros Yeah, it's very sad like I did not see that coming at all. guy Yeah ever i thought she be like Yeah, matthew fan
00:52:00
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah ever I thought she was gonna be like a final piece there like kind of a Matthew McFadden succession Like just by luck guess what they need what they want, you know, they don't deserve it Yeah, ah that's what I thought I was wrong
00:52:05
Ryan
like just five long is he able to just stick around be there at the important things?
00:52:14
the_popcorn_podcast
ah
00:52:14
Ryan
Yeah Yeah
00:52:16
the_popcorn_podcast
And yeah, this is the first time we get to see his powers.
00:52:19
Ryan
and then
00:52:19
the_popcorn_podcast
And then Frenchie threatens to kill him with the virus and he's pretty fine with that.
00:52:19
Ryan
and
00:52:24
the_popcorn_podcast
He puts it there and he doesn't do it.
00:52:24
Ryan
but's there do
00:52:27
the_popcorn_podcast
And yeah, and then in true butcher fashion, walking out to her, he says, you're welcome.
00:52:27
Ryan
yeah true action and yeah
00:52:33
the_popcorn_podcast
And then walks out.
00:52:34
Ryan
Now I'm just thinking about succession I'm the eldest boy my god God what a good fucking show um
00:52:37
the_popcorn_podcast
Oh my God. like We hope to be hit when we crash the car. I didn't do that. I made that up. You made that up! That's even worse!
00:52:50
Ryan
Yeah. But then, uh, after that, all that stuff happens with butcher and then we cut back to Homeland or watching everything play out.
00:52:55
the_popcorn_podcast
His plan
00:52:57
Ryan
Um, Newman's dead. The news is broke, but that yeah, his plan failed.
00:52:59
the_popcorn_podcast
has failed. Yeah, his plan failed.
00:53:03
Ryan
I forget his name already.
00:53:03
the_popcorn_podcast
I forget his name. There you go.
00:53:05
Ryan
Again, Dakota Bob, right?
00:53:07
the_popcorn_podcast
It's not Wild Bill.
00:53:07
Ryan
It's not wild Bill singer singer.
00:53:08
the_popcorn_podcast
It's not Wild Bill. We were definitely wrong on that one.
00:53:11
Ryan
That's the name I'm looking for.
00:53:13
the_popcorn_podcast
He's still alive.
00:53:13
Ryan
He's still alive. He's still kicking the, um, shape shifter failed.
00:53:14
the_popcorn_podcast
kicking yeah He's become president.
00:53:17
Ryan
He has become president, but then Sage walks in.
00:53:19
the_popcorn_podcast
and Just what he is, the smartest person alive.
00:53:20
Ryan
Bum, bum, bum. Guess what? She is the smartest person alive and her plan.
00:53:24
the_popcorn_podcast
And at her point, it worked out.
00:53:26
Ryan
It worked out. It worked out.
00:53:27
the_popcorn_podcast
It worked out.
00:53:28
Ryan
I don't know who saw that coming.
00:53:28
the_popcorn_podcast
I don't know who saw that comment. No one.
00:53:29
Ryan
No. Yeah. You know who saw that coming?
00:53:30
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah. Who saw that comment? Say, you know what?
00:53:31
Ryan
Sage. You know why?
00:53:32
the_popcorn_podcast
Smart for the life.
00:53:33
Ryan
Smartest person alive.
00:53:33
the_popcorn_podcast
Smart for the life. You said this is what you wanted to see from her.
00:53:36
Ryan
Yeah, I understand that. It's still, I just, I guess I just don't like the smartest people alive characters.
00:53:38
the_popcorn_podcast
I guess felt like the smartest people alive character. just
00:53:42
Ryan
They're just so boring.
00:53:43
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah, cuz there's not much you can do there's nothing you shoot them they die well not in the brain but And who is crying this entire scene And
00:53:43
Ryan
Like it's, there's nothing you can do. like yeah um but yeah it's so fucking good but they they um they get it out there they had footage of singer saying that he wanted to kill newman so they put that out there singer and gets arrested and then the uh the speaker of the house whose name i forget Becomes president and Homelander is, well, Homelander's in charge now because, yeah, he listens to Homelander no matter what.
00:54:08
the_popcorn_podcast
toneman well
00:54:13
the_popcorn_podcast
Calhoun.
00:54:15
Ryan
Um, so it's a great cliffhanger for season five.
00:54:17
the_popcorn_podcast
so great
00:54:19
Ryan
I mean, it's terrifying.
00:54:21
the_popcorn_podcast
here
00:54:21
Ryan
Homelander's effectively the president now because cal Calhoun, is that his name? Yeah.
00:54:26
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah, speak of the house, Calhoun.
00:54:27
Ryan
He's not going to not listen to Homelander. no he's still right Yeah.
00:54:29
the_popcorn_podcast
No, you see it right then there, that they're in um they're going into a martial law, yeah and that for those who don't know, martial law is pretty much that the military is going to take over.
00:54:33
Ryan
Yeah.
00:54:38
the_popcorn_podcast
yeah They will lead everything.
00:54:38
Ryan
Yeah, it's a military state.
00:54:40
the_popcorn_podcast
And it's not good. You don't ever want to go into martial law. It is a bad, bad thing. As much as it seems like, oh, our military is going to protect us.
00:54:45
Ryan
Yeah, it's not the best.
00:54:48
Ryan
No.
00:54:48
the_popcorn_podcast
A lot of bad things happen in martial law.
00:54:48
Ryan
and Yeah, and they, uh, they activate all the soups, you know, and take in, uh, yeah, which is
00:54:54
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah, they they promised send them on a mission to stop the star lighters stop the boys stop anyone's going against them Yeah,
00:55:03
Ryan
I mean, it's great for us, the audience, it can be a lot of fun, but Jesus, that's fucking bad.
00:55:06
the_popcorn_podcast
yeah I mean it it jumps there um Is that sage which is getting really she's like she's like just remember and listen to me.
00:55:10
Ryan
yeah like
00:55:13
the_popcorn_podcast
I am this one person live She's like and then what was they do have it here, right?
00:55:18
Ryan
ah got to line
00:55:18
the_popcorn_podcast
ah They have the line where it's like, hell yeah, Blondie.
00:55:19
Ryan
have the line ah yeah oni
00:55:22
the_popcorn_podcast
ah Hell's yeah, Blondie Ambition, buckle up for phase two.
00:55:23
Ryan
know on the and
00:55:26
Ryan
Sweet.
00:55:27
the_popcorn_podcast
That's a fucking great line.
00:55:28
Ryan
and rain she just said to oh my
00:55:29
the_popcorn_podcast
And she just said to Homeland and Homeland was like, okay. And he wipes his tears and he goes back on the phone, leading to Calhoun now being sworn in to be the president of Homeland State.
00:55:32
Ryan
he like got the we got room out and yeah thanks so And then we get the scene of the boys leaving.
00:55:39
the_popcorn_podcast
And Homeland pretty much like shoves him aside. And he's like, shut the fuck up, this is my country now. And then we get to see him voice me, which I guess, he has smoke there.
00:55:47
Ryan
I guess, I mean, that's totally fair. Like they were all going to stay and fight, but now that it's hopeless.
00:55:48
the_popcorn_podcast
they were always painful by not it's they can't win
00:55:52
Ryan
So they're all just, yeah.
00:55:54
the_popcorn_podcast
well the one piece they had um They're about having another piece back, baby they dont No, he's gonna be with them is not yeah he is well yeah he's i Because they're not they're definitely not going to the comic yes Yes
00:55:54
Ryan
one piece they had got ripped in half. Yeah. Well, they don't have the piece. He's not going to be with them. No, the the ending is going more towards like the ending of the comic. I haven't read the comic before. I know how to.
00:56:11
Ryan
It's not going to be the exact thing. They're leading more towards like what happens with what you're talking about.
00:56:18
the_popcorn_podcast
so Because they've already pretty much cut off the idea of doing the actual way how it's gonna end.
00:56:24
Ryan
Yeah, I mean, it's it's been different the entire time.
00:56:24
the_popcorn_podcast
and been I would have loved though for that to have been the would've been wild to do that.
00:56:27
Ryan
I don't know. I don't know that. Yeah. Yeah.
00:56:30
the_popcorn_podcast
And you couldn't have had all the friendship stuff with Black Noir and all that. So I guess that's why they don't do it.
00:56:34
Ryan
I mean, like, in the comics, it's always different.
00:56:34
the_popcorn_podcast
i mean
00:56:37
Ryan
Like, they had two drivers in the car at the time.
00:56:38
the_popcorn_podcast
Oh, we also forgot to mention ah all every superhero that they've now militarized.
00:56:40
Ryan
All of them.
00:56:45
Ryan
Yes.
00:56:46
the_popcorn_podcast
They report directly to Homelander. There is no one stopping Homelander. Homelander is fully in charge of how they handle this situation.
00:56:51
Ryan
Yeah. um yeah So, um, so we go through and see Frenchy, Camiko are leaving.
00:56:54
the_popcorn_podcast
So, but yeah, they'll see French meat from the beginning to go on the path to the end of the trip.
00:56:58
Ryan
They're going to the docs. They're going to get on a ship. And then, uh, we get, what is it?
00:57:01
the_popcorn_podcast
And then I would get, what was it?
00:57:02
Ryan
Emma. And, uh, I forget the guy's name, Sam and Kate.
00:57:04
the_popcorn_podcast
And... Sam and Kate. Sam, hey, that's what it is.
00:57:07
Ryan
That's what it is. Emma's the tiny one. Um, yeah, yeah, she was good.
00:57:10
the_popcorn_podcast
Oh yeah, I forgot about that. I miss her. Yeah, she did.
00:57:13
Ryan
Uh, so Sam and Kate from Gen V fucking it.
00:57:13
the_popcorn_podcast
Sam and Kate from
00:57:17
the_popcorn_podcast
Damn it. I was so mad at that scene. It did give us my favorite scene of the season though yeah Screaming dude, soon as it broke my heart.
00:57:20
Ryan
Don't.
00:57:23
Ryan
Yeah, Kimiko screaming. Yeah. It's fucking sad.
00:57:27
the_popcorn_podcast
I was like fuck he can totally You know, she had no idea she was gonna speak over She didn't know until they were started filming that scene.
00:57:28
Ryan
She can totally take him though.
00:57:32
Ryan
Oh, really? she didn't know so
00:57:35
the_popcorn_podcast
He didn't give her a script or anything.
00:57:35
Ryan
that's correct
00:57:37
the_popcorn_podcast
He didn't want her to know
00:57:37
Ryan
yeah That's cool.
00:57:39
the_popcorn_podcast
Oh, we also forget that the scariest pri scene is Homelander looking dead down lens says I'm coming for you, which then leads us into the boys leaving and they're all going to their own ways.
00:57:42
Ryan
Yeah. yes as i'm coming
00:57:48
the_popcorn_podcast
And soon as they all split, I was like, this is not good.
00:57:50
Ryan
as they all not ship mus go Yeah, you got nirvana playing the whole time It's terrible but um Fuck don't hurt Frenchy man.
00:57:53
the_popcorn_podcast
They should mothers know by himself. Never a good sign in any show gets never a good sign.
00:58:05
the_popcorn_podcast
so you friend man They took all the non suits.
00:58:07
Ryan
I know I know I know
00:58:08
the_popcorn_podcast
and Because I think they're gonna make them soups.
00:58:11
Ryan
But I, ooh, maybe, probably not, but yeah, they're going to just fuck them up.
00:58:12
the_popcorn_podcast
No, they're gonna put them in the internment camps. It's gonna be much worse.
00:58:15
Ryan
before yeah so Well, you don't know what they're going to do with Frenchie because she's on, he's under the mind control now.
00:58:15
the_popcorn_podcast
I would rather just be turned to a shitty superpower. but
00:58:21
Ryan
So they might try to use him against the voice.
00:58:22
the_popcorn_podcast
Well, I didn't know they were just doing that to like, get them away.
00:58:25
Ryan
yeah
00:58:26
the_popcorn_podcast
Like arresting them.
00:58:26
Ryan
They can probably, they could probably handle him. He's just a dude. They have superpowers and I don't think she's going to just let me on.
00:58:32
the_popcorn_podcast
Oh, see we see love sausage appear.
00:58:35
Ryan
Yeah.
00:58:35
the_popcorn_podcast
yeah It's uh...
00:58:35
Ryan
I was pumped to see love sausage.
00:58:37
the_popcorn_podcast
The one dude that Emma hates more than anything gets fucking knocked out by the dude's cock.
00:58:37
Ryan
the one
00:58:40
Ryan
and fucking knock yep
00:58:43
the_popcorn_podcast
Great.
00:58:43
Ryan
perfect And then we see Starlight finally gets her powers back, which is, you know, forget yeah, so magical.
00:58:47
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah, it's because she figured out who she truly is again. And it's nice.
00:58:53
Ryan
But then we get the lady, I don't know, basically Magneto Powers from the, from the one episode.
00:58:56
the_popcorn_podcast
I thought it's a dude.
00:59:00
Ryan
I don't know. I thought it was a girl.
00:59:01
the_popcorn_podcast
The Buzzkite Kid.
00:59:02
Ryan
Yeah.
00:59:02
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah, it's a it's a guy.
00:59:03
Ryan
Is it?
00:59:04
the_popcorn_podcast
Jim V. um
00:59:04
Ryan
I'm not going to say it. Uh, well, no, it's not from Gen V.
00:59:06
the_popcorn_podcast
no
00:59:07
Ryan
She was in the whatever they were in the, um, the episode where they break into like the, the soup mental institution with lamp lighter.
00:59:08
the_popcorn_podcast
whatever they were yeah so
00:59:15
the_popcorn_podcast
I thought they were and he was in like the underground like test site Yeah,
00:59:18
Ryan
I don't think so. I think it's from that episode, which is why I was like, Oh shit.
00:59:21
the_popcorn_podcast
ah
00:59:22
Ryan
They're bringing everybody.
00:59:22
the_popcorn_podcast
yeah no, this is I have a feeling this is I mean it's gonna combine everything that we've learned yeah for this because whatever happens in Gen V which I'm super excited now to know where this is all gonna So his homework are gonna be like the villain of Gen V now
00:59:22
Ryan
Yeah. there
00:59:26
Ryan
yeah Yeah. Yeah. had and the umcuer excited
00:59:33
Ryan
home So maybe, or maybe, maybe Homelander has like, gent maybe, maybe it'll be like firecracker or you are in deep or something like that.
00:59:36
the_popcorn_podcast
yeah
00:59:39
the_popcorn_podcast
they'd be like like younger maybe
00:59:43
Ryan
Maybe he has like generals or something.
00:59:45
the_popcorn_podcast
um sorry and i mean Oh And then of course the post-cred scene which yeah teachers Untouched oh So butcher and star I can't didn't think of that.
00:59:46
Ryan
Yeah. I mean, it should be fun, but, um, oh yeah, they capture Huey. They get coaches driving away, you know, okay. On the world. what on
00:59:58
the_popcorn_podcast
That's gonna be the two that probably hate each other Yeah, I got the ones that work together
00:59:59
Ryan
so Yeah, yeah cuz Star Lake flies away fully

Announcement of 1950s Prequel Series

01:00:05
Ryan
flies away life Yeah and <unk> on She has not yeah Yeah, so ah yeah, there's that and then there's the post credit scene where they pull out soldier boy again So pumped to see him and how Yep with soldier boy in um front Who read who?
01:00:05
the_popcorn_podcast
Like Superman flies like I ain't seen that she's ever done that before. Oh, yeah, cause she was learning how to fly this season so yeah so And now we know we're getting a prequel series, which I did you see him read it
01:00:25
Ryan
does not
01:00:25
the_popcorn_podcast
Jensen Ackles, like announced it.
01:00:26
Ryan
now ah really you' know like
01:00:27
the_popcorn_podcast
He had no idea it was happening.
01:00:28
Ryan
really
01:00:29
the_popcorn_podcast
And he's sitting there at Comic Con, like at Hall 8, he's like, he's like, there so I was told to read ah out the next intro to the Vought universe.
01:00:29
Ryan
and he said comic account at all does spell i still intro you
01:00:36
the_popcorn_podcast
This would be a series set in the early 1950s of New York as Vought and the Seven have their slow rise to fame.
01:00:36
Ryan
this will be a early newer has and so
01:00:42
the_popcorn_podcast
He's like the two leads, Jensen Ackles, oh shit, he's like, I'm in it.
01:00:43
Ryan
the coolie chance Oh, really? Yeah. and he's like
01:00:46
the_popcorn_podcast
And he's like, and my co-star is here to talk about it.
01:00:48
Ryan
and my first are
01:00:49
the_popcorn_podcast
And he looks on his store and the crowd went nothing. He's like, I had no idea this was happening.
01:00:53
Ryan
it awesome You should have read the fine print that said if you read this you sign on dickhead fuck you i'm explaining love ah yeah it yeah Magical it's gonna be great It's gonna be fun yeah so in boys
01:00:57
the_popcorn_podcast
yeah um i'm I'm excited. I love stormfront horrible human being great character though and her and soldier boy leading the 1950s Jesus that is going to get bad fast, but yeah that ends up that ends the season of the boys.

Season 5 Speculations and Future Reviews

01:01:20
the_popcorn_podcast
And as I said, we just went through that final 15 minutes, had so much going on.
01:01:20
Ryan
As I said
01:01:21
Ryan
do so much Yeah so many categoris fish Yeah,
01:01:24
the_popcorn_podcast
So many characters get shown again. we I mean, there have been martial law. Homelander's now pretty much in charge of everything.
01:01:30
Ryan
hard matter what the present yeah it's It's gonna be big the season five is gonna be big Gen V I here's my thing with Gen V if Gen V takes place after this it'll be big but my and Like they haven't said anything about it, but I wonder if Gen V is gonna take place like during season four no
01:01:31
the_popcorn_podcast
No matter what the president says, he's in charge. The boys are broken apart. by genvi my thing and b takes my like damn ah wonder No, they said this leads into season two yeah and then yeah Oh ah The way that the way that I took leading into is that this ends that starts that ends final season I'm assuming Gen V characters are showing up in the final season.
01:01:51
Ryan
and an end Does it? yeah Is it taking place after? Or is it going to be like during this and then the end at the same time? And then they come together and see the prize.
01:02:03
Ryan
Yeah. I mean, that's how I took it too. but i character Yeah, no, absolutely.
01:02:08
the_popcorn_podcast
yeah I Think they did refer to it as the boys finale's Gen V season story To be cool, I mean
01:02:09
Ryan
I totally think so as well. but Yeah. I don't know.
01:02:16
Ryan
Yeah. it go
01:02:17
the_popcorn_podcast
It's gonna be like the end game for this world.
01:02:19
Ryan
Yeah. like Yeah.
01:02:20
the_popcorn_podcast
Like everyone's on the table. Everyone's gonna be there. It's Will Farrar gonna show up.
01:02:24
Ryan
fair I hope he'll finish.
01:02:25
the_popcorn_podcast
Give a great speech to A-Train.
01:02:27
Ryan
Oh yeah, I hope A-Train shows up again.
01:02:29
the_popcorn_podcast
Maybe he's gonna show up.
01:02:30
Ryan
Obviously Maeve has to show up again. Maeve's gonna gonna Maeve's gonna show up again.
01:02:33
the_popcorn_podcast
A-Train's not gone. No, A-Train's gonna fight. It's gonna be a battle.
01:02:40
the_popcorn_podcast
chair But yeah.
01:02:41
Ryan
very fun yeah
01:02:43
the_popcorn_podcast
mean I love the episode, I love the final two as I just said.
01:02:44
Ryan
love the Maeve's gonna show up again.
01:02:47
the_popcorn_podcast
It's got me so hyped for whatever we're gonna see. It is sad that the one active enemy Chase didn't pass away and they did say how they're gonna handle that is he'll die off screen in the season or I guess before the season so I guess they'll use this kind of ending to explain what happens.
01:02:50
Ryan
Maeve's gonna show
01:02:53
Ryan
so this out
01:02:57
Ryan
yeah
01:03:00
Ryan
ah school
01:03:03
the_popcorn_podcast
what will be Yeah they tested them on and that kills him.
01:03:03
Ryan
Or it'll be like a test thing that they were yeah yeah yeah So
01:03:08
the_popcorn_podcast
But ah yeah, I mean there's still even with that sadly there will still be So much going on and so I hope season two can hold up to season one because then season one was really good as much as you don't love the ending um But yeah, I'm i'm super excited.
01:03:13
Ryan
so hope and what and seasonal once be like
01:03:21
Ryan
Yeah, the ending was just too short.
01:03:22
the_popcorn_podcast
It's just a short episode We probably should have been the longest Unless it's a game of thrones because I can deal with the game of thrones not being the longest Because then it's always the pen ultimates the big thing.
01:03:23
Ryan
It was just yeah, it was the shortest episode get the last episode should never be the shortest episode that's a game with do Yeah, okay so Yeah, like the big final battle because it's not the point in Game of Thrones Yeah Yeah
01:03:37
the_popcorn_podcast
Yeah it was always whatever happens. Yeah. There's other ways to fight a war. Um, but yeah, that's all I have to say.
01:03:44
Ryan
That's all I mean, the the boys and just to finish that, the boys and Gen V is about the battles.
01:03:45
the_popcorn_podcast
Do you have anything you want to add about the boys?
01:03:51
Ryan
It's not politicking and shit.
01:03:51
the_popcorn_podcast
it's not That is true. Well, there is politicking.
01:03:55
Ryan
Well, yeah, there is, but that's not what we want.
01:03:55
the_popcorn_podcast
Definitely. too it Well, not anymore. Now it's martial law. This is a war. Yeah.
01:03:59
Ryan
Yeah. Yeah. This is going to be fun. It's going to be a lot of fun.
01:04:02
the_popcorn_podcast
Well,
01:04:03
Ryan
I'm excited to see the rest of it.
01:04:03
the_popcorn_podcast
not what i live in this well
01:04:06
Ryan
well
01:04:06
the_popcorn_podcast
Before we get going, Brian, what is your recommendation of the week to everyone?
01:04:06
Ryan
who you young ryan was correct um My recommendation of the week is going to be the bear season three.
01:04:12
the_popcorn_podcast
My recommendation of the week is going to be Deadpool 1.
01:04:14
Ryan
I thought you hated that movie.
01:04:16
the_popcorn_podcast
What the fuck? Love Deadpool. Huge fan Deadpool.
01:04:21
Ryan
Your dad hates that movie.
01:04:23
the_popcorn_podcast
That does not like Deadpool.
01:04:24
Ryan
Yeah, that's cool.
01:04:25
the_popcorn_podcast
But yeah, thank you guys so much for tuning in.
01:04:25
Ryan
yeah thank you so in
01:04:26
the_popcorn_podcast
Next episode we're going to be dropping is Deadpool and Wolverine, where as the original title was Deadpool and Friends, which people hate so much that they changed it.
01:04:27
Ryan
be talking is No, just Deadpool and friend.
01:04:34
the_popcorn_podcast
Is a friend.
01:04:34
Ryan
friend Yeah.
01:04:35
the_popcorn_podcast
Oh, friends would have been cool. I would I would have been down for Deadpool and friends.
01:04:37
Ryan
Deadpool and friend.
01:04:40
the_popcorn_podcast
Friend.
01:04:41
Ryan
It's so funny.
01:04:41
the_popcorn_podcast
so um But yeah, and then after that, of course, we'll have two House of Dragon reviews.
01:04:44
Ryan
yeah two we have more of these right
01:04:46
the_popcorn_podcast
We'll have more reviews coming up. Ryan's going to do a solo review with the Bear. I'll be talking Cobra Kai and no you're doing it.
01:04:49
Ryan
lookka Don't count on that I'm gonna try to do it.
01:04:52
the_popcorn_podcast
There's no fucking way you're going to just do it at night one night.
01:04:54
Ryan
I want to do it. I'm gonna do it
01:04:59
the_popcorn_podcast
Okay, Ryan agreed to do it.
01:04:59
Ryan
okay
01:05:00
the_popcorn_podcast
So thank you guys so much for tuning in and we will be back to talk to you probably the day after this one really.
01:05:00
Ryan
so ah yes and we
01:05:05
the_popcorn_podcast
So tomorrow, Ryan. Okay.