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Draymond Green's 3rd Strike
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Transcript
Introduction and Last Night's Fight
00:00:23
Speaker
What up? What up? What up? It is friends versus friends here, man. Yo, it's your host, JT. I got KB right here to the right of me. What's good? What's good with you? And we got Stat in the Bahamas somewhere. You know, he be out in these islands just chilling, doing what he be doing. Working with Dr. Doom. Hey, yo, Stat, you good? You hear me?
00:00:44
Speaker
Yeah, we almost got your assignment yet again. Hey, hey, it's all well, it's all well, though, it's all well, though. Before we step into anything, basketball, yo, that fight last night was wild. That fight last night was wild. Wish I knew. Yeah, I was at work. They even called me into work at five o'clock. I missed almost everything by the time I got home with fourth round.
00:01:11
Speaker
That joke was crazy. That joke, it was, it was good. Imagine if like everybody was kind of squaring up like that in NBA. Cause this is, I feel like this season, there's been some good energy in there as like, no, no way through. Hands, hands. Yeah. Besides Draymond. One dude needs it. One dude needs his name is Dylan Brooks.
Dylan Brooks: The New Rodman?
00:01:30
Speaker
Ayo, Dylan's been wiling. Somebody needs to smack him. He's leaning into his role. Yo, he is. He's being into his. He thinks that he's being like Dennis Rodman, but he's really being like that little brother that you punch in the chest. He's very vocal. He's playing the role very well. He's like the...
00:01:51
Speaker
Like, the villain character is just like, oh, he's leading to being the bad guy? Like, he's really doing it. Like, he's really the bad guy here. He's a geek. And everybody's been talking about that. He's like, yo, he called Bron. Oh, he's like, I can't even respect him, yo. I'm like, yo, you wild. And what happened? 25 points for Bron. And they won. He put in work. The first quarter last night for that game was like, it was like 9 to 35. I was like,
00:02:19
Speaker
Yeah. Brian took that first. Keep talking. Yeah. Well, it was 80 on the AT at like 18 points already. I was like, yeah, he's working. He's working. He's working on this squad. It was good. It was a good game for once. He wasn't hurt. Yeah, for once. Yeah, I would say that. Don't say it.
00:02:37
Speaker
Right. And man, you walk up the stairs the wrong way, just as you said that. Yeah. But the matchups have been great, man. This first round has been really interesting. Like, I don't know. Like, this is the most I've probably was hype about Brian getting there, you know, actually pushing through. So I'm like, yeah, he has to, you know. So it's been really good. Oh, Adam, how you feel about that? That little sweet Philly did you surprised?
00:03:05
Speaker
Yo, I was watching the next game and they were winning. Took a nap. Next thing I see Brooklyn is screwing up. I was like, all right, whatever now. This is whatever. But the sad thing about it is, I send it away. And Bead is out. They don't know when he's coming back. Doc said it. He said, I don't know when he's going to be ready. That spring knee messed him up.
00:03:28
Speaker
That don't sound good, bruh. That don't sound good. But he gonna have, they got that extra time with that 4-0. That kind of helps him out though. But some rest, you know what I'm saying? I think he gonna push through.
Injury Report: Joel Embiid's Impact
00:03:38
Speaker
I think he should push through. He's not.
00:03:40
Speaker
He ain't soft. I'm not saying any of the players out there are soft that don't play through stuff because they do, but I think he's just like, nah, I can't really, like he really is that team. He's not going to be like- He probably just can't go for real. And then considering- He just got rejected on game three. Yeah, it was wild. Look at the ejections, like everybody's swinging, legs are just hitting, everybody's nuts, like- It's competitive. Hey, yo, Dylan Brooks fact. I mean, oh, dang. He tapped bro in the leg. Ball tap. Yeah.
00:04:09
Speaker
I told you he's annoying, he's your little brother that you punched in the chest. I might punch him in the airport, like in the chest. Yeah, he's like picking, he's poking the bear. Everybody said that, that was like he's poking the bear. Which is stupid.
00:04:26
Speaker
I know we talk, you know what, I gotta say this first. We talk heavily on the Knicks, we are Knicks fans. I'm tired of hearing everybody say, yo man, they just have, yes, we are Knicks fans. We gonna talk about the Knicks again today. So, you know, I'm sorry. But yeah, we got that W in the garden. That was respect, yo, that was coming.
00:04:46
Speaker
I honestly thought Mitch was going to have one of those, like, nights, like, yo, this is my second
Knicks vs Cavs Showdown
00:04:50
Speaker
home court. It don't even matter. Moms is in the stands. Whole family was good. It wasn't really like that. I mean, he still got off, but we shut him down. I think shutting down Garland really helped out. Everybody played a role. Even RJ played a role. And then my boy, the legend, Dee Rose, had this standing ovation. You know, that's why I had to bring it out. I was like, yeah, that's how you know we work. We're Rose getting the game. I was like, yeah, we work. We love Dee Rose. We love Dee Rose.
00:05:16
Speaker
Oh, of course. The addition of D-rolls to this team has been one of my favorite things the last, like, five years. Yeah, highly respected. Of course, in Chicago, like, everybody even says, yo, like, he lived a dream as a young bull in Chicago playing hoop. So, yeah, of course. You know what I'm saying? Like, of course. Should have been a Hall of Famer. Yeah. I think he will be. He should be. I mean, he said he's retiring. He's retiring to Nick. I know his jersey may not be in our rafters, but, hey, like, we respect him. We respect him, no matter what.
00:05:46
Speaker
Um, what other games were you kind of hyped for? Yo, is, um, is Giannis out? Or is he still out? I don't think they still didn't pull that through. I was shocked with not shocked. I thought they were going to still come back with that energy like they did on game one when he kind of left, but
00:06:05
Speaker
You know, it's tough because Tyler Hero's out too. So it's kind of tough what they're working with right now. No, I like I like watching. You said Jimmy. Jimmy got hurt last night. Now, well, I like watching Steph and Fox. Fox was talking about trying to chase him around. Oh, yeah. Even he has trouble doing it. Fox is like an NFL corner. It's crazy. He has to follow that dude around.
00:06:35
Speaker
and they get buckets, and they drop 30. He has to. He has to drop 30. 30 or more. It must be so crazy, yo. Because, you know, you got to play a whole two-way game and a whole series against this dude, or you're going to lose. Like, I would hate that assignment. Yeah. You know how I play defense. I'm not going out here.
00:06:54
Speaker
Drive I'll get in the way like I'm not doing it. That's why Marcus be getting off. Yeah Because he could shoot. Yeah, he's gonna shoot the markets be slashing too. Yeah What'd you about to say stat? That's why he's clutch player of the year Yeah, everybody was debating if he should get that but I think he should I think yeah over he's over Jimmy and tomorrow. Oh
00:07:23
Speaker
I think so. I think so. Why not? Because one, if we go on about how they do like awards now, the hypeness that like you're not saying they have a Cinderella story, but, you know, that's the Cinderella team. Like nobody expected him. And then look at what he's put on, like he's put on the show. You feel me? Like he's put on a show for that squad. Like he is the front runner. He's doing it. He's had clutch moments and he's a guy. I think so, man. I was around the team. You said who?
00:07:52
Speaker
I would have gave it to Jimmy. I like Jimmy. You know, I respect
Warriors vs Kings: Playoff Analysis
00:07:56
Speaker
Jimmy. Jimmy kind of has like that D way game is the same way he used to play and everything. And I respect that. But Jimmy's definitely clutch. I mean, I'm not saying taking away anything. He's definitely his clutch. But you say you would give it to Jimmy though.
00:08:10
Speaker
all the time. Okay. Okay. Okay. How do you feel about this match ups that the Kings and the Warriors like I feel like it's just a home court battle because the Warriors are kind of, they were terrible at away games all season. So what do you think of the outcome of that? Or like, how do you feel like the games, the series has been playing out? I think the Warriors know they got to win game four tonight to be tied to two. If not, it ain't looking good.
00:08:40
Speaker
Nah, it's not. This is when it helps that everything's so wide open. Because if the Lakers take their time winning their series, you know, like the Warriors are, I don't want to say struggling, but they're not blowing through people like they used to. Which is cool for the game. We want that. But just looking at their situation,
00:09:06
Speaker
It's going to be way more competitive. They need the dogs to come out in this playoff run.
00:09:15
Speaker
But like how you said, like you're talking about Steph running around. I think the whole Kings is like uppaced in the Warriors right now. We've known the Warriors that move like that. They don't move like that. They're obviously the players are getting older. We've been seeing them in their dynasty for a while. So they're getting older. They were trying to have that young core come up so they can still keep up with the NBA paste.
Kawhi Leonard: Performance and Absence
00:09:39
Speaker
uh some of those players are there some of them are not playing you know what i'm saying are not there right now um but i think that's really taking it away it's they're running with the kings and the kings are having full control like how super young you got the full control like we are you going at my pace now you know what i'm saying right so playing into my scheme yeah what we do facts
00:10:00
Speaker
Um, not last, but not at least, but yo, the songs Clippers, I thought it was going to be more competitive, but book is going off a stat. I told you about book, bro. You was talking junk about that light skin brother, man. You was talking junk. I said, I said, if he's hurt, let him clear it up. Right. But also, but also, but also Kawhi hasn't played.
00:10:24
Speaker
That's right. Smith was like, he's like, that's the worst superstar of all time. Yo, I've heard that. They're saying, yo, this crazy means out about bruh. Oh my God. Yo, they say like, he really is like, he really hasn't shown up since.
00:10:40
Speaker
Toronto. Since Toronto, that's the last time he showed up as like superstar power. Like, I mean, you can kind of say that. I'm trying to think. Yeah. He got to the Clippers. He was jacked up. Yeah. The funny thing and the cool thing about him is like he keeps it how like the NBA was back in the day. We really don't know his life like that. So it's like, yeah, I guess so. Like he doesn't he doesn't say anything on Twitter, Instagram that we don't really know. The news told on his family, though.
00:11:09
Speaker
Yo, that's wild. That was really random. I was like, what? In other news, Kawhi's sister. It's on everything. Everybody's like, she, room, Hollywood. I'm like, y'all covering this? Murder. Murder. I was like, OK. This is the most hyped Kawhi letter has gotten in, like.
00:11:32
Speaker
since Toronto. He's trying to get beyond the shadow over him now that everybody's blowing up. Well, I don't know. If he could get back on the floor, I'm sure that would help a lot.
Russell Westbrook's Redemption
00:11:45
Speaker
Oh, for sure. For sure. For sure. Is he expected to come back at all? I mean,
00:11:51
Speaker
That's stat, what you been hearing? Yes, he projected to touch the floor this year, postseason. It's him without PG, too. That's terrible. Only Jesus knows at the moment. He's real careful with his knee. Actually, believe it or not, they said he really wanted to play, but that was actually the team who pulled them and said, you're not playing in game four. He wanted to play game four. They said he just has too much swelling in that knee.
00:12:20
Speaker
So he's trying to bang out he won't I mean, of course, I think I mean I never thought yeah Yeah, hey, but shout out the Westbrook, right? He's been dropping numbers
00:12:30
Speaker
37 yeah, yeah, yeah, he's been dropping numbers 37 on me like on the head the Westbrook slander Yo, it can't be said anymore like it was the team. Can we agree on that? It was the team in the system But you know what and you said he has been saying that sounds weird That sounds so weird. It was like well
00:12:51
Speaker
Make sure he goes to the Lakers. Like, why would you make him a Laker? It's not. I knew I wasn't going to work. GM LeBron James. But if that's the case, I don't know what he was seeing that we did not see.
00:13:10
Speaker
Like, I guess he can be wrong too, but just from watching basketball standpoint, it's like, why would you put him on that team? If you even think about it, what does that sound like? It didn't sound right. It didn't. It didn't sound right from what LeBron needs around him. It's like, you don't need a Westbrook. You just need someone that can catch and shoot and play defense for you. Like, that's what you need. You need Danny Green or something. Yo, Danny Green would have been nice on that squad. Honestly.
00:13:40
Speaker
If he was there already, it would have been nice. Off the bench, vet, experienced, knows how to play LeBron, perfect. Bring him back, but they didn't do that. But right now, Westbrook's in his bag. He is in his bag. 100% in his bag. I'm proud of him. For sure. Yo, he's stepping to fans in the...
00:14:06
Speaker
Somebody said in our comics Well, you know, we of course we posted a clip of it was hilarious. It was laughing It's that was like yo He was just about to smack his sandwich out of his face order french fries and then just beat him up in front of his kid That dude was yo his son was looking back like oh
00:14:24
Speaker
Russell Westbrook tried to beat up my dad. Pops was quiet. It was like, watch your mouth. I'm just saying, watch your mouth.
00:14:33
Speaker
Russell, I'm not rushing. Like he was on the floor and I would be crazy if somebody knocked at the door and it's like Horace Grant and he wants to cuss us out. Yo, he's a Horace Grant. Yeah, that's wild, son. What the goggles, bro? He's a figurehead, an NBA. All I'm saying is that I don't want somebody to come here and curse me out like Sean Marion or something.
00:14:59
Speaker
Hey bro,
Draymond Green's Ejection: A Championship Threat?
00:15:00
Speaker
you just got done playing. Your jersey's all sweaty. No, it was urgent. He got up the stairs. So he stepped to him.
00:15:08
Speaker
They got an elevator or something. Yo, what? When do you have time? Because I know he didn't walk up all the stairs to the stadium. And we're probably getting where the location was different. But the way it looked like in our eyes, like this man really took the elevator with the ushers. You know how it is. They have ushers. He's like, what are you doing? And I'm like, you know, I got to step to somebody real quick. I'll talk to somebody real quick. Don't worry about it. I got a meeting with somebody right now.
00:15:33
Speaker
pinpointed the exact room he was in. It was him. Third quarter. You got something to say? Watch your mouth. Hey, yo, this is wild. Watch your mouth. Little boy was like, that Russell Westbrook. Wait, we got a problem? Yo, for real, son.
00:15:49
Speaker
He gonna be scared for life. His pops talk crazy at home to the TV, but don't do that. He might pull up. Yeah, don't do that. He gonna know you here. Pat Bev will show up. Hey, bruh, that is hilarious. Hey, yo, Stat, what you got for us for the first topic, man? Let's hear what you got. The first topic is suspension, suspension, suspension. Not one strike, not two strikes, but three strikes on three miles.
00:16:20
Speaker
Mr. Draymond Green has caused himself to be on three strikes and I really do believe he's going to cause Golden State another championship. Gibron, can you please play that clip?
00:16:36
Speaker
What's your takeaway? The Golden State Warriors are in trouble. They see if you're Draymond Green for every action, grab your leg. There's a reaction, how you respond to it. So maybe if he would have kicked him or snatched his leg away and hit the back of his heel against his chin, he doesn't get ejected. But when you step on his chest, it wasn't Christian Latener against Kentucky in the early 90s. But still, when it happens in today's game,
00:17:02
Speaker
you're going to get ejected from the game. And you just put the results up there. They were 10 of 15 from the floor and shot 67% without the former defensive player of the year anchoring their defense. Now their charge is to win four of the next five. And I don't think they're going to be able to do that. So that's my takeaway. He helped put himself in position to get ejected, which now means the Warriors are going to get ejected from this series in the first round.
00:17:29
Speaker
And look, if we're going to talk about just this incident, I like what Sabona said in his interview going off the court. It's like, hey, look, we're battling. Things happen. Keep it pushing. But when you start doing this whole, I got to go get x-rays. Now, Draymond's getting x-rays on his ankle. And this is the back and forth. My thing about this.
00:17:48
Speaker
What's a bonus did was wrong. You don't do that. Anybody that has a basketball opinion, you don't see people grabbing someone's leg. I would have kicked them. I don't know if I would have stomped on them, but I got to get going. This is a postseason. And so look, Sabonis knew what he was doing. And that's where I say Draymond lost the petty battle here because they both did something petty. Draymond exceeded what Sabonis did.
00:18:10
Speaker
Draymond's out the game, and now all of a sudden, the kings can run. So if I'm Sabonis, I'd do that 100 times out of 100. Stay in the game. Kick me in my chest. You get out the game. 100 times out of 100. But I don't think any suspensions, I don't think any of that. Sabonis needs to own up to what he did, not saying that he protected himself in Draymond. Draymond deserved his technical. Sabonis did get a technical. To your point, Draymond did lose the battle by actually getting ejected from the game.
00:18:39
Speaker
Ayo, how'd you feel about that? I mean, upon further review, at first I thought that Dre Mom was just wiling again, but seeing that somebody, that he grabbed his ankle, like, again, I wouldn't do, you do that thing where you kick off maybe and maybe like wait till he gets up and really say something, get in his face like, bruh, like, you're trying to do that, I'm not gonna stop on you and I'm gonna put a forearm in your ribs next time you try to shoot.
00:19:07
Speaker
Like, if you really want to take it there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But the way he got stumped out, he was like, oh, yeah, it was so good. Yeah, and then he acted like, oh, Jesus, oh, Lord. Yeah, he acted like he was shot. I mean. But Draymond made it look all crazy. He did. And then it's the fact that it's Draymond that did it. Because he's always doing stuff that he should be punched for, yo. He is. He is. You saw the video that I did with the Kirk Franklin background? That's the one they take that down.
00:19:37
Speaker
No, they didn't take that job. No. Her friend can stop. Yeah. I promise the stone, the holes don't.
00:19:50
Speaker
Ayo, why is he watching that joke? My input on it, I'm like, man, I know how that feels. I'm grabbing your leg. Even when you go up, someone grabbing you when you're coming down from possibly Dunkin' or anything like that, that's annoying. That's annoying. It's weird. And then when someone grabbing your leg like that, you're trying to let go.
00:20:13
Speaker
I just know me, yeah, I woulda, y'all stumped him like Stone Cold Steve Austin. And you know what, I can couch because I was acting P-burg basketball games. Dana and them were beefing for way less. Stuff like that. Shout out Dana 2 Lee. Yeah, that's why you put this whole time. That's my thing, I love using people's social media handles. Yeah, you got to nowadays.
00:20:40
Speaker
Um, but not your staff. What's your input on that? What's your input on it? And then I guess we'll go back into like the, the ejection and everything like that. What's your input on it? Shacks that are best. He would have did the same thing. Me personally, I think he shouldn't have got injected suspended. No.
00:20:58
Speaker
I think he should have just got a nice find to cut the move because then you saw what happened against game three with and be doing what he did. Yeah. Yeah. So look at his vicious though. That's the thing. The way Draymond did it look like he just really remember is Draymond Green. Exactly. You got a target do always play on the kick. You kick me in my nuts and you're a seven footer indeed. That's a problem.
00:21:25
Speaker
Yeah, that's me catching that joint and tackling him to the floor. Yeah, it's over. It's over. Yeah, when he did it. Yeah, you're right. I feel what you're saying on that. I think when Embiid did that, they got their shots, right? They did their shots for that. And then the game was going on. Embiid didn't get taken down for that. You know what I'm saying? Got his little flag. I think that game, that game had like
00:21:49
Speaker
three flagrant fouls and like two texts or something like that. That was hard. It got kicked out the game. When does Hardin ever get kicked out the game? That was a tricky game, bro. That was a good game. I was sleeping on that series. That was a good series. It was tough. It was it was Philly tough. It was Brooklyn tough. Obviously Philly took over, but it was a good series. I won the bet overall. We can say that. But, you know,
00:22:15
Speaker
He didn't want to say, how did he say nothing about that? I brought it up the last time. I wasn't trying to win. I was just like, OK. He's going to admit it. Let's hear it. Let's hear it. He won. He said he had a better end of the deal. Who won what? JT won. I got no problem with that. When I lose, I lose. Loser. Loser. Can you see me? I'm doing the thing.
00:22:50
Speaker
But I did like how Richard Jefferson said like on his standpoint
00:22:55
Speaker
I think he said it that way because he get beat up Loki. He's like, yeah, stop on my chest. I was like, I'm here. I'm like, yeah, it's because you were, you know, you're not going to swing back. They used to happen. Probably. I don't know. But I think sometimes people like that, like, yeah, do it. It's for the good for the team. I'm like, yeah, that's good. But I got my own pride. Like you ain't going to step on me, bro. Like I'm going to hit you. I'm not going to say keep stepping on me. That's not my mindset. No, I don't.
00:23:20
Speaker
Well, I don't know. I think it depends, because if I do something to you to get you tight, and I want you to have a reaction, that's one thing. Because my main thing was this. I'm one of the football players that play basketball. You know what that means. I'm going to be short like a football player, but I don't have guard skills. So I'm a big man, because I'm big.
00:23:42
Speaker
So my big thing was, I'ma just get in your way, yo. I'ma keep getting in your way, and you're gonna have to keep pushing me, and like going through me, then you're gonna get mad, because I'm in the way, but I didn't do anything. Then when we come down the floor, I'ma crash into you a little bit, you're gonna start pushing me, and after a while, I'ma come down and act like I'ma crash into you. Then I'ma pass you, I'ma go behind you, get into one of them open spots, then I'ma score the first time. Then it's gonna be like, okay,
00:24:10
Speaker
while you keep letting the fat dude score on you and then open shots. Then the next time I do that, I'm gonna get the ball and I'm gonna pump fake. And then you're gonna jump and then I'm gonna go and I'm gonna, you know, make some shot. And it's gonna be like the fourth one. Now you're gonna get mad. Then I'm gonna start crashing like it's a whole mind game.
00:24:26
Speaker
but you're saying it in the smart mind says they talk like that's that's like if I push you and you punch me in the face and it's gonna be like oh you punched me and then they'll be like oh you gotta go number 31 get out of here and I'm gonna be clapping like thank you you just took the bait yeah so you're saying like it's you know it's the mind games what if I don't know someone stuff on me yo I
00:24:48
Speaker
but he stomped on him because he grabbed his ankle. So that's what I'm saying. If he had just done it like Draymond usually does when he just throws his foot and kicks you in the nuts, that's when I throw the ball in his face and smack him. He had to be. You know what he said? Yeah, he grabbed him.
00:25:13
Speaker
Dennis Rodman, see that's the thing, Dennis Rodman was like the original person I saw doing this because he was talking and saying weird stuff to people and then he would do that thing where he leans out way too far so you can run him over and everything. Like Draymond does that but it's not as cool when he does it because he's annoying, he's kicking people in the nuts.
00:25:36
Speaker
And that's the thing they try to say, I mean, way back, you know, when Draymond had this whole vision of him, they were saying like, oh, he kind of reminds us Dennis. But I'm like, yo, Dennis Robin wasn't a dirty player. He was way more smarter than people think. Yes, he was weird, but he was way more smarter than what you think. Draymond is just doing this stuff like, yo, you're physically hitting people in the nuts like that. But you know what kills me too about Draymond? I hate this. Like, if you're going to do that, I feel like you got to own it.
00:26:01
Speaker
Be up there like, you know, we're not afraid of the dirty tractors that they do, you know, we won't be The one doing that stuff is you doing that's funny way. I'd be laugh. I'm like, yo, he is hilarious I would smack the fire out of dream on green for doing something like that And I would call him goofy and I'd be like don't worry. He's clumsy. He falls all over the place Watch he plays like a toddler watch
00:26:24
Speaker
No accountability. Watch. And then when he does something, he's going to cry about on his podcast. That's that's the beef that I would have. That's facts. That's facts. But, yo, it is funny how he'd be like, nah, bro, like we did. We not scared of him. Like he really be acting like he do not do that for years. What? He's not even going to say that. I mean, you don't want that fine, but still like maybe he'll admit it after his career like, yeah,
00:26:48
Speaker
I did stomp on everybody. I kicked everybody's nuts on purpose. I stomped bro's chest on purpose. I can't see him doing it. I can see him just playing that role forever. I didn't do anything that you guys didn't lord in the 90s. So no, I'm not going to admit. That's hilarious. Man, it's fitting. Oh, NBA scene.
All-NBA Team Selections Controversy
00:27:10
Speaker
What's up? Oh, NBA scene. What's up with that? Oh, first team, second team, third team. The lineups.
00:27:19
Speaker
How do you feel about him? I mean, restart. We'll start with the first. First thing, Shay, Alexandra, Steph Curry, Jason Tato, Giannis, the Joker. Second thing, Luca, Donovan, Jalen Brown, Jimmy and Bede. Third team.
00:27:49
Speaker
Gary, uh, D Fox, Dane, Bronn, Laurie, Mark came to bonus. Okay. Any of these. Exactly. Who got slugged? KD, regardless. I mean, I guess they're just going to say, cause he was hurt. He can always get away with that. Like you can always get away with saying it's because he's hurt.
00:28:12
Speaker
Yeah, but but and but and but and be with her. That's true. Beginning of season. Yeah, I'm not trying to hear. I mean, but these and balling. I don't care. He's going to be. He needs to be the MVP. But hopefully at the same point in time, you ain't got Katie in there. Dad, not even like their team. Come on. And my my other argument would be Shay over D Fox. Ooh, D Fox was a second team or third. Third. Oh, nah.
00:28:42
Speaker
Nah, no, no, no, that little too low for D-Fox. Nah, not after this season. Nah, I'd give it to him. Third? You say he's rightfully put at third team. Yeah, Shay almost got to the play-in. And that team was expected to get the first pick in the draft. I mean, all big respect. I don't think I have a huge argument over where Shay should be. He's definitely not going to be third. He definitely agrees to be in this list of these players.
00:29:09
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I think maybe the argument would have been with D Fox. Maybe I don't know. But you're right. You said you made a standpoint. You said something that about his whole team and he really did put on his back. But I still don't know. First, I think the little argument between that two could have came somewhere like. Yeah. So Katie really not on this list at all. I'm trying to think who else got snuck when he feels about that.
00:29:34
Speaker
Yeah, he'd be saying he don't care now. He say he don't care about nothing. He's just trying to hoop. I mean, I love that mentality, but like, hey, bruh. They didn't say Kyrie, did they? No, Kyrie. You know, they ain't going to say Kyrie. You know, they trying to flat out him. He's still in trouble right now. Yeah, low key. Low key still in trouble. But that was wild. He was saying all this. He would definitely replace Donovan Mitchell.
00:30:04
Speaker
But he'd have to be hurt like he had to replace him. Yeah, someone has to get replaced. Yeah, you can't take D Mitch off this list right now. No, think about it. He's been a flamethrower. Yeah, you can't. We've been talking about him since when did he start having 40 point game? No, it's the 70 point games.
00:30:26
Speaker
Different team. I think like in December, he started that. Yeah, he was he was turning up going. So he turned me up. Hey, yeah, he was going in. He was going in. He was going in. Who else in there? I read for Fox. No, you can't say where Fox can't do that. I'm leaving Fox. Yeah. Fox is where you think I read over Luca.
00:30:51
Speaker
That's just me and how I feel about my bro, Kyrie. It's almost like, you know, here's where it goes into Luca being a face of the NBA now or one of the faces. Like that would be egregious. Like people would really whine about that or they would really talk about that, that he wasn't, that he was like not first team. Oh, OK. I see what you're saying.
00:31:18
Speaker
Or that he was replaced with Kyrie or something? Yeah. That would be a problem for people. It would be. Ooh, wait a minute. So do you think, so John Romant is obviously not in here. Do you think he messes himself up, right? Sure did. Yeah, that's messed up. I'm like, John, not even in the conversation either.
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00:31:40
Speaker
That's wild. Maybe that's just part of his punishment, because everybody's saying he could grow from this. Well, a lot of us jumped on his head about the stupid stuff he's been doing. But a lot of the old heads had valid points where they were like, we were stupid too. We were so young. I'm like, OK, whatever. But he has to learn. So I guess maybe that's going to be part of his learning process. Yeah, I mean, yeah.
00:32:08
Speaker
Like, because in the beginning of this year, I didn't think I'd be hearing SGA's name like this. And there's people that can. Last season, his name was getting, he was getting up there. They were saying his name a little bit, but I see what you were saying. Like, from last year to now, I didn't think SGA was on the first team. Yeah, you're gonna think, yeah, two things. He's first team. KD's not on the list at all. And neither is John Morant. You didn't think that. Kyrie. It's wild.
00:32:37
Speaker
I know y'all didn't even think that last year. Ooh, James Harden's not even on there either. That's cool. I mean, that's cool. I'm just saying this this group of people from first team, second team to third team, there's a lot of new faces. It's not a continuous that we overheard. You remember when Kobe was playing? He was always on this list regardless. So was Bron, no matter what. The Bron was always on that first team, like no matter what.
00:33:01
Speaker
So now it's just like, it's a lot of new pieces coming around. Like it's like, dad, like SGA is very new. D Fox, very new on, you know what I'm saying? It's just like, okay, like it's starting to turn. SGA was always hot because it was rumored that he wanted to get traded at OKC because they were wasting his potential. He's already getting, he's already getting talked to about getting traded to Toronto. Oh yeah, they're rebuilding.
00:33:27
Speaker
Everyone, everyone, everyone's on the trade block, except Scotty Barnes. Yeah, yep, yep, yep. Fred definitely got to go. And Nick Nurse got, well, Fred Van Lee, he can actually opt out, but Nick Nurse got fired. Yeah, that's all total, total rebuild, total rebuild. As we're talking about Toronto, I just want to bring up some, you know, some past news, bro. You remember when the Raptors
00:33:56
Speaker
Did my coach dirty, Casey? Dwayne, crazy. Yo. Oh, and they fired him right after they won. Yo, that was crazy, son. That was crazy. I don't think that's ever been done before. It must have been so, so surprised, yeah. I don't think that's ever been done before. They want to talk to you. They want to talk to you. All right, cool, yeah. Hold up, everybody chill out. What's going on? Oh, you fired Dwayne?
00:34:22
Speaker
Who is this? He hung up the phone on him like somebody's playing. And then they saw it on ESPN like, oh, dad really fired me. I forgot about that. That is wild. And then the, and then the following year, Nick Nurse was the championship. That's just as bad as Mark Jackson.
00:34:45
Speaker
Mark Jackson, we've poured out plenty of vials of liquor from Mark. I talk about that. That's he built that team. Yeah, he got kicked out. They say more than build a team. He started the new era of ball like for all the coaches like, yo, this is how you let me come on. Let's be real. Everybody is kind of implementing.
00:35:04
Speaker
what the warriors have done not just bringing superstars i'm talking about fast pace running around that that point guard that can do that you know that two-way there's two-way players there's two point guards on the court now like that like yeah you need that fast pace warriors didn't do that i'm just saying it's just like it's that fast pace like yo we need two playmakers out here to keep everybody moving to keep the defense moving not stagnate not staying still we need movement
00:35:29
Speaker
And we need Steve Kerr to be the head coach. Mark Jackson not to be easy. They got him out. Hasn't really had a job since, not like coaching like this since then. We need them blacklisted. Yeah, totally. You know that. I know that. Total blacklisted. It's not. One o'clock the Knicks play tonight. One o'clock the Knicks play. Will we win? We're going to win. Oh.
00:35:58
Speaker
Everything's a must-win. Yeah, it's a must-win. I think we need to man Chris Lavert came in on nowhere for the Cavaliers I was like dad. I didn't like that. No, I wanted to stay your cares. Oh, yeah I was like I wanted him to stay in the background Because I know he's nice from back in the day when he used to hook for the looking nets But they just it's like oh, yeah, you do hoop He's been he's been balling. I was like dad I did not want that because I think his matchup is
00:36:28
Speaker
kinda RJ and RJ's getting cooked by Mitch and bruh, like it's not good, not a good look. Terrible series. I think we need to make that, we need to get that W. We need to take over on that. That would be very nice for us, honestly. That would be very nice for us. One game closer to really what I think might be the ultimate goal of our, the season, this season. 3-1. Next game we got Kings Warriors that we've been talking about. That's gonna be amazing. I'm watching that.
00:36:57
Speaker
Yeah, that's gonna be great. I watched that. That's at what? What time is that? What time is that one?
00:37:05
Speaker
I think that's 330. He is at 330. Oh, we didn't even talk about the Celtics Hawks matchup. So that that game is coming up next to their matchup. It's two, one, of course, Boston up. I was surprised by the Hawks. I thought the Celtics were going to do a little sweet. But not the Hawks want to make a little push. Yeah. The next the next sweep is going to be Denver.
00:37:28
Speaker
Yeah, oh yeah. They're three and oh, and they put in work over the weekend. So they got a game coming up tonight as well too. Yeah, Denver is. I'm not going to focus or really speak on Denver until this next round because that's when we need to see what's going on. Like I said, I think they need to prove themselves as a team slash organization that yo, like we can continue in the playoffs and get where we need to be at as they do in a regular, you know, and in the series, you know, not serious in the regular season. So.
00:37:58
Speaker
Next season, Imma pay attention more to them. I watched the game of course, but I'm just like, this is what they should be doing. They're going against the Timberwolves, bro. They should be doing this. Shout out to Kat. Kat, I'd go bare actually. To me, he was been hooping. I've been watching the games. Kat been doing some nice moves. Ants been stepping up, but you know, the Nuggets have been too much. Jokers, I think he had a triple double last game. I was like, dang, them numbers is crazy. And it's like, I watched the game. I wasn't really, I ain't gonna front.
00:38:26
Speaker
I was watching it was on, but I didn't. It was late, you know, but I stayed up. I was like, dad, his numbers was crazy. Like, when did he do all this? That's why I was like, when did he do all this? But hey, man, that second round, we need to see what's going on with them, bro. You know, not before we get not before we get a crowd to might play a game. Who do you think out of the four games tonight going to have a fight? Who fighting at night? A fight. Where are we going? Kings Warriors. Kings Warriors. Hopefully.
00:38:55
Speaker
Yeah, it sounds like Kings Warriors. I say Kings Warriors, if anything. They got it brewing. And maybe the Nuggets and Timberwolves, because it's 3-0. That Wolves team is not... Bruh, right after they had the fight on the sideline, Anderson was scuffling up with somebody. You know what I'm saying? So I was like, they got... They're a chippy team. I like that. But I think they're not going to gut that 3-0 happen easily. So, you know what I'm saying? So I think they might get a little chippy too.
00:39:22
Speaker
I think the next, I think Donovan, if Donovan loses, if he's a losing by the end of the fourth quarter, I think he's gonna start something. Or someone on that team's gonna start something. Good, get him kicked out. Yeah, but if anything on that, it'll be Randall, and he get baited easily. Like how you say you play my games, I think he's the easiest probably, but he's been holding his own for a while. It's not funny, because you say stuff to me. He's been holding it down for a while, but if anything, it might be Randall.
00:39:50
Speaker
That's why I ain't want to say nothing. I'm like, it'd be on our squad. So I ain't trying to put that on my team at oil. Nah, I think Donovan is going to be mad if he loses another game.
00:39:58
Speaker
at home to the next, I think he's going to I think he's going to start something. I think he's going out swinging. I don't know about that. I think he just dropped numbers. He might get 50 on us. Oops. Yeah, subtract about 25 from that. You know, we'll see. We'll see. But yo, what's up? You got a game? You know, I got game. All right. Cool. Cool. Copa steady.
00:40:32
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Yeah, y'all know we can't do the game without the music. Since we've been talking about what we've been talking about today, KD got snubbed, John Moran snubbed himself. I'm gonna make one of y'all, well both of y'all are snubbing somebody today.
00:40:57
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These are some of the most notable snubs in history. I'm not gonna tell you who it is. I'm gonna make y'all decide which one has got to go. You know how we do. Let's get started. First of all, I'm gonna give you four people. Choose which one you're gonna, you would snub, you feel comfortable snubbing. And is it snubbing out like all time? This is some of that all time stuff. Okay, okay. So we have
00:41:27
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Two-way center really, rim protector, 15 rebounds, 11 points, two blocks per game, 71% field goal percentage.
00:41:45
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Maybe I'll leave that there. We got a real smooth point guard, right? Old school. 28 points per game. 9.2 assists per game. Two rebounds. 48% field goals. He must have shot some threes. We got... How do I frame this? We have a floor running forward.
00:42:14
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who admittedly is not the Batman or the Robin on his team, but 14 points, 10 rebounds, almost two blocks, almost two steals a game, 57.8 field goal percentage. And we got a superstar of 22 points per game, nine rebounds, one block, 47%, but he shot a lot of threes, 30, almost 40 from three point.
00:42:46
Speaker
I must say about him, he took his team from 40 wins the year before the 53. And I guess the second most win shares, like the second most credits for winning the games that year. Now, what y'all thinking? That's a big forward. A forward is like a big guard.
00:43:09
Speaker
So you're asking us who had the biggest snub out of them stats? Yeah, like who would you have to cut? Oh, who would I have to cut? Yeah. The big forward, by the way, was only the second player ever to shoot 70 plus percent from the field. The only other guy was Wilt. And just the third player to average 15 rebounds.
00:43:30
Speaker
got snubbed, wasn't good enough. That was the first dude, right? That was the first one. He can't get snubbed, because his stats, it's crazy. You just added extra stuff to it, too. Yeah, I know, that's why you want to say that. I was already keeping him in my squad. I'm like, nah, I can't snub, bruh. I will go with, I think this probably had to been your second player. He averaged 28, was it? Yeah, 28 and 9. 9 assists is a point guard.
00:43:56
Speaker
Ooh, I don't know about that. That's about it. That's it, I can't. What's the third guy again? 14 points. Yeah, 10 rebounds, almost two blocks, almost two steals, 57.8% field goal percentage. Okay, he gonna get snubbed on my squad. That's my first pick for that. Who you got at, Stat? That was gonna be my person, but I'm gonna go with the last person.
00:44:24
Speaker
So you got one, you're gonna go with the three, the third player and the fourth player? No, the last player. Oh, you're going with the last player? You're the third player. Okay, we get one apiece. Okay, okay, okay. Okay, bet. All right, so. That makes me uncomfortable. Let's hear, let's hear who we snubbed. Let's hear who I snubbed. I snubbed the third player.
00:44:44
Speaker
You snubbed Horace Grant, who you thought was random before. He's not, but like, you know how that go. He was not even the third option on the team. 91, 92 Horace Grant. Oh, yeah. Yeah. But that's weird, because, I mean, maybe they didn't do it at that time, obviously. It's just like, that whole squad should have been up there, though. But yeah, OK, OK. I'm not heard about that. I'm not heard about that.
00:45:13
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Stat this guy who he cut dirt 2000 2001 dirt The other two yeah, who's the first one the first one I said was actually DeAndre 1516 Clippers DeAndre, okay
00:45:34
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15 rebounds, 11 points per game, almost three blocks, 71% field goals percentage. And I think they said after AD got hurt that year, they put somebody else in, so they still could have got him in there, but they was like, nah, just leave him out. Yeah, they used somebody else. I forgot who, oh, they used old Dirk. Wow.
00:46:00
Speaker
Yep, that same year. And the second one that I said that, I don't know if I have the heart to cook this dude, especially like this. He was almost 30 points per game. And nine assists, the silky point guard. Yeah, who is this? 1971-72 Nate Archibald. You can't snub him. You can't. It happened. They did him dirty like that? And that was like, they said that was like his second year.
00:46:32
Speaker
I mean, if we had history checks, if we had stat here, I would make him look up. I know we I would make him look up like who you could snub. Who's like who? Why wasn't he in there? Like who else was there? Who took his spot of 30 and 10 point guard? No, in the 70s, second year, second year point guard. So that means that all you gave yourself away a little bit. You said, oh, he is shooting no threes. It was no three point line.
00:46:57
Speaker
I guess not. But still, he was doing that without threes. Exactly. That's what I'm saying. That's crazy. Yo, almost averaging thirty nine. Yo, wait a minute. Like not an all star at all. Not that he didn't get MVP. He was not an all star. Just not like he was like, yo, you're not all star. He didn't get that designation. Stack, can you answer like.
00:47:20
Speaker
If you have time to do quick research, who was on that list as an all-star? 71, 72 NBA All-Star team. Who was on bruh's squad? Because he made that team work. What was his record? If you can look that up, if you can, bro. If you can beat me to it. Right now? We're doing that right now. Oh, dang. Yo, he say he don't make any shop out in the office, yo.
00:47:47
Speaker
Let's see, let's see. I got it. Since he, you know, he doesn't want to do it. I thought we were doing that next episode. No, we're just for that specific team. Yeah, just for that. So what was the MVP that year? Well, first, first team, Happy Hairston. Don't even know who that is. Jerry West, Walt Frazier, Jerry Lucas, Dave the Busher. Just stop right there. You just said the point guard that's better than him, Frazier.
00:48:17
Speaker
Yeah. That was only the first team though. But yeah, but dad was still. Oh yeah. Have the check. Kareem. Kareem. Oh no. Well, oh, okay. So he was on the second team. Yeah, but still got some of the first team. That's why. Bob love. Who are these people? Wilt was second team.
00:48:46
Speaker
Oh, this is a serious squad. It's a problem. Yeah, you know what? This is an issue. That was the game. Nate, y'all snubbed Dirk. No, he snubbed him. I picked mine. I was like, this is who I got. I think I did fine. He took out Dirk. I would never take out Dirk. He's going to hear about that stat. I respect Dirk. He's going to hear about that.
00:49:15
Speaker
I respect him. I knew not to take away the point guard. I knew not to take DeAndre Jordan. Uh, Horace. Horace was an interesting guy. Maybe that's why he left. He got his ring. Yeah, he did. Then he went to Orlando. He was tough there too. He got emotional in Orlando a little bit.
00:49:40
Speaker
It's the goggles, man. And they changed colors, too, with the T. You notice that? That was tough. They was swaggy. They was swaggy. But all right, yo. We going to head out. It's the end of the episode, man. Watch your NBA games. This playoff series has been crazy, man. We going to see you next time. This is Friends versus Friends. Peace. Peace.