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NBA Load Management The Good, The Bad, The Ugly
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NBA Updates & 'Winning Time' Cancellation
00:00:08
Speaker
Yo, what up, what up, what up? This is Hoot Media hosted by the group that hate each other, love each other, but we debate each other at the same time, friends versus friends. What's good with you? I got the reference club. Hate you. What's good, what's good? Hate you. Yeah, we got some NBA talk going on, man. We got some good news. We still in this all season. I'm waiting for the season to start. Let's go, man. You know it's a football season.
Football Season Regrets
00:00:32
Speaker
Yeah, it is football season. None of our teams are doing well. All three of us. That's the truth. And now I regret saying something. Yeah, that's easy to say. That is so sad, bro. Moving right away. Bro, one thing I do want to say before we go to like real NBA news, man, they shut down my show. Winning time. HBO canceled that show on season two.
00:00:54
Speaker
I know you probably wasn't on it. I don't know. You were ahead, so you'd be usually on it. Yeah, but sadly, you already know Money Talks. Yeah, Money Does Talk. The ratings, I guess, for season two were down. It was getting good. How are you going to end it when they lose to the Celtics? Sorry, spoilers. They already lost. You know what I'm saying? They won their two. They won the first one in season one, second season. They won their second one. And at the end of it, they lose to Larry. And Larry was like,
00:01:22
Speaker
The person that got playing Larry, I'm like, yo, this is Larry Bird, like how he was. I was about to say, I hope he looked just like him was talking like he was talking like him talking like him every day. I'm like, yo, Larry's. They got someone from Indiana just for him. Yeah, he was crazy. The brought that place up to a cream. Um.
00:01:41
Speaker
I think I was like, yo, that's perfect. It's not like his mannerisms and everything. But yeah, hopefully they try to another network picks that up in the season three. Stars call 50. Hey, that would be crazy. Don't act like 50 don't do. The OG. That would be crazy. That would be crazy. I wonder why it kind of didn't pan out. I mean, you said money, but like, hey. Entertainment is like that in general now. Movies come out, they're not making no money.
00:02:08
Speaker
True. That's because Hollywood sucks. Well, the writers of the series sucks. But even before that, for the past couple of years, movies come out. And they perform OK, but the budgets are so big. Nobody's earning that money like that. They're not seeing the return. And then they cancel dope stuff. Yeah, facts.
D-Wade's Personal Revelations
00:02:30
Speaker
Yo, another thing I wanted to bring up, I don't even know how to announce this, but so you know, so Shannon Sharp, you know, he has his own podcast. He had D-Wave on there. So D-Wave. Everything the whole talk about was how D-Wave. I skipped that episode purposely. Why? All right, so how he was talking about how he had to tell Gabby, he's like, yo, I had another kid on you, basically.
00:02:57
Speaker
They were married, right? That was when you were married. And I do see paying attention. The controversy was like, what was it? So Shane Sharp said, what was worse, winning a finals or telling Gabby this? So I was like, what do you mean, bro? Like telling Gabby you and that you had another kid on her like.
00:03:16
Speaker
You know what, I haven't really liked her since I saw the evil movie. Yeah, it would have been my pleasure to tell her. She was valeted at me. She was annoying. She was pretty, but I don't like her from that. She was sexy mean. I like that. What? You wildin'. All right, that's the whole time. But yeah, she was wildin'. You tell her. She would like to kill her kung fu wolf cheek. But dawg, that was kind of like, yo, that was deep. What'd she do to him?
00:03:44
Speaker
You know, that we, you know, we don't know if she described behind the scenes stuff. But, you know, Wade was basically saying the way he was basically saying, like, you know, then with therapy, it was hard for him to actually say it. He had to say, you know, you know, confront it before, you know, it kind of got out to the world. She was cheating, too. Anyway.
00:04:01
Speaker
Who knows? They were on a break. That's what they say. They were on a break on the rocks. But still, yeah. But the messed up part is basically like he was saying that his son. And I didn't know it was a boy. It was a boy. We didn't know it was the gender. He gets a bad name kind of sort of before he was even born because of that situation. You know what I'm saying? So that's messed up. And he's going to be the best baller. Probably. That's the origin story right there. That's the origin story right there. But yeah.
00:04:32
Speaker
Well, that's my little news, besides the real NBA talk, you know what I'm saying? Just the little media stuff, you know, I got out there reporting on the news, you feel me? Reporting on D-Wade. Well, you know, Stack got the real news. What's up? What you got for us, man? What's the news in rumors, dawg?
NBA Trade Discussions: Lillard & Mitchell
00:04:48
Speaker
Someone by the name of Dame Lillard is very upset that this trade has not happened yet from Miami. It won't happen.
00:04:56
Speaker
It won't happen for bro, yo. It's not gonna, it should have happened already. Two words, too late. Too late. It's too late. He said in a perfect world, he really would have stayed in Portland. I don't care, you know, in a perfect world. We already know in a perfect world, because he should have been gone when the opportunity was hot for him to go.
00:05:17
Speaker
First of all, he needs to open up his options. Miami's not gonna happen. The only way it can happen for Miami, if they do a multi-team trade. That's the only rumor. And they saying like, yo, they wanna trade him before training camp starts. Training camp starts October 2nd or 3rd for most teams. So yeah, two weeks from now. So they want that. A lot of teams, a lot of players hate that because literally you're going to practice. The first question is how do you feel about Dame requesting a trade?
00:05:47
Speaker
And they're going to get sick of tired of that. And then a lot of them get scared because they're thinking like, yo, am I going to get traded with Dame too? Yes. Yes, you will. But yeah, they're saying he really, he said in a perfect world, he really would want to stay in Portland.
00:06:02
Speaker
Management wants it done, he wants it done, but they're not gonna pull the trigger until they get what they want. They want players, they want up and coming stars, and they're basically saying scoop is their future. This is all very cute. Yeah, he was the high draft pick, and we already knew that. I don't even think, even if they don't get a trade-off, you think he will sit out or something? Nah, he said if he gets traded, he'll show up. They said if he's here in Portland, he'll still be a professional.
00:06:30
Speaker
But someone said something real interesting. One team in the East that they said that he could get traded to is Toronto. Toronto? Yeah. Dame in Toronto. Okay. Remember, just like what happened to Kawhi. Yeah.
00:06:48
Speaker
But something interesting for us Nick fans, Wendy Winhorse, he was saying Donovan Mitchell is not going to sign the extension this off season. Rumor still has it he's dying to come to New York. Does that work for us? No. That's what I'm saying. That's why I didn't care before. And now we're coming. But he still wants to come home. You putting your hand in the air. Just don't care.
00:07:19
Speaker
If it's not gonna work for us, it's not, it's like, I think he's good. His finances are good, family's probably good. Everything's cool. But his family wants him there. He wants to be here. He wants to be home. We messed him up. I think we messed him up for real for it because remember, we should have drafted him, but we didn't. What that got to do with me though, that's what I'm saying. He wants to come home.
00:07:42
Speaker
He's not gonna sign the extension. Well, I think he's good somewhere else. I don't want to get our team messed up. You know what I'm saying? I'm about to have a terrible football season watching the Steelers. I want the Knicks to be OK. You know what I'm saying?
00:07:59
Speaker
especially, I don't know, that we could be competitive. I miss, everything is cooler when the Knicks are competitive, right? 90s. By the way, here's something the Knicks, they haven't done this since like the 90s. Training camp is usually up in upstate, not outside of New York City.
00:08:18
Speaker
Now they're going back to back in the 90s. They used to go to South Carolina. Now they're going back, bringing it back 90 style. They don't want the players in the city. They want them down south. Nothing. I was tired of the city, bro. But remember, we're older. They're young.
Suns' New Management Strategy
00:08:34
Speaker
They're dumb. They just focusing on everything but basketball. Except Jaylon Brunson. That's a lot. Always be hustling. I'm so tired of that.
00:08:46
Speaker
about it, yo. I had a comparison. He's gonna be better than Jah. I mean, he is better than Jah right now. He's a better leader. He's a better leader. He's a better leader. Jah is somewhere doing like dumb stuff. He's doing that right now.
00:09:05
Speaker
That's just cool. That's just cool. That is kind of cool. That's just cool. Chris Middleton said, yo, business as usual. They're not real. He's not really sweating it with the whole Giannis rumor. They're already saying if something bad happens, meaning the season's not going where it's supposed to be, rumors saying that they might trade Giannis. Do you agree with everybody saying like, yo, his brother's just picking up them two spots? First of all, they messed up. So it's not both.
00:09:30
Speaker
Alex is actually I think they picked they picked somebody up. They picked up Alex. Yeah, but they cut him. So they put him in their G League. So it's not really like counting on the roster. So what about his other brother? That's there. That's the story. That's so it's one not two. But funny thing, the Knicks were dying to go to resign. He almost signed with us this season. Why?
00:09:53
Speaker
Because that's the way of getting Giannis. Oh, dang. Don't you think that's kind of dirty? It's like, yo, we're using your family members. That's business. I know, but it's like, dang, that's dirty. That's business. And there's no better place to do that business than in New York. But to say about, is it messing it up?
00:10:15
Speaker
you think about it two players well and they're really one it's usually this money first of all the brothers not getting paid that much money i know but it's still money but it's usually he's like the 15 man off the bench it's nothing special it's still money what money
00:10:32
Speaker
It's money, it's not like he's not getting paid. It's like, yo, you're here, but it's like, so you think they will, like, if they had a trade, man, we probably can't say it. They're not gonna just like, all right, your brother's gotta go so we can get him. You don't think he'll complain? I think he'll wanna win. Hopefully. No, he said he wants to win. He said his legacy's gonna base on winning championships. He has won, and he hasn't, I don't see him being like,
00:10:59
Speaker
not put LeBron in that caliber like that. But you know, LeBron, he's up there in management. Like he's like, hey, what can we do to make this happen? So he's a company man. No, but at least he has to say, I don't think Giannis does that. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, they probably say, hey, yo, what do you want? I think he tries to trust them. I think he tries to trust man. He sits back. He has that different role, which is cool for a player. I guess he just, yeah, he just knuckles up. He's a company man.
00:11:33
Speaker
I'ma give a shout out to the new Phoenix owner. So what he did is he's giving away free antennas so that fans can actually watch the games on basic free cable. So he's not even worried about the money. He's like, yo, it's free. Sign up for it. We'll ship it to you.
00:11:54
Speaker
Whatever they do, he's going to just rock with it.
00:12:02
Speaker
Which is smart, because now he's going to get more fans, which is going to generate people. He came up with his own new package or something? No, it's like the cable, the antenna is going to get. Antenna? Like he's giving an antenna. A cable antenna so that they can get the free basic cable so that they can see the games. He wants it on free TV for on the basic cable channels so that people can see the games. OK. So big up to him on that. He probably making bread on that because he came up with it.
00:12:31
Speaker
I just respect that he wants.
00:12:32
Speaker
he wants people to really think, like, yo. Like, yo, this is the city. Like, what's up? Like, this is your team. Like, everybody should be able to watch it without paying for it. Especially, like, because of Robert Sauver being a racist jerk. So he wants to show that, yo, it's a new organization controlling it. Better people. Kyle is laughing. Yeah, I'm thinking about something. He probably got some old tweets that say something crazy. Who, him? Yeah. Probably. And it's not going to come up until later this season.
00:13:02
Speaker
We have a chance to do something that nobody has ever done before. You said he hates blacks. All I'm saying is, they could have kept having different water fountains. It could have worked, don't you say it. 2009, I'll just say it now. It's jokes. It's jokes. Victor Oladipo, I mean, no, not Victor Oladipo.
Olympic Basketball Plans
00:13:30
Speaker
Wendy, he said he's gonna be playing in the Olympics in 2026. For France? For France, that's cool. He gonna get smoked with France? After they got destroyed in the earlier, in FIFA.
00:13:47
Speaker
He said he's gonna help him win. They can have that. We're coming with our team too. Bronz already calling up people. Assembling. Yeah, man. He assembling them, bruh. KD, Steph. Kyrie. Captain America. Booker. Katie. Yeah. Everybody's going. Katie coming through. You know what it is. Noah Lyle says something. Curry. Curry out there. Make him bear witness. He has to be the water boy. CP3 should come up too. They need CP3.
00:14:16
Speaker
Is he going to be available or is he going to be? He'll be healthy. He's going to be in it. He'll be healthy for that. He'll be good for that. Well, thank you for bringing that guy up. Now guess what? Golden State says he will be starting. He should be starting. Yeah, that's interesting. So the starting line will be him.
00:14:44
Speaker
they're both jerks. They've been shooting. They've been
00:14:48
Speaker
They're both jerks. They go hand in hand. I never thought that was going to be a problem. Nah, I knew that would be good. I knew that would be good. I think Draymond needs someone that's going to talk back and not be like, man, you know why he ain't worried? Because then by November, he's going to be hurt.
00:15:21
Speaker
He was in New Orleans when I was like in high school when we were in high school
00:15:28
Speaker
school. Yeah. Back when Master P had that team with Romeo on it. Yeah. Remember the slam magazines and stuff. I remember nasty sneakers.
00:15:47
Speaker
Nobody had any P. Miller gear. I know you did I didn't go to high school
00:16:10
Speaker
Whoo! I had a pair of pants and I didn't know there was P Miller or something. Is this Miller? I see Miller. Is it P on it? Damn, P Miller. You paid his thing. But now, Golden State's trying to think about giving Clay another extension. He's a free agent at the end of the season. So they already said, looking at extension. They're going to make this dude Curry Tom Brady. Yeah.
00:16:39
Speaker
and he ain't going nowhere. He got, that's a mad respectable legacy right there. Resume, crazy. I think you talking about LeBron. Curly will never have to say anything. All you gotta do is win one more championship. He never had to say a word every day. One more than Bron. Talk's gonna be, he was better than Bron.
Curry's Legacy Debate
00:17:02
Speaker
And then Ty with Kobe, or one more than Kobe?
00:17:06
Speaker
Is it Kobe four? No, Kobe's five. Five? Because Shaq is four. Because Shaq blew up his TV when Kobe got that one, because he was mad, because Kobe has one more than him. So Curry gets five. He won two with Pocahontas. Yeah.
00:17:27
Speaker
He won two. And the one, my favorite one with Lamar Oden. So Clay, he's gonna be long term. They're not gonna break up that team. They're gonna let them retire on their own graces.
00:17:47
Speaker
together yo mad respectable especially this day and age where everybody leaves teams switching up they never did they never did no I could have probably left but he wanted to stay he could have went to Detroit because everyone said he wanted to go home
00:18:04
Speaker
No, Caesar is home. You're right here. You're right here. The rings is over here. Plus, Detroit sounds cold. It's very cold. Yeah, man. I'm not messing with him. Do you know there's a person that he's getting an interview with the Warriors right now? Dwight? They already said he's not going. They're not picking him up. We don't know that. I don't think they need to get surprised. It got reported that they're not picking him up. They need to use them centers that didn't get drafted. I'd rather do that.
00:18:35
Speaker
No, I wouldn't mind the way there was nothing wrong with the white man. Before he was not playing, he was over. They know he's saying so many such things on social media. They change. It's not even such no more debate. The query is complete. We already know we know what he does.
00:18:54
Speaker
That's fine that he does that. You know what I'm saying? If he wants to, you want to say whatever? Look bro, whatever. I don't think he denied it this time either. He might as well not. I think everybody understands.
00:19:09
Speaker
We all understand. We know what you do, brother. It's OK. Can you get us 12 and 9? He's at 12 and 9. Can you get us 12 and 9? Just definitely call before you show up at his crib. Please knock. I will be there in 25 minutes, Dwight. 25, OK? Please.
00:19:37
Speaker
We will be there so soon. A sad thing for this person. Clippers aren't interested anymore with trading for Harden. Yeah, whatever. The Clippers ain't on nobody's radar. Neither is Harden. Harden's going to be screwed. He is. He's getting what he's doing. At least they're the next two Snakers.
00:20:01
Speaker
Yo, every time somebody doesn't know where you're going, we always banish them to Detroit. I've been seeing Detroit since last year. Just randomly just saying it. That's better than saying to the Knicks, because that's just hell for us. It only happens if it's a vet that was a star. There you go.
00:20:18
Speaker
I take a shooter. Speaking of a shooter, I'm going to give you a rumor. Buddy Hill, he's on the block. Why? Mavs and the 76ers are interested in him. I'm not the 76ers. I can see him in Dallas. Dallas would be nice. Because then you have. Where's Timmy at? He's there. But he's a better shooter than Timmy. He is way better shooter than Timmy.
00:20:43
Speaker
Irving you got Luca and then you have three options Three shooters and you got Timmy coming off the bench and although do it really just asking to knock it down Yeah
00:21:01
Speaker
I don't know, I was a fan of that dude. I'm a fan of Buddy Hill. I didn't like that he got drafted by the Pelicans. They messed him up. And then they shipped him to Sacramento. And that's when he got good. And then he went to Indiana. And he was just like, yo. And that's when Halliburton cried. He was like, you get used to that because he got traded three times.
00:21:22
Speaker
He started crying because he got drafted by Sacramento. Yeah, he was like, yo, was it me? Buddy was like, yo, you get used to that. That's the business. And he got the bag after that. He broke down to Buddy. He stepped to him. He cried.
00:21:38
Speaker
Yo man, come out the shower with me. I gotta ask you a question. You think it was me? It's not fair,
Tristan Thompson's Career Stability
00:21:47
Speaker
yo. Like, now you got traded. That's nasty. But not Tristan. I'm old Thompson. Resign with the Cavs.
00:21:58
Speaker
So that's his final resting, please. That's all. You know he got to pay child support. I would imagine he does. He got picked up by the Lakers and then the Cavs? Yeah. Tag. Well, remember, they drafted him. He must be needed. I know. He must be needed or something. He needs to pay child support. Yeah.
00:22:17
Speaker
I'm gonna give you two more, and this is out of respect for them. Baron Davis, third pick in the draft in 99. Gerald Wallace, drafted by the Bobcats in the 2004 expansion draft. They're gonna get honored, not this year, but next year, by the Hornets for their contribution.
00:22:42
Speaker
You know, you know, Baron Davis did his thing when he was there and they and they drafted in the expansion jams. Gerald Wallace. He was on my my NBA street team. He had to be. He was on my NBA street team. I just got sad when he blew out his knee with the next. Yeah, that was that was so sad when he did that. We had a squad when he was there, too. He was number ninety five. He started looking like a football player.
00:23:10
Speaker
He already was a football player on the court. Oh, he was a big guy. He was a big dude. Yeah. He even looked that tall because he was so wide. Like, it's like if I was in shape for once. You know what I'm saying? But he was so he was so nasty. So nasty. You know, did he have sneakers? I'm pretty sure he did. No. Yeah. But I'm I'm blanking. I think he did too. Maybe they were like and ones or something like Cheryl Wallace. I think he had and ones.
00:23:38
Speaker
You gotta go do some homework. Yeah, man. You shouldn't. You just sneak ahead. You know all this. Now, this is the last two people. What's up? Maristadamara and Sean Marron this season are gonna get their numbers put in the rapper Raptors. Well, which one? Cuz uh. Both. Amari was thirty-two and one. Oh, yeah.
00:23:57
Speaker
Damn, then he's lucky for Phoenix. He was both in Phoenix. But I think his best years are really dirty, too. It should be dirty, too. That's interesting. He tried to do Kobe, because Kobe got 8 and 24. For that winner, that was like the last year he was one. I remember him being one.
00:24:16
Speaker
No, I think they're doing 32, because what was Sean Marion? 31? 31 and 32 is going up. Matrix. I remember his sneakers. I remember his sneakers. Trash. But I do remember. Trash. I do remember, though. All right. Looking at that Baron Davis, too. You doing your homework assignment now. I'm curious. But while you're doing it, that was the news and rumors report.
00:24:43
Speaker
Where where where where that's what's
NBA Load Management Rules
00:24:45
Speaker
up. So let's jump into like the first topic that we got going on that low management talk the disrespect
00:24:51
Speaker
The disrespect. Why are you saying disrespect? Because people already found loopholes. But now he did. Because there's certain people that are mad. But when it comes to the wrestling stars, one team must manage their roster and ensure that no more than one star is unavailable in the same game. Stars must be available for national televised and in-season tournament. Exception for 35-year-olds that play 34,000 regular season minutes
00:25:19
Speaker
or 1,000 games, that's including regular season and playoffs. The fines, the first fine, first offense is 100,000. Second offense is 250. Third offense is over 1 million.
00:25:35
Speaker
It's crazy. I mean, at first it sounds good, but then when you were saying this, there's loopholes. So the example I heard was like, you got to be an all star, basically. So they're saying upcoming rising players that are basically upcoming, they're like, yo, they got potential. So the prime example, it was a kid cutting him. They were basically saying that like, yo, look.
00:25:56
Speaker
He's actually going to have a great season. So, you know, before. So I will go back a little bit. It's basically, you know, they have a practice squad for the USA basketball. K Cunningham was killing the starting five when they were practicing and everything. He was killing. They're like, OK. Cunningham stood out like he was actually supposed to be on that squad. But he was like, yo, nah, I'm going to heal and rest. He was killing them. They say he was putting in work on Edwards. There's a little bit of footage, but you can't see everything.
00:26:23
Speaker
They deleted that. Yeah. But the same point in time is basically for this little management is basically like he is a become a rising star. He's not going to get no penalty because he's not an official all star yet. He's going to be killing and he can rest and be like, yeah, I can rest like I'm good. Yeah. So it's like. And the exception to the rules are 35 and up. Bronn. Yeah. Curry.
00:26:49
Speaker
CP three. Oh, yeah. I'm going to be 35. Yeah. Remember, he's like a year or two older than us. I forget what age I am. Yeah. Once you get past 33, I start to forget. Connally. Harden. DeRosa. DeRosa. No, DeRosa's younger than us. Barely.
00:27:09
Speaker
And Harden is younger than us. He's 34. But certain players don't have to have that or exempt from. So Bronco rests whatever he wants.
00:27:23
Speaker
Brown will be able to pull that off because he's under the exception rule. But now teams are really going to have to plan, how do I get to pull certain players from not playing certain teams? Why don't you just play them?
00:27:41
Speaker
Well, Richard Jefferson was like that. But everyone was trying to say the science, this, the science, that. But the science is inconclusive. The science sucks. Everybody's been hurt. Yeah. And guess what? A lot of the NBA players were like, yo, we didn't have that problem. We didn't have a lot. We just played. They didn't have all the people that they have in the back, like all the doctors, all the massage. Jordan never had to do that. All that extra stuff. They think years after winning a game.
00:28:12
Speaker
The most thing we saw on paper in televised like yo They drank beers after a regular season game like cracking a beer like yo, you know after getting the tape off They cracked beers. They don't do that now and it's just like they're all hurt. You know I'm saying so it's like what's going on?
00:28:30
Speaker
I think what they were talking about was the athletes aren't conditioned anymore because they're like standing around in the offseason like Kai Jones.
00:28:41
Speaker
I think he's on drugs he might be talking like I was like yo you sound I Seen a video We drafted him and then we sent them to Charlotte so I heard him speak he was he was rapping some gibberish in a video
00:29:07
Speaker
in the live. Yeah, he was going. Also, what is wrong with this dude? Say no to drugs. He off the zincies. Yeah, he's he was awesome. But the person who I feel bad the most and I'm gonna give this this one coach credit as we go as we transition to the second topic.
Joel Embiid's Playtime Debate
00:29:25
Speaker
Joel Embiid. He's someone where
00:29:30
Speaker
The issue is going to be resting versus minutes. His coach, Nick Nurse, he said we're trying, and this is his words via the USA Today, we're trying to get him to play more games. Our goal is that going up for him, not
00:29:47
Speaker
The up is going up for him, not the other direction. There's always things that can come up with stuff, but I don't know. I believe in guys playing as much as they can. And let's see what happens. Nurse told the USA Today. And B played 66 games last season and 68 in 2021-22. I'm going to give a shout out to Doc.
00:30:10
Speaker
Doc, first of all, when Doc had him, he didn't, minus the road, road injuries where that was just, you just must've been mean, there was nothing. Doc actually controlled his minutes, right? Doc controlled his health. Nick Nerds wants to run him to the ground. Here's a fun fact.
00:30:37
Speaker
Most minutes played per game by a starter. The highest was 33.8 minutes a game. That was by Toronto Raptors. Who was coaching? Nick Nurse. Second place was the Knicks. Tibbs at 32.5. Cavs, 32.4. Boston, 32.2. Blazers, 32.2. Just like Tibbs, Nick Nurse likes to go run people to the ground. But my issue is,
00:31:05
Speaker
You're about to test something on Embiid, and you know he's not that stable to do that. But you were very careful and Kawhi demanded rest.
00:31:18
Speaker
Yeah, because I remember like, I only remember Kawhi and Toronto in the playoffs. Yeah. And the finals that year. I don't remember him playing the regular season. So don't do that to Embiid. It's like, why are you doing it? Don't mess with Embiid. Why? Again. I would think they would want to rest him. Like, yo, let's get him good. Let's get a good cast that can play when he's out. And then he can rest up a little bit, especially with this stuff going on. Like, yo, you know what I'm saying?
00:31:43
Speaker
That's why I said, Doc never had that issue. Doc had other issues, but he knew how to control MB's minutes in his playing. Nah, you and Doc had issues. That's about it.
00:31:55
Speaker
I had an issue. He's on his way now. That's OK. He could come. I could always say, yo, your best years was Boston. And your second opportunity was the Clippers. And Chris Paul messed that up. That's OK. He ain't doing nothing. I can't wait till he comes to be Coach R team. I want him on R team. I want him to coach.
00:32:24
Speaker
It would be unexpected for me, but I wouldn't have no problem. I never had a problem with that.
00:32:29
Speaker
Doc had Boston, that was his perfect team. That was his perfect team. Orlando, he showed that he could coach, because he made nothing out of Orlando. He went to the perfect place for Boston, players that understood his system. He went to a young, up-and-coming team that he did like Orlando with, the Clippers.
00:32:53
Speaker
And people would just hurt, or people didn't do what they were supposed to do. And then he came to Philly, and I kept telling you, that was not the system that would work for them. I don't remember you saying it. That's OK. We can run the tape. By the way, you heard what Mr. Simmons said. He said, I am a point guard. OK, play the season. No, he says he's 100% healthy. OK.
00:33:17
Speaker
I'm waiting, but my last topic for y'all.
LeBron's PED Rumors
00:33:24
Speaker
I know we like to talk about this guy. He has something interesting, like another professional athlete in another sport, which is funny because that person would be a Hall of Famer, but we'll talk about him in a little bit.
00:33:38
Speaker
I know y'all heard the lovely rumors about LeBron taking peds. P-E-D's. That was talked about last year. Now, just randomly this week, they talked about it again. I didn't hear about it. You're hating.
00:33:53
Speaker
I hope he really never did. I'm going to proceed as though he didn't because they said the feds were on it. And they said that even though there were trainers connected to him, trainers connected to that investigation, LeBron
00:34:12
Speaker
or nor his wife ever there was no evidence that they ever did anything i just think they just want to slowly his name on that probably but i don't think it's gonna work until they until somebody admits to something but you know who did that too and this is where i'm gonna bring up baseball aris said i never did steroids and then he got busted he was like yeah but this investigation was conducted by like the fbi like
00:34:36
Speaker
The feds, bro. For years, too, they said it was like a like a 14 from 2013. Ten years. If they didn't find nothing, it ain't there. I just got the issue. Like, why are we trying to do that now? Because you got to be a billionaire.
00:35:08
Speaker
They were saying that she was a suspect but because she gets trained by the same like you know
00:35:20
Speaker
That trainer's been with Bron since the Miami days. And then everyone was trying to say, look how Bron got so swole in Miami. Yeah, look how he's a grown man, and he's not 16 anymore. Which was dumb, because it was like Bron worked out, because that was the same thing like Mello. Mello was skinny, and then he got bulky.
00:35:39
Speaker
So he was like a kid. Yeah, he was okay. Then he filled his frame out. But everyone kept trying to say it. Yeah. When he was in New York and he was Miami, they were both kind of like, yeah, they were, you know, you said they were at that age, it was like, yo, like, you know, they were like 23, 23, 24.
00:35:57
Speaker
Yeah, that's crazy. I never thought about that one. Yeah, because that's why I was like, OK, so Bron did that. You're not looking at Melo. They both were. They both were the same time by one year, but only one year. Yeah. So I was like, yo, they both that's the perfect age. Like, yo, they both were literally skinny in high school. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Wherever they were at, they were big. Now, but you could tell when when LeBron was in high school, you could tell he had a frame to fill out because he was like broad shoulders.
00:36:28
Speaker
Melo, Melo was always like, he wasn't really like the cut dude, so I could see him. I actually. He got bigger though, he didn't get like. You know what, I had somebody complain about Melo, one of Kira's friends. So what? The skinny one who got dragged up the block. Remember, she showed up to Kira's party and wanted to help her fight. Yeah. Kira said no, and she went anyway.
00:36:58
Speaker
and got torched by multiple girls. That girl, I was playing video games in my room. I was playing the one when I was playing NBA Live like 2005. And Melo was on that. She walked in my room. And I was like, OK, you've crossed the threshold. Like, what can I do? Like, what are you doing? She was like, are you playing video games?
00:37:25
Speaker
Yeah, you know what I'm saying? So she was looking, she was like, Carmelo. She was like, I don't really like Carmelo. He's not really cut and jacked to me. He's like, not muscular enough. That's what she told me. She don't watch sports, but OK. Nah, she. I don't know. Cura for her in school, too. Yeah. Ha ha.
00:37:50
Speaker
So you really think it's actually going to be over or are they going to continue this until he's gone? That probably continue it. It ain't nothing to say. If Skip Bayless don't find out about this. But now they keep saying, wow, you're getting hurt now. That's what happens when you take steroids. That's what happens when you're 40. I know that. You know that. You know that. But the media is like, man, I almost did something to my Achilles just closing the back of my van the other day.
00:38:20
Speaker
My work man. Yeah, it was God was like, yo, what is it? Like my life? I do not have time for that. Yo, this one right here. I step back. You know, we step on uneven ground. I was like, oh, everything. Oh, what is it? That's so raving thing. Oh, you saw a vision. Yeah, I saw the Lord, Brad.
00:38:45
Speaker
I saw the Lord. I saw I saw everybody. I can't get it shut down right now. Yes. I was going to say real to real. And I cut this episode off. YouTube is going to take us off. Twitch is going to destroy us. We're going to have to say something to Kyrie. No. Now they're probably going to talk about this until like
00:39:08
Speaker
you know, things die down with Bronner, like, oh, let's bring this back up. Like, whenever he retires or like, let's bring this back up, huh? Or if he gets hurt again. Or if he wins, they'll say something like this. But you know who I do think might have took steroids? AD. That man's made out of glass. Yeah. That man. I remember seeing something where he came down with a rebound. The first game. Like, broke his ribs.
Episode Wrap-Up & Anecdotes
00:39:33
Speaker
The first game. Last year, the first game.
00:39:36
Speaker
He fell on the ground, he was holding his back. First game of the season. Plus, here's my thing. If he really did take steroids, I'm pretty sure someone would have snitched and he would have had to pay. Someone would have snitched. We're going to find out when I start taking steroids. You know what I'm saying? All right. I'll start taking them before this podcast. You got them?
00:40:03
Speaker
Send this on. I'm sure we can find him. Ayo. This is NBA Hoop Mania, hosted by the group Friends vs. Friends. We outta here. Peace. Peace.