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Victor Wembanyama's NBA Introduction
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The End
Pizza and Wings Fiasco
00:00:23
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What's up? This is Friends versus Friends. What's good with y'all? I got your host JT here. We got Statman to the left and we got KB to the right of me. What's good with y'all? How y'all feeling today? It's Friday. I'm a little hungry. You got the munchies, bro. We're not doing dominoes, I hope. You know dominoes and that's my stomach though. Oh, we had pizza last episode. What happened? We stopped that tradition. No, no, no. Let me tell you something. We had the most nastiest wings. When?
00:00:50
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Last week. Right before you showed up? Yeah. A couple hours before we were watching Rick and Morty class. I ordered Domino's.
00:00:59
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and the wings was bad. Now, I blame me for that. Wait, y'all ordered more food? Nah. Like, we had the crib. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And we were just like, yo. I got you. We were just like, yo. We were getting wings because my wife can't have spicy, so we did garlic par. And that was the nastiest way. Well, you had bad wings all day, because at the other place, you had bad wings too.
00:01:22
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Oh, so you batting 1,000. He had terrible wings. He ain't saying that to me. No, the pizza was ass. But that one of my pieces, the wings was like, all right. Oh, really? But you remember, I showed you that one wing. Yeah. Was it better than Domino's? And it had a meat on it. It looked like the size of a double A battery all burnt up. Also waited like 35 minutes. I was like, what is it? It was a vegan chicken.
00:01:50
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They made me wait like 35 minutes for it, too. Yeah, he was in line. He was tight, because I showed up late. He was like, yo, I just got my food. Because he was, it sounded like he was bragging. He's like, yo, I'm in line already. I'm ordering food. I'm like, all right. That's all I said. No, I mean, like, I'm on my job. I get hungry. Yeah, he be on it. He be on it.
LeBron's Return: Social Media Reactions
00:02:10
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But what's good, we got the NBA world, we got the all season, we got a lot of things to discuss about. Start with news and rumors, we got that. And we should all be happy. LeBron James confirmed he's playing in 22-23 season. Surprise. Oh yeah, he is coming back.
00:02:29
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I like how he said it, basically at the ESPY award. Yeah, that was lit. ESPY was good. Yeah, and then he brought up his boy CP3. He brought up Mello. He brought up Wayne. The fam. The whole family came up. Someone posted it. It was like, yo, out of all of those, like, over 111,000 points scored combined with all of those players. That's a lot.
00:02:54
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The funny thing about him coming back was yo the Twitter was Twitter was wild but we all know like boo go home even yard so I posted it join on our brand page on the IG and everything and Everybody was like yo
00:03:11
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Yo, go home, we don't want you. La bum, la brick. They were like, dah, I was like, dah. I knew people hated him in some point, because I respect the man's game. But I'm just like, yo, they really just, I'm like, I was hyped he was coming back. I was like, that's good. We all knew that. He wasn't going to retire. Nah.
Knicks' Trade Strategies
00:03:28
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You know what has to happen before he retires? Of course. That's why it's going to be another six years. But there was haters really were like, oh, he's really doing it. We're like, no. Because we all knew as basketball heads. I never even considered. Exactly.
00:03:40
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I didn't even pay attention to. So like he did his own little speech again. So he kind of had his own stage again. It's like three times he's done this. He had this all script up the whole season. I'm going to say I'm going to retire. It was in a script. It was an NBA script. It was like how they say the NFL and the NBA have scripts. Yeah, it was in there. This one was in there for sure. Adrian Foster said that. But another news and rumors. We'll talk about our favorite team. The Knicks are really trying hard to trade Evan Fournier. Bye.
00:04:28
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I just thought he needed to find his rhythm, but then he just got benched up. Like, they just gave up on him. Tibbs did. Yeah, Tibbs, he is. Tibbs does what he does best. Now, you're going to like this. What's up? The Spurs, I mean, not the Spurs. The Suns are exploring a trade. They're trying to trade Cameron Payne for a different point guard. Why would you say I like that? Because you don't want Payne to get a point guard. I like it. I'm not going to lie. Corey whooped my ass with the, um,
00:04:33
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I feel bad for the guy.
00:04:56
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with the Suns? No, with the Bucks and I had... The Suns? No, I won with the Suns and then he was like, let's press random three times. I got an all-star team and he got a regular team. So he started making up different rules. I was like, whatever, I'll pick the first regular team I get. I forgot who I played with.
00:05:16
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but he beat me with the Bucks and whatever, scrub team. And this nigga was celebrating and doing all this stuff. So, Cameron Payne, every time the first team came off the bench, I wasn't scoring anything. He's annoying on 2K. He's annoying on 2K? He is. Just as TJ McConnell.
00:05:38
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Bro, that's a downgrade. I know. But I wouldn't even, I mean, I was just upset about the fact that you were saying campaigns should start. I'm like, I didn't say he should. I said that's your, that's the only point guard they got. Who's there? Who's there? A legit point guard. Wait, now I'm, now they're trying to get rid of him. I'm like, no, that's stupid. Don't get rid of him. That's the backup. If anything, I thought they were going to do John Wall. I would start John Wall over, bruh.
00:06:01
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or even flip whoever's ever playing well. They actually, and he's been out the league for a couple years, do y'all remember Darren Carlson? Carlson, he was nice on the Pacers, right? Yeah, the last time he played with was with the Lakers and then he quit because he wanted to continue his religious faith as your witness.
00:06:24
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No, he was just in love with his religion. He wanted to go on his missionary trips. That's crazy because he could have been bothering people in every city in the United States. Locking on doors. Listen, I'm telling you this. I told everybody y'all didn't believe me. During the pandemic, they were calling people.
00:06:48
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I got, instead of going door to door, I started calling people. And look, mine's name was Paul. I had my own Jehovah Witness assigned to me. Did you like communicate? I talked to Paul.
00:07:07
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You took the call? Yeah, because I couldn't believe it. I was like, how can I help you, Paul? He said he was Joel's witness. I was like, they not even knocking door to door, now they're calling people. Pandemics, they try to be safe. They're calling people. They're on a whole call center with it. Watch. With all the AI, they're going to start sending drones. They're going right to your house first. What's your address again? I'm about to fake everything. 1-800-not-my-house.
00:07:35
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Go to that one. All right. All right. A positive note. Because we all heard the news, Dane finally wanted to get traded.
Damian Lillard Trade Rumors
00:07:49
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Thank you, bro. He really wants to go. I feel like that's a good move. He shouldn't have been saying it the whole career though.
00:07:57
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They never gave you anybody. Yeah, he read Nick. Big time. Yeah. He read Nick. We're gonna go deeper into that, but. Nah. You gotta start over, bro. You read Nick on that one big time, bro. There's rumors that they're, that's our first topic of the night, but we'll talk about that. In a four-team trade, because they're saying it's not gonna be a straight one-team trade. Yeah. They're saying the Jazz are interested in being part of that trade, and they wanna go get Tyler Harrell.
00:08:27
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Yeah. I see my tie here is down. He's like, all right, whatever. You know, you haven't heard anything from him, like.
00:08:35
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He unfollowed and that's all I heard. He unfollowed everybody and I think he's, he just has his, no personal. The move is in motion. Yeah, anytime a player does that, like nine times, I would say the team is already doing, bye, bye. Like ages are really like, yo. Are really working to move you. No matter what, if it's for Dame or not, they're already really working. Like, yo, you are going to be moving, so be ready.
00:08:58
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So yeah. A very happy moment for year 24.
Kobe on NBA 2K24 Cover Excitement
00:09:03
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Kobe Bryant's face is going to be the cover of 2K. Yes. I really love that. I'm buying it this year. I'm pre-ordering. Trying to get all the extra 2K packs I can get, bro. All the extra points I can get, bro.
00:09:17
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When does that usually come out? September is going to come out early September, but if you pre-order now, you get all the extra stuff. They better do it like on the 8th or the 24th of September. On the day of Kobe's numbers. I think it is the 8th. All right, cool. I think it is early. Perfect. That's good. Honestly. Word, word, word. 24, that's too late, bro. Whatever. It's got to be his number. She got 824. There you go. August 24th. Which also happens to be my godson's birthday, the first one.
00:09:46
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The OG first game. A sad thing, even though it's good for Chicago, the Bulls were granted a $10.2 million disabled player exception because of Lonzo Ball. Rumor says he ain't playing this season. He's done. He's done. And as I always said, who's
00:10:05
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Is his injury equal to Penny or D Rose? Well D Rose is the who rose and they say D Rose is gonna effective. Yeah, D Rose is, they say D Rose when he goes to Memphis, he's actually gonna. From what I'm hearing, the dude can't run. Not even that. He can't go upstairs. They said that hurts. How? He can't go upstairs. He can't go. I heard that last year.
00:10:30
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But they brought it up again Dance and everything he he had resorts and everything he going upstairs He can go upstairs the idiot who did that remember Andrew Bynum, but that's what he's doing He's yo, he got mad videos. I just don't think I really don't see posting I really don't think he can enjoy probably doing I don't think she get cut well I think he's trying to be relevant why I
00:10:56
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because when he's done, he's done, they're gonna have to move him. He can't play basketball. If he is done, he's still good, bro. He signed a four or five year, $85 million. His money is good. His money was straight before that. Not even that. You know how most of the NBA players have our podcasts now or something afterwards.
00:11:16
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Yo, he already started. No, he already his dad already started him with something afterwards, bro. That whole brand, all they got to do is go back on TV. They had a whole TV show that was popping. Everybody's watching. You can't tell me you weren't following up on that and watching that joint. All he has to do is his side of everything. I watched it. Exactly. So that's all he has to do. He said he's good. I mean, I would rather want him the ball again. But still, he's good. He was so good, bro.
00:11:43
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He was nice, you know what I'm saying? His shot had improved and right when he did that, he... There was only one incident I was like, and this is when LaMelo was like way younger and wasn't like, you know, he was all goofy when I was like, oh, he is the best one. Now LaMelo... He told me that for years. Yeah. He told me that. Lonzo was always dirty in high school, always. Now LaMelo did his thing too, but at one point it was like, yo, Lonzo was that guy, especially
00:12:08
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after he went to UCLA and then his summer league in L.A. Oh, my. Yo, that that team was 30, bro. So I was like, yo, he's going to be the one no matter what. And I thought follow up. LaMelo was just going to be like not now. I didn't think he was going to be trash. And I was just like, he's going to follow his brother's footsteps of how good he was going to be. But it's just the way they play. It's almost the same thing like Bronnie and Bryce.
00:12:32
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The first born son plays the game the right way. He's a point guard, real point guard. And the second one's just a wild scorer like everybody does now. He has the explosion of his daddy. Bryce is gonna be a problem. Bryce, he's taller. Yeah, he's bigger. I mean, Bronny's a crazy athlete too.
Lonzo Ball's Injury and Future with Bulls
00:12:51
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Six, four. Oh yeah. And people think, what is Bryce right now? People think he's gonna be just the same. Six, seven. They say he's gonna be the same height as his dad.
00:12:57
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I don't think Bronny's gonna be done growing though. I think he gonna still get up there. I think he's gonna end up being 6'6", but he's a really tough point guard I think. He's gonna be dirty if he gets to 6'6". I mean, he already is gonna be nice, but if he... He's that shooter already. He has that same... He's gonna grow into another frame, like he'll be solid. They projecting to be a mid first round pick. Not a lottery pick anymore. Now they're projecting to be at least a first round pick.
00:13:25
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At one time, they thought his sophomore year when he got hurt, they were projecting to be a second rounder. And then he got good after the injury. And they were like, OK. Then this past year, his senior year, they were like, OK, you're going to be a first. I hope he averages 26 this year. I hope so. I'm watching that.
00:13:43
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Like, how does that work? Like, that's not the first time it's ever happened. Like, yo, we have this player on our team. No, many times. It's happening many times. Yeah. So it's good. But why are they making it so big? Because it's Lonzo? No, it's based off. It's the base of a percentage of the person's contract. So it depends on. So let's just say... So Lonzo lost money? No, he didn't lose money. They just got to disable exception, which means up to 10.2 million dollars. They can go sign. They can trade for a player for that amount.
00:14:10
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because he was technically on the roster spot so now he's not on the roster spot technically anymore. So that they don't get left holding the bag as bad. Gotcha. And but God forbid, Lonzo comes back and they haven't used that 10.2 million dollar disabled exception, they lose it. But since we already know Lonzo's basically out again for another year. Man, he gonna make a comeback, make y'all look stupid. I hope he does. We all wanted him to. I want him to be successful. I thought he was gonna be the next J Kid.
00:14:38
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It was Jabron that hated Ormanza. Yeah, Jeeves was like, you know what? If he was a sixer, he would. Another rumor.
James Harden's Trade Scenarios
00:14:47
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What's up? What's up? James Harden. Yo, where is he going? Like, what? I'm lost with a James Harden. He's going to jazz. Last time I heard is Joel. Joel wants him to come back. Yeah, he's like, yo, do you want to come back? Like, we can talk this over. I'm like, y'all really want to do this again?
00:15:04
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I lose a little respect for him because remember he didn't want to, he wanted to be ill. Yeah, he wanted to be ill. So why do you want someone that you didn't want? And now he's already saying that he don't want to be here. The reason why Harder was the way he was, he's mad that they couldn't get an extension done. And now that he's in his feelings, now
00:15:27
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We already seen what Houston's done. Yeah. There's a few teams that are interested in him. Someone said Dallas. I was like, Dallas ain't happening. Kyrie would look at him and be like, Kyrie, you want this again. So you came back and you want to get toasted up again one on one. He would get fried. There was there was an interest of the Clippers. There was a rumor about the Lakers. There was a sad rumor about the Knicks. We knew that.
00:15:57
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I would only do it if we could trade Randall away.
00:16:00
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get Randall out, and then there was the real interest in Phoenix, but the whole B.O. situation, that means they would probably have to trade Aten plus whatever they had to do to go get him. I'm trying to figure out who benefits from James Harden suddenly being on the team. Can the Pacers do it? I don't even know. I haven't seen the Pacers play one game all year.
00:16:29
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Really? You haven't watched the Pacers, bro? Not the Pacers, no. I won't watch them now, because I'm mad, because what happened? No, I'm going to watch them. The next straight to Obie. No, I'm going to watch them. I think Obie going to be straight. Obie going to turn up. Yeah, that's why I'm going to watch them. No, I can't, because I'm going to be like, that was our player. We couldn't put him in there. We couldn't put him in nowhere. I told you to trade. On our first season, I said, Randall got to go.
00:16:51
Speaker
Tibbs didn't listen. Tibbs is gonna get himself fired, but that's okay. And then we're gonna be stuck with his roster, then they're gonna hire the next dude and the next team. They're still gonna do that. I think they're still gonna do that. The rumor is, and this is straight out of Steven A Smith, he really wants them to go sign Ty Lou. I'm not mad at that. All I'm saying is I hope they don't cut the team that we've been waiting on to see. I don't think they'll do that. Leon Rose, he's the first
00:17:18
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President of Best Preparations, that actually is methodical. When we wanted, when, I didn't want it, but when people wanted us to go get Mitchell, everyone wanted him to trade everybody. He didn't do that. I think he's actually wanted to, I think he's not as good as,
00:17:37
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Golden State when it comes to making decisions but I think he's making calculator moves where he knows he can't mess up because if he does it's gonna wreck the deck. I think he's keeping some type of chemistry like you know other paths they're like getting rid of
00:17:52
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the coach didn't get rid of the players he's keeping something that's stable of a chemistry like all right i'm not gonna get rid of my players i'm gonna still keep building which i've like we've been doing for a couple seasons now i'm like yo we haven't gotten rid of anybody's like if it's working got us here let's just add on and build and work around this
00:18:10
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But I do think tips is probably gonna go, sooner or later. It'll be cool if we get Tyloo and Doc somehow. That'll be crazy. I already said, gladly take Doc, but good. Nah, stop lying. He don't even like Doc Rivers. Doc can come. He doesn't like Doc Rivers. I'll tell you what, we start getting to that level where we can actually get in the rooms with these dudes. There's a couple people that I really hope haven't been watching our earlier episodes.
00:18:35
Speaker
Many of them, however the Knicks. I had many times that Doc could come to the Knicks. I just said it wasn't for the Sixers. We're only going to play the one clip. And you're going to be in the same elevator. That's fine. Wait, can you speak like Doc to his raspy voice? No. He's like, where is he? I can't do it. Where's that man? That guy. Doc. I can't do it. Doc, I'll be like, look.
00:19:00
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If you can make it the way Boston. I'm gonna start recording. Yeah, you're right. He was afraid to say it to his friends. This guy. All right, last rumor. This is like, just a fun fact. Grizzlies hire Anthony Carter as their assistant coach for the Grizzlies. There was something special about Anthony Carter. He played for the next years later, but we almost traded for him for what player? I'll just say this. He was a scrub.
00:19:29
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and he became a decent player. I was about to see something random, like Antonio McDice. No, he was dead and gone. Who was it? Jeremy Lee. I mean, that's your odd. Len. Len Santa, yeah. We were about to, and he found out he was about to get traded. There was like a night before they were telling like, yo, we are really about to go trade for Anthony Carter.
00:19:53
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point guards on the bench, like deep on the bench. And he doesn't like, I gotta find the recorder. He was like, he was so sad. He said a prayer. And then, it was funny. That was the game. That was the day before Linsanity ever happened. And they were so happy. They were so happy they didn't do the trade.
00:20:13
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He must've been like, oh my God. God was like, I know. Let me make a phone call. I heard you, I heard the voice my whole time. Put the wash on that, yo. Got to think about like, dang, I didn't even wanna. So, Lynn Saturday would have never happened if we had traded for Anthony Carter. That's a little fun fact. All right, topic. We're gonna talk about these two people. First is the reaction.
00:20:40
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of Dane wanting to leave Portland. And another topic is how everyone feels about Victor. So isn't that two topics? No, it's the reaction. This topic is called reaction. The reaction? The reaction of these two people.
00:20:56
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What's your reaction about Dame and Victor Wenbanyama? Wenbanyama. Why aren't y'all calling him Wenby? Everybody's calling him that. I'm trying to say Wenbanyama. All right, spelling bee, Chance. What's up with y'all reactions? He won in fourth grade, guys. Hey. It was like third and fifth grade. You know how they do that. He was there. He was that guy.
00:21:20
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That work. What are y'all reactions? So Vic, I ain't gonna lie. Me and this guy watched his first game. It wasn't good. He just looked really off. Yeah, he looked, I don't even want to say scared. It looked like he was trying to catch up to something. You know, he was really off rhythm.
00:21:38
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And that's what I said. I said, it looks crazy right now, but I want to see what happens when he actually is on point. Because you can see even when he was taking open shots, it looked like he was off, like he was thinking about the shot. I think the pressure got to him. Well, it didn't the second time he played. You're right, you're right.
00:21:59
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Both games he played 27 minutes. First game was two for 13 from field goal. One for six from three point land, four for four from free throws, eight rebounds. Now the eight rebounds don't look attracted to me because they were not any offensive rebounds. Defense was cool. He was never available in the post. He could never get offensive rebounds. That's what I was going to say. His first game is like his in paint action. I was like, dad, he can't get busy in there. Look how big he is. And he got yammed on.
00:22:27
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Oh yeah. He got handled. That clip is crazy. By the way, we drafted him. I know. And then we traded him. Yeah and then we traded him.
00:22:35
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But yeah, that, I was like, dad. I think when he did that, you were like, I think you got up and left. You're like, yeah. No, no, no. You still stayed. Cause that's when, um, the ball champagne who I've been following in summer league, he didn't drop him buckets. He just got a new contract on the other end. He deserved it. He deserved it. He had two, like, or actually not two, I think he had three 30 point games. He was balling.
00:22:58
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But a second game, oh, then he had three assists and five blocks. The second game, nine for 14 for field goals, two for four from three-point land, seven for 12 from free throws, 12 rebounds, one steal, three blocks. Yeah, that's when you start to see where he can be in the league. Like, I'm sure his body will still have to adjust, but... He gotta get stronger. He fell down five times in the first game. Yeah. I think it was...
00:23:25
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The game speed, like the game speed is more physical. Obviously it's our game. Our game is more physical. Wait, I'm gonna stop you right there. He said it's physical in Europe. No, he said it's more physical in Europe than in the NBA. You know, you know, the NBA is going to whoop his ass. Like you said, he fell on the ground and a lot of times he was like, I'm like, dude,
00:23:47
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You're acting like you're a big man. Why you got the ball down low? Like, yo, go up here. You have the ball. Why aren't you up here with it? Nobody's touching you. And he was on the ground looking like, bro, what are you looking at? Like, get up. Five times. Get up, bro. But yeah, like, I just think the game speed, like you said, he wasn't adjusting. I think he had to adjust to that. Because the second game, it was pretty smooth. I'll give him that. I think Pop told him, like, yo, I didn't sign a five-year extension to coach this.
00:24:16
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Pop had to know what was going on cause cause he watched the two games. Oh, he was sitting there. He was there. He probably already knew he was going to like, all right, not flop, but like, he did flop, but I don't think pops that he's going to fly. He's like, let's just see how he adjusted this. Cause I don't even think
00:24:34
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The EuroLeague players to our league, it hasn't been like the only player that I remember that did it phenomenally was Luca. That's the only player recently. Joker wasn't even like that off the bat, bro. Remember Dante Exum?
00:24:49
Speaker
Oh god. He just got re-signed. That was terrible. He just got re-signed and now he just signed with Dallas. Yeah. But even going back to that, even Manu wasn't that ill off the bat. Manu was ill. I don't even know. Nobody come from that. Manu was ill. He was my dude. But he wasn't crazy off the bat. Dirk wasn't crazy off the bat. The only player from Europe off the back that was nice like that recently. Even Giannis wasn't that great.
00:25:15
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Even honest that recently though was Luca like in his bag ready like no, you're forgetting about one cuz he actually trying to save Tony coo coach No, cuz he didn't really play in the summer league. No, we forget in person. I'm just boom. He came right in he huh KP
00:25:33
Speaker
What KP? He wasn't dirty off the rip either. He was pretty good. He was pretty good, but he was fragile. He was fragile. Yeah, but he put in work in the summer league, which made people was like, okay, he's not no scrub. Yeah. None of us wanted him to come to the Knicks. I know who he was really. No, but I don't remember anything of him. Nah, my one boy.
00:25:57
Speaker
When Porzingis was 16 years old, him and I were cool. He actually had a picture of Porzingis when he was 16 years old. He was like, yo, if the Knicks can get lucky to get him one day, he's going to be a star. This guy? Really? Yeah. He was like, if we can get him one day, he's going to be a star. Too bad they didn't have fan duel back then. He would have been.
00:26:16
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Oh, he with a cape. He with a cape. And he's a die-hard neck fan. We got to go back in the stats and just see how KP did his first year compared to Luca did. Not even Summer League. I'm going to say just his rookie year. We can do Summer League. Let's do Summer League, because we're talking about Summer League. We'll do Summer League, and then his rookie year, how Luca did. Because I feel like maybe those are the two best comparisons. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I'm saying, like, those two Europeans? Yeah, let's do that. Those two Europeans came in, and it was like, OK, we understand why you were drafted that high. Yeah.
00:26:44
Speaker
but because then we can go back and say like yo like if he was that dirty we're like did KP even play the full joint i don't remember no he didn't he was always getting hurt see but i was saying oh he was getting hurt yeah but at least when he played he was effective unlike his show didn't look like oh yeah he no i don't even know why he had a kid a bad motor i just remember him being like a little bit slow coming back um up the court and then like it's a little fragile for that big but
00:27:13
Speaker
Not conditioned. But he could score. That was the funny thing. You know when he was tired, he turned red. Super red. You couldn't leave him on the outside, because he was dropping that three. That's why I was saying, he was a European. Very top. He was a European who you could say first year, OK, if he could stay healthy, he was a dangerous player. Yeah. Then he didn't stay healthy. He's not even on a team no more. I actually remember a status I wrote that said,
00:27:41
Speaker
If they ever trade this dude, I'ma be a Raptors fan. Yeah, you did. You know we could've... Yo, you know his rookie, after rookie senior, Boston wanted to trade us three first round picks for him.
00:28:00
Speaker
The funny thing about one of those three first round picks, it was actually gonna be that Brooklyn one that turned into the first pick overall, which turned into... James Tatum? For Tatum, but remember the whole faults was the first pick overall. We could have actually had either faults, or the reality would have been Tatum.
00:28:23
Speaker
if we had traded Prince Zingas to Boston. But Phil almost did it. But Jim Dolan didn't want that. You know, he always makes the really, really wise decision. So what's our next reaction?
Dame's Miami Trade Push
00:28:41
Speaker
Dang. Dang. Dang. Like, I would just say he reneged. I'm happy for him, but he reneged like. Too little too late. You reneged. Yeah, too little too late. He reneged early. He gonna try to make a little run.
00:28:53
Speaker
But this is what I was hearing. Most of the talking, you haven't really heard Dame say anything that much. He's done the subliminal nonsense like when he played Welcome to Miami. I actually was watching his story on IG. But the thing is, his age has been talking.
00:29:12
Speaker
so much to the media. It's been him really doing it. Not Dane. So my question is, is Dane really wants to leave? Or is Agent tired of him losing so much in Portland? Because his agent was like, oh yeah, we're not doing nothing but Miami, bro. He's not taking that. I don't know why you guys are like,
00:29:29
Speaker
He is vocal pointed, which he probably says is the agent. But usually in this game, in this age, we see at least a person getting tweeted, I mean, getting traded, I'm sorry, tweet or put anything out there. You know, actually putting his stuff out there is like, oh, I'm ready. Or like he would have palm trees up. You know what I'm saying? Or something like, yeah. I don't think it's, I don't really think Dane wants to lead. I think his agent's like, yo, your clock for a championship. You about to end up like Chris Paul.
00:29:57
Speaker
He's still gonna end up like Chris Paul. That's low-key dirty. He's still gonna end up like Chris Paul. You think so? Do you think they're gonna win? No, I think what he will do at the end of his career, I think he might do what Mello did a little bit. Granny, he wanted to play with Brian. Come off the bench? No, not come off the bench like that, meaning he'll go try to play for a playoff contending team.
00:30:24
Speaker
Like remember, Melo almost signed with Boston the year they went to the finals, but they took Blake Griffin over him, which was such a dumb move. That was a dumb move. Yeah, that was crazy. Boston could have had a better chance of beating Golden State. I would have been pissed to see him in that green jersey, but I'm like, yo, if you were close, if you were to get close, you got there, bro.
00:31:00
Speaker
They need, didn't they pick up a big man? They picked up somebody. They drafted a boy, he's 6'8 from UCLA. No, they recently just picked up somebody, not in the draft, somebody, another big man. I think he's probably gonna be a... Oh, what you gonna call it? Yeah, Thomas from Denver. Yes, that could help out. I don't care what you don't say, that could probably help out. He tears his ACL up the other year, so I don't know about that. Damn, but still, at the end of the day, I think something will happen. They're like, yo, it's not gonna work. I'm like, why wouldn't it work?
00:31:07
Speaker
he would have had the better chance.
00:31:30
Speaker
You got interior, you got mid-range, and you got all the way out in the deep ocean shooting. Like, you can't hit no aspect. But then you still got Boston you gotta worry about. You still gotta worry about the Bucks. You still gotta worry about... Who guarding Dame from Boston? They got rid of Marcus Smirt. Which was such a dumb move. The Grizzlies won that trade for sure. Oh yeah. And that's the second time they actually got a lockdown defender. Who was the first one that they got from Boston?
00:31:59
Speaker
And they cracked. That's right. Tony Island. And Tony Island also went to the same school as... I don't even know where he went. What's up? Marcus Mark? Yeah, went to Oklahoma State too. Oh, you did? Okay. Both of them. That. Yeah, so they've been eyeing up Marcus for years. Personally, I really just feel like Dame shouldn't go to the West.
00:32:25
Speaker
I don't see a team that can make it work. Miami has to gut that team. They're going to have to gut it because Portland doesn't want the players that Miami is willing to offer. They don't want Tyler Herro.
00:32:40
Speaker
That, why not? Because they got Scoop, they got Sharp, they got Anthony Simmons. Oh, dang. They got a lot of shooting guards, small forwards. Why are you adding another person? Yeah. So again, they're like, we're not. Maybe a three team, a third team. Yeah, three four teams. That's what the rumors been. So the agent has said, it's going to be some time. We're going to have to wait. Well, now he's going to get there and do what?
00:33:10
Speaker
Uh, you better hope he does something. It's got nothing to do with me. If you want the Boston, what you think will happen? Boston? Yeah. That was rumored too, wasn't it? Yeah, but he said he don't like Boston. I don't like Boston either. He had a list. He had four teams. It was Boston. Someone said Boston, but he said not Boston. Miami.
00:33:37
Speaker
The Brooklyn Nets, right? The Brooklyn Nets. And then I feel like it was a West team. Don't quote me. I think it might have been before the trade happened, was Phoenix. Well, Phoenix have worked better. Yeah. Yeah. That's like straight plug-in. Yeah. Yeah. You could have traded CP3, Dame, plus whatever additional that you have to do for the cap.
00:34:04
Speaker
and it would have been a better situation for Booker and KD and Aten. All of them would have elevated with Dame. Still would have been in that situation that was taking the last shot though.
00:34:19
Speaker
That's KD's team. Yeah, KD. That's KD's team. Booker lost that opportunity when KD got to that team. And when they came out with his sneakers last week. Oh. Terrible. Your overview overall. What's your rating on that sneak? They suck. Book sneakers are trash. They could have just not came out with sneakers. But like, they don't look like hoop sneakers, do they? They look like casual kicks.
00:34:50
Speaker
Do you think he's hooping in those? I hope not. I don't want to see them anywhere, yo. Were they leather, or what material was that? No, they look kind of suede. Yeah, OK, suede, suede, suede. Whatever that is.
00:35:08
Speaker
I don't know, nobody do that. Unless they come out with different colorways and even then it's like... Still not recommended. Still not recommended. It's like an air pegasus basketball sneaker. What's up with everybody with the super low cut ball kicks? People want ankle injuries. They don't care about that. People put on some groceries when they come out.
00:35:29
Speaker
Somebody will. Oh, everybody's gonna do that. When they're dropping again? But I'm saying they said September 1st. Yeah. Or at September 1st or this fall they were gonna drop. But then the real colorway, the one that everybody wants and you know which one they are, is dropping this month at some point and they won't say it.
00:35:48
Speaker
It's gonna be crazy. It's gonna be exclusive. You ready for it? My credit card's ready. I'm about to piss my entire family off. Just in time for school shopping. I don't care. I don't care, yo. But since you're excited so much, we have to talk about something that's exciting. And we're gonna play this clip, because this person is super excited. And I want to know if all of y'all are excited. Japon played this clip. If you be so kind.
New NBA In-Season Tournament Explained
00:36:24
Speaker
All right, everybody. The NBA first ever in-season tournament is now official. But how does it work? Like this. First up is group play. All 30 teams will be split into six groups. Three from the East, three from the West. With a random draw based on last year's regular season records. Each team in a group plays each other one time. A total of four games, two at home, two on the road. One, two, three.
00:36:51
Speaker
Now, those games happen Tuesdays and Fridays in November, so set your calendar. Basically, these regular season NBA games also count as tournament games. Now, in each group, the team with the best group play record after those four games, they're moving on. The team with the next best record in each conference, those two are the wildcards. Always watch out for the wildcards. Now, we get to the knockout round.
00:37:16
Speaker
Eight teams, single elimination, and you know what that means. Win and move on. Our lose.
00:37:25
Speaker
And you're out. And the last four teams standing, guess what? You're headed to Vegas, baby. That's right. In Las Vegas, the semifinal battles will get us to the championship game on December 9th. Two teams in a winner-take-all final to be named champion and be awarded the first ever NBA Cup. Come on now. Look, there's a lot to look forward to this season. Players on new teams, rookies new to the league, and teams just looking to make some noise.
00:37:54
Speaker
And the NBA end season tournament is going to be a can't miss, must see, high stakes, high level competition. And if you're a hoops head just like me, I promise you, you're gonna love it. All right, I'm not as energetic as Richard Jefferson. I see Kyle's face looking at the whole thing. He's not as energetic as Richard Jefferson.
00:38:20
Speaker
How do y'all feel? He sold that job. Yeah, he did. He sold it really well. So I was like, oh, snap. You know that man works for that company who made him new. Wait, so just give me an overview of your language, man. Let me hear it in the homies' words. Yeah, because I've seen the video like four times. I'm still trying to look like, why is this? Right, right. It still seems pointless to me. It's not exciting. There are.
00:38:50
Speaker
Six groups. Three for the East, three for the West. Winners of each group go to the next round. However, they have a wild card, basically who will go against one of the other groups in the next round. And then the final four groups from East and West
00:39:17
Speaker
go to Las Vegas to go get the first ever end season tournament championship. And it starts November 3rd.
00:39:34
Speaker
And ends December 7th or 9th, one of those two. I think the only cool thing about that is we get to see them in Las Vegas. Because that's going to be the start of building a fan base over there. Because there's going to be a team over there sooner or later. And there's an elimination. And I was like, that's the only cool thing I can see about it. That's a waste of time.
00:40:06
Speaker
Okay, we know that NBA is kind of sticking their hand, like just keeping me at arm's length, which is fine. He was like, stop doing that bullshit. He literally said, stop doing that bullshit that we know you're doing. It was funny. I still, I still, I still mess with Cube's league, yo. Shout out Cube.
00:40:09
Speaker
nobody cares.
00:40:27
Speaker
I'm gonna buy a jersey. Yo, I love Cubes for the culture for real, for real. Triple OG in the culture. So like I said, there's three groups. Group A, B, C for the west and the east. First group, group A for the west is Memphis, Phoenix, Lakers, Utah, Portland. Group B is Denver, the Lakers, I mean the Clippers, the Pelicans, Dallas, Houston.
00:40:55
Speaker
Group C is Sacramento Kings, the Warriors, Minnesota, Thunder, and the Spurs. The East, Group A, Sixers, Cavs, Hawks, Pacers, Detroit. Group B is the Bucks, the Knicks, the Heat, the Wizards, the Hornets. Group C, Celtics, Nets, Raptors, Bulls, Orlando.
00:41:24
Speaker
That six just got it made over there, bro. It seems like they might make it. They get their squad together. What squad? That's exactly. They get their squad together. That's going to be it. I feel like that whole group is a wild card. The only team that I can see doing well outside of in group A for the East is the Cavs. Yeah, Cavs. Atlanta's bipolar. The Pacers are young. Detroit. Monty got some work to do over there.
00:41:54
Speaker
He got some young guns though, but yeah, yeah, yeah, he got some work. Group B's, the Knicks is in there. You know the Bucks are winning that, because it's the Bucks, the Knicks, the Heat, the Wizards, and Charlotte. Yeah, that's a tough one. Watch the Wizards win. What? Do you, like, yo, Adam Silver is so in love with trying to do this. He really wanted to do it during the bubble. I don't know what this dude's problem is. I don't get it. He wants to copy the, how the, uh, the Euro league does. And nobody watches that. So why is he trying to do that?
00:42:23
Speaker
You know what, I'd rap man. Over there they like tournament play and it brings them mad bread though. We're not from Europe. But no, but believe it or not, that's where a lot of the scouts in the NBA be looking at those tournaments. That's how they'll find a Joker. That's where they'll find a Luca. So go scout the players, but you don't do the tournament over here. What's next, soccer? Let's not do that. What I think what he's trying to do is he's trying to entice the Europeans and say, yo, we're trying to be like, y'all come more to the NBA.
00:42:52
Speaker
Oh, it's like how we have like come out of high school, go to the GV right away instead of going to college. So you can do your thing over there, maybe play one year over there and then you can bounce over here because it's going to be the scene that you have over here. It's like a smoother adjuster. Yeah. I got a question. I got a question for y'all. No matter that. What are y'all going to watch instead of watching that playing tournament? I want to watch the HBCU hockey team.
00:43:19
Speaker
Yo, shout out. Yeah. Yeah. Who is it? Tennessee State. Tennessee State. Yeah. Tennessee State. I got to give me a jersey. My cousin that plays hockey and he played. He's going there. No, no, he's already graduating everything. Oh, damn. I know he mad. Yo, he is. But he's a coach right now. He played LaSalle. He's dirty. Like, he was nice. Nice, nice, nice. I didn't know that. Yeah, yeah. So he was dirty. He was just like, yo, this is the biggest thing. He actually wants to jump in to actually do that coaching. Then he should coach. Yeah.
00:43:49
Speaker
He should, he's actually, he's one back to back, like, in his, the teams he's coached. So he's dirty, he's doing his thing. Shout out to Brian, yo. You already know. So make it happen.
Scottie Pippen's Career Complaints
00:44:00
Speaker
Yep. We're gonna end this episode talking about our good friend, Scottie Pippen. And the disrespect of him making it sound like no one cared about his feelings. No one made sure he was happy with things. Jabron, if you'd be so kind, play this clip.
00:44:24
Speaker
San Antonio 20 for Dennis Robin, uh, San Antonio 20, Dennis Robin to the Senate, uh, Chicago Bulls for Will Perdue. People looked at, they said, what? Will Perdue? It's like, wow, that's what San Antonio hate my girls. Damn. I'm like, Will Perdue? And I'm like, oh man, this ain't funny. But people in Chicago was laughing, saying, we got, we got rid of,
00:44:54
Speaker
something like a giraffe and we got a lion. We got a lion coming in here, man. You're going to attack. Yes, sir. Well, the reason I said you decided was because from what I read, Phil Jax actually met with you before the trade and said, listen, do you want to play? And you said, well, honestly, I don't give a damn.
00:45:16
Speaker
And his response was, well, Scotty Pippen still feels a certain type of way over those six stitches. So, you know, they wanted you to apologize to him. Is that, is that a fair recap? Oh, that's true. Everyone knows that story. That's true. We said Jimi Cross's house, me, Michael and Scotty and Phil Jackson, we said his house. And I was like, I saw what Phil talked to him. He said, Dennis, can you go on there? I'm like, all right.
00:45:39
Speaker
I said, I do it. I'm wearing that same ass. There's no hard feelings. You know, man, I'm just happy to be here. I hope you accept my hard work. I'm just trying to just break the ice and stuff like that. You said, it's all good, man. It's all good. Yeah.
00:46:00
Speaker
Shout out to Vlad for interviewing. Man, don't shout him out. Yeah, I don't think we can do out of here. Nah, don't shout him out. I like when he interviews basketball players. We got mad when we first started. He's like, yo, take my shit down. Yeah, he did. Yeah, we had to. We did him like, thank you. Yeah, get out of here, man. His last step to us? Yeah. Yeah. How did he hear about us?
00:46:22
Speaker
How did he find us? We're that good! And forget that guy. Now we're going to tag him in this episode. Maybe not. I'm joking. I don't need their legal team talking to us. I don't ever want to hear Scotty say his opinion wasn't important, his feelings weren't important.
00:46:49
Speaker
Dennis Rodman had to apologize for what he did accidentally getting stitches on Pippin before he could actually set foot on the court. He had to sit with Phil, MJ, and Pippin. He probably couldn't even get his jersey number before, before then. I don't ever want to hear Pippin say like, yo, no one worried about me. I told y'all before, he, um,
00:47:16
Speaker
He was taken care of. Michael Jordan held him down. Every single time. More than we knew. Yeah, more than we knew. And then all them clips started coming out. And even with Jordan just not saying anything right now, it must be so weird.
00:47:30
Speaker
Like, it must be so weird for MJ, like, to just be like, Scotty. This guy's been hating the whole time? He's hating. You know? To get to a certain point, you understand that Scotty, he's been hating for a long time. He's so upset. And it's seeping out of his pores. It's bad. He really shouldn't just never start talking.
00:47:54
Speaker
He really should just shut up. Yeah, she never did it. But Dennis is a real one for that. Yeah, he admitted it. He was just like, yeah, I sat down with them like, yeah, like, I said what I had to say. I made peace and we made peace after that. But the fact that Scottie was like, no, I don't want to do that. Just guys that did, he has to apologize to me. Like, again, like, really?
00:48:15
Speaker
your feelings were taken care of. Because Jordan wouldn't have cared. Jordan wanted to win. Scotty had to worry about his feelings. He had to worry about apology. Even with that, he had to go along with the Scotty thing just so that... Dennis definitely was part of that group that was beating MJ's ass all the time. Dennis was all up in there. He was the young boy in that situation. And he was all up in there.
00:48:40
Speaker
Jordan was like, oh, I know who I got on my squad. He used to beat my ass all the time, bro. Like, down, yo, he gotta join us now. And they traded Will Perdue for a Hall of Fame play. They was done with him. I didn't even know that. Neither. I didn't know until he said that. They was like, you can have him. Yeah. I know they regret it. They regret it. You can have him. They regret it. Maybe it's because they had David Robinson over here.
00:49:10
Speaker
He probably was protecting David Robinson. They didn't have Duncan yet. Yeah, Duncan was probably in high school. Maybe not even. No, he was at Wake Forest. He was at Wake Forest. Yeah, because they played, you know, they played eight years in there, so he was probably there for it too. Scotty looks bad. Anytime someone interviews,
00:49:35
Speaker
and the truth comes out about Scottie, it's just like, yo, he hit. Remember when he said that you can't have a greatest player because it's about the team? Yeah, you a dummy. Scottie, you know what I'm saying? Like, he's done it again. Made his self look like an asshole once again. And what makes it the worst is that Jordan was not talking about it.
00:50:01
Speaker
So it makes it look super one-sided and he's just like. You know what I can't wait for? When LeBron retires and every, I want LeBron retires and every player who he played with, do they open their mouth and say anything? When they do their Miami, you gonna see a lot of true colors coming out. You think it's gonna be crazy? Eudonis. Eudonis is gonna be be chill. Birdman. Birdman's gonna be high.
00:50:29
Speaker
I just saw him playing in front of a bunch of school, looked like a camp. He was playing against dudes and he looked like he's
00:50:42
Speaker
Oh, there he got a long hair. He was hooping. You know who's gonna say something? Oh. Mike Miller. No, he's the... No, make me look cool. Mario Chambers. Oh, of course. Mario will say something. He gonna say something. Just to even put him on that couch and him not saying anything, you're already like, oh, here we go. Let's hear this one. Because he had a beef. He said it. Remember? He said, why are you being a bitch? Yeah, I'm just like, I let you stay on the team.
00:51:11
Speaker
to allow you to be here. Because Braun made the calls. Sign your checks. Like, I don't ever see, I really want, I can't wait until Miami does their dime. I don't think it'd be dirt though. I think Braun has. I think people are gonna say something. I think if you ever say something about Braun at this point, it's like saying something about Jordan, like, oh, he was just that, like, that's how that would be. No, it's just gonna be, I'm just waiting to see who's gonna be the next Scottie Pippen. I don't think they will. You don't think so? No, because they're learning from this dumbass.
00:51:40
Speaker
This generation's stupid. But that's that generation. Everybody from there, they're older, bro. He looks crazy. Nah, they're going to learn from Scotty. We're going to watch this in a couple years. They're going to learn that you don't get nowhere doing that. And then what are you going to have? Bronnie messing with one of their wives after that? The whole cycle starts again. It's over. Nah, I don't think any of them are going to say anything crazy. He actually going to say it on social media. I'm going to get Bronnie.
00:52:05
Speaker
to take the wife, so and so. To take the wife. New stepdad. You know he could do it. I don't even think he wants to do it, but I'll tell him to do it. He's just suffering L after L after L. It's 90%. The blueprint to be an asshole is right there. Don't do it, bro. You know what the sad thing is? I don't want this. When he passes over one day, you know a lot of people ain't going to be that sad.
00:52:31
Speaker
They're gonna remember Scottie. They were like, damn, bro. They're gonna remember Scottie for saying dumb stuff than what Scottie did as a Hall of Fame player. Mike, Mike, Mike MJ up at the funeral. It's like, you was a bitch ass. He always had to deal with it. Not everybody can see it. Nah, nah, I don't think he'll show up. That would be crazy. I don't think he'll show up. Mark as well. That would be... They can't do that.
00:53:00
Speaker
They can't Marcus is gonna come with his wife. It's finally oh my god Really out of our hair now They're gonna have Jordan on the hologram saying yeah, I couldn't be here, but Scotty was a good guy That's it
00:53:20
Speaker
Couldn't be here, but, you know, good teammate. I already said everything I had to say years ago. Sound like he don't do good business. But then here's the thing, like, he takes his L's and he makes them worse by blaming everybody, whining about it. No accountability. It's like, those are deals that you, like, why can't you get with somebody? Why doesn't he have retros out right now? You know what I'm saying? Why is he not? He wants some now.
00:53:45
Speaker
You wanna buy them? You want them hatin' Pippins? To be honest with you, to be honest with you, they just, they just, they just look. When, when they come out, when Supreme did them, they did the, um, those are the ones with the letters on the side. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That say air. Yup, yup, yeah. Those are Pippins. But who wants them? Who? You, you got haters shoes on. I'm, I buy them for Kendrick. I'd buy them. Some of them say Supreme instead.
00:54:16
Speaker
and uh what's it called Odell has his own pair but he's not a hater that's what i'm saying that's what i'm saying well that's what he should have did he should have stuck to that route he shouldn't be yeah he could have done anything it's like okay you're you're whining and bitching about
00:54:33
Speaker
something, stuff that happened 35 years ago. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You live in an age now where your name is Scottie Pippen. You could get on here and you just like, you could get your money and then you can stop crying about whatever recognition you didn't get that you really did. I wish somebody would tell him that.
00:54:54
Speaker
Like we all saw you as like. The guy. Like not even Robin. No, he was Batman. Yeah, you're actually Batman. Yeah, he was the guy. Or like we see you like that, we understand. But you shouldn't like shut up. Oops. I don't seem like that no more. Now is funny every time you hear that. Definitely Robin now. That Larsa has done. Nah, he not even Robin.
00:55:22
Speaker
Alfred. No, I'm Alfred. He's not Alfred. He's not Alfred. Who is he? He's the commissioner. Oh, dang. Mr. Gordon? Mr. Gordon. Yeah. Not even that. Who's a hater? Gordon hated a little bit. He can't be the joker. Yeah, but that was like a ruse, because they were working together the whole time. Yeah, him and Jordan worked together the whole time. He's a second. He's like not even the riddler.
00:55:52
Speaker
What, two-face? Two-face. Two-face. Yo. Two-face. We go with that. Yeah. That came together good. Yeah. Wow. That was good. That was two-face. That was real good. No, son, the son. Ayo. I'm a little amazed. I don't even know if I can. That was really good. Ayo, that's friends versus friends. Yo, we are out. Peace. Peace out.