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Who's on the hot seat for an NBA championship?

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Introduction and Topic Setup

00:00:01
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you
00:00:24
Speaker
Friends vs. Friends here. We talking nothing but basketball. It's your host JT. I got KB with me and I got Stat. Stat, man. Stat, man. Yeah, that's me. What's good? What's good? Good morning.

Excitement for the Playoffs

00:00:36
Speaker
Man, I'm super hyped about these playoffs, yo. Like, it's a lot going on.
00:00:43
Speaker
It's really, really, really dope. But I know somebody go to the game. Yeah. I'll be the next one. You know, where my gear. I'm excited. But, you know, it's it's something to be proud about. It's very something to be proud about. You feel me? That's the first W. I'll take it. I'll take it. Hard fought leadership. Now that had me nervous.
00:01:05
Speaker
Two-in-a-nip fashion in the fourth quarter. You know we were good for the first quarter.

Player Performance Analysis

00:01:10
Speaker
We were slipping, went nine minutes and 43 seconds when Jalen Brunson had to get three fouls. Third quarter, he came in, put in work. And then fourth quarter, Spider did what he does best. No, he was a dog. He was a dog. He was sourcing us. Yeah, he was killing us. Like, even from the beginning, that one transition bucket where he weaved through the whole team, I was like, oh, I don't like that. That's what he does, bro. He's dirty.
00:01:34
Speaker
He was a ninja with it on. He had this, he had a real tough move down there. I was like, I don't want to see that all game. Garland was nice too, but I don't think they're built to really take it there with us. Not that team. Bronson's too much for him. Yeah, because we got the leadership of him and we got the added value of Josh Hart coming in, doing what he does, getting it right back. I love, I love it. I'll be watching the series.
00:02:04
Speaker
Probably not there, but. How many games do you think it will take for us to win? Man, five. I say five. Five, wow, okay. Man, we got people on our Instagram, friends versus friends, thinking that we're gonna sweep. Yeah, we sweep. That's beautiful. It's the Knicks, y'all. It's the Knicks fans. They're not the dudes who aren't Knicks fans. They don't know how this goes. The Knicks have to mess something up. It's gonna be five. And guess what? For once, Dolan ain't do a damn thing to mess up.
00:02:33
Speaker
Why'd you say his name, yo? Do not invoke his name, yo. Don't invoke his name. He might have forgotten to do something, yo. Leave him alone. Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice. Overall, though, the playoffs, yo, it was a great day of playoffs, bruh. Had the family sit like it was Christmas down, like, yup, we were just watching this all day. I didn't like the Boston game. I fell asleep. I turned it off and watched the USFL game.
00:03:01
Speaker
Okay, okay, okay. At halftime, it was up 30. Yeah, they were. I ain't going to front like I saw the beginning of it. I was doing my thing, getting the food prepared for the Nick game. And then like, I watched the end of the Celtics game and I was like, damn, they going to be a problem. Once I saw Brown, I was like in the beginning game with something with the mask on, I was like, oh yeah, he not black. Oh, did you see that tough move? The move you always like to do, it's not the way that you like to do it.

Game Strategies and Unexpected Performances

00:03:29
Speaker
Oh, he cut him off and was like
00:03:39
Speaker
I understand why Trey came like cuz I was really watching heavy at the end of the End of the game trading come back into the fourth to like the second quarter was like like you would think he would a they were down They were getting close. I was like, all right, just small gap trays He didn't come into like the two-minute mark in the fourth quarter. I was like he's preparing himself. I
00:04:00
Speaker
For what? We could talk about that in news and rumors. I didn't coach. I didn't coach. He's another solid year with him. They get back to the playoffs. They'll be good again. Because he's no he's just letting them kind of flow. I don't think he's really. He don't care. This isn't his team. All the way. Not really. That's not his team. He don't care. Hopefully Trey stays. I mean, I think he will. News and rumors for a very beautiful day. I hope he goes to Milwaukee. What? So that Milwaukee can do more damage? No, I'm good. How about that? How do you feel about the Philly game?
00:04:31
Speaker
No comment. Actually, no, for real, for real, I didn't think Tobias was gonna score 21 points. Really? I knew Tobias was gonna go up. He's bipolar. He's bipolar. He is. One minute he'll score 21, next one he'll score three. But he was inside with it, too. Yeah, yeah. Getting off as a rebound, putting it back in, so.
00:04:49
Speaker
And B was too much. He was getting that MVP treatment. Every time he touched the ball, bruh, there was a double team trip. That was like, dang, OK. He was too much. Too much. Too much. And I feel like Harden was coming back. He was saucy. I ain't going to front. He was getting a little saucy. Next game, we'll talk about that. Brooklyn probably misses Jared Allen right now.
00:05:12
Speaker
Because the dude down there that did zero two of them cuz he almost got in a fight I thought That guy he can't do anything with them be yeah none of them can that was the issue that they had when they had KD Kyrie and Ben Simmons they kept trying to get like this lob situation it worked at the end of the game, but I
00:05:38
Speaker
It wasn't working at all. They were just throwing the ball up. And I was just like, dang, bro. I felt bad for Raquel Bridges. He gave him his heart and his soul. Hey, it's showing him that he is a hooper. Like, I don't know. We should have drafted him. Who do we draft? Who do we draft over him? Instead of Raquel Bridges? Did they both come out the same year? Both Bridges? Mm-hmm. And by the way, we were interested in both of them, too. And was it RJ? No.
00:06:05
Speaker
Quick. No. Last try. Yeah, it was later. I'll tell you this, this person. No. No, this is later. His name goes by the name Kevin Knox. No, he didn't. Kevin Knox. Fun fact of the night. Former night. But you know what's sad about that? That didn't seem like a bad trade-off back then. No. That didn't seem like it was going to be a detriment. What happened to that dude?
00:06:44
Speaker
Man.

Player Health and Management Decisions

00:06:45
Speaker
We gotta, you know what? Now, I listen to somebody talk about Zion. I'ma let y'all about that. That's another news and... Gil. Gil was talking about that. Go ahead. Same thing, you can't catch. Oh, H-zero? Non-motor dudes in the NBA today. I have a problem with that, because that didn't work in the 90s. You got sent packing. But news and rumors, I'ma give you one. Mr. Mark Cuban had to pay $750,000. Or for sitting. For sitting, Kyrie.
00:06:48
Speaker
The next.
00:07:13
Speaker
Luca, Tim Hardaway Jr., and Max Keebler.
00:07:18
Speaker
They over there tampering a little bit. But the sad thing about it was they said they asked the NBA, can we do something like that? And he said they had clearance. But then they lied. We already know that. But you know what was so messed up about it. If they had won and gotten to the play in and still not made the after the plan, that pick would have been ours. That was that part of that Prozinga straight. Yep, yep, yep. So now Cuban's pissed off. We took Bronson. So he won her screws over with a pick. He's dirty.
00:07:47
Speaker
He did his son dirty and they could have paid him. Oh Man, that's a different room versus Lukey and Kyrie was not trying to sit out there. Oh, what do we why? And that was an early March where they wanted to sit on and Jay can't even got an interview He was like, you know, it's management. Those are my bosses I can't argue with my bosses like I had to listen so boom like he kind of dived it out low-key like he's nice I mean, that's what that's pretty good. He a player. So he's just like it is a stupid like come on Next year
00:08:17
Speaker
Jake is my dog. I hope not. If they don't make the playoffs, they'll go deep.
00:08:21
Speaker
They better not blame him, it's not his fault. Someone always gotta die. Yeah, someone gotta go, you know, when it comes to that, but yeah. Another fight, yo, and you posted it.

Feuds and Off-Court Drama

00:08:32
Speaker
Spencer Denwoody versus Kyle Kuzmin. Hey, yo, he Kuzmin, his box, he was saying, I was like, dang, like, what was the issue? Like, I really didn't follow up until I had the real one. Somebody said something. His tweets, and he was like, all right, first, he had all this. He said, first, I would like to say this.
00:08:57
Speaker
Like you know what like someone hasn't called me stuff since I was like I was like this guy's Twitter fingers straight up death true definition of like yo just alright, just Let you know if you see him in public. He'll be voting or something probably
00:09:17
Speaker
Zion, Mr. Zion. David Griffin, the president of Bachelor of Operations, was like, yo. Oh, he's that tall. He was like, yo, Zion got to do, he got to take better care of his health. He got to take responsibility for that. Yeah, that's his responsibility. But you know these players nowadays is everything is being sensitive. You know he's not going like that. He's not going like that. What you mean? That's your plan for us, homie? Watch he asks for a trade. That's OK.
00:09:44
Speaker
So he can be overweight in Portland? Oh. Speaking of Portland.

Team Roster Evaluations and Trades

00:09:50
Speaker
That's crazy. That sounds like a move that might happen. Dame said this is an important off season. I was like, my man. For him to keep staying in the same situation, I looked at that. I was like, Dame, were they protected in the draft?
00:10:06
Speaker
high high like maybe like top five I'm about to say five six players not gonna like I mean I don't know what is how what what is wrong with them like how far away are they how many players years what they got they got Simmons cool that's the shooting guard and for me you got dame you got dame
00:10:31
Speaker
He's a free agent. Oh, God. He probably gonna bounce. Or take the money, whatever, we'll see. Yeah. And, uh, Yorkett, the center, fragile. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's Mitchell Robinson, but European style. Dad, okay. So, what they got?
00:10:48
Speaker
this upcoming draft pick, hopefully it's gonna be a savior for them. They did say they would trade it for a star. You said what? They would trade the pick for a star. I don't even know. That's something that we gotta talk about. Like, who would be the best matchup for them? Like, I mean, the best player to come there and maybe just get them on a path to the road to the playoffs, at least. I haven't, I don't think I've seen two games from Portland. You said Jaylen Brown.
00:11:16
Speaker
You didn't watch the Danes when he put up his career high? That was a good game. I didn't get, I usually get to see, I saw a highlight, so I didn't know. I made it on the West. I ain't going to front some of the West games, I'll be asleep. I was even asleep on the Sacramento wet. I stayed up for that. Honestly, when the next one, I was like. Game over. I don't even care no more. I really didn't care. Wasn't that football season when he did that? The end of football season? It was. Yeah, you right, you right. You were in your other job. Yeah. Scouting.
00:11:46
Speaker
Positive note, Jia suing that kid. Positive note, he's suing it. Why? Because he lost at 21? What happened? Because the kid is suing him. Oh, he's suing back? So he's counter. Oh, yes. But don't lie on my name. If it's the truth that the kid is telling the truth, then Jia pay up. But if it's a lie, and he's trying to extort Jia for some bread. I'm going to see you in court. With everybody with their ring cameras and all that, when are we going to see the footage?
00:12:16
Speaker
First of all, for his house, he should have cameras all over the place. He might just be goofy. Oh, yeah, that was playing at his crib. You already know he got cameras? Yeah. Unless someone turned off the cameras, unless Ja really did that, I would have been proof. Yeah, facts. Yeah. Now the Trey Young rumor.
00:12:41
Speaker
Now, if they didn't win, but new ownership and everything saying, everybody is up for grabs in Atlanta. And Trey says it is what it is. Everybody's up for, who's what? Everybody's up for grabs. Blowing his team up. Including him. Eat Murray? Everyone's up for grabs.
00:13:02
Speaker
Fun fact, Quinn Snyder. Oh, they've been wanting to trade him. He'll get somebody. They'll get what they want for him. Yeah, probably. Yes or no. He has the same issue like Randall. He got the attitude and he got a monster contract that people don't want to pay. That's the issue with that. They're going to have to give up some picks to get him off their cap.
00:13:24
Speaker
But they interviewed Trey and Trey was like, when he heard the rings, it is what it is. If he gets traded, he gets traded. He doesn't care. But remember, I told you when Nate McMillan was coaching, they were saying the rumor was that he had one location that he was interested in, which was the Knicks. Well, Trey? Yeah. But I don't want him because they said automatically the Knicks would have to give up Brunston. I was like, what?
00:13:52
Speaker
We straight it was like it was like we gotta give up Bronson RJ Grimes and quickly it was like a whole bunch of next I Don't know Detroit That ain't right, I'm gonna just start saying random stuff
00:14:13
Speaker
The last rumor was, and this is news, backshoot I got two. Which one would call it? Miles Bridgers got a 30 game suspension next season. That's not bad. He's still staying with the Hornets though, right? He ain't got no team. Oh, he ain't got no team. He didn't get the team. No. Oh, I thought they kept them under. No. I thought they kept it the whole time.

Coaching and Team Dynamics

00:14:34
Speaker
No, my man is just suspended. So whatever team he gets kind of. He got 30 games to sit. When he finally gets picked up. Yeah.
00:14:42
Speaker
That boy might send money out. Yo, he was getting over 100 plus million and he messed that up. He had a season beforehand though, like a season. And they were playoff contention with Ball and him. Yup. On the last and positive note, Sam Cassell's getting interviewed for Houston's head coaching job. Okay. He's long overdue.
00:15:05
Speaker
Yeah, he is. He's been in the rumors and coaching wise for a minute now. Championship winner. And his time is coming up. Funny looking dude. That ain't right. He ain't right. NBA champ though, right? Yeah. Not once, but twice. With who? Houston. Houston, man. Oh, young Houston. He was that second point guard young guy back then. He was coming off the bench even though, you know. I was about to ask him. Being the uptempo guy. Yeah, he did.
00:15:33
Speaker
Wait, hold on. How'd y'all feel about them couple fights before like the actual playoffs? Yo, the Timberwolves. Go, Bear. Happy Easter. Jersey. Yo, Easter was crazy. I was like, the frustration. We're talking about fights. They're on the same team. He was a little scuffle. Like, it wasn't real. To me, it was just like.
00:15:52
Speaker
It happens, man. Hey, we are not the Warriors. You gotta blame the Warriors for that now, because you ain't never see that. You ain't really ever see that. The situation, I think, added to a lot of that, because he was talking to Anderson, and Anderson's like, we traded our whole team for you, and you suck. And now you want to say something to me. And that's when Rudy was like,
00:16:19
Speaker
I'll punch you. He threw a punch. He did it for France. What can you say? He got suspended for France. I don't think he should have suspended, though. But guess what? The lie that he said he was the reason why I didn't play against the Lakers was I wasn't feeling right. I was like, all right, bro. You got suspended. Yeah. I don't think he should have suspended, though. I don't think so. Yes.
00:16:41
Speaker
You're doing that in front of the crowd. You're embarrassing your organization. You should have been fighting. Now, if you told me you fought someone on the other team, that's cool. Yeah. But you fought your own teammates.
00:16:53
Speaker
And I think maybe when you're saying management wise, I think everybody feels that way because you heard, I don't know, we put that up on our page, on our IG, like the clip of the audio of Anderson talking, do you hear that? So he was just like, yo man, this is bull. Y'all pamper him. This is crazy. And Kyle Anderson, he was like, y'all gotta make a decision.
00:17:12
Speaker
It was like, you know, like I think everybody feels that way. Probably about Gobert though. Like they're probably like pampering him, making him feel like a little baby and then nothing happens to him. So maybe on the management side, gave up so many picks and so many players. And where are we at right now? We in the play and got knocked out. But when they do, when they do come together, Gobert and Karl, that's a force. I think.
00:17:34
Speaker
Yeah, if Kak can stay healthy. Yeah, if Kak can stay healthy, it's an issue. It's a big issue. He can't stay healthy. No, but... Jersey. Another Jersey, brother. Yeah, Jersey. You know, put him up, man. He was about to get in. He was about to put his hands on him. But, um, it was good. And, you know, the scuffles, you know, two little things, but he's a risk funny. I was like, Dad, you're getting crazy. Like, what's going on?

Championship Aspirations

00:17:55
Speaker
Yeah, and then your boy Mason Plumlee.
00:17:57
Speaker
Fighting Bones. His own teammate. Yeah. But they didn't get suspended. They didn't. Well, they didn't throw any blows, right? They just shit at each other. They got separated up and the Bones got back up. What's up? You have to play for the team. You're not playing for the team.
00:18:18
Speaker
The players from Duke don't know how to keep the composure. Soft, a lot of crying. Emotional. Parking tickets, all that. Parking tickets? Definitely. Not even responsible. Even though the playoffs started,
00:18:37
Speaker
Who actually really needs this championship as a player and who as a team needs this championship? Number one player who needs a ring, Chris Paul. Ah, I will say that. We're looking at everybody right now. It is definitely in my mind. It's Chris Paul because his time is that guy needed to know.
00:19:02
Speaker
Stay for him, cannot save himself. He needs it, really? He need to get this ring, bruh. But when he played for Houston, he blew it. And Houston against Golden Estate, when they were up three to one. That's why he needs it. That's why he needs it. Because you're going to be saying that about him for the rest of his life if he don't get this ring. He's in the category with Patrick Ewing.
00:19:20
Speaker
And then, yeah, he's in that category. He's in that category. He is. And the whack thing is, if he does get it, I think he, you know, hopefully if he does get it, out of all the homies, the real homies, like the bronze main tight group, Mello's the only one without the ring if Chris Paul gets it.
00:19:38
Speaker
Chris Paul can't get it now. Not until Melo gets it. You said who? Chris Paul can't get it until Melo gets it. That man deserves it. Chris Paul getting it. He is the right path to get it like, high percentile of getting this job. They gonna lose to Milwaukee. I was gonna say, from Milwaukee or Boston, pick your poison. You think this sounds good? Oh, we gonna have to wait. We gonna have to wait and see. He's gonna have to actually be Chris Paul the whole time.
00:20:06
Speaker
Yeah. And book is gonna have to be booked the whole time. K.D. will be K.D. K.D. will be K.D. K.D. will be K.D. I ain't wanna hear nothing about K.D. will be K.D. As long as he's healthy, he's Gucci. That's what everybody is. As long as they're healthy, they Gucci. No, because if you don't have Chris Paul, you got Cameron Payne who's...
00:20:25
Speaker
A very good point guard. Yeah, I like him. I like him. The issue isn't Chris Paul, you lose Booker, that's a problem. You lose Aiten, that's a problem. You lose KD, you're not going to the finals. Chris Paul is like the fourth best person on the starting lineup. Damn. They need him though. They need him though. Even if they do need him. They do need him though. They do, but it's not as like, if you told, okay, so if you tell me you have CP3, Booker,
00:20:52
Speaker
Aten, but KD's out. You think they're going to the championship? Yes. You said all those guys are out? No, I said KD is out, but you have Booker, CP3, and Aten, you think they're going to the championship? I think if Book is out, they can still make it away in this book. But if KD's out, you're not going to the championship. That's my point. I forgot they had to play the Warriors. But they got messed up. They messed up. But Jibron, kind of said, please play this clip for me.
00:21:21
Speaker
I'm trying to think what squad should get that joint. I don't even know. The Clippers. Ew. Nah, who a squad needs at the most? I would say it's probably an East squad, honestly. I don't even know. Well, look who's about to get it. You know who's coming out the East. We'll see. They're having a dynasty. I don't know. We'll see. They are. We're not going to play that clip, because we having too much fun with this. No, the Bucks are building a dynasty. Yeah?
00:21:51
Speaker
It's already a dynasty. But how do you consider a dynasty? Do you consider it as a, like, remember how the Lakers were in the 80s? A dark cloud over the league. That you have to wait until they go away before you really... But the Laker, okay. Because I think as a dynasty, I give... Miami wasn't a dynasty because I consider a dynasty winning it. Miami didn't win it every time.
00:22:15
Speaker
So it has to be consecutive rings? It's like the Lakers did it. There's validity to that. To me, that's dynasty. It has to be like a drinker. If it's not that, they are the imminent threat. They are Thanos right now. Because I'll give it to the Lakers back then. They were a dynasty. I'll give it to the Warriors when they went back to back with KD. They were a dynasty. The Spurs. The Spurs.
00:22:40
Speaker
Dynasty. So you don't think the Bucks are comparable to maybe the Spurs? If they could do it two times in a row, sure, I'd call them a dynasty. That's coming, like now. Yo, and the sad thing is, they would have actually been a dynasty already if they hadn't lost Milton last year against Boston. Because they would have won it last year. No offense or Bucks.
00:23:04
Speaker
But then Curry got his, maybe his last one. You think he's done after this? If they don't fix what's going on over there and Milwaukee stays around, the dark cloud over the league. Dr. Doom over the league. My man over there. Because look, we're all excited. We got to wait for Milwaukee to pass.
00:23:30
Speaker
You right, we do. We gotta wait for them to get through. Cool, we got in the second round, it's Milwaukee, fine. What about next year? Okay, we get to the second round, we might be Miami. You're right, you're making a point though, you're making a point. Miami, then Milwaukee, you're gonna be standing there at some point. Boston, Milwaukee, Boston, Milwaukee. Boston, I feel like they're gonna blow up that team. They're gonna miss Mantle. Jaylen and Tatum really can't work it together. Well, that's the way you're doing it.
00:23:57
Speaker
But imagine then imagine that we're almost on par. Like if we become something like a Boston next year and we struggle with Boston and then have to play with Milwaukee. Again, like they're the dark cloud. They're standing in our way. And I know that sounds weird because I'm a Knicks fan, but.
00:24:21
Speaker
With Jalen Brunson at the helm, Josh Hart doing what he's doing, and that kind of being the blueprint. So he's just doing that? Yeah, depending on what the West does. The West is the wild, wild West. It don't matter. It depends on if people are healthy. It depends on if we actually end up getting to play somebody from the West in the finals. The matchups are going to matter.
00:24:47
Speaker
Okay, that's cool. So if the Knicks went to the finals this year, let's just say this year. Let's just say just for fun. The Knicks went to the finals. We magically beat the Bucks. We beat Boston to get to the finals. Who do you see us having the greatest chance of a good matchup to win a finals? I'm gonna go with him first, then you. Freaking Lakers.
00:25:14
Speaker
Who has the best chance to get in there, you said? I'm thinking of it like, who was our favorite matchup? Who would you want to play in the finals? Who would you want to see in there? I would say if it goes to the tough road and the journey, it's definitely
00:25:34
Speaker
I think it's the Lakers, man. They're on a journey. They're on a journey. If we beat the Lakers... The toughest road? If we got the... You say the toughest road, right? No. No, he's saying, like, who can we beat? Like, who's the best match-up to beat in the finals? Who, the Knicks? Oh, the best match-up to beat in the finals? No. It's not the Lakers. No. It's the Clippers.
00:25:54
Speaker
I could almost do that. I said we get jiggy by then. Clem is gonna get jiggy on us, you know what I mean? No, because Paul George is still hurt. They don't know who he is. He gonna come back healthy by then. And the claw can't, he got low management in the playoffs. We'll see. I don't think we'd be able to do that. To be honest, I think Memphis.
00:26:11
Speaker
Memphis is too wild. I mean, Memphis, I think the Lakers gonna take them. Lakers gonna take them. But that's my point, I'm saying. We actually had a choice. I say Memphis. Oh yeah, we had a choice. Memphis, because Denver is gonna tear us up. Yeah. Like I said, Memphis, we would have no problem. Three is Sacramento, and they're just high flying, but they're just reckless.
00:26:38
Speaker
That was a very good game last night. Four is the Suns. Can't do that against KD. Five is the Clippers. I agree with you with the Clippers. I just don't trust Paul George staying healthy. The Claw has an issue with load management. So then I said that would be fair. Six is Golden State. That's death for us. We ain't beating them. Y'all don't think we could beat the Lakers?
00:27:03
Speaker
What type of AD are we going against? Are we going against a healthy AD who's actually gonna play it? Or are we gonna get a LeBron James that's gonna score a 40 yards? Let somebody throw him an alley-oop and he land on his feet and break his vertebrae. I just said, what type of AD? So if you're telling me we're gonna get the fragile AD, then sure, yes. But if you're telling me- I'm waiting on it. He gotta go all the way to the finals, right? You don't think he'll slip on a banana peel at some point? He gotta go all the way there, definitely. But if you're telling me it's the AD of- He get up off the toilet the wrong way? Too fast?
00:27:33
Speaker
Oh, you gonna break a couple ribs? I don't know. Man, he eat the wrong thing. Listen, all he has to do is eat that wrong piece of pizza. Then he have diarrhea. Yeah, I'm not gonna be able to do this. I mean, I can't run right now. We're beating them bitches running up and down the floor. We just gotta block LeBron just one time.
00:28:00
Speaker
He loves coming to New York. He's going to drop 50 each game Everybody doesn't matter who we play. It's gonna be like another home game. It's a it's a somebody in a bag. It's another home game Family showing up right from New York. He right. Yo, he's he's from New York, bro Like he's gonna be the next year hire us to like push his family on the subway and stuff like that. Yo, my man
00:28:30
Speaker
Hey, I'm serious. To hold them up. So he's on the phone with them outside. What's the problem? What is the problem? I gotta go inside. You better not go inside. Don't you push me. No. All right, so that's the only, I only see Memphis. You see Lakers, maybe the Clippers. Who do you see? I'm captain. I mean, Memphis to see, I mean, if we're going like that is obviously, it's the Memphis or maybe Sacramento.
00:28:56
Speaker
I mean, they just beat the Warriors. I was gonna say, you ain't watched that whole game. I know. I watched that whole game. I saw the stats. I was like, damn. Malik, how come he's not in a six-man conversation, yo? He's dirty. The Lakers should have him right now, too, yo. You've been talking about Malik for a minute. And then they got... They should have the guys.
00:29:19
Speaker
But he needed to move. He needed to move. And he actually looks like his soul self from Kentucky when it was him and Fox playing together. That was the perfect tangent together in college. Yeah. That worked. Yeah. My interesting next topic. Actually, no, we just said we just said teams. What

Expectations and Pressure on Teams

00:29:39
Speaker
others? I actually feel like Denver got to do it.
00:29:42
Speaker
Denver is under the hot seat. If Denver don't get out, if they're under the hot seat, for real, they are. I do not even see them going far. I really don't. They're just going to be the Clippers. No, you know who they are? Who's, um, they're like the old, no, no, I can't say that. I was going to say like the old Sacramento Kings that always, they're like high seed and keep going. Yeah, it is. But still like, that's why I was going to see the Clippers. Yeah, I feel you on that then. They're going to keep hanging around, hanging around high expectations. Yeah.
00:30:11
Speaker
laying an egg. That ain't great. Definitely giving up. They're just dines in a row. I don't see them going far, bro. You posted this, and we all talked about it internally. What do you think about what Boogie said?
00:30:27
Speaker
Oh, MVP. Um, it's funny how everyone's saying like, yo, Boogie's a hater. I was like, but he has a point, Puerto Rico. So with a lot of other players, I saw that list too. I was like, Oh, they're gonna have a squad over there. Um, but he had a valid point. Like he's, he's not the greatest big man. Like you're talking about a lot of and him to get that MVP, like
00:30:53
Speaker
I think they're just giving MVPs so willingly. Yeah, it is. They're not usually used to like your team had to be on the realm, like really, really great. And the player is the main reason, of course. Now it's just like, all right, so who's making the most, who has the most tweets? Who's the fans love? Who's Jersey selling the most? It's kind of like that. I'm like, no, like it can't be that way. Well, that's why.
00:31:21
Speaker
I almost feel like the Dark Hurls for Giannis probably will get it over Even and Bean because Philly's gonna, Philly probably will beat the Nets. I will give you that. And then they're gonna get knocked out by Boston.
00:31:35
Speaker
But if they do damage the button, I don't think I'm on damage the matchups is crazy I think that's a bet obviously that's a better matchup than us if we get to that second round But that's gonna be a good that's gonna be a good one. Honestly, you don't think they'll take off on them who I don't want to see like five games where four games where I
00:31:55
Speaker
Boston just takes off on them like they did the Hawks. I don't think so. Joel can keep your team in there. He can keep a team in foul trouble. He is staying in line. He's really good at the free throw line. But what do you have after that? You got a Harder who... Shake Milton. Hey, yo, he's for interesting. And he was out there too, yo. You got James Harder who has an AARP card. Tobias Harris. Tobias is bipolar. Tobias will have to shut down Tatum. The fans. Whose garden?
00:32:25
Speaker
Um, Brown. Jaylen Brown? Yeah. Nobody. Not Maxie. No, Harder. Harder's gonna get cooked. That's not good. That's not good. Uh, I think cutting the stove. Oh, yeah. I don't know. We'll have to see on that one, bro. That's a little, that's interesting. All right. That's interesting. Yo, we had to see on that one. Oh, no. Who has the toughest?
00:32:57
Speaker
The East versus the West, who has the toughest conference to get to the finals? East. West.

Conference Comparisons

00:33:04
Speaker
Crazy. What do you mean? The toughest? Well, the West is a pro. Because it's unpredictable. It's like, you don't know. Like, it's kind of like set up in the East. It's like, all right, cool. We know. Like you said, Milwaukee, dirt cloud. We know that's dirt cloud.
00:33:17
Speaker
Yeah, so that's harder for the Knicks to get to. I'm saying it's probably harder, but you know who you gotta go through. You know who the championship, like, who holds the belt on that side, you know what I'm saying? On the West, it's unpredictable. He's just like, Dallon, we don't know. It's a good thing, but you don't know where you have to really strategize. You're saying, like, since the East is so top-heavy.
00:33:41
Speaker
It's hard for the Knicks to get there. It'd be hard for the Cavs to get there. It's not gonna be hard for Milwaukee to get there. But that makes you have to work harder knowing that you gotta go against those three teams. If the West is the Wild Wild West, that means you gotta be on your grind 24-7. That's why it's harder. But they're not. But that's why it's harder. You remember playing teams and you're just like, yo, like, oh, it's, we might get this game or like, oh, they whack. And then they just randomly like,
00:34:10
Speaker
60 point get you like you know I'm saying because they weren't playing they weren't playing hard, but they're not playing hard nobody's Playing hard now like the prize you're not gonna bring in um doc into this conversation They're just not playing hard right now. We're in the play. I'm playing hard. I think it's Doc's fault no
00:34:32
Speaker
I already told you I feel for the guy. I say the west side is the toughest because it's a matchup. It's a mix up matchup. You don't know who you're going to get. You don't know where you're going to go. You don't know where you're going. Bro, it's random. Like I think the Lakers might win. Memphis could surprise every first round against Memphis. They're going to win.
00:34:53
Speaker
It's amazing. You don't go into 100 percent. You really don't know. They're going to be. Who is it? Who is it? Who is there a dark cloud in the West? Who is there a dark cloud in the West? Exactly. You don't know that as long as everyone stays healthy, as long as everyone stays healthy. We're talking about Milwaukee and Middleton goes out. We're pretty sure there's still a dark cloud and it's still there. Still that that number one is going to rain a little bit.
00:35:16
Speaker
There's still that number one seed. In the west side, it might be like the third seed versus the fifth seed in the conference finals. We know the west is going to be the one or the two against whoever. So you think the bottom half.
00:35:31
Speaker
It's a it's a mystery. It's a question mark. You don't know the Lakers being there, bro They're gonna knock around they have a journey. They could make it to the finals. They could now they are not so that's the thing they you frame it if you frame it One team who has a harder We're talking about the Western West. That's what I'm saying if it was like if it was like the who has the harder
00:35:57
Speaker
Is it the Lakers or is it the Miami Heat? You know what I'm saying? To get to the East. Yeah, it's still the East. It's still the East. Well, because they're playing Milwaukee first. Then they finna die. Big fella. Jabbar, you got a clip? Finna die. That's okay. We can debate this over. I still blame.
00:36:24
Speaker
I still say the East, like big fell over here. What? I just feel it's a match. It's mixing matches like, yo, you really don't know. Everybody knows. So even say, we get to the next, and we beat the Cavaliers, Milwaukee. We all said, well, it was a good playoffs for us. We know. We don't know in the West. It's just like, we don't know what's going to happen. Who is it? We're even talking about Denver, who had a great record, who's going in hot.
00:36:53
Speaker
We think they're gonna go they're gonna they're gonna be out. We don't know. I think that's a it's a jumble Like it's like your mind is twisted on that one. Let's do this. Who do you want to see come out the west? Who do you want to see play the bucks for a good see? I know I'm pissing Boston off right now if it's the bucks there in the west
00:37:20
Speaker
I don't even know. I would... I really don't care about the West. It would be cool to see Lakers back there. It's not happening. It would be cool to, and then maybe... I don't know, I wouldn't say the Warriors. Because I don't want to see a asshole game. I don't want to see them get blown out by 30 in every single game. I want to see an actual good series. Yeah, you're right. You're right. You're right. So then the Warriors... The Warriors? They'll...
00:37:49
Speaker
take this far with Milwaukee. I don't know who's stopping young or something. With Milwaukee still. Splash Brothers. I'm just Splash Brothers, pool. Yeah, we really don't know. Wiggins who came back and even though he looked a little bit. Wiggins did come back anyway, like 20 or 17 points? He had, sorry, I think 17 points. And he started or did he start? No, he came off the bench. And Steve Kerr was like, when you're tired, let me know.
00:38:16
Speaker
He did a good job. That's a great, how you just not playing and like, all right, I'm back from the playoffs. Like, that's lit. But he was hooping. He missed that game winning three, but they needed that. That would have been a nice little story for

Team Dynamics and Playoff Paths

00:38:27
Speaker
him. Yeah. After everything that's going on. Because the rumors were. After everything that's going on, like, that would have been nice. That's a way darker cloud. Yeah. See, that's the real dark cloud. That's what they're going against in the West right now. That's a real messed up issue right there.
00:38:43
Speaker
Like I said, it's a question mark. You just don't know. For this situation, you just don't know. You know what, clubbers ain't going to the finals. You know Denver's not going to the finals. You know Sacramento's not going to the finals. So what, you're pushing it all on the Lakers. You know Memphis is not going to the finals. I got three more teams. We just predicting random stuff right now. You got Golden State.
00:39:11
Speaker
And if you have a healthy AD, sure, they can go to the finals. You're gonna say Phoenix. And you got Phoenix. Those are the three locks. Everyone else ain't reliable. You only said two. No, I said Phoenix. I said the Lakers. Oh, you just put the Lakers in there? Yeah, I said that. Well, now it kind of seems like it's Phoenix. Do we want to see that again? Yeah. You ready? You want to see that?
00:39:40
Speaker
KD, well... I was watching that in the hospital. Yeah, I was texting you. When you were in and out, knocked out.
00:39:49
Speaker
I wonder, like, how people would view Katie as like, he could just go anywhere. He said that. He don't care about it. I mean, I don't care. But he's just like, because he's a basketball player. He's going to be your first Battle Hall of Fame. He don't care. A 2K player is like, all right, I just won the whole career mode on here. And let me just go to a different team. Let's go to the crappiest team. Let's go to Wizards and just do the whole thing. That's what I gave him on the Wizards win the championship.
00:40:11
Speaker
He's from DC, he might as well. I'm just saying, that's how it is. Like, let me just change my team and just do the whole thing. He didn't go to Orlando. He didn't go to Orlando. Go to Orlando. Orlando. Change it all. No. Why not? Why not? What? No. Why? He's not. Why? I was getting ready to say Minnesota. Ew. Minnesota. That whole roster is just... I need a point chord. That would be as random as it gets. I need a point chord. I need a better point chord. We going to Orlando.
00:40:41
Speaker
That's just me, I just need a better point guard. I like what we got there, the Wag brothers. I like, you know, I already know Apollo and my bull. I just need a better point guard if that's gonna happen. That's just me. Rumor has it Fred Van Vyck is interested to go to Orlando.
00:40:58
Speaker
If Fred goes there, it's pretty solid team. Cole Cole's a six man talking about like getting rid of like they said like, yo, what they got going on is just isn't working. So they're just going to like really start over, like rebuild, rebuild. I got to call my sources. Yeah, hit them up stat. Yeah.
00:41:18
Speaker
I was watching him most. He's a decent point guard. He's just never able to stay healthy. He had a lot of mess up. At least he's collecting him money. Yeah. I just think. Could have more though. Yo, you know who's been a disappointment? Jaylen Suggs. Yeah.
00:41:40
Speaker
Cole's a true six man off the bench. He ain't a starting point guard. But Cole's been hooping. And he does it right off the bench. I don't know how y'all felt when he was coming out, but how'd you feel? I wanted him over Obie. I didn't want Obie. We needed a point guard at the time. Oh, you wanted Cole. I wanted Cole. Nah. We got Obie. I wouldn't have been mad at it. But now, again, now we got to think about Obie.
00:42:07
Speaker
Now, he could do 30 points. Do we trade him? Or do we keep him? And just... Trade him and keep Mitch so that... I don't know. We get no scoring from Mitch. He keeps complaining that he doesn't get the opportunities. I saw him. He missed. He said, I saw him. He missed your opportunity. You know what? Sometimes when he doesn't dunk when you know he should, I feel like he's tired.
00:42:37
Speaker
Like, isn't that the only reason why you do that? Conditioning is poor. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So he's right there around the rim. Put the ball in. He had a nice dunk last night. He sure did. It busted out. Oh, that one? That was nice. Didn't he have an oop, too? Or a pushback? Yeah. No, no, he had a. Yeah. And then he had a nice three in the corner. I was like, OK, Obie, I see you, bruh. All right. All right.
00:43:02
Speaker
I was surprised that RJ is three. I was like, whoa. Yeah, you had said that. I was like, RJ? He averaged 19 points a game. He needed, we can't accept seven points.
00:43:13
Speaker
Nah, he need to up that to least have people have seven points on a defensive side. He need to have some I don't know It's just the RJ hate was funny, you know from the felt for the nickname. She was hilarious Everybody Sam was like bruh, but imagine if we had broken down Zion or anything like that. Everybody's just complaining like We'll see I never won his iron when that's true. He always actually said he was gonna be fat and
00:43:39
Speaker
Yeah, I'm happy about that. You should have heard what Gil was saying about him. What did he say? Yeah, you said he was going to say that. Well, no. He wasn't even saying anything bad about him. He was just saying that retroactively, going back to how excited everybody was, he was surprised that everybody was so excited that he was like 280 pounds.

Fitness and Lifestyle Discussions

00:43:58
Speaker
He was like, you think that's good? He's 280 pounds coming from school. You know what I'm saying? As a kid, what do you think he's going to do when he gets in a city with his money
00:44:08
Speaker
all that food, the clubs. And like when you're in college, you have how many practices and then two games. He said in the NBA, you have like one practice and three games a week. So you're playing basketball like less. So if you're not doing something active, yeah, and then you're still eating like that, then you're going to gain what he does. You got a personal chef, right? Sure, he does. But when that personal chef leaves,
00:44:44
Speaker
Come on now, he's in New Orleans. You know what you can do, New Orleans? Everything in New Orleans comes with a buck and a lard.
00:44:57
Speaker
You can gain some weights, man. They're like... Well, we know. We saw what he looked like. He has like my body type where you can gain anything real easy. If you want to, you can gain it. I can gain 20 pounds in two weeks if I wanted to. Guaranteed you wanted to. Guaranteed her your money back. If I tried, my body will do it.
00:45:17
Speaker
I'm trying to lose it. You got to juice 24-7, but then you miss, like you smell chicken. I'm not gonna, that's what I'm doing now. I'm juicing everything. Hold up, let me show everybody. It's gone. Look, it was good. This was, once upon a time, this was grapes. This was like a pound of grapes. It's like nine oranges.
00:45:45
Speaker
I think I have some spinach in here. But it just tastes like fruit punch. The juice is great. Natural fruit punch. The only thing is, is that when you're doing something like this, you realize how much
00:45:58
Speaker
your body wants to taste the good food that you're used to and it's weird not actually chewing solid food. So like I'd be smelling like Tiff was making hot dog yesterday. I was like, they smell good. She was like, don't worry about it. You're not supposed to be eating. Like the kids have Popeyes the day before that. And then I had to heat it up for Kendrick and I like smelled it and I was like,
00:46:25
Speaker
No, but it's like you realize that the smell and the taste of the food is what you want. You don't even really be hungry like that. But getting over that shock, it took me to basically see myself on the podcast looking swollen and everything and then just being tired all the time until Zion gets to that point, it's nobody else's fault.
00:46:48
Speaker
Like the organization, their role in it is just this. Yo, get it under control or we're gonna treat you like a pro. You gotta go somewhere. Yeah, you go with saying like, well, every 10 pounds you're overweight, we're gonna find you this. It's in his contract. Imagine that bro had to go to Miami. You know they do that body fat joint? Oh my gosh. That would have been the best thing for him. Yeah, that would have been the best thing for him. He would have hated that.
00:47:15
Speaker
But it would have got him right. He has the body type where you can't play. And I know about that, because it's easy to get comfortable. You want to go sit down. But at the same time, part of sitting down, you will find yourself eating a bag of pork rind. You will? Yo, you'll have it for no reason. Sometimes I just think about something and I'll be like, yo,
00:47:41
Speaker
that ravioli was good that one time. And I won it, and I'm like, I don't even want that right now. You about to be Zion's life coach. Right. And give him the friends versus friends. Hey, man, I need 5K a week. You know what I'm saying? I need 5K a week. Dang. Right? I'm good. You got a game? I got game. I got game late. I got game. Hey. Surprised you're last. You play up. You don't take weeks off or anything.
00:48:11
Speaker
So you're just going to go out. You know he's sitting here talking about all kinds of roads. This guy thinks he knows everything. Who's that? Stat. The disrespect. We're talking about the road to the finals. There are some people that got down the road before, just like the Wiz.
00:48:42
Speaker
Which one?

Cultural Critiques and Historical Paths

00:48:43
Speaker
I'ma read The Wiz. They did a remake. Ew. I'm not watching them remakes. Y'all got to stop. Hollywood, get back to writing stuff that's good. Stop copying. They about to mess up the Ninja Turtles again. Let me do this. Yo, where did y'all get this whole thing where Donatello has a gap in his face? Why are y'all doing that, yo? I'm a Ninja Turtle fan. Stop doing that.
00:49:09
Speaker
Yes, my podcasts are taking over you better stop No, but I want to talk about some people these are considered to be some the hardest roads to the finals ever What's up? I'm gonna just read y'all some stuff and see if y'all can guess who it is. I Got four teams. Okay now look
00:49:31
Speaker
We got one team, I'm not gonna tell you what year, they had to go through the Bulls that were finding themselves for the second time. The flashy young Nets.
00:49:50
Speaker
Flashy young nets? Young nets? The 2000s. Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. Some bad boys. The Detroit Pistons. And some young guns from the bottom of the map. Who? What? Say they names. Bottom of the map. Are we supposed to be guessing who that is? Yeah, what team is it? All right, I'll give it to you. I said the Bulls. Yeah. If I give you the name of who they play in the finals, y'all are gonna know it instantly. And I already said the bad boys.
00:50:21
Speaker
This was a proving ground for a known star. Barkley. Phoenix. Nah, I mean, the team who won this finals. Against the Bulls? Nah. No, they beat the Bulls in the first round. Oh, Orlando. It wasn't Orlando. You was wrong. Statman.
00:50:46
Speaker
I don't know who it was. Winning this series, they had to beat opponents. The combined winning percentage was 65.2. This was the 06 heat. They beat the math. Oh, snap. They had to beat. When I was thinking of the Bulls, I'm thinking about Jordan. No, good. Yeah. How often do you think you're going to see the Bulls on this list? I got four teams. You better be careful that Bulls were 41 and 41.
00:51:15
Speaker
So remember, that was like the Joe Kim Noah stuff. OK, OK, OK. They were 43 and 33 Nets. Remember, that was when they had, like, Jake Kent. Yeah. K-Mart. Yeah. The Bad Boys, the Tayshaun Prince era over here. Gotcha. I think I was senior in high school. She Wallace. It was junior in high school. Yeah, they had all of that. They had to beat all of them to get there. This is Shaq and D-Wade.
00:51:43
Speaker
That's the Heat who had to win this. All right, next team. See, I don't want to say this dude's name. He said this is flashy. No, no, listen, the after we already guessed it, I already told y'all this is the Heat in 06. That was that final. All right, next rule, next finals, right? This is a sure star who got hurt for the Blazers, that team.
00:52:12
Speaker
Second round, Pow and Kobe. Third round, Young KD. And the last round, it was as hot as it could get in America, pretty much. What? Yo, wait. Because if I say what it is, y'all are going to know right away.
00:52:39
Speaker
And a team that went through all those guys. Mm-hmm. Spurs. Is it the Spurs? It sounds like the Spurs, doesn't it? Yeah, because they went to the Heat. Yeah. How does it get Heat? Young KD. It's the West. Kobe was still there. Remember, the finals was as high as it can get. The finals? Last game? It's actually the Mavs.
00:53:01
Speaker
Y'all, I was about to say that next. 2011, when they played the Heat. That was my next scene. Y'all not getting nothing. I'm not giving it to y'all. Y'all, I'm making this hard. I'm tired of you knowing stuff. Their combined winning percentage, 66.5, their opponents. That. Here we go. I like this one. I like this one. I got to be cryptic. I got to be cryptic. This is...
00:53:33
Speaker
The detention boys. They're not as bad anymore. This is a weird 48 and 34 Hawks team. They had to go through young Raptors and they had to beat the Monstars. Boston. It's not Boston. Keep going.
00:53:58
Speaker
That's it. They had to beat the Monstars. They had to beat the Monstars. The Monstars. To get to the finals? To win the finals against the Monstars. That was the last game. The last series they played was against the Monstars.
00:54:16
Speaker
What's the Cavs? Young. What's the Cavs? Cavs, OK. 2016 Cavs. What you was wrong first? That's OK. So you should have waited. He did not get this right. Y'all going to die. Y'all are going to die with this. This was Dragon Ball Z. That one series, by the way, combined winning percentage of opponents was 67.4. Y'all see I haven't brought up a certain team yet. So keep that in mind. Now.
00:54:46
Speaker
I'm gonna just let y'all know off the bat, 72.6% combined winning percentage. This is considered the toughest roll to the final. Ever. Ever? That's right. They had to, they had to defeat. I don't even, man, listen, y'all can guess what conference it is. I'm not telling you. They had to beat pick and roll prime.
00:55:07
Speaker
They had to go through the desert of despair. They had to go through the Twin Towers and they had to end up beating the Ultimate Team, the Royal Warriors, Old School DX. You know, they had to beat the Heartbreak Kid and Owen Hart. The Ultimate Team, that melted down actually.
00:55:37
Speaker
What year? I'm not telling you what year. Hey, he's stopping us. Yeah. It's a year. Is this prime? Is this when we're like adults or this is like kid age? All right, I'll tell you this. We wasn't in middle school yet. The sons.
00:56:01
Speaker
I'm glad you're wrong. You died too. Who was the second round? What was it? The Twin Towers? The Twin Towers was the third round. If this is in the West, and the team is the West. And it got to the finals. It got to the finals. It had to go through Twin Towers. Utah. It's not Utah. Utah didn't win. But he said before we got to... I said pick and roll prime. So pick and roll prime is Utah.
00:56:29
Speaker
That was the first round. And they were actually 16 and 22. Is it Houston? I am Frieza. Yo, f- No. What? What if they ever go into the finals? You know what's sad? It is actually Houston. What? Houston in 95.
00:56:51
Speaker
They had to beat the 60 and 22 jazz, the 59 and 23, 59 and 23 sons, 62 and 20 Spurs, the 57 and 25 Magic, Shaq and Penny. That was a good game. That's the best you ever had.
00:57:15
Speaker
I just had to think about, I was like, wait. Y'all were all wrong first. Who was the pick and roll? Pick and roll prime is jazz. Okay. I couldn't tell y'all that. Cause if I told y'all that, you would've been like, oh, short shorts. That's what kind of got me, yeah. It was rocking. That kind of got, I was like, twin towers. Twin towers was Dave Robinson. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And TD, Timmy Dunkey.
00:57:37
Speaker
I honestly don't know what gave me the hit for the Rockets, honestly. I think it was the pick and roll. It was the West. I was knocking everything out. That's why I didn't want to tell y'all what year. I was knocking everything out. It was the toughest rule. I told y'all we all haven't heard the Bulls yet so that you would start thinking about the Bulls. No, you helped me out with that, too. So I was like, I got to eliminate that. I was like, who wasn't there when the Bulls were playing in the Western side back then? I was hoping that would
00:58:03
Speaker
Hey, that was a good one. Hey, that's all kind of woke me up. Look, the next one, right? I was on point. The next win, good things happen. I keep drinking this juice. You're not going to have a problem. I'm going to come in here floating like M Bison. I got to be careful. This guy.
00:58:21
Speaker
You didn't get any right. You cheated. It was after your guest first. You gotta listen to all the evidence. See, that's why I'm nice in the escape rooms. You saw it. We all went. You witnessed it. You gotta be careful. You know how I do. It's the R.A.B.S.E. Friends with Friends. It's the playoff edition, man. We gonna see you on the next episode. Peace. Peace.