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Transcript
NBA Night Overview
00:00:25
Speaker
It is friends versus friends, basketball, NBA talk, rumors, news, everything. We gonna talk that talk tonight, man. What is good with y'all? How y'all feeling?
00:00:38
Speaker
Y'all, I'm laughing at something I'm not supposed to do. You ain't, right? You still laughing about that story that we just heard? Like, it's not funny. It is funny. I mean, it is, but it's not funny. There's key parts of a sad story or part of it. It's hilarious to me, and I can't let it go. I think I know why it's funny. Yeah, it's hilarious. But I don't want to say it, but I know why.
00:01:02
Speaker
Yeah, cause you wish it would have happened to you. It's a one. No, that's okay. I've let all of that. I've given that person. I'm done. I'm done. When I moved out the crib, I was, I walked. Okay. Cause then I left and then that became their problem. And he was all, I can't believe like, I told you, I told you, boy,
00:01:30
Speaker
Yo, I was going, yo. That's hilarious.
Nuggets vs Heat Series Analysis
00:01:33
Speaker
Yo, so what is it? Game four just finished. It wasn't looking good at the half. We were watching a little bit of it. We were catching up.
00:01:44
Speaker
talking all mess at the end. But once I saw Denver on that run, I was like, Miami probably won't come back from that. What was the point? Did you? 3-1. They got blown out. 3-1 now. Oh, they took it further than that? Yeah, we kind of started that. So as soon as we saw them get it. 108.95. Yep.
00:02:06
Speaker
Like I said, Miami can stay tough if it's closed, if the margin is closed, but once they were going up, you even said Murray was doing this thing for a little bit, but Joker went, we saw that three, I was like, oh yeah.
00:02:19
Speaker
wide open three. Cause here's what keeps happening too. Whatever they try to do, they got to answer for it. Yeah, exactly. They got all them scoring bigs and one of them shoots. They're just a bigger team. Like Miami is the grit and grind and they don't give up, which I love about Miami, but Denver is just a bigger team overall. They're bigger than them. And then like,
00:02:42
Speaker
Miami has one big that can really score like that. Bam, yeah. Well, Bam, he's not gonna shoot, he's not the shooting threat. You were talking about Kevin. Yeah, Kevin can shoot, but when he wants to. He ain't going nowhere. No, he tried it tonight.
00:02:58
Speaker
Tried. He's about to get double teamed too. He pumped fake, both of them shot it. He missed it. I thought it was going in. But like, they just... He used to be sent to the pastures. He probably will after the next time they lose. Denver, where's their first championship?
Austin Rivers' Regret
00:03:18
Speaker
Wait, is it their first championship? First ever. Crazy. I only know one of y'all, right? Two.
00:03:26
Speaker
Two. I know two people who told me prior to five years ago that they were actually Nuggets fans. Two. They said that Austin Rivers was tight. He was like, yo, I'm not going to lie. I'm kind of hurt that I'm not there winning. He was like, I was like that. I mean, I love the honesty. I don't care. He should never got in that scuffle. That's why he got bounced.
00:03:48
Speaker
Maybe the son of a championship ring. No. They're not. I don't think so. I don't think so. Yo, check this out. I was just thinking about this. Do you think Miami probably would have beat the Suns last year? Like, if they had won the championship last year, you think they would be winning right now? Yeah, CP3 wouldn't be playing.
00:04:16
Speaker
Denver's so tough, bruh. They just so tough. You know what? Now I want to see them play Milwaukee.
00:04:26
Speaker
I'll be sobriety. I'll be just a man. Like Todd Milwaukee. Healthy Middleton. Healthy Brooks. Annoying, uh, what's his name? He's a low pass on like the talks about getting moved around, though. Well, he's a free agent. Houston's interested in him. Tony Snelling on it. Ugh. Portis, Bobby. Bobby Portis, that's what I meant. Yeah. He said Tony Snell. Tony Snell. I don't know what I mean. Oh, you forgot to add my boy, the dog on that squad.
00:04:56
Speaker
Grayson Allen. Arshi Diakonow. You forgot that ad. Grayson Allen. He's not even on that team no more. No, he plays for the Warriors. By the way,
Grayson Allen's Potential Move
00:05:06
Speaker
he has a player option. He wants to play with Golden State next year. But with a better contract. Yeah, why would he want to play with Golden State? Come on now. But you know who he's friends with. He's friends with. Josh Hart. And? Jaylen Brunsee. Yeah. I wouldn't mind him off the bench.
00:05:25
Speaker
We'll see how that goes. They have me tight, yo. Was it you who was on the phone with me, or was it Caitlin that was on the phone with me when they shot that shot?
00:05:37
Speaker
I was, I had to put the phone down, y'all. What happened? When it was North Carolina versus Villanova. Villanova, y'all. Oh. And that was the exact team I did not want to play, too. Oh, really? Yeah, because remember the last time, years ago, when we played Villanova in like the Final Four to get to the national championship, when we blew out Michigan State, we did something crazy.
00:06:05
Speaker
to them in the final seconds. We like, we did something, either we found Alan Ray and they never called it, it was bad. Or like,
00:06:18
Speaker
Something happened that was mad unfair in our advantage. And we won the game against Villanova and it went on to blow out Michigan State. I was like, man, next time we play Villanova in a game like that, something stupid is going to happen, right? So I really did not want to play them in National Championship. And they were so hot shooting so many people.
00:06:40
Speaker
And I was like, the next time, like, if they get the ball last, they're gonna shoot it and they're gonna make it. I knew it, I knew it. I knew it, yeah. And I saw him catch the ball and I was like, oh. There go the game, there go the game, yo.
00:07:01
Speaker
Ball went up in the air. I was like, this isn't really happening. And it hit. I had to put the phone down. I had to put my cell phone down. Remember the counter I used to have? I put it down right there. And I was just like, I sat down on the couch. I knew that was going to happen. It was hurt. It was hurt. Man, spit them rumors, bro. What we got?
00:07:24
Speaker
Yeah, hit the rumors. What we got, man? News or rumors? I'm going to say the one because I was breaking news. We'll talk about the adult entertainment later on. Whoa. Please tell me we got a guest coming. You know, never mind.
Suns' Interest in Harden
00:07:42
Speaker
We are all married. Man, that's not what I meant. Supposedly, rumors have it that Phoenix is interested in trying to pursue James Harden. Why?
00:07:55
Speaker
He's still best friends with KD. He's from the Arizona area. He went and played at Arizona State. I'm not even mad about that. That could probably happen. But there's going to be a lot of things that are going to have to happen. A, they're going to have to cut. And the rumor is they are going to cut Chris Paul.
00:08:13
Speaker
He has a partially guaranteed. I thought he was already out of business. Nah, it was rumored. It wasn't really reported. It was rumored that he got cut. But he actually had meetings with management. Because right now, his 24-25 contract
00:08:33
Speaker
It's $30 million. But out of the $30 million, $15 million is actually guaranteed. So it's dangling as an asset where someone's going to be like on the hook for only $15 million. So they're looking to either trade him. But if he doesn't get traded, there's three teams that are interested in him.
Chris Paul's Uncertain Future
00:08:48
Speaker
One, LA Lakers. Two, LA Clippers. Three, San Antonio Spurs. That's interesting.
00:08:59
Speaker
Spurs would be funny. Pop would have fun. But guess what? You know he's going to get hurt, so it doesn't matter. Yeah, stay healthy. Lakers would be interesting.
00:09:09
Speaker
It's too little, too late. What they gonna do? Fun fact. Yeah, because he's gonna get there and Brian's gonna be gone next year. Yeah. True. There's rumors. They're not gonna win next year. No. Two rumors for the Lakers. Half of management is interested in resigning AD, but they're concerned about his injury issues. Think? Yeah. This is defining characteristics.
00:09:34
Speaker
The other rumor is some management people really want to keep snitch. Really? Yeah. No. Why would you want to keep Daniel or Russell?
00:09:47
Speaker
A. Why? You need a, he's gonna be the backup point guard for him to get a real point guard? No, he's gonna be the starting point guard. No, no. So they're just done winning. Like, they're good. Some people in management really want to keep him. And then the whole rumor that they're saying is not true, because they said Bron didn't leak it and Kyrie didn't say it is Kyrie to the Lakers or Bron getting traded to Dallas.
00:10:13
Speaker
Yeah, I saw that. That was hilarious. The only way the Lakers would trade Bron is if they got Luca. Mark Cuban would be pissing in his pants right now if that happened. Luca, Kyrie, and LeBron? I don't even think that sounds right.
00:10:30
Speaker
The only person that's a go bucket getter. No. Yeah, that's Kyrie. Kyrie. Kyrie. Kyrie. Luca gets buckets too when he wants to, but I'm just saying like. Luca's become a hand case. LBJ. Yeah, him and Lebron can't share the floor. Nah, they can't. I don't think so. That would be terrible. And I'd feel bad for Luca, because Luca would be like, what the hell just happened? You coming to my team? Why didn't this happen?
00:10:57
Speaker
What's up, what's up? Now, we're going to talk about two Hall of Famers. One was sober, one was high as hell. Did you all see the clip? A Paul Peirce and KG the truth. Yo, Paul Peirce was pulled up mad lit, yo.
00:11:20
Speaker
KG trying to save his boy. With a girlfriend that he purchased.
Paul Peirce's On-Air Gaffe
00:11:25
Speaker
Purchased, yo. A professional girlfriend. He even said it. He said it.
00:11:31
Speaker
Yo, that's hilarious. I couldn't believe that someone didn't like cut the stream off. No, they just, they had it. I mean, KG said, yo, we working like, and yo, KG tried to keep us cool. He was like, hey, nice to meet you. Okay, let's get back to it. So many times he tried to tell bro, like, yo, we are, yo, we're live bro. Just to let you know.
00:11:52
Speaker
No, we're not live. We're not live. Yeah. When Paul looked at the camera and was like, oh. No, he was like, let me see the comments. He looked at it and he was like, oh, we live. Yeah, he's not. Totally. And then he changed afterwards. But he was still like, yo, he took him glasses off. You can see, bro. It was like just like that one video he had when he was playing poker at the crib. He didn't learn. He didn't learn.
00:12:21
Speaker
I mean, he loves professional. He got fired from ESPN. Cost of a job. He said he wanted to get fired. Honestly, he said he wanted. I think there you go. Can't fire me. I quit. If you want to take me out, take me out like this. That's what he said. That is the way to go out.
00:12:39
Speaker
poker, girls. Didn't his wife divorce him after that too? If he was married, she saw that shit. Oh shit. She fired him. He paying that child. He paying that alimony.
00:12:53
Speaker
KG is too. And he got children. He paying child support and alimony. KG is? His wife filed for divorce. He didn't. His wife is surprised. And I think his child support payment is like $15,000 a year. Here comes the money.
00:13:12
Speaker
That actually scared the shit out of me. That actually scared the shit out of me. I feel, Dame is telling the Blazers management like, yo, trade the third pick and go get me a superstar. Who though? Who is hitting it? There's three players that he's interested in. One's in Toronto, one's in Boston, the other one's in Brooklyn. Pascal. Pascal in Toronto, Jalen in Boston, Mikel Bridges in Brooklyn.
00:13:42
Speaker
Good luck with it. I say Pascal, yeah. I see that kind of working out. I'd say Bridges. Bridges is a silent player. For the third round pick, I would need extra. For a third pick overall, yeah. For the third round pick? For the third pick overall, not a third round. There's only two rounds in that. That's around me, the third pick. I'd take Bridges. First of all, Bridges came with a boatload of picks from Phoenix. Yeah. I'd take Bridges.
00:14:12
Speaker
and people are not understanding, Bridges is on a contract. Jaylen is about to be due for Super Max. Pascal, he's good, but he sometimes don't be in the zone. I don't think he unlocked the full potential. Yeah, Bridges is somewhere where he doesn't talk, he just plays, and that's it. He was known as 3 and D. She's in hard plays. Evelinova, and he elevated his shot.
00:14:39
Speaker
He does what he does. He's a silent leader. But would the Nets do that after what they saw him do just in a short amount of time? For the third pick, maybe. For the third pick, maybe. I would think they would want to invest in him at this point. Like, yo, let's build around, bro. Like, we saw what you can do in a couple of games. Like, let's hoop. They're about to have to rebuild. Let's rebuild around, bro.
00:15:01
Speaker
But you're saying the third round, I mean the third or second would definitely. You can go get Brandon Miller, you can go get Scoot Henderson, you can go get, it's not a great draft. Even ESPN, it's not, it's like a lot, it's a heavy freshman group. Top heavy. It's like literally top three and then it's literally a lottery ticket for everyone else. They got the Twins and the G League, they got,
00:15:28
Speaker
One boy out of Houston, Walker, they got the boy from Villanova, who's a very good shooter, but it's literally all these freshmen would be lower in the first round pick. Some of them probably would be in the second round pick if it was actually like a better draft in class, but...
00:15:45
Speaker
It is what it is, but they're also, Portland's also saying that they would trade Anthony Simmons so that they could also get that star player. It also would have to make sense because a cap, salary cap restrictions and salary coming in, got a match for salary coming out. This one I feel bad for a little bit, just a little bit.
00:16:14
Speaker
We have... Dame actually said his trade list involves only a certain selected team. Miami and Boston, you don't want to go to the Celtics. I would.
00:16:33
Speaker
I think he's tired of Portland. I don't know if he's actually realized that there's no shot in the world for Portland ever to make the playoffs again, or he finally realized it doesn't matter about loyalty, just worry about myself.
00:16:47
Speaker
It seemed like he's tapping into that, because he's outspoken about a lot of things right now. Yeah, I mean, he paid his dues. Yeah, he's saying, like, I need division. If it's not rocking with me, let's go. But I don't know if you're going to say the rest of where he said he would like to go. Unless I can spoil it. Miami and Brooklyn. He admitted the Celtics. He also admitted the Knicks, because at one time, he only wanted to go to the Knicks. Knicks and the Lakers.
00:17:14
Speaker
But then, we did what we did. Yeah, we don't even need that anymore. Yeah. Nope. But how does that work with Jimmy and him? I don't really see that working. Why? I do see it better in Brooklyn for him. I see it looking fine. Two alpha dogs. For that, Jimmy needs the ball predominantly all the time. Dang, he's always about shooting.
00:17:42
Speaker
I don't think that will work chemistry-wise. I think it will work. I think it will work. Dame is about the big shots, definitely. So is Jimmy, but they don't have that outside presence. Jimmy's not stepping outside like that. He's all mid-range, and he's going to the cup. Dame can basically stay out there, and he's by the logo, so it's perfect spacing for that.
00:18:08
Speaker
And then what else? What do you have after that? You're trading out a lot of things for days. I mean, we don't know what they're going to give up. They're going to have to give up a lot. Tyler Hero is definitely gone. Yeah, he's getting shipped. I think they're going to keep depending on how, like I said, salary coming in, salary coming out. Yeah. So BAM would probably be going. You're going to have BAM is his boy. He said.
00:18:31
Speaker
Bam is his dog, so that's why he will go there in the first place. Yeah, that's great, but if you try to trade... I mean, but if Bam is his dog, he wants to go there, and he's like, well, Bam's leaving. I only wanted to go for him to be teamed up with my dog. Like, he's not gonna go. But he don't have a trade. He doesn't have no trade clause, so wherever they send him, you going. Yeah, I mean, if Bam's not there, if it's Bam, Dame, and Jimmy, you can move around those jobs. I think you can move some pieces around. You can go on the Sacramento.
00:19:02
Speaker
I like Brooklyn. Brooklyn, he got a young core. Bridges if Bridges stays. Bridges probably have to go. That's wild. I don't want to say the same situation but like...
00:19:15
Speaker
Well, but it's just him being traded, I guess. But then also, Simmons would have to go. Ben Simmons would have to go. Because of his cap number, he definitely would have to go. So he's out. So he's going to have the ball all the time. We were forgetting brothers in the league. Yeah, so you already know. He would keep you forgetting. So he looks like a Dn right now. I'd be like, Simmons? Oh, he does? I mean, I don't know if it's AI or whatever, but he looks like. Hey, I don't know. AI?
00:19:45
Speaker
A, my favorite that we're gonna talk about for last rumors and news. This guy has been in the news about his health, his non-performance on the court. When is he coming back on the court?
Zion Williamson's Media Scrutiny
00:20:00
Speaker
He goes by the name of Zion Williams. I'm about to say, he's for Zaxby's. Hey, Zax songs be killin'! Zion Williams, y'all know, you don't know, has been in the media for not one
00:20:13
Speaker
Not two, but three baby mamas that are all coming out the woodwork. One of them is the actual baby mamas.
00:20:22
Speaker
The other one's saying she is. The other one's saying that she might be because she's mad. She just said that she is now. And then the third one is snitching just for clout. One of them was like, a noose has nothing to do for clout. It's like, yeah, it is. Nobody asked you. Nobody even knew he was on a radar. Right. He is. Somebody needs to start talking, like, protect the young players from the BBL's community. You know what I'm saying? Like, tell them they are targeting you because they know you're big and goofy.
00:20:52
Speaker
and like to just spend money so that you can floor down there too. Can you get no paper signed? Like, ayo, let's not talk about this if I'm like in your guts. Let's not go. And ain't no more OGs. But then, what's crazy is this. You got her though, right? That's a good deal.
00:21:14
Speaker
You know what I'm saying? You're mad at him, cuss him out behind the seat, kick his ass when you get down there. No, she wanted all the smoke to be out there. He should've known better. You blew it up, so now...
00:21:25
Speaker
Now you're not going out there probably. He literally can't mess with you in good faith cause it's like. Unless she really is pregnant. I look, I don't think she, now she's pregnant. She cried that she was pregnant. She said, I'm late. You, uh, you believe. I don't believe. Yeah, I was about to say. If I was Zion, Zion might remember she started threatening about, uh,
00:21:51
Speaker
Whatchamacallit, his baby mama, and then Zion's family was like, yo, if you're in Atlanta, we'll take care of you. And then she apologized, and then she went on another rant. She's losing her NIL deal she had with Zion. She's about to get beat up in Atlanta. Like, come on, huh? Hey, yo. For what? She looks dumb on social media. Even the ladies is not backing in. They're like, this is...
00:22:20
Speaker
She's embarrassing herself. At the end of the day, some of these young homies need a whole class, bro. They probably have them, but they don't listen. They need a whole class. Because you know what? You realize somewhere right now, in this next draft class, is some guy who's going to sign a deal for 46, 37 guaranteed, two years. And he is going to DM a porn star.
00:22:47
Speaker
or an IG model and expel in her and get her pregnant. Like these dudes are still doing it. They didn't learn from Brad. Who got PJ Tucker? No, PJ Washington? No, I'm gonna say PJ Tucker. Yeah, PJ Washington. His BM just went to dinner with Shaq. Oh, snap.
00:23:09
Speaker
I've seen that, and I'm just ignoring that. Like, it didn't happen to me. Shaq probably gotten them guts. I don't know what he got. But she wrote a whole book about how the system works. She's like...
00:23:24
Speaker
Teaching college players is like yeah, this is what my type of chicks do look like Dion put the on Dion brought her out there It is a bit Dion basically embarrassed her but he was like look this again. No shame. Yeah I think I thought she said she felt some type of way. He's just like yeah, stop messing with these chicks. Listen to her She's stupid like she's telling you
00:23:46
Speaker
that they're going to play you. Yo, that was the smartest thing ever. I don't know. But it's the dudes that's like, you know, and I know I'm sitting here without the millions and without the porn stars, but I'm saying without both. But it's like, yes, some point you got to realize like this chick is known for blowing stuff up. Do I want to be blown up?
00:24:11
Speaker
No, you know what I'm saying? Then look, why are you even in a committed relationship? Your NBA supposed to be superstar. Yeah, I mean, hey man. All right, our first topic. That's hilarious. Our first topic of the day, the finals.
Denver's Strategic Advantage
00:24:31
Speaker
Now we know it's 3-1 now.
00:24:34
Speaker
Does Denver actually go win the next one? Or does the Heat have a little bit left in the tank? The Heat can do whatever they want. I mean, they can win the next game if they want to. It's cute, but they're going to lose the series. The series is done. It's not done, but not yet, but they're going to lose the series. You don't think there's any hope?
00:25:01
Speaker
There's always hope. I think they can probably get one more game. And with great power comes great responsibility. They will have to get one game. But they're going to lose the championship. Yeah, they're not winning that. Remember, people didn't think, well, look, we all thought they were going to take care of business. Oh, we saw today. Oh, we saw today. Because here's when I know I'm done on a basketball court is when they start making the easy shots, like just high percentage in the paint.
00:25:30
Speaker
That's what I'm saying. They got all types of bigs and then one that plays inside and out. And he's also a facilitator to the other ones making shots inside. It is a wrap. No answer for what they got going on. Because they got the shooting. You want to shut that down. Then now all of a sudden you're dealing with these moving pieces inside. You don't have dudes who are going to, you don't have two bigs.
00:25:57
Speaker
who are going to stop all of them in there. And then at any point in time, one of the ones outside can be Yogesh. And then you go out there to him and he makes a perfect pass back inside or to Murray. You double him. He gives it back to Yogesh who can shoot. Like it's I don't think they're going to win.
00:26:19
Speaker
man, at the end of it, it's just like, Dad, Miami did all this work just to get like one W. And that was a good win for them. But the Nuggets, they was coming back. It was a tough fight. Like they almost, they could have won that game, really. It was one shot away. One shot away, they could have won that game. So it was just like, again, the heat fall all the way just to get there. But I don't think they got it. What you think, Stat?
00:26:48
Speaker
I thought they were gonna win in six. Tonight, Miami. You thought Jimmy was gonna will them too. Yeah, night night. But you seeing how it works right now. They might. They're gonna lose next game. I don't think they're gonna win another game. It's in Denver too, isn't it? Yeah. It's in Denver, right? Yeah. Nah. Because they were close and then Denver has that thing where they can pull away.
00:27:14
Speaker
They control it. Remember the Warriors used to do that? The Warriors used to let you kind of be, going back and forth. And then halfway through the third quarter. It's over. They just pouring in an extra couple of liters. All four of them. You got the bench players playing. 17 points. You got Clay and Curry just tapping into Draymond laughing because they got the bench players out there chilling. They was resting that a couple of seasons ago, bro. None of them had porn stores.
00:27:43
Speaker
Not that we know of, which is also a good thing, because everybody shut up, everybody got what they needed. We'll find out in the Warriors last dance. Yeah, I was about to say. Man, they not snitching. Draymon is. Nah. If he hitting, he snitching. He married? What? Yeah, he's not snitching. You think Dray's a snitch? OK. Yeah, you didn't Draymon a snitch. He'll be the next one getting their ass kicked in court.
00:28:10
Speaker
You know who else would probably snitch? Jordan. He's gonna snitch about what Draymond did and then Draymond's letting it all out. Who said Jordan? Jordan Poole. Oh, Jordan Poole? He gonna snitch first and then he gonna- I won't even listen to what he did after he did all that, um, I spiced stuff. I'm not even listening to his information. After? He's still not with that?
00:28:34
Speaker
I don't know, I just know the first thing I heard about it was Goofy. What do you spot, like what, five grand on the first thing? Five, 500k. Five hundred grand. Wow. All after he got that big contract. I was ready for that one. Okay, what we got next?
00:29:03
Speaker
This was news, but this person gets his own special topic. Frank Vogel got hired. I didn't like this. I actually wanted Doc to get this job. It was perfect, lined up for him. He was gonna get his... Oh, he didn't get picked up yet, did he? No. Damn. Not at all. The only open job out there is Toronto's, and he ain't going to Toronto. That's disrespectful for him. He deserves a playoff-contending team with just the pieces that he had like Boston. You should say something nice about him.
00:29:33
Speaker
I've always said that he should've never went to Philly. Where was he supposed to go? He could've been the next coach. But then you still wouldn't hate him more. Nah, I actually wanted him to be the next coach. There was Mark Jackson or him. Those were the two I went and Jeff Mangundi, but Mangundi didn't want that.
00:29:52
Speaker
I didn't want him going to Philly. What did he have? He had Simmons who couldn't shoot or would not want to shoot. You had Embiid who is an MVP, but he was always hurt. You had Tobias Harris, who is getting paid like a starter, but is a sixth man or seventh man off the bench. What was Doc gonna do with that? Nothing. He had Robert Covington. No, he got traded for Jimmy Butler, remember?
00:30:21
Speaker
No, I don't. He was part of that trade to get Jimmy Butler there. So what did Doc have? Doc, at least, would have actually did what Tibbs did, but it would have been better, and Tibbs would actually have, not Tibbs, Doc would have had a fun time with a point guard in jailing. Now again, Phoenix, the reason why I say Phoenix,
00:30:49
Speaker
Chris Paul, Chris Paul's gonna either get cut or traded. Cameron Payne is somewhat like a Rondo type. He isn't like a great shooter, but he's a good facilitator. You have Booker in a shooter as long as he stays healthy. You had KD. You had three, you had three people that Doc would have actually had fun coaching. And the system that he does would have worked for them versus in Philly. It didn't work in Lob City.
00:31:18
Speaker
It only worked for him in Boston. That's why I said, again, Doc should have never went to Philly. But what should it be for Frank? Frank's like a, well first, play the clip, then I'll say what I have to say. I thought he was a defensive guy.
00:31:36
Speaker
Frank Vogel are finalizing a five-year deal to make him the franchise's next coach, delivering him the opportunity to coach stars Kevin Duran and Devin Booker. Vogel comes with a 2020 NBA championship as head coach of the Lakers in a history of constructing elite defenses. Now he's gonna be tasked
00:31:53
Speaker
with guiding the sun's b and he's got two of the g ever play this game on a s in Booker and Durant who the third most points per history this past run. Okay
00:32:14
Speaker
My answer, honestly, is that I'm not sure because it's not really about Frank Vogel. It's about who they acquire and put on that roster for him to coach. What they have is not enough for him to get them to the finals. I can tell you that much. Not with Denver still in this conference for years to come, but obviously they need additional personnel. But let me say this about Frank Vogel, okay? Frank Vogel's a good coach.
00:32:39
Speaker
And a lot of people gave him a bad rap to some degree. Let's be very, very clear.
00:32:46
Speaker
The man knows how to coach defense. He's been to three conference finals, eight finals, and he's won an NBA championship. He won 58% of his games in the six years he was in Indy. He won about 56% of his games the three years that he was in Los Angeles. He obviously felt like he should have been there. He felt shafted when he was let go by Jeannie Buston, the Los Angeles Lakers. And he's got a chip on his shoulders, and he's out to prove and remind people what a quality coach he is.
00:33:15
Speaker
It remains to be seen whether he'll pull that off or not, but having Kevin Durant and Devin Booker as your cornerstones for your franchise is certainly a good way to go. But the man does know how to coach a little bit. He's not a scrub coach. He's not ignorant. He knows what he's doing. It's going to be really interesting to see. I'm glad that he got this opportunity for himself. He does have some things to prove, but I do think that it really doesn't come down to him. It comes down to
00:33:41
Speaker
who James Jones or whomever else Ispia puts in that position, who they're gonna put on that roster surrounding Devin Booker and KD. Because clearly they let go of a lot of bodies, probably one too many bodies, which had a lot to do with why they went home early.
00:34:02
Speaker
All right, so yes, Frank won a championship. Yes, he's a defensive oriented coach. I don't see what they made it sound like they brought the best out of AD. I don't see that. I've always looked at Frank Vocal as like a mid to mid. Call him mid. He's like not a mid level coach. He's like,
00:34:28
Speaker
a coaster you see for Orlando, Indiana where he coached. I remember that. That's where I remember him from. Yeah, he got a whole ship though. He's from Jersey too, Point Pleasant Beach. He got a whole ring though. Yeah, and the bubble. He is the bubble. He got it. So the bubbling counts. No, I said he got the bubble ring.
00:34:48
Speaker
People complain about that, I'm not saying anything. He got it. The thing that hurt, like, the thing that's so weird, when people say stuff like that, it's like, didn't you play in a bubble too? If it was easier, how come you didn't win? They called the bubble ring. He got the bubble ring. And you lost the bubble ring. You know what I'm saying? Like, you wasn't in the pool. I don't see him as a coach that he could really bring out the best out of KD. The best out of Booker.
00:35:15
Speaker
Defensively, he's gonna make a team defensively sound great, but I don't think he knows how to really elevate players. He never had to elevate LeBron. AD was still hungry for his championship. He could not- The broad players they have for that squad though.
00:35:31
Speaker
For what? Kuzma, KCP, Rondo. Yeah, but he had a championship runner in K, Rondo, so he knew how to win. Yo, how many chips Rondo got? He had Danny Green, so KD's not who? Rondo got three chips? Uh, Cavs.
00:35:51
Speaker
He got a Cavs championship, too? I mean, not Cavs. Boston. Boston. Lakers. Two. That's it, yeah. Boston only won once? Yeah, they only won once. Because remember, they lost to the Lakers. They act like they were the bad boys, like they won, like, three championships. Nah, but when they got put together, they was nice, and they won. I remember that one. Yeah. They should have won, but they lost with the Kobe. They beat Kobe the one time, and Kobe beat them the other time.
00:36:22
Speaker
But that was a veteran, well-run team. And they had Dwight. KD's picky with his coaches. Booker, cool. CP3, I don't think. We don't think he gonna be there, first of all. He may not be there.
00:36:44
Speaker
I'm pretty sure he's not gonna be there. Nah, I just saw, I thought Doc was a better coach fit for that. Plus also, and no one talks about this, Nick Nurse actually got the job offered. He got both jobs offered, one to Philly, one for Phoenix. He took Philly over Phoenix because of Embiid. Why? He wanted to coach the MVP.
00:37:10
Speaker
Oh, okay. Hey, they pressed Nick Nurse early. They were like, hey, we need to know now. You think y'all good? You think Harder gonna stay? Like, he was not ready for that Philly Press. He was like, uh, I think that, you know, he gave the nice answer. I'd have been like, I don't know. Yeah, right. That's what he should've said. He was like, you know, why do people do that? Why do people ask me a question? I guess what? I don't know. Shut up. Philly Press just got here. Yeah, don't. Who does he sign? They're like, hey, where you think he going, bruh?
00:37:39
Speaker
He staying? He ain't no. I don't know. He has no answer for that. If they ask me, can I ask me a different question? I really don't know. But if Frank Vogel was that, how come he wasn't their first pick?
00:37:52
Speaker
Nick Nurse was their first pick. He was in negotiations with both. They both offered him the job. Nick said no to Phoenix, but he took it for Philly. So if Frank was that good, why wouldn't they even have to wait for Nick to say no to them? He wasn't in a good position. He wasn't trusting the process yet.
00:38:16
Speaker
This wasn't part of the process. Are we still in the process? No, that's dead. I think the process is dead once they trade and beat away. Because that's the last piece of the process. That's the last player who's still from that whole process. Markel Folsus, he started that? Nah. No, he was in the beginning of it. He was in the middle of it. He was in the process. Because what's his name? First was Nurls Noel.
00:38:43
Speaker
Yeah. Then it was, then it was, then it was Okafur. Jallu. Oh my God. Jallu. Then I think it was Simmons. Then it was Embiid. Then it was Fultz. Those were the five players that were trusting the process. Finished. They're finished. You know what process we should trust? This is the next topic. In Pippin we trust.
00:39:13
Speaker
We should trust that he's tripping. We should trust that process that he's emotionally hurt. Sounds terrible. He has had his ass kicked in life. The last dance has done him dirty. His ex-wife has done him dirty. Jordan's son has done him dirty. The only thing that hasn't done him dirty
00:39:40
Speaker
It's his career, but your Brian, please play the clip of this guy talking some greasy stuff.
Scottie Pippen's Controversial Comments
00:39:49
Speaker
LeBron will be the greatest statistical guy to ever play the game of basketball. And there's no comparison to him, none.
00:39:58
Speaker
So does that make him the greatest player to ever play the game? I'll leave that out for debating because I don't believe that there's a great player because our game is a team game and one player can't do it. Like I seen Michael Jordan play before I came to play with the Bulls. You guys seen him play. He's a horrible player. He was horrible to play with. He was all one on one. He's shooting bad shots and
00:40:22
Speaker
All of a sudden, we become a team, and we start winning. Everybody forgot who he was. OK. Hater. That's it. So do we roast Scotty now, or do we give him another moment of silence? I say wait for the game.
00:40:45
Speaker
I think he's gonna get you know, I think someone's just gonna just blast them. Like I think it's gonna get worse. Well, the situation with his ex. Well, here's the thing. It's getting worse. Like she won't get pregnant. Oh, it's him and just the way he reacts to everything. Cause it's like
00:41:04
Speaker
The more he comes out, the more he seems like a clown. And it's like, yo, just like, it wouldn't even look this bad if you hadn't said this already. You're like, just stop saying stuff. Yeah. Because we said this last year when I had to fry Scottie Pippen and Flombe Scottie Pippen, like,
00:41:26
Speaker
He got his credit like everybody like it was I liked it better when we didn't know how he really felt Yeah, and he was just carrying it like the last dance messed him up Well, you know what? He messed itself up because the last dance and made him look like the unsung hero Until he got the the migraine
00:41:50
Speaker
Yeah, but that's one thing where he acted like a hoe, but after that, it was still cool. But then he came out with the, I wasn't paid, right? And it's like, don't you decide that. You messed up your own contract, bro. You didn't know he was doing it. Yeah, I think he just sucks at business. I think he sucks at- He owned his own jet. He lost money in that. He sucks at business.
00:42:13
Speaker
A lot of people say that's not a good investment. And he does not make good finance. Like he just, he doesn't make big money moves and you have to. And if you don't, yeah, like Jordan. I think the funny is the fact that Jordan has not said anything. That's what makes, that's what's fucking Scotty up. Like that's what's making it worse.
00:42:36
Speaker
Jordan did. He just sent Marcus to go handle his life. It wouldn't even be right. It wouldn't even be right to say something at this point. Scotty's doing it to herself. When she gets pregnant.
00:42:49
Speaker
It's over. She's like 60. That's the chess move. Yo, there is going to be smiling like, yo, that's my, that's my grandchild. Honestly, Jordan might be like, that's a damn shame. That's a shame. That's hilarious. And that's even that, that's not Scotty's fault. That's her just wanting to be like,
00:43:14
Speaker
It's the fact that everybody knows that's like, yo, he's just hurt, like he's hating. Everybody knows he is a hating.
00:43:22
Speaker
Ass person right now. Even the media has been like, that's, he's going way too far. Yeah, like, you know, you know your boy is nice. Why you saying he's not? He was cooking. That's why he got, that's why he got the shoe deal. You know, the one to set the precedence for all other shoe deals. Yep. The greatest. He set the bar. Yeah, come on bro. There. Come on now. He should've known better.
00:43:50
Speaker
Now since you said you have a game and it's going to involve Scotty, I'm going to pass you the baton. I'm going to catch the baton at some point. Y'all know I refuse to do it until my music. Like, me and music have to have it on the go, Shibuya. Basically, there's been a lot of people who have binge ripping.
00:44:19
Speaker
been bugging out, it's just been a lot of goofy stuff. Multiple people just bugging out. We're gonna do a case study and it's like, what fire is the easiest to put out? Who do you think situation is easiest to salvage? I mean, we got Scottie Pittman.
00:44:48
Speaker
We got John Morant. Oh snap, yeah. We got now Zion Williamson. I'm sure there was somebody else. Just think about somebody else who's been doing stupid stuff. I think it's top tier right now. It's pretty much, they're running the gamut. This NBA season right now. This season alone has been a lot of just like, what is going on?
00:45:18
Speaker
So, like, I don't even know, I haven't even picked anybody yet. Like, whose situation do you solve? Like, how could you fix this? Not Scotty's. Scotty's is gonna do it. No, Scotty might be the one. Cause right, if he would, if he would just shut up and go sit down somewhere, he could still salvage this. Because if he hadn't said that hating stuff about Michael Jordan, right? In the beginning. Just shut, shut up.
00:45:46
Speaker
go sit down somewhere. What he needs is some money, you know what I'm saying? He needs some business about him, some money, because I don't care how bad it hurts, right? If I met, literally, bro. He needs to get his mind right and like,
00:46:04
Speaker
Stay off the weed. He needs to have that. He needs to start doing side quests like Snoop Dogg. Like he needs to completely divorce his stuff from the Larsa thing. Like if I was him, I'd be like, listen, first of all, I'm gonna need that name back. You're not Larsa Pippen anymore. That's my name. Like get her out the way. And then like somebody's gonna ask her like, you know,
00:46:34
Speaker
Like just, I wouldn't want to be associated with her and her thought activity. But any side quest he does, he's going to get roasted. Yeah, so that's not to be saved. Jaws is the second hardest. Zion's is easy. Wrap it up. Stop smashing prostitutes, porn stars. It's the embarrassment of how goofy he is with his DMs. He was always, I mean, how much?
00:47:04
Speaker
Do I that's what I'm saying? Do you go to Duke? That's what you're nerdy dudes getting money that was dirty
00:47:14
Speaker
I can't even back that one up. Yeah, man. We were too busy on the court. I wanted to tag y'all in a status that was busy at work. What? We got Zay, we got you, we got Josh. Josh is up there posting stuff about Marvel and DC. Nigga, don't talk about Juggernaut. You know what I'm saying? He did that. He was posting about the Juggernaut and everything. I'm sitting there liking him because I like comic books and I'm like, Josh,
00:47:41
Speaker
There's something at hand. Y'all stuff to do. But I didn't even do it. I didn't even do it to y'all. And then I found out the third shake came. I was like, yo. The third one came. I was like, did I just read this again? I was like, yo, there's another joint. Like, what? That's wild. Believe me, this has nothing to do with clout. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She was. Yeah, come on. You just got to find out about you. Everybody just clicked on who would you look like?
00:48:06
Speaker
So we're trying to see which one of the jaws look better. If one of them come out saying that they're burning with some STD. No, they're not gonna say that. What? What? That one would.
00:48:18
Speaker
That one would. Mariah? Dang, why you gonna say that one? Why you just just... That Mariah? Mariah? There's three. I was trying to just put it in a way that you could infer. But if you want to put her name out there, we could tag her on our page. Hey, I don't want her involved in the Twitter war on our... We wouldn't even have a Twitter like that. There we go. We do? You don't even have Twitter?
00:48:45
Speaker
I'm gonna be on Twitter like that. Hey, that's where it's at. I just saw her... And she was tagging the hell out of Zion. Every tweet Zion at Zion. Yeah, it's actually getting comically like... I mean, the conversation can be talked about with his BM, but then when that third one is just like, tag. I just already like... Said, no, I did this. Then another Jon came like, dang, he probably didn't even work that one up.
00:49:16
Speaker
The thing that the funniest zero chess moves he sucks This he literally contacted them to see how much he could pay not to just Enjoy what they offer but to move them out there. Oh, yeah And Mariah was thinking she was gonna do that poly life
00:49:39
Speaker
Well then why does she just do it? She messed that up. She's the one who got so mad and what's crazy is like y'all wasn't in a relationship. So why is she so mad?
00:49:50
Speaker
Hey, she thought she was the only one. You could still get the money. She said, I was there for you when he was hurt. I mean, he can't tell. He wasn't getting back on the court. He was too busy. That was killing me, too. She was like, after everything I've done for you, it was like, what did she do for him that she hasn't done on camera? We know what you did for him. It didn't necessarily help. That brother was in the house.
Zion Williamson's Injuries
00:50:14
Speaker
That's why they kept saying he had that reoccurring, I've had it too, but the reoccurring hamstring injuries. When Emory was supposed to come back January 2nd. Then he was supposed to come back at the end of January. Then he was supposed to come back in February and then it was like indefinite. Dude was in this room choir clapping, man. He said choir clapping. Yo, what?
00:50:42
Speaker
Remember back at Kutztown it used to be Forgive Me Father, Father I've seen you. Forgive Me Father. Come back with her like this. Blessings. Blessings upon blessings. He juggled three of them joints. But see, that's the thing. None of it was players. So it's like, whoa.
00:51:05
Speaker
Here's where it becomes not his fault. When they come out snitching, that's when it's like, what are you... See, the best thing for him would have been to be single, right? And even if the text message just came out, it's like, well, you're a professional.
00:51:21
Speaker
What's the number? What's up? You know what I'm saying? Just give me the number. You can have the number. This is what you do, right? Yeah. But it is. Yeah. That's your job. Just saying. Hire better PR people, and that could be under the rug. That's easy. Jaws is a problem. He ain't coming back. It was a toy. Crazy. I think he'll be back. But I think they're going to smack him up a little bit now over there.
00:51:50
Speaker
Yeah. At least he has on his side that he was young. I wasn't impressionable. I stopped being friends with those guys. He said all that crap. It was a toy. No one believes him at this point. So really, realistically, what is the like the easiest one to get out of? Like to be like, all right, cool. That's not that bad. I think we're going. I think we're John.
00:52:16
Speaker
If he just... He already lied. He already said that crap already. Yeah, but if he just sits down somewhere and just is a normal person... Like, Loki does his suspension, whatever how long it is, and just comes back and who... Does Make-A-Wish... Charities... Ayo...
00:52:34
Speaker
Some turkeys, some backpacks. So turkeys, backpacks, backpacks, free sneaks, free sneaks, free sneaks. Yeah, team kicks. He better, he could go study at a college campus or something. He needs to do something like that. He needs to do something like that and then he could be back. Get on like an animated series and be like a guest feature. Being outside, whatever.
00:53:01
Speaker
Even me, you know. I see. What muscle? Bob, yeah. So Pippin can't just chill out or it's too late. Pippin is too late. That's done. No reason why Pippin probably can't chill out is because the final chance move is that Shorty gonna get pregnant and it's just like, dang. But that's the thing. It comes back. Number one, what that got to do with me.
00:53:27
Speaker
I've gotten her pregnant like four times, so you're playing horse behind me, so that's why I'm saying he should've... They're gonna tag him. They're gonna ask him. They're still dirty, though. They're gonna keep asking about him. How do you feel about that? But you know why? You know why they're asking him? Because they expect a reaction.
00:53:49
Speaker
Yeah, and he can't control his action. He's a grown man. He needs to control that. He can't. That's why that's the hardest one. She's been out of there for so long now. It's been years. And it's been knowing that he was like... So that's what I would do. I'd be like, you know what? He's dating her every second of the day. Which is like... Yeah, I mean, it should be normal. She made it seem like it was like, oh my God.
00:54:09
Speaker
yeah but you know it's crazy now you're just getting tagged every second of the day by just randoms like so it doesn't matter that's number one number two like i'm sure she didn't have any have any um you know complaints when she was scotty pippin's wife when he was hot
00:54:26
Speaker
Yeah, in the 90s and everything when he was on top of the world, now all of a sudden it's a problem. She was like, I just feel bad because I didn't get to live my life. I was raising kids. Yeah, that's what happens when you're married and you raise kids. You made that choice. It's crazy.
00:54:48
Speaker
But if I were him, I would have been like, cool, you want to go live your own life? Number one, I'm going to need my name. So stop calling yourself that. Then she would be this whole other name. And they wouldn't be tagging him and his kids and stuff like that. Because she don't even look like she'd be with Scotty Pippin. She looks like a soccer mom.
00:55:16
Speaker
She needs to hang out with Jordan's ex-wife. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. She needs to hang out with Jordan's ex-wife to learn how to be quiet under the rug after being divorced.
00:55:33
Speaker
Let her be stupid. Let her run amok. Do whatever she wants to do. I'm gonna need my name back. Scotty should have went and had a therapist and cried behind closed doors for six months. And then he should have been like, I'm Scotty Pippin.
00:55:55
Speaker
Let me retro my sneakers. You know what I'm saying? Like, let me retro my sneakers. Let me do something with Supreme. Like, what's hot in the streets? What are they doing? Go get you some business about you. Yeah, go. Come on, bro. Let me get my AAU. Yeah, let me get my AAU program going. Let me do my vitamin water stuff. Like, let me do that. Nah, if anybody tell them no, we can't do that.
00:56:18
Speaker
Well, I'm just saying, talk to 50 or something. Like, keep it player. Yeah. He's too old to like, they had OGs. He's old enough. They had OGs. Oh.
00:56:32
Speaker
That was his bully. Oh, he was his OG. Oh, obviously, yo, come on. But you know somebody to come by and be like, all right, now. My son right now is of little baby dating age, which he is doing. And I scoop him all the time like, hey, man, check this out. You know what I'm saying? I talk to him about that stuff. And then he comes to me with stuff like, I'm not going to lie. I hit this. I don't know how to deal with that.
00:57:01
Speaker
I tell him what needs to be said. And not even like on some pimp stuff, it's just like the mindset is this, and remember you're only 13, and remember, like somebody should have been telling him, like, bro, you are Scotty Pippin. Plus, Michael and Oakley are like this. Oh, so he ain't gonna, yeah. That's his boy. That's his boy better than Ewing to Oakley. His hating is what messed him up. So he come out with a book or no?
00:57:30
Speaker
If he come out with a book, he's going to sue him. He wouldn't have to. No, he would do it between closed doors. He would have his lawyers be like, hey, I want all the money. That would be crazy. Whatever he made from that, give it to me. That's the worst part because he would embarrass himself completely.
00:57:49
Speaker
And then after he was done with that, the little money that he got from it would go to Jordan. Yeah, Scotty. I'm not done yet. He's going to take that money that he made.
00:58:05
Speaker
Oh yeah, we gon' get that money. We gon' get that money. Scotty, you shouldn't have said that. If Scotty dies before Jordan, Jordan's gonna be at that funeral just looking like, yo, I tried to do the right thing with Scottie. I tried to help him. Y'all don't see how many times I try to call that man. Tell him to shut up.
00:58:23
Speaker
Keep your name out, mom. No, it's a weird thing where somebody's constantly bringing you up and it's like, I don't have nothing to do with your problems. Yeah. You're mad because I'm Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan, I gave you your props. What more do you want from me, bro? What more do you want? Advice? Like money.
00:58:47
Speaker
You gotta go get that. You're not getting the fame, but you have the fame of Scottie Pippen. So leverage that and do something that makes some sense. I think he wanted to be Batman instead of just being the Robin. Tough titty. Yeah, it just didn't happen. Hey, enjoy your six rings. Like, come on, bro. Facts.
00:59:09
Speaker
Facts hey Scotty man you gotta get to get your stuff together so we could all agree Scotty's the worst Now who's the second worst I say John I think his situation is salvageable
00:59:25
Speaker
coming back and still earning some money. But what if he does it again? If he does, if he's stupid enough to do it again. Everyone thought he wasn't gonna do it again. I told you he was gonna do it again. If he's stupid enough after getting smacked up. Now you gonna lie on my soul? If he's stupid enough to do it again, then he's done. Amen.
00:59:50
Speaker
Zion, to me, is the easiest. Hire PR, hire lawyers, hire FBI agents. It never happened. Never. He better hire something not with that BM. Because she's going to be getting this. You know he told her in her face, basically, in the video of the gender reveal, he was talking to the baby. It's like, oh, baby.
01:00:21
Speaker
I don't know what the future holds with him and the mom. But mommy and daddy will always love you. And the mom was like, what? She getting that paper. Yeah, now she's probably like, OK. She got the lawyer ready. Oh, man, she got something on retainer. She getting that money. She can do that. She can write a book. She can do seminars. She did that by playing how many games?
01:00:50
Speaker
Well, I think he played 23 games last year. Bro. In his whole career, he's played 82 games. He has to make sure he actually plays a season because his money might be going dry if she's smart.
01:01:03
Speaker
She probably should be like, hey, yo, you saw the situation? How can I finesse him? Because obviously he's that slow. Oh, easy. You go to the courts. You tell them that my kid just needs that safety like him. You already know, bro. And it's going to be like $20,000. She doesn't have a workout. You already know. You've seen the way he was dressed at some of them games. You already know. But you know what's smart? You know who also said this. And if Zion was smart, we should tag him in this.
Eddie Curry's Financial Advice
01:01:30
Speaker
Gilbert said this.
01:01:32
Speaker
No, not Gilbert, Eddie Curry said this because his first wife was a high school sweetheart and she got greedy after he got his first big contract with the Knicks. When you get hit with child support, let's just say it's gonna be a hundred, it's gonna be a million dollars. That's a million dollars the whole 18 years. You can write that check, send it to the state and they will just send it out each month. If Zion was smart,
01:01:58
Speaker
The court says you need to pay $20,000 a month. He bet $20,000 a month times the amount of months and had the all ready to go so that all his future earnings is just for him. That's the smartest thing he should do and be done. I think that's the best part. Because Eddie Curry said that because I think his one lawyer told him that. But with his whole situation, he just paid it.
01:02:27
Speaker
Yeah, because the thing about the ongoing is that you're going to have life happen. You're going to stop playing and then you're still going to be making payments. You know what I'm saying? You're still going to be doing that stuff and you still have them expenses, but you're not getting the checks like that no more. And the kid is still there. She's only like nine.
01:02:49
Speaker
Like, you could be underwater fast. That's why I'm like, I don't know about Zion. And he's definitely solidified himself as just a goofy with money. Those DMs were crazy, yo. How much would I have to pay you, though? Like, I really miss you. How much would I have to pay you? I'm probably finesse without even paying a dime. Yeah, because we some peas in here.
01:03:16
Speaker
That's a rap for this episode, man. It's friends versus friends. We out. Peace.