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2023 All Star Predictions & Trade Deadline Reviews
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Transcript
Birthday Quiz: Jim Brown & Michael Jordan
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you
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Speaker
It's me, your host JT at KB to my right. I got added AKA the stat man right here. I ain't gotta say it like that. I feel disrespected. And because of that, Quiz time, damn, you gonna do that? Quiz time. Who's birthday's today?
00:00:46
Speaker
What? James Earl Jones. That's Darth Vader? Is he? Yeah. Yeah. No, it's
MJ's 60th Birthday & Family Drama
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not. All right, so that's the right answer. Now, I feel disrespected. Who's birthday is it? Jim Brown. Michael Jordan's. Is it really? I didn't even know that. Jerk. It became personal with me. Thank you, LeBron. Yeah, he turned 60 today. Dang. MJ is 60. No wonder what he's doing.
00:01:12
Speaker
He's in the gym. Well, actually, you know what? Another breaking. Nah, some breaking. Nah, some real breaking news. Let's talk about that. I know I sent it to y'all today. Yo, big shout out to Marcus Jordan. Hey, bruh. Oh, wow. That's what MJ is doing. MJ simply is like, yes. Let it happen, yo. That's crazy, yo. Yo, bruh is literally smashing Scottie Pippen's ex-wife, like.
00:01:36
Speaker
Jordan's like really he has to do nothing physical. He's like, you know what? I let my son handle my light work I'm gonna let him smash your wife, bro. Yes way He's just letting that happen my bra so
NBA Trade Deadline Excitement
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We just have probably, I know that it's your favorite time of the year. It's Christmas. It's crazy. We're gonna jump right into it. So it's trade deadline. We're gonna jump right into it. We're gonna talk shit about it. And yeah, it's that. Take it away. Man, Merry Christmas to me. The trade deadline happened February 9th. It was a beautiful time of the year. Especially for the Knicks. For once we did something right. You didn't like it at first.
00:02:18
Speaker
You didn't like it? I didn't. I was tight because we need a small four. We need a forward. He's a small four. No, he's a guard. Josh Hart is a guard. Why are you stealing my thunder? Go, bro. Josh Hart is a guard. The Knicks were a part of a four-team trade where the Knicks received Josh Hart from Portland.
00:02:39
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In return to give up Cam Reddish. Ryan Artisink. Thank you. And then Swift.
00:02:51
Speaker
this guy named Swev. He was the 15th man off the bench. He sound like he should be good though. But he was a three point shooter. And we gave him a first round pick. But it's a protective first round pick, which means if it's between pick one to 14 in the lottery,
Josh Hart's Role in the Knicks
00:03:11
Speaker
we get to keep it. And if it's not, then it goes to the Blazers. In return, if it is a lottery pick, we give Portland four second rounders. Also in that whole part of the trade, they took Swift and a 2023 second round pick to Philly and a 2027 second round pick from Portland for
00:03:36
Speaker
the trade to go for Jalen Daniels in a 2024 second round pick to go to Sixers. Portland also received Mattis Thieboul in the deal. How do you feel about Josh Hart now?
00:03:52
Speaker
after a couple of games, he could be a nigga. Are you gonna put some respect on my man? You see, he ain't say nothing about it. I gotta look at you, dude. I don't think he has anything to say. Yeah, I'm under the weather today. So you on the injured list. Everybody see my cup today. All right, so we'll continue. I won't wait, but I will say this. Put some respect on my man. We still should have got a Ford. I'm sad as he can. Mr. Hardis. I'm sad as he can. Red is taking away whatever, and he's put a little bit numbers and everything. We'll see his career and how he's doing. We was wasting his life.
00:04:21
Speaker
Yeah, we were. You can blame tips for that. Yeah, we were. But Josh Hart has stepped up. And they've been arguing all week since he's been on the squad. He should come off the bench. He should not start. And he's been igniting the bench. And he's been getting minutes, though, at the end.
00:04:38
Speaker
Don't blame me. Blame tubes.
Major NBA Trades Analysis
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Speaker
You're right. You said the same thing. But at the end of the day, he should come off the bench and he's impacting our squad. So all we need to do is that is put Mello on there and then we straight. We can play off run real good player front. We'll tag Lala. We'll ask her to make that work. God, that's I don't even think that's happening. I never know what I was done with, bro. Love is love. All right. So Celtics, they they traded.
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for Mike Mascula from the Thunder in return for Justin Jackson and two future second round picks. The Pistons did a three team trade where the Pistons received James Wiseman. Portland received Gary Payton the third. I mean, Gary Payton the second and three conditional second round picks. Hawks received Sadique Bay. Portland received Kevin Knox and five second round picks.
00:05:36
Speaker
And yeah, the Hawks, they also made a trade where they received Bruno Fernando, Garrison Matthews from the Rockets for Justin Holliday, Frank Commissy, a 2024 second round pick, a 2025 second round pick from OKC. Oh, this is all East right now? This is all East. We're going to do that. The Raptors.
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Speaker
added Jacob Patel from the Spurs. In return, the Spurs received Keheem Burch, a 2024 first round pick, a 2023 second round pick, and a 2025 second round pick. Now, you all know I gotta save this one for the East last. Brooklyn did what they had to do. They traded KD.
00:06:28
Speaker
And TJ Warren. The whole squad. Four, four Mikkel Bridges, Cameron Johnson, Juan Pablo Volet, who's playing overseas, a 2023 first round pick from Phoenix, a 2025 first round pick from Phoenix, a 2027 first round pick from Phoenix, 2028 first round pick swap with Phoenix,
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2,028 second round pick from Milwaukee, 2,029 first round pick from Phoenix, 2,029 second round pick from Milwaukee.
Brooklyn Nets Roster Changes
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They also received Jay Crowder, but they shipped them out to Milwaukee. Milwaukee also traded Serge Ibaka, George Hill, Jordan Noir, and three second round picks, Milwaukee's, cash consideration from Brooklyn.
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Speaker
in this 14 trade. And Spence, did you say Spence? Spence who? Din Woody. Brooklyn. Spence and Din Woody. That was the Kyrie trade that happened a couple days ago. Oh yeah, I thought you were saying, I thought you were just adding everything that they got. No, no, no, no, no. I thought you were saying everything that Brooklyn kind of got from everything. No, no, no, no, no. Okay. That wasn't the deadline. Yeah. That was a couple days ago. This is my favorite time. This is Christmas. That was Christmas Eve. Yeah. This is Christmas Day. That was all from the East, but
00:07:50
Speaker
How did you feel about KD? When's the last time you've seen a team just be a completely different roster from one month to the next? What? The Knicks? The Nellotrade? No, that's that dumb shit. You can see anything with the Knicks. It's like reverse Disneyland.
00:08:11
Speaker
I would say this that trade like like how do you do you think like? 2k is now. It's great now Different with your whole squad kicking away, but I would say this that KD trade kind of got everybody off like it happened 100% correct in the days like it happened before the Super Bowl so everybody was just like good
00:08:36
Speaker
fuck like I'm in basketball hands you're just like oh the Super Bowl cool cool yeah KD was like yo I can't wait till after the Super Bowl to see KD player like everything how it formulates Brooklyn after that like it kind of that was the biggest trade in a while and doing some research about it
00:08:53
Speaker
I know you're going to the West that but I would just say like yo in game and how you were saying in game on in season trades There's only been three were squads In NBA history where there's an in season trade where that team actually went to a championship? I'm stat you're gonna know and correct me if I'm wrong. I believe she got traded in in season He went to the Pistons from Portland. Yeah, Portland, um
00:09:17
Speaker
And definitely me doing research that normally does research and I actually read it up on it. It was Mark McGuire, oh well, that was in season back in the day when he came to Detroit. From that day, you said Mark McGuire. Huh? Mark Agra. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, because I was like, you talking baseball? This ain't a baseball podcast, my man. Yeah, when he went to Detroit for the bad boys. Yes, yep, yep, yep. And then one more. It was Clyde Jackson.
00:09:46
Speaker
That was an end season trade. When he went from Portland to go Houston. Yes. Yup. Yup. Yup. So, um, and that's put a lot of high things up and I'm in my mind put on a KD, but yo, and that team, that team KD going anywhere is just like, yo, that team looks like they're going to the ship. And at this point, cause beforehand book.
00:10:08
Speaker
CP3 definitely hurt a We were all saying I know we said in a couple episodes a their time was up and I know in their mind They were like, yeah, we you know, things are gonna change but now it's just like a they could be that fourth team going to the championship and it's because a big-ass in season trade so to say to your point like how you know crazy is that like yo like that's
Western Conference Trade Focus
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probably gonna be the craziest thing in NBA history we're gonna hear especially if they actually get to the championship and if they win that shit it's gonna be dope. Yeah for the Suns but then for Brooklyn it's like they started over yeah some kid yeah some kid is gonna be like I'm choosing Brooklyn. You ain't know I updated that shit did you? I updated Ross there's my guy. All them jerseys is worthless. Or like when you first get the game you're like oh you trying to hold up let me settings let me update that you're like there you go here you go.
00:10:58
Speaker
You went from having 99 players to like 84, 72, 65. But Bridges is a dog. Spence is a dog. Um, you just named probably about like five first rounds or picks and that they got, they got, right? So it's like, that's a whole rebuild at the end of the day.
00:11:17
Speaker
That's a whole rebuild, bro. Like, that's crazy. And now the Knicks are the number one team in New York. Aye, aye. I'm happy about it. Let's go. All right. We're going to the West, the good old West. And I got to start with the most important thing. What's up? I hate Duke, but, you know, we're going to talk about a Duke player. Clippers receive Mason Plumlee.
00:11:44
Speaker
He had no intro. He be riding Duke so much, I'm gonna give it to him this time. But Mason Plummy now rocks back. He's about to say something sus though. He's about to say something sus. Nah. I'm not the one who be slurping. Oh man. I don't either. You slurp for Duke. I slurp for Duke. That sounds bad. You what? You slurp for Duke. Anyway, yo, you messing up my Christmas. What's going to happen when we don't drink? Next episode.
00:12:12
Speaker
Alright, so like I said, Mason Plumlee got traded to the Clippers and Reggie Jackson, a 2028 second round pick was for Charlotte. The Clippers also, and I feel bad for this guy, he should have got first. Clippers did a three team trade with the Clippers, the Rockets and the Grizzlies. Clippers traded for Eric Gordon and three future second round picks.
00:12:38
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The Rockets received John Wall, Danny Green in a protected swap for the Clippers first round pick. And then the Grizzlies received Luke Canar. They did my man John Wall. I know John Wall. I know he's hurting. Wait, Luke left? Luke is on the Rockets? No, Luke Canar plays for the Grizzlies.
00:13:01
Speaker
Oh, he got lucky. Luke went to the Grizzlies. Yeah. Dad, that was a good pickup for them. But guess what? John Wall and Danny Green just got cut anyway. Yeah. So it didn't make a difference. Dang. But John Wall, he got treated dirty. He was like, you know. He wasn't for it. His name being right next to Houston, I would have been like, yo, that's some fool. Like, they were still paying him when he was with the club. It was like. Yeah, because he did the buyout. So he's getting paid by two teams. Yo. Yeah, that's dirty. He should go back to D.C. Actually,
00:13:30
Speaker
We'll talk about somebody else, but yeah. Pelicans, they traded for the Spurs, Josh Richardson. So Josh Richardson came to the Pelicans. The Spurs received Devontae Graham, a 2024 second round pick, a 2026 second round pick, a 2028 second round pick, and a 2029 second round pick. We're gonna talk about the Nuggets and their four-team trade.
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The Knuckers received Thomas Bryant. The Lakers received Mo Bamba, Davion Reed, and a second round pick. The Clippers received Bones Hyland. And the Magics received
Playoff Potential & Team Depth
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Pat Bev, 2024 second round pick from Denver. Cash considerations from the Lakers. And then they cut Pat Bev. Yup. Ayo. Like, they probably called Pat. It was like, Ayo. Don't even come to Orlando. Don't even come to Orlando. It's OK. Stay blessed.
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Now, the last and final one, which is very funny, the Lakers finally gave up a first round pick, but they did that to trade away Mr. Westbrook. The Lakers traded and the Lakers received D'Angelo, I'ma snitch Russell, Malik, I'ma hit it too.
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and Jared Vanderbilt. The Timberwolves received Mike Connolly, Nikhil Alexander Walker, a 2024 second round pick swap with the Lakers, a 2025 second round pick via the Jazz, 2026 second round pick via the Jazz. The Jazz received Russell, I have to get out of here, LA Westbrook.
00:15:09
Speaker
They got Juan Teresco Anderson, they got Damon Jones, and they got the Lakers 2027 first round pick. That is my Christmas story.
00:15:21
Speaker
And what a Christmas for the Lakers. They got Mo Bamba. I think that was a wake up call for him because Orlando had four centers doing better than him. They got the Bad Wagon brother. They got Jonathan Isaac back. Paula can play a center if need be, but they have Michael Carter.
00:15:45
Speaker
No. No. Wendell Carter. Yeah, my bad. Wendell Carter as their center as well. So he was due to get traded. It helped out because... Have you seen his numbers? Hot garbage. I know, but they traded away Thomas Bryant because Thomas Bryant was mad that he wasn't getting playing time. But out of all those trades, what are your top three?
00:16:10
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I would say my favorite trade out of that, you know, KD, besides KD, because that's a dope trade, but the Bucks, they got Jay Crowder. They already had Bobby Portis on there. Bruh, that's- They got goons now. They got goons. They were missing a goon. Now they got two goons. Bruh, think about it. They got Portis. They got Crowder. Then they got Grayson Allen.
00:16:39
Speaker
They got goons. They got goons. I was about to get knocked out. Hey, they got the squat. I would say I'm picking as one of my favorite ones because it kind of like put some really up top and matching up really well with the Celtics because you gotta think about it.
00:16:57
Speaker
I know you're hating on my boy, but the shooter out there, they got Gracie Allen, and he's starting. Middleton's coming back. Middleton's hurt. I know, but Middleton, so it's getting like, you got that, they have depth now. They're heavy hitters now, dawg. They are heavy hitters now. Yeah, but you know, Giannis just got hurt with the rest. Like, let him... He'll be back. He'll be back. You got a hope. He's a warrior. You got a hope. Bruh.
00:17:18
Speaker
They got death. I think that was a good trade. I think it was part of a trade. I know Reggie got sent, but he actually got picked up by the Nuggets, didn't he? Yeah, he got he got cut and then he went to Denver. I think that was helping them out big time because they needed a back a point guard. I think Murray's out for something. I don't know. He's always hurt. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. They needed a point guard. So whenever Murray gets healthy, they'd be all right. But I thought that was kind of dope. I don't.
00:17:48
Speaker
I think those two kind of are eye-openers for me, really. What you got? Anything that you think that kind of stand out? That's why he wore his stuff today. Yeah, yeah. OK, OK. I mean, I know. You know, I'm still, I still don't think we've seen him. Something that actually worked. And you know, Jalen was hyped. They're surprised. Actually. Oh, yeah. He was, he was hyped. He was in the mall. I don't know. He was, he was, he was, he was getting inducted.
00:18:13
Speaker
Oh, yeah, I know, but oh, yeah, OK. He's celebrating with like a 40 point game like. And, yo, he's been killing lately not to go heavy on the squad like that, but because you didn't get selected for the All-Star. I know. But he's been killing. And this is the first time. Personally, it's the first. Yo, we're going like we're above 500 going into the All-Star. And then someone else just got added to something.
00:18:38
Speaker
Julia's rent, yo. No, we'll leave that for, we'll leave that. I will,
Russell Westbrook's Next Move
00:18:43
Speaker
we'll leave that. My bad, guys. You know, I'm just going, I'm just. Let's just talk about this important thing. W-W-W-L. Where will Westbrook land?
00:18:55
Speaker
Where do you think he gonna land? Who wants, I mean, wherever he goes. A lot of teams want him, though. No, I'm just saying, like, who benefits from his style of play. Bruh, I got a team right now. We spoke about that a long time ago. I got a team right now that should pick him up. Let's have it. But first, your bruh, play this clip for me. My good sir. Before I hear some more information about it, I'm gonna get you.
00:19:20
Speaker
look at Russell Westbrook's going to take his time at least I think through this week through the start of the all-star break I think to continue talking with the jazz about what it might look like there and getting a sense of what might be available to him in the buyout market if he does work out a deal with
00:19:40
Speaker
the jazz to move on. Listen, I think teams like the Bulls, even the Clippers, Miami, I think they're evaluating who's out there, what the roles might be. And I just think that's communicated. And I think for Russell Westbrook,
00:19:58
Speaker
I think it's important for him to wherever he plays this year. You know, that's a role where he can feel like he's able to maximize. I think what the jazz have told him is we welcome you in here, but we are prioritizing our young core. We're going to focus on playing our young players so we can't give you
00:20:18
Speaker
any sort of a guarantee on minutes or role and I know Russell Westbrook appreciated their candor about that and so he's got some time here to evaluate it and I think other teams are evaluating you know who
00:20:33
Speaker
Who potentially could still get in the buyout market? Remember, as long as you are bought out by your current team by March 1st, you are eligible for a postseason roster. And because we have the trade or the all-star break coming up here in just a few days, it's not as though teams are going to miss out on any of these players playing games. I think this break in time allows everyone to take this slow here.
00:21:04
Speaker
So what was the date? Is it March 4th? March 1st. You don't be paying attention. See? There we go. And he's sick. You don't be paying attention to nothing. I never remember the trades after he went over. See, I told you, it was my happy time. Too many of them joints. It was a lot, right? Here's a fun fact. January and February of this past month, there's been 71 second round picks traded.
00:21:32
Speaker
There's a lot of good second round picks, though. We'll see. In the future, I'm just saying, there were a lot of good second round players that are nice for second round picks. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you know, people, you look at second round picks as worthless, but you never know. Mitchell Robinson. Here's an interesting thing I read. There's a team that I might be stealing your thunder. There's a team that really wants them, and I question it. Why? Because it worked, but it didn't work that well. Washington.
00:22:02
Speaker
No, you're not still in my thunder, but Washington, I would just say maybe just to bring it back home. To OKC? He said Washington. He said to bring it home? He was, he used to go to, he played at Washington. Yeah, I thought you said he was going back home. That's another home, you know. He was a rental almost. So he'll be going over, if he goes over there, isn't,
00:22:24
Speaker
Donovan over there? What? Billy Donovan. No, where's he at? Billy's in Chicago. He's in Chicago. Oh, that's another team. And that's not who I was going to say. I know Billy Donovan wants to reunite with him in Chicago. But in D.C., I'm just saying maybe because it worked there. You got it. Got you the A.C. Yeah. I mean, it worked a little bit. So they know Bill wanted A.C. to get knocked out by the Bucks or
00:22:49
Speaker
Or Boston? What's his other choices? Believe it or not, I think the perfect spot for him is the Clippers. Yes, that's you stealing my thunder. Yeah, it would be the Clippers. No, that's cool. It's all good. It's all good. We agree, which is weird. But I said it first. The Clippers.
00:23:07
Speaker
All right. The Clippers would be a great squad. I think the Clippers will work out for him, bro. I think another good spot would be Miami because Kyle. No. Kyle, I eat too much Lowry. No. Gets hurt. Dang, what are you talking about, bro? Yeah, man. Bruh. Why y'all not going to chip you up, y'all? No, he's not. He a Philly boy like, what's up, what's up? He can very well be here very soon.
00:23:33
Speaker
when he gets slammed in the face. But anyway, for real, for real, I always say that because Jimmy's a dog. He likes dogs. Westbrook couldn't actually handle being with Jimmy.
00:23:47
Speaker
Yeah, but the reasons why that I'm not going with that is because the Clippers have enough shooting to where it fits for us. Everybody knows it didn't work in L.A. because it didn't work in L.A., whatever. But there's enough shooting for us as in like he doesn't have he can be
00:24:06
Speaker
The Russell rest will go to the cup, maybe shoot that ugly jumper he might have out there and maybe make it. But it's enough for him to actually dish it out. The PG, he's played with PG. PG's been saying some great things. He's been saying, yo, I think he should come here. Um, but to BAM said that BAM said for the heat. Yeah. Yeah.
00:24:24
Speaker
The platoon said, yay, I think you should come here. I feel like a lot of players and the Clippers are pushing that. Kawhi, you even said it. Kawhi was talking about, yo, we need a better point guard when he had Reggie Jackson. So maybe he should go there. The Clippers also have a billionaire owner who likes to spend a lot of money. So hey, make it work, make it happen. I think that will be his ideal place to go. I would actually like to see that.
00:24:50
Speaker
but wouldn't it be weird because it's Lakers clipper. So it's like, I wouldn't care. I mean, don't buy it with care, but it's like, Hey, like, all right, cool. It didn't work out here. I'm just going to go over here if it works out. And I think it will work out there. And it's like, remember how you see all those pictures of him smiling and stuff when they were losing and he.
00:25:11
Speaker
He kinda knew what was probably gonna happen. That's why I hope that I actually hope he goes to the Clippers and, you know, we've been getting on, you know, the whole world has been getting on Russ's ass for the last two years. But it's been some bullshit though. But it wasn't his fault. It wasn't his fault and I think it's like... That was bronze.
00:25:30
Speaker
Well, hold on, hold on. I will say this. Like you said, everybody's getting on his ass. He is saying not one thing back. I remember I was arguing. I was like, I think you said I thought I wanted him to start. Right. And you said, no, he's going to be six man. Russ, obviously not because of you, but everybody was saying.
00:25:56
Speaker
Everybody was judging this man's character and then after all this went down There was some other report you may know stat that they were saying. Oh, yeah, you know if we knew it wasn't gonna work He did this but there's been other news
00:26:10
Speaker
when they were talking about the bubble that Russ was the nicest person ever. He was giving money to the maids. He was encouraging the players to give money to them, like, hey, yo, let's do this. He wasn't giving money out to the people that were helping and everything, all the whole facilities in the bubble. He's a good player. But his character was being tarnished. His play was being taken away. And it's like, we're going to forget that this is the king of the triple doubles. This is the dude that's been like illened. But this the whole time, I just remember
00:26:39
Speaker
I'm not mad at Russ. He doesn't belong there. Yeah, that's why I said that was a broad fault. He just does not belong there. And I could not believe that anybody would push to see that team together because it makes no sense. And then it went down just like that. Yeah, it did. It went down just how it was supposed to be crazy. I like him. I actually want to see him in LA with the Clippers. I'd love to see him.
00:27:04
Speaker
Clippers or do you know, I don't want to know Chicago. I don't want them in Washington. It's either Miami or LA. Those are only
NBA All-Star Weekend Overview
00:27:11
Speaker
two players. I think Miami would be terrible Clippers. Why would it be terrible? They just think it would work. They got shooters and Jimmy. They got a shooter and Tyler. Jimmy. They got a big man in BAM.
00:27:24
Speaker
So you're keeping Lowry? Is Lowry still there? He's just chilling? Lowry's always in and out hurt. That's why I said, Lowry, like, you have your point guard there. Like, he will be doing that. I don't like that yet. It doesn't feel right to me. I don't see him in. No, I don't think he gonna win nothing. Out of the four teams? I don't think he gonna win nothing that way. Out of the four teams, number one is LA for me. The Clippers is no problem. Like I said, we all said that. But if the Clippers say they're going a different route, then I would say go to Miami before Chicago. Chicago, you're a losing team.
00:27:53
Speaker
Why go to Washington? That's a losing team. If you're trying to get to the playoffs, and there's four teams that are interested in you, and L.A. says, you know, we're changing your mind, then I'm going to Miami. Why go to Chicago? Yes, sir. That's what I'm saying, like that, like those are the only two teams I would be interested in. If he had to, everybody, from here and that, I really want to see him with the Clippers. Yeah, no, 100%. I think he deserves to be in a favorable spot for him.
00:28:20
Speaker
Bruh, if he goes there, like you said, it would be very exciting to see him kick ass and just destroy, take over. The Clippers would never be in LA City. Like, it would never be better than... By Brooklyn versus the Knicks. Yeah, it would be like that, but that would just bring it back. Remember Lob City? Yeah, I remember that. It would bring that back. Why PG Russ? Oh my.
00:28:48
Speaker
They got enough shooting I'll just just make it sure they got enough sure that see you didn't hear a TV choice They got bone they got bones too. They got shooters. Yeah, they got shooters. That's the idea spot. I hope he goes there and
00:29:03
Speaker
We'll see what happens. But you heard he's, he's listening to teams. He's listening to see, remember he's going to see what works best for him. We all at the consensus is all saying, yes, the Clippers, but what if he don't feel like the Clippers is the right fit for him? That would be a damn shame. I think we end up in Chicago or something. That would be stupid on him. Right? They're like, you know what? We see that you really didn't want to go to the Clippers. What's wrong? And then be like, the Heat be like,
00:29:28
Speaker
What's wrong? And then Chicago? Yeah, come. I'd be like, bruh. So Chicago will be Russ, Demar.
00:29:35
Speaker
Zach. Poochits is the center. And Pat Williams, if he's not hurt, he's their power forward. Yeah, that team is wack. I don't see that. And then, like I said, Washington, you got Prozingis. You got Beale. And then Beale. And that's it. And again, and then Beale, as you know, Beale gets hurt. And you know, Prozingis, you sneeze. He's like AD.
00:30:01
Speaker
He's the locked version of AP. He's the locked version of AP. He's the locked version of AP. He's the locked version of AP. He's the locked version of AP. He's the locked version of AP. He's the locked version of AP. He's the locked version of AP. He's the locked version of AP. He's the locked version of AP. He's the locked version of AP. He's the locked version of AP. He's the locked version of AP. He's the locked version of AP. He's the locked version of AP. He's the locked version of AP. He's the locked version of AP. He's the locked version of AP. He's the locked version of AP.
00:30:27
Speaker
but John Wall was out, right? Yeah, cause he was still there. Yeah, that was a minute ago. Something was wrong with him. He couldn't play. That was tight. Oh well. I know your height, your kids are height. I'm gonna let my kid watch. It's the all-star weekend. Yeah. Tonight is the celebrity. I ain't watching that. I'm watching that. You're corny. You know what I want to see? I'm full of sleep. Spice, my boy, Spice. He be, he's funny.
00:30:55
Speaker
You know what I'm talking about, right? Yeah. Which one is Adam? This is, uh, Biggums. That's it. Oh, he's Spice Adam. Yeah. Oh, he's stupid, bro. He's funny. Yeah. I'm gonna tag him. But now, like, it hasn't been interesting for me in a long time with the celebrities. Celebrities be just showing out just to show out, but it's not entertaining. What's the last time you think it was funny? The last time? I think the last time for me was when Kevin Hart was out there hoovering. And he was mad funny.
00:31:24
Speaker
I think that was the last time I was interested. That was the last time I was interested. But all of it now is like corny. I'm like, come on now. Like back in the day, they competed, but they talked smack. It was fun. But now it's just like, they're like standing, taking pictures. I'm like, I want to see y'all do something. But now tonight's the celebrity. Then tomorrow, three point contest.
00:31:51
Speaker
Skills challenge, dunk contest, but we're going to go with the skill challenge. There's three teams. You're going to just say their name. I ain't going to disrespect their name. What? The Greek Freaks family. Anteta Kumbu. The team is with Giannis, Tanathas, and Alex.
00:32:15
Speaker
Funny, all three of them play either in their G-League, which is Alex, or Giannis and Thanasis play for the Bucks. Then they got Team Jazz, which is Jordan Clarkson, Walker Kessler, Colin Sexton, and then they got the rookies. They got Paolo, they got Jayden Ivey, they got Jamari Smith Jr. Who do you think is going to win the skill challenge?
00:32:41
Speaker
What's that polos on the squad I like you know, I want one power squad to win everybody the squad where Jordan the Utah squad with jazz They're probably gonna get it
00:32:52
Speaker
I want Paulo and him to win. Whatever team Paulo and I want him to win. Why did they change up? Because... What's going on? They did it with all of them. The dunk contest, they changed up the rules. I'm going to talk to you about that last. They changed up the three-pointers. Remember, they get to pick the green balls where it's just the money balls in one spot. And then you have to shoot it from like almost half court, all that nonsense. No, I don't remember. I never watched. I never watched the All-Star Game.
00:33:20
Speaker
I told him, I stopped caring when they changed the rules for the All-Star game, where it's like, you gotta make the... For me, we, you know, we gonna have wings and everything that night, too. I don't think I've watched the All-Star game in Wello for a decade. The last time... No, for real, the last time I was actually... I have been done with that. The last game I got hyped for for the All-Star was when it was Kobe's last one.
00:33:42
Speaker
That was the last one I got hyped for. Yeah, that was a good one. I remember that. How long ago was that, though? Like eight years? Yeah. And that's all I watched, just some of it.
Three-Point & Dunk Contest Predictions
00:33:53
Speaker
It was Kobe. I didn't watch nothing else. That was the thing for me to see Kobe. Now we're going to talk about the three-point contest. Tyrese Halliburton from the Pacers. Tyler Harrah from Miami. Buddy Hill from the Pacers.
00:34:07
Speaker
Kevin Herder from Sacramento. Dame from Portland. Lori, uh... Mark Cannon. Mark Cannon from Utah. Anthony Simmons, we're supposed to, but then Julius, I get a temper. Randall will be participating. And then we got Jason. I swear I'm the leader of Boston, but really it's Jaylen Brown. Tatum.
00:34:29
Speaker
Uh, for Boston. It really is. He really, he got punched in the elbow and the eye by Jason Tatum. He's going to play and he going to shoot. No, I'm saying Jason Tatum is going to. Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. He did it on purpose. Right. But I don't know if Jay, no, I don't think Jaylen is going to be in the all-star game. Yeah. But who do you think is going to win the three point contest?
00:34:52
Speaker
First, I would say this, it is a bad sign that Julius Randall is in there for us. It's terrible, but you know why? He's gonna be jacking up these bullshit threes in this contest, and then when we come back in the season, he gonna be like, that's gonna be my excuse, I'm like, this nigga, he was in the three point contest, now he gonna shoot me. Watch him win, watch him win. Yo, Draft Kings had him at 700 to win. He not gonna win. Someone probably took that bet. Somebody put $10 on it. You get 70 bucks.
00:35:20
Speaker
What? Yeah. For him? It was plus 700. Yup. I got, you said Dame on there, right? Dame? Yeah. Dame. I'm going with Dame. Who you going with? Laurie Mark Cannon. He's a tall white guy.
00:35:46
Speaker
It's funny, but he's speaking facts though. He's not lying. He's not lying. I'm surprised Terry's Halliburton's on there with his funky shot. He has it as just as bad as what Lonzo's, his shot was bad. Halliburton's up Chris, Gil Chris.
00:36:07
Speaker
You remember his jibber? I don't even remember. I remember Sean Marion. But he wasn't supposed to be doing that though. He wasn't supposed to be shooting. It was weird. I actually... I was going to say Dane, but we're not going to copy. He was posting a video, so I'm going to say him. Kevin Herder.
00:36:37
Speaker
We're going to go upstate in New York. You might get that one. Upstate in New York. That's a good comp. If it's not those three at the end, I'd be very surprised because Hurricane's shooting, he's been shooting lights out. His stats in the season are crazy. He's better than what he was. Y'all sleep on Sacramento now. Sleeping on them, but yeah.
00:36:58
Speaker
Yeah bro, who you pick? Yeah, he's probably going to be. He's probably going to be my character. He's going to be nice, I die. He's careful. So yeah, he actually might go and be there. Dame is expected to be there. He should be. I'd be surprised if he's not, but I think the three that we picked, we could put a little money on it, a little wage on it if y'all want to, you know what I'm saying?
00:37:20
Speaker
Plus 700. All right, now we're gonna end this. Oh, that's the next day though, right? That's Saturday. Yeah, this is Saturday. Dump contest! Who cares? We have Kenyon Martin Jr. from Houston. We have Matt McClun. He was actually gonna be the first G-League player to be in there, but he just got picked up from Philly.
00:37:50
Speaker
And then we got Trey Murphy the third from the Pelicans and then we got Jericho I'm tall and I got hops Sims from the New York Knicks Mac Mac better witness John. I hope so. So you're going for another white boy
00:38:06
Speaker
Hey, Mac is nice. No, I know. He showed me him in high school. I remember. Yeah. He was a highlight. Yeah. And then he went to Georgetown and he just flamed out. But he went to Texas Tech. Yeah, he transferred. He's right there. Mac is nice. I'm just saying, because his dunks in games, his dunks and everything, like he has just highlights, not even in games. It's just, you know, he actually looks like he practiced dunks.
00:38:27
Speaker
A lot of people get good in-game dunkers and can't just be creative when they're dunking. He can do that. This is on and off the court. He is, to me, is the only person in that lineup that actually looks like he can really put up a show. He looks like he gonna change it and make us probably proud of the dunk contest, honestly. You know what? Maybe I'll actually watch that. It's gonna be good. It's gonna be good.
00:38:53
Speaker
Sims, he gonna have to do some Dominique stuff. Yeah, because he's that tall. It don't look right when people who are too tall do that. I didn't think Dike was right. But he can't jump out the gym. But he has to be creative when he's doing something. That's my only thing. Last person I saw who was real tall like that, who had dunks that was interesting was, um,
00:39:13
Speaker
Superman. Aaron Gordon. Aaron Gordon. Yeah, he is pretty tall. But then he got screwed. But he wasn't like one of those tall, tall dudes that you probably didn't know. But he lost. He should have been as into not once, but twice. That was one of my favorite dunk contests, though.
00:39:29
Speaker
That's when he quit. You know when they gave it to Levine, gave him a 50, and gave Aaron, what, 48 or 49? When Aaron's was more harder than Levine's, that's when he said, I'm done. He should've went. You know what? You got to give it to him, though, because stars don't really want to do it no more. And for him to have time multiple times to try, I give it up to him. I'm not even mad at the fact that he doesn't feel like doing it. You know who should have did it? And you're going to all clown me and say, it doesn't matter.
00:39:59
Speaker
Jordan did it, Kobe did it. I'm mad as hell LeBron never went because you know, he would have won the contest. He not the goat? He ain't got that on his feet. He didn't got that
Dunk Contest Evolution & Nostalgia
00:40:10
Speaker
on his feet. He did not do that. I was mad that he never did that. I'm pretty sure he did in the McDonald's All-Star. Of course. That's a given, but yeah. But honestly, it don't even matter if LeBron would have did it, he would have won it. He would have won it. Yeah. Jordan did it. Kobe did it. I was just like, yo, come on, Bron. You should have just did that. She just did it.
00:40:28
Speaker
But I'm gonna go with Kenyar Martin Jr. Only because Pops was a dunker. Pops might tell him. Pops might give him some advice. Yeah, yeah.
00:40:39
Speaker
Let me tell you about, you know, back in the day, you saw like, even though he don't count Wade, was it official? Rest in peace, Bill Russell was drawing on that though. Like he was terrible in there. He was giving 50s to stupid stuff. They had, um, Dominique Wilkins. They had a whole, they had a lot of, they had, I think Vince Carter did one. Dr. J? Dr. J was always doing it. But guess what?
00:41:04
Speaker
It's almost a new crew. We're doing it out there. Yeah. Yeah. Let me tell you who's in there. Jamal Crawford. Yeah. I respect him, but he, I don't know. Lisa Leslie. I respect that. She dunked it. I respect that. Car Malone.
00:41:23
Speaker
Why? Yeah, what is he doing here? Why is he allowed in the stadium? Oh, he's in Utah. Yeah, but still
00:41:37
Speaker
Four of them. Matt Harpering, they could have had him in there. I'm surprised they didn't do John Stockton. Greg Ostertag or something. Harold Miner, he was a two-time slam dunk champion. But no one ever hears or talks about him. And then they had Dominique Wilkins.
00:41:59
Speaker
I'm gonna be doing it for a long time. But I was just like, yo, this is how you know the dunk contest has gotten trash. Why in the world do you got these people? Everybody else had excuses. Like, yo, you know, I really would, but I just...
00:42:15
Speaker
I'm sick that day. Me and Collin was sick this time. They all got COVID. My thing is, as long as they don't give 50s or 40 or 45s and up for second attempts, I'm cool. You can't mess a dunk and then get like, oh yeah, I'm giving you a 50s. I'm like, no, you don't. That's not perfect. That's not it. If you make it on the first try, then it's nice. Yeah. But the second attempts, are you messing up all the time? No. You can't like, it goes down. Correct.
00:42:43
Speaker
You have to. Correct. And that's the shit we've been seeing lately. It's been pissing me off. Like, come on. Which is why I stopped really being interested. Like, too many attempts. Like, you're not practicing all week. And I tell you, I'm a rim grade. I'm just like this. Like, it's not. And I probably can't even do it too much anymore. I can catch an alley. I have actually seen you dunk before. Yeah. But it's just like. Two hands. It was impressive. Yeah. We're going to get you to go to a dunk contest next year. Maybe. I'll be a judge, at least. But I'll read the description if you want them to go.
00:43:14
Speaker
But it's just like, bruh, it's too many attempts. Remember this one out? Bruh. Flawless. Like, flawless. You know what I'm saying? And he's explained that, yo, I was nervous about this dunk, but when I actually was up there, like, the way he explained it, he's like, when I was above the rim, I was just like, oh, I'm going to dunk this. Like, it's like, yo, he actually practices shit. It doesn't look like nobody's practicing that. And T-Mack should have won that, but because of that last dunk,
00:43:43
Speaker
T-Mack was encouragement to show off though. The honey dip? Yeah. T-Mack was going to win that. Kids don't know about that, how shocking that was, because you didn't have YouTube to look up regular dudes doing that all the time. Never seen nobody do it before in my life. It's a shame. And then it's the... I'm not really watching it, but it's the...
00:44:10
Speaker
the young kids. You got team Deron, Deron Williams, team Joe Camnola, team Powell Gasol, team Jason. What's this? What's that? It's the young kids.
00:44:22
Speaker
Like, the freshmen and then like the- It's the rookies and sophomore game. Oh, okay. But now they included the D-leaguers. Why do they do this? Oh, that's what's up. Because they just want to do it. I hate it. You said D-leaguer. You mean G-leaguer? G-leaguer. You said D-leaguer. This is right here. This is when I'd go to the bathroom. This is when I would set up my door dash for the night.
00:44:47
Speaker
You ain't running. The only popular person out of the G-League right now is Scotty Henderson. That's the only thing that's popular. He gonna change the game for us too. We hope. He will. We hope.
00:45:02
Speaker
Oh, let me do a stat, fun fact. Did you know his sister is dirty to it, boy? Oh. What? You said he was dirty, yo. Yeah, I know. You know my tale. Yeah, that's why I was looking at you like, yo, that's not a fact that we want to know. And all you see is a scream like, like, duh. Like, this channel is cut off. You can't just cut off. We can't no longer. Scotty might sue you. Yeah, man.
00:45:32
Speaker
What? His views do not reflect the podcast. She's nice at basketball. I'm sorry. Like, I use other terms, but yeah. Do you have a game tonight or no? Send us home, Jabron. Nah, just send us home. Just send us home. What? Send us home. He did a 30.
00:45:56
Speaker
Why, you ain't got a game? I got an idea. No, I had a discussion. Wait, let's hear your small discussion. What is it? I mean, you got Therese Halliburton. He's an all-star. Yeah. We got Wally Zerbeak. We call these snubs and people with something to say, like Wally Zerbeak. Wally.
00:46:19
Speaker
Wally Whirl. You have a playoff between Wally Zerviak and Therese Halliburton. Who was the better all-star anyway?
00:46:28
Speaker
I think while he was ever an all-star, wasn't he? One time. One time? Yeah, he was. One time. He got away with it, but then he had something to say about it. He got away with it. Yeah, and now he has something to say about another dude who is up and coming. Yeah, right? Like, he had multiples, like... You know who hated him? KJ. He didn't like him. Well, good. I hope he really hates his ass now. Hating on somebody. I don't want him sitting next to me on a plane. Who his ass? But what's your question? What's your discussion?
00:46:57
Speaker
Well, I just did it. All right. Well, send us on. I'll send us home, you know. Ayo. That's the all star episode, man. Trade lines, you feel me? We'll be next back next week. Peace.