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Introduction to 'Friends versus Friends'
00:00:20
Speaker
Yo, what up? What up? What up? This is friends versus friends. It's your boy, JT. I got statman to the left of me and I got KB to the right. What's good? How y'all doing? I'm happy. You know me, I stay in homeostasis. I feel you, bro. I got to say one of the fancy words like UTI. I imagine you did it like that. He did the TI. Not TI. I've been listening to his stuff, too.
00:00:49
Speaker
I heard that one song. What was it? Top Back? Oh yeah, I remember that. I heard that this morning. I was going to work. T.A. had his stuff. Why were you talking about T.A. right now? Late back. Late back. I was DMacking. I was DMacking.
00:01:14
Speaker
Yo, that's wild. But no, we're going to jump into summer
Focus on Summer League and USA Basketball
00:01:20
Speaker
league. So this episode, we're going to talk heavy about summer league. We're going to go over what's been going on so far. But before we jump right into the summer league, we ain't talking about the USA roster. Yo, that's coming out.
00:01:33
Speaker
Man, that USA team is looking nice to me. I know a lot of people like, yo, bronze. What'd you see in the comments? They're just like, they're definitely not getting any medals. But first, let's just go over the roster. Stat, you got the roster set up? No, not at all. So I will tell you the people.
Finalized USA Basketball Roster Details
00:01:50
Speaker
So it's been finalized officially. So Jalen Brunson's definitely on there. Can't go wrong there. Nope.
00:02:00
Speaker
We got my boy Tyler. Tyler who? Yeah. Bobby Portis is on there. We got Cam Johnson is on there. We got Jaron Jackson Jr. Jaron Jackson Jr. powerhouse. He's on there.
00:02:19
Speaker
Dang, Josh Hart is on there. Paolo. Bridges is on there. I'm gonna give it to you, I'm gonna give it to you. You gonna go on there? We got Paolo, we got Michaelle Brunson, we got Jaylen Brunson, we have Anthony Edwards, we have Tyrese Halliburton, we have Josh Hart, we have BI.
00:02:35
Speaker
Brandon. Oh, it's dirty. We have Jaron Jackson Jr. We got Cam Johnson. We got Walker Kessler. The only white boy. Nah, I'm joking. No, OK. We got one more on there. Because he's the last person. Yeah, he got Bobby. I'm a thug. Portis. Yeah, he got Austin. I got paid. Read. Yeah. On the roster. Now that's a smooth lineup. I don't know why everybody's putting so much hate out there talking about bronze. It's not. It's not the elite. No, it's not. It's not. It's a young group. And that's great. Who's the vets?
00:03:04
Speaker
None of them. I'm trying but that's my point, but that's perfect and they're all young I think the oldest person is probably Bobby if Bobby Yeah, but the thing is this that's great though. I mean definitely from our team because you got Jalen in there You got Josh in there. Who's the leader on that team? You don't have to play. Oh, you know Yeah, I think it's great
What If: Iverson, Kobe, and Olympic Dreams
00:03:29
Speaker
experience. It's great play. You know I'm saying you get all that who leader Jalen
00:03:33
Speaker
I was about to say, it looks like that's the wise. I say is Jalen. I say, you know, they got that. I think he's never Mikel. Who? Mikel. I was going to say bridges, bridges, most likely in baby Ingram. If he steps up a body, poor is obviously he's the like, he's the dog of that team. Like he's going to be like the only dog on that team. He's the biggest player on that team. Right. Tesla. No, that's a big dude. That's a big dude. Yeah.
00:03:59
Speaker
But now I like how it's a young squad. You got to think about it. Like they don't have anybody to really be like, oh, we're like anchoring off you or anything. Like everybody's going to be their own. We're talking about leadership. But I think everybody together are going to be like gel together. You know what I'm saying? You don't have to like follow up on somebody. I think it's going to be a good. You don't got to worry about alpha dogs or eagles. Yeah. Other alpha dogs. This is like you said, it's a young thing. I'm actually surprised Paolo because he was debating between going to Italy, Italy. I was like, you better.
00:04:29
Speaker
If you want a chance, if you want a medal, you better go. That dog, he gonna be lit, bro. He gonna be lit. One thing I would say that this not has nothing to do with USA, just something I just saw recently and just crossed my mind with Apollo. ESPN just put something up. They had all his highlights and the caption was like, this is the only rookie that has not got the highlights. And I was like,
00:04:49
Speaker
And agreeing with the comments on there, they were just like, yo, this is your fault. You didn't put any of his highlights up there. The only time they put his name up there is when he had his first game, which is Dunk. His poster. First game had a poster as a rookie. Dirty. But it's just like, yo, that's your fault, bro. But Apollo's going to be dirty out there. Why were they suppressing Apollo? I don't know. I'll tell you. Orlando, probably. Yeah, but Atlanta sucks. Yeah, the market. But still, he had a great season. But you got to think about it.
00:05:19
Speaker
Remember their season, at the end of the season, even though they say the beginning of middle of the previous season, they have the schedule all lined up. They have all their national televised.
00:05:31
Speaker
games that they want. You already know New York as much as we suck. New York was gonna be on there, cause that's a big market team and everyone that plays against the Knicks has a party on us. You know everyone wants to watch the Lakers because it's LA and it's Brian. As much as we don't care about Brooklyn and the Clippers that much, that's another big market team. Orlando isn't a big, in the US it is a big market, but it's not a big NBA market. You think of Florida, you think of Miami.
00:06:00
Speaker
You don't think of Orlando. So again, Paolo, yes, he was the first pick overall. Yes, he was rookie of the year. But how'd you be rookie of the year with no highlights? Yeah, I mean, he has highlights, but they didn't like, you know, it wasn't that important. Yeah.
00:06:15
Speaker
It's crazy, but even with all your explanation, it sounds dumb. By the way, Disney, supposedly, I know we get off topic, Disney is supposed to be selling ABC and a few other channels, but they didn't want to sell ESPN. They're selling a whole group of things, but I'm going to give you something that you made me really think about. What's up?
00:06:40
Speaker
And I get mad at the old heads in the NBA. Think about the Olympics. I was listening to Iverson. Iverson only had one time ever that he played with Kobe. And you know when that was? When he was playing for Denver and he was in the All-Star. That was the only time they ever played together. Yeah. Dude, that sucked. They never played in the Olympics together.
00:07:04
Speaker
Nah. He played on that weird team. Yeah, and what kills me is think about that. Kobe and Iverson never played together in the Olympics. Kobe and Jordan didn't because of just the time frame. A lot of greats didn't really play with each other in the Olympics that should have played together. Iverson should have played with Kobe in the Olympics. Now remember that one year where it would have been everybody, it would have been
00:07:32
Speaker
It would have been TMAC. It would have been Iverson. It would have been everybody, but they kept blowing the stadium up. Yeah, they backed out. Somebody was doing terrorist attacks to the stadium, and they was like, yeah. But we lost out on seeing greatness with a lot of greats that never got to play with each other. Yeah.
00:07:53
Speaker
that we should've seen in the Olympics. And our coming up era, definitely. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I feel you on that. But yeah, I just had to bring that up. No, that's just, yeah. Man, that's crazy. I didn't even think about that. Like you said, this was like, Dad, we didn't get to see that. Basically one of them, my NBA street roster. And he cried about that. He said, yo, that was the only time I actually played with him was the All-Star. We always went against each other. And that is the biggest regret that I never got to really play with him that much. Yeah. And as we know, rest in peace. Well, why didn't he play in the Olympics?
00:08:22
Speaker
Remember, because Kobe played in the Olympics. He did, but then there was times Iverson didn't get asked to play in the Olympics. But it was just like, yo, so many, so many greats. At what point was he not one of the guys you want to bring to the Olympics? Who? Iverson. Remember, Michael Redd played. That's what I'm saying. But again, I think he won a gold. Yeah, he did.
00:08:46
Speaker
Jimmy Butler did too. He was there with that last Kobe run. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Michael Redd was there. And Jimmy too. But again, AI was dead when that happened. Yeah, but still, would you take a dead AI over Michael Redd? Now, Michael Redd was a good three-point shooter. He was a shooter. Now, that's why he was there. That's why he was there. They said AI was chucking up shots and that's what
00:09:15
Speaker
A lot of people do blame that bronze medal Oh Cuz of AI cuz they were like yo that a team like he was just chucking up shots II and pass the ball He was supposed to be leader, but he wasn't facilitating nothing bad coach, but that's eight. Who was that coach? Oh
00:09:31
Speaker
Pop. No, it was not Pop. I can't blame him. No, you can't. Definitely wasn't Coach K. Don't lie, don't. Nah, it definitely wasn't Coach K. It wasn't Coach K yet. Nah, I feel like it, Larry, I almost wanna say Larry Brown was on that. Oh, Larry, Larry, Larry. Larry was on that. And then he stepped down, then Pop took it over. I think you're right. I think you're right. Yeah, yeah, it's private, Larry. And it was just like, damn, like, cause you know Pop don't play that. Pop would bet, he would bench anybody.
00:09:59
Speaker
He don't care. He don't care if you're dunking or anybody. He likes benching people. He played my game. And if you hear, he's like, yo, he was just fucking with me for some reason. Why? That's why Murray was so happy to leave. That's why Murray was so happy to leave. Oh, really? Yeah. He was like, yo, they from that. And I told you the one time when they when they did a back on track on him, they checked the janitor. They were like, yo, so how is Murray and the janitor had to answer questions?
00:10:29
Speaker
about Murray as a person. What the hell is that? That's the Spurs way. We need to know. Did he ever recycle? But yeah, I'm like pretty sure. I've been messing up on that. He doesn't. He doesn't. They're going to find you. Why you do that? That's good. That's good. Who going to find me? The municipal. Maybe. I'm going to get banned from this episode. That's OK. But nah. All right.
00:10:53
Speaker
Let's jump into the Summer League.
Summer League Highlights: Victor Wembanyama
00:10:55
Speaker
So as we know, the Summer League has started. We had some good runs, actually a lot of star highlights, highlights and everything. We can see some players rising, but we're going to start with the number one pick, Vic. Tor. Say his last name. Wenben. I call it Wenby. Oh Lord. His name is, just say Wenby. We got a spelling bee chant that wants to correct us, which is fine. You know, I don't care. But when he says his name, I bet you the captions on the bottom doesn't spell it right. But still, it's fine.
00:11:23
Speaker
um he played two games yeah those two games now the first game very timid very timid me and this guy saw the first game together um i was laughing and i was just like dad this is an eyesore how'd you feel kb like i said i mean
00:11:42
Speaker
He just looked like a fish out of water. I said game speed. I said he needs to get caught up to the physicality, definitely. I said he needs to probably need to gain some weight, grow into that frame. And- Gain weight or be stronger? Remember, they're scared about him gaining weight. Grow into frame, I'll say that. Get a grown man body, because then one of the things I remember is that he's 18.
00:12:09
Speaker
You're going to change a little bit from 18 to 22. Yeah. You think he's going to get taller? They say they hope he doesn't get taller. He's 7'4".
00:12:25
Speaker
Well, let's say he grows max almost 7-5 or climb 7-5. The height is not the problem. The first game, he just looked really off. You could tell that his rhythm was jacked up. And I mean, the second game, he looked way better. I think he was scared Brittany was going to sue him.
00:12:49
Speaker
This is Britney Spears. I came home and I was like, yo, the first pick in the NBA draft was in the airport and security beat somebody up. That's who it was. Did you see the smack? It was hilarious. I didn't see it. She got shook. She got shook. Like she stopped. She was like smack by security. You see bruz hand go back like yo, yo, yo. Boom.
00:13:14
Speaker
Apology, but I was like guess guess who guess who got beat up by this dude security. I was like, it's Britney Spears Britney Spears got beat up in the airport five. Oh, yeah, I'm just saying so somebody did smack her Oh, yeah, who slapped her security
00:13:34
Speaker
The like, cause she was, it's like, he was walking ahead and all you see is her coming behind. So it's like, and her security's like, you know, side by side. What was she doing? Trying to get his attention. She wanted to tell him congratulations and welcome to the NBA. And then brother turned back and say, like, yeah.
00:13:50
Speaker
Security yeah security and just kept it moving to you saw her whole hair blonde hair shaking everything like it got like she got hit The video I saw zoomed in with TMZ how this out to TMZ TMZ had it and zoomed in and you can see it was in slow-mo all you see is like
00:14:13
Speaker
Like, it was crazy. But luckily, no charges. Nope. No charges. She wants an apology. Like, Vic is trying to like, yeah, somebody came behind me and my security handled it. Like, he don't, you know, he didn't, you know what I'm saying? Like, he doesn't care. Like... But she should know better, even though she said, yo, if a fan wanted to say hi to me, I'd do that. But don't come behind me.
00:14:35
Speaker
They came behind, bruh. And like, that's why the security did their job. That's why they get paid. Yeah, like, yo, who's that? Back up. Backhand ya. I think she's more embarrassed that it happened to her than some random person. Well, I mean, mind you, that's not Britney Spears' most embarrassing moment.
00:14:54
Speaker
That dance she was doing? Shorty, chill. She randomly just like post new pictures on Instagram. Recently? This past year, yeah. Nobody lifts those up. Is that when she had a shaved head or no? No. It was like recently, like she just like randomly just feel like posing this. Doesn't matter, bro. Now the young boy aged me, I'm like, damn, Britney Spears. Now I'm like, oh, this is probably like crazy looking. She's enjoying this.
00:15:31
Speaker
He gets a raise. Cause that means that you doing your job at all times, bro. Shout out to the security guard. He didn't get Craig and Dade. I was getting beat crazy. All right. So who, um,
00:15:45
Speaker
But the new pictures?
00:15:56
Speaker
Who was the second round? Second pick, I'm sorry, I said second round. Second pick. Brandon Miller. So his first game, was it his first game or second game he's ever got? But he had a game that was a flop. They were like, yo, what the heck? What was he doing? His issue was turnovers. But he's been picking back up. He's been doing good. He's a chucker though. For him to be effective, he got to shoot a lot. And what I'm saying, he's not shooting good shots.
00:16:23
Speaker
He's just getting the ball and just shooting whatever. I'm in summer league. What do you mean? Yeah, but guess what? There's players who are very good, and they want to do well. So you need to get off, man. Look. A person that I was impressed with, but we're going to talk about after Brandon, was scoop, but scoop got hurt.
Scoot Henderson: Energy and Leadership
00:16:45
Speaker
Yeah. Shoulder. I would say this though. Even though that we didn't see a lot,
00:16:53
Speaker
He had an interview while he was on the bench and he's just like his energy like it's just crazy. It's just like, yo, let's go, let's go. Like mid interview, he was like, oh yeah, get that, get that. Oh yeah, that's my point. Like, you know what I'm saying? I was like, yo, that's team, that's team. And as we're not gonna go heavy in this topic, cause we already talked about it in a later episode, is like Damon's leaving obviously. I'm like, yo, you can already tell like, he's that guy. He's gonna be that guy. He's gonna be that guy. And his game backs it up. If you haven't been in the NBA world, you don't know how this guy plays. He's a hooper. Like, come on now, he's a real hooper.
00:17:23
Speaker
But I just like the energy that he was coming off. He knew people, you know, like, you know, even though it's your team, you know, like, oh, you should be making that. That's my boy. Like, like, I love that mid interview. He's like in the game. He's taller. He's six to when I think it's 60. I'm thinking you as a point guard.
00:17:39
Speaker
He's a scorer, but he's really an undersized shooting guard. That's the only issue. His game as an explosive as a scorer? Yeah, I feel what you're saying. But, hey man, maybe... You know what someone compared him to be? And I was like, don't do that to him. Westbrook.
00:17:57
Speaker
Well, he's worked out a bad player, but I don't understand what you're saying. But he's not a bad player. Shoot. He don't have a jump shot. But they say the explosiveness of getting down the court. Oh, yeah. He driving like that. He's like a rust like that. Yeah. But he brought it as strong as hell. I just want to know, will he be able to be effective with Dane if Dane doesn't get traded? Because he's ball dominant and Dane's ball dominant and you're not going to take the ball from Dane.
00:18:27
Speaker
You can do a rap song about it. I'm surprised he hasn't done one about this whole situation yet. Well, he's going to call it Trailblazers. No, you know what they need to do? He didn't let Shaq do one. I actually got a couple songs from Shaq's. He did another damn song, but it was like he used that one sample that I like from
00:18:55
Speaker
Somebody gonna get mad at me. It's not SOS Ben. I don't even know what song it is. But he took Meek Mill's song. And what was the second song? I just forgot it. I don't know if that's what I'm talking about. No, you're talking about when he DJ'd. Meek Mill was in Uzi and mixed it. And it was like the illest mix everybody was talking about it. He was rapping again. Oh, no, no, no, no. I know what you're talking about. I sent it to you. Now, is it main ingredient?
00:19:23
Speaker
No, I sent that one to you like a couple months ago. I feel like it's Megan Stallion's beat. No, bro. What? No. I'm talking about the sample. He's talking about the song that was sampled. The old school song or the beat. Okay. Somebody old is going to be pissed in the car. You can't stop the rain.
00:19:46
Speaker
Whoever sings that, and does Midas Touch, same band, group. Somebody in the comments is going to answer for this guy. Somebody, oh, now I'm playing. Somebody. That's your age, right there, player. That's your age. Somebody is going to basically say, no, that's just my knowledge because I know music. You always got that corn ball in our comments, but it's funny. We always have someone like that, which is hilarious. It's going to be Rick.
00:20:18
Speaker
Midnight Star. Oh man, I'm so mad I didn't get that. I feel bad about that. I enjoy their music, I do. You know who did something and he was slow and he was rusty because he was hurt? Chet had a 40 point game. Why do I not care about Chet? Because he's gonna get hurt again.
00:20:42
Speaker
I'm not gonna say that about somebody in their career. He don't even care. No, Chet, I said it before. Chet's just... Yeah, that's why he got hurt, because you said it.
00:20:52
Speaker
I say it about certain players. He's suing us. What? He's suing us. Yo, Chet's Prozingis. Chet's Sean Bradley. He's going to be good when he's on the court. I don't think he's quite Sean Bradley right now. Not yet. He got to get dunked on. Don't act like twice. Victor just got dunked on. Yeah, that was funny. You act like that ain't going to be Chet. I bet we were like, oh, that was a...
00:21:15
Speaker
Very nasty. That was in his face, like, outside his head. Yeah, he was like... That was the first thing ESPN talked about on SportsCenter. Oh, yeah, they had to. They got a dump on the hype, man. Yeah, they had to do that. Which, by the way, I'm sad that a lot of people on SportsCenter got let go. Yeah, there's a whole roster of big people. Van Gundy.
00:21:37
Speaker
They're not re-upping Vince Carter's contract. Nope. But you know what it's got to be. You see what moves in the streets now. You got to get these real basketball minds, these real football minds, and you got to get them basically on social media. Yeah, you got to listen to podcasts like ours. And look, what they do is they blend it up with different genres, even. I've just seen something. There's a popular comedian. His name is Burt Kreischer.
00:22:06
Speaker
I don't know if you know who he is. If you see his face, you probably know who he is. He's like a dude who hangs out with Joe Rogan or something. He was just, he ran into Mike Allstock. Really? Yeah, on the streets somewhere and was doing kind of like an interview, but I'm just saying, that's cool. And then I'd rather talk to Mike Allstock than watch. Malika Andrews. Oh, hell yeah. I'm mad how she disrespects her, Brandon Miller.
00:22:35
Speaker
She just expected mad people. I know that, but I'm saying her most recent mess up was messing up Brandon Miller. I just think she should be ignored into obscurity for being just... Nah, she gonna stay there though. Of course she's gonna stay there, but I don't know what's up with ESPN. It's like they don't know what's good for them.
00:22:56
Speaker
The more they do like that, the less people care. I mean, that's why you had to let go all these popular assets. So, you know, just like, just like Shump. I love listening to Shump talk about basketball. They ain't never hiring him. Yeah, but he has his own thing. They ain't never. No, you know what? I wouldn't even want to see that now.
00:23:21
Speaker
When he's on a podcast, that's superior. Just sitting there listening to Molly interrupt everybody and say something that doesn't matter about what you're talking about. I'm just happy she don't mess up the summer league. She not available to do that.
00:23:35
Speaker
I'm just saying, the podcast be better. They can kind of click up a little bit and do little shows here and there, have their own podcast. Steven A's is even better. Yeah. Steven A's is actually pretty good. He maybe want to smoke a cigar or something. Yeah. His is just like, it fits him. It's kind of actually, it's like,
00:23:57
Speaker
He's more real. Like, you know what I'm saying? He's more realistic. He's not doing the first thing you notice. Yeah, I'm like, oh, he's not acting like he acts on TV. This is cool. Like he's acting like himself. It's kind of funny. He won't say the n-word. No, you want to. Oh, yeah, that was funny. You want to. I'm about to say, um.
00:24:19
Speaker
That was surprisingly out there was cooking. What's my, what's the, my young boy, Rook Mimi, he was arguing like probably a couple of months ago. My young boy, the rookie that was out there from the Kings. He was out there just drop. I was like, why do they have?
00:24:35
Speaker
bruh out there. I'm not mad that he was out there. I was like, yo, he was in the playoffs. Like, of course he's going to kill. Sometimes management wants you even though they know they expect you to, because if you're not killing them, there's a problem. You're being laid back, even though you did what you did. He cooks, he cooks. He had 39 points the one time.
00:24:55
Speaker
I was like, hey, yo, you, you proved it. They better not play with your name no more. Cause like, he, brother plays for Portland. There was one pick away from actually Sacramento was one pick away from actually having an opportunity to go draft the brother. And they really wanted to, too. They went in both of them to play together.
00:25:19
Speaker
An interesting player for me. He was trash the first game and he was horrible. It was Jett Howard. And then all of a sudden, of course against the Knicks, he hooped it up. The adjustment. Yeah. The only issue with him is like,
00:25:37
Speaker
He can be cold, and if he's cold, he's gone. But when he's hot, it's on. Yeah, it's flame on. J.R. Yo, that's who he really is. He's a J.R. Six-eight, yeah. Jersey. J.R. almost didn't even have a real career. But remember, he hopped around. He played for the Pelicans, didn't do that much. He almost got traded to Chicago, but the trade fell through. And then he got good, and he matured under the tool of the edge.
00:26:07
Speaker
Carmelo Anthony when he got to Denver and that's when he finally started putting it together Yeah, and then when he got traded to the Knicks we got to see the elite version Yeah, but but Anthony black Orlando's also the other rookie now he he's six seven He could play point guard. He could play shooting guard He really might be their starting point guard for Orlando because full
00:26:35
Speaker
Really? Yeah, that's why they drafted him. They actually wanted a, what Orlando's trying to do is actually trying to have a big lineup. Yeah, they're trying to have like all tall dudes out there. And I'm mad they cut Bull Bull. I know, why did they do that? He was dirty for them. Bull Bull was actually Wembley before Wembley came to the AVA. Exactly, talking about we've never seen nothing like that. Bull Bull was doing that last season. He was doing that, like for real, for real. But they want to have a tall point guard.
00:27:05
Speaker
He's a brother six nine black black six seven six seven. He's six seven. That's not tall enough They got six sevens tall enough. No, I'm sorry Beautiful they got friends Wagner as they're shooting guards more forward. Yep. They got Paulo at this at the power for yeah, they got window Carter
00:27:29
Speaker
as their center. But then there's also rumors saying that Jaylen Suggs isn't really a true point guard. They look at him more as a shooting guard. I've already done that. That's what his position was going to be. Nah, it was point guard. Especially when they had all them point guards. I thought his position was going to be. They got four point guards now. They got Cole still. But now they look at Cole as coming off the bench. Like a plug-in. Yeah. He started a lot of games.
00:27:55
Speaker
coach was trying to find that point. Like the coach, what he was doing, if he was starting Cole, you would see him not really playing that much at the end. And if you saw Jalen starting or full starting, you were seeing Cole playing at the end of the games. He was either or for them, but they really viewed him now as like a six man player, but they got four point guards. Someone got to go. Yeah, someone got to go.
00:28:20
Speaker
It's crazy, I didn't really pay attention to that point. I was always watching Paulo, but anytime I watched him play, Cole was out there. I don't think I remember seeing Suggs too, because he got hurt, didn't he? Ankle. Yeah, he got hurt. He's always an ankle boy. That's why, that's why, that's why. But he's somewhat like, now they got black and that's like their point guard that they want because he, one thing about him, he likes to get rebounds. He's a point guard that's actually getting rebounds. Okay, that's big. So he's a rebound assist guy and he can score. Okay.
00:28:49
Speaker
So they got a tall, and like we said, and also in the league, they're trying to get big point guards. That's what I said about school. I said, that's the only negative I look at. I'm like, damn, you're 6'2". You're not a point guard. You're a shooting guard. You're going to have to bring something else to the table. Scoring is cool, but he's not a good defender. Oh, really? He's not a good defender. That was one of his knocks.
00:29:19
Speaker
The scoring is not a problem. It's the defending that they knock on him. If he's going to be that high, you got to play D or be able to shoot at that point. It's like, and everyone's- Even Curry, Curry's only 6-3, right? They be knocking Curry sometimes, but Curry's defense, they used to hate him on defense, but his defense has stepped up and obviously he's shooting like crazy. He's moving so much, you know what I'm saying? So, something has to change in this game. He's going to stay 6-2.
00:29:49
Speaker
He'll get traded one day. He'll get tired of losing in Portland. Hopefully he'll be smart. This year. And you know what? I actually hope Dame feels bad after that. Why? I'm lying. I was never running from the grind. I just wanted to go to Miami. I'm definitely lying. We got to talk about our next. What?
00:30:15
Speaker
There's something really. Jump on it. I was going to jump on my player from the lake. Oh, no, your turn. But what's the brother's name? I forgot brother's name from the Lakers that was going on. Nice, Kristy. Kristy. He's not related to Doug Kristy, right? Correct. Brub and hoop and dog. They saying like they found the one. Second round pick. They saying like, yo, what would they pick up? What school did he go to? Don't know. Michigan State. Dayton.
00:30:42
Speaker
close but no they saying they picked up there's like yo the Lakers squad but they have now everything all his all the trades and pickups they had with that that was dirty they picked them up he caught some bodies his highlights are nice he can score I like him I think he's a great pickup I think it's gonna be good would be good to see but
00:31:08
Speaker
Damn, forget my, I gotta see them play more often. There's somebody on the Warriors that they're like, yo, they just replaced Jordan Poole. I was like, yo. I saw that too. Yeah, you saw that too? I was like, wait. I did. I was bro's name. The white boy that they just drafted? No, no, no, no, no, no. He likes skin.
00:31:27
Speaker
He likes skin. They were like, yo, he plays just like pool. He had the arm band and everything, all the wristband and everything. I was like. Oh, the Brazilian boy? Maybe he must have been. Cause they drafted him last year and they were talking about him. I don't know. He's Brazilian. In the summer league, he's been doing dirty and his moves, he's smooth. Like how, um,
00:31:46
Speaker
pool comes in with that in and out and then he stops and then he comes across back over and then he lays it up like he comes into um he he rolls into the paint i was like yo that was crazy i was like it was they show back-to-back moves i was like it looks just like i think that's bruh i think that's brazil i was like dad they did just break they just found a pool like they just replaced them there they go i was like with no mercy don't say 25
00:32:10
Speaker
You don't got it up there. No, but um But yeah, so 15 15. Okay, if that's bro, you may have the wrong stats that supposed to be knowing everything What I just told you they drafted him last year But is it true? We'll see. We'll see. We'll see if they actually tell him to play this year. Do you have nix highlights or not? Yeah, okay McCall kills gotta go
00:32:35
Speaker
He ain't do nothing. I didn't think he was going to do anything in the first place. So why we drafted him? I don't know. I'm not the GM. You're the Duke advocate. You're the Duke ambassador. I am, but I didn't know why they drafted him. I don't know. I am. Clown. Clown. Clown. Clown. The one person that, and there's history with this person, Jaylen Martin, he was in the G League.
00:33:04
Speaker
a G-League team. He didn't, he left his high school to play there for this past year. He didn't get drafted. His basketball coach was not a Nick great, but a Nick very good point guard, Charlie Ward. And when he didn't get drafted, Charlie was telling him like, yo, you need to pick him up. He's a 6'6 shooting guard.
00:33:25
Speaker
The clips I was watching him, he can get to the hole. His jump shot needs to be refined, but you can see that he's working on it. Do I think he's gonna get any burn this year? We have him on a two-way contract. I don't think he's really gonna get no burn with the parent Knicks. I think when he goes to the Westchester, he'll develop and grow, but that was the only person. Daquan Jeffries, he actually played the first game and then he got hurt.
00:33:54
Speaker
with the hip injury and we have a two-way contract with him. But the whole thing with kills is he was on a two-way contract. He's a restricted free agent and people were saying like he didn't impress the Knicks at all during the summer league. There's nothing that will make the Knicks really think that he's gonna be a player. Yeah. Hey man. I don't know what we were thinking but hey, you know how it flows bro.
00:34:24
Speaker
Go talk to Duke. Man. Go. We just produced greatness. He's not great enough. On and off. On and off.
Duke Players: NBA Prospects and Challenges
00:34:33
Speaker
They've been messing up. Him. How? Zion. Whitehead. Derik. We don't know. Derik.
00:34:40
Speaker
You gotta hope and pray his foot. That's the second time getting surgery on the same foot. Hey man, you gotta get things fixed and then you gotta get proper treatment. Proper treatment. So what was Duke doing? Hey. What was Duke doing? He was playing on it. Is that smart? That's his fault. No, that's the coach's fault. Maybe he said he wasn't hurt. Nah. He said he wasn't hurt. I just... They mismanaged the recruit on purpose. Now it's temporary.
00:35:10
Speaker
Now is Tampere. I really hope he does well for Brooklyn. They said that was the pick that everyone said. The biggest sleeper pick in the draft was him sliding that far to Brooklyn. Who him? I'm gonna tell you who I think the biggest sleeper is when you're done. I already know who you're getting ready to say. I can say it. Yeah, go ahead. Imani. Yeah.
00:35:34
Speaker
Biggest sleeper. And he's been showcasing it in the Summer League. I heard it's a bucket. But he did that in Michigan, Western, whatever, was it Western or Central Michigan? Eastern Michigan. Eastern Michigan. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But he's a person, when he couldn't do it in Memphis, yo, he's another erratic student. He has some issues going on there, man. Come on, I can't blame him for that one. What? He had a point guard with him. He had an NBA, he had NBA people helping him.
00:36:04
Speaker
He had Larry Brown. He messed up things all the time. He had Rashid Wallace. It was things going on there. That happened after he transferred. He complained saying it's back and then that's why he couldn't play that much. Then when he went back up there and that was that gun charge. Thank God. Yo, thank God that that didn't mess him up.
00:36:22
Speaker
Yeah, thank God, but where he's at now, he's scoring, he's hooping, he's the next one. He was a steal. He could if he knows how to shoot better. I don't think Donovan's gonna stay. No, and guess what? Everyone keeps saying he coming home. Free agency. It can still happen. I don't want that. T6-2, Jalen 6-2. We're gonna have a small back lineup. Both ball dominant. This is 6-2?
00:36:51
Speaker
Yeah, 60, 60. He's a he's a he's a short guy. Oh, I'll pull that up. He's definitely six to just call him short. He's like six inches taller than me. Well, for the for the average person. Donovan Mitchell. But now you. Yeah. Baze has been killing bro. I think he was a six. Oh, he probably just to a sneak. So, yeah, again, Jalen and Donovan.
00:37:21
Speaker
I'd rather take a short heart at 6'4 and a small back court. Yeah, dad. That's crazy. John's heart. Yeah. Just keep it how it is. We don't need nobody else. Nah, we don't. We already have. Let him go to Brooklyn.
00:37:36
Speaker
He might. He actually might. That's actually. Because that USA team is going to be, you know, they're going to try. I think honestly, this is something we forgot to say on that point, but not to jump back, but they're going to be recruiting internally. That's how it happens. Honestly, you're going to be playing together. You're going to see how it works. You're going to be talking.
00:37:55
Speaker
That's fine. Yep. But still. But am I? Okay. That's all we all gotta watch. Even sleep. We're gonna watch those two. We gotta see if he get burned now. I don't like the Cavs. Not saying they're not deep, but he has to actually, he has to come up in the ranks, obviously. He has to do his thing. Practice offseason, the rest of the offseason, everything like that. Summer league, he's doing it. Don't get in trouble.
00:38:16
Speaker
injury, don't get in trouble, don't get hurt, continues to get hurt. So, if he can- Yeah, no porn stars. Definitely not the one that's been tagging the pelicans or- Not with the terrible riz either, paying for it, that amount of money. I wanna know if now, do these players know not to ever talk to a porn star, or are they still stupid like Zion? Still stupid, but, I mean, who knows, I ain't gonna say that about everybody, but bro,
00:38:46
Speaker
I don't know. I mean, Shorty just said she had more NBA players hit her up. I'm like, I know damn sure you're not getting hit up. Stop. She just said stop with the cap, bro. Captain, his chef that he had that he let go hit her up after that.
00:39:03
Speaker
to talk, to talk. Yeah. About Chef? Like being a chef? He had a chef. Yeah, he's chefing already. I got to be the chef? Yeah, he's chef about it. So he did have a chef after that. Yeah. I mean, when he just said that, it sounded like he wants to stitch on some more stuff that she can file, you know? Oh. So he did actually have a chef. He had a chef. And he let the chef go so that he could keep eating Popeyes all the time.
00:39:28
Speaker
And now she says she's pregnant with his kid. I can't wait to see if that's even true. I think she got a fake, crazy test and was like, yo, I'm pregnant. I'm alive. I don't even care. Me neither. I'm just saying. But now do you got any more news for the summer league, my gang?
00:39:49
Speaker
It's almost over. You get to see those champions. You know those championship, the team who gets champions, they get rings. They get like real nice rings. I don't think it's got trophies and stuff. No, they all get like NBA championship rings for some reason. It's kinda lit though. I'm not mad about that. Nah, they legit. No, they're legit. They dope.
00:40:07
Speaker
Cause last year it was dope, it was like carrots, they had carrots. That's lit, I like that. You know most of these players are not gonna even make the team, so they got something. Yeah, you got something? Take it back home, sell that joint. I wouldn't sell that joint. Nah, I wouldn't either, but I'm just saying. You ain't never gonna get that again. Nah, you're not, you're not.
00:40:26
Speaker
But now it's towards the end. It's this is the summer league is basically where you find that extra player that's been sleeping. The under the radar or a lot of these players go overseas playing the G League. Yeah. It's a lot of just who can you find the diamond in the rough.
00:40:46
Speaker
And this season, this summer league has been interesting because a lot of people have gotten hurt where like you expected to see scoop play. You expected to see- Or get some dick. Yeah. See, I have a problem with that because now a lot of teams don't want their star players, star draft picks playing all five games or six games to and out. So do you think they should actually make their players play the whole summer league or just do what they've been doing? I think they need the practice.
00:41:16
Speaker
Cause this is nothing compared to, and there was players that actually said the summer league was nothing compared to training camp. It's a whole different ball game when you get to training camp. So do you think that they should actually still run or do you think they should actually continue to do what they're doing?
00:41:31
Speaker
I think they should continue to do the couple games in the summer league and honestly do the same thing what they did with, um, I keep forgetting bro's name from the Kings. Like, yo, like no matter what, if you pop off, you know what I'm saying? In a regular season, you could, you know, you go to the playoffs, whatever, like he did and his team, you should still come back that same season, the next season in the summer league, get a couple of games. Cause that's the time you're going to get off. Cause I think about it, he was there. He was like, yo, like you're going to, you're a star player. Imagine if,
00:41:58
Speaker
Everybody left from the Kings or everybody is down for so many any reason you're gonna you're that guy We need to know that you can control everybody you need to feel like you the alpha. You know I'm saying so
00:42:09
Speaker
continue to do that for a couple of games. Like I'm not mad they let Wimpy leave. I think he should because obviously I think he, he going to be, you know, you don't want him to be injured early. So. He said he's staying in San Antonio. They say he's looking for a home, looking for all the amenities. No, he's straight. He good. He had the best situation ever, honestly. Like, but yeah, I think they should continue to keep doing a couple of games. If they can play five, maybe, but like, you know what I'm saying? If it's your high traffic and you're banking on them,
00:42:35
Speaker
play a couple games, fill them out, and be like, all right, cool, we know what we need to work on now, so you can step up and actually fulfill this role in the regular season, and let's get to work. We gotta see what you could do freestyling out there. But at game speed, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, that's how I feel. I just feel like two games isn't a lot. No, two games is not a lot, but they're banking on him, so they got to be cautious, so they got to.
00:42:59
Speaker
That's their bread. That's their bread and butter at this point. That's why Pop signed that five-year deal. Yeah, dude, he gonna be old. He already is old, but he's gonna be super OG. That's cool. He still loves the game. Yeah. Hopefully he travels and I'm gonna do a fill. Because fill is at everything wrong. He could even travel. Remember, he got his hip surgery done. I know. They said he couldn't really get up. No.
00:43:26
Speaker
He was like having, um, you know, the extra pad and everything. Who is this? Phil. Remember when he was out and he came out for the Knicks? He couldn't, he was like, I can't travel. What you mean? I can't be there for practice all week. In reality, it was, he was really supposed to be the coach. He wasn't supposed to be a GM.
00:43:46
Speaker
Dolan wanted him to coach, and he was like, I can't literally coach. He was like, yo, I'll coach all the home games, and then I'll give you my assistant to do that. And then Jim was like, no, I need you all or nothing. All of that just to get what we got. Yeah. And with that, send us home. Hey, yo, this is Friends versus Friends. We are going to see you next episode. Peace.