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What's Next For Ja Morant after altercation accusations?
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Transcript
Introduction and Banter
00:00:25
Speaker
Get your boy JT on the mic, got KB, then we got the stat man to my left. What's good? What's good? How y'all feeling? So glad I gotta go to work tomorrow. That hurts. That's kinda painful. What's good with you, stat?
Ja Morant Controversy Discussion
00:00:45
Speaker
We got news about fighting. I don't like fights. Wait, what? We'll talk about that in the rumors. In the rumors? I mean, you know what? The rumor mill. Let's jump into that real quick. What rumors you talking about? Who's fighting?
00:00:59
Speaker
the face of the NBA, now I'm joking. But nah, John Marrette, what's up with him? We gotta put guns up in the air. He didn't beat in the 21 pickup or knockout game from a 16 or a 17 year old. 17 year old kid. He just pulled a glock out on him like, dang. Nah, I heard he was fighting with him first and then he ran the house and came back out with a gun.
00:01:23
Speaker
Wait, Jah ran in the house and came back at him? Yeah, he ran. Now, the sad thing about it, they said the kid, like, Jah threw on the ball to chuck up kind of hard, and the kid threw a bat. And Jah, it slipped through Jah's hand and hit his chin. So Jah, as we can tell, Jah is a little emotional. Which begs the question,
00:01:40
Speaker
Why is he playing pickup with little kids? At your house. Was he getting his ass beat? We'll never know. Was he getting worked on? Well, you know, you could see those clips with CP3 at his camp getting cooked by, like, a random kid or something. Like, you could see that. But he just didn't beat him up. Yeah, no, he couldn't. Just too many people involved right there. And then last week or this week, Homie was about to fight a security guard at the mall. He might have lost that one.
00:02:07
Speaker
Nah, no, but they said, nah, they said the security guard got scared. He called the cops. But that's not the rumor we heard about him and his posse, his squad was putting it like, you know, like aiming a gun at somebody for the paces or something like that, right? Oh, yeah. We talked about that last week. Yeah, I know. But that's all included. And that's what I'm told. It was like, you not hard, not from the streets.
00:02:31
Speaker
And we talked about that. You just messed up. Trying to put us on. He's trying to make it out the NBA. That's what it is. Yeah, that's what everybody's saying. You got $200 million. You're the only player that's trying to make it out the NBA. Hard to do. Never been done before. Just got his shoe deal. That's going to be at Walmart soon. Whack. And then, you know, Nike's looking at that and be like, yo, Kyrie, we sorry. For real. For real. No, it's real. Like, that's crazy. Kyrie is a stand-up citizen.
00:02:58
Speaker
He might be saying crazy things, but he don't be getting himself in the media for some gun violence. No, not for that. Nah, it's just his own personal beliefs. I mean, he might believe, though, you know, the earth is flat and all that extra stuff, but it's like, he ain't... At one, he ain't gonna get cooked one-on-one, so that ain't gonna happen to him. Knockout 21 or not, that's not gonna happen, so we know he ain't gonna fly that way. Ja is the poor man version of A.I.
00:03:22
Speaker
Yeah, we kind of did a little comparison of the AI. Yeah, but being a dickhead. Yeah, he messin' it up. Oh, no, I feel like that's disrespectful.
00:03:31
Speaker
A poor version of him? Yeah, like a poor, like a geek who wishes he was A.R. Yeah, he's messing up. He had a lot going. I mean, we'll see how it all pans out, but like, and his squad is getting nice. Everything, yo, the funny thing is all this after having he said, yo, I'm good in the West. Everything started, Trey, everybody started coming to the West. Wow, wow, wow. Then this, it's, it ain't looking good for Buddy.
00:03:56
Speaker
But then we got some major injuries though. I know you touch on those. What?
NBA High Scorers Highlight
00:04:00
Speaker
A.D.'s hurt. What else is new? LeBron! LeBron. Father- Father time is not- My fantasy league is hurting right now. Yeah, my one. Someone- Father time finally knocked on LeBron's body and said,
00:04:12
Speaker
He's been playing with that injury for a while. Yeah, and guess what? Ownership and management did not know that, but Darwin Hand knew that, and they were just like, yo, if you knew that, why would you do that? Why would you play in 40 plus minutes? Why would you play in 40 plus minutes? But why do that?
00:04:34
Speaker
Nah, but we gotta talk about some good things that happened. February 26th, a 131 to 114 game. Mr. Dame, 71 points. Yeah, he put those numbers up. 41 in the first half. What did Mitch have? Mitch had what this season? 71. I'm about to give you some facts on that. All right. Yo, there is eight players that have scored at least 70 plus points or more. Who are those
The Championship Pressure Debate
00:05:00
Speaker
eight?
00:05:01
Speaker
This not this season general 70 plus so definitely Kobe Kobe then we got will cuz he didn't more there he did spider Yeah, Dame. Yeah play. No. No, he was he had all the threes. Oh, he wasn't up there more than 71 70 and plus 70 plus 70 plus not Shaq. He was no one
00:05:26
Speaker
And not even Mello, because Mello, I think, is 64. He has the carbon record. Yeah, I was going to say Mello is my next. Nope. When y'all don't know, I'm going to give you all of them. T-Mack. No, don't. He should have. Actually, he could have. All right. Our rest of our players, are they in, like, the 2000 era on Up? Or are they, like... Hall of Famers, some of them are dead. Oh. Oh, what? You name them. What's this? Are the rest of them dead? No. The rest of them dead. One's dead, and two are living.
00:05:55
Speaker
And one's current. Larry didn't do that. No. We're missing someone that's current? Yeah. Who doesn't? I'm going to give it to you all now. Wait, wait. Who we say so far? We said Will. Will. Kobe. Kobe. Mitchell. Mitch. Obviously, Dame. Dame. East or West? That's too much. Nah, give us not.
00:06:20
Speaker
West. West? What, Kareem? No, not even him. No, I don't know Kareem today. And not even Bill Russell. Not Dr. J? No. Carl? No. It ain't like Charles Barkley. No. No. All right, cool, cool. All right. First person to ever do it was Elgin Baylor. He was the first person to get 70, so he actually got 71. Against who?
00:06:52
Speaker
In 1960 61 season Chamberlain was the odds Chamberlain he had 78 but then also And who did he do that against the Knicks correct?
00:07:07
Speaker
That's embarrassing for us. I'm not saying it. So like I said, so first was Elgin Chamberlain, David Thompson, when he was for the Nuggets was 73. David Robinson in 1994 against the Clippers, Kobe.
00:07:24
Speaker
Devin Booker in 2018. That's why I couldn't give it to y'all. I thought there was room. He did that like three years ago, didn't he? In 2018. He was a young boy when he did that. 2018, he was 20. He's the youngest ever. David Thompson was the youngest at the time. Actually, he was the youngest at the time, but Booker then did it in 2018. Spyder, January 2nd of this year, and then Dame.
00:07:50
Speaker
But for David Robinson to do it...
00:07:55
Speaker
Nah, they said, I remember when they, someone, it was like they were doing it and they were like taking players off. They were like, yo, not on the opposite team. They're like, yo, sit down so he can do this. Really? Yeah. He was just running. He was just running too. Like running, rebound, like he was going court to court, getting the rebound and just going. The Admiral. I remember he could run like that too. Yeah. I remember him being down fast. That Navy got him in shape, but yeah, not. He was crazy. But yeah, he's the A person.
00:08:23
Speaker
He dames the age. That's crazy. That's that fun fact of the night. Okay, okay. Yeah, we were always happy for him, but at the same time, I was just like, dude, this talent, like, do you really want to stay here? He talked about it. He was like, yo. I know. He doesn't care. He really don't care. I mean, I understand. That's that Kobe mentality. Yeah, it is. I give him respect on that. Too bad bills like that, but bills just can't stay healthy. And for that, and not even like, I just think, just because he's that, ownership has to be agreed over there. Like the, the,
00:08:53
Speaker
The team has to be great. Portland, the owner died last year. The owner used to be the owner of who? In the NFL. You should know this.
00:09:04
Speaker
But, Seahawks? There you go. Wow. I ain't know that. You just answered it. I just, I guess. Yeah. Oh, really? Is that Portland? Oh, yeah. It makes sense. Yeah, it makes sense. But still, for him to stay here, he must be feeling great. Like, you know what? Like, I just love hooping. Everything's good. Nobody's done, you know, you always hear bad about organizations or like, yo, man, nah, you don't want to go there. Or people like, you don't even want to start your career there. He's been there. He's like, yo, like, nobody's done me dirty here. I'm fine. I'm doing good. Everybody's eating.
00:09:33
Speaker
Remember, he got drafted. No one really knew who he was until closer to the draft. He went to a small school, Weber State. So Portland took the chance and he's showing his loyalty.
00:09:47
Speaker
I think somebody's going to come his way. I really do think out of all the players, we can go, we're going to dive into that too. Um, out of all the players, there was a whole list of players that, uh, Steven A, we were just talking about our users that need a championship. He's one of the, like, I don't know if he was on there, but it was like, he's going to get it.
00:10:03
Speaker
I think he's gonna get it. What? I think a player, I think it's just gonna happen. For some reason, I just think that's gonna happen. A championship. A championship. I just think a player's gonna be like, you know what? I don't know. Who's coming to Portland? I don't know, but I just feel like, yo, like, yeah, I'll go there with Dane. Nah, he, Stevie A had, this was his five. Chris Paul, which he needs that, this is his last shot. James Harden, Jason Tatum.
00:10:29
Speaker
I don't agree with that either. Tatum, he sucked. He sucked in the finals. Yeah, but still, they're saying they need it. Like, yo, you need this for him. No, he's gonna get it. What I think he meant by that is like, yo, you sucked in the finals. You need to redeem yourself and do that ASAP.
00:10:47
Speaker
Plus that team that team is there like I mean, maybe he's saying urgency wise. Yeah, that's what he's gonna look like that again No, cuz their their windows are gonna soonly change cuz watch Jalen's gonna want to lead Joker was four and then Kawhi was five
00:11:02
Speaker
Why already has him? What? He did it one time by himself and now it's just like, okay, well. To me, that says it all. You did it by yourself. But then you forced yourself to go get another star player in Paul George and you haven't lived up to the hype that, remember, when they got Paul George and him, they thought they were going to the finals. Yeah, they did right away.
00:11:24
Speaker
But again, they haven't done it. The Joker, I feel like he should be number one because you're a two-time, about to be a three-time, which I don't agree with, MVP.
Kevin Durant's Trade Reflections
00:11:42
Speaker
You've gotten everything except a championship now. You need that.
00:11:48
Speaker
Something interesting to talk about. Did y'all hear what KD had to say? Not about Shaq and Barkley, but you heard about, I think it was either before or after that first game about how he feels about being traded.
00:12:04
Speaker
No, no, he was happy. He was like, I know he had to be hyped. No, he couldn't stand the confusion that the. Oh, that. Yeah. OK, OK. I didn't hear that. Not. Yo, he was like, yo, I had a problem with the way the organization was. He was like, yo, when I got signed, it was cool. He thought next was Kyrie. But when the organization was playing games, he was like, yo, this is a dysfunctional organization. That's when he wanted to check out. He was like, yo,
00:12:28
Speaker
you giving me the belief that we're gonna go run this right, but you're not picking up my mans. So he was like, yo, this is dysfunctional organization. Plus Kyrie's been happy even though Mark Cuban is pissed off in Dallas.
00:12:46
Speaker
Yeah. And they just got it. They just got their W since he's been there. And they put up crazy numbers. 40 at peace. 40 and 42. Dog. Yeah. They had to meme up. It was, um, it was, um, bruh from, um,
00:13:01
Speaker
white man can't jump. Yeah, it was them two. Yeah, that was funny. I was like, wow. OK, but they did that game was crazy. That was a good game. I don't know if you all catch that one called that one. That was the game. It was back to back like literally was Kyrie and Luca for like the first.
00:13:18
Speaker
three quarters honestly when halftime came it was like obviously it was them two going at it was like 2020 and then no points for the rest of Dallas Mavericks like that Reggie Bullock was getting off because you know he's their shooter really yeah and then soon as a third quarter started Kyrie just went on a crazy tear like he played all third quarter and he sat out mostly like probably when it was at down at the five and then
00:13:41
Speaker
Philly got their lead back and then Luca and them just went back at it. They could set the record for the most threes for that franchise. You saw my screenshot with my people from Philly, they were mad as all hell. Oh yeah, they talking about that. Yeah, we were talking about that earlier. Nah, yeah. What, just cause the people said so? The city of Philadelphia wants his head. You know, I was up there, I was up there Tuesday. I always go past the, um, the mirror of, um, Matisse Thiebel.
00:14:07
Speaker
Yeah, I always go past it. It's still up there, but they'll be shaving that off. Yeah, they did like his back or something. Damn. That is respectful. Dad. I got an extra fun fact for y'all. What's up? March 2nd, 1962. What happened? Why the hell would we know that? Yo, this is the shit I've been talking about, yo. But it's him coming up with stuff. No worries. You go ahead.
00:14:34
Speaker
Yesterday was the anniversary of the 100 point scoring of Mr. Wilt Chamberlain. 100 points and 100 bodies. 100? He said it was like thousands. My man bodied a lot. Probably. That's what they say. The dude who touched him is Magic Johnson. Damn.
00:14:57
Speaker
Hey, it's so funny when you say that. I just randomly saw the clip. I was just scrolling. It was talking about when he had that one on one about it was like right after he was talking about when he came up with the HIV joint. He was talking about how he was like with different women. He's like, yeah, you know, girls just want it. And I just did it. Like he did it in the office, too. Yeah. He was like, she wanted it in the office. So I just did it. He was like, are you sure? She was like, yeah. He was like, all right. He said they just want their fantasies. And I was here for it. I'm the magic man.
00:15:26
Speaker
I was like, yo, I wonder if he smashed a genie.
00:15:30
Speaker
Might as well have. I feel did it. He respected. So they're like married. Yeah, that was so now. He respected Dr. Busmore. I don't think he did. But Dr. Bus was also. Dr. Bus probably. Dr. Bus threw him the alley you multiple times. They were hanging. They were hanging out. They said, you know, like him and Dr. Bus. That's what I was. Yeah. He's like, oh, he threw a much too many alley my way. But he also taught him the game outside of.
00:15:57
Speaker
He passed the ball, the business, because he told magic. In LA? Yeah, he told him, I want you to get yourself to own a team one day. And he owns, he owns partially of the LA Dodgers. He's part of that group that bought the Dodgers a couple of years ago. He upped him a lot with his business mind, definitely for sure. So he was proud of him. He gave back, he gave back.
00:16:16
Speaker
He doesn't own the clippers. Nah. I don't think no liquor will ever buy the clippers. Nah. No, they shouldn't. I remember what their owner said about him being in the building. That's gonna get edited out. We didn't say it. He said it. Yeah, right. That's a damn shame. But now we gotta go talk about some... Nah, did you all hear about what Crowder had to say? Jay.
00:16:43
Speaker
Jay Crowder, it was very important for him to get out. Oh, he was mad with Monty, right? Monty. So Monty is a problem. It's not just A, you know who had a problem. Crowder had a problem with Monty. So it's the big men are having a problem with Monty. They say it's just a hostile environment, really for real for us. Like, yo, it's not really like, he makes it like uncomfortable, makes it a problem.
00:17:07
Speaker
So if K.D. decides to stay there, he can force that push out the way. Or if he actually does like Monty, then you could say that Aiten and Crowder are really punks. You could say that, and he can keep his job. We'll see. If they win it all, he probably won't stay, for sure. Yeah. Now, now we got to talk about the screw ups. What's up? First topic, what's up, what's up? We started off with Job being a screw up.
00:17:33
Speaker
Memphis has been screwing up. Like, they think they won the championship and they still ain't get out the second round. Yeah, I like the hype-ness, but their immature-ness is showing so much sometimes. Yeah, they don't have a feeling the hurts to rein it in. They did! They did, and whatchamacallit, but his ACO was touring when... Oh, what's his name? Green. But then they traded him away.
00:17:58
Speaker
They kind of, yeah, they kind of had that. I would see that. They kind of had that like that. That was going to be like, hey, yo, yo, chill. And they shut them off. Because it's Danny Green. You think they listen to Danny Green? But Danny Green, they say behind the scenes, he was really helping them out, though. While he was hurt. Yeah, he was really talking. He was helping them out. Now, since OG was gone, they wiling, wiling. Now, they're like, yeah, get that whole out of here. Like, get out.
00:18:26
Speaker
Yeah. I couldn't believe that, yo. The same day. The vet would have been like, yo, chill. You know what you got going on? Chill out. Everybody sits on the bench like, chill, chill, chill. I don't know, bro. Tired of kids. And you know who else is tired of kids? Kendrick Perkins. Jabron, can you send that clip from us in concert?
00:18:48
Speaker
I'm not mad at Kirk Perkins right now. We can't talk about the dark side, though, and not welcome in the president, Kendrick Perkins, because yesterday, Janae, we heard Big Perk say the player with the most at stake down the stretch of the season is Ja Morant.
Memphis Grizzlies' Criticism by Kendrick Perkins
00:19:00
Speaker
So what did you learn watching Ja last night, Perk?
00:19:05
Speaker
Well, one is that their IQ is below zero, and it's really dark outside, dark in that arena when you talk about the dark side. Because listen, here's one thing to have talent, but it's one thing to be selfish and have a low IQ. And that's what the Memphis Grizzlies have. And unless they figure out a way to get a veteran in that locker room, to police that locker room, to hold guys accountable about playing basketball the right way, they will be a first round exit.
00:19:35
Speaker
I'm saying it right now. They will be a first round exit. It is disturbing to watch some of the shots that Jaron Jackson Jr. shoot. It is beyond disturbing to watch Dylan Brooke shoot some of the shots he take. When you're trying to win a championship, you need guys to be stars in their role. You need to have an identity. Who are you going to run your offense to? I would say this, Jaron Jackson, not
00:20:03
Speaker
Monitor her shots, but he's the Batman. I mean, he's the Robert the Jock. So he may be able to get that off a little bit. But Brooks, yeah, he need to show. He's supposed to be they tough man. Coming in look like Stone Cold Steve Horne. He was tripping. I was like. I was like, hey, my man.
00:20:19
Speaker
I remember Dane did that one year. That was for Halloween though. Yeah, yeah, Halloween. It's the luck of the Irish right now. It's March. What are we doing here? Oh, facts. Yeah. I had to turn one of their games off. I got bored because they started to look like an AAU team.
00:20:37
Speaker
the next without no point hard dumb stuff yeah but but the thing is they get the job done but it's just like when it comes like perk was saying it's probably not the first time we're gonna agree with him but it's just like lately we have but it's like yo when they get to that first round if they're playing experience team they're gonna get they say the kings can knock them off i believe it
00:20:58
Speaker
I believe the Kings could handle that. I don't know how it would happen. It would be them dumb shots and they come off the rim and all that running that sack can do and they go right down the court and they'd be getting like high percentage shots, the easy shots. Fox, the bonus. They're trying to tell them out. Sleeping on them.
00:21:17
Speaker
I'm happy. A lot of people are though. They can run and they can shoot. They have a defensive coach who actually knows how to do defense on that. And they already have a high power offense with Fox point guard. Monk coming off the bench. Yo. You got to leave.
00:21:33
Speaker
You and Malik knew to leave the Lakers, but that's a different topic. Talking about that young man. Yeah, you were on it. Yeah, Sloane, he put that double dot team. So they know what to do. The issue was Memphis, their window was slowly closing.
00:21:51
Speaker
unless they want to go trade some of their youth. Bane's been in and out being hurt, but again, Bane- They need Bane. They need him. They need him. Jack Brooks is- Where's Adams? Adams is hurt too, isn't he? Yeah, he's hurt. He's on my fantasy team. That's another problem. They need Adams. They need Bane, because that's their real shooter. That's their real shooter for them.
00:22:13
Speaker
And I would say that window wouldn't close if I think I'm, I don't know. I think we see everything what John Moran can do. It's really up to Jaron Jackson. Look at the standard things. Not even just the standard. Jaron Jackson's like gets what? If his, you know what I'm saying? If he gets way better, you know what I'm saying? His sliders go up by 20 somehow and somewhere and anywhere. They're going to be so much better. We honestly played that game. You're telling me you're telling me they're going to be better than Phoenix?
00:22:44
Speaker
No, I'm talking about their window. Like you're saying their windows will be closing for like the next potential years. I said, I'm saying if Jaron Jackson gets way better, it's not going to close all the way. It's going to stay open at least. Cause I think we've seen everything what Joc can do. Like unless Joc, I don't think Joc is going to get a jumper like that, like consistently. We've seen him shoot, but it's like if he stays healthy, that's great. That's, that's what they need. But if Jaron Jackson steps up,
00:23:09
Speaker
It becomes that guy if I shoot goofy shots. Yeah, if he becomes that guy The window is not gonna close that like that But if it does if he doesn't if he doesn't get better, it's not really about John cuz y'all might not be legal I mean actually he'll still be a leader gonna brush that off. Um, but yeah, I don't know about that bruh No, cuz I feel like he's gonna continue doing it. I don't think video I think he's dumb enough to keep my mature. I
00:23:36
Speaker
He might mature, like maybe Carmelo Anthony will talk to him or something. Melo? Yeah, remember he said he was bugging in the beginning, he kept going back to Baltimore and all that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And his coach talked to him like, he was like, yo, my man. He was like, you need to stop. He was like, oh, I'll get it now. I need to stop doing this. So maybe that will happen for John Morant, or maybe he'll just keep getting stirred over time. His pops should be telling him, stop doing dumb stuff.
00:24:05
Speaker
This pops us out every game. Maybe he is. So. I don't know. I don't trust him. I don't trust him.
00:24:14
Speaker
I like him. That's why I wanted us to get over RJ and even over Zion. I'm glad you're not doing that in New York. Do you know he'd probably be gone? Yeah. My pickup game now, it would have been over. It would have been over. Rucker's Park, he probably would be DOA'd. Yeah, it would have been over. DOA'd. It would not be pretty. Honestly, he wouldn't even try if he was in New York. He wouldn't try it. I'm on his team. I'm behind that.
00:24:39
Speaker
I don't know. I just feel like he's just reckless. Like... Nah, I think he know who to do it to because he, you know, doing that from... His homeboys were doing something from inside of a car.
00:24:51
Speaker
But you want something in your house. And a security guard. A mall cop, right? You said a mall cop? Yeah, mall security. Top flight. Craig and Dade. Yeah, Craig and Dade. Ain't that some shit? And then look, they try, he try, you know, they do the little NBA get in your face altercation thing on the courts. But I'm sure he's not really going to do that with
00:25:17
Speaker
LeBron, like, in the parking lot. I don't think he's gonna do that. No. LeBron's strategic team. Now, look, he could keep doing it. He gonna get Dak Prescott-ed. He gonna get pressed. And knocked out on the beach or something.
00:25:33
Speaker
That's all. We'll have to talk about this episode on like three more episodes, because you know he's going to probably do something else. I don't know. We'll see. We'll see. But you think Memphis is done for? As in like, by the end of this season, you think it's going to be like, it's not going to be what we see no more. The young guns is not going to be there like that. Like that team is not going to be the hype as it is. You know who actually could actually do it? And you all always hear me talking smack.
00:25:59
Speaker
I like their coach, but I feel like a real championship-winning coach would know how to correct, especially because this person was a guard, especially a point guard. That's why I told you earlier, I said Doc would be a better coach for him. I think Doc would have been like, yo, my man, do you want to win? I think he would sit him down and mature him better than what his coach is currently doing. That's why I said if Doc gets fired because of how Philly gets out in the first round, or maybe second round, Doc's next place should be in Memphis.
00:26:29
Speaker
but they gotta get rid of, bro, there. That's gonna happen. You think so? Yeah. We're bringing Doc in. Just let you know. Like, you gotta leave. I think they would do that. Yeah. All right, playoff bubbles. Hey, I know you love the trade deadline and everything like that, but the playoffs, just like anybody else, I feel like that's my Christmas. I love the playoffs, bro. Merry Christmas. You get to see two teams battle, so let's get in there. We getting close. All right.
00:26:58
Speaker
I'm gonna name two teams from the East and two teams for the West. We're gonna start with the East first. You got Chicago. Well, as you know, there's the play in from seven, eight, nine, 10. Seven is Miami. Eight is Atlanta. Nine is Toronto. 10 is Washington. Chicago and Indiana are one in two games from the... That's a bubble.
00:27:28
Speaker
Do you think Washington and Toronto are actually gonna be able to sustain being in this bubble bracket?
00:27:37
Speaker
bubble bracket Washington yes Toronto may be seeing this and may be thinking like yo we need to like lose games cuz Fred's not doing that no more what happened to him spicy was supposed to be gone he's gonna opt out here yeah he's done with yeah he's done that's what I'm saying those they might actually lose games so they can get better opportunities in the draft or anything like that spicy subset so I'm surprised he wasn't trying to get in and OG stayed remember OG we were supposed to get OG
00:28:05
Speaker
Yeah, I wasn't getting on the three first round pitch. Yeah, so. I liked Hart. You didn't. I didn't. I'm still reminding you about that. I like him on the squad now. We're winning. Good job, Josh Hart. But yeah, so I think.
00:28:17
Speaker
I think the Wizards might be able to pull it. I want the Wizards, I need them to actually make it to the playoffs. Because we actually, when we traded our pick this last year in the draft to OKC, one of those four first round picks was Washington. If Washington gets into the playoffs, that's ours for this year. Nice. So I'm hoping for Washington.
00:28:43
Speaker
But, do you see Chicago driving? No. You don't see Chicago? No. Big fella. Stretch Mark Poppy over here. What's going on? You let him go to work. No, I'm just saying. I don't think they're going. That's how I want to talk about Chicago.
00:28:58
Speaker
that horrible news
Lonzo Ball's Career Concerns Compared to Jayson Williams
00:29:00
Speaker
that basically Lonzo Ball is Jason Williams or J. Williams. Yeah, yo, they had it. Yo, that was a terrible, I was like, damn. His injury is gonna always, it's gonna get worse, no matter what. J. Williams did his with a motorcycle accident. What did Lonzo do? It's called playing AAU all year round. Good God, yes he did, yo. Yeah. Because of all these injuries that I'm seeing right now, that right here. I told you that in college. He never said it. Lies, come on man, don't disrespect me like that. Receipts.
00:29:29
Speaker
I'm sure he thought about it. But I don't know. I said that low management should have been happening in AAU. They didn't do that. AAU, not in the media. I think it really is just an overkill of basketball. Because then they go from AAU, and they travel in tournaments, and then they be in summer league, and they be doing that. And some of them go play football. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Then they play basketball.
00:29:55
Speaker
I mean, the kids that we play against, they play on their middle school team and like either a rec or a AU team. Or all three. It's crazy. Yeah. Your parents are crazy.
00:30:06
Speaker
That's a lot of, I mean, that's a lot of ball, but it's just like, at the same point in time, when you come in like, and you that nice, it's just like, all right, cool. You need to like space this out a little bit. Like, your time span to get to the league ain't gonna be there. But look at like KD. KD only played on like one team. He wasn't on 10 different traveling teams. He was on one.
00:30:26
Speaker
He was the one that traveled. He was the one that traveled, but he wasn't on 10 different teams like these players are. We're just fans. I'm pretty sure KD had a little tour. No, no, no. He was on the circuit, but it wasn't like how it was. Remember KD? Oh, yeah, it wasn't like how it was. He wasn't like, yeah. How it was now. D Rose, one team. Playing pro-ams. And though, y'all, don't forget all that training that they be doing now. Yeah. Yeah, and that's supposed to be helping, and they ain't helping. It's supposed to be helping.
00:30:55
Speaker
the skills but now it's like every a lot of them are real hyper skilled but it's all drill drill drill so when it comes to the game what are they doing they're not used to actual gameplay yeah hot trash i'm about to go at it different with like a mari
00:31:12
Speaker
Cause you know, we live in Allentown now. He could really be on nine teams, but we're not doing it. We'll probably do like the rec team or the AAU team, you know, during basketball season. And then after that, you probably will do track and field cause I don't want him burning out like this.
00:31:33
Speaker
Yo, it got Lonzo up out of here though. It got Lonzo out. And look at his brother. Look at Melo. He's done. He's done. I didn't see what he did. Yo, it wasn't even like he fell back and it was just like, you think he just sprayed his ankle? It was like a straight fracture. He said he was gonna pop.
00:31:53
Speaker
I didn't hear what he said like I just looked at I was watching the game and I was like oh and then he got up and then they were like yo he's like oh I heard something but I'm a good they were like nah come on come to the back he's like all right yeah he went on he went on instagram live like he got like pop after it was all done he had pop eyes he was just like german to his drill uh he don't he the league bro
00:32:20
Speaker
Those, the Ball brothers, they play basketball like forever. They're like, yeah, I'm in the league now. You know their dad, except Jello. I feel bad for that fool. Yeah, they screw Jello over. I mean, but he messed his own wave up. He messed his own little setup up. But still, Jello should have at least been there.
00:32:36
Speaker
He was the better shooter, honestly. I can see him on Memphis. So that he can act a fool with Ja. He's just too short, that's what it is, like for his skill set.
00:32:53
Speaker
Yeah, I don't know why I didn't, I really don't know why I did not put him. I thought he was, he's up there in height. He ain't short. I think he's as short as the brothers now. I know what he's meaning. Like for him being like he's short, in his eyes short and stocky for a shooting guard where most shooting guards are like taller and like. He's a tight end body type. Yeah. He should be 6'9". Okay. He should be Jason Tatum. He ain't got the jumper. Like you,
Dwight Howard's Overseas Performance
00:33:20
Speaker
he has a skill set.
00:33:23
Speaker
And nobody played defense right now, so it's just like you got this skill set. Nobody plays defense. You got skills at your shoes. For some reason, it hasn't worked out for him. No. He'll continue to be in the G League for Charlotte. Yeah. Or pro-ams and all that. I'd probably rather do that. He should just go overseas. He might get his money. Nah, for real. Dwight scores 84 points every game. Dwight's ass over there, though. He was doing a three-point contest. I saw that. Sadly.
00:33:52
Speaker
Pained me. I couldn't watch the whole thing. Shaq was already cracking on him. Shaq got no love or respect for him. No, he don't. He's always hated him. You know who else would he hated? He hated buying him. Oh, he didn't like buying him. Really? Yeah, he didn't like buying him. Because they compared him to the next baby Shaq and he had to son him. Shaq had to son him. Yeah. Take a move. Who's your team in the West?
00:34:18
Speaker
All right, I'm gonna talk about the seven, I mean, seven, eight, nine, 10, and then talk about my two. LA, seven. And Minnesota is eight. Nine is Utah. 10 is New Orleans. The two that I'm gonna talk about, and they are both like one and two from getting the temp seed. The Lakers, Portland. Do you see either of them getting into the play in? Portland.
00:34:44
Speaker
With who? With who? They probably could sneak in at Lakers. No, without Bronner. And then he's out for three weeks. Nah, I don't see him winning games. You got to go on a tear and lose like seven games. Who? They got less than 20 games left. You think they're going to take a dive now? Yeah. And who's going to fall out? Who's going to fall out?
00:35:06
Speaker
The Clippers, Minnesota, Utah, New Orleans. Clippers. The Clippers. They say Russ is bad luck. He's lost 14 games straight as a starting point guard. Starting. That was our topic later on. We can just go right into it. Because seriously.
00:35:28
Speaker
Are these games his fault? Yo, I feel bad. No. Are you watching these games? No, no, no, no. I'm still your thunder. Do you hear what they talked about with Draymond? Oh, yeah, I did just read that. That was disrespectful. I just read that. He wasn't lying, though. But that interview, right? Yeah. He wasn't lying, though. And it begs the question, how hard is it
00:35:52
Speaker
to just work on your shot for two years. Like how hard is it to just get better at shooting? But he didn't have to do that for so long. He's like Melo, he was stuck in his way. Now he has to. But you can't teach an old dog new tricks unless Melo realized when he got banished for that year.
00:36:12
Speaker
It's gonna take Westbrook to get banished. Well, it wasn't like it was a flaw in Mellow's game. It was just like, all right, come off the bench. And he couldn't do that. That's all it was. And then he was allowed to impose his will. Yeah. And then look, look at D-rolls. Look at Vince Carter.
00:36:27
Speaker
Vince is a different breed. He came from that era where he, even though he was great, he had veterans who was like, yo, there's going to be a time in your life where you're going to slide from a star to a veteran who actually can do well off the bench. Mellow ain't hear that. He's like, yeah, Mellow thought he was going to be like Bron. He thought he was going to be Bron the whole way. Yeah, that's because they was comparing him. He's cool now.
00:36:50
Speaker
I mean, he cool now, not being in the league. He knows the deal, but I mean, like last time he was on the league, last two times he was on the league. He should've got a championship. He should go to Phoenix. Oh, they were talking about that. They were talking about it. You think like right now it's Phoenix is on their way. Assuming everyone stays healthy. Yeah, it's great. But you know Chris Paul gonna get hurt tomorrow. They got man. It was fun. It's not very nice. They got man. They didn't get rid of him. He's good. Who, Payne? Train man.
00:37:17
Speaker
Trey, he was starting at the point guard and then Payne was the backup. They were starting, man was starting at point when Chris Paul was, he already got, he got hurt already this season. He was out for something. And man, yes, he was, he was on that roster. Are you not talking about the Clippers? Oh, I'm probably talking about the Clippers. Yeah, man. I'm so, I'm so caught up on the Clippers. That's why I was looking at you like,
00:37:46
Speaker
But yeah, yeah, you're right. If Chris Paul's gone, it's gone. I think about Russ, if they get switched, it's over. That's what I'm saying. If that happens, yeah, just start him. He should have just been the... He should have came off the bench. Now, guess who we get to blame? That's Kawhi. Kawhi? Kawhi said he wanted a new starting point guard. Blaming Kawhi. Kawhi said he wants a new starting point guard. Wall got left out. They didn't say, go get Russell. They didn't say that. And then they had to start the man. Paul and Kawhi had to sign off on that.
00:38:17
Speaker
You know they asked if they wanted him Paul George wanted him Kawhi signed off on it. How does he know this? Never say that
00:38:33
Speaker
The only time they was together. So why did they cut wall? That man doesn't know what he's talking about. Disrespect my man. All right, that's cool. When I give you no more rumors, you're going to be like... Nah, he should come out with the bench. He should. He should. But Kawhi wanted a new starting point guard. And look at, yo, if you see them highlights from, yo, turnovers like crazy and crucial. You know that sad song you played? Crucial possessions, huh? That sad little song of music that you did on the one time. Oh, yeah, yeah. That's what you need to put next time. Yeah.
00:39:02
Speaker
it's bad like it's bad like he didn't know so the beginning of the game he had a nice uh alley you passed then after that it was getting turnovers it was like he was getting picked it was like he was throwing the ball like to the stands i'm like yo like he's he's trying to throw it at somebody but it's like overthrowing it it's terrible with him i think he should not be in la i think he's putting too much pressure on himself in la my man was the hometown yeah he was three for 12
00:39:30
Speaker
Field goal. Jesus. How many turnovers did he have? I'm about to pull that up. He has six assists. And he has four turnovers. The ratio is horrible. And he had eight points. That's... Whoa. What about rebounds and assists? It's Russ. We gotta hear that at least. Is that helping him out?
00:39:52
Speaker
Zero for both? Zero rebounds, my man. That's not good. I mean, that guy's Zubak. I mean, it don't matter. It's Russ. He shouldn't be putting up these something needs to... Remember when I kept telling you he had to be the focal point. He ain't the focal point.
00:40:07
Speaker
No, he's not. He got to play for OKC. He can play for Charlotte. The sad thing about him is how you said he never had to change. His game never had to be a point guard like that. He always had to be. He's not a facilitator. What he needs to be is a facilitator at this point. He's a running back is what he is. A dying running back. Yeah. Oh, damn. That sucks. And then here comes Tony. Like getting all the yards, everything, all the highlight plays.
00:40:37
Speaker
But the other L.A. issue, what's up, the Lakers? Yeah. So bronze out A.D. They sit in the mouth because he had a stress reaction with his foot. Yeah. Is LeBron's career slowly going on to decline or is this another bad season for him? Health wise, I mean, he's getting hurt. He's breaking down. He's breaking down. He's dissolving.
00:41:06
Speaker
I mean, he still is playing at a high level, but now we're gonna get ready to start seeing him coming in and out from injuries. He's finally turning human a little bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That hurts. He missed seasons. That hurts. His shoulder, his knee. The Achilles. Oh yeah, that was the hurt. That was the one. I was like, damn, I can't believe it. That one, I watched that game. You know what the sad thing is? When we were younger, I would actually step and watch the Laker games because of Kobe.
00:41:34
Speaker
It was worth it sometimes. Yeah, I would stay up. I would watch playoff games and all that. It was worth it. If I was watching like a Nick game, because you know what happened back when we really sucked for them 10 years, I fell asleep. I would watch the first quarter fall asleep for the second and third. Here that we're winning by four points in the fourth quarter and then see lose, I wake up and be like, OK, cool. Then next TNT or ESPN would be the Lakers game. I watched the whole Laker game. I used to do that on purpose, actually. Not literally.
00:42:01
Speaker
I used to turn on the first quarter and be like, we're losing by seven. And I'd ignore the second and third. And then I would come back to see what was going on on MSG. And then I'd be watching like the Pistons or something. The Pistons are playing. Let me watch them play Portland. I'd rather that.
00:42:20
Speaker
then all the year. We went through a lot. But the thing about Bron right now is like, I think it's the most game he's ever missed in his career is with L.A. Yeah. So it is father time catching up like you were saying. It's just like, hey, we might see him really be sitting out unless he's like, I think he has to really think about like, was it worth pushing it this hard this season? I don't think so. No. But at the same point in time, like it's like, dude,
00:42:49
Speaker
your next season, you gotta figure out when it's gonna be the right time to actually step it up. He could've probably his final season broke Kareem's record and just went out like that instead of doing it now. He said go out like that? He said I'm done. Yeah like broke the record and that would've been his last season and that could've been with Bronnie. He's still waiting for Bronnie and I think he should, I mean he should probably stop. Like are you ready to see LeBron James come off the bench?
00:43:17
Speaker
I don't I think he'd be crazy. I think if he does and he don't win six men that I mean if he does win six man the Award now be dope. I'll be so I think I think it'd be funny like dad. This guy's Yeah, I can't see a patent status like you just man is patent awards. Yo, he's just getting awards padding.
00:43:37
Speaker
Do you think Joker really pats? I know
Nikola Jokic's Skills Discussion
00:43:40
Speaker
we just got no, okay. Good. I don't think so I don't know people are hating on him thinking that he yeah, I just think he's just playing a game I don't think he's patting status. I think he's just like hey the ball comes my way. I do what I have to do I pass like his passes are ridiculous, though It's a skill it's an underrated. I don't think it's like that it would be a
00:43:46
Speaker
Oh
00:44:02
Speaker
I don't know, like nah, not at all. I was gonna say it would be another thing if they were losing, but nah, he's winning it like it's working. He's gonna rebound because he's that big and he's the big and he's down here. Someone said in the media he has the same IQ like Brian when it comes to playing basketball. The only reason why that just
00:44:22
Speaker
I don't see it. I just see it. He's a really good passer, and he's a good big. Yeah, that's about it. Defense-wise, I don't know. Shooting-wise, you gotta have a shooting IQ. Like, all right, cool. It's time for me to take the ball and score. You guys are hard to go. He doesn't really do that as much. Someone has to feed him the ball. He's not coming up the court like, all right, cool. I got this. Chill. I don't know. And then part of me thinks like,
00:44:51
Speaker
When you see these, you know, the trade-off with all these giant, skinny, bowl bowl scorer dudes is when you get a yokage in the middle, they're getting pushed. What are you gonna do? You know what I'm saying? And then he's mad skilled too. So like, I don't know if he was going against Divac. Like maybe it would be a little harder for him, but like you used to have those. Remember big sub-bonus? I was a big dude. Even like the Galskis.
00:45:19
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Oh, wow. All them dudes. I forgot about, bro. Who do you have, who does that? You got like Steven Adams. They don't even got Mosgolf. Y'all know I love Mosgolf. Y'all know why. If you name dropped him the other day, I was like, what? No, I didn't. Y'all love Mosgolf, say. You see me, Mosgolf? What? Y'all, I loved that guy. But like, you don't have big, bigs like that. That's a dying breed. And B is one of the last ones. Or they beat down me on us as one? No.
00:45:49
Speaker
I mean, he's as big as a big, but that's what I'm saying. I consider him like a big version of magic. Like a more, like a bigger, because he literally dribbles the ball like magic. He's literally passing. He's literally scoring. He doesn't, can't shoot that much like magic. Yeah. Magic wasn't really that, he wasn't that type of a shooter though. He was like in the low post. I'm saying like he was like the low post jump. Oh yeah. That was his game. Yeah. But predominantly just driven.
00:46:19
Speaker
would you consider Ayrton? As what? Ayrton as what? As a big. As a big. Well. D'Andre Ayrton? Like an old school big? Yeah. No, I mean he's a big and then like today he's like a big but you got to think about it like he's probably not a big like drumming.
00:46:39
Speaker
Like maybe Drummond can take that. Yeah. But you're not going to outscore him. No. At all. At all. Like, you think about it, what? The Lopez dudes? Maybe. Brooke. Brooke and Robin. But your kid's just going to do it to them too. He's just... I don't think he can shoot like Brooke. Brooke actually spots up. Like his shot is that corner three. Like, then he spreads the court that way from Milwaukee for Giannis to actually go in the lane every single time. That's why...
00:47:09
Speaker
But Brooker's only good for a certain amount of minutes because remember he blew out his back. But still, when he's on the court, he spreads the court out. No, I agree. No, I give you that. He's dissolving it. He's dissolving it. And his threes, he's dropping. He's making them. I watched him in Brook. Yo, when we went, saw him doing that.
00:47:25
Speaker
I thought that was weird at first, but then he's consistently doing it. Two bad Robin couldn't do that. Robin couldn't shoot past 10 feet. I don't know what's up with bruh. This game is totally different. The twins. Yeah. Their game is totally different. One strictly rebounds. Another is just a nice big one. Well-rounded. And shoots. Yeah. But yeah. Since now you talk about recaps, you bring people back. Let's talk about this.
Analysis of Philly-Brooklyn Trade
00:47:50
Speaker
We got to talk about two cities. One by the name of Brooklyn and one by the name of Philly.
00:47:58
Speaker
Last year we talked about the recap, who actually got the best end of the deal. You said Brooklyn, I said Brooklyn, you said Philly. Let's talk about it again now.
00:48:13
Speaker
Who do you still think had, do you think Brooklyn still got the best end of the deal? I mean, I don't know. The team is going. So, obviously. Do you still think, Brooklyn, no, do you still think Philly got it? Philly got the best end of the deal. I still say Brooklyn. How? Because you got a harder one foot out the door. You win. If you don't win the championship, he's going. Both of the teams are winning.
00:48:39
Speaker
I understand this way. Both of these teams aren't winning. So who got the best deal? The team that doesn't have any of those star players or the team that still has the star players and are going to make the playoffs. So, okay. So Philly- I'm feeling green with this dude too much. Yeah, I'm excited. Philly got James Carter and Paul Millsup. Millsup is gone. James is still there. If they don't win this year and James goes, does Philly win the deal?
00:49:05
Speaker
it's like it's like it's a draw on that like nobody wins that because but if they wait no wait you said they if they make the playoffs or no they win and go deep into the playoffs and get a championship they will win that deal yeah but harness not getting that championship this year
00:49:21
Speaker
If they get to the playoffs, Philly still wins. And if Brooklyn gets to the playoffs, Brooklyn's not getting to the playoffs. They're still in the playoff contest. Brooklyn is not getting to the playoffs. What if Brooklyn gets to the playoffs and Ben Simmons doesn't do anything? Ben Simmons is not going to do anything. Brooklyn is six right now. Going to all their games. How many games have they lost so far? They've been getting, they've been getting beat up. They had, they had two games that was like, oh, it might work. Then,
00:49:49
Speaker
It was like, it's not gonna work. They got Ben still, they got Seth Curry, Drummond's gone. See, he didn't even go down the list of the games. No, no, no, no, we're gonna, I'm gonna talk about that. They had the 22 unprotected pick. They got a 27 unprotected first round there. Right now, this is what they got left in March. They got 16 games total, but they got, let me see, let me see, pull this up. Tonight, they got Celtics. Oh.
00:50:20
Speaker
They losing that game. They got Hornets next. That's going to be a good game for them. That should be a win. They got the Rockets, a win. Should be a win. Bucks. That's an L. Timber Wolves. That's an L, too. That's an L. Goldberg, he's back. That's an L. We should literally write this down. Put it down. Cadusa, can we have a pen, please? And it's going to put in numbers.
00:50:48
Speaker
and the waffle loses bars to cheesesteak that name. Nah, write this down, so we're gonna save this paper. What am I writing down, though? So we're gonna write, we're gonna put tallies. So you're saying they're gonna lose to Celtics tonight, so just put an L. Go against the Hornets, that's gonna be a W. Should be a W for them. Rockets, W. Bucks, L. Oh yeah, for sure.
00:51:18
Speaker
Timo Williams, I'm saying a win. I don't trust him because Go Burt's been horrible. That one's a, unless you wanna find a way, say a tie. You wanna, we'll put a tie. Nuggets, they're gonna get smoked. Thunder, that should be a win. I must say, that's an L too. You wanna put a tie? Yeah, I got, no, I'm gonna put down what I put down, put down what you put down. Shy gonna put in work.
00:51:45
Speaker
The Kings, they'll lose to the Kings. Nuggets, they're gonna get beat up. Cleveland, they're gonna get beat up. Cleveland, again, they're gonna get beat up. They go back to back. Miami is hurt, so I'm gonna say a win.
00:52:04
Speaker
I'm gonna say it went from Miami. I can probably say that. Miami gonna win. They hurt now though. Now here's the thing. Then you got Orlando. Depending on their mood. That's it now. I'm going to Orlando. All right. No, no, no. We got five more games in April. Utah, I'm gonna say a win. A win? A win. I'm going with the hell, man.
00:52:28
Speaker
Minnesota, if you say they lose, then they're gonna lose this one. I think they're gonna win one and lose one. Detroit's a win. Detroit? Yeah. Orlando, I'm gonna say this time they win. And then Philly to end the season. I'm gonna go with a win. That's a win because I'm not gonna play nobody. Yeah, so I'm gonna go with a win.
00:52:53
Speaker
OK, one, two, three, three games that we we went over that we are discussing out of there. We'll go back and see which those games are and then we'll see what's up and then we'll we're going to save this paper. We're going to save this. That's cool. So I think I think and that's just March. This is March. March your neighbor. Say less. And that was. Yeah. March your neighbor. See who right. Time will tell you what you play. You play.
00:53:20
Speaker
I put the ones that I said and put the ones that you said and we'll see this guy with So you're gonna save this we're gonna put this on eBay one day your signature That's cool, that's cool. Do you have a game tonight do I ever Cue the music
00:53:46
Speaker
He sleeping on the squad. They gonna get wet, boy. Let me see this. Why he playing the game, so. You got to pull up in all black one day, man. Listen. Hey, that's coming.
00:54:15
Speaker
You know we gotta come back around the Halloween. The fact of the matter, right? We got the young bucks, and some of them are being more annoying than the other ones. We're going with Ja Morant. He needs a father figure.
00:54:39
Speaker
A real goon. And we're just going to go around and talk about some of the favorite goons who could really teach him a thing or two about what it is that, you know, the real Thugging. Thug loving? What? Ja Rule. He's on my NBA player. Yeah. Yes.
00:55:05
Speaker
Yeah, you need a couple days off work, bro. Say that a couple days off, you know? We're going old school. We're going OK. He wanted to fight with, you know, who is he not trying? You know what I'm saying? I got two. Who is he not trying? I got two. We got whole squads.
00:55:24
Speaker
We got two generations of Pistons. Yeah. Because even just Ben Wallace would just look at him and shut that down. Dennis Rodman? Dennis. Well, Dennis didn't care. He would just be in the way, knocking him down. No, but he was mentally mentored. Mentally. So he would cry. Yeah. Make him cry. Charles Oakley.
00:55:46
Speaker
Oh, man. Oh. I mean, hey. Anthony Mason. It's been around a league that nobody messes with. Oh, like, it's over. Scotty Trippin knows that lesson very, very well. Bro, it doesn't happen. Everybody gets over on him, even Marcus Jordan. Yeah. But Marcus Jordan was on, like, a Today show or something talking about their relationship. I was like, yo, this is embarrassing. She got Jordan and Juanita blessing. What? To be getting piped by Marcus Jordan.
00:56:16
Speaker
Cool.
00:56:19
Speaker
Who's one of your favorite ghouls you think can match up with? I'm gonna go with who he wouldn't squad up with is Meta. He would learn. Oh, word. It's over. Because I feel like that would happen. Like, if Meta was playing, he'd be like, yo, what? Yeah, one of them, he would try to dunk. Yeah, oh, yeah, we'll stop that. And then it would get shut down. So then you would go with the palace again. It would be the punch underneath the basket. I honestly just had one, but I got another one. Meta's right-hand man.
00:56:48
Speaker
Jack. Steven Jacks. Aw, I wish he hadn't done that. Cause nobody's talking about guards. Guess what? I got one. Gary Payton.
00:56:56
Speaker
Oh, Glove? Yeah. Why would you probably like... Well, Glove would... Glove would mess him up. Yeah, he would mess me up. And Xavier Daniels, no one knows about the X-Man like that. Yeah. Oh, he was crazy though. Biggie does, right? See if that's what that song was about. No. No. It was about... It was about Anthony Mason. Mason? Okay. Yeah. How about this? It was about Mason. Yeah. Fat Joe said that. He was like, yo, it was...
00:57:20
Speaker
And now, so now it's on me. I got to come up with a different guard. Because everybody who we're going to talk about is like a bigger guy. Like even Rashid. Like he, that's a bigger guy. Rashid would kill us. We'd have him at Temple Hospital tomorrow morning. Yo. Yo, that'd be wild. We would have him at... I'm trying to... He wouldn't even bother, Rashid.
00:57:44
Speaker
Now you know what he needs? He needs Skip to my Lou. He needs Ray for Austin. With Austin. Remember to smack the shit out of anyone you know. Yo, we were on the phone. I was at Z's. We were on the phone though.
00:58:02
Speaker
He smacked the fire out of himself. And the announcers are wrong for this. And they were like, yeah, you can't do that. You don't spin a guy. You can't spin. That's what he was saying. You don't spin. Spin for him. That's crazy. He smacked him in his headband to the womb.
00:58:19
Speaker
Let the logo flip. The DJ sound. Like a wave around the joint and move the headband around a little bit. That was funny, yo. So yeah, I think... I got another guard if you don't say anything. You got who you got.
00:58:37
Speaker
I'm trying to think of somebody like there has to be somebody else. I'm forgetting. Derek Fisher. Derek. I'm lying. Beat up. I'm lying. I'm lying. All right. When we say mine. Y'all, I do. Agent Zero.
00:58:57
Speaker
Gil? Oh, yeah. What? Gil? That's a straight shooter. Gil would threaten him and be like, yo, the gun. Where's yours at? And you want to do them and say, where's yours at? And that was over gambling. Yeah. I heard Rashid talk about that. I guess it's a game that they like to play called Boo Ray. I don't really gamble that much, so I don't know these games.
00:59:26
Speaker
but apparently it causes divorces and everything. I owe you 80, 40K, and I owe you 55K. It's just big stakes, I guess, big stakes. They don't play for little money, and people get down bad. They just keep going, but it ended up getting a gun in. Who was your last dude? Oh, Jersey native, JR. JR? I don't think he would have been that tight.
00:59:51
Speaker
He might've said something to him. Yeah, that's all. I mean, like, like, like, consequences. Yeah, I think, like, who was he going to tie up? Jera was a... And he would try to say something, and then the other person would actually do something. Like, like running into David West or something. David West was a big man from Jersey. What are you talking about? A guard, though. I know. I'm looking for a guard. I don't remember. You took mine. I was going to stay Steve and Jackson. Oh, okay, okay.
01:00:21
Speaker
He don't count as a guard for a six, eight. He's a guard forward. He was a guard. He was a guard, though. Six, eight. Guard forward. Did nigga play a guard? Yes, I'm saying. He was a guard. Sorry. Guard forward. That's how they do them. Reggie Miller wasn't a guard. Reggie Miller wasn't a guard. So what the hell was he like six, nine? Reggie?
01:00:43
Speaker
Reginald, was he not 6'9"? No. He's like 6'5". I pull up the stat. Fuck this next. He said no of them. You supposed to know, right? I said 6
Player Height and Position Debate
01:00:55
Speaker
'5". I said 6'5".
01:00:58
Speaker
So he's six, seven. See? So you were wrong. You lost to me, and I got a bucket hat on. No, you said six, nine. You lost a guy. You said he was six, nine. So what? So you were wrong, too. It's a tie. Mine was closer than six, five. Six, five is closer than six, seven. He said six, nine. So it was a tie. Very nice. I think most people would perceive it to be higher. Hey, listen. David Jackson's a guard. He is.
01:01:25
Speaker
You lost. Nah. You do lose. We pulled it up. We pulled it up Steven Jackson. I pulled up Reggie. I think Gilbert is the best one on there, though. Gilbert is the best one on there, though. We just randomly said it. You said it. I picked him. You picked him, but you had five. Who won my five? I said the glove, and then I said freaking Agent Zero. It was my two. No. There's two in the beginning. What? Those two. Oh, he said, because it wasn't guards. You said some big men. Yeah, you said big men. But when he said guards, I gave two guards, and that was it. OK, OK. But still.
01:01:54
Speaker
Gilbert, Agent Zero was the best one. I ain't gonna front. Like, that was the best one. There's nobody else who used to fight all the time.
01:02:05
Speaker
forward shooting guard, Steven Jackson. Shooting guard is very guardy. Yes, he's a guard. So now every guard at six, every one at six, eight, we're going to consider shooting guards? Yes. If he's a shooting guard. Most of them are. Well, this is a new league in there, but yeah, sure. It's a new league. It's a new day. When you pull up that
Aggressive NBA Players and On-Court Fights
01:02:27
Speaker
Malice and the Palace documentary, they gonna be like, yeah, Steven, you know, he was my guard.
01:02:33
Speaker
Pause right there. When you do that, I'll take, I'll gladly say I was wrong, no problem. He was going for guards, cut. Nobody ever says he was a forward. No, no. He played, when he played in San Antonio, he was playing that forward. Yo, ain't no pops all that. Pop had him doing his damn stuff. You don't like pop, yeah.
01:02:54
Speaker
I really want to come up with just one more. He was a forward? How? Yeah. Timmy was a center and then they put Jack. Maybe like Spree or something. I just did an assignment, trust me. What about Spree? I was going to say Spree, but I actually had to go with Agent Zero. He likes to be a coach. Spree's a good one. Spree's a good one. Spree's a good one.
01:03:19
Speaker
I still think Goober. Yo, that's, it's a shootout agent zero, yo. It's a shootout, like, it matches up perfectly. We're trying to find one night, one more 90s. Like, who's really about that right now? Like, I'm trying to think of like, like, like, Timberwolves with KEG and stuff like that. Wally Zerbier. I hope he takes the L. Cause then you think about it, like, who? Anthony Peeler. Like the tough guy. Yo, we all buggin'. Nick Vianexo.
01:03:47
Speaker
Yeah. Nick Van. And that's my guy, too. Nick Van. I actually thought you were going to say that. No, I didn't. Nick Van Exel. He a fighter like that? Like, you feel like he would be up job? Like, he would get into it with John Marant? I mean, I think he would cook John Marant. Oh, for sure. He would do that and fight him. Cook him.
01:04:09
Speaker
That might be it. You know it's not, but we're gonna think about it later. As soon as this episode ends, we're gonna, like, have five. Dang, I got one! You know, that's what I was gonna say. We gotta do, like, a poll.
01:04:20
Speaker
like a fighting guard. Get a picture I'm posting. Hey, yo, what? Get a picture, get five. Get one of them guards, cause it's like, how does he not, I mean, because he's a guard, like Kelly Oubre. Kelly Oubre likes antagonizing people and pissing people off and getting
Famous NBA Player Altercations
01:04:39
Speaker
a piece. Birdman did too. That's true. Yeah. That would only come. You put them all the way out there. He got banished for a year.
01:04:50
Speaker
He got bent, he failed his drug test. Put my man's out there. He's obviously out of the league, right? Yeah, I hope so. He got his championship, he retired. Yeah. Who you got a championship with? Miami. Yup, yup, yup. Back in the day, I was up there. I was gonna say you watched it with him. I was up there. That stupid band man. Damn, I'm trying to think of another one. There had to be somebody thorough.
01:05:17
Speaker
I'm trying to think. Nick Anderson? I don't know. He got sad after he missed that free throw. Bobby Jackson. Sacramento. Was he tough? Yeah.
01:05:33
Speaker
I know who he was Bobby Jackson. I remember his like he got into it Eddie house There you go. Hey house, you know, he got smacked any house I Know the name but I won't butcher it who a punch Kobe Chris Charles. Yeah, Chris Charles. There we go. He punched Kobe. Oh
01:05:58
Speaker
Yeah. Punch anybody. Punch Kobe. Yo, for real. Maybe Nate will come in. Steve Kerr. Steve Kerr. Oh, god. Steve Kerr. He eats punches. I'm joking. You know, he had a black eye when Michael came to apologize. He was still upset.
Podcast Outro and Poll Discussion
01:06:16
Speaker
You know, Steve.
01:06:19
Speaker
If you had just listened. Steve probably had the scratch ball in his hand. He was like... With the stick on his eye. I'm very upset with you, Mike. HR came and talked to them. Hey, that's crazy. He punched our star, one of our point guards in practice today. Get a black eye. Come on, fam. Yeah, that's... I'm good. We gonna do the pole. Let's do it. We gonna set it up. We gonna set it up.
01:06:49
Speaker
Send this home. Ayo, it's the Friends vs. Friends podcast. We outta here. Peace. See you next episode.