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197 - The Dead One a.k.a. El Muerto (2007)
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“Sometimes, just sometimes, the crow can bring that soul back to put the wrong things right…”
This week, with a remake of The Crow coming to theaters, we’re talking about a fairly obvious ripoff of the original film… or, more accurately avoiding talking about it! Join us for a slew of tangents that includes the films of Steve Oedekerk, ads on streaming services, the Muppets and SNL, the directing career of Jason Reitman, and Tucker’s relationship with the movie Day of the Dead! (Hey - this movie takes place on the Day of the Dead!)
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Transcript
Introduction and Thematic Setup
00:00:21
Speaker
People once believed that when someone dies, a crow carries their soul to the land of the dead. But sometimes, something so bad happens that a terrible sadness is carried with it and the soul can't rest. Then sometimes,
00:00:35
Speaker
Just sometimes, the crow can bring that soul back to put wrong things right. Wrong things. Like the disenfranchised podcast, or that podcast all about those franchises of one. Those films that fancy themselves full fledged franchises before falling flat on their face after the first film.
Hosts Introduction and Main Segment
00:00:54
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I am your host, Steven Foxworthy, and dutifully joining me, as always, ever present, ever vigilant,
00:01:01
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ever standing watchful eye over whatever the hell we're doing here. It's Tucker. Hey, Tucker. Hello, Steven. I figure it's kind of like Ritz, but it's kind of do a little hello nurse with it. I would say very animated acts. Yeah.
Pinball Machine and Humorous Tone
00:01:19
Speaker
So there's we have a new pinball machine. I think I've discussed this with you maybe here at the at the spot here called teed off. And it's it's kind of a caddyshack theme, you know, and you're fighting the gopher while you're golfing and stuff. And there are two things that one of two things it will say when you press the start button and begin your game. And one of them is the hello, Steven. He says he addresses the ball and the moose says, hello, ball.
00:01:49
Speaker
And sometimes I say, he undresses the ball. Hello ball. And it's really funny. Just like it was just then when I did it. Right. Yeah. And nothing, nothing makes a joke funnier than explaining it. So well done. Well, if you, if you explain it before, it's almost like the joke itself is a punchline. If you have to explain it after it kind of loses some pizzazz. That's how I feel about it.
Vacation Mention and Fez Reference
00:02:14
Speaker
Fair. Nothing wrong with a little joke exposition.
00:02:18
Speaker
Fair enough. Our friend Brett is currently, I don't know, on a vacation to Southern California. Hanging out with Fez, dude. Hanging out with Fez. Yeah. Based on who based on the canon. God help him hanging out with Fez. Who based on the canon of that character would be probably in his 70s now, I feel like.
00:02:45
Speaker
Yeah, him and Ned Flanders both, just characters that are way older than they seem on TV. That's true.
The Crow Remake Discussion
00:02:54
Speaker
And yeah, we are here. Look, Tucker, they're doing a remake of The Crow. Most people are not excited about it, including us. Not terribly excited about it. So we decided, in the spirit of not being excited about something,
00:03:14
Speaker
to cover a movie we're really not that excited about.
Introduction to 'El Muerto'
00:03:18
Speaker
No. And and what what movie did we decide to cover this week, Tucker? We decided to cover two thousand I mean two thousand I mean two thousand sevens. And we're oh, the dead one.
00:03:37
Speaker
El Muerto, or in English, the dead one, because you can't find it under just one name, based on the comic book, El Muerto, the Aztec Zombie, directed and written by Brian Cox, based on the comic by Javier Hernandez. Not that Brian Cox. No. Let's make it very clear. Very clear. Not that Brian Cox. The Brian Cox you're thinking of,
00:04:04
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The one telling you to fuck off right now? Not that one. Different one. Different guy.
Cast Discussion and Mixed Feelings
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And starring Wilmer Valderrama, Andy Cepeda, Joel David Moore, Michael Parks, Tony Plana, EJ Callahan, Tony Amandola, Alfonso Arau, Billy Drago, and Maria Conchita Alonzo, along with many others. What a cast. Oh, Tucker.
00:04:32
Speaker
I don't know if I can bring myself to do it, but here goes. What a picture. Sorry. I have to get my bucket real quick when you said that. You know, there was one interesting one thing. There was nothing good about this movie. Nothing, nothing. And you know what? There should have been because Michael Parks is in it, but not even Michael. I've never seen Michael Parks phone in a performance.
00:04:56
Speaker
You have now. You have now. Until now. I didn't know he had it in him, but damn.
Critique of 'El Muerto'
00:05:03
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Damn. Wow. He's just like looking at the ground, just like taking his dialogue as fast as he can so he can get the fuck out of there. Yeah. Let me let me let me get I've never seen Michael Park just so badly want to go cash a paycheck. Yes. Oh, it's disappointing. But the only thing I thought that was interesting, again, not good about this movie, but was interesting is it
00:05:27
Speaker
A lot of it was shot like a black and white movie, framing and the lighting and everything. I was like, this, this looks like they, they brought John Ford back and made him make this shitty Mexican crow ripoff.
00:05:46
Speaker
I'd love to see it in black and white just to be like, yeah, see, see, it does look good in black and white. It probably would be a better film in black and white. Like, honestly, it probably and there's there's a part because like a lot of indie comics, the original comic was just a black and white comic.
00:06:06
Speaker
Yeah, like so I would in the contrast on the face of Diego, our main character, Diego de la Muerte, which that that last name reminded me a lot of our good friend, the cemetery man. He's the cemetery man. Yeah, he's his cousin, his cousin from another place. Yeah, there's some similarity there for sure. Yeah.
00:06:33
Speaker
But not as much similarity as there is with, let me check my notes here, The Crow. This is a pretty, pretty bald-faced crow ripoff, honestly. Just released like 13 years after the original film. Well, they've been making sequels, though after the second one, they were direct to video up to that point. I think the last one came out not too far from that.
00:06:59
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time. But I don't know, like, like I was telling you before the record, like most everything in it I could forgive because it was similar, but it wasn't like a direct ripoff. Right.
Audio Issues and Viewing Tips
00:07:12
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But then there was that narration. Mm hmm. Which was structured and beat for beat, though not word for word. The true narration. Right.
00:07:27
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Yeah, I mean, it's it's functionally it's functionally the crow with different makeup. And that makes everything that narration makes everything else not as easy to be like, oh, it's just similar. You throw that narration on there and you're like, oh, yeah, this is a ripoff. Got it. Got it. Where? Yeah, no, they're they're absolutely that is 100 percent absolutely what they're doing. And
00:07:56
Speaker
Yeah, man, I. It this one was rough that I had a rough go this one. You and I and I think the biggest sin this movie commits is just being. Fucking boring. Yeah, like it's not honestly, it's it's. Competent enough, right? Like the way it's made, the acting is pretty shitty, but at the same time, it's not like
00:08:27
Speaker
like zero budget movie bad. Right. I've seen all of these actors do better work somewhere else. That's true. Uh, that the avatars boy is in that dude. He's in this movie. Remember he was in those commercials too. The guy that's in the avatar movies.
00:08:44
Speaker
Which one, what, huh? Diego's friend, the white guy. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the avatar guy. That is the avatar guy, that really skinny guy. Yeah, OK. Yeah, I saw him and I was like, oh, now this is a prestige picture. But then I was I was wrong. And then I saw Michael Parks and I was like, oh, oh, this is a prestige picture. And then I was wrong. Even Billy Drago, I was like, oh,
00:09:13
Speaker
Let me try to go, okay. He's got that face and he does that thing in some movies. He does it pretty well. Pure hatchet face, yeah. I think he's the only one in this movie that gives a convincing performance, a performance that says, I don't really mind being here, this is fine. There's some juice when he's on the screen. There's some juice there. And he's, I don't know, man.
00:09:41
Speaker
I, however, I don't like the fact that he's playing basic, I mean, he's essentially in brown face for this entire fucking movie. Like I'm not into that, but like he's at least giving some effort. And I mean, based on the characters he's playing, he kind of has to. Yeah. Cause he's the only one playing, I don't know. He's the initial character he plays is old Indian.
00:10:12
Speaker
Uh, at the beginning of the film, and then toward the end of the film, he's playing a Hispanic woman. He's playing that, that gals grandma or something. Is that what was going on? I don't know. I guess shrug. I don't know. This, this movie was, I don't know. It's hard to watch a movie when you're like nodding off during the entire runtime because of how fucking boring it is. This is a movie to where I wasn't,
00:10:42
Speaker
Um, I wasn't like reaching for my phone out of habit. Like I was desperately trying to find something else to do while I was writing this movie. I was like, can I like, do I have laundry to fold? Maybe. Nope. It's still in the dryer. Damn. Um, well, and that's the, that's the mistake I made is I did all of my Chorin before I started this movie. I should have watched this movie while I was doing my Chorin. Right.
00:11:09
Speaker
And then it would have flown by probably a lot better. Just trying to sit and watch this movie. Oh, it's like, it's a hundred times worse than waiting for three hours at the BMV. A hundred times worse. Well, I mean, with that, the BMV, you can like, you know, read a book on your phone or something like it's, it's tough to, when you have to focus in on something and that thing you have to focus in on is incapable of holding your attention.
00:11:37
Speaker
Yeah. That's rough. It's a rough sit, this movie. I mean, the dialogue is fairly wooden. I mean, it's comic book dialogue, but by the same token, you're like, we can... I've seen comic book movies, even in 2007, this is the year before Iron Man, I've still seen comic book movies that have serviceable dialogue. I've seen comic book movies that are well-written. This is not one of those.
00:12:06
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And it's also that era of comic book filmmaking where it's just like, we've got a hero. Like here's a comic book, let's just make it into a movie and who are we going to cast? I don't know somebody. And
Valderrama's Dating History
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so the person that we find is Wilmer Valderrama.
00:12:27
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Who I like. I mean, I have my issues with Wilmer Valderrama as a human being. Oh, I don't know anything about him as a human being. Don't ruin it for me, Stephen. Oh, OK. I feel like I should, because pretty much Topher Grace is the only person in that cast of that 70s show who's not just an awful person. Well, I'm really glad that. Or at least in support of awful people.
00:12:53
Speaker
Well, Danny Masterson's the only one that didn't come back for a cameo in the 90s show. Because he was not invited. In jail. Right. Because he was in jail. But it looks like Topher Grace was the only person in the cast who did not write a letter of support for him. Oh, yeah. Before his sentencing. Yeah. Also, if you look at Wilmer Valderrama's dating history, there's some ugly shit there, too. Wowzers.
00:13:24
Speaker
in terms of his age vis-a-vis the women he's dating. Yeah, well. Just going to throw that out there. And I guess. You said it, not me. I did. I did consenting adults consenting adults.
00:13:48
Speaker
That's the line. That's sad. I have a feeling he's on the wrong side of it. I just. Oh, oh, well, in that case.
00:14:00
Speaker
Look, I say consenting adults because I don't know everybody and I don't experience them in the way they interact with people. And so I don't fucking pretend to understand how some people's relationships work. So consenting adults, as long as you're consenting adults, we're fucking good, dude. We're good. Straight up good. I mean, yeah, I would be inclined to agree with you.
00:14:28
Speaker
Yeah, but looking at, oh God, I just kinda wanna read this section of his dating, or of his Wikipedia page. Wilmer Voldorama met Mandy Moore when she was 15, and they dated when she was 16 or 17. Voldorama, who was four years her senior. Okay, so she was 16, he was 20. Right. Yeah, and I'm not into that. Later claimed that Moore lost her virginity to him, which she denied.
00:14:57
Speaker
fucking gross. In 2004, Valderrama dated Lindsay Lohan, who was 18 at the time he was 24.
00:15:04
Speaker
From 2010 to 2016, he was in an on and off relationship with Demi Lovato. The two met when Lovato was 17 and Valderrama was 29, though they did not begin dating until Lovato turned 18. Lovato would later release the song 29, which was widely interpreted as a condemnation of Valderrama, now that the singer himself was 29, although Lovato did not confirm the inspiration and simply stated, I feel like the song says it all.
00:15:36
Speaker
Yeah, dude. In 2020, Voldorama came and became engaged to Amanda Pacheco, who is 11 years his junior in December 20. Let me see. In 2020, he would have been. He was born in 1980, so in 2020, he would have turned 40. So I guess technically, yes, consenting at all. Oh, yeah, he was an adult until he was 40. You're right. Yeah, gotcha. I still understand like how like that.
00:16:06
Speaker
The way that all went down didn't make sense to me. But I get what you're saying. Yeah, she's 11 years younger. He's 40. So math. Yeah, that's not bad. Twenty nine. Senting adults. Yeah. He's getting better. He's getting better. You know, the age gap is closing slowly. A little too slowly for some. Yeah. Yeah.
00:16:31
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, dude. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, so there you go. That's Wilmer Valderrama's dating history. And the reason I think I have my issues with him as a person. I'll tell you, I don't like I don't like the like it's great that, you know, he was only with people
'El Muerto' and 'Encanto' Coincidence
00:16:52
Speaker
who were adults. But when you know someone before they become an adult and then you get with them, that's a little creepy and weird. That's that's called grooming.
00:17:00
Speaker
Yeah, I don't like that. And I mean, well, I mean, he definitely Mandy Moore was not an adult. Yeah, so there's that, too. Yeah, I mean, yeah, it grows. Anyway, he made this movie and I don't know, has he I don't know much of his acting beyond that 70s show. He's like, I mean, he's he works a lot, but it's not just like
00:17:30
Speaker
Television he's in a few movies here and there like he's in future episode of this podcast beauty shop. Oh, wow. And a barber shop, but I never saw a beauty shop and I'm just.
00:17:47
Speaker
I'm just noticing that right now. He's also, oh, this is a funny thing. Both he and the woman who plays his love interest in this movie, Angie Sepeda, both of them play the parents of the main character in Kanto.
00:18:05
Speaker
which makes me feel like someone at Disney is a fan of this movie and just kind of snuck it because they're like two of the only non-singing characters in the movie. So it feels like someone like snuck in this little like
00:18:19
Speaker
El Muerto reunion or something? I don't think it's because they liked the movie. I think maybe they wanted to tease the two actors, maybe. Remember that time? Remember this turd? Remember this turd you were in? Well, motherfucker, you're in a Disney movie now. Straighten up. Fix it. Yeah.
00:18:44
Speaker
Oh, God. Yeah. So there you go. But yeah, I mean, you're right. He's done a lot of stuff. He's in Party Monster, Beauty Shop, Fast Food Nation, the unfortunately named in his condition, unaccompanied minors. That was a good one. That was a good one, Stephen. Anyway, go ahead. Larry Crown, The Adderall Diaries, and then
00:19:13
Speaker
There's an animated movie called Charming, and he apparently voices Prince Charming. That animation looks awful, by the way. I'm just looking at a picture. And apparently in that movie with Demi Lovato, this would have been well after they would have broken up, I would imagine. But they remained friends. I don't know. They remained coworkers. That at least, yes, I think we can say.
00:19:40
Speaker
pretty safely. Although the way animated films work, they could have filmed it or like recorded it when they were together and then just not like broken up. Like by the time it was out, they were like done. So that's entirely possible. Also deeper efforts. You do it. You don't have the people there. Yeah. It's like one person at a time. They don't have anybody to bounce off of or anything usually. Exactly. And it's not like they're doing rewrites on a thing like that either. So they can film all that dialogue and then, you know,
00:20:10
Speaker
crank out the crappy animation and put it up there. And oftentimes you see, I've noticed and I don't know if I commented on this when we covered Food Fight or not, but there's this tendency of like really like low budget animated features to get like fairly decent talent.
00:20:30
Speaker
And I think it's because you're like, Hey, there, this is this animated movie. It's going to be really great. And they, they come out, they, they film it, whatever. Uh, they do the recording for it. And then oftentimes do not get to see the finished product for the thing. Well, here's the thing about, um, computer animation. Here's, here's how I look at it. Like.
00:20:54
Speaker
Computer animation, the good stuff is really, really good. And the bad stuff is really, really bad. And there's not really much in between, but there's a big financial gap between those two. So if you've got a movie and you only have enough to make it shitty animation, you still probably have enough to pay like a B star for two days of voice work. You know what I mean? Cause you're not, I mean,
00:21:22
Speaker
You're not going to have enough for the good animation. So whatever money you have, shitty animation, the rest goes to like two days in a vocal booth for somebody that people at least recognize. Exactly. And you're not doing multiple takes on that shit either. Like, I don't know. See our stay tuned for a future episode on Barnyard, the original party animals. I guess I never saw that, but I always wanted to because people like people thought it was really funny. I don't know.
00:21:47
Speaker
I mean, it's a Steve Odenkirk film or Steve Odenkirk film. So, you know, do without what you will.
Steve Oedekerk and Industry Insights
00:21:54
Speaker
It might be rad. It might be bad. It could be both, honestly. Or maybe sad. I don't know. You're a dad. Are you a Steve Odenkirk fan? Oh, maybe. The Thumb Wars guy. Oh, no, fuck off. Kung Pal Enter the Fist.
00:22:13
Speaker
Uh, I mean, I get that. I get it. It's like, it's really hard to make a bad movie on purpose. And I think that Kung Pao does it better than most, but not as good as the best. Not nearly as good as the best. Yeah. I mean, I remember really liking, um, Kung Pao when I first saw it. It's fun. It is, it is. And I'm sure.
00:22:43
Speaker
I was going to say, if this sequel that's allegedly in development never comes to fruition, then I'm sure we'll cover Kung Pao. Of course, that was like back in 2015 is the last time they announced that sequel. But he's the guy, he's the brain behind Barnyard, basically, is that guy.
00:23:05
Speaker
Kung Pao would have worked for me as an adult swim show because I think that movie is really, really funny, but it the joke gets old really fucking quick. But if you get it, give it to me in little 15 minute increments once or twice a week, I'm way into that way into that. But now we have our 45 of just that joke. It's like, nah, no.
00:23:28
Speaker
Sorry. It kind of fits in that like what's up Tiger Lily and Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid kind of vein where you're you're just editing the guy into the footage and it's kind of funny just on that basis alone. Or even speaking of Adult Swim, something like Sea Lab 2020. Yes. Where they took the old footage and recorded new ADR and made it a completely different show. Right. Like amped up the absurdity to 11 and just let it go.
00:23:58
Speaker
Uh, Steve O'Kirk also directed, um, Ace Ventura when nature calls. The lesson of the Ace Ventura's. And the Martin Short, uh, Tim Robbins comedy, nothing to lose.
00:24:13
Speaker
Did you say Martin Short? No, I did. Martin Lawrence. I'm sorry. I was looking right in his picture, but he's short. He's shorter than Tim Robbins on the poster. I'm looking at the poster and I'm just like, Martin, he's short. Martin short. I and I look, I just woke up from a nap. I'm very tired. That movie is very, very funny. And it has the gal who plays the main character in the Coen Brothers, Lady Killer. She's in it. You love that movie.
00:24:41
Speaker
And I love that lady actor too. She's fantastic and she gets to smack people around in this movie, too That's like kind of her thing. She's a sweet old lady But if you give her some shit, she can smack you around a bit. She smacks mama rain wanes around a bit Or my pee haul killers. Yeah, she's great It was weird because you know how sometimes two movies that are very similar will come out at the same time you had a
00:25:08
Speaker
Uh, nothing to lose, which was the Tim Robbins and Martin Short. And then you had the, you did it too. You just did it to me. You made me do it. Martin Lawrence. Uh, and then you had a money talks with Charlie Sheen and Chris Tucker. Yeah. And I loved both of those movies. So I think, uh, I think the Tim Robbins and Martin Lawrence one is better.
00:25:32
Speaker
directed by Steve Oderkirk, the man who gave us Kung Pao and
00:25:40
Speaker
what was the other barnyard, the original party animals, which is how we got on this topic to begin with. I love that we're able to incorporate a Steve Oda Kirk deep dive into our discussion of the dead one, mainly because I don't know what else we can talk about with this movie. Like we're not even a half hour into this movie, into this episode yet. And I am concerned for the future of this episode. Well, Steven, we haven't talked yet about our histories with this movie.
00:26:06
Speaker
Oh, you're right, Tucker. We haven't. What's your history with El Muerto? Well, Steven, it was just a couple weeks ago when you mentioned to me that you wanted to do this movie for the podcast. And I was like, that looks awful, whatever. And then today I watched it and it sucked.
00:26:30
Speaker
You? Yeah. Honestly, not too dissimilar, really. I was looking at, just for my own edification, a list of comic book films that had been made during that glut of the early 2000s, where we got a shit ton of these things. And I stumbled on this movie, which I had never heard of. And it was like, Wilmer Valderam was a superhero. That sounds abysmal.
00:26:57
Speaker
And then I realized it was like reading the premise. I'm like, oh, this is just a rip off of the crow. I was just looking for something that we could slate in to discuss when the crow reboot comes out. So why not? Sometimes it works really well. And then sometimes it seems like it works really well. And what you get is the dead one.
00:27:20
Speaker
Hey, you know what there is to talk about this also, is how there's apparently two different versions. Here's the thing, there is no information about this movie or its source material on the internet, like at all. And I've looked.
00:27:37
Speaker
But one thing that we just kind of stumbled bassacwards into is this notion that there are two versions of this film. Tucker, I'll let you take it from here. This is your story. This is a disenfranchised exclusive. You're here here first, and you'll probably never hear about it again, because nobody gives a shit. An exclusive only insofar as we're the only ones who've covered this thing. And there's no other information about it out there at all.
00:28:06
Speaker
So I decided because I didn't want to watch commercials, I would watch it on prime. And I started it out and it was in Spanish.
00:28:16
Speaker
Cabueno, which was like that makes sense because, you know, it's like it's kind of a Spanish movie sort of, you know, not Spanish like Spain, but like Mexican South America, that kind of Spanish. Sure, sure. I'm sure there's a better word for that. But there is undoubtedly, you know what I mean? You know what I mean? You know, that kind of assumption, but OK. Yeah. Yeah. But anyway, so the language of the film was Spanish and during the opening crawl,
00:28:46
Speaker
Uh, that was narrated by a man in Spanish. Um, I got the crawl itself still in English. Yes. Okay. Yes. But it was narrated in Spanish. Now, um, I couldn't really tell if the dialogue matched the people's lips because I only got as far as to right before, uh,
00:29:25
Speaker
That just like that, it was over. There was so much dialogue. I was trying to pay attention to it, though, but the subtitles, the English subtitles to the Spanish dub of this movie are about 30 seconds ahead of the film itself. Oh, no. So it's hard to like watch the movie and read what they're saying and make those two things make sense together because they're so far apart. There's such a huge audio gap.
00:29:43
Speaker
Oh, interesting
00:29:54
Speaker
Uh, and so I switched over to the to be version and it was in English.
Streaming Ad Breaks vs Traditional TV
00:30:00
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Cause I asked Steven in the chat, I was like, Hey, are the subtitles okay on the version you watched? Thinking that his version was in Spanish too, not knowing that this heathen watches subtitles on movies that he doesn't have to watch them on. I wouldn't, if, if people, uh, knew how to mix sound anymore, but they don't. So I watch subtitles with fucking everything. Uh, also what you might
00:30:23
Speaker
do is make sure that your sound settings are set to stereo and not surround or virtual surround. That helps a lot with that, too, unless you have surround sound and then no, but you're right. They do be mixing them shitty, but not as shitty as you think, if your settings are not correct. That's what I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. It's not bad. It's not bad.
00:30:49
Speaker
No, I had the subtitles on for a bit on the English version, but then I decided I didn't care. And the subtitles, I had to read them and I didn't want to have to read them. So I turned the subtitles off. Fair enough. Yeah. Yeah. And you watched it with commercials. I watched it. There weren't a lot of commercials. To be fair, Prime has commercials too, but which kind of made me mad when that happened, because one day they were just like, hey, guys, commercials now you can pay us more if you don't want them. Peace.
00:31:19
Speaker
Oh, like on their primary service, they have the? Yes, yes. Oh, that flows. Because I really had freebie, which was like their like service for like. Yeah, it has a lot of commercials. Prime has a few commercials. And like, like less than to be, but still like why the fuck? But what is cool is a lot like Peacock.
00:31:46
Speaker
And Paramount Plus, both of which I do not have the ad supported versions of anymore, but I once did. And what they do, if it's a TV show, you have like maybe 60 seconds of ads during commercial break time. Uh, if it's a movie, you watch, uh, like two minutes of ads at the beginning and then there's no interruptions, which I prefer, which I can get into honestly. And honestly, like when I'm watching TV shows and stuff, I don't mind the ads.
00:32:16
Speaker
Because I remember back when you watch TV over on network TV or cable TV, like you'd have a good, a good five minutes of ads. Oh yeah. That's, that's why your comes right. 20 minutes because you got two five minute ad blocks nowadays, most, but even to be it's like 60 seconds.
00:32:38
Speaker
And people bitch and like, you've never had it so good, motherfucker. People do be bitching though. There was one outbreak that was at least a good 90 seconds, which again, compared to what we had, like, luxury.
00:32:52
Speaker
actually I sometimes I yearn for the longer ad breaks because I'm like can I fit a piss in right now no you can't can I go get a snack or should I wait till it's come back from the ad break and I can pause it and go do right you have to pause in the middle of ad break to do the shit you do and then come back to the ad break give me more ads so I can pee
00:33:13
Speaker
This is all we're asking for. Right. This is all we want. You know, an excuse to, you know, run to the fridge, pick up, you know, a snack or something. Macaroni salad. Who knows? Who fucking knows? Maybe a boiled egg. Or two. Or two.
00:33:32
Speaker
Maybe two. If you're the kind of person that just keeps boiled eggs in your fridge. It's a superfood. Eggs and spinach, that's all you need. That's uh, apparently that's Tucker's diet and do not let me stand downwind of you, sir. Eggs and spinach and bananas. Oh god, yeah, do not let me stand downwind of you. Holy shit, that sounds awful. I like broccoli too. Which is just as bad, if not worse.
00:33:58
Speaker
You know what though, based on this, this line of foods that I like that, that make people particularly gassy, I'm not too fond of beans. Interesting. I like some beans, but not many. Which for a vegetarian golly. Yeah, that's tough. That's rough. That was real tough, man.
00:34:17
Speaker
If you're not a bean man, gotta be a potato man. I'm a potato man. I like potatoes. Of course. I don't, I don't have a problem with beans. I used to make dry beans constantly. I've kind of gotten out of the habit. Probably should get back into it. Probably. You know, for health, but yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um, yeah, man. I don't know.
00:34:44
Speaker
I'm just adding this line of thinking to the show notes. Oh, cool. Is that how you do that? Yeah. When I forget, I just don't really show notes. I just don't do them at all. At all. Like, at all, at all. I mean, the numbers don't suffer, but. No. But I do be included in the socials, though. And which I do appreciate. Yeah, dude.
00:35:14
Speaker
Yeah, dude, dude. Yeah, we will have some show notes this week, though. Give it because we talk to it. We've already talked about Steve Oderkirk and we've talked about ads on TV. We'd be talking about shit today. And you know what? If you're listening to this and you haven't read the show notes yet, go read them right now.
00:35:38
Speaker
because I, you know, do put some effort into them. I won't say that it's a lot, but, you know, when he do them, when he do them, though, when he do them, though, they are good when he do. Correct.
00:35:54
Speaker
which is more than I can say for myself. My show notes suck. But luckily, I haven't had to do any for a while because I haven't released any. What are we watching? To the really long time. Yeah, we still got how many episodes like backlog to that show.
00:36:10
Speaker
two or three and my list is so huge that we're gonna have to do like a big like barn buster like a five-parter or something yeah I've been to the theater twice since the last what are we watching and there's so there's so much good stuff I want to talk about too same golly golly like this is I saw a film in the theaters like yesterday that I would love to be able to talk about with you I talk with you about the atres and the atres as well I've come across I've been through
TV Consumption Habits
00:36:39
Speaker
for lunchtime shows since our last one. And that's one episode per day. If that sometimes like I have to do other things while meeting lunch. But that's I don't watch more than one episode. That's why it's my lunchtime show, not my lunchtime and then a little bit afterwards show. Sure, sure. 30 minutes. 30 minutes. Yeah. I mean, yeah, dude, I finished whole seasons. Yeah.
00:37:09
Speaker
I believe it. Seasons of television. I mean, remember when we used to like, you know, squeeze, squeeze, what are we watching recording in right before the main episode? Because it would only take us like 45 minutes. Yes. And I can't wait to get back to that after the first week of October. But the way it is now, you motherfuckers are lucky this even comes out on a weekly basis. This is very true.
00:37:36
Speaker
The way the way you're listening to this right now, you are blessed. The way life been going. Oh, boy. Well, and it's, you know, I'm the guy who does all the stuff, most of the stuff. I'm going to say all of it, but I do a lot of the the back end stuff. And so and I'm the bit I'm so busy, like between mid June and mid September. Yeah, your cats got right. Do you hear that? Yeah, exactly. I'm that busy.
00:38:05
Speaker
Yeah, he's like, damn, is what he said. He couldn't believe how busy I was. Damn, Tucker, you busy. Yeah, he's he's apparently very hungry in this moment, so. Oh, damn. Well, because you never feed it. You've never once fed him. How? Why would I? Exactly. Of course. Yeah. No, constantly. He has never once since I've lived in this residence fed me.
00:38:33
Speaker
Meow? I mean, it's not like he's really paying attention. He's he's his eyes on his eyes on the prize, basically. So I don't think he's really paying attention to who's feeding him as long as he's getting fed. Meow. But yeah, that is how he do.
00:38:52
Speaker
Hey, Hayden. Hey, Tucker. Do you think that we should do the plot in 60 seconds? We're 40 minutes into this episode now is as good a time as any. Let me let me one more thing to get out of the way so that we can wrap this sucker up. I mean, we're kind of there. I do want to talk about some of the supporting cast, but oh, yeah, for sure. Yeah. So this is the plot in 60 seconds. This is a part of the show where we your intrepid hosts recount the plot of the film that we're watching. In this case,
00:39:22
Speaker
2007's El Muerto in 60 seconds or less at the behest of the Coin of Justice. Got Lady Liberty on one side. You got the Gibraltar Shield on the other. That's Tails. I'm gonna flip it in the air. Tucker, you're gonna call it, so call it. Heads. Please. It is heads, you motherfucker. No, no, that means I get to choose who does it. That's never how this has worked.
00:39:52
Speaker
And I choose me. You sure? I can't do it, Steven. The coin of justice has mandated otherwise. All right. Well, I'll tell you what the joke was going to be. You were going to tell me I had 60 seconds and I was just going to go for 60 seconds pausing for the 30 and 10 second warnings.
00:40:16
Speaker
And then at the end, I was gonna say as the great Jeff Goldblum once said, that's, well, there it is. Well, there it is. There it is. Yeah, I mean, probably as good as this film does. Go ahead and put 60 seconds on the clock for me if you would.
00:40:37
Speaker
Feel free to steal my idea and I'll edit out my explanation of it if you like. I'm not gonna do that. I have too much respect for the integrity of this institution. And frankly, for the coin of justice. Yeah, well. Yeah, well. I'm the coin of justice's father, so I fathered it. All right, you let me know when my time is ready. I'm ready when you're ready. Okay, so I'll just go. It's beginning when you talk, yeah.
00:41:07
Speaker
No, I'm just kidding. A kid trying to cross the border from Mexico into California gets like, I don't know, he finds an old Indian dude, apparently old Native American, who like cuts his hand and like tries to do weird shit with him until he escapes and runs away. And then he grows up to be wilder, wilder, wilderama with a weird tattoo, who's like obsessed with Aztec culture.
00:41:33
Speaker
And he's friends with the weird dude from Avatar who's like a comparative religion major who's the guy who's with our exposition machine for this entire movie just Explaining all the Aztec shit Anyway, he dies and gets power somehow and comes back a year later to take vengeance on the people that like the family that killed the Aztecs and drove them out of or like wipe them all out and
00:41:57
Speaker
And then he decides that love is more important than vengeance. And so he fights the old Indian who's really the grandmother for some reason. I don't fucking understand it. But yeah, I don't know. And then he wins and they decide to love and that's it. I don't know, whatever. That's your time. I was really impressed. I was really impressed with how Avatar dude
00:42:19
Speaker
Like, I didn't believe that he knew any of that stuff. It's almost like his character was like, hey, hey, the script girl just told me. And then. It's really. I didn't buy it. I didn't buy it. No, not at all. Like, and but here's the thing, like, when he gets he's basically doing the same thing here that he will do two years later in Avatar.
00:42:43
Speaker
him. Except when he's doing it in Avatar, he's believable. So in those two years, he something happens and he basically becomes a lot better at delivering that kind of like mumbo jump. Maybe it's just when it's religious mumbo jumbo because maybe he's not a religious person so he doesn't buy it. I think that it's the writing in a movie like Avatar, even though I don't like Avatar, someone like James Cameron is going to
00:43:11
Speaker
He's going to do things that you would do in a B-movie like this, but he's gonna hide them. He's gonna hide them and he's gonna make them look so good and work so well that you're not gonna recognize that it's a shitty B-movie trope. He's functioning at a higher level. Cameron's able to... Because he gets his start in the Corman school, like so many of the guys from his generation. Like... See last week's episode, Predators, a Corman movie if I ever saw one. Right.
00:43:38
Speaker
Um, like it's, it's got that vibe, but like this one. Yeah. I don't know. Like this feels like a Corman movie without the soul. Yeah. Like it's got all the trappings and I. It's like an asylum movie or a sci-fi original. There it is. That's, that's very astute.
00:44:01
Speaker
I love all the below the line guys on this movie. I love Tony Amandola, who most people probably know best from the Conjuring films. He's the priest in the Annabelle movies. He's the priest in this too, isn't he? He is, yeah. He's the one that dies first, right? Correct, yeah.
00:44:22
Speaker
And then you've got Tony Plana, who I fucking love. Tony Plana's such a steady hand. When he shows up, Cuban actor, whenever he shows up, I'm just like, all right, I'm in good hands. Tony Plana's here. Somebody's steering the ship. We're good. Exactly. And he's just one of those that guy actors who's done a little bit of everything. And I think most people probably know him best, at least most people of our generation, probably know him best as
00:44:51
Speaker
Hefei in The Three Amigos. Oh, yeah. Oh, yes. You have a plethora. Hefei, what is a plethora? Yeah. Yeah. You know, I'd watch him. I'd watch a movie about the making of that movie. Yeah. Speaking of, there's something very similar coming out, and maybe if they make a sequel to it, it can be the making of Three Amigos.
00:45:19
Speaker
Uh, there's a new Saturday Night Live movie coming out, not a movie based on a sketch, but a biopic about, uh, the first season of the show and how it all came to
Excitement for SNL Movie
00:45:28
Speaker
be. And I saw the trailer and I'm really psyched. I'm really psyched for it. Cousin Greg is playing both Andy Kaufman and Jim Henson. I'm into it. And that, you know what? I did notice there was one, uh, somebody I think is playing, uh, Carol Spinney.
00:45:48
Speaker
in the trailer and I was like, is that guy supposed to be Carol Spinney because or Spiny? How do you say his name? The guy who plays Big Bird? I'm pretty sure it's Spinney. I could be wrong. And I was kind of wondering with that line if they were going to have the Muppets in this, because as anyone who is familiar with the early seasons of Saturday Night Live, whereas it was just called then NBC's Saturday Night, the Muppets were a part of that, not
00:46:12
Speaker
Kermit and Miss Piggy or anybody else, like specific SNL, they had SNL Muppets. Yeah. They're in like a little segment. I think they are going to at least put that part into it. Like it's got, like I said, Nicholas Braun, aka Cousin Greg from Succession is playing Jim Henson. And I think that one of the stills that they released had a King Pluvus puppet.
00:46:37
Speaker
from the Land of Gorge set. So like, I think they're at least gonna reference, it's kind of hard not to reference that when it comes to SNL in those early seasons, because that was like one of the most contentious parts of the show early on. Is, I mean, was it Dick or someone famously like screamed, I don't write for felt.
00:47:02
Speaker
And like everyone kind of hated that they were there because they had to like give up screen. It was Michael O'Donohue who said that. And then they had to like give up their screen time for the Muppets basically. And they fucking hated it. They called them the Mucking Fuppets. I learned a lot of that from the Brian J. Jones biography of Jim Henson, which is a fascinating fucking read. I highly recommend it to everybody. Check it out. Can I borrow it? Yeah, sure.
00:47:32
Speaker
I'll let you borrow the Brian Wilson autobiography. OK. I don't know what I'm going to read that, but OK. I'm just saying a trade, you know, so that you have a little collateral. Yeah. So I really hope they didn't do it for the 40th anniversary special, but I hope for the 50th anniversary special, we get a couple Muppets. That would be nice. That would be nice. That would make me I was really surprised that we didn't see any Muppets in now that they're owned by Disney. I don't know that we will not those Muppets.
00:48:02
Speaker
Look, there are there are different muppets that belong to different people. I know your your children's workshop muppets for Sesame Street. Disney doesn't know those hell. HBO doesn't even own those. HBO has the rights to to air.
00:48:17
Speaker
their episodes of Sesame Street, but they still it's still children's workshop. I understand. I feel like by design like Henson protected Sesame Street because Disney bought the Muppets because they wanted Sesame Street. That was why Disney actually bought the Muppets. You know what? Speaking of fuck Disney, you hear about this bullshit, how somebody straight up died in their theme park. Sure. And instead of just being human beings about it and paying that poor man's family
00:48:45
Speaker
They're trying to get off on a technicality on some sort of terms of agreement on a Disney Plus subscription he had. What kind of fucked up bullshit is that, Steven? Is that kind of what we live in? That he didn't even have any more. It was like a trial he signed up for. How are you that low? How are you so subhuman that that's how you think that that should go?
00:49:15
Speaker
There's no amount of money, Steven. There's no amount of money that if I were a lawyer, Disney, there's no amount of money where they'd be like, this is this is what happened. This is what we want to do. I'd be like, fuck you. Fuck you. Pay that man. And that is the correct response. Fuck that. Now I don't know what to do because I just want to boycott Disney, but like everything's fucking Disney. Yeah, everything is Disney. Yeah, man. All the things it fucking sucks.
00:49:45
Speaker
Oh, that made me so mad. I had to like go into my news preferences and be like, don't show me any more updates on this story, because it's just gonna make me mad. Mm hmm. Man, fuck Disney. Yeah. I do love them Muppets though. Of course.
00:50:06
Speaker
I hope they show up in the 50th. I hope they show up in the 50th. I have my doubts, but we can help. I would love to like I want someone on YouTube to like pull all the land of gorge sketches from from like peacock or something and put them all on like one big like supercut of the land of gorge. I think that would be a lot of fun. I think.
00:50:31
Speaker
I would, I think NBC has to own that then. There's no way Disney would own those characters if they owned Saturday Night Live. Here's the thing, when according to this, according to the biography of Jim Henson by Brian J Jones, which again, I really fucking recommend. It's such an incredible book. So it was kind of one of those things where Lorne Michaels knew he had to get rid of Jim Henson.
00:50:58
Speaker
And Henson really wanted to get the fuck out of SNL, but neither of them wanted to be the one to pull the trigger. So when Henson got the Muppet Show, it kind of helped them both save face.
00:51:14
Speaker
So Henson was able to, like, piece the fuck out and Michaels was able to be like, oh, well, you know, you've got this thing. That's fine. You can you can go ahead and do that. That's yeah. Of course, Jim, of course. Whatever you got to do. And basically, I think he gave like the characters and everything just to Henson. He's like, this is your shit. You own this. We don't want it. Like, just go, which might be why it doesn't show up in those SNL like
00:51:43
Speaker
history things because they're owned by the Henson Corporation.
00:51:49
Speaker
And it was so, they were on so, it was like two seasons, if two, maybe just one season. I think it was, I think it might've just been the first one. I could be wrong on that, but yeah, I think it might've just been the first one. And as much as snobby people want to just like kiss the first couple of seasons as ass, like those are nobody's favorite seasons. Like they're great and there's some great stuff, but that's a show that didn't even know what the fuck it was yet.
00:52:17
Speaker
Correct. And those sketches go on like a little too long. Like in those early days, they're just not the show's not as tight. It's not as like. It's not firing on all cylinders yet in those first couple of seasons. I think they really figured out how to do Saturday Night Live probably around the late 80s. That's when they finally figured out how to actually do it.
00:52:41
Speaker
They're like, okay, oh, yep, okay, now we've learned all this stuff and now we know how to do this absolutely right. All right, I'm showing that at least in the first episode of season two, the Muppets are there. I'm scrolling down toward the end of season two here just to see if they're still there at the end of season two. And I'm no longer seeing Jerry Nelson
00:53:07
Speaker
and crew credited. So I think by that point, they're off. So it's probably sometime early season two, they ended up leaving. But do you think that and maybe your book that you're talking about has some insight on this, but do you think that The Muppet Show could have been partially inspired by working on SNL since they were the show within the show was a similar kind of a variety sketch comedy sort of thing?
00:53:30
Speaker
I know I think that's Henson's love for like old vaudeville and shit coming through because again those are you see a lot of those influences from like even the early Looney Tunes shit like there's a lot of that kind of vaudeville sensibility and Henson really dug that so I think there's a lot of that coming out there but also like I think that initially came about as a framing device for his
00:53:57
Speaker
uh, conceit for the show. And then it just kind of became the thing. Like, because I don't think the original Muppet pilot sex and violence had that framing device in it. It had a host, but I think all the, the, the addition of all the backstage stuff, I think that might've come about later and, and could have at least in part been inspired by SNL, but the book does not give them the credit for
Vaudeville, SNL, and 'The Muppet Show'
00:54:22
Speaker
that. I see. And now that I think about it, the Muppet show,
00:54:26
Speaker
The show within the show that is the actual show is more of a variety show. Yeah. More of like Sonny and Cher show and that kind of stuff where you'd have some sketches and we'd sing a few songs and then we'd interview our guests, you know, like more like what what late night TV was maybe five years ago or so.
00:54:51
Speaker
Yeah, a lot of sketches as much as they I miss the sketches. I do like it when on Seth Meyers, when they do the the cut for time, SNL sketches that never got to air. Right. I like the yeah, the old Merv Griffin kind of thing. Mm hmm. Yeah. Not not not the Smothers Brothers. Am I talking about Smothers Brothers? You might be thinking about the Smothers Brothers. Did they have a show? Yeah.
00:55:17
Speaker
OK, well, then maybe that's what I'm thinking of a little bit. Yeah, all in there, maybe. Sure, sure. With the exception of he haul, all of that's before my time. But yeah, I mean, you know, we sometimes we do some picking, sometimes we do some grinning and sometimes we do both at the same time. Yeah, dude, horse apples. Mini Pearl and that hat that she just bought. Yeah, dude.
00:55:45
Speaker
Oh, yeah, dude. Yeah. So, yeah, El Muerto. That's a movie we watched. I thought we were talking about the Muppets. We were for a little bit. No, no, we were talking about Saturday Night Live. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. I really want to see that movie. Have you seen the trailer yet? I have. I thought it was I.
00:56:06
Speaker
I mean, it looks OK, but I think it does. It looks OK. The thing that gives me the most pause is that it's Jason Reitman. And I'm not a huge, huge fan of his stuff of late, but he can. You know, he can do it, though, if he tries. You've seen you for not smoking. Like, come on. Thank you for smoking. Yeah, same thing. Like, and I like I've liked some of his earlier stuff, but these days, you know, like he's just cashing in on his family name and I'm not about that.
00:56:35
Speaker
I don't know. I think this movie's different. I hope so. I hope we can get some of that old old Jason Reitman hunger back in the day. I don't know. I think I think now that he's directed, you know, his his big blockbuster, he's he's kind of sitting pretty. Oh, we're doing a biopic, though. Why would he even do it like?
00:56:54
Speaker
You know, he's not getting paid as much to do that as he would for like a Ghostbusters. It's got to be a passion project. Sure. He knows a lot of those dudes that it's based on, too. Well, I grew up like with all those dudes being like uncles and shit. It got to the point where like so he. His career kind of not going great. Like, let me let he does. Now, are you saying he's full of crap? No, my dad says you're full of crap.
00:57:26
Speaker
Because that's Jason Reitman. I know from Ghostbusters 2. He plays that kid in Ghostbusters 2. Your favorite of the Ghostbusters movies. Some people do have trouble believing in the paranormal. No, he just says you're full of crap.
00:57:38
Speaker
In 2005, he does Thank You for Smoking, and then he does Juno in 2007, up in the air in 2009, young adult in 2011. He's still on fairly good footing for me here. And then it's after this that he loses me. Labor Day in 2013, I don't even know what the fuck that is. And then Men, Women, and Children the next year in 2014.
00:58:03
Speaker
He directs an episode of Roast Battle. I don't know what that is either. I can guess what it's about based on the title. I've just never heard of it. Yeah. Six episodes of something called Casual. Then he comes back and does Tully in 2018 and The Front Runner in 2018.
00:58:25
Speaker
I never thought when I know what Tully is, but I've never seen either of those movies. The Front Runner is the movie about Gary Hart, the senator who like gets is gets caught having an affair. He's running for president and he gets caught having an affair. And so it basically like ruins his campaign. Right. Yeah. And Hugh Jackman plays plays Gary Hart. Huge Ackman. Yep. That guy.
00:58:51
Speaker
Not a small Ackman. Nope. And after that, like his career is pretty much dead after the front after that one, two punch of people liked Tully, but the front runner like was received like a wet fart. And so after that, his crew is dead. So he's like, well, what do I do?
00:59:09
Speaker
I do the thing my dad is best known for, I do the ghost bust, the thing that people have literally been clamoring for for decades, I do ghost busters. And it's hugely successful and now he's like, well, now I can do my own weird shit again. But he's still not going back and doing his weird shit because now he's still capitalizing on like,
00:59:29
Speaker
the people that his dad hung out with and and all of that shit that he grew up on, like he's still capitalizing on all that shit. And it's still it still feels kind of craven to me. I'm just that. That's me. Jason Reitman gets a pass for whatever the that Ghostbusters movie was called. Not the most recent one, but the one before that afterlife. There you go. He gets a pass on me for me on that movie because two things.
00:59:59
Speaker
Because one, that was supposed to be his dad's movie, but you know, homeboy straight up couldn't do it, you know, and then he died and all that. And that's sad. So like, yes, please, Jason Reitman direct this movie. It makes sense that you would do that. And I completely support it. And it's not a poorly made film. I think a lot of the stuff that I don't like about it, I have to imagine is probably studio mandated.
01:00:26
Speaker
It seems like it would be in the days of studios like, just do the thing from the other movies. Just do that because we tried to do different stuff and nobody liked it, so do the exact same thing. I can't imagine Jason Reitman went into that being like, okay, we're going to put as much fan service as possible into this and as many callbacks to the original as I possibly can. He's the person who went up publicly and said, we're giving this back to the fans.
01:00:54
Speaker
So, but I have to imagine a lot of that was studio mandated though. No, I, I have a feeling that's not CNC. You're my read on that as a complete opposite, which is probably why I'm less. I'm less likely to give him a pass for that, but that's me. It's really a good thing. Brett's not here because Brett would be so pissed at us both right now. No, dude. No, dude. No.
01:01:18
Speaker
But yeah, but also nah. Yeah, nah, Brett would be so pissed right now. Would you think that the most recent Ghostbusters there, Steven? Never saw it. Really? I heard it was better than Afterlife, but I never saw it. It's really fun. I like it better because there's not as many references to the original films. And instead, like a good sequel should, there are references to the previous film.
01:01:51
Speaker
But not a lot, and they don't beach over the head with it as much as afterlife. I still have a lot of issues with Frozen Empire, but overall, it was a fun ride. And I still have yet to see a Ghostbusters movie that does not feel like a Ghostbusters movie. I think my least favorite was probably Afterlife.
01:02:15
Speaker
of all Ghostbusters movie same but every single one of them still feels like a Ghostbusters movie so I'm okay with it once if they ever lose that feeling I'm out even the girl remake it felt like a Ghostbusters movie that's why I've always kind of championed it
01:02:31
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, I certainly like it more than more than Brett does. But Brett seemed to come down on the it's fine camp the last time we discussed it. So the thing with the most recent two is I like I like the bones of the most recent two movies. It's just the skin of it, the all the fucking forced fan service down my throat. Like I already saw that movie. Give me something subtle but new, something new that is a subtle reference.
01:03:00
Speaker
that I will get because I'm a fan. Don't like I don't need you to beat me over the head with like a turkey leg of fan service.
01:03:07
Speaker
I mean, that's the Marvel method. Like, that's just how we make movies now is by referencing other shit. Like, oh, you think this is good. Get excited for the next one, because in the next one, like, that's just how movies are made. And oh, look at all this shit. We snuck into the background like more. I think Reitman said there were like more Easter eggs, like in Egon's house per capita than the rest of the movie combined. And you know, he had control over that. You know, that shit's not studio mandated.
01:03:33
Speaker
I suppose you're right. He's the director. He's the one that decided to give the fucking proton pack a fucking hero shot. So. Yeah, well. I still think with you can't tell me that shit is studio mandated, you can't. No, I'm I've just I've just conceded and said that I agree with you and I would like to move on to say that.
01:03:55
Speaker
I think that the type of film that this new SNL movie is shaping up to be seems more like something that he excels at that I will appreciate. Whereas like those last well, and he didn't even direct the most recent Ghostbusters movie, but he had a big hand in it. He was produced. He was a producer. I assume he was a fairly hands on producer.
01:04:20
Speaker
Afterlife was not a poorly made film by any stretch of the imagination. It was a well made film. Like the script was not always great. And I really felt overwhelmed by the fan service, but like the bones of that movie, it's, it's fine. Like it is a competent film, like more than competent.
01:04:39
Speaker
So I think that he has it in him. And I think with a smaller, more intimate thing like this film, I think we're going to see a return to form from his earlier work, which is why I'm so excited about this movie.
SNL Cast Preferences
01:04:50
Speaker
Not just because it's the subject of it is a show that I have always watched and will always watch. It's so deeply ingrained into me. It's like a part of me. Six months out of the year. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
01:05:09
Speaker
So El Muerto, though. So who's your cast? Have we already had this conversation? No, we have cast even. Who's your cast? I dig that. I dig that late 80s run with Hartman and Farley. And that's a good that's good. Yeah, that's that's my cast. I I used to know who my cast was. And my cast was early to late 2000s. You got your Fred Armistons, your Bill Haters, your Will Fortes. You got your Lonely Islands. You got your Kristen Wiggs.
01:05:38
Speaker
your Maya Rudolphs, your Amy Pollers, your Tina Fey's. Yeah. Your Jimmy Fallon's. I think that's my cast, but not by a lot because there's so many that came before that and after that that I also like almost just as much, but that era specifically just barely eeks out the rest of them for me.
01:06:02
Speaker
Chris Catanz, you got your Chris Catanz and your Will Ferrells and a little bit of it, you know? There's the crossover. There's some crossover at the beginning and the end. You got your Kyle Mooney's in there at some point. The late 90s, early aughts with like Ferrell and Shannon and Oteri and Catan. That's like one of my least favorite eras. I've gone back and revisited some of those and I just don't get it.
01:06:25
Speaker
I also, I think my second fave would probably, probably be the most recent cast before this one. Uh, where you had your Cecily Strongs and your Kate McKinnon's and your Melissa Villasinhores and your Kyle Mooneys and your Jay Fairhose and your Seshir Zametas, hometown girl, BT doves.
01:06:48
Speaker
Yeah, I really liked that cast, too. And I think when when Cecily and Caitlin and Kyle Mooney finally left, that sort of marked the end of that era. And now we're kind of into there's of course, there's always crossover, but I feel like we're really into that into this new era proper. And it's got a bit of a rocky start, but I'm I'm still digging. I'm never going to stop watching it. I support all of these people. I want them to have great careers and stuff. I like SNL because it means a lot of things to a lot of people.
01:07:17
Speaker
And it's a really cool and unique sort of thing. And Elmerto fucking sucks. Yeah, Elmerto, not a good movie. We didn't care for it, but if you did, let us know. Yeah, that's awesome. And because look, I mean, there is.
01:07:34
Speaker
There's an attempt. That's the thing I will say about, and it's the reason why I can't just throw the baby out with the bathwater on it. There's an attempt, and I think it's mostly in the parts that they're adapting from the comic book, to do something fairly interesting and representational for that culture. And I absolutely respect that, and I love the idea of a...
01:08:02
Speaker
Latinx superhero in that vein. Like it was the original concept from what I understand was to do like basically the Latino JLA was kind of the original conceit. And then he kind of went all in with Elmore. I think he was going to create his own like world of different characters.
01:08:23
Speaker
Oh, they hadn't made the characters yet is what you're telling me. Right. And then just really dug El Muerto and just decided to put all his chips in that basket. So he went kind of all in on El Muerto. And so he didn't build out the rest of the world like he had initially planned. The creator, by the way, plays the guy in the cemetery dressed as a skeleton that Wilmer Valderrama meets and points him in the direction of the of the winning altar, which is, of course, the altar with his face on it. That's the guy.
01:08:53
Speaker
And Day of the Dead has always been kind of a holiday that fascinates me to no end. Like, I think it's a really cool holiday. And I wish this movie got into it a little more. And my favorite Romero film.
01:09:08
Speaker
Yes, it's true. You do love that one. How much time we got for tangents, Steven? I don't know. I was going to talk about the Children's Museum and how we I don't know if you remember the Children's Museum. They used to have like those giant skeleton like Day of the Dead skeleton statues like up in the. You remember those? Like I was fascinated by those as a kid. Those were rad. I always I remember in school we would make the sugar skulls. Oh, right on.
01:09:36
Speaker
And that was really fun. Something I got recently, Steven, because they finally repressed it and I could afford it is the Day of the Dead score on vinyl. And the reason I bring this to you is because since podcasting is such a visual medium, I wanted to show you the prettiest record that I've ever seen. And don't, don't get it twisted. I don't give a fuck what a record looks like. As long as it plays and sounds good, we're good. Like.
01:10:03
Speaker
records that are different colors and stuff and different designs, that's just added bonus. But this is the prettiest record I've ever seen in my life. It's somehow colored and transparent. Yeah, it's got what looks like blood spatter on it. Yeah, it looks like bloody puke. Yeah. But like in a really pretty way. Like in an artistic way.
01:10:31
Speaker
Like I gasped when I saw this because I've never seen a record so pretty. Well, there's yeah. Anyway, tangent over. I just got that and like I wanted to. It's just so pretty. He's so pretty. And it comes with the liner notes are put together like the. The dead wall. Yeah, yeah. With the blood smear on the top. That's love that. And not to not to brag or anything.
01:11:01
Speaker
But I've met John Harrison, the guy who composed this. I have met him. Of course. He's a solid fucking dude. I've met most of the people involved with Day of the Dead. Actually, the only person I haven't met that I wanted to meet and involved with Day of the Dead is Howard Sherman or Sherman Howard, whoever he wants to be that day. Who plays Bub?
01:11:27
Speaker
in the movie and he's well and obviously Richard Liberty because he died before like I could even care about horror movies. Correct. Well, yeah, I always wished I'd met Richard Sherman. I did get to meet Laurie Cardell, though, and I did give her a big old hug and I almost cried. I don't fanboy out because I'm not that kind of person. No, you're not. But Laurie Cardell as Sarah in that movie. Oh, man, like a large part of my life.
01:11:57
Speaker
was spent watching that movie formative years of my life. And the character means something to me. And I wanted to let her know. Right on. You've met Grandpa George? From Gremlins to what? Who you talking about, Grandpa George? No, George Romero, Grandpa George. Oh yeah, I met George Romero. I sure did. In 2010. Yeah. Seems like a nice dude.
01:12:24
Speaker
He was very hospitable. He was very accommodating with the limited amount of time we had with him because his line, of course, was the longest. Of course. But that meant there weren't as many people at other booths. So I got to talk to everybody else involved in Day of the Dead, like for a really long time. Right. I talked to the guy who plays John and I got to talk to actually talk to John Amplus, who is in Day of the Dead, who is also in one of my other favorite Romero films, Martin.
01:12:55
Speaker
Love me some John Amplus. Give me some John Amplus all day long. He was really nice. And I met John Harrison, the composer. There was somebody else that I can't think of, but yeah. But then I met Laurie and Miguel at a different convention. So that one was kind of separate from the other experience. And the guy who plays John isn't even Jamaican.
01:13:24
Speaker
He's American. He's just doing a Jamaican accent acting. Oh. That's the you do this when you act, right? That's what whenever I act, I just do this. And that means I'm acting. You're doing the the Bill and Ted arm hand on the heart, arm out thing. It could be interpreted that way to each other. I totally believe you, dude.
01:13:52
Speaker
You do love that line delivery. That's my favorite. I don't know. What the fuck else do we have to say about the about it? Did it do any box office? No. What's our socials? Oh, fuck. No, because here's the thing. It didn't have a theatrical release, but it did have a limited festival run, including a mere two. Right. It did. It had a Los Angeles premiere and it had a
01:14:18
Speaker
a festival premiere. It actually won the Best Feature Film Award at the Whittier Film Festival, the first annual Whittier Film Festival in 2008. Well, I wonder what the other movies were, damn.
01:14:34
Speaker
I wonder if that's related to Whittier Entertainment, which is the company that makes the the VHS copies of newer movies that I buy could be Lumberhouse Party Massacre remake, which I saw you sneak that on the schedule. Stephen, I'm so excited. I didn't really sneak it on the schedule so much as one of our guests like demanded that she be on for that. And so we put it on the schedule for her. Who is it? Who is it? You saw it on the schedule, but you didn't see who the guest was.
01:15:03
Speaker
No, because it didn't go. No. Is it who I think it is? It's what? Yeah, it's exactly who you think it is. Because who the fuck else would it be? Who the fuck would request that movie? Right. Finally going to get it, man.
01:15:17
Speaker
I'm finally gonna get it. All right. I don't wanna be vague anymore, so let's move on, because I'm really excited about it, yeah. So it had its initial festival debut at the Latino Film Festival in San Diego, California on March 1st, 2007. Now the weekend box office for that weekend, opening number one at the box office is that cinematic masterpiece known as Wild Hogs,
01:15:48
Speaker
with Martin Lauren, the aforementioned Martin Lawrence, Tim Allen. Impactable Martin Lawrence, yes. Yes. The, oh, what's a William H. Macy's in that one too. I forget who the fourth guy is, but there's a fourth guy. And then in second place, one of my favorite movies from an incredible director, my favorite movie of 2007 actually, David Fincher's Zodiac.
01:16:17
Speaker
Oh, we do love that movie around here, don't we?
Ghost Rider Films with Nicolas Cage
01:16:20
Speaker
That movie fucking slaps. It's so fucking good. In third place, Ghost Rider, speaking of people brought back from the dead for vengeance. The original one or the second one? The Nicolas Cage, the first one, Ghost Rider. They both had Nicolas Cage in them. OK, the first one. Gotcha. Yeah. They're just vastly different. Like, I kind of like them both, too. Like, the first one's like, has like a comic book charm to it. It's a little.
01:16:47
Speaker
cheesy in a comic book way and it works for me it doesn't work for most people but it works for me and the second one is just so balls to the wall ridiculous in the way that it's shot like they're throwing cameras off of cliffs and shit like it's since it looks what like it's a shit movie but damn it's a wild ride and it looks fantastic all the camera work and it's not like CGI assisted or anything like there's whipping cameras around and shit going nuts sorry
01:17:16
Speaker
Wild anyway. Yeah.
Movie Rankings and Misconceptions?
01:17:18
Speaker
Well, in fourth place, Bridge to Terabithia and in fifth place, the number 23. What if there was a number called 23? Wasn't that a biography of a baseball player? No, you're thinking of 42. The number 23 was that Jim Carrey, like psychological thriller. Wait, I know who directed that. It wasn't Ron Howard.
01:17:43
Speaker
But almost. Yeah. Ron Howard. No, almost Ron Howard. You're right. Oh, fuck, fuck, fuck. Oh, yeah. The highs are high, but they're actually the highs aren't that high, but the lows do get real, real low. It's not very Sonnenfeld. No, it's not. No. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Batman forever.
01:18:08
Speaker
Yep. Joel Schumacher. Correct. Yes. I knew I'd get there. I knew it. Start at Ron Howard, you'll get there. Rounding out our top 10 in sixth place, Norbit, in seventh place, music and lyrics, in eighth place, Black Snake Moan also opening this weekend, in ninth place, Reno 911, Miami, and in 10th place, Breach. What if there was a Breach? What if something had Breach did it?
01:18:38
Speaker
Now, so that's its initial theatrical run. It also has a limit, or that's the beginning of its festival run. Its limited theatrical run begins a couple months later, mid-May, May 18th, 2007. And so we've got a completely different set of films here. In first place, opening new this week, Shrek the Third.
Nostalgia for Shrek the Third and Spider-Man 3
01:19:03
Speaker
The third Shrek movie. Yeah, yeah.
01:19:07
Speaker
And maybe the worst movie? I don't really like any of them. Fair. They're they're not good. They're not good movies. I get it. I get why people like them, but they're just not for me. Sure. And mostly it's nostalgia. In second place, Spider-Man three. Remember, that was the summer of the three threes. I saw it. However, it is both same. It is before. Don't do that. Oh, don't do that. The front road I'm at. Oh, that's a bad move. That's a bad, bad, bad, bad. Because the whole time you're like,
01:19:39
Speaker
Tucker is simulating, giving himself whiplash. Gesturing wildly with my head from side to side, up and down. You're doing a lot of you're doing a lot of physical bits on this episode. Well, yeah, well, that's why it's theater of the mind. You know, if you describe it, then people will have this image and it may not be anything like what I'm doing, but it's going to be rad, probably. And they're going to it's like reading a book.
01:20:05
Speaker
If you say so. I do. I think you also have a much broader definition of rad than I do. And opening third this week is 28 days or 20, I'm sorry, 28 weeks later. You know, they just finished filming that new one, the 28 years. They just finished filming it. Is Killian coming back? Because I don't know if I'm interested if Killian ain't coming back.
01:20:30
Speaker
I haven't been reading the articles. I've just been catching the headlines. I haven't had time. I wish I had time to read about movies, Steve, but all I have time to do is skim the headlines. It's going to be OK. In fourth place, Georgia Rule. What if Georgia Rule? Yeah, what if? In fifth place, Disturbia, that weird remake of the window movie. Yeah, that was fun. I liked that. David Morse in that movie as well. Yeah.
01:20:56
Speaker
And then rounding out the top 10 for that weekend, we got Fracture at six. Delta Farce at seven. The Invisible at eight. Hot Fuzz at nine. We do like that movie. And twice at the theater. Twice. Yeah. Two weeks in a row when that bitch came out, because I knew it wasn't going to be there for very long. Yeah, it's a good call. I was like, I got to go see it again. And back then, it took forever for things to drop on home media.
Theater to Home Media Transition Frustration?
01:21:22
Speaker
Like six months, dude. Something came out in the summer. You were lucky to get it by Christmas. Yeah, man. Yeah. They would rush those blockbusters out for like the holiday rush, man, so everyone could get them for their kids for Christmas. But if it was a movie that, like Hot Fuzz, that you were not likely to see it, you'd be lucky. Although this is May, so, you know.
01:21:47
Speaker
Six months, maybe by December. Your movie is still making money in the theater when it drops to rent and buy streaming, which I kind of think I kind of think that's sort of rad. That that's that's a COVID thing. And I'm glad that it kind of got left over because I
01:22:08
Speaker
I'm the type of person, if I'm excited enough about a movie, I will go see it at the theater. I will try my best to go and see it at the theater. But to have that option so soon, because I hated that back in the day, go and see a movie at theater or missing a movie at the theater and having to wait like six, seven months, dude. Before it even became available to rent.
01:22:33
Speaker
Yeah, man. Like, what are you doing? What are you doing that whole time? Doesn't take that long to make a 4x3 pan and scan version. Come on. Come on. Whittier does it.
01:22:45
Speaker
Um, and then in 10th
Low Budget Movie Visuals
01:22:47
Speaker
place, uh, blades of glory. So there you go. Oh, that's fun. Uh, but yeah, no, no real box office, uh, numbers to speak of, uh, no, uh, I think the listed budget estimated is a $1 million. And even that has a citation needed on Wikipedia. Because if that is true, this, despite how much I hate it, this looks great for a million bucks. Yeah.
01:23:15
Speaker
Like if you can do that with a million bucks, somebody give this person a decent script or this crew a decent script. Because if you can do that on a million bucks, it's shit. But for a million bucks, like that's kind of impressive. And the computer effects are even not as bad as they could be.
01:23:35
Speaker
like there's again this thing is not without its charm it's just not interesting it just sucks a whole lot it does it's one of those movies that sucks so bad that like the good things about it no matter how good they are doesn't fucking matter yeah because it all is just in this pit of shittiness
01:23:57
Speaker
Yeah, man. So yeah, we we've got no Tomatometer score on this one. There's, I think, only like one critic review on this movie from Ernest Hardy of LA Weekly.
01:24:11
Speaker
which he gave it a bad review, is what it looks like. I can't believe it. Audience score, though, is 28%. I don't normally give the audience score, but since it's the only one I have on Rotten Tomatoes to get right now, that's the one I got. It's also not on Metacritic, which I guess is not super surprising. It is, however, on Letterboxd. Okay, I got this one. And Tucker, do you wanna take a shot at the... Yes, I do. Yeah, go for it.
01:24:41
Speaker
I'm going to say that this is going to be in between a 2.4 and a 2.8. So looking at the ratings, it doesn't look like enough people have rated this movie on Letterboxd for it to even have a collated score. I could figure it out, but it would be a big long pause of me doing math.
01:25:10
Speaker
At first glance, Steven, what's your approximation? It looks like the highest number of ratings is the two star ratings of which there are 28. There are 25 one and a half star ratings and 21 two and a half star ratings. So I would lean probably somewhere between 1.5 and two for this one. Well, we'll never know until more people review it, I guess.
01:25:35
Speaker
It has significantly more one-star ratings than five-star ratings. It has eight half-star ratings. There are five-star ratings. Oh, I forgot memes. Right. Yeah. The only one that has a review written for it is in what looks to be Portuguese, and that is a language I do not speak. However, let me see if I can translate that real quick for... Oh, here we go.
01:26:01
Speaker
Yeah, Bad Bunny's performance was the best of the decade. Jonas Boron made the most. Yeah, completely different movie. So, yeah, there you go. Because so are you sure it's the right one? Are they wrong or are we wrong? Oh, they're wrong. This is the dead one. 2007. So, yes, they are. They are in the wrong. But yeah, there you go. That is I don't know how. How do you rate it, Tucker?
01:26:30
Speaker
Oh, I give it a star. Same. One star. Just a single star. Yeah. Again, it sucks, it's bad, but it's not without its charm. And that charm is worth a star. I wouldn't say charm more like there's a few times where it doesn't completely fucking suck. Just a few. Just one or two. Yeah.
01:26:59
Speaker
But you know, you do what you gotta do. And yeah, that's our episode on the dead one in which we barely talk about the dead one.
01:27:07
Speaker
We killed that time, though. We sure did. That's some good tangents, too. And, you know, I feel like we can control that a lot better now because it used to be back in the day, we just go on uncontrollable tangents on any episode, no matter what we were talking about. And now I think we're real good at focusing on stuff, which is why in episodes like this, you really know we don't want to talk about the movie because we are intentionally going back to our wild ways, our wild tangent ways.
01:27:34
Speaker
Oh, you might say we're going straight to the wild, wild west. No, no, that's called back in West. It's Jim West, right? Desperado. Yeah. No, you don't want not Wilmer Valderrama described this movie as the crow meets Desperado. Oh, what was the third? There was a third one in there, too. Is the crow meets Desperado? Still done. No, what was it? No, it was only one of a Rodriguez movie. Yeah.
01:28:05
Speaker
But he's like, oh yeah, there's a lot of Robert Rodriguez in this. And I'm like, is there, though? Is there? No. Not enough. There's a lot of parks. Robert Rodriguez. He's in Robert Rodriguez. He plays a similar character in Robert Rodriguez movies. Yes, but that's something I would want to compare my movie to.
01:28:24
Speaker
future episode of this podcast, Spawn. Spoiler, Spawn is better than this movie.
John Leguizamo's Versatility
01:28:30
Speaker
Yes. But Spawn is not a good movie. No, there's a reason Spawn did not get a sequel. You know, I think we're going to try to hold out for when that Jamie Foxx Spawn comes out to cover, to cover the Michael J. White Spawn. The heart of Spawn and the only reason that I keep watching it and by keep watching it, I mean about every five years, I'll come back and watch it, is John Leguizamo.
01:28:52
Speaker
Yeah, I believe it. I love him as the violator. I believe it. Yeah, he's I just love John Leguizamo, especially that era when he was doing stuff like To Wong Fu and that movie and fucking a little bit after that, he was doing stuff like Land of the Dead. And yeah, I like John Leguizamo. He's in the past. No, nobody likes the past. No, literally no one likes the past. Perfectly cast. Yes. But
01:29:21
Speaker
Is it a movie that needed to be made? No. No. No. No. I think we could probably say that for most movies, but yeah.
Podcast Promotion
01:29:30
Speaker
So hey, find us on socials. We're at DisinfranchPod on a few different forms of social media that I occasionally update when I get the time. And yeah, you can shoot us an email, DisinfranchPod at gmail.com. Check out our Patreon, patreon.com slash DisinfranchPod. Join the official conversation of the Disinfranchise podcast. Tucker at least will respond. I will try. Tucker, Tucker do get real, real busy though. So maybe he do, maybe he don't, you don't know.
01:30:00
Speaker
Um, and, uh, but yeah, and, uh, at some point he's going to drop those, uh, two most recent, uh, and by most recent, I mean, I think we recorded those in June, uh, episodes of what are we watching? I don't know what the chances are, but I am going to put that on my list of things to do tomorrow because I don't have a lot of days where I have time to complete tasks outside of nannying and working as a camp host. Uh, but tomorrow I will have some time.
01:30:30
Speaker
to complete some tasks and run some errands. And I'm going to try and fit that in there. And I'm probably just going to release them not all as one file, but all at once.
01:30:41
Speaker
and then hopefully we can record another one soon because that's the thing is like if we didn't have a backlog we could still be recording these because it doesn't take a lot to put them together but the fact that I have a backlog just makes it that much more difficult that I can't get it done. It's like anxious avoidance kind of thing. Yeah. Yeah, I know all about that. I know all about that. Like I got time for one but I don't know if I have time for two.
01:31:09
Speaker
Well, just put the one out, man. You don't have to release them at the same time. Just put the one out. I want them both to come out at the same time, and I'm going to have to show them. Well, then you're doing that to yourself then. I guess so. No one else is asking for that. You're the only one asking for that. Yeah, but I'll bet people would want them both at the same time.
01:31:27
Speaker
I don't know that they would. Hey, let us know in the show notes over at patreon.com slash just in French pod. If you want Tucker to release both, what are we watching at the same time? Or if you just want one and so just have him release them as you can. There might actually be three. I don't know. Okay. Yeah. Now that I think about it. Well, you would know better than I would. I have no clue. Yeah.
01:31:55
Speaker
So anyway, check that out over there.
Stephen Foxworthy's Book Promotion
01:32:00
Speaker
And while you're on the internet, leave us a five-star rating and review wherever you get your podcasts, especially if that's Apple Podcasts or Spotify, so we can find more listeners and stuff. I'm your host, Stephen Foxworthy. You can find me on some social medias at Chewy Walrus. You can buy my book, Check In, Check Out, at Amazon on either paperback or ebook.
01:32:23
Speaker
And Brett's not on social media, so don't try. Hey, Tucker, where are you at? I'm still on YouTube and Instagram at Ice 909. That's I-C-E-N-I-N-E, the number zero, the number nine. Also, Tuckmugs is still around. Tuck underscore mugs. I know it feels like I'm saying this a lot, but only because it's true. But I'm really, really busy. But I do have stuff for Tuckmugs. I have literally had...
01:32:54
Speaker
cut out that literally. I have had actually legitimately had an email from Jimmy sitting in my inbox for two weeks of his submission of a guest mug. But the reason that I haven't this some BTS shit for you talk about fans. The reason that I haven't done it is because whenever Jimmy sends someone in, I have to punch up his
01:33:24
Speaker
his uh his words his uh you know description body the body of the post i have to punch it up a bit because i mean i don't know he doesn't look at mugs the same way i do but with the stuff you do gives me do i do i do no i said few do few few love mugs as much as you do do do
01:33:45
Speaker
Uh, but so I have to punch that up and it's not a big, it's not like I'm not saying Jimmy stupid. Jimmy is a very talented man. We've discussed this before. Yes. There are some things that he's good at and there's some things that I'm good at. And sometimes they're not the same things. Sometimes they are, but not this time. So when he sends one in, I got to punch up his shit so that it's, it's longer than like a sentence.
01:34:13
Speaker
Uh, but what's really cool is I know Jimmy so well that I can take that sentence and make a couple paragraphs and not just be like filling space. You know what I mean? Right. So I'm, I really want to get it done and it's sitting in my inbox. I haven't put it in a folder anywhere. Cause that's what I do when I want to forget about something I need to do. Let's put it in one of my folders in my, my email. Sure. It's still sitting right there in my inbox. I mark it as unread. It's going to happen. I just, I'm getting there. You guys look.
01:34:42
Speaker
August is almost over after Labor Day or Memorial Day. What's the one in September? Labor Day. After Labor Day, I will have so much more time with my hands and we'll get, we'll get not only the water we watchings and some Patreon crap out, like I'll get some, some tuck mugs too, because I do have a few new mugs.
01:35:05
Speaker
I have my new Lincoln Square mug that Stephen was there with me when I got it. That's true. Because when we attended the screening of Circle City Supernatural, it was in a theater that was attached to a Lincoln Square restaurant. Literally right next door.
01:35:22
Speaker
And boy, it was good. And and I had never been out with Steven like that before. And like he's he's a real charming guy. And I was like, it's a side of Steven I hadn't seen before because he's always so mean to me. I'm just so cruel.
01:35:40
Speaker
No, he's not beating me. God, I'd never let you do anything. No, I'd just never seen you really interact with waitstaff before like that. And I was like, yeah, Steven's kind of a charming dude. I said, OK, OK. Yeah. We all have our things that we're good at.
01:35:56
Speaker
That's true. And like, I'm usually pretty charming with waitstaff. I'm always really friendly and joke around and stuff, but I didn't even dare because Steven fucking had it. All right. I'm good. Like, wow. Anything I do is just going to look stupid compared to what this man is doing. Damn. I was watching him like trying to get tips, writing shit down my little notebook. Anyway, tuck underscore mugs.
01:36:21
Speaker
Be there. Be there. Yeah. And that is our episode. That is episode 197 of the Distant Franchise Podcast. I think so. I think we're coming in. Coming in close on episode 200. Whatever will it be? We actually need to talk about that after this recording. So we're going to go do that. I know. I'm just I remember too. I'm letting you know we remember. So I do. I got you.
01:36:51
Speaker
Anyway, this has been the disenfranchised podcast. I have been your host, Stephen Foxworthy, for my co-host Tucker and the absent Brett Wright. Until next time, if the people we love are stolen from us, the way to have them live on is to never stop loving them. Buildings burn, people die, but real love is forever.
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