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006.2 - Beetlejuice (1988) REDUX
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“I’ve seen The Exorcist about 167 times… and it keeps getting funnier every time I see it!”
In anticipation of the long-awaited sequel to the original dropping in theaters this week, we’re revisiting the topic of our earliest episodes from our very first ever Spooky-thon back in 2020 - 1988’s classic Beetlejuice! Only this time, there’s a Tucker onboard! Listen to him rant about the function of adverbs and discuss the Ghostbusters legasequels with our own (returning!) Brett Wright! We also talk about the double-edged sword at the intersection of Art and Capitalism and speculate wildly about what Beetlejuice Beetlejuice might contain before we cover it next week (as we are honor-bound to do)! Join us, won’t you??
Check out Michael Keaton’s stand-up routine about Bazooka Joe comics, as referenced by Stephen: https://youtu.be/3fCaoAQtsRU?si=fuZfgM4ficiYeZW-
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Introduction to the Disenfranchised Podcast
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I'll say good for you.
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disenfranchised podcast and me one go home. It's the disenfranchised podcast that podcasts all about those franchises of one those films that fancy themselves full fledged franchises before falling flat on their face after the first film. And that's the first time I've said that before recording on this movie. ah That's right. I'm your host, Steven Foxworthy and joining me From the good old days, the bad old days, the original, don't call it a comeback, two weeks in a row, here he is, the man, the myth, the legend, say his name three times and he shall appear, Brett Wright, Brett Wright, Brett Wright! It's showtime, Steven. Boy, howdy, ain't it ever. Except unlike the last time we recorded an episode on 1988's Beetlejuice Brett, we're joined by a third,
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A man who has joined our company as the third host of the disenfranchised podcast. We're recording it for him, really, because we we already recorded an episode on this, but we didn't get his thoughts. So here we are.
Beetlejuice Revisited and Sequel Speculation
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Ladies and gentlemen, it's it's it's the host with the most. It's Tucker. Hey, Tucker. Hey, baby. I mean, hi, Steven. How's it going?
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It goes. We are once again here to do our first ever Redux episode, the first time we've ever gone back to cover a movie we've already covered. um This was episode, Brett, correct me if I'm wrong, episode six.
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of the original show. You would know better than I would. I don't remember what episode it was. Probably would. I can actually look it up, because the internet is a thing that exists. And I have a spreadsheet of every episode we've ever done, because that's the kind of person I am, fundamentally. It is, in fact, episode number six, originally released Thursday, October 15th, and the year of our Lord, 2020 was the last time we talked about that. Top number one.
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Yes, in the original spooky time, the third episode of our first ever spooky time. And covered at your request, as I recall, Brett, we each picked a couple of movies and then picked New Mutants, because why the hell not? And um yeah, this was this was a Brett's choice, one of the first Brett's choices. And And yeah, we're we're here back to talk about it again because, i gentlemen, I don't know if you guys have heard about this. Tim Burton's directing a new Beetlejuice movie. I heard he already had. I heard that he had already directed it. He probably had. Oh, shit, is it that time already? Yeah, dude, like a couple days. We're recording this episode two years ago.
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um Oh, I forgot. Yeah. yeah it No, it is. It's coming out next weekend, and so it or this coming weekend. So in preparation of or yeah in preparation for that movie releasing, we're going back. We're re-recording an episode on Beetlejuice. And then next week, because of our solemn duty, that our our our sacred promise to you, our listeners, next week we gather here together in this hallowed space to discuss the sequel.
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Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice. First time. First time we've ever had to come back and cover a sequel. it's been This is the season five premiere, basically. this is ah We just ended see our fourth year doing this podcast last week. And so this is basically the beginning of season five. And so what a way to kick off season five, really, with ah with a first. Yeah. And in four years.
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And I mean, who thought, who would have thought that this would have happened? Like how many years were they talking about Beetlejuice Goes Align? Like it's like, since the first one. Since this movie came out. Yeah. Like we were pretty sure they weren't going to do a sequel to Beetlejuice. I think we talked about it on the, I didn't go back and re-listen to the episode I meant to and just didn't. I should have. I should have. I thought about it and then decided, no. So long time fans, be prepared to probably hear us say a lot of the same shit. Oops. But that's why Tucker's here. So. I can tell you exactly what you said. You guys are like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Nobody's ever going to make a sequel to this. Whoa, whoa, whoa, idiots. Whoa, whoa, whoa. That's what you said. That's spot on. That's probably me. That's a spot on impression. That is a really good impression of Brad, yeah. Thank you. Thank you.
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But no, i because ah we do talk. I remember we mentioned we bring up Beetlejuice Goes Hawaiian, and I'm pretty sure we're like, after the after all this time,
Michael Keaton's Career and Beetlejuice's Legacy
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how could they? um And here's us eating those words. Well, um I don't know. The the cash-grabby nature of the LEGO sequel is kind of in full force right now. There have been a number of things that we've kind of put off covering because of out of fear that they might get sequels someday.
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um And talking about legacy sequels, I can't wait to be incredibly pissed off of your opinion about this one. Well, I have it. I think I think the magic of this one, I'm going to we're going to get into I'm not going to I'm not going to just fire that off here so close to the top.
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um No, no point. um But yeah, basically, friends, here we are back again, this time to discuss Beetlejuice 1988, a film directed by one Mr. Timothy Burton, written by Michael McDowell and Warren Scaran.
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um Based on a story by McDowell and Larry Wilson, starring Alec Baldwin, Gina Davis, Michael Keaton, Jeffrey Jones, Catherine O'Hara, Winona Ryder, Sylvia Sidney, Robert Goulet, Dick Cavett, The Laint, Glenn Shaddix, Annie McEnroe, what a cast. Gentlemen, i I think we could all agree, what a picture.
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Yeah. I mean, that's why it was like one of my first Brett's picks on this podcast. Man, I love this movie. If Brett's picking, it's going to be Beetlejuice. Yeah. Well. Yeah, you're right. ah Nothing else. it would be that There's no other movie that it would ever be that I've talked about ad nauseam. It's Beetlejuice. It's Beetlejuice. Clearly. It's my favorite movie I talk about all the time. ah But no, I mean, I grew up watching the cartoon. I had the entire toy line collection. a I mean, I watched the movie over and over, probably when I shouldn't have at such a young age.
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so In retrospect, all of the stuff you just mentioned makes it even more wild that they never did make a sequel to this movie. Like, there was a very popular toy line, a very popular animated show. um Like, usually that's the kind of stuff you do to buffer until the sequel comes out, and it just never came. ah Back then, like, people weren't all gung-ho about that shit, because there wasn't a whole bunch of money in it. i mean like People like Tim Burton, Tim Burton didn't even know what the fuck a sequel was until he made Batman Returns. Like, he's like, sequel, can you explain that word to me? He only made that because they backed a dump truck of money up to his house and gave him complete creative freedom.
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yeah Yeah, that's what I was gonna say. Like he didn't know what a s sequel was. Yeah, I don't think he even he still didn't know what a sequel was after Batman returns. They just gave him a lot of money. too like Yeah. Is this a sequel? It's one of two examples where Warner Brothers gives a director a shit ton of money to make a sequel to a movie they did not want to make a sequel to. And they end up turning in this incredibly bizarre, um a tourist vision that makes absolutely no money whatsoever. The other great example, of course being Gremlins 2, which is another masterpiece. Batman Returns is the best Batman movie. Gremlins 2 is the best Gremlins movie. Fucking fight me. I just don't think anybody wanted i'm to do it. Gremlin is in the movie. What? I'm sorry, Tucker. Go ahead. I said, I don't think anybody, anybody wanted, I don't think Michael Keaton wanted to do it. And then Catherine O'Hara and none of those people. They're just like, okay, we did Beetlejuice. We're going to move on with our lives because it's 1989 and that's how it works. It's not, we don't live in franchised land like we do now.
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the Mick franchise everywhere. so And the thing, Keaton, after this movie would point to this as one of his favorite roles. And so I think he was always fairly keen to get it done. I just think he had to make himself bankable again, which didn't happen until after Birdman. He had that big comeback in 2014 with Birdman and that kind of catapulted him to relevance again. And I think he was able to parlay that into his role as the vulture in Spider-Man Homecoming and then parlay that into this, frankly. I don't understand. um i respect I respect that opinion, but I don't really understand why people say that Birdman was his comeback. That man was still doing shit. That man was in the Robocop remake for the love of Pete for crying in the mud.
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I loved was, as we mentioned on that episode, beloved by everyone who saw it. I saw it. You're right. No, that was that's a that's a movie for Tucker's is what that is. Oh, it's so good. It's not it's let's do it's not as good as the original. Like, like we did an episode on that. So you all know my opinion on it. Like, correct. Yeah, it is. It's not it's not a great movie, but it is a perfect remake is what I'm going to say. And I think you said that on that episode, too. Fucking that's how you do a remake right there.
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for good or real And of course, as long time fans of the podcast might remember, I did not see this movie until I was much older because religious household ghosts are evil. There it is. um Because of Jesus. Because of Jesus. um So summed it all up there for you. ah Tucker, we've never heard of your history with Beetlejuice. How did you come to this movie? When did you come to this movie? What is your legacy, your your historic feelings on this film? ah Lay it out for us, please.
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Well, hi, my name is Tucker. I studied at Juilliard and, uh, no, I'm sorry. I live through the black plague and I had a pretty good time during that. Seen the exorcist about 167 times and it keeps getting funnier every time I see it. Way good. Not to mention the fact that you're talking to a dead guy. Uh, anyway, um, uh, Beetlejuice.
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is one of those films that I've probably seen the most. If I had a list of films I've seen the most times, this would probably almost definitely be in the top five. um This film was not only beloved by me, but my entire family, so much so that we bought this movie. We did not just tape it off TV. Oh, we bought this movie. Yeah.
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And I watched it over and over and over. I wish I still had that VHS because I'd love to pop it in and see how terrible it looks just because I watched it so many times. Like
Critique of Modern Film Industry Trends
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the degradation on that thing. Oh boy. I, I, I doubt it barely plays these days. Um, but yeah, I loved it when I was a kid. I never got into the cartoon because I thought it sucked. Therefore I never got any of the action figures because like, like, how are they going to be friends after that? How are they going to be friends after that?
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yeah and then they're friends in the cartoon like that's just sta As a perfect example of the kind of like like person that I am when I consume media, sometimes, especially when I was a kid, I don't care if it makes sense. It's more of that stuff I love. So I'm just going to watch it. Very very on brand for Brett. and yet And yet continuity is still a thing that you really obsess over. That's that's a fun paradox about you, man. It is, yeah. I mean, looking looking back, well, as as a kid, I didn't care about continuity as much.
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I do now. Fair. You've, you've grown into that nerd, nerd, that nerd stalgia. Yeah, pretty much. Yeah. But I mean, I get it. But also you can look at it like it's an alternate universe. Sometimes the best explanation to hand wave away continuity is that it's just another universe. The musical lives in a different universe from the movie and all that. Yeah.
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Anyways, I also didn't like the character designs or the animation or the voice voices that they had on that show. I just look I tried it and I was just so turned off by it that I never watched it again. And I was just strictly strictly a movie dude.
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I think the only other thing that I experienced with Beetlejuice outside of the film was he used to have a show at Universal Studios where him and all the Universal Monsters would sing pop songs. Well, like pop songs in the 70s, though. And he is great. You wouldn't think Beetlejuice would have a good singing voice, but he sounds just like the guy from Foreigner. Oh, nice. At least he did when I was there. Yeah. Yeah. Who are not British, by the way.
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Right. But that's just long contended thought I put that the Ghostbusters were also there in Universal around the time Beetlejuice was. yeah I think they they're still there. Ghostbusters are still part of Universal. They still have a duel for the park came back. I mean, they weren't in the part like they took their show away. They weren't characters in the park anymore. That recently came back in the last couple of years. You say and they used to be there, but they're they're there now, too.
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No, but they were gone for most of the 90s in the early 2000s. They didn't come back until after life. life. I like the way that sounds, even if you don't know what it means. i I don't know why I just turned into Jeff Goldblum all of a sudden, but I think it's the glasses. Well, there it is. That was odd. Yeah, that's really odd.
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Uh, yeah, so yeah, I hit the Beetlejuice, he was singing and the dancing and all that stuff, and it was really cool. Um, yeah, I've had this film on VHS and on DVD. Um, I do not currently own a Blu-ray of it. I wonder if there's a 4K. It's one of those movies I've watched so many times that I don't even think about watching it because I could just watch it in my head if I wanted to.
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yeah Same. I didn't even watch the movie again for this recording. I just tab it in my head. I'd seen it enough times. I didn't need to watch it again. I hadn't seen it in a long enough time. Why was I was looking forward to watching it for this podcast? Unfortunately, I did not get to watch it in the best of conditions, but it did get consumed. And since I've seen it so many times. um Oh, but here's the thing, though. I haven't seen it very many times in its original aspect ratio. Maybe I shouldn't get a should get a bluer. I just spent sixty five dollars on four Ks yesterday. I can't do this again. Don't send me a link, Steven. No, no.
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ah oh What are the special features? Oh, let me see. Special features. Oh, nothing. That second link is a better one because it's it's the whole gift set. Okay. Oh, but does it? It looks like it's got a... Does it have more spatial features? Looks like it's got a couple of bonus discs. I look like a soundtrack.
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No, you got your Blu-ray, you got your 4K. Oh, ah that price though. the a yeah But you don't want to spend $300 on a Beetlejuice gift set? Nope. Fuck off. Hey, I need some extra features, man. Like, come on. I guess I can watch this movie in my head. You better give me some motivation to get that 4K. I wouldn't be surprised as if, even if Beetlejuice Beetlejuice is mildly successful, they will do something like that.
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yeah Yeah, chances are good. We'll get like ah a steelbook and a two disc set of both movies, the Beetlejuice collection, whatever. but I'll wait for the collection after this Beetlejuice Beetlejuice comes out in a few years. Then I'll get the collection. Whoa.
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So, yes, David Geffen company, when the second one comes out on physical media, just do a box set with a bunch of special features for both called Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice. And then everybody will be happy. Four K's. I need needed I needed at least I needed at least four K's on mine on that. There's not going to be a third movie, Stephen, and that. I promise you. Not going to happen. Never, ever, ever. Never, ever, ever, ever, ever.
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We're gonna be doing Beetlejuice forever. That's a Tookie promise or ever And you know why you never heard a Tookie promise before because I'm not sure about many things But I'm very sure that there will never ever ever ever ever ever ever be a third Beetlejuice movie. What makes you say that though? Yeah, why are you so sure right? Because they wouldn't do it without Michael Keaton And what makes you think Michael Keaton wouldn't do it again? This is the his favorite character he's ever played. I understand that,
Keaton's Improvisation in Beetlejuice
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but did you see how Beetlejuice moves in the original one? Michael Keaton is 70 years old. 70 years old. 73, I believe, as of the release of the film. And you know what? i I have faith in him that he will still be able to bring the physicality of that role back this time.
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But I guarantee you, whether it's his favorite role or not, a 73-year-old man, in a couple years from now, in these 75, is not gonna be down to try that. I think Keaton might be. I don't know. ye I think Keaton would. Tookie Promise, I guess we'll see what happens. What do I have to do if they make a third one? What's my punishment if they make a third one? I mean, we're covering, we have to cover it if they make another one, and so. That doesn't sound like a punishment.
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i what it I don't know. I guess it depends on how we feel about the new one. I would say you'll make me watch a really bad movie, but that's like most of the time when I don't pick the movie. so Except for Marmaduke. You fucking love Marmaduke. you so I did not love Marmaduke. Go back and listen to the episode. I appreciated it because of the state I was in at the moment.
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which was a state of exhaustion mentally and physically. And it was just something that I didn't have to care about. And farts were there. Yeah. Dang ass freak. That's me. Hi, hi, hi, hi.
00:19:24
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um But yeah, Beetlejuice, the original 1988, we will speculate more wildly on the sequel later in the episode. But for now, we're here to talk about the original, the first, the OG, 1988's Tim Burton classic, Beetlejuice. Well, let me start by saying it's a perfect film. All right, guys, this has been a good podcast. We'll see you next week. All right. Bye, everybody. Bye.
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like Like, I know there's a lot to talk about, but guys, this there' is you can't find something wrong with this film. Somebody. Find it. Find something wrong with this movie. da I'm sure Steven's going to. He doesn't think it's a good movie. Damn it. I might agree with you, but he's not going to. I think that's like this this is a damn near perfect movie. I think the only thing that really keeps it from being perfect for me is the
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I find the ending a little... kind of a shrug, but that's me. Like I want more of a punch, more of a payoff from the ending. But otherwise, I love the fact that the title character of the movie, our extensive villain, doesn't show up for like halfway through the movie. I love that. Beetlejuice is the hero. Seven minutes of screen time. He's the hairy lime of horror comedy, as I texted friend of the podcast, Hope Lickner, last night as I was watching this.
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And she was like, yeah, I'll add that to my my belief system, no problem. um Yeah, he's like, like Carrie Lime from Carol Reed's Excellent the Third Man. He they talk about him like for the first half of the movie, and then he shows up steals the entire movie, and then like, just, you know, gets killed off rather unceremoniously, right toward the end. And But he's the character that everyone regards and knows best from the film. um He is such a ah presence and throughout the movie, ah to the extent that Orson Welles as Harry Lime does that and the third man, I would say Michael Keaton does that as Beetlejuice here. Like that's 100% kind of what this movie is. And um I love it for that. I love the fact that Beetlejuice is the seasoning and not the dish.
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Well I think it's ah it speaks for the writers and um the actors that we still give a shit about any of the other characters once Beetlejuice gets there. Like you could very easily like spend all that time building him up and then bring him in. But if your other characters aren't interesting, you don't give a fuck about anything but Beatles use after that. Correct. But I like every character in that movie. I think every character in that movie is interesting and unique. And I believe every character in that movie. I've seen Catherine O'Hara in so many things.
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But I believe, I believe her, I believe she is Mrs. Dietz in this movie. I believe it. Yeah. Same with Jeffrey Jones, everybody there. This is this is my Alec Baldwin performance too, by the way. Like when someone says Alec Baldwin.
00:22:36
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um this is not who i think of because this is not the same guy as i've seen like in every other movie that or tv show that Alec Baldwin's been in and i love his performance in this movie and i love the chemistry between him and Gina Davis like i believe their relationship you guys it's just It's perfect and the opening where it's it's like a helicopter shot and then you don't notice when it turns and it cuts to the model and then there's the spider and there's so many good shots in this movie, man. The pacing is perfect. It never stops. It just keeps chugging along. No time is wasted. There's a perfect movie.
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perfect Yeah, I don't really know what you mean by needing a bigger punch at the end. that ah That's what I'm confused by, Steven. What do you mean? Explain that more. I don't know. I elaborate.
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i'm um I'm trying to put it into words. It's it's it's so it's ah it's a feeling I get. Like, Beetlejuice shows up and does all the stuff we want Beetlejuice to do. And that's great. But then it's like, well, we've got to, it feels rushed to me. Like we've got to solve the Beetlejuice problem, but there's only 10 minutes left in this movie. So let's hurry up and fix this real quick. Yeah, let's stand for him. Sure, but i I don't know. She's writing it. Yes, okay, sure, great, wonderful.
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Now should we think about how time moves much faster in the world real world than it does on Saturn and how she would have had to find that sandworm and like tame it and get on it and somehow ride it through that thing in a matter of like a half a second? No, because it doesn't matter. Because she's on a fucking sandworm and it just ate Beetlejuice.
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That's what's so good about this movie. There's so many leaps in logic that in any other movie, I'd be like, no, fuck you, movie. Get out of here. You're done. But this movie is so good, does not matter. None of the afterlife shit makes sense if you think about it. Nothing supernatural in this movie makes sense if you think about it. It doesn't fucking matter. It doesn't matter. It makes just enough sense that you don't have to fuck with me. That's what it is. It makes just enough sense that you don't go, what? I don't really...
00:25:00
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All right. was fine I mean, again, I do I Oh, in the long run, do I care? No, I really, I still really love this movie. Like this is I'm spoiler for my i I guess my my review. It's the four and a half star movie for like it's like I said, damn near perfect movie.
00:25:16
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So i you know I feel like i'm I'm nitpicking here, but like, no, I love this movie. This movie is really fun. And I think a lot of what I love about it yeah are the characters, particularly Keaton's portrayal as Beetlejuice. Like it it it becomes, within two years he plays his two most iconic roles working with Tim Burton. And that that's not insignificant. Like the man is Beetlejuice and then Batman back to back.
00:25:45
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And that's and before this, he was like a Mr. Mom. He was Mr. Mom. Like he was the guy from Mr. Mom or a gung ho. Like he's he's just like the the weird cheesy comedy guy. um Have you guys ever seen Keaton stand up? No.
00:26:05
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He does. he He used to do stand up back in back in the early eighties. There's a bit. Whoopi Goldberg. I always forget about that. Oh, yeah. It's crazy. He got winner. Whoopi Goldberg. Yes, it will yeah stand up.
00:26:18
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Keaton's stand-up was really bizarre. There's a bit he does about like a Bazooka Joe comic that oh i head always cracks me. It did the run on TikTok not too long ago. That's that's where I saw it, yeah. And he he starts, like but he goes, oh, you know I love Bazooka Joe. I love these little comics. Let me let me read this one to you.
00:26:39
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uh and he starts reading it uh and it's like oh you know i threw a clock out the window because i wanted to see if time flies and then he goes on this like long rants about like the existential quality and nature of time and it just He just keeps going with it so it becomes funnier and funnier as he keeps going with it. And then in the last panel, he's like, yeah, and then Bazooka Joe says, geez, sorry, I fucking asked or something like that. And it just perfect, perfect button. Like, it's just that kind of like raw sardonic kind of thing. But like, his is it I think that's his probably best known bit, but now, but a lot of his stand up was very much that way.
00:27:16
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can we take a little little segue of or noneless let's take a segue andve got some people in the the I sell it in my store. And you know what? The comics are still really fucking bad. It's like they're really committed to them being just the least funny thing in the entire fucking world. I believe it. Yeah, that makes sense. I believe that. Yeah. Yeah. Or are they just reusing the same ones over and over again? I wouldn't be surprised, honestly. you Are they new ones or how can you tell? I don't know. I don't know.
00:28:03
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hello no ah But that's, yeah, Bazooka Joe, you guys. Good times, LOLs. And Michael King did stand up. Yeah, Michael King did stand up. And yeah, that's the thing that you know now. I'll try to find that Bazooka Joe bit on YouTube or something and drop it in the show notes.
00:28:23
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I think I was aware that he started out and stand up, but I have never experienced any of that. I have no reference for it outside of what you just told me. is is it Is it true or a rumor that he improvised pretty much all of his lines in this movie? i mean that is That is what I have heard for sure. Well, he Denzeled it. He Denzeled it, which means he took what was on the page and just
00:28:46
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like he knew it so well that it's what he was going to say anyway, and then he just added what would naturally come with it. That's that's how you Denzel something like training day like 10 percent of the dialogue that Denzel says in training day. Is even even the King Kong quote is Yep, that is an improv ad libbed. It's an improv. Well, and you can kind of tell like the when Keaton needs to be on script he is and when you can kind of also tell when he's riffing and you you need a strong comedy background to be able to do that. And I think he does it fairly well. ah Like the whole Juilliard like tangent that we pretty much quoted earlier is essentially just one long ad lib and I think it's pretty fuck it's one of the
00:29:37
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one of the most quotable parts of this movie overall. So
Podcast's Tangential Nature and Fan Engagement
00:29:41
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I don't know. There's a nice fucking model was an improv too. Mm-hmm. And that makes sense. Like all 17 minutes things in this movie is quotable. Yeah. Yeah. I agree. All of his entire performance off the top of my head if I tried or not. Right. Like, yeah. ah In the, you know, grabbing himself and I mean, that that all reeks of like, this is just something he came up with in the moment and it made Tim Burton laugh and they kept it in the movie.
00:30:06
Speaker
Like there's so much of that kind of stuff in that performance. And I think those are the moments that really make this performance stand out. Now, from what I understand, he didn't ad lib as much in the upcoming film as he did in the original. So I don't know. We'll see if that, maybe it's just because we're dealing with writers who have grown up with it. And so they can write to that cadence a little better, but who knows? Upside as I've heard, he's only in the movie the same amount of time. Now I hope that's true. I really hope that's true because- I read it on the internet.
00:30:36
Speaker
ah Well, okay. The internet has never lied to anyone. Michael Keaton himself said that in an interview, so I'm a little bit more inclined to believe it. He also said he wouldn't do another one in an interview, which is what I based my whole promise on. How how long? Oh, so like during this press tour, he said he was not going to do with another one. Yeah. Well, that does lead lead a little bit more credence to your Well, do your prediction there. It's a little inside info there. I feel like if if they back up the money truck to his front door, I think he might go back on that. You don't think Michael Keaton already doesn't already have like five jump trucks full of money, like in his garage? Yeah, but so does Robert Downey Jr. And he keeps coming back to do Marvel movies. So I don't want to talk about that, you guys. Let's move on. I'm just saying it's it's a craving industry, Tucker. They all walked out there like they did something good.
00:31:27
Speaker
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. They were so proud of themselves. Oh, it's rubbing. Oh, fuck you. Fuck you. Let's move on. We haven't we haven't discussed this on mic or privately. So this is really fun. I'm having a good time right now.
00:31:44
Speaker
No, dude, don't i mean I don't want to talk about it either. like No, o no. I'm just saying Michael Keaton said it was asked if he would like to do other iconic roles or other you know sequels to other movies. This man straight up said multiplicity. ah Yeah, I would. I would.
00:32:04
Speaker
With today's technology, he was like, with today's technology, I'd really love to see what we could do with the sequel of that movie. That movie was fun. I really liked Multiplicity. That movie is goofy as hell. you did She touched my puppy, Steve. Hey, lady, here's your pizza. Uh, Beetlejuice may have been his favorite role, but according to his career retrospective that you did for GQ or Vanity Fair, whichever one it was ah recently,
00:32:30
Speaker
That was his favorite film to work on was Multiplicity because he got to create so many different characters. Right. And the way he talked about it, it was just like the most fun he'd ever had. yeah Until this movie, which is like the love the the sequel, because apparently he had so much fun working on that one, too. That's why he wants to do Multiplicity, too.
00:32:55
Speaker
And why if presented with a dumb truck full of money would probably do Beetlejuice 3. Oh, I don't know.
00:33:05
Speaker
I guess we'll see. Time will tell. Time will certainly tell. If nothing else, time will tell. I'm sorry about that, boys. Oh, go ahead. Who's that? Go ahead. What are you doing? What's happening? It's really hot in my room and I tried to take my shirt off, but I couldn't because I have my glasses and my headphones on.
00:33:30
Speaker
It's really hot in here. 73 degrees. I'm sweating buckets. Oh, 73 degrees. I feel so bad for you. Yeah, but I'm having a hot flash at the same time. but My life is a hot flash, Tucker. My whole life is one big hot flash.
00:33:54
Speaker
Thank you. I'll be here for at least another hour.
00:34:02
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chances are. um But yeah, should we should we get into the plot of Beetlejuice? Does everyone know the plot of Beetlejuice? Do we need to get into the plot of Beetlejuice? I don't think we do. But you know, oh, we're gonna skip it, you guys. and I got that I and and just got the official disenfranchised egg timer.
00:34:23
Speaker
I mean, look at that. We shouldn't skip it. we Have we skipped one before? We've never skipped one before, have we? Oh, here's the thing. This is a movie we've covered before. We we actually have yeah it's true we have. And also, Stephen, you make a good point. This is this is new territory. Like we've already covered this movie. We have have to do the plot in 60 if we don't want to.
00:34:45
Speaker
See our previous episode on Beetlejuice, I guess. Unless we make Tucker do it. That's the difference. I was going to say that would that would because you and I had our shot at it. Tucker is the only one who hasn't had a shot at the plot on this one. So here's the thing. Tucker, if you want to do it, we'll do it. If not, we'll skip it. Look, I want to do it. But my whole plan while one of you guys was doing it. Well, oh, Kitty, was that um I was going to go go to the bathroom.
00:35:14
Speaker
I was going to go get something to drink because all that's in my fridge that's in my room here is beer. But I already had a little Irish cream in my coffee, so I just can't do any more alcohol before work. Good one. ah It's true. I'm going to get something to drink. I'll be right back. OK, I'm also going to get something to drink. Brett, you should go get something to drink. I already have something to drink. Oh, you should get something else to drink.
00:35:44
Speaker
All right. Sure. I'll be right back. Five minutes later. Brad, if we talk, we should keep our voices really low so that I'll know where the editing points are visually. OK. And I'll put in a Spongebobby five minutes later. Hi, Kitty. Kitty, come here. Jump in that microphone and transfer yourself to my house. Come back. Kitty, come back. Kitty, come back.
00:36:14
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Etc. You can blame it on me. Yeah, dude.
00:36:22
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Wowser's kitty. Dang it. Oh, oh, he loves you. Oh, my God. He said he said, Boop, father. He does that a lot. He does that a lot. Then he just stares at me. Look at me, father.
00:36:43
Speaker
Oh, I'm going to pet that cat. Oh, I'm going to pet that cat, Brett. I'm going to bring you that CRT this Christmas. I'm going to take it all the way to your damn house and I'm going to come inside of your house and pet your cat. And that's the that we're going to start right there when I edit back to where we are. I have been inside of Brett's house and pet his cats.
00:37:10
Speaker
Where?
00:37:12
Speaker
That's the thing I've done. You just haven't had the opportunity yet. like i I just moved in. You haven't been you haven't been in town. I was going to say, yeah have you been to Indy since he's moved? Because I don't know that you have. no so You just haven't had the opportunity. that's my I've had a few opportunities. You bastard. Anyway, that was the plot of Beetlejuice.
00:37:35
Speaker
You missed it. Were you paying close enough attention listener? I bet you weren't. We we weaved it in there. It's like every third word. Are you watching closely? If you play this backwards, it'll just sound like this backwards. And that is all. Unless I say re cut, re cut, re cut. That's Tucker backwards. So they play it backwards. I'll be going tacker, tacker, tacker. And it'll be really cool.
00:38:06
Speaker
Remember that remember that time when Tucker turned into the man from another place? No, no, no, it is a language. It's English. Only backwards. Give us time. Let her die. Yeah. So anyway, Beetlejuice is really good, you guys. You guys heard about this? You seen this? Fantastic. And a lot of people are saying a lot of people are saying it.
00:38:35
Speaker
I hear it all the time. Tired of hearing it, quite frankly. Yeah. No, I mean, it's talking about this Beetlejuice guy. He's real funny. He's dead. They say he's dead. I don't know how he's dead and he's alive. I don't get it. How did he die? I don't know. He doesn't say where's his death certificate. I'd like to see it. Well, kitty cat ears, you guys. I'm in love with Brett's cat. It's true.
00:39:05
Speaker
Yeah. So, yeah, Beetlejuice is really good. Everybody loves it. Let's talk about Robert Goulet. Yeah, just Robert. um I am kind of impressed at the like the small roles in this movie, because we've got a lot of non actors in this movie, like Robert Goulet and that art lady. Dick Cavett as well in this movie, who is like a TV host, if I'm not mistaken.
00:39:35
Speaker
Yeah, like and the gal at the party that comes with Delia's agent, the art gal with her lips like this, like this this all the time. um She's not an actor. She's actually an art person like ah in that kind of art world for really real. Oh, OK. Yeah, dude. Interesting. Not actors. I did not know that.
00:40:03
Speaker
Yeah, I mean it and that but that speaks to I think Burton's. um I think that speaks to his influences. He's always been the kind of guy to like put people he's fascinated with into his movies, whether they're performers or actors or not. like He does the same thing um with ah in Ed Wood. like He's got like just random people that he's got. Kind of like Ed Wood, it's kind of easy to see that direct line between Ed Wood and Tim Burton. Tim Burton's just equally weird, just more successful, really.
00:40:39
Speaker
actually a good filmmaker. Yes. Has the capacity to be a good filmmaker. That de it has he's shown us that he can phone it in for sure. But he's not not on this movie. Not on this movie and not on Pee Wee's Big Adventure. If I'm honest, another reason why I'm kind of worried about this is that it's been a while since Burton's really had a hit.
00:41:03
Speaker
That's true, but if you have been paying attention to the press for this film, he's been talking a lot about- Which you apparently have. I think we all have, but then again, you know what? When it gets on a streaming service, some article on my newsfeed will be like, Netflix quietly releases the biggest supernatural comedy of last year. Because they apparently quietly release everything now, no matter how fucking loud it is. They're always quietly releasing shit.
00:41:30
Speaker
Because they don't fucking advertise anything. No, they do, and I know about it, and it pisses me off. It's a buzzword. It doesn't mean anything. It's like, you know how people say literally, literally every other littleteral literal second now? That word has lost all its meaning. It means nothing. Literally nothing. See what I did there? It didn't mean shit in that sentence. It just punched up that last word. It's the same thing, man. It doesn't mean anything anymore.
00:41:57
Speaker
quietly released that just means something just put it out it just everything's quiet now I wouldn't be surprised if there was an article somewhere that said Marvel just quietly released one of the best crossovers in MCU history you know the movie that's at like 2 billion right now I would not be surprised just saying it was obvious things quietly released they quietly were just released a sequel to Beetlejuice you know that so very quietly rant over Thank you, Tucker, for explaining the function of adverbs. I'm OK. Old man yells at cloud. Right. At several clouds at once. Yells at the idea of the very cloud, at the audacity of it to be there. Although they definitely not release it in this mode, this sequel quietly. there's i'd like I don't know.
00:42:51
Speaker
Why like I feel this is why I'm somewhat worried about the sequel is it like it's got like brand deals with like Denny's and Fanta and like ah Like it's everywhere. Mm-hmm. It feels antithetical To be legit like it doesn't feel right That is corporate a little bit And it's making me a little worried like they're going too hard. Just you see the trailer. I Mean, yeah, I've seen all the trailers What I just saw the first one. Based on that, what you think? Cautiously optimistic. Yeah, me too, because there seem to be in the trailers, they seem to be a lot of exact callbacks to moments in the original film, but then all the press, everybody's talking about how they don't do that. In the movie, so maybe they just put all that in the trailer to get people back. I hope it's very possible, because like if if if Beetlejuice is only in this movie for 17 minutes, like he was in the original.
00:43:52
Speaker
Um, all the trailers are full of nothing but him. Uh, have we seen most of him in the movie already? That's what I'm worried about. I'm just saying, I don't need this to be, um, and this is a film I enjoyed to a certain extent. We don't need Beetlejuice afterlife is what I'm saying. I don't want Beetlejuice afterlife. I want a lot of new ideas with these old characters.
00:44:19
Speaker
I don't want just repeated jokes and callbacks and bringing things back and no man let's just move on and let's do something that's now that's happening now like you think these motherfuckers can remember every beat they
Speculative Crossovers with Ghostbusters
00:44:32
Speaker
don't watch it like the characters in these movies they don't watch that in an hour and a half increment like every couple months they have it as a memory they're not gonna repeat the same shit it wouldn't make sense but then again does anything make sense in a Beetlejuice movie not really but anyway I'm ahead of myself on that one yeah But yeah, I'm hoping that there's not a lot of, ah I guess, what you would call fanservice. Another word that doesn't mean exactly what it used to.
00:44:59
Speaker
i I think that's the trap of a lot of legacy equals, which is why I tend to be so pessimistic to legacy equals is they tend to just be fan service for its own sake, which I don't like. I'm not a fan of that. um I want if you're going to continue the story, I want you to do something new with it, not just keep hitting the same old beats over and over. Exactly. And I'm, I'm not I'm not against fan service, but I'm against fan service for idiots, which is like, I'm beating you over the head with this thing we did in the other one, as opposed to some subtle nod in the background. Something that you just kind of, that's not, you know, out there, not front and center, just something you're like, oh, oh, did you notice that? Maybe. I don't know.
00:45:51
Speaker
Yeah, sorry Brett. you're saying you saying So i I have what might be a shocking take. um Brace yourselves for this. That is one of the reasons I kind of didn't care for Frozen Empire as much as I probably should have because afterlife was great. it's you know It's the legacy sequel. I appreciated all the callbacks. The movie is dripping with it, and I loved every second of it. But like you can't just come back in the very next movie and just kind of do the same thing. like yeah there What endeared me and made me love Afterlife so much
00:46:30
Speaker
made me kinda not like Frozen Empire as much. Like, okay, you've done the legacy sequel with all the fanservice, now move on and tell a new story. Which they did, sort of. But, like, you could tell that that movie was cut to shit in the editing room. Like, it just didn yeah felt disjointed and not coherent. And, I mean, you know, my girlfriend and I discussing the movie afterwards, like, had a lot of questions. Like, this didn't make sense. That didn't make sense. Like, that's not how I walk away from a Ghostbusters movie, you know? There's a lot of leaps of logic in Frozen Empire, but
00:47:11
Speaker
Unlike this movie, it's not a good enough movie for me to look past it. I didn't I didn't dislike Frozen Empire. It's my least favorite Ghostbusters movie. But damn, I still had a good time and it still felt like a Ghostbusters movie. That's why every Ghostbusters movie that had that exists right now, including the remake, their the reboot or whatever. They're they're all good with me because no matter how good or bad they are, they all feel like Ghostbusters movie. They have that.
00:47:39
Speaker
They have that core, like that that feeling of a Ghostbusters movie. So as long as they keep, keep like keeping the tone and and the voice of the piece intact, I'll keep watching them and enjoying them at varying levels. But also- I wouldn't agree with that point for 2016, but the rest of them, you're right. You're correct. Word. Word. But anyway, hopefully the sequel to Beetlejuice is more afterlife than it is Frozen Empire.
00:48:08
Speaker
Didn't the Ghostbusters straight up chase Beetlejuice at Universal Studios and they used to chase him around? Mm hmm. Crossover. Yeah. Let's do it. The crossover through crossover movie. I don't think it happened. in It didn't happen in the Ghostbusters live show. But when the characters were walking around the park, they would interact with one another on a regular basis. So yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:48:31
Speaker
He would fit right into the Ghostbusters universe, though, because, like, all the ghosts in Ghostbusters aren't just like people. They're like weird monster guys. And even though Beetlejuice is humanoid, he is a weird monster guy, too. He would fit. um Let's do a comic
Media Industry Dynamics and Unreleased Projects
00:48:51
Speaker
crossover, see if we can get somebody on that. IDW, what you doing?
00:48:55
Speaker
So something the Ghostbusters subreddit likes to do all the time is take a fictional ghost or whatever deity and try to classify it. I think like Beetlejuice is like class five. I forget what it's called, but like he's a, he's on the level of a God. Like Beetlejuice is on the level of like Vigo or Gozer. Like he's that powerful cause he's been around for so long. Well, Brett, there are many benefits to being the mother of a living God.
00:49:30
Speaker
That's true. Steven Foxworthy smiling politely.
00:49:37
Speaker
Command me, Lord. A child? A child. Oh, but I woo. Everything you're doing is bad. I want you to do this. And Beetlejuice.
00:49:54
Speaker
Anyway, like we've got our Ghostbusters 2 quoting out of the way for the episode. Yeah. oh Glad we got that out of the way. Woof. Here's the thing. With you guys, I can never tell when it's over. In 10 minutes, you'll probably be doing it again. And you won't even notice. I'm just smiling politely.
00:50:13
Speaker
beless Yeah, seamless. That's the word for what we just did. Yeah, I love those transitions. Yeah. um But no, Beetlejuice versus Ghostbusters, that's a ah that's a that's a crossover. I wouldn't mind saying that would be fun. I mean, I guess they're both if the movie franchises are back, baby. It could happen in real life. So.
00:50:44
Speaker
Well, I was going to say Sony has Ghostbusters and Warner Brothers has Beetlejuice. So I I don't I that crossover seems unlikely. No, like that's Marvel, but not impossible. Not impossible. Well, Marvel Marvel did it by being owned by Disney and Disney buying out an entire studio. So big studios work together all the time where like, ah for example, you might have like a Paramount Universal movie where one will make the film and the other one will distribute it for one reason or another. There are a lot of films that are that are made by two very large companies, not just like a small company that the large company owns. But once you start sharing IP. Even with Marvel, though, man, you've got the Spider-Man movies in the MCU. It's something that happens nowadays. I'm just saying it's not impossible. Improbable? Yes. Impossible? No. but
00:51:39
Speaker
But see the Spider-Man one is a direct result of the Sony email leaks. Like that's how that deal came out is because the Spider-Man franchise was pretty much effectively dead at that point. And then it took that those email leaks and the the realization that Feige had been trying to make something happen to push public perception away from Andrew Garfield and in this completely brand new direction. Like the whole thing fell apart because of an email hack. Like I i doubt that would happen for another studio to be able to push that through. And Warner Brothers is more keen to cancel a movie that's already been made than actually, you know, release it and work with another studio to make something good. Now, so that I will agree with you on, Steven, because this new fellow that took over Warner Brothers can, if I may, he can suck a fuck.
00:52:33
Speaker
Oh yeah. Straight up stuck a fuck. For sure. Fuck that motherfucker. Many of them for all I care. Yeah. o I hate that when big business boys come in and they're like, I'll give a shit about art. This is costing me money. That's costing me money. Nothing's going to cost me money. Fuck you. And then like when, when the, when a prime video.
00:52:52
Speaker
changed like Management or whatever and they canceled like all their shows including the motherfucking tick including motherfucking Jean-Claude Van Johnson Stuff that was doing well that was good, but they were like no we're starting over everything but Bosch. Yeah. oh I think look, I understand that art is business. It has to be business because artists have to make money. and And the companies that are funding this art, they have to make money too. I get that and I empathize with that. But damn it, do you have to be so greedy?
00:53:29
Speaker
I think that to be i think to be in the decision making, business decision making of any sort of media group like Disney or Warner Brothers or something like that, you should have to also be an artist and not a demon piece of shit person.
00:53:49
Speaker
So two very tough qualifications right there for Hollywood. You know, it's funny as to give it sort of a contract. Michael Keaton recently said in an interview, uh, were you upset that Batgirl got canned? No, man, I got that paycheck. Yeah. Yeah, dude. Which I mean, it, I mean, that's, that's the Harrison Ford answer. Really? Like, did you get nostalgic, you know, putting the clothes? No, I got paid. Like, what the fuck do you want from me? Like, I would also argue that it's different for the person who is the subject of that nostalgia than it is for the people who are nostalgic about it.
00:54:24
Speaker
Like I don't think if I were an actor, no matter what character I played that was important to me, I couldn't be into that. Like I couldn't be into it like I could if I weren't the person playing it. I feel like I'd have that same attitude where it's like, yeah, I get why everybody fucking loves it and everything. But I just it was Tuesday for me. And yeah I went in, I got out, I got my payday and now I'm hanging out with my family out here in my third house.
00:54:51
Speaker
Right. I mean, I've not seen the movie, but by all accounts, it's pretty terrible. But I have seen the house it bought. And by all accounts, it's pretty lovely. Yeah, Michael. The paraphrase Michael Caine. Right. The size of a tangerine.
00:55:04
Speaker
Sorry, go ahead. No, I just no, I mean, I agree. there Look, art and capitalism, it's it's a ah really fucking deadly combination. But it's the fucking world we live in. What are you going to do? um There's and you can't do it any any other way, honestly.
00:55:21
Speaker
there was there's some there's a There's a Looney Tunes movie that we'll never be able to see. There's a Batgirl movie that we'll never be able to see. There's a Scooby-Doo sequel that we'll never be able to see because they've all been subscribed as tax write-offs and they will never be released publicly. And that's kind of a tragedy. and because they can't be a lot of people don't understand this. But when they when they do a write off, the IRS is like, well, you know, you can never make money off that, right? Like never like you will go. Why will we will come up? All our IRS people will come up and take you all to jail if you sell a copy of this movie. So like it's not only does it not get distributed and it gets a write off, we're never, ever, ever
00:56:06
Speaker
Ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever gonna see any of those movies. Ever. Right, which is the reason we can cover Scoob on this podcast now, because that was meant to kick off a whole Hanna-Barbera franchise. They made a sequel to it, and they wrote it off. So we can cover Scoob now. Yay. Let's get into this again. Unless I have one day of unique on the internet, I imagine we might see at least one of those movies leaked illegally onto the internet. I would not be surprised. I will agree with that. That would be a good idea. My guess is it would probably be Batgirl. Probably. But yeah. We can only hope.
00:56:40
Speaker
um You guys, um do you think that I should we should take a write off for those? What are we watching episodes that I still haven't put out? Yes. Should we write? Does the IRS care about those? and I might call them because I got some back episodes. I haven't got to get
Podcasting Reflections and Audience Engagement
00:56:58
Speaker
to them. They're not relevant anymore. Can I just I spent time and money on them? Can I get some of that back? They'd be like, wait, are you a ah billion dollar company that influences ah the entire politics of the United States. I'll be like, no. And they'll be like that and die. And then Brett will be like, Tucker, if somebody asked you if you're a multibillion dollar corporation that influences the entire United States political system, you say yes. What I tell you, 10 fucking minutes, almost on the dot.
00:57:34
Speaker
Now, hold on. That was a Ghostbusters 1 quote. OK. OK, pedant. And I changed it to fit what I was doing, so it was more of a remix than a direct quote. That's true. Got him. Straight up. Mentally on the wall there. Wait, actually, that's a. There we go. Yeah. I could I'm the only one who can see that whiteboard. It's invisible.
00:58:05
Speaker
That's why I'm wearing my glasses today, because that's how I see it. Anyway, Ben, Beetlejuice is a good old movie. Tucker wants to talk Robert Goulet. So Tucker, tell us tell tell us why you want to talk about Robert Goulet. About a half hour later, we're back to what he originally wanted to talk about. her I think he just wants to do his impression of Will Ferrell's impression of Robert Goulet. It's all just Will Ferrell, yeah. That's every time I watch Beetlejuice now, I'm like, hey, that's that guy.
00:58:31
Speaker
and That's one of the few Will Ferrell bits that ah kind of stands the test of time. Because I've found that as funny as Will Ferrell is and has been, um his humor doesn't really age well, most of it. For me, at least. i I've gone back and watched some of the SNL episodes from that era and not a fan, got to say. He's good at it. He's very good at what he does. But what he does isn't always going to be funny. And I feel like we've We've hit that point for a lot of that stuff. Yeah. I feel like there are a couple of Will Ferrell movies I really like. And beyond that, I could take or leave him. Yeah, for sure. We love you, Will Ferrell. It's Elephant, it's Anchorman for me. But yeah, see our previous episode on Elf. Yeah, I didn't like Elf. I thought that movie kind of sucked. That's fine.
00:59:23
Speaker
That's fine. You're allowed health seems to be a very polarizing movie. Yeah. it So it would seem you either like it or you don't. It's kind of how it falls. I like it. I enjoy it. Yeah. I think it's funny. See our previous episode on now for Brett and I both i really enjoy that movie. Was I on that one? ah No, that was well before your time. I did watch it. I remember watching it because you guys were covering it, though.
00:59:49
Speaker
OK. And i I did not want to watch it. I was like, yeah, I'm going to fucking hate this. That's just the reason why I have not watched this is because I know I'm going to fucking hate it. And then I watched it and it was over and I was like, told you to myself. and that was And that was it. Yeah, I was like, yeah, I fucking hated that. That was awful. One thing I am really bummed about the the sequel is where is Otho is not going to show back up in the sequel because Glenn Shattucks has sadly passed away. That does suck.
01:00:18
Speaker
I...Otho is He's one of the Burton, like, main cast. Like, he's one of the guys that follows. He is. And I mean, he's in Nightmare Before Christmas. This is his first Burton collaboration and his third movie overall. He's in The Postman, always rings twice.
01:00:42
Speaker
and Student Exchange, also one episode of The Golden Girls, where he plays musician. And then this is his fourth IMDB credits. He plays Fatty Arbuckle later that later in 88 in the movie Sunset. And then he plays Father Ripper in Heathers as well. Also in Nancy-Dude. Yes, dude, he does. I love my ditty, son. Anybody know Heathers? All right, sorry.
01:01:08
Speaker
I watched the first half of Heathers. I have not seen Heathers in its entirety. I love Heathers. I love the musical. Have you seen the musical? I've not. The musical's also really good. The musical's also really good. But yeah, so he shows up here. He's in Nightmare Before Christmas, which Burton, of course, produced and wrote, but did not direct. Henry Selick directed that movie. I want to say.
01:01:32
Speaker
I feel like he was in more of Burton stuff, but I'm looking over his career right now. And no, he's really not. um He's not in Ed Wood. What? He's not. he's He is in Planet of the Apes, CRF episode on Planet of the Apes, the 2001 Planet of the Apes. And I think that was may have been his last Burton collaboration.
01:01:57
Speaker
um Cause yeah, he's not in, he seems like he would have been in Sleepy Hollow. He was not in Sleepy Hollow. um Did voice acting for a good long while too. But yeah, he plays the the senator orangutan married to Lisa Marie um in that movie.
01:02:18
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And he returns he returns for the the Nightmare Before Christmas video game, Oogie's Revenge. and also several Kingdom Hearts games as the mayor of Halloween Town. So oh obviously, yeah, they do. be They do be in those Kingdom Hearts games because, you know, but when they first made Nightmare Before Christmas, Disney was like, oh, no, you can't put this with Disney in front of this got to be touchstone. But as soon as it was successful, they were like, ah, ah no, the no, it's Disney. You guys just imagine. Look at how magical.
01:02:53
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We didn't tell you you did that on your own. This is just not touch. Don't get out. Put the Disney on there. Put it in the clam shell instead of the sleeve. Come on. What's Disney saw as the income from Hot Topic? They're like, wait. Right. and what Where is this coming from? Sally's a Disney princess now.
01:03:10
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And it's funny that people point to like. Nightmare Before Christmas is the quintessential hot topic, like movie. Whereas I think this movie is the activator for the kids that would grow up to be the Nightmare Before Christmas kids. Because Lydia Deets is like agree the touchstone for every like Gen X goth kid. And not even just... He just walked so Nightmare Before Christmas could run. 100%. And not just goth girls either. Like I think Lydia Deets speaks to a whole generation of
01:03:44
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Not like the other girls. Right. I am not like the other girls. Right. Pretty much. And I mean, weirdly, Heather's is part of that, too. Like you've got kind of that one known a writer one to punch in 88 of Beetlejuice and Heather's that kind of. Like leads to her being like the the OG alt girl. Really? Yeah, dude.
01:04:13
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yeah and speaking of Heather's and speaking of the press for this film, ah there was an article I read the other day with an interview with Winona Ryder, and she said that someone asked her if there were any other ah movies that she had done before that she'd want to do a legacy sequel to. And she said, Heather's Heather's is the only one that she would want to do. I don't know what that would be.
01:04:34
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but yeah I don't know how you do a sequel to Heathers, but i I'd be there for it though. I would. mean But here's the thing, that some Hollywood screenwriter heard her say that and is like, ooh!
01:04:45
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Yeah, we can do that. Let's make that movie. it's It's so weird that that movie is such a cult classic because it's such a it's just such a mean-spirited movie in a way that I like. Normally I don't like stuff that's mean-spirited, but a certain kind of comedy that's mean-spirited I can get behind. um But Heathers was so successful in a cult classic way, but nobody ever talks about very bad things. And I feel like
Anticipation and Concerns for Beetlejuice Sequel
01:05:09
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they're very similar in their tone, you know?
01:05:13
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I mean, I think that's the Peter Berg of it all. But yeah, yeah, like I'll never understand that how Heather's is a cult classic. And I mean, both of them have your boy Christian Slater in them. So and again, they made a musical out of Heather's. So like, that's yeah where's my very bad things musical. Give me Daniel Stern. I certainly hope they don't give Heather's the Mean Girls treatment and like do a remake movie.
01:05:41
Speaker
That's the musical. But it's the musical. And then we don't tell anybody it's the musical. Don't tell anybody it's the musical. So you can see it. Yeah. Then you're stuck. You already paid for it. Bitch, gotcha. Yeah, exactly. That's it. You know, I want to make I want to make a remake of something and turn it into a musical. And one of the beats in the film will be when you realize that it's a musical. The film stops and like cuts away. And then me as the director goes. Gotcha.
01:06:10
Speaker
and then it just continues after that. Bitch, I already got your money. I got your money. I love that you took your glasses off to sell that bit to two of us. Well, my nose is so sweaty because it's so hot in here and I'm having like almost hot flash after hot flash. I just kind of needed to get some air on my nose anyway. You know what you need, a high powered fan pointed directly at your microphone.
01:06:34
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to create like some great ambience in your now. Dude, you guys, I'm doing i'm not kidding. Medium sized desk fan that doesn't make any noise at all, but also works. Yeah, but you're not as cool as Steven is. Like you're not getting the the cool air that Steven is. And ah what you're alluding to, Steven, is in the group chat when I was editing last episode, I was talking about how Steven's audio track when he's not speaking would be a perfect ASMR video on YouTube.
01:07:03
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And I am going to make that and not like for jokes and not for LOLs, but because if you take all of Steven's but like speech out of his audio from last episode, you just have kind of, you have this.
01:07:18
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like kind of white noise of a fan in the background. And then you'll hear like clitty clack, clitty clack on his keyboard and then click, click, like click, click, click, click on his mouse. And then like, um every once in a while. And it's just like, it's like working with like, like sharing an office with someone. Like if you're lonely while you're working at home, put on Steven, he'll work with you.
01:07:39
Speaker
ready It's gonna, I'm gonna do it, you guys. brilliant It's the double edged sword of that. is the fact that if I was actually your coworker, you would get way more like weird movie, like trivia talk than you would ever possibly want. That's why it's perfect, Steven. I said I was gonna take all of your dialogue out. That's why it's perfect. But then it wouldn't be an authentic experience, Tucker. Well, I don't i don't specialize in authentic experiences. I'm into make and pretend.
01:08:14
Speaker
as Brett can attest, because Brett has worked with me before. That is how we met. That is how this podcast got started, is that Brett and I were in the same department for several years. And Brett just didn't have the heart to be like, shut up, man. Correct. And so here we are. Brett was Brett was too meek to tell me to shut the fuck up and get the fuck out. there was There's plenty of our coworkers that did, but I didn't. Correct. Correct.
01:08:45
Speaker
There was much rejoicing when I left that department. I amplified it and that was part of the problem. Yeah, you sure did. Not everyone appreciates what I bring to the table, and that's fine. It's probably the reason why this podcast is not more popular than it should be. There you go. You guys, look, I don't know if you guys know this, but we get on average between 50 and 70 listeners via podcatchers and on average between 50 and 300 listeners on YouTube every episode. Damn.
01:09:17
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And that's enough for me. I don't, I mean, it would be cool if thousands of people listened did it did to me or millions of people, but just like to have like an average of between 50 and a hundred people every week.
01:09:30
Speaker
I'd never imagined there were that many people who would wanna listen to me talk. Like I can barely stand listening to myself talk most of the time. Like it i'm I'm very happy with those numbers. Very happy with those numbers. I also have a hard time listening to you talk, yeah. um Yeah, I'm kidding. Especially considering that like, I mean, we've talked about the movie we're discussing on this episode for maybe 20 minutes. Right. We've talked about literally everything else.
01:09:58
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But I mean, we've we've talked about a lot of things connected to this movie, but yeah. we Look, Brett, we recorded a whole last episode on Beetlejuice four years ago. oh True, yeah. You're right. If you want to hear more discussion about this movie, then go listen to the old episode. Not only do I not have really anything to add, um but what do you what can you say about Beetlejuice? This is kind of like the exact same issue we have with really bad movies that we don't want to talk about. But it's the opposite problem.
01:10:28
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like And there's a lot to say, but it's all been said and pretty much everybody agrees. So you're always nice with this movie, you're just preaching to the choir 100% 24 hours a day, seven days a week preaching to the choir. So yeah, that's why I think an episode like this is tangent heavy for sure. Yeah. People are tuning into this episode.
01:10:48
Speaker
At this point, I mean, my assumption is that the true fans of the show have gone back and listened to our entire back catalog. And if you haven't, then can you call yourself a true fan? um So they they already know what we think about Beetlejuice. They're just here for the vibes. We do be having those. The vibes are immaculate on this podcast, I will say. We do be vibing.
01:11:12
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But yeah, I mean, my my big concern I will say my big concern about the sequel is the amount of Beetlejuice, because I know the temptation in the Legacy sequel is to give the people what they want ramped up to 11. So I guess my the the idea that there would be more than ah a smattering of Beetlejuice was a concern for me. Hearing you say that Keaton himself has said he's barely in the movie.
01:11:37
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I like that. I want that. That's what I want from the Beetlejuice movie. My other fear is that they're just going to do the same thing again, but with Jenna Ortega as the Winona Ryder stand in. That's my other fear. Well, so and that and that may be, I mean, I understand why you haven't watched any more of the trailers beyond the first one, but maybe
01:12:00
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ah Watching the other trailers, I can tell you that doesn't that's not the case. okay it It seems to me that, at the very least, he's come back to try to marry Lydia again with her daughter, because that's a little weird. Very. I mean, it's it's fucking weird in the first one. How old was Winona Ryder in this movie, like when she made this movie? 15. Yeah, see, that's weird.
01:12:27
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well It was the eighties. Whoa, whoa, that's weird. Wait, this is I mean, what's happening here? Wait a second. So I was looking up because we keep referencing that Michael Keaton had said that his screen time is the same. And so I was looking for an article on that so I could send it to Stephen so he could stop acting like it were a hypothetical.
01:12:47
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and I stumbled across this review from the BBC that the headline is Beetlejuice Beetlejuice Review Tim Burton's sequel surpasses the original in almost every respect like there's no way right I mean it could be good I could I can imagine this movie could be good and I could like it but there's no way that it surpasses the original in almost every way like who David Geffen are you paying the BBC Maybe if you hate the original, I mean, if you hate the original, sure, I can see where you'd go there, but. Yeah, I guess we would have to know that guy's opinion of the original movie. I mean, I think it's there in the headline, frankly. I mean, it feels fairly evident to me. um But no, I mean, I like, and I think another another reason I think this movie, the the sequel to this movie gets made is the fact that
01:13:45
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all the like the the big players that are returning have kind of been on a hot streak within the last several years. You've got Michael Keaton kind of on his upswing since, and yes, I know he's been working on shit, but it's shit no one was watching until Birdman. Then he does Birdman Spotlight, the founder in fairly quick succession, Spider-Man Homecoming. You get Winona Ryder's kind of big pushback in Stranger Things. You get Catherine O'Hara in Schitt's Creek becoming like,
01:14:13
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a walking talking meme for that show. Like all three of them are incredibly hot right now and it feels like the perfect storm to get a sequel to Beetlejuice Greenlit and Maid. Particularly then combined with the wave of nostalgia pouring out from you know, all the all the 80s shit coming back, like, like Ghostbusters, like, you know, all that all that 80s shit getting greenlit again, Transformers coming back in a big way. And so that kind of leads us to think, well, yeah, we could keep making Beetlejuice movies that that sounds like something we could do. And so this movie gets greenlit, you bring all those people back and that's automatic butts in seats, because all those people are really hot right now.
01:14:55
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Well yeah, well then you you sprinkle a little Genoa Ortega on top who was also incredibly popular right now. And then you got here you got some pretty fantastic stugo in which to to maybe assuage your fears about the story of this movie a little bit more. um In interviews they've sort of discussed how like this is, this I don't know if you want to say it this way, maybe it's a little cringy to say it this way, but is Timbren's love letter to like women, like the dynamic between the three characters, like, you know, the grandmother, the daughter and the granddaughter, like, it's a story about the three of them. Right.
01:15:35
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you know, women empowerment story, I guess is what they've said. but I mean, and if there's one person I want telling that story, it's Tim Burton, for sure. Well. But he's he didn't write it. I will say that. yeah There you go. That's all you need to know, really. The script is Alfred Goff and Miles miles Millar, ah written but with a story by Goff Millar and Seth Graham Green, who has written probably like seven different versions of the script. like He's been writing the script since, god, at least 2020, writing various permutations and versions of the script.
01:16:12
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um so I mean, I don't know. i I will watch the movie. Obviously, I have to. I'll be covering it on this podcast next week. But um yeah, i'm I'm kind of, ah I don't know. i i'm i'm I'm more cautious and less optimistic than the two of you, I guess, when it when it comes to this this sequel. But that's kind of me. I was the kind of that way with Scream. I was excited for Scream because I love those movies. I ultimately liked Five Cream. Didn't care so much for Scree IVI, but, you know,
01:16:46
Speaker
That's, that's another story for another day. Sure. And we all know about your notorious hatred of Ghostbusters afterlife. So sure. Which I'm sure I'll discuss.
Podcast Interactions and Social Media Engagement
01:17:01
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I can't wait. I like being in the middle on that one. They look, I warned him.
01:17:10
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You've been warned that if we discuss that again, it won't end well for you. We've accepted that. and I mean, here's the thing. you you also You also seem to think that I'm not going to show up just to troll you. So I... No, that's why it won't end well for you. I hope that you will have a... It'll end fine if you take it as a serious discussion and not troll me.
01:17:34
Speaker
I just, I'm not precious about Ghostbusters though. That's, and I know you guys can be. So we can have a simple last conversation about it. If you're not trolling. That's true. That's true. Trolling me. joel lori i' good stephen And you don't want me to get mean.
01:17:49
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yeah the You wouldn't like us exposing ourselves. Yeah. 15 minutes.
01:18:01
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Tucker, find what the fuck you were looking for. Yeah, we've been vamping for a while. No, I gave up. I gave up because it's getting kind of late. It's getting kind of late. Yeah, time to time to wrap it up. One thing we have not talked about yet, I love the soundtrack for this movie, the Calypso score, the Harry Belafonte of it all. Yeah.
01:18:27
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Oh yeah. I think it works so well because it's so detached from all the visuals and all the aesthetics of this thing. um I don't know, I fucking love it. like I love that yeah Harry Belafonte is basically the yeah the the soundtrack of this movie. like There's the Danny Elfman score and there's Harry Belafonte and that's it. And I fucking love that. And I hope we get some um Hope we get some Calypso for the sequel, too. I appreciate that the Danny Elfman score can be very noticeable when it needs to be and can hang out in the background when it needs to be. Danny Elfman's not always good at kind of raining himself back like that. There are some scores that he's done that are really, really good, but he didn't know when to just kind of put it behind what was going on. In this film, you get those sweeping Danny Elfman
01:19:27
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weirdness when you need it and then it's just a regular score when it needs to be when you're not really paying attention to it it's very subdued and i appreciate that Like Tim Burton, Danny Elfman, not someone really prone to subtlety. So it's nice to see it when it happens, for sure.
Soundtracks: Past vs. Present
01:19:46
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And I mean, I like Danny Elfman's scores, generally speaking. He's done some really good shit, and he's written some really iconic themes, obviously. But you know he can he can get a little up his own ass, kind of like Tim Burton, can get a little up his own ass.
01:20:03
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so You know, it's nice to be able to see people that do that kind of understand that there can be checks and we can rein it in a little bit and not be so over the top, so oppressively over the top. I know we're on the topic. Can I just mourn what seems to be the loss of the iconic movie soundtrack? They don't really seem to exist anymore.
01:20:29
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like I don't remember a lot of them anymore, like I do older films. They had they were more of a presence, I feel like, instead of just like a background thing. And they're not bad, because if they were bad, we would notice that. But nothing sticks out anymore. I feel like and i feel like a lot of that is is less of a reliance on like the light motif, which is something that um that John What's his name? Williams. That's fuck. John Williams kind of like pushed to the forefront with stuff like Star Wars and Jaws. And like, you know, every character has their theme, every character has their moment, every character in that, you know, kind of becomes the norm. And I think soundtracks are starting to lean away from that a little bit. But that leads away from like the recognizable
01:21:18
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score moments that we all like know and recognize and I think probably in some ways keeps us from connecting with with a piece of music like that. agree I mean, the only memorable piece of music that I can really think of in the past, I don't know, 20 years is the Avengers theme. And even that's not like, I don't have the same reference for it that I have for like,
01:21:41
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you know, the Beetlejuice score, the Ghostbusters score, Jaws. I want to say, like even though it's not a franchise that I particularly give a shit about, I think the last of theme from a score that really stuck out and grabbed people by the lips and yanked was Harry Potter. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That that tra I don't give two shits about Harry Potter's, but boy, I will never forget that theme. Never.
01:22:12
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yeah ne and But that's John Williams. That's leitmotif. That's that's you go yeah there's it's one of those scores that makes me think of Halloween for some reason, just because those movies came out around Halloween for a few years in a row there. Right. I know the third one.
01:22:29
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the Alfonso Cuaron one was a, that was a Halloween release. Cause they did the something with the what i like ums was like it's the good one. It's like the best one prisoner of Azkaban. Yes. That's the best one for sure. Again, best, best directed one for sure. Um, but yeah, that, that one's the best one for sure. I, no argument from me. Um, ah mystery and time fuckery and takes place in Halloween. It's great 10 out of 10.
01:22:58
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yeah Uh, Beetlejuice opens, uh, April 1st, 1988.
Beetlejuice's Box Office Success and Cultural Impact
01:23:08
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And, uh, opens at number one, opens at number one to $10.5 million dollars ah in second place down from number one the week before, uh, the Matthew Broderick, Neil Simon film, Biloxi Blues. Uh, where Matthew Broderick's in the army.
01:23:30
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Everybody remembers that one. o In third place, also new this week ah in a bit of counter programming, Bright Lights, Big City, the Michael J Fox, Jason Robards, Dion Weis, Kiefer Sutherland, David Hyde Pierce, Swoozie Kurtz film. Another one that everyone loves and is still talking about. Sure. Yeah.
01:23:52
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In speaking of Tim Burton in fourth place, a movie that he worked on during his brief tenure as a Disney animator, ah the re-release of The Fox and the Hound has been re-released for three weeks. Widely regarded as one of the worst Disney animated films, but yeah. and the the The film that led us to the Don Bluth Empire. We would not have the Don Bluth Empire without The Fox and the Hound. What about The Great Mouse Detective?
01:24:23
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i like that I mean, that was that's that's the last film before the Disney Renaissance is The Great Mouse Detective and the Sword in the Stone. Are these generally regard as not good Disney movies? There's basically everything between the Jungle Book and The Great Mouse Detective. Oh, no. Jungle Book and no, it what's the one right before Oliver and Company is kind of widely regarded as the dark ages of Disney animation. Oliver & Company is the second best fully animated Disney film of all time. Full stop. Billy Joel's in it for crying in the mud. Cheech Marin's in it for crying in the mud. What number one? Why should we worry? What's your number one? Why should we care? Robin Hood. You said Oliver & Company was the second best. Oh, Robin Hood. Also falls in that time frame.
01:25:17
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I cannot wait to edit this one because there's such a delay between all three of us. It's going to be so much fun.
01:25:26
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And you've been kind of cutting in and out for me the entire episode, so that's also fun. Yeah, well, I've got time. No, I don't do you anyway.
01:25:38
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in In fifth place this week is a Demi Moore, Michael Bean, John Heard, Jurgen Prochnau film, directed by Carl Schulz, called The Seventh Sign. Nobody gives a fuck. And rounding out the top 10, in sixth place we have Johnny B. Goode. In seventh, Good Morning, Vietnam. In eighth place, Police Academy Five, Assignment, Miami Beach.
01:26:07
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in ninth place, A New Life, and in 10th place, Walt Disney's DOA. Staring Dennis Quaid and Meg Ryan. Walt Disney dead on arrival. There you go. Beetlejuice opens to, we said 10.5 million, goes on to earn 74.5 million off of a budget of about 15 million, so a hit.
01:26:37
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um Not by today's metrics, but by 1988 metrics. Yes, absolutely a Fucking hit as we mentioned earlier spawned a very successful animated television show and toy line And also later a Broadway musical somehow question mark ah that I've heard is very fun Yeah, it's pretty good. At least I mean, I haven't been able to find it online anywhere There's apparently like a you know, one of those really good-looking Recordings of it, but I can't find it. I would love to Because I'd love to watch the whole thing same cuz I've definitely seen a ton of it on tiktok Yeah, and a couple of those numbers are catchy as hell. Mm-hmm the opening number the whole being dead thing. Oh being dead thing and that one guy plays Beetlejuice That's Alex Brightman. Yeah, he's in has been hotel, which is a fucking great show. Also Hell of a boss also a great show
01:27:34
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by that same animator in case you're familiar. It's their second series. Hasselblad is great. but if you If you like Hasbin Hotel, watch Hasselblad. Hasselblad is also really good.
01:27:46
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Is it on Amazon as well? I don't know what either of those things are. It's YouTube. YouTube, okay, right on. I forgot has been hotel, got an actual release on Amazon. Yeah, yeah. The Tomatometer score for Betelgis is 82%, certified fresh.
01:28:08
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And the tomata or the was the Tomatometer score, the critic's consensus, brilliantly bizarre and overflowing with ideas, Beetlejuice offers some of Michael Keaton's most deliciously manic work and creepy, funny, fun for the whole family. That's some alliteration right there. um The Metascore is a 71 based on generally favorable reviews from 19 critics. And the Letterbox score, Tucker, care to take a swing.
01:28:39
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It's just ah probably four point four and four point eight. Ooh, it's a three point eight. is I don't know why I ever doubted them to take one fucking thing seriously, letterbox. You can't take one movie seriously. Anyway.
01:28:59
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No. Hey, can I can I if I can jump in for just a second, um ah adjusted for inflation, the box office for Beetlejuice would today be one hundred forty three million three hundred thirty one thousand one hundred twelve dollars and fifty seven cents. OK. And I've marked that page because I didn't know there was an inflation calculator. ive I should
Humorous Debate on Podcast Episode Title
01:29:24
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have known. I just didn't know where it was. So let's bookmark that book, bookmarked.
01:29:30
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I already told my score for this is a four point four four point five. Brett, what about you? How do you rate Betelgeuse? I would rate Beatlegeuse five out of five. And Tucker. I mean, come on, it's a five. It's a I've said several times the perfect film. Perfect films can't be less than five. I mean, sure, they can. No, they can't.
01:29:57
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Not for your definition. and that can I mean, perfect movies or they can't be less than perfect anyway. Anyway, anyway, that's.
01:30:12
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We have fun. We we have something ah that is our episode on 1988's Beetlejuice. Stay tuned next week, because next week, all three of us are going to be back.
01:30:27
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that's the That's what I've been told anyway, to cover the sequel to Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice, in theaters, when does it when is the actual release the sixth? So in theaters now as of when you're listening to this episode. I hope it's Wednesday. If not in theaters tomorrow as of when you're listening to this episode. I don't understand why you're not believing me, I'm telling you. It's Wednesday, 7 p.m. Those are the first showings at 7 p.m.
01:30:57
Speaker
Hell yeah. It's officially released. So tune in next week to hear us talk about that, because that's the thing we're going to do. We're going to talk about Beetlejuice Beetlejuice. As is our solemn vow. As, look, this is the first time we've ever had to make good on that promise. And we just want to let you know we're serious about it. We're serious about doing that.
01:31:20
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You guys, I just realized this isn't a numbered episode.
Upcoming Episodes and Milestones
01:31:23
Speaker
It'll be like it'll be Redux one. We could call it zero zero six point two if you want. Hmm. Oh, actually, that's kind of cool. But aren't the straight ups count as regular episodes? The straight ups. This is this is this is a movie we've already covered. So, yeah, this is like this is like a like when we do the revisited.
01:31:46
Speaker
Yeah, but it's not a revisited because it's ah it's actually a new episode. I mean, like it is. is it Yeah. Right. Like technically we are revisiting the film. We are. But we're actually it. Yeah. So that's why we're calling it the Redux because we're going back. I like that.
01:32:03
Speaker
That's good. So this is will be our first episode of re-enfranchised. Right. Yeah. So this is disenfranchised redux number one, Beetlejuice. Next week is re-enfranchised number one, Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice. So there you go. That's two new shows we're giving you inside of two weeks. Next week. So re-enfranchised will be a numbered episode. And then the week after that is episode 200.
01:32:30
Speaker
ah So buckle up for that. We're going to try to get Brett back for that one too. Cause Brett, you were here, you were here at the beginning. I want you to be here at episode 200. I want, I want to experience this. I don't want to, I don't want to do this milestone without you, Brett. I thought you were about to say at the end and I'm like, wait a minute. What did you know? What did you know? 200th episode is our final episode. We're not doing anymore. Fuck all the stuff we had planned and all the people we said would be back. No, um, no, I want, I want you to be here for the milestones. I want you to be here for the big ones. Nuking the podcast.
01:33:01
Speaker
and And I mean, you were you were you were here with me at the beginning, man. I want you to be here with me for the for all the all the big moments that we have. So you're here for the first Redux. You're here for the first re-enfranchised. I want you to be here for 200 as well. the The fact that all of these are falling like in a row is kind of kismet, but yeah. And when people are gonna get used to having him around, then he's gonna be gone again. I mean, that that's on them.
01:33:29
Speaker
Look, you get a month of Brett, and that's more than any of us can hope for, honestly. A Brett theme month? That's the theme of this month. Brett. The theme is Brett. Hell yeah. yeah I'm into that. If we can get you back for the last episode of September 2, that would fucking rule. Because you're here for it you're here for three of the four already. we could we can what is What is our
01:33:54
Speaker
Oh, I mean, you might want to be back for that one. um' I've got to see if I can secure our guest for that one. But yeah, you can say it if you want to because I have a beep. You do have a bee and it's fun to use. That is true. ah And I kind of want to see because that is the week that comes out. So I would like to do the the.
01:34:19
Speaker
But we promised Kat Skully that she could be on for that episode. But she did just have a book come out. So that last sentence, Steven, is going to make no sense. And I'm so here for it. I'm going to beat the shit out of it. Ooh. Good. That's what I want. That's what I want. I'm so excited. I love using the beeps. But I have to make sure that that's copacetic with her, basically.
01:34:46
Speaker
Yeah, sure. Yeah. If we can make that work, I because the last time we tried to make something work with her, it didn't work. So she was a busy lady. She is. Yeah, she sure is. Like the street outside Stephen's apartment. Correct. and Look, you got a you got a three way intersection, a couple of blocks from a fire station in the city of Chicago. It's going to happen. Nor is our baby. Stephen was a broadcaster on the east side of Chicago.
01:35:16
Speaker
Now, now in the ASMR, you're at home working next to somebody who lives in a big city. It's the extra layer, extra layer. yeah just adding If we add more layers, I can just do more videos every time. There you go. mr Like an onion. And and speaking of which, Tucker, the one episode for the remaining in 2024 that we don't have scheduled is straight up number five. Spooky, straight up. Spooky, straight up.
01:35:44
Speaker
We need it. we You need to let me know what that is. i'm i' i gotta I gotta do some thinking on it. You guys should be thinking on it. Well hurry up because we we got a little over a month. Copy that. We've got like we've got like three more straight ups after that on the schedule. We don't have this one though. Copy that. and At any any rate, that is our second episode of Beetlejuice. We really fucking spoil you guys, let's be honest. Yeah, do we do we do we always put out stuff on the Patreon like we say we do? No, but we do fucking spoil you guys. ah Two episodes on Beetlejuice, let's see any other podcast, you two episodes on Beetlejuice. Damn it. But yeah, go listen to it.
01:36:28
Speaker
don't don't Don't quote us on that. um But also go go listen again to our previous episode on Beetlejuice. But yeah, that is the the episode on Beetlejuice. This has been the disenfranchised podcast. You can find us on various forms of social media at disenfranchpod. Sometimes I update those.
01:36:47
Speaker
Most of the time I don't. i Sorry, question mark. um But yeah, go find us there. Give us a follow there. um Also, you can shoot us an email, disenfranchpod at gmail dot.com. Follow us on Patreon, patreon dot.com slash disenfranchpod. For free, you can join and get access to every episode we put out and join the conversation. Leave a comment. Usually Tucker will respond. Sometimes I will. Brett, pretty much never.
01:37:12
Speaker
um But that's just how it happens. um And then also leave us a five-star rating and review. Oh yeah, for five dollars on the Patreon you get access to a ton of extra content, ah including episodes of Unenfranchised, Disenfranchised, Disenfranchised at the Movies, and the show we've probably done the most of that Tucker still has multiple episodes waiting to be published.
01:37:35
Speaker
um What are we watching? A show where we used to talk about what we were watching on a weekly basis, then we went to a biweekly basis, and now it's just a look whenever we fucking get to it basis. um But yeah, man we're all busy. I can guarantee you that there will be more, what are we watching after October 15th at the latest? That's the last day of the season. There you go. um Maybe before then.
01:38:05
Speaker
Leave us a five-star rating and review on ah Apple Podcasts or Spotify, wherever you get your podcasts, so we can find more listeners. I'm your host, Stephen Foxworthy. You can find me on some social medias at Chewie Walrus by my book. Check in, check out on Amazon in either physical or um digital release. Brett, where can we find you on social media?
01:38:27
Speaker
No, not really anywhere. Cool. Letterboxed counts, I guess. So yeah, thundertor I check Instagram. Sometimes I don't fucking know. Same username. So that's underscore bar. Like social media sucks. Get off that shit. Yeah. Tucker, what about you? Hi, it's me, Tucker. And you can find me at Instagram and YouTube and I say no nine. That's I C E N I.
01:38:54
Speaker
And e the number is here on the number nine. And also I'm on tuk mugs, tuk underscore mugs on the Instagrams. We did have a post last week and that was cool because that doesn't always happen. um And um I've got a post sitting in my inbox that I have to post up, so I have to punch up. So at any point, it's going to be another one dropping. It doesn't matter. Nobody gives a fuck, but I do. I love tuk mugs. So if you also love tuk mugs, I want to talk.
01:39:24
Speaker
Um, man, look at some mugs and you guys, I figured it, that's all my socials, by the way, but you guys, I figured out what my spooky thon, um, um, straight up is going to be. I don't know if you saw me just kind of crawling around my floor, looking at all of my DVDs and Blu-rays. You guys, this is what we're doing. This is what we're doing. I can't see that, but it looks, it looks fittingly spooky. The, yeah. Well, you wish. Nope.
01:39:53
Speaker
I'm not going to say it because. ha You're surprised to be surprised for all of us well for them. We won't even know. We won't even know what movie we're covering. I mean, we you do have that beep function that you're so fond of using. I do. But you know what else I have? And I am DB link in the chat. Oh, is that what that is? it Well, it's fitting because one of the actors is like the first episode that I I guess it on. Big part of that.
01:40:23
Speaker
Big part of that. Did you click the link? The Manchurian sandwich. Yeah, I got it right here. Okay. Got it. Yeah. Word. All right. Let's wrap this thing up. I got to try and eat something before I go to work. Absolutely. Well, hey, this has been the disenfranchised podcast. um I'm your host, Stephen Foxworthy, for my co-host Tucker and the great Brett Wright. Until next time.
01:40:51
Speaker
That is why I will not do two shows in one night. I won't. I won't do.