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209 - The Adventures of Rocky and Bullwinkle (2000)
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“We’re attached to the project.”
Monday was the 65th anniversary of the first episode of “The Adventures of Rocky and Bullwinkle and Friends” and we’re celebrating the second part of our two-part Rocky and Bullwinkle marathon by talking about this 2000 live-action/animation hybrid featuring one of the most iconic duos in the history of animation! Along the way, we discuss the highs and lows of this adaptation, the highs and lows of the Farrelly Brothers comedies, whatever happened to Piper Perabo, and a rousing point-counterpoint on the topic of Jason Alexander! All this and SO MUCH MORE! Be sure you don’t miss this one!
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Introduction to the Disenfranchised Podcast
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franchise right below will make us rich beyond our wildest dreams. And now for something you'll really like. The disenfranchised podcast. That podcast all about those franchises of one. Those films that fancy themselves full fledged franchises before falling flat on their face after the first film. I'm your host, Steven Foxworthy, and joining me, as always, the moose to my squirrel, it's Tucker. Hey, Tucker. Hi, Steven.
Bourbon Anecdote and Dark Humor
00:00:52
Speaker
wow During that introduction, you had a whole ass coughing fit and then took a shot. You had a journey. I had a bit of a cough before I took the shot. It's surprising that I didn't cough after because that's normally when I do it. Right. My body's not, my body hates the things that I do to it, ah specifically drinking liquor.
00:01:15
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It affects my gag reflex and for many years, um, I would take a shot and there would be a one in four chance that I would put it directly into my lungs because my gag reflex would go off and I'd go yeah right into my lungs. And Steven, I don't know if you've ever had an entire shot of bourbon in your lungs. No, I mercifully, I don't think I can say that I have. It's, it burns. I imagine. Also, you can't breathe.
00:01:44
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Right. And you're pretty sure you're never gonna breathe again. Correct. Oh, I'm never gonna breathe again. Like, I'm being silly right now, but it's one of the scariest experiences I've ever had. Oh, I believe that. Because you just suck it in.
00:01:58
Speaker
And then you can't do anything. You can't breathe in. You can't breathe out. You can't do anything. You're just burning. Yeah. And suffocating. There's liquid in your life. You're drowning. Drowning in bourbon. That's the kind of death you would experience with crucifixion, only with burning. Yeah. So if I ever get crucified, I should just inhale a shot.
00:02:21
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Well, that make you go quicker. Interestingly enough, they would offer like ah kind of a fermented vinegar as sort of ah something to kind of kill the pain ah because it was such an I mean, this is where the word excruciating comes from such a horrific, senseless way to, you know, kill someone. So there you go. It's pretty rough. And speaking of crucifixions.
Rocky and Bullwinkle 65th Anniversary Celebration
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hey It is week two of our celebration of the 65th anniversary of the greatest animated comedy duo maybe in the history of of television.
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Rocket J Squirrel and Bullwinkle Moose. That is to say, the adventures of Rocky and Bullwinkle turn 65 this very week, and we are celebrating as we are wont to do. we Last week we covered Boris and Natasha the Movie from 1992. This week Tucker, we are covering what?
00:03:20
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The Adventures of Rocky and Boweko from the year 2000. From the year 2000. Moments before everything changed. The New York skyline untouched.
00:03:38
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Humor, dark, but wholesome. We weren't. We're doing the the dark but wholesome again, okay. We weren't as traumatized as a society back then. I mean, we were we were about a year away, a year and a half away from being traumatized as a society for good. But yeah.
00:04:00
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Moments away. Moments and you can feel it in this movie, Stephen, Stephen, you can feel it. You're like, oh, shit, it's about to happen. I remember being this happy. That's fantastic.
00:04:12
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i feel I feel bad for these motherfuckers in like a year. Poor Keenan and Kale. Oh, my God. Jonathan Winters. Oh, Jonathan Winters. The three Jonathan Winters is that are in this movie. When he shows up the second time, I'm like, wait, he was already in this movie. Is he back? And then he's the guy at the airplane. You're like, wait a minute. When he shows up the third time, I'm like, OK, get what we're doing now. But it it seriously, it kind of took me out for a second. I was like, hold on a second.
00:04:43
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What the fuck are we doing here? like could we Could we just not afford another guy that we had to get Jonathan Winters to do it again? And then he shows up third time like, okay, nevermind. Forget about it. The only thing that would make it funnier is if somehow you find out that the three of them are all related, like they're all brothers or something. Oh, like ah like ah Father Guido and his twin in this movie. Yes.
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yeah yeah
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Okay, second let's get into the cast here, hold on. Live action animated film that ah that actor was in because he was Father Guido in Casper. Yes, Father Guido Sarducci. The name is Don Novello is the actor's name.
Behind the Scenes of Rocky and Bullwinkle
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Um, yeah, so, uh, we are talking about the, the 2000 live action animated adventure slapstick comedy film, the adventures of Rocky and Bullwinkle directed by res I'm sorry, des mackinoff, m-c-a-n-u-f-f mackinoff. See, I always thought the director's name was perfect for this movie because it almost sounds like a bad pun. it It does. But you can't place it. It's like uncanny valley. Like, like, you know, when you're dreaming, when you're asleep and and you try to read something and you can't really make out what the letters say. That's this. It really like wait a minute. And it's it's almost just as hard to say. It's just a joke. And
00:06:05
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ah So directed by Des McEnuffe written, do you know this Tucker? By Academy Award winning screenwriter Kenneth Lonergan. Yeah, it shows. and
00:06:23
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Stephen loves this movie. And starring June Foray, the immortal June Foray, Keith Scott, Robert De Niro, A Russo, Jason Alexander, Piper Parabow, Randy Quaid, Cal Mitchell, Kenan Thompson, David Allen Greer, John Polito, James Rebhorn, Carl Reiner, Jonathan Winters, Padgett Brewster, Janine Garofalo,
00:06:48
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There's John Goodman. There it is. I mean, David Glenn Greer. I've said him already. John Palito. Did do you say John Palito? Of course I fucking did. No, no, you didn't. Now, I haven't gotten to everybody because you keep interrupting me. Don Issello, Jeffrey Ross.
00:07:06
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Max Grodenchick, Taraji P.
00:07:12
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taraji p Henson, Norman Lloyd, fucking Norman Lloyd. yeah The man worked with Orson Welles in the Mercury Theater, dude yeah and he's in this movie. Doug Jones, Whoopi Goldberg, and Billy Crystal. What a cast. What a cast. What a picture.
00:07:33
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What a cast, and ah for some people, what a picture, but I've heard not very many, though I am one of them. I quite, quite enjoy this film, Steven. I'm not sad that you don't like it, but I did i did honestly think that you would appreciate it um a little more, but I'm not disappointed. I get it. there are That's not to say that this film is wholly unenjoyable, because it's not. There are things in this movie that I did legitimately enjoy.
00:08:02
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It's just that this movie is about a faded television character who decides to hatch a plot to become the despotic president of the United States by turning the entire country into mindless zombies using the media. And I watched it a week and a half after that happened in real life.
00:08:28
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Again. Yeah. they And so I just this movie just sat real, real bad with me this this time. I I. Any enjoyment that I probably would have gotten or or the the the as much enjoyment as I probably would have gotten was kind of squashed by the fact that it had in that in that very specific regard has aged so poorly. Yeah.
00:08:58
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man. No, Mike, I completely agree with you, but I like this movie. Can I start telling you just a little bit about my history with this film? Yeah, by all means. Is that something I can do? Yeah. Because like adding to what I said last week, like, you know, I've always been a Rocky and Bowie go fans. So, so say we all when the trailer came out for this, I downloaded it.
00:09:21
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Like we do at the time because you couldn't stream it. Yes. On QuickTime. So and I would just watch it over and over and over in excitement for the film. um When I was hired at the movie theater, when I worked at the movie theater as a teenager, this film was playing. And not only did I get the poster,
00:09:51
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But I saw it many, many times. ah Well, I saw it maybe three or four times completely when I saw parts of it during breaks and stuff. um One thing that has always had a sort of a negative. um I felt negative about this film is the closing credits.
00:10:14
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I always used to like when I first started working at the movie theater, I was excited to go in and sweep up the popcorn and stuff after this movie. But then like the closing credits are just. What the fuck? What the fuck is that song? What the fuck is it doing at the end of this movie? Right. Like I get the theming, the theming works. Right. The tone of this. The fuck is this song?
00:10:42
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Get out of here. I mean, it's the year, it's the year 2000. It's kind of at the tail end of that um run of movies based on properties from the 60s. This kind of run you were running right up at the tail end of that, but they always had to kind of try to contemporize them for the kids, you know, for kids. um And so they, you know, you put a And in a lot of those situations, you would just do ah so get a hot young pop artist to do a cover of a song. Doesn't matter which one. Just any song and throw it there at the end. um That happened so often. It was just par for the course. If you couldn't get an original song written for your movie,
00:11:31
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with people Bryson and whoever else he would sing with. um He did like two or three of those Disney movies. it's the name The reason why that name, i I pulled that one, but you don't even know. who I'm looking at your face. du You don't even know who people Bryson is, do
Musical Contributions and De Niro's Role
00:11:49
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you? No, I just i just found out something that that makes me feel foolish. Oh.
00:11:55
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What's so this song I'm saying, what the fuck? What the fuck is this song? hu um Based on who one of the writers of the song is, I may have been looking at it wrong ah because, as you know, the film is scored by Mark Mothersbaugh. Correct. Patron Saint of like my entire life. Correct. You you you are not man, you are Devo. I most certainly am a spud boy since birth over here. Right.
00:12:24
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Um, and not only did he write the score, but he co-wrote through the eyes of a child.
00:12:33
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Performed by Lisa McLeod. Hmm. I want to say her name, like Michael Lowry, McLeod. McLeod. Oh, you haven't seen that first bad boys movie, have you? Nevermind. Somebody was saying the other day about, Oh, and I mean, I've seen like the original bad boys.
00:12:52
Speaker
Oh, OK. Yeah, I've seen the first two. I have not seen the the the the revisits, ah revvampps the the legacy equals. Well, you need to see them, but ah yeah, so you keep saying. ah Performed by Lisa McLeod, McLeod, McLeod, McLeod. See, and I hear through the eyes of a child and I think the song that Michael McDonald sings that the through the South Park credits yeah of of the South Park movie, which is Fucking greater. Yeah. Oh, significantly. Now I know now that I know that Mark Mosebaugh had a hand in this song. I will have to revisit it to see if I've missed something as it could be satire, but based on the fact that ah he's only one of one, um two, three, four writers on the song, I don't know that he did.
00:13:50
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how much he did and what he contributed. Right. I would say there the you can we can probably cast them some question on the extent of his input, particularly with regard to lyrics. but To younger audiences, you may best know Mark Mother's Ball music from the Lego movie as he composed for Tegan and Sarah Uh, everything is awesome. Which he performed with them at the Oscars as well. Yes, he did. I saw that. In a Lego Devo hat. Like you do. What would you expect? Right. Um, and he also did the score for, if I'm not mistaken, the Clatter of the Chance of Meatballs films.
00:14:32
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Oh, gosh, yes. He's done so much. He did like the first five Wes Anderson movies. He's done so much. to But don't even look his shit up. Stephen will be here all day. No, I mean, the man is prolific. I just kind of want to see where this falls in relation to like the rest of his scoring work. Like, is this early? Is this late? Like, where is what is this man? He's doing all kinds of shit at this point. Like he's doing ah high profile stuff and like short film. He's to eat.
00:15:00
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Mark really does kind of what he wants, man. It's it's his business like mutato music is like he's got a whole like office building where he does all that shit. Well, I mean, there is there is a there's almost an an Elfman ask quality to Mother's Ball in that he's this kind of 80s rocker who becomes kind of a ah huge name in film score composition. um I mean, yeah, yeah, I'm looking at his shit and he's been doing so stuff since Oh, God, what's his first film score is Revenge of the Nerds 2 in 1987. So one of one of his most famous compositions is the Rugrats theme. Yep. Just like one of Danny Elfman's most famous, whether you know it or not, is the Simpsons theme. Yes, dude. Do you know that? Yes, I don't know. People might not. Also, if it's like 1990 and you're getting booooo do do two two that's Danny Elfman. Correct. like
00:16:00
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I mean, too yeah, it's like the year after Beetlejuice and we're, yeah, I mean, it makes perfect sense. but and but bit and bit and bit the Yeah. Yeah. Just that nice little staccato. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. He was way into that at the time. Way into that. Yeah. I mean, he he gets himself back there for Biddlejuice, Biddlejuice, which we talked about on that episode, but yeah. Yeah, dude. Dude. Yeah.
00:16:23
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Yes, dude, dude. Yes. But unto the I say yes, dude, dude. Yes. We are here to talk about what's your history with this movie, Stephen? I saw it today for the first time.
00:16:38
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Oh, fantastic. It was one of those that I remember when it came out. And I remember seeing it like in the video store back when those were things that existed in this world. Yeah. And I remember looking at it and thinking, why, why are these people doing this? Like, what, why, why is Robert De Niro playing fearless leader in a Rocky and Bullwinkle movie? Respect. Actually, according to De Niro himself, the answer was, let me just check my notes here, money.
00:17:08
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Respect. Money. Respect for Jay Ward. He is, ah honestly, this feels like ah I need to buy a couple more buildings in Tribeca kind of movie, um for for De Niro. One of his kids is in this movie. Yes, ah playing one of the lackeys in the um in the film studio. ah He is...
00:17:33
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executive producer, or he's a producer on this movie. In fact, it's his, his producing partner, Jane Rosenthal, or Gene Rosenthal, excuse me, is the one who says, who brings the project to him and says, we should be making a live action Rocky and Bullwinkle movie.
Casting Choices and Script Challenges
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um And when they originally approach the Ward estate, Tiffany Ward, the daughter of Jay, they're like, he kind of wants to play Boris,
00:18:02
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the the world of Boris, which she thought was hilarious. um She laughed not because she thought it was ridiculous, but just the idea that Robert De Niro, this great dramatic character actor, would want to be a character from Rocky and Bullwinkle. And then eventually, as the the project gestated, they eventually decided on Fearless Leader, which I think is the role he's far better suited to of the of those two roles.
00:18:31
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um But then you also get Rene Russo, who when they were writing the scripts, they were like, oh, well, she's going to be um she's going to play yeah Karen Sympathy, the FBI agent. And then when she approaches them, she's like, no, I want to be Natasha. And they're like, oh, well, yeah, I guess it's kind of obvious. um Good, because I can't imagine anybody but Piper Paribou playing that character. She really embodies kind of that that wholesomeness that it's sort of struggling with.
00:19:02
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holding on to her inner child and like being a part of the serious world. I mean, it this movie and Coyote Ugly come out the same year. ah So yeah, that was that was at the theater when I worked there to watch that one. Surprisingly. Yeah, a little a little surprising, honestly. It's like I think I kind of weighed like I could look at hot bits for an hour and a half.
00:19:31
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but it's going to be really annoying. And I was like, I could just go like, like make out with some gal, like a real gal instead. So. Oh, you, oh, that's right. You were, you, you're, you're conventionally attractive. You have that luxury. I was, I was quite the, quite the hot ticket back in the day, Steven, let me tell you.
00:19:52
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um Well, I have never been a hot ticket in this or any other lifetime. I'm one of those you have to get to know me kind of people. um That's even better.
00:20:02
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Yeah, um I'm not I'm never one of those people that just gonna like meet someone and just like make be making out with them immediately. You know, I have to have a conversation first. I've got to build a rapport and a relationship I have to be funny and charming and not say anything too weird. Because then if it's if I say something too weird, then they're immediately checked out because I look like this. It's a whole thing. Well, yeah, I i had to develop a sense of humor because it was the only way
00:20:31
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Dims to break, Steven. Dims to breaks. Yeah. I got, I mean, I've got to, I got to muddle through with my life choices and what God gave me. So there you go. Yeah, dude. Well, being a slut isn't all it's cracked up to be, Steven. I'll tell you that much. That's easy to say when you're a slut. I know. I know. But if you want to be, and you can't be, you gotta, you gotta imagine the grass might be greener.
00:20:57
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I'm just saying in hindsight, Steven, there were better ways, more productive ways. I could have been spending my time instead of, uh, the fact that you're like preening all the hair on your face while you did that is mildly off putting. I'm not going to lie. I got to tell you that's coincidence, Steven. Cause I don't know if you have noticed this, but I'm always twitching. Yeah. like I'm always touching my face and like rubbing my eyebrows and like,
00:21:25
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you this and a little bit of that and a little bit of this. But this went beyond like, you know, i'm I'm like fidgeting and scratching. This is like I'm smoothing out my eyebrows and then smoothing out my mustache. I really was fidgeting, I swear. That's all I was doing, I promise. to grow I promise.
00:21:41
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scoutaer
00:21:44
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Um, but I mean, type of pair, but this is like her second movie ever. Uh, she did like a couple of shorts and something called white boys, all one word with a Z at the end. Yeah. Um, and it's like, I've never heard of this movie. I don't know what this movie is. Um, but she, and she's in it. And then Dr. Dre and, uh, fat Joe are also in it. Uh, those are like the main people from this movie that I've heard of.
00:22:15
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um But yeah, I don't I don't know much about this one but this that was her first movie and then the next year that's 99 the year after that she's doing the Rocky and Bullwinkle movie and coyote ugly and she's kind of catapulted to stardom overnight and then no one really knows what to do with her. after Yeah, like really ashamed because she's insanely talented.
Piper Perabo's Early Career
00:22:40
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I remember she being a big deal for just like one summer. Yeah. And I didn't I didn't see her again until I saw carriers 2009 with ah Chris Pine. You saw her in Looper. Oh, yeah, you I always forget she's in that. Yeah.
00:22:58
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But carriers is good, though, too. It's also in the prestige. Christopher Nolan's the prestige in a very small role. Did you see carriers, though? No, I haven't seen carriers. That was when when the pandemic had hit the very night where it was announced that we were going on to the lockdowns. Jimmy and I watched carriers.
00:23:19
Speaker
OK, Lou Taylor Pucci, Chris Pine, Piper Parabon, Lou Taylor Pucci. Is he the guy from Evil? Yes, he's the guy I fucking hate in the Evil Dead. Yep. In the the Evil Dead remake, just the worst, just the fucking worst. Carriers is um it's a snack. It's a really good snack. It's a fun little horror movie that doesn't take itself too seriously, but it takes itself just serious enough for it to be effective. Chris Maloney, Kiernan Shipka, like her.
00:23:49
Speaker
I recommend it. She's probably a little kid when that movie came out. Yeah. Look at her there. She's a little kid. Yeah. All right. All right. I'll I'll I'll put it on my list. But yeah, I mean, I do. Oh, right on. Yeah. I guess Looper comes out after ah carriers, but you had you would have seen her before that. ah You would have seen Looper before you saw carriers. um No, I saw carriers when it came out.
00:24:14
Speaker
Oh, I thought you said we watched it. pandemic I showed it to Jimmy. Oh, the day of the pandemic day, whatever day that early March 2000 dose. But I mean, yeah, she's still working, but it's just not like in anything that I've seen, like probably future episode of this podcast, Georgia and the Dragon. um The Cave, she's in the cheaper by the dozens as I guess one of the members of the family.
00:24:43
Speaker
Um, she's in a penny dreadful thing, but like after the first season, I just, that show really turned me off. I, I'm kind of like season two episode one. And I was like, ah, what? Yeah. I didn't know make it much past that you're right. Yeah. no don and And now she's, she's, uh, she's doing yellow stone and billions. Like she's, she's mostly doing TV now. So that's cool, man. Make that money, girl. Yeah.
00:25:08
Speaker
um but Yeah, it's just it's one of those weird things. Like she was really big for that one one summer and then just no one really knows what to do with her. And so she just kind of pops up here and there. But I she's she's a very good actress. She's easy on the eyes. um But I mean, you know, when this movie came out. Absolutely. She's but she's I think most importantly, incredibly talented. Like she's a very good actress.
00:25:33
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um But again, like she shows up in just kind of these minor roles in a lot of things. So I think that's kind of where she ended up, unfortunately. But no, I'm always excited when Piper Paribault shows up in something. And so when she shows up with this, I was not expecting it. I was like, oh, that's Piper Paribault. I know who that is. But then I went back and looked at her filmography. This is like her second movie. And that's honestly kind of impressive that her second movie is basically her as the lead opposite Robert De Niro and Jason Alexander and Rene Russo. Like that's quite a get for for a up and coming young actress. Yeah, dude, agreed.
00:26:15
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um The original conceit, or I guess the original performers they wanted for this, and this thing had been in development hell since probably right around the time Boris and Natasha came out, they tried to get this this movie Greenlit,
00:26:31
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ah They bookended the whole ah boomer nostalgia craze. They bookended it really nicely. Really did. um But we they wanted um Meryl Streep and Danny DeVito to play Boris and Natasha.
00:26:48
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um And then, like, again, when Renee Russo, Renee Russo just felt very perfect for me. And like Sally Kellerman before her, like ran into June foray at the read through and was like, June, would you mind like reading a couple of these lines for me just, you know, so I know what I'm doing here. And June did.
00:27:12
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And Renee was like, she was great. She was so gracious. um You know, and I mean, she did the same for Sally Kellerman. So like June four, I didn't really seem so like someone who was so precious about this stuff that she's like, well, I have to do it or it's not getting done. Well, she's a galskal. Yeah. And she I mean, she came back to play Rocky, which was quite awesome, frankly. It was good that there were a few instances where you could tell that she was utterly ancient.
00:27:37
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Mm hmm. Few, but not many. Not a lot of time. She was right fucking on top of it. Mm hmm. Yeah, there are particularly the moment where like Rocky's flying. They're like, you're flying, Rocky. And Rocky's just like, I am Karen. I really am. And you're just like, oh. Well, for me, it's the few times you can hear dentures slip. That's what I'm like. Oh, oh.
00:28:03
Speaker
Okay, that's fine. Though honestly, like 90% of the time though, she's killing it. You can't even tell that she's as old as hell. And I mean, the animated sections at the beginning where she's basically doing all the stuff that she used to do on the show. Like, and she's one of, she was a survivor. Yeah, she does the old lady voice based on Ma Kettle and actually does play Natasha in the animated sections.
00:28:29
Speaker
um And you actually get like act the the voice actors in those moments actually playing the characters. um Keith Scott steps in for the original voice of Bullwinkle, everybody. He does some heavy but also this William Conrad. Yeah, because he's the narrator to I don't like him as much as I liked Corey Burton.
00:28:49
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in Boris and Natasha, I think Corey Burton was really kind of killing it in that movie. I think I think the guy in this one nailed the the voice, but he didn't hit the cadence quite as well. The delivery is a little el the voice like nailed it. Well, and I know disrespect to Academy Award winner Kenneth Lonergan, but like, I'm not a huge fan of the script on this.
00:29:19
Speaker
I get that. Because Lonergan does analyze this for De Niro previously. um Also Billy Crystal, who's also in this movie. Correct. Squished by mattresses. Yes. Now that's a soft mattress. um But he writes, analyze this, which Harold Ramis then would go on to direct. um And so like youre yeah I can see where De Niro's coming from, like comedy. Here's a guy who wrote a comedy that I was in like last year.
00:29:52
Speaker
This is the guy who can write my Rocky and Bullwinkle script. there and And, you know, Rosenthal probably thinking the same thing because I feel like she's kind of the but one really driving the production on this movie more so than De Niro. Well, I think there had to be a lot of a lot of stuff going on at the studio, too, because you can see that kind of a script in here. You can see that late 70s, early 80s.
00:30:17
Speaker
ah road movie. There's a lot of blues brothers in this movie a lot a lot i don't watch Blues Brothers in this movie. There's a detour through the city of Chicago for no reason other than that it was probably in Blues Brothers. But I mean a lot of a lot of the um I love the practical car effects all the crashes and the chases all that looks fantastic but that's a different movie and then you have the where the studio is like, but you can do whatever you want, but you have to do these things. Yes. So you have this movie. You've got to have this movie over here. You've got to do some out of you. You've got to do, you know, you got to you got to play the hits and you've also got to keep this thing, you know, relevant. This became like a spot the cameo kind of movie in that like fucking everybody's and this is Kenan Thompson's first live action movie, apparently.
00:31:11
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um He's also he would later be in future episode of this podcast, Fat Albert. Oh, we're going to watch that. I mean, at some point. I might have to tap out, Stephen. It's on the list. I know. And you know, I don't do that unless I really, really have to. I don't think I i don't think I could. I don't think I could look Bill Cosby in the eyes. I mean, you could you could look away when he's on screen.
00:31:37
Speaker
No. Let's talk about something else. I mean, Leonard Part six is another one we could feasibly do, too. Not that I'm saying we should. I'm just saying, you know, good. But I mean, but to to to to kind of keep up with my my earlier sentiment, I no disrespect to Kenneth Lonergan, but he doesn't quite get the rhythms as well as I would like.
00:32:04
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Um, like I wanted the movie to, instead of ending with the end, I wanted the movie to end with like, uh, tune in next time for, just like they used to do on the old, on the, like, like Boris and Natasha ended. Like where you're just like, oh, well, yeah, it's that, that funny and there's two, you know, completely just goofy, um, pun heavy.
00:32:28
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potential titles for the next episode. yeah And neither one of them ever actually ends up being the case. um Kind of like an Arrested Development next time on. I think the problem with this movie is it's too focused on getting to the end.
00:32:44
Speaker
And it has a lot of things it has to do. And instead of feeling the pacing is this movie's worst enemy. Yeah, because it it knows where it's going. It knows it has to get there. It knows it has to do all of these things in between. But nobody thought about how to put all that together. Correct. And for me, at least and I know this number is way different for most people, but for me, about 80 percent of that shit works. About 20 percent of it doesn't.
00:33:10
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but that doesn't matter because it doesn't fit together well. Yeah, like I will shit. I love this movie, but I will shit on this movie because I know it is bad. Right. I didn't know it is bad. Like I wasn't a huge fan of last week's movie, but I was quick to sing the praises of the things I thought it did well. But I think there are far fewer things that this movie gets right.
Critique of Film's Humor and Pacing
00:33:33
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And I but but I think even the things that it took to your point, the things that it does get right, I'm still kind of weighing against the stuff that, because the stuff that it gets wrong, it gets so egregiously wrong. yeah um That even the stuff that it gets right feels wrong as a result. um Which is a bummer, because like, there are parts of this that are so fun. Like after they get pulled out of the the TV, you know, Robert De Niro holding up the contract saying we're attached to the project. Like I cackled, that's such a good joke.
00:34:09
Speaker
Like the Hollywood in jokes are phenomenal in this. They're so funny. Like the fact that there's a lighthouse called the Green Lighthouse where you can green light a movie. Yeah, that's funny. And it's a very Rocky and Bullwinkle joke, too. Like it. But but then it it like the whole need to explain how Rocky and Bullwinkle can get from the animated world to the real world, like feeling the need to like spell that out and devote like a five minute set piece to that.
00:34:41
Speaker
It's not necessary, just like they're in Frostbite Falls, Minnesota, and you know just have someone go to Frostbite Falls and say, hey, we need your help. like That's all it takes. so We don't have to like work so hard at it, but we are. I feel like the first 10 minutes of this movie are probably the most successful minutes of this movie. And then after that, it just kind of starts to unravel on itself. Well, it's not.
00:35:08
Speaker
It's not consistent. That's a huge problem with this movie is the stuff that hits. It's really, really good. But you don't have time to savor it because it's followed by something that falls completely fucking flat. Exactly. Exactly. and So you can't even enjoy the thing you enjoyed because the next thing is going to take take just suck the enjoyment right out of it.
00:35:28
Speaker
And I'm usually like not a fan of the overt winking to the audience kind of thing. Parts of it really worked in this. And then it when it worked, it really worked, but when it didn't, it really didn't. Like one of my favorite little asides to the audience is, and really bad TV, but or really bad television became Rocky and Bullwinkle television. To which Bullwinkle says, what's the difference? And I'm just like, perfect. Perfect. yeah Apparently in the original script he looked at the camera lowered his glasses and said whoa yeah There were actually a few of those ah that and ah two that I remember from the trailer Well, I can't think of the other is I'm the king of the world cuz I was in the trailer that I watched a million times Yeah, there was also it was the other one. There was another one. You're right. I can't maybe but it was in that same trailer and
00:36:23
Speaker
Oh, I don't remember. I'm going to find it it. You, you, you keep talking. I'm going to find it. Oh, I was going to kind of switch gears and talk about how this film started a lifelong love for Supertramp for me. Oh, yeah. Because surprisingly, as into older music as I was at that age, I had never really gotten into Supertramp. I'd only heard stuff from the radio, a logical song, Goodbye, Stranger.
00:36:53
Speaker
You know the hits and the dreamer was one of their singles and it was a pretty significant hit. It wasn't one that they were still playing on classic rock radio. So like I hadn't heard it. And when I heard it in the trailer and then I heard it in the movie and I was like I really like.
00:37:07
Speaker
I really like that electric piano. I like that synthesizer that they're using. That sounds fantastic. And so I bought like three of their CDs and I still have Breakfast in America on vinyl because it's one of my favorite records of all time. Yeah, that's a good. Marvin even likes that album. There's somewhere like Marvin's very focused in his musical tastes, but every once in a while something so good and so far outside of his weirdhouse wheelhouse that he cannot deny it.
00:37:37
Speaker
Like this guy listens to mostly like industrial thrash metal stuff. Right. Oh, okay. But boy, I sure did get him into pet sounds and breakfast in America. I was going to say pet sounds damn near perfect album. Like it's not a perfect album.
00:37:56
Speaker
I kind of know what to show to who I remember my roommate in tech school, uh, when I, had after I just finished basic trading, um, he was, he only listened to hip hop music, which I also enjoyed, but we were roommates. So he was going to hear some Neil Young. Yeah. And boy, boy got into some harvest. I'll tell you what he was like, yo, can you listen to harvest again? You still got that CD? I was like, yeah. Yeah, I do. Let's put it on. I got it right here i have it right here.
00:38:24
Speaker
Nick Drake next? Sure. Let's go. Sure. Let's do it. Fucking A. Fucking A. The third reference, the third pop culture reference is, I'd like to use one of my lifelines, please.
Influence of 90s Media on Modern Formats
00:38:37
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That's in that trailer too, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, dude. I think it was a good choice. They mercifully changed, yeah. That would have grounded this movie very firmly in a time and place.
00:38:50
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that it's already pretty firmly ground into. Correct. correct I mean, the the technology of this movie really kind of cements it in a time and place, like we're faxing. the laptop.
00:39:05
Speaker
Yeah. To do the thing. You can't just have a boop boop. He's got to have a whole ass fucking laptop. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Like, and I mean, this is the era when like Dick Tracy watches were a thing. Like Dick Tracy had been doing that shit since the 40s, but we got to have a whole ass laptop to to basically do what right. What Judge Doom did with a with a barrel, a barrel full of ooze. Hey, wait, this is not like Roger Rabbit. Let's not make that mistake. It's exactly like right. No, they said it wasn't. So it's not right.
00:39:36
Speaker
Sure, that's that's how that works. They recognized that they referenced it, so therefore they're absolved, correct? That's how that works? Well, if I mean, if this movie taught me anything, it's that celebrities are above the law. Yeah. Celebrity presidents, most of all. when Yeah, when you're when you're famous, they let you they let you do it. They let you yeah just get away with anything, yeah. Grabbing them by the moose, knuckle. Oh, no. What have I done? What the fuck, dude?
00:40:09
Speaker
what the fuck did you just do i did it i did it across the disenfranchised line you really fucking did here i am dancing a jig on the other side of it i was gonna say if if anyone was gonna do it i don't think anyone's surprised that it was you let's be honest come on it's it it works with the episode because he's a does it i mean no i i understand what you did he could drive You just can't drive well. And fly a plane. Better than he can drive, actually. Actually, yes, weirdly. Really good at flying a plane. What moose doesn't know how to fly a plane. and Landing a plane, not so much. But flying, sure. Yeah, yeah. It keeps it up there. eat For a while. Yeah. For a while.
00:40:55
Speaker
um Yeah, we we this is it. So last week you you mentioned that you did not think much of Jason Alexander's performance as Boris in this movie. I wanna dig into that a little bit. I don't i don't like his performance. let Let me start by saying, I do not like Jason Alexander's performance as Boris Badenoff in this movie. I don't like Jason Alexander's performance as anything and anything.
00:41:23
Speaker
I do not like Jason Alexander. I don't think he's funny. I think he's annoying. Everything he does is annoying, like to the point of irritation and not in a good way. Do not like, do not like, do not like Jason Alexander. <unk>nza is number tucker George is my number two favorite, favorite television character of all time. Cool. Also Hot Take from twin peak hoteg Seinfeld sucks.
00:41:49
Speaker
I mean, I feel fucking bad, but it's it's one of it's always a comedy of all time. It's always it's like GoldenEye. That's always been a bad game. Always fight me in the comments. Right. Let's do it. GoldenEye sucks. And it always has. Comments, disenfranch, pod patreon dot com slash stitch in French Pod. Get in there. Rip me a new one. Let's talk about out here. Fuck a GoldenEye. Motherfucker GoldenEye. No, thank you. Mm hmm.
00:42:19
Speaker
But, uh, no, I dig in my own grave this episode. You really are. Fuck Seinfeld. Between the moose knuckle and this, like, good Lord, dude. I did. I did. I did. though You're going to get so fucking canceled. There was this comedian lady on Instagram I saw where she was talking about, like, who, who decides they want to play the bass guitar? Like, who brings the bass guitar to the party and, like, plays the theme from Seinfeld?
00:42:45
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you
00:42:48
Speaker
So i have I've always liked Seinfeld. Still like Seinfeld to this day. I understand it's not everyone's cup of tea, but it it hits me where I live. George Costanza remains the most one of the most hilarious characters in all of television. ah One of the most disturbingly relatable characters that I've ever seen.
00:43:10
Speaker
on depicted on screen. ah So I don't have any problem with Jason Alexander. In fact, he I mean, he's been a victim very much of the Seinfeld curse, which is that say that every project that any one of those guys with the exception of Julia Louis Dreyfus tries to take on just kind of blows up in their face. Good for her.
00:43:31
Speaker
Seriously, she had two very successful sitcoms after like yeah New Adventures of Old Christine got cancelled prematurely, but it won like a shit ton of Emmy's and then Veep ran for so many years and got her so many Emmy's like she is Which I watched the first season of and I really liked it I just for some reason I just couldn't get into it like I couldn't get into the rhythm of it I was just like I don't I don't know how to keep watching the show I want to watch the British version of the show the thick of it first Is it a remake or is it, which one came first? Thick of it came first. um So it is, it Veep is to the thick of it, what the American office is to the British office, basically. The difference is the creator of the show was um like the creator on Veep. Like he was a like very much a part of the process. Whereas Ricky Gervais and Stephen Merchant wanted nothing to do with the American version of them. They're just cashing those checks.
00:44:29
Speaker
Do those guys know? Do you think that they know that they've basically just created the modern sitcom when they made The Office? Did they know it at the time? No, but when other countries, when every other country in the world like picked it up and like ran with it, I think they figured it out. Look, two out of the three lunchtime shows that I watch right now being Abbott Elementary, Schitt's Creek, and what we do in the shadows.
00:44:54
Speaker
are that format. Yeah. It's all mockumentary, like workplace shit. That's all it is. Sometimes that we're that that hospital show that everybody likes now. Even Superstore, even though Superstore, they didn't really do interviews with people. It's still kind of had that feeling. You kind of had that same kind of deal. I miss Superstore. I liked that show a lot. That was bad really good. Homeboy from Kids in the Hall was in it. Speaking of homeboy, that was a homeboy from Kids in the Hall. And this briefly, he was the little little guy messing with the machine.
DVD Rant and Media Format Quality
00:45:24
Speaker
What's his nuts from kids in the hall? That's him, right? Little guy messing with not, not little guy. Well, okay. When, when fearless leaders showing them the machine that has the little meter on it that says total zombification, the guy that's working on it is the dude from kids in the hall. Um.
00:45:48
Speaker
Oh, fucking what's his nuts? and Kevin McDonald, right? That's totally him. No, there's no way it's not not in this movie. Are you sure that wasn't him? I'm there's no way it wasn't. I'm looking at the cast list of this movie and there is no Kevin McDonald on it. Uncredited maybe because damn, there's no way that's not him. No, I mean, not him. That's fine. It's not him, dude. I'm telling you. It must be like his cousin or something.
00:46:17
Speaker
I mean, we didn't get any kids in the halls, man. But Bruce, is it Bruce McCullough that's in Superstore? um No, it's no, that's the short guy. Short guy is Bruce McCullough. I'm thinking of Mark. What's his name? So I'm really bad with their names, it's except for Dave Foley. yeah Right. It was the guy from who went on to do SNL, too. Like he was the only guy who did kids in the hall and SNL.
00:46:41
Speaker
Um, ah yeah. and Yeah. Yeah. And he's Glenn in superstore. Yeah. Yeah. Um, it's, uh, fuck man. There's this really. add Um, mark the kid yes, there you go. There's this really rad channel on Pluto TV called funny AF and it's all sketch comedy shows. So they show kids in the hall and they show why his kids, you know, and and Mr. Show and bright citizens brigade.
00:47:12
Speaker
Probably depending on what time of the day they've been mainly showing, of course they have programming blocks, like, you know, every couple of weeks they'll switch it up. But like the last couple of weeks, they've been mainly showing kids in the hall and why his kids, you know, uh, the kids channel, you might say some in the hall, some very white.
00:47:32
Speaker
And and but they happen to be just the ones you know. I don't understand um because they show unedited movies on Pluto. All the movies on Pluto are unedited, except they put commercials in them. But still, there's nothing cut from the films. Correct. All the swear words are there, all the nudity, all the violence. Everything is there.
00:47:51
Speaker
But when they on their funny AF channel, when they show kids in the hall, not kids in the hall, why is kids, you know, they censor a lot of stuff. There's a particular sketch that was making fun of ShamWow called The Jizzle. And it's a rag that's specifically made to clean up ejaculate, if you will. sure sure No, I figured. Yeah. And boy, every time he says come, they bleep it out. Every time he says jizz, they bleep it out.
00:48:18
Speaker
But only half the time when they actually show him cleaning it up, do they blur it. So I'm wondering, like, what's like how viscous does it have to look for them to like blur it? Because sometimes you're allowed to see it. Sometimes it's blurred. Mostly when he's wiping it up, it's blurred. but When you can just see it there, it's not like. Sure. I mean, I guess that makes sense on some level. That's Shout Factory trying me trying to get me to buy the box set. And if they wanted me to buy the box, site they put it out. You should have put it out on something other than motherfucking ancient ass DVD. Tell them.
00:48:49
Speaker
Who? look Who? Why are people still buying DVDs, Steven? Please, Tucker, don't hurt them. Do they know? Do they know that their TVs are at least 1080p? At least. At least. And they're watching something.
00:49:07
Speaker
480. I've still got some DVDs, man. I understand. I have a lot of DVDs, but you know what else I also have? I have a regular ass DVD player and I have a motherfucking CRT television while it's supposed to be watched.
00:49:21
Speaker
I don't sit and watch DVDs on my fucking 4K display. That's insane. That's insane. That's insanity. That's what a crazy person is like. A person who buys DVDs for their 4K display, that's a crazy person. Tucker, it's not your fault. crazy It's It's not your fault. I'm surrounded by crazy people. It's it's not your fault. DVDs still sell better than Blu-rays. Tucker, it's not your fault. How? It's not your fault. Why? I'll tell you how its they're cheaper.
00:49:52
Speaker
Not by much, negligibly so. And most people, but enough. And most people are not you and me. They don't care about that shit. You're telling me most people are blind? How can you not tell the difference? I had to tell a friend of mine when she was buying her new TV to turn off the motion smoothing.
00:50:11
Speaker
I was like, look, i we're friends and I care enough about you to let you know, turn off motion smoothing. And she was like, I don't even know what that is. I was like, Google it and figure out how to turn it off, but you don't want it on. Cause it's going to make your, it's going to make your picture look like crap. And I care about you too much as a person to let you do that to yourself. Yeah, dude. So yeah like I, of man, I get it. I understand, but we can't, we can't expect, you know, the average people in this world, like to to get it, like we get it.
00:50:42
Speaker
Like this is who we are fundamentally as people. We're broken people, Tucker. And look, like, yes, I do have a CRT and I originally watched these sketches in standard definition, but they exist in high definition. All of these sketches were shot on film or on digital film.
00:51:01
Speaker
In high definition, those prints exist. That's what's on their YouTube channel. Not upscaled, not fucked with at all. Just the original high definition versions of these sketches. They exist. Shout factory. What the fuck. Put out a Blu-ray. Put out a Blu-ray.
00:51:27
Speaker
Though I wouldn't buy it though, because like, I like white as kids, you know, but I only like about 70% of their sketches. So I'd rather just watch them on YouTube. Uh, just to watch the ones that I want, but I really do like to complain and it's really stupid that they only put it out on DVD. So, I mean, that's probably why they have an upscaled is because people like most people, it if they, it probably hasn't sold well enough on DVD to justify them upscaling. So I might, if there was a Blu-ray though, I'd buy it.
00:51:58
Speaker
though I said I wouldn't just because it's one of those things where I enjoy them enough. And it's a format where I can, to some extent, just pick and choose what sketches I want to watch. And, you know, when, when the shit hits the fan and there's no internet, how am I going to watch the poop rope sketch? How am I going to watch the autoerotic exphyxiation sketch?
00:52:23
Speaker
How am I going to do that? don't know man How am I going to watch the civil war on drugs?
00:52:30
Speaker
Who knows? Perhaps I'll die.
00:52:37
Speaker
Perhaps. So let's go ahead and talk about the plot of this movie. I guess. And what the hell let's do it in 60 seconds or less. DVD.
00:52:48
Speaker
I watched this on DVD, Steven, but to be fair, I bought it a long time ago. Tucker is just fucking gone down the DVD, DVD rabbit hole. We're probably going to wrap this, this episode up after this. Really? Too far gone. Well, there's no coming back for you, man. You've been ranting about DVDs for like the last 10 minutes. Oh, it's just, I just don't understand it. There are things that I don't like. There are things that I am against.
00:53:15
Speaker
And I can handle that, but I don't like things I don't understand. Like Storm said in the first episode of the 1993 X-Men animated series, humans fear what they don't understand. Yeah, and that's me, and I don't get it. Why are you still buying DVDs? Anyway, the plot in what, 480p you said?
00:53:39
Speaker
Something like that. I'm going to flip the coin of justice. Tucker is going to call it in the air and whoever wins, whoever the coin chooses will do the plot and this movie in 60 seconds or less. Fuck it. I don't care anymore. Call it. Oh, heads. And it is heads, you son of a bitch. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, God, the plot of this movie.
00:54:02
Speaker
um Tucker is putting, it's an easy one. It would be an easy one to do a plot in 10 seconds on this. When you need to stretch it out, it's like, wow. I pretty much summed up the plot of this movie already. So. All right. Let me know when you're ready and I'll hit the start button on the official egg timer of the disenfranchised podcast.
00:54:27
Speaker
So 35 years after the cancellation of Rocky and Bullwinkle, a fearless leader decides he wants to become president of the United States by ah brainwashing the entire United States by buying every cable channel and just make putting really bad mind-numbing television on it.
00:54:43
Speaker
ah So the federal government led by Randy Quaid and James Rebhorn decide to, ah I don't know, call in Rocky and Bullwinkle. So ah for some reason they have to do a cross country road trip to um to New York City to put a stop to it. ah Really this movie could have just been in ah ah like maybe a half an hour episode of the show.
00:55:03
Speaker
Um, but we had to stretch it out with the road movie plot for some reason. And, uh, I dunno, eventually they Rocky and Piper Parabo get there. Uh, Bullwinkle ends up getting faxed from Washington DC to New York, uh, where he tells America to vote for who they want to. And for some reason, they still choose James Redbourne and the trees are grown back in Frostbite Falls and everyone's happily ever after the end, which Rocky spells in the sky with smoke. And that's time. but
00:55:35
Speaker
Well, I mean, what did it like? Nothing, man. You hit the broad strokes.
Jim Carrey and the Farrelly Brothers' Impact
00:55:40
Speaker
And that's the thing about this movie is it really could have probably been a half an hour. But for all the road movie stuff like this could have been a very like this could have been an episode of television, like a sitcom length episode of television. I feel like this could have been a nice 45 minute television special. Yeah.
00:56:04
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But we put it on the big screen. um yeah Yeah. You know who really loved this movie right along with you, Tucker? Roger Ebert. Roger Ebert really loved this movie. Yeah, we get it. That's right. The movie was real, real fun. ands good fun too But Roger Ebert is like the perfect boomer. Like the he is the audience for this movie. Me and him were the ones. You're the one. Not even a boomer. I'm just a guy.
00:56:34
Speaker
It's a regular dude. Modern-day Renaissance, man. You're kind of that, like me, where you and I and Brad are all kind of in that. I'm generationless. Right, that middle generation between Gen X and millennials. I'm truly generationless. That's something called the millennials are baby Gen X. Though, because I still like new stuff.
00:56:56
Speaker
Which is why I once again found myself surrounded by people 20 years younger than me last night at the concert I went to. The flowers concert? It never gets easier, Steven. Never gets easier. I just, I don't go to concerts anymore, man. I just, I just don't enjoy them. I, well, you would enjoy this concert, Steven. It's, it's super chill. Parker wants to go, but- No, dude, see florist if they come to Chicago, Steven. I'll buy your tickets and everything.
00:57:24
Speaker
I did that for Jimmy actually. I was like, you have to see florist and he's like, really? And I'm like, yeah, I just bought you tickets. What are you doing on the 13th? And then he took some girl to see him. He really liked him. So there you go. I'd be doing that sometime. We'll buy you some tickets to florist, Steven, you and you. I mean, I'm sure we'll appreciate it. I will appreciate the night out, if not the music. So right on. Oh, you'll love it. So rad.
00:57:47
Speaker
um My partner has a very, specific has very hyper specific tastes and in music. So yeah it's a, it's always kind of ah a dice roll as to whether or not she'll enjoy something. But it was kind of weird last night though, because, um, florist is very, it's, I don't want to say it's uplifting, but it's positive music. Like it's, it's kind of sad, nostalgic, hopeful, wholesome, soft, indie pop.
00:58:17
Speaker
If that makes any sense, but the lady that opened for them, this gal named, uh, Marie Sue, uh, M A R I E E S I O U X. She's taking the X off of her name, but previously it was the X was at the end. Um, she was getting really, really deep, like talking about like Palestine and stuff. And like, I'm with her on all that shit. Like I really am. Like that's.
00:58:45
Speaker
I did not come to a floor show to like get deep into that shit. It was like, ah, oh, I'm glad you're going on first. She was good. She had a great voice. The band was good. The songs were great. It's just they're real heavy, like real, real heavy. And for me, Florist is especially going to see their shows, like but even listening to their records, which is why I own their entire discography on vinyl. It's a deep existential breath.
00:59:15
Speaker
One of those, like every time I go see florist, like half of the 6,000 pounds on my shoulders just kind of falls off. For a while at least. It's nice. It's a deep breath. Oh, and a long exhale and a nice stretch. What was the name of the song that they did for this movie? They didn't do a song for this movie. They did do a song for, I saw the TV glow though.
00:59:37
Speaker
Oh, I saw that one. Yeah. I like that one. You did not like that one. I did. I got to see it again. There's obviously something I'm missing. Clearly, it's a very good film, dude. Like I i want to see it again, just so I could raise my rating of it, because it it has lived on in my memory in a way few other films that I've seen this year. have I don't I don't think I got it. And I think the reason I didn't get it is because I had.
01:00:03
Speaker
very different expectations, not of something better or worse, but of just something different than what it ended up being. And so I think being focused on like having those expectations shattered, um I just didn't get it. like And i'm I'm a movie person. I get like movies. like You know, abstract surrealism and shit like I get that. OK. I get movies. OK. I got to understand the language of film, Stephen. OK. I've listened to many DVD commentaries. I'm basically an expert. That was our film school, man. That was our that was our free film school late 90s early 2000s. That's that was so many commentaries.
01:00:52
Speaker
Um, Tucker, what's your favorite cameo in the adventures of Rocky and Bullwinkle? Uh,
01:01:01
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ah probably David Allen Greer, just because I love him so much, even though he doesn't do anything. I was going to say him and John Polito, like I want so much more from those characters. And they're right there. They're right there. Right there. They say a couple of things and then we move on.
01:01:15
Speaker
yeah I fucking love John Palito, too. Like, I just want to give that guy a big old hug. He is just absolutely the best. He's been in a and a few movies that we've covered on this podcast, Rocketeer, Blank Man, and now Adventures of Rock and Bullwinkle. God love that guy. what ah What a guy. I think my two favorite roles of his are a tie between um he plays the Patsy in The Man Who Wasn't There. Right. um Are you making a pass, mister? Maybe.
01:01:45
Speaker
Well, you're out of line. You're way out of line. He's so good in that movie. He's always straightening his toupee and he's all his little meticulous little movements. And I really love him as Gideon in The Crow, the pawn shop owner guy, because he's just such a nasty dude. He's such a he just doesn't give a fuck and he dies not giving a fuck. He dies telling top dollar to go fuck himself. Basically, it's fantastic spoilers.
01:02:13
Speaker
he He is really good at playing like a certain kind of character. Like just kind of that like skeevy scheming kind of guy. Like him in the rocketeer. I think it was probably the first thing I ever saw him in. All part of the show. It's all part of the show. The rocket man. No, he's the rocketeer. Yeah. who Yeah.
01:02:35
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Raka, what? Raka, I don't know. um But I mean, like, just eat so many cameos in this thing. Like, I love John Goodman in this. And he's John Goodman. Yeah, and I'm really John Goodman. And I'm just like, oh, I love that. Like, again, I normally hate shit like that. Like, the the whole extended scene in Oceans 12 where Julia Roberts' character is pretending to be Julia Roberts,
01:03:02
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fucking hated that. But for some reason, John Goodman saying yeah, and I'm really John Goodman, that hit me just right. Like hit me just right. This movie gets an A plus plus plus plus for effort. Because you could tell the creative people, not the suits, but the creative people that were involved in this movie really, really had a passion for it. They really loved these characters and they wanted to represent them, wanted to represented them want man wanted to represent them as best as possible. It's just, man.
01:03:39
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It's so inconsistent and it's not put together well. And that's really what it comes right down to is the potential of this movie is just exhausting. Yeah. Like, ah, why is this not better? Because you it you feel like it really should be. And it is sometimes like you see it. You're like, oh, you're like, there you are, Peter. Because hook when they look in his eye and. he's Right. Yeah.
01:04:05
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Yeah. I mean, I, I should mention, I didn't mention him at the top, but Mark Holton is the FBI agent who was the potato. yeah um That is Francis from Peewee's Big Adventure. all right and so yes The adult Stilwell Angel in a league of their own. Ozzy and Leprechaun. lies and he He's in the Leprechaun, the most recent, the legacy sequel to the original Leprechaun movie.
01:04:36
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returns as that character. I love that story. And then he's the it's Enrico Palazzo guy from ah from Naked Gun, too. Like, yeah he just like one of those guys. But he's a blink and you miss it cameo at the end of this movie with right next to didn't even though he was in it yeah right next to Doug Jones as the the carrot ah FBI agent. Well, how can you even tell who any of those people were?
01:05:05
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Well, at the end, when they become real people, I was like, I kind of looks familiar, and but I was so focused on to jones yeah um now boy Doug Jones. yeah, Indianapolis, Indiana's own Doug Jones. Plus an accommodating human being, Doug Jones. I believe it. I have no problem believing it. Like seems like a really nice dude would love to would love to shake his giant hand one day. He's a very, he's not a big man, but he's we no, he's not a large man, but he's well, no,
01:05:34
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I don't know how to talk about him. He's a very tall man. He's very tall and very slender. yeah Yes. Yes. So he's a big man, but he's not a large man. Right. He is he is tall in stature, but not in girth. um Graduate of Bishop Chittard High School in Indianapolis, Indiana. Yeah. i know I know our audience really loves when we get really niche and inside baseball about our hometown of Indianapolis, Indiana.
01:06:03
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Hey, they go through Indiana in this movie. They do. A town called De Bitter, De Bitter, Indiana, I think is what they called it. Yeah. I was I was making a list of all the fictional town names because they were all kind of silly. Like the red bait was one because red baits how you catch a red herring, which I thought was really funny.
01:06:27
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Um, cow tip Oklahoma was another one dude. Yeah. So yeah, there's some funny stuff. Um, the, uh, my, my partner who is of Swedish descent, uh, did comment that the Swedish accent employed by the, uh, the Swedish prison guard is, uh, to quote her the fakest prison or the the fakest Swedish accent she's ever heard. Has she heard the Swedish chef?
01:06:53
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Uh, yes, she has. okay Wow. Well, that's worse. Okay. All right. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, look, she's been, she's been to Sweden and I don't think either of us have. So my favorite band, Swedish. So I feel like I have a little pole in this conversation. I mean, you do like ABBA. We all know your canonical and ABBA fan. I don't like ABBA actually. I don't dislike ABBA. I don't have anything against them as people. I just don't care for their music.
01:07:21
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You like Abba. But the Cardigans is my favoritest band of all time. they They do leave you breathless. Who do? The Cardigans. Oh, really? Yeah.
01:07:36
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I don't get it. It's okay. I'm probably calling out the wrong band, so it's okay. um i do You know what? Wouldn't be the first time, wouldn't be the last. Are you thinking in the cranberries? No, I'm thinking of the cores. Oh, light or banquet original? RRS, not ORS. I see. Fantastic. I love that. Good job, everybody.
01:08:04
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Yep. All right. Let's pack it up and head home. Tucker, any, anything else you have to say about Rocky and or Bullwinkle? It's really a damn shame because there isn't really much to say about this movie outside what we've said. And I kind of knew this was going to be a short episode coming into it. Um, because I can argue about the things I like about this movie until I'm blue in the face, but the fact remains, it is not a good movie. Yeah. I love it.
01:08:32
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but I also recognize that it's not a good movie. And I mean, like i I would rather watch this than like Marmaduke. Oh yeah, a thousand times, yes. Like any any garfield any big screen Garfield adaptation. like This is at least digestible, at least digestible. This has elements of the spirit of the original cartoon, even if the the plot is canonically a mess.
01:09:02
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Like it is, it still has some good stuff going for it. Am I rating it very high? No, I'm not. I am rating Boris and Natasha higher than I rated this one. wow um So like, and I did not rate Boris and Natasha terribly high. But I think the issues that I had with this one are kind of overwhelming compared to the issues I had with Boris and Natasha. So like, yeah. I will tell you this, every time I watch this,
01:09:31
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i I remember liking it more than I did. It's like, even if I watched this as soon as we were done here, I would still be disappointed by it. Because even though I love it, I'll be like, wait a minute. I thought I liked this more. Like I dig. I really liked it, but I thought I liked this more. Every time I watch it, every even though I know exactly what I'm getting myself into.
01:09:56
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I don't know what's wrong with me. Like it it's that kind of movie. Oh, you know what part really kind of pissed me off? Speaking of like ah audience like call outs and winks to the audience. the The one that was a bridge too far for me was the Who are you talking to? Are you talking to me? Are you talking to me? If that if that had gone on for half as long as it did, it would have been funny.
01:10:17
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but it just kept fucking going. He literally did it the exact same length of time he does it in taxi driver. And that is interminable. It's too much. It's too much. yeah You know, it does make me think of a member of the Chris Farley show. Yeah. It's on S&L and the one where they got Martin Scorsese. And he's like, you remember that? Yeah. You remember that time?
01:10:45
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When you said, are you talking, when Robert De Niro said, are you talking to me? Are you talking to me? I'm the only one here. You got to be talking to me. Could you do that? And you can see Marty just kind of like grimaced a little bit and like frigid uncomfortably. And then he just does it. And it's beautiful. That was awesome. It was awesome. Oh, man. This is bad. Yeah. he was He was one of a kind. One of a kind.
01:11:12
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um The Adventures of Rocky and Bullwinkle opens on June 30th in the year 2000. Yeah. It opens at number five, ah which, you know, not not really the opening you're probably hoping for for your big budget Rocky and Bullwinkle movie. But here we are. um The movie is ah the Reported budget was 76 million. It opens to 6.8 million on its way to 26 million domestic, another 9 million international for a grand total of 35. So it basically ah makes half of its budget back.
01:12:06
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which is not again, not really evidence of the or not evidence that you're going to get a sequel to movies opening at the box office this week at number one and number two. The first, um the Warner Brothers, George Clooney, Mark Wahlberg movie, The Perfect Storm. It's about what if it was what if there was a perfect storm give fuck ah movie in second place, the Patriot.
01:12:32
Speaker
What if there was a Patriot? Mel Gibson, Heath Ledger. sorry yeah My dad owns it. um that's fine It's a dad movie for sure. It's very much a dad movie. I don't mind watching it, but it's not something I would ever watch on my own volition. like if My dad's like, hey, do you want to watch the Patriot? I'm like, yeah, actually I do. But like I would never, I would never sit down and watch it by myself ever.
01:12:53
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Yeah, I don't even think Gibson like directs it either. So no, no, that's that's fucking Roland Emmerich. So yeah, I'm not. It's fine. I mean, it's it has the it's it's fair. It's something. It's watchable. With a few really good moments in third place down from number one, the week before the Farrelly Brothers comedy, Me, Myself and Irene. Well, that's a fucking classic stone in coal is the classic stone cold.
01:13:22
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robin forster you didn't see you haven't seen him read what i read no are you fucking kidding me steven i'm not the guy who goes out of his way to catch up on the fairly brothers yo early fairly brothers ain't nothing in to sneeze with up to and including stuck together or stuck on you that's That's good stuff. Kingpin, fantastic. Dumb and Dumber, the original one, great. ah The movie we were just talking about, what was it? Fucking... Me and Myself and Irene? Yes. I think that's probably their best. I think that's probably, that movie probably has the broadest appeal of any of their films. It's probably the most accessible because, and let me tell you why I say that. My mother loves that movie. It's a movie that my mother and I both love.
01:14:12
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like individually. And it's because Jim Carrey, they knew what he was bringing to the table and they wrote an entire movie around it. And he plays a guy with a split personality where he's just like the sweetest, most wholesome dude, and then like a real son of a bitch, like a Jekyll and Hyde almost. I'm sure it's a very sensitive portrayal of mental illness? ah Yeah. No, but it's too wholesome for its own good, so it doesn't matter. i to Watch it, Steven. Watch it, Steven. Get back to me. I'd put it mid priority. Mid priority. It's a shame that Peter Fairley will never direct another comedy again as long as he lives. That's too bad because he's done so he's done some bad ones, but he's done some good ones. He definitely has the talent for it.
01:15:02
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I'd say more bad than good at this point. At this point, yeah. Like if we want to get into that. But now he's he's firmly up his own ass as the director, producer of Green Book. You know what's weird? I didn't like there's something about Mary.
01:15:17
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And that was during, like, their golden run. And I was going to say that's one of those early ones that you tell me are unilaterally gold. I think that's one of that's probably the most popular film. The first movie, Dumber, Kingpin. There's something about Mary. Then Me, Myself and Irene Osmosis Jones. Shallow Howl Stuck on You. No. Yes. With Greg Knier and Matt Damon. I love that. And Cher, Frankie Munitz and Cher married, as themselves in that movie, it's quite humorous. ah She's taken a younger lover, he might say. And Frankie Betis is like 12 years old.
01:15:56
Speaker
That's like that, uh, what's that Carla Gugino movie with Joseph Gordon-Levitt where he's like, like the Amish boy. I know what you're talking about, but I can't think of that. And he dies. I can't think of it. I know what you're talking about though. But yeah, that was a movie. Fever Pitch in 2005.
01:16:15
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Uh, the heartbreak kid yeah and the the remake of the heartbreak kid, uh, past future episode of this podcast, the three Stooges, um, three segments in movie 43. I don't want to ever want to talk about movie 43 again. Do not ever mention that title next. Which one movie 43? Yes. That's the one next.
01:16:39
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Please delete movie 43 every time, or bleep it rather every time I say it. No, no, no. This will not become the new. He said it.
01:16:53
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but
01:16:57
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ah After movie 43, it's Dumb and Dumber 2. And then a four year break, and then it's Green Book. the greatest beer run ever. And then I i guess he had another comedy at him because then it was Ricky Stenicki. Oh, yeah. It was on Zac Efron John Cena movie. Yeah, that was very that was very polarizing. People either loved it. They thought it was like really, really funny or like the worst movie they'd ever seen. Yeah. And pretty much I actually might see it because that's how a lot of people feel about the early Fairly Brothers stuff. Very polarizing.
01:17:34
Speaker
I mean, it feels like that might be that might be one. And then Bobby, what's Bobby been up to? Because Peter basically did those last three himself. Yeah. So I'm kind of curious now what Bobby's been up to. And all until all accounts say maybe not much. He did a movie called Champions. Wait, was last year in 2023 with Woody Harrelson and with Woody Harrelson. He's coaching the disabled kids, the developmentally disabled kids.
01:18:03
Speaker
Looks like I want to see that really bad, actually directed by Bobby. st i have I have a little I have a little skin in that game and I'd love to see the representation there because I've heard it's very well done. Representation wise, whereas the developmentally disabled kids are not made fun of, but they're right. Part of the joke, not the butt of the joke. You know what I mean? Does that make sense? Yeah, they're part of the comedy, not being like the folks like, you know what I mean?
01:18:31
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That's something the Fairly Brothers have always been kind of good at. Absolutely. That is that is one thing I will give the Fairly Brothers is they've always been very good about that. I'm getting an alert that you're having a problem. Am I having a problem? I don't feel like I'm having a problem. It says media recorder is not working as expected colon inactive. Oh, really? Because I can hear you. You can hear me. I can see my little wiggly lines going. I've got a check mark next to my muff hug and name.
01:19:01
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OK, I say we continue. I'm just saying what it told me, so I figured I want to let you know. um Ernie Hudson in that movie as well, though, dude, yes. ah Caitlin Olsen, Cheech Marin. Yeah, it looks like a pretty good cast on that thing. So, yeah, I might I might check that out, too. And that was a theatrically released one. Well, there you go. Yeah. um But there you go. That's what Bobby's been up to. nice So.
01:19:27
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yeah And then, uh, we were doing me, myself and Irene after that in fourth place, it's chicken run. Oh, I liked that movie. These are all movies that were, typically the pi these were all movies that were at the theater when I first started working there. And I watched chicken run so many times. I love that movie. Never saw the sequel. I'm afraid. I'm afraid to see it. It was a sequel came out on Amazon like last year, I think.
01:19:54
Speaker
Yeah, I think so. I think you're right. I really want to see it, but I'm scared. I call it the Power Man 5000 paradox or the Coed and Cambria paradox, if you will, to where these two bands that I just mentioned, they both made perfect records and they're the only records that I've heard from those bands. So I'm afraid to listen to any of their other records.
01:20:15
Speaker
And so I've never explored the rest of their catalog, even though those two records are some of my favorite records of all time. I will never listen to any of their other music because I'm so scared of being disappointed. And that's the chicken run sequel because I love chicken run. I love it so much. Put that 4k out. I'll buy it. in I will pre-order a 4k of chicken run. In fact, that's all I've been waiting for. Okay.
01:20:42
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In fifth place is the Adventures of Rocking Bullwinkle. Yeah, oh. That that movie that that we were talking about. Yeah, I was like, well, I like that movie that I realized we've been talking about it for an hour and a half. Oh, dude, I like it. Oh, do you see that, Steven? I have. Only just, actually. Only just.
Discussion on Shaft Movies and Martin Lawrence
01:21:01
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ah In sixth place, future episode of this podcast, Shaft. Oh.
01:21:06
Speaker
Yeah. i'm with Samuel Jackson and Christian Bale. I'm excited to see the new new one because it's connected. Yes. To the old also called shafts. Also a future episode of this podcast. Yes, dude. Because I mean, they rebooted that thing twice, ah just called the reboot shaft and like did nothing else with it. So what I need to do, um I don't know when we're planning on doing this, but when when we do ah the the two more modern shaft movies,
01:21:35
Speaker
I need to plan ahead and watch the original three shaft movies because I saw those once when I was a teenager. I own two of those three of them. Well, they've got that nice criterion 4K that comes with the second one as a bonus. That's how I own them both, yes. That's the thing is like I like shaft, but I don't know if I like those original movies enough to invest in the 4K, even though it is kind of a two for one deal.
01:22:01
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, Gordon Parks said both of them. I think that's the only reason they don't have shaft in Africa is because that was directed by a white British dude. And I think I think I'm one of the few people who who Samuel Jackson is kind of my shaft. Like I said, I saw I saw the originals before I saw the like a sequel or reboot, whatever you want to call it, because it is canon with the original series, but it is also like its own thing. um And I remember liking the originals enough to be like, oh, well, then I should see this Sam Jackson one. But like, I really connected with that movie. I really liked that movie. I loved Christian Bale's The Villain. I thought Sam Jackson was great. Like, that's my shaft. Which taken out of context could sound very strange.
01:22:48
Speaker
But that is my shaft. You've already invoked the noose knuckles on this episode. I did. I can't believe I did that. The bar is so low at this point. I did it. Yay. I'm the one. I felt it was necessary, ah but I'm very excited to see this new one. OK. Yeah, i I mean, the only thing that I'm not excited about is that it's directed by Tim Story, and I'm just generally not a huge fan of Tim Story. Oh, I was saying I need to rewatch those first three. Yeah, that's what I was saying. Did I already say that?
01:23:17
Speaker
Okay. I felt like I got there and then like kind of went past it and never came back to it. But yeah, I need to watch this. You didn't need to, but yeah. um In seventh, Big Mama's house. In eighth place, gone in 60 seconds. That's when Martin Lawrence lost me, by the way, Big Mama's house. Big Mama's house. Blue Streak, you got me. Green Knight, yes, please. You got to go to this broadcast, Blue Streak, yeah. Yes, please. Green Knight, yes. Or Black Green Knight. The Black Knight, that's a totally different movie. ah Black Knight, yes, please. Like both those movies are ridiculous and stupid, but damn it, if he isn't the funniest thing I've ever seen in those fucking movies.
01:23:52
Speaker
Love me some Blue Street. Have you seen Blue Street, Steven? Of course I've seen Blue Street. I'm glad. What a silly plot. But it doesn't matter. Boy, they run with it. And Martin Lawrence is just ah good fantastic. And I really like the the really um like ah the chemistry he has with Luke Wilson.
01:24:16
Speaker
which is a weird thing to say because they're so different, but they do kind of have a chemistry that really works in that movie. No, I agree. It really does work well, I think. like to Like him and Tim Robbins too and nothing to lose. I thought that was a pretty good pairing as well. an Unexpected pairing. Agreed. That I quite enjoyed. Agreed. And then um in ninth place, you've got Mission Impossible 2.
01:24:44
Speaker
Oh, yeah, I like that. And it in 10th place, what we thought was going to be an episode of this podcast. But then a movie is coming out literally this weekend makes it not us not able to cover it. Ridley Scott's gladiator Ridley Scott's gladiator. I was not entertained. Oh, really? When I saw that movie, I went like this. Tucker's doing the Joaquin Phoenix thumbs down motion. It's not best and it's just it's the color palette. My brain won't let me enjoy it.
01:25:14
Speaker
That's fine. Yeah, that makes that actually does make a lot of sense. Also in this batch in at 13 future episode of this podcast, Titan. Hey, I like that movie. So there you go. Yeah. And there's some there's some decent stuff deep down in the.
01:25:31
Speaker
ah deep down in there as well, but let's move on to the Tomatometer score for this movie, which is a 42% critics consensus, though the film stays true to the nature of the original cartoon, the script is disappointing and not funny. Agreed? I partially.
01:25:50
Speaker
It comes and it goes. Metascore is 36 based on generally unfavorable reviews from 30 critics. And Tucker want to take a stab at the letterbox score on this one. Oh, I really don't think that the meme culture is really going to appreciate this movie even as something that they want to pretend they like.
01:26:14
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So I'm going to say this is going to go between a, Ooh, gosh. Do I dare get this low? Um, Oof. I feel like I'm taking a big risk here, but I'm the same between. Oh, fuck. Bless you. 2.3. Uh, again, you sneeze twice. Uh, 2.3 and 2.7 Tucker.
01:26:40
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What did I just miss it? The letterbox score. is two point three. Oh, just barely. Oh, man. Whoo. I knew that one was going to be low, dude. Right on the cusp, right on the cusp. That's not that's not like that's not even the kind of humor that meme culture can like make fun of or pretend to like ironically. Right. So I yeah, I can't. Wow. Two point three. Yeah, that. Yeah.
01:27:10
Speaker
What about you, Tucker? What are you giving this one? Uh, this gets, even though I do, um, I flip flop back and forth, um, between this and Boris and Natasha as to which my favorite live ad live action adaptation of Rocky and Boinkle is my favorite, but they are rated the same. This gets a three.
01:27:31
Speaker
Okay. Whereas this one, I gave Boris and Natasha two, I'm giving this one a 1.5. Well, yeah, like just just doesn't doesn't quite get there for me, I'm afraid. So that's fair, completely fair, which, which puts us kind of right at it puts us at 2.25, which is pretty much right at the letterbox average ah for
Podcast Promotion and Social Media Presence
01:27:52
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this movie. So that is our episode on the 2000 film, The Adventures of Rocky and Bullwinkle. um You can find the disenfranchised podcast on most forms of social media, but not Twitter anymore because I fucking nuked the Twitter account. Yeah.
01:28:09
Speaker
um don't actually do that i he probably would enjoy it and i don't want him to get any enjoyment out of life but um yeah just fuck fuck twitter we're done with that uh burning that shit to the ground as best we can um so yeah uh not on twitter but on a couple of the others uh you can find us and uh yeah when you do go out there to find us uh swing by uh spotify or um Apple podcast give us a five-star rating and review. That's probably the best way for us to find other other members of our Greater audience Tucker you have a thought I do ah you just mentioned Spotify and I wanted to um Something I did something this week and I wanted to let Spotify users know um if you use Spotify and you're also a member of our patreon and you can connect those two accounts and you can stream all of our Patreon exclusive content. ah If you're a free tier member, you can stream all of the, of the why would you? Cause it's already on there. Anyway, if you're a $5 member, you can stream all the Patreon content on Spotify if you link your account.
01:29:21
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01:29:52
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Yeah, i've I've kind of always been out on Apple, so i I just feel a little more vindicated now. Look, ever since Steve Jobs died, I think the company has kind of been going in a pretty shitty direction, but they are still the best laptop and desktop computer computers for creative work. And that's why I purchased. I had been back on Windows for such a long time, but when I started editing this podcast, hardcore had my MacBook.
01:30:23
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dude you gotta do man yeah when you're doing audio video editing you can do it on windows you can do on linux you can do it on whatever but mac is kind of where it's at for that shit yeah well fuck apple man fuck those motherfuckers tim apple tim apple motherfucker Motherfucker. Anyway. Anyway. um And yeah, leave us ah leave us a review, too, when you're out there on the Internet um reviewing us, because that that does go a long way to helping us find people. And if you got something you want to say to our faces, you can either drop it in the comments at Patreon dot com slash disenfranch pod on the free level. That is the official chat of the disenfranchised podcast. Or you can shoot us an email.
01:31:15
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Disinfranchpod at gmail.com. Or if you're frisky, you can call me at area code.
01:31:28
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That's my actual phone number. Are you going to bleep that out or? Fuck yeah, I am. OK.
01:31:37
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It's just it's kind of like it's one of those things like remember when I had Brett say where he worked the other day. Yeah. It's kind of it's freeing to say even though you know that you're not going to bleep it out, you feel kind of dirty saying it anyway. I did that on ah on the first podcast I was ever on. I gave out my co-host email address. And this is my social security number. My mother's maiden name is my first grade teacher. The street I grew up on was. Yeah.
01:32:06
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Oh, yeah. Hey, I just fixed my credit, so I have to bleep all that out. so Yeah. dev do In that case, yeah, you definitely do. Just fixed it. It's been 20 years and I just got it fixed. Been working hard, man.
01:32:21
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I am your host, Stephen Foxworthy. You can find me on social media at Chewy Walrus, wherever you can think to find me. Don't find me on Twitter. I'm not fucking there anymore. I deleted that shit. um Brett Wright, who is our co-host, who was enrolled in winter classes at Wasamata U.
01:32:42
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Not able to join us because he's catching up on his schoolwork. You can find him on Letterboxd and Instagram at sus underscore warlock. He actually has been posting a little bit more on blue sky lately at sus warlock. So. Oh wow. Yeah. Tucker, what about you? of ski days Straight up. Good old blue ski. Same as it ever was Steven. I'm on Instagram but and YouTube.
01:33:07
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at ice 909. That's I C E N I N E. And to clarify, it's the number zero. And the number nine, not the letter. Oh, smart ass.
01:33:24
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Also, those moments where I was like, if you don't know me bad now, sing it. You never, never, never, no, no, you won't. Hmm. I found out what I already knew there, Steven, that you can also find me at Tuckmugs on Instagrams. That's ah Tuck underscore mugs. That's T-U-C-K underscore M-U the letter G and the letter S. And ah you know, we haven't put anything out in a while, but that's fine. Whatever. It's like it's like a little treat. You know, every couple of months when a Tuckmugs post comes out, you're like, oh,
01:34:06
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Look at that. It's been, you could have get them all the time. It wouldn't be special. You could have a mug as a treat. Right. Right. You do something that's really rad too consistently and it it becomes less rad. It does by, by proxy. Yeah. You got to let some time pass. But like if I saw florist every night, it would, it would stop being a spiritual experience for me, Steven. Probably. I see him about every year and a half and wow. Wow.
01:34:36
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Just refreshes me and brings me back. Yeah. So go to Tuckmugs. Uh, at some point there'll be some more content and hey, if you're sick of waiting around for Tuckmugs content, look, be the change you want to see in the world. Send us your mug. That's it. Send us your mug. You know the format. And if you don't follow us, check it out. Check out a couple posts. It's not difficult. Send us a photo of your mug.
01:35:01
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ah Tell us a little story about it, you know, the origin of it or why it is spatial to you, why it is your spatial treasure, why it exists and it' time for you. Yeah. Yes. And also what's in it? Not difficult. Look, you want to share your mugs. I realize this, but you'd be like, oh, well, who gives a fuck about my mug? I do. Tucker Tucker does. I give a fuck about your mug. Tucker gives so many fucks about your mugs. Love mugs. Mugs is my shit.
01:35:29
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In fact, I have actually, now that I think about it, I want to remind me tomorrow, Steven, I will have a post because when on the day of my marriage, right? October 31st, 2024. Yes. Uh, we celebrated afterwards. We left the courthouse and we went to this new Mexican place on the road and, uh, it was really good.
01:35:55
Speaker
And you know how in like the country restaurants in, in the rural areas on the placemats, they have all the ads for local places or they'll be on the coffee cup. You know, yeah it was like that, but it's on a pint glass. That's awesome. And I was like, I love this. And ah to our waiter, I was like, how can I buy this glass? And he's like, no, you can just have it.
01:36:19
Speaker
And, uh, I dig that. That's the abridged version of the story that you will hear on Tuck Mugs very soon about my new pint glass from Cinco's Cinco. Yeah, dude. Yo. And for anybody who doesn't know, um, as, as you probably all know, I am a vegetarian. I was bitten by a vegetarian 10 years ago and I turned and, um,
01:36:43
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I've been one since, uh, but I decided to take what I call a V squared, a vegetarian vacation this winter in between the months of November and January, where I will eat some meat. And so I have been slowly reintroducing my body to animal products. And on that day.
01:37:06
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I love spinach enchiladas. And on that day, I had spinach enchiladas with chicken in them, grilled chicken. um And they were very, very good. I believe it. barry now i love and like that's That's why I'm really happy about how this veg vegetarian vacation is going. Because I'm eating the meat and I'm enjoying it. But I'm also at the end of the day, I'm like, yeah, but I don't really care. like im in January, I'm going to stop this and I'm not even going to think about it like right. This is great for now, but I've spent so long not eating it that it's good.
Vegetarian Vacation Experience
01:37:43
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But I really don't fucking care. Yeah, I don't care that much. It's not a big deal. Yeah, like yeah dude, and I had McDonald's the other day for the first time in several years because outside of the salads, there's nothing you can get there that has not been touched by a dead animal. Right. Correct.
01:38:00
Speaker
But I did have a bacon McDouble, uh, and a McChicken, which I always love the McChickens. If I know that's like the pink slime process bullshit, but it's so tasty. It's the and the mayonnaise is like, hmm. Yes. The seasoning on that chicken. Yes. No, I'm right there with you. It's perfect. And I ate it and oh, it was so good, but I don't ever want to eat McDonald's again because I felt like complete shit after I was going to say, you feel really gross afterwards, but when you're eating it, it feels so good. Oh, so good. Afterwards, I was like, that was almost worth it, but not worth it. I'm not doing that ever again. Fuck that. Yup. Yup. Yup. Yup. That's about right. Anyway, tuck mugs. Check out tuck mugs, tuck underscore mugs on Instagram. So that's where you can find me on straight up the socialist of all meadows, medias.
01:38:51
Speaker
Uh, yeah, the social, well, I mean, uh, I'm a progressive, so technically I would consider myself probably to be a democratic socialist, but that's not what I meant. The most social of medias is what I meant to say. And on that note, as Sarah Sherman did a really funny impression of Bernie Sanders on this most recent SNL, and you should just watch that whole episode.
01:39:15
Speaker
Like Charlie XCX, I don't get it. Like that music's not for me and I don't understand it. I don't care for it. But she's a fantastic host. She's so good in that episode. And it's I think it's the best episode of the season so far. I heard they did a sequel to one of my least favorite sketches of the year so far. That the Domingo sketch. No, which I did not. Oh, no. Yes, yes, yes. It's better, though. See, I didn't like the first one either.
01:39:42
Speaker
But they brought it back and they did it right. I feel like they did it right this time. I like it a lot better. A lot better. I, yeah, I kind of thought that was overrated and I didn't really care for it. So it was a waste of Ariana Grande, which was about a third of that episode because she's a great host too. She is fantastic. She's hilarious. Yeah. Agree. And I really didn't care for the Bill Burr episode last week either.
01:40:06
Speaker
Uh, I think the first half was good, but the post update sketches, specifically the 10 to one sketch, I just didn't think had any steam to them. I really liked the sketch where they called their dads. That one was, um, that one. I really liked that one. And I liked the callback to the, um, the Duncan commercial. It was the same guys, as him and Mikey day, the Boston guys.
01:40:32
Speaker
Uh, that was nice, but the one where they called their dads was really cool. Not only cause it was really funny. I thought it was really clever, but that's my dad is Bill Burr in that sketch. Like he always asked me how my car is doing. Like how to Sam, it like so accurate. Well, I'll talk to you later.
01:40:52
Speaker
yeah but Well, nice talking to you. I liked his monologue too. I thought his monologue was really funny. I didn't care for it, but whatever. I liked it. To each their own. But yeah, that is our episode on 2000's Rocky and Bullwinkle. Somehow, we maybe talked about this movie for a half an hour total in this hour and 40-minute long episode. There's not a lot to say. Not really. You'll see it for yourself if you're interested. Sure. You can rent it. I did.
01:41:21
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Um, so yeah, there you go. Um, but yeah, until next time, uh, I'm your host, Steven Foxworthy for the absent Brett Wright and the very present Tucker. Um, let's hope he doesn't get canceled between now and the next episode. Uh, but until then, dude, you you, if anyone's going to get canceled for this episode, it's going to be, you know, no, but I'm like, I'm, I present myself as being a little, maybe a little dumber than I actually am.
01:41:50
Speaker
And I think that works for like my wholesome factor. So I feel like I can get away with a little bit more because I present myself as being kind of dumb. um not I'm not really, I'm not really dumb. I just play dumb on TV or on podcasts. I know. And you're very good at it. I will say that. Thank you. Thank you. I've had a lot of practice. But until next time, watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat, whatever the fuck. I don't care. Yeah, bye. Bye.