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S1 E36 Cyn Shrader Hill, Self-published Author/Editor/Publisher.

S1 E36 · SIPA Paranormal Chronicles
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Cyn comes back to talk about her new book – Deaths Doorstep (Near Death Experiences, Angel Rescues and Spirit Warnings. (Since the recording, Cyn has released another book)

We first did a loving shout out to our Friend, and host of Let’s get Freaky podcast, Tommy Cullum.

Some of the stories mentioned in the book, are Bulletproof, Do not Disturb and Voodoo Doll (a story of Possession)

Thanks to Cyn for including two of my personal stories, Top hat and tails, and you know when your time is up.

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Transcript

Intro

Introduction and Guest Reintroduction

00:00:12
Lee Hatfield
Hello everybody and welcome to the latest episode of SEPA Paranormal Chronicles. My name is Lee and I'm the host in case anybody's forgot. And for all you avid fans, if you can remember back to episode 11, we had a wonderful and funny talking American by the name of Sin Schrader-Hill.
00:00:36
Lee Hatfield
And she spoke about EVPs, but she's back. She's back tonight. Sin, welcome.
00:00:45
Cyn Shrader Hill
You know, i don't know whether I should be excited that you called me funny talking or not. don't
00:00:54
Lee Hatfield
Oh, come on. I speak the king's English. Well, it used to be the queen's English. It's now the king's English.
00:00:59
Cyn Shrader Hill
But they do say do they do say Southern English, you know, the way we talk like that this down here is is very closely related to the British English.
00:00:59
Lee Hatfield
So.
00:01:09
Lee Hatfield
How dare you say that? get out I'm going to pause you right this
00:01:13
Lee Hatfield
I'm going to stop this recording right this second.

New Book: 'Death's Doorstep'

00:01:17
Lee Hatfield
It's great to have you back, and there is a reason why we have you back, but we'll come on to that in a minute. So how are you, my darling?
00:01:23
Cyn Shrader Hill
I am great. And it's so good to see you and talk to you again.
00:01:29
Lee Hatfield
See, lot of people are saying that. One of these days, i'm gonna if I go missing, I'm going to turn up it shackled in Tennessee or somewhere.
00:01:38
Cyn Shrader Hill
probably You
00:01:39
Lee Hatfield
Yeah, and I'd just like to have a shout out to Tommy Cullen because apparently I am Sin's favourite British person. Tommy's now dropped down to second. So, Tommy, when you listen to this, thumbs up for me.
00:01:57
Cyn Shrader Hill
have to quantify that. You have to quantify that.
00:01:59
Lee Hatfield
so
00:02:01
Cyn Shrader Hill
It's Tommy's my favorite second favorite ginger.
00:02:05
Lee Hatfield
Yeah, second favourite.
00:02:05
Cyn Shrader Hill
You're favorite
00:02:06
Lee Hatfield
There we go.
00:02:07
Cyn Shrader Hill
my favorite British Canadian now.
00:02:09
Lee Hatfield
yeah
00:02:12
Cyn Shrader Hill
yeah You're in Canada.
00:02:14
Lee Hatfield
Stop sucking up.
00:02:17
Cyn Shrader Hill
I love you both.
00:02:19
Lee Hatfield
OK, let's leave it at that.
00:02:21
Cyn Shrader Hill
Yes.
00:02:21
Lee Hatfield
OK, so you have just released a book. That's why you are come back so soon.
00:02:30
Cyn Shrader Hill
yes
00:02:30
Lee Hatfield
The book is called Death's Doorstep. So before we go into Death's Doorstep, how did this book come about?
00:02:41
Cyn Shrader Hill
It came about because of my fourth book, The Signs. It's Not Goodbye, Signs From Beyond. When I brought that book out, that's about near-death experiences, angel rescues, near misses, dreams and visions of our past loved ones, including pets, signs that we get
00:02:56
Lee Hatfield
the industrial side to it, it feels very much like free home, but with the bonus of being in the pay.
00:03:03
Cyn Shrader Hill
bird's feathers. We've got coins. We've got, you can smell their perfume. a special song comes on. All those things. And when I brought that book out, I had so many people coming up to me saying, I've got a story for you.
00:03:13
Lee Hatfield
storeition
00:03:18
Cyn Shrader Hill
I've got a sign from my dad. I've gotten a sign from my pet. I've gotten this. I've gotten that. So i was going to have to do a sequel to that book.
00:03:25
Lee Hatfield
Yeah, let's see what else is.
00:03:30
Cyn Shrader Hill
In writing the sequel, I was getting so many near-death experiences, I thought needed to pull those, The Angel Rescue and Spirit Warnings, into the book.
00:03:44
Cyn Shrader Hill
This one just came out the It's Not Goodbye 2, More Signs from Beyond, will be out at the end of August.

Writing Journey and Published Works

00:03:54
Lee Hatfield
You could have saved that bit till the end, but okay, but you mentioned it now.
00:03:58
Cyn Shrader Hill
You asked.
00:04:00
Lee Hatfield
Okay. So you mentioned about the signs and like all these stories. So how long did it actually collate take you to collate all these stories?
00:04:07
Cyn Shrader Hill
so
00:04:14
Cyn Shrader Hill
I started collecting these stories right after the book was published. The signs book was published. And honestly, I'd have to look back and see when that came out because it's been, I've slept since then.
00:04:22
Lee Hatfield
every
00:04:30
Cyn Shrader Hill
So this was 2022. The signs book came out.
00:04:33
Lee Hatfield
Really? Really?
00:04:34
Cyn Shrader Hill
Yeah.
00:04:34
Lee Hatfield
You've slept?
00:04:35
Cyn Shrader Hill
I have a little bit.
00:04:36
Lee Hatfield
so
00:04:37
Cyn Shrader Hill
And so I know, right?
00:04:37
Lee Hatfield
That would explain i would explain so much.
00:04:41
Lee Hatfield
yes
00:04:42
Cyn Shrader Hill
So when that came out in 2022, other stories started coming and I had to put everything on hold to do Mark's cookbook.
00:04:54
Lee Hatfield
the one
00:04:56
Cyn Shrader Hill
So Mark Elliott Fultz is the one that does the the illustrations and the covers of all of my books.
00:04:59
Lee Hatfield
Wow. Whole...
00:05:03
Cyn Shrader Hill
And in turn, I edit his.
00:05:05
Lee Hatfield
you
00:05:06
Cyn Shrader Hill
So his cookbook took 14 and a half months.
00:05:08
Lee Hatfield
remember the three
00:05:11
Cyn Shrader Hill
It has 1788 recipes in it. it's a
00:05:15
Lee Hatfield
wow
00:05:16
Cyn Shrader Hill
it's a it's an old it's an old phone book Look how thick it is. It's an old phone book of recipes.
00:05:22
Lee Hatfield
hold
00:05:26
Cyn Shrader Hill
And it took my life away from me. So he told me as soon as that one came out at the end of last year, he said, okay, you take this next year and you do you.
00:05:40
Cyn Shrader Hill
i will I will do any of the illustrations you need. You just, 2025, you do you. So there we go.
00:05:50
Lee Hatfield
Well, that was nice of him to give you a year off.
00:05:53
Cyn Shrader Hill
Right. Basically. Kind of.
00:05:58
Lee Hatfield
Oh, my God. So what i know that we spoke about it when we interviewed you in episode 11 back in the spring or whenever it was.
00:06:11
Lee Hatfield
how many but Just in my mind, how many books you've written and what number book this is?
00:06:17
Cyn Shrader Hill
This is the sixth. This is number six. So I started, first book came out in 2018 and this is number six.
00:06:21
Lee Hatfield
Wow. See?
00:06:24
Lee Hatfield
so you will
00:06:27
Cyn Shrader Hill
Number seven will be done in just a few weeks.
00:06:32
Lee Hatfield
wow
00:06:33
Cyn Shrader Hill
I've got, I've got at least three or four others in my head that need to come out.
00:06:33
Lee Hatfield
see
00:06:41
Cyn Shrader Hill
So, and then I've got other ideas. So it's just a process.
00:06:48
Lee Hatfield
I can imagine. And yeah, if people see me looking down, I do actually have the book on my iPad in front of me. So there's how many stories? Can you remember off top of your head?
00:07:02
Cyn Shrader Hill
I can't off the top of my head.
00:07:04
Lee Hatfield
Oh, come on,

Stories of Spirit Guides and Mysterious Mind Workings

00:07:05
Lee Hatfield
Sid. You wrote the damn thing.
00:07:06
Cyn Shrader Hill
I mean, did.
00:07:06
Lee Hatfield
Come on.
00:07:09
Cyn Shrader Hill
did. uh, I don't know. It's, uh, you know, I've, I've moved on from this one and I started the signs, but there's 35 chapters if that helps.
00:07:21
Lee Hatfield
OK, let's just leave it at 35 chapters. Yeah. And there's a lot more stories. And there's some really cool stories as well. So I know that I don't want to get you to talk about every single story because then people won't buy it. But then we could release this episode as an audio book.
00:07:41
Lee Hatfield
so you could possibly So we could do that anyway. So did any one story like stand out or really make you stop and think?
00:07:57
Cyn Shrader Hill
More than one, actually. and this This book has so many different things that have happened to people that just make you scratch your head and and just how did they get through that?
00:08:04
Lee Hatfield
like
00:08:12
Cyn Shrader Hill
Or how did they see this and the other person saw this in their experience? And they're just incredible stories.
00:08:24
Cyn Shrader Hill
And... I have to say that I enjoyed Top Hat and Tails from someone that we all know and love.
00:08:31
Lee Hatfield
<unk> don't Don't tell. I'm coming to that later. Don't mention don't mention that person.
00:08:38
Cyn Shrader Hill
I didn't. I just said we all know and love.
00:08:41
Lee Hatfield
but But is that is your favorite Brit? But well we'll talk about that later.
00:08:47
Lee Hatfield
Okay. So compared to how many stories, and yeah, it does sound like I'm stalling before we go into it to some of the stories. And it's true. I am. but But how many stories didn't make the cut, so to speak, out of how many that you have?
00:09:07
Lee Hatfield
There is a question that you didn't think you'd get asked.
00:09:09
Cyn Shrader Hill
Oh, no. Actually, there was only, i think, one I pulled out just because it just did not fit the narrative.
00:09:23
Cyn Shrader Hill
It just, it just, to me, It wasn't a spirit warning, angel rescue, or near death experience.
00:09:33
Cyn Shrader Hill
It just wasn't. And so it just didn't belong in this book. There is the the the person that submitted it also submitted another one, and that one is in the book.
00:09:50
Cyn Shrader Hill
So he was fine with that. He understood totally.
00:09:55
Lee Hatfield
So you you kind of have a ah ah subtitle of Death's Doorstep, Near Death Experiences, Angel Rescues and Spirit Warnings.
00:10:07
Lee Hatfield
So do you have precise definitions of what each one of those three categories are?
00:10:14
Cyn Shrader Hill
To me, yes.

Defining Spiritual Themes in 'Death's Doorstep'

00:10:16
Cyn Shrader Hill
To me.
00:10:17
Lee Hatfield
can you please Can you please explain what those three mean to you, please?
00:10:20
Cyn Shrader Hill
Absolutely. So near-death experience is, in this particular book, there are people that came very near to death without dying.
00:10:32
Cyn Shrader Hill
There are others that actually crossed that line and were brought back. So that one is either or.
00:10:45
Cyn Shrader Hill
And they both have had amazing experiences. Glimpsing the other side, seeing dark or seeing light, just different things.
00:11:01
Cyn Shrader Hill
Some people talked about a tunnel moving fast, a bright light, maybe seeing loved ones talking to them. everybody had a different experience, but there was a lot of the same ideas that came up.
00:11:16
Cyn Shrader Hill
In Angel Rescues, its it's those near misses, I think, that I've been involved in to myself.
00:11:18
Lee Hatfield
it
00:11:27
Cyn Shrader Hill
And i I know somebody was in the car with me. I know. felt them. And I could not tell you who it was. thought...
00:11:37
Cyn Shrader Hill
i thought the last The last one I had on the interstate, i I felt like it was my father sitting in the car with me. In the very first one that happened, I don't know who it was. All I can say is it was a guardian angel that was there with me.
00:11:57
Cyn Shrader Hill
can't say who it was. But in spirit warnings, it's the little... things that happen. People even get phone calls from spirits sometimes.
00:12:10
Cyn Shrader Hill
And or that gut feeling, just don't go yet. Don't go to that space today. Don't do this today.
00:12:22
Cyn Shrader Hill
Or anything from
00:12:26
Cyn Shrader Hill
dropping your keys and having to pick them up, losing something at the last minute, having to go back and find it, and it puts you off maybe 20 minutes.
00:12:30
Lee Hatfield
Thank you.
00:12:36
Cyn Shrader Hill
And then you just missed a horrific accident because of it. So that's what all of these stories entail.
00:12:47
Lee Hatfield
It's actually quite interesting because what when I started reading some of the stories, and I've not read all of them. Some of us actually do something called work. you You might not be familiar with, but yeah some of us have to do it.
00:13:01
Lee Hatfield
And it reminded me of a a job that I went to when I was a paramedic. And I went to this little house in a small village where somebody was experiencing chest pains.
00:13:13
Lee Hatfield
Little old lady came to the picket fence to say, my husband's upstairs. So me and my colleague, Steve, we got had all equipment. Steve was talking to the wife.
00:13:24
Lee Hatfield
I go upstairs into the bedroom and the wife slowly comes up the stairs and Steve's following a while he's talking to getting the information. What's your husband's name? Has he got any medical problems? I go into the bedroom and this guy is left is rolled on his left-hand side.
00:13:39
Lee Hatfield
So I said to him, would do you mind rolling over so I can assess you? And as soon as he rolled over, he cardiac arrested. Yeah, and I did that. i did My jaw dropped and I went,
00:13:54
Lee Hatfield
Oh, crap. but ah ah Steve, have you have you got a minute? What's up? I went, can you just come in? And I went, what? I went, he's just arrested. And he went, okay. So we started doing it and we shocked this guy once and he came back immediately to the point where he was talking. He went, my chest really hurts. as well ah ah Yeah, dude, I'll put the paddles on you.
00:14:16
Lee Hatfield
And I shocked you. We got him to the hospital and... I handed him over to the nurses. About two weeks later, me and Steve are working together again.
00:14:31
Lee Hatfield
We go to the same hospital and we bring this patient in, broken leg or whatever. And there was a guy in this in this cubicle. And he went, yo, you. Look at him. Okay, what?
00:14:43
Lee Hatfield
Right. You're talking to me. went, yeah, you, come here. I'm thinking, yeah yeah I didn't recognize the guy, I thought, some weird old guy. And he went, aren't you the guy that like tried to kill me of the other week?
00:14:55
Lee Hatfield
And I went, no, dude. i want oh Then I recognized him. I went, no, I'm the one that brought you back. He went, yeah, that's it. With that with that with that machine, didn't you? went, yeah. but How are you doing? Oh, I've had chest pain since then, so I'm back in.
00:15:07
Lee Hatfield
And then a year later, we got called to him again. And as soon we as soon as as we stay as soon as we pulled in, I went, no, it can't be the same house.
00:15:16
Cyn Shrader Hill
No.
00:15:18
Lee Hatfield
And it was the same house. I walked in and went, you, hospital, now. And he went, oh, it's you again. so like three times. And it was so funny.
00:15:26
Cyn Shrader Hill
Wow.
00:15:27
Lee Hatfield
But reading those stories, that's what absolutely, that reminded me of that little old guy. And it was like, it was really, really fun. Okay, so... we've already mentioned that you've dedicated this book book to Greg instead of me and he's your husband. So I'm going to let that pass.
00:15:44
Lee Hatfield
Okay.
00:15:45
Cyn Shrader Hill
I appreciate it.
00:15:47
Lee Hatfield
Yeah. So I'm just going to pick a couple of around a couple of random stories that if we can talk about, and I won't be a smart ass and go, okay, can you talk about the author's note?
00:16:00
Lee Hatfield
Or can you talk about the forward? I'm going to actually pick up pick a proper story. So one that, really straight away bulletproof.
00:16:12
Lee Hatfield
can you talk to about that one, please? Yeah, been very appreciative fact that should be broad and open space again, celebration structurally
00:16:14
Cyn Shrader Hill
Yes. Yes.
00:16:19
Cyn Shrader Hill
That is, that is my friend JK. And I think I've given his information to you to reach out to him. he's a fantastic guy.
00:16:30
Cyn Shrader Hill
He, is a military veteran and he has been through a lot.
00:16:35
Lee Hatfield
but kitchen
00:16:38
Cyn Shrader Hill
If, if anybody has an angel, he does.
00:16:42
Lee Hatfield
you
00:16:42
Cyn Shrader Hill
And it's because of that story, you know he has got an angel with him. He had bullets flying all around him during the war.
00:16:55
Cyn Shrader Hill
And ah he he even... he could feel them go by him. They were so close. he was He's the gunner in in the tank, in the Humvee.
00:17:09
Cyn Shrader Hill
And so the that guy, the gunner, is

Tales of Guardian Angels and Near-Death Experiences

00:17:15
Cyn Shrader Hill
the one that is the most exposed.
00:17:15
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:17:18
Cyn Shrader Hill
So if someone is going to get hit when they go in it's going to be the gunner. And he did not get hit.
00:17:31
Cyn Shrader Hill
He was... They were ambushed. They... but Something came up that... he heard a voice tell him, do not go this morning.
00:17:47
Cyn Shrader Hill
Do not. And the car blew up that did go.
00:17:48
Lee Hatfield
The character just...
00:17:53
Cyn Shrader Hill
He's got an angel. He's got, he, he did not know at the time that he had so many around him, but he has since gotten in touch with the paranormal side and learning more about. And AJ is who taught him.
00:18:13
Cyn Shrader Hill
So our friend mutual friend AJ Capuso. So he learned that he had several spirit guides around him and they were very protective of him.
00:18:19
Lee Hatfield
and thinking of how we change it to see more. But yeah, it's a good time to then think.
00:18:28
Cyn Shrader Hill
I think his is an incredible credible story and I wanted Mark to do an illustration of his story and he did.
00:18:38
Lee Hatfield
Well, so it's interesting that you you mentioned spirit guides. So in your personal opinion, because obviously you can't answer for everybody, does everybody have a spirit guide?
00:18:53
Cyn Shrader Hill
that's a really hard question. i I would think if
00:19:00
Cyn Shrader Hill
I mean, we're all made of the same stuff, even though we might believe differently and honor a certain God over another.
00:19:13
Cyn Shrader Hill
We have different religions. We have different beliefs. We have different everything. But yet we're all really the same. We're made of muscle and bone and nerves and blood. And, you know, it's we've all we're all energy, all of us.
00:19:32
Cyn Shrader Hill
So why couldn't we all have spirit guides around us?
00:19:32
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:19:37
Cyn Shrader Hill
It's just are you open to it or not?
00:19:37
Lee Hatfield
through
00:19:39
Cyn Shrader Hill
I think is the real question.
00:19:43
Lee Hatfield
And that, I know this is about you, but it also brings back another story that when I was a firefighter, cutting a long story short, there was a small van parked behind a truck.
00:19:55
Lee Hatfield
And then another truck came in and hit the small van. And when we pulled the second truck away, they the small van was like a concertina.
00:20:08
Lee Hatfield
The driver was absolutely dead. I won't go into any more detail. But one of the bystanders actually said, oh, while they because they were they were waiting at a junction ready to turn whichever way were going to turn. and one of the passers-by said, oh, there was two people in the van.
00:20:28
Lee Hatfield
So we're kind of pulling it back like a concertina and cutting. And then we saw a hand and we reached out to grab the hand and it grabbed us. and the And the passenger was still alive.
00:20:39
Cyn Shrader Hill
Wow.
00:20:39
Lee Hatfield
And basically a split second before, this this one should have been in your book really, but I just remembered it now. Before the crash happened, he dropped something in the footwell of the vehicle and the wreckage went straight over the top of him.
00:20:53
Lee Hatfield
And he actually walked out of that wreck with just cuts and bruises.
00:20:57
Cyn Shrader Hill
Incredible.
00:20:59
Lee Hatfield
Yeah. So, you you mentioned about guardian angels. Yeah. lot A lot of people would just say he was lucky.
00:21:06
Cyn Shrader Hill
Right.
00:21:07
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:21:07
Cyn Shrader Hill
And coincidental.
00:21:07
Lee Hatfield
Because that's exactly that.
00:21:08
Cyn Shrader Hill
Yeah.
00:21:09
Lee Hatfield
And that's just human nature. But for you to be less than a foot away from somebody who was killed outright, I know you've got is a couple of scratches and cuts.
00:21:21
Cyn Shrader Hill
yeah how yeah how did that happen how in the world it's I've I've come to a point in my life that I just don't believe in coincidences anymore I don't I think there's a reason everything happens and uh the fact that
00:21:21
Lee Hatfield
Is there something out there? Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.
00:21:44
Cyn Shrader Hill
that passenger drop something at that particular moment. Not a second too soon, not a second too late, but then.
00:21:55
Cyn Shrader Hill
it's It has to be some kind of divine intervention, if nothing else. i just That's just how I have to believe.
00:22:05
Lee Hatfield
yeah which it makes sense yeah yeah if you believe in god if you believe in yeah heaven and all that stuff yeah he was kept alive for a reason
00:22:17
Cyn Shrader Hill
Absolutely.
00:22:19
Lee Hatfield
He may not ever know what that reason is, but he was kept alive for a reason.
00:22:21
Cyn Shrader Hill
No.
00:22:26
Lee Hatfield
But like say, that one should have been in the book as well, but eight and one.
00:22:28
Cyn Shrader Hill
Yes, it should have. up
00:22:31
Lee Hatfield
but
00:22:31
Cyn Shrader Hill
Well, now now we know now we know there's going to be a sequel to this one.
00:22:31
Lee Hatfield
But you rushed You rushed me. you washed me Yeah.
00:22:45
Lee Hatfield
OK, this one I have not read, but it kind of intrigues me. Do not disturb.
00:22:55
Cyn Shrader Hill
that is my friend Sarah. She had an experience that is quite extraordinary. She and her husband
00:23:07
Cyn Shrader Hill
at the time, I don't, yeah, I think it was, I don't think they were married. I think it was a boyfriend. They had a child and they were taking him to Walt Disney World before Christmas.
00:23:20
Cyn Shrader Hill
And they did. And they had a great holiday and came back home to New York. And she started getting sick around Christmas. And by sick, I mean she was having trouble with TMJ, you know, the jaw.
00:23:39
Cyn Shrader Hill
And she ended up a lot of pain going to the hospital. And they said, it's just TMJ. Go home.
00:23:49
Lee Hatfield
family
00:23:50
Cyn Shrader Hill
lie down, take your muscle relaxers, and quit bothering us. So there are too many sick people here. Go home. She almost bit her finger off by trying to put something in her mouth.
00:24:10
Cyn Shrader Hill
And she couldn't feed herself at one point. Her family was having to feed her. They can only get a little bit of mashed potatoes down her.
00:24:23
Cyn Shrader Hill
So she goes back to this emergency room where they berate her again and say, look, lady, you're just wanting attention.
00:24:31
Lee Hatfield
What we need to talk about, how we have done here.
00:24:34
Cyn Shrader Hill
You're a drama queen. Go home. It's Christmas. We've got a lot of sick people here. We don't have time for you. Sent her home. She ended up calling her primary care doctor and saying, doctor, something is wrong.
00:24:52
Cyn Shrader Hill
This is not me. i don't know exactly what it is. He said, meet me at the emergency room. So she goes back to the same emergency room. He comes in immediately, takes a tongue depressor, puts it in her mouth and she clamps it, breaks it in two And he screams, she's got tetanus.
00:25:14
Cyn Shrader Hill
What is wrong with you people? She had lockjaw.
00:25:20
Lee Hatfield
Wow.
00:25:20
Cyn Shrader Hill
So she had contracted. The only thing they could figure out was in the big cat section of Walt Disney World. She had sandals on.
00:25:33
Cyn Shrader Hill
For whatever reason, they believe that she probably, she had taken her sandals off for a second because they were rubbing a blister on her foot.
00:25:45
Cyn Shrader Hill
So if there's any break in the skin a certain dirt or bacteria or anything can get into your system through that open area in the skin, and that's the only thing they could figure out, that there were some cats a around that had that under their claws and it was in the dirt there.
00:26:13
Cyn Shrader Hill
So... she had to be induced into a coma.
00:26:19
Cyn Shrader Hill
Otherwise so she would have, the spasms were so bad. She would have broken her back. She was, she was arching her back unnaturally.
00:26:31
Cyn Shrader Hill
Like you see in the possession movies, except very unnaturally. And they said, if we don't put you into a coma, it'll be inhumane.
00:26:43
Lee Hatfield
well
00:26:43
Cyn Shrader Hill
So they had to do that. when you When you go into a medically induced coma, and you'll know this, is you're not supposed to remember anything. They have amnesia drugs that they give you. You don't remember anything. So you aren't aware to pull out tubes. You don't, you know, you aren't able to react to anything. You're just there in a goldfish state.
00:27:12
Cyn Shrader Hill
except she wasn't.
00:27:15
Cyn Shrader Hill
She had visitors and it was her grandparents and a favorite uncle, one of her aunts that was distant, but she remembered her and then some other people and they were singing Christmas carols to her around her bed and they were touching her and saying, we love you.
00:27:16
Lee Hatfield
sort
00:27:37
Cyn Shrader Hill
and All this stuff. And she, when she finally did come to, she was telling them about this and they said, it's impossible. You, there's no way you could have heard or seen or done anything. And she said, but I did.
00:27:56
Cyn Shrader Hill
But I did. So that was... You know, she she finished her story with, you know, there's only a very few people that get tetanus.
00:28:10
Cyn Shrader Hill
And there's also very few people that win the lottery. So why couldn't have been that instead of, hi you know, but imagine going through and having yeah ER r saying, go home.
00:28:17
Lee Hatfield
Yeah, yeah.
00:28:22
Cyn Shrader Hill
You're not sick. Go home. You're just a drama queen. And being actually, very very sick
00:28:31
Lee Hatfield
Wow. Yeah. Like say, yeah I can relate to that story being in the medical profession myself. And unfortunately, it does happen at times when people are not believed by the healthcare professionals.
00:28:45
Cyn Shrader Hill
mm-hmm yeah
00:28:47
Lee Hatfield
But to have all these spirits visit her
00:28:54
Lee Hatfield
Were they there to protect her so that she didn't cross over? Yeah. what was i wonder what the purpose was of them actually being in that room. Were they there to help her to come back yeah or to stop her from crossing over? It's it's interesting.
00:29:12
Cyn Shrader Hill
i think I think it could have been either. I think they could have been there for support, but yet help lead her away if she did pass.
00:29:25
Cyn Shrader Hill
So I think there's a twofold there. Because she could have she could have passed on at any second with that.
00:29:33
Lee Hatfield
yeah oh for sure for sure because it you know it can be also i nearly said it can be extremely fatal but i don't think there's any variations to the word fatal really it's either it's fatal or it's not it's not extremely fatal
00:29:39
Cyn Shrader Hill
Very. Very.
00:29:51
Cyn Shrader Hill
I almost said very deadly. So, I mean, we're on the same page.
00:29:56
Lee Hatfield
I have called someone very dead before. and So I'm like, yeah, are they dead? No, they're very dead.
00:30:03
Cyn Shrader Hill
Very...
00:30:03
Lee Hatfield
There's a difference. There is a difference between being dead and very dead. Okay. One that I'm going to mention now that is quite topical right now, and you may pick up on the topical reason when I mention it, the voodoo doll.

Spirit Warnings and Darker Practices

00:30:19
Cyn Shrader Hill
Yes. Now that's Mark's story. Mark is the one that does the illustrations and my covers. He's incredible, incredible human, psychic. He does plenty of remotes for us and he's just an incredible person.
00:30:41
Cyn Shrader Hill
He's just an incredible, incredible person. He got a spirit warning through a dream and It was twofold. The dream was about him walking in
00:30:55
Lee Hatfield
I spent working the industrial industry living in a very small town or in my town.
00:30:59
Cyn Shrader Hill
his, that it was the person that he was caring for at the time, this older lady.
00:31:00
Lee Hatfield
So to have my family and friends and tell me how to go to my home, I think it was really, really shocking.
00:31:06
Cyn Shrader Hill
And ah she wasn't in perfect health. But she wasn't about to die either. it was, you know, she she was okay. She was older, a little frail, but not terribly sick.
00:31:24
Cyn Shrader Hill
So he had this dream. He walked in and he saw a very nice looking man lying in state in his casket.
00:31:32
Lee Hatfield
Wow.
00:31:36
Cyn Shrader Hill
Then the casket shut and shook and a life-size voodoo doll walked out, grabbed Judith, the person that he was sitting for, and starts taking her back to the casket.
00:31:51
Cyn Shrader Hill
In his dream, Mark knew if she got inside the casket, she was dead.
00:31:57
Lee Hatfield
wow
00:31:58
Cyn Shrader Hill
And so he went and pulled her away from the voodoo doll. It shut. The casket shut again. And he woke up.
00:32:08
Cyn Shrader Hill
So that was one part. He was saving his friend he was sitting for. But he knew to reach out to a voodoo person about this.
00:32:23
Cyn Shrader Hill
And immediately they said, oh I know exactly what that is.
00:32:30
Cyn Shrader Hill
he They both knew. a group of people that were involved in darker things, voodoo, and they were calling down loas.
00:32:44
Lee Hatfield
Oh, finally, I'm bringing you a recent by switching to Virgin Plus, but it's a horrible phone class, and the elder family, this house, a concert, food, and family.
00:32:48
Cyn Shrader Hill
And a loa
00:32:50
Cyn Shrader Hill
is a voodoo demon, for lack of a better word, that they would put into a person.
00:33:03
Lee Hatfield
Oh, shit. But I'm not.
00:33:05
Cyn Shrader Hill
The person would become possessed with that Loa and without knowing it, they were possessed of course, but they were having parties and inviting people to be a part of a sweat circle, which is more Native American, you know, than anything.
00:33:06
Lee Hatfield
So this is a paper cut, ha, ha, ha, ha
00:33:14
Lee Hatfield
Okay.
00:33:29
Cyn Shrader Hill
So this man went with his wife. She was in on it. And they called down the Loa into this man.
00:33:40
Cyn Shrader Hill
And once he was possessed, he was walking around jerky, li jerkily, ah jerkily, ah just they were laughing at him.
00:33:51
Lee Hatfield
We make sure you're busy.
00:33:53
Cyn Shrader Hill
They thought it was fun to see somebody possessed. So when he woke up, He didn't remember any of that.
00:34:02
Cyn Shrader Hill
When he went home later, it possessed him again. And some bad things happened at that point.
00:34:14
Cyn Shrader Hill
It's just, why
00:34:16
Lee Hatfield
yeah
00:34:18
Cyn Shrader Hill
would you mess with something like that?
00:34:21
Lee Hatfield
yeah
00:34:21
Cyn Shrader Hill
Why and why are you
00:34:25
Cyn Shrader Hill
terrorizing a a person for fun. Why? Why? For laughs is basically what they were doing.
00:34:38
Lee Hatfield
Some people do things that they shouldn't for not the right reasons.
00:34:45
Cyn Shrader Hill
Yeah. Unfortunately.
00:34:47
Lee Hatfield
i yeah they Yeah, they think it's fun, but at the end of the day, it's not.
00:34:54
Cyn Shrader Hill
Yeah.
00:34:56
Lee Hatfield
Okay. I would like to move to specifically page 179. What?
00:35:04
Cyn Shrader Hill
179.
00:35:05
Cyn Shrader Hill
I bet I know what that is.
00:35:06
Lee Hatfield
yeah hu balls You seriously haven't got that the book open at that page?
00:35:13
Cyn Shrader Hill
To 179.
00:35:15
Lee Hatfield
Yes, and I'd like you to read that.
00:35:16
Cyn Shrader Hill
Oh, now, well, now, wait a minute. So the book and the Kindle are different. So I don't know what page 179 Kindle is.
00:35:29
Lee Hatfield
I'm telling you what it is. It's in front of me.
00:35:34
Lee Hatfield
So I had the pleasure of submitting two stories to you. And in your words, and I think you must have been drunk while you were writing this, because the first sentence, I met this charming English gentleman.
00:35:50
Lee Hatfield
And I had to look in the mirror to make sure that it was me you were talking about. But, yeah, i had to actually submitted, and I'm so grateful that you were submitted both these stories because in the paramedic world, in the in the medical world, you do come across a lot of different
00:36:18
Lee Hatfield
stories, some good, some bad. And the two stories that, if you allow me to to speak, because I know it's about you, but there's stories in your books.
00:36:23
Cyn Shrader Hill
Absolutely. Absolutely.
00:36:28
Lee Hatfield
So the first one is I actually got called to a ah ah minor injury unit where a guy had reportedly had an epileptic seizure.
00:36:43
Lee Hatfield
yeah As a paramedic, you get called to multiple calls of that similar nature. When we arrived, he was basically starting to recover, which is called the postictal stage.
00:36:56
Lee Hatfield
So he's slowly coming around out of his seizure that he'd had. And the medical staff were saying, yep, he's had an epi epileptic seizure. But when he was able to talk, and I'm questioning him on the way to the hospital in my hometown of Boston in England, I asked him about this seizure, and he went, it was not an epileptic seizure.
00:37:20
Lee Hatfield
And said, well, yeah according to the medical staff, you said that it was an epileptic seizure. And he went, it wasn't. Well, how can you be so sure?
00:37:31
Lee Hatfield
And he went, because I did not see. Top hat and tails.
00:37:34
Cyn Shrader Hill
Thank you.
00:37:36
Lee Hatfield
And it's like, ah ah i'm I'm sorry, you you you you saw who? And you went, I have a spirit guide. And I've had a spirit guide ever since I was a child when I was diagnosed with epilepsy.
00:37:50
Lee Hatfield
And once I see this spirit guide, Top Hat and Tails, I know I'm about to have a seizure. So I get myself comfortable in a place where I'm not going to hurt myself.
00:38:03
Lee Hatfield
And then the seizure occurs and then I recover. He went, I did not see. Top hat and tails. So, yeah, my sister was actually the nurse that i handed over to at the hospital and again.
00:38:20
Lee Hatfield
She goes, what have you got? And I well, somebody has had a seizure, but I don't know if it's an epileptic seizure. So I explained her the story, and she's like, a jaw drops open, and she's like, what? what are you What are you talking about?
00:38:34
Lee Hatfield
And the guy went, yeah, yeah. I didn't see Top Hat and Tails. and it's And I mentioned it to you at the time and when I wrote you the email with the two stories. It's amazing how...
00:38:47
Lee Hatfield
We can't say for definite if it was a spirit guide or what it is, but if it's within his brain, it's amazing how the brain works for this apparition, spirit, guide, fit angel, fairy, whatever you want to call it, appears in front of him to tell him to prepare for a seizure.
00:38:56
Cyn Shrader Hill
Yes.
00:39:15
Lee Hatfield
And I don't think there's anybody in the medical field that could explain what he's going through every time he has an epileptic seizure and he sees this vision.
00:39:26
Cyn Shrader Hill
Right. Right.
00:39:28
Lee Hatfield
So, yeah, it's great that you could include that story yeah in your book because I always tell people about Top Hat and Tails because it, yeah, yeah.
00:39:40
Cyn Shrader Hill
I love that story.
00:39:41
Lee Hatfield
And it's great, the fact that there's something... with whatever it is that is protecting this individual every time he has a seizure.
00:39:50
Cyn Shrader Hill
Yes.
00:39:52
Cyn Shrader Hill
Yes. And, and, you know,
00:39:54
Lee Hatfield
And it's like.
00:39:56
Cyn Shrader Hill
f Epilepsy, they supposedly get this aura. They they have something, they might smell a certain smell or see something, or and he happens to see Top Hat and Tails.
00:40:12
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:40:13
Cyn Shrader Hill
Every time.
00:40:16
Lee Hatfield
And it's it's absolutely weird that, like I just said, that he sees this person. And this person warns him he's going to have an epileptic seizure. yeah So we never did did find out what caused his seizure, but he was absolutely adamant that it was not due to his epilepsy, which is, yeah that's that's going down, a that's opening up a whole new can of worms.
00:40:36
Cyn Shrader Hill
that you saying
00:40:40
Cyn Shrader Hill
right
00:40:41
Lee Hatfield
but But that, yeah, but like say, yeah.
00:40:42
Cyn Shrader Hill
It's an amazing story.
00:40:45
Lee Hatfield
And like i should I should let you tell the next story, even though it's one of mine. Just see how many details you get, right?
00:40:51
Cyn Shrader Hill
I love this one. I love because
00:40:53
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:40:54
Cyn Shrader Hill
You know, it's like,
00:40:58
Cyn Shrader Hill
yeah like the title says it, you just know when your time is up.
00:41:02
Lee Hatfield
Yeah.
00:41:04
Cyn Shrader Hill
And some people, like he was just kind of patting you.
00:41:07
Lee Hatfield
you
00:41:09
Cyn Shrader Hill
and you know, you were were working and, know, trying to do everything.
00:41:09
Lee Hatfield
Yeah. and
00:41:14
Cyn Shrader Hill
And he was going, don't worry yourself.
00:41:16
Lee Hatfield
Yeah. So let's go into a little bit more

Reflections on Mortality and Humanity

00:41:20
Lee Hatfield
detail. I was working out of a small ambulance station, and i was with a girl called Julie.
00:41:21
Cyn Shrader Hill
Yeah.
00:41:28
Lee Hatfield
And 6.30, 7 o'clock in the morning, we get a call to a fall.
00:41:32
Cyn Shrader Hill
Thank you.
00:41:34
Lee Hatfield
Falls are not high category calls. So we pulled out the station and dispatch stood us down. So we did a yeah U-turn, go back to the station. As we get onto the forecourt of the ambulance station, the shift had changed over.
00:41:50
Lee Hatfield
So a different dispatcher had said, oh, you've got a call to a fall. So back around again. And we get stood down again. The third time they called us, we go, we don't think this person's breathing. So it's like, how can you go from a fall to, yeah, anyway.
00:42:07
Lee Hatfield
So we arrived on scene and there was a mother and a daughter and the father was collapsed on the floor and he was literally breathing six breaths a minute. Normal is between 16 and 20.
00:42:21
Lee Hatfield
we start doing some interventions, breathing for him, helping him to breathe. And he was still unconscious. Obviously, mother and daughter are extremely distressed.
00:42:32
Lee Hatfield
The father's collapsed in front of them, not knowing what to do. So we quickly decided that we weren't going to hang around. So we got him into the back of the ambulance. aye Just as we were about to shut the door, I said to the daughter, what's his date of birth?
00:42:52
Lee Hatfield
And literally the guy sat up off the gurney and recited his date of birth word for word and then laid back down in the gurney again. And we're looking kind of like, did that just happen?
00:43:05
Lee Hatfield
And then he was unconscious again. And it was like, it happened. And he's like, did that really happen? And yeah, it did. And he sat up, said his date of birth and then passed out again.
00:43:19
Lee Hatfield
So lights and sirens all the way to the hospital. I'd pretty much done all I could. it was I'd got a breathing mask on him and I'd i'd already cannulated him with a needle in case we had to give any ah ah any drugs or anything.
00:43:34
Lee Hatfield
He was breathing on his own a lot better than what he was. And as we pulled into the driveway of the hospital, like i'd been holding his hands for about the like last five, ten minutes, just reassuring him.
00:43:46
Lee Hatfield
And yeah I could feel him holding my hand and but and holding it tight. And then as we pulled into the into the the yeah entrance to the emergency, I said to him, it's okay, we're at the hospital now.
00:44:02
Lee Hatfield
Hopefully everything's going to be okay. He turned to me with his eyes closed. He got his other hand, put it on mine, tapped it in like a there, there motion, and then went back to his position.
00:44:16
Lee Hatfield
And as soon as we got him into the hospital, he arrested. They managed to get him back. until such time, well, not until such time, but his family were very close behind.
00:44:27
Lee Hatfield
So they they knew what was going on. It was not sustainable with life. And as soon as the family turned up, he passed away. But it's absolutely yeah it's not very often that you get, I wouldn't say the word shock, but stunned by something like that that happens, where first off he sits up and answers a question and then kind of passes out again.
00:44:50
Lee Hatfield
And then he acknowledged the fact that was at hospital and it felt like he was reassuring me about, yeah, that I tried to save him.
00:44:56
Cyn Shrader Hill
Yes.
00:44:59
Cyn Shrader Hill
you You've done all you could. You've done all you could.
00:45:02
Lee Hatfield
Exactly, exactly, yeah.
00:45:03
Cyn Shrader Hill
You've done a wonderful job. Thank you. i appreciate you.
00:45:07
Lee Hatfield
Yeah. Yeah. And it really did like pull on the heartstrings.
00:45:11
Cyn Shrader Hill
Yeah.
00:45:12
Lee Hatfield
white yeah And Julie's going, OK. And I explained to what happened. And it was a really like emotionally charged like situation.
00:45:24
Lee Hatfield
But yeah. Did he actually know that his time was up?
00:45:31
Lee Hatfield
Or was he such a caring person that he had enough compass mentors, so to speak, to actually say, OK, you've done your part. Thank you.
00:45:41
Lee Hatfield
for And that was his way of saying thank you. But it's one thing that I would never, ever forget because it was such a strange sensation or experience for it to happen.
00:45:46
Cyn Shrader Hill
Yeah.
00:45:52
Cyn Shrader Hill
I can't imagine him actually sitting up and reciting his birthday to you.
00:46:00
Lee Hatfield
Yeah, yeah, and it was weird.
00:46:01
Cyn Shrader Hill
That is just bizarre.
00:46:01
Lee Hatfield
and it was yeah if If you didn't know but any better, you would say that he'd got electric shock the way he just sat up and went 30th of the 5th, 1942 or whatever, and then back down again.
00:46:12
Cyn Shrader Hill
Right back down.
00:46:12
Lee Hatfield
It's sort like, yeah.
00:46:14
Cyn Shrader Hill
What just happened? Yeah.
00:46:16
Lee Hatfield
Yeah, and it's like, yeah, okay, yeah.
00:46:17
Cyn Shrader Hill
what how did Right.
00:46:19
Lee Hatfield
Sadly, yeah, the gentleman passed, but he passed in such a relaxed environment yeah okay it's in the hospital and people are running around but it kind of it seemed like he waited until his family was there his wife and his daughter and then just drifted away
00:46:40
Cyn Shrader Hill
Right. It's just so, so odd even.
00:46:41
Lee Hatfield
so yeah it is and it's like it's like yeah again thank you for including both of my stories
00:46:51
Cyn Shrader Hill
Yes, absolutely.
00:46:53
Lee Hatfield
Yeah, because, you know, and as soon as a person comes up and offers me my first autograph, I'm going to thank you for it.
00:46:54
Cyn Shrader Hill
i love them. I love them.
00:47:02
Cyn Shrader Hill
That's wonderful.
00:47:05
Lee Hatfield
So, Sin, I'm not going to give any more stories away because if people want to read them, they can buy the book. And if you don't buy the book, I will hunt you down.

Availability and Formats of 'Death's Doorstep'

00:47:17
Lee Hatfield
each Each and every one of you. I'm not going to know that you haven't bought them, but you can just tell me you have and everything's good. So is it in hardback as well as electronic?
00:47:27
Cyn Shrader Hill
It is. it is in hardback, paperback, Kindle, and Audible. So if you don't want to read it yourself, you can have it read to you.
00:47:38
Lee Hatfield
is it Is it in your voice? Yes.
00:47:41
Cyn Shrader Hill
Now, I didn't have time to do it myself. So
00:47:46
Lee Hatfield
Well, you've got a free year. Mark said you have.
00:47:49
Cyn Shrader Hill
and not really, because I'm working on books.
00:47:50
Lee Hatfield
so
00:47:54
Lee Hatfield
okay So like said, yeah Kindle, e-books, hard copies. Is that hard copy just local to Tennessee, or is it bigger?
00:48:03
Cyn Shrader Hill
No, it is it is all over anywhere that there is an Amazon. You can get these books. So UK, Canada, it's it's all over Amazon.
00:48:12
Lee Hatfield
but
00:48:17
Cyn Shrader Hill
Just look up Sin Schrader Hill and you'll find them.
00:48:22
Lee Hatfield
and that's you you are you are the author of that book
00:48:24
Cyn Shrader Hill
That's me. That is me.
00:48:28
Cyn Shrader Hill
am. That is six books, about to be seven books. And they're all in paperback, Kindle, and Audible versions. There's a couple only in hardback right now.
00:48:43
Cyn Shrader Hill
So there is that.
00:48:46
Lee Hatfield
so this was number six you said number seven is going to be out in a few weeks
00:48:52
Cyn Shrader Hill
Yes.
00:48:52
Lee Hatfield
What about eight, nine, and 10? What have you got planned for those?
00:48:56
Cyn Shrader Hill
There is a spooky story book coming out. I've already got, I guess, half of that one, stories for that one.
00:49:09
Cyn Shrader Hill
I'm also going to do a book on the old hospital here. And if anybody ever watches Ghost Adventures, they came to the old hospital and actually did a fairly decent investigation after we told them they didn't need a script.
00:49:30
Cyn Shrader Hill
So they showed up with a script and actually threw it out and went in and did what you're supposed to do and investigate. So you can look that up on their episodes.
00:49:45
Lee Hatfield
I was going to say, I want to interrupt you because it's like, was I seeing things then or did I just see a cat's head?
00:49:52
Cyn Shrader Hill
Yeah. She, she, this is like, this is like the fourth time, I guess she's jumped up, but she's, She is Queen Bee of the castle.
00:50:02
Lee Hatfield
see
00:50:03
Cyn Shrader Hill
This is Bella and she has to be involved.
00:50:09
Cyn Shrader Hill
She is.
00:50:09
Lee Hatfield
It's like, when you going to write a book about me, Mum?
00:50:13
Cyn Shrader Hill
She actually has been in She was written about in the first book because I had a ghost cat here. And yeah, it was before I actually moved her into my husband's bachelor pad.
00:50:22
Lee Hatfield
Oh, wow.
00:50:27
Cyn Shrader Hill
we We got married. I'm his second wife. And so as I was moving things in, Bella was the last thing i was going to move in because, you know, cats are kind of funny about new places and a lot of commotion going on. So I wanted everything unpacked and fixed so she could just come in really easy.
00:50:50
Cyn Shrader Hill
But before she got here, we were married. And ah And ah one night my husband had fallen asleep before me. He is an early bird. i am not.
00:51:02
Cyn Shrader Hill
And i was just lying there fighting for sleep and trying to go to sleep. And the cat jumped up on the bed. and i was almost asleep. And I thought, oh, Bella's going to lie at my feet tonight.
00:51:17
Cyn Shrader Hill
And then i completely woke up to, wait a minute, Bella's not here yet. And so within the next, I don't know, few days, it happened again.
00:51:24
Lee Hatfield
wow
00:51:29
Cyn Shrader Hill
and he had not fallen asleep yet. And I said, did you feel that? And he said, yep. And I said, what was it? Don't know. I said, has it happened before?
00:51:43
Cyn Shrader Hill
Yes. And I said, were you going to tell me about it? Nope. And I said, what?
00:51:50
Lee Hatfield
Talked of your husband today.
00:51:52
Cyn Shrader Hill
Yeah. I said, why not? Why weren't you going to tell me about it? He said, I was waiting for you to tell me what it was.
00:51:59
Lee Hatfield
Wow, that's cool.
00:51:59
Cyn Shrader Hill
And I said, it's it's a ghost cat. We have a ghost cat. So yeah, we had a ghost cat for a while.
00:52:04
Lee Hatfield
Oh man, I love that.
00:52:07
Cyn Shrader Hill
And when I brought Bella in, it didn't, it didn't, she wasn't worried. The ghost cat wasn't worried. Everybody got along. So there's that
00:52:18
Lee Hatfield
Perfect. That's perfect end. So what's next for Sin Trader Hill apart from the the next couple of books that we've already mentioned.

Upcoming Engagements and Discussions on Spiritual Signs

00:52:31
Cyn Shrader Hill
Yeah, I've got ah couple of speaking engagements coming up. One is, and of course, Bella just laid down on my notes, that September 20th, I'll be in greenwood at Greenwood Happy Haunts in Indiana with the middle-aged and creeped out podcast crew.
00:52:52
Cyn Shrader Hill
for Creepshow 2025. And I'll be talking about signs from our loved ones. Austin Lawrence will be there talking about the Dead Chronicles.
00:53:00
Lee Hatfield
All of us.
00:53:01
Cyn Shrader Hill
Yep. So that's going to be fun. And then in October, I'll be at Goblin Con in Hopkinsville, Kentucky. They are, that is going to be October 17th and 18th.
00:53:16
Cyn Shrader Hill
And I'll be speaking again about signs from our loved ones. So that's going to be fun. This month, I guess it's in a couple of weeks. It is the 70th anniversary of the goblin incident in Hopkinsville, Kentucky.
00:53:35
Cyn Shrader Hill
70th anniversary of when this family got terrorized by these little goblins, alien-like things. So they're actually having a 70th anniversary this month for them.
00:53:51
Lee Hatfield
Goblin convention.
00:53:52
Cyn Shrader Hill
yeah
00:53:54
Lee Hatfield
Well, I would love to come to the one in September, but I'm in Fiji, so I'm not going to come.
00:54:02
Cyn Shrader Hill
Do you know what? Have a drink for me in Fiji.
00:54:08
Lee Hatfield
Just the one.
00:54:09
Cyn Shrader Hill
Just, yeah, just one. I don't drink much. i get I get too giggly.
00:54:12
Lee Hatfield
ah but one
00:54:14
Cyn Shrader Hill
Yeah.
00:54:14
Lee Hatfield
Oh, perfect. I'll buy you a drink next time I willll see you. Sin, it's been a pleasure like it was last time. i i absolutely love talking to you. You've got so many stories. And next time, please don't finish on a goblin story because I think I want to learn more.
00:54:31
Lee Hatfield
But don't say another word.
00:54:33
Cyn Shrader Hill
a yep Thank you
00:54:34
Lee Hatfield
Don't say another word. Next time, episode three. But like say, it's been an absolute pleasure as always. I love you to bits. I love talking to you.
00:54:45
Lee Hatfield
And we will be talking again very soon. Thanks very much. Take care.

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