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The Raid (2011)
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This week on the Everything Actioncast, Zach and Chris stack up for The Raid, aka The Raid: Redemption, as a new Gareth Evans movie, Havoc, arrives on Netflix.
The breakout for Evans and star Iko Uwais, Uwais stars in The Raid as Rama, a rookie cop in the Mobile Brigade Corps. His unit assaults the apartment block belonging to ruthless crime lord Tama (Ray Sahetapy), but it becomes a fight for survival when Tama mobilizes all the criminal residents in the building to attack the squad. Zach and Chris talk about the brutal fights and kills, how this and John Wick shifted us away from the Bourne era of blockbuster action, why one normal couple is living in this criminal operation, everyone being a secret martial arts expert, and more.
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Introduction and Hosts
00:00:03
Speaker
Welcome to the Everything Action Cast, the official podcast of Hello and welcome to the Everything Action Cast podcast week of April 21st, 2025. I'm your host, Zach.
00:00:25
Speaker
I'm your co-host, Chris. And this week we are
Gareth Evans and 'Havoc' Discussion
00:00:28
Speaker
stacking up and going on The Raid. Because we have a new Gareth Evans movie on Netflix. I think if you're hearing this, Havoc, starring Tom Hardy.
00:00:38
Speaker
um But we're going back to Gareth Evans, his first big movie.
Action Movie Evolution: 'The Raid' and 'John Wick'
00:00:42
Speaker
wasn't his first movie, but his first, like, the one that kind of put him on the map, definitely.
00:00:47
Speaker
And I think, I don't know if you agree with Let me know if agree with this. Like, the Raid and John Wick, they kind of, I think, kind of around the same time, but they kind like, changed the way like action movies were, and I put us in this current era we're in
00:01:05
Speaker
Yeah, they redefine the more fast-paced, fluid action sequence, but that that's not like the first time it's done it.
Challenges of Bourne-Style Action
00:01:16
Speaker
I kind of remember Hong Kong action movies like this. This is definitely like the more... the the newer take on it but this is like some of the action stuff i grew up with as a kid watching like cantonese action movies this is like very close to what it was well i'm just thinking we are firmly in the kind of like born era before this oh you mean like phases the new like like yeah this like we this helps get into a new phase like or or or trend yeah because we were it was we were definitely before this john wick um
00:01:50
Speaker
um we we're firmly in the like born like shaky cam, super close up kind of grittier style of action where, which thank God that's over with.
00:02:01
Speaker
yeah i mean it was cool to to begin with but then whenever we started doing it i was just like oh god i can't tell what's happening i like i'm i'm in someone's armpit like i don't know what's going what what am i looking at yeah it time and place and tone are very important in in those action movies uh when you do a stylish action that is big concept and a continuous like beat this is one of the best like in intensity and then just like a symphony of action. You want like this this kind of cut, this kind of like presentation.
00:02:36
Speaker
Where I think like in America at this time, if you saw saw anything remotely close to this, it wouldn't be a theoretical movie. would be like almost like an accident that would be in an indie movie or something. Some creative camera work and just sort of like the choreography that goes beyond like fighting a guy in a small box.
00:03:01
Speaker
Like, you know, like the rate is crazy because it's all fighting in rooms in a bigger building. Not the most original concept, but in terms of effective, right?
Creative Choreography in 'The Raid'
00:03:13
Speaker
But in terms of like Bourne movies or even movies by the time, like the Bourne action was dying down. It went from fighting a guy, very brutal, and what almost looks like you're like filming behind the shoulder of the protagonist or whoever, like you're just filming different perspectives from that over-the-shoulder view.
00:03:33
Speaker
It doesn't represent like the depth of the room. A lot of the times, like even if it's like a big room when they fight, the cameras are so goddamn zoomed in that you think, oh god, like everyone's fighting in a closet.
00:03:46
Speaker
Mm-hmm. But the raid, even though it's like, these aren't huge rooms, they definitely feel more spaced out. And then there's like, almost like, a nice rhythm to like, how they use the space. Because like...
00:04:01
Speaker
like They change in scale. like Now every fight is in ah it's in a hallway, it's in a room, it's in ah it's at a drug lab, it's in a like a box. like It's very... like yeah yeah The camera is very like all over the place, and it takes time to like zoom out. and then zoom you know Very creative.
00:04:19
Speaker
But now that I'm thinking about it, this probably this is one of the few movies in the post... like um Max Payne, Bullet Time, Matrix things that uses slow-mo like efficiently.
00:04:35
Speaker
Yeah. mean it It doesn't overdo it, and it's just like just enough to be actually um very impactful of what's going on.
00:04:46
Speaker
Not so much the ah like, hey, this is very cool and stylish, and that the guy all all a guy did was like flip over chair. you know this is You know, but it was very tastefully done. Because I think there's only like three slow-mo points.
Gareth Evans' Indonesian Influence
00:05:03
Speaker
Yeah, I forgot there was... I forgot how, like, there was slow-mo and kind of what the slow-mo was in this movie. Yeah. So, like I said, it honors, like, things in the past. And it does a few, like, twists on it, which is nice. Because I feel like if they did the raid through, like, a first-person view, it could work.
00:05:20
Speaker
But I think it it does it better when it knows, hey, check out these sick-ass moves from... um from this up-and-coming stunt team. Because there's this movie's like... I forgot that Iko Ue, this is like, what, his second movie?
00:05:35
Speaker
Yes. So, and it's... So, Gareth Evans directed a movie before this called Marantau, which... I feel like I need to watch that now, because I've never seen that. Have you seen that, Chris?
00:05:46
Speaker
No. that was So, that was yeah, that was that was his first movie. um Iko Ue was in it. Yayaan Rui Han, Mad Dog, was in it. um Dani Alamsaya, Andy was in it. So they were all three of those guys were in Maranto.
00:06:01
Speaker
um and and but that was ah And it was also like you know martial arts, like same same martial arts style. But so I was reading, it's crazy. Garrett Evans was in Indonesia like doing a documentary about like martial arts, like Penn Sac slot.
00:06:16
Speaker
And then he met Iku Uwe, and he's just like, oh, I like i should make an action movie with this guy. And like, Ikuo was like delivering like phone books or something. That was like his job before he became an actor.
00:06:31
Speaker
but then he but that he else But then he just turned out to be like this like insane martial artist. I think he was like he was like involved with that documentary and then Garthamut was like, oh man, I should like make action movies.
00:06:45
Speaker
It's interesting that Gareth Edwards, like... Evans. Everyone makes the mistake. It's like, they they both came out. i think I think they both were, like, hitting it, because, like, I'm trying to remember when, like, Monsters came out, like, for, like, Gareth edward Edwards, but, like, that was, like, i think it was around the same time, and then people were just like, which which which guy directed the raid? Was it Edwards or Evans? Or who directed Rogue One?
00:07:10
Speaker
it's He just, like, lived in Jakarta. you know It's something where um I guess he just found him his... He's some guy from Wales.
00:07:24
Speaker
Yep. And he somehow ended up in Jakarta, which to an American like us, that's so... like what Why? why but What brings you there? like Did you go there for the internet?
00:07:37
Speaker
but get down for His wife is Indonesian-Japanese.
00:07:42
Speaker
Right, but imagine, did he meet his wife in Indonesia, or did he go there and then just meet his wife? You know, like... I think i think i think his wife, that he met his wife, and then she's just like, hey, they're like back in Indonesia, there's this is cool martial arts style called Saks a Lot, you should maybe we can document her about it, and he's like, oh yeah, that sounds a good idea. Wow.
00:08:07
Speaker
I'm just thinking, like, what it in the happenstance, it all came together, but in in when you just have... Like, imagine you just met someone like who just, hey, like you want to make a movie about Savat?
00:08:18
Speaker
Like, okay. And then you just go to Paris and you're just, like, making the raid, but it's like a a s Savat version of it. Everyone's fighting with canes and stuff.
00:08:33
Speaker
Yeah, so look yeah luckily i mean luckily all these guys came together and then you know they made Muranto and then they made The Raid, which is like... Muranto got... It looked like it got like really good reviews as well, but The Raid is the one that blew up and made everyone... You know, Iko Wiz is like a martial arts superstar. Kareth Evans is like one of the best action directors of the decade.
00:08:54
Speaker
I also think that Muranto is a more... um morantau is a more like regional movie, because even the name and everything about that movie is something that's like but like, you know, people from Jakarta or Jakartans.
00:09:11
Speaker
Indonesians? ah It's their culture and tradition, so it's like harder to translate. um But the raid is like, everyone can kind of understand that.
Universal Appeal of 'The Raid'
00:09:23
Speaker
And at least there's like universal things that breaks the language barrier. Like when you have like a SWAT team or an assault team pull up to some building. Yeah, very, very simple idea to understand. The SWAT team is going to take down and this crime drug lord king yeah and they fight their way up the up the top of the building.
00:09:43
Speaker
I bet you there are a few people who didn't know, like, if you point to a map and ask them where Indonesia is, like, where that is, right? But they look at this movie and they're just like, that that can't be real. They don't live like that. There's no, like, slum that bad.
00:09:56
Speaker
then they look up, like, Jakarta and they're just like, oh
00:10:02
Speaker
Well, the funny thing about like this building in the raid is that it it yeah does seem like it's like all just like criminals, but then there's like the one couple that just is trying to live there in like a normal life.
00:10:14
Speaker
How bad is the rent in that area where that's the only affordable? That's what I'm wondering, yeah. It's any kind of slum that is almost like... This movie could be in Brazil.
00:10:25
Speaker
and Actually, I think there's um a Brazilian movie that's very close to this. that The guy who did the Robocop remake. He did like a raid-like movie. Yeah. I'm trying to remember the name of that movie. Okay, but...
00:10:37
Speaker
but yeah okay but It's also like, I feel like it's our duty to watch that movie too. Because it's one of those like, oh, that you don't need to know the language or the culture, but like, you don't need to understand it, but just like, appreciate the action, appreciate the intensity of like, cool ass things happening.
00:10:54
Speaker
It's it's yeah Elite Squad, by the way, is the name of that. That's it. There's two of them, I guess. There's Elite Squad and Elite Squad the Enemy Within.
00:11:03
Speaker
i get those words. So things like that, like, I feel like ah that's another, like, people that get recognized for their action really know how to tell story, and it's, like, very universal.
00:11:18
Speaker
Like, when they can, a good director doesn't need to pretty much explain the culture in the movie. It's just sort of like, this is, like, your main antagonist, this is your protagonist, and here's, like, a crazy setting for everything to kind of unfold.
00:11:33
Speaker
And The Raid is like a sandbox movie like that, where it's just how many crazy stunts can we cram in this one movie?
00:11:43
Speaker
And once it starts, it just, it never stops. Got it. Yeah, man. Talk about like a movie that like accelerates the gas on pacing and tone and just sort of like um characters that you didn't think would have like their moment has like have their like crazy. Okay. Now they're an action star moment.
00:12:05
Speaker
So it's um a wild ride of like how many of that team that Ikowui joins that gets dwindled down. Oh my, yeah, like, all all of them except, like, what, five or six get like wiped out when like the cry like that the and the the whole building is like aware of the building and the alarm goes off?
00:12:28
Speaker
Uh... Like, yeah, five people initially. Then it's, like, every other scene, it's, like, one or two guys being picked off. No, I think it's more than five. think it's, like, ten in that, like, initial... I mean, taught yeah, I'm just saying, like, the it gets down to, like like, it's a whole, like, it's a dozen or so guys, and then it gets down to, like, five within, like, a couple like with couple minutes. yeah Five or six. It's, like, joc it's like Sergeant Jaka, and then it's it's Rama, and then it's the...
00:12:58
Speaker
lieutenant who's like like The who looks like he's going to go to a golf game. he's not tactical. We find out that he's like crooked and sets us all up for his own personal reasons.
00:13:12
Speaker
It's funny because he reminds me of like a guy that like got off vacation and just joined like a drug raid. He doesn't look tactical. looks...
00:13:23
Speaker
it looks Like, I don't know if that's just like, again, is that just Indonesian culture? It's like, oh no, like, when you're high-ranking, every day is casual Friday. Yeah, you just wear whatever you want to raid.
00:13:35
Speaker
You want to go to do a drug bust? Wear whatever.
00:13:44
Speaker
And, uh, it's also funny that Rama is like, he's the rookie, but he's, like, by like clearly the most like skilled person in the entire team.
00:13:56
Speaker
not Not just, like, fighting, too, but, like, tactical? Like, he's the one that's, like, coming up with all these, like, like solutions to how to get them out of, the building? No, not all of them. But i but most of them, yeah. Most of them, most of them. Like, by the time the... ah After the, like, break through the floor scene, that's where he starts taking over.
00:14:16
Speaker
Yeah. But up until that point, he's just following the lead. There are moments in this movie where I couldn't tell who was who yet because, like, they're wearing the same thing in the helmet.
00:14:26
Speaker
And then it just quick cuts at people's faces that I haven't seen this movie in, like, at least two, three years.
Subtitles vs. Dubbing
00:14:34
Speaker
So um the part where, like, there's a guy early um and in the, like, failed assault.
00:14:44
Speaker
There's a guy, like, charging down the hall. with the machete behind his back, there's a scene where a guy's just like, hey, stop, stop. And I was like, is that Iko Uwe? And then he gets shot. I was like, no, that's not Iko Uwe.
00:14:59
Speaker
but yeah, it's another thing. If you watch this movie with subtitles, I think like with original dubbing and then the subtitles, I think it's better because some of the dubbing is just weird.
00:15:12
Speaker
Oh, yeah, I definitely did not watch it with especially this recent, like the most like This current watch. I definitely watched it in the original with the subtitles on. Yeah. I watched it with the dubbing like recently.
00:15:25
Speaker
yeah I watched it with the subtitles first, and then this time ah just to save time and just could throw in the background. So when people were talking, I was like, who's... I had to look up. you know i like When I was like throwing it on, I was doing all things i was on my phone for a second. which Don't be on your phone during this movie. A lot goes on that you're missing. You have to rewind things.
00:15:43
Speaker
Yeah, I can take down like five guys in a time it takes you to like, look at your phone and look back up. Yeah, so thats so then when someone says dialogue, like, wait, who's talking? Damn it. um But, yeah, the... I think having it in Indonesian gives it a better authentic grit feel, people screaming, and then the way they're talking calmly, ah and then like, just from the actors who are like, out of breath.
00:16:11
Speaker
Mm-hmm. ah Some of the dubbing, I think it's like that last 2012 dubbing where anime dubbing just sort of got better, but they didn't figure out how to do that for international dubbing yet.
00:16:24
Speaker
Like for other things. Because anime dubbing in mid-2000s got better. It's not guaranteed, but like... Let me tell you, for someone who watched a lot of dubbed anime in like the 90s and early 2000s, it was rough.
00:16:39
Speaker
Um. So yeah, this is why I'm like, oh, dubbing matters. Like, having actors who really understand the part matters. um Also, just to... just to, like, have subtitles as a thing again.
00:16:54
Speaker
ah I don't speak Indonesian, so when people are saying names, I just, like, I don't know who they're talking to. Like, I don't know who's which character yet. Like, I forgot that this is the same Rama from The Raid 2, because there is a big difference in tone and how he's... Like, there's equal way that he's become a better actor, especially in, like, The Raid 2, where he's basically John Wick.
00:17:15
Speaker
Yeah.
Character Analysis: Rama's Independence
00:17:16
Speaker
And then in this one, he's more... um
00:17:22
Speaker
He's sort of like a McClane guy, because he he does break off from the pack like a lot, and he does his own like renegade mission during this thing.
00:17:32
Speaker
I'm trying to of another character that's like that, where it's like, oh, it's a team, and then it's like, well, I have a secret agenda.
00:17:40
Speaker
Yeah, which would you find out like extremely late in this movie. Yeah, I mean, there's the beginning where it's like, okay, hey, I'll bring him back, and like, okay. I don't know what any of this means.
00:17:53
Speaker
I know now in the rewatch, it's a good, like, oh, like how it connects, but first time watching it, it's very vague. Mm-hmm.
00:18:03
Speaker
Well, they drop a lot twists at the end of the movie of who actually who actually set this up, and who knows who knows what, and who's betraying who, and who's related to who.
00:18:17
Speaker
Well, okay, okay so...
00:18:20
Speaker
We don't even even know who set it up. Because they don't even know who set it up. Well, it was... So the lieutenant... Waiyu, like the golfing lieutenant, he got... Like, he's a corrupt cop.
00:18:34
Speaker
And then he has a boss above him, Reza, who but basically set up Waiyu to be like... Because they're... Like, i think... um ah Like, Tama... Crime Lord Tama's, like, paying off all the cops. Or, like, a bunch of the cops.
00:18:51
Speaker
And Reza's like one of the cops that like he's paying off and then but so then he's like basically so like I think the lieutenant was i've either getting too ambitious or he's like just like they might get rid of him for for whatever reason.
00:19:05
Speaker
So basically set him up to like lead this raid and then they're just expecting like him to get killed in the raid. i see. And if he didn't then they would just kill him. Like Tom was like ahll well those they'll kill you anyway. They're like like you think you're gonna be a hero if you could bring me like arrest me? like they're just gonna kill you.
00:19:21
Speaker
like You're already dead. See, that's why like the sequel is kind of important for the backstory. i think Do you even see Reza in the sequel? think you do.
00:19:33
Speaker
i mean I mean, Ramo takes down the entire organization. Part two is is basically taking down Reza and of that whole organization. don't think Reza was a cop. I think in that one he was just a businessman.
00:19:51
Speaker
That's why I'm trying to figure out, like, oh, yeah, that's right. Because you find that out, like, way late in the movie, like you mentioned. Like, all of those details. Which I'm fine with that. They were pretty much just, like, having, like, this world be what it was. And it's super, like, corrupt. And you can't trust anybody because, you know, it's a dangerous place in Metro City 1. Yeah.
00:20:18
Speaker
ah
00:20:21
Speaker
but You want to get the the like coincidence out of the way of like just these two movies that follow a very similar structure? Like Dread? Yep.
00:20:32
Speaker
I mean, Dread came out the year after, I don't know if they like saw the raid and were like, we need to like make our own version of this, or they were already making Dread, and it was but just had to be the same idea.
00:20:47
Speaker
because i mean it's i mean Because it's literally the same idea.
Plot Parallels: 'The Raid' and 'Dread'
00:20:50
Speaker
literally the same setup. Just with Judge Dredd instead of Iku Uwe. Yeah, it's like... I think like it was just at the time people were like, what's to this crazy idea? But I think... Is Dredd... That's based on a comic that Dredd did, I think.
00:21:13
Speaker
Maybe not to the extent of the movie, how it played out, but the idea of like raiding a building, and clearing floors, that sounds like a dread comic. i Yeah, i mean, you know there's block wars, there's always like something going on in the blocks that Joshua is going in and taking down.
00:21:30
Speaker
So that's why like, it's not far off. It's just unfortunate that this was back-to-back. The thing is, like at least it's like two different countries. It's not like... you know someone saw this five years later and they just converted it into a Dread movie.
00:21:50
Speaker
Yeah, i think i think it was I think it was just like like a weird coincidence that like that they just came out within like a year of each other and they both were basically the same plot.
00:22:00
Speaker
Yeah. Because I think I saw the raid. I definitely saw the raid first.
Casting in 'Mortal Kombat'
00:22:06
Speaker
And then when I saw Dread, I was like, this seems familiar. Except Dread's not throwing elbows and kicks.
00:22:13
Speaker
Yeah, less martial arts. Yeah, yeah, yeah way less. Imagine if Dread just suddenly became a martial artist. And then like um they were just like, we never heard of the raid. It's like, hey, we never mentioned that movie.
00:22:24
Speaker
And they're just like, um I have to go now.
00:22:28
Speaker
carl i mean i guess I guess we'll see Carl O'Reilly as Johnny Cage and like soon in Mortal Kombat, but yeah, he's not really like a martial arts guy. That's why find it funny that he's going to be in Mortal Kombat, but I also think it's more going be a joke where he's in it for like five minutes and then he gets his neck snapped. With Joe Taslim, who's Jaka in the raid.
00:22:52
Speaker
he's our He's our new Sub-Zero. I don't know how he's back. Is it like regular Sub-Zero? Or like Ghost Sub-Zero?
00:23:05
Speaker
Yeah, I don't Are they gonna do like the brother thing? Or like where there's a new Sub-Zero? No idea yet. So, yeah. This is also interesting of a movie because this movie introduced like new a new wave of martial artists that uh like or became more in demand.
00:23:28
Speaker
So, like you said, the guy who played Jaka, he went off and then, I think, what, like, right after this, they did, he did The Night Comes for Us.
00:23:40
Speaker
Night Comes for Us, and then after that, he did that TV show. Warrior? Yep. yeah He's good at Warrior.
00:23:49
Speaker
I think, Joe Teslin, he's a judo guy. Yeah, I think he was originally like an expert judo guy. And then they just said, okay, hey, let's incorporate him so we can do more like crazy like close hand stuff that you can tackle people on the ground.
00:24:07
Speaker
Yeah. because i which in the In the fight style, a lot of it is just like, how hard can you wail your limbs into someone? I think that's why they needed like some judo into it to do... like like more locks and flips that you normally don't do, I think, in that that Indonesian fight style.
00:24:26
Speaker
Yeah, you definitely you see that in like the Chaka versus Mad Dog fight.
00:24:33
Speaker
Which was a crazy fight. no No music. Just grunts and just sound effects. well um met Mad Dog is just a beast.
00:24:44
Speaker
like Yeah, like Yayan Ruhan is just like like insane in this movie. And I love his... like He's in like he's it for the love of the game where like yeah like he's got Jocka to something to gun and he's just like, alright, let's go in this room and we're gonna have a slugfest.
00:25:03
Speaker
I'm not gonna just kill you with a gun. Yeah. He loves the thrill of the kill. He enjoys... killing with his hands, which in this part of the city, everyone knows martial artists.
00:25:19
Speaker
Everyone's like a ah ah amateur, at least martial artist, which it makes sense that he's the best because it seems like every day, if you're not, I don't know, getting medicine for your significant other or having a kid, you are just or drug making or a police raid.
00:25:35
Speaker
You are practicing fights or fighting people in your building. Maybe. Because even the tenants in this, like, drug den, they're fighting each other.
00:25:46
Speaker
theyre They're, like, trying to kill each other, especially when there's a bounty and stuff, so I guess other groups are just teaming up to kill out all the other people to get more of a pay cut. Well, you mentioned that there's other gangs that have attacked, like, this building before, and then they all they also got, like, killed. Because, like, Thomas' building is, like, impenetrable fortress.
00:26:10
Speaker
But... Yeah, so everyone on that in that building is just like ready warriors, or some sort of henchmen, at least. Except for the one couple that just wants to live there. It's
Villains in 'The Raid'
00:26:24
Speaker
so weird. It's weird. If there was more you innocent people, it'd make more sense. because It'd be like, oh, i mean they're they're poor, they can't afford to live everywhere anywhere else, there're so but they're kind of like stuck here.
00:26:35
Speaker
But it's it's literally just it's one couple... and And everyone else is like a drug dealer or like a a drug maker or henchman or some sort criminal. There's no other normal people in this building.
00:26:48
Speaker
ah Yeah, right. Or they're druggies because when they do the raid, they're like popping into people's rooms and they're just people who I guess are on drug binges and aren't clean because they complain about the smell and it's like generally disgusting.
00:27:00
Speaker
Oh, God. That open... When there's kind of like... The Great Raid's going like pretty well and when they get like five floors up, but that one guy like shit his pants, they they they have to handcuff him.
00:27:12
Speaker
Oh, man. Where's that guy? Does that he come back in the movie? It turns out he's like a crazy martial artist. Yeah. just His art style is shooting his pants first, and that's how he gets ready.
00:27:25
Speaker
so It throws his opponents off, he's like, Oh, God, the smell. I can't find him. it's the hidden Jakartan art of shit fighting.
00:27:38
Speaker
Yeah, because the raid goes pretty smoothly for a little bit. they get They get five floors up with that and like take everyone on those floors down. and
00:27:48
Speaker
also feel like if we're going to raid the penthouse, wouldn't you just helicopter the top and then rappel down? i guess I guess because it was technically like like no one knew they were doing this because it was like this like illegal setup raid that they didn't have any any other support.
00:28:06
Speaker
Because let me tell you, tactically, this is terrible. Yes. They only had one van, no backup, right? The building is encased in its own front gate, which they had to just drive through.
00:28:20
Speaker
And then... There's no cover when they are assaulting the front. They have to run like across flat ground with no cover to get to like the front of the building. Open And they don't even have shields. Nope.
00:28:36
Speaker
Usually in a raid, there's someone with, like, a shield in the front, so that way, you know, it's a little bit of a protection. They don't have any don't have any, like, snipers, like, overwatch or anything. Like, the bad guys have snipers, but they don't, like, the SWAT team has no, kind of like, normally, i think I feel like normally you'd have, like, an overwatch, kind of like, on another building or something.
00:28:54
Speaker
yeah you would just say, hey, like, can we please a team across the building for support in case we need it? Because, you know, antics, but I get it.
00:29:06
Speaker
It's supposed to be, hey, we're doing this today. Go rush. Don't worry about everything else. i think it have been cool if they did plan that. And then the Kingpin was smart to plan like another team that would show up later to like take out that like sniping team.
00:29:23
Speaker
So that way it's like he was already like a backup plan for a backup plan. But the Kingpin in this is just kind of lucky for most of it. He's not really a good... like He's sinister because it's a good intro to his character where he eliminates people brutally while eating like his lunch.
00:29:42
Speaker
And then just like also like Mad Dog where it's like, oh, he's there to he's there just to terrify. It's not so much to ah inspire anyone or or or like send a message. It's just he likes to terrify people.
00:29:58
Speaker
until he basically comes across something he can't handle. But again, as a boss guy, it's not like he's a good fighter.
00:30:09
Speaker
It's not like secretly, you know, we talk about Kick-Ass where like the main villain was had a like a karate dojo in his house. This one, he was just like, oh, if you breach the walls, that's it Like when you get in his room, you could take him.
00:30:25
Speaker
he's Yeah, he's he's just totally relying on Mad Dog and Andy to like fight for him. He's not even decked out in like body armor or a He's wearing like a dirty like open open buttonup shirt and like a wife beatater's like yeah like robin
00:30:48
Speaker
And he's super paranoid, just like he has cameras everywhere. i get the cameras. That's smart. You keep watch, and especially in 2000s Indonesia, like you you didn't have reliable Wi-Fi.
00:31:01
Speaker
You just had to record all the screens. You had to sit there and watch it. you know they're there And he was like the guy in the chair. He was his own tech guy. I give him that. like He's a paranoid guy, which makes sense because it seems like his building gets raided once in a while.
00:31:19
Speaker
and He just needs to rely on his soldiers and his like druggies to protect him. But I'm surprised he doesn't have dogs. I don't know if that's like an Indonesian thing either where they just don't believe in dogs.
00:31:31
Speaker
I feel like they don't because that's a... Indonesia is kind of Muslim so they they don't like dogs.
00:31:43
Speaker
Have some sort of other other attack animal. Yeah, but then it's like it makes sense where like also you need to feed that and that like state it doesn't seem like they have food budget for dogs i don't
00:32:00
Speaker
know i feel like uh even in some other movies i've seen where like it's like a criminal lord he he always has like attack dogs or some sort of like ferocious beast he keeps somewhere as like a backup plan mm-hmm I thought maybe he would have a lion or something.
00:32:16
Speaker
Right? Doesn't this movie look like yeah a tiger would just be in his penthouse and it's like, okay, hey, you gotta pass my defenses, but how do you well do you do... How wows your like martial arts against my tiger?
00:32:27
Speaker
He somehow built like a tiger pit like in the building that people fall into. That'd be cool. That was like the intro. So instead of him shooting them, these like people, he just pushes them into a tiger pit.
00:32:40
Speaker
Yeah, it pulls a lever and like the floor drops out from under them. Granted, we're giving this building too much credit that there's gonna be a lever system. If anything, it's just like a gaping hole that they like punched into the ground.
00:32:53
Speaker
You know, this this building doesn't seem that advanced. No, it's fairly run down. Yeah. I'm surprised it even has like an intercom system, but it doesn't get used a lot.
00:33:05
Speaker
Yeah, I feel like Tomasho had been like kind of taunting him a little bit more. like He only he does his initial like taunt to like get right off all the guys say, hey, anyone anyone who kills a cop gets to live your rent free free for forever.
00:33:22
Speaker
If he clears out like the infestation. But then he never like goes on the like the PA and taunts them anymore after that. He's just like... They get the point. I don't to...
00:33:34
Speaker
but do a message anymore. No inspirational thing, no threats.
00:33:40
Speaker
Well, okay, like, to be fair, maybe that does drain the building's power.
00:33:47
Speaker
Like, you give a speech, or do you want your elevators to work? Yeah. Are they even elevators? I mean, everyone's using stairs, so... There's some elevators. There's elevators, I think, on the top floor. theyre Yeah, stairs, or they're just, like, jumping from, like, balcony up to, like, next balcony.
00:34:03
Speaker
Yeah, that bad that's like an OSHA violation where you can easily, like, climb to the next level with no, like, resistance. Because the building seems like it's, like, a big, like it's ah like, every floor is, like, a ring around the central, like, area, and there's, like, balconies all all the way around.
00:34:20
Speaker
But there's, yeah, there's no railings, and people are getting thrown off those balconies, like, and it's, like, they're falling all the way to the bottom of of the building, or, like, that one guy gets, like, and like basically breaks his back on the like the barrier, just, like, stays there. Yeah. yeah um It's crazy that if you're used to American like structures, you could see that like other countries did not care about that.
00:34:42
Speaker
I think in some places, it's like, oh, like maybe we'll put like a knee-high wall there so you don't trip over. But it's really up to you to not do that.
00:34:53
Speaker
They don't want to ruin the aesthetic of like a wide view. I went to ah Amsterdam and forgot what museum I was in. And like, the thing that separates, like, me from, like, toppling over down, like, three stories was, like, barely, like, a hand rest for, like, the wall that was basically up to my knee and then it had, like, maybe an extra foot of a railing and it was so thin that, like,
00:35:23
Speaker
If I wasn't looking, I could miss that railing and then just like, if I was trying to take a dumb photo or a selfie, that's... That would be me. And then here's the insane thing. They don't even need to put a sign that says, like, don't do that. They're just like, yeah, like... Watch out. like Yeah, just sort of like, hey, be aware. Because then it's like, do we need to tell people to be aware for that? It's like, these days?
00:35:44
Speaker
Pretty much. And I wasn't in some rinky-dink old museum. I think I was in the Van Gogh Museum. Like, a known museum. Mm-hmm.
00:35:53
Speaker
So, yeah, standards are different. And then some people are just like, it's why bother to upgrade this if, like, you know, one, like, I don't see a city inspector going to that apartment building.
00:36:09
Speaker
No. Just like, hey, listen, I know you're a drug den here, but we need some safety precautions.
00:36:17
Speaker
So maybe it's like an old building from, like, the 40s that they just never update it. yeah It seems like Tama just bought it, and then now he owns whole building. don't Anyone goes there gets killed, so it's just like he can do whatever he wants.
00:36:35
Speaker
He's more concerned about his drug manufacturing than you know tenant safety. I like his drug manufacturing is generic drugs. We don't know what kind of drugs, but it's just drugs.
00:36:46
Speaker
It's like nuke. It's whatever future punk...
00:36:50
Speaker
it's whatever future punk like like awesome drug that is cheap enough that it can destroy know it can't kill you because people I guess take a lot of it but then ah it's highly addictive that people will be willing to live there like live near the drug source and like fight fight for the guy who like ah makes it Yeah, it's also another thing. like he the The kingpin's not the one... He's not the chemist.
00:37:20
Speaker
Actually, we don't even see the chemist. It's just sort of like... There's just a bunch of random guys... Yeah.
00:37:27
Speaker
A bunch of random guys are just pouring powders between different things, and then... Like, Rama and the... and and then ah Lieutenant, and then... The other guy... Like, think it's Dagu...
00:37:39
Speaker
um shows up. What I love about that um drug raid fight is that you've never seen that Dagu guy like do anything, and then all of a sudden he's just like, oh, also he like he's also he's like slightly below Ikou.
00:37:55
Speaker
Every character that like along the way has their own moment to shine if they aren't wiped out and in like little assaults. Dagu...
00:38:07
Speaker
and So, as I
Challenges in Action Scene Clarity
00:38:08
Speaker
mentioned, about the they can it's really hard to tell parts, since it's like they all dress similar. Yeah. So, the scene before, notice that Iko Uwe, he had to take his jacket off. like Yes.
00:38:21
Speaker
So, during that drug raid fight, you can kind of tell from easy blurs who's fighting, and where, what location, what's going in the background. And it didn't give him his ah his cut from that machete. Yeah.
00:38:35
Speaker
When he's hiding the wall and the machete goes to the wall cuts him. Which, that's... I mean, lot stuff's brutal, but that one is just kind of like... mix like That's like a flinch moment, where it's just like... Because it stays in his face for so long.
00:38:48
Speaker
And you can just still imagine it sliding out, too. It's just like, ugh, oh man. like There's a lot of crazy stuff in this movie, but that would be like... That's like the worst thing to see, kind of. or Because you'd know exactly what that would feel like.
00:38:59
Speaker
Yep. And they did a good effect of just, like, sliding it in and then the tension of it staying there. Yeah. ah That's the, like, I guess the horror element of it.
00:39:11
Speaker
Like, there's that, after the action sequence and after, like, the the crazy, like, shootout and explosion, in that scene where the two guys are trying to hide in that nice guy's apartment, it becomes like a slasher movie.
00:39:27
Speaker
Mm-hmm. They do a great tension of hiding in the walls and then trying to wait it out. But ah the crazy thing is, I thought maybe the nice doctor guy, the nice guy, something was going to happen to him. you know In the whole, like he did good, but then later on he might get caught or like you know the one of the bad guys knows he helped or something.
00:39:55
Speaker
Yeah. Mad Dog finds him or something and he's like, mm-hmm. you helped it You helped them.
00:40:02
Speaker
Time to go Mad Dog on you.
00:40:07
Speaker
And it turned it it turns out like that like that guy's also like a martial arts sex expert. He and Mad Dog have a fight. like
00:40:17
Speaker
Yeah, is that like the interview process in this building? It's like, you gotta like put a deposit down, then you fight the door guy, and that gets you in the apartment deposit? Yeah, it's like, how how high of a rank are you in a PennSec slot?
00:40:30
Speaker
why
00:40:34
Speaker
are you Are you part of any sort of ah national martial arts team, or like a world-ranked fighter?
00:40:50
Speaker
I think right after that, the scene with the machete in the wall, think that's the fight, which think has probably, from my pick, the most brutal kill of the movie, where he kicks the one guy through the door, but then the bottom of the is broken, and he slams that neck onto the broken door bottom.
00:41:10
Speaker
Yeah, I think that is pretty brutal, ah just because I feel like we've all walked over shards before. no i don't think i haven't kicked a hole through a door. Not yet, at least.
00:41:21
Speaker
Yeah. So I don't know what that feels like. But I've definitely walked past like a broken frame, and I just never thought about slamming someone's neck through it. That
Rama's Defensive Fighting Style
00:41:31
Speaker
is... Crazy. right Yeah.
00:41:34
Speaker
It comes after he doesn't try to... like Rama doesn't always try to go for the kill in his fights. He's very push-away, punch, almost like a Jackie Chan style of like, I'm just gonna like make distance.
00:41:49
Speaker
Because i'm like yeah I'm a cop, I i should probably be arresting these guys, but just can't stop and all. He's not even screaming, police, stop. like He just goes on like defense and all he wants to do is just knock out these guys, but if they won't go down being knocked out, he'll resort to killing.
00:42:06
Speaker
but its What's crazy is um when the raid starts, there's that guy watching TV like ahs outside, which i I guess he's like a guard or something but that they should they should like don't even tell him he's please just like kill him with like a like a ah but yeah ras it's like but then uh we don't see him die we just see him being pulled off into the darkness so for all I know they just bind him but they don't say that you know I I thought that too because was like is this a hit squad like should should you like tell him like like you're under arrest
00:42:39
Speaker
Like, youre you're just, like, comfortable with, without like and like, a strangle strangler guy. you know, for all we know, that guy is not all there. Like, that's just the, the like, handicapped kid or something. Like, just hanging outside watching TV.
00:42:53
Speaker
He's watching, like, a portable TV in hall. Like a kid's show. Yeah. yeah and Outside. So, yeah, it's not the signs of, like, wow, that guy's, like, a tough guard. It's just, like, a guy watching TV outside. no he doesn't have a gun. He doesn't have a weapon.
00:43:09
Speaker
Granted, even the later on in the building, they're racing the arresting people like in their own homes, so they're freaked out. I get that. there people like One or two rooms are just so drug dens. I get that, too.
00:43:20
Speaker
But the kid that like screams the cops, that was a kid, and there's like no remorse after that.
00:43:29
Speaker
Well, the guy that killed the yeah they well they guy killed The kid is like the el the corrupt lieutenant guy. Right, right. But like they don't even dwell on that. After that happens, and it sets off the actions of everything.
00:43:42
Speaker
But no one goes, oh you shouldn't have done that. Or like, oh no, we killed a kid. It's like, they they can't they don't have time to dwell on that. Yeah, there's they're just more upset that now now the building's allured to their presence and they're going to get like attacked by an army of criminals.
00:43:57
Speaker
Yeah.
00:44:00
Speaker
Criminals, like drug addicts, drug makers, and like, I don't know, like machete boys? like Yeah. so Like in terms of people that live in this building, the machete gang is interesting because it seems like they are from a different building because they they fight differently. They are way more prepared for what's going on. Mm-hmm.
00:44:23
Speaker
Well, are those... I'm trying to think if those are Mad are those mad Dogs guys. Because Mad Dog has like a crew... like He's like, here's my I'm sending my boys out, then. Oh. so I guess yeah they're all like insane like Mad Dog, then.
00:44:37
Speaker
Yeah. um because it could because cause and because Because Andy has got... like He has guys, but he kills them in the elevator. to like Because that's part of the whole thing. They're
Personal Twists in the Plot
00:44:48
Speaker
real, is that he is ah Rama's brother. Bum-bum-bum.
00:44:57
Speaker
Who, yeah, who who left and then yeah became the brains behind a massive drug operation.
00:45:08
Speaker
And, yeah, I mean, it's nice that they're brothers. That's like, that happens a lot in Asian movies where secretly it's like, oh, I'm your father or oh, I'm your brother. Mm-hmm.
00:45:20
Speaker
Star Wars wasn't the only movie that did that. Actually, it's a lot of like other movies that did you know family members in a position. So... It's not like a shocking twist. like The plot doesn't change dramatically.
00:45:35
Speaker
It just adds this cool fight at the end, which I still like. It's still pretty brutal. Oh, man. That... that That three-way fight is, like, one of the best fights of all time.
00:45:49
Speaker
Just... but like We'll get to that soon. We'll get to that. Okay. Yeah, we can say just a couple more things, probably. Yeah, yeah. ah Otherwise, like... i You really don't focus in on the other parts that are happening.
00:46:03
Speaker
Like, the other... The conversations that must have been happening between, like... What, like, sport... Golf guy, and then... Drago you know like like Rama breaks off from the main group a couple times yeah cause he has to is to east he has to get the ah he has to get the like was was it like Bowo yeah like i i will yeah yeah like he has to make sure he's safe and then he and he's going to try to find the rest of the squad and he like you know it gets into the fights with like the the machete boys and a bunch of other stuff
00:46:44
Speaker
The Meshady Boy's fight ends with like him like watching one of them out the window, and then they fall like couple stories and end up in like the fire escape. But he uses like the other guy to like break his fall.
00:46:57
Speaker
Yeah. But, okay, so... The idea is, it's almost like a game of death, too, where like they're trying to climb the tower to fight the boss, but Ramba starts back at, like, level 5 again?
00:47:10
Speaker
Yeah. needs to climb all the back up.
00:47:16
Speaker
the the so The scale of the room is off. How big of a building think this building is?
00:47:22
Speaker
I mean, it's 15 stories, right? Okay, 15 stories. Because Tom is on the 15th floor. And it's like a kind of brutalist apartment building. Yeah.
00:47:39
Speaker
Is that why they they have no hand railings over the edge? they' just so Brutalism? Yeah, just like, in case you're sad, like, oh no. Adrian Brody designed it.
00:47:51
Speaker
wait, is that... that's a fun He's the brutalist. That was the thing about the Metropolis one.
00:48:01
Speaker
It's spelled out of whatever that... The Megalopolis, like, uh... The stupid, like, material...
Building Design in 'The Raid'
00:48:09
Speaker
Didn't he have, like, a ruler sword in that movie?
00:48:13
Speaker
He had, like, a T-square thing that I think... I don't know if he used that stop time or if he just had, like, the ability to stop time. I just thought that was, like, an architecture tool he had if he wielded it, like, a dumb weapon.
00:48:26
Speaker
Anyway. when When it comes to, like, the scale, like, just because they start with, like, the... like in the production, they show you really quick how they climb up level 5, and then they don't really make a big show about getting to the top anymore.
00:48:43
Speaker
Once they do the... Once they approach the end, it just feels like they made it to the penthouse. like There's like no one left to stop them. They killed almost everyone. Yeah, they take out the drug... like The drug lab is the last big obstacle, and then that's they pretty much have like a free run to get up to the top to face off against Taba.
00:49:01
Speaker
Except for... Rom has to stop because he sees that Mad Dog is torturing Andy, and then we get the brother's fight. I'll let you talk about that, because it's it's a good fight.
Climactic Fight Scene Analysis
00:49:15
Speaker
I like that like Mad Dog is so confident for a fight that he lets down like the brother, he has time to like space it out, he gives them a moment for them to like mentally prepare for the fight.
00:49:29
Speaker
I also ah so love that room is, like, clearly designed, it was like, they built that room just to be, like, a fight room, because it's all, the entire middle of it just empty, and there's, like, stuff around the edges, but it's, like, it's just, like, a free space just for the fight each other in it.
00:49:44
Speaker
think, it looks like it's supposed to be some sort of, like, laundry room, like a boiler room or something, maybe, or, like, a utility room. I think utility, but they convert it, I think, in where it is in actuality, it probably is, like, a basement, like,
00:49:58
Speaker
utility room, but in the movie it's weird for them to have a like, laundry room on the 15th floor because like, the piping wouldn't, the pressure wouldn't go that high for a building like that.
00:50:09
Speaker
Yeah, it's pretty high up because like, they're on their way up to the top of the building and then they just happen to run across the So unless they built in butcher room, it's only meant for drainage.
00:50:20
Speaker
That's why I'm like... Mad Dog just wanted to like his own... he wants like Boss, can i have like a torture room with like a chain thing heist? always done it that that It's the only reason that in you would have a room like that in any design. You want drainage.
00:50:36
Speaker
You want flow. So being high up makes sense for the one thing. Because you just want to pressure wash that room. So that just means he's done this a couple times. He's done things in that Mad Dog room.
00:50:52
Speaker
like That's his weird playroom, and it's really scary. cause That means Andy must know, like oh shit, if he's taking me, I'm going to that goddamn... He's going to chain me up in the Mad Dog's doghouse or it is.
00:51:10
Speaker
But also, yeah Andy, for being such a smart guy, he gets, like, caught- he gets caught really easily. Yeah, it's like, he forgot there cameras. He forgot there cameras. He forgot Mad Dog was behind- like, directly behind him.
00:51:23
Speaker
Mm-hmm. Like, you know, it's like, if you're a smart, you're you should be also paranoid, too, about trying to betray the paranoid guy. So, once they call you in, and once the kingpin guy is doing the hand thing, like, show me your hands, oh, nothing, oh, oh, oh. Just start fighting.
00:51:42
Speaker
Just, even if you're wrong. Grab the knife. Grab the knife, at least.
00:51:47
Speaker
It's not like Andy couldn't fight. It's like, you just wanted to, like, keep the act up, and then you got like, a knife through your hand. Mm-hmm.
00:52:00
Speaker
Yeah, when your when your boss starts, like, you know, doing weird things about, like, show having, like, flip your hands around, and he's, like, menacingly eating an apple with a knife, like, you should probably be on, like, lookout for exits, like, be ready to, like, throw down. Yeah, don't have someone stand behind you who loves fighting people behind them.
00:52:21
Speaker
Mm-hmm.
00:52:23
Speaker
I'm just thinking about, like, just because also the boss was very, like, oh, like, trying to prove loyalty and stuff like that. It's like, you know you betrayed him, Andy.
00:52:35
Speaker
He's calling you out.
00:52:41
Speaker
But, uh, yeah, but going back to the last fight, like, just, it I love that it's like, um, just full, like, you've kind of seen, like, um, you know, a bunch of martial arts fights, but then this one is just like, they're just like fully, just like go ham, like full Pets X a lot, like full speed, full force. Like, there's just like, there's like going to all out with it against each other.
00:53:05
Speaker
And it's like, it's, it's so extended they're still, it's like, normally you'd see like them like like get tired and like start like, you know, like, it'd be like, a a time like Blonde or something where they, you starts, like, they're going for so long that they can barely fight anymore.
00:53:19
Speaker
They're going for, like, such a long time and it' still it's just still, like, the entire fight is just, like, full force.
00:53:26
Speaker
Yeah. It really goes to like, an exhaustion level. And there's this, like, I guess, like, I guess power balance.
00:53:40
Speaker
Because Mad Dog, he only fought, like, one person during this whole thing. He fought, uh, like... Jaka. Jaka. But, um, like, he just then, like, he's the most, like, charged, I guess?
00:53:57
Speaker
Because then Andy got, like, tortured. And i don't know how Iku Uwe, like, has... Rama has any goddamn energy. Yeah, he's fought like 50 guys.
00:54:12
Speaker
But, ah yeah, there's so like there's so many great moves, just like like little moments. There's a point where like Mad Dog's like on the ground, but he's like blocking both of their, like Andy and Rama's blows so easily. And then the like the like the the big flourish at the e with Andy stabs him neck with that fluorescent lightbulb.
00:54:34
Speaker
and then But then Mad Dog's still, like, he's even phased by it, he's still, like, going full force, like, fighting them, like, just as well as what was before, getting stabbed neck with lightbulb.
00:54:47
Speaker
yeah Like, it just shows how crazy Mad Dog is. Like, he's hes not, like, a fluorescent tube like, gushing blood out of it, he's still just, like, going as hard as he was before. It's just more of an annoyance to him, than an actual, like, slow you down.
00:55:00
Speaker
Like, I like stub my toe, and I just want to sit down, and like my day's over. i I don't think a frozen lightbulb in my neck, and I'm just like, yeah, I'm just so i'm okay.
00:55:13
Speaker
Let me keep going.
00:55:18
Speaker
And just like the way they finally they finally get him down, and then they like rama like just like runs it all but all the way across his neck.
00:55:26
Speaker
Such a brutal awesome finish. He's almost like a mythical monster that even if stab it like with the sacred weapon, you need to really more. do more You gotta slam it you have like slam it in or you have to ah like, tear into the villain, like, into the monster for it to, like, die.
00:55:47
Speaker
But, yeah, and like, in some movies, just even the bulb in the neck, the villain's dead, right? Like, it just... You poke them, uh, you got me, and they just stop moving. But... I do like, you know, mand Dog is just... ra He's full of rage.
00:56:04
Speaker
Mm-hmm.
00:56:07
Speaker
Yeah, and I feel like... um like yeah yeah ruhan like he he needs like you know because joe tazman got his own like lead role like he always obviously had a ton of roles like i feel like he needs his own kind of like but like he's a movie like star in because he's he's always like like he's been like a lot like supporting like like bad guy roles but like he definitely has like the chops to be like like some sort of crazy your revenge movie where he's just like going around killing people or something
00:56:35
Speaker
he's like the only He's like the only one of like the group that like hasn't gotten like their own starring role yet. um I'm trying to think what character. Like, if you did a like a karate kid type movie where he's the gardener of a building and then he teaches a guy to be an assassin, believe that.
00:56:58
Speaker
I just feel like he's got a very what's the right word? Like, He doesn't have a handsome face. You know, so it's like, how do you market that in that, like, he's not a traditional hero, but he'll be a kickass mentor.
00:57:16
Speaker
He'll be the secret, like, weapon you call in for support. And then it's like, okay, now he's like the hero.
00:57:25
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Like, he's like, yeah, because he's, I mean, obviously he came back from Raid 2, and he was awesome in that. He was so good in this movie, he came back as a whole new character, who's basically the same character.
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So I think he's the one he uses, I think, does he use the hammers, or like, trying remember which one? No. It's the girl that uses hammers. He's just back as like another, he's another like, top lieutenant for the next level boss.
00:57:51
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Yeah. And then he gets killed. Like, he kills the... He gets killed because um he was basically the same character for, like, a higher-up boss, and then if it's, like, they kill him, now the other guy is vulnerable.
00:58:07
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So that's why he had to get, like, killed. But he was, like, the family, like, henchman. Like, he was... In in that version, that character the character he played, he played a guy who pretty much has been loyal to, like, this father character.
00:58:19
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So... In a classic um like greed, fight for the throne thing, they take him out, which they require like so many people to take him out.
00:58:33
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Again, he's a good character, but that part of the movie is a different movie. Because I think in the and the sequel, Rahman doesn't face that guy ever. He has no idea who that guy is.
00:58:45
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I think they put that part in just for that actor. And obviously, and he was also in John Wick Chapter 3 as one of... Mark Dacascos... He's got his student henchmen with him.
00:58:58
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he's And he's
Martial Artists in 'Force Awakens'
00:58:59
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one of those guys. and And he has an awesome like John Wick fight. But then Force Awakens, completely wasted. my i don't even know why those guys were even written in that movie. Because it was like it was it it was him and Equal Way, and then... um The other like, uh, Sesep Rahman, who was like the other guy in John Wick Chapter 3, and they were all in the Force Awakens together and they did nothing. They got like eaten by giant monster.
00:59:33
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it's like, what was the point of getting all these like, uh, you know, awesome Indonesian martial arts guys? You're just gonna like not have to do any martial arts.
00:59:45
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You could have, like, a Donnie Yen and Rogue One thing going on, but...
00:59:56
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Anyway, hopefully yeah hopeful but hopefully ah all of them are, you know, still doing a bunch but more stuff in the future. forgot... I'm not sure what... I'm trying to think what the next, like, Ike Uwe thing He was in that Wu Assassins movie.
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Or, show. think I think the last night of Solomon was like Expendables 4, which was awful. would Did he do a good roll in that one? I didn't see Expendables 4. He was the bad guy.
01:00:23
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yeah was the bad guy? Yeah, he was one that took over the freighter ship that they were trying to get. They had whatever nuclear weapons on it or whatever was going He did get the one highlight, which is he and Tony John did an awesome fight.
01:00:38
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Or he and Jason Statham had an awesome fight. i think it was the knife fight, but
01:00:44
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Other than that, like that movie's awful. That says something, because you you pretty much love like Statham and Sloan movies, and you're just... You're like, oh god, no.
01:00:56
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ah There's another Skyline movie coming out, too
01:01:01
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Wasn't there a second one? The fourth one is coming out this year.
01:01:08
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I think i think like it's like... um He's always been in, like like, two of them, maybe? And then, like, Scott Atkins is in them.
01:01:19
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um i i I feel like and i should I need to watch them just because they've been throwing, like, but but like awesome people in them. But I've only seen the first one. The first one's, like, pretty bad.
01:01:29
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The first one is, like, a different movie from everything. Yeah. I remember, like, one guy became an alien. Mm-hmm.
01:01:41
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Yeah, think I think it became more of like a... There's now now like there's ah these these like badasses that are just fighting the aliens. Like Scott Atkins and Iku Uwe and Daniel Bernhardt. There's tons these you know actually like martial arts action stars that aliens
01:02:10
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And definitely definitely excited to see ah Havoc from Gareth Evans. um um I'm sure I'll but'll definitely have a review of that on the site soon. and But you know what's crazy about his like his latest project before Havoc?
01:02:26
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Gareth Evans made a video game and then he made a TV show based on his video game.
01:02:34
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Which one was that? He made a spinoff of The Getaway. It was like a PSP game that didn't do too well. It was like the third getaway game.
01:02:45
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It was Gangs of London. And then he took he loved his story so much, he convinced like BBC to then make a show based on that game. And they did.
01:02:57
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i've heard I've heard that show is awesome. Yeah. But ah essentially, he made... like
01:03:04
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uh like a guy richie type movie like a type guy richie type game but took out any of the humor because it's all about like betrayal and the drama then like hey like i want to protect this gang and the legacy of a gang and then he made it almost like a game of thrones thing where every gang is trying to play mind games with each other and there's all this like interfighting and it makes sense in a in a mafia game um But the thing is, it's like, it came out on PSP.
01:03:33
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You know, like, you could do so much on a PSP. and it's like, man, this been ah great game if it came out on, I don't know, a real console, like a real, something of power to tell the story. But I guess it was enough of a story in and just detail that, like, it translated really well to the TV show.
01:03:51
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Because I think the TV show a sequel to the game.
01:03:56
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I'm not sure if it's a sequel or, like, it its it has characters from the game. But it's like a reinterpretation. I'm interested in it. i've seen I've seen clips and it's like really dramatic.
01:04:06
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And it's like, do you like like a lot of dramatic talking and and meetings of maft Mafia? Like, this is it. This is gangs English gangsters. but then But then mixed with like Gareth Evans create like crazy action sequences.
01:04:21
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i don't I think it's a lot of hooligan fighting. A lot of guys like meeting in streets and brawling, and then occasionally a gun battle. But it's it's nowhere near like the raid. could you so Did you see Apostle?
01:04:34
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Did not.
Gareth Evans' 'Apostle'
01:04:36
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Like the Dan Stevens, which is, it's Garrett Evans, it's got a lot of his like kind of like styles in there, but it's it's like ah more of like a horror movie. It's like a folk horror movie, actually. it's like the Wicker Man, kind of.
01:04:49
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where Dan Steven has to go to this island and rescue this kidnapped girl.
01:04:54
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And then it kind of has Resident Evil 4 vibes a little bit, where it's like this like this like yeah super isolated like island um village, and all these like people, and then there's weird stuff happening below the village.
01:05:12
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It was definitely, if you want you want to see like a slightly different style of Gareth Evans' movie, it's definite' it's cool. It's on Netflix.
01:05:20
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and And obviously also his VHS 2 segment, Safe Haven, is also incredible.
01:05:29
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Where it's like this this like film crew is going to like document this cult and then the like all hell breaks loose.
01:05:39
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Like, everyone just starts, like, this crew, it's like, the cult, like, the cult, like, everyone just starts, like, there's, like, a doomsday cult, they all start, like, killing each other, and it's, like, insanity's happening, and the folks are trying to, get out of there.
01:05:57
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It's, like, it's definitely, like, one of the best, like, VHS segments of, like, the entire series.
01:06:04
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yeah i'll check it out i feel like he's a good directors just like that he only has like
01:06:12
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yeah it's it's Yeah, it's crazy how little he's done, but then all of it's been pretty awesome. Like, he hasn't really missed.
01:06:20
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I'm definitely curious to see, like, Muranto, too. like ah the Like, just, like, read like but reading some stuff about the raid and, like, how it got developed and stuff and just ah knowing that ever all those like all those guys are in, like, Muranto.
01:06:32
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and i think that's on, like, Roku and, like, Pluto TV, too. It's ah pretty, like, easily accessible.
01:06:39
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But ah yeah, The Raid, it's still, you know, however many years later, it's still awesome. It's still
Conclusion and Future Content
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one of the best like action movies of the 2010s and beyond.
01:06:56
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And yeah, hopeful hopefully Havoc is like even half as good as The Raid. It's got a bunch of people in it and you know, I'm curious to see, like, because Tom Hardy's not really a martial arts guy either, so I'm um i'm guessing it's probably more like gunfights and brawling, but we'll see. That's why I'm like, I have monies on his, like, more grounded stuff, where it's a lot of, like, shouting and then, like, bum rush brawls.
01:07:24
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Mm-hmm.
01:07:28
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But yes, I think they'll do it for this week's podcast. Come back next week. I think we're trying to figure out our May schedule, but we'll definitely have something interesting to talk about next week. And you can head over to our site and check out our Willow commentary.
01:07:41
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It's up. Our April commentary is, which we did in tribute to Val Kilmer, who obviously you know passed away earlier this month. But we watched Willow. You watch that along with us. Sync it up to Disney Plus or Prime Video or wherever you have Willow.
01:07:56
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01:08:08
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01:08:21
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