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Speaker: like sharing. answer a It would be fantastic. So, Dan, what are we here to talk about tonight? I asked you what you want to talk about, and you said? Action movies.
Speaker: Action movies. Because what else would we talk about with a science fiction author, right? Not sci-fi movie, not science fiction movies. Oh, no, no. That would be too boring. you know it's like let's talk me like I like that wrinkle. It makes a lot of sense to me.
Speaker: So talk to me about, okay, we're going to focus on the 80s.
Speaker: What are your favorite action movies from the 80s? And then we're going to maybe toward the we'll do a little compare and contrast about like today's action, what's what's considered an action franchise today versus back in the day.
Speaker: Oh, yeah. Well, one of the movies of that I'm pretty sure you're well worth Rambo. Oh, Pierce just said it right there. Rambo, you got Die Hard. You got The Running Man. That's really not...
Speaker: serious, but it's still anything do with Arnold Schwarzenegger
Speaker: in it? Not everything. Okay, fine. Twins. was Twins was exactly an action movie. yeah Yeah. I'm going to posit that Die Hard is a Christmas movie, not an action movie.
Speaker: Christmas action, maybe. Like a cross-genre.
Speaker: Predator is a good action movie right there. That's actually more
Speaker: Yeah, good one. Did you like Predator better than the Predator 2?
Speaker: Predator 2 had Danny Love in it. He was hunting in L.A. Yeah. Yeah, I actually did like the first Predator movie because, you know, with that one right there, with Predator 2, it was more...
Speaker: I don't know. I just couldn't feel it the way I did with the first predator movie. You know, it's one of those things like, and it's not just because our surgery was in the, in the first predator movie. It was also the fact that they actually had good writing and the action was pretty good.
Speaker: their hopes It's one of those things that you can actually feel like, okay, fine. Now, you know, the hunt is on, you have our associate go against an alien. Yeah.
Speaker: Sounds awesome. Alien Who is one ugly motherfucker. Oh, yeah. What are you thinking about Shane Black? you
Speaker: good I'm sorry, I cut you off. Go ahead and say that again. I was going to say, like you know yeah especially with that little crab mouth of his. Yeah.
Speaker: yeah And the predator versus alien, the one that comes out to the chestburster with burster was's a little mouth flexors. I thought that was pretty neat. you The crossover predator alien.
Speaker: Um, Jane black. Are you aware of Shane black? A little bit. I can't remember exactly what movie. like write smooth Um, he's pretty involved in the predator universe right now. He wrote to the predator and I think he might've directed it, but I'm not sure about the direction. Uh,
Speaker: But he was in the original Predator movie. don't know if you're aware. He was one of the actors. Oh, was he? we He was the small guy who did not look like a tough guy like the rest of them that was telling all the jokes.
Speaker: Oh, him. Okay. Yes, he did. He did direct it, too. Thank you, Pierce. Appreciate you, Wally. I thought he did, but I wasn't positive on that one.
Speaker: He was one telling the jokes. instead I told my wife the other day I'd like to have a little pussy. She said, me too. Mine's as big as a house. That was Shane Black's character. Okay, now I'm... That was Shane Black's... He wrote directed the newest one called The Predator.
Speaker: People say it's the worst one in the series. I thought it was a lot of fun to watch. A lot of fun. Thomas Jane was in it. Isn't that The Predator? Isn't that the one where...
Speaker: in the end they get like a ah suitor armor i'm thinking with yes which was dumb the predator killer yeah the predator killer armor i thought that part was really stupid but yeah it's that boyd holbrook i think he's the actor a lot of fun it was just a fun movie to watch man it was fun from start to finish i didn't love everything they did Like the dreadlock dogs I thought were kind of stupid. So why dot they all have dreadlocks? I just just don't understand what's going on with their world. Why are dreadlocks such an important evolutionary fault, you know?
Speaker: Well, exactly. I mean, it's kind of reminded me of the whole Avatar thing too. You know they had little bit of dreadlocks going on too, didn't they? Because their dreadlocks had like a little tentacle thing. So they just share their incest or whatever. That was super weird too. James Cameron is strange character.
Speaker: I liked almost all of them. i really I just did not get into Predator 2, man. I could not get into it. I didn't like it. I can't explain it. i mean That's the thing. I right i never could really get into it either. i mean Don't get me wrong. you know like What was his name? the Glover.
Speaker: but Yeah, Danny Glover. yep Danny Glover. There's good old movie right there. freaking lethal weapon. Absolutely. all The whole series. I think every one of those was good.
Speaker: oh yeah I'm the way gets. Whatever you need, I get. yeah Except for the TV series they came out with. I didn't even know they did that.
Speaker: Yeah, they did a freaking remake TV series. I'm like, seriously? Like a soft movie? yeah Yeah, it's like, I watched it and was like, this is the stupidest thing I've ever seen. Like, they You can definitely see that they're trying really hard to portray characters of Mel Gibson and Danny Glover. I'm like, quit try to force it. you know If you're going to reboot the damn series, make it your own kind of thing.
Speaker: Not freaking try it. Yeah, yeah. Do it in the original in a different way, right? Don't worry about audience expectations. That's the place. I don't mind subverting audience audience expectations with stuff like that.
Speaker: So if you're going to redo it, you know it's it shouldn't be shot-for-shot remake. We've already seen that. If you're going to redo it, redo it. Impress me. Rewrite it better if you can.
Speaker: yeah And then then the whole fact that they brought ah you know Agent Murtaugh. Is it Murtaugh? Murtaugh? Yeah. Murtaugh. That's Danny Glover.
Speaker: Yeah, no, i'm not Danny Glover. Not Danny Glover. Who's his dad's name? Rick. ring flip Riggs, yes, there we go. you I liked his character. you know He had a good character arc.
Speaker: you know At first, he was like all suicidal kind of thing. you know He had a whole bunch of demons on about him. And then threw throughout the ter entire movie series, yeah it kind of mellows out a little bit. Still has those quirks. still I think he had PTSD, if remember correctly.
Speaker: okay And it's like, okay, that's great. But you compare that to the friggin remake for the TV series.
Speaker: It wasn't really there. Was it a remake? or Was it like a prequel or what? i have no I have no knowledge at all. remake
Speaker: heres like your own like not how put It It was like a retelling, but in a for for a TV format. And they tried telling the RFO or was it like a PG show?
Speaker: It was a little more like a PG show. I mean, it wasn't it didn't have that R feeling. yeah That's not Lethal Weapon. That's less than Lethal Weapon.
Speaker: up like And you know that's one one thing I would say about action movies these days is the fact that they don't have as much violence as they used to back then.
Speaker: i Back in the 80s, past the early 90s. Not the real stuff. It's all CGI. Well, not all of it, but it's too much CGI. Perfect example. got you I hate I'm even bringing it up because I hate the series so much.
Speaker: I stopped after the second one. Haven't watched a single one of them since. Fast and Furious. That is everything that's wrong with cinema today. That series is... and The fact that there are 10 or 11 of them, whatever there are.
Speaker: for Shame on you, America. Stop buying that ticket. I think 13, I think. Isn't it? for me No, maybe it's 11. It could be 13 or 11. I can't the same is How many there are, there's at least nine too many.
Speaker: don't think they good at... That's my opinion. No, I agree. I mean, I think they were good at freaking Fast and Furious... think, what it? Three? Three was Tokyo Drift. I didn't even watch that one.
Speaker: Yeah. I had no i' already checked out. I had no... Well, watched it, and I'm like, okay, this is good. But what confused me, though, is apparently three was...
Speaker: supposed to be a prequel to a sequel, which was then prequel. I'm like, what the frig is going on with this damn series? Because it's like, then they bring back guy from fast from Tokyo Drift, who supposedly perished in a car accident, later on.
Speaker: And I'm like, well, what the frig? What is this? What would Kathy Bates and Luke say about that? He didn't get out of the cock-a-tootie car.
Speaker: But yeah, that's that's my whole thing. Even like with the with the race sequences, yeah, there's a lot of live stuff. But when they take you out of the live and then put in one CGI shot, like I want to say it was a ah brief moment. I was at somebody's house and they jumped off of something onto houses and shit.
Speaker: And we're jumping from house to house on fucking ah with muscle cars. Apparently, nobody in that fucking movie was ever in their life involved in construction because that's not going to happen. I mean, especially in Italy or wherever the hell it was. I want to say it was like slate tiles, too. It was like old construction.
Speaker: Dude, I'm telling you right now, the the first roof they land on, going through it, chase over. more yeah, because as soon as they land on it, oh, look, your car is right. Oh, never mind.
Speaker: Hey, Martha, can I do something? hey i mean when they
Speaker: It's already bad enough without way of action. let's Let's add a little bit, just a midge the smidge, smidge, smidge of realism into action movies. like That was the thing. You went what to compare back in the day.
Speaker: Same thing with Rambo and Schwarzenegger. yeah My favorite thing was how they never had to reload. Oh, right. we They always had enough shots. It didn't matter.
Speaker: Oh yeah, definitely. Like for example, like what was the the Terminator movies. In Terminator, it's like, okay, I get it. He's a robot and whatnot. Like what does he have? Like magical little bullets coming out of his wrist?
Speaker: You know, like he's... It's like, I'm reloading as I'm shooting.
Speaker: That was almost one of his more realistic ones. Like you believe like he would run out of bullets whatever. He'd drop the weapon and get the next weapon. Drop the weapon and grab the next weapon. He always had one ready to go.
Speaker: It was the ones where he wasn't a robot that that it got crazy. Commando and things like that. Commando. Man, I forgot about that one. What a great movie. Alyssa Milano played his daughter, I believe.
Speaker: I think so, too, yeah. Yeah, I've never seen that movie. best movie got one One of Arnold's best one-liners ever. Hey, Sully, let off some steam. And he chucks that pipe at him. ah Yeah.
Speaker: the I figured, is that the one where he goes like... they use this is it Isn't Commando the one where he's in like he's in like that plane sequence and he punches a guy and breaks a guy's neck and he's like, leave my friend alone, he's sleeping. He's been dead tired.
Speaker: I think that was Commando. Oh, boy. I can't remember. Sometimes when you watch these movies... That sounds right. I'm pretty sure that is Commando. Yeah, yeah. because he thats what That's the scene where he says, hey, remember when I said I'd kill you last? I lied. No, not the same scene. Not the same scene.
Speaker: Because he like he lets Sully go and throws him off of a cliff in the Hollywood Hills or something like that. Yeah, but I know what you're talking about. He's trying to sleep it off. Just leave him alone. Yeah, you're right. yeah That's absolutely right.
Speaker: Sometimes when you watch a movie... Okay, well,
Speaker: Go ahead. great oh I was going to say, yeah, sometimes when you watch these movies, they all just kind of clump together at one point. It's like, was this from this movie? No, no, no, was from this movie. Are you sure?
Speaker: got,
Speaker: what was other one? I think you, um Collateral Damage, I think there was that movie. Eraser,
Speaker: yeah, Eraser, there was another good movie right there.
Speaker: It was alright. I didn't hate that one. The Sixth Day. oh yeah, that was a good movie too. minute i didn't care I didn't care for it. and Almost I didn't care. I didn't hate it. but It was another one just wasn't as good.
Speaker: But I think it was trying to like calm it down a little bit and try to do a little more storytelling instead of just being the action guy. i believe The Sixth Day, he was already the governator when he made that one.
Speaker: I think so too, yeah. think that was when he was the governor for California at the time. I'm trying to remember what the other movie was. There was another one where he played a it was like a supernatural movie. He was fighting the devil or something like that. And he apparently, earn agree yeah, he was in this like a supernatural type movie. Apparently he was fighting with the devil or something like that.
Speaker: And he was trying to save this one girl and sacrifices The devil was super holy and every scene the devil was trying to bang somebody, right? a
Speaker: Oh man, who played the devil in that? It wasn't Killian Murphy, wasn't a young guy. What was it the his name? um
Speaker: Isn't it the same dude who is ah who runs the Continental in the John Wick movies? No, wasn't him. You're seeing Pink Panther? No, I think he was the guy who played. Hines, by chance?
Speaker: Probably, yeah.
Speaker: That's going to bug me, actually. I'm looking it up. yeah I'm looking it up. Don't worry. mu sleep what What was the movie called? that Do you recall?
Speaker: I can't remember. All I just remember is that the devil was in there. He was fighting the devil in that movie. And
Speaker: whoses End of Days. and There we go. It's called End of Days.
Speaker: Gabriel Byrne is the one plays the devil. yeah yeah He was in ah The Usual Suspects. Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah, i remember now. doing
Speaker: but you know i I will say that that much right there. is like That was probably the first movie I ever seen. I don't recall ever seeing Arnold Schwarzenegger die in a movie.
Speaker: And that's probably the first time I actually did see him die in the movie.
Speaker: No. Schwarzer doesn't die. No. Yeah, that's that's one of the things where like that little tropes about him is like, he never dies in the movie.
Speaker: You ever know his life? It's like, oh, he feels he looks like he's going to die in this movie. No, he lives somehow. It's kind of like I was talking about when Ray said it. Last action hero explained action movies in the best way. Don't you agree?
Speaker: Oh, yeah. I remember that one right there. The guy with the little glass eye, too. is like Charles Dance. That's Charles Dance's character. He is a bad motherfucker in everything.
Speaker: I wonder what he's like in person, he's a prick in every fucking role. He's such an unlikable dick. I can't think of a single role who was actually nice. And if it was, if it wasn't memorable, so I don't recall it at all.
Speaker: so He was the bad guy in the Golden Child back in the day. oh yeah, that's right. I remember with Eddie Murphy. Yeah. I want the knife. Right?
Speaker: right Oh, yeah, ah especially the scene where he's in the airport right there with the guy, too. It's like, what was he saying?
Speaker: He's so acting like, oh, like, you haven't seen you all so well. Yeah. we see yeah And he's like, I you know i don't know if that's ad-libbed or not, too, the scene where he kisses him on the mouth or something like that. He's like,
Speaker: He's just all surprised and whatnot. I can't imagine that was planned because just don't see that being Charles day charles Dance's acting choice on that one. They're like, no, figure another way out, fuckface. You're not putting your lips on me.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Exactly. It's like, you know, that's one of the things I did like with some movies ah out back there too is the fact that sometimes I did do ad-libs. You know, it's like, oh this is great. This wasn't even planned, but it's still good.
Speaker: kind of like watching but the punisher movie you know uh with uh the stunt person or the person who was involved with the props with uh what was his name uh the wrestler guy yeah nash steve yeah playing the russian yes and he and wears waldo t-shirt yep apparently he got stabbed for real in that movie and he's still smiling yes he did and it's like You can see Thomas Jane's face.
Speaker: When the knife goes in, you see it on Thomas Jane's face. He's like, what the fuck just happened? For a brief second. And Homeboy didn't even stop. He just said, keep going, keep going. Don't worry about it. It's fine.
Speaker: Yeah. He buried that knife like four inches into his pectoral muscle. I mean, dude, what the fuck? What a professional, though. Nash is just like, go with it, go with it, go with it. All the blood on him in that scene is his real blood.
Speaker: He just can he said, roll with it, keep going. He wasn't even upset. He wasn't even mad. thought it was fucking thelars and that help bad that as thomas jane felt about He thought it was hilarious it was hilarious.
Speaker: But everybody on the scene was like, oh my God, never fuck with that man. He could just take a knife and just, ah, this is great, I'm an actor. I just got paid to get stabbed. This is sweet.
Speaker: i was like what so that so i't know that old eating false um I keep cutting you off. I'm sorry. um that wass okay you Go ahead. that i All the old 80s classics. what what you're probably Let's play a game called Mount Rushmore. You know Mount Rushmore?
Speaker: Four Faces on the Mountain.
Speaker: Mount Rushmore. What's on your Mount Rushmore for 80s action movies? That's a tough one. So many great 80s action movies.
Speaker: Well, I'll have to go with, well, definitely Rambo. That's definitely one. Now, which one? The first one.
Speaker: I love the first one. That was called First Blood. That was called First Blood. Rambo was the second movie, Rambo First Blood Part II.
Speaker: Great. And then Rambo III.
Speaker: Yeah, I just called Rambo and Rambo II and whatnot. A lot of people do, but that's the something they just forget about. that the Because the first movie is Nobun's favorite. They liked the one where he goes and starts fucking up the Vietnam and shit. and They loved it when he went Rambo 3 and went over into the fucking sandbox and started fucking those people up.
Speaker: so It doesn't matter who Rambo's killing as long as just after they're killing somebody. So, Last Blood. Did you see that one? The like the the final Rambo series?
Speaker: Yeah, don't know. What did you think about that one? I think it was a good ending to Rambo. You know, because he he leaves it in the end, it left it ambiguous whether or not he survived or not.
Speaker: Because, you know, he's sitting in his chair at the end there. And then it's like... Was the sun going down? I think so, yeah. If the sun was going down, that's not ambiguous.
Speaker: Shane rides off into the sunset. What does the sunset mean? yeah You know what happens once the sun goes down? Your ass is dying.
Speaker: True. so i think that's I think that's what the implication is. But not showing it, showing it leaves open for Rambo 6. God, I hope he doesn't do that. Don't do He's do that at all Right now, he's having too much trauma I think he's having too much fun on Tulsa King.
Speaker: So what do you think of
Speaker: Remo Williams? you Remember Remo Williams? The Adventures of Remo Williams? I do. I think I remember Remo Williams. I remember what movie she was in. That came out of nowhere. Fred Ward as an action hero.
Speaker: I remember what movie that was.
Speaker: and or
Speaker: Yeah, fred it's on Tubi. Try to check it out if you haven't seen it. Yeah, Remo Williams, I'm sorry, not The Adventure, Remo Williams, The Adventure Begins. ah Interesting concept, well acted.
Speaker: It's on my Mount Rushmore. I just forgot we were doing that and wanted to bring that one up. So just kind of brought up a comprehensive list of 80s action flicks. So in an 80s action flick, do you count like Superman as an action movie or is that a superhero film?
Speaker: Does it cross genres? I think it cross genres, actually. My personal opinion. mean, yeah, I know the comic book movie and I know it's a superhero flick, but at the same time, you know it is action. you know like I think anything that can do with action in there, if they're punching and you know being like, oh, wait, we're not on TikTok.
Speaker: being the shit out of each other. you know i off call i be honest i actually paused for more I was like, I got to watch more. No way. I don't watch more words. is But yeah, no way.
Speaker: Be all the wordings you want. Yeah. Well, it's like, yeah, and I think, you know, when it comes to Superman back in the eighties, wait, wasn't the first Superman movie made back in 1970 something?
Speaker: I think it was 1978 or 79 was the original. Yeah. But still, I would still consider that a... Superman 4 was 87. I didn't realize they were that old. Superman 4, the really bad one.
Speaker: mean, 3 was bad. 4 was worse, which is impossible to believe. Wasn't 4... I think that's when they introduced Nuclear Man, think. The quest for peace.
Speaker: Yeah. Yeah, he's grabbing all of the missiles. He came back. Yep, threw him all in the sun, that's right. He was on a quest for peace and willing to go to war with anybody who tried to stop him. Yeah, which is kind of stupid if you think about it this way, because what Superman pretty much did was disarm all the countries, but now if there's going to be an alien invasion, the only person who could probably stop the alien invasion would be him, but if he's not around, how the fuck is anyone going to protect themselves at that point?
Speaker: Hey, do you have any new stuff at all? Superman boy scout who is so nearsighted. Superman can't see the forest or the trees. The DC hero of choice is the Batman.
Speaker: He knows how to kill Superman because Superman is a god. And what do you need? A god killer.
Speaker: Well, definitely. mean Of course, I know some people say Batman can only kill him because he has a he plans head. He never can do it on the fly.
Speaker: But I like to say that they're wrong on that one because I think if push comes to shove, I think Batman could think of something on the fly. yeah I think Batman could, if he had to, find a way on the spot, he would find a way.
Speaker: He's that much. thatmin that thing Batman's super freak fans will tell you this. Batman's superpower is not having billions of dollars or all the gadgets.
Speaker: It's his prep ability. He preps so much for every situation. He wants to live and he wants to win. That's what he does.
Speaker: He goes in thinking of every possible scenario. How can I lead it? How can I, what do they say? Uh, If you can't choose your battle, choose your battleground.
Speaker: That type of thing. He just out-thinks you. That's Batman's superpower. He out-thinks you. With prep time, they say that Batman's invincible. I disagree.
Speaker: Because, again, Superman is freaking God. that's fine Superman bores me. Superman's not exciting because he's a God. So when the one weakness you have is a rock from your home planet, that's not something that just grows on every fucking tree. Or that even grows on a couple of trees here on this planet.
Speaker: It's just stupid to make somebody that fucking powerful. It's boring. It really does it. It's so hard to raise the stakes that way. Well, he's also weak against magic, too. Don't forget.
Speaker: Oh, yeah. It's stupid. i'm I'm against Superman, period. i'm not I'm not the biggest DC fan. Like the Flash. The Flash is lame. I don't care who you are. Piss on you if you're a Flash fan. You're lame.
Speaker: Flash can't fly. He runs really fast. He's even super strong. All I'm saying is does work he does one of those super round punch deals. He's shattering his own bones.
Speaker: is He's not super strong. It's just dumb, man. I don't know. you that A lot of superheroes are super weak. A lot of them were. no I get that, and I agree with you. like you know Some of those people in DC comics with those you know superpowers is one of those like, really?
Speaker: So you got Mortal Men, like Batman, as you pointed out, and if he's and if Batman is with his sidekick, a.k.a. Robin, well, then you're freaking screwed right there.
Speaker: i mean, Batman even proved it one point in time. I think i was watching a cartoon movie with him in it. And he proved the point with greenland yeah without Green Without his ring, Green Lantern is nothing, really.
Speaker: But Adam is like, yeah. He's a pilot. He's a test pilot. Yeah, it's like. Yeah, exactly right. It's like, yeah. And then, of course, you got, what is it, Martian Manhunter right there. You know, he can shape-and-shift. He can go into things. And at the same time, it's one of those, you know, it what' it was he was it like mercury no not mercury he's standing fire or something and he gets off he freaks out
Speaker: oh he's running through the woods on fire i don't remember what what that was but yes i do remember that he's absolutely freaking out john's yeah yeah and then it it's like i can't remember what wonder woman was um i think it's like if you make your tire out or something like that because i remember watching the movie where batman's constituency plans were found out and were used against the justice league and i think they said ronald's weakness is over fighting really that's her weakness right there days they made her iron deficient she got tired yeah exactly i'm like i mean it's one of those things like at least they gave
Speaker: Superman, something that they could have tangible, but with one woman's like, yep, if Batman tries to go fighting her one-on-one, he's done. But once again, though, that's where he comes with it. He's got suits and shit that help him with this, that, and the other, but at the end of the day, his anti-Superman suit, dude, he's got laser vision.
Speaker: If he stares at you long enough, you're fucking gonna melt. I don't care what kind of metal it is. He's got like <unk>s He's basically like, okay, do you watch the boys?
Speaker: Oh yeah. Yeah, with Homelander. Homelander is my Superman. Homelander is my Superman. Think about it. You're raised to be told how special you are your entire life.
Speaker: How do you not get corrupted? Absolute power corrupts absolutely, right? You're an author. You know the golden rule. Oh yeah, exactly. yeah You make gods.
Speaker: Yeah. You make gods, you're going act like gods, Yeah. precisely that. You know, it's like, and that's what I like about Homelander. I think Homelander is the epitome of what Superman should have been. You know, it's like, what happened? or actually, they they kind of did do that at one point, actually.
Speaker: What was it called? Injustice. Where's... Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And the Red Sun. That was a good one, too. i Alternate, like Marvel does What If or whatever.
Speaker: They're alternate storylines. Superman lands in the Soviet Union instead of in Martha and John Kent's path. yeah So he's raised by the state to be super, you know, communist guy.
Speaker: The exact opposite of standing for, you know, truth, freedom in the American way. Yeah, exactly. and mic still has't a good all me on whose book He sees America, realizes they're not the enemy and and hates communism.
Speaker: Right? Uh, yeah, you got, like, once again, you gotta love the comic book movies, like, yeah, we can't have these guys staying bad guys for long. We gotta, like, forget the absolute power of corrupting, you know?
Speaker: But once again, though, like I said, they all... It's a bit too popular to be bad for too long. But I'll tell you right now, like, with their alternate universes, they've really done some interesting things with Batman. They've done some neat shit with Superman.
Speaker: um a lot of the characters, even Wonder Woman, but, like, one of my favorite, Batman... is Jonathan Kent.
Speaker: His father. Bruce gets shot. The mother loses her mind and becomes the Joker. And the father becomes Batman.
Speaker: Yeah, he and he has... dark stories experience yes And it's fucking a amazing, man. this Because Batman's, well, Bruce's father, he didn't mind lethal killing.
Speaker: He actually carries like two guns with him. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Twin shooters. You bet, man. And he is, yeah, he kills all of them. Yeah, Brittany, that's true. That's true. I can't remember what what universe it is, but it's an alternate DC universe where Bruce Wayne is shot, what the mother not the mother.
Speaker: She becomes the Joker. others were pre yeah That happened in Flashpoint. It was. yeah That's right. Flashpoint Batman. You're absolutely right.
Speaker: Good job. yeah I only know the story because I saw the suit in one of the Batman games and I started doing a little research on what was going on with that suit and that particular Batman. It was like, wow. yeah And then kind of started doing a lot of other stuff. like I watch a lot of comic book channels on YouTube and shit.
Speaker: I like that stuff. I'm a giant fucking nerd. Yeah. Yeah, oh and once again, though, too, like, and just kind of going back to what we were talking about earlier, you know, action movies, you know, Batman is definitely would be an action movie. Like, when you say that, in general, a comic book movie, a a DCU or whatever, MCU, those imply they're going to be action movies because they're so they're they're about superheroes and comics, right?
Speaker: So then you could kind of make a distinction. Yeah, they're action movies, but they're their own type of action movies. The subgenre is so different and far removed from regular action. You know what
Speaker: mean? Exactly.
Speaker: Just gave myself drink. Let's not a count superhero movies from any year as an action movie because they are action movies anyway, just by default kind of. Except for, I don't know,
Speaker: The Watchmen was good. it was really, really good. But as far as an action movie, it really told the story more than it showed the action. And I liked that a lot. ah Anything with flawed heroes, that's why I love the boys so much.
Speaker: Like DC, the stories are grittier and a little more interesting than Marvel in most cases. But Marvel's got some dark stories, like the zombies universe and stuff like that. It's all pretty neat.
Speaker: Some of the stuff that Doctor Strange gets into, it's like They fuck with ah devils and demons with Mephisto and everything else and Johnny Blaze and all that whole thing with Ghost Rider. I mean, Marvel's interesting. It's a much more interesting universe.
Speaker: DC's more fun in a lot of ways and more campy in a lot of ways, but also a lot darker in a lot of ways. Oh, definitely. went The darkest stories are the best ones.
Speaker: Frank Miller's fucking run on Batman is the mike the premier Batman, in my opinion. Frank Miller never wrote anything better than Batman. You want to talk about a brutal DC universe?
Speaker: Check out the Absolute Universe version of the DC Universe. i've been I've been listening to a lot of stuff about it. Absolute fucking Superman is a hoss. Absolute fucking Batman is a beast. Absolute fucking Killer Croc.
Speaker: What the fuck? And then you get to see, like, they actually had a leak, I think, of what Absolute Joker was supposed to look like. Joker looks like a fucking demon in this in the in the series. Cool.
Speaker: He's like long. The Absent Universe is really weird.
Speaker: Yeah, Killer Clock. Killer Clock is the shit. It was one of my favorite Batman villains. But dude, i don't know. Depending on the Joker you're talking about, it's the Joker and the Batman are just... They're your peanut butter and jelly. They're ham and burger.
Speaker: They go together. Well, yeah. You got chaos and you order. That's...
Speaker: I mean, you know, like you can't have one. we very boldive Who's your definitive on-screen Joker? On-screen Joker. Now, that's tough right there because one, Jack Nielsen an excellent job on I would say ah Romero did a good job too, but when it comes to on-screen movies,
Speaker: what's... he played in I like Cesar Amor's take. Yeah. um And I really like Jack Nicholson's take. In the time, I didn't like it as much as I i should have.
Speaker: I was younger, too. I think amount of thing I was a freshman in high school. i I will say, though, I liked Heath Ledger's Joker. Liked. Yeah.
Speaker: But I loved Jack Nicholson's take. I liked Heath Ledger. And like I said, comparing the because I think when it comes to Heath Ledger's Joker, he was unhinged, but he was very tactical.
Speaker: Whereas Jack Nielsen's Joker, he wasn't tactical. He was just chaos. You know he wanted to gas the entire town just because. But where...
Speaker: He's pleasure's joker. He was tactical. He had a plan in place. Even though he said, do I look like a guy with that with who comes up with a plan or something like that? And that's like, yeah.
Speaker: mean, what does he do? Chasing a car. What if I told you what I'm going to do with it? I don't know. and just do things. But that was also a ruse. I mean, the thing is, the best joker runs, the joker is, in his own way, a fucking genius.
Speaker: He is a planner. ah My co-host on Wednesday is Brittany. She says Dan Lee could be the Joker.
Speaker: Well, which version of the Joker? You know, you got he had that storyline where there's like three Jokers in there. oh Give me your best Joker smile.
Speaker: Oh my. Give me chills. Give me chills.
Speaker: Yeah, there you go. there you go britney danley being the joker just for you little buddy and she's like yes give give herself a little white makeup green hair whatever yeah it just depends on your joker the joker's been portrayed so many different ways but in the comics he's not always just a manial like the whole uh death in the family line The whole Death in the Family run.
Speaker: Yeah, it shows just how unhinged he is, like you said. But also, loose. But at the same time, very methodical as far as what he's going do. He doesn't have an endgame.
Speaker: It's just how he gets there is very willy-nilly. He's willing to improvise in the moment. He's the opposite of Batman. He he knows where wants to end up, but he doesn't plan past the fucking next move.
Speaker: Well, I'll do this and then see what happens from there. And I'll just pivot if I have to. yeah i sure we don't give But again, at the same time, I mean, when his plan does work the way it works.
Speaker: Oh, the bow tie is amazing. She says, I'm a fan too. Thank you very much. I'm a fan of the bow tie too. i love Not too many people can pull that off. I
Speaker: um will say, look, I also have this bow tie right now. I'm not putting it on because like my red bow tie. thank very much So the Jared Leto Joker, what's your thought on that one? Did you see the Jared Leto Joker?
Speaker: I fucking hated it. I'll be honest right there. I did not like Jared Leto's Joker. He was more so He was a fucking... i He was straight up gangster. That's what he was.
Speaker: was He didn't have that St. Panache the other two. The worst Joker laugh of all time. Worst Joker laugh of all time. of all time.
Speaker: He sounded like a stoned count from Sesame Street.
Speaker: Yeah, that's true. At any point, you can just hear him go like, ha, ha, ha. That's two laughs.
Speaker: He is so bad at everything. It's been a longstanding opinion of the show. Fuck Jared Leto. He ruins movies.
Speaker: i haven't listened to 30 Seconds to Mars. I don't know how he is in music. I assume he ruins that too.
Speaker: I don't know. I haven't heard that one yet. I haven't heard his music either. 30 Seconds to Mars. That's the band's name. Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah. There is also...
Speaker: since we're talking about Duran Little for a little bit here and and stuff he ruins, Morbius. Yes. I did not like that movie at all. Oh, my God. I know, right?
Speaker: To be fair, it's not his fault how bad the movie was written. True. It's not his fault how bad that movie was written. But anybody could have done that role. Anybody. why do Why do you need a name?
Speaker: It just annoys me. these These named actors want to be in these movies because they know they could be franchises. They want a piece of that. But, man, I want to see the old Star Wars way.
Speaker: Put a bunch of nobodies in the room. See if they got gel. And then put them on screen and make fucking magic. Oh, definitely. mean like For example, look at Luke, Mark Hamill.
Speaker: He was a nobody at one point. That's why I'm joking. yeah exactly he's He is de definitive Joker, in my opinion, with his laugh. you know and It's such a shame that he's no longer going to be i think after the ziian season won't be around. There's no guarantee he won't be around in the DCU.
Speaker: They might end up using him in some kind of an animated fashion. You never know. But he is totally and 100% out of Star Wars. out of star wars he's retiring from luke skywalker completely he will never play the character again that's because he was pissed off though with how they did this character and i think and i agree with him they did his character dirty i'm gonna put it out there right now they did his character dirty because it's like really this is how you're gonna treat a legend
Speaker: oh wow he's force projecting from x number of light years away and he can't Oh, look, he's trying to come up to Kylo Ren and go, please become good.
Speaker: Oh, look, you can't hit me because I'm not actually here. Oh, look, I'm going to pass away now. And really I'm going to die from the exhaustion of projecting myself across the galaxy. Thanks god for liking. So buddy, appreciate you.
Speaker: Always, always a good Friday when I get to see you. um Good, good chance. I'll pop in and catch you guys here in a little bit on your show. or Friends of friends in the network. Lazy and Jedi. Lazy Jedi and the Shaman Show. The Lazy Jedi and Shaman Show.
Speaker: Maybe it's called The Lazy Shaman Show. Swell fellas. Great guys. We're going collab with them, Brittany and I. Do a little comedy talk with those guys. They're excellent, excellent fellas.
Speaker: They do good stuff over there. but We fell completely off the tracks on Brittany, keep your mouth shut. Here's Jedi talking to Brittany. I want to talk to you about your Mount Rushmore.
Speaker: We got one out of you. And I already forgot what the hell it was. Rambo. Rambo. Yes, you want First Blood, the original Rambo movie. so it would be Great action flick.
Speaker: Oh, definitely. I would also go with... That was really a good... good It was a good... the speech on you know, the state of America and things like that and the thoughts on veterans, thoughts on the homeless, all of his personalities.
Speaker: Just curious. So, First Blood, that's on one on yours, and I'll match with you as we go. um Man, action movies from the 80s. I fucking love Escape from New York.
Speaker: Oh, definitely with...
Speaker: Kurt Russell, Lee Van Cleef. Kurt Russell, Lee Van Cleef. um Loomis from ah Halloween was in it too. Donald Pleasence. Oh man. um ah The dude who does the song, oh shit, Chef from South Park. ah He's the bad guy in that movie. The Duke of New York.
Speaker: Yeah, he was the Duke of New York. Isaac Hayes. Oh, okay. oh okay Yeah, I didn't He's the guy that did the music for the movie. One of the blaxploitation films. um Shit.
Speaker: Shaft, John Shaft. He wrote the music for Shaft. chef can you dig it that's the same dude isaac hayes who was a chef on south park the voice of chef on south park also played the duke of new york the bad guy and escaped from new york from 1981 but i'm a huge huge fucking fan as as anybody who watches the show rarely knows huge huge fan of john carpenter's work and that's the john carpenter flick a great action movie dark gritty fun Kurt Russell is just an interesting character.
Speaker: can watch. Kurt Russell plays some really good characters usually. um one kind and One other show actually that I was going to say, it's on my Mount Rushmore, is, and I don't know if you would consider it an action movie, but I do, it is Big Trouble in Little China.
Speaker: I love that movie. yeah, it's an action movie. How could you call that an action movie? It's action adventure at its fucking finest. Jack Burton is a beast. Oh, yeah, and the first part. And that's another John Carpenter movie. Excellent choice, my friend. Thank you. Did you know that a John Carpenter movie?
Speaker: Oh, yeah, I didn't. I knew that part right there. I was actually waiting. John Carpenter makes a movie. Well, I heard that they also wanted to make a part two, though, to it. And I have no reason why they didn't.
Speaker: But I heard they wanted to make a sequel.
Speaker: Well, Brittany, we're talking about a movie.
Speaker: They didn't love the see the the way that it was going. It had to be just right for them to bring it in. Number two on my Mount Rushmore 1980s action movies.
Speaker: Man. I'm going with Lethal Weapon. That would be number three of mine. You're always showing your age. We're talking about 80s action movies, you jackass. That's the entire concept. 80s action movies.
Speaker: We know what you're doing right now. She's she's my co-host on Wednesday. She knows what I'm doing. I'm just egging her on.
Speaker: She was in here. She'd say, shut the fuck up. I'll put you on the spot. You got two down. Die Hard, you mentioned it earlier. i don't know if it's on your list.
Speaker: Oh, yeah, that's on my list, too. But like said, Lethal Weapons, that's on my list as well. like you know For me, I like that one. le weaponworth The original Lethal
Speaker: Weapon. Yeah. That's a good call. How about the original Raiders of the Lost Ark? That's action at its finest.
Speaker: Oh, I love that movie. but it's that um nice things Really? Not on my route rush mark, no. sure far in One of the most one of the best in my opinion one of the best action adventures that's ever been made steven spielberg knows how to make a good movie you know story structure and just some of the scenes in that movie are iconic as fuck like the fight as the plane's got just the one rotor going spins around and shoots the big old german guy up but how about the uh the guy swinging the good co-pension guitar but and he pulls his guns out and shoot do you know that was ad-lib that was the way this was supposed to go
Speaker: oh, I heard about that because he was apparently sick that day. He had the flu like a motherfucker. Dehydrated. Didn't want to be in the sun anymore. He's like, fuck it.
Speaker: Turned around and went to his trailer. He was done for the day. he did He did that and that ended up being the take they kept.
Speaker: Yeah, that was one of my favorite moments right there. It's like, you know, I always thought that wasn't before I learned the story or reason why that happened for it. i always thought it was the best part of the film. It's like,
Speaker: This is exactly what it is. Indy has a gun. The guy has a sword. Who's going to win? i don't know. Maybe the guy with the gun.
Speaker: It just depends on who's holding that sword. If it's the Highlander.
Speaker: True, but better be able shoot his head off with that gun. Good point. Well, even if he does shoot him, though, the Highlander still, a you know, he Dies for a little bit, but it takes a bit for to come back.
Speaker: So if Indy was smart, he'd be like, okay, he's dead. I'm running away.
Speaker: He sees him again. Hopefully Indy gets wise at that point and goes, okay, apparently I shoot you in the head. You come back. I got to figure out a different way. Maybe they can do like a scene with the plane.
Speaker: Indy's like, okay, well, shooting in the didn't work.
Speaker: yeah That's right. Yeah, don't know Indiana Jones is Batman-esque with his prep time.
Speaker: Batman can pull it off. I think Indiana Jones, he's dying in the world of violence. I'm sorry, Indiana. Dr. Jones is not getting there. No time for love, Dr. Jones. is's He's going to lose his head while he's banging somebody's daughter.
Speaker: True. And the best part is that whole, and in and I know, I heard it before too, about how Indiana Jones was pointless in the movie. He was absolutely pointless because the whole movie would have ended up the exact same way.
Speaker: The Nazis would have gone the arc. That's a great way. Right. don't wait All he did was help them along. if if they If they didn't have tabs on him or whatever and catch up with what he was doing, they were they were screwed.
Speaker: He helped them all die. which ended up being the the only real agency he had in the movie by accidentally getting caught. And therefore they all died because of it. Exactly. But not that too, at least he was there. He knew where the, where the arc was.
Speaker: He's like, Oh yeah, by the way, all the Nazis killed themselves. I didn't have the to be here, but here's where the arc is, by the way. You know, that's that's the only point he's going to record it.
Speaker: But yeah, no, it's like... Well, what do you got for your fourth? Have you come up with the fourth? There are so many great 80s movies, man. Yeah, Die Hard. Die Hard is my fourth. Die Hard.
Speaker: That's a great movie. John McClane? That is a great movie. okay I mean, that's an epitome of what happens when you put a guy... Even they say it in the show, he's in wrong place, wrong time,
Speaker: you know He is the average Joe, pretty much, who's a cop, yes. But he's over his head. And they show it, too. like That's one of the things I liked about that movie. is like He was over his head.
Speaker: Oh, yeah. That's what love about movies. This is going to be a weird one. My fourth one.
Speaker: Definitely an action movie. More than anything else coming of age movie though. But some of the best action, some of the best movie music, just a great top to bottom tale.
Speaker: The fucking Goonies.
Speaker: I love that movie too. Opens up with the great chase scene, right? The Fratellis opens up with chase scene and you get to see all the different Goonies in their everyday activities and stuff.
Speaker: Chunks smears a piece of stuff. Ah, shit. Great movie. good Good action. Fun to watch. Richard Donner, right? I think that's a Richard Donner movie.
Speaker: I think so, yeah. And it was written by Chris Columbus. Yeah. Yeah, it was a great movie, too. And there's also the you get to see a young Thanos at the time. here Yeah, man. Yes, yes, yes.
Speaker: Dude, I don't know what happened to that dude, but he kind of disappeared for years and years and years. Then he just came out of nowhere again. went from Grant to nothing. And then suddenly came back and was just this titan of an actor in a ton of of fucking amazing movies.
Speaker: Yeah, and then he played in... Dude, he was amazing. if I think what movie did I see him in that that I've ever seen him again for a long time? It was... oh wait. It was Men in Black 3.
Speaker: Oh, I forgot about about that.
Speaker: Tommy Lee Jones, ah you yeah. He played the younger version of him. Which, actually, i would say, like he actually did. it was convincing, actually. I would say like he does kind of remind me of a younger Tommy Lee Jones.
Speaker: So I think they did a really good pick on that one.
Speaker: And a third movie is usually trash. Usually might be a bit much, but often. Often. Sometimes the second one and the third one are just as good, sometimes better.
Speaker: Like John Wick, for what it is, they're ridiculous goddamn action movies. They're throwbacks to the Rambo days. They're throwbacks to the Schwarzenegger days. Ridiculous action, just for action's sake.
Speaker: And they're fun to watch. and It's a guilty pleasure. They're fun to watch. They're not great cinema, but they're fun to watch. Well, definitely. I mean, that's one of the things I like about John Wick.
Speaker: You know, what I saw all the John Wick movies, and i think each one, and my personal opinion, got better as time went on, too. You know, like, they showed, you know, plus, too, when you launch watch the movies, he is almost like picking up from the last one. He still hasn't had time to rest and recuperate yet.
Speaker: So... That really shows him. I do like stuff like that. right The first movie I can remember that did that was Halloween 2. John Carpenter ended it, and then they picked up the next movie right at the end of the movie.
Speaker: Like, literally. He looks over the balcony, imprint there, but no body, and they we're off and running from the second we just started the last movie. I thought that was pretty cool.
Speaker: But yeah, there's so many great movies to choose from. That's my last choice. The Goonies. Still more of a coming of age story than anything else. But you can't deny it's an action movie. And they're on an adventure. Action adventure, right?
Speaker: I like the scene where they're in the sewers or underneath the sewers and they're playing with the pipes. The guy's like... I can't... it
Speaker: Mikey's been through here all right. Chunk leaves the bad guys sooner afterwards. Yep. I also like the fact, what it, like the, who's that guy? Sloth.
Speaker: Sloth, yeah. I like the scene. Played by Joe Matusak. Is it Joe Matusak?
Speaker: yeah I like the fact that Sloth and Chunk actually got, or became like good friends as well. Like, oh, that's cool. It's like. Both outcasts in their own way. Sort of like a hero's journey.
Speaker: Yeah. As an author, I know you're thinking of a hero's journey. Oh, I definitely, I know hero's journey. Yeah, definitely. Because there is a couple of movies, out shows out there and couple books that represent that very well.
Speaker: One of the more obvious ones that most people would look at is Lord of the Rings. Because, you know, they have a that to go on a journey to dispose of a ring. and you know But another movie, another TV show that they have to do.
Speaker: Yeah, Star Wars. I see a movie like that. Star Wars, yeah, yeah. It was exactly the hero's journey. the Lucas wrote it based on the book, The Hero's Journey.
Speaker: Yeah, and actually was going to say, and it's actually kind of funny, think about this way, don't know if you're going watch the Harry Potter movies differently, but if you think about it, Harry Potter is Star Wars, but with little magic ones.
Speaker: Everything is Star Wars. There's no such thing as a new story. Every story has been told. The only thing you can do is change the way you tell it. Or change the way it ends.
Speaker: Think about it. Every story has been told already. Well, yeah, you're running. You tell. i scar I don't know. I think, you know, Michael, you got to get my book. Then if you think every story has been told, you know, it's like, I'm pretty sure my novel is a little bit more, different type story.
Speaker: Well, what we'll have to do is trade addresses. I'm to send you one of my shirts with my signature on it. Because if there's nothing I can do, it's take a $20 item, put my name on it, and make it a $0 item.
Speaker: Sounds good. Your name probably adds value to this shit. Your name probably adds value to this shit. Mine takes it right out. don't know. I did that for a little bit. If you send me the first book of your shoes, I'd be more than happy to read it.
Speaker: More than happy to read it.
Speaker: I'll definitely do that then. And then I'll sing the praises. I'll bring my daughter on to it. if it's good i'm I'm sure it'll be good. i I like the way you think. I like the way you talk. We've talked a lot. This is not the first time we've met everyone. We got rapport already, if you notice.
Speaker: Yeah, there's only so many tunes you can make. Only so many guitar riffs that there are. Man, we were just listening to a song from ah Blue October. You remember the band Blue October? Well, I'm telling I don't know what the name of the song was, but it was a trivia last night.
Speaker: Brittany's a fan of the Dan.
Speaker: um hi Thank you. And don't worry, this is not alcohol. This is actually it's a... tank Tang? Like the astronauts? but Tang.
Speaker: What?
Speaker: Dan likes that tang. Anyway, there's this Blue October song on at at the trivia show. And there's a friend of mine, he hosts, I host trivia as well. I like to play trivia almost as much as I like to host it.
Speaker: But he supports my night. I get one support him as much as I can. I usually play pool on Thursdays. Happened to be sitting last night, didn't have to play pool. So I said, let's go play Dave's trivia.
Speaker: Well, they're playing this Blue October song. and I'm telling you right now, I can hear that a total riff that is almost note for note identical to what they play in um the Grateful Dead's song It's their only fucking top 10 hit, actually.
Speaker: Touch of Grey. ill take that out
Speaker: Well, yeah, the band's got Blue October. And it was i they were good, but I totally caught that. I'm like, wait a minute. That's Touch of Grey.
Speaker: So I don't think it was done necessarily on purpose. i don't know how how people do the music or whatever, but Just like there are certain similar something Brittany and i talk about a lot of Wednesdays. There are similar premises in jokes.
Speaker: It's just the way you the way you deliver the joke. the way Everything else works around is what you either are or are not stealing. i mean, you can't tell the same joke the same way as someone else. That is obviously theft. But if it just so happens to be a fluky weird thing,
Speaker: You have the same thought they did. Neither one of you ever heard each other before. and Then you have almost an identical word for word joke. It does happen. But it's super fucking rare.
Speaker: Put 100 Monkeys into the room. Give them all the typewriter. bet you're going to get Shakespeare. Is that what they said?
Speaker: True.
Speaker: Or no, not Shakespeare. It was... What was that word called?
Speaker: Something about war. War and peace. hundred monkeys Oh, you'll get War and Peace? Yeah, 100 Monkeys in would give me War and Peace. I don't remember how much they spent on it, but there was an experiment done.
Speaker: They gave some monkeys a typewriter. They had it for three years. And all they managed to do was type in three years five words. Nothing of coherence.
Speaker: And they ate the the keys off of it a bunch of fucking times.
Speaker: I'm pretty sure that I know what the five words are. don't know how much it's going. It's a million, but I don't remember how much.
Speaker: Some universities got more money than brain. I'm pretty sure I know what the monkeys wrote, though. Those five words in three years. Pretty sure it's like, give us bananas, bitch. Now.
Speaker: Something like that. Yeah, they think of their nose in their stomachs.
Speaker: like as they turned to their nose and we start
Speaker: ah any Any honorable mention for an 80s action movie on your top top four? I usually do an honorable mention on the... yeah Well, one of the honorable mentions I'll give, actually, and i don't and I think it's an action movie, would be Karate Kid.
Speaker: That was a good one. Action and coming of age. Action and coming of age. same Same thing as the other. Yeah.
Speaker: I like that movie. The second Conan movie, Conan the Destroyer. Conan Barbarian was the first one. Conan the Destroyer. That was great. but I don't know if it's just fantasy.
Speaker: That's another one. It crosses genres. but Most fantasies are action movies too if you think about it. yeah i think like Does that count as an action movie? I think when get down to nitty-gritty of it, like a lot of movies, be it sci-fi, be it fantasy or horror movies,
Speaker: A lot of them have a lot of action and some of them and a bigger door of them are action movies. mean, when you get down to the whole thing of it, you know, because like you said, we talked about the coming of age story for Goonies.
Speaker: That was a coming of age and an action movie. You're looking at Star Wars. and the so Rich Long. Hmm? What's Red Dawn?
Speaker: i didn't hear you. what is red dawn classify that one
Speaker: but' so i'll say suspense if america quickly red dawn with patrick swayze
Speaker: shit. Charlie Sheen was in it. um See Thomas Howell. Wolverines. Wolverines.
Speaker: The Russians, the the Russians, Central Americans, ah they they teamed up together and came in and started ah attacking on two fronts. You don't remember this?
Speaker: No, I don't think I said. I'll tell you the truth. i don't think I what? No, I don't think I've seen that movie. We made it I think it was ah Liam Hemworth.
Speaker: Ah, my fucking God. Liam and Chris Hemworth. I think we're both in it. Okay. no i think Oh, wait. Which movie was I thinking about? There was another movie called Red Something.
Speaker: And it sounded like Red Dawn. Red Heat with Arnold Schwarzenegger? Oh, maybe that's what i was thinking of.
Speaker: That was not a good movie at all. No. They remade it in 2012. Here's the... Oh,
Speaker: ah okay. I think I see... never saw that one? No, never seen that one, no. It's got Leah Thompson and Nobody Puts a Baby in the Corner, Jennifer Grey.
Speaker: Jennifer Grey... Yeah, dude. And that's another one on my, ah you know, honorable mentions list and uh young guns
Speaker: what a fun movie emilio estervez plays uh billy the kid okay you've seen young guns ah why i can't remember though that's a problem right there i can't remember though that's a problem right there ice yeah I think I've seen it once and that was it.
Speaker: Really? Yeah. That's right. drew dance with man There are some movies.
Speaker: There are some movies that I watched. We're talking about 80s action movies, not action movies in general. And the Fast and the Furious series are exactly what's wrong with movies in America today.
Speaker: You should not watch those movies. Don't pet put any of your money into those goddamn terrible terrible terrible franchises vote with your dollar They'll keep making movies like that as you keep but we're going to watch them
Speaker: I Have I have some strong feelings about fucking fast and furious franchise if you haven't noticed So basically what you're saying is okay, do not bring up fast and furious with Michael got it Yeah. That was very special trash. Absolute dribble. Absolute dribble.
Speaker: ye Well, actually, this might actually make you tickle pink probably. The last Fast and Furious movie that's supposed to be part two to the last one was apparently was canceled.
Speaker: Or they shelved it. Good. And they don't know when they're going to do it, if they're ever going to bring it out.
Speaker: Let's hope it's never.
Speaker: No time I see the first star at night, I'm wishing for that. you know what? Here's the thing, Michael. On one side, i agree with you.
Speaker: But on the other side, my OCD goes, they have to fucking finish it. It's kind of like the Hellboy movies. It was finished after the second or third I'm telling They just kept making them because people kept watching them.
Speaker: No, i i know like so I agree with you on that one. But since they had like a part one and they said there's going to a part two, if they don't make the part two, that's kind of like a shit on me because like, what's going on? It's kind like with the Halboy movies, you know? They had Halboy, Halboy 2, the Golden Armies, and that was it. And I'm like, there's supposed to be a third one.
Speaker: Yeah, Golden Armies didn't perform well enough. The budget was much higher. It did not perform well enough. They canceled the rest. Yeah, and it's like... Bron Perlman was bummed out. He loved playing Hellboy.
Speaker: Then they remade Hellboy again, brought in a new Hellboy. Nobody liked the guy. Then they did again with Hopper from Stranger Things. yeah Did he get one or two movies? Just the one?
Speaker: The one. It was The Crooked Man. i seen i I started watching it, and I was like, no, this is stupid. I turned it off. I've seen the... Wait a minute. I got who i thought this was like the original Witch or something like that.
Speaker: No, no, that was David Harbour. Or Harbour? What's his name? That's what I'm talking about. yeah Oh, yeah, yeah. David Harbour. David Harbour. Yeah. He got one movie only or two?
Speaker: One. When they did the remakes of Halibar movies, each actor who did them only got one movie each. Ron Perlman. After the Ron Perlman.
Speaker: yeah Yeah. The fans tell told everybody. Don't go boycott it. If they don't bring Ron Perlman back, Ron Perlman is Hellboy. don't bring Ron Perlman back, don't go watch it. Don't go watch it unless they bring Ron Perlman back.
Speaker: And a lot of people went with that. Well, yeah, because it's Ron Perlman movie for Hellboy. It's been ah come a ah cult classic.
Speaker: Brittany thinks that David Harper, I'm sorry, David Harper is hot. You're weird, Brittany. I don't know.
Speaker: It's a I can't speak on um one to the heart wine game
Speaker: True. But yeah, no, I think, you know, when it comes to Halibor, I think they really do need to give Galtomero's, you know, third Halibor movie.
Speaker: My personal opinion, right there. You know, because that. they ever been made The first two. The first two. The same director. Yeah. Was it the same director?
Speaker: Yeah, Guilherme Del Toro. Guilherme Del Toro, yes it was. Yeah, and he wanted to make a third one. He actually had a vision of what the third one was supposed to be.
Speaker: And like I said, he... what And I remember them making a, you know, they're doing like a whole thing saying like they want to make a third one. Raul Perman even tweeted that like, You better hurry up before I get too old for this shit.
Speaker: Pulling the whole Danny Glover card right there. and I think- Yeah, he's always too old for this shit. He's never not too old for this shit. Exactly. And honestly though too, like, yo, I'll say that when it comes to action movies then and now, um both the Hellboy movies with Ron Perlman,
Speaker: Britney said my ex-fiance and I used to watch Stranger Things together and he'd be all jealous and say, well, he's dead. think At the end of the last season, spoiler alert, if you haven't watched yet, it appears Hopper might be dead.
Speaker: But obviously he isn't because he's in the previews for the new season. if you're going to end it with a cliffhanger like that, don't put it in the previews for the season. Kind of ends the fucking cliffhanger for you.
Speaker: Oh, hey, spoiler alert. Yeah. Oh, I hate when they do that. When they introduce it, it was like, oh, look, new season. Oh, this is what's going on. Hey, I thought that guy died. i guess he came back.
Speaker: It's kind of like with the... No, I swear to Brittany. Yeah, and that's okay. i don't want you I never watched the Stranger Things, to tell you the truth. I haven't watched it at all. I liked it a lot.
Speaker: But it's also based in Ohio. I love Ohio stories. I'm i'm a Buckeye. Fair enough. Don't hold it against me.
Speaker: Not fair enough. It's kind of like how like if I ever see a movie and I find out it's made here in my hometown, it's like, okay, I'm watch it. It might be bad, but I'm going to watch it.
Speaker: um remember Actually, what was it? Regina's Saskatchewan, right? Yeah. Regina's Saskatchewan. Regina rhymes with fun.
Speaker: Deadpool. Deadpool. Yes, Deadpool. All of Deadpool. Mm-hmm. That's one little fact right there. I love it. And I think when... Who made Deadpool?
Speaker: I don't think it was... Stanley, was it? I don't think he was the original creator for Deadpool. Well, Stanley did not create Deadpool, no. I think that as Deadpool was created by... I want to say Todd McFarlane. I could be wrong.
Speaker: No, I don't think I was him. I'll look it up now. But... He was a writer and artist for Marvel before he went out on his own and found an image. Yeah.
Speaker: Rob Liefeld, my bad. And Fabian Nisenza. Yeah, Rob Liefeld wrote him and Nisenza drew him.
Speaker: Yeah. I think when they made him, I think they thought Regina, Saskatchewan was really a meagreous town or city. And they're like, yeah, we'll pick this town for Deadpool's origin story. It's like, I'm meagreous city. Yeah, I live here, so I'm meagreous me.
Speaker: You live in Regina? Yeah. Fun fact, actually. Get the fuck out of here. No, I live in Regina, Saskatchewan. I really didn't know that.
Speaker: yeah I knew you lived in Saskatchewan. That sounds like his Regina is in Saskatchewan. I thought it was, but I wasn't sure. yeah Well, fun fact, actually. Wow. Here's a fun fact. This actually is my spiritual home, too, because I think I told you before, I am indigenous, First Nations, and my ancestors actually used to, this was their stomping ground before it was became a city.
Speaker: So this literally is my ancestral home. Huh, interesting. Yep. Very cool. And then we have like a place, of course, I think it was the man largest man-made lake in Canada or Saskatchewan.
Speaker: No, think it was in Canada, called Wascana, Wascana Lake. That actually was named after an indigenous word called, I can't pronounce it. I'm indigenous. I can't pronounce the the indigenous Cree words.
Speaker: But either way, it stands for bone pile.
Speaker: Because that's where the indigenous... Yeah, that's where they used to put the... The indigenous used to put the bones of the hunt that they didn't use until people came over and started overhunting the buffaloes. And then they went, okay, we're going put them over there anyways. But that's a totally different subject matter.
Speaker: But yeah, no, it's...
Speaker: ah but yeah no it's ah No, I haven't. Interesting, but it is. Yeah. Oh, yeah. it's like Yeah, I mean, it like and that's an action movie from the 80s, Brittany. We're not getting off track tonight.
Speaker: Not that far. You're not enrolling the train.
Speaker: Yes. She brought that up on another show. She knows I don't like that fucking movie. I've never seen it. I don't want to see it. The thought of it is terrifying. She said, fine. i heard the movie myself, but I was like, man I'm not watching it.
Speaker: F that shit. But no, yeah thank you. But like I said, though you know they don't make good action movies like they used to except for like I said, look John Wick movies, Del Toro's, Howlboy. You that know, you got to admit, they're terrible.
Speaker: They're terrible because they're so ridiculously unrealistic. All these crazy good killers. yet they can't pull off a headshot. All he needs is to hit him in a headshot.
Speaker: And the ballistic suit, get out of here with that. That is so retarded. That's the dumbest fucking thing I've ever heard. And it's so unrealistic.
Speaker: But they're getting pleasure of fun movies to watch. They're fun.
Speaker: exactly. That's right, Britt. That's all it takes. Just one.
Speaker: well exactly
Speaker: like that's right bre that's all takes just one
Speaker: and plus also too i would have to say like i actually felt bad for the dog i mean i know the dog's okay in real life but still in the movie it's like it's a puppy i mean i actually felt which pain at that time like yeah you give me a fucking gun i'm gonna go ballistic on that one too i'll be dead within the first two seconds but i go ballistic too i'm like i'm gonna go kill you Bam. Okay, I'm dead. But I don't care. I was trying avenge the puppy.
Speaker: Yeah. The lowest thing you can do, hurt a domestic animal or a goddamn kid. I mean, they're defenseless. Get out of here with that shit. It's one thing if you're being attacked by a little Lottweiler or something like that or a giant fucking vicious animal.
Speaker: Then, yeah, maybe then you shoot the dog. But Jesus strikes me. It was a pupper. Some of the pupperonies. Scumbag.
Speaker: I'm glad they did this. I'm glad they cut his dick off in Westeros after that. Sons of bitches. Right? That's the guy who took his car, right? there was Wasn't it the guy who guy from Game of Thrones gets his dick cut
Speaker: off. I can't remember what his name was, but think I know you're talking about, too. He played... Leon warm leon Joy something. Yeah, because he was... He played the son of the... Yeah. And I can't remember his name. Yep, yep. He was one of the dogs.
Speaker: Yeah. I just remember... I just remember John... I can't pronounce his damn name either. John... the gri the dress app He played Luigi in freaking Super Mario Brothers movie.
Speaker: John Leguizamo. Yeah, there we go. that um if you know I liked his role in the movie because I like the fact that you know he did say, he punched the kid that hit him in the face. I'm like, yes, he avenged the dog for John Wick.
Speaker: I punched him in the face. a Good job. yeah but And then he's you know he gets questioned by the dad, like, why did you punch my son on his face? He's like, he's still Johnny Wicks' car. And he's like, oh.
Speaker: yeah He's like, okay, it's understandable. I think that was one of my favorite moments, though, was when he did do that. I'm like, oh okay, good. The kid deserved it. He deserved a lot more than that, but still.
Speaker: Who played the kid's father? Was that Peter Stomari?
Speaker: I'll look out this time. and then was I think it was Peter Storamari.
Speaker: It's like, the opposite, of like not Pope, Rick. Where the hell is John Pope, anyway?
Speaker: John
Speaker: Rick Storamari. Alfie Allen played the son. Oh, yeah, yeah, Michael Nickvist.
Speaker: Wow. um That's right. I'm probably butchering that. That's right. I think it was John Wick 3 or John Wick 4. That's one Peter Stomari's in. Yeah.
Speaker: He played the Dirtbag movie director at 8mm that did the stuff films. He was the, he was a Carl Hunkus in the big Lebowski.
Speaker: My Russian were actors.
Speaker: actors We're doing action movies. They're not, they're not the big actors.
Speaker: um so then I'm about to let Dan off the hook. I think we've got, Oh, I was going I think when it comes to action movies too, like when it comes to actors, I can combine the two, actually, that I can think of when it comes to action movies and 80s action movies back then.
Speaker: And that was Bruce Willis. Was he acting or just in the movies?
Speaker: Both. you know, he's an actor and in the movies, Bruce Willis. Oh, he was in a bunch of movies. Yeah, and you know, and it when it like then, Die Hard Because I love that movie. you know he played a He played the role so well.
Speaker: It's like... He started off as a comedic. Hmm? He started off as a comedic actor. Yeah. yeah cause i What was it one movie he would thought the show he was in? But yet he did start off as comedic actor. But when he got into acting... Moonlighting.
Speaker: Yeah, Moonlighting. That's what it was. Wasn't it a TV series? Yes. Yeah. And then they Hudson Hawk. Yep. That was a fun movie.
Speaker: He did, oh my God, Blind Date. One of the best roles he ever had, in my opinion. He's so great in Blind Date. John Larroquette as the jealous ex-boyfriend.
Speaker: And Kim Basinger. She was a fox back in the day. But that was, oh shit, bleak Blake Edwards. Blake Edwards movie. Everything Blake Edwards did, I thought was a great movie.
Speaker: Mm-hmm. True. That was Bruce Willis. In my opinion, that's one his absolute finest. egg Well, that's my yeah i serious, right? Because I think, you know Mercury Rising, that was another good movie he was in.
Speaker: you Wasn't that Morgan Freeman in his first villain role? Wasn't that Morgan Freeman played the villain? Yeah, I believe so, yeah. Yeah, because that was... His first bad guy, I can recall.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah, because I think, yeah, that was the first time you saw Morgan Freeman. And I think that was pre-glove era for him, too. Did you ever notice that Morgan Freeman, they never really show his hand as much when he does acting?
Speaker: And when he's out on red carpet, he's usually wearing a glove.
Speaker: i never noticed. Yeah, well, that's because I think, if remember correctly, he's actually losing pigment in his one hand. Oh, no idea. But I think, by like said, back then, he didn't have that worry. But I think as he's getting older, he's starting to show a little bit. So next thing you see him on, like, red carpet or anything like that, pay attention to his hand.
Speaker: like but He only had one glove on. He might have two gloves on now, but I think he only has one glove on now.
Speaker: Yeah, it's interesting. Fun fact. Tell my audience where, again, they can find you, Dan. Oh, yes. You can find... you what For my book? Or where they can find me personally?
Speaker: For your book. For your book to find you. If you want people to. For your art. Plug. I hate using the phrase, but I love to say it. Plug yourself, Dan. ah Okay, fair enough. You can find me on TikTok. You usually to go live every afternoon. 1 one p m GMC negative six time, which is Central Standard Time Sketch one.
Speaker: This is a fun fact about that. You can find my book on Amazon. You can find the first book called Universal Chronicles Extermination out on Amazon. it is available on both hardcover, softcover, and Kindle.
Speaker: And you can find my second book, which comes out on Sunday, November 16th, called Universal Chronicles Eclipse. It will be available on hardcover, softcover, and Kindle as well.
Speaker: And if you want to see my art, you have to find me on Redbubble or Fourth Wall, which I can't remember what I named myself. So I'm a terrible PR person for that.
Speaker: It's like, what's your website called? I can't remember. I think that's what I should call myself. Send it to you and then you can send it to me and I'll put it in the comments below after the fact.
Speaker: sounds good Thanks for coming on, Dan. I appreciate you talking with me. Hopefully you'll come back and talk to me again. if I can get you to come on a second time, we're going to talk about science fiction movies. As a science fiction author author, I really want to hear your take on some of the stuff I love.
Speaker: Fair enough. and right let yeah and Hopefully next time I won't start yawning like there's no tomorrow. ah exactly It's all good. And as always, please like, share, and subscribe. Like it and share it and subscribe to it if you loved it.
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