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Wally and Johonny talking about them new aged dinos AKA reptiles
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Introduction to the Show
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Music
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Welcome everybody to another edition of Cold-Blooded Conversations. How's everybody doing tonight? Zempheus, thanks for jumping in the chat again, man. Dude, you're killing it this week, buddy. how you I seen the you save some of that smoked pork for us, bud.
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Welcome to, like I said, another edition of Cold-Blooded Conversations. I'm your host, Wally, and my co-host, Johnny Bongs. then How's everybody doing tonight? Johnny, how you doing tonight, bud?
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Doing good, brother. It's a busy day, and I got myself geared up for the night. Heck yeah. have Let's do it.
Meet Sherbert the Bearded Dragon
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Well, first off, ah got a new addition to the family I wanted to introduce. I introduced him to Johnny and backstage, everybody that was seeing the panel Saturday night for Nonsensical.
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This is my new bearded dragon. Welcome to the family. This is Sherbert. Figured I'd show you guys tonight to make it an official since it is Cold-Blooded Conversations. He's my newest rescue beardy.
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So... But yeah, my youngest ended up naming Sherbert. So now we got we got the triple S's. We got Sherbert, Special Ed, and Skittles. So all three of my bearded dragons is an S. Right on.
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Yeah, tonight I just kind of want to chit-chat about
Thoughts on the New Anaconda Movie
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different things. um This morning when we were on your your channel talking about movies, Haas brought up about that new Anaconda movie with Jack Black and stuff in it.
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I seen the preview for it, and it's more of a stand-up slapstick kind of comedy movie it looks like with a little bit of twist of from what preview that I was able to see.
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it it looks interesting, but to me, It's going to be kind of a slap in the face, like i said, about the main Anaconda movie, you know. The original.
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I always thought the Anaconda movies were meant to be like a gritty horror.
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That's what I thought.
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But yeah, this one this one's one of those, like he said, I mean, I watched it. They had like two different ones and it was, yeah, it's it's typical Jack Black kind of Action slash more comedy to it. I mean it looks decent. I'll watch it, but it's just still don't call it anaconda Yeah, pretty much as emphyse. You're right anaconda crossed with tropic thunder that That's that is a prime example of what this is gonna be what it looks like. It's gonna be um But yeah, I just I just wanted to bring that up. Well, like i said to introduce the new
Leopard Gecko Morphs Exploration
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guy. Hey, what?
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Hey up, dude. What's happening? Got buddy of yours from ah over off for your channel. Johnny checking out, man. Hell yeah. look out there. What's up?
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I didn't see you, brother.
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So, yeah. um But, yeah. I want to get that. Johnny, you got anything you want to got to share or anything? I'm still getting some of my notes together.
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you've been a then You got any more stuff you want to share on that morph stuff like you did with some more info on those leopard gecko morphs and everything like you were talking? ah Still, i do. Let me pull up my notes here real quick.
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Go for it, buddy. That's what we're here to do, man. We're here to have topics of animals and everything else. And I know you wanted to talk a little more in detail about the the leopard geckos and stuff, since that's more of your specialty.
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um The floor is yours, man. Have at it. It's all you.
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do The yeah ones that I had, I think I explained a little bit. They're kind of run-of-the-mill yellows, a little bit of purple, some blacks in them.
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um Some of the newer morphs I got out there, it's... it's It's funny how they they've done this in such a way where it retained a lot of those recessive genes, but they're really finding some interesting ways to work with that, man.
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Yeah, there there's all kinds. Yeah, here, going to pull this up real quick. Zinthia's just, they're having real high winds. he he he ah He got himself a piss shower.
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Hmm. ah Hey, what's up, James? oh but yeah But yeah, they ah they're you're right. There's a there's a mon monster different kinds out there, man.
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what's some of the What's some of the favorites of yours? So, let's
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see. You know, the thing is, there's one that I've been looking around for a name for. and haven't but I haven't found a name for it yet, but I was able to get it to happen once in the whole time I've been working with leopard geckos. And it was a that tinge purple that they get as an accent.
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This was all different shades of that. Really? Yeah. Whereas usually it's a secondary on a lot of um on a lot of them.
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Right. even noticeable at all. This was, yeah, this had a lot. um I believe it was called a pastel.
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Like yeah pastal pastel style? Yeah. Yeah, because I know most of your
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morphs that they're out there that you see that are real popular. They're more of like your leopards snow leopard colors, the whites with all the black, or their the tangerine orange, like you said. It's all orange with a little bit of purple and blue.
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but yeah. yeah there's Yeah, i I'm going to have to look into that and check that out, especially if it's got more of the purple haze and stuff. So you figure that'd be kind of popular, having that kind of colors to it.
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Oh, yeah, indeed. who Once again, I don't ever saw like little tiny recesses of that, if if anything. Nice. um Called a lavender facial lettuce.
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Really? Yes, sir. Nice. Nice.
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Yeah, we know, Zempheus, you like the purple haze, you dork. Oh. wrong kind of We're not talking that haze on here, bud. That's for another conversation. Yeah.
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yeah But yeah, I mean, that there's, yeah, those are like the ones I named off are the most common that most people do. um theyre There's an Arctic, like an Arctic leopard and gecko that they have. And I mean, the thing's pretty much almost white, except it's got the hints of the light blue and stuff on it and everything else too. So, I mean, it's kind of kind of neat to see that.
Exotic Ball Python Features
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Yes, sir.
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Then ah the other day, was watching one of my other channels that I follow that breeds bald pythons. They had one that was damn near as bright as orange as a safety cone.
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Yeah. Yeah, it was it was pretty neat. it It's an orange dream sickle, but it had a ah desert ghost in it, so it Made that orange kind of a lighter lighter color on it. Oh, yeah. It was frickin'. And there's like four other genes inside the snake that the guy I was watching. It's a it's a really high-end snake, but the main thing focus was the the orange dream. and that It's a dream sickle, as they call it, and the desert ghost mixed together, and it was pretty badass.
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Beautiful. Oh, yeah. Yep. So, yeah, that's definitely different. um Just like beardies, they're getting to where they're either no scales, they're leatherbacks, they're bright orange.
Bearded Dragon Morphs
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Now they've got ones, they call them the red monsters. They're literally the color of lava. They're that red. Dude, they're they're sick. and Bearded dread?
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Yes. Yep. Yeah, it's called a red monster.
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Huh. Yeah, you'll have to check it out sometime. They're cool. They're they're theirre lava their lava red, and some of them are the lava red bottoms and almost all black on top. they're They're pretty badass, dude. My goodness. Thing's beautiful, brother.
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Mostly red with some accents and some black in there. Oh, yeah.
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See, that's one thing that i'm I'm starting to learn about is the, I didn't notice there were as many.
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Xenthius. I had one gene in me and was the doctor's name that's still. Hey, God. Yeah, there's, there as you were saying, go ahead.
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but i just didn't know that bearded dragons got that expressive with their gene color. Yeah. Well, that's the thing, man, where we've been talking the more throughout the reptile community.
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People's been working all these years with the certain animals that they've they've expanded out getting these different genes. It's the sad part is is some of them, if they can't get the newer bloodline, like having heads.
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So it's got some of this other style gene in it. You're getting all deformed, you know, kind of whacked out. animals that's going eventually have deformities.
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um bean
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whether but yeah they But they sit there and they work. They've been working on these, getting them to where they're creating these high-end animals. Most common, though, has always been in the by the ball python game. I mean, that's...
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where the bread and butter of all your multi-genes. Now they're going into the sand boas. They're going into the boa constrictors, ah Burmese, retics.
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Hell, there's a lady that I follow. She's big into it. She actually has an albino anaconda. Yeah. She spent the last 15 years
Albino Anaconda Breeding Success
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going through to create this.
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this albino dude. It's, it's fricking gorgeous. So sounds beautiful. Yeah. She goes around all the big major shows that like at 10 Lee and everything else and takes it, usually takes it with her and shows on display, man. It's cool to see, actually see an anaconda. That's the albino, the yellow and white like that.
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Right. I thought they only came in the green and black. Yeah. Nope. She's been working. She worked her way with one other anaconda breeder. They did a basically a breeding breeding loan with each other and ended up creating. I think they got four out of all the eggs out of the all the eggs and everything else. They got four of them. She got two and he got two out of the ordeal. And then the the others are all hit for albino.
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So it's pretty cool. Oh my goodness. I remember when albino was like the sought after in the ball python game because of how it was the yellow red eyes and everything else. And now now everything's getting either really bright colored or or you got the exantic line, which is your black and basically your black and white. those are pretty so Those are pretty sweet. But yeah, it's just the Morse in the reptile game has come a long way. I mean, it's actually...
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a produced, there's a gene now in the most, of the majority of these animals that it produces it. Unlike, you know, you can get every now and then an albino fox, uh, bears, you know, it's just one of those rare now that, but in the reptile community, you can produce that stuff.
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So, I mean, it opens the door like lecistic alligators, all that shit. I mean, it's just, it's insane. See, what gets me is if I'm correct, Then in the reptile community, it can be like down to like half albino too. like Have some treats with albino mixed with something else.
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Oh, yeah. du all There's gatorland in Florida. They have what they call the pied gator. It's black with white. It's pretty it's pretty pretty different and unique and kind of cool to see.
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That right there. I was actually just going to say, talk about a ra rarity. Like leucistic and albino mixed together kind of. Yep, except but it's got that, and then they've got what the, the it's called, a it's actually a pie gator, which is two different colors. So it's got like the grayish of an actual alligator, and then it's got the leucistic white that mixes out through the dominance. like It's almost like it lost pig pigment, the color pigment in its skin and stuff. so
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That sounds beautiful. Xenpheus with the breeding genetic deficiencies stuff on purpose, especially in the animal kingdom, it is a lot of people take pride in it, but a majority of them that aren't there just for the genetics and to learn the science behind it, it's a money grab.
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There's people out there that they do this shit on purpose, and that's why you get, I see i see it personally, some of them are just doing it for money, not just because they want to do it.
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yeah and but That's something there that um if I'm correct, then some deficiencies have to do with just the the skin color genes, while the other ones go even farther than that down, don't they?
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Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, there's there's just different things and stuff. I mean, i mean it's cool to see all you know these different animals instead of just having... like i've got I've got three plain Jane snakes.
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Plus, I got ah what they call a clown mahogany. It's got different genetics in it. But i got I've got three normal snakes, ball pythons. that They're just your normal wild colors, the brown and black. so But people just learn to take it to the next step and everything and give us more more colorful animals to enjoy. i mean And now and now you got now you got people constantly adding...
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adding on top of those jeans that making some very, very beautiful animals in the process while doing it. So I just looked up that clown mahogany morph that you were just talking about. That is beautiful.
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Yeah. I have a male that's that. So i like the variations of it too. Like different patterns of those colors. I like all cross-eyed white.
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Okay. sous But yeah, I mean, that when you get into the get into the morph game, I mean, it's there's there's so much behind
Hybrid Vipers: Gabino Creation
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it. I mean, i know we we kind of danced around it last Thursday a little bit. But yeah, I mean, it goes in depth.
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It really went crazy with the ball python thing more than it did anything else. so Yeah, ah for sure.
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But yeah, but yeah that's that's one of those. It digs deep in everything else. I mean, it goes clear back to they've actually been finding some of them over in Africa, the albinos, where they found the genes and stuff over there. so Oh, yeah. oh well nu's Well, since we're talking about that, that natural happens, the rhino ah rhino viper and the gabean viper gaboon viper,
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they they They form but what they call gabino, which is it naturally happens out in the wild. That's actual natural um where it combines those two together. And they turn out to be beautiful animals. But yeah, the ball python thing, it's most of it is is lots and lots of trial and error with different snakes and everything else is what it is. Yes.
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yes
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me but Like you were just talking about with the Gabino, right, Wally? um One of the things I've noticed is we're, instead of being like a pinpointed breeding project, and like you said, what the Mother Nature actually doing it herself, um I like the the variation on how that turned out.
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Yeah, that's cool as hell, man. I mean, and they're from the same genus. The... ah the the there the Perian side that they're in scientific side, they're part of the same thing and they are in the same habitats out in the wild and stuff. So it does happen. I mean, Oh yeah.
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Oh yeah. and I just can't get over it. Instead of like what we were just talking about, where it's a breeding projects, like targeting certain genes, this does it in the wild. And I gotta say, it looks like it's got a very well balanced result.
00:19:32
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Oh yeah. It does. It's one of the very few. But like I said, there's more and more now over over in Europe, Thailand and China and all them. They're finding more stuff actually going through and actually doing what we're doing in captivity, which is kind of cool in a way. Mother Nature's giving us more stuff.
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Right.
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But yeah now we're on to the snake thing. That new movie, if you've been seeing that new movie, where's Zootopia that they've been talking about?
Venomous Snakes in Popular Culture
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It's a new cartoon.
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Well, over in Thailand and China right now, they're having issues with people buying that blue Ancelara snake, which is a venomous snake. Because one of the main characters in the movie, that that movie is ah the snake that is like that.
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So there have been a lot of irresponsible people going by in these and they've had a lot of bites and everything from it. I was just reading about it today. hey Irresponsibility.
00:20:42
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Here's the thing, Wally, brother, that I think I've come to learn is that there are some types of snake venom that they can't make an antivenom out of. They have it for that. It's just one of those deals that it's,
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Just goes to show people that are selling these animals over there, it's back to the, we're making that money. We don't care if they got experience or not, you know, stuff like, yeah what do you when you play with venomous, man, you, I don't care if it's even a copperhead.
00:21:10
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You got to have some type of at least a little bit experience dealing with understanding that the handling of it, you just don't go out and buy them and say, here you go. I'm, I'm done.
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Oh, dude, for real. and It's one of those things where i I think we were talking about that a couple nights ago as well is no matter how much experience you've had with venomous snakes, oh there is still that day where it could be your last day.
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Well, like I told you, a couple of the big major YouTubers that I follow that's big into the keeping venomous. One damn near lost his life. He's lost his two of them's lost their fingers and the other one lost his life because he built up that allergic reaction to the venom dust on the cages and stuff from cleaning it and everything. So, I mean, it can happen to the best of them. I mean, all it takes is that one, one split second and it's game over.
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And a lot of people don't understand that. Well, to people that let's say, study a lot of these handlers and watched how they operate themselves.
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You see like some of these people that are really like in tune with every second of every movement right there, hypnotized on the fucking snake. Well, even when you're like that, you can still have a day where you mess up. Yep. and And it's happened. I mean, one of the guys, he was over in Indonesia, caught a Indonesian, uh, Cobra.
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Oh, it's one of this thing. And it happened. He just a split second. Kind of turned his head away from It's on his video. He filmed the whole thing. And it came around instead of him doing what he normally does with the ones he has in his facility.
00:22:56
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It came around just as he was letting go. it got his egg it got him. And he lost his finger over the ordeal. um I'm sorry that he lost his finger, but he's lucky that's all he lost.
00:23:08
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Right. Well, and then what's even fun, what's even weirder is this guy normally doesn't use a snake hook when he's handling this shit. And he actually had it.
00:23:21
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Oh my goodness. Damn, Zempheus.
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Oops.
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Yeah, they're, they're thick. They're thick there where you're at. They're thick in North Carolina, South Carolina. um they're one of the more more common your common venomous snakes. so and and johnny And Johnny's had a bad experience with it because of his dog when he lived down there. so i mean and ah And it does. and It's one of those deals, though.
00:23:53
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Like we've talked, it affects people differently. Some people, it's like a bee sting. If you're allergic to bees, it's going to fuck you up more than it is somebody getting bit for the first time by one.
00:24:08
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So that right there. i When I dealt with removing them off my property, don't get me wrong, I did try the more humane way at first. um Generally, my experience with that was they they seem a little less temperamental than, you know, something else.
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But they still, like like we just said, they still have their moments. And of course, it's a fucking wild one. So um I removed a couple of them with, you know, makeshift hook and hands. But right.
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It was not a good idea at all.
Safety in Handling Venomous Snakes
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I took a gun to the rest of the property. Yeah. i mean that's it I mean, that's it is what it is. i get it it. There's ways to do it.
00:24:49
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But at the same time, like we've talked before, we are taking over what was theirs. Yeah. um You know, I mean, that's and that's, the i hate to put it that way. I mean, it's it's nature moving in where' where they're getting ran and out of their areas. Yes, we're going to have that problem.
00:25:08
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But at the same time, oh, yeah, people, yeah, Zepheus, that's, it people, there's, there's people that literally, I've seen YouTube videos of their five-year-old kids grabbing these things, walking around by the, holding them up by their tail.
00:25:24
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I had Kevlar gloves, right? And i there was a couple instances where grabbing one of them, it bit the Kevlar. Luckily, it didn't bite me.
00:25:35
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And you can see the but the shit drip off the Kevlar. the Yep, you're right, Zempia. Sometimes you do, sometimes you don't, man. But yeah, it's just one of those deals. it's Venomous snakes are mother's nature of rodent control, and yes they need respect.
00:25:59
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you went around You went the route of respecting, but at the same time, You had enough because of what happened. I understand. nothing Nothing against that. But what's your opinion on these stupid ass rattlesnake roundups where they purposely go, dude, that but yet people praise that shit, and especially down in Texas where these things are huge.
00:26:22
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I don't agree with it. Now, I heard some controversy on it. Do they leave like the fangs and the snake? Yes. Okay. ah that of a don recover They fucking dump them in...
00:26:40
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Exactly. Exactly. The best rat traps ever invented. Oh, yeah. For sure. Yeah, but no, these people are literally going out in dens.
00:26:51
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they're They're hundreds of miles away from this place, from people up in the... you know the hillsides, everything else. yeah And they're going out just catching them, little ones, whatever, doing this shit, making money off of them.
00:27:07
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You know, I mean, just it's it's insane. there's There's times they'll even have them where their mouths are sewed shut. You'll see them where they sew their mouths shut, dude. Yeah.
00:27:20
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I don't understand yet, can dogfight. but yet we can dogf fight They make a big deal about dogfights.
00:27:30
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They scream inhumanity. I don't agree with dogfighting either. But yet you don't want to do something about that keeps your rodents and stuff out of your house, everything else. But yet you you applaud because they kill so they do that shit.
00:27:47
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So it's like, wow. ah And I've noticed that, let's say people with a more of a knowledgeable soft spot for reptiles, know how to notice that appreciation where, let's say, something, we have that tenderness towards it because it looks cute, right?
00:28:04
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I've seen people that learn their reptiles and all of a sudden they gain that affection and fondness for reptiles because it it all of sudden they realize it's how, you know, lookable, if that's the word I'm trying to use.
00:28:16
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it's educat you it's It's back to that. You've got to be educated. yeah Actually, you can, Xanthius, you cannot actually milk a snake dry. Unless you cut out their venom glands.
00:28:28
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That's the only way a snake will be dry or remove them. You can never milk them dry. they're consistently It's consistent no matter what. That's been proven.
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but yeah they ah But yeah, it's just one
Reptile Trade and Conservation Issues
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of those deals. It comes back to it's mainly greed and uneducatedness of everything. I mean, I've got a guy.
00:28:53
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he goes down to West Virginia. He's got a place in West Virginia. He goes down and relocates rattlesnakes. Oh.
00:29:03
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Yeah, I still won't forget that, Xanthius.
00:29:08
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Like they say, dance with the dance with the serpent. I've watched so many of those stupid-ass pastures get bit and die because of their stupidity over that shit. well
00:29:22
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yeah Here's the thing. And just to get controversial about that real quick, even those people that believe what they believe in, I'm religious myself, but even i know the common sense that nature has its own free will.
00:29:36
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Oh, yeah. It has its own free will. I'm just going to use that. And rattlesnakes is mother's nature, the only thing that comes with a warning label on it, too. Yeah. With that rattle.
00:29:48
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So, I mean. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
00:29:55
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I mean, you can't go wrong with that. and And two, it's just one of those deals. A lot of snakes has learned to mimic that, if especially if they're in leafs leaf litter and everything else.
00:30:07
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They've learned to take their tails to make it sound like, you know, the rattlesnake and stuff. They've learned their own defense mechanism. A snake would rather run from you than chase you or bite you.
00:30:22
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That's the thing. Well, hey, brother, I don't think I ever told you this. ah i I had a run-in with a baby rattler. Yeah, they would rather run from you. I was flipping through a rock. yes it I believe it was the Batwing rattler because the markings on its back.
00:30:46
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And, of course, the Telltale just flicked its tail right up and started darting at me. Just looked at me. So you ran in you got you ran into a cane break, which has got like the bat wing, where it's combined between the eastern diamond and stuff.
00:31:02
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Yes, sir. ah I didn't stick around long enough for something to happen.
00:31:09
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Yeah, that's true. i forgot about those Zempheus cottonmouths, yes, especially when you're in the water.
Snake Behavior Misconceptions
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Most of the time they will leave you alone. But yeah, when you're in the water, in the ponds and shit with them, I've seen it.
00:31:22
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and they will They will follow you. Yes. But copperheads, rattlesnakes, shit like that, they'd rather they'd just rather leave you alone. the The only time they'll strike is if you keep fucking with them.
00:31:35
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Majority of the time, though, everything everything goes away. um Yeah, I watch a lot of the channels where they actually go out in the fields and the hurt they it's her herping.
00:31:46
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They go and look for them. They really... They really don't chase you or nothing else. They just want to be left alone. Yes.
00:32:01
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But yeah, i mean that's I mean, that's the cool thing about venomous snakes, though. There's so many out there. the cow The knowledge behind their venom, what it can do.
00:32:14
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ah yeah.
00:32:18
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They actually say a cottonmouth zempheus will make it to the point their bite will make it so bad that you'd rather kill yourself than try to get an anti-venom for it because how bad it is.
00:32:31
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Because of the headaches and everything else you get from one.
00:32:37
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but yeah But yeah, I mean, there's so many so many amazing... reptiles that way venomous wise snakes hell even the lizards you got your beat mexican beaded lizards and then of course you got your gila monsters which are out in arizona texas and stuff i mean it's cool to see that shit oh it is like i know like i told everybody before i like my venomous but i'm not experienced enough and everything and not age-wise
00:33:08
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to be messing with that stuff. So I'll, I'll admire it from afar, but now constrictor snakes and shit like that. I'm, I'm dumb enough to take the chance to get a bit, get bit by one of them and mess with them and stuff. So I don't blame it.
00:33:24
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Hey, Hey, like we were talking about some of these, uh, of these YouTubers that are really deeply into that. Um, they've spent years cultivating that passion for it and it really took off.
00:33:36
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Mm-hmm.
00:33:39
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ohy I can respect the hell out of that, man. There's a lot of knowledge that comes with that and let's say how to handle yourself and how to handle wildlife.
00:33:48
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Chandler's Wildlife is a prime example down there in Florida. I mean, the man's got all 10 of the top deadliest snakes in the world in his collection just to educate people about them.
Educational Resources on Reptiles
00:33:58
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I mean, he acts like... Yeah.
00:34:01
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yeah You'd probably recognize him if you looked him up. But he's got... he ah la He had the world famous King Cobra at the one time that he had. so the Yeah, I do remember this guy. The thing is, brother, he was generally, let's say, on on the younger scale, right? He's dealing with things like King Cobras and shit.
00:34:30
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i thought Oh my goodness, dude. Yeah, he's like just turned 30. Holy shit. bull yeah That's it's a lot of knowledge for what people would generally assume not long on this earth.
00:34:44
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Actually, yes, that is the truth on that one. Zempheus, they was, it was showing cure for that. And they said, nope, no more. Cause Arizona state university was the ones that was actually doing the research on that.
00:34:59
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hu Yup. Yeah. Of course, big parma is going to have their hands in it. they if They, If we take money away from them, what the hell else?
00:35:10
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That's just like they were working on a cure. Some of the venom from certain snakes was za would kill cancer
Medical Research on Venom
00:35:16
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cells. And then they put a stop to that shit. Right. I mean... It's because the pharmaceutical companies would be losing their ass because there's cures out there that they're scared of because they can't govern it and they can't make the money off of it.
00:35:33
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Right. It... And you know, that right there, I know that a lot of people will publicly say, yeah, no, you know, it's not what it is. We have to find the cure yet. Really then, how come the cures that we've found already from things like this haven't gone any any farther? They should have just fucking right off.
00:35:53
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Yep.
00:35:56
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Yeah. Oh, no kidding. Hey, he was part of this, Johnny. This is cool. didn't even know that. That's when it originally started. I didn't know that. Thanks for sharing that, man.
00:36:07
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Nice. But yeah, I mean, that's the thing. Just like what t with THC and shit, of what it's supposed to do. And now they're regulating it. and yeah it's because it's just But yeah, there's so many anti-venoms out there that actually could work.
00:36:26
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for certain major medical stuff that, like Zempia said, and we've been talking, that he brought up. They just don't want to deal with it because they lose their ass on it. it How do I say this? And it's quite blunt, but it costs more money, or you earn more money treating somebody than you do to cure them.
00:36:47
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Yep. That's what it's called greed.
00:36:54
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That's like... yeah
00:36:58
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That's like the laws that are going into effect that I just got from USR because I'm a member of that. south carolina There's a couple of states that are, I think it was South Carolina or North Carolina. I can't remember which one now, but they're wanting to ban all reptiles, lizards, everything.
00:37:18
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But under the law, the way they worded it, human human trafficking is is an exception.
Controversial Legal Proposals on Reptile Keeping
00:37:25
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It's literally worded that way. In the article that they sent out that they got a copy of from the U.S. s ARC that's fighting this to where for people who keep their reptiles.
00:37:35
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Yeah, it literally says, a when I find a copy of it, I'll text it to you. You'll jaw drop. I couldn't believe that. But human trafficking is okay. I'm like, what? what See, when you say the U.S. ARC, you mean ARC?
00:37:56
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Oh, a different ARC. Mm-hmm.
00:38:00
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Got you.
00:38:03
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United Reptile Keepers Association. Got you.
00:38:11
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good Yep. Yeah, thens it's a big it's a big... It helps us keepers be able to keep our animals because of irresponsible people people and uneducated government.
00:38:22
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ah Yeah. So... Yep. they're yeah but yeah But yeah, when I read the wording on that that law that they're passed trying to pass, I was like, you got to be shitting me.
00:38:34
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They literally said it's okay for human trafficking. What the fuck? Big red flags. that Crimson. is critic crimson yeah oh yeah i mean and that's the and that's the thing is Governor embodies one little mistake or something somebody doesn't understand as much as I hate talking politics, but this deals with this side of the conversation. They just stick they stick their nose in and they don't want to hear reason from actual reputable breeders, reputable good keepers, all that stuff.
00:39:14
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They just want to make it to where nobody has anything. So...
00:39:19
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see And that type of regulation, if you want to call it, it can lead to as much as they you know we do this for people's protection, it can lead to a whole worse outcome than just people's protection even in the cars to begin with.
00:39:36
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I mean, hell, the black market's already as big as it is. it It'll get even bigger. You know? Yeah. I mean, it's bad enough over overseas. I mean...
00:39:49
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I see in the videos, a guy that lives over in Thailand. They have what they call the but the reptile market. Well, it's the black market, but it's for animals. And they ship them over here to people that buy them. They give them the people, and they're not and they're protected animals that these people motherfuckers are catching.
00:40:11
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Yeah. It sounds like it could have some problems to it. Well, and I mean, that's how a lot of these, like I said in the past, that's how a lot of these reptiles were introduced back in the early 70s.
00:40:26
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Oh, yeah. And you know what? Well, it's starting to happen again.
00:40:31
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big Because they're puttin they're putting a stop of this shit of letting it actually be bred in captivity so people are taking them and doing it on the black market, making their money and people are getting what they want because it's available to them there because they can't get it ah on a regulated side like you can over here.
00:40:55
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Yes.
00:40:58
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and They could decimate a fucking ecosystem. That's for sure. Oh, yeah. Well, I mean, ah it does that. I mean, it it happens. Yeah. Oh yeah. ah oh yeah but Besides humans desecamating an ecosystem, my personal opinion, a fucking cat's the worst animal that's ever been kept as a pet.
00:41:21
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But yet they still don't put laws on them. No. Oh no. Because it appeals more to family. Right. Once again, uneducated people making rules.
00:41:36
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Bingo. Bingo.
00:41:47
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But yeah, I mean, that's what it is. That's basically what it all old boyss boils down to. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
00:41:57
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And then it comes back to where the younger generation, because of older generation, well, I don't like this because I just don't like it. So you're going to be taught not to like it. and When you see it, you kill it. Yeah.
00:42:13
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like Let's say that. At that point, education of such a subject flies out the window. Right. Well, I mean, you remember being a little kid. I mean, go to the zoo, you see the reptiles, everything else, the tigers, all excited.
00:42:28
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And then you get a little older. You would get just for, I'm just showing an example. You get around somebody doesn't like this stuff. They're going to try to persuade you. Well, you don't like need to like this because I don't like it. So going to teach you the hate.
00:42:43
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on it just like how it is in humans. So that everything's taught. The subject of, like you just said, if I don't like it, why should it even be appreciated?
00:42:54
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right You don't have to like something to appreciate it, but just because you don't like it you're going to throw the appreciation out the window too. And then teach teach people not to like it because you don't like it.
00:43:05
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and then And then you get more people that start forming these groups where it does that shit and it's like, Man, come on now. ye
00:43:15
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So it's one of those deals. It's just ridiculous. well People are people are better or at least they should be.
00:43:27
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Yeah.
00:43:30
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Oh, yeah. So you got anything else you want to talk about before we jump off here and stuff and jump over on your channel for a little while? Hey, i covered I covered some stuff, brother. I'm good.
00:43:44
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All righty. Thank you guys all for tuning in. Thank you, everybody, in the chat and stuff tonight. Thank you for watching another edition of Cold-Blooded Conversation. Tomorrow night is movie night with Michael and friends. Saturday is nonsensical nonsense, where we open the panel up for everybody to do.
00:44:05
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Have a good time. Hang out. Sunday's Unnecessary Roughness with Glick and Rick. And then we're back here Monday night with Speedway Stories. I got a guest. Brock Talbert's going to be on here and everything, talking some rough truck racing in his first rookie season of Modified.
00:44:22
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And then Tuesday is Glick's House of Music. Wednesday is Brittany and Michael Ha-Ha-Ha. humpday Hump Day Hump Ha Ha's on Wednesday.
00:44:33
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And then we're back here again for a Cold Blood Conversation on Thursday night. Thank you guys for tuning in and everything else. You guys have a good evening. I'll talk to you later. See you, Johnny. See you, brother. I'll see on the next one. Yes,
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sir.